June 4, 2024 • 26 mins
June 4, 2024
138. Navigating Family Relocation and Home Renovation with Maria Maldonado Smith
If you are like millions of people who will have to relocate where you live today we have some great advice from a working mom with extensive experience in corporate moves.
Maria Maldonado Smith shares her expertise in transitioning to new communities, from real estate transactions to the emotional aspects of settling in. Learn strategic tips for acclimating quickly and understanding neighborhood dynamics, especially through her own move to South Florida.
We also dive into home renovation tales, like her unexpected electrical issues turned full-blown rewiring project, highlighting the importance of thorough inspections and maintenance. Plus, Maria imparts wisdom on goal setting and vision imagery, showing how to transform both our living spaces and lives. Join us for practical tips and inspiring insights on turning any house into a dream home.
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George Siegal (00:00):
Today we are diving into a topic that hits
close to home for many of usrelocating.
Whether you're moving for a newjob, better schools or simply a
change of scenery, the processis fraught with challenges From
finding a new place that trulyfits your needs to selling your
old home and ensuring your kidsadjust smoothly.
The list of tasks can feelendless.
(00:20):
And amidst all this chaos, howcan you be certain about what
you're really buying?
Well, my guest today is MariaMaldonado-Smith, the Chief
Empowerment Officer of the MMSConsulting Firm and creator of
the Executive Vision ImageryProgram.
She's also a married mom whohas been through the moving
process a bunch of times and hasgreat advice to help you make a
(00:41):
smoother transition.
I'm George Siegal, and this isHomeowners Be Aware the podcast
that teaches you everything youneed to know about being a
homeowner.
Maria, thank you so much forjoining me today.
Maria Maldonado Smith (00:55):
I'm so excited to be here.
George Siegal (00:56):
Thanks for having me Now we met recently as I was
trying to become a guest onyour podcast to talk about the
stuff that I do, and you broughtup something that's really
interesting and with my podcastand we talk about homeowners and
things to be aware of.
You've moved a lot and as a momand as a working mom, it's not
just you moving and setting up.
You have a whole family toworry about.
(01:17):
Talk about the challenges youhave faced in those situations,
because you had some goodstories in those situations
because you had some goodstories.
Maria Maldonado Smith (01:25):
Yes, so we have moved.
Well, let's see, I think thestaff that our kids have said
they moved four times in abouteight years, eight, nine years,
yeah, so my 14-year-old went tothree different elementary
schools.
We have since settled.
I don't really know necessarilywhat that means, I think for
(01:47):
the time being, because we havetwo now in high school and then
we have a younger one inelementary school.
Probably when the older two gooff to college we will seek to
uproot ourselves and gosomewhere else without a without
, without the um, a corporatelocation kind of looming over us
.
But yes, we, we have moved a lot, primarily for corporate
(02:10):
relocations.
It was something that both myhusband and I, when we got
married and we're we're growingout our careers, we're building
them out we both said let's gowhere we can have the most
opportunity.
And so we knew I was born andraised in a small town,
lexington, kentucky so not a tonof opportunity for upward
(02:30):
mobility, especially with largecorporations.
So we knew that, with both ofus in more of that Fortune 500
corporation mentality, we weregoing to have to move.
We just figured that was goingto be a part of it.
So we started, when our kidswere young, making some of those
relocations, and each time welearned something new.
So we learned how to sell ourhouse better, how to buy a house
(02:53):
better, and we learned how toacclimate more quickly to our
environment.
George Siegal (02:58):
Where did you end up?
Where are you right now?
Maria Maldonado Smith (03:00):
So we ended up in sunny South Florida,
so we are a little bit outside,a little bit north of Fort
Lauderdale.
George Siegal (03:05):
You have movers, so sometimes you don't have to
deal with some of the baloneythat a lot of people do, but you
(03:31):
still have to find a place andget your family set up.
What are the challenges likewhen you're looking for a house
and then making that transition?
Maria Maldonado Smith (03:39):
There are a lot of challenges, especially
when children are involved.
If it were just my husband andI, I mean I think we could have
made almost every moveincredibly seamless and most
likely would have moved intomore metropolitan urban areas.
I mean, we're looking at, youknow, in suburban areas because
of we have to think of schools,we have to think of commute to.
If there's an office that we'recommuting to, where is the
(04:02):
center of the market, where youknow, where are we going to be
most utilized and needed, andthen that community feel as well
.
I think you have to mesh withthe community and that's tough
when you've never lived in thatarea before.
And then you're taking maybeone to two I think the most
relocation like house huntingtrips we ever took was two and
(04:22):
that was probably when we weremoving.
Actually, no, that was when wewere moving to Nashville Because
we could drive up there.
We could make a couple of moretrips.
We were living in Atlanta atthe time and so we could get
there within three hours, so wewould take the kids up there, we
would drive around.
We got a better feel for kindof where we might potentially
live.
We also took the advice ofpeople who were working in the
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market already, so folks whowere already, you know, with the
company or with theorganization and could say, hey,
where are some good spots forus to live if we want to raise
children?
Yeah, that's, those are some ofthe, but those are, I mean, I
would say the kids are thebiggest, you know, the biggest
cog in that wheel when you'removing.
George Siegal (05:04):
Sure, no, that's a huge part of it.
And an area where a lot ofpeople get in trouble is if you
don't spend a lot of time in aneighborhood and you're looking
at a house, you don't know whoyour neighbors are, you don't
know what you're moving in nextdoor to, what kind of drama,
what kind of problems.
And then there's the kind ofdisasters that can befall an
area.
How much thought did you put ingoing OK, let's look at
(05:26):
environmentally what disasterscould happen here and how safe
is our house?
Maria Maldonado Smith (05:31):
Yes.
So we put a lot of thought intothat, especially moving down
here to South Florida, becauseit was an entirely different
approach In the, you know, inthe south I mean I know we live
in South Florida, but I meanlike the true South Atlanta,
nashville, kentucky when you'relooking at homes there it's I
would I would say that weprobably got caught up more in
(05:53):
the aesthetics than we did whenwe moved here.
Here it was more about likeutility and futility, Like what
are we going to absolutely beable, like what's going to be
able to withstand a hurricane?
Because we knew moving intothis area, and especially moving
down to the East coast, I thinkMichael had come through
potential for Ian.
