August 1, 2025 • 53 mins
What if face-planting onto a tile floor from three feet up turned out to be the most transformative moment of your life? For Jen Mitchell Love, a family law attorney with 19 years of experience, that's exactly what happened during what should have been a routine (albeit admittedly ill-advised) breathwork session in a steam room.
Upon regaining consciousness with blood pooling around her, Jen received a visit from her ancestors, along with a clear message: "You have come here to do big things, and you need to do them!" What followed were five days of extraordinary experiences that completely transformed her perception of reality ("was that a glitch...in the sky?") and her life's purpose.
After recognizing that the conventional divorce system destroys families rather than helping them heal, Jen transformed her legal practice into Solace Divorce Mediation. Now she guides couples through divorce as a soul journey, incorporating concepts of reflection, soul contracts, and inner healing into the legal process.
Jen's story is ultimately about navigating life—do we externalize our problems, blaming others and circumstances, or do we look inward to discover the reflections that can lead to our evolution?
Find more info about Jen, her book, and her work in the show notes for this episode, which live at HomespunHaints.com/fifth-dimension-divorce
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Go to a good school, get a profitable degree, get
that coveted job, join the ratrace.
We all learn from a young agethat this is the sequence we are
supposed to follow, that if wedeviate from this path we're
somehow doing it wrong.
But as long as you bring homethe paycheck and you get a pat
(00:22):
on the back from the boss,you've lived your life correctly
.
Sometimes it takes divineintervention to break free from
this system, and perhaps that'sexactly what happened to our
guest when she fell on thatfateful day several years ago.
Her whole worldview changed,and so did her life, and so did
the lives of those she helps,and you're going to hear all
(00:46):
about it today on HomespunHaints.
Hello, hainted Loves, welcometo Homespun Haints.
I'm Becky.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
Hey, I'm Diana.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
Today on the show, we are bringing on a really,
really exciting guest for youall.
I don't think we've everinterviewed anybody quite like
her.
She has a really unusual career.
She is a family law attorney,but she helps people who are
going through divorce on theirspiritual journey through
(01:19):
divorce.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
Which is awesome, because when people are getting
divorced, it's so tempting tojust be like, oh I'm sorry, but
most of the time it's likefinally.
Because when people are gettingdivorced, it's so tempting to
just be like, oh, I'm sorry, butmost of the time it's like
finally.
Because when you get to thatpoint, you're at the end of your
rope, but she does it in a waythat actually, like, creates
harmony around the entireprocess, which really intrigued
me.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
Yes, yes.
So we're talking about JenMitchell Love, who is our guest
today, and she's going to talkabout how she got here, with her
career and all of the messagesthat she received from outside
sources, which we mean outsideof your consciousness.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
Outside of our normal sphere of reality.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
Yes, yes, and how she got there.
This is truly going to beunusual, so I think you're
really going to enjoy this.
I found it very inspiring.
I think like in anotherlifetime.
Diana and I just have a podcastwhere we interview people with
strange woo careers.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
That's this podcast, Becky.
That's this life.
That's true.
That's true.
You jumped the timeline andyou're in it.
Here it is.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Yeah, we started out with ghost stories and we have
all this career inspirationmixed in.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
It's amazing how many woo people like have a ghost
story.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
So you are asking about my necklace here, Diana?
Speaker 2 (02:35):
I was.
I guessed that it was some kindof a nasal plate, crib reform
plate.
That's what I thought too.
Maybe it's a cuttlefish bone,maybe it's the inside of a
turtle's scale.
I don't know.
Do turtles have scales?
Speaker 1 (02:51):
I don't know.
I'm not a turtle expert.
However, this is reptilian,it's reptilian.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
Can you give me a hint?
Florida, is it iguanian?
Speaker 1 (03:02):
No.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
Is it crocodilian?
Yeah.
Is it iguanian?
No, is it crocodilian?
Yeah.
Is it an alligator bone?
Speaker 1 (03:10):
It's an alligator vertebrae yeah.
Oh it's a vertebrae, Cool.
I was at a gym show because Iwas going to go hunting for my
crystals and I saw this and itcame on the tail of me being
with my acupuncturist, who toldme she was getting a vision of a
spirit animal for me in theform of an alligator.
I was like what the hell she'slike?
(03:31):
She had to look it up.
She's like I've never heard ofthis before, but I was getting
this weird vision, thisvertebrate.
The person who made it like,who actually wrapped it, was
there selling it and she's like,yeah, I was just at like an
odds and ends oddity, fair and Isaw this bone and I thought I
(03:53):
could make it into a necklace.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
And my mother was like you have to have that,
becky, it's so you.
So my mother bought it for me.
Your animal guide, that's, Iguess.
So do you feel a kinship foralligators, now that you didn't
necessarily notice before I?
Speaker 1 (04:02):
don't know, but they keep popping up.
Like also, a few days afterthat, my husband got a 3D
printer and he just randomlyprinted me an alligator, like he
printed the kids dragons.
And they printed me analligator and he's like do you
want the alligator?
I was like, yeah, that's weird.
Okay, why?
Like I don't even live inFlorida, I have a healthy
respect for alligators.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
I've seen plenty of alligators, I think this is
turning out like my, my braceletstory.
The one that I found in thestore that spoke to me the
loudest was the ugliest one,with all of my least favorite
colors.
I was like, well, I guess I'mgoing to be wearing this color
for a while and it really, youknow, it really did seem to
psychologically do some, somevibrations for me, so I was
(04:43):
happy.
So maybe the alligator, thoughugly and originally not your
favorite animal, wouldeventually become I don't think
they're ugly.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
They're not ugly, no, they're amazing, beautiful,
graceful creatures.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
I thought they were amazing graceful ugly creatures.
I mean it looks like a turd ora log floating in the water.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
You cannot tell it's.
Don't say that about my gatorsyou can't tell it's an animal.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
I've always had a healthy respect for alligators.
I've always had a healthyrespect for semi-trucks, but
that doesn't mean they'rebeautiful.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
Actually, what I wanted to talk about today has
absolutely nothing to do withalligators.
It's more in the realm of thecrocodile, and that is Egyptian
mummies.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
I get it Okay, okay, yes, I will talk about mummies
with you all day, even though Ido find them slightly
intimidating.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
I love mummies.
You know, when I was a kid andI would get scared at night
thinking there were ghosts in myroom, because they probably
were I would just imagine thatmy room was filled with mummies
and it would make me feel better.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
Oh, that wouldn't have made me feel better.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
Oh look, it's Imhotep getting out of his sarcophagus
and walking around Tromp, tromp,tromp, and I'd be like, okay,
that's not your average 19thcentury Appalachian ghost,
that's an ancient Egyptian mummythat I hear and that would make
me feel better.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
That's bizarre, is it ?
That would not have made mefeel better.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
Anyway, I love mummies.
Everywhere I go, I seek out themummies.
I was recently in Italy.
I can't even tell you how manymummies I saw there, because
there were so many mummies.
I love mummies, but I justlearned of this new project
that's going on at the CairoMuseum about mummies, and they
(06:30):
are putting a lot of time andenergy and resources and
manpower behind investigatinghow Egyptian mummies smell,
smell, smell.
Yeah, why?
They're like putting thesetubes into the slits in the
(06:53):
sarcophagus and like expellingair out into these like bags, or
taking like tiny littlescrapings and putting them in
this machine.
And then there's like this tubethat goes over your nose and
they're like.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
So the kids are huffing mummies nowadays.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
Okay, let me, let me get to that.
Yeah, so the, the, the.
What they're doing with thekids they're bringing in, like
professional perfumers andthings.
You know people who sniffthings for a living to identify
what like a sommelier formummies, but they don't taste
the mummies yet.
Thank you, that might be thenext step.
Oh, please, don't taste themummies.
Oh, no, they're sniffing them.
(07:30):
They've got like this littletube or or like the mask that
you have when you're airlinepilot or you're doing one of
those breathing tests on atreadmill so that every puff is
exclusively mummy scent.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
No outside information coming in.
Guess what mummies smell like?
I'm gonna guess beef jerky.
No, no Oysters.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
Well, that might be a reason to taste them.
If that's your kink, get somechocolate, dipped strawberries
and some champagne while you'reat it Less than you need tonight
, baby.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
Mummy, mummy, mummy smell, what about like vellum.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
They do have like a little bit of a rotting wood
smell, but like rotting wood isvery fragrant.
I remember when I was a kid wehad a chunk of cedar.
I don't know why.
We had this chunk of randomcedar just sitting on the side
of the house and my father leftit there so it could decompose.
And then after a few years hewould pick it up and be like
take a sniff.
Oh my God.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
Kids gather around and sniff the log again.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
It's that time of year.
Have I mentioned that my dad isa chemist?
He had a very weird upbringing.
It was either sniff this orlook at this glow.
Yeah, this was my childhood.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
What kid doesn't like ?
Watch me set this on fire.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
There was a lot of that too, anyway.
So yeah, we would sniff thecedar, and the cedar smells so
good, right, it's like this likewhen wood rots, it actually
puts out this really fragrant,beautiful smell.
It's completely different fromwhen a squirrel rots.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
Also fragrant, not so beautiful.
Yeah, I have a cousin who'scurrently finishing an art
installation that has the odorof rotting squirrel in it
specifically.
Wow For a multi-sensoryexperience.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
Okay, well, I'm going to include a link of a video
that Reuters put out about thisexperiment that's going on in
Cairo, and your cousin can watchthat and feel validated about
there, wait are you saying thatmummies smell like roadkill
Mm-mm.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
Oh good.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
I'm just saying that smell can be an important part
of any sort of installation,because this is going to be the
case, so let me continue, allright.
So anyway, we've got the woodsmell, you're right on that.
And then think about theembalming oils that would be
used.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
Think old, old.
I don't know the specifics, doyou yeah?
Speaker 1 (09:46):
Archaeologist tell me Duh.
Well, I mean, they're stilllearning about the oils that
would be used too through thesniff test.
But, as you can probably thoseof you listening right now
you're probably already thinkingthings like frankincense, myrrh
, cinnamon.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
Okay, okay, that sounds delicious.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
It is.
It is I mean, we're talkinglike three, four, 5,000 years
here.
Right, that this thing has beensitting.
So they're trying to do withthe sniff test is to learn more
about what essential oils wereused in the mummification
process.
Also, they'll be able tomonitor if the mummy is decaying
(10:30):
or not by constantly sniffingJust doing a sniff test, I guess
every month, like, oh, that'sstarting to smell a little
seedier than before.
It was starting to smell morelike the dead rodent thing.
So then they can kind of keepan eye on it.
I mean, they do have spectacularpreservation techniques now,
but they didn't when they firststarted, like pulling these
(10:52):
things out of tombs and thingsover 100 years ago.
And I mean, I mean there's somany mummies, they used to use
them as fuel in trains, likethey used to just like throw a
whole mummy down the chute andburn it up.
We have a lot more respect forthem now.
Yes, the cool thing though Ithink that is most fascinating
about what they're doing withthese smells is, now that
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they're identifying them, theyplan to replicate them and then
emit them in the rooms where themuseum goers go, so the museum
goers can then.
This is exactly what they weresaying.
The museum goers can smell thesmell of the mummies themselves
as they walk around it andcreate an emotional attachment
(11:38):
in their minds to connect tothat smell Because, as you know,
olfactory memories are some ofthe strongest.
They're also some of thestrongest hauntings.
It's like a way to connectpeople you know, especially in
Egypt, to their heritage, tocreate an emotional connection
to being and also just to like,help enhance the experience,
like, oh, I'm really smellingwhat it would have been like.
