In this powerful episode of Hope Unlocked, Kristin Kurtz welcomes Holly Misener, founder of His Healing House, to share her journey of faith, family, and pioneering spirit-led wellness. Holly launched a business-ministry that addresses the root causes of illness — combining deliverance, inner healing, nutrition response testing, somatic bodywork, and therapeutic services like red light therapy, salt therapy, PEMF mats, and so much more. Discover how God brings total healing — body, mind, and spirit. This may be the breakthrough you’ve been praying for.
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Speaker 1 (00:16):
Welcome to the Hope Unlocked podcast.
I'm your host, kristen Kurtz,and I'm also the founder of New
Wings Coaching.
I help and empower wildheartedand adventurous women of faith
feeling caged and stuck, unlocktheir true purpose and potential
, break free from limitationsand thrive with confidence,
courage and hope.
If you're curious to learn moreabout coaching with me, head to
newwingscoachingnet and be sureto explore the show notes for
(00:38):
ways to connect with me further.
Get ready to dive in as weuncover empowering keys and
insights in this episode.
So tune in and let's unlockhope together.
Welcome to the Hope Unlockedpodcast.
I'm Kristen Kurtz, your host.
I pray this episode is like aholy IV of hope for your soul.
Please help me.
Welcome Holly Meisner to theshow.
I am so thrilled to have her ontoday.
(00:59):
I don't even know what I cansay to start this out, to just
honor her and the ways that theLord has truly brought her on my
path as of about six months ago, and it was through I think it
was through LinkedIn, to behonest with you, which is not my
favorite place to be, but weshow up places that he leads us
(01:21):
and through that first meeting Iwas just like, oh my gosh, this
girl's on fire and I want toknow more about her.
And through that he led me toexperience just amazing
spiritual and physical healingthrough her business and I would
call it a business tree, hishealing house.
(01:43):
So I want to let you take thisaway.
Holly, could you share a littlebit about yourself before we
get started?
Speaker 2 (01:49):
Yeah, thank you, kristen.
I know it's kind of funny thatwe met on LinkedIn, I know, and
then connected, had a connectcall and then had mutual friends
and the Lord kept bringing ourpaths back together.
So it's an honor to be on yourpodcast and it's an honor just
to get to know you more.
Yeah, let's see a little bitabout myself.
(02:11):
I live in Lake Elmo.
I do own my business.
I love that business ministry.
What did you call it?
Business, a business tree?
Yeah, that's like a good word.
You should point that.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
I think I got it from somebody else.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
I can't take credit, but I like using it.
Yes, that's a good word.
I have four kids.
I live in Lake Elmo.
I own my wellness companycalled His Healing House.
We opened a year ago andabsolutely love what I do here.
Um, I love um, wellness,prevention, healing, all those
things and so I opened thecompany.
Actually, my passion for mycompany, a mission for the
(02:55):
company, really came out of myown family's personal story of
not living well and um and notthriving and living in freedom.
So I have four kids and two ofmy four kids have really serious
, complex medical issues.
I'm a 21-year-old well, let'ssee 22, 20, 17, and 14.
(03:17):
And real quick.
But just to give an idea of myfamily's health journey that
brought me into a wellnesscompany is my 19-year-old now,
or 20 or 20 year old he.
When he was 18 months old, hewas diagnosed with a rare spine
defect that was causing hisspine to collapse onto his chest
cavity and told us that he, uh,without major intervention he
(03:38):
wouldn't live over the age of 10because he wouldn't have room
for his heart and lungs to grow.
Um, we, we did his first majorsurgery and he had surgery every
three months for about fiveyears, and then there was
complications.
So then it spread out to everysix months by the time we got to
10, the good news is is that itwasn't life-threatening anymore
(04:00):
.
They got enough room in hisheart and lungs.
But so many surgeries, so muchdamage on his um, on his back,
that he had a for paralysis, ohmy gosh.
So then from there we were on along journey of just making
sure that he his spine wouldn'tget damaged, and his last major
surgery was in 2020.
It was a success and um, and sohe's he's doing well.
(04:22):
He's off at college, living hisbest life.
But, as a mom, it was a journey.
It was a journey to walk himthrough some life threatening
things for about 10 years andthen the risk of his him being
able to walk.
And then, in addition, myyoungest her name is Ellie.
She was born.
I found out when I was pregnantwith her that she was missing
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part of her right cerebellum inher brain, so she had her first
brain surgery the day she wasborn, and then she has had eight
brain surgeries in her littleshort life, 14 years, and um,
she's doing well too.
Uh, she had some of thosesurgeries.
Most of them, all eight of them, except the first one, were
emergent.
Um and she.
(05:03):
But she's doing well, but sheis globally delayed and she's
vision impaired.
She has a little seeing eyecane, but she is just a walking
joy, she is I've met her.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
I'm like better yes, he just loves.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
I know it seems like joy I know she thinks she runs
the business here, so I I cantell, yeah, she, she, and she's
a little salesperson like she.
I didn't know she took a stackof my business cards to her
school like a hundred cards andshe gave them to everybody and I
had no idea.
I picked her up one day and Isaid something like oh, we all
(05:35):
know who you are because my mom,my mom Amazing.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
She's like his healing house evangelist she
really is, she's so cute.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
So, out of all of that sickness, all of that
hardship, all of that medicaltrauma, I was on a mission, one
to save my kids lives to thedoctors.
But I felt like there was theirhealth was kind of falling
through the cracks in other waysthat weren't life-threatening.
So their digestive issues theyhad so much you know, toxic
chemical exposure, metalexposure, so many things.
(06:06):
And so about 10 years agothat's when I started really
looking at holistic ways andreally whole person approaches
to bring healing to people.
Yeah and um, then I did that,started living that lifestyle 10
years ago and then had anopportunity to work at a
holistic company, absolutelyloved it and then opened up my
own company at a holisticcompany, absolutely loved it and
then opened up my own company.
(06:27):
And so I really feel like I'mon mission to help people either
prevent, prevention, preventsome of the things that people
are dealing with in their healthfrom a holistic approach, and
also really walk alongsidepeople who are dealing with
things that maybe they feel likethe doctors are like oh, we
can't help you with anything.
They've tried every approach.
And it's interesting we seemiracles every day.
People walk in and get them.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
Yeah Well, I'm actually a walking miracle
myself, like I'm still in theprocess with you, but, um, you
know, we had a deliverancesession last Friday.
That like whole level of freedom, um, I I've shared with
somebody recently.
Like I feel like this is kindof like I heard my spirit, like
the final countdown, like thishas been such a journey for me
(07:11):
to come to this point, but Iwould love for you to share.
So I love pioneers, I lovepeople who are trailblazing and
I really feel like you, part ofwhy the first conversation we
had I was like, oh my gosh, likeI would love for you to share
what you're doing because it isso different.
You know, we know that there'sa lot of places out there that
(07:31):
do get after Rick Haas and I'vebeen immersed in some of those
places and I love researchingand do my own.
You know, I've taken myself ona journey sometimes, too, and
been like, okay, well, maybeI'll try this or this and I
would love for you to share likehow, how are you different?
Like what is it?
What does it look like forsomebody to step in your doors
(07:54):
and walk this out with hishealing house?
Speaker 2 (07:57):
Well, I mean, I really believe in marketplace
ministry, so I own my company,but really this is my ministry
and I think people are going towalk into my business and
they're walking in to getphysical healing through our
services.
But honestly, I really dobelieve there's a spiritual and
emotional aspect to healing andbecause I partner with the Holy
(08:18):
Spirit in all that we do, youknow, people are walking in and
we're able to.
You're right.
You're right like, yes, there'ssome physical things, like,
let's say, someone has adigestion issue.
Yeah, they need help to getthat moving through
nutritionally and supplement orwhatever.
But honestly, sometimes ourbowels hold on to stuff because
we're tight and we're tense andthere's trauma or there's
spiritual things and just thelord has given me and my other
(08:41):
colleague, um stephanie we bothsee clients here and just this
beautiful ability to really havediscernment and, with the gifts
of the spirit, to see um, yeah,this is a body thing, this is a
nutritional thing, but this isa spiritual thing, this is a
spiritual thing and we haveresources to help you if you're
wanting it and people want itand people feel like, yeah, the
(09:01):
doctor told me nothing's wrong,nothing's wrong, nothing's.
They can't find it, butsomething's wrong and they don't
feel heard, they don't feelvalidated.
And if you're only going todeal with it from a body
standpoint although sometimes itworks we're different because I
think we bring in the HolySpirit and we bring in the Holy
Spirit to help guide us, bothwhen we're in the room with
patients Now, not every patientis open or wants that they get
(09:23):
to decide, but we're coming withthat heart of like Holy Spirit.
What is this?
What does this client needtoday?
