June 14, 2023 • 40 mins
(00:00 - 01:05) Intro
(01:05 - 01:59) 1856 Old Fashioned
- 2 1/4 oz Ben Holladay Bottled-In-Bond Bourbon
- 1/2 oz Gomme Syrup
- 3 dashes Orange Bitters
- 3 dashes Aromatic Bitters
(01:59 - 03:58) Welcome Matt and Tucker
(03:58 - 09:45) What is it like to work in the stillhouse day to day?
(09:45 - 14:03) Tasting bourbon
(14:03 - 20:34) Kyle's special surprise
(20:34 - 22:48) What is your favorite Holladay Bourbon?
(22:48 - 30:58) Blending bourbon (Holladay Soft Red Wheat - May 2023)
(30:58 - 34:03) Hipsters
(34:03 - 37:33) What is actually our favorite bourbon?
(37:33 - 40:38) Kyle's barrel pick
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
They came on, so I wanted to get something special.
Speaker 3 (00:10):
That's figured it out .
I'm gonna let Tucker tell uswhat this is cuz, i think he
knows exactly or if he doesn't.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
If you don't, you should be fired.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
I think I know what it is.
Welcome to holiday happy hour.
We are back at the holidaydistillery with some very
(00:52):
special guests today that wehave yet to hear from on holiday
happy hour.
So we're gonna talk productiontoday.
We're gonna really talk aboutwhat the life is a day in the
life of making bourbon.
But before we get there,brendan, what are we drinking?
Speaker 4 (01:08):
so today we are drinking a 1856 old-fashioned.
So it's our classicold-fashioned, but we put a
little twist on this.
Today we're drinking it withBen holiday Rick house proof.
So it is two ounces and aquarter of Ben holiday Rick
house proof, and then half ounceof our gums syrup and then
three dashes orange bitters,three dash, three dashes of
(01:29):
Angostura bitters, and you stirthat up and garnish with an
orange peel delicious, i meanit's very good.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
It's not a twist for me, because that's the way I
always drink it like.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
I always get Rick house, that's my go-to order.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
Yeah, that makes me probably an alcoholic.
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
But no, kyle, you just like the full flavor, i do,
that's what it's.
It's, it's really good.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
I enjoyed this.
Speaker 4 (01:51):
This is my, for sure, my go-to yeah, so I mean, we
figured we had the still houseguys here.
We got to do something special.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
So yeah, speaking of the still house guys, so we have
master over here.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
Yes, yeah, you know he's a regular.
That was really nice of youthey are very special you know
we actually like talk about youguys, all the time you do this
without them we could not.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
That is so true, all you guys.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
I, you know I do appreciate them.
I also like to make fun of them.
They, you know, make fun of meback.
They're gonna try to be nicetoday we'll see gonna try to get
them to make fun of me, but no,they're not, it's gonna happen,
it's gonna happen, it's gonnahappen.
There's a lot of drinks on thetable there are plenty of time?
Speaker 2 (02:33):
yep, just a matter of time not even just drinks,
delicious drinks sorry and sorry, but like a surprise a surprise
that no one knows about herefor you.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
I yeah yeah, i poured it.
I have this bad habit so Ialways interrupt Jordan.
So I feel like there wasprobably questions coming and I
just interrupted the wholepodcast.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
So he does this every time you know, and it was
actually more, not so muchquestions, but I wanted to
properly introduce you both.
So here on the far end we haveMatt and we have Tucker, and
Matt and Tucker work veryclosely with Kyle and the still
house, so they are the onesdoing the work right.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
Kyle, like making the distillate yeah, i often get
asked what I actually do, andit's not make bourbon.
These two definitely arecoordinating and doing all of
that and I just go out into themarket, so they, they have the
the real job for sure masterdistiller is deceiving it's not
(03:35):
what it sounds like yep, yep,mm-hmm, yeah, so
Speaker 3 (03:39):
he does a lot he does he does do a few things, but
but yeah, i can't really saythat he works closely with us in
the still house when we see him, like once a day.
Okay, that's twice, twice on agood day, okay.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
So you don't work closely with Kyle, but you do
make some bourbon.
So, with that being said, whatdoes your day-to-day look like
when you get here?
what time do you get here?
Speaker 5 (04:01):
in the morning probably before I start this,
because it's gonna, i mean Iusually hear about ten after
seven okay eight.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
He's supposed to get here at seven, as I think where
Tucker's going with that okaybut you know people, you know we
all have our own schedules,right.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
Yeah, so when you get here at ten after seven, then
what happens?
Speaker 3 (04:26):
I mean, if you want the honest, it's.
I sit down in the quads a hutfor about 15 minutes and I talk
with Bob and Ryan prepares forthe day.
I get the day started for theday yeah, i go create batch
paperwork and bring it up toTucker okay, okay so I'll give
the quick intro just to kind ofgive the precursor.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
So Matt is, he's the supervisor in the still house,
so he does kind of coordinatesall of where everyone's going
throughout the day, as well asmaintaining all our records with
the TTV.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
So in order very important very important.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
Yeah, you know that the government they want to make
sure they know how much alcoholis being produced, make sure
that we're paying taxes on itand complying with all
regulations, and so that's kindof what Matt does on a daily
basis.
Tucker is in the still houseand so he's the one starting up
the column, starting up theboiler, running the column,
making every cook and kind ofmanaging everything that happens
(05:21):
in that building.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
So there's the intro, the bourbon.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
Tucker is actually making the berm.
That's kind of like a mini mewhere he's not really doing much
to be fair used to.
Speaker 5 (05:30):
Matt started the whole process.
He was here from the beginning.
Okay, so I can't take all thecredit.
Matt started everything.
I don't even have any of mystuff.
I'm waiting for that soonenough, i'm sure.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
Two years, okay, okay three years.
Speaker 5 (05:46):
Three years, yeah, two and a half three yeah, so
how long?
Speaker 2 (05:49):
when did both of you start working here?
how long have you been here?
Speaker 3 (05:53):
I started in the bottle shop in 2011 what were
you doing in the bottle shop?
working on the line, didmaintenance for a little while
okay, yeah whatever justwhatever they were.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
Nice Tucker, what about you?
Speaker 5 (06:10):
so I started in the bottle shop in 2019 and then I
came over to the still house.
It would have been 2020.
It was on superglue wow so likethat was, like Man, do I really
want to work here?
Don't want to go watch theseason.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
Man, that's a tough choice.
Speaker 5 (06:28):
It's a tough decision , and that's the where I'm at.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
Wow, well, you persevered.
You got a Super Bowl win, soYeah wow, that's a memorable
first day, though, if I couldsay so myself.
So you started on a Sunday,like, is that a thing?
Speaker 5 (06:43):
Yeah, because we were running Sundays then.
Ok, so that's just how thepaper era started, and we
started on a Sunday.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
OK.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
We had two different Kind of days, two different bids
open at that time Tuesdaythrough Saturday, and then
Sunday through Thursday.
And so, yeah, when you firststarted in there, that was the
route it was.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
OK.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
Run seven days a week , Split it and then, when
everyone was here overlap, Youhad everyone, the entire crew
available to rack barrels, fillbarrels, dump barrels, do all
the actual moving of product.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
Wow, I didn't know that about you.
I was just telling them beforewe started recording that
they'll wave to me and be nicewhen I see them out on the road
or whatever, but I don't reallyknow them.
They're too cool to hang outwith me because they're too busy
making bourbon and I'm too busyrecording podcasts with the Pod
Squad, I guess, or I don't know.
whatever it is, we do.
We don't get a lot of invites,so To be clear, unfair when I
(07:44):
did invite you Shut up, shut upYou were not happy about it and
I sent you a very nice email andthen you just responded to Kyle
and you said no.
Speaker 5 (07:55):
But you didn't send it to me.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
I took it back.
I thought it was a good idea.
Yeah, Tucker has this habit oftyping on his phone what he
wants to reply, screenshottingit and then sending it to Matt
and I to see the his version ofthe response.
And so, yes, he originallyreplied just no to Jordan on if
he was available to do this.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
I think it was.
I think there was also.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
I was actually recording a podcast.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
Was it way worse?
I think there's probably.
Please share.
Speaker 5 (08:24):
There wasn't no screenshot there, so Probably
some profanity involved, Nope.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
Well, in their defense, though, whenever I
asked them to do this, I saidwhat did I say?
Casual conversation, somebourbon, some drinks, no video.
Speaker 5 (08:39):
Why not?
That was a lie.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
I really didn't know.
Brendan surprised me with this,you knew, but I didn't know.
Speaker 4 (08:45):
Kyle knew.
I think Kyle was one of theonly ones that knew.
I knew last Friday.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
But we scheduled this what like a week ago.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
Yeah, i don't know.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
Anyway, a week ago, So you guys are troopers.
I appreciate you.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
But I would have told them before they found out
today they wouldn't have wornmatching shirts.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
And I think that's very nice.
Speaker 3 (09:04):
It's beautiful.
That's what we call it.
It's a team building.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
Team building.
I like that.
That's how you make the bestbourbon.
Speaker 5 (09:11):
I'm glad Kyle didn't tell me, because then my whole
vacation would have been ruined.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
Your vacation?
did you just get back fromvacation?
Where'd you go?
You do look a little tan.
Speaker 5 (09:23):
I'm burnt We went to Cancun.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
Show us that burn.
I'm wearing a shirt.
Very nice, i want to do that.
It's his first time on HolidayHappy Hour.
He's ancient into it.
Speaker 5 (09:32):
I want to come back, guys, i don't.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
Yes, well, glad I couldn't make you too anxious.
Well, yeah, so you make thebourbon.
What else do you get to do?
You get to taste the bourbon?
We were just talking about thata little bit.
Speaker 5 (09:45):
Yeah, that is one of the perks.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
Is that the perk of the job?
Speaker 1 (09:49):
So what happened last time you two were affiliated
with the Holiday Happy Hourpodcast?
Speaker 2 (09:55):
Good question.
Speaker 5 (09:58):
That was a deal.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
We were drunk at 8.30 in the morning.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
Pretty much.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
I mean, that was the just note.
I think, we had what 20?
Speaker 5 (10:10):
different samples 18 or 19 barrels we sampled.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
So yeah, how does that work?
Because at that point do youeven know, this is a good one,
You just like they're all good.
Speaker 5 (10:22):
I mean, after thousands of them, they all
start tasting For context Kyleneeded us to pull the samples
for your guys' podcast.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
Right for the barrel pick.
