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September 14, 2025 55 mins

This week's guest is Malaysian comedian Kavin Jay. Last time Kavin was on this podcast, he was a much heavier man. After going through an incredible transformation, he lost 45 kilograms in one year, with no medical intervention and no Ozempic. On this episode, Kavin shares his weight loss journey and his reasons behind not using Ozempic.

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(00:01):
So I reiterate here, the bill isdead.
The story of this great city is about the years before this
night. Hey everybody, it's a new

(00:23):
episode of Hong Kong. I'm sitting here with someone,
but I will get to him in a second.
This is a new episode, the new week.
We have something really coming,like exciting that coming up
very soon. So this Sunday, September 21st,
we have basically our biggest theatre production so far for

(00:44):
Ben Quinlan. He is going to be at the Box at
the Free Space W Kowloon. And we are, I don't actually
know by the time you get this ifwe have tickets or not, but
tickets are running out. So I will leave the tickets link
in the show description. And it's going to be super cool.
So we're going to shoot it as a special.
There will be a camera crew and all that jazz.

(01:06):
And then on the 23rd of September, that's a Tuesday, we
have another theatre show for Maitreyi Karan.
Both obviously Ben and Maitreyi,our previous guests at the
Tucson Theatre at the West, sorry, at the APA in the Art
Centre in Wanchai. And that is also selling out.
So camera crew, the whole thing,we just need people to come.

(01:28):
And you know, maybe you'll end up on the special.
It will be, it will be super exciting.
I mean, for me as as just as a producer, I'm opening on both
shows as well. It just like it feels like it's
the right time to to take big jumps like this and get Hong
Kong comedy scene on the map. Other than that, something
really cool happened. So my buddy Ishan Iref, who is a

(01:51):
previous guest as well, the quizmaster, he does quizzes all over
town and he he had a quiz at crushed recently crushed a wine
bar in Sympon. Shout out to our friend Kat.
She runs it and he said that he went to the quiz and someone
whose name is Cordelia, if you are listening, apparently
you're, you know, a fan of the podcast shout out.

(02:13):
She came to him and she said, Hey, I heard you on Hong Kong
podcast and then you said you dothe quizzes sometimes at crush.
So I decided to come here and say hi and and take part in the
quiz. So thank you, Cordelia, and
that's super cool to hear because sometimes you were doing
this and Spotify is not that great as give at giving all the
metrics of who is listening. Obviously you guys write in

(02:35):
sometimes and stuff like this, but we don't really have a good
grip on, you know, the the listenership, let's say through
Spotify. So it's so cool to to see people
coming out, especially through the podcast.
So yeah, thank you, Cordelia, and thanks to everyone who
listens and tunes in every week from around the world.

(02:56):
Now Speaking of around the world, we have a previous guest
as well coming back on the podcast last time we recorded,
which was I think two years ago,Kevin.
Two years ago, I think it was two years ago, yeah.
Yeah, so Kevin J, comedian from Malaysia back on the podcast,
but last time was quite funny. If you are a an avid listener,
you might remember that we were recording at your hotel room.

(03:18):
Yes, and we got a noise complaint because they thought
we were fighting. It's 3 brown guys in a hotel
room and I get a call and the front desk is like are you OK?
I'm like what? I'm I'm fine.
Why are you fighting? I'm like, I'm not fighting.
This is just how Brian Brown guys talk, man.
And we were not even that loud, it's just that the room was like

(03:41):
paper thin walls I guess. Yeah, it's a, it's a Hong Kong
hotel room. I mean, I mean, among all the
craziness that you would see in a Hong Kong hotel room, this is
not that bad. Yeah.
And The thing is, we tried to continue the podcast, yeah, but
they didn't allow us. No, yeah, they.
Called. They called back and they were
like, yeah, you're still making noise.
I think we, yeah, we left the recording on as well.

(04:01):
I think on the episode you can hear like Vivek picking up the
phone and the guy talking. He's like, hey guys, you're
loud, but that also means probably a guest complained.
Probably, yeah, next door, Probably you could hear them
next door. Like, yeah, it was what?
They were loud as well. Exactly what the hell.
But when we had the comedy club,the riff and and like, you know,
like Huaifang here. So on Lang Huaifang we had a

(04:23):
comedy club in a high like rise.It was on the 8th floor, but
across from it was like an hourly hotel.
Right. And most of the time people
don't understand because I thinkthey have, our building has
reflective glass, right? So they don't think we can see
them. Right, so they leave the what
the windows open? Yes, Yeah.

(04:44):
It's not the window. The curtains.
Yeah, the curtains. Yes.
And the amount of stuff we've seen.
Oh my God. Can you just imagine when you're
doing a set like you're doing a stand up set and all you see is
just two people going? Yeah, luckily it was from the
bar because the the comedy room was like a black box.
It was from the bar. But a lot of the times I'm on

(05:04):
stage thinking I want to be outside, I'm like, whatever I'm
saying, it's not as exciting as whatever outside.
Thanks for coming back, man. Welcome back to Hong Kong.
No, it's a pleasure to be here, man.
Yeah, I always like coming to Hong Kong.
Hong Kong is a great place. Yeah, well, comparison to
Malaysia, yeah, sure. It's the same like I would say

(05:25):
fucking with you. But.
Yeah, be fair. Like, yeah, like coming to Hong
Kong is like, it's no difference.
Yeah, right. The only difference is stairs.
Yeah, Yeah, That's the only difference that I have.
But other than that, it's the same thing.
Like the weather is the same. Weather is equally gross.
Yes, yes, especially now. There's as many people as Kuala
Lumpur. Yeah, right.
It depends where, like here I think you can get out a little

(05:48):
bit of the city and then it feels like quite open, yes, like
on the beaches and stuff. But so it's quite important you
can get out of the city as well.It's less, yeah, it's less
people. There's beaches and there's
everything. Yeah, yeah.
But when we were recording at your hotel room, I don't know
what's the right way to say this, but you were bigger.
Oh. Yes, Oh yes, that's that's all.

(06:10):
I don't know what's I think bigger objectively correct word.
Yes, I would say I was half the men.
Are you? I will.
I am half the man I used to be Iguess.
Is that why your wife tells you you're half the man I married?
No, I mean, it's, it's weird because like in 2023 I fell into

(06:34):
depression, right? Because it was just like when
you look at yourself and you think to yourself like, Oh no,
this is not the person I am, right, Right.
This is like, I used to be a skinny kid, all right?
And then I, I, I went through college, I, I was OK.
But then what happened was I broke my knee.
And when you break your knee, you you kind of have to take

(06:55):
steroids and you have to kind of, you know, do certain things
like you, your mobility is gone.Like I used to be a sprinter.
I used to play football, I used to play rugby and.
So you're like, actually a sporty kid?
Oh, yeah, yeah. And then, you know, that all
came crashing because I couldn'trun as fast anymore.
I couldn't do this. I couldn't do that.
So, you know, everything came. He was just eating.

