Threshold Moments: When It’s Time to Walk Away from the Life You Built with Dayana Mendoza

What happens when the life you've carefully built no longer resonates with your soul?

In this deeply moving episode of Honest Feedback, we sit down with medicine woman and retreat facilitator Dayana Mendoza (@dayanamendoza.us), who shares her extraordinary journey from trauma to transformation. Born during the Pablo Escobar era in Colombia and raised amid violence and loss, Dayana was working as a butcher by the age of 12. She immigrated to the U.S. at 17, eventually building a life that looked like success on paper: career at Apple, marriage, children, but felt empty inside.

"I was surrounded with so many people… and I felt so lonely," she says.

We talk about the courage it takes to step away from the familiar, the heartbreak of outgrowing relationships, and the sacred process of re-remembering who you are. Dayana walks us through the threshold moment that changed everything, when she left her job, her marriage, and her social circles to walk the unknown path of healing. Through the wisdom of plant medicine—especially ayahuasca—Dayana reconnected to her purpose and ancestral roots. What followed was a complete rebirth.

This episode is a powerful transmission on:

• What true transformation really looks like
• Healing beyond talk therapy and into the body
• The difference between processing and actual change
• Walking away from what no longer resonates, even when it looks “perfect”
• The power of trusting the unknown (especially when it makes no sense)

Dayana's story will stir something deep inside you. Whether you're navigating a rock bottom or feeling the pull toward your next level, this is your reminder that healing isn’t a destination—it’s a decision to honor what your soul already knows.

Connect with Dayana Mendoza
Instagram: @dayanamendoza.us
Website: www.spiritroute.co
Explore her sacred retreats, including an upcoming Egypt Retreat on 11/11.

This episode is sponsored by The Goddess Experience
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Honest Feedback was created by Brittney King and Lisset King.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
I could not work at Apple anymore.
I used to feel like I used towalk into Apple and see the dead
soul, wow.
And then I felt like I foundmyself in a whole new way of not
belonging, but I just didn'tbelong in that frequency.
But there was a whole notherfrequency that I did belong, a

(00:20):
whole nother set of peopleexperiences situations that
belong in this frequency, that Ihad no access here.
So over here it just felt likethere's no hope.
I'm just a robot.
I'm just getting here to getpaid and this is what I do.
Over here.
It was like open, expansive,purposeful, loving, but I needed
to let go of this in order toget that Welcome to Honest

(00:43):
Feedback, the podcast where deeptruth meets bold transformation
.

Speaker 3 (00:48):
I'm goddess Brittany King, a pleasure priestess and a
transformational retreatfacilitator who helps women
connect to their deepest truths,reclaim their pleasure and
awaken their inner power.

Speaker 2 (01:00):
And I'm Lissette King an emotional ninja and
transformational coach who helpsleaders release baggage, heal
unresolved trauma and step intotheir most aligned, purposeful
lives.

Speaker 3 (01:10):
We've created this podcast for spirit-led
individuals just like you,Seekers of truth personal growth
and meaningful connection.

Speaker 2 (01:18):
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craving more joy andfulfillment, or simply looking
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right place.

Speaker 3 (01:27):
Through personal stories, actionable advice and
transformative insights.
Our ultimate goal is to empoweryou to create a life that's
overflowing with pleasure,purpose and authenticity.

Speaker 2 (01:39):
We know you're capable of incredible things, so
let's make it happen together.
Welcome back to Honest Feedback.
We are so happy to have youhere to serve you, and today
we've got an incredible guest.

Speaker 3 (01:55):
A sister, a goddess, a queen, a dear friend.
I am so, so happy that Dijanais joining us and we have like
an epic question, y'all.
Well, before I introduce Dijana, have you ever felt like you're
at the precipice of something?

(02:15):
Yeah, maybe it's great or maybeit's something terrible, but
you know you're like right atthat tipping point.

Speaker 2 (02:23):
Uh-huh, this last new moon felt like that, oh yes.

Speaker 3 (02:27):
Very much so.
Yesterday, from when we wererecording, was new moon and
cancer, and it was a time y'allyeah it was.
So yeah, I've absolutely feltthat Well when I think of being
on like those precipicethreshold moments I know for

(02:47):
myself it's been like scary andintimidating, and the thing that
has really supported me throughis having guides, guides and
space holders, and those whohave let me know, like, by the
way, you're going to be okay,and Dijana does just that.
So Dijana is the founder ofSpirit Roots, retreat curator
and sacred spaceholder.

(03:08):
Born in Colombia and guided bythe medicine of her ancestor,
dijana supports women inreclaiming their power through
ancestral healing and community.
As a mother and medicine woman,she walks with deep wisdom and
heart.
She's led transformationalretreats across Spain, mexico,
colombia and Egypt, and her workhas been featured in Forbes,

(03:30):
double Blind Magazine and YogaJournal.
Dijana is here for every womanto rise and remember who they
are.
I am so freaking happy she ishere on the show.
Y'all what I get.
Yeah, shall we give her a call?
Let's give her a ring, goodmorning dejana.

Speaker 1 (03:50):
Good morning beautiful kings.
How are?

Speaker 3 (03:53):
you.
Oh, we are feeling so good.
Y'all, we are in for such atreat.
Dejana is a goddess, she's aqueen, she she's absolutely
incredible and we feel sohonored to call her a sister and
a friend.
I know we just said you're likea fancy bio, and how would you
say in your own words how youare serving, how you are being a

(04:15):
light in this world?

Speaker 1 (04:17):
Yeah, thank you for having me on this podcast.
The energy is definitelyreciprocating because I am also
so excited and honored to behere.
The reflection of love and thegoddess is definitely in the
space.
My journey has really beenthrough my process of
transformation and awakening, soit's very, very personal, but

(04:37):
it has been verytransformational.
So I would love to continue toshare how indigenous medicine
and plant wisdom has allowed meto like reconnect to my roots.
It's almost kind of like areturn home and me getting out
of my own way.
Like half of the work is thewisdom, is the tools, is the

(04:57):
practices, and then the otherhalf is me.
How do I get from point A topoint B?

Speaker 3 (05:03):
Yeah, Ain't that the truth?
Ain't that the truth?
Ain't that the truth?
I mean, well, for a littlebehind the scenes, we had the
honor and privilege of travelingto Egypt with Dajana, and when
we first had got this invitationit was a sacred invitation only
came through like the rightfriends and we got on the phone

(05:26):
with her and the otherfacilitator and we were like
there was just this resonance oflike Soul fam yeah, I mean you
guys call each other Prima, yeah, they're both from Colombia but
just this resonance of findingour tribe and finding our
connection and finding eachother in the light.
And so I am so excited for youto share more about what even

(05:51):
led you to Indigenous medicinespace.

Speaker 1 (05:55):
Thank you for asking such a deep question.
So so much to share.
We share snippets.
I'm from Colombia, born andraised, and I grew up in the
Pablo Escobar revolution.
So my childhood was verydifferent.