Thank goodness, since we'velived here, everything's
(06:13):
bypassed us.
But that was something that Iwas fearful of.
I grew up in Kentucky where wehad tornadoes, so there was
always the potential for thoseThankfully never experienced one
that came close.
When we lived in Nashvillethere was one that actually did
go through our neighborhood.
So we were well, or I guessyeah, like clipped, clipped to
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the back of our neighborhood anddestroyed.
George Siegal (06:36):
Did you have a storm cellar?
Did you have any kind ofemergency shelter?
Maria Maldonado Smith (06:40):
No, we didn't, because the irony is
that in Tennessee, the limestone, or there we have limestone in
Kentucky, I think they said thatthe mountain is so it's so hard
to cut through, it is aridiculously expensive to build
basements, so most people justlive on mountains or live where.
Yeah, so you don't.
We had a nook that we kept allof our luggage in, we kept the
(07:03):
things that we would need fortravel and so, hurriedly,
actually, my son my youngest wasI was nursing him that morning
and my husband's like get inhere, like literally grabs me
and as we're closing the door,you just see debris flying
everywhere.
It was the craziest, wildestexperience because it was early
in the morning when it happenedand it was one of those things
(07:24):
that you couldn't.
I mean we were, we were juststarting to get up for our day,
it was five, 36 o'clock in themorning when it happened.
Um, so, so those those types ofthings when we moved down here
were in the back of my mind,just because we had had that one
experience and, thankfully,nothing but debris was in our
yard.
But we, you drove around thecorner in our neighborhood and
we had people who had, you know,blown out windows and roofs
(07:47):
missing, and it was prettyintense.
George Siegal (07:50):
Ironically, your son is the only one that would
have gotten fed if you had beenstranded for a while.
Maria Maldonado Smith (07:54):
I know Exactly yes, yeah.
George Siegal (07:57):
But you know and that shows a lot of people in
those areas you could still havean interior safe room in those
houses, and I'm always amazed.
We did a lot of coverage inMoore, oklahoma, for my last
film and they got hit by eighttornadoes, big tornadoes that
caused significant damage, butmost people there still did not
have any kind of storm cellar orsafe room.
(08:18):
And I don't understand that.
I don't understand the humannature of taking an incredible
risk and not really worryingabout it.
So when you move into thesehomes now you're in South
Florida, it's not if it's whenanother hurricane is going to
strike.
This is going to be a veryactive year.
Do you guys have a concreteblock house?
(08:39):
Do you have a plan?
What kind of thoughthurricane-wise?
Maria Maldonado Smith (08:44):
We do.
We have a concrete blockstructure and so that was one of
the things when our real estateagent was working with us, that
was one thing she did.
Advise was you want to find andI think that there were some
laws, I think, put in place ifyour home was built after a
certain period, they had to beCBS.
But I know in our conversationsI think some of that is I don't
(09:06):
I, some of that is I don't knowthat that's being adhered to.
But our home is, our structureis concrete block.
George Siegal (09:13):
Well, south Florida has the toughest
standards in the state.
It gets more lax as you gonorth and people are rolling the
dice more.
As far as other problems thathomeowners have, I've talked to
people that bought houses thatwere being flipped poor quality,
bad workmanship.
How much were you able toinvestigate the quality of the
things in your house so youunderstood what you were getting
(09:33):
?
Because when you have to movequickly, that's quite often
where you have to sacrifice.
Maria Maldonado Smith (09:39):
Yes, we learned from our Nashville home,
which was a beautiful home, andhonestly it just was something
that our home inspector heprobably did the most thorough
job that we had ever had done ona home.
We were fortunate that when welived in Atlanta we had a new
build.
It was actually a couple whohad built the home hoping that
their kids and grandkids wouldcome, hoping that their kids and
(10:02):
grandkids would come, and theybuilt this five bedroom home and
then, within six months of itbeing about to be finished, two
of their kids relocated to theWest Coast to join another one
of their children.
So they didn't feel the needfor it anymore because travel
back East was probably not goingto be happening as much as they
thought.
So we lucked out in thatsituation and didn't have too
(10:22):
many issues with that home.
It was more cosmetic and morejust us adding paint and little
things here and there.
But there was still qualityissues.
Even with a brand new home.
There were shelves that weren'tproperly affixed and you think
this is a brand new closet andthe shelves are falling apart.
George Siegal (10:40):
You told me a story that I actually repeated
because I was talking to my sonabout grades in school and he
goes oh, just flip the switchand turn it on when I need to.
And you told a story about alight switch that went to
nowhere.
Tell me about that, Went tonowhere, gosh.
Maria Maldonado Smith (10:53):
That was in our South Florida home when
we moved in, and so, to yourpoint, we don't have a lot of
time, and so that's why we'vekind of looked for either
relatively new builds orsomething that we feel is like
got really good bones, and Ilove older homes, but I also
could live in a remodeling orreconstruction zone pretty
consistently my husband not somuch and so when we moved in,
(11:15):
actually the home we moved intoa little bit older home built in
you know that well older toSouth Florida.
Parkland is not that old tobegin with, and so our home is
about 1993 was when it was built, and when we moved in.
So a contractor had come in,gutted a big portion of the home
, laid really beautiful tile, so, like cosmetically, it looked
(11:36):
good, right, and so one thingthey did, though, was cap off a
lot of the light fixtures, andso when we moved in, we were in
the dark, literally.
I mean, it was by the time thesun would set.
You know this is like summer,so we had a little bit more time
, but around 8 o'clock, 830 atnight, we were literally
starting to become in the dark.
So I had to quickly order lightfixtures.
(12:00):
So I ordered five for the mainareas of the home that I knew
okay, dining room we need light.
My daughter's room, we needlight, she needs to be able to
flip a switch.
So we ordered these and have anelectrician come over and as he
is going through the day andboth my husband and I are at
work, I receive a call and he'slike ma'am, are you close to the
home, to where you could getback potentially?
(12:22):
And I was like I'm not too far.
I was like give me like 25, 30minutes.
I arrive home and he says well,we have a problem.
He said your daughter's room isa complete fire hazard.
I'm like, oh, my gosh, I'mshocked.
He's like I've been up in theattic.