And give us wisdom anddiscernment, word of knowledge,
word of wisdom to treat ourpatients.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
Yes, I mean, I like I said I've been a recipient of
this and it's been mind blowingand so, beyond what I even
expected, I guess you could,like I was expectant but I
didn't know the fullness andbrevity of, like what I would
experience.
Um, could you share maybe atestimonial, without you know,
obviously without exposingclient confidentiality could you
(09:58):
share maybe a testimonial ofsomebody that you've walked with
, um, maybe even yourself, likewhat does this look like for you
to really walk this out?
Um and experience freedom on alevel that maybe you didn't
expect?
You know expect for whetherit's a client or for yourself?
Speaker 2 (10:13):
oh my gosh, there's so many, um, I don't know, what
do you want?
Do you want, like, um, aphysical testimonial?
Speaker 1 (10:20):
yeah, I mean whatever is coming to mind first, I
think, um, somebody might belike, well what?
Because when I came to yourribbon cutting which was a whole
other story that the Lord ledme to the ribbon cutting I'd
never been to a ribbon cuttingbefore Steph actually shared a
little bit about her testimonialabout hormones, and hormones
(10:40):
were really, like, highlightedto me at that point.
So hearing her testimonial wasactually part of, you know, by
the bullet, the lamb, the wordof our testimony.
So maybe somebody is listeningtoday and they're like well,
what, what could I experience bygoing there?
What is a testimonial, right?
Speaker 2 (10:58):
I have so many obviously, um, well, that's,
jeff, sure hurts, but, um, youknow a lot of what we do because
we get to the root cause.
So we deal with food, food andsensitivities, metal exposure,
toxic chemicals, um, scartissues, pandemic stuff.
And then we deal with immunethings and in the immune things
we deal with a lot of mold andparasites and parasites are kind
(11:18):
of like oh my gosh, what's aparasite?
Yeah, no-transcript.
(11:55):
Because once we got her nervoussystem stable and the parasites
out, her anxiety went away andshe had just normal, like I'm a
mom and you know those arethings that are debilitating for
people, especially moms, wherethey're feeling you know things,
and moms that beat themselvesup there's high, anxious,
worried about all these things.
And she is just an amazingadvocate for us because she's
like oh my gosh, I was goingdown all these roads trying to
fix my anxiety.
(12:15):
Yeah, it was really for thatone, it was just a parasitical
thing.
Another client he's got oh mygosh, he's in his sixties and
he's an amazing guy and he umhas, uh, he's just wrecked his
body and his life from athleticstandpoint.
He was an athlete, d1 athletein college and then he's older
but he's lived like an athletehis whole life.
(12:36):
So he's been hard on his body,lots of surgeries, lots of spine
pain, joint pain, all thethings, and he too tested for
parasites.
And um, he and he too testedfor parasites.
And um, he didn't tell me thathe was passing parasites.
We asked people.
But he also went down to mayoand he said um, he asked the
mayo doctor.
He did a three-day executivephysical at mayo and he asked
the mayo doctor.
He said hey, do I haveparasites?
(12:57):
Do you know anything about this?
The mayo doctor was like whatare you talking about?
No, you don't have parasites.
And the mayo doctor said whotold you have parasites?
And he's like oh, this girl upin Lake Elm, well, me, the
doctor's like she doesn't knowwhat she's talking about.
Well, my client said are youserious?
I paid all this money for thisexecutive physical.
I saw myself pass parasites andall my joint pain is gone and I
(13:19):
went to her and got rid of theparasites and got physically
better and I'm not in chronicpain and I came here and spent
all this money and now you'resaying I didn't even have
parasites.
He literally left me.
Oh, he came up here, came andsaw me and told me the story and
I was like, yeah, like peopleare walking around with things
that are getting missed andfalling through the cracks and
(13:39):
it's amazing.
So we deal with a lot of, forsure, hormone things like people
you know, because you know thewhole.
We look at your body as a wholebut you're getting to the root
of which organs are under stressfor the hormones and then
getting your body support andremoving what doesn't belong.
Just get people well.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
Yeah Well, could you, could you share a little bit
more about like parasites?
Speaker 2 (14:03):
Because somebody might be like what is she?
Speaker 1 (14:04):
talking about like, and they could go on google and
try to search it out, and I feellike you know the one, you know
I.
I always say I do this for theone, and I feel like there's one
person listening today that'slike oh, what is anymore?
Speaker 2 (14:16):
like I don't, please tell me.
Yeah, well, parasites are supercommon and if you do, go on
google, you're gonna go down arabbit trail and you'll be like,
oh my gosh, do I have a mini?
Yeah, you probably do, becauseif you go to a different country
, a travel Europe, anywhere theydo as a standard medical
procedure.
We'll do a parasite cleansetwice a year, because we all
know now that our body has aliving microbiome in our gut and
(14:38):
there's living things andliving bacteria, all the things,
and so, of course, parasiteswill want to live in our body as
well.
You can get them from eatingraw or undercooked food, sushi.
You can get them from walkingbarefoot outside.
You can get them from travelinginternationally.
You can get them from yourloving pet that's licking you
and loving you and doing allthese things, and so there's
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ways to get them.
It's just we never get them out,and so half the time I would
say 80% of my clients haveparasites.
I've had them, everybody hasthem.
It's no big deal and you justwant to get them out.
So parasites feed on sugar andthey hide behind metals, and so
many of us have metal exposurein our body just because our
body's not detoxing itappropriately and we're all
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eating a high-sugar diet.
So I say to some people I'mlike, well, if you make a happy
home for them and you're feedingthem, you just want to get them
out.
So when people get them out,those parasites are releasing
toxins, excreting toxins in yourbody that make you feel
horrible, and they're also, youknow, creating tons of symptoms
that, if it's a parasite thing,oftentimes people feel better
(15:42):
right away.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
Wow.
And you said, like, for thisgal, it was within a few weeks
that her anxiety lifted.
Yep, wow.
And was she on like anxietymedication at that point?
No, she didn't come down thattrail.
That's good, okay, yeah, causeyou think of how many gosh.
I heard a statistic recentlythat was it like.
70% of high school students arelike have anxiety and
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depression.
Would you?
What would you attribute thatto?
There could be many things.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
I don't know if I'd narrow it down to one it's just
parasites is one that's neveraddressed, and so you know it
could be.
Your lifestyle choices could be.
I really do believe your dietaffects mental health.
Your lifestyle choices could be.
I really do believe your dietaffects mental health.
It could be trauma, where youknow trauma, of course, um,
we're trauma informed here,which means that, um, we're very
aware of certain ways to besensitive to trauma and the
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nervous system and calming itand grounding it.
Um, but it also could just beparasites.
And so, while, because we take awhole person approach mind,
body, spirit we're going to lookat your body, see if it's
parasites.
We're going to look at yourmind, you know, are you, are you
taking your thoughts captive?
You know where are you at onyour emotions, do you need
support?
And then, from a spiritualstandpoint, you know the
(16:58):
spiritual needs that you have iswhich we do inner healing and
deliverance.
From the emotional standpoint,we do somatic body work because
we believe trauma stays in thebody and it needs to be released
, and so I don't know for eachperson, when they come in, from
a mental health standpoint, whatcould be affecting them, but I
know that I can at least walkalongside people and say, well,
(17:19):
let's see what is needed andoffer resources so we can
support them on their journey.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
Yeah, Well, it's interesting, you know, as you
mentioned inner healing,deliverance, I was somewhere
last night that somebody didn'teven know what that was.
So could you share a little bitmore about that, Because there
might be some people you know Iwould say in most of the
churches they don't go there,they don't talk about it.
There isn't that focus to helppeople be further set free.
(17:48):
Could you share a little bitmore about you know maybe what
that looks like?
Speaker 2 (17:53):
Help, maybe the listener understand what inner
healing and deliverance lookslike from your standpoint well,
um, yeah, it is really a hottopic and I think from a
biblical standpoint we have tolook at what does the bible say
and where do we stand on it?
And you know, we know ephesians6, that we are in a war and
that we're not in war of fleshand blood, but spirits and
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principalities, and how thatlooks for different churches and
denominations.
I grew up very fundamentalconservative upbringing and then
I didn't I didn't know what anyof this was either, but I was
living dealing with things thatnobody talked about, that I felt
like there was thingsoppressing or things you know
happening that I didn't havewords for, didn't have
understanding for, and it feltlike it was more than just
(18:34):
Ephesians six, like oh, there's,you know, enemies coming and
just I don't know.
I grew up in an environmentwhere just kind of talked about
that happens, but we didn't knowhow to get really get rid of it
.
So I really dug deep into theword of God.
I'm like well, christian, I'm aChristian, I love Jesus, I love
Jesus my whole life.
How you know, when you look atthe original word in the Bible,
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in Mark, and they talk aboutthat, it's not you're possessed
or anything, it's that there isa demonic oppression and it
happens to Christians and whenwe get the opportunity to say,
hey, we can get rid of that andthere's a way.