(07:17):
And yeah, I grew and I grew and I grew.
And I think my heaviest I was at120 kilograms.
Right. Yeah, and you're not a tall guy,
so 20 is is a lot. Oh.
Dude, it's, it's huge. Like I, I was, I was editing a
video this afternoon and I was just looking at myself.
I, I, I, I don't recognize that guy.

(07:38):
Like who is this guy? And on your Netflix special,
you're quite big as well. Yeah, that was that was my
heaviest. That was your heaviest.
So there is like a permanent record.
Yes, that is well I would last all of civilization.
You know what's funny? Like that was my heaviest, and
then I lost weight after that. Yeah.
And I just put it back on. Yeah, yeah.
Oh yeah. Shit.
So you actually lost. You were smaller than you are

(07:58):
right now. Yeah, no, no, I this is the
smallest I've been in a long time.
Yeah. So, yeah.
So right now I'm about 75 kilos.Yeah, which is, which is insane,
honestly, because I've known yousince you were like, even before
all of that. Like I've known you for years
and years and you're always justlike a big guy.
Yeah. So like, it's funny.

(08:19):
You like when you have friends who are big, you just don't see
them as anything else. You're like, oh, that's just a
big guy. Yeah, right.
I mean, the, the the problem is people don't recognize me
anymore. Yeah, like every time.
Like I used to walk down the street, people.
Hey, yes, you come in, Jay. Now it's just like, wait, are
you? Then they walk away.
I'm like what? Right.

(08:41):
So yeah, walk me through the journey.
So you fell into depression justbased on like your body image?
I feel like you're not happy with yourself.
I wasn't happy. I was, I was not well, I, when I
say I'm not well, it's not like I had diabetes or anything.
Like I, I still go doing, you know, medical checkups and stuff
like that. Everything was OK.
Like I didn't have a problem with that.

(09:02):
My problem was like, you know, just if I got up, my knees would
hurt. Oh, my God.
Like, I, you know, you know how when you get up, you don't get
up anymore. You just announce it to the
world? Yeah, yeah, Yeah.
And when you sit down, you just kind of let gravity do its
thing. Yeah.
So yeah, that was me. And walking upstairs, like, you
know, even one floor, I would just die at the end.

(09:25):
Yeah. Like, I cannot do it.
Like, I remember you've been to crack house comedy and it's on
the 1st floor. Yes, I would dread.
Yeah, those stairs, right? Yeah, I would just look at it
and go like my nemesis. Yeah.
And it would take me a good likefew minutes to get up the
stairs. And it's very short stairs.
Right. Yeah.
So yeah, it was, it was a struggle for me, right?

(09:46):
And, and then what happened was in 2023, I joined the radio
station, right? I joined a radio station.
Oh, it's a It's a perfect job for someone who's been yes.
Yes, although having said that, because I had to do, you know,
promo shots and stuff, so they had to promote the new lineup.
Yes, yeah. Right.
And so they said. And it was you and like 4 guys
hidden behind you. Yes, you're just taking 50%.

(10:07):
Pretty much pretty. You just nailed it.
Yeah. And you know what's the worst
part? Like the worst part was they
were like, yeah, don't worry about wardrobe, We'll have
something for you, Right. And I'm like, yeah, I'm going to
bring my own clothes. Right.
Yeah. So I did bring my own clothes.
Yeah. But they they, so they had like,
OK, so you are an XL. I'm like Nope.
No. No, I'm a double XL.
Yeah, yeah, right. And they were like, OK, we'll

(10:29):
see what you get. These are big sizes, US sizes,
right, Right. US size YS right because.
Even US size for you was like nobueno.
Yeah, I I doubt that it was. Right, right.
They're not. This is for my ego.
Yeah. Asian size.
I'm about 4XL, right? Right.
I was 4XL, right? You were thinking.

(10:49):
I have your own production line.Yes, everything.
Yeah, even sometimes it's 5XL, depends on the area of age
you're in then like US size and two XL.
Yeah. So that was, that was.
I'm sure in some parts of the USyou are a medium.
Yeah, I'm a small in the southern.
Yeah, but I so I, I. Right, so you did the radio, the

(11:13):
promo? Yeah.
And I couldn't, I couldn't fit on any of the clothes.
And it was like, no, when you look at it, you're like, oh,
yeah, I can fit this. And then you go to the changing
room, you come up with a sports bra.
Yeah. And you're like, yeah.
And they're like, yeah, this is not the imagery one, right?
So then I had to wear my own clothes.
Yeah, which is fine. But then the pictures came out
and I could see how much bigger,right?

(11:34):
I was the rest of them, Yeah. And I was just looking at the
pictures and I'm thinking about,Oh no, this is not.
You can't be in denial anymore. I can't.
This is. Yeah.
Because you see, I've always hadpictures of me alone, so you
know it was. Of course your brain plays
tricks on you. It wants to protect you.
Yeah. Of course.
And I always thought like, it's fine, right?
And I was like, no, I can't do this.

(11:54):
Like, yeah, this is not something.
I put it on my social media. I'm like, you know, I don't know
what to do. I don't know where to start.
Like, you know, even when you the journey of losing weight or
getting fit or even just being healthy, it's difficult to start
because you don't know where to go.
You don't want to do. Yeah, join the gym and then do
what? Yeah, exactly what?

(12:15):
Run in a treadmill and then there's other equipment there.
And you look at, you know, it's very intimidating.
Like you, you look at other people doing, they know what
they're doing, right? Sometimes you look at machine
and you're like, how does this work?
Right. So it's, it's, it's so hard.
So I put, I put it on Instagram on my stories.
And the amount of responses I got was quite overwhelmingly

(12:38):
honest. You know, everybody was like,
yeah. And then a few people kind of
approached me and say, hey, we will do it.
We I can do a personal training for free, blah, blah, blah and
all that. So I'm like, so then I was about
to do it for free. And then I thought to myself,
like, OK, this is not sustainable, right?
Because yes, it's good marketingfor them that, you know, someone

(13:02):
who's well known and can lose that much weight, they will get
more business, of course. But then I thought to myself,
like, what? What is my, you know, what am I
getting out of this right, you know?
Your end goal is to lose weight,right?
The end goal is to lose weight, but then the motivation to lose
weight as well, like if I'm doing it for free and is if I'm
doing it as a favor to someone, it's kind of like on my terms

