June 7, 2022 • 36 mins
Wait, what?! Another engagement ring, another butt-kiss on a yacht. It’s a fresh start for Bennifer 2.0!
Pop icon Jennifer ‘J.Lo’ Lopez and Hollywood heartthrob Ben Affleck met and fell in love filming a rom-com in the wee years of the twenty-first century, and quickly became the most famous couple in the world. There was the infamous Jenny From the Block video, featuring the even more infamous butt kiss on a yacht and then...
It ended as swiftly as it began. The whirlwind romance whooshed off into distant memories, and the two stars rode respective rollercoasters in their new marriages and their careers. But in 2021, nearly two decades after they first met, rumours of a reunion started rumbling...
Can Ben Affleck one-up the serious moves he pulled off the first time he wooed J.Lo? Has nostalgia finally taken over the planet? And... is the second time the charm?
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hook Hitched and Hung Up acknowledges the traditional custodians of
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We pay our respect to their elders past and present
and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait
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(00:21):
This is Hook, Titched and Hung Up, where we take
you deep inside those famous love.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Stories that have shaped us. Like a phoenix rising from
the ashes. Has the prophecy of movie star Ben Affleck's
enormous back tattoo come true. He is back together with
his former fiance and pop icon Jennifer Lopez. Is this
a redemption story for the ages or a repeat of
the most sensational breakup of the two thousands waiting to happen?
Speaker 3 (00:45):
Hi?
Speaker 1 (00:46):
The way, they're engaged again and he's given her another
massive room.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Now, Ri, I am so excited to dive into this
relationship because it is a relationship that has spanned over
two decades. There's one that well in the early two thousands.
I feel like I was personally quite invested in this.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
Well, I think everyone's quite invested because it was a very,
very public but very sexy relationship.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
It was a very sexy relationship, wasn't it. But I
think that that's because Jenne val Opez has always been
I mean, she's always been pitched as an incredible sex symbol,
sex goddess.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
And she was without even trying, she was sexy, but
on top of without trying, she tried like she was
just a sex goddess.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
She was one of the first celebrities to pose completely
nude for an ad campaign, so she brought out her
own fragrance of perfume and there's this really sexy campaign
that came out, and she's like, I mean, obviously it's
quite demure in today's standards, it's like everything is covered,
but it's of the time. It was raunchy as and
I think that there was so much interest in them
(01:46):
as a couple because it was kind of thought that
they were a little bit of a mismatch. And we'll
get into why that is, and also why Ben Affleck
feels that this had a lot to do with race
more than it had to do with them as people.
To give you guys a bit of a background as
to who they are and where they slot in together.
I mean, of course, you all know Jennifer Lopez and
Ben Affleck. So Jennifer Lopez, she was a singer, she
(02:07):
was a dancer, she was a fashion icon, a trendsetter,
an actor and also a producer. Which is annoying how
many accolades she.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
Had, and I calmed down least some of the rest of.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
Us, where like, we don't even have time to list
off all the number of awards that she's won, but
it is literally hundreds. She was nominated for over two
hundred plus awards. And she grew up in the Bronx
aka Jenny from the Block.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
That got me through my teenage's I'm I'm still Jennifer
on the Black because I have a little Now I've
got two hundred wards.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
And that's also because we don't have rights to play
for music, so we're just going to sing everything throughout
this episode. Some of her massive hits on top of
Jenny from the Bloc were waiting for tonight, if you
had my Love and let's get loud. And Ben Affleck,
I mean, I feel like he has had the most
checked kind of career path. He's been so successful and
so I didn't realize how much he's also worked as
(02:58):
a producer and a director as well.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
I think the thing is I don't think he was
when you look at over the decades, he actually wasn't
that successful. He was very successful early on, but then
he went quiet for a long time. He had a
lot of flops. He didn't actually do a lot. Now
he's making his comeback. But I feel like, God, I
feel like our head we're like, oh yeah, he was
very successful. Oh, there were some low points over the years.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
He was the director for the movie Argo, which won
an Oscar for Best Picture. But he is also an
alcoholic and has spent quite a bit of time throughout
his years in rehab. He's had some extremely up and
down relationships and also some very very public relationships.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
He used to date Gwyneth Paltrow.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
He obviously went on to date Jennifer Garner and had
a couple kids with Jennifer Garner. But the relationship we
are unpacking today is what the hell happened with Jalo
back in two thousand and two.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
So he went from benefit to benefer hashtag benefit, hashtag
benefit now hashtag benefer. He's gone predic for Benfy, benefer
benefit cubed.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
But this is also one of the things right. So
in two thousand and two he was deemed as Who's
sexiest man alive? Like he was the abbsute top of
his game. But prior to that, he kind of describes
himself as this like tall, he had a bit of
a pot belly.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
He had a.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Cracked front tooth, which when he did the movie Pearl Harbor,
the directors of Pearl Harbor were like, we.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
Will pay to get that fixed.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
So he got his teeth fixed to do the movie
fair And he never really saw himself as being this huge,
sexy olpha male. He kind of was a bit more
of like the tortured artists that came in and out
of success. So we have to remember that Ben and
Jen were literally the hottest couple of this whole entire era.
And not only that were they the hottest couple, but
they were absolutely harassed by paparazzi. They were obsessed with
(04:37):
each other, but the paparazzi were also very very obsessed
with them. It was a time that was before social media,
but the Internet was on the rise and paparazzi photos
were a currency that was everywhere. So when Ben and
Jen realized that the peraps were absolutely obsessed with them.
They had to go to some pretty extreme lengths to
try and keep their wedding a secret. How's it going
(04:59):
with the catering sorted and the seating arrangements?
Speaker 1 (05:02):
Is that are locked in, locked and loaded? And the
decoy bride, she's been prepped. What about the second decoy
bride also prepped? And the decoy bride?
Speaker 2 (05:10):
Well there's three now this is benefit of course, there
are three decoy brides.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
Three decoy brides. I feel like that is a little
bit excessive. And I don't even know how these people
met yet.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
So they met on a very famous movie, but famous
for all the wrong reasons.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
I know the one. What is it? That giggly movie?
Speaker 2 (05:32):
Okay, someone knows how to say everyone, and I thought
it's it's giggly, right, I was like, oh, it's g
g giggly movie.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
Apparently it's pronounced glee.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
Gili is a rom com which they both start in,
except that it's not funny nor is it comical, so
it's kind of failed at all fronts.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
It's supposed to be this like funny crime mystery being
so bad, I remember, do you know what it's scored
on Rotten Tomatoes they give it a legitimate presentiment six
percent on Rotten. Tomatroows it had one point one star, like,
you better know whatever, that must be the lowest that.
I don't think I've ever heard of a six percent movie.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
You've got to remember that Ben Affleck at the time,
he was the youngest writer to ever win the Best
Original Screenplay Oscar for Goodwill Hunting along with Matt Damon.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
And the Oscar goes to Ben a Flack and math
I just said that Matt losing would suck and winning
would be really scary, and it's really really scary. That
was such a brilliant movie.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
And he'd also just gotten his teeth fixed because he
did Pearl Harbor.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
He was alive and well he was killing it.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
He was absolutely killing it, which is why he could
command a twelve point five million dollar paycheck to do
Jilly Yep Jiggli.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
You still got to deliver, though, just can't be like, OK, cool,
I won an award. Now I'm just gonna be in
all these flop movies.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
I guess it also just shows like, you know, you
can't just put two massive stars and expect it to
be an incredible movie.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
Well, in all honesty, and like, don't take it personally. Job,
I'm not going to be a j Low if she's listening.
I don't think she's a brilliant actress. I don't believe
Brittany Hagley. I don't believe he as an actress. To me,
she'll first and foremost be a performer in terms of
her singing and dancing. So I think for me, it
was always hard to see her in those movies, and
I think probably the level of floppiness of the movie
(07:17):
a lot of people feel the same. I think people
watch her and they're not convinced. It was a total
total disaster.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
Also, there was a lot of speculations around the reviews
that their chemistry sucked, which is kind of funny because
they ended up becoming actually together, but at the time
Jlo was married and she was married to Chris Judd.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
And just to give you guys.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
Because I think it's always been so it's been such
a point of speculation, the fact that Jennifer Lopez has
been engaged so many times, she's been married so many times.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
I know that the media really quite enjoys. To man,
I can't even get a boyfriend for longer than a
year how are these people pumping through engagements in husband?
Maybe that's Hollywood. I mean, I don't look like Jaylo.
I don't have the money of jaalaaither, so I guess
there's that. Don't cheat on yourself, Brittany, let's never punch
down on us. I'm not a genuine question like why
can I not do it? Okay?
Speaker 2 (08:03):
So just giving you giving you guys the background. So
at the time, she was married to Chris Judd, So
this is in two thousand and one to two thousand
and two, they were only married for a year and
at the back end of when the movie was being created,
that is when things started to get a little bit
close and comfortable between Ben and j Loo. Now they
have both absolutely denied that there was any crossover between
(08:23):
him and Chris.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
Judd, standard Hollywood behavior. She's said that she didn't cheat. However,
Chris Judd's dad came out and said that there was
definitely some overlaps. So I don't know who we're going
to believe here, Chris Jodd's dad or Ben and Jen.
