#237 - The Comedians Are Dumb, The Event Is Bright, and The Audience Is Dark

We have a classic Ho Ho Hong Kong episode this week, with both hosts doing what they do best—tangents and show stories. Mohammed Magdi tells the full story of producing Ben Quinlan's Theatre Special at The Box Theatre, and Vivek Mahbubani injects his signature commentary on the story.

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Episode Transcript

(00:01):
So I reiterate here, the bill isdead.
The story of this great city is about the years before this
night. Hey everybody, it's a new

(00:23):
episode, new week and a new oh, new old hosts.
One of them has been doing it for too long and forgot to spit
his doing come out, but we're going to keep.
Going we're going to play a gameof who's the professional.
We both know who's the professor.
Exactly. We're going to introduce your
congestion today. Let's feel the dude we got the

(00:44):
first guy who is a well known comedian here in Hong Kong, goes
to schools and gets hired for gigs and everything.
I was going to. Say and the other one is Vivek
Mahboobah. Yeah.
And the other one is. Who has a chewing gum now in
front of him? Exactly guy who took spit
chewing gum just now. Yes, the game.
The question to you is who's theprofessional?

(01:04):
Who is the? Professional, Well, the
professional we're, we're takinga little break from the videos
because it's too much work to yeah, basically like all the
yeah. I was like, first of all, it's
OK, this is a bizarre thing. It's too much work.
Not as in like I'm unable to do it, yes, but it's too much work
as in it takes so much extra time to do it.
I agree. It's like it's it's everything
in my life is now five times slower.

(01:25):
Yes, right. So you're like, let's set up the
the the camera. I'm like, wait, the tripod will
take me 10 minutes. Yeah, Cam will take.
We could have finished the wholeepisode.
Yeah, before I set things. Up.
And you were just telling me that you just walked from Siam
Pon? Yeah, like not even Siam Pon.
Like High Street meeting Kane Rd.
Yeah, so as of today, I OK, so Long story short, every single
day I try to get my little self little victories where I

(01:47):
challenge myself to do somethingI couldn't do yesterday or
haven't done yesterday to see oh, did I progress or not?
Yeah, so I forget what the previous ones were the whole,
but you know, like the, the, themilestones like I think last
week was to walk from the bedroom to the other end of the
my, my living room area without using crutches.
Right. You know, so just FYI, yes,

(02:09):
it's, it's your own apartment and everything, but you can see
all of the walls of that apartment at all times.
Yeah, exactly. So I don't think there is
nothing. Yeah.
Yeah, exactly. But at that point, it's kind of
like a like a little young one year old kid potty training like
you. Did.
Yeah, yeah. And like, now you're looking
like, dude, he just didn't shit his pants.
Yeah, You know, it's like basically how I mock or I kind
of look at birthdays nowadays, you know, when you're young,

(02:29):
like, hey, it's birthday right now.
I'm like, you just didn't die another year.
Dude, I, I this is probably cameup before to to we're recording,
I don't like to date these very much, but we're recording, just
for context, on the 29th of September.
Yeah, my in exactly to our 10:00PM We're recording quite late.

(02:50):
Yeah, exactly at midnight. It's my official birthday.
Yeah, Oh yeah. Remember with the weird you have
all the weird dates on your. Right.
Yeah, 30th of September. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
My fake real 1 is the one with the official on paper and not
the real 1. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But. Yeah, that's in two hours big of
birthday and I plan to do absolutely nothing nice.
And actually my real one, which is the 3rd of October, Yeah, I'm

(03:11):
flying to Vietnam and also doingnothing nice.
So I'm not really. So this clearly means either you
don't pay attention to this podcast, yeah, or you literally
don't like to learn anything from anyone.
I'm like, yeah, you got to appreciate these people.
You're like, I can walk and I'm choosing not to.
Yes. Yeah.
Well, it's to your point you're saying about the birthdays,
like, yeah, when people were like, it's my birthdays like you

(03:31):
did not. Yeah, you didn't.
Yeah, you just didn't die. Yeah, that's it.
We're celebrating you not dying.Exactly like I like.
Which I guess is a milestone. In a way, but like that's some
far like dude, I think right nowit's not the chance of you dying
is much lower than you not dying, right?
So we're not really celebrating something that you were most
likely going to achieve anyway. Sure, that's true.
So. That's what I mean.
Like these small things. Now I keep talking.
I'm like, OK, so I aged another year and I'm more experienced at

(03:54):
aging now. Yes.
So why are we celebrating the fact that I age?
Because I can do it much better than I did before.
Yeah. I mean, you can look at it also.
It's like, hey, you're one year closer to the end.
Exactly. Yeah, You know, you have that.
It's like so many different waysto see it and and that's when
you get older and when you kind of see the world in more
different layers and you're like, wait, this is not a good
thing. This is like, oh, it's a
reminder of like, so yeah, this time again.

(04:16):
Yeah. What are you gonna say for?
Your time. What are you gonna say for your
time and so? Like you're like, oh shit, I'm
and I'll tell you this. The weirdest thing, Speaking of
birthdays, is that so everyone who knows me, I write a journal
and everything I've been writingfor around it's I think the 6th
have. You been writing it in bed when
you're broken. Yeah, computer.
Yeah, nice with my laptop and everything.
Yeah. And that was another thing I
remember writing. I was like, man, if all the all

(04:37):
the bones to break if I had to choose like 2.
Yeah, this was the best 1. The ankles were the best choice.
Yeah, yeah. I mean, if you have to choose
bones to break, yeah, I guess. Like toenails like toes.
Yeah, but I mean like. Something around the feet.
It's probably equivalent amounts, yes, yes, yeah.
Around the feet like. Obviously hands on arms.
You don't want to fuck that, no.No, no, no, because then you're
really like ribs. And stuff.
Yeah, you know, like nowhere close to the core, Yes.

(04:59):
And limbs wise, yeah, the ankle is the best choice simply
because it's like immobile. Yeah, but with a limited extent,
yes. And let's be honest with you,
today's world, you're spending most of your time not moving
around. Anyway, yeah, I think the most
valuable bones are now are your finger like fingers.
Well, let me just say, accordingto one person I've known for
nine years, my most valuable bone is my Dick.
Which is not a bone, yeah. Exactly.

(05:21):
That's what I just say it's. A bag of skin.
Based on yours, it's definitely not a bone, but based on mine,
it's a goddamn dude, Yeah. Yeah, well, yeah, I'm glad she's
like. I'm sure she's like.
I'm glad this is still working. Exactly.
Yeah, yeah, thankfully. Right.
No, So, so yeah, that was definitely one of those things.
But yeah, I, I've written. And The funny thing is that
every year I have a few things that happen usually 10 days or a

(05:41):
week before my birthday, but Oh my God, in seven days I'm going
to turn 22. Yeah.
And recently I got I think like the 15 year old one and it was
like, oh, I'm turning 27 and I was like 27.
Who said that to? Me oh in my journal.
Oh shit. I'm like, oh, shot 4215 I was
like 27 and I was like whoa, 27 year old man.