He's like the the wiring is soold.
And he said and she's got a, shehad a three switch light
(12:43):
fixture or light, you know, inlight block in her room.
And he said two of these go tonowhere.
There are no wires attached tothem, but the one that your
daughter would need to use.
There are eight wires connectedto this one outlet.
And he says so if I installthis fixture, we're going to
(13:04):
turn this on.
And he's like and who knowswhat could happen.
So he said I need yourpermission to rewire everything
in here.
And he said because I have afeeling that it probably goes to
your, we have like a Jack, andit goes to her bathroom,
possibly to the boys, like Jackand Jill, you know bathroom or
Jack and Jack bathroom, howeveryou want to put it and then, and
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then probably into theirbedrooms as well, because those
were the other two rooms.
So basically all the rooms uptop did not have light fixtures
installed, they were just cappedoff.
Well, I knew that there hadbeen previous owners that had
lived here, because we were notthe first people, we were the
second owners and I guess,technically the third if you
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count the contractor that hadput it in their name.
So I was like, well, I mean, ofcourse we have to have light,
so fix them.
But what we thought was goingto be probably $500, you know, a
hundred bucks a light toinstall ended up to thousands of
dollars worth of fixing.
George Siegal (14:04):
Yeah, and you wouldn't expect that in a house
I mean normally that would soundlike a house from the 40s and
the 50s.
There's a lot of houses over inSt Pete, around here and here
in Tampa that are really old andpeople gut them and you have to
replace all the wiring.
There's a couple of homeinspectors that I follow on
Instagram and they show thingson couple of home inspectors
that I follow on Instagram andthey show things on construction
(14:25):
of houses and how sloppy thework can be and it really is
shocking because we assumesomebody's building a house.
He's like you're probablyreally good at what you do.
You assume other people are too, but you can't do that,
especially in construction.
Maria Maldonado Smith (14:38):
Right, right.
I mean, these are people'shomes, this is where they're,
this is where you're supposed tofeel the safest, is in your
home, and and I know we hadtalked to you about our kitchen
I mean, our kitchen looksbeautiful, but within two months
, we were losing pieces off thebottom, and, and so, and at this
point, it's like there's notenough gorilla glue to keep it
(15:00):
on.
George Siegal (15:01):
Yeah, and that's frustrating.
It's like if you had just doneit right.
I think every builder orsomebody in construction should
have to live for a little bit inthe house that they build to
experience the quality or lackthereof of their work, and maybe
that would change some things,but I don't know.
Maria Maldonado Smith (15:18):
Yeah, yeah, and I understand.
I mean, we ended up meeting acontractor who was great and he
worked independently and weended up hiring him to do
several projects around the home.
And one of the things he didmention to us was um, you know
he, he came out and said hey,your baseboards are beautiful,
but just FYI, they aremanufactured.
(15:41):
They are going to be cheaper inquality.
They will most likely any ding,dent.
You know they're going to chipeasy, and they have.
And he said but you know theycan be replaced.
And he said because you haveyoung children, you, you have.
You guys have a busy life.
Um, you have a dog, you havepets that are going to scratch
at it, and our dogs have Uh andso.
(16:02):
So we were okay with that, butwe found that out after the fact
.
So one thing he suggested wasif your crown moldings is
something you really want topreserve and take care of, then
I just suggest that you do woodon on the top.
And he said because they'lllast a lot longer and it'll be
more expensive, but it'll bemore worth it in the end.
And so that's what weultimately we chose to do was to
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install wood for our crownmoldings and keep the baseboards
as the I think he called it MDF.
George Siegal (16:34):
So yeah, absolutely.
So, looking back on what you'veexperienced, especially in this
most recent house, what advicewould you have for people so
they could maybe avoid themistakes you have, and sometimes
it's unavoidable.
Sometimes you would you havefor people so they could maybe
avoid the mistakes you have, andsometimes it's unavoidable.
Sometimes you don't have time,sometimes you just have to rush
into something.
Are there things you could havedone that maybe you could have
caught some of this on the frontside?
Maria Maldonado Smith (16:53):
So possibly, possibly we found the
pictures of what our home lookedlike before they remodeled it
after the fact, and so we had todo a little digging for that
and I will say that they, they,they, looking like reflecting.
Now they did a lot with whatthis home used to look like.
There were a lot of mirrors onwalls, there was carpet
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everywhere and the bathroomsweren't nearly as nice.
So they did replace and theydid update and upgrade quite a
bit.
I would say one thing that I afew things that I now know to
look for if we go to move again,and just that I've learned is
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the foundation.
I mean, really think about andlook at the foundation, the
wiring, have a home inspectiondone, but have them pay more to
have them do a more thoroughhome inspection, because you can
catch things on the homeinspection.
If you say, I want like thebells and whistles and it's
going to cost you more money,but like walk the note, not just
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walk the roof, but really walkthe roof, like checking tiles,
making sure that things aresturdy, because those are the
things that you don't thinkabout and that you don't want to
have to spend your moneyreplacing, but you'd rather know
upfront if you, if you have to,or if that's going to be a path
.
I would say that's probably wasthe biggest benefit that we had
when in in finding a homeinspector.
That was really good, becausehe taught us that home
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inspections actually aresomething that you should do
regularly, not just when you'regoing to buy or sell a home, and
that by doing so you're goingto prevent so many more
additional costs when you do goto sell.
And so that's why, when we werein Nashville and we felt very
comfortable, very pleased whenwe listed our home we needed to
move quickly.
We moved during the summertimeand we had a timeline.
We had to sell within a finiteamount of time because we had to
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get kids into a new schoolsystem.
Three different kids in threedifferent schools in a new
community.
I mean, there's just a lot youhave to think about.
Look at floods, look at thefloodplain.
You know what level, what zoneare you in.
Because, for insurance, that'ssomething that we we also
learned, and so we're a littlebit further inland, we're more
West and so not as close to thebeach, but making sure that you
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can obtain the right insurancethat you need, that's going to
be full coverage that's going toprovide you if, in a
catastrophic event, you would becovered because homes are
expensive to replace.
So I would say that you know,make sure that the bones, you
know the foundation, the bones,the structure, and then you know
, looking at things, especiallyin South Florida, looking at,
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you know, has the home everflooded before?
