October 28, 2024 • 22 mins
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Can whooping cough be managed effectively outside of conventional medicine? Join us for a compelling episode where we uncover the reality of this alarming illness, especially through the lens of a mother’s fear and determination. Melissa shares her heart-wrenching story of her son developing whooping cough shortly after vaccination, detailing the chilling progression from mild cold symptoms to severe, uncontrollable coughing fits. We also address the limitations of traditional medical practices and open the door to alternative approaches, shedding light on how homeopathy can offer hope and relief.
Tune in to learn about specific homeopathic remedies that could make a significant difference in managing whooping cough. We discuss the benefits of Drosera for those with loose, rattly coughs and Ipecac for managing gagging and vomiting due to thick mucus. Explore the potential of Pertussin as a preventive measure and the use of various remedies for complications like pneumonia and fever. Whether you're familiar with homeopathy or seeking new ways to support your child's health, this episode provides practical advice and resources like Dr. Murphy's homeopathic repertory that can guide you through each stage of this daunting illness.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome back to Homeopathy at Home with Melissa
hey.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
Melissa, hey Brie, I'm excited to talk about a not
so exciting topic but useful forsure.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
Yeah, tonight we are going to be talking about
whooping cough, so this topic is, I think, potentially
triggering for some people, orjust something that can create a
lot of fear, especially, Ithink, more for moms of young
babies.
(00:32):
It's something that is talkedabout, at least when I had
little babies like this is themost dangerous thing to look out
for in them dangerous thing tolook out for in them.
So I'm hoping this will bereally helpful.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
I know you have a lot of remedies to talk about, so
should we just get started?
Yeah, so you know, just justtouching quickly on what the
scary part of it.
It is scary because it affectsbreathing and then when you
can't breathe you can't live,and and so, yeah, it's scary.
But you know what?
Um, I've seen homeopathy domuch more, and all the scary
(01:21):
situations or I guess I shouldsay a lot of scary situations do
a lot better job.
A much better job thanconventional medical practices.
(01:43):
And my own experience withwhooping cough was when my
oldest son I don't know he waseither one or two and I only
remember that because of wherewe lived at the time and I
remember calling an ambulancefor him in the middle of the
night Actually it was 11 pm, buthe had just gotten the whooping
cough vaccine the day or twobefore.
And then it's 11 pm, I'mgetting ready for bed and all of
(02:07):
a sudden he comes into me.
He can't breathe.
You know, he's like, and I'mlike what?
I have no idea what's happening.
This was sudden out of nowhereand, um, I call an ambulance
because I have zero idea what'seven, why my baby can't breathe,
what's happening?
So it didn't start with, likethe, you know, he's just
(02:29):
coughing.
So, anyway, we go to thehospital and I actually I mean,
this was almost 30 years ago, soit maybe he did have a cold
before and I just didn't know, Idon't know.
You know, like that was so longago.
All I know is that there was a.
(02:49):
Suddenly, there was a suddenthing that I had to call the
ambulance and he was diagnosedwith whooping cough.
But it wasn't until years later.
When I put the two thingstogether, I was like, oh, when I
started learning aboutconventional medical practices
and I and I just said, oh, youknow what, he had that vaccine.
Right before he ended he gotwhooping cough.
So it did not prevent whoopingcough for him, and so that's my
(03:12):
experience.
But what, what is whoopingcough?
How do, how would you know?
And then we don't diagnose andwe don't, you know we're not
suggesting you self-diagnose butwhat even?
What is it?
What's, what characterizes it?
What, even what is?
Speaker 1 (03:22):
it?
What characterizes it?
So whooping cough is obviouslya type of cough, but it is a
long lingering cough typicallyand a lot of times.
I think why it also can bescary is because it often starts
mild and seems just like anormal cold.
So you get normal cold symptoms.
It can develop into a cough soyou might have, like all the
(03:46):
cold stuff congestion in yournose or your eyes are bothering
you, maybe a fever and a cough.
But what sets it apart?
And this is obviously again,we're not trying to prescribe
anything or diagnose anything,but this is just typical
progression.
So, like with Chandler, for youit didn't happen that way, but a
(04:09):
lot of times it is a week ortwo later that that cough starts
to worsen and the cough sticksaround and it gets really thick.