(06:01):
That's crazy. Then dude, 15 years ago I was
still doing websites and stuff like that and I remember doing
some comedy shows. It was like some of some of the
the more prominent ones. I think I was hosting maybe the
the preliminary comedy. Comedy addition?
Yeah. And I was like, God damn, oh, I
did some crowd work, man. They totally clicked them.
Like, oh, I used to do crowd work back then and stuff, you
know? My God, it's so bizarre, it's

(06:22):
wild, it's so wild. I think maybe on Patreon episode
we should get into these journals a bit.
Yeah, yeah, it's big. Yeah, pick some some old.
HP whatever. Yeah, I'll randomly pick one of
those. Yeah.
Patreon.com/hohopod. There you go, where you can
actually hear. Yeah, here I hear Vivek reading
his own journal from from many, many years ago.
I'll try to find that exactly what I mean.

(06:43):
It's one of the recent ones. Anyways, yeah, yeah, but yeah, I
mean, right now we're at the endof the, as we're recording what,
at the end of the whole comedy season.
It's actually to your point as well, like we did this like
right before your break. Yeah, we were talking about the
whole comedy season thing as a like, you know, we're planning
all this like really big thing and whatever, and it's just like
that, it just ends. And you missed that.

(07:04):
Such a perfect, pun intended moment.
What is it? The college season.
Right before you break. Hey, Yeah.
Nice. Anyway.
No, no. Yeah, Yeah, exactly.
Like, the timing was so bizarre.Yeah.
Like, again, I will always remember Saturday night where
baseball doing the show, like, no big deal.
Yeah. We're walking home after that.
Yeah, yeah, Ben are mid levels. Yeah, I remember.

(07:26):
Yeah, exactly. You know, And Ben was like
promoting his show and like he was doing a set and I was like,
I'm going to do this, but me, I'll do that.
But yeah, OK. You know, yeah, I did that.
Go home, Like no big deal. Yeah.
And literally, I keep. The next day, just your word.
Change. Yeah, yeah.
But I'm like, oh. I mean, that's, I mean, that's
the same for any anybody who hasan accident, a real accident.
Yeah, yeah. It's like you don't see it
coming. That's like the definition of.

(07:47):
Yeah, just like, yeah. But it's, it's really weird when
you look back and think back, you're like, even right now
we're talking and like, dude, this could be, you know, that's
just it. And it's a weird comfort.
Like as a reminder, be like, dude, you know, really
appreciate it. Yeah.
And it's a weird like oh shit this could be my last walk.
Yeah, yeah. It could be my last walk.
This could be my last podcast. Yeah, it could be amazing, man.
Yeah, yeah. But let's not, Let's not.

(08:09):
Go too late. This could be more common.
Yeah. OK, let's go back to that.
This is exactly. But yeah, you're saying as
you're saying, Yeah, as you're saying, he was preparing on that
show on like on August 9th. I was saying, yeah, 10th of the
10th was the accident. And his actual show at the Box

(08:31):
Theatre was on September 21st. So it was like a month and a
half before that when you saw him last.
So I would start with this one because that one was like crazy.
Like it's just like I think Joe Wong in terms of bigger the,
the, the size of the venue and how many people came and also
the star power of the, of the headliner is definitely the

(08:52):
biggest I have done in terms of production and all of that.
But Ben seemed a bit like my involvement in it was a lot more
simply because I also had a camera crew there.
And I had a camera crew of like,they're filming for a special.
So there's four cameras and there's a sound guy.
Everybody's miced up. And and this was your idea or
Ben's idea? It was my idea.
Nice. You were like, I'm going to film

(09:12):
this shit out of this. Yeah, yeah, we'll film the hell
out of this. But also like, you know, we'll
get to later a stage of, of, of editing, which we have not like
I have all the raw footage now and it's 800 gig of data.
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. And then yeah, yeah.
And then after that we'll figureout how to do it.
And, you know, we're, we're really trying to right now where
the, the process of pitching it to streamers and stuff.

(09:35):
So we're like, hey, does anyone want this?
Then, then you can decide whether you they, what they can
fund it, like the editing or do you want to edit it and license
it or whatever. If someone is interested.
It's a big, it's a long process,but the show itself was, and
there are listeners who are at the show was was really
interesting because Ben did 100 minutes.

(09:57):
God damn dude. Jesus.
That's crazy. Yeah, it's crazy.
Any. Opening any opening act.
Yeah, there is Kari hosting Chris and me, so that's like.
You open as well? Yeah, Oh my.
God, yeah, yeah, yeah. I was like, yeah, I'm, I, I talk
about this. I was actually explaining it to
a friend who came to my headliner and they were like,
because it was the first time seeing me do stand up.

(10:17):
And they're like, they saw me also, like, you know, doing the
music or whatever. And I made a little joke about
it, but I'm like, you know, whenI used to work for Live Nation,
actually the job that I had obviously on a bigger scale, but
the jobs titles that I have are actually done by 4 full timers.
Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, the the producer is,is a whole is, is a promoter

(10:38):
promotes the show and the showrunner is a showrunner.
Yeah, that's also a full time person.
And then there's a comedian. Yeah, they're doing all four.
Yeah. And on Ben's show, that was not,
couldn't be more clear that I'm doing all these things because
we had clock and flap executing the show, but clock and flap has
no, no like what's the word like?
They did the framework authority.

(10:59):
No, they have no authority to decide anything because it's my
show. Yeah.
So they can't make any, like real decision.
Yeah, that would affect like that I can hold them
responsible. For what was like, like, what
was the first decision you remember where you had to make
like really a snap decision while you were over there?
Oh, someone wanted to pay cash at the door.
Clock and Flap doesn't take cash.

(11:21):
They're like, we're not like that's not a thing we do.
Yeah, yeah. Venue doesn't take cash and the
venue doesn't have a box office for us.
Yeah. So Clock and Flap team is
outside checking people and theyhave all the lists.
They have the. We also put the show on
Eventbrite closer to the show sothat the Eventbrite list, they
had the ticket flap list and then they had the comp list.
Now there is a fourth category cash list, There's a there's a
cash list. And then I'm all the way inside.

(11:43):
Yeah, so I'm the just get me on the walkie talk, so.
This person comes in going like,damn, dude, I need to watch me
some comedy. Yeah.
And they're like, man, I want notrace of this comedy.
I know, what the hell. I want to be like no one knows I
was. Sure.
Yeah. So he came not just with with
cash, but he also came with a suitcase that actually that's a
venue decision because they havelike a luggage storage or
whatever. But he came straight from the

(12:04):
airport. He's Ben's friend.
Yeah. There we go.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Shady shit like that.
Obviously Ben in the financial world is like buddy, buddy,
buddy, buddy. We can't be doing, I can't be
making money off of you because you know, like we work in the
same company that's inside of trading.
And if I'm to be seen over here,what I can do is I could be in
transit in Hong Kong and claim Inever actually went outside the
airport and I watched his show. Literally on the Airport Express

(12:26):
line, the West. He literally probably like like
just quickly I use it with different two different octopus
cards. You can't trace back that shit
yeah, he comes watch the show. He's probably got like a black
colour suitcase so it can be right like that he's.
A white guy, of course. Obviously he's coming over here.
He's like, I'm trying to get taxevasion If I'm in Hong Kong for
less than 18 hours, yeah, I can.I don't have to pay taxes in the
UK for like that one day. And, you know, if I can spend

(12:47):
basically I'm over the tax bracket by 230 Hong Kong
dollars. Yeah.
Can I come and just pay with cash?
You know I want no trace of thisbut.
Of course he did, because the ticket price was 388.
Yeah, yeah, I had once, they said someone pay on cash.
I had anticipated that. He definitely doesn't have 388.
He probably has either 500. Yeah.
Or 400. Yeah.
Yeah. So I just took 120 just in case.