Have you ever had any majorissues?
And then, to your point earlier,go drive around.
We drove around a few times, youknow, more kind of morning,
noon, afternoon, night, just tosee, and what we noticed was
there was a good amount of kids.
The pandemic brought anonslaught of more, which has
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been great because there's morekids throughout the community.
And so you know that if there'sfamilies in your community,
then they most likely have thesame types of thoughts, feelings
and objectives as you, which isto get up every day, go to work
, support their family, have agood, safe place to live and
they want to take care of it.
The other piece that I will addin and I don't know how to
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mitigate this or prepare peoplefor it, but maybe check out your
HOA, because you can have somethat are wonderful to work with
and then you can have some thatwant to nitpick and just fine
you out the yin yang for everylittle thing, and I want to live
in a community where I get it.
I don't want hot pink houseseither, but I also understand
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that there are little projectshere and there that I would like
to do in my home, and to gothrough a three-month process is
really frustrating when youwant to make a move on something
.
George Siegal (20:41):
Yeah, I agree with you, but I'll tell you the
other side of it.
There's no HOA where I live andit's the wild, wild west.
You can leave a boat on thestreet in front of your house.
You can leave your trash cansout, you could let your lawn go
and nobody's going to sayanything.
So when you live in a clean,well-groomed neighborhood, those
are the things that may be apain to do your little projects
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but you gain a lot more controlover the look of everything, and
that's frustrating when itlooks bad.
Maria Maldonado Smith (21:08):
Yes, yes, I think it's, oh, and
absolutely.
I like I said yeah, I mean, Ilove that we have and they, they
, they take care of the, youknow the, and they take care of
the entrance area.
We live in a gated community,which I didn't realize that most
everywhere in South Florida isgated.
That was something that was newto us, Because in Nashville you
just have a lot of wide openneighborhoods that you just
drive through because you have alot of land in between each
(21:29):
home.
But that was something new downhere that we learned is most
every home we would go to see,and that's actually what made
when we were moving to Nashvillea little bit easier because we
could just drive by homes thatwe wanted In South Florida.
You have to have a gate code oryou have to be able to be let
in, and so it made it harder forus to just like shop around.
So we had to more look at the,the neighborhoods and the
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surroundings.
We couldn't really go in andsee them unless we had
appointments through a realestate agent.
George Siegal (21:58):
It's also a good test.
I like the neighborhoods thatdon't let me in to drive around
because that means they'restopping people.
I want them checking people.
Now you have an interestingbackground.
You're a beauty contestant,pageant winner.
You're a working mom.
I was reading about what you doand it goes way over my head.
Just tell us briefly what it isthat you do in your day job
(22:20):
that takes up all your time.
Maria Maldonado Smith (22:22):
Yes, I transform corporate teams
through neuroscience theneuroscience of goal setting,
habit formation and then thepower of vision imagery.
So I essentially take thescience behind the way our brain
works and operates in order tohelp us achieve what we want,
and I couple that, combine itwith the power of visualization
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and visual imagery.
And, interestingly enough, Iwas thinking about this before
we had our conversation and I'mincredibly visual, and so
whenever I've walked into a homethat's why I say I could live
in a construction zone Icouldn't do it consistently, but
I don't mind projects, becauseI love seeing it come to life, I
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love seeing the start to thefinish of it.
So we remodeled our laundryroom.
I'm one of the weirdos thatenjoys doing laundry, and so I
love having a clean, nice,beautiful space to do that in,
and so when we were remodelingit, I realized, okay, there were
certain things that I wanted incertain places, based on
laundry rooms that I had been in, and they're not very
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functional.
So I was like I want mine to bevery functional, I want to know
exactly where things are.
So I created the visual for it.
I created a little mood board,so to speak, that you would call
it.
You know, pinterest, whateveryou know.
But I just put some things onCanva, printed it out, gave it
to our our contractor at thetime and just said listen, this
is the aesthetic that I'm goingfor you.
(23:49):
You now use your expertise, youtell me the best materials, the
best qualities, all of that.
80% of us are visual learners.
I mean we.
We are.
We prefer visuals because itgives our brain something to go
on.
It gives us a path like oh, Isee it, now I can process it.
It's hard.
Sometimes my husband walks intoa home and I talk about tearing
down a wall or doing this andhe's like I can't see it.
(24:11):
I just I don't, I doesn't.
He's not wired that way.
And so it's really cool becausewhen I work with people like
him in corporations, I saysometimes this is the disconnect
between our brain being able toaccomplish the goal and
actually and it coming tofruition.
The missing link is you don'thave the visual, you're not
seeing.
You understand that there is agoal or you understand there's
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an end result, but how we getthere could be expedited by
accompanying it with visuals.
George Siegal (24:43):
Now you also have a podcast.
Maria Maldonado Smith (24:45):
I do.
It's called creating the vision.
George Siegal (24:47):
Okay, and it talks about the kind of things
you visually making thingshappen.
Maria Maldonado Smith (24:53):
Yes, and I think that there's the dual
concept.
There is that, yes, I talkabout the transformation that I
have with teams and corporationsthat I've been honored to work
with, but I also, internally, wehave a vision for the life that
we want to live.
So we all have, and are guidedby some form or vision of where
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it is we want to go, and so Ilove sharing stories.
I'm excited to share your storyabout you know, about your
documentary and how that allcame together and also how you
have, you know, you pivoted inyour life and kind of created a
new vision for the futuredirection of where you're headed
.
So it's it's cool to be able toto discuss it in both aspects,
both entrepreneurially,corporately, and then just how
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are we getting up every day andliving our life and creating
that vision?
George Siegal (25:38):
Wow.
Well, you certainly have enoughenergy, so I bet you're great
at what you do.
I appreciate you coming on.
All your contact information,how people can get ahold of you,
will be in the show notes sopeople can easily find you.
And good luck during hurricaneseason.
Let's hope it's easy for all ofus.
Maria Maldonado Smith (25:55):
I know you and me both right, we'll be
hunkered down.
Yes, I'm nervous about this one.
It's the first year I've everbeen nervous.
George Siegal (26:02):
Yeah, knowledge is dangerous.
I'm nervous about all of them.
Thanks, maria.
I appreciate you coming on.