(06:16):
I grew up in a lot of violenceand a lot of chaos and a lot of
poverty poverty.
I lost my mother at the age offour.
So I grew up, my grandma raisedme.
I wasn't, I didn't have likethe mom and the dad archetype,
so I was always kind of justgrandma's assistant, grandma's
daughter, grandma's everything.

(06:36):
My grandma, it feels now nowunderstanding her role in our
home.
It seemed like she was like thedeath doula, because she was
the woman that would go aroundthe neighborhood when there was
dead people on the floor and shewould do basically the clearing
.
She'll close her eyes, she'lldo the prayer and I would be her

(07:00):
assistant.
So I remember my childhood veryvividly, waking up to, checking
who is dead in the corner,making sure it's not our
brothers, it's not our cousins,because you never know.
And I remember for so long mylife was just that, it was just
chaos, it was violence, it wastrauma, violence, it was trauma.

(07:23):
So, growing up and coming intothe States I got to the States.
Finally, when I ground here tostart my life here, I was 17.
So my English wasn't that great.
I had a lot of insecurities, Ihad a lot of fears, my emotional

(07:44):
system was really out of whack.
So obviously now we know thatwe are magnets of attraction.
So I was also attracting that.
I was attracting very chaoticexperiences.
I was attracting very lowenergy stuff, violence, all that
stuff.
So I started to realize that itwasn't the world.
I started to realize that itwas the chaos was within me.

(08:05):
But that didn't really startedto click in until actually I had
my daughter.
I had my daughter when I was 20.
Blessing, blessing.
Blessing because I feel likeshe actually gave me purpose and
she gave me reason.
At first I used to think whydid I have her so young?
But no, I needed that Godneeded to give me purpose, to

(08:26):
ground me.
So in that process of me beinga young adult not knowing how to
control my emotions, stillcarrying all this baggage from
Colombia with a little baby, andmy choice of coping was alcohol
, that was the thing In Colombia.
I also worked a lot.
I didn't really have theprivilege to go to school.

(08:48):
So from the age of 12 to 17,.
I was a butcher what Verymasculine dominant world.
And I feel like part of me wentinto that world because I
needed to protect myself,because I didn't have the mom
and the dad protection, so yeah,she had a cleaver.

(09:09):
Better than knives and learninghow to put a cow apart and do
all that stuff.
So I used to like really takepride in saying I can cut a cow
in five minutes, I can take allthis, I could take the organs,
and that at least gave me theprotection.
But in my adulthood thatmentality was very harmful.

(09:29):
It was the most harmful to me.
So, after situation andsituation and life, when you
keep walking and you're likewhat's going on and you start to
realize that it's not the world, it's me, and I found myself in
a very, very, very chaoticsituation.

(09:51):
I was actually like in a stateof my life where I it was either
at the point where either I wasgoing to go to prison or I was
going to continue my life, andthere was many things happening
because of my decisions, becauseof my mindset, because of
everything that I was channelingin.
And I was in New York and I'llfind the time to tell this story

(10:15):
.
Maybe this is not it, but we'llfind out.
But I was in New York and I metmy brother, christian, and he's
my older brother, my dad's firstmarriage, and he gifted me the
secret, the book, and it was inmy most chaotic moment.
So, reading the secret, in thatmoment, it just felt like so

(10:36):
disconnected, like what are youtalking about?
What do you mean?
I can control my thoughts.
It seemed so far away fromeverything that I had lived that
I was just like, wow, this isactually really interesting.
Like is this really true?
With the beautiful part wasthat like it planted a seed in
my soul that I didn't know.
It was like a light that Ineeded, like and like in light,

(10:58):
just parked, but I just didn'tknow the path.
It was so far alike.
But the secret, reading thesecret, understanding the power
of the self in a very small way,I started to like carve a path
for myself and then I started torealize, like, okay, it's, it's
not the world, it's me, it's myhabits, is the decisions, is

(11:20):
the people.
And obviously I'm growing mydaughter's.
Now I'm feeling a lot betterbecause life is actually feeling
better, because I'm takingresponsibility for myself and
I'm being more mindful with mythoughts, more mindful with my
habits, more mindful.
So inviting mindfulness was sucha game changer.

(11:40):
And that's the.
What do you say?
The trust threshold, yeah, oflike, how do we get to
transformation is basically likeyou're just so tired of your
own bullshit.
Like that's it.
Like you're just there's,there's, it's non-negotiable,
it's either this or that.
Like that's it, you know.
Like that's what at least itfelt like for me.

(12:01):
It wasn't like a slow process,it was just like I understand
there's something different andI need to either change and I
have to let go of this life, andalso, during that time, I'm
evolving in my womanhood.
I fall in love.
Well, I didn't fall in love.
I continue to be in love withthe man that I was in love with.
I have his child.

(12:24):
Now my life has given me morepurpose.
Now I have my daughter and Ihave my son and I now I'm like I
want to be I guess quote,unquote a normal woman that is
married and is honorable andlike all these programs in the
head.
Yeah, yeah, I want to be justlike the cool girls in the
pictures that like family andweddings and all these beautiful

(12:47):
things.
And because I am such a goodmanifester, I manifested it such
a beautiful wedding for myselfin 2017 that it was just beyond.
It was beyond everything I'veever experienced.
I was so in love with life inthat moment and then that was
the threshold to the next level.
That was like the heart opening.

(13:08):
Yeah, it first started withlike a little light that took me
into like figuring out thesethings, and then, heart open,
that changed everything.
That completely changedeverything and it changed the
way that I looked at myself.
It changed the way that Iassociated at myself.
It changed the way that Iassociated with my partner at

(13:28):
that time, my husband.
It changed the way that I wasconnected with my friends, my
work.
Everything just started to feellike there's a purpose.
I asked my I was like sayinglike, oh my God, there's a
purpose.
There's a purpose, there's areason for me to be here.
There is a reason, there's abigger reason to all of this.

(13:49):
And I remember back then I wastelling my husband that I was
just so excited because I hadfound a new purpose in life and
I wanted to change.
I wanted to do all these things.
And I remember very clearly,almost like the disappointment
in his face because he's likewhat do you mean?
I just married you for who youare.
You want to change?

(14:10):
Yeah, and that to me was likelike wow, I created a whole life
in my unconsciousness which itwas beautiful.
I mean I'm not, yeah, nobodyhere.
It was a beautiful life and itwasn't the life that was going
to take me.
That was that I had to continueon this path.

(14:32):
It was a life that it was thereto give me and nourish me and
show me love and fun andexcitement and all the good
things.
But I needed to let that lifego in order to step into a whole
new identity that I didn't evenknow existed.
So it was almost like I waslike a little girl again,

(14:53):
Learning how to be an adult, butwith new eyes, looking at the
world from the heart.
And I'm a cancer.
It's your season, so it's yourseason.
But growing up, because I'm acancer and safety is like my
number one thing and I didn'tfeel safe in most places, I had
to activate the masculine.
You would never know.

