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Seth Candan joins Susan to share his journey from teenage country musician to Alvin City Council candidate, recounting performances with George Strait's drummer, unexpected Grammy adventures, and his signature swampy Texas sound. Seth's musical evolution intertwines with his personal story of fatherhood, revealing how stepping away from music at the height of his career led to unexpected opportunities through authentic connections and community involvement.

• Starting music at 14 with George Strait's drummer on his first record
• Nearly having Kenny Rogers record one of his songs
• College station days playing at Shotzi's despite being underage
• Building connections with artists like Whiskey Myers and Cody Johnson
• Attending the Grammy Awards with Wayne Toups
• Stepping away from touring at career peak to focus on fatherhood
• Recent reconnection with music through chance opportunities
• Current campaign for Alvin City Council leveraging connections to help hometown
• Performances of original songs including "Angels Covered in Ash" and "Homemade Remedy"
• Plans to release new music while balancing family and civic responsibilities

Join us next Tuesday with Trent Cowie for more stories and songs from Texas and beyond.


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Susan Hickman (00:05):
Well, hello.
How's it going, everybody?
Make some noise out there.
Come on now.
Happy Tuesday.
Welcome to Hooked.
Stories and songs from Texasand beyond.
Huge, huge thanks to Cocos onthe Canal for...
Helping this concert series andinterview series and video

(00:27):
series come to life.
I do have with me right now Mr.
Seth Candan, all the way fromAlvin, Texas.
Yeah, make some noise.
I have been wanting to dosomething like this for a
really, really long time.
And we had our first episodelast year.
How's it going?
Doing good.

(00:51):
Good to see

Seth Candan (00:59):
you.

Susan Hickman (01:09):
When I decided to do this, you were like one of
the first people that I thoughtof.
I was like, we have to get Sethon the show.
So back during quarantine,COVID, we did some illegal
things.
We got together and had morethan six people in a garage.
And we did something kind oflike this from, whose garage was
that?

Seth Candan (01:29):
It was Bryce and Brandon's.
Busted String's live stream.

Susan Hickman (01:33):
Yes.

Seth Candan (01:34):
We didn't wear a mask either.

Susan Hickman (01:36):
No, definitely not.
We only had at least four tosix people on camera at a time,
so technically, they can't sayanything.
But that was a thing.

Seth Candan (01:46):
That was weird, because when you...
You know, you couldn't go to abar, right?
And everyone shoved alltheir...
whiskey and they all createdtheir own bars at their houses
and that was it's weird to lookback on it now but just to think
that people had concerts orshows or everyone was
home-bodied you couldn't go to arestaurant you know it just

(02:08):
seems so weird now but it's tothink about how that was even a
thing is just not even that longago it was just a half a what
four five years ago five yearsago yeah

Susan Hickman (02:18):
yeah five years ago it's kind of weird too
because I mean, I hope nothinglike that ever happens again,
but for the first time in mywhole life, I think I finally
had a break.
I had a vacation, and that wasactually kind of fun.
Oh,

Seth Candan (02:32):
yeah.
Wake up every day and just wearpajamas and go to bed and wear
pajamas.
Oh, yeah.

Susan Hickman (02:39):
It was fantastic.
But I remember doing that, andwe did live streams.
We teamed up with different...
Radio stations, venues, allthat kind of stuff.
And it was cool.
And even beyond that, I wantedto do something like this back
15 years ago.
So it's cool to see it comeinto life.

(03:00):
And thank you for being mysecond guest

Seth Candan (03:02):
ever.
I'm honored.
Thank you.

Susan Hickman (03:04):
Well, tell the lovely people about yourself.
I know you're from Alvin,Texas.

Seth Candan (03:10):
From Alvin, yeah.

Susan Hickman (03:11):
Yeah, give them the rundown.

Seth Candan (03:13):
Yeah, Alvin folk out there.
No, Susan and I have known eachother for a long time.
I grew up playing country musicat a very early age.
I was 14, 15 years old, and Irecorded my first record called
Life.
I went to Arkansas.
A guy named Doug Drieselproduced it up there, and we had

(03:37):
George Strait's drummer, whichwas cool, because at that
time...
I was a kid, and I was justwriting these songs, and I
co-wrote this one with DougDriesel, and he invited me to
the studio, and he had GeorgeStrait's drummer.
I

Susan Hickman (03:53):
was just talking to Leo about that the other day,
and remember he was deaf.
Mikey Kennedy.

Seth Candan (03:59):
Mike Kennedy, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Partial death, that's right.
He passed away now.

Susan Hickman (04:03):
Yeah.

Seth Candan (04:04):
And I had Dolly Parton's fiddle player.
So I'm with all these coolguys, and I'm in the studio, and
I got to write this song.
And Doug goes, man, that's areally cool song, Crawl.
You know, we ought to pitchthat out.
I was like, well, do what yougot to do.
It wasn't even until like twoyears ago, I was at the Texas
Music Awards with Sandy June andEd Bradley, and I ran into

(04:26):
Doug.
He's like, man, you're one hardgotta find.
I was like, why did he saythat?
He's like, dude.
That song Crawley wrote, he'slike, you know that Kenny Rogers
wanted to cut that song andthen we couldn't find you.
We were looking for you onMySpace.
I was like, God dang, MySpacewas still a thing.
Like, that tells you how old itwas.
It didn't happen, but I waslike, well, that's still cool,
though.
I mean, just to know that kindof movement and stuff with those

(04:49):
kind of guys.
But no, then from there, afterhigh school, I went to college,
Zip and Blend.
She had Aggies around.
Went to College Station, and Istarted working on another
record.
And it so happened to be whereI wasn't chasing the music.
It just kind of just happened.

(05:09):
I was playing guitar at thehouse, and my college roommates
were the only ones listening tome, throwing beer cans out in
the backyard late nights.
And there was a bar calledShotzi's.

Susan Hickman (05:24):
Yeah.

Seth Candan (05:25):
And I remember

Susan Hickman (05:25):
Shotzi's.
Uh-huh.

Seth Candan (05:27):
And old Corey owned it at the time, and he had, I
guess it was an open mic nightthat night.
It was, and Cade and Claytonsaid, hey, Seth, get up and
play.
I was like, I'm not going upthere and playing.
Sure enough, they signed me up,and I got up there, and I
played.
And mind you, I was underage,and I shouldn't probably be
telling you this story, but Iwas underage.

Susan Hickman (05:49):
They can't do nothing about it

Seth Candan (05:52):
now.
And I got up there, and Istarted...
playing some songs, and I seethis guy put his head up behind
the bar, and I got done, and hegoes, hey, man, are you from
around here?
I said, yeah, I live here.
He goes, how old are you?
I said, I'm 19.
He goes, well, I'm Corey.
I own this bar.
He said, if you want to come uphere and play any time, he's
like, I know you're underage,but I could give you a couple

(06:13):
beers, but you're going to haveto be in the office.
We're a freshman in college.
That was like hearing, like,that's gold ring.
That's the angels singing.
From ramen noodles and freebeer, that's what you want,
okay?
So that was a golden ticket.
So now I started playing, andthere's a guy named Brandon
Scott Turner.
I still keep up with him tothis day.
But we started up a band, andit just happened.

(06:35):
He just started playing, youknow?
And then from that time, therewas the Hall of Fame, and then
Hurricane Harry's was kicking.

Susan Hickman (06:43):
Yeah.

Seth Candan (06:44):
And that was kind of like a go-to place.
You had your ten staples ofcollege towns in Texas.
You had Nacogdoches, SFA.
You had UT.
You had your six streets.
But, you know, when you get tothe small secluded towns of like
West Texas or College Station,you only listen to what you had
on the radio.
Mind you, in 2005 and 6 and 7,8, it wasn't like your phone,

(07:07):
you know, where you could justput it in and download.
It wasn't Apple or so.

Susan Hickman (07:12):
You had to search it out.