A lot of thick mucusaccumulates in the airways and
that is what causes thatuncontrollable coughing and it
can get pretty severe and havethose long coughing attacks
(04:31):
where you can't catch yourbreath.
They may vomit from just eithercoughing so much or not being
able to breathe.
Well, they in severe cases, ifthere's not a lot of oxygen, you
might notice blue face, bluelips or red from coughing so
much, extreme fatigue, from notbeing able to breathe super well
(04:53):
.
And the whooping cough part isbecause when they breathe in
after that coughing fit you hearlike a whoop.
So I've never, my kids havenever had it.
But I can imagine the firsttime I heard a croup cough they
would describe it like a sealbarking and I I mean I'd never
(05:14):
heard that, but when I heard itI knew exactly what that was.
So I don't know, did youremember hearing that?
Speaker 2 (05:22):
Well, so that's what I was going to say.
You just described it very well.
Could have happened that way.
But again, being almost 30years ago, I don't remember.
I wasn't keeping notes backthen.
All what I remember was theurgency and the sudden, you know
, him coming to me.
I'm getting ready to go to bedand he comes to me and I'm like
you know, we're alone, byourselves.
(05:44):
I mean, I was a single mom andwe lived alone and, um, you know
, I call an ambulance.
So that's really all I rememberabout that.
He very well could have beensick.
Listen, the child was sick forthe first three years of his
life Constant ear infections,strep, throat, antibiotics.
You know, if you've ever heardany of my story, you know it was
because he was so sick and wewere constantly going to the
(06:07):
doctor and he was constantlygetting antibiotics.
Then he got this GI conditionand then that's what started me
in homeopathy, when I left thedoctor's office and she said, oh
here, just give him thismedicine indefinitely.
And I was like Somethingdoesn't feel right.
So I went and startedresearching.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
Yeah, so I did see, though too, not not everybody
gets that whoop Like, so I thinkalso people will wait for that
big like it becoming veryobvious, kind of like croup you.
It becomes kind of obvious, butsometimes it's just a cough for
a long time and you don't evennotice that it's gotten so um,
(06:50):
junky I guess, like in theirlungs, and it's obvious.
It's spread pretty easily, justlike a lot of other things.
So droplets.
So if somebody coughs orsneezes or you touch something
at the store that somebody'stouched, I mean it's spread like
most coughs, and I think that'salso.
And people that is somethingprescribed or not prescribed but
(07:14):
recommended during pregnancythe DTaP vaccine is encouraged
because they want your baby tobe protected from that when
they're born.
Infants are the most at riskbecause their bronchioles are so
small, and so that is.
(07:36):
Those are the things you hear,and I'm saying it that way
because that is what you hearand not that none of this is
dangerous.
But I'm saying that because I myjourney to homeopathy was very
similar, similar in my mind.
I didn't have all the stuffthat you had to walk through
with your oldest, but it becamewhere I just there was not
answers for these things otherthan just more medication, and I
(08:02):
had seen that not work for myfamily before, um, with croup
for my oldest, but um, what feltreally empowering to me was
learning about these things.
And then, how?
What can I do to take care ofthis if we were to get it at
home?
And that's where I startedlearning homeopathy.
(08:24):
I learned other things at thetime too, within like the
natural realm, but luckily we'venever had to deal with it.
Um, now, though, I would not beworried at all.
The freedom that comes fromknowing I have I'm equipped to
take care of these things is thebiggest gift I think homeopathy
has brought my life.
Like, I'm not scared of any ofthese things.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
So, that said, yep, I agree, that's that I was
telling my daughter the otherday, um, what happened.
I had, like I had a suddenstomach ache or something, and I
was like I texted, um, I textedthe family chat or just the
kids, and said I'm going to laydown, nobody wake me up.
(09:07):
And then she was like later um,she was asking me what, what
happened, what's wrong?
I was like I don't know.
But you know, I knew, and whatI said to her next is this is
why I love homeopathy.
I had the tools in my hand.
I knew that that CarboVeg wasgoing to work, it's just going
(09:28):
to take a little bit of time.
And so I didn't have any fearor worry over that, where years
ago, before homeopathy, I wouldhave absolutely been worried
about oh my gosh, what's comingnext, what's going to happen,
what's?
You know what's going to.
