July 7, 2025 • 44 mins
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The gut is far more than just a food processor—it's intimately connected to our emotional well-being, nervous system function, and overall health. In this revealing conversation, Melissa and Bri unpack the complex relationship between our minds and digestive systems, offering insights that conventional medicine often overlooks.
The hosts dive deep into the world of Irritable Bowel Syndrome (IBS) and leaky gut syndrome. What makes this episode particularly valuable is the exploration of how our nervous system directly influences digestive function. The hosts explain how oversensitive nerve endings in the digestive tract can transform normal digestive processes into painful experiences, and why childhood emotional trauma often manifests as adult gut problems. The homeopathic approach shines here as Melissa and Bri detail specific remedies that address both physical and emotional aspects of digestive disorders. Listeners will discover targeted solutions that address root causes rather than just symptoms. Whether you've struggled with digestive issues for years or simply want to understand the fascinating gut-brain connection better, this episode offers compassionate insight and practical tools to support your journey toward true gut health. Your body is communicating—are you ready to listen?
Content credit: Information adapted from The Mayo Clinic: Irritable Bowel Syndrome
Information adapted from Dr Josh Axe Leaky Gut, How to Improve Gut Health Naturally, Most Common IBS Symptoms and What You Can Do About Them, Do I have SIBO Symptoms? Here is ALL You Need To Know! , Natural Treatment Plan for Celiac Disease Symptoms, Colon Cancer Symptoms and The Prevention Diet, 4 Steps to Overcome Chronic Fatigue Syndrome
Information adapted from The National Library of Medicine: Leaky Gut as a Danger Signal for Autoimmune , The Intestinal Barrier and Current Techniques for the Assessment of Gut Permeability, Progression of intestinal permeability changes and alpha-synuclein expression in a mouse model of Parkinson's disease, Leaky gut: mechanisms, measurement and clinical implications in humans, Leaky Gut and Autoimmunity: An Intricate Balance in Individuals Health and Diseased State
Information adapted from Science Direct: Potential mechanisms for the emerging link between obesity and increased intestinal permeability
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome back to Homeopathy at Home with Melissa.
Hey, Melissa.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Hey Brie, Super excited to talk about some gut
stuff today.
I know people will beinterested in this.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
Yeah, we get a lot of questions about these things in
particular, but before we getto our content, we have a fan
mail.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Yay, I love fan mail.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
This is pretty fun.
I know we had a.
They're all over the place too,so, um, some of them really
specific, but we thought thiswas a good one for tonight.
This one says hi.
Well, this one's from union,missouri.
So if you are from there, wedon't have a name, just location
.
But they said hi, love yourcontent.
(00:44):
I'm learning so much.
I'm looking for info onhomeopathy for absence, seizures
or staring in children andwould love if you do a video on
what remedies could assist that.
Thanks.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
Okay.
So yes, we could actually do.
We probably could do a podcaston, you know, just a whole
episode on absent seizures, butand just what that looks like.
That would just take some.
Yeah, that would take someresearch and some some getting
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some stuff together.
But I do want to just answerwith a top choice for absent
seizures in any age is Ignatia.
I think I would just start withIgnatia without even knowing
anything else, and that could bereally helpful.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
Okay, and that's a pretty safe remedy to use.
I mean they're all safe, but Imean alone on your own.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
Right, exactly.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
Easy place to start.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
Exactly, yep, okay, great question, and we get that
a lot.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
What about a potency?
Speaker 2 (01:56):
I really so.
Either 30 or 200.
So you could do 30 once per dayor 200 once per day If you
really don't know.
You know the sensitivity ofyour child or the person that
you're helping, or you don'tknow how to choose.
Always, what I always say isstart low and slow when you
don't know.
So in something like this,that's chronic.
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30 C every day, every day,because what?
Even if the the occurrence isonly every few weeks or every
few months, we want.
We want to correct it anduproot the whole condition.
We're not going to give thisacutely okay, okay.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
so today, whenever you're, we're recording in the
evening we're talking about IBSand leaky gut.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
Yeah, ibs most people know it's irritable bowel
syndrome and it's been around.
The diagnosis itself has beenaround for a long time and I was
just telling you, breeie,before we got on here started
recording.
I was diagnosed with IBS when Iwas 16.
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So that was a long time ago.
I mean that was in the 80s.
So I mean I guess it's not.
I don't know when the diagnosiscame about, but you know, I
guess I'm saying that becauseit's not a new thing, even
though a lot more people arebeing diagnosed with it or have
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it.
It's not, it's not new.
And so I want to read from theMayo Clinic.
I do like to look up conditionsand symptoms from the Mayo
Clinic.
I just like I like to do that,so I'm going to read.
This is directly from the MayoClinic and it says IBS is a
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common condition that affectsthe stomach and intestines, also
called the gastrointestinaltract.
Symptoms include cramping bellypain, bloating gas and diarrhea
or constipation or both.
Ibs is an ongoing condition thatneeds long-term management.
Only a small number of peoplewith IBS have severe symptoms.
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Some people can control theirsymptoms by managing diet,
lifestyle and stress.
More severe symptoms can betreated with medicine and
counseling, and we're going totalk about that.
Why counseling?
We're going to get into that ina little bit.
So of course the Mayo Clinic isan allopathic clinic.
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Of course they're going to saymedicine, and then IBS does not
cause changes in bowel tissue orincreased risk of colorectal
cancer.
So you know a rest, a restfulrest, assured.
This is not.
If you get a diagnosis of IBS,you're not at increased risk of
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cancer.
All right, you want to talkabout the symptoms?
Go ahead.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
Yeah, I will, and I I wonder if that's um just
knowing in the past, like I, haddigestive issues in my teen
years as well and friends ofmine diagnosed with Crohn's or
colitis and I it sounds like thedifference there is those do
have tissue change in theintestine where, like IBS,
doesn't, so maybe that's howthey rule out the other
conditions.
Yeah, okay, so symptoms of IBSmay vary but are usually present
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for a long time, most commonlybelly pain, cramping, bloating.
That's related to passing stool, changes in appearance of the
stool or how often that you arehaving a bowel movement.
Other symptoms can also includefeeling like it's an incomplete
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evacuation.
I always think that's such afunny term when you are talking
about going to the bathroomIncomplete evacuation and
increased gas or mucus in thestool.
Ibs is a functional disorder,which means that even though the
digestive tract looks normal,it's not functioning as it
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should.
Muscles in the intestines movefood from your stomach to the
rectum.
Muscles in the intestines movefood from your stomach to the
rectum and normally they'recontracting and relaxing in a
gentle rhythm that moves thefood along, and for healthy guts
that's a predictable schedule.
But with some people the musclespasm, the contractions are
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longer and stronger and thosespasms are painful.
They disrupt the movement offood through the intestines, so
if they slow it down you'reconstipated.
If they move too quickly youget diarrhea.
So it's not unusual for IBSpeople to alternate between both
.
Another cause of discomfort forpeople with IBS results from
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oversensitive nerve endings inthe digestive tract.
So small bubbles of gas thatwouldn't bother most people
might be really painful forthose people and that heightened
sensitivity can lead toswelling and bloating, which
we're talking about nervoussystem stuff.
This was so interesting to mehow your nervous system, the way
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that your body reads, yournerves read this stuff, can
cause the the physical responselike that.
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
So you know it.
Just this really kind of takesme back to you know teenage
years when I was diagnosed andhow nothing was explained to me,
nothing.
But I also didn't ask that youdidn't, you didn't ask questions
back then it's so hard to knowwhat to ask though how would you
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know?
You know, I mean, but these daysI would just be.
I would at least ask okay, whatis that?
What does that mean?
Yeah, and how does that work?
And how does what does?
How did I get that somethingRight?
But at 16, I was like, yeah,just give me the medicine, I'm
out, I just want to feel better.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
But were your parents with you, like, would they have
thought to ask that?
Or I guess, if parents don'tknow, they wouldn't have thought
to as soon as I start thedifference between today's kids
and me.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
As soon as I started driving, my parents were never
with me.
I went to the doctor by myself,the grocery store work, like
all the things.
So, no, I didn't.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
I remember being in the doctor's office and him
telling me you know IBS and Iwas like you, just go home and
say, mom, I have IBS and it'sjust I guess, or I probably just
went to the pharmacy and got mymedicine and just took it.