(13:25):
and that's not what I want. Like I knew that that was going
to be a problem. So I, there was this other guy
who didn't offer me like a free session or anything.
He's like, dude, if you want help, I can help you.
But these are my charges, right,Right.
And they were very expensive, right?
It's a good thing I was working on radio then because I had a
lot of money. And I thought, OK, you know

(13:45):
what? I I'm going to have to pay for
this and I'm going. To.
Yeah, because you want the commitment as well.
You want the investment. Yes, you want the investment,
that's it. Yeah.
And as an Asian, yeah, investment very.
Yeah. Right, because you like you.
You do comedy shows, Yes, when you give free ticket, of course
they don't appreciate. It no, they don't appreciate it
they. Don't appreciate?
It sometimes they don't even come.
Yeah, yeah. Even if they come, you get drunk

(14:06):
or they Heckle and you're like, you do it, it's a free ticket.
What are you doing? Yeah, right.
Yeah, it's actually people. To your point, people like don't
think, don't understand that a free ticket has the opposite
effect on on the show. Exactly.
You're like, Oh yeah, look at all these people I brought.
He's like, yeah, but they're shit audience exactly because
they're not invested in the show.

(14:27):
It's exactly that. Yeah, exactly.
And so, you know, so I thought, you know what, this is an
investment of myself, so I paid a ton of money, right?
Just put it this way, I put it alot of money, right?
And you know, I bought the session for a year and I
thought, you know what this is? So you're just like his bitch
now? Yeah, See what he like and what?
What did he say? Like, what was his program like?

(14:49):
What did he say? From the beginning.
Builder, right? Yeah.
So he's jacked, right? He's he's quite big.
And the first thing I told him was, I don't want to look like
you, right? And he's like your wish.
Yeah, yeah. He's like, yeah, sure.
Yeah, sure. He's like, look, this took me
years of dedication. Yeah.

(15:10):
Which you will never do. Right.
Right, So I, I was like, OK, so the how yeah, how was this bitch
for for a while, but I, I like the fact that this guy is also
because I have a lot of injuries.
Like I said, I broke my knee, I dislocated both my shoulders.
I have. You know the other knee is a
problem now, right? So it's like the song head,

(15:32):
shoulders, knees and toes, everything got problem.
I hope it's like your intro songnow.
Yeah, you should use it as an intro song.
And then yeah, but he, he, so he's a physio as well.
So his words to me was if I break you, I can fix you.
So nice, nice so. So he made me, he started.
Me. So wait, yeah, walk me through

(15:52):
like, because I watched The Biggest Loser, for example.
Did he have any like temptations?
It's like all the time. Yeah, dude, the temptation, I
still have it now, like, and Thething is The biggest loser, like
that was what we grew up with, right, In a way.
And I thought that was going to be it.
I thought, yes, he was very entertaining.
But I realize now that that how unsustainable.

(16:16):
Yeah, all of them got went. Back to yeah, 90% of them gained
all the weight and it was so unsustainable that, you know, I
thought that was what I was going to do right, right.
But he was like, no, that's not what you're going to do you're
going to lose half a kilo a weekthat's all you're going to do
you're not going to go more thanthat less than that is fine as
well, right. So that's, that's, and that's

(16:37):
what we stuck to like, you know,the first thing we started with
is OK, you know, start with movements, start with, you know,
kind of just getting the movements done, you know, no
waits. Just stand up, sit down, stand
up, sit down. I felt like I was in church.
Right or. Something like it was, you know,
you know how like when you watchKarate Kid, you know, wax on,
wax on. Yeah, yeah.
He was like, what am I doing? I'm waxing your car.

(16:59):
He's like, no, what you're doingis you're learning things.
So it's the same thing, right? You know, he taught me those
things. And then once I got the movement
done, then waits came in. And then after Waits and then.
Then what? How often are you seeing him?
Three times a week, OK. Three times a week and from like
how simultaneously to that, how is your relationship with food

(17:20):
because that has to change as well.
Yes, but is it coming from him or is it coming from you?
Like how are you handling that relationship?
That relationship is a two way road right now.
So it all started with movementsfirst right and then when I saw
that my weight started dropping I'm like, Oh yeah, this working.
I still can eat whatever I want.And you know, but then the most

(17:40):
difficult part about weight lossis the plateaus, right?
Because I was 120, right? And then I started losing,
losing, losing. And then about 1:15 plateau,
right? So it is just two weeks.
So there is mental work as well,like not getting frustrated, not
being like fuck this, I'm getting a burger or whatever.

(18:02):
Dude, I the the reason why I paid for a year in advance is
because of that. Like I, I was so grateful that I
did that because the moment thattwo weeks plateau came in and
I'm like, you know, fuck this shit.
I'm I'm what am I doing? I'm doing this for two weeks and
nothing is happening right, right.
And, and the thing he's obviously, he's obviously he's

(18:22):
trying to tell me that, you know, you should, this is
normal. But you can't.
You can't, Yeah. Yeah, you can't.
You don't accept it. Like you're also like, you're
impatient, right? Everybody's like, yeah, yeah.
Keep going. Sorry, my to the listeners.
My dog is losing her mind. Yara, please.
Hey. Hey.
She. Wants to go out.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. She's terrible.

(18:44):
She's like I I have a terrific body.
Yeah. Very lean, actually.
People always people. Always, Yeah.
I've never seen a fat Hong Kong dog.
No, no, you not see one? Yeah.
So yeah, where was I? So yeah, so the black dog.
Yeah, the plateau, yes. So it was so hard.
Like the only reason I kept going back was because I've
already paid for it and that it was just me bring frugal going.

(19:08):
No, like I'm going back. Yeah.
So I kept going. And then then it came like,
yeah. What was the next breakthrough?
The next breakthrough was, OK, so now that you hit the plateau
doing workouts, right, being more active, now you've got to
reduce your food and that's whenyou go hard, right?
Because then he gives me like, OK, so this is what you need to

(19:29):
eat every day, so. He's giving you like calorie
intake or actual like meal plan?No, look, he gave me a choice.
He said, Look, I can do everything for you.
As in the fact that you I can give you like what you need to
eat every day or eat whatever you want.
Yeah, but just be aware of what you're eating, right.
Right. So obviously I chose the second

(19:50):
one, right. It's.
Not that one, yeah. Boiled chicken is not a good
thing yes, although it can be quite tasty now, right yeah.
So I I picked on the other one. So gradually my calorie intake
reduced from like 2500 to like 2200 to 2 thousand, 1800 to 1600

(20:13):
so. It was, it was, it was just a it
was just like, you know, gradually reducing, but over the
time, right. So because you work out plateau.
Yeah, right now food goes down. Yeah.
You you drop again and then you plateaus again, right.
And then you. But how are you dealing with
like what was your favorite like, like guilty like

(20:36):
McDonald's or like late night snacks or anything like this?
Like what was what was the crave?
Like what was something that wasdoing you in like maybe
chocolate sugar. Oh yeah, very anything with
sugar. So yeah, you have a sweet tooth.
Yeah. Dessert.
I never was a sweet tooth. There's this.
The worst part. I know I never used to like, you
know, have like a sweet. I hated chocolate.
Right? Right.