I'm team Chris Judd's dad. And wait, wasn't Chris Judd
her second marriage?
Speaker 2 (08:39):
Who was the first guy or is that like irrelevant,
Not that it's irrelevant, but she was married to a
guy named a Johnny Noah in nineteen ninety seven.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
See when he's at home? Have you heard of him?
He was a waiter, He was just a normal guy.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
I love that I was married to a normal Cuban
waiter who spent one hundred thousand dollars on a wedding
ring or engagement ring for her. And I'd like to
know how does a normal waiter four one hundred thousand
dollar wedding ring.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
Direction she slipped him some money to buy it? Yeah,
I think absolutely so.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
Even though Ben and Jaylo Head on Heart refuse that
there was ever any overlap between their relationships, they're best friends, right.
They're being very public in their conversations around how they're
just such good friends. Never works, and they support each
other so much. I'm like getting some like smoking similarities
between Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
Married adults don't become best friends with the opposite sex
when they're filming with them all day without there being
some slippery sliding going on.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
So, because Jen and Ben are best friends, he wants
to show just how wonderful he thinks she is. And
if you wanted to prove to your best friend that
you thought that they were wonderful, if you wanted the
whole world to know how amazing your best friend is,
what would you do? What would be a normal thing?
Speaker 1 (09:43):
I mean these days, maybe put a post on Instagram. Well,
let's be real.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
Ben goes one step further than that. Ben buys a
full page in Variety to praise her after the film finishes.
Like buys an ad? Buys an ad? He buys a
full page ad? What to send a message to Jen?
Did he have to buy?
Speaker 1 (10:00):
Actually? That hook you? Mob? I reckon? You bought it?
What did the ad say? This is Variety magazine? Hi,
this is Ben Affleck. Sure it is no, Really, this
is Ben Affleck. I want to take on ad for
what are you writing?
Speaker 4 (10:16):
Done?
Speaker 1 (10:16):
A little script or something?
Speaker 2 (10:17):
No?
Speaker 1 (10:18):
I don't want to take out an ad for Jennifer Lopez.
You're trying to find j Lo. No, I just want
to send her a message. Oh okay, what do you
want it to say?
Speaker 3 (10:29):
You have shown great kindness, dedication, diligence, humility, graciousness of spirit,
beauty and courage, great empathy, astonishing talent, real poise and
true grace. It has been nothing but an honor and
a pleasure to work with you. I only wish I
were lucky enough to be in all your movies.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
Geez, she you're a girlfriend now or what? No? No, no, no?
Oh right, all right, I'm just busting your balls. How
do you want to sign it with love, respect, and gratitude?
Ben Affleck? Okay, make it a full page dude, What
the hell?
Speaker 4 (11:04):
Write a letter and send it to address Why do
you need to put a public ad out that says
your grace and humility?
Speaker 1 (11:11):
Isn't this crazy? So it's embarrassing. It is embarrassed. It's
too much. Yeah, but this is weird because they're not
even in a relationship yet. She's married, this is not
for long. But well, evidently he paid a lot for
that at and he ensured there was a divorce coming.
And I think I sort of read some things about
this about how strange it was that he put this
ad out and the public was sort of like, why
(11:33):
would you do this? Now he says it's just because
he had such a close relationship with her, and that
the public were always writing j Loo's back. They always
said she was such a diva and she was hard
to work with, and I guess he had these feelings
deep down for her and he wanted to try and
change the public's perception. So I'm taking the piss a
little bit, being like, why would you take an ad out?
But when I read that, I sort of understand that
(11:55):
he obviously was developing feelings, was a bit protective of her,
and he wanted the world to see what he saw.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
Yeah, but imagine if you were Chris jard You imagine
if you were Jalo's husband and he's like, it's just
my best friend, and I get like, there's one on
one hand when you're writing like a nice like, Hey,
thanks so much, it's been wonderful working together. I love
your professionalism, Like there's different words that you would use
to describe somebody in a work capacity.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
Mate, this is a hr disaster right here. And I
only wish I were lucky enough to be in all
your movies. Yeah, well, the durance know the directors are
saying no, thank you because you are one big flop. Now.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
One of the things that's interesting about this, and that
there has been lots of speculation, is that Jlo is
a bit of a monkey Brancher. When it comes to relationships.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
We all know those people, don't we.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
Laura burn I feel personally victimized pretty huckly. But she
certainly has one door closing as the other one opens,
and that was very much the case in this relationship.
So Jalo and Ben are seen kissing in public, and
then it isn't until a couple of months later that
she actually files for divorce with Chris Judd. So as
far as public perception is aware, she's still married to
(12:59):
Chris Judd.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
I guess we're never going to know, though, And you
would like to think that if they were publicly, if
they were happy enough to be publicly be seen that
privately it's been called off. And I guess there is
a level that we need to understand that they're not
going to share every single thing. So maybe let's let's
give it the benefit of doubt. That benefit, get it?
(13:22):
How long have you been sitting on that? Actually that
one just rolled out. Let's give them the benefit of
the doubt and say that they had split.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
Okay, I mean, we'll never know because Jlo seems to
have very very hard and fast relationships, which is why
she's had six engagements and three marriages so far, and
I mean, I'm not shaming the woman, all the power
to her. And also think it just goes to show
that she was one hundred percent the most wanted woman
in Hollywood at that point in time. Their relationship transpired
so quickly. Within six months, Ben had proposed to Jlo
(13:53):
and her divorce to Chris Judd wasn't even finalized yet,
so she was already engaged before actually being divorced.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
I steel technically married. I mean, go for example, they
live your best life. So it's literally been six months.
In November of two thousand and two, that is when
they publicly announced their engagement, and also when she starts
rocking around in the infamous six carrot pink diamond ring.
I remember that pink engagement ring. But what would that
That had to have been millions, it was two point
(14:20):
five million.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
It's insane at this point on her finger. I just
imagine walking around with that level of liability. I wouldn't
That's the thing. I wouldn't wear it because someone would
steal it from you. But when you were at their
level of success, I think it's like chomp changed. Do
you mean like they were earning so much money per
movie or per music video, and it was just like
like two point five million dollars inconsequential.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
I remember the ring well, but what I remember more
is the film quick that came out on the yacht.
They just announced their engagement. People didn't even really know yet.
And then there's that really famous scene of her big, beautiful,
glorious booty and he kissed it and tapped it with
his hand, tapped her button. That is what I remember
of their relationship. It's like the number one thing. But
don't you think it's so interesting? So this is Jenny
(15:05):
from the Block, right, I do want to think of
it for us, I'm still Jenny Frown the Black you
used to have.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
A little The Jenny from the Block video caused so
much controversy because people not a little controversy.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
People just wanted that insight. They wanted the voyeurism.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
And it was supposed to be satire, like it was
supposed to be making fun of the fact that the
paparazzi were always chasing them, but it almost did the
opposite in that it gave people even more access to
their relationship. And Ben Affleck came out and he said
he said that he did Jenny from the Block, but
he complained that everybody missed the point. The reason I
did the video was a commentary on the crazy tabloid
(15:41):
paparazzi attention, but it was covered without any irony whatsoever.
We were trying to say, look at how silly this
all is, while at the same time have fun and
be a bit sexy.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
But then went on to say that it was one
of the message you in their bench. We wanted to
be satire but serious, but we also wanted them to
know that not to take us seriously, not to chase us, but.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
We also wanted to be sexy, to be sexy as well,
and to create some really stimulating conversation.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
Around the political world.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
He went on to say as well that that was
the biggest regret from their relationship, that he felt like
all that did was inspire and incite even more insight
into their relationship.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
Well, I think this is why we became so obsessed
with him, because we wanted more. We got a very
public look at a very private moment what should be
private between two people, and we became obsessed with it.
(16:36):
This is hooked, hitched and hung up, and we're doing
a deep dive into the ultimate one who got away
and then got back together story Ben Affleck and Jennifer Lopez,
and it's a good AKA benefit.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
So everybody's obsessed. But at the time Ben didn't get it.
And I'm pretty interested in this because there's been some
conflicting messaging and some conflicting quotes that have come out
of Ben. But he says, I can promise you that
our life together doesn't warrant it. We watch movies, we
sit at home, we go out to dinner. It's more
or less what everyone else does. There is a wall
(17:08):
looming in the Middle East, Europe is redefining itself, America
is in a recession. Sure, we're getting married, but I
just can't understand why this isn't a page twenty item
because of the degree to which it's been discussed. It
has to have to do with something bigger and deeper
than just two actors who are romantically involved, because how
interesting is that really?
Speaker 1 (17:27):
That has a shelf life of about two weeks.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
I think it has to do with race and class,
the fact that I'm white and she's Puerto Rican. That's
what's underneath, although nobody said it because it's not politically correct.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
Yeah, I think there's something to be said for that.