Seth Candan (07:14):
Uh-huh.
Yeah.
But I started up a band, and itjust got to the point where we
were playing shows here, andthen that time it was Whiskey
Myers and Cody Johnson, and allthose guys were just now
starting off.
Everyone was at the same age askicking off, and there was an
energy drink called Red DirtHurricane.

Susan Hickman (07:33):
I remember them.
You remember that?
Yeah.

Seth Candan (07:35):
And they would host these things in College Station
at the taproom.
So Cody would come over, andNick Frasoso was managing
everybody.

Unknown (07:44):
Yep.

Seth Candan (07:44):
So like all the guys from Whiskey Myers would
come stay at my house.
And they'd be playing at thebar for like a hundred bucks,
you know, and I'd go hang outwith them in Palestine.
And we were going back andforth until the point like, hey,
we're playing and Waco come upand up for us.
And then when I ended up movingto New Braunfels, I signed with
Gino on Rest Music.
I started playing, we werecentralized in Central Texas,

(08:08):
and started touring and playingaround, and then Whiskey Myers
was like, hey, we're playinghere.
Cody Johnson's like, I'mplaying there.
Do you want to open up for mehere?
I got to open up for RandyRogers.
That was a cool thing backthen.
But you were in that all night.
Yeah,

Susan Hickman (08:23):
and it's cool, too.
That whole, you know, when thatTexas music revolution was kind
of coming up, right?
It's like everybody...
Everybody that really workedwell together, we're all
friends, right?
And so it's like, hey, you comeopen for me, I come open for
you.
Or we team up and do thesethings together.
And when you lock arms, it'slike you have power with

(08:48):
numbers.
And you can get everybody.
I miss song swaps.
And I miss just getting a bunchof your buddies on a stage and
just having a show, right?

Seth Candan (08:59):
Yeah.
Because how it works is thatyou have your friends and your
fans, people you meet back then,because it wasn't the big
social media.
Remember, social media wasn'tthat big.
Facebook, you had to be incollege just to have it, right?
So that was that time where youwent out and played and got as
many fans as you did, and thesepeople had as many fans as you
got.
And so we would all gettogether on stage and

(09:20):
collaborate.
It was like a family affair.

Susan Hickman (09:23):
I wish it was a little bit more like that.
I mean, it is to a certainextent, but back then it was
like, we're doing this together.
I thought that was really cool.

Seth Candan (09:32):
It was a movement.

Susan Hickman (09:33):
Yeah, for sure.
So how long have we known eachother?
At

Seth Candan (09:38):
least 20 years.
Yeah.
At least 20 years, yeah.

Susan Hickman (09:42):
I remember this kid, back then you were a kid.
I mean, he's actually youngerthan me, and I don't like to
tell that story at all.
But I remember starting, like,seeing you around, and you were,
like, skinny.
You were, like, clean-shaven.
And I was like, who is thiskid?
And I was like, oh, he's, like,swampy.

(10:02):
He's, like...
Cool.
Like, he just grooves.
But speaking of Swampy, so whatis that song that you were
talking about that Kenny Rogerswanted to record?

Seth Candan (10:15):
So that was completely not Swampy at all.
Well, not that.
But it was called Crawl.
I was a 16.
It was a very soft love song.
Oh.
I don't think I got into moreof the blues and the southern
feel until you kind of find yourway, you know?

Susan Hickman (10:32):
Yeah.

Seth Candan (10:33):
But it was on my sophomore record was when I was
in college.
And I would really technicallysay that that was actually a
pre-trial record.
You know how some people, whenthey record a record, it's like
you're so hard on yourself.
It's kind of like when you takea picture, you look at yourself
like, take another one.
Some people do that.
I don't know.
I don't.
It looks just like me, but...
The record, I just took it howit went.

(10:56):
But no, yeah, just a little bitabout myself.
Yeah, so from there, I went toNew Braunfels and toured around
and got on the management labelwith Gina with Unrest Music.
And at that time...
Mike McClure, he was a bigproducer at the time with Red
Dirt Music.

(11:16):
He produced all the Ragweed andStoney and Turnpike
Troubadours.
I really wanted to get into hisstudio in Oklahoma.

Susan Hickman (11:23):
He's a cool dude.

Seth Candan (11:25):
Very cool, weird dude.
Very weird.
If you could describe his housein Oklahoma, it would look like
a serial killer's playground,dude.
Does that make sense?
Yeah.
But every one of Garth Brooks'records that he came out with,
he covered a Mike McClure song,so did Turnpike, and many more.
But everyone wanted to get onhis record.

(11:49):
Everyone wanted him to producethem.
And we had the chance to go toOklahoma, and it clicked.
It worked out.
And from there, it was a prettycool deal.
We got to tour around, didstuff with Eli Young and Jamie
Johnson, and I was asked by, atthat time, Gino, have I ever

(12:10):
heard of a Louisiana music?
And I said, no, I don't knowanything about Louisiana music.
He said, well, we want to getyou to go on this cruise.
And he said, this guy's kind oflike a Robert O'Keen in
Louisiana.
And I said, what's his name?
He said, Wayne Toops.

Susan Hickman (12:25):
Yes.

Seth Candan (12:26):
I said, okay.
I said, all right, so.

Susan Hickman (12:27):
Y'all know Wayne around these parts.

Seth Candan (12:29):
So I went on the cruise, didn't know Wayne at the
time, and By the end, I wasplaying my harmonica, and he was
playing that accordion.
The time we got off the ship,he was asked to go to the
Grammys.
We became good friends, and hecame and visited me in Houston
and my buddy Trixie's ranch.
He asked me to go to L.A.
with him to the Grammys.

(12:50):
That was a really coolexperience and a cool time to be
a part of something so special.
Just little time and friendshipthat I got to know him on.

Susan Hickman (13:00):
That is so cool.
I love that.
I remember when you told methat story, I was like, oh,
that's so cool.
You were Wayne Toop's date forthe Grammys.

Seth Candan (13:08):
I remember it hitting next to...
Because you go on theseGrammys, and I was like, you
can't take your phone, firstoff, right?
You can't take your phone,because if you take your phone
and take a picture, they'll keepit at the front desk, because
they'll hold it for you to writeyour pictures.
Well, I'm from Texas, so thatshit went right out the window.
I had my phone out takingpictures of everything.
Because to me...
That was a once-in-a-lifetimeopportunity to go.

(13:31):
I remember walking from whenyou leave the stadium and you're
walking back to where the afterparty is going to be at.
And this lady was like, oh, sheshould have won, talking like
she's from England.
I was like, oh, do you knowsomeone here?
She's like, yeah, my daughteris Adele.
And I was like, oh, no kidding.
Cool.

Susan Hickman (13:51):
Oh, my

Seth Candan (13:52):
gosh.
Bumped to the left and JenniferLopez hits my arm and just,
okay.
My mouth's dropping.
I was like...
So it was such a surreal momentto do something cool like that.
And then getting to play, andat that time I was 24 years old,
and I was coming to 25, and Istarted touring around pretty
heavily.
I was doing about 200 shows ayear.

Susan Hickman (14:11):
That's a grind, right?
It's a grind.
It's

Seth Candan (14:16):
a grind.
And we were about to come outwith our sophomore record, and
it was the one where we're goingto every radio station, every
show, playing live.
Every every arena open up foreither big names big acts get
paid crap money But it was justfun and we're hustling and
bustling and they caught fake ittill you make it and It was

(14:36):
rough.
It was rough and we were justnot getting successes through
the radio stations and stuff andThrough all of it we finished
the record and And everythingwas just perfect.
We got everything going.
And then I found out I wasgoing to have a beautiful little
girl named Selah.
And so in Houston, my family,we do construction development.

(14:59):
And I knew I was going to comeback home.
And at that time, I didn't knowreally where I was at.
My band had just came.
Through all this traveling andhustling, remember, we're all
made crap money to make it big.
And I think they're still madat me to this day, which they
should be.
But

Susan Hickman (15:18):
you did what was right for you, for your family,
for her.