I mean yeah, and you just don'ttalk about it.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
Yeah, yeah, I remember that part, but yeah,
it's.
This is so interesting to me,just knowing how it works and
you know how you eat, because Ihear we hear ibs all the time,
but do we ever think about whatthat really is or how that works
?
So some things that can causeibs are muscle contractions in
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the intestines, your nervoussystem, like you already said,
severe infections, early lifestress and changes in the gut
microbes Somewhere.
We're going to talk about themental, emotional okay, stress,
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that's early life stress.
So people exposed to stressfulevents, especially in childhood,
tend to have more symptoms ofIBS.
So you consider this is a storythat my mom has told me, told me
many times over the years that,um, when my parents got
divorced, I didn't show anyemotion, I was just quiet and
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they thought she's just fine,she, she took it fine.
But now we know, yeah, probablynot.
There's no divorce, that's easyon a child, right, and so, um,
so that probably was my firstearliest stressor.
And then there's just life.
You know, just being a teenageris, so can be so stressful.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
I hear kids, of kids having stomach aches.
You hear this kind of stuff alot and I very often will ask
what's been going on in life,because a lot of times kids do
just cope.
Our bodies are very smart, ouremotions are, it's just guarded
right.
They survive, they just do whatthey got to do and this stuff
comes out though a different way.
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And if you think about the wayyour stress level can affect
your nervous system, which isyour regulator right Of your
body, so your emotions affectyour nervous system and if
that's a big part of somepeople's IBS, that would make
sense, that it would presentthat way.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
You know.
And then now we know so muchabout the vagus nerve that we
didn't you know.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
And then now we know so much about the vagus nerve
that we didn't Right so prettyslow before I mean this whole
domino Right, we can follow yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
So we don't get stressed out while we're
learning about these things.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
Well, this is a perfect example Well, there's a
lot of them, but of why.
And when we talk about leakygut, same thing.
These are.
These are topics that can throwyou down some really deep
rabbit holes of trying to findwhere did it start, why, if it's
gut microbiomes, what do I takefor that?
What do I do to fix theetiology?
Speaker 2 (11:52):
And this is why I love homeopathy, because we
don't even have to know whereevery day they work I say that
every day on the free 15 minutephone calls.
Most people are trying tofigure out the etiology and
what's wrong, what caused thisand what's happening.
I'm like this is why I lovehomeopathy.
I don't have to know, and forsome people that's like what I
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don't, but I want to know.
Okay, yeah, I don't have toknow if I can, and I think
sometimes it can still treat the.
The cool thing about theremedies is they are treating
the root cause, even if we don'tknow what exactly that is
Exactly, but a lot of peoplejust want to know anyway, and
I've I've settled in my mind Idon't have to know if I can
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address that symptom and feelbetter and know that I'm getting
to the root cause anyway.
So this is why I don't know ifI've ever had whatever.
I don't know you know, certainwell, covid, I don't know if
I've ever had COVID, probably,but I don't know Cause.
Then I got tested and I'm justwe're addressing the presenting
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symptoms.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
And very often I feel like I see the link.
As somebody physically getswell or we start remedies, the
triggers, or that where it comesfrom, does start to become more
apparent.
True, where, instead of beingdisrupted all the time, they can
clearly see.
Oh, it's when I had a reallystressful exam coming up, or a
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work, a stressor that seems totrigger my IBS or you know,
after a sickness this lasts areally long time two months.
For two months I'm my stomach'supset.
So I do think those things.
As you move forward withremedies, it becomes clearer.
Sometimes, not all the time,sometimes it just gets better,
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and then that's, that's all.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
Okay.
So I got a tangent there.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
I love it.
No, I love it the conversations.
It's so helpful.
Do you want to talk about thetriggers?
Speaker 1 (14:00):
Sure, yeah, triggers.
So the symptoms of IBS can betriggered by many things.
Some of them we've alreadytalked about, but the couple
primary ones are food, um thatthe role of food allergies or
intolerance in IBS is not fullyunderstood.
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Sometimes a true food allergyor, I'm sorry, a true food
allergy rarely causes IBS, butmany people do have worse
symptoms when they eat certainfoods or drink certain things.
Um, obviously, I think the oneswe hear a lot are gluten and
dairy, um, citrus fruits,carbonated drinks, um other
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things that are just difficultfor digestion, and then stress.
So most people do have worse ormore frequent symptoms during
periods of time with increasedstress.
So, um, I thought this is allinteresting because it is
functional and they don't knowwhat causes it.
It may, the stress might makesymptoms worse, but doesn't
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always cause the symptoms, ifthat makes sense, like they're
there anyway, but they're worsewhen you're stressed.
Yeah, you're more likely tosuffer from IBS if you're under
50, a female and have a familyhistory or mental health issues.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
Yep.
So that mental health piece isgoing to be a common and a
really, I guess I could say,strong theme throughout these
remedies that we're going totalk about, these remedies that
are big for IBS have big mentalemotional pictures, and so we
know in homeopathy that when wethat it homeopathy shines in the
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mental emotional piece of yourhealth, mental emotional
conditions is my favorite kindof case to work on, and not
because it's easy, but becauseit it's clear.
It's more clear to me probably,like eczema is to you.
You can see right how thingsare getting better.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
You do see, in places where I cannot find a good
remedy, you do see the mental,emotional remedies very well.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
Yeah, thank you for that.
So Argentinit Argentum Nitricumis silver nitrate and this
remedy has a big mentalemotional picture which is often
indicated in people with IBS.
So it has a lot of anxiety,anticipation, fears and
trembling.
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They have a great desire forsweets, which negatively affects
the gut.
These people are nervous,impulsive and hurried, yet timid
and anxious.
They can have panic and anxietyattacks, anticipation,
apprehension and fear when goingto the doctor, dentist or other
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new places.
Argentum nitricum modalities areworse at night, worse for sugar
, worse on the left side, worsebefore and during menses, better
from open fresh air, better forcold air and cold baths, better
for motion and then the gut.
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Health issues of ArgentumNitricum include diarrhea from
emotions or anticipation andafter any emotion, with
flatulence.
Nervous diarrhea after sugarmotion with flatulence, nervous
diarrhea after sugarconstipation alternating with
diarrhea, belching flatulence,painful swelling of the stomach
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and enormous distentionalteration with radiating pain,
nausea, retching, vomiting andviolent colicky pains, and their
stools might have a shreddedappearance with mucus turning
green like chopped spinach,watery and very offensive.
So that's Argentum Nitricum,silver nitrate.
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I think that's going to be oneof the top choices, especially
when the mental emotional fits.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
That was going to be.
My next question was as we talkthrough these remedies, did you
put them in order of how youwould rank them, or are they
just in any order?
Speaker 2 (18:28):
Actually I didn't mean to, but it looks like, yes,
they are in order.
So do you want to talk aboutIgnatia?
Speaker 1 (18:37):
Sure, okay, ignatia Amara, one of my favorite
remedies and we mentioned it inthe beginning.
It can do a lot of things, butspecifically for IBS, um, just
like Argentum, nitricum has abig mental emotional picture
which I think you're going tosee when taking care of IBS that
that sounds like it's a hugeelement of it, of treatment.
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Ignatia is the queen of worry.
These people worry themselvesinto IBS.
Their symptoms they can havesuppressed or deep grief,
sobbing sadness or deep grief,sobbing sadness, sighing, often
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emotional shock anddisappointment disorders of the
mind.
They may be really unhappypeople who can't sleep.
They are worse for consolation,very oversensitive and nervous,
constantly frustrated,quarrelsome.
They're internally conflicted,very highly emotional and moody.
So joking, they'll go fromhaving a great time joking,
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laughing, to changing and beingsad and tearful.
Ignatia has OCD.
Ignatia has OCD, the fear ofbeing hurt and disappointed.
They're very idealistic,sentimental and romantic.
They might be jealous fromdisappointing love or homesick.
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Ignatia physically, the abdomenmay have spasms and cramps with
flatulence and colic, worse atnight, worse for coffee and
sweets, fullness of theirabdomen and distension causing
an inability to breathe.
And that might not be literallycan't breathe, but I have heard
that where they like can't takea breath or they feel like they
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can't.
The gut picture of Ignatiaincludes constipation diarrhea
alternating with constipation,painful constriction of the anus
after stool, hemorrhoids,sinking feeling in the stomach
or an empty feeling or tremblingin the stomach.