(11:59):
I love this idea.
I love how these, you know,exhibits are starting to really
take into mind that it's notjust about the sights, it's also
about the sounds, the feels,the smells.
I don't know how they're goingto incorporate taste yet, but I
bet those mummy scientists aregoing to figure something out.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
Cinnamon has a lot of culinary uses.
I'm sure they'll figure it out.
Cinnamon and slightly rottingwood.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
So maybe you could come out afterward and they can
give you like cinnamon bark.
Call it mummy fingers.
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Love, a former divorce attorney.
I believe Correct, jen.
I'm still licensed, but I don'tparticipate in that broken
system.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
What a statement.
That's awesome.
Jen has had so many amazingexperiences and one in
particular that she's going toshare with us today that have
opened up her mind, enlightenedher and now, as she says, she
exists in the fifth dimensionand she is here to share her
(15:17):
knowledge and her experienceswith us so that we may also
learn from her and learn thateverything that she has done.
I think this is going to be avery, very inspirational
conversation.
Jen, thank you so much forbeing here with us today.
Speaker 3 (15:31):
Thank you for having me.
You're both so gorgeous.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
You shine so bright.
Speaker 3 (15:35):
This is going to be so fun.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
So, jen, tell us, where are you located.
Speaker 3 (15:39):
I am in Boulder, Colorado, oh of course you are I
know it's so beautiful here.
I'm from Chicago, I'm licensedas an attorney in Chicago and
I've been an attorney for 19years.
I was litigating for the firstnine years and then, 10 years
ago, I had three kids in 39months and my kids helped me to
(16:00):
realize, I know, and we didn'thave a daycare, babysitter,
nanny, it was me with my ownlegal practice.
But they came in and theyshowed me that the work I was
doing in the family law courtsystem was destroying children
and people and families and myimpact in that space.
I didn't like the energy and Ididn't want my kids to grow up
(16:20):
seeing me doing that.
So the last decade, I have beenfocused on a new way to get a
divorce, which is through love,empowerment and growth, and the
story that I want to share withyou was a big turning point for
me.
It happened July 22nd 2023.
So it's wild to think that it'salmost two years ago that this
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happened and I started myspiritual journey in June of
2014.
So that's when my third wasborn of 2014.
So that's when my third wasborn.
So this had been, you know, 10years in this really intense
space of self-exploration, goingto different conferences,
reading different books.
And then I started my plantmedicine journey in September
(17:05):
2021.
And that was my first ayahuascaceremony and that opened just
so much space for me as aspiritual being, having a human
experience and really embracingthat and sitting in that.
And all of this has been sharedwith my clients, all of the
learnings that I've receivedfrom these experiences.
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And now solace my legalpractice is solace divorce
mediation.
And now I'm talking about soulcontracts with my clients.
You know the soul contract ofmarriage and how they're the
only two people that can mirrorand reflect to one another.
You know what their soul camehere to learn and I see my work
now even though I still amlicensed as an attorney and I
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still practice family law and Ihelp them through the legal
process but I see my work now ashelping them to recognize the
reflections you know.
And now we're talking about theway it makes you feel and did
you feel that way as a child,and so it's really looking at
generational lineage, ways ofbeing and trauma and beliefs
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that have been passed down thatpeople navigate their whole life
with you know over and over andover again have been passed
down that people navigate theirwhole life with you know, over
and over and over again, theykeep getting the same pattern,
and so the divorce journey isnow turning into a soul journey
where I'm helping people releasethe attachments to that space
of marriage and shift intoanother space.
And when children are involved,it's like, well, this is
amazing.
You know you're still a family.
(18:29):
Your children chose you.
They knew that this was goingto happen.
It doesn't have to bedestructive.
It can be really loving andempowering and it's beautiful to
shift into a new space thatfeels good and then open your
heart chakra again and attractnew love.
Now your family is bigger.
It's like this whole amazingthing.
So, but this story was a reallybig shifting point for me.
(18:52):
Okay, why don't we jump rightinto it?
Okay, so it was July 22nd 2023.
I'm part of a breathworktraining course thing and my
really dear friend is abreathwork and shamanic
practitioner and so he wouldhost these and he's still doing
it.
His name is Jacques Theron andhe's amazing, and it was
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Saturday morning.
His breathwork was from 10 AMuntil 1 PM, so it's a three hour
, three hour span.
Every weekend I go to the gym.
I mean, I go to the gym mostdays, but, but the days that I'd
have this breathwork course.
I go to East Boulder Rec thathas a steam room and I'm a
swimmer, so I go there and Iswim and I steam and I hot tub.
(19:38):
So this morning I go to the, Igo to the gym, I go in the steam
room and I always do breathworkin the steam room.
So breathwork is so the one thatI do in the steam room is
called 44 breaths, and so youbreathe in, you know seven deep
breaths, so it's like, and youdo seven of those, and then you
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do 14 medium breaths, so that'slike, and then you do three sets
of seven, so 21 shallow breaths.
So it's like, and when you'redoing these three different
breaths, you're activatingdifferent parts of your brain.
And and most people when I,when I have shared this story,
(20:19):
they're like why are you doingbreath work in a steam room?
Like you shouldn't be doingbreath work in a steam room.
And my response is always thesame.
It's like well, I like to do itin the steam room and sauna
because when I do it in there Iget to the ether faster because
it's so hot.
You know what I mean.
So I get to that space of theether really, really quickly and
it's just like the space of thesubconscious connection to the
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divine and the conscious mindisn't thinking anymore.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
And when you're in a really, really hot environment
like that too, sometimes itfeels like your body doesn't
have a boundary right, Becauseyour skin temperature has no
difference from the roomtemperature, and so you're like
where am I?
Speaker 3 (21:01):
Where am I not?
That's how I feel.
Yes, diana, that's exactly it.
So you got to add breath workto it.
It just makes it even moreintense.
So I do one round, and Iusually do three rounds of this.
44 breaths, right.
So I do one round and then I goswim.
I go swim a mile, went in thehot tub and then I went back
into the steam room and I havetwo more rounds to do.
So I do one round again.
Now, after you do the shallowthe 21 shallow you breathe in,
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you breathe out and then youbreathe all the way in.
And when I'm in the steam roomI'm like like this, like I'm
sitting up, like this like myhands and I'm just like getting
all of the energy from the ether.
So you breathe all the way in,and then you breathe all the way
out, and then you breathe inagain and then you breathe all
the way out and that last breathis called the breath of death.
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And so when you're breathing,when you breathe everything out
right, the breath of death I amintentionally thinking.
I'm like I just breathe in allthis prana, all this good divine
energy that is going into everycell of my body, and then I'm
going to breathe out the breathof death and I'm breathing all
of the old ways of thinking youknow that I talked about earlier
(22:08):
with the soul contracts and thechildhood beliefs like I'm
breathing out all those old waysthat do not serve me anymore.
So the second after the firstround, I had a little hesitancy
doing the third round and it wasweird because I usually never
have hesitancy, but it was alittle hesitancy.
But I'm a very intense person,I'm a Virgo.
I'm like I'm going to do it,you know.
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So I do the third and I do thebreath of death and I'm like
this in the steam room, okay,and I'm holding, holding my
breath.
And the next thing I know Ihear this really loud noise that
I couldn't put into words butlater in the story I can.
So I hear this loud noise and Iwake up and I'm on the floor of
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the steam room.
And I wake up and I'm on thefloor of the steam room and I
think other people are there.
Now I was on the second seat,so that's about like between
three to three and a half feetoff the ground, and now I'm on
the tile, cement floor and Ithink other people are in there
and I don't know what I'm doingthere.
So I'm a little embarrassed, soI'm like, oh my God, and I'm
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thinking like, like, oh my God,like.
And I'm thinking like, oh myGod, and I said it again, I'm
like, oh my God.
And then I looked down andthere's blood all over the floor
.
So the third, the third oh myGod.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
I was like oh my God, I passed out.
Speaker 3 (23:22):
Like I fucking passed out, like I really I passed out
doing breath work and it hadalmost happened before and it
almost happened before, like I'dbeen a little woozy before but
I never passed out.
And then I was like, oh my gosh, and I'm like I passed out from
this from three feet up.
I face planted onto the tilecement floor of the steam room.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
So it's not even like you slid down, like you went
forward.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
No, I went forward and, face planted onto the tile,
cement floor, like I shared I'man attorney.
The first day of law school Istill remember 2003, my civil
procedure professor saying youare all here because you don't
like medical stuff, you don'tlike the sight of blood, and
that is true.
Like I go from zero to ahundred in a moment with
anything medical, like I justfreak out all the time.
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So when I realized this, Istart to freak out and all of a
sudden I hear a voice and it's areally, and no one is in the
steam room with me, it's just me.
I hear a voice and the voice,really low, says to me breathe.
So I'm like okay.
So I start breathing the waythat I was breathing breath work
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and I'm being trained at this.
Now I'm trained, now I'm afacilitator, but I'm being
trained.
So I start breathing and at thispoint I can feel both of my
grandmothers, and they were likethis.
They were like above me, likethis, and they were giving me
all of this maternal lovingenergy.
And one of my grandmother'sdied in 1994, the other died in
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2005.
So I could feel them both verystrongly above me in the steam
room, giving me so much love.
And then the voice says to meit's still in the very low voice
.
You have come here to do bigthings and you need to do them.
So I'm like, ok, so I'mbreathing, and breathing, and
breathing, and I grab my cap andgoggles, I grab my water bottle
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, like I was calm from breathing.
No one is in, no one is in thesteam room.
And then I go in in the lockerroom and I and, like I said, I'm
a swimmer, so I swim like sixdays a week and I was a
competitive swimmer, so this isvery comfortable and I know this
space.
So I go right into the lockerroom and I go right to this
shower Because I'm like I'm notgoing to look at my face yet,
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because I don't know if I haveteeth anymore, I don't know if I
like broke my nose I have noidea where the blood.
I intuitively went like this,but I didn't know what it was.
So I'm in the cold shower andit's the amazing part of this
too is, in Boulder, colorado,people are like very into
fitness and stuff and this is aSaturday morning at like.
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Probably at this point it'slike 9, 930.
No one was in the steam roomwith me and no one was in the
locker room which is amazing.
Because if anyone would havebeen in either of those
locations, they would havesnapped me out of this space
that I was super zen ofbreathing.
So I kept breathing.
So I'm in the shower.
I have, you know, water goingon my face and there's blood.
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I'm kicking the blood in thedrain because there's so much
blood.
So, finally, I'm like, ok, I'mgoing to look to see what I did.
I'm going to see what I did.
So I go in the mirror, I lookin the mirror.
There's nothing on my face.
I lift, I look up and there's ahole in the bottom of my chin,
but that's it.
Like I didn't like nothing wasmy head wasn't hurting, it was
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wild.
The lifeguard comes in because Ihear someone say there's blood
in the steam room.
The lifeguard comes in.
This 18 year old she does thereport.
I'm still breathing, I'mgetting dressed with one hand.
I even put my bra on with onehand, which I still.
I mean that's amazing, right.
And I put lotion on my face.
I brushed my hair.
Then I sent a text to myex-husband and we lived in
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Chicago In 2022, we relocated toBoulder with our three kids and
our two cats and we moved intogether again.
So we're living together, notromantically, but I text him and
he knows me, of course, verywell and I'm like I just passed
out doing breath work in thesteam room and I face planted on
the tile, cement floor, and Ithink I need stitches.
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So I come home.