Speaker 5 (10:32):
So it was still winter, then It was cold And we
went and pulled them.
And you can't really get a goodfeel of the barrels when it's
cold out, so we pulled them,pulled the samples, brought them
back down here, let them sitovernight.
I came back the next morning.
Let's, let's do it in themorning, get it over with.
(10:52):
Well, like halfway through, i'mlike I'm there, like this is.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
This is Getting out of control out of control, but
your boss asked you to do it.
We did it great.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
We, we, we powered through it.
Speaker 5 (11:12):
And I went back up there and worked and I mean I.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
Like I do that often to you guys where I make you go
pull samples, That was the firsttime where it was unique of you
.
Know you have to pull and tasteand select.
That's true because Mick wantedit to be completely blind for
me going into the podcast aswell.
So he did a great job.
I appreciated that.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
Well, it was fun.
Tucker's favorite was the firstone out.
Speaker 5 (11:40):
That's true.
I mean, I don't think I wasdisappointed.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
I mean he tried.
Yeah it's always good to haveone where it's like an easy out,
like I know that's not the onethat I like.
Like, yeah, that was helpful.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
So, yes, if anybody did listen to that episode, it
also got a little out of control, but for all the samples that
were pulled, there was anunanimous choice Between four of
us, except for Kyle was theoutlier.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
I was the grand one ended up choosing that one.
Which one did I pick?
I think I picked the same oneas Matt.
Speaker 4 (12:17):
Because I, when I talked to him later that day,
and I think it was a sample thatMatt was his favorite.
Speaker 5 (12:21):
That's one that was my favorite.
No, it was the second.
Yeah, Yeah but.
Speaker 4 (12:26):
But it's also exciting because that is sold
out now, so obviously it was agreat pick, yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
I mean, it was fine.
I should have kept mine as thenext pick and let people you
know truly decide which one wasbetter and like this, was Kyle's
pick.
Like By Kyle's pick, like Ifeel like that could be the next
.
Speaker 4 (12:48):
Yeah, you keep talking about that.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
Okay both do have very nice beards, by the way.
Yeah is that a requirement tobe able to, like, make good
bourbon Kyle?
Speaker 1 (12:58):
You got like a beard.
No, I just don't shave all theway I just I'm lazy.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
A lot of work, i hear .
Speaker 1 (13:05):
I trim it up, but then I don't do that sometimes.
Speaker 5 (13:08):
So you can tell when I was like got something
important going on, cuz I'm yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
That's true, that's a hundred percent true.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
It's all town.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
So I brought something.
I'm gonna just jump in withthis.
I brought something special totaste today and I haven't let
anyone know what it is, so Iwanted to do it live.
Well, i guess not really live,the podcast doesn't air live,
but whatever you know, you knowwanted to do this on camera, so
Matt's been wondering why it'sso light And I just wanted to.
(13:38):
You know they they came on, soI wanted to get something
special.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
Figured it out.
This is what I know, what it is.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
I'm gonna let Tucker tell us what this is cuz, i
think he knows exactly, or if hedoesn't, you don't, you should
be fired.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
I think I know what it is Cool guys.
Speaker 5 (14:05):
I'm just my favorite already.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
There we go.
I think he's caught on Good.
Yep, go ahead, tucker, i'm noteven gonna.
I should try it.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
So that's, that's what you were raving about
forever, huh, so there is a.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
There is a certain flavored whiskey that when
Tucker first started, when hefirst started, it's like okay,
man time out.
Speaker 5 (14:38):
Okay, I'm out.
We'll let you describe now.
So when I started In the stillhouse, I didn't know Nothing
about whiskey, bourbon.
I had no idea aboutdistillation.
It's pretty obvious Andwhatever.
That's fine.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
I've grown yes, Yeah so.
Speaker 5 (14:58):
I started trying stuff and Think I know where
Kyle's going with this.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
Mm-hmm.
Yeah, i mean, you can keeptelling the story and there was
a.
Speaker 5 (15:07):
There was a certain Bourbon that was out there.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
Oh, it's not obviously One, whatever so we
always ask, like you know,what's your favorite bourbon,
what do you drink, what it, whatit like?
Matt and I have actual bourbonsthat we had drank.
We didn't have our product outyet And so we knew, we knew the
market.
We asked Tucker the samequestion and he brings up a
black cherry flavored Whiskeyand that was his latest, but so
(15:34):
that's what we just drank.
Was Was his favorite bourbon.
Speaker 3 (15:39):
Several years ago, I mean, I mean, you know that's
the first time I've ever hadthat Yep, i've never had that
either, i think I.
It is something that's.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
That's good stuff to each their own time if you do
you.
Speaker 5 (15:52):
I like that we got a hit every category, every.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
Yes, every feel like this is like for high school
kids Tucker.
Speaker 5 (16:00):
Well, I schoolers don't drink.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
It's a legal Matt.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
But doesn't mean, they don't do it for clarity.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
It's also not our product but yeah.
That's your special surprise.
So they're like everyone wasexpecting.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
I am something different, wildly disliked.
Speaker 5 (16:20):
I know.
I I think we should dive alittle deeper into that.
Speaker 4 (16:28):
So Kyle texted me earlier and he's like I have
this idea, should I do it?
I'm like, oh yes, you shouldabsolutely do it.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
I mean, I just didn't know like if that was
appropriate.
It's trying to be like nice tothem like.
Seriously.
Speaker 3 (16:44):
That was did you just drink it out of a glass?
No, I'm being serious.
Did you mix?
Speaker 5 (16:50):
it.
That's not bad.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
Yeah, seriously, how did you drink?
Speaker 5 (16:54):
it.
I think we can work on that.
Yeah, yeah, i'm sure thequestion How did you drink?
Speaker 4 (16:59):
it.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
How was that?
like I don't hate it, no, butlike back in the day when that
was your favorite thing.
Oh, what was the thoughtprocess going through your head?
Speaker 5 (17:10):
Not much Like when you looked up in the cabin.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
You seen that bottle sitting there.
You're like, hmm, so I'm gonnagrab a glass and some ice.
And then what else did you?
Speaker 5 (17:19):
put in, i was at a wedding when I tried that, so I
was already a couple beers deep.
Speaker 3 (17:25):
So like anything tasted, alright, you know yeah
so I you know So these people,that you're getting married at
bad taste also.
Speaker 5 (17:32):
Well, maybe yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
They just didn't know .
I mean, it's a wedding like yougotta have, you gotta have.
Speaker 5 (17:40):
I'm gonna try to get there.
You know, relax, yeah, but okay, so that's just that's why
we're drinking it today.
Speaker 3 (17:45):
We were nervous, now relax.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
That was the thought process there.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
You know you're ready .
You're gonna want to come back.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
I'm cherry the cherry whiskey.
Okay, but I still need to.
I need to know more.
Okay, so you're at a wedding.
That's.
That's Excusable.
Like you drink what you have ata wedding, like that's just the
option.
What makes you go into theliquor store and buy it again,
and then how do you drink itafter that?
Are you taking shots?
Are you putting it on on therocks, like what's what's going
through your head, i'm straightstraight.
Speaker 5 (18:14):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (18:18):
That's hardcore.
Speaker 5 (18:19):
I actually got My brother and my mom drunk off of
it too.
Speaker 3 (18:24):
You feel good about yourself?
I do.
I felt really good about thatnight because my mom Hasn't done
that in years.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
Well, she probably had a really good time.
She did good for her.
What's your mom's name?
bet, love that for Beth Nr.
Some crappy whiskey.
She probably would does Bethlike bourbon?
now, probably not.
Yeah, i get it.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
I mean my parents don't drink it either.
It's fine.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
Yeah, you know, it's a, It's an acquired taste.
Speaker 5 (18:52):
It's time, since we're on that.
I got a controversial statement.
So what are we got?
Speaker 1 (19:00):
Tucker is all conspiracy theories all the time
in the still house.
Speaker 5 (19:03):
I'm a little worried about where this is going.
Speaker 3 (19:05):
No, this isn't so going dinosaurs or aliens, which
one we go with today?
Speaker 5 (19:09):
It's, that's not it.
Okay, anyways, when we had aOur bourbon class, we had a our
soft red, and I haven't had ityet.
And I'm not a wheat guy, i'mnot a weeded bourbon guy.
Speaker 4 (19:25):
Not at all.
Speaker 5 (19:27):
So I tried it during our class and I loved it, and
this is going to becontroversial, but I put it
above the shorty.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
Really.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
When you say bourbon class, was that like the Mike
Beach bourbon class?
Okay, okay.
Speaker 4 (19:46):
Okay, so let's lead into this, because we've been
asking everyone this What isyour favorite expression of our
bourbon So month?
you know, ben Holiday versusSofred versus the one barrels,
like, do you have a favoritemonth or you know one barrel
that we've done?
But that is really interestingthat you would put that above
shorty, cause I feel like all ofus, like, have always put
(20:09):
shorty above anything else.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
I mean, is it interesting?
This is the guy that literallyjust told us he liked a black
cherry flavored whiskey.
Speaker 4 (20:15):
That's totally fair.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
I'm also learning Like this is just the
introduction, like he needs tobuild up to it.
Like you know, five years fromnow he'll have a different I
really like the soft drink.
Speaker 5 (20:27):
That's good.
Speaker 3 (20:28):
It's growing on me Yeah.
Speaker 4 (20:30):
This may batch that you have right now.
This is incredible.
This is really, really good.
Oh, what was it?
This plus, yeah, the one that'sempty of Matt's.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
I need to make sure that I put this officially on
air, because Patrick's not here.
He's in Ireland right now Andwe dumped the barrels for the
May bottling of holiday soft redon Tuesday.
Is it Tuesday yesterday?
And so we have the the the RickHouse version 119.
(21:04):
What was it?
five And it's?
we got to try it.
He did not.
This is definitely going tomake him upset and I just need
to make sure that it'sdocumented.
On holiday Happy hour.
Speaker 5 (21:16):
It was really good.
Speaker 3 (21:17):
He's not going to be happy about that I've had three
or four glasses of it.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
It is, it is really good.
Speaker 4 (21:24):
Yeah, I need to text him right now because he's on
his flight from Ireland to theUK right now And so when he
lands he's not going to be happywhen he sees the text.
Speaker 5 (21:32):
So it should be really happy because it's really
good, Right See?
Speaker 2 (21:36):
let's look at the bright side.