(20:56):
And now I love it. Yeah, I hate it.
You know, desserts like, like custard or pudding, I'd never
like those, right. But somehow when I was, you
know, cutting calories, everything was like, I just need
a chocolate in my mouth, Right? Right.
Yeah. And I realized one thing also,
like, you know, trying to be aware of the calories, sugar is

(21:17):
not a big problem, right? It's not like like a spoonful of
sugar has the same calories as like a bowl of rice, right?
No, not even a bowl of rice. Like it's, it's quite low
actually, right? Sugar is not the main source of
calories. The main source of calories is
oil, right? Right.
It's fat. So like fried stuff and yeah.

(21:37):
Yeah, so if like and don't get me wrong, I'm not saying oil is
bad for you Yeah, you need oil, you need fat in your life,
right, right. If you if you cut out fat
completely, your food is going to taste really bland and also.
Your energy level. Your energy level, yeah, just
you just lose the will to live. What exactly?

(21:57):
Right. So I, you know, sugar was not
the big, the big issue here. Like I realized, like when I
eat, I got to look at OK, so if like it's just making choices,
right? It's just like, OK, so I can eat
this much chicken or I can eat this much bacon, right, right.

(22:20):
Obviously bacon is more tasty, right, right than dried chicken
breast. But it's just that I can have
like a good meal, like I'll be full with a whole chicken breast
rather than two strips of bacon,right, right, right.
Which is the same calories by the way.
So, you know, in that sense I'm like, OK, so I know I'm going to
choose that because. You also get to go to heaven if

(22:43):
you give up the bacon. So that's, yeah, yeah, that's
not part of the plan. No, I I have to give up so much
bacon. Right.
Yeah, to. Kind of, you know, go back to
every right now it's it's not looking good.
Remove your tattoo is the whole thing.
It's a big plan. There's too many.
Things I hang out with the result more yeah, yeah.
He's not going there as well. So yeah.

(23:06):
No, but yeah. But you see, I mean you, you
start making better choices because of your hunger.
Did you have support system at the time aside from your
trainer? Were people like?
How are people in your life like?
I mean, my wife, my wife, my wife was OK My daughter was a
bit difficult, right? Because like, you know, because

(23:27):
at the end of the day, like, youknow, at home, I have to.
I do the cooking. Yeah.
And you know, so I'm the house husband, right?
Right. So I have to prepare meals for
everyone. And it's weird that I have to
prepare one for myself, Right? Right.
But I do. They're eating normal food and
you're eating like the boring. Food, Yes, yeah, yes, so.
And that still stands until now.Yeah.

(23:48):
I mean, now it's more like, you know, I cook for everyone and
it's healthy. But then most of the time, what
sometimes, like, you know, my daughter just gets a McDonald's
inside. Sure, sure, sure.
So it's like, yeah. But it was hard for me because
like when I make something and Itry to make it healthier, it's

(24:08):
less tasty. Right, Right, right.
It's always, it's always going to be less, of course.
Yeah, because you use less ingredients.
Yeah, that's why, yeah, that's why a lot of people are fat.
Because, yeah, because it's not as delicious.
It's yeah. And so I, so I, you know, at one
point I just thought to myself, like, it's great.
I I don't care. Like, you know, I don't care

(24:28):
what the food is as long as it'sI eat less.
That's it that I'm just aware ofwhat I'm eating.
So like, like, let's say, because lunch I can, I can eat
really light because I'm, I'm eating alone.
But dinner, I can have a big meal with my family, Right?
Right. Which is you don't have to give
up a lot of things. Did you have, did you add like

(24:50):
like small habits like for example, going for a walk after
a meal and stuff like this? Oh, yeah, yeah, that that.
I mean, it started out, you know, with 5000 steps a day and
then 6007 thousand. Now it's 10,000, right?
At least minimum, right? So yeah, 10,000.
Which is hard in KL as well because it's not really a
walking. City it is not, which is not
which is why I had to buy a likea treadmill, right?

(25:11):
Because if not, it's impossible,right?
Or I can just walk around the housing area, but it's it's
still it's boring yeah. You know, when you're walking on
your own, like, what I do, like,what I try to do is actually I
like walking alone now. Like, I like just putting on,
like, in the course of me listening to one podcast, right.

(25:34):
I know I have gone enough distance.
Yeah, of course. Right.
Yeah. So like.
But then my wife wants to join me and.
Oh, my God, I have to talk to this woman now.
Yeah. Right.
So. Yeah.
And it becomes a bit boring because she can't keep up pace
with me sometimes. And yeah.
OK, so you're starting at 1:20 and you're seeing these plateaus

(25:54):
and then where is the first likebig, like actual breakthrough
when you're like, Oh my God, like I am actually like not as
fat anymore. I think it was at 99, right?
Right. When you break the 100, you
break a double. Digit it's, it's a mental thing,
mental barrier, right? And let me tell you one thing,
the plateau from 100 to 99 was the longest one really.

(26:14):
Yeah, it was just one kilogram. You cannot shut off it.
Could not. In fact, it was 101 hundred 100
and one 100. And two, right?
Right and then goes down to 100 again, like it it was so
difficult because in that I think it was three or four
months of just plateau, right. Yeah.
And everything we try everythingI I even skip meals.
I even didn't eat the whole day right, You know, and The thing

(26:37):
is my, my weight still keep going up and I could not
understand it right, because I I, I, I why, what am I doing?
I didn't do anything wrong. Why am I gaining this 1K right?
But it's just to understand thatthere is no way I could have
gained a kilo of fat, right? Yeah, there is zero chance,

(26:58):
right? Because I have to eat 13,000
calories, right? Which to be fair, I had five
guys earlier. Yeah, that's 1000 calories,
right? Right.
I have to. Have thirteen of those double
cheeseburgers, 13, five guys. You have to have 50 plus you
have to have 75 guys, yes. So yeah, it's, it's impossible

(27:25):
for me to gain that weight. It's just, it's just your body
reacting to things. And sometimes you know it, it
produces more water. Sometimes it just like.
Would you have any secret supplements as well that my?
My my personal trainer gave me like a, a bunch of pills.
Yeah, right. And I'll be honest with you,
he's not going to listen to his right.