I think back then that was probably there's a level
of shock there that there was an interracial couple. Maybe
it wasn't as popular back then and we didn't have
as much access to it as we did. So if
he feels that enough to comment, who are we to
say that he's incorrect. That's obviously the impression that he's
getting and he's the one in the relationship.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
There is another quote that comes from a Vanity Fair
article which he did, which was like a full expose
and very in depth around not just his relationship with
j Lo, but his own personal life. And he talked
about the amount of money that they make as a couple,
and he said, it's the price of my privacy, the
price of my life. It has to do with international exposure.
It's somebody who can get in the papers, be on television,
(18:20):
and draw attention to the movies. So he's talking about
why he gets paid such huge dollars to be in movies.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
He says, you have to become a whole. Nobody's paying
anybody money out of the goodness of their own heart.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
What is it worth to haul your private life? And
have every aspect of it totally exposed. When you consider that,
I feel like I'm underpaid. So he knows the benefits
of exposing his personal life. Both of them are very savvy.
They understand that by doing that they're increasing their own profiles.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
Yeah, and this is still early days for them to
an extent. They know they want to be really famous.
They're at that point where they don't know the price
of being so public yet, which they learn very soon,
very quickly. But at this point they want to be
everywhere they want to be. Even if they don't understand it,
they know that that's what sells, that's what's going to
get them in the next movie. They're not silly.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
And what better way to get a year's worth of
free publicity, you know, than to marry your a listic
costar and throw a huge wedding for your family, your friends,
and all of your closest paparazzi within one hundred miles.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
Probably unintentional, but hey, they were there.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
So it seems like all the pressure of organizing a
wedding and having three decoy brides really got to Ben
and Jen and they released a public statement, but basically
just to summarize it, it was that the wedding itself
had lost meaning to them in that what they wanted
it to be, like a special romantic moment to share
with their family and their friends, was no longer going
(19:37):
to be that. When they got to the point where
they had to hire the third decoy bride.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
That's really sad. Imagine, Like I guess it became a
bit like a business transaction in the end, and.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
They couldn't leave the house. They're getting swamped by paparazzi
wherever they left, Like, whatever they did together as a couple,
you would know one hundred percent it was going to
be the front page of a magazine. So they got
together in two thousand and two, but by two thousand
and four, the relationship was now own over. So let
me get this straight.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
They canceled the wedding, and then what it's just done
on the spot, Well, it wasn't just done.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
So basically they postponed the wedding in September of two
thousand and three, and they said at the time that
the media attention that was all the speculation around the
wedding was too much and it was too overwhelming. However,
it did also very much coincide at the same time
that all the shitty reviews came out for Jiggly or
Glee or whatever the hell we want to call it.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
It's typically not Jiggly, but that's what we'll call it.
It was just like the movie was so poorly received.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
Not only was it poorly received, but there were so
many critics saying that they had absolutely no chemistry on screen.
Can you imagine having like your relationship on screen and
everybody saying that.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
You would terrible actors together? It would be horrible, but
obsolutely horrible, even just to get terrible active even if
you weren't in a relationship on screen. It's like, no
wants that.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
So by January two thousand and four, they had then
announced that they had officially ended their engagement and they
both had parted ways.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
It's actually really sad because I feel like it just
happened really fast, and they it's almost like they weren't
given a chance. But I wonder if they actually knew
it was over when they postponed the wedding, or do
you think that they were actually going to try and
give it a crack and revisit the wedding.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
I mean there's speculation about it, but I think at
the time, if you're going to postpone your wedding and
then very shortly afterwards actually announced that you've broken up,
you're not just postponing the wedding because the media attention's
too heavy. You're postponing the wedding because maybe the relationship is.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
On the rocks. You got some cracks for sure. Yeah,
and so I guess this is where benefit into stage left.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
Well, this is where benefit turns into a whole new benefit.
He just literally takes out this one Jennifer and pops in.
Speaker 1 (21:38):
A new Jennifer hashtag Benefit two point zero.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
Ben goes on to get married to Jennifer Garner very
shortly afterwards. Literally only a year later was he engaged
to Jennifer Garner. And within six months of Jlo and
Ben Affleck breaking up, June two thousand and four is
when Jlo actually gets married to Mark Anthony.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
So not engaged, getting married within six months after losing
the love of her life, She's married. And you've got
to remember that she was also engaged to Ben Affleck
before her divorce to Chris Judd was finalized. Either the
chick loves to be married. I'm calling it Jlo's needy.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
She is Is she needed to be in relationships or
is she just that wanted?
Speaker 1 (22:20):
Like I think about think about it, because this is her.
She's choosing to marry these people. You could date someone
for sure, but she's marrying, divorcing, splitting, engaged, splitting married totally.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
But she has to get proposed to like these men
are so willing to like, like, I've never had a
guy proposed to me within six months?
Speaker 4 (22:36):
Have you?
Speaker 1 (22:37):
I mean, you weren't that far off? I think you
know the answer for me, I was pregnant within a year.
Actually I take that back exactly, but I think I mean,
at the end of the day, she obviously likes relationships.
Who are we to judge good on her? And then
she and she ended up being with him for a
long time. Mark Anthony. Hey, she had twins and I
remember she had little she's they're beautiful now they're older now.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
Yeah, they have two kids together. But she always did
speak so fondly about Ben Affleck. She spoke about him
even like whilst they were married, her and Mark Anthony
were married, she would refer to Ben Affleck as her
first true love.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
So moving on.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
Over a decade, both Ben and Jlo have been in
completely different relationships. They've been married, They've had children, they
have lived separate lives, and have created families both separately,
and have also spoken about their partners with such love
and affection. I think like when you look at videos
between Ben Affleck and Jennifer Ghana, he seems and comes
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across as the most wonderfully doting father and husband at
the time. And also jay Loo seems so incredibly invested
in her relationship with Mark Anthony.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
It's stable.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
They've got a beautiful family together. However, as we know,
things weren't exactly as they seem, and in twenty fifteen,
Ben and Jennifer Gana announced their divorce.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
Ah, so that's where all these sad Ben memes came from.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
Poor little sad Ben Affleck with his big phoenix tattoo.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
You remember when that all happened, when you were like,
I don't. I remember seeing a photo of him one
day on the beach with no shirt on it, and
I was like, what is on his wa is he doing?
Why did he do that shit tag? I was like,
did that man rolling ash?
Speaker 2 (24:08):
I couldn't really see, Okay, but also this all came
and the sad Ben memes came from a very famous
interview that he did when he was promoting Batman versus
Superman and he was sitting there just staring off into
the abyss. He the astral Plane for a moment in
Phoenix Plane.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
He checked out. Life was too much for him and
he was I mean, he came out later he was
he was really sad. He was really depressed and at
a really low point of his life.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
Well, there was also photos of him that came out
where he was like carrying like a horde of Duncan donuts.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
There was another one of him sitting and not be
hating on him for the Dunkin donuts. We've all been there,
we've all been there. But there was another one who's
sitting in his car like vaping. And the paparazzi shots
that came out and around the twenty sixteen mark when
things were really going bad for him. This is like
after his divorce with Jennifer Garner, and it was like
the wheels were well and truly falling off the bandwagon.
I mean, I'm going to relate to him little bit.
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I've gone through a break up the last couple of months,
and you're seen vaping in your car. Hey, pretty Hockley
sad vaping in a car.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
But you know what one thing you haven't done, Brett
in the throes of a bad breakup. You haven't gotten
a full back tattoo.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
You haven't seen my back lately.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
All right, So I'm sure that you guys have all
seen this photo of Ben. Now he's standing there at
the beach, looking out forlorn into the ocean, mindful, a
little bit sad thinking. But this is the first time
that we have seen a glimpse of whatever it is
that he's done to his back. There is a phoenix
that is creeping up literally from his butt crack all
the way up and across his right shoulder.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
Okay, why.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
When the external world crumbles around you, the only solution is.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
To go inward, fine solace, get to know yourself, find peace,
and get a back tattoo. Have you seen Madam is disgusting.
It's so ugly. He's the haudliest tattoo. Go through a
midlife class. It's okay, we'll get that like cute little
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love heart tattoo on your little pinky. You know, I
broon't gets something like that, like a broken heart or something,
but like it was so ugly actually that the first
time there was a pap barazzi photo, everyone started around
the world. So I had to write him off about it,
and he was so embarrassed. He was like he pretended
it was fake. He's like, oh, I've got it for
a movie. It's just like drawn on. But then years
went past, it was still there. It was like, bro like,
just admit it. This is this is real.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
There's actually this great quote of his where he said, yes,
he's he's like, in some aspects, my life went to shit,
which is why I got a phoenix rising out of
my arm.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
Well played, Ben, well played? But keep that shirt off? Well.
Isn't it interesting? Though? Because Jaylo announced her divorce from
Mark Anthony in twenty eleven, So I am wondering if
our friend Ben took a little bit of inspiration and
was like, oh, the love of my life is back
on the market, maybe I should do the same.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
No, do you reckon that they spent it there? I
don't think they would have spent all this time pining together.
I just think that maybe there was like.