(15:14):
You would never know that I'mnice, that actually I carry a
very like mean demeanor, likedon't fuck with me, don't look
at me like.
Because I had to.
I didn't have anybody else toprotect me, so I had to like
create really strong boundaries.
Moment heart open.
I was like, oh my God life.
I saw life with different eyes.
I saw people, I saw my kids.

(15:34):
It was just like unexplainable.
It was unexplainable and thatjust led me to answer like why
am I here?
There's a reason why I'm here,there's a reason why I'm here,
there's a reason why I chosethis life.
And then that took me into arabbit hole of like very deep
self-discovery, very raw, verylike beyond understanding, you

(15:57):
know.
So I actually, now that I thinkabout I feel like it was
something had to do with myex-partner that I heard about
ayahuasca.
I know we were working withmushrooms for the purpose of,
like opening up our mind, but itwas not ceremonial style, it

(16:18):
was like us kind of having fun,microdosing, going on a hike and
just kind of touching, gettinginto the nature and in those
walks I remember hearing aboutayahuasca.
So I'm not exactly sure how,what, who, but I heard ayahuasca
and I was like, oh, I'm thetype of person where I hear
something, I get excited andit's resonating Like I'm like I
want to know more.

(16:38):
I got to find out, I got to doit.
So I went into like my path ofdiscovery what ayahuasca was for
me.
It was like this is exactlywhat I needed, because back then
I was actually working forApple and I had a really good
position and I had like the besttherapist, best support, all of

(16:59):
it.
It was great, but it just feltlike I was giving therapy to my
therapist.
The amount of stuff that I'vebeen through, the amount of it
was just shocking for her, likeshe couldn't.
It was just like what you know.
And then rabbit hole starts andnow I'm giving therapy to her

(17:20):
and it's just like it was nice.
I feel like talk therapy wasnice to process many things, but
the stuff that I needed toprocess was like in my dna, it
was in my body.
It was like I need to get, Ineeded to purge, I need to.
So I'm discovering uh, I'mreading about ayahuasca.
I read that it comes to southamerica, colombia.
I'm like it's colombia, I'mgoing back, this is my, my

(17:41):
medicine.
I'm like this is my roots.
I'm going back home.
And he's like okay, basically,if you make that choice, that's
you, but I don't support it.
That, to me, started to veryclearly start to see like oh,
okay, this work is not foreverybody.
This is a very personal thingand it's going to affect

(18:04):
everything.
Yeah, I decided to take a leapand sit with the medicine that
completely changed my life, likethat experience with Mother
Ayahuasca in 2018, it was themost transforming experience
I've ever had.
Like I can't.

(18:26):
There's nothing that I can putto together.
Also, before I work with themedicine because I was like
searching I started tounderstand like you have to
respect the medicine, it's anenergy.
You have to go on a diet.
You have to do all these things.
You have to stop drinking, youhave to stop smoking, you have
to stop having sex.
It was all the things I wasdoing.
Yeah, it was all the things Iwas doing.
I have to, like, leave my wholelife.

(18:46):
I have to be different.
So the moment that I said okay,I don't know where, how or how
I'm going to do this medicine, Ijust know I'm going to do it
and I know it's going to come tome.
And for now, all I need to knowis how can I be in this shape
so I can be in a relationship?
So I was like I have to stopdrinking.
So that was shape, so I can bein good relationships.
I was like I have to stopdrinking.

(19:06):
That was a big thing for me.
I have to stop eating meat.
I grew up being a butcher.
Stop eating, not having meat inmy plate, just having a bunch
of side dishes, it was veryoffensive.
Like how am I going to livewithout me?
How is that?
And then also I was tapping inwith other medicines, like Santa
Maria.
So I used to work with themedicine and just partying

(19:31):
people, blah, blah, blah, blah,blah, all that stuff.
So I just started, little bylittle, cutting, cutting,
cleaning, cleaning.
It was basically like asix-month process of me
preparing for this medicine.
I still didn't know how or whenor who.
All I know is I had a bunch ofcleaning I need to do.
In this process of me cleaningmyself, I met a woman after I

(19:52):
left the gym.
I went to an Herbalife club toget a protein shake and this
woman holds my hand and she'slike oh my God, god, there's
something so special about yourenergy.
Um, I would love to invite youto an ayahuasca ceremony oh what
?
yeah?
Yeah, it was crazy because alittle context, before, when I

(20:14):
decided to do this, I said I'mgonna do this and I'm gonna do
it for my birthday and I'm gonnahave a reverse, like is and
this was kind of like after thewedding.
Maybe we're tapping intoDecember.
I got married in October, we'reholidays December and I'm like
I can't do this.
This is what I have to do.
So then now we're like in Marchand just the diet alone, just

(20:38):
me cutting meat and alcohol,just those two things.
It basically changed my wholecircle.
It changed my whole circle.
I started to understand whypeople were connecting with me,
why we were having theseconversations, because there was
something that they were alsoworking through that they just
didn't want to work through.
So we'll just unconsciouslylike, cope together and party

(21:02):
and whatever, bypass everything.
Right, yeah, let's drink aboutit.
Yeah, let's drink about it,whatever.
But um, no, this time it wasjust like clear, like exactly
what I needed to do and themedicine took me to the right
person that needed to invite meand she said this is an
ayahuasca ceremony that we'rehaving June 22nd, for the

(21:25):
weekend of June 22nd, and June22nd is my birthday.
I knew.
I knew beyond doubt.
I knew the medicine had broughtme here.
I knew the medicine was takingme.
I just knew it.
Like there was no thing for meto like question it or nothing.
I had it.
Set a prayer.
I was already doing my diet anduniverse talked to me and I was

(21:47):
like this is it, this is it,this is where I have my rebirth.
So I continue my journey.
I basically prepare my body sixmonths before the journey.
My teacher bless his heart Ilove him so much he is all about
the process of ascension.
So he explains like we don'tlive in the jungle, we're

(22:08):
getting sprayed with stuff,there's stuff in our food,
there's stuff in our water,there's all kinds of stuff.
So how can we cleanse our bodyin order to receive the medicine
in a good way?
So I got invited into afive-medic medicine journey
where I had to detox my body andwith that we work with the
medicine of combo, and I had todetox my mind, and that we work

(22:29):
with the medicine of hoppe andjoppo masculine.
And then now, with a clean bodyand a clean mind, I was able to
drink mother ayahuasca.
Oh my God, that was like, likeit basically dismantled
everything I thought I knewabout myself, like nothing was

(22:54):
true.
All the stories I had toldmyself, all the things, the way
I looked at life, the way Iconnected with life, everything
just broke, dismantled.
And then, so divinely, motherAyahuasca just put everything
back together in the mostbeautiful way, where I, not all
of a sudden, but pretty muchafter the ceremony, I knew I had