But you're right, kyle, he'sgoing to be pissed Yeah it's
going to be.
Speaker 4 (21:41):
I can't wait.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
I love it.
Speaker 3 (21:43):
Well, you know maybe we can all FaceTime him after we
could know this.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
Yeah, make him feel a little better.
Speaker 4 (21:49):
Let him know how good it is?
Speaker 2 (21:50):
Yeah, i think that's a great idea.
Speaker 4 (21:53):
Actually, we should do that Yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
Yeah, i agree I agree , yeah, i just finished my glass
of that and it's it's just,it's money.
Speaker 4 (22:00):
Yeah, No, that I was really surprised, Like cause we
did So um Kyle, I and Amanda.
Actually was it last week ortwo weeks ago?
No, it was last week, It waslast week Yeah.
We went and pulled some barrelsamples and uh, and there was
some that we were just likequestioning, like is that going
to be really good?
And then you know, eventuallythey got blended A lot of those
that we pulled into this Maybatch for soft red.
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And like I'm very surprised,like how could that turn out?
Speaker 5 (22:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
And and that's, that's still uh.
You know I have people talkingin the background over there.
I'm sure that picked up on themic.
I hope it, but not uh.
Man, i hope it but not uh.
Matt and Tucker were whisperingand judging me.
Uh, I was judging Tucker onOkay.
Speaker 3 (22:43):
Yeah, uh, still back on that, yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
Um, so, uh, I completely lost my train of
thought.
Yes, The barrels that we pulled, uh, they were, they were good,
yeah, um, but they again.
It was one of those thingswhere you pulled the sample and
it's just like you're not ahundred percent certain and that
that happens.
Um, but you know that they'regoing to be a part of the larger
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picture.
And so that was what what theones that we pulled were.
Speaker 4 (23:10):
So I know you talked about this and I want to ask
Matt and Tucker what theirthoughts are on this too.
Like cause we were talkingabout like we pulled the samples
, like we're kind of in spring,so it's kind of going through
the transition from winter tosummer where you know it's
coming in and out of that barrelright now And we noticed a lot
of the barrels like had some oddflavor or like some just
different notes that come upmore than other times.
And you know, kyle, you talkedabout like you thought maybe
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that was just due to the springseason as the changing over of
that.
Do you guys ever notice whenyou're sampling barrels,
anything like that, like duringlike spring or fall?
Speaker 3 (23:44):
I know I think a lot of times when we go sample the
barrels it's been cold up thereand there's been barrels up
there that we've sampled andthought we liked, until they
came down here and warmed up andthen we hated them.
And there's been barrels upthere that we've hated bringing
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down here and they warmed up andwe loved them.
It's hard to tell when you'reup there in the warehouse you
got dirty hands Yeah.
Speaker 5 (24:13):
Matt's spilling bourbon everywhere.
Speaker 3 (24:15):
He complains the whole time.
Speaker 5 (24:16):
So When we did the R1 barrel pick, there was one
barrel on the.
They didn't pick one you liked,No, but the one barrel we
thought we tried up there was onthe first floor.
That was gross And it was Wellwe liked it.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
Kyle, your barrel was gross It was gross, but then it
was good down here.
I feel like we need to do likeyou know, pr marketing training?
Speaker 1 (24:46):
No, these guys just they use any words, call it like
they see it Well it's thetemperatures It throws it off a
little bit.
Speaker 5 (24:53):
And when we picked our I don't know how many
barrels we picked for ourselection, what was it?
18, but we picked five out ofthose 18.
There was one where we reallyreally liked And it was.
We liked it up in the RickHouse Like we really really
liked it.
And when we got down here we'relike, okay, well, that's not
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our favorite anymore, this one'sgoing to be our favorite.
And then we just left it outbecause we're like, well, it
Just from temperatures itchanges a little bit.
So, you know, maybe it needsmore time to mature, or you know
whatever, but it throws it offwhen it's cold, and that's
something that I didn't know.
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Yeah, if we were up there andwe were picking barrels for our
selection, i would win with thatone.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
So when you're up there and you drill in, you take
a sip then and then you bringit down and let it sit.
Speaker 5 (25:50):
Typically what happens is Matt will drill a
hole in and we have to use amanual drill because Kyle won't
let us use anything else.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
I don't want sparking tools up there.
Also, the manual drill lookscooler and I mean that's what
I'm using, so it's not like I'mexpecting you to do something
else.
Speaker 3 (26:07):
Tucker likes to throw the word we around.
Speaker 5 (26:10):
Yeah, i don't, he doesn't drill never.
Yeah, that's because he holds abottle, because the third rex
is really high and I'm reallyshort and he's really tall, so,
like it's just, It works.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
It's a partnership, matt.
Speaker 3 (26:20):
And he's.
He drilled one time and he bentthe drill bit.
That's a good sense.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
That was you.
I'm kidding, i actually didn'tknow.
Speaker 3 (26:27):
Kyle's drill.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
Kyle didn't break one , he dropped, i dropped mine
from the fifth floor and it felldown and now mine is bent and I
need to get a new one becauseit doesn't work very well.
Speaker 5 (26:37):
But the typical what happens is Matt will drill a
hole with our manual drill and Iwill be ready with a bottle.
It's a real beaver, yeah, and Iwill be ready with a bottle,
and what'll happen is he'll pullthat drill bit out and nothing
will happen.
Speaker 3 (26:54):
And.
Speaker 5 (26:54):
I go.
okay, here we go again, So youhave to.
Speaker 1 (26:56):
It's only when it's cold though, and when it's cold,
it's cold Yeah.
Speaker 5 (27:00):
So because the pressure is in the barrels, they
fluctuate, they're stupid Andit's frustrating.
Speaker 3 (27:05):
So you have to drill a second hole up top so it can
vent.
Speaker 1 (27:08):
I mean, it's kind of like when you take a water
bottle and you have a sip at,you know, in the airport, and
then you close it and then yougo on the plane and you fly up
to altitude and it sucks in.
That's what the barrels thatthey're sampling are.
And so then they have to drillthe second breather hole.
Speaker 5 (27:27):
That's the worst.
And then when he gets thatsecond hole drilled, then it's
just fires out of there and I'mnot ready, i don't know what's
going on.
It's dark, i got a flashlightAnd it just gets everywhere.
Speaker 1 (27:38):
Okay, So a tip, because I do this by myself.
Speaker 3 (27:46):
Not to do it by yourself.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
I would send you and Tucker up there every time, I
mean it's a lot easier that way,but it sounds like I send you
up there when it's cold becauseyou keep talking about how cold
it is And I never think it'sthat bad.
So apparently, yeah, i don'tlike cold.
The first hole once you drillit.
You then plug it with the woodsfile.
Then you drill the second hole.
Speaker 5 (28:07):
And then you come back.
I told you we should do that.
That makes sense.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
Yeah, that's the pro tip of the day.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
Okay, okay.
Speaker 5 (28:14):
I'm just a pro, yeah, no, and other tip, if you bring
the.
I've been in the mastercategory for two years now.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
If you bring the photographers.
Speaker 4 (28:21):
With you, you get extra light.
I know Kyle was super happyabout that, like we had the
photo light with us, like it wasgiant flashlight, and so you
could see everywhere when youwere in the dark.
Speaker 3 (28:31):
We're going between the ricks Should probably get
headlamps.
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4 (28:36):
You had one, that one time Yep.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
Yeah.
I want to come with you onetime, just to like see what
happens.
Speaker 3 (28:41):
You're not going to be able to wear that.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
Well, I could wear like.
Maybe the same shirt is likewhat you guys are wearing like
the uniforms.
Speaker 3 (28:47):
It's dirty up there.
Yeah, we could do that Kyle.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
could I go with them sometime?
Sure.
Speaker 3 (28:50):
Yeah, that sounds good.
Next time Kyle has samples onthe first floor.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
Okay, you can go with this.
Speaker 3 (28:57):
And we will let you drill, fill the bottle
everything.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
Okay, hey, i have an idea.
So we need to pick anotherbarrel, yeah Right, so let's go
get some samples.
Quite a sound We don't have toget 18.
Speaker 3 (29:10):
I can just go like curfew, you've got to get the
first four.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
I'll get the first four.
Speaker 3 (29:15):
To be in Tucker, or two big to fit in the first four
.
That's.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
Okay, okay, i thought you didn't want me to crawl up,
but I see what you're gettingat.
No, the ricks are pretty tightLike it's.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
if you think of a rick house and how structurally
you have to build it, the bottombeams or posts are just an
extra couple inches wider.
Speaker 2 (29:32):
Okay, yeah, it's tight, i can help with this And
then, okay It's been decided,then We will take you up on the
first floor.
Okay, yeah, first floor.
Anytime you let me know, i'mjust here to like make sure we
get good bourbon.
Speaker 3 (29:47):
So You thought I was gonna throw a joke in there,
didn't you?
Yeah, i was waiting to callreally.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
Yeah, no, i'm nice.
Speaker 5 (29:55):
Are you guys?
I said we both don't fit.
Speaker 4 (29:58):
I get caught up on my chest.
You can't go over things, it'sall right.
Speaker 5 (30:00):
It's tight, it's a tight fit.
Speaker 3 (30:02):
It's a tight fit.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
That's okay, that's okay.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
There's an inside joke.
I can only imagine, i can onlyimagine This is what happens
when you have a lot of drinksbeforehand with a hipster and
the other guy.
Speaker 2 (30:18):
Which one's the hipster?
I mean, look at him, thank you.
Do you think that's a hipster?
Speaker 1 (30:23):
He's not at heart, but like.
Speaker 4 (30:26):
Well, I don't even know what that means.
I'm not at heart, Jordan do.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
I look like a hipster to you.
I don't think you look like ahipster.
Thank, you See, No, i don'tthink you look like a hipster.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
I mean he does.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
I don't think hipster is the word.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
I'll think about it.
It's probably not, but like Iknow he hates that word.
Speaker 3 (30:44):
I just don't like it, and so I've.
I think I fit the bill.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
No, totally not.
That's not your style, your ageis Contemporary.
Contemporary.
That's what you're going with.
Speaker 3 (30:54):
I had all this stuff for school.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
If you're just listening to the podcast and you
don't know what Matt looks like, you should check out the video
.
That'll be fun for you.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
Yes, yeah.
Speaker 4 (31:04):
If no one said anything and you're like what
does Matt do?