Seth Candan (15:22):
I didn't just want to be on the road.
When I knew I was having mydaughter, it wasn't about me
anymore.
So I took a leave from that,and I said, look.
Hey, shoot, seven, eight yearsdown the road when she can walk
and talk, maybe I can get backand play music again.
And so I did it.
I stepped away from everythingat the most hottest time of my
life for music.
And it was a blessing becauseshe's the most amazing little

(15:46):
girl.
And so from there, it all kindof dials back into why I'm here
now.
A couple years ago, I got aphone call from Tom Ember.
You remember Tom?

Susan Hickman (15:57):
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.

Unknown (15:58):
Yeah.

Seth Candan (15:58):
From the firehouse.

Susan Hickman (15:59):
Yeah, he owned Firehouse Saloon, historic venue
in Texas.
It's not there anymore, andit's real sad.

Seth Candan (16:05):
The irony behind it burned down.

Susan Hickman (16:07):
Yeah.
During, yeah.
Like right during kind ofquarantine or right around that
time during 2020.
And yeah, I'm still an admin ontheir Facebook page.

Seth Candan (16:19):
You'd never think that a place called the
firehouse would burn down from afire, but it did.
No, so Neil came down fromTennessee and it was a friend's
pub and he said hey Do you wantto play and I said what?
I'm really not playing rightnow.
You know I've been right nowduring that time I've been
songwriting, you know, I justcouldn't put the couldn't put

(16:41):
the pencil down I think youknow, they always say you can
leave music but music will neverleave you and I'll find you You
don't really miss you don'trealize how much you miss
something till it's gone but Igot that phone call.
Hey, you want to come play?
I said, OK, sure, I'll do it.
I'll come play up there.
So I played.
And in that time, it was Augustof 2023.

(17:04):
And someone, I guess, wasrecording me when I was playing.
And I got a phone call becausethat next Monday I was on a skid
steer, mind you.
And I said, this is Seth.
They said, Candan.
And I knew that if they saidthe last in Carrasco, because my
name is Seth Cannon Carrasco,that it had to have been due
with construction or work ordevelopment.

(17:24):
And he goes, is this Cannon?
And I said, yes.
And he goes, hey, my name isJeremy Jeffers.
I'm Alex Bregman's businesspartner.
And we're doing an HEB promovideo at the Rusty Hook Ranch.
We saw a video of you and wouldlove for you to come down.
And I said...
Cool.
What's the details on this?

Susan Hickman (17:42):
Talk about the luckiest guy in the whole world.

Seth Candan (17:45):
So two days later, I'm down at the ranch and we're
doing these promo videos withAlex Bregman for his breggy bomb
sauces and stuff.
Yeah, throughout that, it waspretty cool to kind of meet some
of the guys there and thepeople who cook and the guys, RC
Ranch, who makes the beef andthe cattle.
And that's another story we'llget in later in

Susan Hickman (18:05):
the segment.
So they saw a video.
What did they see?
What song did they see?

Seth Candan (18:10):
It's a new one I wrote called Throw Out a Line.
I actually don't even have atitle.
Maybe one of you guys couldhelp me.
I think I've said this the lastthree shows.
I still haven't figured out thename of the song.

Susan Hickman (18:21):
Can you play it?

Unknown (18:23):
Ooh.

Seth Candan (18:23):
It's a pretty hard one to hit

Susan Hickman (18:24):
on.
Is it?
Well, son of a gun.
Well, can you play somethingfor us?

Seth Candan (18:29):
Yeah.

Susan Hickman (18:29):
Yeah?

Seth Candan (18:30):
I'm going to talk or you're

Susan Hickman (18:31):
going to have to stop.
No, no, you are good.
You're good.
No, seriously.
Like, I would rather you talkthan us go, what are we going to
talk about next?
Because that's awkward.
No, I seriously love, like,this man has all the stories and
all the things.
And like when I said, like,you're the luckiest guy in the
whole world.
Like, you are always, like,right place, right time.
But I feel...
That the reason good thingshappen to you, because you're

(18:54):
just a good dude.
Like, you're such a good dude,and I've always thought that
about you.
And I just, I love you topieces, and I appreciate our
friendship, and I'm glad you'rehere.
And I'm just excited for all ofthese people that don't know
you yet to get to know you anddive into your music.
And, yeah, so play us whateveryou want, man.
Like, he's got all the goodsongs, so.

Seth Candan (19:17):
Before we do Throttle Line, I'll do something
a little bit slower for you.
guitar solo If I fail At yourfeet Oh baby Will you notice me

(20:00):
Oh baby Would you just pass meby And if I was searching In the
deep of the night Oh baby Askme why Let me and my mom Y'all

(20:41):
take it real slow I saw yourthing Yeah, baby Just gotta let
it go And all I want is to keepyou satisfied Is

Susan Hickman (22:11):
that out on streaming platforms and all the
things?
No, it should be.
I know.
I love that song.
I love a lot of your songs, butI think a lot of the ones that
I really, really love, youhaven't even recorded yet.

Seth Candan (22:27):
So that one is actually, I just warmed up for
you as a guy from Oklahoma thatI've been wanting to put on a
record.
But I'm going to sing you acouple that I have written
recently.
But to lead back off though,Susan, on our embark of our
guest past friendships and toursand All the things.

(22:49):
Ups and downs of musicindustry.
Tell me a little bit aboutwhat's been going on.
I know you just recently justgot on a big TV show.

Susan Hickman (22:58):
I did.
I did.
I was on The Voice.
Yes.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
And actually, there was somequestions that we didn't get to
last week.
And I don't even know wherethose are.
They're probably in my boxsomewhere.
But there was a couple ofquestions about The Voice and
all that kind of stuff.
But yeah, it was a greatexperience.
I mean, it was...
It was fantastic.

(23:18):
Like, I met so many incrediblesingers, songwriters, just
people that I know were going tobe friends for life.
You know, we've been textingback and forth, and some of them
are still, you know, goingthrough the show, because the
show's still on right now, myseason at least.
And, yeah, they, yeah,incredible.
And, like, even, like, theproducers were amazing.

(23:40):
I mean, all the way down to,like, the guys going back and
forth, like, delivering uswater.
They just had, like...
like a very good spirit and avery good, um, just to, you
know, they were like giving uspep talks and like just hyping
us up and it was very cool.
But, uh, yeah, yeah, that'sbeen going on.
We're, uh, we're actuallygetting ready to, to move.

(24:01):
We started backing yesterday.
We closed on a, on a house on,uh, The 18th of April.
And so by the time this episodecomes out on all the podcast
streaming platforms and onYouTube, we'll probably already
be in our house for about amonth.
But yeah, we're doing that.
And yeah, life is good.

(24:22):
Life is really good.
Married life is good.
We've been married for sixmonths so far.
So yeah, we're doing very good.
That's the...

Seth Candan (24:32):
Chrissy and I are going to have to come in over
there and break a bottle ofwine.

Susan Hickman (24:35):
I know.
I thought you were about to sayChrissy and I are about to get
married too.
I'm like, oh, okay.
I'll be the flower girl.
Sorry, I'm not putting you onthe spot, but I know I love your
girl.
She's amazing.

Seth Candan (24:48):
She's a hard worker.

Susan Hickman (24:49):
Yeah.
She's good for you.

Seth Candan (24:52):
So over the past year, I don't know if a lot of
y'all don't know me, I've lostalmost 100 pounds.
So it's been, she got me backinto health and church and all
the good things.
So I'm very blessed and happy.
She's an awesome woman.

Susan Hickman (25:09):
You're more well-rounded now, but just less
rounded.

Seth Candan (25:12):
That could be a song.

Susan Hickman (25:16):
That could, Donna.
Where's my drummer at?
Come on now.
Oh goodness.
Well, so, so we kind ofreconnect because like you, you
know, you, you had your daughterand you, you're going through
that, you know, uh, journey ofyour life, that chapter and all,
you know, obviously that's acontinuation chapter, but, uh,
like I didn't see you for areally long time and it was

(25:37):
probably in what, like 20, itwas like 2020 when we kind of
like you know, got back,reconnected, and then you
started kind of doing some showswith, you know, you were
saying, you know, you had, youknow, like, RC Ranch guys, you
know, talking to them, and then,you know, bringing me out,
like...
When did you, like, you did theFriends Pub thing, but when did

(26:02):
you kind of start actuallyplaying shows, if you will?