(27:47):
But I at first I took right because I thought to myself
like, OK, look, I don't believe in this right?
And but I'm going to take it anyway because think about this,
right? If you didn't take it and you
don't lose weight. Yeah, then you feel.
Kind of your fault. Of course, you didn't even try.
Yeah. If you took it, you lose weight.
Yeah, you know it's not that, but whatever, right?

(28:07):
One of the one of the supplements he gave me was.
Turmeric. Oh yeah, that's, that's big in
the, in the health community. Turmeric.
I'm Indian. Yeah, you're eating that anyway.
Yes, it's not like I have a turmeric deficiency.
Right, right. It's it's literally in all of
your food. Exactly.
Yeah, it did not make sense. Like, OK, magnesium, I

(28:29):
understand. Then there was, you know, cod
liver oil. And I'll be honest with you, I I
did not see the point of any of it.
Right. Right, because your metrics,
your other metrics when you're doing blood work and stuff is
normal. It's normal.
Yeah. So you don't feel like you
actually need. Yeah.
Yeah, I mean, in his explanationwas that, look, these nutrients

(28:52):
will help, right, Because you are eating less and because
you're eating less, your body gets less nutrients.
Therefore you will need this. And especially when you're
growing muscle as well, you're growing other things.
So, you know, you, you need all this supplements to kind of, you
know, bring it back to health. But a lot of it is, I'm not
going to say it's bogus, right, But it's like multivitamins.

(29:15):
Yes, yes, right. It's it's, it's long been, you
know, proven that you really don't.
Unless you malnutrition. Yeah, you really don't.
Need because you're getting a lot of these nutrients from your
food anyway. Exactly.
Yeah, from like any normal food.Exactly.
Yeah. You don't need white vitamin A.
You got you got carrots, right? It's fine, right?

(29:37):
You got you Turmerics everywhere.
Yeah, Eat a Curry. Yeah, and it's more delicious
than a fucking pill. Exactly.
Yeah, Cod liver oil. It's just, I mean, it's great.
I mean, look at the end of the day, if it works for you, it
works for you, right? If it doesn't.
I mean, yeah, but like seeing, seeing your before and after,

(29:58):
obviously that is like when I saw you the other night and I'm
like, you do Ozempic. I think you did it.
You did the whole thing before Ozempic.
Dude, yeah, I did. I started before Ozempic.
Yeah, I could have, yeah. And I'll be honest with you.
Yeah, I have contemplated Ozempic.
Yeah, especially. Apparently it's magical.
That's what I I mean, obviously.I know people who've been on it.
Yeah, I know people who've been on it.

(30:19):
And I. And it works pretty quick dude.
So it just suppresses your appetite.
Yes, right. Yeah.
And I know, I know people who'vebeen through it, like, you know,
they take Ozempic and what happens is they don't do
anything. Like it's not like they're going
working out or anything. Right, right.
They're eating normal. They're not eating normal, Yeah.
Because they don't have appetite.
Yes. But I'm saying like they're not

(30:40):
changing their diet. Of course not.
Yeah, they're still going to five Guys.
You're having a little burger instead of a big one, Right,
Right, right. So it's just like you get full
faster and your, the the digestion process is kind of
slower, so you kind of go to toilet less.
So it's a whole system process, which I, I looked into and I,

(31:02):
I'll be honest with you, I have contemplated it.
Yeah. The only problem is the only
problem was the only reason I didn't do it right, because I
quit radio. I didn't have the money.
And you had already put in the money for the.
Yeah, yeah. Yeah.
So you couldn't be like, yo, canI get like 6 months back and

(31:24):
then you put it back into Ozempic?
I wish I could. I wish I could.
But the problem was, yeah. But the problem with Ozempic is
that if you don't work out with Ozempic.
You're going to put. Muscle as well yeah right.
You lose everything like you lose a lot of like you lose
muscle, you lose organ tissue aswell.

(31:45):
Oh damn. OK no, because you need food to
grow of. Course.
Right to grow cells. And The thing is, your body is
not making new cells. So therefore it's it's not.
And I'm again, I am no scientistand I'm not saying this because
I'm saying like, oh, don't take Ozempic.
Do a, you know, if you're obese and you need Ozempic, go ahead.
Like, you know, people go to thelengths of, you know, gas

(32:10):
gastric operations. Yeah.
Yeah, of course, you know, show up the stomach and stuff like
that and look, it's as as bad asit as it sounds like.
Can you imagine your stomach being like the size of a Yeah?
Yeah. Yeah, yeah.
So. Crazy.
It's it is crazy, but I've seen it help people and of course,
yeah, at the end of the day, if you need it, go ahead.
Like, you know, that's that's that's your deal.

(32:31):
But just do it the right way. Like you don't don't just take
and do nothing. Of course you will.
Like I like I have a friend who was on Ozempic.
Still is, I think. I'm not sure, but yeah, the face
sunk, right? You can see the the eyes.
Yeah, like just sunk in. Right, Right.
Right. Because it's it's just you're
losing fat, you're losing muscle.

(32:53):
And he has no definition at all.He's just skinny now, right?
Yeah. Which is not healthy in a way,
but yeah. But I guess if he feels better
about himself. Yeah, I guess, yeah.
You know, but then going back toyou like, so was there a point
because you're now at, you lost 45 kilograms in total, right?
Which is obviously very impressive.
But that also puts you from fromlike a fat guy to like there

(33:16):
must have been somewhere in the middle where you felt like, oh,
I can stop here. But it seems like he kept going
to like a fit guy. It's like you're not fat anymore
but you decided to keep going tobe fit, not just like a normal
average size guy. So which?
To me that is actually the most impressive because you could
have just stopped. I'll be honest with you, this
100% my PT yeah my personal trainer helped me out with this

(33:39):
because. And was it because you still had
some money left on? You.
No, no. I mean, you know, I'm not with
him anymore. Oh, yeah, yeah.
Because I had to quit. Like he was getting way too
expensive. Right, Right, right.
And also now I kind of know. You kind of get.
It I, I kind of get it, I kind of understand.
And I also understand like, OK, so if I do this is this, if I do
this and the weights training issomething that he said like

(34:02):
look, if you, if you don't buildmuscle, it's not sustainable,
right? Right.
Because if you, if you're not, you muscles need energy to burn
to, to maintain, right? So if you, if you have muscles,
the likelihood of you getting fat is less, right, Right,
right. So your muscles and The thing is
the maintenance of the muscles includes workouts and stuff.