(23:16):
purpose, I knew I belonged, Iknew I came, I reconnected with
everybody that I had to let go,but in an energetic way, and ask
for forgiveness from them andthen also like allow myself to
continue my path.
I was in a very lonely pathbecause I was the only person in
my circle doing this.
I looked, I was like the weirdone that is doing weird stuff

(23:43):
and nobody understands.
And now I don't want to hangout and I don't want to drink
and I don't want to smoke and Idon't want to do all these
things.
And I would hear sometimes frompeople like do you think you're
better than us?
And I'm like it has nothing todo with that.
It's very rooted personal thing, like choosing the self and
choosing transformation.
It's a very, very intimatepersonal thing for some people

(24:06):
to get triggered or to getbothered because you're taking,
you're having boundaries foryourself, you're doing diets,
you're taking care of yourself.
That can trigger people, butthat's also an invitation for
their transformation.
Oh yeah, that's it.
You know, at first I was like,oh no, I want to be loving, I
want everybody to accept me, Iwant to be people pleaser,
people pleaser, but being inthose spaces, people pleasing, I

(24:29):
was like, oh, yeah not be here?
I cannot.
So it was just like situationlearning expanding, feeling,
situation learning expanding.
It was like that learningexpanding, feeling situation
learning expanding.
It was like that.
It was like layers and layersand layers until, little by
little, I basically in 2019, Icould not work at Apple anymore.

(24:53):
I used to feel like I used towalk into Apple and see the dead
soul.
Wow, by the time 2019 happened,I had already drank probably
like three ayahuasca ceremonies.
I already had like some reallydeep processes for myself.
So I was like very deepexcavating, and then I felt like

(25:16):
I found myself in a whole newway of not belonging.
But I just didn't belong inthat frequency.
But there was a whole notherfrequency that I did belong and
there was a whole nother set ofpeople, experiences, situations
that belong in this frequency,that I had no access here.
So over here, it just felt likethere's no hope.

(25:36):
I'm just a robot.
I'm just getting here to getpaid and this is what I do, like
that's it.
Over here, it was like open,expansive, purposeful loving,
but I needed to let go of thisin order to get that this
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They were owning their power,they were who they were meant to
be.
And the thing about the goddessexperience.
We are asking you to step inand unleash your goddess and let
us serve you as the queen thatyou are.

Speaker 3 (27:29):
Yes.
So if this is something thatcalls to you, we have just
opened enrollment to the public,and so check out the link below
is the invitation page and fillout an application.
It is intimate.
There are only nine women inthis temple space.
So if this is something whereyou feel the tug, definitely say

(27:50):
yes, absolutely.
I'm going to pause you for asecond.
Yeah, this is just, it's justso good.
It's so good.
I mean, as as everyone listening, as everyone's jaw dropped, who
pulled over the car to hearabout this thing.
I mean, like, from thebutchering to moving to a whole
new country, starting a life um,driving by, I was gonna go to

(28:13):
jail like you've had just such arich, rich life, and so I feel
so grateful that you're here topour into our community so we
can learn through yourexperiences and through your
life.
And I just want to introducethe question that came through,
because I feel like you're righttouching on all this stuff.

(28:35):
So we got a question what doestrue healing look like?
How do we know when we'vecrossed the threshold from
processing to transformation?
And when you were sharing thatmoment of like things being down
here, not vibrating at thatfrequency, but then there was a

(28:57):
whole new level of spaces Like,I guess the question that's on
my heart is how did you know itwas time to transform?
How did you know it was time totransform?

Speaker 1 (29:16):
Because I was surrounded with so many people
and I felt so lonely.

Speaker 2 (29:21):
Oh damn, I've been hit yeah.

Speaker 1 (29:27):
I was in a group full of loving people that wanted to
love me in their way, in theirfrequency, but I felt so lonely
and that's when I knew.

Speaker 3 (29:39):
And what gave you the courage to say yes?
Because I know from myexperiences like these threshold
moments where you're just likelife's good, it's good, it's not
good, it's fine, it's not fine,but it's all you know.
It's all you know, and I mean,like you moved country, like

(30:00):
sometimes it's all you know isthe people who love you in their
way and you feel alone.
But how did you have thecourage to trust, to put your
own self on dieta before youeven met the shaman?
You know what I mean.
Like, yeah, what gave you thecourage?

Speaker 1 (30:21):
I was just tired with myself, I was tired with my
patterns, I was tired with myhabits, I was tired with how the
energy felt, like I just like Igot to a point where I was like
this is not it.
I don't know what is, but Ijust know that this is not it.
And I know that, little bylittle, I need to start making
changes so I can tap in intowhat is it?

(30:43):
Just for me, personally, itjust got like a point where I
was just like this is it?
It gets black and white, like Ineed to make a decision and I'm
gonna make this decision formyself.
And I think something thatreally helped me was to tap into
like, um, like a very deep,like belief, like trusting in

(31:08):
the unknown.
Yeah, like it was like a veryrooted, very spiritual, very
like knowing, like I may notknow what's going to happen
tomorrow, but I know theuniverse and god and my mom and
my ancestors and all of the Iknow they got me.
I know I'm not going through allthis for no reason, like I know

(31:29):
they got me, I know there's apurpose, I know there's a path,
like.
But I don't need to know whatexactly.
I just need to trust that I'mokay, it's okay, I'm safe.
So I started creating mantrasfor myself, like I'm with God
and God is with me.
That mantra really helped methrough many dark cycles for
many things, because I justdidn't know and the only light

(31:50):
that really hold me was myconnection to my divinity, my
connection to like my mother.
That connection was imprintedin me at a very young age.
Like I mentioned before, I lostmy mother at the age of four.
She passed from ovarian cancer.
So growing up my grandma hadand she used to put her stuff

(32:14):
and her picture and she used toalways, if I needed my mom or I
was acting up or I neededsomething, she said go talk to
your mom, go talk to your mom.
So from a very young age Icreated an identity with spirit
as my mom, but knowing that Ican go to this energy-focused
space and I can ask for thingsand I can share what's in my

(32:37):
heart, I can ask for help, I can, you know.
So in me being a little girl,not having my mom but having
this energy focused space, Iused to ask for safety.
So then I would.
She would help me hide in manythings, in many places.
So that's kind of how theenergy helped me growing up.
It was like hide over here,come over here, hide over here,

(33:00):
like I would literally hear hideover here, like I would hear
those voices here, like I wouldliterally hear hide over here,
like I would hear those voicesin my head and I would just like
, okay, and then I would go hideand then something would happen
that chaos, violence, da, da da.
And then my grandma actuallyused to struggle because I used
to hide so well and then I usedto fall asleep in my hiding
space.
They couldn't find me.

(33:21):
Wow, so well, and then I usedto fall asleep in my hiding
space.
They couldn't find me.
Eventually they started tounderstand that was my safety
mechanism and that was the waythat I was like working with my
mom.
Well, in this times of like nowI'm an adult and all these
things are happening I stillanchor myself to that light.
I still anchor myself to herspirit.
I still anchor myself to thatlight.
I still anchor myself to herspirit.