He very much looks like he's anartist, like a designer or
something like that.
Speaker 3 (31:12):
Yeah, i could pass as a tattoo artist.
Speaker 2 (31:14):
Yeah, oh, 100%, yeah, but you also look like he makes
a better urban, but I wouldn'tcall him a hipster.
Speaker 4 (31:19):
No, You got a little beard Because I've gotten like.
A lot of people have called mea hipster too And I'm like I
don't think I fit that bill.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
I was just about to say Brendan, wouldn't call you a
hipster because he is a hipster.
Speaker 4 (31:29):
No, I'm not.
Speaker 1 (31:31):
And he doesn't want to.
I'm kidding.
I'm just That's like a.
I feel like it's not a realterm and everyone just gets so
triggered by it that I just calleveryone a hipster.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
I kind of wonder if we're so old now, like if people
are even saying hipstersanymore.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
Oh, there's probably a different word for it for sure
.
Speaker 3 (31:44):
Yeah, i don't know.
Did you just say because we'reso old?
Yeah, we're definitely old.
Speaker 2 (31:48):
I'm the same age as Kyle.
What are you guys?
Speaker 4 (31:51):
34?
Speaker 2 (31:51):
We're like Oh maybe I would kill to be 34.
How old are you?
Speaker 3 (31:57):
41.
41.
And you're, i am not 45.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
32.
Speaker 1 (32:03):
Regardless, we're all old Anyway.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
We're all like not 25 spring chickens anymore.
Speaker 3 (32:08):
I definitely feel old .
Speaker 1 (32:10):
There's probably social media sites I don't know
about Same.
I'm gonna get my hair cut andI'm gonna trim up some of this
gray.
Speaker 3 (32:15):
Oh, what do we call this?
Speaker 2 (32:16):
This is the good stuff though, guys.
We're drinking the good stuff.
We know it is the good stuff.
Speaker 3 (32:20):
This isn't the good stuff.
No, looks like all that, so youdon't drink it.
I don't see the problem.
Speaker 2 (32:25):
I am seriously, I thought I knew the color was a
little light but I was like Ohyeah, i smelled it.
Speaker 3 (32:31):
It doesn't look like you tried it.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
I thought it was gonna be triple crown
butterscotch, if I'm beinghonest, because it smelled so
sweet, because I just thought itwas something of ours.
Speaker 3 (32:39):
I knew what it was, And then I was like hey, candy.
Speaker 5 (32:42):
And then when I tried it.
Speaker 2 (32:43):
I was like oh, That's pretty good, that's pretty good
.
I mean it's not for me, but youknow I support you, tucker.
Speaker 4 (32:51):
I mean to each their own.
Speaker 2 (32:53):
Exactly.
Speaker 3 (32:54):
People like different things and that's okay, tucker,
i don't support you enough.
Okay, i don't, it's fine.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
The news is you're coming around to you know.
Speaker 2 (33:02):
You're coming around.
Speaker 5 (33:03):
Good products I'm getting there.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
Yeah, it takes time.
Speaker 1 (33:08):
Can we do a rapid fire?
That takes me back to whatBrendan first said of the
favorite.
Speaker 4 (33:13):
Yeah, yeah, We never answered that Because yeah, we
just completely got off topic.
Speaker 1 (33:18):
In fairness, I took us completely off topic Nice
going Kyle.
I do that, yeah, so ourfavorite what Favorite Of our?
burns that we've released.
Speaker 4 (33:27):
So month barrel, you know which brand.
Speaker 3 (33:34):
I don't, I feel like I think October we didn't put a
Rick House out.
Speaker 4 (33:44):
No, I think it was November was the first Rick
House.
Speaker 3 (33:48):
That batch at proof I really, really liked.
The shorty barrel is great.
I think this month's wheat atbarrel proof is fantastic.
I think it could be one of myfavorites.
I think that second batch ofthe regular bin was pretty damn
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good Quiz.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
which month was that I?
Speaker 2 (34:19):
know, July.
Speaker 3 (34:22):
There you go.
Speaker 5 (34:23):
Good job, tucker had noted that.
I still let Tucker, i'm busy upthere Yeah that's true.
Speaker 1 (34:28):
You were making stuff for six years from now.
Speaker 3 (34:30):
Yeah, thanks, tucker, looking into the future Way to
set up 2028.
Great work.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
You go Tucker.
Speaker 5 (34:37):
What I'm here for.
Speaker 1 (34:39):
Yeah, Tucker.
Speaker 5 (34:41):
I'm going to go with I'm going to go with Wow For the
record.
Speaker 1 (34:53):
If you say that you should find a different job, i'm
going to go with the soft red.
There you go.
Speaker 5 (34:59):
The first batch of soft red.
I had one batch Yeah.
Speaker 2 (35:03):
Breakhouse or bottle and bottom.
What did I try?
Speaker 5 (35:07):
What was the?
Speaker 2 (35:09):
Oh, wait, just now.
You think I would just have No,No that was bottle and bottom.
Speaker 3 (35:14):
That would have been the bottle and bottom.
Speaker 1 (35:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (35:17):
That's also very good , what we just tried.
Speaker 1 (35:21):
Yeah that's very good .
The May The one Patrick has nottried.
Speaker 5 (35:28):
Patrick has not tried it Jordan.
Speaker 2 (35:31):
Soon enough.
Speaker 1 (35:32):
Pee-Pee.
He has not tried it, he'll loveit.
I feel like Jordan is going tosay May-Ben.
Speaker 2 (35:36):
You know what I'm going to say.
You know I'm going to sayMay-Ben, yeah, that's fair.
Speaker 4 (35:39):
That's fair.
She talks about that a lot.
Speaker 2 (35:41):
I love me some May-Ben, but that's because I'm
loyal to the first release.
But also any Ben Raycouse, anyBen really.
Speaker 1 (35:49):
But mostly any Ben Raycouse.
Speaker 4 (35:51):
I'm going to be a big fan of.
Speaker 2 (35:53):
I don't hate your soft red.
It's just like I don't.
I'm not connected, yet I likethe kick in the face.
Speaker 1 (35:59):
You're like a PR marketing.
You got to connect.
Speaker 2 (36:03):
You got to, it's got to feel, i got to taste.
Speaker 3 (36:06):
I get it.
It's fine.
You haven't had the newestbatch, though.
Speaker 2 (36:10):
I just had some, Oh the soft red.
Speaker 3 (36:12):
Oh, I have nothing.
It was Ben.
Do you know the newest Ben?
No, the soft red.
Speaker 2 (36:17):
Oh, I just tasted it.
Speaker 3 (36:18):
Yeah, you don't think that's fantastic It is
fantastic.
Speaker 2 (36:21):
It is very good but my favorite of Like I had one
sip of it.
Speaker 3 (36:26):
You're going to need to have to.
Yeah, I need to like.
Speaker 1 (36:29):
I got a bottle.
It's not enough for me to sayit's my favorite at this point,
but it is very good.
Speaker 2 (36:33):
That's a good point, Matt.
Yes.
Speaker 1 (36:36):
It's enough for me to say it's my favorite of our
weeded.
That was really good.
I like Shorty as our one barrel.
My second favorite one barrelis the one that we did on the
podcast that no one else likedbecause it was mine, and then
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Wait, the one McCormick Lane?
Speaker 2 (36:58):
No, the one you chose on the podcast, the one I chose
on the podcast because no oneelse liked.
Speaker 1 (37:01):
Yeah, that was my fifth.
Speaker 3 (37:02):
That was in me and Tucker's top five.
Speaker 1 (37:04):
Yeah, but I mean it could have been my number two.
Speaker 3 (37:06):
I don't remember which barrels were which.
Speaker 2 (37:07):
I mean it didn't suck , but it wasn't.
Speaker 1 (37:09):
It was my number one and it would have sold out right
away, but we just Too bad,that's fine.
Speaker 2 (37:16):
That's fine When I go up and pick the samples with
Matt and Tucker, do we?
Speaker 4 (37:20):
know if that ever got sold off to an account or
anything, or if that's still upthere.
Speaker 1 (37:23):
I don't know how we're going to remember.
Speaker 4 (37:25):
I was going to say we maybe should look at that.
Speaker 2 (37:28):
Yeah, how do you even remember at this point, there
was a lot of bourbon flow inthat day.
Speaker 1 (37:33):
I think I have the card that says which ones we
sampled.
Speaker 4 (37:36):
Well, so we did say it on the podcast, so we can
just go back and listen to it,that's true.
Speaker 3 (37:40):
Yeah, actually We'll just go back to the text
messages and figure it out.
Speaker 2 (37:43):
Yeah, Yeah, or further our records.
Speaker 1 (37:46):
Yeah, it's funny to think that when we were putting
together the distillery, welooked at TTB records and actual
documents And if people everlook back at what we're doing,
they're going to be listening tothis And I feel bad for them.
Like, this is the way that youfigure out how to make bourbon.
That's not fun at all.
Speaker 2 (38:08):
I mean I think it's fun, kyle.
I think you're kind of beingnegative.
I think that's super fun.
I mean I'm always negative.
Speaker 1 (38:16):
I'm always negative, but I enjoyed today because
these two had so much likeanxiety about this that it was
like I talk on the podcastmultiple times about how I have
anxiety about a release or whatwe're doing or talking to people
in general.
And today it was good because,like I'm the seasoned vet of the
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podcast and then these two arejust joining and they have no
idea.
Speaker 2 (38:42):
It's not so bad right .
Speaker 3 (38:44):
I don't typically have anxiety about anything I do
Super laid back, but I feltlike I needed to eat Xanax today
.
That's the way I felt And then,once I found out that we're
going to be on video, I was likewhat the hell happened here?
I don't want this.
Speaker 2 (39:02):
Yeah, you thought you just made whiskey for a living.
Yeah, it's all now It's beengood.
It's been good.
Well, except for that, That'sthe worst thing.
Speaker 5 (39:12):
I've drank all day Anyone who's not watching the
video?
Speaker 1 (39:16):
again, we're pointing at Tucker's favorite sample
that none of us drank except forTucker.
Speaker 3 (39:21):
It's syrupy, it's pretty light, it's super sweet.
Speaker 5 (39:25):
It's onto something We can work on it.
Speaker 2 (39:26):
Yeah, we'll see what we can do with that.
It needs to be onto a drain,it's where it needs to be on
sometime, whatever That stuff.
Speaker 5 (39:34):
It's the same.