And no, and I don't do any ofthat anymore so, um, yeah, so I,
you know, I want to start withthe way um, whooping cough
(09:51):
starts is it looks like just acold.
So you don't know, and so sothat's the again, the beauty of
homeopathy.
You just address the symptomsthat are presenting.
If it looks like a cold, takecold, calm.
You know, if you've got alittle cough, take the little
remedy that that matches thelittle cough.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
I was going to say that I want.
I mean, there's literally noway for us to know without
everyone getting diagnosed.
But I wonder how oftenhomeopathy takes care of these
things so early on that wewouldn't.
It wouldn't get to the pointwhere you would even know you
had whooping cough.
Exactly, exactly that I it'sfunny that you said that.
(10:28):
I thought that as soon asyou're about to say that you
have a little cough, you treatthe little cough, yeah, whatever
it is, whatever the symptomsare.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
So I don't even have to know, um, and using
homeopathy, that it's calledwhooping cough.
So we don't, I don't have todiagnose.
Um, you know, and you don'thave to, you don't have to know
it's whooping cough.
So here's the remedy Um, it's,you know.
You can use the symptoms thatBree just described and if
(10:57):
you're matching those symptoms,these remedies are going to
match those symptoms, no matterwhat it's called.
So Drosera is number one forwhooping cough.
And remember, these remediesare spelled in the blog, on my
blog, on my website, and soDrosera has you would know to
(11:20):
use.
Well, first of all, it's numberone for whooping cough, but
then you would know to use umDrosera if it's a loose, rattly
cough with yellow mucus.
Um, the voice is deep andhoarse, there's pain in the
chest, underneath the ribs, theymight vomit from too much mucus
, and worse at night, worse forsinging or talking.
(11:43):
So I really like Drosera.
30 or 200.
It's probably, you know, Iwould use one of those potencies
30 C or 200 C.
Drosera can also be taken.
So, let's say, somebody in yourfamily has whooping cough, the
rest of everybody else in thefamily can take a dose of
Drosera to help strengthen theirimmune system and help them you
(12:05):
know, possibly probably not getit Ipecac Ipecac is also a big
whooping cough remedy andbecause it's remember, ipecac is
also a big whooping coughremedy and because, remember,
ipecac is the nag and gag, so isthere a lot of gagging with
whooping cough, I think did yousay that?
Speaker 1 (12:22):
Yeah, it can become that and even vomiting, because
the mucus is so thick that youcough and cough and cough until
you throw up.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
Yep, so yep, vomiting from too much mucus is in
Ipecac, choking and gagging onmucus, bringing up white, thick
mucus, and they might even get anosebleed with the cough.
So, um, ipecac, drosera, and um, oh, here's just a little note
(12:56):
in my notes.
I'll read to you If you have anongoing cough, or you know
someone who has a cough thatthey just can't seem to shift,
then it may be the whoopingcough, sometimes coined the
100-day cough, and so cases arebecoming increasingly common in
England and Wales.
And blah, blah, blah.
So we have homeopathy Pertussin.
(13:17):
Pertussin is a remedy,pertussin 30C, and it is made
from the potentized whoopingcough.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
Yeah, the bacteria is Bordetella pertussis, so that's
a no-sode made from that.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
Yeah, and so Pertussin I actually just get.
I made a little kit for afriend of mine and I gave her a
little thing of Pertussin andshe was like no, and she was
writing down what each remedywas for and I said you'll
probably never need this, but Iwanted you to have it on hand in
(13:59):
case you do need it.
And so Pertussin 30C canshorten the duration and reduce
the intensity of whooping cough.
You can use it alongside thebest match remedy that we talked
about already, or one thatwe're going to talk about, and
it can also be used to helpstrengthen your immune system if
(14:22):
you've been exposed or you know, if you have other people in
your family or you've been, yeah, closely, closely exposed.
I would say you could, youcould take Pertussin.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
I have a question about that from just knowing the
principle of homeopathy, thelaw of similars, right that we
use similar, and there I haveseen a few cases where the
no-sode of that thing can berecommended to use during an
outbreak or during an episode,if you want to call it that.
(14:53):
I mean just your personalthoughts on that, like if
pertussis or pertussin is thewhooping cough potentized when
you have whooping cough, thatdoesn't match the law of
similars, that's what do youcall it Isopathy?