Thank you, I know a lot of youlistening have experienced all
kinds of things, either as ahomeowner or a renter.
Well, there's a contact form inthe show notes.
Fill it out and send it my way.
You could be a guest to shareyour story on an upcoming
podcast.
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Thanks again for taking thetime to listen today.
I'll see you next time.
Today we are diving into a topic that hits
close to home for many of usrelocating.
Whether you're moving for a newjob, better schools or simply a
change of scenery, the processis fraught with challenges From
finding a new place that trulyfits your needs to selling your
old home and ensuring your kidsadjust smoothly.
The list of tasks can feelendless.
(00:20):
And amidst all this chaos, howcan you be certain about what
you're really buying?
Well, my guest today is MariaMaldonado-Smith, the Chief
Empowerment Officer of the MMSConsulting Firm and creator of
the Executive Vision ImageryProgram.
She's also a married mom whohas been through the moving
process a bunch of times and hasgreat advice to help you make a
(00:41):
smoother transition.
I'm George Siegal, and this isHomeowners Be Aware the podcast
that teaches you everything youneed to know about being a
homeowner.
Maria, thank you so much forjoining me today.
Maria Maldonado Smith (00:55):
I'm so excited to be here.
George Siegal (00:56):
Thanks for having me Now we met recently as I was
trying to become a guest onyour podcast to talk about the
stuff that I do, and you broughtup something that's really
interesting and with my podcastand we talk about homeowners and
things to be aware of.
You've moved a lot and as a momand as a working mom, it's not
just you moving and setting up.
You have a whole family toworry about.
(01:17):
Talk about the challenges youhave faced in those situations,
because you had some goodstories in those situations
because you had some goodstories.
Maria Maldonado Smith (01:25):
Yes, so we have moved.
Well, let's see, I think thestaff that our kids have said
they moved four times in abouteight years, eight, nine years,
yeah, so my 14-year-old went tothree different elementary
schools.
We have since settled.
I don't really know necessarilywhat that means, I think for
(01:47):
the time being, because we havetwo now in high school and then
we have a younger one inelementary school.
Probably when the older two gooff to college we will seek to
uproot ourselves and gosomewhere else without a without
, without the um, a corporatelocation kind of looming over us
.
But yes, we, we have moved a lot, primarily for corporate
(02:10):
relocations.
It was something that both myhusband and I, when we got
married and we're we're growingout our careers, we're building
them out we both said let's gowhere we can have the most
opportunity.
And so we knew I was born andraised in a small town,
lexington, kentucky so not a tonof opportunity for upward
(02:30):
mobility, especially with largecorporations.
So we knew that, with both ofus in more of that Fortune 500
corporation mentality, we weregoing to have to move.
We just figured that was goingto be a part of it.
So we started, when our kidswere young, making some of those
relocations, and each time welearned something new.
So we learned how to sell ourhouse better, how to buy a house
(02:53):
better, and we learned how toacclimate more quickly to our
environment.
George Siegal (02:58):
Where did you end up?
Where are you right now?
Maria Maldonado Smith (03:00):
So we ended up in sunny South Florida,
so we are a little bit outside,a little bit north of Fort
Lauderdale.
George Siegal (03:05):
You have movers, so sometimes you don't have to
deal with some of the baloneythat a lot of people do, but you
(03:31):
still have to find a place andget your family set up.
What are the challenges likewhen you're looking for a house
and then making that transition?
Maria Maldonado Smith (03:39):
There are a lot of challenges, especially
when children are involved.
If it were just my husband andI, I mean I think we could have
made almost every moveincredibly seamless and most
likely would have moved intomore metropolitan urban areas.
I mean, we're looking at, youknow, in suburban areas because
of we have to think of schools,we have to think of commute to.
If there's an office that we'recommuting to, where is the
(04:02):
center of the market, where youknow, where are we going to be
most utilized and needed, andthen that community feel as well
.
I think you have to mesh withthe community and that's tough
when you've never lived in thatarea before.
And then you're taking maybeone to two I think the most
relocation like house huntingtrips we ever took was two and
(04:22):
that was probably when we weremoving.
Actually, no, that was when wewere moving to Nashville Because
we could drive up there.
We could make a couple of moretrips.
We were living in Atlanta atthe time and so we could get
there within three hours, so wewould take the kids up there, we
would drive around.
We got a better feel for kindof where we might potentially
live.
We also took the advice ofpeople who were working in the
(04:45):
market already, so folks whowere already, you know, with the
company or with theorganization and could say, hey,
where are some good spots forus to live if we want to raise
children?
Yeah, that's, those are some ofthe, but those are, I mean, I
would say the kids are thebiggest, you know, the biggest
cog in that wheel when you'removing.
George Siegal (05:04):
Sure, no, that's a huge part of it.
And an area where a lot ofpeople get in trouble is if you
don't spend a lot of time in aneighborhood and you're looking
at a house, you don't know whoyour neighbors are, you don't
know what you're moving in nextdoor to, what kind of drama,
what kind of problems.
And then there's the kind ofdisasters that can befall an
area.
How much thought did you put ingoing OK, let's look at
(05:26):
environmentally what disasterscould happen here and how safe
is our house?
Maria Maldonado Smith (05:31):
Yes.
So we put a lot of thought intothat, especially moving down
here to South Florida, becauseit was an entirely different
approach In the, you know, inthe south I mean I know we live
in South Florida, but I meanlike the true South Atlanta,
nashville, kentucky when you'relooking at homes there it's I
would I would say that weprobably got caught up more in
(05:53):
the aesthetics than we did whenwe moved here.
Here it was more about likeutility and futility, Like what
are we going to absolutely beable, like what's going to be
able to withstand a hurricane?
Because we knew moving intothis area, and especially moving
down to the East coast, I thinkMichael had come through
potential for Ian.
Thank goodness, since we'velived here, everything's
(06:13):
bypassed us.
But that was something that Iwas fearful of.
I grew up in Kentucky where wehad tornadoes, so there was
always the potential for thoseThankfully never experienced one
that came close.
When we lived in Nashvillethere was one that actually did
go through our neighborhood.
So we were well, or I guessyeah, like clipped, clipped to
(06:34):
the back of our neighborhood anddestroyed.
George Siegal (06:36):
Did you have a storm cellar?