Seth Candan (26:06):
Yeah, so it was back in, we did the Busted
Strings live stream.
That's kind of how when wefirst approached some of my
friends, we're saying, hey,let's call some of the guys that
you know and let's bring somepeople out.
So we had you come out to theshow and Parker McCollum's
brother and Tyler and Some coolsongwriters for us just to kind
of adventure in and havediscussions, right?

(26:29):
So it was after I got donedoing that promo video, it
seemed to be a domino effect.
It seemed like after 2022 or2023, it went from one thing to
another.
So I went to go do this thingat the Rusty Hook Ranch with
Bregman and then these guys atthe HEB promo deal.
And then Ryan Cade, who's ourBrazoria County Commissioner,

(26:51):
said, hey, you know, I'm doingthis thing with the RC Ranch.
And his business partner isBlake Robertson, who's the
founder and his family of theCarbock Brewery here in Houston.
And so I got to do all thestuff with those guys at Carbock
and the RC Ranch and then go onthe rodeo.
So I went to go play at thatranch, and I got a phone call
from Jason Allen and said, hey,are you playing again?

(27:14):
I said...
I guess.
I guess so.
He goes, well, I'm going toIndian Head Ranch in New Mexico.
This guy named Steve Alvisbought Patrick Swayze's ranch.
And it was where the movie RedDawn was recorded.
And so I went up there, andit's a bunch of cool guys, a
bunch of congressmen, senators,all different people.
Walks of Life Development, andthese guys are a cool group of

(27:36):
guys.
They own New Quest Properties,so Tower Gets, Dick's Sporting
Goods, the Whiskey Cakes.
He owns all that, but leasesthese buildings out.
So I got to meet them up there,and I was playing.
He's like, well, you know, heowns the Houston Oaks, so I went
to his place over at theHouston Oaks.
At that time, Governor Abbottappointed him as chairman of all

(27:57):
tech stock, the roadways andhighways.
So these events he startedplaying out of play at that and
I meet someone else and so I washey Well, why don't you come
play over here?
And so then I met these guys atthis dove hunt we went to
Christian I went down theyinvite us to Lytle, Texas and a
bunch of cool people fromFriendswood And we did this cool
hunt and then I met this doctorhe said hey We're doing this

(28:17):
cool thing and Lake Charles comeplay here So it's just kind of
been a domino effect is meetpeople and then you calling me
and saying to come out and playand I So I decided that this
year, life's been good, work'sbeen good, health's been good,
Christ has been good.
I'm going to come out with agood record this year finally.
So put some of this lyric songsand stuff out for folks to

(28:40):
hear.
Yes.

Susan Hickman (28:42):
That is very exciting.
Because I've been waiting for alot of songs from you.
Because some of your otherstuff is on the streaming
platforms and all that goodstuff.
But a lot of the ones that youdo, I like...
Whenever we play together, Ican't go listen to those.
And if you've never heard hismusic before, it gets stuck in
your head.
It's swampy, just cool,different.

(29:07):
And I love that because in aworld with a lot of cookie
cutter boxes, you don't fit inany of the boxes.
And I think that's okay.
And I always thought...
You had to fit yourself somehowinto a box or a mold.
Did you ever get that when youstarted playing music?
Did you ever feel like, I haveto tell people how to consume my

(29:31):
music, otherwise they're notgoing to understand it?

Seth Candan (29:33):
Well, I got really fat, so I wasn't going to fit in
any box.
I wasn't going to get in anybox.
But no, I just always did me.
I don't know.
That was...
I grew up listening toeverything.
Of course, my parents listenedto Credence and Eagles and then
from Willie to Waylon toeverything.
I listened to all kinds ofmusic, Beatles to all of it.

Susan Hickman (29:56):
And so it's like a conglomeration, right?
All of it.
Yeah.
I think that's important todraw from your influences and
draw from what you really liketo listen to and like to sing
and then just try to incorporatethose little things into...
Whatever mixture you're tryingto come up with.

Seth Candan (30:13):
Yeah, though I still don't know, like, even,
like, listening to country.
I mean, because I grew uplistening to stuff from rock to
things kids listen to,Backstreet to Shaggy.
So how do you come up tolistening and writing the things
that I do?
I don't know, but...

Susan Hickman (30:27):
What's, like, the weirdest song that you've ever
written?

Seth Candan (30:31):
Ooh.
Well, weird wouldn't be aweird, wouldn't be the word.

Susan Hickman (30:35):
Well, like, off the wall.
Like, something that...
You wouldn't really expect fromyou.

Seth Candan (30:41):
I typically like to write upbeat, swampy stuff.
There is a time when I wasgoing up to Oklahoma.
Oklahoma City.
And I usually like to write mymusic first on piano or guitar.
And I have a song I wrote abouta Vietnam vet.

(31:02):
He was on the side of the road.
And I've never...
Performed this live for anybodyor if you want me to play I'll
play it for you But uh, this guyhad a sign on the side of the
road and said one more dollarcould save my life And I went to
the gas station pump and wepulled in and he was sitting
there and uh As I was pumpingjordan went in he used to get a

(31:27):
red bull And he came up to meand he said hey man, you got any
spirit change and he justreeked of just booze you know,
he's kind of just gritting histeeth a little bit and And as I
could answer, Jordan was comingback, and he said, hey, what are
you going to do if we give yousome money?
I was like, man, I'm justtrying to get my next fix.
I'll be honest with you.
But I could tell that he had awedding ring on his finger, and

(31:49):
he had a rosary, and it justmixed me with emotions.
And I was going up to Oklahoma,and I wrote out a song thinking
about this guy's life.
So it would probably be one ofthe...
I want to say weird songs, buta song that I didn't really
naturally just write music firstand then wrote a song about
something personally with mylife.
You want me to share it

Susan Hickman (32:10):
with you?
I want you to share it.
How about y'all?
You want to hear it?

Seth Candan (32:13):
I've never played it.
I

Susan Hickman (32:16):
think I've heard you talk about this song before.
I think when we talk about ourdeep dive conversations...

Seth Candan (32:44):
¶¶ ¶¶ ¶¶ I'm a fellow.

(33:19):
I guess you learn a lot of shitby the time you grow cold.
Devil takes away his pain for aneedle to ease his soul.
And I sit here wondering, howcan a man live like that?

(33:39):
Fighting demons from his pastOh, he's shifting away Oh, he's
slipping away An angel coveredin ash a seat on a sidewalk

(34:18):
corner with a rosary I sit nextto a cardboard sign that said
one more dollar to save my lifebut the feeling that I get when
old Williams gets a tip at afour way light he'll soon forget
cause the only little thingupon his mind is just one more
dollar for a needle in a line Isit in So that's typically not

(35:28):
the kind of music I would play.

Susan Hickman (35:30):
I know, but I like it.
That's so good.
The stuff that makes you feel.
I don't know.
I write a lot of breakup songsor slow songs and stuff like
that.
So it's hard for me to do theupbeat kind of stuff.
So I love it.
That was good.
That was real good.

Seth Candan (35:48):
Thank you.

Susan Hickman (35:49):
Yeah.
And when did you write that?

Seth Candan (35:52):
Shoot, that was in 2014, 13, 14.

Susan Hickman (35:56):
You see, you need to record that.

Seth Candan (35:58):
Yeah, so there's a lot still I've got to...
Chew the dust off those papersand

Susan Hickman (36:03):
kind of

Seth Candan (36:03):
pull them out.

Susan Hickman (36:04):
How many do you think you have?
Oh,

Seth Candan (36:06):
man.
A lot.
A lot.

Susan Hickman (36:09):
A lot that are probably finished or, like, this
close to being finished?