(13:10):
In case. Yeah.
And of course it was 500. Yeah.
So I'm like, now you get an $8 discount too.
Yeah, because he's just paying 3. 8 damn that guy but.
Like those decisions, like, likethe, the, the frequency of them,
yeah, was really highlighted when it comes to what the camera
crew needs to do. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Because they are they. Are which is no.
Director. Yes, exactly what do you miss?

(13:31):
Time. We want to do a close up, far
up. We want to zoom in when you want
to do. That so luckily it was the same
crew that we worked with on the ABC documentary that that you
were part of so they're. Very bad guy was the same my
same guy for when I did my Shen One show as well.
Yeah. Was it Dickie?
No, Dicky. No, no, Dicky is the second
cameraman. No, no, I forget his name,
right? So it's the same.
If it's the same guy, then yes, he does a lot of that.

(13:53):
A lot of that, yeah, Yeah. So that same team and there was
an extra person because four cameras, but like to figure out
the light like I wanted different background lighting
for each act There's now. Four.
Yeah, Yeah, Fair enough. Yeah.
Right. But then sure, I can say that to
the the production guy, but thenhe's like, OK, so which colors?
So I have to, I have to be like decide for each all of them and

(14:16):
then decide like what the light sequence is for the light cues
for the headliner. Did your choice of color for the
background have any influence based on the skin shade of the
performer? Actually it's more which I
learned from Joe. Like that's also the cool thing
is that like you do every every time you do one of these, you're
learning something new. Yeah.
So Joe actually just based on like, hey, what color you want?

(14:38):
And he says, let me check what I'm wearing.
Yeah. And that's what it was.
Yes. Yeah.
Yeah. So next time when I did Ben
show, it was quick. Hey, guys, what are you wearing?
Yeah. And based on that I actually
chose the background. Quality, but obviously you don't
specify saying are you getting asuntan?
Are you going to change your race?
Like, I'm not going to ask you that, but I'm going to judge
with that. Yeah, yeah, of course.
Yeah, yeah. Like this guy?

(15:00):
Like what for example had goldenbecause just white privilege.
Yeah, yeah. Yeah.
No, I had, I had Blues like it just like worked for me.
I also had the blue T-shirt, butlike like darker blue.
OK, OK. Yeah.
So it didn't like completely. That's also one of the things
that you learn over time is like, what if you know it's like
a black box? You don't wear dark shade colors
because you just blend into the background.
Yes, Yeah, yeah, yeah. But like that, the, the, the

(15:22):
lighting on that on that stage is really, really bright.
Yeah. So you still actually you're
still. Pop but like whatever.
For example, when I did my show,I had a black background as well
and I was like, no, I'm going towear a red, maroon, red jacket.
So it's like there's no way to just.
Fall. I think Jimmy or Yang get
something similar. To yeah, even his rehearsals he
knew the red background so it normally wore like the blue kind
of denim thing yeah yeah, definitely will not clash yeah

(15:43):
he wanted to wear like a lighter, like a desaturated blue
one and he was like oh it's it looks faded in this light
because he had the more yellow light and yellow hitting blue
makes it very great, right yeah yeah yeah so yeah you.
Got that. So all of yeah, all of those
decisions, especially like, you know, so the camera, we wanted
something. It's also quite bright,
obviously bright on stages normal, but the the are you

(16:03):
saying are? You saying the event was bright?
No, I'm saying the comedians aredumb.
I. Was trying to like my brain to
be like, so the event's bright, the event's slapping, and this
guy's paying cash. Hey, look what I did there.
Nice. See, these are the tangents.
You didn't get the last 6. Weeks.
Yeah, I I have to admit, I hate to admit, but I totally miss

(16:25):
them. None of the Bush like, oh, he
seems like he has a point. Yeah.
Oh, he doesn't, Yeah. No, no, never mind, you know.
This is why it's a tangent, not a point.
Yes, so, so the the the stage isbright.
That's normal when you're doing a show like this.
Now look at the change of the words.
Yeah, it's not the Eventbrite. Don't cute.
Don't like? Comedians are dumb.

(16:45):
The events are bright. You're like, let me avoid any
chance we have to pop into another tangent again.
Yeah, let me, let me just walk the movie now.
I'm going to tango. The movie?
No, the movie with Sean Connery and Catherine, Is it a Jones?
She's going through that. No, no, no.
The the in in in champ. No, it wasn't that the.

(17:05):
It's going through the red. Escaping one, right?
Yeah, the escaping, yeah. Anyway, yeah.
That's me now. Walking around, I just don't
have anything. So you're at the thing.
The event is bright and the comedians are dumb.
We're trying to get an angle of the.
Camera. I feel like that sounds like a
Christmas. The event was bright and the
comedian, but it came down for the ha ha ha, and down the

(17:27):
chimney came Ben. If you really want to find like
the dumbest fucking thing related to those shows is Ben
for the last week of before the show hired like a like a
marketing company that like madelike really silly videos for
him. Oh yeah, I saw a couple of those
are so fucking. Hilarious just because Ben is
like obviously he's a comedian and everything but he's such a

(17:49):
serious guy and like the stuff he does and to for him to do
like millennial TikTok style videos are so funny.
This guy is really trying hard. Yeah, yeah, he's trying very
hard. You can still find them on the
backstage company Instagram. We did not the.
Best thing is, dude, he's going to like be like at some
financial fintech symposium. Yeah.

(18:09):
And then they're like, we up next.
We have a very a non liberal speaker and we did some research
online and here's something elsefor you to see.
Yep, he's like, guy, come to my show.
Yeah, yeah. It's like there is one where
he's like trying to like it's like a stupid video.
So I think the way they do thesevideos now get.
Your attention with those. Video, video.
And then you were commenting or you're doing your own version.

(18:31):
Yeah, yeah. And yes, I agree with you with
this. I saw this for the first time.
Like it's funny, objectively funny, but I also want to kill
myself. Yeah, you're like, This is why
come to this Exactly. Come to this now, like we're
trying to trick you like bait and switch you Yes, like oh,
this is oh wait, it's not anymore.
Well, I'm in anyway, yes. There's one with like a car
about to crash. Yeah.
And then and then it goes like come.