Did you have any kind ofemergency shelter?
Maria Maldonado Smith (06:40):
No, we didn't, because the irony is
that in Tennessee, the limestone, or there we have limestone in
Kentucky, I think they said thatthe mountain is so it's so hard
to cut through, it is aridiculously expensive to build
basements, so most people justlive on mountains or live where.
Yeah, so you don't.
We had a nook that we kept allof our luggage in, we kept the
(07:03):
things that we would need fortravel and so, hurriedly,
actually, my son my youngest wasI was nursing him that morning
and my husband's like get inhere, like literally grabs me
and as we're closing the door,you just see debris flying
everywhere.
It was the craziest, wildestexperience because it was early
in the morning when it happenedand it was one of those things
(07:24):
that you couldn't.
I mean we were, we were juststarting to get up for our day,
it was five, 36 o'clock in themorning when it happened.
Um, so, so those those types ofthings when we moved down here
were in the back of my mind,just because we had had that one
experience and, thankfully,nothing but debris was in our
yard.
But we, you drove around thecorner in our neighborhood and
we had people who had, you know,blown out windows and roofs
(07:47):
missing, and it was prettyintense.
George Siegal (07:50):
Ironically, your son is the only one that would
have gotten fed if you had beenstranded for a while.
Maria Maldonado Smith (07:54):
I know Exactly yes, yeah.
George Siegal (07:57):
But you know and that shows a lot of people in
those areas you could still havean interior safe room in those
houses, and I'm always amazed.
We did a lot of coverage inMoore, oklahoma, for my last
film and they got hit by eighttornadoes, big tornadoes that
caused significant damage, butmost people there still did not
have any kind of storm cellar orsafe room.
(08:18):
And I don't understand that.
I don't understand the humannature of taking an incredible
risk and not really worryingabout it.
So when you move into thesehomes now you're in South
Florida, it's not if it's whenanother hurricane is going to
strike.
This is going to be a veryactive year.
Do you guys have a concreteblock house?
(08:39):
Do you have a plan?
What kind of thoughthurricane-wise?
Maria Maldonado Smith (08:44):
We do.
We have a concrete blockstructure and so that was one of
the things when our real estateagent was working with us, that
was one thing she did.
Advise was you want to find andI think that there were some
laws, I think, put in place ifyour home was built after a
certain period, they had to beCBS.
But I know in our conversationsI think some of that is I don't
(09:06):
I, some of that is I don't knowthat that's being adhered to.
But our home is, our structureis concrete block.
George Siegal (09:13):
Well, south Florida has the toughest
standards in the state.
It gets more lax as you gonorth and people are rolling the
dice more.
As far as other problems thathomeowners have, I've talked to
people that bought houses thatwere being flipped poor quality,
bad workmanship.
How much were you able toinvestigate the quality of the
things in your house so youunderstood what you were getting
(09:33):
?
Because when you have to movequickly, that's quite often
where you have to sacrifice.
Maria Maldonado Smith (09:39):
Yes, we learned from our Nashville home,
which was a beautiful home, andhonestly it just was something
that our home inspector heprobably did the most thorough
job that we had ever had done ona home.
We were fortunate that when welived in Atlanta we had a new
build.
It was actually a couple whohad built the home hoping that
their kids and grandkids wouldcome, hoping that their kids and
(10:02):
grandkids would come, and theybuilt this five bedroom home and
then, within six months of itbeing about to be finished, two
of their kids relocated to theWest Coast to join another one
of their children.
So they didn't feel the needfor it anymore because travel
back East was probably not goingto be happening as much as they
thought.
So we lucked out in thatsituation and didn't have too
(10:22):
many issues with that home.
It was more cosmetic and morejust us adding paint and little
things here and there.
But there was still qualityissues.
Even with a brand new home.
There were shelves that weren'tproperly affixed and you think
this is a brand new closet andthe shelves are falling apart.
George Siegal (10:40):
You told me a story that I actually repeated
because I was talking to my sonabout grades in school and he
goes oh, just flip the switchand turn it on when I need to.
And you told a story about alight switch that went to
nowhere.
Tell me about that, Went tonowhere, gosh.
Maria Maldonado Smith (10:53):
That was in our South Florida home when
we moved in, and so, to yourpoint, we don't have a lot of
time, and so that's why we'vekind of looked for either
relatively new builds orsomething that we feel is like
got really good bones, and Ilove older homes, but I also
could live in a remodeling orreconstruction zone pretty
consistently my husband not somuch and so when we moved in,
(11:15):
actually the home we moved intoa little bit older home built in
you know that well older toSouth Florida.
Parkland is not that old tobegin with, and so our home is
about 1993 was when it was built, and when we moved in.
So a contractor had come in,gutted a big portion of the home
, laid really beautiful tile, so, like cosmetically, it looked
(11:36):
good, right, and so one thingthey did, though, was cap off a
lot of the light fixtures, andso when we moved in, we were in
the dark, literally.
I mean, it was by the time thesun would set.
You know this is like summer,so we had a little bit more time
, but around 8 o'clock, 830 atnight, we were literally
starting to become in the dark.
So I had to quickly order lightfixtures.
(12:00):
So I ordered five for the mainareas of the home that I knew
okay, dining room we need light.
My daughter's room, we needlight, she needs to be able to
flip a switch.
So we ordered these and have anelectrician come over and as he
is going through the day andboth my husband and I are at
work, I receive a call and he'slike ma'am, are you close to the
home, to where you could getback potentially?
(12:22):
And I was like I'm not too far.
I was like give me like 25, 30minutes.
I arrive home and he says well,we have a problem.
He said your daughter's room isa complete fire hazard.
I'm like, oh, my gosh, I'mshocked.
He's like I've been up in theattic.
He's like the the wiring is soold.
And he said and she's got a, shehad a three switch light
(12:43):
fixture or light, you know, inlight block in her room.
And he said two of these go tonowhere.
There are no wires attached tothem, but the one that your
daughter would need to use.
There are eight wires connectedto this one outlet.
And he says so if I installthis fixture, we're going to
(13:04):
turn this on.
And he's like and who knowswhat could happen.
So he said I need yourpermission to rewire everything
in here.