I get home at 9.57 am, so Ihave my phone, I hand it to my
eldest son, harvey, and I'm likehere, harv find the Zoom link
for the breath work that I'mdoing at 10.
And so he finds it.
I get my earbuds and mydaughter, who who's 12, and my
ex-husband are both looking atme like what is wrong with her?
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Like what is she talking about?
She's going to do breathwork.
Speaker 2 (27:54):
So I'm like okay what do you?
Speaker 3 (27:55):
guys.
I'm like I'm going to go, youknow I'm going to do breathwork,
but before I go, what do youthink Like?
Do you think I need stitches?
So I'm like this, they're cansee bone underneath, I know.
So they're both.
They both make that same face.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
It's like they're so grossed out, they're so grossed
out.
Speaker 3 (28:13):
They're like yes, you need stitches.
And I'm like, okay, I'm goingto go upstairs and I'm going to
do breath work for three hoursand I'm going to heal myself and
then I'm going to figure outwhat I'm going to do from there.
So they're like, okay, andagain my family knows me, so
this is not like totally foreignto them.
They're like, okay, mom's goingto do breath work.
So I go upstairs and I'mbreathing the whole time and I'm
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laying and I have my gauze andan ice pack like propped up.
Speaker 2 (28:38):
Holding the blood in your body Exactly While you're
working on healing.
Speaker 3 (28:44):
While I'm intentionally working on healing
, I text my friend who's in thegroup and I tell her what
happened.
She's like why are you on thiscall?
You need to go to urgent care.
I'm like I'm going to healfirst.
So during this whole time Iwasn't exploring like very much.
I wasn't.
I didn't want to know what Idid like I did as far as like
damage.
Because one thing about me is Ireally don't like Western
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medicine in the sense that it'sreally not my modality for
healing.
So like I don't have a doctor,you know I don't.
I don't even take Tylenol, Idon't take scripts, I don't do
any of that stuff Like I healfrom the earth, I heal from the
sun, I heal from meditating.
So for me it was like I didn'twant to know what I did.
So there's a little break beforelike the actual hour of breath
(29:30):
work.
So there's like a five minutebreak and Jacques is like okay,
go get some water, you know, dowhatever you want.
So I come downstairs and Ithink I was getting coffee.
My daughter was sitting thereand again she's 12.
So she has like all this girldrama, you know, and she's
talking to me about her friendblah blah blah, reina did this,
yada yada yada and I realizedwhen she was talking I bit down
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and I was like, oh my gosh, I'mlike I can't.
I can't listen to your dramaright now, because I just
realized that my jaw is out ofalignment.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
So when I would bite?
Speaker 3 (30:01):
when I bite down, this side would touch, but this
side wasn't touching.
And so then I was like I'm likeI need to focus on this hour of
breath work.
I'm going to intentionally healmy jaw and put it back into
alignment because I cannot likeI could if I had to, but like
doing a surgery, going throughsurgery for me is just like, oh
(30:23):
my God, I would die.
Yeah, I just would die.
So I told her I have to do this.
So then, at this point sheasked me a question and out of
all the questions she could haveasked me because I told her
what happened Out of all thequestions she asked me, she
chose to ask me this question.
She said, mom, when you woke up,you said you heard that sound.
(30:44):
What did that sound like?
And I was like I couldn't putit into words.
And I was, but I could.
I was hearing it in my mind.
I just kept hearing the sound,but I couldn't put it into words
and it was kind of like PTSD,like it was.
Like I was kind of, it was likeI could hear it.
And she looks at me and she'slike like an egg cracking.
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That bitch heard mysubconscious.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
Cause kids are energetic, like that you know
what I mean.
Speaker 3 (31:12):
And I was like, oh my God, baby, I'm like, yes, like
a giant egg cracking.
That's what it sounded likewhen I woke up.
So I go upstairs, I do the hourof breath work, I realign my
jaw.
My jaw now is touching, becausethe whole time in breath work
I'm focusing energy is onhealing my jaw.
I send you know, jack, andeverybody love, I'm like giving
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him kisses.
I close the thing and I waslike, all right, let's go to
urgent care.
So we go to urgent care.
I had five stitches and five isthe number of change.
So I'm like this is amazing.
So I walk out of of the place.
So I come home, I go in mygarage, I'm sitting.
We live in a space of CourtBoulder.
There's like beautiful trees,the sun is out, and I'm just
(31:55):
like trying to processeverything that happened.
And I'm just sitting and I hadpurchased Barbie tickets.
This is when Barbie, the movie,was big.
I had purchased Barbie ticketsfor like 6 o'clock PM that night
and so I'm like, okay, well, Ifeel okay, like I'm not
physically hurt, like I havethis.
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It wasn't even swollen, it was.
It was amazing.
So I tell everyone I'm like youknow what?
I'm just going to go upstairsin bed and just rest for a
little bit.
So now I go upstairs in bed andboth my grandmothers are there
again, but now they're different, I know, but now they're
different.
Now they're really excited andmy, my paternal, my dad's mother
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, she tells me, go get them.
That's what she tells me, goget them.
And then my other grandma tellsme the world is your oyster.
And so I'm like, okay, likethis is kind of interesting.
So while I'm resting, my guidestell me do not eat popcorn at
the movie theater.
And I'm like, okay, like still,I'm still in the space of like
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okay, like, how am I okay?
Like, how am I okay when I face, planted unconscious onto a
tile, cement floor from three tothree and a half feet up, like
145 pounds, like how is thateven possible?
I didn't chip anything, likeeverything was fine.
So we go to the movie that nightand I can't help myself because
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in Boulder their popcorn, theylike add lime to it or something
.
It's so good.
And I get a little side dishwith my diet coke and then I'll
put like popcorn and I put dietcoke on it, so it's like sweet
and savory, but it's like such atreat, you know.
And so I'm there with my familyand I'm just like you know what
I I went through a lot todaylike I'm just gonna have popcorn
(33:42):
.
And so we go into the movietheater and you, they're doing
the previews and I start eatingthe popcorn.
And then, all of a sudden, I'mlike, oh my gosh, and I chipped
a tooth from a popcorn kernel.
I don't chip any of these teethfrom falling face planting on a
tile yes, on the tile on thefloor but I chip a little bit
(34:04):
from and it's just in the back alittle one.
But I was like oh my gosh, likeokay, thank you, and I usually
am very diligent.
I always say like I'm a verydiligent human.
When my guides give me messages, I do them, I don't question
them.
So that one, you know, that'swhat happens.
So I go home, I go to bed.
The next morning, I wake up andI have symmetrical bruises on
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both of my palms.
Right here I have thissymmetrical.
Both shoulders.
I have symmetrical bruises onboth sides like ribs.
It's sore and equal andsymmetrical, but there's no
bruising.
And then above both kneecaps Ihave these, these bruises above
my kneecaps and it's like, oh mygosh.
(34:48):
That means that when I fell, Ifell in perfect symmetry.
I mean this is not and that'sthe.
It's like what?
Like, how is that possible?
Like, how is that possible thatI fell in complete symmetry?
(35:08):
And I go to the steam room allthe time and the distance
between you know, I was on thesecond seat, so the distance
between the back and the bottomseat my legs go over that.
So if I put my feet here, myknee is here and the bruises
were on top of my knees, so it'slike how did that happen?
Speaker 2 (35:31):
How did that happen?
I don't know.
Did they fold underneath you orsomething?
Speaker 3 (35:35):
Or I fell all the way and they hit on the top of the
bench, the first level.
Speaker 2 (35:42):
Oh yeah, but it was amazing.
Speaker 3 (35:43):
I mean, I was just like, oh my gosh, thank you,
thank you, guides, for like,carrying me through this and
falling in perfect symmetry.
So that was day one, day twothere's five days.
So day two, my daughter had herfriend that she was talking
about the drama with.
They were, they were trying towatch something on TV and, again
, I still hadn't, like, exploreda lot of of what had happened.
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I was just like, oh, I'm allgood, everything's amazing,
thank you, thank you for puttingthis soft pillow for my landing
.
Everything is great.
And so they were arguing aboutsome whatever they were going to
watch, and I'm like you knowwhat?
I'm right back, I'm going to goto the bathroom, I'm going to
come back.
So I go to the bathroom and allof a sudden I notice I'm like,
oh my gosh, like my tongue isfitting in my mouth, which, when
(36:29):
I say that to you too, youmight be like what is she
talking about?
Of course, your tongue fits inyour mouth, but I have these
like uh-huh, okay, uh-huh,they're like these bones, can
you see them?
Speaker 2 (36:40):
Yeah, yeah, okay, uh-huh, uh-huh so they're.
Speaker 3 (36:41):
They're called something Uh-huh.
So they're called somethingTorrens or something.
And so at this point I'm 46years old.
They always had been to a pointwhere my tongue, when it was
flat, it wasn't underneath myteeth, it was like a little
above it, which never didanything, it wasn't like
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anything.
But I noticed I'm like, oh mygosh, my tongue is fitting in my
mouth.
And then I realized that is theshattering, that was the egg
cracking.
Yes, they move those down andback, yes.
And then one of my good friendsin Boulder works at like a
fancy dentist, like cosmeticdentistry.
She's like girl, that's like a$6,000 surgery.
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I was like oh my gosh, like howamazing that that is what
happened.
You know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (37:28):
Like that's extraordinary, and it could only
have happened in perfectsymmetry, exactly Otherwise it
would have made everything muchworse.
Speaker 3 (37:37):
That's exactly, and look at the scar.
It's right in the middle.
I mean it's like it's amazing,it's amazing.
So that was day two.
So then day three I'm sittingin the garage again because I'm
spending a lot of time outside.
All of a sudden I'm looking inthe sky and I see a glitch in
the sky and I'm like a glitch,yes, and I'm like what is that?
(37:58):
Like what was that?
And then I look again and I seeit again and it's like a glitch
.
It looked like.
It looked like a glitch Like it, like it was like, like it was
like like a program, that waslike something I don't know.
I was like what is that, youknow?
Okay?
So then day four, day four, andthis whole time I haven't been
freaking out, I've been reallyjust like very calm and just
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very grateful to be alive andand thanking the guides,
everything.
So day four comes and ourneighbor sends us a text message
and he's like there are fourbuck in your front yard.
So me and the kids and Aaron allgo to the front of the house
and there are these huge deer,like huge four masculine deer,
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in our front yard and it wassomething about seeing it.
It really kind of rattled me,like it was really, it was.
It felt like very magical.
I'm like oh my gosh, like itwas amazing.
I was like oh my gosh.
And then all of a sudden Istarted feeling a little anxious
.
I just said to everyone Ididn't want to tell him I was
freaking out or I was feelingweird.
So I'm like you know what?
I'm just going to go upstairsand take a shower before dinner.
I'll be, I'll be back, you know, in a little bit.
(39:06):
So I go upstairs, I turn theshower on and I sit down.
You know, the toilet lid isdown.
I sit down on the toilet lidand I'm breathing.
I'm feeling really anxious.
I'm like what is going on?
So I start breathing and then Ilike put my hands out like this
you know when I'm when I'msitting and my bruises are gone,
and this is only day four.
So I then really start freakingout and I'm like, oh my gosh, I
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died, like I died in the steamroom, I died, and and this is
what it is Like they simulateyour life after you die.
Speaker 2 (39:43):
So you don't know.
Speaker 3 (39:45):
And then it's like they're going to, they're going
to gradually tell you and that'swhy bruises, after four days
only, are completely gone.
And I was like, and that iswhat that glitch in the sky was
is that I am really dead?
You know what I mean?