Seth Candan (36:13):
That's hard.
So there's so many songs that Ialways seem to have the first
verse, the chorus, the secondverse, the chorus is, of course,
but...
It always seems like that finalchapter, I can never shut the
door.
To

Susan Hickman (36:26):
bridge or not to bridge.

Seth Candan (36:28):
Or to bridge it or not to bridge it, yeah.
Because at the end, should Imake it a third verse or not?
You know, there was a songcalled...
Well, I'll tell you anotherlittle story.
So I grew up Southern Baptist.
I'm from Alvin.
But my family is what I like tocall hypocrite Baptists, okay?

(36:51):
Mm-hmm.
And I'll tell you right now, soI've been talking a lot, and
I'm running for city council nowin politics.
That's a whole differentsubject we'll get into later on.

Susan Hickman (37:00):
Drink your hot toddy.

Seth Candan (37:01):
So I'm drinking a hot toddy.
I've been talking and talkingand walking and knocking.

Susan Hickman (37:06):
No, it's okay.
It's good.
It's good.
I know the story you're aboutto tell, and seriously, this is
one of my favorite songs,favorite stories.

Seth Candan (37:15):
We used to go to Huntsville, and my cousins and
I, we used to go to Huntsville,Texas, and...
My grandma, when we'd get thereas kids, she didn't have a lot
of money, but we had all thegrandchildren, you know, and all
the cousins.
So she'd make us go for artsand crafts, go get a twig off
the tree, and then we wouldpaint it.

(37:36):
Little did we know, that wasswitches for our ass, okay?
But she was a Baptist, and shefollowed the rules, and she did
not drink.
But inside the refrigerator inmy grandma's house...
It looked like a peroxidebottle, almost a vanilla extract
bottle.
And inside of it was whiskey,honey, and lemon.

(37:59):
But that was her cough syrup,honey.
And she doesn't drink becauseshe's Baptist, but she was sick
365 days a year.
Oh,

Susan Hickman (38:12):
my gosh.
That's amazing.

Seth Candan (38:14):
And she wouldn't dance, but she would stand up
and she'd wiggle her hips if sheliked the music.
But she did move her feet, soshe wasn't dancing.
She always walked that fineline.

Susan Hickman (38:26):
It's like the technicality, right?
Oh, my gosh.
So you wrote that song, but itwasn't quite finished.
And Sandy June ended uprecording it.

Seth Candan (38:37):
So Sandy June came.
She's awesome.
Her and Ed Bradley invited meto their house, and they said,
Seth, is there any kind of songsthat you've been working on?
We're going to get Sandy anew...
We're coming out with a newrecord, and...
I told him that story.
I said, here's one that I juststarted working on about my
cousins and I.
It's called Homemade Remedy.
It just kind of talks about howno one's perfect.

(39:02):
Don't be afraid of who you are.
Just be you in life, whateveryou do.
And if you believe in God, youbelieve in God.
I was saying this one timeafter a show and A guy walked up
to me and said, you know, Jesusdidn't hang out with the best
of the best in the world.
He hung out with the sinnersand the tax collectors and

(39:25):
prostitute.
And that's, you know, who Jesussurrounded himself with.
So don't worry about what youdo.
That's what you, if you followthe good Lord, you follow the
good Lord.
Amen to that.
So I wrote this song calledHomemade Remedy.
And she helped me finish offthe rest of the song.
And it got up to, I think, 16on the Texas music charts on the
radio.

Susan Hickman (39:45):
Yeah.

Seth Candan (39:54):
It's the cousins and I that go to church on
Sunday Drunk as a loop, our copsserve honey On Grandma's
homemade remedy I'm a late nightgamblin' with the drunks and
junkies Find me out back, smokesome funky Live a life just as

(40:17):
happy as I can be I'm not thekind of guy ¶¶ ¶¶ ¶¶ We'll be

(40:58):
right back.

(41:34):
Southern bells and hippies Andgood old country boys Hell
raised in the Dixie Where thepastors greet the gold We love
barbecue and Jesus And coldbeer, tea and wine My faith

(41:54):
won't crucify me If I sin, hell,I'll be fine I testify I go to
church on Sunday, drunk as aloop, cops are punting, I'm

(42:25):
grandma's homemade remedy.
I'm a late night gambling withthe drunks and the junkies, they
find me out bad, smokingsomething funky, living life
just as happy as I can be.
This is because of yeah

Susan Hickman (42:47):
that's what I'm talking about so you mentioned
you know Sandy June she you knowshe recorded that and she put
it out and she you know wrote averse right didn't she write a
verse to it yeah

Seth Candan (42:59):
I didn't do it on this one

Susan Hickman (43:00):
yeah yeah but are you gonna are you gonna record
that one

Seth Candan (43:03):
I don't know.
I don't think so.

Susan Hickman (43:05):
Really?
I'm surprised, because, I mean,you do that so well, and
that's, like, something thatyou, like, wrote from, like,
personal experience.
I don't know.
It's weird.
Like, you write songs, youknow, that you don't necessarily
think you're ever going toreally do something with them,
and then, you know, if you havesomebody that's, you know, comes
along and wants to take thatstory and run with it, that's

(43:28):
really cool, but I don't know.
I...
I think that there's a lot ofpeople that would want to hear
that.

Seth Candan (43:34):
I know.
Yeah.
That's why I'm thinking SusanHickman should record this one,
huh?
I found after leaving the musicindustry for a while and
working, and I found truehappiness is just, it's not
always about being a chicken onthe stage or just trying to go
out there and play.
To me, I found really joy, tome, it was just music in itself.

(43:57):
Because when I came back toplay again, it wasn't about
chasing or going to the Grammysor putting stuff on my Facebook
or going...
It was because I truly, trulymissed it.
And I really love writing andplaying music.
And to me, that's all I love.
And songwriting, to me, it'stherapeutic.
I like to write.

(44:17):
Jim's a hell of a writer, too,right there.
That's a hidden gem right therein Alvin.
I'm telling you.
And...
Trey over here too just showedme a cool song he's in the
audience just showed me somereally cool idea just about how

(44:38):
intertwining with social mediaand life and how love these days
how people approach I said manthat's just a genuine genius
idea so there's so much talentout there you know so just
embark it chase it and ride itjust because if you don't it's
just going to get lost right so

Susan Hickman (44:54):
when there's a lot of people that never even
put their thoughts down on paperor you know say them out loud
into existence and it's like manwhat a shame right like if you
have it I mean I'm not sayingthat you know go pursue
something that you don't want topursue if that's not your thing
but I know so many talentedpeople that either can write or
they can sing and they don't doanything with it and to each

(45:16):
their own But I know I would beabsolutely devastated if I
couldn't do what I love everysingle day.
And you know, everybody hastheir own thing, right?
Like my sister, for instance.
My sister is an amazing singer.
She's a really good writer.
Beautiful piano player.
And she has no desire to dothat whatsoever.
Her calling in life is workingwith animals.

(45:39):
But it's so baffling to me.
It's like, you have this gift.
And she's like, but my gift isover here.
And I'm like...
okay, all right, all right,just teach me things.
I don't know, but it's weird tothink about, right?
Because it's like, man, peoplehave so many different facets,
and they have so many differentgifts, and I just want everybody

(46:01):
to, like, full potential, like,just do everything.
But, yeah, you're not supposedto have to do everything.

Seth Candan (46:09):
No, I...

Susan Hickman (46:12):
There is a song in all the animals.
Yes, there is.
There is song in all theanimals, for sure.

Seth Candan (46:18):
There's just something always to be written
about.
And to me, I think two thingsthat make me happy besides my
daughter is, weird as it sounds,being in heavy equipment and
playing piano or guitar.
That's one of my getaways,right?
Everyone has their getaway.
May it be working on a car.
May it be working in thegarden.
Shopping.

(46:40):
Some girls love to go shopping.
Everybody has their own thing.
Just like every single personhas a self-insecurity about
themselves.
No matter who you are, the mostbeautiful person in the world,
everyone's going to have aninsecurity about themselves, and
they always got a safe place togo that they like to do and get
away.
Maybe trawling, riding,shopping, whatever.