Speaker 1 (39:36):
But May is good, So yeah.
Speaker 2 (39:37):
I'm excited about that.
Yeah, well guys, what did Imiss?
Is that it?
Yeah, all right.
Speaker 4 (39:46):
Cheers.
Speaker 1 (39:46):
I'm sure I can make one of them all day, but yes,
that's it, cheers.
Speaker 2 (39:50):
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (40:21):
Thank you.
They came on, so I wanted to get something special.
Speaker 3 (00:10):
That's figured it out .
I'm gonna let Tucker tell uswhat this is cuz, i think he
knows exactly or if he doesn't.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
If you don't, you should be fired.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
I think I know what it is.
Welcome to holiday happy hour.
We are back at the holidaydistillery with some very
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special guests today that wehave yet to hear from on holiday
happy hour.
So we're gonna talk productiontoday.
We're gonna really talk aboutwhat the life is a day in the
life of making bourbon.
But before we get there,brendan, what are we drinking?
Speaker 4 (01:08):
so today we are drinking a 1856 old-fashioned.
So it's our classicold-fashioned, but we put a
little twist on this.
Today we're drinking it withBen holiday Rick house proof.
So it is two ounces and aquarter of Ben holiday Rick
house proof, and then half ounceof our gums syrup and then
three dashes orange bitters,three dash, three dashes of
(01:29):
Angostura bitters, and you stirthat up and garnish with an
orange peel delicious, i meanit's very good.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
It's not a twist for me, because that's the way I
always drink it like.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
I always get Rick house, that's my go-to order.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
Yeah, that makes me probably an alcoholic.
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
But no, kyle, you just like the full flavor, i do,
that's what it's.
It's, it's really good.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
I enjoyed this.
Speaker 4 (01:51):
This is my, for sure, my go-to yeah, so I mean, we
figured we had the still houseguys here.
We got to do something special.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
So yeah, speaking of the still house guys, so we have
master over here.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
Yes, yeah, you know he's a regular.
That was really nice of youthey are very special you know
we actually like talk about youguys, all the time you do this
without them we could not.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
That is so true, all you guys.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
I, you know I do appreciate them.
I also like to make fun of them.
They, you know, make fun of meback.
They're gonna try to be nicetoday we'll see gonna try to get
them to make fun of me, but no,they're not, it's gonna happen,
it's gonna happen, it's gonnahappen.
There's a lot of drinks on thetable there are plenty of time?
Speaker 2 (02:33):
yep, just a matter of time not even just drinks,
delicious drinks sorry and sorry, but like a surprise a surprise
that no one knows about herefor you.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
I yeah yeah, i poured it.
I have this bad habit so Ialways interrupt Jordan.
So I feel like there wasprobably questions coming and I
just interrupted the wholepodcast.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
So he does this every time you know, and it was
actually more, not so muchquestions, but I wanted to
properly introduce you both.
So here on the far end we haveMatt and we have Tucker, and
Matt and Tucker work veryclosely with Kyle and the still
house, so they are the onesdoing the work right.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
Kyle, like making the distillate yeah, i often get
asked what I actually do, andit's not make bourbon.
These two definitely arecoordinating and doing all of
that and I just go out into themarket, so they, they have the
the real job for sure masterdistiller is deceiving it's not
(03:35):
what it sounds like yep, yep,mm-hmm, yeah, so
Speaker 3 (03:39):
he does a lot he does he does do a few things, but
but yeah, i can't really saythat he works closely with us in
the still house when we see him, like once a day.
Okay, that's twice, twice on agood day, okay.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
So you don't work closely with Kyle, but you do
make some bourbon.
So, with that being said, whatdoes your day-to-day look like
when you get here?
what time do you get here?
Speaker 5 (04:01):
in the morning probably before I start this,
because it's gonna, i mean Iusually hear about ten after
seven okay eight.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
He's supposed to get here at seven, as I think where
Tucker's going with that okaybut you know people, you know we
all have our own schedules,right.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
Yeah, so when you get here at ten after seven, then
what happens?
Speaker 3 (04:26):
I mean, if you want the honest, it's.
I sit down in the quads a hutfor about 15 minutes and I talk
with Bob and Ryan prepares forthe day.
I get the day started for theday yeah, i go create batch
paperwork and bring it up toTucker okay, okay so I'll give
the quick intro just to kind ofgive the precursor.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
So Matt is, he's the supervisor in the still house,
so he does kind of coordinatesall of where everyone's going
throughout the day, as well asmaintaining all our records with
the TTV.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
So in order very important very important.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
Yeah, you know that the government they want to make
sure they know how much alcoholis being produced, make sure
that we're paying taxes on itand complying with all
regulations, and so that's kindof what Matt does on a daily
basis.
Tucker is in the still houseand so he's the one starting up
the column, starting up theboiler, running the column,
making every cook and kind ofmanaging everything that happens
(05:21):
in that building.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
So there's the intro, the bourbon.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
Tucker is actually making the berm.
That's kind of like a mini mewhere he's not really doing much
to be fair used to.
Speaker 5 (05:30):
Matt started the whole process.
He was here from the beginning.
Okay, so I can't take all thecredit.
Matt started everything.
I don't even have any of mystuff.
I'm waiting for that soonenough, i'm sure.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
Two years, okay, okay three years.
Speaker 5 (05:46):
Three years, yeah, two and a half three yeah, so
how long?
Speaker 2 (05:49):
when did both of you start working here?
how long have you been here?
Speaker 3 (05:53):
I started in the bottle shop in 2011 what were
you doing in the bottle shop?
working on the line, didmaintenance for a little while
okay, yeah whatever justwhatever they were.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
Nice Tucker, what about you?
Speaker 5 (06:10):
so I started in the bottle shop in 2019 and then I
came over to the still house.
It would have been 2020.
It was on superglue wow so likethat was, like Man, do I really
want to work here?
Don't want to go watch theseason.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
Man, that's a tough choice.
Speaker 5 (06:28):
It's a tough decision , and that's the where I'm at.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
Wow, well, you persevered.
You got a Super Bowl win, soYeah wow, that's a memorable
first day, though, if I couldsay so myself.
So you started on a Sunday,like, is that a thing?
Speaker 5 (06:43):
Yeah, because we were running Sundays then.
Ok, so that's just how thepaper era started, and we
started on a Sunday.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
OK.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
We had two different Kind of days, two different bids
open at that time Tuesdaythrough Saturday, and then
Sunday through Thursday.
And so, yeah, when you firststarted in there, that was the
route it was.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
OK.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
Run seven days a week , Split it and then, when
everyone was here overlap, Youhad everyone, the entire crew
available to rack barrels, fillbarrels, dump barrels, do all
the actual moving of product.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
Wow, I didn't know that about you.
I was just telling them beforewe started recording that
they'll wave to me and be nicewhen I see them out on the road
or whatever, but I don't reallyknow them.
They're too cool to hang outwith me because they're too busy
making bourbon and I'm too busyrecording podcasts with the Pod
Squad, I guess, or I don't know.
whatever it is, we do.
We don't get a lot of invites,so To be clear, unfair when I
(07:44):
did invite you Shut up, shut upYou were not happy about it and
I sent you a very nice email andthen you just responded to Kyle
and you said no.
Speaker 5 (07:55):
But you didn't send it to me.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
I took it back.
I thought it was a good idea.
Yeah, Tucker has this habit oftyping on his phone what he
wants to reply, screenshottingit and then sending it to Matt
and I to see the his version ofthe response.
And so, yes, he originallyreplied just no to Jordan on if
he was available to do this.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
I think it was.
I think there was also.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
I was actually recording a podcast.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
Was it way worse?
I think there's probably.
Please share.
Speaker 5 (08:24):
There wasn't no screenshot there, so Probably
some profanity involved, Nope.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
Well, in their defense, though, whenever I
asked them to do this, I saidwhat did I say?
Casual conversation, somebourbon, some drinks, no video.
Speaker 5 (08:39):
Why not?
That was a lie.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
I really didn't know.
Brendan surprised me with this,you knew, but I didn't know.
Speaker 4 (08:45):
Kyle knew.
I think Kyle was one of theonly ones that knew.
I knew last Friday.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
But we scheduled this what like a week ago.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
Yeah, i don't know.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
Anyway, a week ago, So you guys are troopers.
I appreciate you.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
But I would have told them before they found out
today they wouldn't have wornmatching shirts.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
And I think that's very nice.
Speaker 3 (09:04):
It's beautiful.
That's what we call it.
It's a team building.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
Team building.
I like that.
That's how you make the bestbourbon.
Speaker 5 (09:11):
I'm glad Kyle didn't tell me, because then my whole
vacation would have been ruined.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
Your vacation?
did you just get back fromvacation?
Where'd you go?
You do look a little tan.
Speaker 5 (09:23):
I'm burnt We went to Cancun.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
Show us that burn.
I'm wearing a shirt.
Very nice, i want to do that.
It's his first time on HolidayHappy Hour.
He's ancient into it.
Speaker 5 (09:32):
I want to come back, guys, i don't.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
Yes, well, glad I couldn't make you too anxious.
Well, yeah, so you make thebourbon.
What else do you get to do?
You get to taste the bourbon?
We were just talking about thata little bit.
Speaker 5 (09:45):
Yeah, that is one of the perks.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
Is that the perk of the job?
Speaker 1 (09:49):
So what happened last time you two were affiliated
with the Holiday Happy Hourpodcast?
Speaker 2 (09:55):
Good question.
Speaker 5 (09:58):
That was a deal.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
We were drunk at 8.30 in the morning.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
Pretty much.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
I mean, that was the just note.
I think, we had what 20?
Speaker 5 (10:10):
different samples 18 or 19 barrels we sampled.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
So yeah, how does that work?
Because at that point do youeven know, this is a good one,
You just like they're all good.
Speaker 5 (10:22):
I mean, after thousands of them, they all
start tasting For context Kyleneeded us to pull the samples
for your guys' podcast.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
Right for the barrel pick.
Speaker 5 (10:32):
So it was still winter, then It was cold And we
went and pulled them.
And you can't really get a goodfeel of the barrels when it's
cold out, so we pulled them,pulled the samples, brought them
back down here, let them sitovernight.
I came back the next morning.
Let's, let's do it in themorning, get it over with.
(10:52):
Well, like halfway through, i'mlike I'm there, like this is.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
This is Getting out of control out of control, but
your boss asked you to do it.