(33:42):
I still was like mom, just leadme, guide me, show me, protect
me, you know.
And maybe this feels reallyscary, maybe I don't know where
I'm going, maybe I just need tolet this go.
Like leaving my relationship.
That was probably by far one ofthe hardest things I've had to
do in my life far one of thehardest things I've had to do in

(34:05):
my life.
Like not knowing how.
I just married this guy, that Ihave his children, that he was
also my first boyfriend when Iwas like 12.
The first time I came to thestate it was just so many things
.
I was like this was it, butSpirit was like this is not it.
And I was like what, how?
How is this not it when it's sobeautiful?
So it's just like trusting inthe, in the path, even when it's
uncomfortable, even when you'relike that doesn't make sense,

(34:28):
and then you're just like thatdoesn't make sense, neither.
Stay rooted to yourself, stayrooted to your purpose.
So I knew that I was here forsomething.
I didn't exactly know exactlywhat.
All I knew that I just neededto start healing myself.
So ayahuasca took me into a verydeep process of understanding
me, my purpose, my journeys, andit's taken many ceremonies to,

(34:52):
and it continued like I'm stillnot healed.
This is nowhere near healed.
I'm healing.
This is my journey of healing.
I think that once we get tohealed, we're done.
We go to another, you know.
So kind of cool.
It's very humbling to say, yeah,like I don't need to be healed,
I don't need to be perfect, allI just need to be is me.

(35:13):
You know where it's not.
None of this is none of this issomething that I cannot bypass.
This is who I am, this is myfeelings are real, what I want
is real.
All of that.
And I feel like beforeayahuasca, I used to bypass my
needs, I used to not takeresponsibility or even like my

(35:35):
feelings.
You know like I used to feel,and because I didn't want to
create things with people, or Ijust didn't want to get sticky
energy, I would just not sayanything bypass, bypass.
And all that was affecting me,obviously, as we know.
So the threshold is basicallylike unconditional faith,

(35:56):
without knowing, and you justgot to be tired of your own
bullshit and you just gotta betired of your own bullshit.

Speaker 3 (36:05):
It's so good, it's so good.
I just, oh, I feel you andthank you so much for sharing
just like the intimacy of yourexperience and these moments.
Um, I have a question for youis that like we can round robin
it?
But something that you saidthat just really hit me in the
heart was I decided to trust inthe unknown, and so I just want

(36:28):
each of us to kind of sink intothat experience a little bit
more, maybe share with people,from our point of views, how we
decided to trust in the unknown.
Because I know, before I hadever trusted in the unknown.
When someone said things likethat, or gave me the secret
which sat on my shelf for years,untouched, untouched, you know

(36:49):
I was just like I don't knowwhat they mean, you know.
Or like when someone's like, oh, you'll find love when you're
not looking at it for it, it'slike what does that mean?
When am I not looking for it?
So, babe, can you start us off?
Yeah, how did you learn totrust the unknown?

Speaker 2 (37:04):
Well, I think, very similar to Dijana.
One of the things that Iexperienced was I got tired of
my own shit.
And, speaking of thresholds,one thing that I find in my

(37:24):
clients is they come to me whenthey've hit bottom or they've
hit the top of what they've beenable to do.
So that's the threshold.
They're like, well, life isgoing good, but something's
keeping me from going further.
And for me personally, on myjourney, the low was so low I
preferred the unknown, becausewhat was going on was death.
I didn't want to live anymorethe way I was living.

(37:44):
I felt like the Walking Dead.
I felt like a zombie.
I was like it's got to getbetter than this.
I'll leap into the unknown,because at that point in time, I
was, I was close to taking myown life.
So I was like, well, I can fixsomething or I can.
There's nothing.
So that's that's the threshold.
That I felt, and that'softentimes what I feel when

(38:05):
people come to me is like fuck,it's just not nothing's getting
any better.
And that could be on the bottomside and that could be on the
upper side.

Speaker 3 (38:16):
That's so good.
Oh, I'm saying to myself, yeah,my threshold moment also was,
uh, uh, almost death.
Many, yeah, quite a few timeswhere it's like I, the way I
feel about it in my head and myheart, it's like you're walking
a path and things just keepgetting darker and darker and

(38:39):
darker and you're like, well,maybe, maybe it'll change.
Nothing has changed except forit's become more of what it is.
It's become more of what it is,the truth of what it was.
And mine was in my rape when Ifloated out of my body and I had
the moment and spirit's likeyou can just keep going the way

(39:00):
you're going.
I had the moment and spirit'slike you can just keep going the
way you're going.
This might be the end for youright here, right now.
Or you can make a change and itrequires you to come into your
body and we're going to have tostart looking at things and
start being with thingsdifferently.
And it completely changed mylife and I feel so grateful and

(39:21):
like part of me is always like,oh, did it have to get that dark
?
Did it have to get that loud?
You know, but like it's the yes, it's like we.
Everybody has their own bottom.
Yeah, everybody has their ownbottom, everybody has their own
experience.
Where you go, well, this can'tbe all there is, can't be like

(39:43):
you said.
This can't be all there is, itcan't just be, I mean to
drinking and picking up likevomiting outside a cab and
sleeping with people.
It's terrible and just feelingempty and hollow and working
under fluorescent lighting yeah,you know, you and I joke about.

Speaker 2 (40:01):
We took the rapey road to enlightenment.
Yeah, I don't know if you'relistening to this podcast.
Some of you have too.
Yes, and it's just like thingshad to get so fucking terrible
to realize that maybe theproblem is me, not, you know,
this isn't about victim blamingor anything this is from.
Can you take the ownership thatyour life doesn't have to be

(40:23):
this bad, you know, or it canget better, and I love that.
You showed the other side theperspective, like you had all
this trauma you grew up with andthen you had the beautiful life
that you thought you wanted,and you're like this, ain't it?
You know, and that that heartopening moment is just like we
don't.
For me, I don't know when it'sgoing to happen.

(40:45):
Sometimes I can look at someoneelse.
I'm like it looks like yourbottom.
One of my teachers, valen, saysshe goes uh, it's a sad day
when you realize the bottom hasa basement.
You know like, yeah, yeah, youknow, and it's just like
everyone finds them in their owntime, but that like faith, and

(41:05):
undeniable faith in the unknownis it's a big ask.

Speaker 1 (41:10):
It's a big ask and it's key.
It's key because when you're inthat basement and you're in
darkness, there's really notvoices there's, you know, even
maybe the people that love youare maybe the most triggering at
that point because you're goingto receive.
So it just has to be beyond.
It has to be faith beyondknowing, beyond understanding,

(41:31):
beyond, like for me, too, likewhatever I knew, the faith of
everything I knew was not it.
This is, I just need to tap itinto the magic.
Well, what if I am magical?
What if this works?
What if it does?
You know, what if I do have abetter life?
And yeah, I mean when I madethat decision in 2019, I left

(41:53):
Apple, I left my marriage, Ileft all my friends.
I had to take a six monthjourney to travel and find
myself, so, essentially, I hadto get family support to help me
with the children.
My daughter went to Colombia tolearn Spanish.
It was like perfect, but it wasalso very, very, very like.