(18:52):
To my show, Yeah. Fuck you, man.
You know? Oh dude.
Yeah, no, we're Dude. We have come to a point in our
lives where, like, I know they don't want to listen to me.
Yes. So I'm gonna trick you.
And I know that you are unable to get your attention away.
You have the discipline. Yeah.
To to scroll. To you're not gonna, yeah,
you're not gonna shut it down right after.
You're in. Yeah, exactly.
You're in it. Anyway, you're like, I must have

(19:13):
finished the video so I can judge it afterwards.
Yeah. Yeah, dude, we come to that
point. So again, everybody, if you have
we seen the movie Armageddon. Yeah.
Now you can stop praying. The last day is going to happen
now. True.
Yeah. Yeah.
I think, I think it's time. Anytime you know.
Happy birthday, God. So go ahead, try to position
the. Camera event is bright.
The can be the dumb. Yes, exactly.

(19:34):
It's like one of those games where you like every time you're
adding or like what is. It Oh yeah yeah one we have to
memorize right? Yes, yes, yes.
Event is bright. OK Event is bright.
The can be the dumb OK, OK Eventis bright.
Can be the dumb yes van cooling in the house Event is bright.
Can be the dumb. You gave my point.
Yes, the camera camera crew is on standby.
Camera crew is standby, but there is one angle that is
really difficult because the event is right.

(20:00):
I I know where you're going withthis.
I know exactly. The audience is really dark.
Exactly right. And that's not because of their
skin. You your choice of word was
good. The event was bright.
The audience was dark. Dark.
Double meaning That could be stupid as well.
No, no, that's what I mean. There's 400 feet.
I don't want to call them stupid.
The audience was dark, darkly lips.

(20:22):
Yes, yes. Don't be careful.
Yeah, they don't. Banquin doesn't know Dark
audience. No, he does not.
Actually, there is also hilarious.
We had, we had a refund request because Ben right after, because
Ben went too hard at somebody. I'm going to mention this
because it's hilarious. Really.
Later. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Later. In there.
Wow. I'll tell you, yeah.

(20:43):
Which also sucks because I went back to the footage.
Let me let me try to set up the first part.
Right. The event is bright.
The audience was dark. This guy in the front.
No, was not a guy in the front. There was a woman in the back.
Okay, so the was bright, the ISIS died, the woman in the back

(21:05):
couldn't take some slack. Yes, yeah.
Okay, when I watch, I mean, you're doing something like
this, you also realize, well, now I'm the fucking director
because I literally have to liketell him what vision do I see
for that, for the. Video.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. What type and?
He's like, what kind of thing? So.
He's a camera person, right? He's a camera person.
Yeah, yeah, sorry. But he's like the the the main

(21:27):
head. Yeah, he tells everyone.
I want, I want to. I want to type one of the.
Yeah, yeah. And then we also wanted options
for editing later. Did he do the did he do the, you
know, like how a lot of these pretentious camera people, they
don't they have, they use their hands to make the frame like how
they do that. Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, and he's like I. See.
OK, he did that with one we had wide like all the.

(21:48):
Wide shot, right? Yeah.
Yeah, super. Cool.
So I mean I, I take hopefully itlooks it looks all right at the
end, but I take pride and like Ichose all of these angles.
He obviously has experience. He's like, for example, I chose
1 angle kind of behind the comicand he said, oh, it might not
look very good because like the,the spotlights too the spot.

(22:08):
Yeah, exactly the spotlight, butalso like the comic looks too
big and the audience. Yeah, yeah, because it's a wide
angle lens. Wide angle.
Yeah, it's so good that obviously has this kind of
experience, but eventually we settled on like that one side 1
I wanted because I've seen a lotof stand up specials where you
are seeing the comic and the audience in the same shot.
They laughed. At the behind the scenes side
shot. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

(22:28):
Yeah, behind the comedian, not. It's actually more over the
side. Yeah, yeah, exactly.
So I really wanted that. I think that would look really
cool. The problem is that the audience
is too dark, so we're going to have to like, light it up in
editing. Yeah, yeah.
Oh, you didn't light up the room?
No so yeah, we. Yeah, exactly we had settled for

(22:49):
I ran it past Benham like this is your show.
We can be uncomfortable. Yeah, yeah, if you're OK with
it, we can light up the room foreverybody.
Yeah. And the the openers we have no
say. Yeah, yeah, it's up to you.
And he goes no, I don't want to see the whole.
Fair enough. Yeah, Yeah, because his
priority. Obviously exactly.
And I, as a short runner, my priority is also the show first
before the filming. Yeah, yeah.
So if he is comfortable, if he doesn't want to see the

(23:11):
audience, we're not seeing the audience.
Yeah. I told them we can light it up
if you're talking to them. And he's like, I have too much
work distracting. And you know how it is like with
the comics, you are, oh, even ifyou're facing 400 people and
you're killing, you see some fucking guy up there on his
phone. And now.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And Ben also, again, because he
was like, it's his big night or whatever.

(23:32):
I knew he was going to take liberties, so I wanted to limit
that as much as possible for him.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's another reason I wanted
to keep it dark, because I know he might go after somebody.
He's like, hey, what the fuck isyour problem, God.
Damn it. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
We got to go now. Yeah.
So. Yeah, but like the clock and
flap team, Oh, do we also have Burton do taking photos?
Yeah. And so it's like a professional

(23:53):
photographer is also asking is like, oh, should I go in the
lobby? There's only one of him.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. So should I go in the lobby?
Should I check people? And I'm like, so answering all
of these things, but once like we started checking people in,
it was pretty smooth. Oh, we had like one big decision
on Ben had notes. So now.
All you want to put on the stool.
Well, avenged first we wanted toput, he wanted to put it on the

(24:16):
stool and I'm like, you cannot put it on the stool because of
filming, even though it's easierto remove it in the post.
You get the other technique. He doesn't want the audience to
see. It, yeah.
So what you can do is actually you put the sheet of paper on
the stool, hopefully it's smaller than the circumference
of the stool, otherwise you put like a towel in front of it.
Yeah, So what we ended up with, what we ended up with is
actually 3 bottles of water in front covering it so the

(24:40):
audience doesn't see it at all. Yeah, yeah, but those 3 bottles
of water are not the ones he's drinking from, so there is a
fourth one. So the 4th 1 is like where he's
drinking and all of them you have to take the label off
because filming. And then there's a towel.
Now the stool is too crowded, but he wants a towel because
he's bald. He's like I'm going to sweat.
So now we need the towel to be hanging off the stool on the
side, but the three bottles on top are actually glued to the

(25:02):
stool, so they. Don't fall.
So all of these decisions were making them kind of like with
the clock and flap team. So good thing is that we just
decide what we want to do and they just make it happen.
I'm like, OK, glue these 3 bottles, take the labels off.
You're like, OK, done, bring us a towel.
OK, done all of that stuff. But the Ben was like maybe 50-60

(25:24):
minutes into his set and he was doing, he didn't do too much
crowd work. And I watched the whole set
after as well. There's 100 minutes.
He just like a couple of times is like who's been to Thailand?
And then someone goes like, Oh yeah, yeah, leads into a bit and
all of that. But he had a bit like that would
be considered crowd work when hejust talks about like who works
for corporates or something and someone way in the back.