(34:24):
So like sometimes I do travel a lot.
I do travel like now I'm in HongKong like, and it's hard to get
to a gym in Hong Kong, right? There's plenty.
Don't get me wrong, it's very expensive.
Yeah, it's expensive, yeah. So I'm like, you know what, I'm
just going to walk 10,000 miles,10,000 miles 10,000.
But I mean, if you just walk around central, like because
there's a lot of elevation as well, you're also getting

(34:46):
workout, yes, you're just going uphill.
Down cardio, right? Yeah, it's cardio.
Yeah, it's proper. Cardio, yeah.
Yeah, so you don't, you know, you don't.
The worst part is like we live in a time where body image is
very different from when I was young.
Like, I don't know if you had this, but like you do you

(35:06):
remember the movie Fight Club? Yeah, of course.
Yeah, so one of my favorite movies.
Brad Pitt, right, His body. Yeah, at that time, yeah, was
the A grade. Yeah, it was, yeah.
It was like, oh, that's the bodyI want.
That's that's that sexy. That's.
Oh yeah. Now it's a little bit different.
Yeah. Now it's Dwayne Johnson.
Yeah, that was the wrong because.

(35:27):
He was like, he was basically skinny with muscles.
He was lean, yeah. Yeah.
And like, now you look at guys with muscles, you're like, hold
on a minute. Yeah, like this is not.
No, Natural. Also, you look goofy.
Yeah, like I think a lot of these guys like I it sounds very
stupid of me. I like, I wouldn't want to look
like Dwayne Johnson. It just like it's just, it's too

(35:51):
much. It is, it is, but no, but that's
the that's the norm now, right, Right.
When people look at me, they call me skinny, right, right.
That's that's the thing. And and.
I you would rather be cold skinny than fat.
I guess, yeah. But also, I, I mean, you know,
I'd like some attention. So what you're saying is that
now you're just like a blind, like whatever.

(36:13):
I'm just vanilla. Yeah, yeah, I'm just, oh, he's
he's all right. He's a, he's a guy, yes.
Yeah, and I'm not like, you know, like, I'll be honest with
you. I I I expected a lot more
attention. Right.
So I think the attention you getit from people who know you or
knew you from before, right? I get a lot of attention from
men. Yes, yes.

(36:34):
Yes, from men. It's just weird, like, you know,
because if I take off my shirt, right, I, I do have some muscle
definition, but I don't have enough yet.
Like I, I, I'm still, the journey is still going on,
right? I'm maybe I'm not even at the
end like I it's there's a long way to go.
But you want to be like a proper, like jacked guy.

(36:55):
No, Well, yes, I want to be athletic, right, right.
I want to be AI, want to look atthe mirror and I go like nice,
nice. I'd do that.
Right. And that is, is that for like
just for health, Obviously like everything is for health
reasons, but is it for more liketo, to, to live a healthier
lifestyle? Or is it because you know that

(37:18):
you can slide back if you don't maintain?
It's a bit of that. The vanity, Yeah, it's vanity
and a bit of sliding back. Right, Right, Right.
It's not about health. I, I, I'll be honest with you,
the health thing is, is there, it's in the backseat, right?
But it's never been a goal. Like it's never been like, oh, I

(37:40):
want to be healthy. Right, right.
I want to listen. I want to be healthy.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because everyone wants to be
healthy. It's like, it's like, of course.
Yeah, but I want to be sexy, youknow what I mean?
Like I want women to look at me.And go like, damn, is that comic
on stage? I would smash, yeah.
I want my wife to look at me andgo like, oh, you know, I've got
to, I've got to work with to keep this man now.

(38:02):
Right, right, right. Yes.
But yeah, that's one that's vanity, right?
That's that's me. And I mean, we do this for
vanity. We do comedy for vanity.
Yeah, right. That's.
Yeah, no one needs to do comedy.No.
And no one needs to go watch it either if everyone has a normal
life. Exactly.
No one needs to do this shit. Exactly.
Yeah. So for me.
To be happy with your kids at the playground.

(38:23):
Vanity is at the top of the. Period.
No 100%. At the second rung is just
basically, yeah, I just I, I, I want to feel good about myself
and. How what would you tell people
who are, you know, just struggling with weight?
And I'm sure you've been asked that before, like having lost
45. You have basically, I'm not 45,

(38:43):
I'm like 60, whatever, but you basically kind of lost me, which
is a little bit Yeah, yes, if. You shave if you shave.
If I shave, yes, you basically lose me.
Yeah. Like, yeah.
What? What would you tell people who
have had this similar journey with no success or like little
success? Because that's 45 kilograms.
Is it's gonna sound really cornyI.

(39:04):
Mean no, but whatever you say, it's your as the kids say, it's
your lived experience, yes, and you're totally entitled to do
your lived experience, yes. Yes, but it's going to sound
very cliche, which is don't giveup like it's it's and it's the
hardest thing to do. Yeah, because giving up is so
easy. Yeah, just trust the process.
It's all. Yeah.

(39:25):
It's. All yeah, you sound.
It's all buzzwords, isn't it? Like trust the process, right?
Give up blah blah blah, but at the end of the day, just this is
something that I've learned a long time ago.
This is this helped me in school, right?
So I I do it in my stand up as well, but I have ADHD and
dyslexia, right? Which is very hard for me to
understand things. So one of one teacher pulled me

(39:48):
aside and said hey don't understand how understand why
right. Which I I did not get at that
time. Right, because you don't
understand. You're like.
Hey, what are you talking about?What is this buzzword?
Right, right, right. And but later on in life, I
realized it was such a there's so much depth to this, right?

(40:09):
Because like, for instance, if you, if you understand how to do
a math problem, you will understand how to do that math
problem, right? Right.
Yeah. If you understand why you did
what you did. Right, the logic the.
Logic behind it like, OK, so This is why you know if you, if
4 / 4 is one, right? You know, 4 / 4 is 1, You

(40:32):
remember, you remember this likeyou remember when in school used
to remember the timestable. Yeah, yeah, 1 * 1 is 112 is 2.
And you did that, right? You remembered it.
You remembered how, right? But you never understood why you
you never understood why 4 * 2 is 8.
No, I understood why. If I don't get it, I would be

(40:54):
smacked on. That respect, yeah, but you
remember OK, 4 * 2 is 8, but youdon't understand why.
You don't understand like 4 twice.
If you count it all together, it's 8, right?
So you understood the the concept of multiplicity, right?
So in that sense, like if you understand why you eat the food

(41:17):
you eat and you, you, you do thethings you do, eventually you
will, it becomes second nature, right?
So like, I understood why I do certain exercises, right?
I understood why I have to do cardio and why I have to do
weights, right? I understood why I have to eat

(41:39):
less of this, but more of this, not just how like, OK, eat.
If someone comes and tells you, hey, eat more vegetables, right,
Right. You would be like, I don't like
vegetables. Yeah, exactly.
Great. But if you understand why you
need to eat those vegetables, you eventually go like, yeah,
that makes sense. Yeah.
Right. Because like, for instance, at
lunch, right, you, you're havinga good meal like a steak and and

(42:03):
vegetables, right? Obviously the steak is the
better part of this. Sure, right.
But The thing is, the more steakyou have, the higher the
calories are, right? The more vegetables you have,
Yes, But the calories increase so much less.
Yes. So but you eat when you eat the
vegetables, what happens is you get full.
Therefore you can't eat that much steak anyway.