So now I'm now I start cryingand I'm freaking out and my
guides tell me go to your altar.
(40:06):
And I'm like, and my guidestell me, go to your altar.
And I'm like, okay.
So like six months before, I wasgiven the message that I should
create an altar for myspiritual practice.
Then they told me that I shouldgo to this amazing garage sale
in Boulder, which is amazing.
This ties into everything.
So this is like six monthsbefore.
So we go to the amazing garagesale and, like I said, like
anytime I get messages, I'm adiligent human, I'm going to do
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it.
So I go there, I'm looking and Ican't, I can't find any altar.
I'm like this is weird, like Iwonder what it is.
And then there's a wall of art.
And I look at the wall of artand all of a sudden I am like,
just so transfixed on thismosaic Jesus.
And I am not like.
I grew up Catholic but we neverwent to church.
I was just like staring at thismosaic Jesus.
(40:50):
So I bought it Right and I Ihad it in various places and
then I put it in the middle ofmy altar and it's like a cool.
He's like hippie Jesus.
He's cool Like he knew how towalk on water because the dude
figured out the energy of theuniverse and he turned water
into wine because he's fun.
He wants to have fun with people.
Speaker 1 (41:08):
You know what I mean, and he loved everybody.
Speaker 3 (41:09):
He didn't judge anyone.
His best friend was aprostitute.
He didn't care, because whocares what people want to do
with their life, right?
So he was in the middle of myaltar.
So my guides tell me when Istart freaking out you know
sitting in my bathroom that,thinking that I died they're
like go to your altar.
So I go to my altar and I'mstaring again at this Jesus
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mosaic and then all of a suddenI start laughing and I'm like,
oh my gosh, okay.
I'm like, okay, if you can doit, then I can do it too, like
if you lived in this world ofmagic where you could do all of
these things and you wereteaching love to everybody and
compassion and like makingeverything high, vibrational and
fun.
Then I can do that too.
So then everything kind ofcalmed.
(41:52):
And then the fifth day, and thefifth day that was my day of
full integration, where I waslike, okay, five stitches, day
five of processing, everythinghas come together.
And yeah, since then I mean Icame out of that and then I
created my Dwarfs with Lovemasterclass, like two months
later, and I've written a bookand now everything is different,
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where it's like that message ofyou have come here to do big
things and you need to do themis not lost on me, obedient,
human.
Yes, I am, I am diligent.
It's like you tell me something, I will do it.
What do you want me to do?
I'm going to help shift theworld.
I am, I am diligent.
It's like you tell me something, I will do it.
What do you want me to do?
I'm going to help shift theworld.
I was supposed to share thisstory on a podcast like a month
(42:36):
after it happened, and then itdidn't.
It didn't happen, and so I'veshared this with friends, but
it's so fun to share it in thisspace and really, hopefully,
inspire people, you know, tolive their path, because we're
always guided by our angels,masters, guides and ancestors.
You know we're always protectedand we are all here to do
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something.
We wouldn't be alive right now,you know, if we weren't here to
help, and when I say help, Imean help with that shift to the
fifth dimension.
That is that is happening, youknow, and the third dimension
has become so heavy and sodifficult.
I can feel people's energy andthere's so many people talking
about all of these things.
You know, trump this and ElonMusk that and World War III.
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It's like, why are we puttingenergy towards any of this?
You know, that's a very thirddimensional way and they want it
like that, you know, in thethird dimension, they want us
externalizing, they want usdistracted, they don't want us
to have experiences like I justshared with you two gorgeous
souls where we understand howpowerful we are as spiritual
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beings, having a humanexperience.
They don't want that.
Speaker 2 (43:44):
Because then you wouldn't be a good little
consumer, cog.
Speaker 3 (43:47):
Exactly A diligent soldier for the third dimension
of.
I'll do whatever you want me todo, you know.
No, it doesn't matter.
If I'm not happy, if I'm notfeeling fulfilled in my life, if
I'm feeling caged and stressedand overwhelmed and sad all the
time, that's okay.
I'll keep doing that, it'snormal, as long as I'm doing a
good job for you and makingmoney for the 3% of people.
(44:08):
And I think what's happening isright now.
We're like this, like this isthe third dimensional earth and
this is the fifth dimensionalearth, and we're like this right
now.
And it is going to separate.
There will be two earths.
There's a new earth that isbeing created, and Dolores
Cannon is someone who has talkeda lot about this and she's so.
(44:29):
She recently passed, but she'sso beautiful in the way she
explains it, and that's thething the new earth is going to
be.
You know all about connection toself, connection to others,
connection to this earth.
Everyone in the fifthdimensional space is living in
alignment with who they are andtheir life purpose, because we
all have our own life purposethat, when it's shared, it makes
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other human life better.
And I mean that's the thingabout the third right.
We have corporate America thatis caging so many people.
And then the whole money thing.
You know, in the thirddimensional it's a mindset of
scarcity.
You know fear around money.
It's like it's so tight there'snever enough.
Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah,blah.
And the fifth dimension, it'slike money is energy.
We are born abundant.
(45:13):
You know abundance is ourbirthright and so it's just
flows.
You know there's this massiveshift going on right now and
everyone can feel it, and so myguides are telling me stop
externalizing and shift it toself.
Anything in your life thatyou're not feeling happy with.
If it's a partner who'striggering you, if it's a friend
(45:36):
who's triggering you, if it'swhere you live, the job you have
, whatever it is, money issues,how much is in your bank account
, whatever it might be shift itinwards and start looking at it
from a space of.
This is a reflection to me, youknow, recognizing that we are
the creators of our reality.
We create our reality.
Everything in our life is just,is a reflection to us, to show
(45:58):
us what our beliefs are, what webelieve we're worthy of.
You know, with partnership,that's what I you know my
wheelhouse with divorce, I'mcoaching my clients to guide
them that your spouse that istriggering you.
You know the contract ofmarriage.
When you first are inrelationship with someone, the
mirror, the reflection is alllight, a lot of light.
You know.
That's why people are like, ohmy gosh, of course I want to
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marry you.
This feels amazing, I'mextraordinary, I'm so beautiful,
I'm so smart, like, yes, let'sdo this.
And then you know, thingshappen and the vibration changes
.
And when divorce comes, oranyone out there, you know
that's in a relationship thatisn't feeling great.
It's beautiful because thatperson is the only person who's
reflecting to you your shadowsas within.
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So, without Meaning the way youare, your energetic vibration,
your beliefs, your thoughtscreate your outer world.
And so stop externalizing andstart internalizing.
And you can do this by going innature.
You know, as I mentioned, myfriend Jacques Jacques Theron.
(47:02):
He has a YouTube channel, hehas a website, jacquestheroncom.
He has a ton of breathworkexercises that he can guide you
through and you can really getto the core of okay, what are my
beliefs?
And there are things fromchildhood, from the ages of
birth until 10, we are in thetheta brainwave state, which
means that's the state ofcreation.
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We are master creators of ourlife.
We're creating magic everywhere, but we're also absorbing.
So whatever your parents saidor whatever you saw, that became
your belief of what love is, ofwhat money is, of how much
money I'm capable of making.
The outer world is a reflection.
And to get to the fifthdimension, I have been told, we
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have to release the attachmentsto the third.
And those attachments to thethird they're like hooks.
Those are from our childhood.
The majority are from ourchildhood, where we're attaching
to a certain way of being orbelieving in a system.
You know, I mean, I thinkcorporate America is a really
great example.
Speaker 2 (48:03):
When you say that the third dimension and the fifth
dimension are going to split, doyou mean physically?
Do you mean we're going tofollow different bifurcations of
reality into multiple universesparallel to each other?
What are we talking aboutsplitting?
Speaker 3 (48:17):
What I've been told is it's like this and it's going
to be a whole new earth.
Speaker 2 (48:22):
So it's completely physically interlinked right now
, but the physical part willseparate out.
Speaker 3 (48:28):
Yes, what I've been shown is it's like this, like
the fifth is here higher and thethird is here and the third is
going to most likely destroyitself because it's just getting
out of control.
Speaker 2 (48:40):
It's getting out of control.
Speaker 3 (48:41):
Yes, yeah, but that's the good news, that's the good
news for everybody is that youcan shift into a higher
dimensional space, and it's notlike this woo, woo, oh, this is
crazy.
It's like no, this is actuallyquantum physics, this is
actually energy, it's vibrationsof energy and I think what's
happened is, you know, in the60s, when there was that free
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love, you know that was veryaligned with the fifth dimension
and the third kind of squashedit and said no, now it's going
to be a felony if you do thesethings and you can't.
You can't do this.
And I think what's happened nowis there's more, there's more
energy in the fifth dimension,there's more people that are in
that space and like, at leastfor myself, it's like well, I'm
not even interested in feelingthe third dimensional anymore,
(49:25):
I'm not, I'm not interested inhearing about it.
So I don't know, maybe, diana,maybe it's like I've been shown
a split, but maybe it's the same.
We're just a differentvibrations and we just don't see
it.
Speaker 2 (49:36):
We can't see it or access it.
They can't access us, andthat's fine, exactly, unless
they choose to.
Speaker 3 (49:43):
And they have to be.
You know, you have to be abeing of light to do that.
Speaker 2 (49:54):
Like you can't have darkness.
You said you published a bookrecently.
I did Tell everybody what yourbook is called and where they
can find it, and then where yourpractice is and what kind of
clients you take, because yousaid you weren't exactly
practicing law the way you usedto.
So tell us a little bit aboutyour business and what you do as
a capitalist so that we can oh,I love you, thank you.
Speaker 3 (50:08):
What do I do in the third dimension?
Do as a capitalist so that wecan?
Oh, I love you, thank you.
What do I do in the thirddimension?
Yeah, oh, I appreciate that.
So, yeah, so I still I practicelaw sort of.
I mean, I work as a mediator now, and so for the last 10 years I
work as a mediator, so I guidecouples through the divorce
journey in a very mindful andintentional manner, filled with
love, and the heart of thepractice is children.
(50:30):
The foundation is self-care andself-love.
The soul is authenticity,speaking your truth, and the
root is we're healing.
That's what we're doing andwe're shifting to another space.
I help all couples, you know,anywhere in the United States
going through a divorce, I canguide through the divorce
journey, and I just released abook that's called Shine, soul
(50:50):
Shine, and it's 30 days of selfdiscovery and healing through
divorce, and so it's writtenfrom what we talked about
earlier, that divine goddessenergy, and it's for anyone
going through divorce.
It helps them, you know, emergefrom that darkness and get back
into the light, and it's reallyeasy.
It's just 30 days so they canflip and pick whatever they want
(51:12):
and then focus energies on thatyou know whatever they're being
guided towards in that day.
So I'm really excited about it.
And then I have a masterclass,a Divorce With Love masterclass
that helps people with all theemotional stuff and the legal
stuff.
The book is the emotional, butthe masterclass talks about the
legal process and a lot ofpeople are scared about that.
And all of this can be found onyour website.
(51:32):
Yes, and that's salisdivorcecom.
Speaker 1 (51:36):
And we'll have links to that in our show notes and in
the description of this episodebelow.
Jen, this has been a joy totalk to you this has been so fun
.
You're so full of light.
I love your stories.
This has been veryinspirational.
Speaker 3 (51:49):
Both of you are just amazing.
You're just so gorgeous andyour energy is so high.
Vibe, I'm excited.
Speaker 2 (52:03):
Thank you, jen.
We appreciate you taking us onthis journey from the third
dimension into the fifth, andthen we can choose to stay there
if we dare.
Yes, painted Loves.