(25:46):
So this was kind of like, in a way, the best of Ben Quinlan.
Oh yeah, yeah, the. Best, the best of OK, yeah.
So the best of hits, kind of, yeah, yeah.
Yeah. Which is like, got it, he wrote.
100 minutes and just went straight up.
I'm like, OK, OK. No, it's also because.
We can do stuff as well, but I'msaying like it's it's the the
golden of the golden of the yeah, got it, got.
It and and we're going to take the best like 50 or whatever,

(26:07):
obviously, yeah, obviously really good, yeah.
You have a lot of editing space,yeah.
Exactly, but he that that personwas just completely in the dark
in the back, like you cannot seethem at all.
And Ben goes like, what do you do?
Like who works for corporate or something?
And she goes, I do and he goes, what do you do marketing.
And then the interaction goes something like, what do you

(26:27):
market? And she just goes quiet and he
goes, you're not really very good at your job at all.
The marketing. That got a huge laugh and that,
but then he went back to her a couple of times and one time she
actually had a really good response, that kind of applause.
Oh shit. Yeah, she goes Yeah, no, yeah,
he she explained her company. Yeah, like what the company does
exactly, but she explained it insuch like professional like.

(26:48):
Oh yeah, we, we, we eliminated the need for it, all that kind
of thing. Yeah, yeah, memorizing that, she
tells them. Yes, yes.
And then everyone went and then clap.
And then Ben wasn't annoyed or anything, but he's like, you
know, if you're bantering with an audience member, that's kind
of like they got a point. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So. So.
Eventually he mentioned something, he talked to somebody

(27:10):
else that I think in front of her and then she explained her
own job better. The.
Person in front now. The first in front but not
explaining that person, she explaining her own job.
Oh yeah, yeah. So person A in the back already
did the whole thing of like, that's what I do now.
Person B in front yes, explaining what person B does.
Yes, exactly. And he goes, see, that's how you
stupid bitch explain your job orwhatever, right?

(27:32):
Yeah, and that also got in, in fairness, in the room.
But you know how what is with comedy shows like?
Even when I'm saying it now, yougive me a face like.
That's yeah, but over that moment as a.
In that moment it it worked. That's that that's actually the
fucked apart like even as an if I am hard, I'm not going to be
happy, which which is why when they so actually I will get to
the comments later as well, because the comment was crazy.

(27:54):
Yeah, so and he's like they're gonna laugh whatever, whatever.
Apparently someone who was sitting a friend of mine who was
sitting behind them. I've actually she walked out.
I didn't know that. Oh shit, OK.
Which actually I was like floating around and I didn't see
anyone leave and I don't know how how long into the set or
whatever. And again, this is like an
exception. The whole show was great.
Nobody else walked out, nothing else crazy happened.

(28:16):
But then we made like a post with some photos or whatever
after the show and then we get like this crazy long comment,
but not from that person. Not personal person B.
Not person in person B. In fact, it's clear someone who
is not at the show at all. What was told about this was.
Told about the show, but it's actually like a friend of
theirs. So it's the husband or person A.

(28:37):
No, not even. It's a friend who doesn't live
in Hong Kong. It's wild, dude.
Yeah. It's the, it's the wife of the
suitcase cash guy. Yeah, he came in here.
He's I'm going to watch this fucking show.
I'll pay some cash. I don't know who it is.
And I want you to hate the shit out of this guy.
Yeah, I would read it for you because it's it's yeah.

(28:57):
I'm afraid this is the first time this actually.
Let me see which what what post you're talking.
About right. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I will show.
It so I'll just quickly describethe post of what it is, what
were the intentions, whatever, and then you can tell me about
the comment. Yeah, OK.
Well. It's on the backstage Instagram,
is that correct? It was.
I deleted the comment and actually the person as well
because I don't do like. I don't just delete comments.
If someone is just trying to be offensive for no reason, of

(29:19):
course I'll delete it. If someone is fucking bullying
or trolling I will delete it. But that that comments.
Okay so I will show you that now.
You want to see what the post isfirst?
Yeah, post it just like yeah. Like what did you what, like if
you posted thing fuck everyone where the fucking funniest
people motherfucker right, yeah,then I'll be like, OK, I would I
would write a hateful. Comment It was literally like
that it. Was just like, I'm thankful that

(29:39):
we had the opportunity to. Laugh with everyone.
Yeah, it was like a lot of. Those right like gratis you kind
of like, hey, thanks for coming.All of us on the on the stage.
Yeah, it was. It was this one here.
Oh is dated? Yeah, it's all of you guys.
Yeah, all of us like super nice like.
Everybody. Yeah, we did.
Thank you. Yeah.
We did it Collaboration. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's like all the photos from Bernie behind the scenes and
stuff. Little recap, yes, little recap.

(30:00):
And it's dated on the 26 days ago Instagram show six days ago,
which is 20 whatever, 22nd I would say yeah.
So now after like, I think the next day, yeah, we get a like
look at how big this comment is.Whoa.
So so. Whole phone screen size.
Yeah, yeah, whole phone screen size, but I'm actually read it

(30:21):
because now no one can see it anymore because I deleted it.
Yeah, yeah. So the person goes had Ben
Quinlan actually because Ben Quinlan is tagged is
collaborated. So I think she's direct
commenting to him, actually, yeah, but.
It comes in both, of course. Yeah.
Yeah, I don't know what's more tragic that I heard about the
show all the way from California.
She's not in Hong Kong. Wow.
Because how bad it was. Or that comedy in Hong Kong has

(30:43):
sung solo that tires corporate burnouts, whose crowd work quote
UN quote is just verbal assault.Work.
Have we verified with Ben? Is this his ex?
That's actually someone else said that, but it's not no no I.
Feel gay? Is it one of his one night
stand? You're getting better in trouble
my friend. I got someone else said that is.

(31:03):
It oh, is Deutsche Bank. It's Deutsche Bank, yeah.
Anyway, going on. It goes on for a while.
As someone who actually goes to real comedy shows to see real
comedians, the funniest part of your night was you branding
yourself as one bird. OK Oh shit, I heard.
I heard from a bird that you were saying you were comedian.
I heard it all the way in California.

(31:23):
That's, I mean, it's, it's really mean, which This is why I
also like, deleted it. She goes, do us all a favor and
crawl back into the hole you came from.
The one where a drunk colleague once told you to try comedy
Quote UN quote. You're making the world a lot
more sad than it needs to be. Wow.
Given your 2000 followers, it's not late to end your lease on
your Instagram handle. Then comes the backstage comedy

(31:46):
roast. Oh, then they go to backstage.
Then yeah, this is all at then, yeah, this is a lot at then,
yeah. And then at the backstage, if
you're booking gigs just to keepthe lights on, at least do the
bare minimum research and bring in real local talent not to wash
up corporate burnouts. Again, just giving angry teenage
boy with mommy issues. OK, OK.
Funny, yelling verbal abuse at women in your audience does not

(32:08):
make a does not make a show edgy.
They already didn't want to be there, but someone convinced
them it would be fun. I don't know about that.
It makes the act and the club that hosts them look pathetic
and outdated in 2025. And that's when I actually not
not all of this. I'm like, OK, even if you were
at the show, this is like angry feedback.
That's when I started going like, oh, you're just being mean
for no reason. The like the last two things,

(32:30):
4000 followers for the whole comedy club is wild.
I've seen neighborhood dog accounts with more reach do
better. And I'm like, well this has
nothing to do with anything. Yeah, exactly this.
Has nothing to do with the show.Now we're just being just nasty.
Like, oh, you have any followers?
Yeah, it's like. OK, yeah.
What's your point? Like, and especially when she
outed herself as someone who's not at the show and like, you
have no right then. Yeah, Yeah, exactly.