There will be flatulence,hunger with nausea,
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regurgitation of food, and thestools can look like they have
all kinds of colors and mucus.
They can also be large and softbut pass with difficulty.
So some overlap there, butthere are there are some other
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specific ones there that youshould be able to differentiate
well.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
Yeah, I think it's the I think it's the worry.
Did ArgentNet have a lot ofworry?
They had a lot of fears.
Yes, yeah, argentinian had alot of anticipation,
anticipation yeah, and, and thenIgnatia has a lot of worry.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
I was saying Argentinian had like that
hurried.
Like I picture somebody who islike um internally, like humming
, like they're worried aboutwhat's going to come.
Not worried but like fearful ofwhat's going to come.
Yeah, um Nervous people, andthen Ignatia is like worry and
yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
Huh.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
It reminds me of Eeyore.
I know there are other remediesthat can be Eeyore, but Ignatia
sounds kind of like Eeyore fromWinnie the Pooh Eeyore.
I was like what is she saying?
The word wasn't growing beauty,you know, the little, the
little.
He's like sighing andeverything.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
Yeah, mm, hmm, mm, hmm.
Um, yeah, I love Ignatia and Ilove like a podium.
Like a podium is amazing.
It's a huge remedy.
Um, it's club moss and it'sanother fantastic one for the
mental emotional conditions.
Um, so, as, as well as guthealth.
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So it, like a podium, is a biggut health remedy and a big
mental emotional remedy.
So the mental picture of like apodium includes a weak memory,
confusion, dyslexia, difficultconcentration, indecisive, timid
, low self-confidence, poorself-esteem.
They also have someanticipation, which is averse to
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undertaking new things, yetthey go through it with ease.
So you think of the personthat's so scared to go on for
that dance recital, yet they getup there and do amazing and you
would never know they werenervous about it and they're.
You know they're finished andlike, oh my gosh, you almost
died, but what you did so good.
You know some people you cantell they're really nervous, but
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these, like a podium, you can'teven tell they're nervous.
They can have great anxiety inthe pit of the stomach, anxiety
inside of their house, so theymight feel more anxious in their
home.
They might feel more anxiouswith company during stormy
weather, while walking in theopen air.
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They can have panic attackswith fear of failure, public
speaking and stage fright.
They have a fear of being alone.
They can awake irritable andangry, sad and anxious, and they
can be domineering and have alove for power.
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So the gut health picture oflycopodium includes bloating,
food allergies, flatulence, fulland bloated immediately after
eating I hear this all the timeRight when they finish eating,
they're so full and bloated.
When that happens to me, whichis very rare anymore, I still
will take lycopodium only asneeded.
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So I used to need like a podiumregularly, but now, on the rare
occasion that I get bloated,I'll just take a one dose of
like a podium.
And so this is where we'regetting to in our homeopathy
journey and our health journeyis you get to where you don't
need a remedy on a schedule, butyou get you to where you just
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take a remedy when you have asymptom that you need or want to
take care of.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
Okay, Remind me to circle back to that when you
finish like a podium, because Iwant your thoughts on that the
chronically moving from likeregularly scheduled chronics to
here and there.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
Okay, okay, oh okay.
So, yes, diabetes, weak liverand poor digestion liver painful
to pressure and spots, jaundicewith flatulence, violent
gallstone, colic.
Stools can be hard anddifficult, small and incomplete.
They can be pale, putrid, thinand brown.
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They can be mixed with hardlumps.
That's like a podium and I love, love, love, love, love, love
like a podium.
30 or 200 are great choices.
I mean, of course you go 6C or12C, of course you definitely
can.
I just I don't.
Usually I go 30 or 200.
So what were you going to say?
Speaker 1 (26:01):
Yeah, my question.
This is just like aphilosophical maybe or whatever,
just good discussion.
I've been thinking through howyou were saying you use this
here and there when you need it,and you and I have talked about
this before, where this is howmy mind thinks through If we're,
homeopathy uproots conditions,it can be curative and you're no
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longer dealing with a conditionand so like just talking
through that and why people maystill need this remedy right
here and there if you'resupposed to be cured.
And my mind thinks through thisas you go from having a
condition right when, like we'vetalked a lot about how a
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healthy body is not neversymptomatic but that's having a
symptom present does not meanyou have a chronic condition and
so we don't need remedies tofix every tiny little thing.
But when our body is stuck in acycle that creates these
conditions, the remedies helpbreak out and move through it
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all the way to the end.
So am I understanding thatcorrectly, where remedies uproot
that cyclical condition, butthat doesn't mean you may never
have that symptom present againfor the rest of your life?
Speaker 2 (27:17):
I agree with that.
So you know when, on the rareoccasion that I do get bloated,
it's because I chose to eatsomething that I don't normally
eat, or too much.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
Which makes sense, right?
Like your body even a healthybody doesn't like those things.
And so let's say you didn'ttake a remedy.
Your body would move throughand feel better in a day.
Maybe I don't I don't know thatit would be more than a day,
but it's more comfortable if youtake a remedy, right?
Speaker 2 (27:53):
so, yeah, if I take like a podium, it's's, you know,
it's minutes and I'm, I feelbetter, I'm like, ooh, okay, so
um and uh, you know, bloatingcan be really uncomfortable
really, especially if you're outsomewhere, you're not even at
home, or you can just unbuttonyour pants.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
Yeah, amen.
Speaker 2 (28:14):
It can be so uncomfortable.
So I'm, you know, I'm looking,I'm taking it for comfort but
also, at the same time, it isstrengthening that system.
So you know, when I say um, atesomething that I don't normally
eat, I think you all know Idon't.
I don't completely agree withcutting out whole food groups,
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but I think all of this is why Idon't guide people on nutrition
, because I think everybody's sodifferent.
Every body is so different, orat least somewhat different,
different enough that, while Imight be able to eat tomatoes
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you know you are okay, let'sjust take the.
Do you know what I figured out?
Bree from the um, the guacamolefrom the retreat it was
leftover, it was two or threedays old the histamine it was
the histamine.
I know that.
I just figured that out.
So I made me and Grace madefresh guacamole and remember I
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was saying I don't know,sometimes avocado makes my
stomach hurt and sometimes itdoesn't.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
It was leftover.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
Okay, right.
Speaker 1 (29:29):
I mean, I don't eat leftover guacamole because it's
brown.
So that was not brown.
No, it wasn't brown.
No.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
No, it wasn't, but it was still a couple of days old.
Speaker 1 (29:42):
Okay, yeah, okay, we're going to have to come back
to this because I want to talkabout histamine, next podcast.
So we're going to do this.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
Well, mcas, so we're going to talk about mast cell,
and so that's histamine, allright, um, so that's the point,
though.
Right, because four of us couldsit there at the retreat and
eat, eat guacamole, and only oneof us gets a stomach ache.
And it's not because I'mallergic to guacamole or avocado
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.
It was, uh, my, there wassomething about that, right, and
I think it was the histaminethat my body just didn't agree
with at that moment or deal with, well, and so you take a remedy
, right.
So I don't have a condition, Idon't have mast cell activation
syndrome, you know.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
I still stand by my own, whatever.
I am not like an amateurresearcher, but just my
observations of people.
And I do think different peopleunder stress or presented with
a different scenario respond.
They have like a way that theirbody communicates that some
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people it's on their skin rightaway, some people it's in their
gut right away.
My husband gets he'll startgetting heartburn again if he
has a lot of work stress and hedoesn't even realize what's
going on.
But I just think certain peoplepresent a way.
But I don't believe that Iwouldn't say to anyone that he
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suffers from chronic indigestionall the time anymore.
But you know, I don't know whatthat is exactly, but I do think
I different bodies, healthypeople, still their our bodies
communicate when we're like notright.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
So there's a weakness .
There's a weakness in everyperson, something that's weaker
than other systems, and whenthere's stress, it's going to
attack that weakest part and forme it's it's it's gut.
Speaker 1 (31:36):
I've had gut issues since I was five, or born, or
whatever you know Now, do youthink those could be totally
uprooted at some point with,like really deep treatment?
I mean, would it just take solong in our life because we
started so like we didn't dothis as children, right?