And of course the enemy wouldoppress Christians because we're
the threat, not the Christians.
And you look at Jesus in theBible, like in Mark, like he
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went into the synagogues and hecast out demons.
So it wasn't just the crowdthat had demons cast out, it was
in the church as well.
So I believe we're mind,obviously, like in the Bible,
mind, body, spirit, when we sayyes to Jesus.
Our spirit is secure in theLord, our salvation is secure.
The enemy can't get into ourspirit.
The Holy say yes to Jesus.
Our spirit is secure in theLord, our salvation is secure.
The enemy can't get into ourspirit.
The Holy Spirit dwells withinus.
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We are safe and protected.
But when we come out ofalignment, of that covering of
the blood of Jesus over ourspirit and our body comes out of
alignment, we get out of thatcovering and we open ourselves
up for demonic attachment orattack at us and and then also
our body can be oppressed.
We could have a demonic spiritattacking us and in us I believe
(20:02):
, and um, and so the best thingto do is just to cast it out and
just say get out, get out.
You cannot live in this body,you cannot be it, you cannot
have it, this is not your home.
So the Holy Spirit is in us.
We are safe and secure.
Sometimes there's like, well,how can you have the Holy Spirit
and divine at the same time?
Well, because our bodies canhave things too, and so I really
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believe we can cast them out,and I have seen people get
freedom over freedom.
You know, there's some thingsthat we need to disciple, you
know.
And then there's some things wejust need to cast and we're
good in the church of disciplingpeople and we should.
Then there's some things wejust need to cast and we're good
in the church of disciplingpeople and we should, but we
forget, just cast it out, and sosometimes you can get instant
freedom.
That someone thought was adiscipleship issue, and they,
they're in the word, they'redoing the things, but there's
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still all these oppressivethoughts, all of these hard
things that you know what.
You just gotta tell that thingto leave.
So that's what I thinkdeliverance is, from my
standpoint on it and then frominner healing.
So the next question would bewell, how could you get a
demonic oppression on you?
Well, I think you can get itgenerationally.
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There's things passed down inour bloodline.
I think that you can get themif you have habitual sin, that
you're opening the doors tothings, that you're opening the
door for the enemy.
You can get them from soul ties.
You know we sat, you knowJonathan and David had a godly
soul tie.
But you can have an ungodlysoul tie and you've got to break
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those.
You can also get them fromtrauma.
So when we go through trauma,which everybody has, and we're
in that deep moment, we makeagreements that we don't realize
have power and authority.
And so maybe you go throughsomething.
You're like I'm not lovable,I'm unworthy, and you make that
agreement nobody loves me,nobody loves me, and you just
hold on to it.
That turns into a door for theenemy to come in and attach to
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that.
And so that's where the innerhealing comes in, of saying,
okay, let's let.
Who do we believe God is, andyou know, and you know who is
father God?
Where is the lie between whofather God is, cause God is
loving, or who is Jesus or Holyspirit?
And that's where, partner withthe deliverance you cast it out,
but also with the inner healingof where is the lie that came
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in that an enemy attached to?
And we go, heal the lie throughum, the power of God, through
through Jesus and letting him inon that, and then we do the
inner healing on that side.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
Does that make sense Absolutely, and I'm guessing
that somebody is like, okay,sign me up, where do I do this?
So, obviously, here inMinnesota.
If you're close by, in the TwinCities, definitely go to his
healing house.
But I wanted to ask, so youknow, let's just say somebody
lives somewhere where they don'tknow anybody who does this.
Is it something that you can dolike self-deliverance or self
(22:41):
inner healing, or is it apartnership that's needed with
you know, a quote unquote thirdparty with somebody who is maybe
a deliverance minister?
Speaker 2 (22:50):
Well, there are, if this is getting more and more
you know needed, and so more andmore places are available.
Can you do self-deliverance?
Yes, you can.
Is it harder?
Yeah, because you are your HolySpirit.
You have the Spirit of Godwithin you, you can take your
thoughts, captive yourself, butyou also have an enemy who's
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like literally fighting you.
And so I find that in thebeginning, if you really want to
get free, have someone come in,like, when I do deliverance, I
do it, I'll do it, but I have anintercessor with me, because
this is war, this isn't prayer,like I'm not praying to Jesus.
Help me to feel loved.
That is a prayer.
I am really like unlovable.
Leave now, and then intercessoris like, yeah, and so it's a
(23:32):
little bit more of a warfaretactic.
And who wants to go to battlealone?
Can you?
Yeah, right, but I don'tencourage it because you really
have someone who's an enemy,who's really trying to keep you
in bondage.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
Yeah, awesome, like I really.
Like I said to the person lastnight that didn't know about it,
I shared a little bit and Ijust said I feel like it's
definitely a missing link in thechurch that has almost the door
.
You know we talk about opendoors.
It's like a door has been shutyou know, to keep people
imprisoned from.
(24:06):
You know some of the things thathave held them captive for so
long, and that's part of mystory too.
Right, there's generationalthings that you know we worked
on last friday literally like,yeah, um, I mean, you're welcome
to share anything on that if,if you are led to, but, um, you
know, kind of my, my, my storyis I just kept hearing my spirit
(24:29):
like bloodline deliverance,bloodline deliverance.
And you know the way that thelord orchestrated this for me to
be in this space in this time,partnered with you know, holly
and Steph and his healing house,to literally like get.
I mean, every time I go inthere I'm losing a pound and I'm
not even doing anything to likelose weight, but it's almost
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like the way I see it is that mybody has just been, it's kind
of been its way of trying toprotect itself.
Right here, let's get a littlethicker.
I don't know if that makessense, do you agree?
Have you seen that with people?
Speaker 2 (25:04):
Yes, 100%.
There's a physical side aboutthat with your nervous system is
maybe isn't working for you,but honestly, kristen, every
time you come in, you'reshedding another layer and I
think spiritually, and then it'scoming off physically.
That's what I see for you, thatyou're not doing anything in
this.
Pounds are coming off, and Imean that we.
We do see that quite often,like again, every case is
(25:25):
different, it's verypersonalized, but because we
deal with the spiritual aspectand it doesn't mean I don't want
people to think that we come inhere we talk about deliverance
and inner healing.
Actually, I rarely talk aboutit with my clients.
We let them know it's a serviceand then if people are want
more, we we offer it.
Yeah, um, but because I believethat and I'm the company and we
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pray over this space, we are, weare know that this is a healing
place for people.
I mean, people are gettinghealed.
Steph and I, every day, we areso humbled, like like your, like
your story, like, oh my gosh,she has this, this and this and
weight's coming off and she'sgetting more emotional freedom
and now she's ready fordeliverance and here's this
service, and then we're justwatching the Lord bring people,
(26:05):
yeah, and and sometimes I andsome of them don't even know
that we have so many clients whoare just like can I just come
sit in your space?
I don't want to leave.
I had one sweet girl, and shewas she.
She didn't even want that.
She was paying for thenutrition response testing that
we do, but honestly, she goes.
You know I don't need this.
Can I just sit here?
Speaker 1 (26:25):
I felt like that too.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
And I was like, yes, you can, because there's so much
chaos everywhere.
It's the peace of God that'sbeing stewarded and that when
people feel it, there'ssomething in their nervous
system that says I'm safe.
And I and people don't evenknow what safety means anymore
spiritual safety, physicalsafety and for our bodies truly
to heal, we really um have tofeel safe, and so I feel like um
(26:52):
, when people come in herewhether it's just for the
follow-up appointment, but mostI mean testimony of testimony I
felt heard, I felt safe.
They used the gifts and theresources that we have to bring
healing for them, as far as froma nutritional standpoint or the
other services we have.
But really we're gettingpeople's nervous systems and I
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think it's by the power of theHoly Spirit that he is the
comforter and the counselor andhis presence is here.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
Absolutely.
I mean, I feel it every like,even the first time I came and I
was like Whoa I, I, I'm afeeler, I can feel it Right.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
Yeah, I think your testimony was.
I don't know why, but I had todrive an hour to get here for
the ribbon cutting Right.
Speaker 1 (27:41):
Wasn't that?
And you're like, yeah, I, he,just I was off social media for
like three months.
I happened to pop in to checkone of my groups and your event
came up and I looked at it andI'm pretty quick to like go if
he, you know it's, it's prettyquick, like I'm I don't really
question things, but I was like,huh, I'm supposed to be here
and, um, yeah, it was like itjust it's like a stepping stone,
(28:02):
like a huge stepping stone thatreally has expanded so much for
me and the freedom that youknow I talk a lot about soaring
and I feel like my wings have,um, I'm just lighter and freer,
right, um, so it's beautiful.
I wanted you to touch a littlebit, because part of fight or
flight right, as I'm talkingabout soaring nervous system
(28:23):
fight or flight years ago hegave me kind of a flip the
script on that.
It was fight or flight, butyou're free.