Speaker 2 (15:08):
Isopathy Yep.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
And that still can work.
Yep, yeah, isopathy works.
Isopathy is a method ofhomeopathy, but or well, well, a
method of, of practice andwithin the homeopathy,
homeopathic um world.
But that's right, isopathymeans same, so you're taking the
same, just like if you were toget stung by a bee, a honeybee,
(15:32):
and you take apis.
That's isopathy.
That's not even homeopathy, butit still works.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
Yeah Okay.
Um, I it still works.
Yeah Okay, I anticipated thatquestion.
So that's have you ever givenanyone else Pertussin?
Speaker 2 (15:45):
No, I get actually.
Yes, I did so.
Last year there was a littlewhooping cough scare and a place
that we frequent I'm not goingto give details and and there
was a family that was greatlyaffected.
But then there was anotherfamily that was directly, you
(16:07):
know, in contact with them andso they quarantine, they did all
the things that the healthdepartment told them to do and I
gave that that family Pertussinand I I believe that they did
use it, you know, once, maybeone dose or two doses, just to
be safe, and nothing ever cameup, they never got sick.
Okay, Okay.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
So I did want to ask a couple other, let's say like
follow-up questions to that.
Let's say, somebody haswhooping cough and it develops
into pneumonia, what are maybesome other remedies that might
not be just for whooping coughbut to have on hand, for I know?
We've talked about it in otherpodcasts but if it develops into
pneumonia or you get a fever,how do you think you would
(16:54):
address that if it was latestage?
Speaker 2 (16:56):
Yeah, pneumonia antimonium tart is number one
for pneumonia Bladder, I thinkis great Fever.
You know, it could bebelladonna or aconite or
chamomilla.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
Okay, good, I like to think through that for people
who I mean, maybe if somethingchanges and you need something
else, okay, I'll go backwards.
Then let's say, often in anacute, even though this is like
a longer acute, is there, Iguess, two questions.
One is there a chance maybe aperson with whooping cough would
(17:31):
need Drosera for several weeks,or would you, I guess?
I don't know if there's, Ihaven't ever had anyone I know
have it.
Is that something you've seen,or does it usually help within a
shorter period of time?
Speaker 2 (17:45):
I have not seen it, I actually.
So most of the people that Ihelp or that come to me for help
don't get diagnosed.
So I don't know.
You know they might come to meand say it sounds like a
whooping cough, but yes, so youcan use these remedies longer
term.
I don't know, you know theymight come to me and say it
sounds like a whooping cough,but yes, so you can use these
remedies longer term.
But if it, if it's becomingmore chronic like that, you
(18:06):
might.
You're not going to use itevery three hours for weeks.
Then it might be just twice perday, or but yeah, the cough
coughs can hang on, and then youjust keep using the remedy
that's actually working right.
If it's not working, you changeand then if it starts, if it
becomes to just be a lingeringthing with no end in sight, then
(18:27):
sulfur 30C is a great remedy totry.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
Yeah, okay.
And then one more question.
Let's say, with a cough I don'tknow if this is typical with
homeopathy and whooping coughspecifically, but let's say, a
lot of coughs start like reallydeep in the chest.
And so you are, you know you'retaking Drosera Ipecac.
What if they start?
It changes as they, excuse me,as they're getting better,
(18:52):
either turns maybe into a driercough at the end.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
Would you change from that then?
Speaker 2 (18:59):
You, you follow the symptoms you could, yeah, so you
know.
Yeah, we know Bryonia is a drycough and then we have the whole
coughs podcast that we did, soyou could always go there, but
as long as it's presenting likewhooping cough, these are going
to be your main remedies.
Yeah, um, dulcamara is anotherone that I always forget about.
(19:20):
I pretty much never usedDulcamara, just because I forget
about it, not because it's notgood, and, um, you know, you
could read it.
Oh, I did want to say too, foranybody who, if you know these
remedies aren't working or youneed more ideas, you've already
tried these and you know.
Here you are, your, yourrepertory, so your homeopathic
repertory.
So, if you have the fourthedition of Dr Murphy's matter
(19:48):
repertory, then on page 2537,there is whooping cough and
you'll see a lot of remedieslisted, a lot.