Speaker 2 (31:51):
I absolutely believe gut issues can be uprooted
Absolutely, and so you know,having a nice clean diet and
minimal stress and you knowtaking good homeopathic remedies
, but especially well you knowthe just getting ready for the
retreat and being there, thatwas just an added stressor and
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you know for me.
But so I don't believe that Istill have IBS, I just believe
there's a weakness there.
So when something comes, whenstressors come, I'm going to
feel it.
That's where I'm going to feelit.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (32:31):
Right, and then mine just presents differently, like
everybody's or not everybody,but you know they are like
different ways that thosepresent.
Okay, yeah, all right, greatyeah.
Speaker 2 (32:42):
So I want to just point out there is a Banerjee
protocol for IBS, but I, Iwouldn't, I, I don't recommend
it.
Well, I wouldn't recommendusing it without being under the
care of a homeopath.
So, under the care of ahomeopath.
Yes, under the care of ahomeopath.
Yes, it's a Banerjee protocol,it's in their original book.
It's in their original book, soit's proven.
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But it includes tuberculinum, adaily dose, and I have seen too
many aggravations on tuberculin.
Um, I never start withtuberculin daily and not 200
because of the amount ofaggravations that I've seen.
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So if you're going to do theBanerjee protocol, I would say,
do that under the care of ahomeopath who can guide you and
and look at things.
Speaker 1 (33:36):
Now I like yep Yep Umuxfamica, I like Yep Yep
Tuberculin.
I agree totally.
That is one that is interestingto me.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
So okay, you want to tell them when do they need to
seek professional help?
Speaker 1 (33:54):
Well, whenever you think you need to no, I'm
kidding Um see a healthcareprofessional If you have
persistent change in bowelhabits or other symptoms of IBS.
So you just want to rule outother serious conditions,
because there are some seriousthings that you need to be
treated.
Um.
So really significant ones youshould pay more attention to are
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weight loss, diarrhea at nightI'm assuming that means because
you're not eating and stillhaving diarrhea.
I don't know why.
I don't know why that's listedthere Rectal bleeding, iron
deficiency, anemia, unexplainedvomiting and pain that is not
relieved by passing gas or stool.
Speaker 2 (34:35):
A couple of those I'd be like, yeah, I'm not going to
a doctor for but Well, maybenot the first, I guess.
Speaker 1 (34:41):
if it's persistent right, If you're not ever
getting better, even withremedies, right.
Speaker 2 (34:46):
But rectal bleeding, yeah, you better receive
Unexplained vomiting.
I'd probably still take aremedy.
I'd be taking China.
Speaker 1 (34:56):
Right, and I think we would try remedies first for a
lot of these things.
Speaker 2 (35:06):
Right, yeah, yeah, absolutely All right.
Let's talk about leaky gut.
So, um, the information that Igrabbed about leaky gut and what
it is, I got from Dr Josh Axe,his website, and because I
really like his information, doyou want?
Speaker 1 (35:24):
to read about what leaky gut is.
Yeah, tell us what leaky gut is?
Okay.
So this is again Dr Josh Axe.
He says leaky gut syndrome isconsidered a hypothetical health
condition and currently has yetto be formally recognized as a
medical diagnosis.
However, the concept ofincreased intestinal
permeability, aka leaky gut,that occurs in some
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gastrointestinal diseases isgaining renewed attention from
both the medical and naturalhealth community.
Many people exhibit poor dietchoices, chronic stress, toxic
overload and bacterial imbalance, which are also considered
triggers for leaky gut.
Why should it concern you?
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Studies recently haveconsidered leaky gut a
quote-unquote danger signal forautoimmune disease.
What happens if you have it?
Do you want me to keep going?
What happens if you have it?
Do you want me to keep going?
Okay, the intestines areprotected by a single layer of
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specialized epithelial cellsthat are linked together by
tight junction proteins.
So you might want to go backand listen to that again.
Just rewind me 10 seconds.
There's a lining.
I remember reading about this,like years ago.
Like what in the world am Isaying?
So there's a lining that'sreally tightly linked together,
the cells that are tight andthey're creating a barrier as
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one.
This is now back quoting Dr Axe.
As one 2020 review explains,leaky gut symptoms are a
consequence of intestinal tightjunction malfunction, so they're
not holding tight together.
I'm adding some of my words inhere, so just know that I'm not
quoting him all directly.
Speaker 2 (37:12):
Yeah, so it's literally leaky.
The lining is literally leakingproteins out into your blood,
into your system.
Yes, so it goes.
Speaker 1 (37:21):
What I didn't understand back in the day, when
, before I started reallylearning about this, is that
that stuff goes directly intoyour system.
Yes, so it goes.
What I didn't understand backin the day, when before I
started really learning aboutthis, is that that stuff goes
directly into your bloodstream.
Yeah, and that is so.
That's where those things thatare being released there aren't.
It's fine to go through yourintestines because there's the
lining.
It's getting rid of that junkbut your blood is not supposed
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to have those things in it andthat's why it creates that, all
those symptomatic responses thatwe hear about.
I picture these little dudeslike link in their arms, like
hold it really tight, you know,and then they get spread apart
because they're weak and stuffgoes through them like red Rover
, but they're not doing it.
Love it.
(38:06):
Do you want to do symptoms oryou want me to go and you do
remedies?
Speaker 2 (38:10):
Well, there's not much about remedies, so I'll do
yeah, Okay.
So these tight junctionproteins are the gateway between
your intestines and yourbloodstream.
We already talked about that.
So more than 40 different tightjunction proteins have now been
recognized to play a role ingut health.
So the potential symptoms ofleaky gut are gastric ulcers,
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joint pain, infectious diarrhea,IBS, IBD, which is inflammatory
bowel disease like Crohn's orulcerative colitis, SIBO, which
is small intestinal or smallintestine, bacterial overgrowth,
celiac disease, esophageal andcolorectal cancer, allergies,
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respiratory infections, acuteinflammation conditions like
sepsis, SERS, multiple organfailure, chronic inflammatory
conditions like arthritis,thyroid disorders,
obesity-related metabolicdisease, diseases like fatty
liver, type 2 diabetes and heartdisease, autoimmune diseases
like lupus, multiple sclerosis,type 1 diabetes, Hashimoto's and
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more, Parkinson's disease,chronic fatigue syndrome and the
propensity towards weight gainor obesity.
So like everything, yeah.
So if you have any, I mean ifyou have anything, you probably
have a leaky gut, I mean.
Speaker 1 (39:36):
Well and listen.
We know that so much of ourimmune system is in our gut, yep
, and if it can't do its job, Imean my understanding too, yep,
and if it can't do its job, Imean my understanding too is
that this can even cause a lotof mental, emotional picture,
because there's that gut brainlink.
Absolutely so.
These were all physicalconditions, but I'm I mean,
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there are even studies that showanxiety like big emotional
symptoms anxiety depressionbeing probably the most common
yeah.
Speaker 2 (40:06):
Yeah, Um, so we know leaky gut might not directly
cause those conditions, but it'smore about the people who have
gut issues are more likely tohave a number of other health
problems, because all diseasebegins in the gut.
So some of the underlyingcauses of leaky gut include
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genetic predisposition, poordiet, chronic stress, toxin
overload and bacterial imbalance.
And then what I wanted to saythe reason we're not going to go
into remedies is becausethey're basically the same as
IBS.
Reason we're not going to gointo remedies is because they're
basically the same as IBS.
So all the all the IBS remediescan be used for leaky gut.
Speaker 1 (40:56):
Um, because really, leaky gut is just a general
overview term of a more specificissue, right Like when you take
someone's case.
What I mean?
You would see all the otherpresenting symptoms, and those
remedies would then help healthe gut.
Speaker 2 (41:09):
Exactly.
If somebody comes to me andsays I have leaky gut, that
means zero, to me Nothing.
Speaker 1 (41:14):
What are your?
Speaker 2 (41:14):
symptoms.
Right, what are your symptoms?
Because obviously 10 peoplecould come with leaky gut and
have 10 different symptomspresenting, so we're going to
use the remedies that match.
Have 10 different symptomspresenting, so we're going to
use the remedies that match.
And so a lot of the it's stillgoing to be a lot of the gut and
mental, emotional remedies likean IBS, but some there are more
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, some more great gut remediesto consider are and these are
this is where you'll write downthese remedies and read them in
your Materia Medica and decideif it's decide if it's right for
you.