What do you think?
Would you choose to move into acompletely new dimension if you
could and you can?
That's definitely not going toend up in a spooky day.
Speaker 1 (52:16):
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Diana Doty and produced byHomespun Haints Media LLC.
Editing and music by BeckyKielimnik.
Show notes by Diana Doty.
If you have a ghost story andyou'd like to be considered as a
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Slash submit.
Go to a good school, get a profitable degree, get
that coveted job, join the ratrace.
We all learn from a young agethat this is the sequence we are
supposed to follow, that if wedeviate from this path we're
somehow doing it wrong.
But as long as you bring homethe paycheck and you get a pat
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on the back from the boss,you've lived your life correctly
.
Sometimes it takes divineintervention to break free from
this system, and perhaps that'sexactly what happened to our
guest when she fell on thatfateful day several years ago.
Her whole worldview changed,and so did her life, and so did
the lives of those she helps,and you're going to hear all
(00:46):
about it today on HomespunHaints.
Hello, hainted Loves, welcometo Homespun Haints.
I'm Becky.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
Hey, I'm Diana.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
Today on the show, we are bringing on a really,
really exciting guest for youall.
I don't think we've everinterviewed anybody quite like
her.
She has a really unusual career.
She is a family law attorney,but she helps people who are
going through divorce on theirspiritual journey through
(01:19):
divorce.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
Which is awesome, because when people are getting
divorced, it's so tempting tojust be like, oh I'm sorry, but
most of the time it's likefinally.
Because when people are gettingdivorced, it's so tempting to
just be like, oh, I'm sorry, butmost of the time it's like
finally.
Because when you get to thatpoint, you're at the end of your
rope, but she does it in a waythat actually, like, creates
harmony around the entireprocess, which really intrigued
me.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
Yes, yes.
So we're talking about JenMitchell Love, who is our guest
today, and she's going to talkabout how she got here, with her
career and all of the messagesthat she received from outside
sources, which we mean outsideof your consciousness.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
Outside of our normal sphere of reality.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
Yes, yes, and how she got there.
This is truly going to beunusual, so I think you're
really going to enjoy this.
I found it very inspiring.
I think like in anotherlifetime.
Diana and I just have a podcastwhere we interview people with
strange woo careers.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
That's this podcast, Becky.
That's this life.
That's true.
That's true.
You jumped the timeline andyou're in it.
Here it is.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Yeah, we started out with ghost stories and we have
all this career inspirationmixed in.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
It's amazing how many woo people like have a ghost
story.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
So you are asking about my necklace here, Diana?
Speaker 2 (02:35):
I was.
I guessed that it was some kindof a nasal plate, crib reform
plate.
That's what I thought too.
Maybe it's a cuttlefish bone,maybe it's the inside of a
turtle's scale.
I don't know.
Do turtles have scales?
Speaker 1 (02:51):
I don't know.
I'm not a turtle expert.
However, this is reptilian,it's reptilian.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
Can you give me a hint?
Florida, is it iguanian?
Speaker 1 (03:02):
No.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
Is it crocodilian?
Yeah.
Is it iguanian?
No, is it crocodilian?
Yeah.
Is it an alligator bone?
Speaker 1 (03:10):
It's an alligator vertebrae yeah.
Oh it's a vertebrae, Cool.
I was at a gym show because Iwas going to go hunting for my
crystals and I saw this and itcame on the tail of me being
with my acupuncturist, who toldme she was getting a vision of a
spirit animal for me in theform of an alligator.
I was like what the hell she'slike?
(03:31):
She had to look it up.
She's like I've never heard ofthis before, but I was getting
this weird vision, thisvertebrate.
The person who made it like,who actually wrapped it, was
there selling it and she's like,yeah, I was just at like an
odds and ends oddity, fair and Isaw this bone and I thought I
(03:53):
could make it into a necklace.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
And my mother was like you have to have that,
becky, it's so you.
So my mother bought it for me.
Your animal guide, that's, Iguess.
So do you feel a kinship foralligators, now that you didn't
necessarily notice before I?
Speaker 1 (04:02):
don't know, but they keep popping up.
Like also, a few days afterthat, my husband got a 3D
printer and he just randomlyprinted me an alligator, like he
printed the kids dragons.
And they printed me analligator and he's like do you
want the alligator?
I was like, yeah, that's weird.
Okay, why?
Like I don't even live inFlorida, I have a healthy
respect for alligators.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
I've seen plenty of alligators, I think this is
turning out like my, my braceletstory.
The one that I found in thestore that spoke to me the
loudest was the ugliest one,with all of my least favorite
colors.
I was like, well, I guess I'mgoing to be wearing this color
for a while and it really, youknow, it really did seem to
psychologically do some, somevibrations for me, so I was
(04:43):
happy.
So maybe the alligator, thoughugly and originally not your
favorite animal, wouldeventually become I don't think
they're ugly.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
They're not ugly, no, they're amazing, beautiful,
graceful creatures.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
I thought they were amazing graceful ugly creatures.
I mean it looks like a turd ora log floating in the water.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
You cannot tell it's.
Don't say that about my gatorsyou can't tell it's an animal.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
I've always had a healthy respect for alligators.
I've always had a healthyrespect for semi-trucks, but
that doesn't mean they'rebeautiful.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
Actually, what I wanted to talk about today has
absolutely nothing to do withalligators.
It's more in the realm of thecrocodile, and that is Egyptian
mummies.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
I get it Okay, okay, yes, I will talk about mummies
with you all day, even though Ido find them slightly
intimidating.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
I love mummies.
You know, when I was a kid andI would get scared at night
thinking there were ghosts in myroom, because they probably
were I would just imagine thatmy room was filled with mummies
and it would make me feel better.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
Oh, that wouldn't have made me feel better.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
Oh look, it's Imhotep getting out of his sarcophagus
and walking around Tromp, tromp,tromp, and I'd be like, okay,
that's not your average 19thcentury Appalachian ghost,
that's an ancient Egyptian mummythat I hear and that would make
me feel better.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
That's bizarre, is it ?
That would not have made mefeel better.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
Anyway, I love mummies.
Everywhere I go, I seek out themummies.
I was recently in Italy.
I can't even tell you how manymummies I saw there, because
there were so many mummies.
I love mummies, but I justlearned of this new project
that's going on at the CairoMuseum about mummies, and they
(06:30):
are putting a lot of time andenergy and resources and
manpower behind investigatinghow Egyptian mummies smell,
smell, smell.
Yeah, why?
They're like putting thesetubes into the slits in the
(06:53):
sarcophagus and like expellingair out into these like bags, or
taking like tiny littlescrapings and putting them in
this machine.
And then there's like this tubethat goes over your nose and
they're like.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
So the kids are huffing mummies nowadays.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
Okay, let me, let me get to that.
Yeah, so the, the, the.
What they're doing with thekids they're bringing in, like
professional perfumers andthings.
You know people who sniffthings for a living to identify
what like a sommelier formummies, but they don't taste
the mummies yet.
Thank you, that might be thenext step.
Oh, please, don't taste themummies.
Oh, no, they're sniffing them.
(07:30):
They've got like this littletube or or like the mask that
you have when you're airlinepilot or you're doing one of
those breathing tests on atreadmill so that every puff is
exclusively mummy scent.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
No outside information coming in.
Guess what mummies smell like?
I'm gonna guess beef jerky.
No, no Oysters.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
Well, that might be a reason to taste them.
If that's your kink, get somechocolate, dipped strawberries
and some champagne while you'reat it Less than you need tonight
, baby.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
Mummy, mummy, mummy smell, what about like vellum.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
They do have like a little bit of a rotting wood
smell, but like rotting wood isvery fragrant.
I remember when I was a kid wehad a chunk of cedar.
I don't know why.
We had this chunk of randomcedar just sitting on the side
of the house and my father leftit there so it could decompose.
And then after a few years hewould pick it up and be like
take a sniff.
Oh my God.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
Kids gather around and sniff the log again.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
It's that time of year.
Have I mentioned that my dad isa chemist?
He had a very weird upbringing.
It was either sniff this orlook at this glow.
Yeah, this was my childhood.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
What kid doesn't like ?
Watch me set this on fire.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
There was a lot of that too, anyway.
So yeah, we would sniff thecedar, and the cedar smells so
good, right, it's like this likewhen wood rots, it actually
puts out this really fragrant,beautiful smell.
It's completely different fromwhen a squirrel rots.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
Also fragrant, not so beautiful.
Yeah, I have a cousin who'scurrently finishing an art
installation that has the odorof rotting squirrel in it
specifically.
Wow For a multi-sensoryexperience.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
Okay, well, I'm going to include a link of a video
that Reuters put out about thisexperiment that's going on in
Cairo, and your cousin can watchthat and feel validated about
there, wait are you saying thatmummies smell like roadkill
Mm-mm.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
Oh good.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
I'm just saying that smell can be an important part
of any sort of installation,because this is going to be the
case, so let me continue, allright.
So anyway, we've got the woodsmell, you're right on that.
And then think about theembalming oils that would be
used.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
Think old, old.
I don't know the specifics, doyou yeah?
Speaker 1 (09:46):
Archaeologist tell me Duh.
Well, I mean, they're stilllearning about the oils that
would be used too through thesniff test.
But, as you can probably thoseof you listening right now
you're probably already thinkingthings like frankincense, myrrh
, cinnamon.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
Okay, okay, that sounds delicious.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
It is.
It is I mean, we're talkinglike three, four, 5,000 years
here.
Right, that this thing has beensitting.
So they're trying to do withthe sniff test is to learn more
about what essential oils wereused in the mummification
process.
Also, they'll be able tomonitor if the mummy is decaying
(10:30):
or not by constantly sniffingJust doing a sniff test, I guess
every month, like, oh, that'sstarting to smell a little
seedier than before.
It was starting to smell morelike the dead rodent thing.
So then they can kind of keepan eye on it.
I mean, they do have spectacularpreservation techniques now,
but they didn't when they firststarted, like pulling these
(10:52):
things out of tombs and thingsover 100 years ago.
And I mean, I mean there's somany mummies, they used to use
them as fuel in trains, likethey used to just like throw a
whole mummy down the chute andburn it up.
We have a lot more respect forthem now.
Yes, the cool thing though Ithink that is most fascinating
about what they're doing withthese smells is, now that
(11:14):
they're identifying them, theyplan to replicate them and then
emit them in the rooms where themuseum goers go, so the museum
goers can then.
This is exactly what they weresaying.
The museum goers can smell thesmell of the mummies themselves
as they walk around it andcreate an emotional attachment
(11:38):
in their minds to connect tothat smell Because, as you know,
olfactory memories are some ofthe strongest.
They're also some of thestrongest hauntings.
It's like a way to connectpeople you know, especially in
Egypt, to their heritage, tocreate an emotional connection
to being and also just to like,help enhance the experience,
like, oh, I'm really smellingwhat it would have been like.
(11:59):
I love this idea.
I love how these, you know,exhibits are starting to really
take into mind that it's notjust about the sights, it's also
about the sounds, the feels,the smells.
I don't know how they're goingto incorporate taste yet, but I
bet those mummy scientists aregoing to figure something out.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
Cinnamon has a lot of culinary uses.
I'm sure they'll figure it out.
Cinnamon and slightly rottingwood.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
So maybe you could come out afterward and they can
give you like cinnamon bark.
Call it mummy fingers.
Oh cute, before we bring on Jen, we have a patron to give a
shout out to new patron.