It even goes to the next page.
So you'll take the top ones oryou'll look for the sub rubrics
(20:09):
that match and you'll take thetop ones, read them in your
Materia Medica, see which onefits the best.
And if you need more help andmore guidance and learning how
to do this, come to thementorship program.
Um, these we have coachingcalls where we, where we can
really practice this and getgood at this yeah, awesome thank
(20:31):
you, thanks for being here.
That's whooping cough and I hopeyou never ever get it amen but
we have the tools if we do, yep.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
Thank you.
Welcome back to Homeopathy at Home with Melissa
hey.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
Melissa, hey Brie, I'm excited to talk about a not
so exciting topic but useful forsure.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
Yeah, tonight we are going to be talking about
whooping cough, so this topic is, I think, potentially
triggering for some people, orjust something that can create a
lot of fear, especially, Ithink, more for moms of young
babies.
(00:32):
It's something that is talkedabout, at least when I had
little babies like this is themost dangerous thing to look out
for in them dangerous thing tolook out for in them.
So I'm hoping this will bereally helpful.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
I know you have a lot of remedies to talk about, so
should we just get started?
Yeah, so you know, just justtouching quickly on what the
scary part of it.
It is scary because it affectsbreathing and then when you
can't breathe you can't live,and and so, yeah, it's scary.
But you know what?
Um, I've seen homeopathy domuch more, and all the scary
(01:21):
situations or I guess I shouldsay a lot of scary situations do
a lot better job.
A much better job thanconventional medical practices.
(01:43):
And my own experience withwhooping cough was when my
oldest son I don't know he waseither one or two and I only
remember that because of wherewe lived at the time and I
remember calling an ambulancefor him in the middle of the
night Actually it was 11 pm, buthe had just gotten the whooping
cough vaccine the day or twobefore.
And then it's 11 pm, I'mgetting ready for bed and all of
(02:07):
a sudden he comes into me.
He can't breathe.
You know, he's like, and I'mlike what?
I have no idea what's happening.
This was sudden out of nowhereand, um, I call an ambulance
because I have zero idea what'seven, why my baby can't breathe,
what's happening?
So it didn't start with, likethe, you know, he's just
(02:29):
coughing.
So, anyway, we go to thehospital and I actually I mean,
this was almost 30 years ago, soit maybe he did have a cold
before and I just didn't know, Idon't know.
You know, like that was so longago.
All I know is that there was a.
(02:49):
Suddenly, there was a suddenthing that I had to call the
ambulance and he was diagnosedwith whooping cough.
But it wasn't until years later.
When I put the two thingstogether, I was like, oh, when I
started learning aboutconventional medical practices
and I and I just said, oh, youknow what, he had that vaccine.
Right before he ended he gotwhooping cough.
So it did not prevent whoopingcough for him, and so that's my
(03:12):
experience.
But what, what is whoopingcough?
How do, how would you know?
And then we don't diagnose andwe don't, you know we're not
suggesting you self-diagnose butwhat even?
What is it?
What's, what characterizes it?
What, even what is?
Speaker 1 (03:22):
it?
What characterizes it?
So whooping cough is obviouslya type of cough, but it is a
long lingering cough typicallyand a lot of times.
I think why it also can bescary is because it often starts
mild and seems just like anormal cold.
So you get normal cold symptoms.
It can develop into a cough soyou might have, like all the
(03:46):
cold stuff congestion in yournose or your eyes are bothering
you, maybe a fever and a cough.
But what sets it apart?
And this is obviously again,we're not trying to prescribe
anything or diagnose anything,but this is just typical
progression.
So, like with Chandler, for youit didn't happen that way, but a
(04:09):
lot of times it is a week ortwo later that that cough starts
to worsen and the cough sticksaround and it gets really thick.
A lot of thick mucusaccumulates in the airways and
that is what causes thatuncontrollable coughing and it
can get pretty severe and havethose long coughing attacks
(04:31):
where you can't catch yourbreath.
They may vomit from just eithercoughing so much or not being
able to breathe.
Well, they in severe cases, ifthere's not a lot of oxygen, you
might notice blue face, bluelips or red from coughing so
much, extreme fatigue, from notbeing able to breathe super well
(04:53):
.
And the whooping cough part isbecause when they breathe in
after that coughing fit you hearlike a whoop.