So Nux, vomica, china, arsenicumAlbum, choledonium, sepia,
carboveg and Bovista, and so, inaddition to the IBS ones that
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we already talked about.
So what we're going to do isteach a full course on IBS, ibd,
ibc, leaky gut, other gutissues, and we're going to teach
in that course the potencies,how often to use it, how to dose
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it, case taking, casemanagement, and so we're going
to go into a lot of detail inthat course.
If you're subscribed to emails,you'll get notified when that
course is released and um,that's all we have for IBS and
leaky gut, but that's a lot.
We did a lot of it's a lot ofgood stuff.
Get it in your notes thank youfor always listening.
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Hey, Melissa.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Hey Brie, Super excited to talk about some gut
stuff today.
I know people will beinterested in this.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
Yeah, we get a lot of questions about these things in
particular, but before we getto our content, we have a fan
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Speaker 2 (00:21):
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Speaker 1 (00:23):
This is pretty fun.
I know we had a.
They're all over the place too,so, um, some of them really
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I'm looking for info onhomeopathy for absence, seizures
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what remedies could assist that.
Thanks.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
Okay.
So yes, we could actually do.
We probably could do a podcaston, you know, just a whole
episode on absent seizures, butand just what that looks like.
That would just take some.
Yeah, that would take someresearch and some some getting
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some stuff together.
But I do want to just answerwith a top choice for absent
seizures in any age is Ignatia.
I think I would just start withIgnatia without even knowing
anything else, and that could bereally helpful.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
Okay, and that's a pretty safe remedy to use.
I mean they're all safe, but Imean alone on your own.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
Right, exactly.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
Easy place to start.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
Exactly, yep, okay, great question, and we get that
a lot.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
What about a potency?
Speaker 2 (01:56):
I really so.
Either 30 or 200.
So you could do 30 once per dayor 200 once per day If you
really don't know.
You know the sensitivity ofyour child or the person that
you're helping, or you don'tknow how to choose.
Always, what I always say isstart low and slow when you
don't know.
So in something like this,that's chronic.
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30 C every day, every day,because what?
Even if the the occurrence isonly every few weeks or every
few months, we want.
We want to correct it anduproot the whole condition.
We're not going to give thisacutely okay, okay.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
so today, whenever you're, we're recording in the
evening we're talking about IBSand leaky gut.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
Yeah, ibs most people know it's irritable bowel
syndrome and it's been around.
The diagnosis itself has beenaround for a long time and I was
just telling you, breeie,before we got on here started
recording.
I was diagnosed with IBS when Iwas 16.
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So that was a long time ago.
I mean that was in the 80s.
So I mean I guess it's not.
I don't know when the diagnosiscame about, but you know, I
guess I'm saying that becauseit's not a new thing, even
though a lot more people arebeing diagnosed with it or have
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it.
It's not, it's not new.
And so I want to read from theMayo Clinic.
I do like to look up conditionsand symptoms from the Mayo
Clinic.
I just like I like to do that,so I'm going to read.
This is directly from the MayoClinic and it says IBS is a
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common condition that affectsthe stomach and intestines, also
called the gastrointestinaltract.
Symptoms include cramping bellypain, bloating gas and diarrhea
or constipation or both.
Ibs is an ongoing condition thatneeds long-term management.
Only a small number of peoplewith IBS have severe symptoms.
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Some people can control theirsymptoms by managing diet,
lifestyle and stress.
More severe symptoms can betreated with medicine and
counseling, and we're going totalk about that.
Why counseling?
We're going to get into that ina little bit.
So of course the Mayo Clinic isan allopathic clinic.
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Of course they're going to saymedicine, and then IBS does not
cause changes in bowel tissue orincreased risk of colorectal
cancer.
So you know a rest, a restfulrest, assured.
This is not.
If you get a diagnosis of IBS,you're not at increased risk of
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cancer.
All right, you want to talkabout the symptoms?
Go ahead.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
Yeah, I will, and I I wonder if that's um just
knowing in the past, like I, haddigestive issues in my teen
years as well and friends ofmine diagnosed with Crohn's or
colitis and I it sounds like thedifference there is those do
have tissue change in theintestine where, like IBS,
doesn't, so maybe that's howthey rule out the other
conditions.
Yeah, okay, so symptoms of IBSmay vary but are usually present
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for a long time, most commonlybelly pain, cramping, bloating.
That's related to passing stool, changes in appearance of the
stool or how often that you arehaving a bowel movement.
Other symptoms can also includefeeling like it's an incomplete
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evacuation.
I always think that's such afunny term when you are talking
about going to the bathroomIncomplete evacuation and
increased gas or mucus in thestool.
Ibs is a functional disorder,which means that even though the
digestive tract looks normal,it's not functioning as it
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should.
Muscles in the intestines movefood from your stomach to the
rectum.
Muscles in the intestines movefood from your stomach to the
rectum and normally they'recontracting and relaxing in a
gentle rhythm that moves thefood along, and for healthy guts
that's a predictable schedule.
But with some people the musclespasm, the contractions are
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longer and stronger and thosespasms are painful.
They disrupt the movement offood through the intestines, so
if they slow it down you'reconstipated.
If they move too quickly youget diarrhea.
So it's not unusual for IBSpeople to alternate between both
.
Another cause of discomfort forpeople with IBS results from
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oversensitive nerve endings inthe digestive tract.
So small bubbles of gas thatwouldn't bother most people
might be really painful forthose people and that heightened
sensitivity can lead toswelling and bloating, which
we're talking about nervoussystem stuff.
This was so interesting to mehow your nervous system, the way
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that your body reads, yournerves read this stuff, can
cause the the physical responselike that.
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
So you know it.
Just this really kind of takesme back to you know teenage
years when I was diagnosed andhow nothing was explained to me,
nothing.
But I also didn't ask that youdidn't, you didn't ask questions
back then it's so hard to knowwhat to ask though how would you
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know?
You know, I mean, but these daysI would just be.
I would at least ask okay, whatis that?
What does that mean?
Yeah, and how does that work?
And how does what does?
How did I get that somethingRight?
But at 16, I was like, yeah,just give me the medicine, I'm
out, I just want to feel better.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
But were your parents with you, like, would they have
thought to ask that?
Or I guess, if parents don'tknow, they wouldn't have thought
to as soon as I start thedifference between today's kids
and me.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
As soon as I started driving, my parents were never
with me.
I went to the doctor by myself,the grocery store work, like
all the things.
So, no, I didn't.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
I remember being in the doctor's office and him
telling me you know IBS and Iwas like you, just go home and
say, mom, I have IBS and it'sjust I guess, or I probably just
went to the pharmacy and got mymedicine and just took it.
I mean yeah, and you just don'ttalk about it.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
Yeah, yeah, I remember that part, but yeah,
it's.
This is so interesting to me,just knowing how it works and
you know how you eat, because Ihear we hear ibs all the time,
but do we ever think about whatthat really is or how that works
?
So some things that can causeibs are muscle contractions in
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the intestines, your nervoussystem, like you already said,
severe infections, early lifestress and changes in the gut
microbes Somewhere.
We're going to talk about themental, emotional okay, stress,
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that's early life stress.
So people exposed to stressfulevents, especially in childhood,
tend to have more symptoms ofIBS.
So you consider this is a storythat my mom has told me, told me
many times over the years that,um, when my parents got
divorced, I didn't show anyemotion, I was just quiet and
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they thought she's just fine,she, she took it fine.
But now we know, yeah, probablynot.
There's no divorce, that's easyon a child, right, and so, um,
so that probably was my firstearliest stressor.
And then there's just life.
You know, just being a teenageris, so can be so stressful.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
I hear kids, of kids having stomach aches.
You hear this kind of stuff alot and I very often will ask
what's been going on in life,because a lot of times kids do
just cope.
Our bodies are very smart, ouremotions are, it's just guarded
right.
They survive, they just do whatthey got to do and this stuff
comes out though a different way.
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And if you think about the wayyour stress level can affect
your nervous system, which isyour regulator right Of your
body, so your emotions affectyour nervous system and if
that's a big part of somepeople's IBS, that would make
sense, that it would presentthat way.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
You know.
And then now we know so muchabout the vagus nerve that we
didn't you know.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
And then now we know so much about the vagus nerve
that we didn't Right so prettyslow before I mean this whole
domino Right, we can follow yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
So we don't get stressed out while we're
learning about these things.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
Well, this is a perfect example Well, there's a
lot of them, but of why.