Speaker 1 (26:56):
Well she said he was the love of her life,
So the first love of her life, but maybe that
there was like it was do you think it was
more opportunistic than what it was deliberate? Look, I'm just
throwing a question out mate.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
After well, you would think that maybe at this point
in time they were getting back together, but it wasn't.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
Absolutely wasn't the case.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
So this is still in twenty fifteen, and during this time,
Jaylo then goes on to get into a relationship with
Standard with shock horror, I know, right, like she is
in relationships way more than what she's single, but also
like it's like she's literally not single. I don't know,
like these guys have to slide into her dms within
a week of her being single because she snapped up already. Well,
(27:35):
I think that's what happened. I think a rod her
next love slid into a dam mate. It's just the
modern day love story, isn't it. And it is a
modern day love story because apparently he cheated on and
there were lots of speculation around that and they were
supposed to be getting married. There was an engagement there
and shit really hit the fan. Okay, well, how much
was that engagementy? I think five million.
Speaker 1 (27:54):
What'sn't really? Yeah, So she's she's going up in the world.
She's moving up in the world with every engagement with
the rings.
Speaker 2 (27:59):
They started off at a one hundred thousand dollars with
her very first fiance slash husband, which was a Johnny
Noah and Noah even knows about whoho that guy is.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
Did you just make shramming a pun? Yes? I did.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
And then there was another one hundred thousand dollars which
came from Chris Judd, which was her second husband, and
then it really skyrocketed. It went to two point five million,
which came from Ben Affleck. Then it went to four
million from Marc Anthony so a Rod who was the
fifth guy that she was engaged to. Somehow, it's been
reported that the ring that he purchased is anywhere between
one million and five million. Now that is a very
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big discrepancy, and maybe that's why the relationship didn't work out.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
Well, I'm gonna guess is probably not the five million mark,
which she probably would have married him, was probably less
sick maybe. So obviously we're going to talk about how
Ben and Jen get back together in a hot second,
But first I want to talk about this big fuck
off ring that she is wearing on a finger that
Ben gave her.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
So the second ring, the second No, this is the
second ring, which I think is bigger than the first one.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
We'll buy from you know, my my eye, it looks
bigger than the first one.
Speaker 2 (28:59):
So this ring is a ten million dollar really ugly
green diamond.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
Apparently it's really rare. But you know what they say,
money color by taste. Hang on, you just skipped past
to something that I'm picking my drop off the ground.
Ten million dollars, Takailston powers. She's walking around with a
ten million dollar ring on her finger. Well, it's like.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
Every single engagement has gone up incrementally, so it had
to get bigger and bigger and bigger.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
This is sort of borderline, like I'm tempted to rob her.
I'm trying to formulate a plan.
Speaker 4 (29:28):
I will take you down, Jaylo. I'm Brittany from the
block as well. Actually, where the hell is she wears
the perhaps I'm going.
Speaker 1 (29:42):
Now she's left a rod. When does she get back
together in her very public loving relationship now with Ben
Affleck for the second time? So what was the period there?
Speaker 2 (29:51):
So they broke up in twenty twenty one, and in
twenty twenty one, Ben Affleck slides into the DMS of Jlo.
Being that they're both single, he really takes like an
old Shakespeare approach and starts sending her emails.
Speaker 1 (30:04):
At least he didn't take a full page dad out
this time. At least he's learned something so like fits
some privacy.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
But yeah, so he starts sending her emails and that's
how they keep in contact over the space of a
couple of months.
Speaker 1 (30:14):
And then the details around.
Speaker 2 (30:16):
When they actually started dating are pretty unclear. But it
isn't until July twenty twenty one that they take their
relationship that's probably been going on for a couple of
months in private.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
They make it very public.
Speaker 2 (30:27):
Jen posts a carousel to Instagram and it's like all
these beautiful photos of herself on a yacht enjoying her
fifty second birthday, and then the last photo in the
carousel reel is a photo of Jen and Ben kissing,
and it blows the Internet up iconic.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
Have you seen it? Yeah, I've seen it. I've I've
seen it. Hello took before research, No, I just took
the world by storm. I remember thinking they weren't actually
back together. I remember thinking, cute, they're having a fling.
I didn't think that they were going to be like
this whole other relationship again round two. Well, and they've been.
They've been caught out.
Speaker 2 (30:59):
Like it's not like this was the first time that
anybody had seen them together. They had been pat photos,
they had been caught out meeting up in La and
their commentary towards media was that they were just good
friends catching up. But now it was like that was official.
And I love the way that they did it in
this like very bread crumbing way. So it was like
several posts and then it was the last photo of
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a carousel.
Speaker 1 (31:19):
Real you know, she just wants to check that people
sliding through her whole carousel.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
Yeah, she needs the engagement, like go through all of them.
Then please leave a comment, thanks very much, like swipe
believe a fire emoji.
Speaker 1 (31:29):
I mean, this is what I'm thinking right now. You'd
think that they would have learnt from their past, like
they complained they called off their first wedding because there
was too much public attention. There was too much scrutiny,
too many people chasing them and turn into a business transaction.
Fast forward twenty years and you're doing the same thing.
You've just put it back on Instagram and made it public. Okay.
Speaker 2 (31:48):
But the question is, and to their defense, if they
didn't make it public in some way, would that mean
that the public, like the scrutiny of the paparazzi, would
be even greater because they'd be chasing them trying to
get at the photo. Because you know what it's like now,
like if you say, yeah, yes this happened, the media
goes crazy for two weeks and then it kind of
goes away. So do you think that maybe they were
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already being followed. There was already so much speculation that
they were together, that they were like, okay, let's just
like drop the bomb and get on with our lives.
Speaker 1 (32:16):
Yeah, but they're not dumb. There is no drop it
and get on with their lives. Like this is it now.
They have to know that once it's out, they'll be
harassed for eternity.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
And I do think it's so I mean, this is
what I mean by it's like the irony of Ben
Affleck and j Lo. They have lived the life two
decades ago they got the opportunity of being together and
this is like the crazy, amazing redemption story. This whole
idea of like that maybe she's the one that got
away and they got a second chance at this relationship
and they get a second chance to do it differently.
Speaker 1 (32:45):
Well, maybe this is really pushing the narrative that there
can be the right people at the wrong time. And
I mean, like, I'm always on the fence about that.
I've always been like, oh, if it's the wrong time,
is it just the wrong person. But they've come full circle.
It's been twenty years. We don't know. Look, we don't
know if they're going to live happily ever after. We're
never gonna be able to know that. But they have
come back. They've moved in together recently, they've just moved
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into like a ridiculously big mansion. It's looking like they're
finally found them happy ever after. But I'll be interested
to see what happens and if they do split, who
she's going to marry in six months time.
Speaker 2 (33:19):
You would think that with everything that they had learned
from their first relationship, all the mistakes that they'd made,
that maybe they would do things differently the second time around,
you know, twenty years later, And it's something that we've
talked about in life on cut before. It's like, if
you're going to give your relationship, like an ex relationship,
a second chance, things have to be fundamentally different for
them to end up being happy together. If you're revisiting
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a relationship this second time around, I hope to god
you've taken something from the first time because it didn't work.
Speaker 1 (33:45):
Well.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
They do say when you know better, you do better,
but not if you're Jen and Ben. So you know
how the first time he starred in the Jenny from
the Block movie or film clip, whatever you want to
call it, and he was slapping her on the bart
and then he said that he opened up his relationship
too much. It was the worst mistake he'd made in
his relationship. Well, he's just recently starred in her new
film Clear, which is called Marry Me, for the movie
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that she's doing, which is also called Marry Me.
Speaker 1 (34:09):
But is this history repeating itself.
Speaker 2 (34:11):
I'm gonna say yes, because they're literally pimping out their
relationship for their work again.
Speaker 1 (34:16):
I just think these people are so obsessed with notoriety
and love and attention that they don't know how to
live without it. And I think that they think they
don't want it, and they try and become recluse and
going to hiding for a hot second, and they miss
it and then boom back in another film Clep.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
I feel like there's this real, like school, like high
school excitement about their relationship, like the fact that they've
like been able to fall in love again a second
time around. There must be this incredible validation that comes
with being able to tell the world and being able
to be like, see, we proved you all wrong. We're
back together. It's just like they're walking down the same
road that they've done before.
Speaker 1 (34:50):
Yeah, and maybe the fact that they're a bit older now,
they've lived a life, they're in their fifties. Maybe they
feel like the media storm isn't going to be the same.
Maybe they think everyone's gonna be happy for us and
then move on because there's all these the young hot
guns that are driving all the attention, and we can
only hope that that's the case. They have had a
lot of attention up until now. Maybe they're actually not
getting enough attention and that's why they're putting out the
film clip. Maybe they're like, well, why is everyone peering off?
Speaker 2 (35:12):
They're like, I'm sorry, we were used to getting a
lot more than this last time, I need to tap
some assa or well, there was actually a photo of him,
they've been papped on a boat and he was like
kissing j Lo's beautiful bass and it was like they
were recreating that moment from Jenny from the Block.
Speaker 1 (35:27):
Absolutely and they did they a one hundred percent you
what they were.