So it was kind of this likelet's not just focus on that,
but like freedom.
So could you touch a little biton like fight or flight?
I know it is.
We hear it a lot At least I do.
Maybe it's because I'm kind ofin circles of holistic healing
(28:44):
and that kind of thing.
But could you share a littlebit more about, like kind of
what that looks like and whatpeople might be experiencing
when they're kind of in thatstate?
So from like a more of ascientific view yeah, and just
what you've seen of people thatare kind of, you know,
(29:04):
constantly in that realm right,living in fight or flight, yeah,
Well, like I said, we're traumainformed here and so with that
comes the autonomic nervoussystem and how does the body
feel safe to heal?
Speaker 2 (29:18):
And so we know from a um there's sympathetic, which
is the formal term for fight orflight.
You need it.
Fight or flight is a good thing, like sometimes, you know, we
might think it's a bad thing,but there's no shame for being
in fight or flight.
You know the the.
If you need to run from a bear,you need to run from a bear,
you need to run from a bear.
But even if you feel safe,unsafe, your body's going to go
into, without even knowing it, afight or flight state and if
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you stay there too long you'regoing to go into another level,
um, and it's the dorsal, vagalpart of parasympathetic and that
is your shutdown and that'swhere your body really is just
shutting down.
And if you kind of look,there's like the fawn, kind of
fight, flight or fawn now camewhere there's kind of this
freeze, like I'm frozen, likeI'm done, and our body.
(30:05):
I think all of these states area good thing.
It's just can we notice whenwe're in either fight or flight
or the shutdown?
Be kind to ourself that ourbody went there because we can't
control it and then the onlyway to get out a few of the ways
to get out is we have to feelsafe.
Yeah, so sometimes when we doinner healing we'll bring people
(30:25):
to a safe place and even ifit's just, you know, breathing
and some somatic stuff orwhatever, but getting that
nervous system to calm downenough to feel safe, yeah, so we
try to.
There's a lot of things even Italk to the girls here, we work
here of like sometimes there's alot of medical trauma that
comes just with like.
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I was talking to a client whodid we do labs, we do functional
labs here, and the way we doour blood draws, we do them in a
very calm room.
We do it with low music oilsamazing, I know, and and steph
doesn't, she's so calming, yeah,and I was like people actually
have trauma with needles and thesight of blood and sometimes
(31:06):
their body just knows somethingand so let's just calm their
nervous system before we pokethem.
So everything that we're doingis like aware of trying to get
their nervous system to calmdown, to feel safe from an
external standpoint, andpeople's bodies respond.
We've done.
I was just talking withpositions and there was just so
many things that when you'retrauma informed you know like we
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stand over people, like weshould test them.
But sometimes that can putpeople.
They don't notice it but theirbodies might go in a little bit
of a fight or flight becausethey're like hovering that the
position and we don't know whattrauma people have.
So as far as just like, I don'tknow if I got off track, but as
far as being good, this isreally good.
Yeah, like I don't.
There's.
There's so many little thingsthat we do when we say we Holy
(31:50):
Spirit, but to us being aware ofum, of the way we set up this
environment to calm the nervoussystem down so that your body
can heal, and then people feelthat.
Speaker 1 (32:04):
So that's so amazing.
You know, as you were talkingabout, like the blood draws, and
you know people having kind ofthat reaction.
I don't even know if this is athing, but I was wondering, like
when somebody kind of hitspanic, right, when somebody is
going to do a blood draw, is theblood affected at that point?
Can you actually have adifferent result in different
(32:26):
tests on the blood becauseyou're in a state of panic?
I'm curious.
That's just a thought that cameto me.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
That's super curious.
I have no idea, but that wouldbe super fascinating to know.
That's super curious.
I have no idea, but that wouldbe super fascinating to know.
I don't know, I don't know, Iknow that.
Um, you know, we had the oneshe just told me last night
because she had her blood draw.
She and she had gone to adifferent, just a lab of one of
them, and she was like, oh mygosh, she's like I have never
experienced a blood draw likethis.
Yeah, it's like I didn't evenknow that I get all like tense
(32:55):
when I go.
She didn't have an unknowntrauma and but she was like
she's like.
I was just so calm and before Iknew it, I felt the poking was
done and I'm like that,stephanie is amazing, she's yeah
she is amazing, oh my gosh.
Speaker 1 (33:09):
Well, you guys have other modalities.
I know you talked about somatic.
What is that?
If somebody was kind of like,what is, what is she talking
about with somatic?
Speaker 2 (33:19):
Yeah.
So somatic just means like thebody in a release, and so it's
getting more and more popular, Ithink since the book the Body
Keeps a Score came out, howeverlong ago, and people really
starting to understand thattrauma really does just stay in
our bodies.
So whenever we feel trapped orwe are not able to finish a body
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movement, that trauma can stay.
So, for example, let's saysomeone walks up to me and grabs
my arms and restrains my armsand I can't punch them, so I
don't finish my defensephysically in my body.
That trauma could or could not,but it could stay in my arms.
And so through somatic bodywork we allow that to finish
(34:02):
that.
Um, we don't do the punchingarm, but we finish that action
to actually get the trauma torelease out of the arm.
You'll see animals in nature.
If they go under, have atraumatic experience, they'll
shake it off.
They'll shake it.
It's their nervous systemshaking out the trauma in their
body and and we don't do that,we're not allowed to cry it out.
Crying is good, to just cry outour trauma.
You know, physically thechemicals in our eyes release
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and so we're aware.
And so with the somatic bodywork it's amazing We'll just lay
hands, let's say it was on myarm, and usually a person it's
not talk or anything.
Usually a person will say, ohmy gosh, I have this memory and
then, when that memory comes upin the arm, we'll let them, um,
release it, and then they'relike, oh my gosh, I feel so good
, so it's just like this hugesize.
(34:46):
So, um, that's what a smallpart of how somatic body work
works.
We do it with through prayer,we do it from a faith-based
perspective, definitely theprayer and the guidance of the
Holy spirit, um, and then thephysical release of trauma.
Speaker 1 (35:00):
Yeah Well, I almost this is kind of unusual that I
would do this but, um, I feellike somebody is to like,
actually do that action rightnow.
Like, is there, if you'rethinking of somebody who's
listening right now, is theresomething that maybe you're
seeing for them that they couldliterally shake off and then,
maybe walk them through that fora moment well what I would do,
(35:21):
and if they didn't get so intheir head about it.
Speaker 2 (35:23):
But if you could, just, I would just take a deep
breath in, just blow it out.
Yeah, excuse me, I'm gonnacough no problem, yeah.
So I would just say, take a deepbreath in, blow it out and try
(35:44):
and get your nervous system calmagain.
Just get some breath in yourbrain, blow it out, yeah.
And then I would just ask holyspirit, holy spirit, there's
something in my arms I need torelease.
And then, whatever you hear,don't question it, cause if it's
(36:05):
right or wrong, it doesn'tmatter.
And um, and maybe you get amemory of when you were a kid
your brother grabbed your arm.
So you would just, you wouldjust say, okay, holy spirit,
what do I need to know about mybrother grabbing my arm?
Keep breathing.
Maybe you'd be like I was angryat him and I never got to say
(36:27):
anything because I couldn't, youreally couldn't do anything.
And so you just feel that for aminute and you just, okay, I
really said anger against mybrother.
You just say it out loud andthen you literally just shake
your arms out and just shakethem off feels good for me right
now.
And you just shake them andshake them and shake them,
because your brother grabbedyour arm.
You can never just shake it offand you'd shake it until, and
(36:50):
all of a sudden, you'll know, oh, that that left, yeah, and then
it feels better yeah solistener is.
Speaker 1 (36:59):
I would love to hear it.
I'm sure reach out to holly ifyou experience something, of
course, but um, and I'veexperienced that myself within
the last year of doing some ofthis you know somatic release
work and it's at first I waslike me you want me to do what?
But it is so powerful.
Um, like you said, I saw avideo years ago of um.
It must've been like a gazellebeing attacked by a mountain
(37:22):
lion or something like aravenous animal and it played
dead.
Yeah, and then, once it wassafe, it literally like shook
itself out.
Yeah, it's like, wow, that isso incredible.
Speaker 2 (37:35):
Like, again, this is not stuff that you would be told
at your physician's office andthe really cool thing about that
is, um, we do it in an hoursession and obviously we guide
the Holy spirit, but it didn't.
We didn't have to talk aboutthe brother thing, we didn't
have to sit and dwell on it, wedidn't have to whatever, we just
had to let the memory come, letthe Holy spirit release it and
(37:57):
then physically shake it andthat's.
You know, it's amazing how muchpeople feel better, um, just by
doing that.
And I, I, I'm all for talktherapy, I really am.
But I think we're over-talkedand sometimes we're talking
things over and over again andcementing them in, and and
sometimes some of these otherthings can just release things
(38:19):
that you didn't have to.