And when we talk about leakygut, same thing.
These are.
These are topics that can throwyou down some really deep
rabbit holes of trying to findwhere did it start, why, if it's
gut microbiomes, what do I takefor that?
What do I do to fix theetiology?
Speaker 2 (11:52):
And this is why I love homeopathy, because we
don't even have to know whereevery day they work I say that
every day on the free 15 minutephone calls.
Most people are trying tofigure out the etiology and
what's wrong, what caused thisand what's happening.
I'm like this is why I lovehomeopathy.
I don't have to know, and forsome people that's like what I
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don't, but I want to know.
Okay, yeah, I don't have toknow if I can, and I think
sometimes it can still treat the.
The cool thing about theremedies is they are treating
the root cause, even if we don'tknow what exactly that is
Exactly, but a lot of peoplejust want to know anyway, and
I've I've settled in my mind Idon't have to know if I can
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address that symptom and feelbetter and know that I'm getting
to the root cause anyway.
So this is why I don't know ifI've ever had whatever.
I don't know you know, certainwell, covid, I don't know if
I've ever had COVID, probably,but I don't know Cause.
Then I got tested and I'm justwe're addressing the presenting
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symptoms.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
And very often I feel like I see the link.
As somebody physically getswell or we start remedies, the
triggers, or that where it comesfrom, does start to become more
apparent.
True, where, instead of beingdisrupted all the time, they can
clearly see.
Oh, it's when I had a reallystressful exam coming up, or a
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work, a stressor that seems totrigger my IBS or you know,
after a sickness this lasts areally long time two months.
For two months I'm my stomach'supset.
So I do think those things.
As you move forward withremedies, it becomes clearer.
Sometimes, not all the time,sometimes it just gets better,
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and then that's, that's all.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
Okay.
So I got a tangent there.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
I love it.
No, I love it the conversations.
It's so helpful.
Do you want to talk about thetriggers?
Speaker 1 (14:00):
Sure, yeah, triggers.
So the symptoms of IBS can betriggered by many things.
Some of them we've alreadytalked about, but the couple
primary ones are food, um thatthe role of food allergies or
intolerance in IBS is not fullyunderstood.
(14:20):
Sometimes a true food allergyor, I'm sorry, a true food
allergy rarely causes IBS, butmany people do have worse
symptoms when they eat certainfoods or drink certain things.
Um, obviously, I think the oneswe hear a lot are gluten and
dairy, um, citrus fruits,carbonated drinks, um other
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things that are just difficultfor digestion, and then stress.
So most people do have worse ormore frequent symptoms during
periods of time with increasedstress.
So, um, I thought this is allinteresting because it is
functional and they don't knowwhat causes it.
It may, the stress might makesymptoms worse, but doesn't
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always cause the symptoms, ifthat makes sense, like they're
there anyway, but they're worsewhen you're stressed.
Yeah, you're more likely tosuffer from IBS if you're under
50, a female and have a familyhistory or mental health issues.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
Yep.
So that mental health piece isgoing to be a common and a
really, I guess I could say,strong theme throughout these
remedies that we're going totalk about, these remedies that
are big for IBS have big mentalemotional pictures, and so we
know in homeopathy that when wethat it homeopathy shines in the
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mental emotional piece of yourhealth, mental emotional
conditions is my favorite kindof case to work on, and not
because it's easy, but becauseit it's clear.
It's more clear to me probably,like eczema is to you.
You can see right how thingsare getting better.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
You do see, in places where I cannot find a good
remedy, you do see the mental,emotional remedies very well.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
Yeah, thank you for that.
So Argentinit Argentum Nitricumis silver nitrate and this
remedy has a big mentalemotional picture which is often
indicated in people with IBS.
So it has a lot of anxiety,anticipation, fears and
trembling.
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They have a great desire forsweets, which negatively affects
the gut.
These people are nervous,impulsive and hurried, yet timid
and anxious.
They can have panic and anxietyattacks, anticipation,
apprehension and fear when goingto the doctor, dentist or other
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new places.
Argentum nitricum modalities areworse at night, worse for sugar
, worse on the left side, worsebefore and during menses, better
from open fresh air, better forcold air and cold baths, better
for motion and then the gut.
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Health issues of ArgentumNitricum include diarrhea from
emotions or anticipation andafter any emotion, with
flatulence.
Nervous diarrhea after sugarmotion with flatulence, nervous
diarrhea after sugarconstipation alternating with
diarrhea, belching flatulence,painful swelling of the stomach
(17:46):
and enormous distentionalteration with radiating pain,
nausea, retching, vomiting andviolent colicky pains, and their
stools might have a shreddedappearance with mucus turning
green like chopped spinach,watery and very offensive.
So that's Argentum Nitricum,silver nitrate.
(18:08):
I think that's going to be oneof the top choices, especially
when the mental emotional fits.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
That was going to be.
My next question was as we talkthrough these remedies, did you
put them in order of how youwould rank them, or are they
just in any order?
Speaker 2 (18:28):
Actually I didn't mean to, but it looks like, yes,
they are in order.
So do you want to talk aboutIgnatia?
Speaker 1 (18:37):
Sure, okay, ignatia Amara, one of my favorite
remedies and we mentioned it inthe beginning.
It can do a lot of things, butspecifically for IBS, um, just
like Argentum, nitricum has abig mental emotional picture
which I think you're going tosee when taking care of IBS that
that sounds like it's a hugeelement of it, of treatment.
(18:59):
Ignatia is the queen of worry.
These people worry themselvesinto IBS.
Their symptoms they can havesuppressed or deep grief,
sobbing sadness or deep grief,sobbing sadness, sighing, often
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emotional shock anddisappointment disorders of the
mind.
They may be really unhappypeople who can't sleep.
They are worse for consolation,very oversensitive and nervous,
constantly frustrated,quarrelsome.
They're internally conflicted,very highly emotional and moody.
So joking, they'll go fromhaving a great time joking,
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laughing, to changing and beingsad and tearful.
Ignatia has OCD.
Ignatia has OCD, the fear ofbeing hurt and disappointed.
They're very idealistic,sentimental and romantic.
They might be jealous fromdisappointing love or homesick.
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Ignatia physically, the abdomenmay have spasms and cramps with
flatulence and colic, worse atnight, worse for coffee and
sweets, fullness of theirabdomen and distension causing
an inability to breathe.
And that might not be literallycan't breathe, but I have heard
that where they like can't takea breath or they feel like they
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can't.
The gut picture of Ignatiaincludes constipation diarrhea
alternating with constipation,painful constriction of the anus
after stool, hemorrhoids,sinking feeling in the stomach
or an empty feeling or tremblingin the stomach.
There will be flatulence,hunger with nausea,
(20:57):
regurgitation of food, and thestools can look like they have
all kinds of colors and mucus.
They can also be large and softbut pass with difficulty.
So some overlap there, butthere are there are some other
(21:17):
specific ones there that youshould be able to differentiate
well.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
Yeah, I think it's the I think it's the worry.
Did ArgentNet have a lot ofworry?
They had a lot of fears.
Yes, yeah, argentinian had alot of anticipation,
anticipation yeah, and, and thenIgnatia has a lot of worry.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
I was saying Argentinian had like that
hurried.
Like I picture somebody who islike um internally, like humming
, like they're worried aboutwhat's going to come.
Not worried but like fearful ofwhat's going to come.
Yeah, um Nervous people, andthen Ignatia is like worry and
yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
Huh.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
It reminds me of Eeyore.
I know there are other remediesthat can be Eeyore, but Ignatia
sounds kind of like Eeyore fromWinnie the Pooh Eeyore.
I was like what is she saying?
The word wasn't growing beauty,you know, the little, the
little.
He's like sighing andeverything.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
Yeah, mm, hmm, mm, hmm.
Um, yeah, I love Ignatia and Ilove like a podium.
Like a podium is amazing.
It's a huge remedy.
Um, it's club moss and it'sanother fantastic one for the
mental emotional conditions.
Um, so, as, as well as guthealth.
(22:46):
So it, like a podium, is a biggut health remedy and a big
mental emotional remedy.
So the mental picture of like apodium includes a weak memory,
confusion, dyslexia, difficultconcentration, indecisive, timid
, low self-confidence, poorself-esteem.