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If you are a member of ourPatreon, just come check out our
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You don't even have to read thebook, you can just come hang
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Speaker 2 (13:01):
It's fine and you don't even have to pay for our
Patreon membership, because youcan join at the free level and
still join book club.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
You can, yeah.
And our current book actuallyhas um a mummy unwrapping story
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Love, a former divorce attorney.
I believe Correct, jen.
I'm still licensed, but I don'tparticipate in that broken
system.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
What a statement.
That's awesome.
Jen has had so many amazingexperiences and one in
particular that she's going toshare with us today that have
opened up her mind, enlightenedher and now, as she says, she
exists in the fifth dimensionand she is here to share her
(15:17):
knowledge and her experienceswith us so that we may also
learn from her and learn thateverything that she has done.
I think this is going to be avery, very inspirational
conversation.
Jen, thank you so much forbeing here with us today.
Speaker 3 (15:31):
Thank you for having me.
You're both so gorgeous.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
You shine so bright.
Speaker 3 (15:35):
This is going to be so fun.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
So, jen, tell us, where are you located.
Speaker 3 (15:39):
I am in Boulder, Colorado, oh of course you are I
know it's so beautiful here.
I'm from Chicago, I'm licensedas an attorney in Chicago and
I've been an attorney for 19years.
I was litigating for the firstnine years and then, 10 years
ago, I had three kids in 39months and my kids helped me to
(16:00):
realize, I know, and we didn'thave a daycare, babysitter,
nanny, it was me with my ownlegal practice.
But they came in and theyshowed me that the work I was
doing in the family law courtsystem was destroying children
and people and families and myimpact in that space.
I didn't like the energy and Ididn't want my kids to grow up
(16:20):
seeing me doing that.
So the last decade, I have beenfocused on a new way to get a
divorce, which is through love,empowerment and growth, and the
story that I want to share withyou was a big turning point for
me.
It happened July 22nd 2023.
So it's wild to think that it'salmost two years ago that this
(16:42):
happened and I started myspiritual journey in June of
2014.
So that's when my third wasborn of 2014.
So that's when my third wasborn.
So this had been, you know, 10years in this really intense
space of self-exploration, goingto different conferences,
reading different books.
And then I started my plantmedicine journey in September
(17:05):
2021.
And that was my first ayahuascaceremony and that opened just
so much space for me as aspiritual being, having a human
experience and really embracingthat and sitting in that.
And all of this has been sharedwith my clients, all of the
learnings that I've receivedfrom these experiences.
(17:26):
And now solace my legalpractice is solace divorce
mediation.
And now I'm talking about soulcontracts with my clients.
You know the soul contract ofmarriage and how they're the
only two people that can mirrorand reflect to one another.
You know what their soul camehere to learn and I see my work
now even though I still amlicensed as an attorney and I
(17:48):
still practice family law and Ihelp them through the legal
process but I see my work now ashelping them to recognize the
reflections you know.
And now we're talking about theway it makes you feel and did
you feel that way as a child,and so it's really looking at
generational lineage, ways ofbeing and trauma and beliefs
(18:08):
that have been passed down thatpeople navigate their whole life
with you know over and over andover again have been passed
down that people navigate theirwhole life with you know, over
and over and over again, theykeep getting the same pattern,
and so the divorce journey isnow turning into a soul journey
where I'm helping people releasethe attachments to that space
of marriage and shift intoanother space.
And when children are involved,it's like, well, this is
amazing.
You know you're still a family.
(18:29):
Your children chose you.
They knew that this was goingto happen.
It doesn't have to bedestructive.
It can be really loving andempowering and it's beautiful to
shift into a new space thatfeels good and then open your
heart chakra again and attractnew love.
Now your family is bigger.
It's like this whole amazingthing.
So, but this story was a reallybig shifting point for me.
(18:52):
Okay, why don't we jump rightinto it?
Okay, so it was July 22nd 2023.
I'm part of a breathworktraining course thing and my
really dear friend is abreathwork and shamanic
practitioner and so he wouldhost these and he's still doing
it.
His name is Jacques Theron andhe's amazing, and it was
(19:16):
Saturday morning.
His breathwork was from 10 AMuntil 1 PM, so it's a three hour
, three hour span.
Every weekend I go to the gym.
I mean, I go to the gym mostdays, but, but the days that I'd
have this breathwork course.
I go to East Boulder Rec thathas a steam room and I'm a
swimmer, so I go there and Iswim and I steam and I hot tub.
(19:38):
So this morning I go to the, Igo to the gym, I go in the steam
room and I always do breathworkin the steam room.
So breathwork is so the one thatI do in the steam room is
called 44 breaths, and so youbreathe in, you know seven deep
breaths, so it's like, and youdo seven of those, and then you
(19:59):
do 14 medium breaths, so that'slike, and then you do three sets
of seven, so 21 shallow breaths.
So it's like, and when you'redoing these three different
breaths, you're activatingdifferent parts of your brain.
And and most people when I,when I have shared this story,
(20:19):
they're like why are you doingbreath work in a steam room?
Like you shouldn't be doingbreath work in a steam room.
And my response is always thesame.
It's like well, I like to do itin the steam room and sauna
because when I do it in there Iget to the ether faster because
it's so hot.
You know what I mean.
So I get to that space of theether really, really quickly and
it's just like the space of thesubconscious connection to the
(20:42):
divine and the conscious mindisn't thinking anymore.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
And when you're in a really, really hot environment
like that too, sometimes itfeels like your body doesn't
have a boundary right, Becauseyour skin temperature has no
difference from the roomtemperature, and so you're like
where am I?
Speaker 3 (21:01):
Where am I not?
That's how I feel.
Yes, diana, that's exactly it.
So you got to add breath workto it.
It just makes it even moreintense.
So I do one round, and Iusually do three rounds of this.
44 breaths, right.
So I do one round and then I goswim.
I go swim a mile, went in thehot tub and then I went back
into the steam room and I havetwo more rounds to do.
So I do one round again.
Now, after you do the shallowthe 21 shallow you breathe in,
(21:24):
you breathe out and then youbreathe all the way in.
And when I'm in the steam roomI'm like like this, like I'm
sitting up, like this like myhands and I'm just like getting
all of the energy from the ether.
So you breathe all the way in,and then you breathe all the way
out, and then you breathe inagain and then you breathe all
the way out and that last breathis called the breath of death.
(21:47):
And so when you're breathing,when you breathe everything out
right, the breath of death I amintentionally thinking.
I'm like I just breathe in allthis prana, all this good divine
energy that is going into everycell of my body, and then I'm
going to breathe out the breathof death and I'm breathing all
of the old ways of thinking youknow that I talked about earlier
(22:08):
with the soul contracts and thechildhood beliefs like I'm
breathing out all those old waysthat do not serve me anymore.
So the second after the firstround, I had a little hesitancy
doing the third round and it wasweird because I usually never
have hesitancy, but it was alittle hesitancy.
But I'm a very intense person,I'm a Virgo.
I'm like I'm going to do it,you know.
(22:29):
So I do the third and I do thebreath of death and I'm like
this in the steam room, okay,and I'm holding, holding my
breath.
And the next thing I know Ihear this really loud noise that
I couldn't put into words butlater in the story I can.
So I hear this loud noise and Iwake up and I'm on the floor of
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the steam room.
And I wake up and I'm on thefloor of the steam room and I
think other people are there.
Now I was on the second seat,so that's about like between
three to three and a half feetoff the ground, and now I'm on
the tile, cement floor and Ithink other people are in there
and I don't know what I'm doingthere.
So I'm a little embarrassed, soI'm like, oh my God, and I'm
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thinking like, like, oh my God,like.
And I'm thinking like, oh myGod, and I said it again, I'm
like, oh my God.
And then I looked down andthere's blood all over the floor
.
So the third, the third oh myGod.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
I was like oh my God, I passed out.
Speaker 3 (23:22):
Like I fucking passed out, like I really I passed out
doing breath work and it hadalmost happened before and it
almost happened before, like I'dbeen a little woozy before but
I never passed out.
And then I was like, oh my gosh, and I'm like I passed out from
this from three feet up.
I face planted onto the tilecement floor of the steam room.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
So it's not even like you slid down, like you went
forward.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
No, I went forward and, face planted onto the tile,
cement floor, like I shared I'man attorney.
The first day of law school Istill remember 2003, my civil
procedure professor saying youare all here because you don't
like medical stuff, you don'tlike the sight of blood, and
that is true.
Like I go from zero to ahundred in a moment with
anything medical, like I justfreak out all the time.
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So when I realized this, Istart to freak out and all of a
sudden I hear a voice and it's areally, and no one is in the
steam room with me, it's just me.
I hear a voice and the voice,really low, says to me breathe.
So I'm like okay.
So I start breathing the waythat I was breathing breath work
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and I'm being trained at this.
Now I'm trained, now I'm afacilitator, but I'm being
trained.
So I start breathing and at thispoint I can feel both of my
grandmothers, and they were likethis.
They were like above me, likethis, and they were giving me
all of this maternal lovingenergy.
And one of my grandmother'sdied in 1994, the other died in
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2005.
So I could feel them both verystrongly above me in the steam
room, giving me so much love.
And then the voice says to meit's still in the very low voice
.
You have come here to do bigthings and you need to do them.
So I'm like, ok, so I'mbreathing, and breathing, and
breathing, and I grab my cap andgoggles, I grab my water bottle
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, like I was calm from breathing.
No one is in, no one is in thesteam room.
And then I go in in the lockerroom and I and, like I said, I'm
a swimmer, so I swim like sixdays a week and I was a
competitive swimmer, so this isvery comfortable and I know this
space.
So I go right into the lockerroom and I go right to this
shower Because I'm like I'm notgoing to look at my face yet,
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because I don't know if I haveteeth anymore, I don't know if I
like broke my nose I have noidea where the blood.
I intuitively went like this,but I didn't know what it was.
So I'm in the cold shower andit's the amazing part of this
too is, in Boulder, colorado,people are like very into
fitness and stuff and this is aSaturday morning at like.
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Probably at this point it'slike 9, 930.
No one was in the steam roomwith me and no one was in the
locker room which is amazing.
Because if anyone would havebeen in either of those
locations, they would havesnapped me out of this space
that I was super zen ofbreathing.
So I kept breathing.
So I'm in the shower.
I have, you know, water goingon my face and there's blood.
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I'm kicking the blood in thedrain because there's so much
blood.
So, finally, I'm like, ok, I'mgoing to look to see what I did.
I'm going to see what I did.
So I go in the mirror, I lookin the mirror.
There's nothing on my face.
I lift, I look up and there's ahole in the bottom of my chin,
but that's it.
Like I didn't like nothing wasmy head wasn't hurting, it was
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wild.
The lifeguard comes in because Ihear someone say there's blood
in the steam room.
The lifeguard comes in.
This 18 year old she does thereport.
I'm still breathing, I'mgetting dressed with one hand.
I even put my bra on with onehand, which I still.
I mean that's amazing, right.
And I put lotion on my face.
I brushed my hair.
Then I sent a text to myex-husband and we lived in
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Chicago In 2022, we relocated toBoulder with our three kids and
our two cats and we moved intogether again.
So we're living together, notromantically, but I text him and
he knows me, of course, verywell and I'm like I just passed
out doing breath work in thesteam room and I face planted on
the tile, cement floor, and Ithink I need stitches.
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So I come home.
I get home at 9.57 am, so Ihave my phone, I hand it to my
eldest son, harvey, and I'm likehere, harv find the Zoom link
for the breath work that I'mdoing at 10.
And so he finds it.