Um, yeah, all on and over andover again.
So there's a place for all ofit.
It's just that these kinds ofthings aren't talked about.
Yeah Well, what other?
And over again.
So there's a place for all ofit.
It's just that these kind ofthings aren't talked about.
Speaker 1 (38:28):
Yeah, Well, what other modalities do you have?
Because I know I've been ableto experience some of the other
modalities that you offer and Iwould love to hear just kind of
the why behind, like thedifferent offerings, the you
know, we go to a restaurant,there's a menu and right there's
different items on the menu andtypically there's a reason that
you pick different things.
So tell us more about what elseyou offer.
(38:52):
And then what?
What is it behind it?
What is the why behind it?
Yeah, and the why.
Speaker 2 (38:59):
So our primary service is obviously the the
nutrition response testing.
But then we have what we callit our therapeutics, and that is
where we have.
We have, we have our officesover here and then we have the
therapeutic side over there andthat's where we do things to
help your body kind of heal inother ways.
So we have the sauna.
Everybody knows how great thesauna is for detox and helping
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your body release things.
We have red light therapy inthe sauna, so you get it all at
once and in the red lighttherapy is so good for your
cellular regeneration, healingyour body, all the things from
that standpoint.
Then we also have the salttherapy.
So halo therapy, salt therapy.
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They found.
They found that, um, coalminers and salt miners.
You know, a hundred years agothe coal miners had so much
respiratory issues, um, and thelongevity of life was horrible.
But the salt miners had majorlongevity of life.
They had great health, greatskin, great respiratory, all the
things.
So they studied it later andrealized all of the healing um
(40:07):
things with salt, regarding withsalt, regarding reducing
inflammation, all of thebenefits to respiratory, all the
benefits to skin, even mood,and so that's why we have a salt
room where there's a generatorthat just puts super small
particles of salt in the air, soyou just breathe it in, you
can't even see it, sometimes youcan taste it.
And then our sauna also hassalt in it.
So you just breathe it in, youcan't even see it, sometimes you
can taste it.
And then our sauna also hassalt in it.
(40:27):
So our sauna you can get salt,red light and sauna all at once,
which is fantastic.
And then we have what's calleda pulse electromagnetic field
mat, pemf mat, and that is agrounding mat.
That is really good to one tohelp your nervous system ground
chronic pain, stiffness, nervedamage, fatigue.
(40:51):
That's probably I don't know,they're all my favorite, but I
have a PMF mat.
I do it every day just toground myself, yeah, yeah.
Then we have a Qi machine thatis for lymphatic drainage.
It's this machine that swaysyour feet back and forth, kind
of feel like a fish, but ithelps your body drain and helps
with chronic fatigue,inflammation, nerve pain, joint
(41:15):
pain, circulation feels like youjust get done from a run, yeah,
good.
And then let's see what else.
Oh, then the ionic foot bath.
So that is where you put yourfeet in.
The ionic signals pull toxinsout of your feet into the water.
So the water will start outwhite and by the end it'll go.
(41:35):
It'll either change brown orgreen or black, depending on
what's pulling out of your body,and so we just live in a highly
toxic world, no matter what Ourbody needs help removing all of
this, and so that I love that.
That helps people sleep better,helps detox.
It removes toxins out of yourbody, brain fog, all those kind
(41:56):
of things, and then, yeah, Ithink that's it.
So those are the extra servicesthat we provide over there.
And what we call our living roomuh, it's healing house, so
that's a big room that has um,and then we do a ton of classes
here.
So we really believe in um,educating and actually
discipling people.
So, um, we do um, like we didan emmanuel journaling class, we
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actually have one coming up onthe 12th a day long of really
teaching people how to hear thevoice of god in a gentle way.
The person who's teaching thather name is Jane Grant-Daben.
She is absolutely amazing andgifted in calming the nervous
system down so that we reallycan slow down enough to hear God
speaking to us, because Ibelieve God for sure speaks
through the Bible, but he'sspeaking to us in so many ways
(42:42):
we're just not hearing it.
So that is one of our favoriteclass favorites.
Like people, there's a waitinglist for that one all the time.
We just opened that one up.
So, um other classes, we'vedone our dream interpretation
classes.
I might teach a class on how tohear the voice of god and how
to how to have propheticministry in a way that is not um
is honoring to people.
I think sometimes it's misused.
(43:03):
Um, um wisdom around propheticministry, um oh gosh, I don't
know we do so many.
We always have to just look atour website to see what is
available.
We have worship nights and justit's a lot of fun here.
Speaker 1 (43:14):
Yes, um, well, tell us a little bit.
So we didn't touch on thenutrition response testing.
Um, somebody might be wondering, like what is that?
That's a big deal.
Speaker 2 (43:25):
Yeah, it's a big deal .
It's our primary service.
It's a big deal.
So we use your body.
I believe our bodies are atemple of God.
I believe our bodies, given theright resources, nutrition,
environment, everything, reallyshould be able to heal
themselves.
In fact, for the last howevermany years, up to a couple
hundred years ago, we didn'thave the doctors, we didn't have
anything.
Our bodies healed and so we gotin the way.
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And so there's things that arestressing our bodies, that are
affecting our bodies fromhealing.
So we get to the root cause bysaying why isn't your body
working the way God made it andwhy isn't it healing?
We do it through pushing onyour muscle, and your muscle has
a certain response when we putcertain things around it.
And so it's kind of like if Iwere to hook you up to a people
(44:09):
are this is really common If Ihooked you up to a lie detector
machine, asked you certainquestions, the lie detector
would would analyze maybe yourheart rate, increase your blood
pressure, increase your sweatglands, and it would give an
output based on your body'snatural automatic responses.
That's what we did throughmuscle testing.
Was they put certain things onyour body just like a lie
detector and your, your muscle,will have an automatic response
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and that gives me information.
So I'm trained to read that.
So I, your God-given body, is,it knows and it wants to heal.
And then we figure out, okay,why.
Why?
The first thing we test is isyour nervous system functioning
the way it should?
So a lot of what we do versusother healing modalities is we
test your autonomic nervoussystem a little bit, what we
talked about before.
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And if your nervous system isblocked, your body's not even
able to heal.
Most people, when they have ablocked nervous system, they
feel stuck.
They feel like they've gone todoctor after doctor and nothing
works.
They just usually theirlanguage is that, like I, just
feel stuck.
Symptoms of a blocked nervoussystem are, let's say, you are
trying to lose weight and youare doing all the right things
You're exercising, working out,doing other things but you
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cannot get that scale to move.
It could just be nervous systemis blocked and once we unblock
it, all of a sudden the weightcomes off because you're doing
the right things.
Yeah.
So from there, we test theblocked nervous system.
Then we test is your nervoussystem switched?
That's a state of confusion.
That's when you're either stuckin fight or flight and can't
get out, or you're stuck andshut down and can't get out, and
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so when you're in a state ofconfusion, we test that and that
keeps your body from healing.
Well that, if you have aswitched nervous system, that
same person is trying to loseweight.
They could be doing all theright things eating right,
working out, doing everythingbut they're gaining weight.
They're having the oppositereaction.
So we test for both thosethings, and so once we fix and
make sure that their nervoussystem is working correctly,
(45:54):
people tend to get results, andthen, when they're doing the
right things eating and doingthings they're actually getting
the results that they wanted.
So that's our primary service,where we see the most healing,
and then, yeah, I absolutelylove it.
Speaker 1 (46:08):
Yeah, and I would say like I think, if I'm
remembering correctly, like Icame in blocked and every time
I've come in for my follow-upappointments I'm not blocked,
yeah, which can be superfrustrating as one who's been.
I mean I eat really well, Iwork out all the time and you
can like.
(46:29):
Honestly, it can be sofrustrating because you wonder,
like what's wrong with me, likethat was the question, like
what's wrong with me?
Like why, and you, you can, youcan get into some comparison
too.
It's like, well, what Lord?
Why am I like this?
Like what, what's wrong with me?
Because you go for years andyears of you know, knowing that
(46:49):
you're doing the right thingquote unquote and yet there's
just this missing element thatcan literally like to me.
It feels like what have I beengoing there for?
I don't know six or eight, eightweeks or something, and I'm
like dang, this is just wild.
Speaker 2 (47:07):
It's so cool because it really was.
Your nervous system was blocked.
Your body was not working foryou, it was working against you,
and so it is very frustratingand feel self-defeating and
discouraging because people aretrying to do right things.
Now, if you're still eating allthis stuff, that is a different
conversation, but if it's justyour nervous system is blocked,
(47:29):
we find that once we get peopleto feel the difference, this is
what it's like when your body isworking the way god intended.
We are made for so much more.
Oh gosh, I feel like I'llsettle.
I think people are thinking, oh, my gosh, I don't need to sleep
eight hours, it's okay.
I wake up all the time.