(47:02):
So mine is to write music and Ilove that and I love to be in
heavy equipment and I love beinga dad and I just didn't see
that happening as much and beinghappy being on the road and
touring.
I am getting back to playingmusic on the weekends that I do
want to play and meeting thepeople and doing things as of

(47:24):
tonight but I don't see myselfembarking on a tour in the
future.
I don't see that.
I do see myself coming out witha record Let people listen to
the music that I wrote.
And if someone like yourselfwants to cover something, I
would be honored.
I

Susan Hickman (47:38):
mean, we've talked so long about getting
together and writing.
We've never really done it.
We've exchanged some ideas backand forth, but we've never
actually said, we're going tomeet at this place and this
time, and we're going to writesongs.
And we really do need to,because between you and I and
Leo and so many of the otherpeople that we know, they're

(47:59):
very talented people.
There's no excuse.
No excuse.
Other than the fact that we areso busy that we can't even keep
up with anything.
But it's just, you make timefor the things that you want to
make time for, and I feel likewe should make time for that,
for sure.
Because it's been heavy on mymind for a long time.
And yeah, I think it'd bereally cool.

(48:20):
It looks like you found abalance, though.
I'm really proud of you, andI'm glad that you...
There's a lot of people thathaven't found that balance.
Like you have your workbalance, your home life, your
life with your daughter and yourgirl and the music.
I mean, do you think you have,you know, now you're running for

(48:42):
a public office.
You have the stage, so youmight as well talk about that
and try to rally some votes.

Seth Candan (48:49):
No, so how politics happened, it was we were in Key
West, and our commissioner,Ryan Cade for RC Ranch, was
talking to me, and with us andour family being in construction
development, and we startedtalking a little bit about dirt
and retention ponds.
And I do a lot of the stuffthat we're doing on the dirt

(49:09):
division now coming forward thathe said, hey, I want to appoint
you.
You should be on the touristboard committee, which is tax
increment reinforcement zoning.
And right now in Houston, it'sa big, pivotal, huge time right
now where it's just, we grew upwith the 610 around us.
And then we had Bellway 8 inthe 90s, you know, and then

(49:30):
early 2000s.
Then we have now Toll Road 99coming through Alvin.
That's wild.
It was me playing all thismusic and guitar.
I think in life, it's about whoyou know in this world.
And right now, Alvin's such asmall town.
And it's sad to say thateveryone in this town that's
growing is shopping in Webster,Friendswood, Pearland.

(49:54):
We only got a Home Depot there,just a Murdoch's, and we've got
on the outskirts and everythingin, 60,000 people, 27,000,
28,000 in this actual citylimits, but so much on the
outskirts.
And we don't even have a liquorstore.
We don't have any shopping.
Girls don't go anywhere to getUlta products.
And I was telling y'all a storyearlier that my friend Steve

(50:17):
Alvis owns New Quest Properties,and he does the same shopping
centers as like Targets and BestBuys and TJ Maxx's, and he told
me, Seth, hey, we would love tohave something in Alvin to help
produce sales tax revenue foryou guys.
And I talked to him, our mayorgave about it, and he said,
Seth, I think you'd be perfectto run for city council.

(50:39):
You know a lot of people, andit would be important.
So I started working with ourEDC director, our economic
development coordinator.
And it happened to be there'sthis little farm that's in our
town called Froberg's.
I don't know if you've everheard of it.
Yes.
And Highway 6 is having thisconcrete medians that are going

(51:01):
up and down Highway 6.
And right between Chick-fil-Aand Home Depot, they have these
concrete medians.
And Unfortunate for Mr.
Froberg, they were going to putthese concrete medians going
all the way up to where it'scalled County Road 149 where
Knights of Columbus is at.
So everyone from Santa Fecoming into Alvin on Froberg's

(51:24):
would have to go all the way up.
and turn around, and I thoughtthat was a big safety issue.
So Froberg is a commissioner ofAlvin, and he tried to get that
passed to get a cutout, butthey weren't going to give it to
him because he wasn't a HomeDepot or a big sector.
And TxDOT and Angleton saidit's protocol, you can't do it,
plus you're an ag.
There's a bunch of reasons whythey wouldn't give him that

(51:46):
cutout.
So I happened to be just atCountry Music.
Tracy said, hey, Seth's goodfriends with the chairman of
TxDOT.
So I reached out to Steve Alvisand Andrew, and Andrew came
down four days later, and hetalked to the engineering
department of the state of Texasand said, hey, this is more of
a danger that if cars were linedup, someone's going to get

(52:08):
killed and that they need acutout.
So then the tech stop people inAngleton reached back out, I
guess, to the Foebergs and said,you know, how did you get that?
You overrode the system.
I don't even have theconnections to our chairman.
Well, some Texas country guynamed Seth Cannon got that done
for us, and he would have to payfor it.
So I thought that right thenand there, if I could do my

(52:30):
music and have theserelationships and connections to
get things done in our city...
then I'm going to utilize thoseconnections.
And with the mayor and thecommissioner and a lot of strong
people in our city backing meup, I think I'll do good for the
city.
So I'm happy to be involved.
And I want it to grow in theright direction.
And I'm excited to do so.

Susan Hickman (52:51):
Well,

Seth Candan (52:51):
congratulations.

Susan Hickman (52:55):
That's a very cool chapter that you've got
going.
I remember that when all ofthis kind of started and like,
hey, you know, this is what'sgoing on.
And my man, you're really,you're making all the
connections.
And it really is about who, youknow, like the, the older that
I get, the more I realize, man,you know, just cultivating those
relationships with people.

(53:16):
I mean, all you got to do isjust open your mouth and talk,
you know, and people who want toknow you are going to know you
and you're going to figure outhow to, you know, build your
strengths up and you're, youknow, oh, I'm weak over here.
How can I help you over here?
And it's not even like it's inmusic.
It's in politics.
It's in, you know, any kind ofbusiness.

(53:37):
So it's very cool to see howthat all works out because you
never know if you don't justopen your mouth and talk about
it.

Seth Candan (53:44):
For sure.
And I think we really do needbusinesses in our town because
people always come in withideas.
Oh, let's fix these roads here.
Let's do this.
But really, we just have nomoney.
There's no budget.
And when I found out thattalking to the councilman and
the mayor that they live off anykind of job or any kind of

(54:04):
household that they have billslike everybody else.
And at the end of the year,it's dwindled down to what they
have very little.
So if you want for the firstresponders in these law
enforcement to have betterequipment, if you want the roads
fixed, if you want property taxto be lower for what the city's
to defecize the cost on thosethings, you need money.

(54:27):
And the only way to get that issales tax revenue.
And we need to start havingpeople shopping.
And the houses keep coming up,and we need economic growth to
sustain that.
So it's important.

Susan Hickman (54:37):
Bringing those businesses back to your
hometown.

Seth Candan (54:41):
To stay local, shopping Alvin.
And I think we can get it doneif I were to be elected.
So

Susan Hickman (54:48):
with the connections.
So when is the...

Seth Candan (54:51):
Shoot, we've been getting after it.
So early election is April 22ndthrough the 29th, and then
election day is May 3rd, alsothe same day as Kentucky Derby.
So we're having a two-day racecampaign election party in
Alvin.
We'll be there.
And Alvin, I got a specialsurprise guest coming down from

(55:12):
Austin to play at my electionparty.
Yeah.
To see what happens.

Susan Hickman (55:16):
That's exciting.
And actually, Heather's on thatone too, huh?
She is.

Seth Candan (55:21):
Heather

Susan Hickman (55:22):
Raylene.
That's my best friend.
She's going to be over there.
Yeah, she was telling me aboutit.
She's like, Seth got me to playa show.
I was like, yes, that'sexciting.
I

Seth Candan (55:32):
love it.
Cool.
You know, Danny and the partieswe do for Christmas times and
stuff.

Unknown (55:37):
Yeah.