We did it great.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
We, we, we powered through it.
Speaker 5 (11:12):
And I went back up there and worked and I mean I.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
Like I do that often to you guys where I make you go
pull samples, That was the firsttime where it was unique of you
.
Know you have to pull and tasteand select.
That's true because Mick wantedit to be completely blind for
me going into the podcast aswell.
So he did a great job.
I appreciated that.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
Well, it was fun.
Tucker's favorite was the firstone out.
Speaker 5 (11:40):
That's true.
I mean, I don't think I wasdisappointed.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
I mean he tried.
Yeah it's always good to haveone where it's like an easy out,
like I know that's not the onethat I like.
Like, yeah, that was helpful.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
So, yes, if anybody did listen to that episode, it
also got a little out of control, but for all the samples that
were pulled, there was anunanimous choice Between four of
us, except for Kyle was theoutlier.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
I was the grand one ended up choosing that one.
Which one did I pick?
I think I picked the same oneas Matt.
Speaker 4 (12:17):
Because I, when I talked to him later that day,
and I think it was a sample thatMatt was his favorite.
Speaker 5 (12:21):
That's one that was my favorite.
No, it was the second.
Yeah, Yeah but.
Speaker 4 (12:26):
But it's also exciting because that is sold
out now, so obviously it was agreat pick, yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
I mean, it was fine.
I should have kept mine as thenext pick and let people you
know truly decide which one wasbetter and like this, was Kyle's
pick.
Like By Kyle's pick, like Ifeel like that could be the next
.
Speaker 4 (12:48):
Yeah, you keep talking about that.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
Okay both do have very nice beards, by the way.
Yeah is that a requirement tobe able to, like, make good
bourbon Kyle?
Speaker 1 (12:58):
You got like a beard.
No, I just don't shave all theway I just I'm lazy.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
A lot of work, i hear .
Speaker 1 (13:05):
I trim it up, but then I don't do that sometimes.
Speaker 5 (13:08):
So you can tell when I was like got something
important going on, cuz I'm yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
That's true, that's a hundred percent true.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
It's all town.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
So I brought something.
I'm gonna just jump in withthis.
I brought something special totaste today and I haven't let
anyone know what it is, so Iwanted to do it live.
Well, i guess not really live,the podcast doesn't air live,
but whatever you know, you knowwanted to do this on camera, so
Matt's been wondering why it'sso light And I just wanted to.
(13:38):
You know they they came on, soI wanted to get something
special.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
Figured it out.
This is what I know, what it is.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
I'm gonna let Tucker tell us what this is cuz, i
think he knows exactly, or if hedoesn't, you don't, you should
be fired.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
I think I know what it is Cool guys.
Speaker 5 (14:05):
I'm just my favorite already.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
There we go.
I think he's caught on Good.
Yep, go ahead, tucker, i'm noteven gonna.
I should try it.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
So that's, that's what you were raving about
forever, huh, so there is a.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
There is a certain flavored whiskey that when
Tucker first started, when hefirst started, it's like okay,
man time out.
Speaker 5 (14:38):
Okay, I'm out.
We'll let you describe now.
So when I started In the stillhouse, I didn't know Nothing
about whiskey, bourbon.
I had no idea aboutdistillation.
It's pretty obvious Andwhatever.
That's fine.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
I've grown yes, Yeah so.
Speaker 5 (14:58):
I started trying stuff and Think I know where
Kyle's going with this.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
Mm-hmm.
Yeah, i mean, you can keeptelling the story and there was
a.
Speaker 5 (15:07):
There was a certain Bourbon that was out there.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
Oh, it's not obviously One, whatever so we
always ask, like you know,what's your favorite bourbon,
what do you drink, what it, whatit like?
Matt and I have actual bourbonsthat we had drank.
We didn't have our product outyet And so we knew, we knew the
market.
We asked Tucker the samequestion and he brings up a
black cherry flavored Whiskeyand that was his latest, but so
(15:34):
that's what we just drank.
Was Was his favorite bourbon.
Speaker 3 (15:39):
Several years ago, I mean, I mean, you know that's
the first time I've ever hadthat Yep, i've never had that
either, i think I.
It is something that's.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
That's good stuff to each their own time if you do
you.
Speaker 5 (15:52):
I like that we got a hit every category, every.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
Yes, every feel like this is like for high school
kids Tucker.
Speaker 5 (16:00):
Well, I schoolers don't drink.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
It's a legal Matt.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
But doesn't mean, they don't do it for clarity.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
It's also not our product but yeah.
That's your special surprise.
So they're like everyone wasexpecting.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
I am something different, wildly disliked.
Speaker 5 (16:20):
I know.
I I think we should dive alittle deeper into that.
Speaker 4 (16:28):
So Kyle texted me earlier and he's like I have
this idea, should I do it?
I'm like, oh yes, you shouldabsolutely do it.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
I mean, I just didn't know like if that was
appropriate.
It's trying to be like nice tothem like.
Seriously.
Speaker 3 (16:44):
That was did you just drink it out of a glass?
No, I'm being serious.
Did you mix?
Speaker 5 (16:50):
it.
That's not bad.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
Yeah, seriously, how did you drink?
Speaker 5 (16:54):
it.
I think we can work on that.
Yeah, yeah, i'm sure thequestion How did you drink?
Speaker 4 (16:59):
it.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
How was that?
like I don't hate it, no, butlike back in the day when that
was your favorite thing.
Oh, what was the thoughtprocess going through your head?
Speaker 5 (17:10):
Not much Like when you looked up in the cabin.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
You seen that bottle sitting there.
You're like, hmm, so I'm gonnagrab a glass and some ice.
And then what else did you?
Speaker 5 (17:19):
put in, i was at a wedding when I tried that, so I
was already a couple beers deep.
Speaker 3 (17:25):
So like anything tasted, alright, you know yeah
so I you know So these people,that you're getting married at
bad taste also.
Speaker 5 (17:32):
Well, maybe yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
They just didn't know .
I mean, it's a wedding like yougotta have, you gotta have.
Speaker 5 (17:40):
I'm gonna try to get there.
You know, relax, yeah, but okay, so that's just that's why
we're drinking it today.
Speaker 3 (17:45):
We were nervous, now relax.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
That was the thought process there.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
You know you're ready .
You're gonna want to come back.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
I'm cherry the cherry whiskey.
Okay, but I still need to.
I need to know more.
Okay, so you're at a wedding.
That's.
That's Excusable.
Like you drink what you have ata wedding, like that's just the
option.
What makes you go into theliquor store and buy it again,
and then how do you drink itafter that?
Are you taking shots?
Are you putting it on on therocks, like what's what's going
through your head, i'm straightstraight.
Speaker 5 (18:14):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (18:18):
That's hardcore.
Speaker 5 (18:19):
I actually got My brother and my mom drunk off of
it too.
Speaker 3 (18:24):
You feel good about yourself?
I do.
I felt really good about thatnight because my mom Hasn't done
that in years.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
Well, she probably had a really good time.
She did good for her.
What's your mom's name?
bet, love that for Beth Nr.
Some crappy whiskey.
She probably would does Bethlike bourbon?
now, probably not.
Yeah, i get it.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
I mean my parents don't drink it either.
It's fine.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
Yeah, you know, it's a, It's an acquired taste.
Speaker 5 (18:52):
It's time, since we're on that.
I got a controversial statement.
So what are we got?
Speaker 1 (19:00):
Tucker is all conspiracy theories all the time
in the still house.
Speaker 5 (19:03):
I'm a little worried about where this is going.
Speaker 3 (19:05):
No, this isn't so going dinosaurs or aliens, which
one we go with today?
Speaker 5 (19:09):
It's, that's not it.
Okay, anyways, when we had aOur bourbon class, we had a our
soft red, and I haven't had ityet.
And I'm not a wheat guy, i'mnot a weeded bourbon guy.
Speaker 4 (19:25):
Not at all.
Speaker 5 (19:27):
So I tried it during our class and I loved it, and
this is going to becontroversial, but I put it
above the shorty.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
Really.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
When you say bourbon class, was that like the Mike
Beach bourbon class?
Okay, okay.
Speaker 4 (19:46):
Okay, so let's lead into this, because we've been
asking everyone this What isyour favorite expression of our
bourbon So month?
you know, ben Holiday versusSofred versus the one barrels,
like, do you have a favoritemonth or you know one barrel
that we've done?
But that is really interestingthat you would put that above
shorty, cause I feel like all ofus, like, have always put
(20:09):
shorty above anything else.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
I mean, is it interesting?
This is the guy that literallyjust told us he liked a black
cherry flavored whiskey.
Speaker 4 (20:15):
That's totally fair.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
I'm also learning Like this is just the
introduction, like he needs tobuild up to it.
Like you know, five years fromnow he'll have a different I
really like the soft drink.
Speaker 5 (20:27):
That's good.
Speaker 3 (20:28):
It's growing on me Yeah.
Speaker 4 (20:30):
This may batch that you have right now.
This is incredible.
This is really, really good.
Oh, what was it?
This plus, yeah, the one that'sempty of Matt's.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
I need to make sure that I put this officially on
air, because Patrick's not here.
He's in Ireland right now Andwe dumped the barrels for the
May bottling of holiday soft redon Tuesday.
Is it Tuesday yesterday?
And so we have the the the RickHouse version 119.
(21:04):
What was it?
five And it's?
we got to try it.
He did not.
This is definitely going tomake him upset and I just need
to make sure that it'sdocumented.
On holiday Happy hour.
Speaker 5 (21:16):
It was really good.
Speaker 3 (21:17):
He's not going to be happy about that I've had three
or four glasses of it.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
It is, it is really good.
Speaker 4 (21:24):
Yeah, I need to text him right now because he's on
his flight from Ireland to theUK right now And so when he
lands he's not going to be happywhen he sees the text.
Speaker 5 (21:32):
So it should be really happy because it's really
good, Right See?
Speaker 2 (21:36):
let's look at the bright side.
But you're right, kyle, he'sgoing to be pissed Yeah it's
going to be.
Speaker 4 (21:41):
I can't wait.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
I love it.
Speaker 3 (21:43):
Well, you know maybe we can all FaceTime him after we
could know this.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
Yeah, make him feel a little better.
Speaker 4 (21:49):
Let him know how good it is?
Speaker 2 (21:50):
Yeah, i think that's a great idea.
Speaker 4 (21:53):
Actually, we should do that Yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
Yeah, i agree I agree , yeah, i just finished my glass
of that and it's it's just,it's money.