I don't need to go to thebathroom once a day, it's okay.
Like people are living at statusquo and mediocrity.
They don't even know it becausethey don't know.
No one's come into them andsaid no, actually there is more
for you and there's a way to getyou to experience more wellness
(47:52):
, vitality.
Our bodies are sacred.
We want to be able to use themthe way God intended and we're
settling because not because weknow, because I think no one
said no, that's not normal.
No, it's normal to be fatiguedall the time.
It's not normal to be tired.
It's not normal to go to thebathroom only once or twice a
week and you go to the doctorsnow because of how sick
everybody is, they've had tonormalize things.
(48:14):
That's not normal.
You should be going to thebathroom twice a day just to get
eliminate toxins out of yourbody.
So I feel like we're raisingthe bar like no, you're made for
more and we can fix things andyou can walk in full abundance
and freedom, vitality, and we'rehere to partner with you and
your goals and how you want toget there, and tell you what
your body's saying so you canmake the best decision, yes, and
(48:36):
just think like that's one ofmy favorite things, like there's
more, it's time to soar Right.
Speaker 1 (48:40):
Oh yeah, I love.
I saw on your website that youyou carry that message as well,
because when you feel wellyou're more prone to go do the
thing that God's calling you todo.
Speaker 2 (48:49):
When you're tired you're.
Speaker 1 (48:50):
You're probably going to be more of a bench warmer.
Speaker 2 (48:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (48:53):
He's calling us off the bench.
He's calling us to betrailblazers and pioneers, and I
get really passionate aboutthis and I'm thankful that he's
given me like the resilience andthe tenacity to keep going,
even though I have had years of,you know, a lot of physical
symptoms but then also somespiritual stuff that was really
trying to push me back and keepme back and keep you know.
(49:17):
If somebody is listening andyou're hearing this, you're like
that.
That's me Like reach out toHolly, reach out to Holly.
And if you're not in this area,do you have like resources or
somewhere where you can pointpeople, like in the United
States?
Or I mean I had somebody fromEngland yesterday that I pointed
to somebody because I love, youknow, helping people get that
(49:40):
inner healing that they're ableto get.
But do you have other you knowresources that you can share
with people that would maybepoint them, let's say, if they
live in Florida, or you knowGeorgia, you know.
Speaker 2 (49:53):
I do and on you know the, the way, the modality we're
anyway, when you're in holistichealth.
I just want to say this thereare places that have taken it.
That's not biblical and thereneeds to be discernment of like.
Oh my gosh, somatic body workthat hurts this really good
thing on this podcast here andyou find somebody who they're
partnering with matters, and soit's really important to have
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discernment of like.
Okay, if we're partnering withthe Holy Spirit.
The Holy Spirit is a source ofeverything we're doing and we're
praying and we're doing thosekinds of things.
But you know there's otherplaces, are not that are just
worldly or new agey or whatever,and so be cautious.
I really feel like, as far astrailblazing, I really feel like
I'm trailblazing a place inthis that taking back what the
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enemy has stolen, that God madeour bodies but that you know,
other places, without sourcingthe Holy Spirit, have stolen.
So we definitely do haveresources, if you're curious,
and also just an ability to belike okay, these are really good
questions to ask yourpractitioner to make.
Like you know, someone will say, oh, I saw this person and my
goal and I'll just tell them.
(50:56):
Make sure, if you feel at peaceand I felt good about like well
, you got to ask these questionsbecause I don't think they have
bad intentions or anything.
But we need to be discerning onthose kind of things,
absolutely.
Speaker 1 (51:10):
Well, you have just shared so much goodness today
and I would love for you to justshare.
If you have any, you know, justget somebody in mind today
that's listening.
If you have any encouragingwords for them, any wisdom that
you'd like to speak over them,would you be open to sharing
that and then would you pray usout today?
Speaker 2 (51:28):
Yeah, I would, yeah, definitely.
You know, I really feel likewhat you just said and it aligns
with your mission about we'remade for more and we really are
made to soar.
I think not only just in ourpersonal lives, our day to day,
but I feel like the Lord isdoing a lot, even just in our
personal lives, our day-to-day.
But I feel like the Lord isdoing a lot even just in in our
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communities, in our state, inour nation, and it's a new
season for a new time, and we,as Christians, really need to be
healed and whole, to walk outthe the call that God has for us
and to really be soaring.
And so, um, I just want peopleto encourage they are made for
more, there is more.
You are loved, you are known,you are seen.
(52:12):
Your spiritual battles thatyou're dealing with, oftentimes
in secret, you don't know.
There is freedom, there isdeliverance.
God does set the captives free.
Your health journeys that feellike a doctor after doctor or
whatever god does heal, I have.
I tell people all the time Ihave faith in the room to hold
that god is a god who heals.
(52:33):
He heals the brokenhearted, herestores and and we're all on
this journey, in differentseasons of either holding on to
a promise that isn't fulfilledyet or living out a promise that
has been fulfilled.
And so I feel like the Lord hasgiven me, with my family's own
health journey, finally to theother side, over 20 years of no,
I can tell you, hold on to myfaith.
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God does heal, god does restore.
My kids are maybe still havedisabilities and stuff, but he
was whole.
He's made them whole.
They are beautifully andwonderfully made.
He's brought restoration.
He has a job.
He's a god who is in a journeyto bring healing to his people,
to draw them closer to himself,because he loves us.
So I don't know, that's what Ihave.
I'll just close in prayer foranybody who's listening.
(53:16):
I feel I feel the lord always.
I always feel like whoever thelord brings in front of me I
always know is for a reason anda purpose and it's just my job
to partner with holy spirit ofwhy they're in front of me.
So I feel any person who'slistening, it's for a reason and
a purpose.
Heavenly Father, we praise you,we thank you.
I thank you, god, for Kristen.
I thank you, god, for herjourney.
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I thank you, god, for hertenacity, her trailblazing, her
determination.
I thank you, god, that shealways gets up.
She always gets back up and sheknows that you have called her
to soar on eagle's wings.
I thank you, god, that she'snot one just to soar alone, but
that she's one to bring others,that she wants to soar on
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eagle's wings, lord, but thatshe wants more to soar, and that
she's on mission and thecalling you have for her.
Thank you, god, for the healingthat you brought in her body.
Lord, the continued healingthat you have for her.
Pray for every single personwho's listening.
Heavenly Father, I just pray,god, you would touch them right
now.
I pray, god, that they wouldfeel your presence, even at the
sound of my voice.
I pray God, that they wouldknow that you are a God who
still works in power andauthority, that you are not just
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asleep upstairs, but that youare actually here, actively
reaching out to your children.
I thank you, god, that you area god, that you want to heal the
broken heart.
I just keep hearing that hewants to heal the broken hearted
.
So I pray, heavenly father,that you would just touch them
and feel your presence.
They would know they're loved,seen and heard.
May you bless them and keepthem.
May your face shine upon themand be gracious towards them.
(54:49):
May your conscience be towardsthem and fill them with your
peace.
Your name I pray for amen amen,holly.
Speaker 1 (55:01):
How can people get a hold of you?
What is the best way for themto reach out to you to hear more
about his healing house?
I'll be sure to add it to theshow notes, but is there a
website?
What's the best way?
Speaker 2 (55:12):
Hishealinghouseorg.
Some people ask why is it hishealing house?
Speaker 1 (55:16):
Holly, you should have asked you that question.
Tell us if you have a second.
Tell us the name.
Speaker 2 (55:21):
It's his healing house, Cause this is God's
healing house.
It really is, and it's one ofthose things.
If you know, you know.
It's like you know.
If you know it's his healinghouse, this is his house, it's
all for him.
Speaker 1 (55:33):
So his healing houseorg?
Okay, and then can they reachout to you personally if they
had questions.
Okay, absolutely.
I know you guys offer discoverycalls, so could you just touch
on that really quickly.
Speaker 2 (55:51):
If you want to learn more and have questions.
It's a 15 minute free call.
You talk to me specificallywhen you sign up for that and,
yeah, I just kind of ask, answerany questions and we really
want people to feel excited andat peace about this is the right
, the next step for them.
So, yeah, sign up for discoverycall.
If you're interested in some ofour ministry stuff on our
website it's called Living RoomEvents.
That's some of our ministryclasses that we have, but
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otherwise just check our website.
Speaker 1 (56:14):
Yeah, definitely check it out.
Follow along.
Well, thank you so much forbeing on.
I'm going to close with ouranchoring verse over Hope
Unlocked.
May the God of hope fill youwith all joy and peace in
believing so that, by the powerof the Holy Spirit, you may
abound in hope.
I love that word abound.
That's Romans 15, 13.
So thank you, holly, for beinga brave voice.
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Who's setting so many free?
And I will be back with anotherepisode next week.
We'll talk to you later.
Bye, thank you.