Speaker 2 (35:29):
Doing that is you And you know you know when
you're on a yacht that there's a paparazzi down there
taking photos of yourself.
Speaker 1 (35:34):
Yeah, you're in the exact same position of the first
photo that went viral, Like the first that exact moment.
They've recreated it. They knew what it was going to do.
They love the attention, but you know what, good luck
to them. I hope that she's finally found anyone.
Speaker 2 (35:48):
And that is there from Jennifer Lopez and Ben Affleck.
Done and dusted. You are welcome and who knows what
will happen next with this redemption story for the ones
who got away.
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This is Hook, Titched and Hung Up, where we take
you deep inside those famous love.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Stories that have shaped us. Like a phoenix rising from
the ashes. Has the prophecy of movie star Ben Affleck's
enormous back tattoo come true. He is back together with
his former fiance and pop icon Jennifer Lopez. Is this
a redemption story for the ages or a repeat of
the most sensational breakup of the two thousands waiting to happen?
Speaker 3 (00:45):
Hi?
Speaker 1 (00:46):
The way, they're engaged again and he's given her another
massive room.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Now, Ri, I am so excited to dive into this
relationship because it is a relationship that has spanned over
two decades. There's one that well in the early two thousands.
I feel like I was personally quite invested in this.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
Well, I think everyone's quite invested because it was a very,
very public but very sexy relationship.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
It was a very sexy relationship, wasn't it. But I
think that that's because Jenne val Opez has always been
I mean, she's always been pitched as an incredible sex symbol,
sex goddess.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
And she was without even trying, she was sexy, but
on top of without trying, she tried like she was
just a sex goddess.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
She was one of the first celebrities to pose completely
nude for an ad campaign, so she brought out her
own fragrance of perfume and there's this really sexy campaign
that came out, and she's like, I mean, obviously it's
quite demure in today's standards, it's like everything is covered,
but it's of the time. It was raunchy as and
I think that there was so much interest in them
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as a couple because it was kind of thought that
they were a little bit of a mismatch. And we'll
get into why that is, and also why Ben Affleck
feels that this had a lot to do with race
more than it had to do with them as people.
To give you guys a bit of a background as
to who they are and where they slot in together.
I mean, of course, you all know Jennifer Lopez and
Ben Affleck. So Jennifer Lopez, she was a singer, she
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was a dancer, she was a fashion icon, a trendsetter,
an actor and also a producer. Which is annoying how
many accolades she.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
Had, and I calmed down least some of the rest of.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
Us, where like, we don't even have time to list
off all the number of awards that she's won, but
it is literally hundreds. She was nominated for over two
hundred plus awards. And she grew up in the Bronx
aka Jenny from the Block.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
That got me through my teenage's I'm I'm still Jennifer
on the Black because I have a little Now I've
got two hundred wards.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
And that's also because we don't have rights to play
for music, so we're just going to sing everything throughout
this episode. Some of her massive hits on top of
Jenny from the Bloc were waiting for tonight, if you
had my Love and let's get loud. And Ben Affleck,
I mean, I feel like he has had the most
checked kind of career path. He's been so successful and
so I didn't realize how much he's also worked as
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a producer and a director as well.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
I think the thing is I don't think he was
when you look at over the decades, he actually wasn't
that successful. He was very successful early on, but then
he went quiet for a long time. He had a
lot of flops. He didn't actually do a lot. Now
he's making his comeback. But I feel like, God, I
feel like our head we're like, oh yeah, he was
very successful. Oh, there were some low points over the years.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
He was the director for the movie Argo, which won
an Oscar for Best Picture. But he is also an
alcoholic and has spent quite a bit of time throughout
his years in rehab. He's had some extremely up and
down relationships and also some very very public relationships.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
He used to date Gwyneth Paltrow.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
He obviously went on to date Jennifer Garner and had
a couple kids with Jennifer Garner. But the relationship we
are unpacking today is what the hell happened with Jalo
back in two thousand and two.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
So he went from benefit to benefer hashtag benefit, hashtag
benefit now hashtag benefer. He's gone predic for Benfy, benefer
benefit cubed.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
But this is also one of the things right. So
in two thousand and two he was deemed as Who's
sexiest man alive? Like he was the abbsute top of
his game. But prior to that, he kind of describes
himself as this like tall, he had a bit of
a pot belly.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
He had a.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Cracked front tooth, which when he did the movie Pearl Harbor,
the directors of Pearl Harbor were like, we.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
Will pay to get that fixed.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
So he got his teeth fixed to do the movie
fair And he never really saw himself as being this huge,
sexy olpha male. He kind of was a bit more
of like the tortured artists that came in and out
of success. So we have to remember that Ben and
Jen were literally the hottest couple of this whole entire era.
And not only that were they the hottest couple, but
they were absolutely harassed by paparazzi. They were obsessed with
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each other, but the paparazzi were also very very obsessed
with them. It was a time that was before social media,
but the Internet was on the rise and paparazzi photos
were a currency that was everywhere. So when Ben and
Jen realized that the peraps were absolutely obsessed with them.
They had to go to some pretty extreme lengths to
try and keep their wedding a secret. How's it going
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with the catering sorted and the seating arrangements?
Speaker 1 (05:02):
Is that are locked in, locked and loaded? And the
decoy bride, she's been prepped. What about the second decoy
bride also prepped? And the decoy bride?
Speaker 2 (05:10):
Well there's three now this is benefit of course, there
are three decoy brides.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
Three decoy brides. I feel like that is a little
bit excessive. And I don't even know how these people
met yet.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
So they met on a very famous movie, but famous
for all the wrong reasons.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
I know the one. What is it? That giggly movie?
Speaker 2 (05:32):
Okay, someone knows how to say everyone, and I thought
it's it's giggly, right, I was like, oh, it's g
g giggly movie.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
Apparently it's pronounced glee.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
Gili is a rom com which they both start in,
except that it's not funny nor is it comical, so
it's kind of failed at all fronts.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
It's supposed to be this like funny crime mystery being
so bad, I remember, do you know what it's scored
on Rotten Tomatoes they give it a legitimate presentiment six
percent on Rotten. Tomatroows it had one point one star, like,
you better know whatever, that must be the lowest that.
I don't think I've ever heard of a six percent movie.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
You've got to remember that Ben Affleck at the time,
he was the youngest writer to ever win the Best
Original Screenplay Oscar for Goodwill Hunting along with Matt Damon.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
And the Oscar goes to Ben a Flack and math
I just said that Matt losing would suck and winning
would be really scary, and it's really really scary. That
was such a brilliant movie.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
And he'd also just gotten his teeth fixed because he
did Pearl Harbor.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
He was alive and well he was killing it.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
He was absolutely killing it, which is why he could
command a twelve point five million dollar paycheck to do
Jilly Yep Jiggli.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
You still got to deliver, though, just can't be like, OK, cool,
I won an award. Now I'm just gonna be in
all these flop movies.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
I guess it also just shows like, you know, you
can't just put two massive stars and expect it to
be an incredible movie.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
Well, in all honesty, and like, don't take it personally. Job,
I'm not going to be a j Low if she's listening.
I don't think she's a brilliant actress. I don't believe
Brittany Hagley. I don't believe he as an actress. To me,
she'll first and foremost be a performer in terms of
her singing and dancing. So I think for me, it
was always hard to see her in those movies, and
I think probably the level of floppiness of the movie
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a lot of people feel the same. I think people
watch her and they're not convinced. It was a total
total disaster.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
Also, there was a lot of speculations around the reviews
that their chemistry sucked, which is kind of funny because
they ended up becoming actually together, but at the time
Jlo was married and she was married to Chris Judd.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
And just to give you guys.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
Because I think it's always been so it's been such
a point of speculation, the fact that Jennifer Lopez has
been engaged so many times, she's been married so many times.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
I know that the media really quite enjoys. To man,
I can't even get a boyfriend for longer than a
year how are these people pumping through engagements in husband?
Maybe that's Hollywood. I mean, I don't look like Jaylo.
I don't have the money of jaalaaither, so I guess
there's that. Don't cheat on yourself, Brittany, let's never punch
down on us. I'm not a genuine question like why
can I not do it? Okay?
Speaker 2 (08:03):
So just giving you giving you guys the background. So
at the time, she was married to Chris Judd, So
this is in two thousand and one to two thousand
and two, they were only married for a year and
at the back end of when the movie was being created,
that is when things started to get a little bit
close and comfortable between Ben and j Loo. Now they
have both absolutely denied that there was any crossover between
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him and Chris.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
Judd, standard Hollywood behavior. She's said that she didn't cheat. However,
Chris Judd's dad came out and said that there was
definitely some overlaps. So I don't know who we're going
to believe here, Chris Jodd's dad or Ben and Jen.
I'm team Chris Judd's dad. And wait, wasn't Chris Judd
her second marriage?
Speaker 2 (08:39):
Who was the first guy or is that like irrelevant,
Not that it's irrelevant, but she was married to a
guy named a Johnny Noah in nineteen ninety seven.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
See when he's at home? Have you heard of him?