And he said because I have afeeling that it probably goes to
your, we have like a Jack, andit goes to her bathroom,
possibly to the boys, like Jackand Jill, you know bathroom or
Jack and Jack bathroom, howeveryou want to put it and then, and
(13:27):
then probably into theirbedrooms as well, because those
were the other two rooms.
So basically all the rooms uptop did not have light fixtures
installed, they were just cappedoff.
Well, I knew that there hadbeen previous owners that had
lived here, because we were notthe first people, we were the
second owners and I guess,technically the third if you
(13:49):
count the contractor that hadput it in their name.
So I was like, well, I mean, ofcourse we have to have light,
so fix them.
But what we thought was goingto be probably $500, you know, a
hundred bucks a light toinstall ended up to thousands of
dollars worth of fixing.
George Siegal (14:04):
Yeah, and you wouldn't expect that in a house
I mean normally that would soundlike a house from the 40s and
the 50s.
There's a lot of houses over inSt Pete, around here and here
in Tampa that are really old andpeople gut them and you have to
replace all the wiring.
There's a couple of homeinspectors that I follow on
Instagram and they show thingson couple of home inspectors
that I follow on Instagram andthey show things on construction
(14:25):
of houses and how sloppy thework can be and it really is
shocking because we assumesomebody's building a house.
He's like you're probablyreally good at what you do.
You assume other people are too, but you can't do that,
especially in construction.
Maria Maldonado Smith (14:38):
Right, right.
I mean, these are people'shomes, this is where they're,
this is where you're supposed tofeel the safest, is in your
home, and and I know we hadtalked to you about our kitchen
I mean, our kitchen looksbeautiful, but within two months
, we were losing pieces off thebottom, and, and so, and at this
point, it's like there's notenough gorilla glue to keep it
(15:00):
on.
George Siegal (15:01):
Yeah, and that's frustrating.
It's like if you had just doneit right.
I think every builder orsomebody in construction should
have to live for a little bit inthe house that they build to
experience the quality or lackthereof of their work, and maybe
that would change some things,but I don't know.
Maria Maldonado Smith (15:18):
Yeah, yeah, and I understand.
I mean, we ended up meeting acontractor who was great and he
worked independently and weended up hiring him to do
several projects around the home.
And one of the things he didmention to us was um, you know
he, he came out and said hey,your baseboards are beautiful,
but just FYI, they aremanufactured.
(15:41):
They are going to be cheaper inquality.
They will most likely any ding,dent.
You know they're going to chipeasy, and they have.
And he said but you know theycan be replaced.
And he said because you haveyoung children, you, you have.
You guys have a busy life.
Um, you have a dog, you havepets that are going to scratch
at it, and our dogs have Uh andso.
(16:02):
So we were okay with that, butwe found that out after the fact
.
So one thing he suggested wasif your crown moldings is
something you really want topreserve and take care of, then
I just suggest that you do woodon on the top.
And he said because they'lllast a lot longer and it'll be
more expensive, but it'll bemore worth it in the end.
And so that's what weultimately we chose to do was to
(16:25):
install wood for our crownmoldings and keep the baseboards
as the I think he called it MDF.
George Siegal (16:34):
So yeah, absolutely.
So, looking back on what you'veexperienced, especially in this
most recent house, what advicewould you have for people so
they could maybe avoid themistakes you have, and sometimes
it's unavoidable.
Sometimes you would you havefor people so they could maybe
avoid the mistakes you have, andsometimes it's unavoidable.
Sometimes you don't have time,sometimes you just have to rush
into something.
Are there things you could havedone that maybe you could have
caught some of this on the frontside?
Maria Maldonado Smith (16:53):
So possibly, possibly we found the
pictures of what our home lookedlike before they remodeled it
after the fact, and so we had todo a little digging for that
and I will say that they, they,they, looking like reflecting.
Now they did a lot with whatthis home used to look like.
There were a lot of mirrors onwalls, there was carpet
(17:16):
everywhere and the bathroomsweren't nearly as nice.
So they did replace and theydid update and upgrade quite a
bit.
I would say one thing that I afew things that I now know to
look for if we go to move again,and just that I've learned is
(17:36):
the foundation.
I mean, really think about andlook at the foundation, the
wiring, have a home inspectiondone, but have them pay more to
have them do a more thoroughhome inspection, because you can
catch things on the homeinspection.
If you say, I want like thebells and whistles and it's
going to cost you more money,but like walk the note, not just
(17:56):
walk the roof, but really walkthe roof, like checking tiles,
making sure that things aresturdy, because those are the
things that you don't thinkabout and that you don't want to
have to spend your moneyreplacing, but you'd rather know
upfront if you, if you have to,or if that's going to be a path
.
I would say that's probably wasthe biggest benefit that we had
when in in finding a homeinspector.
That was really good, becausehe taught us that home
(18:20):
inspections actually aresomething that you should do
regularly, not just when you'regoing to buy or sell a home, and
that by doing so you're goingto prevent so many more
additional costs when you do goto sell.
And so that's why, when we werein Nashville and we felt very
comfortable, very pleased whenwe listed our home we needed to
move quickly.
We moved during the summertimeand we had a timeline.
We had to sell within a finiteamount of time because we had to
(18:43):
get kids into a new schoolsystem.
Three different kids in threedifferent schools in a new
community.
I mean, there's just a lot youhave to think about.
Look at floods, look at thefloodplain.
You know what level, what zoneare you in.
Because, for insurance, that'ssomething that we we also
learned, and so we're a littlebit further inland, we're more
West and so not as close to thebeach, but making sure that you
(19:06):
can obtain the right insurancethat you need, that's going to
be full coverage that's going toprovide you if, in a
catastrophic event, you would becovered because homes are
expensive to replace.
So I would say that you know,make sure that the bones, you
know the foundation, the bones,the structure, and then you know
, looking at things, especiallyin South Florida, looking at,
(19:27):
you know, has the home everflooded before?
Have you ever had any majorissues?
And then, to your point earlier,go drive around.
We drove around a few times, youknow, more kind of morning,
noon, afternoon, night, just tosee, and what we noticed was
there was a good amount of kids.
The pandemic brought anonslaught of more, which has
(19:47):
been great because there's morekids throughout the community.
And so you know that if there'sfamilies in your community,
then they most likely have thesame types of thoughts, feelings
and objectives as you, which isto get up every day, go to work
, support their family, have agood, safe place to live and
they want to take care of it.