Speaker 4 (22:00):
Yeah, No, that I was really surprised, Like cause we
did So um Kyle, I and Amanda.
Actually was it last week ortwo weeks ago?
No, it was last week, It waslast week Yeah.
We went and pulled some barrelsamples and uh, and there was
some that we were just likequestioning, like is that going
to be really good?
And then you know, eventuallythey got blended A lot of those
that we pulled into this Maybatch for soft red.
(22:20):
And like I'm very surprised,like how could that turn out?
Speaker 5 (22:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
And and that's, that's still uh.
You know I have people talkingin the background over there.
I'm sure that picked up on themic.
I hope it, but not uh.
Man, i hope it but not uh.
Matt and Tucker were whisperingand judging me.
Uh, I was judging Tucker onOkay.
Speaker 3 (22:43):
Yeah, uh, still back on that, yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
Um, so, uh, I completely lost my train of
thought.
Yes, The barrels that we pulled, uh, they were, they were good,
yeah, um, but they again.
It was one of those thingswhere you pulled the sample and
it's just like you're not ahundred percent certain and that
that happens.
Um, but you know that they'regoing to be a part of the larger
(23:07):
picture.
And so that was what what theones that we pulled were.
Speaker 4 (23:10):
So I know you talked about this and I want to ask
Matt and Tucker what theirthoughts are on this too.
Like cause we were talkingabout like we pulled the samples
, like we're kind of in spring,so it's kind of going through
the transition from winter tosummer where you know it's
coming in and out of that barrelright now And we noticed a lot
of the barrels like had some oddflavor or like some just
different notes that come upmore than other times.
And you know, kyle, you talkedabout like you thought maybe
(23:33):
that was just due to the springseason as the changing over of
that.
Do you guys ever notice whenyou're sampling barrels,
anything like that, like duringlike spring or fall?
Speaker 3 (23:44):
I know I think a lot of times when we go sample the
barrels it's been cold up thereand there's been barrels up
there that we've sampled andthought we liked, until they
came down here and warmed up andthen we hated them.
And there's been barrels upthere that we've hated bringing
(24:06):
down here and they warmed up andwe loved them.
It's hard to tell when you'reup there in the warehouse you
got dirty hands Yeah.
Speaker 5 (24:13):
Matt's spilling bourbon everywhere.
Speaker 3 (24:15):
He complains the whole time.
Speaker 5 (24:16):
So When we did the R1 barrel pick, there was one
barrel on the.
They didn't pick one you liked,No, but the one barrel we
thought we tried up there was onthe first floor.
That was gross And it was Wellwe liked it.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
Kyle, your barrel was gross It was gross, but then it
was good down here.
I feel like we need to do likeyou know, pr marketing training?
Speaker 1 (24:46):
No, these guys just they use any words, call it like
they see it Well it's thetemperatures It throws it off a
little bit.
Speaker 5 (24:53):
And when we picked our I don't know how many
barrels we picked for ourselection, what was it?
18, but we picked five out ofthose 18.
There was one where we reallyreally liked And it was.
We liked it up in the RickHouse Like we really really
liked it.
And when we got down here we'relike, okay, well, that's not
(25:14):
our favorite anymore, this one'sgoing to be our favorite.
And then we just left it outbecause we're like, well, it
Just from temperatures itchanges a little bit.
So, you know, maybe it needsmore time to mature, or you know
whatever, but it throws it offwhen it's cold, and that's
something that I didn't know.
(25:35):
Yeah, if we were up there andwe were picking barrels for our
selection, i would win with thatone.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
So when you're up there and you drill in, you take
a sip then and then you bringit down and let it sit.
Speaker 5 (25:50):
Typically what happens is Matt will drill a
hole in and we have to use amanual drill because Kyle won't
let us use anything else.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
I don't want sparking tools up there.
Also, the manual drill lookscooler and I mean that's what
I'm using, so it's not like I'mexpecting you to do something
else.
Speaker 3 (26:07):
Tucker likes to throw the word we around.
Speaker 5 (26:10):
Yeah, i don't, he doesn't drill never.
Yeah, that's because he holds abottle, because the third rex
is really high and I'm reallyshort and he's really tall, so,
like it's just, It works.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
It's a partnership, matt.
Speaker 3 (26:20):
And he's.
He drilled one time and he bentthe drill bit.
That's a good sense.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
That was you.
I'm kidding, i actually didn'tknow.
Speaker 3 (26:27):
Kyle's drill.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
Kyle didn't break one , he dropped, i dropped mine
from the fifth floor and it felldown and now mine is bent and I
need to get a new one becauseit doesn't work very well.
Speaker 5 (26:37):
But the typical what happens is Matt will drill a
hole with our manual drill and Iwill be ready with a bottle.
It's a real beaver, yeah, and Iwill be ready with a bottle,
and what'll happen is he'll pullthat drill bit out and nothing
will happen.
Speaker 3 (26:54):
And.
Speaker 5 (26:54):
I go.
okay, here we go again, So youhave to.
Speaker 1 (26:56):
It's only when it's cold though, and when it's cold,
it's cold Yeah.
Speaker 5 (27:00):
So because the pressure is in the barrels, they
fluctuate, they're stupid Andit's frustrating.
Speaker 3 (27:05):
So you have to drill a second hole up top so it can
vent.
Speaker 1 (27:08):
I mean, it's kind of like when you take a water
bottle and you have a sip at,you know, in the airport, and
then you close it and then yougo on the plane and you fly up
to altitude and it sucks in.
That's what the barrels thatthey're sampling are.
And so then they have to drillthe second breather hole.
Speaker 5 (27:27):
That's the worst.
And then when he gets thatsecond hole drilled, then it's
just fires out of there and I'mnot ready, i don't know what's
going on.
It's dark, i got a flashlightAnd it just gets everywhere.
Speaker 1 (27:38):
Okay, So a tip, because I do this by myself.
Speaker 3 (27:46):
Not to do it by yourself.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
I would send you and Tucker up there every time, I
mean it's a lot easier that way,but it sounds like I send you
up there when it's cold becauseyou keep talking about how cold
it is And I never think it'sthat bad.
So apparently, yeah, i don'tlike cold.
The first hole once you drillit.
You then plug it with the woodsfile.
Then you drill the second hole.
Speaker 5 (28:07):
And then you come back.
I told you we should do that.
That makes sense.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
Yeah, that's the pro tip of the day.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
Okay, okay.
Speaker 5 (28:14):
I'm just a pro, yeah, no, and other tip, if you bring
the.
I've been in the mastercategory for two years now.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
If you bring the photographers.
Speaker 4 (28:21):
With you, you get extra light.
I know Kyle was super happyabout that, like we had the
photo light with us, like it wasgiant flashlight, and so you
could see everywhere when youwere in the dark.
Speaker 3 (28:31):
We're going between the ricks Should probably get
headlamps.
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4 (28:36):
You had one, that one time Yep.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
Yeah.
I want to come with you onetime, just to like see what
happens.
Speaker 3 (28:41):
You're not going to be able to wear that.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
Well, I could wear like.
Maybe the same shirt is likewhat you guys are wearing like
the uniforms.
Speaker 3 (28:47):
It's dirty up there.
Yeah, we could do that Kyle.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
could I go with them sometime?
Sure.
Speaker 3 (28:50):
Yeah, that sounds good.
Next time Kyle has samples onthe first floor.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
Okay, you can go with this.
Speaker 3 (28:57):
And we will let you drill, fill the bottle
everything.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
Okay, hey, i have an idea.
So we need to pick anotherbarrel, yeah Right, so let's go
get some samples.
Quite a sound We don't have toget 18.
Speaker 3 (29:10):
I can just go like curfew, you've got to get the
first four.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
I'll get the first four.
Speaker 3 (29:15):
To be in Tucker, or two big to fit in the first four
.
That's.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
Okay, okay, i thought you didn't want me to crawl up,
but I see what you're gettingat.
No, the ricks are pretty tightLike it's.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
if you think of a rick house and how structurally
you have to build it, the bottombeams or posts are just an
extra couple inches wider.
Speaker 2 (29:32):
Okay, yeah, it's tight, i can help with this And
then, okay It's been decided,then We will take you up on the
first floor.
Okay, yeah, first floor.
Anytime you let me know, i'mjust here to like make sure we
get good bourbon.
Speaker 3 (29:47):
So You thought I was gonna throw a joke in there,
didn't you?
Yeah, i was waiting to callreally.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
Yeah, no, i'm nice.
Speaker 5 (29:55):
Are you guys?
I said we both don't fit.
Speaker 4 (29:58):
I get caught up on my chest.
You can't go over things, it'sall right.
Speaker 5 (30:00):
It's tight, it's a tight fit.
Speaker 3 (30:02):
It's a tight fit.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
That's okay, that's okay.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
There's an inside joke.
I can only imagine, i can onlyimagine This is what happens
when you have a lot of drinksbeforehand with a hipster and
the other guy.
Speaker 2 (30:18):
Which one's the hipster?
I mean, look at him, thank you.
Do you think that's a hipster?
Speaker 1 (30:23):
He's not at heart, but like.
Speaker 4 (30:26):
Well, I don't even know what that means.
I'm not at heart, Jordan do.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
I look like a hipster to you.
I don't think you look like ahipster.
Thank, you See, No, i don'tthink you look like a hipster.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
I mean he does.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
I don't think hipster is the word.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
I'll think about it.
It's probably not, but like Iknow he hates that word.
Speaker 3 (30:44):
I just don't like it, and so I've.
I think I fit the bill.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
No, totally not.
That's not your style, your ageis Contemporary.
Contemporary.
That's what you're going with.
Speaker 3 (30:54):
I had all this stuff for school.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
If you're just listening to the podcast and you
don't know what Matt looks like, you should check out the video
.
That'll be fun for you.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
Yes, yeah.
Speaker 4 (31:04):
If no one said anything and you're like what
does Matt do?
He very much looks like he's anartist, like a designer or
something like that.
Speaker 3 (31:12):
Yeah, i could pass as a tattoo artist.
Speaker 2 (31:14):
Yeah, oh, 100%, yeah, but you also look like he makes
a better urban, but I wouldn'tcall him a hipster.
Speaker 4 (31:19):
No, You got a little beard Because I've gotten like.
A lot of people have called mea hipster too And I'm like I
don't think I fit that bill.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
I was just about to say Brendan, wouldn't call you a
hipster because he is a hipster.