So I've never, my kids havenever had it.
But I can imagine the firsttime I heard a croup cough they
would describe it like a sealbarking and I I mean I'd never
(05:14):
heard that, but when I heard itI knew exactly what that was.
So I don't know, did youremember hearing that?
Speaker 2 (05:22):
Well, so that's what I was going to say.
You just described it very well.
Could have happened that way.
But again, being almost 30years ago, I don't remember.
I wasn't keeping notes backthen.
All what I remember was theurgency and the sudden, you know
, him coming to me.
I'm getting ready to go to bedand he comes to me and I'm like
you know, we're alone, byourselves.
(05:44):
I mean, I was a single mom andwe lived alone and, um, you know
, I call an ambulance.
So that's really all I rememberabout that.
He very well could have beensick.
Listen, the child was sick forthe first three years of his
life Constant ear infections,strep, throat, antibiotics.
You know, if you've ever heardany of my story, you know it was
because he was so sick and wewere constantly going to the
(06:07):
doctor and he was constantlygetting antibiotics.
Then he got this GI conditionand then that's what started me
in homeopathy, when I left thedoctor's office and she said, oh
here, just give him thismedicine indefinitely.
And I was like Somethingdoesn't feel right.
So I went and startedresearching.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
Yeah, so I did see, though too, not not everybody
gets that whoop Like, so I thinkalso people will wait for that
big like it becoming veryobvious, kind of like croup you.
It becomes kind of obvious, butsometimes it's just a cough for
a long time and you don't evennotice that it's gotten so um,
(06:50):
junky I guess, like in theirlungs, and it's obvious.
It's spread pretty easily, justlike a lot of other things.
So droplets.
So if somebody coughs orsneezes or you touch something
at the store that somebody'stouched, I mean it's spread like
most coughs, and I think that'salso.
And people that is somethingprescribed or not prescribed but
(07:14):
recommended during pregnancythe DTaP vaccine is encouraged
because they want your baby tobe protected from that when
they're born.
Infants are the most at riskbecause their bronchioles are so
small, and so that is.
(07:36):
Those are the things you hear,and I'm saying it that way
because that is what you hearand not that none of this is
dangerous.
But I'm saying that because I myjourney to homeopathy was very
similar, similar in my mind.
I didn't have all the stuffthat you had to walk through
with your oldest, but it becamewhere I just there was not
answers for these things otherthan just more medication, and I
(08:02):
had seen that not work for myfamily before, um, with croup
for my oldest, but um, what feltreally empowering to me was
learning about these things.
And then, how?
What can I do to take care ofthis if we were to get it at
home?
And that's where I startedlearning homeopathy.
(08:24):
I learned other things at thetime too, within like the
natural realm, but luckily we'venever had to deal with it.
Um, now, though, I would not beworried at all.
The freedom that comes fromknowing I have I'm equipped to
take care of these things is thebiggest gift I think homeopathy
has brought my life.
Like, I'm not scared of any ofthese things.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
So, that said, yep, I agree, that's that I was
telling my daughter the otherday, um, what happened.
I had, like I had a suddenstomach ache or something, and I
was like I texted, um, I textedthe family chat or just the
kids, and said I'm going to laydown, nobody wake me up.
(09:07):
And then she was like later um,she was asking me what, what
happened, what's wrong?
I was like I don't know.
But you know, I knew, and whatI said to her next is this is
why I love homeopathy.
I had the tools in my hand.
I knew that that CarboVeg wasgoing to work, it's just going
(09:28):
to take a little bit of time.
And so I didn't have any fearor worry over that, where years
ago, before homeopathy, I wouldhave absolutely been worried
about oh my gosh, what's comingnext, what's going to happen,
what's?
You know what's going to.
And no, and I don't do any ofthat anymore so, um, yeah, so I,
you know, I want to start withthe way um, whooping cough
(09:51):
starts is it looks like just acold.
So you don't know, and so sothat's the again, the beauty of
homeopathy.
You just address the symptomsthat are presenting.
If it looks like a cold, takecold, calm.
You know, if you've got alittle cough, take the little
remedy that that matches thelittle cough.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
I was going to say that I want.
I mean, there's literally noway for us to know without
everyone getting diagnosed.