The other piece that I will addin and I don't know how to
(20:08):
mitigate this or prepare peoplefor it, but maybe check out your
HOA, because you can have somethat are wonderful to work with
and then you can have some thatwant to nitpick and just fine
you out the yin yang for everylittle thing, and I want to live
in a community where I get it.
I don't want hot pink houseseither, but I also understand
(20:31):
that there are little projectshere and there that I would like
to do in my home, and to gothrough a three-month process is
really frustrating when youwant to make a move on something
.
George Siegal (20:41):
Yeah, I agree with you, but I'll tell you the
other side of it.
There's no HOA where I live andit's the wild, wild west.
You can leave a boat on thestreet in front of your house.
You can leave your trash cansout, you could let your lawn go
and nobody's going to sayanything.
So when you live in a clean,well-groomed neighborhood, those
are the things that may be apain to do your little projects
(21:02):
but you gain a lot more controlover the look of everything, and
that's frustrating when itlooks bad.
Maria Maldonado Smith (21:08):
Yes, yes, I think it's, oh, and
absolutely.
I like I said yeah, I mean, Ilove that we have and they, they
, they take care of the, youknow the, and they take care of
the entrance area.
We live in a gated community,which I didn't realize that most
everywhere in South Florida isgated.
That was something that was newto us, Because in Nashville you
just have a lot of wide openneighborhoods that you just
drive through because you have alot of land in between each
(21:29):
home.
But that was something new downhere that we learned is most
every home we would go to see,and that's actually what made
when we were moving to Nashvillea little bit easier because we
could just drive by homes thatwe wanted In South Florida.
You have to have a gate code oryou have to be able to be let
in, and so it made it harder forus to just like shop around.
So we had to more look at the,the neighborhoods and the
(21:53):
surroundings.
We couldn't really go in andsee them unless we had
appointments through a realestate agent.
George Siegal (21:58):
It's also a good test.
I like the neighborhoods thatdon't let me in to drive around
because that means they'restopping people.
I want them checking people.
Now you have an interestingbackground.
You're a beauty contestant,pageant winner.
You're a working mom.
I was reading about what you doand it goes way over my head.
Just tell us briefly what it isthat you do in your day job
(22:20):
that takes up all your time.
Maria Maldonado Smith (22:22):
Yes, I transform corporate teams
through neuroscience theneuroscience of goal setting,
habit formation and then thepower of vision imagery.
So I essentially take thescience behind the way our brain
works and operates in order tohelp us achieve what we want,
and I couple that, combine itwith the power of visualization
(22:45):
and visual imagery.
And, interestingly enough, Iwas thinking about this before
we had our conversation and I'mincredibly visual, and so
whenever I've walked into a homethat's why I say I could live
in a construction zone Icouldn't do it consistently, but
I don't mind projects, becauseI love seeing it come to life, I
(23:07):
love seeing the start to thefinish of it.
So we remodeled our laundryroom.
I'm one of the weirdos thatenjoys doing laundry, and so I
love having a clean, nice,beautiful space to do that in,
and so when we were remodelingit, I realized, okay, there were
certain things that I wanted incertain places, based on
laundry rooms that I had been in, and they're not very
(23:28):
functional.
So I was like I want mine to bevery functional, I want to know
exactly where things are.
So I created the visual for it.
I created a little mood board,so to speak, that you would call
it.
You know, pinterest, whateveryou know.
But I just put some things onCanva, printed it out, gave it
to our our contractor at thetime and just said listen, this
is the aesthetic that I'm goingfor you.
(23:49):
You now use your expertise, youtell me the best materials, the
best qualities, all of that.
80% of us are visual learners.
I mean we.
We are.
We prefer visuals because itgives our brain something to go
on.
It gives us a path like oh, Isee it, now I can process it.
It's hard.
Sometimes my husband walks intoa home and I talk about tearing
down a wall or doing this andhe's like I can't see it.
(24:11):
I just I don't, I doesn't.
He's not wired that way.
And so it's really cool becausewhen I work with people like
him in corporations, I saysometimes this is the disconnect
between our brain being able toaccomplish the goal and
actually and it coming tofruition.
The missing link is you don'thave the visual, you're not
seeing.
You understand that there is agoal or you understand there's
(24:35):
an end result, but how we getthere could be expedited by
accompanying it with visuals.
George Siegal (24:43):
Now you also have a podcast.
Maria Maldonado Smith (24:45):
I do.
It's called creating the vision.
George Siegal (24:47):
Okay, and it talks about the kind of things
you visually making thingshappen.
Maria Maldonado Smith (24:53):
Yes, and I think that there's the dual
concept.
There is that, yes, I talkabout the transformation that I
have with teams and corporationsthat I've been honored to work
with, but I also, internally, wehave a vision for the life that
we want to live.
So we all have, and are guidedby some form or vision of where
(25:13):
it is we want to go, and so Ilove sharing stories.
I'm excited to share your storyabout you know, about your
documentary and how that allcame together and also how you
have, you know, you pivoted inyour life and kind of created a
new vision for the futuredirection of where you're headed
.
So it's it's cool to be able toto discuss it in both aspects,
both entrepreneurially,corporately, and then just how
(25:35):
are we getting up every day andliving our life and creating
that vision?
George Siegal (25:38):
Wow.
Well, you certainly have enoughenergy, so I bet you're great
at what you do.
I appreciate you coming on.
All your contact information,how people can get ahold of you,
will be in the show notes sopeople can easily find you.
And good luck during hurricaneseason.
Let's hope it's easy for all ofus.
Maria Maldonado Smith (25:55):
I know you and me both right, we'll be
hunkered down.
Yes, I'm nervous about this one.
It's the first year I've everbeen nervous.
George Siegal (26:02):
Yeah, knowledge is dangerous.
I'm nervous about all of them.
Thanks, maria.
I appreciate you coming on.
Thank you, I know a lot of youlistening have experienced all
kinds of things, either as ahomeowner or a renter.
Well, there's a contact form inthe show notes.
Fill it out and send it my way.
You could be a guest to shareyour story on an upcoming
podcast.
(26:22):
Thanks again for taking thetime to listen today.
I'll see you next time.
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