(32:50):
You're not a paying customer. Yeah, right.
So I actually messaged her. Yeah.
And I go, hi, I deleted your, your, your comment because it
just seemed unnecessarily mean. Yeah, towards backstage like
that, especially that last part.Whatever.
Whatever. Yeah.
And she actually said like, yes,I wasn't at the show.
My friend was the one that Ben said something bitch to.

(33:12):
Oh, so A or. B.
Yes, A or B. Like actually it's A and then
and she was like, she was like, I didn't, she didn't want to
like like say anything but. I had to stand up for my girl.
I heard about it all the way, but she was really just going at
it to the point I'm like, OK, I understand what?
Please. Like, you know, I, we're
professionals. Even if Ben stepped out of line,

(33:33):
she can reach out to me as a producer and I'll make it up to
her, talk to me, whatever, whatever.
Yeah. But she just chose that person.
The comment person, person C chose to just fight me, just
chose to just be angry. So I actually blocked her.
Eventually I'm like, this is I Iwrote, I wrote.
The last thing was we're not seeing eye to eye in this.
I'm going to end this conversation.
I just blocked her. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

(33:54):
And luckily, actually person So person to broad person A, Yeah,
yeah, yeah, yeah. So person A was actually brought
by somebody. The person D now who brought
person A is actually a regular of ours.
Oh, shit. Right.
So she reached out and she goes,hey, it's me who was with person
A, and I know who person D is. And I guess, yeah, I know you.

(34:16):
And she goes, yes, we're not happy that Ben did this.
You know who I am and I know howmuch I supported this.
I'm like, you're 100% right. Here's your money back.
And I'm so sorry that you had a bad experience.
And we actually had like a couple of really nice messages.
And then she goes water on the bridge.
And that was kind of the I'm like, please apologize to your
friend on our behalf. This is not the kind of comedy

(34:36):
night that, you know, you're coming to a comedy show.
It's not whatever. And she's like, no, I get it.
Like sometimes people make mistakes.
It's all good. And that's the end of the thing.
I did not actually tell her. Tell the fucking personal.
Comment that's how you do a bitch story yeah, that's why
yeah, that's what you thinking like tell your.
Friend with the comment I know you're doing.

(34:57):
This. That's how you tell a story.
Bitch, bitch story. Whatever it comes.
That's how you fix things. Yeah, Yeah, that's how we get a
refund. Yeah, like that.
You know, no, I was afraid that,Ben said.
That's how you tell a story, bitch, But that's how I tell you
tell a. Bitch story.
I think he said I will find the the recording again but I think
he's like Oh no, that's how you explain your job.
Not like that stupid bitch behind you doesn't know how to

(35:19):
or something. Yeah, so saying that's how you
ask for forgiveness or, you know, apology, Not like how that
stupid bitch told a friend in California.
Right, right, right, right. Right.
See what you mean. OK, yeah, fair enough.
I get it. I get it.
She's probably like, I'm just, I'm just somewhat angry.
I'm good. I mean, OK, whether the crowd
and the crowd moves, moves, moves more than half as women as
well. So I can't even say, oh, the

(35:39):
crowd sucks. If you laughed at whatever let's
Ben's crowd. Of course, let's take a step
back. Let's try to understand how the
fuck does Ben have a majority female audience of a fan
following? I think.
Other than simply being fucking rich.
Rich and handsome might be going.
Yeah, that does the handsome part.
I can't, you know, as a, as a, not.
Right now, he was. He was, yeah, like when they all

(36:01):
knew him. Yeah, you would.
You all knew. Him.
No, that's good for him. Look, I wouldn't this way, man.
You know, we need more females in comedy, yes?
You know, yeah, females in comedy doesn't mean in on the
stage females in comedy. Hey.
Around class includes audience as well, man, You know, Yeah, I
mean, exactly. Anyway, you're going.
No, but like, whether even if it's stepped out of line and the
people are laughing or whatever,it doesn't mean that they're not

(36:24):
entitled to like having like, yeah.
Of course. Yeah, they have a say.
But on top of all of this, it's also funny to me that like in
the moment, okay, this happened or whatever and these people are
mad and everything for people like for these, for the
especially the person who commented to make it about like
this show is like about demeaning women.
I'm like, that's so not fair andnot true.

(36:46):
Because even if you were the target of that, in that
particular moment, you're not women.
You're just one person. Yeah, so.
And not just that demeaning woman.
Woman. Yes.
You're right. Yeah, and on top of that, like
that person was all the way in the back.
Ben genuinely had no idea, does not know the part.
She doesn't say her name at all,actually, every time she just

(37:06):
said her company's name. Yeah, which was one of the kind
of the jokes that are running aswell.
Yeah, because when he referred back to her, he actually just
referred to her by company name.So he doesn't even know her
name. Was it one of these companies
person? Was it one of these companies
where they've had a merger whereit's like Clutch and Sherman?
No, I think it was called like Serena or something.
Oh, it's one of those yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's one of those like, yeah, yeah, Brangelina kind.
Of thing yeah, yeah, yeah. But like, yeah, like the fact

(37:28):
that, you know, like you, I think people who are not not her
particular, I understand completely.
I genuinely do. If she's mad, that's why I
refunded her. I'm like, it's fine.
But if you are also in the comedy show and you're thinking
like this is about that particular person when it's
like, no, you're actually a faceless person in the room.

(37:49):
It's not you at all. And actually Louis CK started
one of his specials by saying dohis own announcements, which was
so funny. Like you know how the theaters,
even this one, we have pre recorded ones.
Lucy literally just went on whenpeople were not expecting shows
to start. He's like, let's fucking start
the show. It was just all kind of on
purpose. He's like, I will say all the
things and he goes turn off yourphones, blah blah.

(38:12):
And he goes, If you have something going to say to me,
here's what you should do. You should go outside, write it
on a piece of paper, and you go home and kill yourself because
this show is not about you. It's so good, just perfect.
That yeah, that should be like, you know, put your like it'll be
the next trend of how they have mobile phones in a Ziploc bag.