(42:23):
Yes. So you you understand why?
You understand why you're eating.
So like, like it's just changingthe habits.
Like for instance, if I eat a meal now, I eat the vegetables
first, right. Right.
Why? Because I feel because you know.
Yeah. So I know that at the end of the
day, if I'm. But that's really smart.
Like, you know, that's obviouslyagain, it's your actual
experience, yes, but that's not something I even expect like or

(42:44):
thought of. I mean, maybe because I'm like a
generally skinnier person. You, you.
You what? Yeah, yeah.
But in general, like if I am like, if I'm trying to watch my
weight, like that's something that I think everyone can
benefit from, is like, eat the vegetable first.
Yeah, because you just get full faster.
Exactly. And, and, and, and then you eat
the, the, the higher calorie stuff, the meats and I mean, of

(43:05):
course you need to, you know, keep up with the protein and
stuff like that. But at the end of the day, the,
you, you're eating the healthy stuff first, so that, that fills
you up and then you're eating your favorite loss.
Yeah. So you, you end on a high,
right? Yes, yes.
So, yeah, that's what that's what that's what I did.
Yeah. You know, I, I told this to my
trainer and he was like, that's a really good idea.

(43:27):
Yeah. Right.
So he starts teaching it to everyone else.
Right now. He owes me money.
Yeah, exactly. I was going to say he should pay
you some. I know some royalties.
No, but he does. He does do one or two physio for
free. Oh, nice.
OK. But you know, at the end of the
day, I think it's it's understanding why was the big
thing for me, right? It was understanding why I did

(43:49):
this, why things happened and understanding your relationship
with certain things like food, right.
Like I used to have a really badrelationship with food.
Food was something that was I want.
Now it's it's not that I don't want, I still want it, but it's
more like I want, but I can do without, right?

(44:11):
You know what I mean? Like.
So it became just a way to like,like, fuel you.
Yeah. As opposed to just, like, you're
kind of living for. Yeah.
Like the next big meal. Exactly.
Or like. Yeah, Like for instance for
cravings, for instance, 3 years ago if I came to Hong Kong and I
wanted five guys, which I did today, I did, I wanted five
guys, right. I wanted, I already planned this
and I said I know what I'm goingto have Five guys, right?

(44:32):
I love Five Guys and I love FiveGuys Hong Kong because it's
actually the cheapest thing I could get right.
That is true. Everywhere else is so expensive,
right? But in Hong Kong, because the
price standardization, yeah, it's actually much cheaper.
Yeah. So I knew I wanted five guys.
I knew I wanted to do it. So what happened was I knew that
OK, if I'm going to have five guys, if I had it at 5:00 PM, so

(44:55):
I can carry forward my lunch to 5:00 PM, right?
So, and because it's five and I'll be full, I don't have to
have dinner. Sure right.
So that's my calories done, right?
So I could have whatever I wanted.
Ah. Smart.
I had a burger, I had a milkshake and I had fries.
Damn. OK, yeah.
So was that a part of you? Like, like remembering where you

(45:16):
were, like when you were much bigger.
Like I can, I can do a few more.No, when I was much bigger, I
would have that and then later on after the show, I'd have, I'd
have something with the boys, right And a.
Drink you quit alcohol as well. Yeah, a few, yeah, I quit
alcohol as well. Yeah, alcohol was was one of
those things like OK, because. You were a big drinker, I
remember. Yes, I'm not not a big drinker.

(45:38):
I mean, you drink. Yeah, Yeah.
But alcohol for me was one of those things where, look, if you
want to count calories, you're going to have to kind of have to
simplify a lot of things, right?Right.
So for me now, anything I drink is 0 calories, right?
Right. So if I have like a tea, it's no

(46:01):
sugar, 0 calories, right? If I, if I want to have a
coffee, it's an Americano, no sugar, 0 calories, right?
Right. If I want to have a soda, it's
Coke 0, Sprite 0, whatever it is, 0 calories, right?
Or water. So the the problem with with
with alcohol is that you can't. Such high calorie.
Yeah, and you can't have one. No.

(46:22):
Yeah, exactly. What's the point then?
Just quit it all together. And also peer pressure is there,
right? It's so hard because you when
you're trying to explain to someone like, I only can have
one. Why?
Right. Yeah.
And you're like, you know, at the end of the day, you're just
going to give it. And you're like, you know what?
I'll have another one. Yeah, just so you can shut the
fuck up, Yeah. And a lot of people say, oh, you
know, drink vodka. Yeah, because that's very low

(46:43):
calories. It is.
Yeah, if you drink it on its own.
Yeah, if you yeah, because you have to mix it with something,
drink vodka. Water is horrible.
Yeah, and, and and I don't know if you know this, but the only
thing that masks the taste of alcohol is sugar.
Right. Yeah.
I mean that makes sense. I didn't know that, but that
makes. Sense yeah, the the the reason

(47:05):
why people have. Yeah, I mean, it smells
horrible, like when you just smell someone's like vodka shot
or whatever, tequila. That's why people mix you with
Coke, because it's sugar, right?Right.
The only thing that that that masks the taste of alcohol.
So if you do it with like let's say if you have vodka Coke 0, it
still tastes like shit. Right, right, right.
Yeah. And.
In fact, it, it actually is actually bad in a way.

(47:26):
It makes you drunker faster, right?
But that's that's beside the point, right?
What happened was so, yeah, I had to give up alcohol because,
you know, it's one of those things where it was, it was
getting difficult to track, right.
And you, you want to, you want to.
OK, so how many beers did I have?
I can't remember. Right.
You know, or, or it comes to a point where I can have two beers

(47:51):
or dinner. Right.
Yeah, right. Because, you know, otherwise
you're just undoing everything good you did.
Right Then what's the fuck? What's the?
Point yeah. It was like, you know, you you
already have like a a credit limit of calories and you're
there, but you have to choose between beers and dinner, right,
Right. And you're like, and you're
hungry. Yeah, of course you are hungry,
right. And you, you think to yourself,

(48:12):
oh, if I have a salad, maybe I can have a beer.
Yeah. No, I mean, at the end they just
have a meal. Yeah.
And go out and just try to explain to your friends that you
don't drink. Was was the drinking, the
quitting drinking cold Turkey that you just went like nothing
anymore? Yeah, pretty much it was.
It was for you. It wasn't a big deal for me, to
be honest. Like the drinking part.