I get my earbuds and mydaughter, who who's 12, and my
ex-husband are both looking atme like what is wrong with her?
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Like what is she talking about?
She's going to do breathwork.
Speaker 2 (27:54):
So I'm like okay what do you?
Speaker 3 (27:55):
guys.
I'm like I'm going to go, youknow I'm going to do breathwork,
but before I go, what do youthink Like?
Do you think I need stitches?
So I'm like this, they're cansee bone underneath, I know.
So they're both.
They both make that same face.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
It's like they're so grossed out, they're so grossed
out.
Speaker 3 (28:13):
They're like yes, you need stitches.
And I'm like, okay, I'm goingto go upstairs and I'm going to
do breath work for three hoursand I'm going to heal myself and
then I'm going to figure outwhat I'm going to do from there.
So they're like, okay, andagain my family knows me, so
this is not like totally foreignto them.
They're like, okay, mom's goingto do breath work.
So I go upstairs and I'mbreathing the whole time and I'm
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laying and I have my gauze andan ice pack like propped up.
Speaker 2 (28:38):
Holding the blood in your body Exactly While you're
working on healing.
Speaker 3 (28:44):
While I'm intentionally working on healing
, I text my friend who's in thegroup and I tell her what
happened.
She's like why are you on thiscall?
You need to go to urgent care.
I'm like I'm going to healfirst.
So during this whole time Iwasn't exploring like very much.
I wasn't.
I didn't want to know what Idid like I did as far as like
damage.
Because one thing about me is Ireally don't like Western
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medicine in the sense that it'sreally not my modality for
healing.
So like I don't have a doctor,you know I don't.
I don't even take Tylenol, Idon't take scripts, I don't do
any of that stuff Like I healfrom the earth, I heal from the
sun, I heal from meditating.
So for me it was like I didn'twant to know what I did.
So there's a little break beforelike the actual hour of breath
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work.
So there's like a five minutebreak and Jacques is like okay,
go get some water, you know, dowhatever you want.
So I come downstairs and Ithink I was getting coffee.
My daughter was sitting thereand again she's 12.
So she has like all this girldrama, you know, and she's
talking to me about her friendblah blah blah, reina did this,
yada yada yada and I realizedwhen she was talking I bit down
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and I was like, oh my gosh, I'mlike I can't.
I can't listen to your dramaright now, because I just
realized that my jaw is out ofalignment.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
So when I would bite?
Speaker 3 (30:01):
when I bite down, this side would touch, but this
side wasn't touching.
And so then I was like I'm likeI need to focus on this hour of
breath work.
I'm going to intentionally healmy jaw and put it back into
alignment because I cannot likeI could if I had to, but like
doing a surgery, going throughsurgery for me is just like, oh
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my God, I would die.
Yeah, I just would die.
So I told her I have to do this.
So then, at this point sheasked me a question and out of
all the questions she could haveasked me because I told her
what happened Out of all thequestions she asked me, she
chose to ask me this question.
She said, mom, when you woke up,you said you heard that sound.
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What did that sound like?
And I was like I couldn't putit into words.
And I was, but I could.
I was hearing it in my mind.
I just kept hearing the sound,but I couldn't put it into words
and it was kind of like PTSD,like it was.
Like I was kind of, it was likeI could hear it.
And she looks at me and she'slike like an egg cracking.
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That bitch heard mysubconscious.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
Cause kids are energetic, like that you know
what I mean.
Speaker 3 (31:12):
And I was like, oh my God, baby, I'm like, yes, like
a giant egg cracking.
That's what it sounded likewhen I woke up.
So I go upstairs, I do the hourof breath work, I realign my
jaw.
My jaw now is touching, becausethe whole time in breath work
I'm focusing energy is onhealing my jaw.
I send you know, jack, andeverybody love, I'm like giving
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him kisses.
I close the thing and I waslike, all right, let's go to
urgent care.
So we go to urgent care.
I had five stitches and five isthe number of change.
So I'm like this is amazing.
So I walk out of of the place.
So I come home, I go in mygarage, I'm sitting.
We live in a space of CourtBoulder.
There's like beautiful trees,the sun is out, and I'm just
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like trying to processeverything that happened.
And I'm just sitting and I hadpurchased Barbie tickets.
This is when Barbie, the movie,was big.
I had purchased Barbie ticketsfor like 6 o'clock PM that night
and so I'm like, okay, well, Ifeel okay, like I'm not
physically hurt, like I havethis.
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It wasn't even swollen, it was.
It was amazing.
So I tell everyone I'm like youknow what?
I'm just going to go upstairsin bed and just rest for a
little bit.
So now I go upstairs in bed andboth my grandmothers are there
again, but now they're different, I know, but now they're
different.
Now they're really excited andmy, my paternal, my dad's mother
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, she tells me, go get them.
That's what she tells me, goget them.
And then my other grandma tellsme the world is your oyster.
And so I'm like, okay, likethis is kind of interesting.
So while I'm resting, my guidestell me do not eat popcorn at
the movie theater.
And I'm like, okay, like still,I'm still in the space of like
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okay, like, how am I okay?
Like, how am I okay when I face, planted unconscious onto a
tile, cement floor from three tothree and a half feet up, like
145 pounds, like how is thateven possible?
I didn't chip anything, likeeverything was fine.
So we go to the movie that nightand I can't help myself because
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in Boulder their popcorn, theylike add lime to it or something
.
It's so good.
And I get a little side dishwith my diet coke and then I'll
put like popcorn and I put dietcoke on it, so it's like sweet
and savory, but it's like such atreat, you know.
And so I'm there with my familyand I'm just like you know what
I I went through a lot todaylike I'm just gonna have popcorn
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.
And so we go into the movietheater and you, they're doing
the previews and I start eatingthe popcorn.
And then, all of a sudden, I'mlike, oh my gosh, and I chipped
a tooth from a popcorn kernel.
I don't chip any of these teethfrom falling face planting on a
tile yes, on the tile on thefloor but I chip a little bit
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from and it's just in the back alittle one.
But I was like oh my gosh, likeokay, thank you, and I usually
am very diligent.
I always say like I'm a verydiligent human.
When my guides give me messages, I do them, I don't question
them.
So that one, you know, that'swhat happens.
So I go home, I go to bed.
The next morning, I wake up andI have symmetrical bruises on
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both of my palms.
Right here I have thissymmetrical.
Both shoulders.
I have symmetrical bruises onboth sides like ribs.
It's sore and equal andsymmetrical, but there's no
bruising.
And then above both kneecaps Ihave these, these bruises above
my kneecaps and it's like, oh mygosh.
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That means that when I fell, Ifell in perfect symmetry.
I mean this is not and that'sthe.
It's like what?
Like, how is that possible?
Like, how is that possible thatI fell in complete symmetry?
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And I go to the steam room allthe time and the distance
between you know, I was on thesecond seat, so the distance
between the back and the bottomseat my legs go over that.
So if I put my feet here, myknee is here and the bruises
were on top of my knees, so it'slike how did that happen?
Speaker 2 (35:31):
How did that happen?
I don't know.
Did they fold underneath you orsomething?
Speaker 3 (35:35):
Or I fell all the way and they hit on the top of the
bench, the first level.
Speaker 2 (35:42):
Oh yeah, but it was amazing.
Speaker 3 (35:43):
I mean, I was just like, oh my gosh, thank you,
thank you, guides, for like,carrying me through this and
falling in perfect symmetry.
So that was day one, day twothere's five days.
So day two, my daughter had herfriend that she was talking
about the drama with.
They were, they were trying towatch something on TV and, again
, I still hadn't, like, exploreda lot of of what had happened.
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I was just like, oh, I'm allgood, everything's amazing,
thank you, thank you for puttingthis soft pillow for my landing
.
Everything is great.
And so they were arguing aboutsome whatever they were going to
watch, and I'm like you knowwhat?
I'm right back, I'm going to goto the bathroom, I'm going to
come back.
So I go to the bathroom and allof a sudden I notice I'm like,
oh my gosh, like my tongue isfitting in my mouth, which, when
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I say that to you too, youmight be like what is she
talking about?
Of course, your tongue fits inyour mouth, but I have these
like uh-huh, okay, uh-huh,they're like these bones, can
you see them?
Speaker 2 (36:40):
Yeah, yeah, okay, uh-huh, uh-huh so they're.
Speaker 3 (36:41):
They're called something Uh-huh.
So they're called somethingTorrens or something.
And so at this point I'm 46years old.
They always had been to a pointwhere my tongue, when it was
flat, it wasn't underneath myteeth, it was like a little
above it, which never didanything, it wasn't like
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anything.
But I noticed I'm like, oh mygosh, my tongue is fitting in my
mouth.
And then I realized that is theshattering, that was the egg
cracking.
Yes, they move those down andback, yes.
And then one of my good friendsin Boulder works at like a
fancy dentist, like cosmeticdentistry.
She's like girl, that's like a$6,000 surgery.
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I was like oh my gosh, like howamazing that that is what
happened.
You know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (37:28):
Like that's extraordinary, and it could only
have happened in perfectsymmetry, exactly Otherwise it
would have made everything muchworse.
Speaker 3 (37:37):
That's exactly, and look at the scar.
It's right in the middle.
I mean it's like it's amazing,it's amazing.
So that was day two.
So then day three I'm sittingin the garage again because I'm
spending a lot of time outside.
All of a sudden I'm looking inthe sky and I see a glitch in
the sky and I'm like a glitch,yes, and I'm like what is that?
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Like what was that?
And then I look again and I seeit again and it's like a glitch
.
It looked like.
It looked like a glitch Like it, like it was like, like it was
like like a program, that waslike something I don't know.
I was like what is that, youknow?
Okay?
So then day four, day four, andthis whole time I haven't been
freaking out, I've been reallyjust like very calm and just
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very grateful to be alive andand thanking the guides,
everything.
So day four comes and ourneighbor sends us a text message
and he's like there are fourbuck in your front yard.
So me and the kids and Aaron allgo to the front of the house
and there are these huge deer,like huge four masculine deer,
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in our front yard and it wassomething about seeing it.
It really kind of rattled me,like it was really, it was.
It felt like very magical.
I'm like oh my gosh, like itwas amazing.
I was like oh my gosh.
And then all of a sudden Istarted feeling a little anxious
.
I just said to everyone Ididn't want to tell him I was
freaking out or I was feelingweird.
So I'm like you know what?
I'm just going to go upstairsand take a shower before dinner.
I'll be, I'll be back, you know, in a little bit.
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So I go upstairs, I turn theshower on and I sit down.
You know, the toilet lid isdown.
I sit down on the toilet lidand I'm breathing.
I'm feeling really anxious.
I'm like what is going on?
So I start breathing and then Ilike put my hands out like this
you know when I'm when I'msitting and my bruises are gone,
and this is only day four.
So I then really start freakingout and I'm like, oh my gosh, I
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died, like I died in the steamroom, I died, and and this is
what it is Like they simulateyour life after you die.
Speaker 2 (39:43):
So you don't know.
Speaker 3 (39:45):
And then it's like they're going to, they're going
to gradually tell you and that'swhy bruises, after four days
only, are completely gone.
And I was like, and that iswhat that glitch in the sky was
is that I am really dead?
You know what I mean?
So now I'm now I start cryingand I'm freaking out and my
guides tell me go to your altar.
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And I'm like, and my guidestell me, go to your altar.
And I'm like, okay.
So like six months before, I wasgiven the message that I should
create an altar for myspiritual practice.
Then they told me that I shouldgo to this amazing garage sale
in Boulder, which is amazing.
This ties into everything.