Seth Candan (55:39):
Chrissy and Heather kind of just kicked it off, and
we were just talking aboutKentucky Derby, and we saw her
and the horses.
And at first, we were justgoing to do a Kentucky Derby
party, and then I realized, oh,shoot, it's the election day
too, so now we've got to collidethem.
But it's a play on play becauseit's a race, and it's a race.

Susan Hickman (55:56):
That's fantastic.
I love that.
I got called to do a KentuckyDerby party at the racetrack.
It didn't work out, but I wasthinking, man, how fun would it
be to dress up and do the crazyhats?
And I've never done anythinglike that before.
I was like, oh, that soundslike so much fun.
So hopefully I'll get anothersomething for that.
But yeah, I was like, thatwould be perfect at Sam Houston

(56:20):
Race Park.
And then, but...
Didn't work out.
It was going to be a full bandshow.

Seth Candan (56:26):
Are you booked on the 3rd?

Susan Hickman (56:28):
I don't know.
I'll have to look.

Seth Candan (56:30):
We've got to talk about it after the show.
Yeah.
Because I thought I asked

Susan Hickman (56:34):
you.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't think so.
But anyway, we play togetherall the time.
You've got to have some freshblood in there.
For sure.
Play these people another song.
What do you think?

Seth Candan (56:46):
Okay.

Susan Hickman (56:47):
And then we have some questions from the audience
that we'll get to, and we'llsee if we can stump Seth on any
of these.

Seth Candan (57:01):
Excuse my throat.
It is a little dry, but I'll dothat one I was telling you
about.
I don't have a title on it yet.

Unknown (57:14):
Okay.

Seth Candan (57:18):
Go out of line Underneath the willow Break out
the wine Let the night roll Downby the river Down where the
river rolls So take our timeBye.

(57:49):
All are silver lining If we'reall just unwinding Down by the

(59:03):
river Down where the river rollsDown where the muddy water
washes All the darkness of mysoul

Susan Hickman (01:00:12):
the one that always gets stuck in my head
always

Seth Candan (01:00:15):
put it on the next record

Susan Hickman (01:00:16):
yes please please okay so we're gonna we're gonna
okay so we're gonna ask somequestions i can't read we're the
you know what but i'm gonna tryi'm blind too um okay so paula
wants to know who is yourbiggest uh influence music wise

(01:00:38):
um

Seth Candan (01:00:38):
J.J.
Gray Mofro is a big influencethat I like.
He's an artist out ofLouisiana.
But at the same time, I wouldhave to say Credence Clearwater
Revival

Susan Hickman (01:00:52):
on the back side.
There you go.
So who was the first one yousaid?

Seth Candan (01:00:56):
J.J.
Gray.

Susan Hickman (01:00:57):
I don't know who that is.

Seth Candan (01:00:59):
Changed my royalties from Louisiana.
I came out with a record calledLackaloosa.
And there's a song called TheWrong Side, Wrong Side of the
Tracks, and I covered that songon my second record.
And he's been my unicorn.
Every time I've tried to seethis guy perform, something's
happened.
I bought tickets in SanAntonio.

(01:01:20):
He canceled.
I went to go see him down inLake Jackson one time at this
very rare private event, and Igot crazy sick and I couldn't
make it.
And then there was a time whenhe was in Austin, and just
things didn't work out.
I bought the tickets andcouldn't go.
So still haven't got to see himplay.
He did confirm for me to cuthis song on my last record, but

(01:01:42):
really like him.
Cool, cool, cool music.
It's a very Louisiana, southernrock, blues, J.J.
Gray.

Susan Hickman (01:01:48):
Is it somebody that you have been following for
a really long time, or is itlater on in your career that you
kind of...

Seth Candan (01:01:54):
Not too long.
I'd say probably like 15 years,8 months, and 6 days.

Susan Hickman (01:01:58):
Okay.
Not specific at all.
That's funny.
Let's see here.
Trey wants to know, who are youmost influenced by besides
family when you start withlyrics...
Oh, these are two separate...
Who are you most influenced bybesides?
Well, that's kind of the samequestion.

(01:02:19):
I didn't read these beforehand,as you can tell.
Do you start with lyrics ormusic when songwriting?

Seth Candan (01:02:27):
Okay, yeah.
So the song that I played foryou tonight was the only song
that I've ever played.
First off, live.
I've done it in a household,but I've never played that
Angels Covered in Ash live at abar.
It's the only song I ever in mycareer wrote without music.

Susan Hickman (01:02:44):
Ooh.

Seth Candan (01:02:45):
So I always write music first.
And the reason why is becausewhen you write a melody to a
song, then you know how you'refeeling, right?
You know, you're not going tosing a heartbroken song.
You know, you're not going tojust, you know, you want to have
some...

Susan Hickman (01:03:01):
Set the tone, set the mood.
Right, and then

Seth Candan (01:03:03):
you can kind of feel it.

Susan Hickman (01:03:05):
Yeah.

Seth Candan (01:03:06):
So I always write the melody first.
And to me...
I always try to write somethingthat feels good or catchy
because my grandma always usedto tell me, you know, if you
don't have your foot to it oryou can't feel it, they ain't
going to follow.
And you got just that shortwindow at the very beginning for
them to catch that.

Susan Hickman (01:03:23):
Yeah, like that three seconds, right?
I think that's what they say itis nowadays.
Like everybody's got like theTikTok and the this and the
that.
Are

Seth Candan (01:03:30):
we talking about music?

Susan Hickman (01:03:31):
Yeah.
Okay.
Yeah.
No, but like if you'relistening to something, like
they say...
Back in the day when I wasshopping records and trying to
get a record deal, which, youknow, that's crazy.
They said if you can't capturesomebody's attention in three
seconds, they're just going tomove on to the next thing.

Seth Candan (01:03:50):
That's right.

Susan Hickman (01:03:50):
But nowadays, I mean, I feel like it's just
constant.
I mean, people absorb music nowfrom social media.
A lot of that, they're findingthat kind of...
you know, what they like tolisten to on social media
because there's so much outthere.
But it's just constant scroll,scroll, scroll.
And everybody's scrolling withthe phone off or the sound off.

(01:04:11):
And so it's interesting.
Like, how do you...
Like, back in the day, like, wealways, you know, we had CDs
and records and...

Seth Candan (01:04:20):
See, and to me on the radio...

Susan Hickman (01:04:21):
LimeWire.
On

Seth Candan (01:04:23):
the radio, you hear the same stuff all the time.
It's just that strumming, youknow, people just singing.
And so when I hear music...
I want to feel, like that lastsong.
So when you get that on radio,you hear that?
You know, just that.
I want to feel it, right?
So you got that.
That's how I like to write mymusic.

Susan Hickman (01:04:44):
That's cool.

Seth Candan (01:04:45):
Good question.

Susan Hickman (01:04:45):
I actually start with my lyrics first.
Really?
Well, so I'll hear, I'll playsome songs.
I know Leo does this too.
I'll play little things inbetween so there's no dead air,
because I hate dead air whenyou're trying to do a show.
I'll play little things inbetween while I'm talking or
whatnot, and a lot of times I dothe same thing, and I'm like, I

(01:05:09):
want to turn that into a song,but I never do, hardly ever.
I mean, I have before, but veryrarely do I actually turn it
into a song.
But it's interesting.
I hear things like playing withLeo or playing with Don Vickers
or playing with people that arejust really monster guitar
players.
Even you, you're an awesomeguitar player.

(01:05:32):
Your vibe is very cool and it'svery different.
But when I hear those differentthings, it sparks something and
I'm like, I want to write tothat.
But very rarely do I ever comeup with the...
Melody first, so that'sinteresting.
Yeah, everybody has their own.
Question for Seth.

(01:05:53):
How do you know Heather Atwood?
Did she write that?
Did you write that, Heather?
Where are you?
I don't know.
How

Seth Candan (01:06:02):
do I know Heather Atwood?

Susan Hickman (01:06:03):
Yeah, that's a question.

Seth Candan (01:06:04):
Heather Atwood is a long-time French.
No, you

Susan Hickman (01:06:09):
know Heather.
No, Mason McMurray.
Wrote that.
That's funny.

