Hollow + Substantial

Hollow + Substantial

A conversation between a 20-something and a 50-something about art, culture, faith, justice, equality and life in general. Fiona Hollow and Fiona Stewart both work in the cultural sphere and are both Christians. One lives in Glasgow, the other in London. Hollow is 26 and Substantial is 50. What can one generation learn from the other?

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March 1, 2024 53 mins

Back to origin story, Fi and Fi contemplate how their intergenerational friendship has grown over the years, and how they have both changed in the time they've known each other. Plus, there are a couple of viewing recommendations and some thoughts on card-making and changing physical habit. Grab your beverage of choice and settle down for a chat.

All of Us Strangers
The Agency  Unfiltered 

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The Fionas are back! It's been almost 2 years, but the time has come to lay down some new chat. After a bit of a catch up, there are some theatre and TV recommendations, a discussion of what Season 7 will hold and a tidbit of practical help about dealing with leftover food and speed tidying. Mens sansa in freezero sano. Or something.

James Acaster
The Traitors
Two Strangers (Carry A Cake Across New York)
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August 26, 2022 46 mins

If music be the food of friendship, speak on! We’re on the very broad topic of music this episode. Before that, though, there’s a lot of chat and some fairly serious recommendations of reading and watching. It’s all very harmonious, of course.

Cilka’s Journey (Heather Morris)
Good Grief with Reverend Richard Coles (Channel 4)
Yvonne Lyon
Candide (Scottish Opera)


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August 12, 2022 47 mins

Pushing the boundaries of their known universe, Fiona and Fiona are on the topic of solar systems, galaxies and black holes in this episode. There's a recommendation of something to read, one of something to watch, and then a lot of spacey chat, some of which is rooted in fact, and all of which is full of wonder. 

What You Call Free (Flora Johnston)
Uncoupled (Netflix)

Powers of Ten (BBC Ideas)
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July 22, 2022 42 mins

The Fionas are on home territory in this episode, talking about the world of theatre. After some book recommendations and a long-forgotten Pixar movie, conversation turns to snobbery, intercity and interval ice cream. And a lot of Empty Space...

Oh William! (Elizabeth Strout)
Grey Bees (Andrey Kurkov)
Seasonal Quartet (Ali Smith)
Life Class (Pat Barker)
Wall.E (Pixar)
The Burnt City (Punchdrunk)
The...

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July 15, 2022 36 mins

Join us in a little JOMO by absorbing yourself in this chat. There are a couple of recommendations of what to watch, and then the conversation turns to the fear of missing out.

Everything I Know About Love (Book - Dolly Alderton)
Everything I Know About Love (TV - iPlayer)
This Is Us (Prime)

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July 8, 2022 35 mins

Your favourite Fionas are back with some light summery chit chat. Come and join them on the adventure...

Fracture (Matthew Parris)
Millions (Frank Cottrell Boyce)
The Sacred podcast (Theos Think Tank)

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July 1, 2022 7 mins

As Etta James, and many loyal listeners, would likely say, at last! Hollow and Substantial are back with a few delicious morsels of summery delight, and here’s an amuse bouche to give you a flavour of what’s to follow...

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December 24, 2021 64 mins

It’s the final episode of the season, and we’re going out with a bang (and a cough and a giggle). There’s a health update, a true crime podcast, a bit of 90s throwback TV and discussion of New Year. Hollow has found a hobby she’d forgotten and there’s wisdom on getting your tax return done and listening to your body. Happy New Year!

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Sweet Bobby
This Life

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December 17, 2021 45 mins

Hollow has been reading beautiful Advent meditations and Substantial has an arty recommendation.  Conversation centres around London - what is it about London that makes it such a cultural draw? What’s it like to live there?  There’s a Lost and Found about being prepared for an impromptu speech,  and wisdom on being crafty and stopping in the midst of the busyness.

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A Quickening
Moving Pictu...

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December 3, 2021 63 mins

Hollow has been to see some improvised Jane Austen, and Substantial is embarking on another winter reading project. Meanwhile, we don’t know much about art, but we certainly like talking about it - maybe there should be a warning to any art lovers that we are NOT experts! There’s a Lost and Found about rediscovering child-like pleasures, and some wisdom on good housekeeping.

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November 26, 2021 53 mins

We're already at Episode 4! Substantial is on catch-up TV and Hollow is watching something brand new. Plus, as this episode was recorded during COP26 there's a lot of chat about how any of us can participate in big global topics. Not only that, but there's a story about a poached egg and a Bounty, a Lost and Found about the benefits of ageing and some wisdom to take you into the week. Plus,  you can participate by su...

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November 19, 2021 61 mins

Episode 3 of this season is the first of our listener generated topics, and we’re plunging straight in with some civilised discourse on the importance of disagreeing well. Both Fionas have had their eyes caught by some island-based telly, there’s a Lost and Found (with a visual aid!) on prioritising your time and some wisdom on encouraging your artistic tribe and remembering your PIN.  It’s a long episode - there was so much to agr...

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November 12, 2021 51 mins

Episode 2 of this season will either fly or plummet. It’s a weighty topic, but with a little bit of body art chat, some books to read, a Lost and Found about streamlining your subscriptions and some wisdom for the week, it’s jam-packed with all your favourite bits. Plus, the weighty chat is pretty interesting and leads to a volte-face from Substantial.

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An American Marriage
Mayflies
So Y...

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November 5, 2021 58 mins

It’s been a while but the Fionas are back and there’s a lot to talk about. After an introduction to the new season, there are a couple recommendations of what to watch this autumn, a conversation about the ups and downs of turning a year older plus some wisdom about writing cards and dealing with fruit flies. Plus, there’s a whole new segment - Lost and Found - all about what we’re ditching and what we’re keeping in these strange d...

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March 19, 2021 46 mins

It’s the final episode of season 4 and the chat is all future-focussed. After some book chat and a film review, the conversation wanders away. With some hope about emotion and some wisdom on dealing with your government paperwork and planning your post-lockdown world, it’s everything you need for now.

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March 12, 2021 46 mins

Feisty women and comedy duos...that’s just for starters. The main course this week is a vegetarian option. There are definitions, ethical arguments, historical vegetarians and a couple of recipe suggestions. For dessert there’s hope from International Women’s Day, and then we’re off to the toilet. Honestly, that’s where we end up! 

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March 5, 2021 45 mins

How do you sort out your life? Secrets are revealed as we have a book review, a YouTube recommendation, some chat about admin, a poem, a project for the weekend and new way of describing how we're all feeling.

Dolly Alderton
Real Red Seas
Gingers

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February 26, 2021 43 mins

There's a true crime podcast, a documentary about an octopus and a chat about power dynamics. All that plus an exciting expansion to Hollow's gardening ambitions, and advice about what to do in the event of a digital power cut. 

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February 19, 2021 44 mins

French Netflix, Louisiana nuns, new glasses, potato chitting  and championing the young - all the usual nonsense you expect, and some quality chat about how our relationship with our parents changes over the years. 

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