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March 15, 2022 43 mins

In This Episode: 

  • We talk about how comparison to other churches and their ministries drives a lot of churches to overwork their staff in order to "compete" with other churches.
  • We talk about what the solution may look like for a lacking volunteer program that doesn't make volunteers feel like they are cared for.
  • We talk about how many people you can effectively care for... a study by Brown university said it was 10 people. The problem is we often forget to count our family, children, and loved ones.
  • Mary Anne talked about an issue she faced when suggesting that a church needed to have two leaders for each volunteer team to properly care for the team.  
  • Our social media is set up for vulnerability, authenticity, and community, and really our goal is that you would feel comfortable sharing your story, or maybe even what you're struggling with in this season. We want to come around you. We want to support you. We want to lift your arms up and pray for you any way we can.
  • We spend the second part of the show talking about tension.
  • Drew shares moments he hasn't been at his best and what he learned from those situations.
  • One way to help manage tension in situation is start by remembering you're on the same team, wearing the same jersey.
  • Drew shares the approach of FBC which is like a cheat code for difficult conversations (modified from a Simon Sinek talk.)
    • Feelings
    • Behaviors
    • Concerns
    • I feel like... Explain the behaviors that are creating tension... my concern is... and then STOP TALKING and listen.
  • Drew gives examples on how to use this technique. 

Quotes from This Episode: 

  • As leaders, our first priority is not growth. Reaching people? Sure. But don't miss the team that's right in front of your face. If you get the culture right with your team, growth will be a byproduct of that. ~ Drew Barker
  • COVID isn't the problem for churches. It revealed the problem. ~ Mary Anne Sibley
  • You can get through any WHAT if your WHY is strong enough. ~ Drew Barker


Episode Sponsor: 

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