He was a waiter, He was just a normal guy.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
I love that I was married to a normal Cuban
waiter who spent one hundred thousand dollars on a wedding
ring or engagement ring for her. And I'd like to
know how does a normal waiter four one hundred thousand
dollar wedding ring.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
Direction she slipped him some money to buy it? Yeah,
I think absolutely so.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
Even though Ben and Jaylo Head on Heart refuse that
there was ever any overlap between their relationships, they're best friends, right.
They're being very public in their conversations around how they're
just such good friends. Never works, and they support each
other so much. I'm like getting some like smoking similarities
between Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
Married adults don't become best friends with the opposite sex
when they're filming with them all day without there being
some slippery sliding going on.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
So, because Jen and Ben are best friends, he wants
to show just how wonderful he thinks she is. And
if you wanted to prove to your best friend that
you thought that they were wonderful, if you wanted the
whole world to know how amazing your best friend is,
what would you do? What would be a normal thing?
Speaker 1 (09:43):
I mean these days, maybe put a post on Instagram. Well,
let's be real.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
Ben goes one step further than that. Ben buys a
full page in Variety to praise her after the film finishes.
Like buys an ad? Buys an ad? He buys a
full page ad? What to send a message to Jen?
Did he have to buy?
Speaker 1 (10:00):
Actually? That hook you? Mob? I reckon? You bought it?
What did the ad say? This is Variety magazine? Hi,
this is Ben Affleck. Sure it is no, Really, this
is Ben Affleck. I want to take on ad for
what are you writing?
Speaker 4 (10:16):
Done?
Speaker 1 (10:16):
A little script or something?
Speaker 2 (10:17):
No?
Speaker 1 (10:18):
I don't want to take out an ad for Jennifer Lopez.
You're trying to find j Lo. No, I just want
to send her a message. Oh okay, what do you
want it to say?
Speaker 3 (10:29):
You have shown great kindness, dedication, diligence, humility, graciousness of spirit,
beauty and courage, great empathy, astonishing talent, real poise and
true grace. It has been nothing but an honor and
a pleasure to work with you. I only wish I
were lucky enough to be in all your movies.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
Geez, she you're a girlfriend now or what? No? No, no, no?
Oh right, all right, I'm just busting your balls. How
do you want to sign it with love, respect, and gratitude?
Ben Affleck? Okay, make it a full page dude, What
the hell?
Speaker 4 (11:04):
Write a letter and send it to address Why do
you need to put a public ad out that says
your grace and humility?
Speaker 1 (11:11):
Isn't this crazy? So it's embarrassing. It is embarrassed. It's
too much. Yeah, but this is weird because they're not
even in a relationship yet. She's married, this is not
for long. But well, evidently he paid a lot for
that at and he ensured there was a divorce coming.
And I think I sort of read some things about
this about how strange it was that he put this
ad out and the public was sort of like, why
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would you do this? Now he says it's just because
he had such a close relationship with her, and that
the public were always writing j Loo's back. They always
said she was such a diva and she was hard
to work with, and I guess he had these feelings
deep down for her and he wanted to try and
change the public's perception. So I'm taking the piss a
little bit, being like, why would you take an ad out?
But when I read that, I sort of understand that
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he obviously was developing feelings, was a bit protective of her,
and he wanted the world to see what he saw.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
Yeah, but imagine if you were Chris jard You imagine
if you were Jalo's husband and he's like, it's just
my best friend, and I get like, there's one on
one hand when you're writing like a nice like, Hey,
thanks so much, it's been wonderful working together. I love
your professionalism, Like there's different words that you would use
to describe somebody in a work capacity.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
Mate, this is a hr disaster right here. And I
only wish I were lucky enough to be in all
your movies. Yeah, well, the durance know the directors are
saying no, thank you because you are one big flop. Now.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
One of the things that's interesting about this, and that
there has been lots of speculation, is that Jlo is
a bit of a monkey Brancher. When it comes to relationships.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
We all know those people, don't we.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
Laura burn I feel personally victimized pretty huckly. But she
certainly has one door closing as the other one opens,
and that was very much the case in this relationship.
So Jalo and Ben are seen kissing in public, and
then it isn't until a couple of months later that
she actually files for divorce with Chris Judd. So as
far as public perception is aware, she's still married to
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Chris Judd.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
I guess we're never going to know, though, And you
would like to think that if they were publicly, if
they were happy enough to be publicly be seen that
privately it's been called off. And I guess there is
a level that we need to understand that they're not
going to share every single thing. So maybe let's let's
give it the benefit of doubt. That benefit, get it?
(13:22):
How long have you been sitting on that? Actually that
one just rolled out. Let's give them the benefit of
the doubt and say that they had split.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
Okay, I mean, we'll never know because Jlo seems to
have very very hard and fast relationships, which is why
she's had six engagements and three marriages so far, and
I mean, I'm not shaming the woman, all the power
to her. And also think it just goes to show
that she was one hundred percent the most wanted woman
in Hollywood at that point in time. Their relationship transpired
so quickly. Within six months, Ben had proposed to Jlo
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and her divorce to Chris Judd wasn't even finalized yet,
so she was already engaged before actually being divorced.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
I steel technically married. I mean, go for example, they
live your best life. So it's literally been six months.
In November of two thousand and two, that is when
they publicly announced their engagement, and also when she starts
rocking around in the infamous six carrot pink diamond ring.
I remember that pink engagement ring. But what would that
That had to have been millions, it was two point
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five million.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
It's insane at this point on her finger. I just
imagine walking around with that level of liability. I wouldn't
That's the thing. I wouldn't wear it because someone would
steal it from you. But when you were at their
level of success, I think it's like chomp changed. Do
you mean like they were earning so much money per
movie or per music video, and it was just like
like two point five million dollars inconsequential.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
I remember the ring well, but what I remember more
is the film quick that came out on the yacht.
They just announced their engagement. People didn't even really know yet.
And then there's that really famous scene of her big, beautiful,
glorious booty and he kissed it and tapped it with
his hand, tapped her button. That is what I remember
of their relationship. It's like the number one thing. But
don't you think it's so interesting? So this is Jenny
(15:05):
from the Block, right, I do want to think of
it for us, I'm still Jenny Frown the Black you
used to have.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
A little The Jenny from the Block video caused so
much controversy because people not a little controversy.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
People just wanted that insight. They wanted the voyeurism.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
And it was supposed to be satire, like it was
supposed to be making fun of the fact that the
paparazzi were always chasing them, but it almost did the
opposite in that it gave people even more access to
their relationship. And Ben Affleck came out and he said
he said that he did Jenny from the Block, but
he complained that everybody missed the point. The reason I
did the video was a commentary on the crazy tabloid
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paparazzi attention, but it was covered without any irony whatsoever.
We were trying to say, look at how silly this
all is, while at the same time have fun and
be a bit sexy.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
But then went on to say that it was one
of the message you in their bench. We wanted to
be satire but serious, but we also wanted them to
know that not to take us seriously, not to chase us, but.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
We also wanted to be sexy, to be sexy as well,
and to create some really stimulating conversation.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
Around the political world.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
He went on to say as well that that was
the biggest regret from their relationship, that he felt like
all that did was inspire and incite even more insight
into their relationship.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
Well, I think this is why we became so obsessed
with him, because we wanted more. We got a very
public look at a very private moment what should be
private between two people, and we became obsessed with it.
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This is hooked, hitched and hung up, and we're doing
a deep dive into the ultimate one who got away
and then got back together story Ben Affleck and Jennifer Lopez,
and it's a good AKA benefit.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
So everybody's obsessed. But at the time Ben didn't get it.
And I'm pretty interested in this because there's been some
conflicting messaging and some conflicting quotes that have come out
of Ben. But he says, I can promise you that
our life together doesn't warrant it. We watch movies, we
sit at home, we go out to dinner. It's more
or less what everyone else does. There is a wall
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looming in the Middle East, Europe is redefining itself, America
is in a recession. Sure, we're getting married, but I
just can't understand why this isn't a page twenty item
because of the degree to which it's been discussed. It
has to have to do with something bigger and deeper
than just two actors who are romantically involved, because how
interesting is that really?
Speaker 1 (17:27):
That has a shelf life of about two weeks.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
I think it has to do with race and class,
the fact that I'm white and she's Puerto Rican. That's
what's underneath, although nobody said it because it's not politically correct.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
Yeah, I think there's something to be said for that.
I think back then that was probably there's a level
of shock there that there was an interracial couple. Maybe
it wasn't as popular back then and we didn't have
as much access to it as we did. So if
he feels that enough to comment, who are we to
say that he's incorrect. That's obviously the impression that he's
getting and he's the one in the relationship.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
There is another quote that comes from a Vanity Fair
article which he did, which was like a full expose
and very in depth around not just his relationship with
j Lo, but his own personal life. And he talked
about the amount of money that they make as a couple,
and he said, it's the price of my privacy, the
price of my life. It has to do with international exposure.
It's somebody who can get in the papers, be on television,
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and draw attention to the movies. So he's talking about
why he gets paid such huge dollars to be in movies.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
He says, you have to become a whole. Nobody's paying
anybody money out of the goodness of their own heart.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
What is it worth to haul your private life? And
have every aspect of it totally exposed. When you consider that,
I feel like I'm underpaid. So he knows the benefits
of exposing his personal life. Both of them are very savvy.