(42:14):
It was like getting ripped awayfrom the life that you thought
you knew it.
And for me, it was veryimportant too, because in the
life that I had created, Ididn't have, I never created a
space for me.
So, I was always like I need tobe with people.

(42:36):
If I want to go eat, I want togo eat with people.
If I want to go for a walk, Igo with people.
And for the first time in mylife I was like I am okay to be
by myself, I am okay to travelby myself, I am okay.
I am safe to go to a restaurantand take myself out, I am okay.
That happened like almost 30years after my life.
It took me so long because Ihad so many codependencies.

(43:00):
I'm sure it has a lot to dowith my inner child trauma where
I just didn't want to be aloneand all this stuff.
But I knew that I needed to letgo of all of that.
And the moment you giveyourself that permission to be
alone, to be with your thoughts,to be in your darkness, to be
with your faith beyond knowing,that's the moment that light

(43:23):
within starts opening up.
So it's like the light isbirthed within.
The light is not out and I usedto think like where do I go?
Where do I buy?
What do I need to do?
I need to get it.
It's out.
But the moment of thattransformation allowed me to
understand that it's within,it's not out.

(43:45):
There's not so many coursesthat I can get.
I mean, I've gone courses thatI haven't even looked at or I
haven't even studied.
They're still sitting.
And I understood that we humans, we don't really learn by the
words.
We learn by experiences.
We need to feel, we need toexperience, we need to like,
understand life, you know.

(44:06):
So I went into a beautifuljourney of saying yes to myself
and saying no to everything else, which was also very
heartbroken for many people, wasalso very heartbroken for many
people.
You know my marriage, mychildren, family.
It was just a lot, a lot of alot of things that I'm still to
this point, I'm still knittingtogether and I'm, you know, in a

(44:30):
way repairing, but I'm sewingit with love, without the
condition of them needing to bewith me or needed to look the
way I needed to look.
It's like no, I stepped away.
I did what I had to do formyself.
Everybody had to do what theyhad to do for themselves and
it's okay for me to love themfrom here, it's okay for them to

(44:50):
love me from there and we don'tneed to do this entanglement
because we're different beings,like I, have different
intentions, I have differentthings and that was like huge
for me to understand that I amenergy, like I'm full
everything's energy, you know.
So if I'm not being mindful ofthe energy in my space, the

(45:10):
energy of the people that I'mconnecting to, I'm so sensitive,
my energy doesn't discriminateand it just goes there.
So in my path of now steppinginto this other dimension of
knowing myself different,understanding myself, boundaries
, energy, you know, sometimes Iget to a point where I'm like
man, I feel like I'm an energysnob.

Speaker 3 (45:35):
I'm right there with you.

Speaker 1 (45:38):
There are these things that I'm like, things but
no things.
I have no tolerance.

Speaker 2 (45:43):
No.

Speaker 1 (45:45):
Yeah, because the energy is so valuable.
It's the fountain of youth,it's the fountain of wellness
and blessings and all the things.
So it's like I can't.
Saying yes to me was basicallysaying yes to my boundaries.
It was basically saying, yes, Ilove you, please forgive me,

(46:05):
thank you and I'm sorry to allthe people that I made all these
beautiful connections but Ijust could no longer take them.
Because I love traveling intime, I love traveling.
You invite me to travel, let'sgo.
I understood that not a lot ofpeople like to travel like I
like to travel in time.
So my path of growingcompletely like accelerated and

(46:26):
I don't want to say left behind.
But you know, it's like youchange.
You change.
Yeah, there's the, there's aseparation that is created
between your relationships andthe things, and the beautiful
part is that separation createsspace and that space breaks in
the new people and breaks in thenew experiences and brings in.
So this is when all this past,like five years of my life, has

(46:49):
been so divine.
Because I said no to all thisstuff.
I threw myself, I went into ahigh mountain and I went off the
cliff.
I didn't know.
I went into a high mountain andI went off the cliff.
I didn't know, I just had to doit.
And then, on the way down, Iwas held with so much love.
I was held with so much lovefrom like energy, my guides,
everybody the universe wasbringing to me.

(47:11):
Everybody had a code, everybodyhad a message, everybody had a
creation, everything had ameaning.
Everything has a meaning.
Now you know, like I don't livea life with no meaning, like
even a text message, even anotification, I'm like, oh, what
time is it?
Oh, five, five, five.
That means something.
Yeah, yeah, everything has ameaning.
So for me now I feel like Ilive in a very magical life

(47:35):
because I given myself thepermission to be in this magical
space.
It really started with megetting out of my own way, me
really acknowledging that itwasn't the world, it was me, and
giving myself permission tojust unlearn, heal, stepping
into this space without so muchjudgment for myself and others

(47:58):
and recreate new.
And in this newness I'vecreated so many beautiful things
connected with y'all.
I've done Egypt, I've done manyretreats around the world and
it has been like the mostfulfilling experience ever so
far.
Yet I don't know what else iscoming.
I'm so excited for what'scoming, but so far, right now I
can say the last five years,I've stepped into like a radical

(48:21):
, purposeful, like raw, like Idon't care, like yes, there's
many things happening in theworld.
The sacred medicine made me notfully, fully, you know, in
legality, like we want it to be.
But we are in the process ofdecolonizing our minds, we are
in the process of decolonizingnature, we're in the process of

(48:42):
decolonizing the elements, thespirit, like for us to tap into
that.
So now the way that I seemyself and us is that we're like
an anchor of light and thatanchor of light allows others to
illuminate themselves.
And that anchor of light allowsothers to illuminate themselves.
My prayer and my hope isthrough my story I'm able to

(49:03):
help either women or men, orwhoever it's in that process of
transformation of, like that,brooded darkness, death, that
things that there is no hope.
There is so much hope.
There's so much hope.
There's so much wellness.
There's so much hope, there'sso much wellness, there's so
much light.
You just only have to get outof your own way, because we're
the only person that stands inour own way like give yourself

(49:25):
that permission to say what iflife is not happening to me?
what?
If life is happening through me.
How can I live differently?

Speaker 3 (49:41):
Chills.
So, so good, I'm just soinspired and feeling lit up and
like, yeah, like the depth ofwhat you've touched on, your
stories have just been someaningful and so impactful and,
like I so appreciate that we'veall been sharing like little
pieces of being at these moments, something that I'm feeling

(50:02):
into and open for discussion.
Do you guys feel like whenyou're at the threshold, where
you're moving up to a next level, is it the same as the rock
bottom moment?
Do you feel like it's different?
How is it different?
How is it similar?
How is?