(38:34):
Like, OK, now put your notes andcomments in this little Ziploc
bag and please. But it's like, yeah, he follows
up with because it's a rhetorical show.
It's a theatre performance. This one was branded The Theatre
Show. Yeah, yeah, literally.
Yeah, exactly. Yeah, yeah.
Again, not that her, I understand, which is why I

(38:56):
refunded her. But in general, people like if
you're a comedy show, lighten the fuck up because you are to
come. And on top of all of that, the
show, because it was so long, itdid have some lower moments,
which is normal. Those things worked.
Those were actually some of the lines of the show.
Was the crowd work bits? Oh yeah, yeah.
Yeah, that's the that's the crazy part as well as like, so
you got to understand that the context of the thing, Yeah, it

(39:18):
was working just fine. But on top of all of this, the
again, like you know, when you are producing stuff like this,
the the security is involved. Yeah.
So one of the things that I did clock a flap was not very happy
about. I went back on to like thank
everybody and like the very lastthing like Carrie, Carrie who's
hosting, like thanked everybody who took a photo, that group

(39:40):
photo with the audience. And I grabbed the mic and I
said, hey, this has been like, you know, long in the making and
all of these things. And I did say Ben is going to
stay here on stage. If going to take photos with
him, please come on this side, like stage right, stage left is
actually how they enter. And then I said stage left is
you can exit that way. Apparently what I should have
said is please queue up on the right side.

(40:02):
Queue up, just gather together, right?
Which is exactly what happened. And we have two security guards
and the team was not happy aboutthat.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. What?
Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it's like, I mean, security
guards like those guys, like genuine, like it sounds like a
joke. It's a huge black guy.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Actual huge security, obviously.
Actual security guy. And he was like, I, I don't want

(40:22):
to push people, but he's like, this is, this is a messy yeah,
yeah, yeah, yeah. So we had to like tell people
like, please line up. But like, the fact that like, I
think out of 400, maybe 200 people were lining up to take
photos. With that, there you go.
Yeah. It's yeah.
It's the start of the night. It's crazy, Yeah.
Yeah, yeah. But then after that, one of the
funnier things is, and I think Imight have mentioned it on an

(40:43):
episode when you're not on, Yeah, when I talk to the venue,
like the venue threw clock and flap about the West Kowloon.
There's no like, drinks at night, but there is like that
pack like live house is attachedto.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's in the free space in the
entrance. And that happened to me as well
as the Kitty Woo Stadium. It's the same experience, which

(41:04):
is super frustrating. I asked the team to ask the
venue, are they open after or during even like, like, you
know, before people can have a drink.
Yeah, because inside there's no drinks.
Yeah, but maybe they can open after.
Yeah. Out of 400, maybe you'll get 50
people. That's money.
Yeah. And you go, oh, no, they open.
They close at like 6 or whatever, 7 and they go, can

(41:25):
they open later? And they go, let us check and
they come back. They're like, Oh yeah, they're
open. I'm like how am I the 1st?
Person. Like how is this not default
anymore? Yeah, why wouldn't you when
there's a show open? Exactly, you're also you're a
super busy venue because we're it's impossible to book, which
means you have shows every fucking night.
Exactly how is this? And that happened to me with
Kitty Woo to the point that actually at Kitty Woo is worse

(41:46):
because I, I kind of came up with that while I was doing the
recce. And then I went outside and I'm
like, oh, how about that restaurant?
You know, he actually said, I swear to go, go talk to them.
Yeah, yeah, what the fuck? So I go grab the restaurant
manager and I go that was like 2months before the show.
I'm like hey on the August blah blah I'm going to have two shows

(42:07):
here, can you open later? He goes, of course I'm like, I
got what the fuck? Yeah, there's money people, but
that is new to you. Like have you not had?
Shows how. Exactly.
Do you have like basketball? Like why wouldn't you inquire
when are the shows? Let me put in our calendar.
We'll open for those. Also, you're in the fucking
building. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I'm not saying you're the McDonald's across the street.

(42:28):
You're part of the same. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Structure. It's just mind bending to me
that. But that one I actually research
more and turns out because the Kiddie Woos complex is owned by
Tonghua Hospital Group. Yeah, and it's kind of a charity
thing. Yeah, Tonghua is a charity.
Thing, Yeah, yeah. So I think the whole thing is
not obviously for profit like. Yeah, not supposed to be so
obviously for profit. Yeah, yeah.

(42:49):
So that what that guy is just a restaurant manager.
Yeah. So he's just like, he's just
almost like a boring government employee.
He just. Doesn't care.
He's like. He's like, I'm just running.
Yeah, yeah, if I can go home early.
Yeah, that's what would I, Yeah.But then when I asked him, I
think he's like, yeah, that's a good idea, yeah.
Yeah, he's my one of those guys.Like if you don't say it, I
don't. Yeah, you said he's like, I

(43:11):
can't say no. I.
Can't say no. Yeah.
And I was there, obviously for the two nights.
I went and looked at the restaurant.
Fucking packed. There you go.
Because they're midweek shows, too.
Yeah. And it's 8:00 PM at next to
Kitek. Yeah.
Yeah. People are like, oh, shit.
So actually, after he did that, we, we agreed on this.
I put it on the ticketing, the the, the description.
Yeah. We said Don't Want a Cafe is

(43:32):
going to extend its opening hours.
So you don't know? Yeah.
And then people came, yeah. And I'm like.
What? Why wouldn't you?
Yeah, people need to eat. They're like, I don't want to
think. I just want to eat.
Go. So strange, but then we had to
bend, you know, the bend. I also don't want sound that the
the complaint to sound like it'sthe highlight, but it wasn't.
It was just a fun like, you know, a funny thing to tell.

(43:54):
Me. What happened?
The show was genuinely super good from start to end.
People were really happy. Ben was happy.
And again, like performing 100 minutes is is insane.
As a comedian, you know, it's just like, you know, what are
you doing? Yeah, yeah.
But yeah, I mean, he, I'm sure he's enjoying it.
Oh, he's loving it. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
In fact, I actually like when I let him.

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And like you in comedian terms, like when you like, give you
somebody the light you need to get off the stage after a
certain time. And I told him and he was like,
oh, I didn't feel the time at all.
But I'm like, yeah, but we'll have a strike out and we're
going to get punished like we'regoing to get penalized by.
And Ben's like, let me get my friend with the suitcase.
I think we're good, dude. Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Ben is like, not that he would care, but the last thing on the

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on the the highlights of the comedy season, there's so much
more, but we're already like running out of time.
The the other thing that was insane is how much we pushed for
My trade show. So Ben and My trade also have
very different methods of of promoting the shows.
Both were on the podcast to talkabout their shows and
everything, but Ben was talking to people through LinkedIn,

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which is he's an influencer on. Yeah.
He's huge on that. He's huge.
And then we did that whole marketing campaign with the
millennial videos and all the silly stuff and that really
worked. My trade reaching directly
through the Indian community. Actually a lot of tickets are
sold directly through her, not even on on ticket flap or
Eventbrite. It's just her she's talking to.
Like she's literally talking to,I don't want to say which bank,

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X bank. And then a group from that bank
is now coming and we have to manage those like seating and
whatever, which is fine. It's part of my job.
But so now, so Ben shows on the 21st, my trade, which is Sunday,
my trade is on the 23rd Tuesday.Now we have super typhoon
warning. What the fuck is the typhoon
called? Ragasa, I think Ragasa Yeah,