They understand that by doing that they're increasing their own profiles.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
Yeah, and this is still early days for them to
an extent. They know they want to be really famous.
They're at that point where they don't know the price
of being so public yet, which they learn very soon,
very quickly. But at this point they want to be
everywhere they want to be. Even if they don't understand it,
they know that that's what sells, that's what's going to
get them in the next movie. They're not silly.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
And what better way to get a year's worth of
free publicity, you know, than to marry your a listic
costar and throw a huge wedding for your family, your friends,
and all of your closest paparazzi within one hundred miles.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
Probably unintentional, but hey, they were there.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
So it seems like all the pressure of organizing a
wedding and having three decoy brides really got to Ben
and Jen and they released a public statement, but basically
just to summarize it, it was that the wedding itself
had lost meaning to them in that what they wanted
it to be, like a special romantic moment to share
with their family and their friends, was no longer going
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to be that. When they got to the point where
they had to hire the third decoy bride.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
That's really sad. Imagine, Like I guess it became a
bit like a business transaction in the end, and.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
They couldn't leave the house. They're getting swamped by paparazzi
wherever they left, Like, whatever they did together as a couple,
you would know one hundred percent it was going to
be the front page of a magazine. So they got
together in two thousand and two, but by two thousand
and four, the relationship was now own over. So let
me get this straight.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
They canceled the wedding, and then what it's just done
on the spot, Well, it wasn't just done.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
So basically they postponed the wedding in September of two
thousand and three, and they said at the time that
the media attention that was all the speculation around the
wedding was too much and it was too overwhelming. However,
it did also very much coincide at the same time
that all the shitty reviews came out for Jiggly or
Glee or whatever the hell we want to call it.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
It's typically not Jiggly, but that's what we'll call it.
It was just like the movie was so poorly received.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
Not only was it poorly received, but there were so
many critics saying that they had absolutely no chemistry on screen.
Can you imagine having like your relationship on screen and
everybody saying that.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
You would terrible actors together? It would be horrible, but
obsolutely horrible, even just to get terrible active even if
you weren't in a relationship on screen. It's like, no
wants that.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
So by January two thousand and four, they had then
announced that they had officially ended their engagement and they
both had parted ways.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
It's actually really sad because I feel like it just
happened really fast, and they it's almost like they weren't
given a chance. But I wonder if they actually knew
it was over when they postponed the wedding, or do
you think that they were actually going to try and
give it a crack and revisit the wedding.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
I mean there's speculation about it, but I think at
the time, if you're going to postpone your wedding and
then very shortly afterwards actually announced that you've broken up,
you're not just postponing the wedding because the media attention's
too heavy. You're postponing the wedding because maybe the relationship is.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
On the rocks. You got some cracks for sure. Yeah,
and so I guess this is where benefit into stage left.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
Well, this is where benefit turns into a whole new benefit.
He just literally takes out this one Jennifer and pops in.
Speaker 1 (21:38):
A new Jennifer hashtag Benefit two point zero.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
Ben goes on to get married to Jennifer Garner very
shortly afterwards. Literally only a year later was he engaged
to Jennifer Garner. And within six months of Jlo and
Ben Affleck breaking up, June two thousand and four is
when Jlo actually gets married to Mark Anthony.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
So not engaged, getting married within six months after losing
the love of her life, She's married. And you've got
to remember that she was also engaged to Ben Affleck
before her divorce to Chris Judd was finalized. Either the
chick loves to be married. I'm calling it Jlo's needy.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
She is Is she needed to be in relationships or
is she just that wanted?
Speaker 1 (22:20):
Like I think about think about it, because this is her.
She's choosing to marry these people. You could date someone
for sure, but she's marrying, divorcing, splitting, engaged, splitting married totally.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
But she has to get proposed to like these men
are so willing to like, like, I've never had a
guy proposed to me within six months?
Speaker 4 (22:36):
Have you?
Speaker 1 (22:37):
I mean, you weren't that far off? I think you
know the answer for me, I was pregnant within a year.
Actually I take that back exactly, but I think I mean,
at the end of the day, she obviously likes relationships.
Who are we to judge good on her? And then
she and she ended up being with him for a
long time. Mark Anthony. Hey, she had twins and I
remember she had little she's they're beautiful now they're older now.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
Yeah, they have two kids together. But she always did
speak so fondly about Ben Affleck. She spoke about him
even like whilst they were married, her and Mark Anthony
were married, she would refer to Ben Affleck as her
first true love.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
So moving on.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
Over a decade, both Ben and Jlo have been in
completely different relationships. They've been married, They've had children, they
have lived separate lives, and have created families both separately,
and have also spoken about their partners with such love
and affection. I think like when you look at videos
between Ben Affleck and Jennifer Ghana, he seems and comes
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across as the most wonderfully doting father and husband at
the time. And also jay Loo seems so incredibly invested
in her relationship with Mark Anthony.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
It's stable.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
They've got a beautiful family together. However, as we know,
things weren't exactly as they seem, and in twenty fifteen,
Ben and Jennifer Gana announced their divorce.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
Ah, so that's where all these sad Ben memes came from.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
Poor little sad Ben Affleck with his big phoenix tattoo.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
You remember when that all happened, when you were like,
I don't. I remember seeing a photo of him one
day on the beach with no shirt on it, and
I was like, what is on his wa is he doing?
Why did he do that shit tag? I was like,
did that man rolling ash?
Speaker 2 (24:08):
I couldn't really see, Okay, but also this all came
and the sad Ben memes came from a very famous
interview that he did when he was promoting Batman versus
Superman and he was sitting there just staring off into
the abyss. He the astral Plane for a moment in
Phoenix Plane.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
He checked out. Life was too much for him and
he was I mean, he came out later he was
he was really sad. He was really depressed and at
a really low point of his life.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
Well, there was also photos of him that came out
where he was like carrying like a horde of Duncan donuts.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
There was another one of him sitting and not be
hating on him for the Dunkin donuts. We've all been there,
we've all been there. But there was another one who's
sitting in his car like vaping. And the paparazzi shots
that came out and around the twenty sixteen mark when
things were really going bad for him. This is like
after his divorce with Jennifer Garner, and it was like
the wheels were well and truly falling off the bandwagon.
I mean, I'm going to relate to him little bit.
(25:00):
I've gone through a break up the last couple of months,
and you're seen vaping in your car. Hey, pretty Hockley
sad vaping in a car.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
But you know what one thing you haven't done, Brett
in the throes of a bad breakup. You haven't gotten
a full back tattoo.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
You haven't seen my back lately.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
All right, So I'm sure that you guys have all
seen this photo of Ben. Now he's standing there at
the beach, looking out forlorn into the ocean, mindful, a
little bit sad thinking. But this is the first time
that we have seen a glimpse of whatever it is
that he's done to his back. There is a phoenix
that is creeping up literally from his butt crack all
the way up and across his right shoulder.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
Okay, why.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
When the external world crumbles around you, the only solution is.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
To go inward, fine solace, get to know yourself, find peace,
and get a back tattoo. Have you seen Madam is disgusting.
It's so ugly. He's the haudliest tattoo. Go through a
midlife class. It's okay, we'll get that like cute little
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love heart tattoo on your little pinky. You know, I
broon't gets something like that, like a broken heart or something,
but like it was so ugly actually that the first
time there was a pap barazzi photo, everyone started around
the world. So I had to write him off about it,
and he was so embarrassed. He was like he pretended
it was fake. He's like, oh, I've got it for
a movie. It's just like drawn on. But then years
went past, it was still there. It was like, bro like,
just admit it. This is this is real.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
There's actually this great quote of his where he said, yes,
he's he's like, in some aspects, my life went to shit,
which is why I got a phoenix rising out of
my arm.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
Well played, Ben, well played? But keep that shirt off? Well.
Isn't it interesting? Though? Because Jaylo announced her divorce from
Mark Anthony in twenty eleven, So I am wondering if
our friend Ben took a little bit of inspiration and
was like, oh, the love of my life is back
on the market, maybe I should do the same.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
No, do you reckon that they spent it there? I
don't think they would have spent all this time pining together.
I just think that maybe there was like.
Speaker 1 (26:56):
Well she said he was the love of her life,
So the first love of her life, but maybe that
there was like it was do you think it was
more opportunistic than what it was deliberate? Look, I'm just
throwing a question out mate.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
After well, you would think that maybe at this point
in time they were getting back together, but it wasn't.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
Absolutely wasn't the case.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
So this is still in twenty fifteen, and during this time,
Jaylo then goes on to get into a relationship with
Standard with shock horror, I know, right, like she is
in relationships way more than what she's single, but also
like it's like she's literally not single. I don't know,
like these guys have to slide into her dms within
a week of her being single because she snapped up already. Well,
(27:35):
I think that's what happened. I think a rod her
next love slid into a dam mate. It's just the
modern day love story, isn't it. And it is a
modern day love story because apparently he cheated on and
there were lots of speculation around that and they were
supposed to be getting married. There was an engagement there
and shit really hit the fan. Okay, well, how much
was that engagementy? I think five million.