Speaker 1 (50:18):
it similar?
Yeah, yeah, great question, andI feel like it.
It feels like a bottom, butit's not rock bottom.
Yeah, you know.
Yeah, I'm no longer at that low, low, low point.
It's no longer there.
But I do feel like, as we ascendand we get tapping into
different experiences andsituations, we do get to those

(50:40):
points of low, because it'slevels, there's levels to the
shit.
So once you get into that lowlevel, your spirit, your mind
and everything is ready torecreate the new, and you have
to know what you don't like andwhat you don't want in order to
create what you do want.
Yeah, so it doesn't matter howascended, how we're moving,

(51:02):
there's always going to becontrast, and contrast is just
opening up the door for more.
So I no longer see it like Iused to see it.
I no longer see like, oh,bottom, I'm dead.
This is it, like I'm just gonnasit here and just drink my life
away.
Yeah, yeah, I see it like oh,oh, okay, this doesn't feel good

(51:25):
, let me honor it.
Okay, I get, this doesn't feelgood.
What will feel better?
Yes, and then it's like, oh,yeah, that will feel better.
Okay, giving myself thatpermission to feel into what
feels better and see how can Imove my needle towards that, and
it might be like a full needlemove.
It could be just.

(51:46):
Maybe we can start withjournaling, maybe we can start
with talking to some magicalbeings Like yo, maybe we can go
for a hike, or maybe we couldtake a nap, maybe we can eat
some nutrition food.
What gets me to feel better?
And in that better state, whatis the next step?
Building blocks, buildingblocks.
So I feel like we're alwayssupposed to feel that's the

(52:09):
spectrum.
We want to be here in themiddle, right, but this is
pressure, density, contrast andthis is like enlightenment.
We can't always be here and wecan't always be here, yeah, so
it's like a good middle of likeacceptance, joy, understanding,

(52:31):
unconditional love.
Anchoring to those frequenciesallows me to walk my days
knowing kind of like the worldis is like falling apart.
The world is falling apart, butI am no longer falling apart and
that's because before it was mefalling apart and the world was
here, but it was me fallingapart.

(52:53):
Yeah well, even in my lowmoments I no longer fall apart.
I I can identify like, I havethe tools and I have the energy
to separate myself and then seewhere I want to go forward.
So yeah, those moments alwayscome and they're going to come
and I'm sure when I get to likemy most enlightened self, I'm
going to have that the pressure,but that's going to take me to

(53:15):
the next level.
So I no longer, I'm no longerscared, I don't longer see it as
a bad thing.
I'm like pressure's here, yay,fear's here, yay.

Speaker 2 (53:28):
Yeah, to circle back on your question, I think what
it comes down to is motivation,energy, right?
So when you're at the bottom,you have away from energy.
You're like, well, I don't wantto feel this, so you get away
from it.
And then, when you're away fromit enough, you're like, well,
at least I'm away from it.
And then the old patterns sinkback in.

(53:49):
And then I think, when you'reat the top of the threshold,
it's the toward energy.
You're getting pulled toward ahigher vision.
And I think that's why I amreally big on listening to my
avatar, like my version ofmyself 10 years from now,
because I listen to that and Igo what would that 10-year
version of me do today?
How would she live her life andall that.

(54:11):
And then that's where I couldfeel my top, that's where I
could feel my threshold, that'swhere I could feel my threshold.
You know I quit drinking.
I just celebrated a year ofsobriety, of no drinking, no
smoking weed, and you know Irespect everybody's decision, is
their own decision.
I don't think I'm better thananyone.
This was what I chose for me,right?

(54:31):
And it's been a year ofsobriety.
And then I was like, oh, a yearpassed and I still want more in
my physical temple, like now I'mon a health journey, now I'm on
a working out journey, and nowI'm like, oh how, if I'm someone
who moves energy for a livingand helps people move their
energy, then this temple needsto be so dialed in and so that I

(54:54):
have that vision of me pullingin Rich, rusted, shredded
Brittany and I I'm like, okay,we're doing better on, rich,
arrested, but the shredded needsto come in, you know, and and
it's pulling me and I, but Irealized the top.
I was like, okay, my mind'sclear, but my body can hold more
.
And I now I want what's next.

(55:15):
And so I think, when you're thediscipline, discipline is sexy,
abs are sexy.
You can't buy them.
You can't buy them.
What they could do with themedical industry is long, but
it's sexy because you show up toit, and that's what I think the
difference of the top is.
You go, this is good.

(55:35):
I'm inside my dream.
Let's dream bigger.

Speaker 3 (55:39):
Let's dream bigger.
Let's dream bigger.
Yeah, something that just cameinto my mind while you guys were
sharing about this is you know,butterflies, the caterpillar
goes in there, goes in the thingI'm not sure if you know this
part, but it actually has toimpale itself.
It has to stab itself andthat's what turns it into goo, I

(56:00):
know so.
It has to, it has to willingly.
Yeah, jones goes in and then,you know, it becomes goo, it's
reforming and then it has tomake its way out, and usually
that requires a lot of that,that juxtaposition of like force
and surrender, force andsurrender.
So it's like this I'm pushing,I'm letting go, I'm pushing, I'm

(56:22):
letting go, and so, like this,who that I feel like sometimes
the universe is supporting uswith and sometimes we forget.
Oh, my God, I've gone throughthis transformation experience
before.
I'm familiar with these energyand like I'm just getting
birthed to my next level and Iknow for myself it's been this
thing of like.
You're like I'm out of thecocoon and you're like good, so

(56:46):
I'm out forever, right, and thenthe universe goes mostly,
except for spread you know, andso honoring the rhythm and
cycles of like.
If there's nowhere to get to andwe're never done, you know
there's no like, there's no door.

Speaker 2 (57:06):
That says enlightenment and just yeah,
there's no doors asenlightenment.

Speaker 3 (57:09):
It's like it's Buddha and Christ and they're just
sitting there not having tea orwhatever you know.
Like, if we're just in thiscycle, how can I be more open
and honoring the cycle and likewhen you're like, oh, the fear
is here, oh, the challenge ishere, yay, and get like you
teach us.
In Huna, the Hawaiians used tocelebrate when baggage came up,

(57:30):
cause it's like great, it's timefor you to let it go.
If you're, you're at a newlevel, you're on the new
threshold.
So, honoring these rhythms andcycles of like, hey, y'all,
they're a continual thresholdand mine are not like my bottom,
I started listening to Spiritwhen there's whispers instead of

(57:51):
screams or loud thuds, you know.
But honoring that I mightalways be in this cycle of the
caterpillar to the butterfly,and like each time I'm birthing
myself as a new butterfly, butthat everything is for me, the
like push and the surrender isfor me.

Speaker 1 (58:10):
Exactly that happens to you.
Yes, for you.

Speaker 3 (58:15):
Yes, I love happening through it.