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yeah, yeah. So we have that warning is
actually starting already to brew from like the 19th or
something like it's. Really talking.
They're like. Yeah, so we Ben's show happened
on 21st, no problem at all. In fact there was not even rain
during that day. So we knew like on the set on
the Friday that Ben shows a go ahead, my tree shows a big

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question mark. We get to basically Monday
morning and my tree shows almostsold out.
So basically we have this shoes on theatre.
We have about almost 400 people coming.
And the problem, the bigger problem is that is that it's
sold directly through her. I don't have access to these
people. Yeah, it's just her, which puts

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so much work on her that she's the one.
No, I feel so bad for her because not only that, she's the
one who sold most of the show. She's the one who now I Ioffer
them like you can give me their contacts.
And she's like, no, they're my contacts.
It's not like that. She wouldn't give me.
She's like, it doesn't make sense.
They they wouldn't talk to you. They wouldn't.
Yeah, who the who's this guy? It makes sense.
She's like, I have to do it myself.
So by midnight, by Monday, like I think 3 or 4 PMI had a call

(46:54):
with the Susan Theatre who was super lovely.
Like the guys who run it are really professional.
The terms and conditions are a bit ridiculous.
And I told him that, like this is not something I, I, I would
shy away from because they are ridiculous, but they were very
understanding. I didn't know, you know, you're
right. You sign a thing.
It's like, OK, so if something stands out, I will know.

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The terms and conditions on the typhoon particularly are you can
reschedule within a month if there are dates available.
Yeah, then yeah, yeah. And then after that, yeah,
that's it. They just basically, so if you
can't do the show, you can reschedule with a month and if
there's no dates, there's no show.
There's no show and you lose your money.
Oh shit, yeah. Wow, yeah, yeah.
I would have thought they refunded.

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Because no, that's that's the thing.
It's not, no, it's not like there is no show and here's your
money back. Yeah, there's no show and no
money. Wow, that's you're talking about
that theater. It's it's obviously expensive
theater. So I just emailed the guy.
I'm like, yo, it seems like typhoon is happening.
He was like, yeah, I'm like, So what do you have in the next
month? He goes nothing.

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I'm like so and he goes, OK, letme see.
And then he gives me a date in November that doesn't work for
my tray. And then we end up on the 4th of
January, which is next year. But then super accommodating
because the couple of other dates he gave us was not good.
Like 1 is a Monday and one is 27th of December that no one is
going to do that. But for give us a Sunday, which

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is a good day and it's 4th of January.
But that was also the right nextday after Ben show.
So after imagine haven't haven'tdone that crazy.
You're like, yeah, let's do it here.
Like Oh no show. Yeah, no show.
And actually the, the, the, the typhoon itself is coming.
So it's actually like, it's likebecoming kind of scary outside.

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So people are like, I'm at home,like trying to deal with all of
this. Talking to my tree was obviously
very stressed out, but I'm like,I have no food at home.
So I have to go like fight the aunties on the supermarket.
Grab a whatever little package. Which was also annoying in and
of itself, because turns out thetyphoon was absolutely nonsense.
I mean. It was, it was, it was, it was

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nothing where we're like, holy shit, especially.
With the food thing, it was it was just one every.
Typhoon, dude, I know you guys stop doing this.
That's why I tell you I'm like, dude, this is not the first
typhoon. I don't get it, guys, Even if
it's three days long. Like buddy, come on.
This is one of the richest cities in the world.
You have food in your house. Yeah, just like what I'm saying

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is you should take the time to finish the food in your house,
not just buy new. Food keep it there because
Justin gets like dude. This is not war.
It's not like open-ended. I know, I know, the observatory
as it makes a lot of mistakes, but it's not like the typhoon is
going to be here for six months.It doesn't make sense.
Why are we fucking fighting overlettuce?
It's just stupid. Exactly.

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Let us have some peace. Have some peace next time.
Here's the take away from all ofthis.
First of all, if you get yelled at by the comedian in the
audience, it's not about you. OK, fine.
If you're like, if you know, if you're, if you're what's the
word embarrassed in a show like this, you're in the dark.
No one knows. No one knows.

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Like literally it doesn't matter.
But you know, if if that happensto you and you feel like
entitled, please be respectful because you're still talking
even if you are not respected. Maybe talk take the higher Rd.
like be like hey I had this experience I don't feel like
this was fair or whatever. Don't send somebody to trash the

(50:24):
comedy page. Tell them it was unhappy it.
Was unhappy and then they take. These words of mine.
And neighborhood dog followers, which is like kind of funny.
Like I, I, I agree that it's like, OK, oh, Zinc, but like,
you were not on the show. You're not entitled to trashing
us. The question was that person who
said you don't have any followers, how many followers

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does she have? Oh yeah, a great question.
I blocked herself. Who cares?
But the last thing is obviously this is a lot of work for for
us. So you know, a lot of people
from the listeners came to shows, which is amazing.
My Tree show is now rescheduled to the 4th of January and
obviously, understandably, some people refunded their tickets,

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some people bought new tickets, which is all cool, but we're now
we have tickets we're about to sell out.
We were about to sell out. Now we have tickets open.
So come to that show. My tree show.
See this whole episode was aboutlike theatre shows and stuff.
See how that's like in action. You actually might end up being
on the show if you're. Around, yeah, yeah.
Except because you were originally on the.
I was really supposed to be one of the openers.

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One of the openers. Yeah.
Yeah. So you might.
Actually. They might.
We'll figure it out. Yeah, we'll figure it out.
Actually, if you're not even booked, I can have you do the
voice of God or something. It'll be fine.
Please welcome to this day. I want you to do that for, for,
for Ben, because you're going tobe.
Oh, yeah, yeah. And also Joe, right, Joe only.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, just to to the like the
MMA voice. I know.

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Yeah, you, you like genuinely, if you're around for the 4th of
January, like it would be cool to see like what we're talking
about. Oh by the way, last thing is for
the 4th of January for my Tratio, I do not have clock and
flap, so I'm actually doing it genuinely by myself.
Oh nice. Yeah, yeah, I will hire people,
ushers, blah, blah, blah. But like, I do not have that
even like the people who are like, OK, go do that.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'll do it totally solo.
Nice. So it will be even a crazier
experience. It will be fun.
I'm excited to figure it out. Yeah.
To talk about it exactly. Every time you do it, it just
gets better and gets even. The challenges get different.
And if there's the old one, you got to get excited like, oh, I
know how to do that. Yeah.
Yeah, right. It's like the light key or
whatever. It's like, oh, no, no, no, I
know. Yeah, that's cool.

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So very fun. And yeah, thanks everyone for
listening. Thanks for coming to the shows.
I am as you're listening now, I'm on holidays staring at
something that is not my phone or fucking numbers or or
comedians yelling at me or audience.
So we'll be back on the 11th of October for backstage shows,
1118 and so on. And Rich and Cheryl are coming

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on the 25th. Top 2 comedians from Singapore
coming doing a show together. We'll talk about this another
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