Speaker 1 (27:54):
What'sn't really? Yeah, So she's she's going up in the world.
She's moving up in the world with every engagement with
the rings.
Speaker 2 (27:59):
They started off at a one hundred thousand dollars with
her very first fiance slash husband, which was a Johnny
Noah and Noah even knows about whoho that guy is.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
Did you just make shramming a pun? Yes? I did.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
And then there was another one hundred thousand dollars which
came from Chris Judd, which was her second husband, and
then it really skyrocketed. It went to two point five million,
which came from Ben Affleck. Then it went to four
million from Marc Anthony so a Rod who was the
fifth guy that she was engaged to. Somehow, it's been
reported that the ring that he purchased is anywhere between
one million and five million. Now that is a very
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big discrepancy, and maybe that's why the relationship didn't work out.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
Well, I'm gonna guess is probably not the five million mark,
which she probably would have married him, was probably less
sick maybe. So obviously we're going to talk about how
Ben and Jen get back together in a hot second,
But first I want to talk about this big fuck
off ring that she is wearing on a finger that
Ben gave her.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
So the second ring, the second No, this is the
second ring, which I think is bigger than the first one.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
We'll buy from you know, my my eye, it looks
bigger than the first one.
Speaker 2 (28:59):
So this ring is a ten million dollar really ugly
green diamond.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
Apparently it's really rare. But you know what they say,
money color by taste. Hang on, you just skipped past
to something that I'm picking my drop off the ground.
Ten million dollars, Takailston powers. She's walking around with a
ten million dollar ring on her finger. Well, it's like.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
Every single engagement has gone up incrementally, so it had
to get bigger and bigger and bigger.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
This is sort of borderline, like I'm tempted to rob her.
I'm trying to formulate a plan.
Speaker 4 (29:28):
I will take you down, Jaylo. I'm Brittany from the
block as well. Actually, where the hell is she wears
the perhaps I'm going.
Speaker 1 (29:42):
Now she's left a rod. When does she get back
together in her very public loving relationship now with Ben
Affleck for the second time? So what was the period there?
Speaker 2 (29:51):
So they broke up in twenty twenty one, and in
twenty twenty one, Ben Affleck slides into the DMS of Jlo.
Being that they're both single, he really takes like an
old Shakespeare approach and starts sending her emails.
Speaker 1 (30:04):
At least he didn't take a full page dad out
this time. At least he's learned something so like fits
some privacy.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
But yeah, so he starts sending her emails and that's
how they keep in contact over the space of a
couple of months.
Speaker 1 (30:14):
And then the details around.
Speaker 2 (30:16):
When they actually started dating are pretty unclear. But it
isn't until July twenty twenty one that they take their
relationship that's probably been going on for a couple of
months in private.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
They make it very public.
Speaker 2 (30:27):
Jen posts a carousel to Instagram and it's like all
these beautiful photos of herself on a yacht enjoying her
fifty second birthday, and then the last photo in the
carousel reel is a photo of Jen and Ben kissing,
and it blows the Internet up iconic.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
Have you seen it? Yeah, I've seen it. I've I've
seen it. Hello took before research, No, I just took
the world by storm. I remember thinking they weren't actually
back together. I remember thinking, cute, they're having a fling.
I didn't think that they were going to be like
this whole other relationship again round two. Well, and they've been.
They've been caught out.
Speaker 2 (30:59):
Like it's not like this was the first time that
anybody had seen them together. They had been pat photos,
they had been caught out meeting up in La and
their commentary towards media was that they were just good
friends catching up. But now it was like that was official.
And I love the way that they did it in
this like very bread crumbing way. So it was like
several posts and then it was the last photo of
(31:19):
a carousel.
Speaker 1 (31:19):
Real you know, she just wants to check that people
sliding through her whole carousel.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
Yeah, she needs the engagement, like go through all of them.
Then please leave a comment, thanks very much, like swipe
believe a fire emoji.
Speaker 1 (31:29):
I mean, this is what I'm thinking right now. You'd
think that they would have learnt from their past, like
they complained they called off their first wedding because there
was too much public attention. There was too much scrutiny,
too many people chasing them and turn into a business transaction.
Fast forward twenty years and you're doing the same thing.
You've just put it back on Instagram and made it public. Okay.
Speaker 2 (31:48):
But the question is, and to their defense, if they
didn't make it public in some way, would that mean
that the public, like the scrutiny of the paparazzi, would
be even greater because they'd be chasing them trying to
get at the photo. Because you know what it's like now,
like if you say, yeah, yes this happened, the media
goes crazy for two weeks and then it kind of
goes away. So do you think that maybe they were
(32:08):
already being followed. There was already so much speculation that
they were together, that they were like, okay, let's just
like drop the bomb and get on with our lives.
Speaker 1 (32:16):
Yeah, but they're not dumb. There is no drop it
and get on with their lives. Like this is it now.
They have to know that once it's out, they'll be
harassed for eternity.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
And I do think it's so I mean, this is
what I mean by it's like the irony of Ben
Affleck and j Lo. They have lived the life two
decades ago they got the opportunity of being together and
this is like the crazy, amazing redemption story. This whole
idea of like that maybe she's the one that got
away and they got a second chance at this relationship
and they get a second chance to do it differently.
Speaker 1 (32:45):
Well, maybe this is really pushing the narrative that there
can be the right people at the wrong time. And
I mean, like, I'm always on the fence about that.
I've always been like, oh, if it's the wrong time,
is it just the wrong person. But they've come full circle.
It's been twenty years. We don't know. Look, we don't
know if they're going to live happily ever after. We're
never gonna be able to know that. But they have
come back. They've moved in together recently, they've just moved
(33:06):
into like a ridiculously big mansion. It's looking like they're
finally found them happy ever after. But I'll be interested
to see what happens and if they do split, who
she's going to marry in six months time.
Speaker 2 (33:19):
You would think that with everything that they had learned
from their first relationship, all the mistakes that they'd made,
that maybe they would do things differently the second time around,
you know, twenty years later, And it's something that we've
talked about in life on cut before. It's like, if
you're going to give your relationship, like an ex relationship,
a second chance, things have to be fundamentally different for
them to end up being happy together. If you're revisiting
(33:40):
a relationship this second time around, I hope to god
you've taken something from the first time because it didn't work.
Speaker 1 (33:45):
Well.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
They do say when you know better, you do better,
but not if you're Jen and Ben. So you know
how the first time he starred in the Jenny from
the Block movie or film clip, whatever you want to
call it, and he was slapping her on the bart
and then he said that he opened up his relationship
too much. It was the worst mistake he'd made in
his relationship. Well, he's just recently starred in her new
film Clear, which is called Marry Me, for the movie
(34:06):
that she's doing, which is also called Marry Me.
Speaker 1 (34:09):
But is this history repeating itself.
Speaker 2 (34:11):
I'm gonna say yes, because they're literally pimping out their
relationship for their work again.
Speaker 1 (34:16):
I just think these people are so obsessed with notoriety
and love and attention that they don't know how to
live without it. And I think that they think they
don't want it, and they try and become recluse and
going to hiding for a hot second, and they miss
it and then boom back in another film Clep.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
I feel like there's this real, like school, like high
school excitement about their relationship, like the fact that they've
like been able to fall in love again a second
time around. There must be this incredible validation that comes
with being able to tell the world and being able
to be like, see, we proved you all wrong. We're
back together. It's just like they're walking down the same
road that they've done before.
Speaker 1 (34:50):
Yeah, and maybe the fact that they're a bit older now,
they've lived a life, they're in their fifties. Maybe they
feel like the media storm isn't going to be the same.
Maybe they think everyone's gonna be happy for us and
then move on because there's all these the young hot
guns that are driving all the attention, and we can
only hope that that's the case. They have had a
lot of attention up until now. Maybe they're actually not
getting enough attention and that's why they're putting out the
film clip. Maybe they're like, well, why is everyone peering off?
Speaker 2 (35:12):
They're like, I'm sorry, we were used to getting a
lot more than this last time, I need to tap
some assa or well, there was actually a photo of him,
they've been papped on a boat and he was like
kissing j Lo's beautiful bass and it was like they
were recreating that moment from Jenny from the Block.
Speaker 1 (35:27):
Absolutely and they did they a one hundred percent you
what they were.
Speaker 2 (35:29):
Doing that is you And you know you know when
you're on a yacht that there's a paparazzi down there
taking photos of yourself.
Speaker 1 (35:34):
Yeah, you're in the exact same position of the first
photo that went viral, Like the first that exact moment.
They've recreated it. They knew what it was going to do.
They love the attention, but you know what, good luck
to them. I hope that she's finally found anyone.
Speaker 2 (35:48):
And that is there from Jennifer Lopez and Ben Affleck.
Done and dusted. You are welcome and who knows what
will happen next with this redemption story for the ones
who got away.
Speaker 1 (35:57):
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are plenty of juicy episodes headed your way.
Speaker 1 (36:07):
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