(48:35):
The hardest thing about stoppingdrinking was trying to explain
to people that I stopped drinking.
Right, right. Because yeah, especially with
stand up like it's, it's just part of the deal, right?
Yeah, and I don't know you know this, but in Malaysia, Indians
have the stereotype of being Alcoholics, Right, Right.
Yes, I mean for good reason, because, you know, a lot of them
are. But what happened was like, so

(48:58):
every time I do a show or something, people would come up
and say, Hey, can I buy you a drink?
And I'm like, no, I don't drink.And they go like.
But you're Indian. Oh, shit.
Yeah, I see, I see. So they're just.
Going. And of course I'm like, yeah, I
know that, yeah. But you know, there are Indians
who don't like, no, you have to,right.
And I'm like, no, this is not how it works.
I don't. And this argument goes on and

(49:19):
fine, buy me a drink. Yeah, exactly.
And then they buy me a drink andI'm standing there holding this
drink. And why aren't you drinking?
I told you I don't drink. Yeah.
You just want to waste money. OK, fine.
Yeah. So yeah, that was the hardest
part about drinking. Yeah, stopping drinking.
Yeah, damn. So yeah, now you're like, aside
from vaping, you have no other vices.

(49:40):
Yeah, I'm trying to quit that aswell, yeah.
OK. I mean, it's, it's such a like,
I mean, obviously quitting like it makes sense.
Just quitting smoking. It's not good for you.
It's just period. Yeah.
Yeah, I mean, I I went from smoking to vaping and then I did
quit vaping for a bit and then Istarted again.
It's vaping for me is a nervous stick.
Yeah, that's what smoking is. It's it's a it's an oral

(50:01):
fixation. Yes, yeah, I know for sure.
And no, not only the oral fixation, it's more like the the
nicotine kind of helps with anxiety, I think.
Yeah. And it's hard.
Like I remember I quit. I quit, right?
I went to 0 nicotine and then I did that for a couple of months
and then I could. And then I forgot my vape when I

(50:24):
was traveling to Japan and my wife was like, so do you want to
buy a new one? I'm like, you know what, let's
hold off on it. Let's see how long it can last
without. And I went through two weeks
without having a vape, came backand I thought, yeah, I'm done.
And then I had a show in Singapore and I was so nervous
that, you know, the guy vaping next to me, I'm like, can I have
some? And then you know, that's how
it's of. Course, yeah, yeah, I mean in

(50:46):
general, if that's your only vice is, you know in comparison
to three years ago when you're drinking on the border of like
yeah, basically being a fucking Patrice O'Neal kind of story
yeah yeah we're just like yeah just like not as big but like,
you know overweight guy drinkinga lot working at night It just
like all this of course after the show like you're craving

(51:07):
some bullshit food yeah it's just a bad cycle and you have
because. It's adrenaline, isn't it?
Like, like when you do stand up comedy at the end after the
show, Yeah, you. It's so hard to turn off.
Yeah. You super hard.
You're full of adrenaline. Yeah.
You're bouncing off the walls. Yeah.
You know, you still, you're still trying to be funny.
And it sucks also, Like people leave and then you're like, OK,

(51:29):
So what am I supposed to like? What is much energy?
And The thing is sometimes, likeI, like I realized my
relationship with food changed so much in the sense that food
used to be comfort, right? Food used to be like, I'm
lonely. What do I do?
Eat. I'm bored.
What do I do? Eat.
Yeah, right. So that was that was going on
and on and on. And now it's more like, oh, I'm

(51:51):
lonely, it's OK Do something else, you know, Or if I'm bored,
sleep you. Know yeah yeah, yeah amazing.
Finally, what do you have comingup aside from the shows in Hong
Kong? Yeah, by the time.
It happened already. Yeah.
Yeah, exactly. We are in the future now.
Yeah, in the future. I guess I'm still traveling to

(52:12):
do shows. I think my next one is in Sri
Lanka. That would be November.
I'm still planning a few other places as well, like Mongolia,
places I've never been. It's, let's face it, I'm doing
comedy just to be a tourist. Right, right.
Yeah. I mean, it's a really good way
to see the world instead of justgoing and be like, oh, OK.

(52:34):
No, I wish, I wish. I don't know why, but I wish
like I can, I can tour like you know, some of the bigger comics
and stuff. I always want to do it and I
have ambitious to do it. I think that personally, I think
that I do well in shows I know Ican entertain.
It's just that I don't have the followers because I can't

(52:55):
understand social media. Right, right.
Yeah. But apart from that, I know if I
keep doing this I will get theresomeday hopefully, but I'm
already 45 and I'm happy where Iam so.
Great. Well, I mean, I, I'm a big fan
obviously just having you havingyou on here a couple of times
and anytime I I see you, I'm happy to to support.

(53:16):
So thank you so much for coming on.
Hey. You know what I, as I said, I I
really want to do backstage KL, backstage Hong Kong.
Yeah, sure. Yeah, Yeah.
Well, yeah, I mean, you, you can, you can be backstage KL, I
will franchise it here. I don't care.
But no, yeah, we'll talk about this as well.
Thank you so much for coming on.And how do people find you
online? Finally, Kavin JKAVINJAY on all

(53:38):
my social medias. Great.
I will I will leave your Instagram handle on the on the
show notes. Kevin, thank you so much.
We're going to quickly jump on the Patreon.
You can join us on the patreonpatreon.com/Opod where I
will talk to Kevin about something we cannot discuss on
the on the free episode. I will tell you right now what
it will be. It's exactly what he said that
the last thing it's Hong Kong comedy politics.

(53:59):
So jump on, jump on if you won the scoop of him wanting to do
backstage. And yeah, I'll just, you know, I
will answer his question to why or why not.
So join us there. But in general, you, it's a good
way to support the the podcast. As you know, everything we have
on here, equipment, mics, all ofthat is bought with Patreon

(54:20):
money. So thank you for all the
support, $5 a month. And then, yeah, actually come
out to Ben. And my trade show comedy season
is ending end of the month with me headlining.
But we'll talk about this another time.
Thanks everybody. And we'll see you next week.

(55:04):
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