So this is like six monthsbefore.
So we go to the amazing garagesale and, like I said, like
anytime I get messages, I'm adiligent human, I'm going to do
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it.
So I go there, I'm looking and Ican't, I can't find any altar.
I'm like this is weird, like Iwonder what it is.
And then there's a wall of art.
And I look at the wall of artand all of a sudden I am like,
just so transfixed on thismosaic Jesus.
And I am not like.
I grew up Catholic but we neverwent to church.
I was just like staring at thismosaic Jesus.
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So I bought it Right and I Ihad it in various places and
then I put it in the middle ofmy altar and it's like a cool.
He's like hippie Jesus.
He's cool Like he knew how towalk on water because the dude
figured out the energy of theuniverse and he turned water
into wine because he's fun.
He wants to have fun with people.
Speaker 1 (41:08):
You know what I mean, and he loved everybody.
Speaker 3 (41:09):
He didn't judge anyone.
His best friend was aprostitute.
He didn't care, because whocares what people want to do
with their life, right?
So he was in the middle of myaltar.
So my guides tell me when Istart freaking out you know
sitting in my bathroom that,thinking that I died they're
like go to your altar.
So I go to my altar and I'mstaring again at this Jesus
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mosaic and then all of a suddenI start laughing and I'm like,
oh my gosh, okay.
I'm like, okay, if you can doit, then I can do it too, like
if you lived in this world ofmagic where you could do all of
these things and you wereteaching love to everybody and
compassion and like makingeverything high, vibrational and
fun.
Then I can do that too.
So then everything kind ofcalmed.
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And then the fifth day, and thefifth day that was my day of
full integration, where I waslike, okay, five stitches, day
five of processing, everythinghas come together.
And yeah, since then I mean Icame out of that and then I
created my Dwarfs with Lovemasterclass, like two months
later, and I've written a bookand now everything is different,
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where it's like that message ofyou have come here to do big
things and you need to do themis not lost on me, obedient,
human.
Yes, I am, I am diligent.
It's like you tell me something, I will do it.
What do you want me to do?
I'm going to help shift theworld.
I am, I am diligent.
It's like you tell me something, I will do it.
What do you want me to do?
I'm going to help shift theworld.
I was supposed to share thisstory on a podcast like a month
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after it happened, and then itdidn't.
It didn't happen, and so I'veshared this with friends, but
it's so fun to share it in thisspace and really, hopefully,
inspire people, you know, tolive their path, because we're
always guided by our angels,masters, guides and ancestors.
You know we're always protectedand we are all here to do
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something.
We wouldn't be alive right now,you know, if we weren't here to
help, and when I say help, Imean help with that shift to the
fifth dimension.
That is that is happening, youknow, and the third dimension
has become so heavy and sodifficult.
I can feel people's energy andthere's so many people talking
about all of these things.
You know, trump this and ElonMusk that and World War III.
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It's like, why are we puttingenergy towards any of this?
You know, that's a very thirddimensional way and they want it
like that, you know, in thethird dimension, they want us
externalizing, they want usdistracted, they don't want us
to have experiences like I justshared with you two gorgeous
souls where we understand howpowerful we are as spiritual
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beings, having a humanexperience.
They don't want that.
Speaker 2 (43:44):
Because then you wouldn't be a good little
consumer, cog.
Speaker 3 (43:47):
Exactly A diligent soldier for the third dimension
of.
I'll do whatever you want me todo, you know.
No, it doesn't matter.
If I'm not happy, if I'm notfeeling fulfilled in my life, if
I'm feeling caged and stressedand overwhelmed and sad all the
time, that's okay.
I'll keep doing that, it'snormal, as long as I'm doing a
good job for you and makingmoney for the 3% of people.
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And I think what's happening isright now.
We're like this, like this isthe third dimensional earth and
this is the fifth dimensionalearth, and we're like this right
now.
And it is going to separate.
There will be two earths.
There's a new earth that isbeing created, and Dolores
Cannon is someone who has talkeda lot about this and she's so.
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She recently passed, but she'sso beautiful in the way she
explains it, and that's thething the new earth is going to
be.
You know all about connection toself, connection to others,
connection to this earth.
Everyone in the fifthdimensional space is living in
alignment with who they are andtheir life purpose, because we
all have our own life purposethat, when it's shared, it makes
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other human life better.
And I mean that's the thingabout the third right.
We have corporate America thatis caging so many people.
And then the whole money thing.
You know, in the thirddimensional it's a mindset of
scarcity.
You know fear around money.
It's like it's so tight there'snever enough.
Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah,blah.
And the fifth dimension, it'slike money is energy.
We are born abundant.
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You know abundance is ourbirthright and so it's just
flows.
You know there's this massiveshift going on right now and
everyone can feel it, and so myguides are telling me stop
externalizing and shift it toself.
Anything in your life thatyou're not feeling happy with.
If it's a partner who'striggering you, if it's a friend
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who's triggering you, if it'swhere you live, the job you have
, whatever it is, money issues,how much is in your bank account
, whatever it might be shift itinwards and start looking at it
from a space of.
This is a reflection to me, youknow, recognizing that we are
the creators of our reality.
We create our reality.
Everything in our life is just,is a reflection to us, to show
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us what our beliefs are, what webelieve we're worthy of.
You know, with partnership,that's what I you know my
wheelhouse with divorce, I'mcoaching my clients to guide
them that your spouse that istriggering you.
You know the contract ofmarriage.
When you first are inrelationship with someone, the
mirror, the reflection is alllight, a lot of light.
You know.
That's why people are like, ohmy gosh, of course I want to
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marry you.
This feels amazing, I'mextraordinary, I'm so beautiful,
I'm so smart, like, yes, let'sdo this.
And then you know, thingshappen and the vibration changes
.
And when divorce comes, oranyone out there, you know
that's in a relationship thatisn't feeling great.
It's beautiful because thatperson is the only person who's
reflecting to you your shadowsas within.
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So, without Meaning the way youare, your energetic vibration,
your beliefs, your thoughtscreate your outer world.
And so stop externalizing andstart internalizing.
And you can do this by going innature.
You know, as I mentioned, myfriend Jacques Jacques Theron.
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He has a YouTube channel, hehas a website, jacquestheroncom.
He has a ton of breathworkexercises that he can guide you
through and you can really getto the core of okay, what are my
beliefs?
And there are things fromchildhood, from the ages of
birth until 10, we are in thetheta brainwave state, which
means that's the state ofcreation.
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We are master creators of ourlife.
We're creating magic everywhere, but we're also absorbing.
So whatever your parents saidor whatever you saw, that became
your belief of what love is, ofwhat money is, of how much
money I'm capable of making.
The outer world is a reflection.
And to get to the fifthdimension, I have been told, we
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have to release the attachmentsto the third.
And those attachments to thethird they're like hooks.
Those are from our childhood.
The majority are from ourchildhood, where we're attaching
to a certain way of being orbelieving in a system.
You know, I mean, I thinkcorporate America is a really
great example.
Speaker 2 (48:03):
When you say that the third dimension and the fifth
dimension are going to split, doyou mean physically?
Do you mean we're going tofollow different bifurcations of
reality into multiple universesparallel to each other?
What are we talking aboutsplitting?
Speaker 3 (48:17):
What I've been told is it's like this and it's going
to be a whole new earth.
Speaker 2 (48:22):
So it's completely physically interlinked right now
, but the physical part willseparate out.
Speaker 3 (48:28):
Yes, what I've been shown is it's like this, like
the fifth is here higher and thethird is here and the third is
going to most likely destroyitself because it's just getting
out of control.
Speaker 2 (48:40):
It's getting out of control.
Speaker 3 (48:41):
Yes, yeah, but that's the good news, that's the good
news for everybody is that youcan shift into a higher
dimensional space, and it's notlike this woo, woo, oh, this is
crazy.
It's like no, this is actuallyquantum physics, this is
actually energy, it's vibrationsof energy and I think what's
happened is, you know, in the60s, when there was that free
(49:02):
love, you know that was veryaligned with the fifth dimension
and the third kind of squashedit and said no, now it's going
to be a felony if you do thesethings and you can't.
You can't do this.
And I think what's happened nowis there's more, there's more
energy in the fifth dimension,there's more people that are in
that space and like, at leastfor myself, it's like well, I'm
not even interested in feelingthe third dimensional anymore,
(49:25):
I'm not, I'm not interested inhearing about it.
So I don't know, maybe, diana,maybe it's like I've been shown
a split, but maybe it's the same.
We're just a differentvibrations and we just don't see
it.
Speaker 2 (49:36):
We can't see it or access it.
They can't access us, andthat's fine, exactly, unless
they choose to.
Speaker 3 (49:43):
And they have to be.
You know, you have to be abeing of light to do that.
Speaker 2 (49:54):
Like you can't have darkness.
You said you published a bookrecently.
I did Tell everybody what yourbook is called and where they
can find it, and then where yourpractice is and what kind of
clients you take, because yousaid you weren't exactly
practicing law the way you usedto.
So tell us a little bit aboutyour business and what you do as
a capitalist so that we can oh,I love you, thank you.
Speaker 3 (50:08):
What do I do in the third dimension?
Do as a capitalist so that wecan?
Oh, I love you, thank you.
What do I do in the thirddimension?
Yeah, oh, I appreciate that.
So, yeah, so I still I practicelaw sort of.
I mean, I work as a mediator now, and so for the last 10 years I
work as a mediator, so I guidecouples through the divorce
journey in a very mindful andintentional manner, filled with
love, and the heart of thepractice is children.
(50:30):
The foundation is self-care andself-love.
The soul is authenticity,speaking your truth, and the
root is we're healing.
That's what we're doing andwe're shifting to another space.
I help all couples, you know,anywhere in the United States
going through a divorce, I canguide through the divorce
journey, and I just released abook that's called Shine, soul
(50:50):
Shine, and it's 30 days of selfdiscovery and healing through
divorce, and so it's writtenfrom what we talked about
earlier, that divine goddessenergy, and it's for anyone
going through divorce.
It helps them, you know, emergefrom that darkness and get back
into the light, and it's reallyeasy.
It's just 30 days so they canflip and pick whatever they want
(51:12):
and then focus energies on thatyou know whatever they're being
guided towards in that day.
So I'm really excited about it.
And then I have a masterclass,a Divorce With Love masterclass
that helps people with all theemotional stuff and the legal
stuff.
The book is the emotional, butthe masterclass talks about the
legal process and a lot ofpeople are scared about that.
And all of this can be found onyour website.
(51:32):
Yes, and that's salisdivorcecom.
Speaker 1 (51:36):
And we'll have links to that in our show notes and in
the description of this episodebelow.
Jen, this has been a joy totalk to you this has been so fun
.
You're so full of light.
I love your stories.
This has been veryinspirational.
Speaker 3 (51:49):
Both of you are just amazing.
You're just so gorgeous andyour energy is so high.
Vibe, I'm excited.
Speaker 2 (52:03):
Thank you, jen.
We appreciate you taking us onthis journey from the third
dimension into the fifth, andthen we can choose to stay there
if we dare.
Yes, painted Loves.
What do you think?
Would you choose to move into acompletely new dimension if you
could and you can?
That's definitely not going toend up in a spooky day.
Speaker 1 (52:16):
Homespun Haints is hosted by Becky Kielimnik and
Diana Doty and produced byHomespun Haints Media LLC.
Editing and music by BeckyKielimnik.
Show notes by Diana Doty.
If you have a ghost story andyou'd like to be considered as a
guest for this podcast, pleasevisit our website at
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