Speaker 4 (31:29):
No, I'm not.
Speaker 1 (31:31):
And he doesn't want to.
I'm kidding.
I'm just That's like a.
I feel like it's not a realterm and everyone just gets so
triggered by it that I just calleveryone a hipster.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
I kind of wonder if we're so old now, like if people
are even saying hipstersanymore.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
Oh, there's probably a different word for it for sure
.
Speaker 3 (31:44):
Yeah, i don't know.
Did you just say because we'reso old?
Yeah, we're definitely old.
Speaker 2 (31:48):
I'm the same age as Kyle.
What are you guys?
Speaker 4 (31:51):
34?
Speaker 2 (31:51):
We're like Oh maybe I would kill to be 34.
How old are you?
Speaker 3 (31:57):
41.
41.
And you're, i am not 45.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
32.
Speaker 1 (32:03):
Regardless, we're all old Anyway.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
We're all like not 25 spring chickens anymore.
Speaker 3 (32:08):
I definitely feel old .
Speaker 1 (32:10):
There's probably social media sites I don't know
about Same.
I'm gonna get my hair cut andI'm gonna trim up some of this
gray.
Speaker 3 (32:15):
Oh, what do we call this?
Speaker 2 (32:16):
This is the good stuff though, guys.
We're drinking the good stuff.
We know it is the good stuff.
Speaker 3 (32:20):
This isn't the good stuff.
No, looks like all that, so youdon't drink it.
I don't see the problem.
Speaker 2 (32:25):
I am seriously, I thought I knew the color was a
little light but I was like Ohyeah, i smelled it.
Speaker 3 (32:31):
It doesn't look like you tried it.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
I thought it was gonna be triple crown
butterscotch, if I'm beinghonest, because it smelled so
sweet, because I just thought itwas something of ours.
Speaker 3 (32:39):
I knew what it was, And then I was like hey, candy.
Speaker 5 (32:42):
And then when I tried it.
Speaker 2 (32:43):
I was like oh, That's pretty good, that's pretty good
.
I mean it's not for me, but youknow I support you, tucker.
Speaker 4 (32:51):
I mean to each their own.
Speaker 2 (32:53):
Exactly.
Speaker 3 (32:54):
People like different things and that's okay, tucker,
i don't support you enough.
Okay, i don't, it's fine.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
The news is you're coming around to you know.
Speaker 2 (33:02):
You're coming around.
Speaker 5 (33:03):
Good products I'm getting there.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
Yeah, it takes time.
Speaker 1 (33:08):
Can we do a rapid fire?
That takes me back to whatBrendan first said of the
favorite.
Speaker 4 (33:13):
Yeah, yeah, We never answered that Because yeah, we
just completely got off topic.
Speaker 1 (33:18):
In fairness, I took us completely off topic Nice
going Kyle.
I do that, yeah, so ourfavorite what Favorite Of our?
burns that we've released.
Speaker 4 (33:27):
So month barrel, you know which brand.
Speaker 3 (33:34):
I don't, I feel like I think October we didn't put a
Rick House out.
Speaker 4 (33:44):
No, I think it was November was the first Rick
House.
Speaker 3 (33:48):
That batch at proof I really, really liked.
The shorty barrel is great.
I think this month's wheat atbarrel proof is fantastic.
I think it could be one of myfavorites.
I think that second batch ofthe regular bin was pretty damn
(34:15):
good Quiz.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
which month was that I?
Speaker 2 (34:19):
know, July.
Speaker 3 (34:22):
There you go.
Speaker 5 (34:23):
Good job, tucker had noted that.
I still let Tucker, i'm busy upthere Yeah that's true.
Speaker 1 (34:28):
You were making stuff for six years from now.
Speaker 3 (34:30):
Yeah, thanks, tucker, looking into the future Way to
set up 2028.
Great work.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
You go Tucker.
Speaker 5 (34:37):
What I'm here for.
Speaker 1 (34:39):
Yeah, Tucker.
Speaker 5 (34:41):
I'm going to go with I'm going to go with Wow For the
record.
Speaker 1 (34:53):
If you say that you should find a different job, i'm
going to go with the soft red.
There you go.
Speaker 5 (34:59):
The first batch of soft red.
I had one batch Yeah.
Speaker 2 (35:03):
Breakhouse or bottle and bottom.
What did I try?
Speaker 5 (35:07):
What was the?
Speaker 2 (35:09):
Oh, wait, just now.
You think I would just have No,No that was bottle and bottom.
Speaker 3 (35:14):
That would have been the bottle and bottom.
Speaker 1 (35:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (35:17):
That's also very good , what we just tried.
Speaker 1 (35:21):
Yeah that's very good .
The May The one Patrick has nottried.
Speaker 5 (35:28):
Patrick has not tried it Jordan.
Speaker 2 (35:31):
Soon enough.
Speaker 1 (35:32):
Pee-Pee.
He has not tried it, he'll loveit.
I feel like Jordan is going tosay May-Ben.
Speaker 2 (35:36):
You know what I'm going to say.
You know I'm going to sayMay-Ben, yeah, that's fair.
Speaker 4 (35:39):
That's fair.
She talks about that a lot.
Speaker 2 (35:41):
I love me some May-Ben, but that's because I'm
loyal to the first release.
But also any Ben Raycouse, anyBen really.
Speaker 1 (35:49):
But mostly any Ben Raycouse.
Speaker 4 (35:51):
I'm going to be a big fan of.
Speaker 2 (35:53):
I don't hate your soft red.
It's just like I don't.
I'm not connected, yet I likethe kick in the face.
Speaker 1 (35:59):
You're like a PR marketing.
You got to connect.
Speaker 2 (36:03):
You got to, it's got to feel, i got to taste.
Speaker 3 (36:06):
I get it.
It's fine.
You haven't had the newestbatch, though.
Speaker 2 (36:10):
I just had some, Oh the soft red.
Speaker 3 (36:12):
Oh, I have nothing.
It was Ben.
Do you know the newest Ben?
No, the soft red.
Speaker 2 (36:17):
Oh, I just tasted it.
Speaker 3 (36:18):
Yeah, you don't think that's fantastic It is
fantastic.
Speaker 2 (36:21):
It is very good but my favorite of Like I had one
sip of it.
Speaker 3 (36:26):
You're going to need to have to.
Yeah, I need to like.
Speaker 1 (36:29):
I got a bottle.
It's not enough for me to sayit's my favorite at this point,
but it is very good.
Speaker 2 (36:33):
That's a good point, Matt.
Yes.
Speaker 1 (36:36):
It's enough for me to say it's my favorite of our
weeded.
That was really good.
I like Shorty as our one barrel.
My second favorite one barrelis the one that we did on the
podcast that no one else likedbecause it was mine, and then
(36:56):
Wait, the one McCormick Lane?
Speaker 2 (36:58):
No, the one you chose on the podcast, the one I chose
on the podcast because no oneelse liked.
Speaker 1 (37:01):
Yeah, that was my fifth.
Speaker 3 (37:02):
That was in me and Tucker's top five.
Speaker 1 (37:04):
Yeah, but I mean it could have been my number two.
Speaker 3 (37:06):
I don't remember which barrels were which.
Speaker 2 (37:07):
I mean it didn't suck , but it wasn't.
Speaker 1 (37:09):
It was my number one and it would have sold out right
away, but we just Too bad,that's fine.
Speaker 2 (37:16):
That's fine When I go up and pick the samples with
Matt and Tucker, do we?
Speaker 4 (37:20):
know if that ever got sold off to an account or
anything, or if that's still upthere.
Speaker 1 (37:23):
I don't know how we're going to remember.
Speaker 4 (37:25):
I was going to say we maybe should look at that.
Speaker 2 (37:28):
Yeah, how do you even remember at this point, there
was a lot of bourbon flow inthat day.
Speaker 1 (37:33):
I think I have the card that says which ones we
sampled.
Speaker 4 (37:36):
Well, so we did say it on the podcast, so we can
just go back and listen to it,that's true.
Speaker 3 (37:40):
Yeah, actually We'll just go back to the text
messages and figure it out.
Speaker 2 (37:43):
Yeah, Yeah, or further our records.
Speaker 1 (37:46):
Yeah, it's funny to think that when we were putting
together the distillery, welooked at TTB records and actual
documents And if people everlook back at what we're doing,
they're going to be listening tothis And I feel bad for them.
Like, this is the way that youfigure out how to make bourbon.
That's not fun at all.
Speaker 2 (38:08):
I mean I think it's fun, kyle.
I think you're kind of beingnegative.
I think that's super fun.
I mean I'm always negative.
Speaker 1 (38:16):
I'm always negative, but I enjoyed today because
these two had so much likeanxiety about this that it was
like I talk on the podcastmultiple times about how I have
anxiety about a release or whatwe're doing or talking to people
in general.
And today it was good because,like I'm the seasoned vet of the
(38:38):
podcast and then these two arejust joining and they have no
idea.
Speaker 2 (38:42):
It's not so bad right .
Speaker 3 (38:44):
I don't typically have anxiety about anything I do
Super laid back, but I feltlike I needed to eat Xanax today
.
That's the way I felt And then,once I found out that we're
going to be on video, I was likewhat the hell happened here?
I don't want this.
Speaker 2 (39:02):
Yeah, you thought you just made whiskey for a living.
Yeah, it's all now It's beengood.
It's been good.
Well, except for that, That'sthe worst thing.
Speaker 5 (39:12):
I've drank all day Anyone who's not watching the
video?
Speaker 1 (39:16):
again, we're pointing at Tucker's favorite sample
that none of us drank except forTucker.
Speaker 3 (39:21):
It's syrupy, it's pretty light, it's super sweet.
Speaker 5 (39:25):
It's onto something We can work on it.
Speaker 2 (39:26):
Yeah, we'll see what we can do with that.
It needs to be onto a drain,it's where it needs to be on
sometime, whatever That stuff.
Speaker 5 (39:34):
It's the same.
Speaker 1 (39:36):
But May is good, So yeah.
Speaker 2 (39:37):
I'm excited about that.
Yeah, well guys, what did Imiss?
Is that it?
Yeah, all right.
Speaker 4 (39:46):
Cheers.
Speaker 1 (39:46):
I'm sure I can make one of them all day, but yes,
that's it, cheers.
Speaker 2 (39:50):
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (40:21):
Thank you.
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