But I wonder how oftenhomeopathy takes care of these
things so early on that wewouldn't.
It wouldn't get to the pointwhere you would even know you
had whooping cough.
Exactly, exactly that I it'sfunny that you said that.
(10:28):
I thought that as soon asyou're about to say that you
have a little cough, you treatthe little cough, yeah, whatever
it is, whatever the symptomsare.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
So I don't even have to know, um, and using
homeopathy, that it's calledwhooping cough.
So we don't, I don't have todiagnose.
Um, you know, and you don'thave to, you don't have to know
it's whooping cough.
So here's the remedy Um, it's,you know.
You can use the symptoms thatBree just described and if
(10:57):
you're matching those symptoms,these remedies are going to
match those symptoms, no matterwhat it's called.
So Drosera is number one forwhooping cough.
And remember, these remediesare spelled in the blog, on my
blog, on my website, and soDrosera has you would know to
(11:20):
use.
Well, first of all, it's numberone for whooping cough, but
then you would know to use umDrosera if it's a loose, rattly
cough with yellow mucus.
Um, the voice is deep andhoarse, there's pain in the
chest, underneath the ribs, theymight vomit from too much mucus
, and worse at night, worse forsinging or talking.
(11:43):
So I really like Drosera.
30 or 200.
It's probably, you know, Iwould use one of those potencies
30 C or 200 C.
Drosera can also be taken.
So, let's say, somebody in yourfamily has whooping cough, the
rest of everybody else in thefamily can take a dose of
Drosera to help strengthen theirimmune system and help them you
(12:05):
know, possibly probably not getit Ipecac Ipecac is also a big
whooping cough remedy andbecause it's remember, ipecac is
also a big whooping coughremedy and because, remember,
ipecac is the nag and gag, so isthere a lot of gagging with
whooping cough, I think did yousay that?
Speaker 1 (12:22):
Yeah, it can become that and even vomiting, because
the mucus is so thick that youcough and cough and cough until
you throw up.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
Yep, so yep, vomiting from too much mucus is in
Ipecac, choking and gagging onmucus, bringing up white, thick
mucus, and they might even get anosebleed with the cough.
So, um, ipecac, drosera, and um, oh, here's just a little note
(12:56):
in my notes.
I'll read to you If you have anongoing cough, or you know
someone who has a cough thatthey just can't seem to shift,
then it may be the whoopingcough, sometimes coined the
100-day cough, and so cases arebecoming increasingly common in
England and Wales.
And blah, blah, blah.
So we have homeopathy Pertussin.
(13:17):
Pertussin is a remedy,pertussin 30C, and it is made
from the potentized whoopingcough.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
Yeah, the bacteria is Bordetella pertussis, so that's
a no-sode made from that.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
Yeah, and so Pertussin I actually just get.
I made a little kit for afriend of mine and I gave her a
little thing of Pertussin andshe was like no, and she was
writing down what each remedywas for and I said you'll
probably never need this, but Iwanted you to have it on hand in
(13:59):
case you do need it.
And so Pertussin 30C canshorten the duration and reduce
the intensity of whooping cough.
You can use it alongside thebest match remedy that we talked
about already, or one thatwe're going to talk about, and
it can also be used to helpstrengthen your immune system if
(14:22):
you've been exposed or you know, if you have other people in
your family or you've been, yeah, closely, closely exposed.
I would say you could, youcould take Pertussin.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
I have a question about that from just knowing the
principle of homeopathy, thelaw of similars, right that we
use similar, and there I haveseen a few cases where the
no-sode of that thing can berecommended to use during an
outbreak or during an episode,if you want to call it that.
(14:53):
I mean just your personalthoughts on that, like if
pertussis or pertussin is thewhooping cough potentized when
you have whooping cough, thatdoesn't match the law of
similars, that's what do youcall it Isopathy?
Speaker 2 (15:08):
Isopathy Yep.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
And that still can work.
Yep, yeah, isopathy works.
Isopathy is a method ofhomeopathy, but or well, well, a
method of, of practice andwithin the homeopathy,
homeopathic um world.
But that's right, isopathymeans same, so you're taking the
same, just like if you were toget stung by a bee, a honeybee,
(15:32):
and you take apis.
That's isopathy.
That's not even homeopathy, butit still works.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
Yeah Okay.