They also have someanticipation, which is averse to
(23:10):
undertaking new things, yetthey go through it with ease.
So you think of the personthat's so scared to go on for
that dance recital, yet they getup there and do amazing and you
would never know they werenervous about it and they're.
You know they're finished andlike, oh my gosh, you almost
died, but what you did so good.
You know some people you cantell they're really nervous, but
(23:31):
these, like a podium, you can'teven tell they're nervous.
They can have great anxiety inthe pit of the stomach, anxiety
inside of their house, so theymight feel more anxious in their
home.
They might feel more anxiouswith company during stormy
weather, while walking in theopen air.
(23:52):
They can have panic attackswith fear of failure, public
speaking and stage fright.
They have a fear of being alone.
They can awake irritable andangry, sad and anxious, and they
can be domineering and have alove for power.
(24:14):
So the gut health picture oflycopodium includes bloating,
food allergies, flatulence, fulland bloated immediately after
eating I hear this all the timeRight when they finish eating,
they're so full and bloated.
When that happens to me, whichis very rare anymore, I still
will take lycopodium only asneeded.
(24:35):
So I used to need like a podiumregularly, but now, on the rare
occasion that I get bloated,I'll just take a one dose of
like a podium.
And so this is where we'regetting to in our homeopathy
journey and our health journeyis you get to where you don't
need a remedy on a schedule, butyou get you to where you just
(24:59):
take a remedy when you have asymptom that you need or want to
take care of.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
Okay, Remind me to circle back to that when you
finish like a podium, because Iwant your thoughts on that the
chronically moving from likeregularly scheduled chronics to
here and there.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
Okay, okay, oh okay.
So, yes, diabetes, weak liverand poor digestion liver painful
to pressure and spots, jaundicewith flatulence, violent
gallstone, colic.
Stools can be hard anddifficult, small and incomplete.
They can be pale, putrid, thinand brown.
(25:39):
They can be mixed with hardlumps.
That's like a podium and I love, love, love, love, love, love
like a podium.
30 or 200 are great choices.
I mean, of course you go 6C or12C, of course you definitely
can.
I just I don't.
Usually I go 30 or 200.
So what were you going to say?
Speaker 1 (26:01):
Yeah, my question.
This is just like aphilosophical maybe or whatever,
just good discussion.
I've been thinking through howyou were saying you use this
here and there when you need it,and you and I have talked about
this before, where this is howmy mind thinks through If we're,
homeopathy uproots conditions,it can be curative and you're no
(26:22):
longer dealing with a conditionand so like just talking
through that and why people maystill need this remedy right
here and there if you'resupposed to be cured.
And my mind thinks through thisas you go from having a
condition right when, like we'vetalked a lot about how a
(26:42):
healthy body is not neversymptomatic but that's having a
symptom present does not meanyou have a chronic condition and
so we don't need remedies tofix every tiny little thing.
But when our body is stuck in acycle that creates these
conditions, the remedies helpbreak out and move through it
(27:04):
all the way to the end.
So am I understanding thatcorrectly, where remedies uproot
that cyclical condition, butthat doesn't mean you may never
have that symptom present againfor the rest of your life?
Speaker 2 (27:17):
I agree with that.
So you know when, on the rareoccasion that I do get bloated,
it's because I chose to eatsomething that I don't normally
eat, or too much.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
Which makes sense, right?
Like your body even a healthybody doesn't like those things.
And so let's say you didn'ttake a remedy.
Your body would move throughand feel better in a day.
Maybe I don't I don't know thatit would be more than a day,
but it's more comfortable if youtake a remedy, right?
Speaker 2 (27:53):
so, yeah, if I take like a podium, it's's, you know,
it's minutes and I'm, I feelbetter, I'm like, ooh, okay, so
um and uh, you know, bloatingcan be really uncomfortable
really, especially if you're outsomewhere, you're not even at
home, or you can just unbuttonyour pants.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
Yeah, amen.
Speaker 2 (28:14):
It can be so uncomfortable.
So I'm, you know, I'm looking,I'm taking it for comfort but
also, at the same time, it isstrengthening that system.
So you know, when I say um, atesomething that I don't normally
eat, I think you all know Idon't.
I don't completely agree withcutting out whole food groups,
(28:35):
but I think all of this is why Idon't guide people on nutrition
, because I think everybody's sodifferent.
Every body is so different, orat least somewhat different,
different enough that, while Imight be able to eat tomatoes
(28:55):
you know you are okay, let'sjust take the.
Do you know what I figured out?
Bree from the um, the guacamolefrom the retreat it was
leftover, it was two or threedays old the histamine it was
the histamine.
I know that.
I just figured that out.
So I made me and Grace madefresh guacamole and remember I
(29:17):
was saying I don't know,sometimes avocado makes my
stomach hurt and sometimes itdoesn't.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
It was leftover.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
Okay, right.
Speaker 1 (29:29):
I mean, I don't eat leftover guacamole because it's
brown.
So that was not brown.
No, it wasn't brown.
No.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
No, it wasn't, but it was still a couple of days old.
Speaker 1 (29:42):
Okay, yeah, okay, we're going to have to come back
to this because I want to talkabout histamine, next podcast.
So we're going to do this.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
Well, mcas, so we're going to talk about mast cell,
and so that's histamine, allright, um, so that's the point,
though.
Right, because four of us couldsit there at the retreat and
eat, eat guacamole, and only oneof us gets a stomach ache.
And it's not because I'mallergic to guacamole or avocado
(30:10):
.
It was, uh, my, there wassomething about that, right, and
I think it was the histaminethat my body just didn't agree
with at that moment or deal with, well, and so you take a remedy
, right.
So I don't have a condition, Idon't have mast cell activation
syndrome, you know.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
I still stand by my own, whatever.
I am not like an amateurresearcher, but just my
observations of people.
And I do think different peopleunder stress or presented with
a different scenario respond.
They have like a way that theirbody communicates that some
(30:49):
people it's on their skin rightaway, some people it's in their
gut right away.
My husband gets he'll startgetting heartburn again if he
has a lot of work stress and hedoesn't even realize what's
going on.
But I just think certain peoplepresent a way.
But I don't believe that Iwouldn't say to anyone that he
(31:09):
suffers from chronic indigestionall the time anymore.
But you know, I don't know whatthat is exactly, but I do think
I different bodies, healthypeople, still their our bodies
communicate when we're like notright.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
So there's a weakness .
There's a weakness in everyperson, something that's weaker
than other systems, and whenthere's stress, it's going to
attack that weakest part and forme it's it's it's gut.
Speaker 1 (31:36):
I've had gut issues since I was five, or born, or
whatever you know Now, do youthink those could be totally
uprooted at some point with,like really deep treatment?
I mean, would it just take solong in our life because we
started so like we didn't dothis as children, right?
Speaker 2 (31:51):
I absolutely believe gut issues can be uprooted
Absolutely, and so you know,having a nice clean diet and
minimal stress and you knowtaking good homeopathic remedies
, but especially well you knowthe just getting ready for the
retreat and being there, thatwas just an added stressor and
(32:16):
you know for me.
But so I don't believe that Istill have IBS, I just believe
there's a weakness there.
So when something comes, whenstressors come, I'm going to
feel it.
That's where I'm going to feelit.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (32:31):
Right, and then mine just presents differently, like
everybody's or not everybody,but you know they are like
different ways that thosepresent.
Okay, yeah, all right, greatyeah.
Speaker 2 (32:42):
So I want to just point out there is a Banerjee
protocol for IBS, but I, Iwouldn't, I, I don't recommend
it.
Well, I wouldn't recommendusing it without being under the
care of a homeopath.
So, under the care of ahomeopath.
Yes, under the care of ahomeopath.
Yes, it's a Banerjee protocol,it's in their original book.
It's in their original book, soit's proven.
(33:06):
But it includes tuberculinum, adaily dose, and I have seen too
many aggravations on tuberculin.
Um, I never start withtuberculin daily and not 200
because of the amount ofaggravations that I've seen.
(33:28):
So if you're going to do theBanerjee protocol, I would say,
do that under the care of ahomeopath who can guide you and
and look at things.
Speaker 1 (33:36):
Now I like yep Yep Umuxfamica, I like Yep Yep
Tuberculin.
I agree totally.
That is one that is interestingto me.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
So okay, you want to tell them when do they need to
seek professional help?