Seth Candan (01:06:14):
Mason McMurray.
Mason, I met Heather a longtime ago.
Heather's always been along-time good friend.
She's a fun, outgoing, seemslike she knows everybody.
Very cool chick, yeah.

Susan Hickman (01:06:27):
I've known her for a little bit, too.
She's awesome.
Ashley wants to know, whoinspires you?
your sound or inspires you ingeneral?
Well, shoot.
Y'all all have the same kind ofquestions.
That's pretty similar.
God, too.

Seth Candan (01:06:43):
I love

Susan Hickman (01:06:44):
good love.
I'll read these beforehand soit doesn't look like I don't
know what I'm doing.
I don't know what I'm doing,actually.
I'm just learning as I go.

Seth Candan (01:06:51):
Second

Susan Hickman (01:06:51):
podcast.

Seth Candan (01:06:53):
No, I'm just kidding.

Susan Hickman (01:06:54):
You know, I'm going to– so, Christina, back to
your city council.
What are your goals if you getelected to city council?
Like, what would you do?
What would you do first?
What would you do second?
Like, I know you talked aboutsome of the stuff that you're
trying to get done right now,but once you're in, like, what
are your main goals?

Seth Candan (01:07:12):
Just start bringing in some restaurants and
businesses, and I think thatAlvin is very much lacking it,
and we have a problem, which wehave a forum on Thursday– But
we've had a couple differentbusinesses that left out, and
they're coming in.
There's a beer garden that'sone next to the bar wash.
Oh,

Susan Hickman (01:07:31):
yeah, we played there.
Yeah.
Yeah.

Seth Candan (01:07:33):
They were coming in, and they left.
There was a couple of otherthings that just happened
throughout the town.
And don't get me wrong, thecity council, the people that
are in there now that arestaying are awesome, and the
mayor is really cool.
He's good friends with Chrissyand I, and he's always at the
house, and we're good buds.
And we're all on the same page.
We want the city to growtogether, and I think that, like

(01:07:55):
I said, it's very rare.
that a person has a connectionthat actually knows a chairman
of TxDOT, right?
You might know someone whoworks at the office in Angleton,
but there's one in every countyin the state.
But to know the main person whoruns every highway and road in
the whole state of Texas from ElPaso to Orange to Amarillo to
Laredo and go to his ranch andhave that relationship is going
to be crucial when Toll Road 99comes in and business growth as

(01:08:19):
well.
So I think businesses andrestaurants ask the question to
answer it.

Susan Hickman (01:08:24):
Well, we do need more restaurants, that's for
sure.

Seth Candan (01:08:26):
Everyone loves to eat.
Everyone loves to eat and shop.
Stay local.

Susan Hickman (01:08:29):
So are you still in Alvin?
You're obviously, like, ifyou're...

Seth Candan (01:08:32):
Alvin District D.

Susan Hickman (01:08:33):
Yeah, very good.
That's awesome.
So how do all of these finefolks find you?
Do you have a website?
Do you have social media?

Seth Candan (01:08:42):
Social media, Facebook, Snapchat, Instagram,
Seth Candon, S-E-T-H,C-A-N-D-A-N.
um good question i don't knowif that i would think uh why do
you have the last name caroscoon there and and you go by seth
cannon it's because when i wasyounger i uh i realized there

(01:09:05):
was this awesome guitarist the70s and 80s named joe king
carosco and he used to play withall kinds of people stevie ray
vaughn and did did his wholedifferent things back in the day
that for even cheatham streetwarehouse with kent finley and
My dad happens to be Joe, notJoe King Carrasco, though he
thinks he's a king, and I didn'twant to have to explain that to

(01:09:28):
a bunch of radio stations everytime.
Oh, are you related to Joe KingCarrasco?
My dad's Joe, but he's not.
So I just stuck with SethCandan.
But now coming back in anddoing politics is Seth Candan
Carrasco.

Susan Hickman (01:09:39):
Where did Candan?

Seth Candan (01:09:40):
It's my middle name.

Susan Hickman (01:09:41):
Oh, it is?
Okay.

Seth Candan (01:09:43):
I know a lot of people do that, you know, like
Stoney LaRue Phillips or BartCrowe Isaac or, yeah.

Susan Hickman (01:09:49):
Yeah, my middle name is Lynette, so that was
really, really country.
She's Lynette.
Yeah, but then I've gotHickman, which is also really
country, but it is what it is.
Well, yeah, follow him on allthe things.
When this episode comes out,we're going to link all of your
socials and all of that stuff sopeople can find you and they

(01:10:10):
can find your music.
And make sure that you– we dohave a tip jar out here, so make
sure– If you've enjoyed theshow, all the tips go to Seth.
And one more time, please giveit up for Seth Candan.
Coco's on the canal.

Seth Candan (01:10:23):
Thank you all so much.

Susan Hickman (01:10:24):
For partnering on this lovely endeavor that I so
crazily decided to start in themiddle of my crazy life.
But do you want to close us outwith a song?

Seth Candan (01:10:35):
Sure.
Yeah,

Susan Hickman (01:10:36):
I would love to close it.
One more time, Seth Candan,everybody.
All right.
Thank you so much for beinghere.

Seth Candan (01:10:42):
Thank you.
Thank you, Coco on the Canal,and Drew for filming, and all
you guys for hanging out.

Susan Hickman (01:10:51):
Yeah, Drew Mitchell, everybody.
He's the man behind the camera.
You don't see him on thecamera, but he's here.
He's making this happen.

Seth Candan (01:11:02):
So, my buddy Phillip Scalise was...
He served three combat toursfrom Iraq and Afghanistan, and
he was married to a girl namedColette Scalise, and she became
a nurse.
When she came home, they had adaughter named Kylan, and they
ended up separating, and I wasliving in New Braunfels at the

(01:11:23):
time.
I shouldn't have probably saidall the personal information or
their names, but he came to NewBraunfels, and he was kind of
going through a rough patch, andI said, Phillip, why don't you
get up here, come visit me for acouple days, and get away.
And so he came up there, and aswe were cruising around, going

(01:11:45):
by Schlitterbahn in town andgoing up River Road, he just
kept saying, man, everything Ikeep looking at, everything I
keep seeing and doing, it's thesame memories I've had with my
family.
You know, it's 100 miles away,and you still can't get away.
You know, it's...
And I told him, just pour you adrink, light up a smoke, and
that was kind of it.

(01:12:05):
And I knew right then and thereI was going to write a song
about it.
I never recorded this orpitched it out to anybody, but
I'll close this out for youguys.

(01:12:44):
of my bags Moved on out of townDay by day I still see things
that bring you around I guess Idid it all I can't let you go
All memories never fade Ahundred miles from you I still

(01:13:13):
can't get away.
I'm gonna pull me a drink.
It's like a romance.
Yeah, the hardest part isalways letting go Doing well,

(01:14:22):
happiness and grace.
Hope your heart calls the pathto love.

(01:14:53):
Jack.

Susan Hickman (01:15:48):
Seth Candan, everybody.
Thank you so much.
Coco's on the canal.
Thank you all for being here.
Just want to let you know thatnext Tuesday we have Trent Cowie
here, and he's fantastic.
He's from up north a little bitfrom here, about an hour and a
half away, and he does some hardwork.
Hard Rock Country.

(01:16:09):
If you've never heard himbefore, he's fantastic.
So I highly recommend you behere every single Tuesday.
But obviously, come back nextTuesday.
And we are looking forsponsors.
So put that out there to keepthis going.
It is pretty costly.
So...
We want to make sure that we'regrowing this, you know, the

(01:16:30):
singer-songwriter communityhere.
Not only just local, but, youknow, we're wanting to bring in
some other people.
Maybe some that you've heardbefore.
Maybe some that you haven't.
But, yeah, once again, makesure you, you know, be here
every Tuesday.
And once again.

Seth Candan (01:16:47):
Thank you for having me, Susan.
Yeah, love you, friend.
Thank you, Coco.
Yeah, we'll see you next time.
Thank you guys for coming out.
Thank you.
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