Um, I it still works.
Yeah Okay, I anticipated thatquestion.
So that's have you ever givenanyone else Pertussin?
Speaker 2 (15:45):
No, I get actually.
Yes, I did so.
Last year there was a littlewhooping cough scare and a place
that we frequent I'm not goingto give details and and there
was a family that was greatlyaffected.
But then there was anotherfamily that was directly, you
(16:07):
know, in contact with them andso they quarantine, they did all
the things that the healthdepartment told them to do and I
gave that that family Pertussinand I I believe that they did
use it, you know, once, maybeone dose or two doses, just to
be safe, and nothing ever cameup, they never got sick.
Okay, Okay.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
So I did want to ask a couple other, let's say like
follow-up questions to that.
Let's say, somebody haswhooping cough and it develops
into pneumonia, what are maybesome other remedies that might
not be just for whooping coughbut to have on hand, for I know?
We've talked about it in otherpodcasts but if it develops into
pneumonia or you get a fever,how do you think you would
(16:54):
address that if it was latestage?
Speaker 2 (16:56):
Yeah, pneumonia antimonium tart is number one
for pneumonia Bladder, I thinkis great Fever.
You know, it could bebelladonna or aconite or
chamomilla.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
Okay, good, I like to think through that for people
who I mean, maybe if somethingchanges and you need something
else, okay, I'll go backwards.
Then let's say, often in anacute, even though this is like
a longer acute, is there, Iguess, two questions.
One is there a chance maybe aperson with whooping cough would
(17:31):
need Drosera for several weeks,or would you, I guess?
I don't know if there's, Ihaven't ever had anyone I know
have it.
Is that something you've seen,or does it usually help within a
shorter period of time?
Speaker 2 (17:45):
I have not seen it, I actually.
So most of the people that Ihelp or that come to me for help
don't get diagnosed.
So I don't know.
You know they might come to meand say it sounds like a
whooping cough, but yes, so youcan use these remedies longer
term.
I don't know, you know theymight come to me and say it
sounds like a whooping cough,but yes, so you can use these
remedies longer term.
But if it, if it's becomingmore chronic like that, you
(18:06):
might.
You're not going to use itevery three hours for weeks.
Then it might be just twice perday, or but yeah, the cough
coughs can hang on, and then youjust keep using the remedy
that's actually working right.
If it's not working, you changeand then if it starts, if it
becomes to just be a lingeringthing with no end in sight, then
(18:27):
sulfur 30C is a great remedy totry.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
Yeah, okay.
And then one more question.
Let's say, with a cough I don'tknow if this is typical with
homeopathy and whooping coughspecifically, but let's say, a
lot of coughs start like reallydeep in the chest.
And so you are, you know you'retaking Drosera Ipecac.
What if they start?
It changes as they, excuse me,as they're getting better,
(18:52):
either turns maybe into a driercough at the end.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
Would you change from that then?
Speaker 2 (18:59):
You, you follow the symptoms you could, yeah, so you
know.
Yeah, we know Bryonia is a drycough and then we have the whole
coughs podcast that we did, soyou could always go there, but
as long as it's presenting likewhooping cough, these are going
to be your main remedies.
Yeah, um, dulcamara is anotherone that I always forget about.
(19:20):
I pretty much never usedDulcamara, just because I forget
about it, not because it's notgood, and, um, you know, you
could read it.
Oh, I did want to say too, foranybody who, if you know these
remedies aren't working or youneed more ideas, you've already
tried these and you know.
Here you are, your, yourrepertory, so your homeopathic
repertory.
So, if you have the fourthedition of Dr Murphy's matter
(19:48):
repertory, then on page 2537,there is whooping cough and
you'll see a lot of remedieslisted, a lot.
It even goes to the next page.
So you'll take the top ones oryou'll look for the sub rubrics
(20:09):
that match and you'll take thetop ones, read them in your
Materia Medica, see which onefits the best.
And if you need more help andmore guidance and learning how
to do this, come to thementorship program.
Um, these we have coachingcalls where we, where we can
really practice this and getgood at this yeah, awesome thank
(20:31):
you, thanks for being here.
That's whooping cough and I hopeyou never ever get it amen but
we have the tools if we do, yep.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
Thank you.
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