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August 16, 2022 35 mins

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  • Bob is one of the greatest community builders that Drew has ever met.
  • Bob was born and raised in Minneapolis, MN. He grew up in a somewhat dysfunctional home in a dysfunctional neighborhood. He grew up in church and served in a large church with a youth group of more than 500 students. 
  • He poured a decade of his life into the students at that church and feels very proud of the role he played in the lives of all those students.
  • They later adopted their daughter and realized he needed to do something different with his life to take care of his family. At that point, he felt a bit disregarded by the church.
  • They took about a five-year break from the church before becoming re-involved at a local church.
  • Bob now describes himself as a "Free Agent" if any churches are listening...
  • Bob served at a church where it seemed that the pastor was building his brand. We discuss how this is becoming a more common issue in churches throughout the United States and contrast it with Biblical stories of leaders making much of Jesus and minimizing their role.



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