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I'm your host, kristen Kurtz,and I'm also the founder of New
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, break free from limitationsand thrive with confidence,
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Get ready to dive in as weuncover empowering keys and
insights in this episode.
So tune in and let's unlockhope together.
Welcome to the Hope Unlockedpodcast.
I'm Kristen Kurtz, your host.
I pray this episode is like aholy IV of hope for your soul.
Please help me.
Welcome Holly Meisner to theshow.
I am so thrilled to have her ontoday.
(00:59):
I don't even know what I cansay to start this out, to just
honor her and the ways that theLord has truly brought her on my
path as of about six months ago, and it was through I think it
was through LinkedIn, to behonest with you, which is not my
favorite place to be, but weshow up places that he leads us
(01:21):
and through that first meeting Iwas just like, oh my gosh, this
girl's on fire and I want toknow more about her.
And through that he led me toexperience just amazing
spiritual and physical healingthrough her business and I would
call it a business tree, hishealing house.
(01:43):
So I want to let you take thisaway.
Holly, could you share a littlebit about yourself before we
get started?
Speaker 2 (01:49):
Yeah, thank you, kristen.
I know it's kind of funny thatwe met on LinkedIn, I know, and
then connected, had a connectcall and then had mutual friends
and the Lord kept bringing ourpaths back together.
So it's an honor to be on yourpodcast and it's an honor just
to get to know you more.
Yeah, let's see a little bitabout myself.
(02:11):
I live in Lake Elmo.
I do own my business.
I love that business ministry.
What did you call it?
Business, a business tree?
Yeah, that's like a good word.
You should point that.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
I think I got it from somebody else.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
I can't take credit, but I like using it.
Yes, that's a good word.
I have four kids.
I live in Lake Elmo.
I own my wellness companycalled His Healing House.
We opened a year ago andabsolutely love what I do here.
Um, I love um, wellness,prevention, healing, all those
things and so I opened thecompany.
Actually, my passion for mycompany, a mission for the
(02:55):
company, really came out of myown family's personal story of
not living well and um and notthriving and living in freedom.
So I have four kids and two ofmy four kids have really serious
, complex medical issues.
I'm a 21-year-old well, let'ssee 22, 20, 17, and 14.
(03:17):
And real quick.
But just to give an idea of myfamily's health journey that
brought me into a wellnesscompany is my 19-year-old now,
or 20 or 20 year old he.
When he was 18 months old, hewas diagnosed with a rare spine
defect that was causing hisspine to collapse onto his chest
cavity and told us that he, uh,without major intervention he
(03:38):
wouldn't live over the age of 10because he wouldn't have room
for his heart and lungs to grow.
Um, we, we did his first majorsurgery and he had surgery every
three months for about fiveyears, and then there was
complications.
So then it spread out to everysix months by the time we got to
10, the good news is is that itwasn't life-threatening anymore
(04:00):
.
They got enough room in hisheart and lungs.
But so many surgeries, so muchdamage on his um, on his back,
that he had a for paralysis, ohmy gosh.
So then from there we were on along journey of just making
sure that he his spine wouldn'tget damaged, and his last major
surgery was in 2020.
It was a success and um, and sohe's he's doing well.
(04:22):
He's off at college, living hisbest life.
But, as a mom, it was a journey.
It was a journey to walk himthrough some life threatening
things for about 10 years andthen the risk of his him being
able to walk.
And then, in addition, myyoungest her name is Ellie.
She was born.
I found out when I was pregnantwith her that she was missing
(04:43):
part of her right cerebellum inher brain, so she had her first
brain surgery the day she wasborn, and then she has had eight
brain surgeries in her littleshort life, 14 years, and um,
she's doing well too.
Uh, she had some of thosesurgeries.
Most of them, all eight of them, except the first one, were
emergent.
Um and she.
(05:03):
But she's doing well, but sheis globally delayed and she's
vision impaired.
She has a little seeing eyecane, but she is just a walking
joy, she is I've met her.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
I'm like better yes, he just loves.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
I know it seems like joy I know she thinks she runs
the business here, so I I cantell, yeah, she, she, and she's
a little salesperson like she.
I didn't know she took a stackof my business cards to her
school like a hundred cards andshe gave them to everybody and I
had no idea.
I picked her up one day and Isaid something like oh, we all
(05:35):
know who you are because my mom,my mom Amazing.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
She's like his healing house evangelist she
really is, she's so cute.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
So, out of all of that sickness, all of that
hardship, all of that medicaltrauma, I was on a mission, one
to save my kids lives to thedoctors.
But I felt like there was theirhealth was kind of falling
through the cracks in other waysthat weren't life-threatening.
So their digestive issues theyhad so much you know, toxic
chemical exposure, metalexposure, so many things.
(06:06):
And so about 10 years agothat's when I started really
looking at holistic ways andreally whole person approaches
to bring healing to people.
Yeah and um, then I did that,started living that lifestyle 10
years ago and then had anopportunity to work at a
holistic company, absolutelyloved it and then opened up my
own company at a holisticcompany, absolutely loved it and
then opened up my own company.
(06:27):
And so I really feel like I'mon mission to help people either
prevent, prevention, preventsome of the things that people
are dealing with in their healthfrom a holistic approach, and
also really walk alongsidepeople who are dealing with
things that maybe they feel likethe doctors are like oh, we
can't help you with anything.
They've tried every approach.
And it's interesting we seemiracles every day.
People walk in and get them.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
Yeah Well, I'm actually a walking miracle
myself, like I'm still in theprocess with you, but, um, you
know, we had a deliverancesession last Friday.
That like whole level of freedom, um, I I've shared with
somebody recently.
Like I feel like this is kindof like I heard my spirit, like
the final countdown, like thishas been such a journey for me
(07:11):
to come to this point, but Iwould love for you to share.
So I love pioneers, I lovepeople who are trailblazing and
I really feel like you, part ofwhy the first conversation we
had I was like, oh my gosh, likeI would love for you to share
what you're doing because it isso different.
You know, we know that there'sa lot of places out there that
(07:31):
do get after Rick Haas and I'vebeen immersed in some of those
places and I love researchingand do my own.
You know, I've taken myself ona journey sometimes, too, and
been like, okay, well, maybeI'll try this or this and I
would love for you to share likehow, how are you different?
Like what is it?
What does it look like forsomebody to step in your doors
(07:54):
and walk this out with hishealing house?
Speaker 2 (07:57):
Well, I mean, I really believe in marketplace
ministry, so I own my company,but really this is my ministry
and I think people are going towalk into my business and
they're walking in to getphysical healing through our
services.
But honestly, I really dobelieve there's a spiritual and
emotional aspect to healing andbecause I partner with the Holy
(08:18):
Spirit in all that we do, youknow, people are walking in and
we're able to.
You're right.
You're right like, yes, there'ssome physical things, like,
let's say, someone has adigestion issue.
Yeah, they need help to getthat moving through
nutritionally and supplement orwhatever.
But honestly, sometimes ourbowels hold on to stuff because
we're tight and we're tense andthere's trauma or there's
spiritual things and just thelord has given me and my other
(08:41):
colleague, um stephanie we bothsee clients here and just this
beautiful ability to really havediscernment and, with the gifts
of the spirit, to see um, yeah,this is a body thing, this is a
nutritional thing, but this isa spiritual thing, this is a
spiritual thing and we haveresources to help you if you're
wanting it and people want itand people feel like, yeah, the
(09:01):
doctor told me nothing's wrong,nothing's wrong, nothing's.
They can't find it, butsomething's wrong and they don't
feel heard, they don't feelvalidated.
And if you're only going todeal with it from a body
standpoint although sometimes itworks we're different because I
think we bring in the HolySpirit and we bring in the Holy
Spirit to help guide us, bothwhen we're in the room with
patients Now, not every patientis open or wants that they get
(09:23):
to decide, but we're coming withthat heart of like Holy Spirit.
What is this?
What does this client needtoday?
And give us wisdom anddiscernment, word of knowledge,
word of wisdom to treat ourpatients.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
Yes, I mean, I like I said I've been a recipient of
this and it's been mind blowingand so, beyond what I even
expected, I guess you could,like I was expectant but I
didn't know the fullness andbrevity of, like what I would
experience.
Um, could you share maybe atestimonial, without you know,
obviously without exposingclient confidentiality could you
(09:58):
share maybe a testimonial ofsomebody that you've walked with
, um, maybe even yourself, likewhat does this look like for you
to really walk this out?
Um and experience freedom on alevel that maybe you didn't
expect?
You know expect for whetherit's a client or for yourself?
Speaker 2 (10:13):
oh my gosh, there's so many, um, I don't know, what
do you want?
Do you want, like, um, aphysical testimonial?
Speaker 1 (10:20):
yeah, I mean whatever is coming to mind first, I
think, um, somebody might belike, well what?