Speaker 1 (33:54):
Well, whenever you think you need to no, I'm
kidding Um see a healthcareprofessional If you have
persistent change in bowelhabits or other symptoms of IBS.
So you just want to rule outother serious conditions,
because there are some seriousthings that you need to be
treated.
Um.
So really significant ones youshould pay more attention to are
(34:17):
weight loss, diarrhea at nightI'm assuming that means because
you're not eating and stillhaving diarrhea.
I don't know why.
I don't know why that's listedthere Rectal bleeding, iron
deficiency, anemia, unexplainedvomiting and pain that is not
relieved by passing gas or stool.
Speaker 2 (34:35):
A couple of those I'd be like, yeah, I'm not going to
a doctor for but Well, maybenot the first, I guess.
Speaker 1 (34:41):
if it's persistent right, If you're not ever
getting better, even withremedies, right.
Speaker 2 (34:46):
But rectal bleeding, yeah, you better receive
Unexplained vomiting.
I'd probably still take aremedy.
I'd be taking China.
Speaker 1 (34:56):
Right, and I think we would try remedies first for a
lot of these things.
Speaker 2 (35:06):
Right, yeah, yeah, absolutely All right.
Let's talk about leaky gut.
So, um, the information that Igrabbed about leaky gut and what
it is, I got from Dr Josh Axe,his website, and because I
really like his information, doyou want?
Speaker 1 (35:24):
to read about what leaky gut is.
Yeah, tell us what leaky gut is?
Okay.
So this is again Dr Josh Axe.
He says leaky gut syndrome isconsidered a hypothetical health
condition and currently has yetto be formally recognized as a
medical diagnosis.
However, the concept ofincreased intestinal
permeability, aka leaky gut,that occurs in some
(35:48):
gastrointestinal diseases isgaining renewed attention from
both the medical and naturalhealth community.
Many people exhibit poor dietchoices, chronic stress, toxic
overload and bacterial imbalance, which are also considered
triggers for leaky gut.
Why should it concern you?
(36:09):
Studies recently haveconsidered leaky gut a
quote-unquote danger signal forautoimmune disease.
What happens if you have it?
Do you want me to keep going?
What happens if you have it?
Do you want me to keep going?
Okay, the intestines areprotected by a single layer of
(36:34):
specialized epithelial cellsthat are linked together by
tight junction proteins.
So you might want to go backand listen to that again.
Just rewind me 10 seconds.
There's a lining.
I remember reading about this,like years ago.
Like what in the world am Isaying?
So there's a lining that'sreally tightly linked together,
the cells that are tight andthey're creating a barrier as
(36:54):
one.
This is now back quoting Dr Axe.
As one 2020 review explains,leaky gut symptoms are a
consequence of intestinal tightjunction malfunction, so they're
not holding tight together.
I'm adding some of my words inhere, so just know that I'm not
quoting him all directly.
Speaker 2 (37:12):
Yeah, so it's literally leaky.
The lining is literally leakingproteins out into your blood,
into your system.
Yes, so it goes.
Speaker 1 (37:21):
What I didn't understand back in the day, when
, before I started reallylearning about this, is that
that stuff goes directly intoyour system.
Yes, so it goes.
What I didn't understand backin the day, when before I
started really learning aboutthis, is that that stuff goes
directly into your bloodstream.
Yeah, and that is so.
That's where those things thatare being released there aren't.
It's fine to go through yourintestines because there's the
lining.
It's getting rid of that junkbut your blood is not supposed
(37:43):
to have those things in it andthat's why it creates that, all
those symptomatic responses thatwe hear about.
I picture these little dudeslike link in their arms, like
hold it really tight, you know,and then they get spread apart
because they're weak and stuffgoes through them like red Rover
, but they're not doing it.
Love it.
(38:06):
Do you want to do symptoms oryou want me to go and you do
remedies?
Speaker 2 (38:10):
Well, there's not much about remedies, so I'll do
yeah, Okay.
So these tight junctionproteins are the gateway between
your intestines and yourbloodstream.
We already talked about that.
So more than 40 different tightjunction proteins have now been
recognized to play a role ingut health.
So the potential symptoms ofleaky gut are gastric ulcers,
(38:32):
joint pain, infectious diarrhea,IBS, IBD, which is inflammatory
bowel disease like Crohn's orulcerative colitis, SIBO, which
is small intestinal or smallintestine, bacterial overgrowth,
celiac disease, esophageal andcolorectal cancer, allergies,
(38:56):
respiratory infections, acuteinflammation conditions like
sepsis, SERS, multiple organfailure, chronic inflammatory
conditions like arthritis,thyroid disorders,
obesity-related metabolicdisease, diseases like fatty
liver, type 2 diabetes and heartdisease, autoimmune diseases
like lupus, multiple sclerosis,type 1 diabetes, Hashimoto's and
(39:20):
more, Parkinson's disease,chronic fatigue syndrome and the
propensity towards weight gainor obesity.
So like everything, yeah.
So if you have any, I mean ifyou have anything, you probably
have a leaky gut, I mean.
Speaker 1 (39:36):
Well and listen.
We know that so much of ourimmune system is in our gut, yep
, and if it can't do its job, Imean my understanding too, yep,
and if it can't do its job, Imean my understanding too is
that this can even cause a lotof mental, emotional picture,
because there's that gut brainlink.
Absolutely so.
These were all physicalconditions, but I'm I mean,
(39:57):
there are even studies that showanxiety like big emotional
symptoms anxiety depressionbeing probably the most common
yeah.
Speaker 2 (40:06):
Yeah, Um, so we know leaky gut might not directly
cause those conditions, but it'smore about the people who have
gut issues are more likely tohave a number of other health
problems, because all diseasebegins in the gut.
So some of the underlyingcauses of leaky gut include
(40:30):
genetic predisposition, poordiet, chronic stress, toxin
overload and bacterial imbalance.
And then what I wanted to saythe reason we're not going to go
into remedies is becausethey're basically the same as
IBS.
Reason we're not going to gointo remedies is because they're
basically the same as IBS.
So all the all the IBS remediescan be used for leaky gut.
Speaker 1 (40:56):
Um, because really, leaky gut is just a general
overview term of a more specificissue, right Like when you take
someone's case.
What I mean?
You would see all the otherpresenting symptoms, and those
remedies would then help healthe gut.
Speaker 2 (41:09):
Exactly.
If somebody comes to me andsays I have leaky gut, that
means zero, to me Nothing.
Speaker 1 (41:14):
What are your?
Speaker 2 (41:14):
symptoms.
Right, what are your symptoms?
Because obviously 10 peoplecould come with leaky gut and
have 10 different symptomspresenting, so we're going to
use the remedies that match.
Have 10 different symptomspresenting, so we're going to
use the remedies that match.
And so a lot of the it's stillgoing to be a lot of the gut and
mental, emotional remedies likean IBS, but some there are more
(41:35):
, some more great gut remediesto consider are and these are
this is where you'll write downthese remedies and read them in
your Materia Medica and decideif it's decide if it's right for
you.
So Nux, vomica, china, arsenicumAlbum, choledonium, sepia,
carboveg and Bovista, and so, inaddition to the IBS ones that
(42:00):
we already talked about.
So what we're going to do isteach a full course on IBS, ibd,
ibc, leaky gut, other gutissues, and we're going to teach
in that course the potencies,how often to use it, how to dose
(42:23):
it, case taking, casemanagement, and so we're going
to go into a lot of detail inthat course.
If you're subscribed to emails,you'll get notified when that
course is released and um,that's all we have for IBS and
leaky gut, but that's a lot.
We did a lot of it's a lot ofgood stuff.
Get it in your notes thank youfor always listening.
Speaker 1 (42:45):
Thank you, guys, for coming for the fan mail.
Speaker 2 (42:50):
Yes, you know what I meant to say.
If you want to write us somefan mail to read, there's a link
at the I think in thedescription or under the title,
somewhere in this podcastepisode.
It's not on the YouTube channel, it's in the podcast episode,
on the podcast player orplatform that you're listening,
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and there's a link that says itmight say send me a text or text
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I can't remember what it says.
Text, melissa, here I can lookat it, but you'll find it.
And no, I can't look at itright now because that'll take
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So you'll find it.
Click the link, send yourmessage and we'll read it in a
(43:32):
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