Speaker 1 (58:18):
That's a crazy little difference, but it makes
everything.
It allows you to reallyunderstand, like man, you're not
the victim.
Yeah, you're the creator.
We are the creators of ourlives.
We could live in victimhood,but that can only last us for so
long.
No, it's like.
Now we're done with this.

Speaker 2 (58:38):
Mm-hmm.

Speaker 1 (58:39):
We're next.
That's that.
That's the transformation.
That's when you stop when beinga victim.
It no longer serves you.
Yes, the victim is actuallyannoying yeah, I feel this so
right.

Speaker 3 (58:53):
I feel like we're in a sometimes we're in a society
where it's like who can be thebigger victim?
You know even our legal system.
It's like who's the biggervictim in it.
And so when you have made thedecision that the benefits of
being a victim where you want togo is actually higher than what
those benefits can offer you,and you put that down and step

(59:14):
into I am the creator and what Ican create is better than what
victimhood was creating.

Speaker 1 (59:24):
That's the threshold.

Speaker 2 (59:25):
Yeah, oh, such a good conversation, yeah.
So, dijana, you have been suchan incredible force in our life.
You have taken us to Egypt.
You've done things.
How can people get a hold ofyou if they want to experience
your medicine?

Speaker 1 (59:43):
Yeah, thank you.
Yeah, I'm out there, I'm in thesocials.
So if you want to find me onInstagram, it's DajanaMendozaus.
If, through my Instagramprofile, mendozaus.
Um.
If, through my instagramprofile, you'll be able to see
my website.
I have a website that I offermy services, um, it's called

(01:00:04):
spirit routes and that is veryconnected to my path.
If, like, really understandingthat I don't have much control,
that this is, spirit is routingmy way.
So I found a very beautifulconnection with that name.
So, through spiritroutesco,you'll be able to see my
services, my offerings, theretreats I offer and the Egypt

(01:00:24):
experience that we're offeringthis year for 11-11.

Speaker 2 (01:00:28):
Oh gosh, oh yes, Egypt is incredible.
Cannot recommend it enough.
Yeah, I mean.

Speaker 3 (01:00:36):
I just want to say Dajana is an incredible,
incredible space holder.
She gifted us a beautifulexperience of being held by her
in medicine right before ourwedding.
Huge threshold moment.
Huge threshold moment.
Everything created the spacefor myself to truly transform

(01:00:57):
and release things that werereally stuck at the root.
So like, if you are looking forsupport, if you want someone
who fucking holds the ground,this girl got you like on the
friend tip.
These stories just scratch thesurface Like she will hold you,
yeah, yeah, your stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:01:14):
Yeah, she's like yeah , just get a pillow, we're a
piece of shit.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:01:16):
You're soft.
Yeah, she's like just get apillow, we're good she holds it
down.

Speaker 2 (01:01:23):
My experience of Dijon is like you're like a tree
, you're unmovable, no matterwhat I was experiencing, no
matter what my partner wasexperiencing.
You held us and like.
I looked to you and I was like,oh, we're good, no matter

(01:01:46):
what's happening in the room, wewere so good and so um cannot
recommend her enough.

Speaker 1 (01:01:48):
I send all of my, send all my best clients to her.
You know, yes, all likewise,I'm always sending my clients to
you too.
Okay, there's enough plantmedicine.
You need to go do abreakthrough.

Speaker 2 (01:01:58):
Yes, yes, yes.
We love it combined it's avillage.

Speaker 1 (01:02:02):
It works together.

Speaker 2 (01:02:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:02:04):
Yeah, and thank you for just being the light and
supporting us all, because whenone of us rise, all of us rise,
and it's an honor to hold lightwith you and be light for the
world.

Speaker 1 (01:02:15):
It's an honor to hold this light with you.
It's an honor to be co-creating.
Spirit knew exactly what Spiritwas doing when we connected in
Egypt.
Out of all the places in theworld, we did all the magical
things and I'm just in, like I'min awe.
It's an honor.
I actually just finished myHuna intro, which I'm so, so

(01:02:36):
excited because I've been likereally like honing into, like a
new practice and it's sobeautiful.
So, yeah, both of you are soinspiring.
Brittany, seshur, goddess,priestess, everything oh my God,
you're still helping me heal.
There's still so much work thatI know I'm identifying that I'm

(01:02:57):
working through you, um.
So thank you.
And lissette, oh my god,emotional.
India, prima family.
Both of you are just so amazing.
So I'm just so grateful and,yeah, let's continue to work
together because this journey isof transformation, of awakening
, of healing your divine,feminine, tapping into your

(01:03:18):
sensuality, or letting go of thebaggage, letting go of the
things that blocks us, maybeallowing ourselves to tap into
indigenous medicine, like all ofthis are the tools that we have
when we're in those stickymoments.
So, if you find yourself, ifyou're listening to this podcast
and you're in this sticky place, know that first, you're not
alone You're not the only onethat this has happened.

(01:03:40):
This is the process, and ifit's happening, it's because
there's blessings coming.
There's so many good thingscoming.
You just have to keep doingthat inner work, and there's
many ways to do it.
Like I said, there's a plethoraof options, of ways to go
through your healing.
Just do it, yeah, just do it.
Don't.

(01:04:00):
Don't not do it.
Yes, do it.
Do it because it's going tohelp you.
Staying in the darkness,staying in the basement, is just
death and hey, if that's whatyou want to do, if you want to
die, we've got to honor that too.
Yeah, respect, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:04:15):
Free will.

Speaker 1 (01:04:16):
Yeah, if you believe that there is hope, there is
hope.
The three of us here are hope,so yes, oh thank you for being a
light on the path.

Speaker 2 (01:04:27):
There are many ways to the light and you are
absolutely one of the lights onthe path.

Speaker 1 (01:04:32):
Thank you it's an honor.
Thank you for hosting me inthis podcast.

Speaker 2 (01:04:37):
Dijana, she served, she always does.
She absolutely does she does.
One of the things I love abouther is she's such an epic
storyteller.
She was here over the weekendfor Huna and she got into some
stories we were jaw droppedwatching.
She barely scratched thesurface of what she's been

(01:05:01):
through and what she's gonethrough to be the person that
she is as a space holder, andshe's unbelievable.
Cannot recommend her enough.

Speaker 3 (01:05:10):
That was just such a beautiful and enlightening
conversation, and I feel sograteful that this texter wrote
in about this, because how oftenhave we been in these moments
where it's like the roaddiverges.
You're at the threshold, blah,blah, blah, blah, blah.
It's like do I, do I not?
And like the thing that reallymoved me the most was about I

(01:05:33):
chose to trust in the unknown.

Speaker 2 (01:05:35):
Yeah, that's where all the magic is.

Speaker 3 (01:05:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:05:38):
Everything that you want is in the unknown.
Yeah, that's where all themagic is.
Yeah, everything that you wantis in the unknown.

Speaker 3 (01:05:41):
Yes.

Speaker 2 (01:05:41):
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