Because when I came to yourribbon cutting which was a whole
other story that the Lord ledme to the ribbon cutting I'd
never been to a ribbon cuttingbefore Steph actually shared a
little bit about her testimonialabout hormones, and hormones
(10:40):
were really, like, highlightedto me at that point.
So hearing her testimonial wasactually part of, you know, by
the bullet, the lamb, the wordof our testimony.
So maybe somebody is listeningtoday and they're like well,
what, what could I experience bygoing there?
What is a testimonial, right?
Speaker 2 (10:58):
I have so many obviously, um, well, that's,
jeff, sure hurts, but, um, youknow a lot of what we do because
we get to the root cause.
So we deal with food, food andsensitivities, metal exposure,
toxic chemicals, um, scartissues, pandemic stuff.
And then we deal with immunethings and in the immune things
we deal with a lot of mold andparasites and parasites are kind
(11:18):
of like oh my gosh, what's aparasite?
Yeah, no-transcript.
(11:55):
Because once we got her nervoussystem stable and the parasites
out, her anxiety went away andshe had just normal, like I'm a
mom and you know those arethings that are debilitating for
people, especially moms, wherethey're feeling you know things,
and moms that beat themselvesup there's high, anxious,
worried about all these things.
And she is just an amazingadvocate for us because she's
like oh my gosh, I was goingdown all these roads trying to
fix my anxiety.
(12:15):
Yeah, it was really for thatone, it was just a parasitical
thing.
Another client he's got oh mygosh, he's in his sixties and
he's an amazing guy and he umhas, uh, he's just wrecked his
body and his life from athleticstandpoint.
He was an athlete, d1 athletein college and then he's older
but he's lived like an athletehis whole life.
(12:36):
So he's been hard on his body,lots of surgeries, lots of spine
pain, joint pain, all thethings, and he too tested for
parasites.
And um, he and he too testedfor parasites.
And um, he didn't tell me thathe was passing parasites.
We asked people.
But he also went down to mayoand he said um, he asked the
mayo doctor.
He did a three-day executivephysical at mayo and he asked
the mayo doctor.
He said hey, do I haveparasites?
(12:57):
Do you know anything about this?
The mayo doctor was like whatare you talking about?
No, you don't have parasites.
And the mayo doctor said whotold you have parasites?
And he's like oh, this girl upin Lake Elm, well, me, the
doctor's like she doesn't knowwhat she's talking about.
Well, my client said are youserious?
I paid all this money for thisexecutive physical.
I saw myself pass parasites andall my joint pain is gone and I
(13:19):
went to her and got rid of theparasites and got physically
better and I'm not in chronicpain and I came here and spent
all this money and now you'resaying I didn't even have
parasites.
He literally left me.
Oh, he came up here, came andsaw me and told me the story and
I was like, yeah, like peopleare walking around with things
that are getting missed andfalling through the cracks and
(13:39):
it's amazing.
So we deal with a lot of, forsure, hormone things like people
you know, because you know thewhole.
We look at your body as a wholebut you're getting to the root
of which organs are under stressfor the hormones and then
getting your body support andremoving what doesn't belong.
Just get people well.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
Yeah Well, could you, could you share a little bit
more about like parasites?
Speaker 2 (14:03):
Because somebody might be like what is she?
Speaker 1 (14:04):
talking about like, and they could go on google and
try to search it out, and I feellike you know the one, you know
I.
I always say I do this for theone, and I feel like there's one
person listening today that'slike oh, what is anymore?
Speaker 2 (14:16):
like I don't, please tell me.
Yeah, well, parasites are supercommon and if you do, go on
google, you're gonna go down arabbit trail and you'll be like,
oh my gosh, do I have a mini?
Yeah, you probably do, becauseif you go to a different country
, a travel Europe, anywhere theydo as a standard medical
procedure.
We'll do a parasite cleansetwice a year, because we all
know now that our body has aliving microbiome in our gut and
(14:38):
there's living things andliving bacteria, all the things,
and so, of course, parasiteswill want to live in our body as
well.
You can get them from eatingraw or undercooked food, sushi.
You can get them from walkingbarefoot outside.
You can get them from travelinginternationally.
You can get them from yourloving pet that's licking you
and loving you and doing allthese things, and so there's
(15:01):
ways to get them.
It's just we never get them out,and so half the time I would
say 80% of my clients haveparasites.
I've had them, everybody hasthem.
It's no big deal and you justwant to get them out.
So parasites feed on sugar andthey hide behind metals, and so
many of us have metal exposurein our body just because our
body's not detoxing itappropriately and we're all
(15:21):
eating a high-sugar diet.
So I say to some people I'mlike, well, if you make a happy
home for them and you're feedingthem, you just want to get them
out.
So when people get them out,those parasites are releasing
toxins, excreting toxins in yourbody that make you feel
horrible, and they're also, youknow, creating tons of symptoms
that, if it's a parasite thing,oftentimes people feel better
(15:42):
right away.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
Wow.
And you said, like, for thisgal, it was within a few weeks
that her anxiety lifted.
Yep, wow.
And was she on like anxietymedication at that point?
No, she didn't come down thattrail.
That's good, okay, yeah, causeyou think of how many gosh.
I heard a statistic recentlythat was it like.
70% of high school students arelike have anxiety and
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depression.
Would you?
What would you attribute thatto?
There could be many things.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
I don't know if I'd narrow it down to one it's just
parasites is one that's neveraddressed, and so you know it
could be.
Your lifestyle choices could be.
I really do believe your dietaffects mental health.
Your lifestyle choices could be.
I really do believe your dietaffects mental health.
It could be trauma, where youknow trauma, of course, um,
we're trauma informed here,which means that, um, we're very
aware of certain ways to besensitive to trauma and the
(16:36):
nervous system and calming itand grounding it.
Um, but it also could just beparasites.
And so, while, because we take awhole person approach mind,
body, spirit we're going to lookat your body, see if it's
parasites.
We're going to look at yourmind, you know, are you, are you
taking your thoughts captive?
You know where are you at onyour emotions, do you need
support?
And then, from a spiritualstandpoint, you know the
(16:58):
spiritual needs that you have iswhich we do inner healing and
deliverance.
From the emotional standpoint,we do somatic body work because
we believe trauma stays in thebody and it needs to be released
, and so I don't know for eachperson, when they come in, from
a mental health standpoint, whatcould be affecting them, but I
know that I can at least walkalongside people and say, well,
(17:19):
let's see what is needed andoffer resources so we can
support them on their journey.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
Yeah, Well, it's interesting, you know, as you
mentioned inner healing,deliverance, I was somewhere
last night that somebody didn'teven know what that was.
So could you share a little bitmore about that, Because there
might be some people you know Iwould say in most of the
churches they don't go there,they don't talk about it.
There isn't that focus to helppeople be further set free.
(17:48):
Could you share a little bitmore about you know maybe what
that looks like?
Speaker 2 (17:53):
Help, maybe the listener understand what inner
healing and deliverance lookslike from your standpoint well,
um, yeah, it is really a hottopic and I think from a
biblical standpoint we have tolook at what does the bible say
and where do we stand on it?
And you know, we know ephesians6, that we are in a war and
that we're not in war of fleshand blood, but spirits and
(18:14):
principalities, and how thatlooks for different churches and
denominations.
I grew up very fundamentalconservative upbringing and then
I didn't I didn't know what anyof this was either, but I was
living dealing with things thatnobody talked about, that I felt
like there was thingsoppressing or things you know
happening that I didn't havewords for, didn't have
understanding for, and it feltlike it was more than just
(18:34):
Ephesians six, like oh, there's,you know, enemies coming and
just I don't know.
I grew up in an environmentwhere just kind of talked about
that happens, but we didn't knowhow to get really get rid of it
.
So I really dug deep into theword of God.
I'm like well, christian, I'm aChristian, I love Jesus, I love
Jesus my whole life.
How you know, when you look atthe original word in the Bible,
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in Mark, and they talk aboutthat, it's not you're possessed
or anything, it's that there isa demonic oppression and it
happens to Christians and whenwe get the opportunity to say,
hey, we can get rid of that andthere's a way.
And of course the enemy wouldoppress Christians because we're
the threat, not the Christians.
And you look at Jesus in theBible, like in Mark, like he
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went into the synagogues and hecast out demons.
So it wasn't just the crowdthat had demons cast out, it was
in the church as well.
So I believe we're mind,obviously, like in the Bible,
mind, body, spirit, when we sayyes to Jesus.
Our spirit is secure in theLord, our salvation is secure.
The enemy can't get into ourspirit.
The Holy say yes to Jesus.
Our spirit is secure in theLord, our salvation is secure.
The enemy can't get into ourspirit.
The Holy Spirit dwells withinus.
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We are safe and protected.
But when we come out ofalignment, of that covering of
the blood of Jesus over ourspirit and our body comes out of
alignment, we get out of thatcovering and we open ourselves
up for demonic attachment orattack at us and and then also
our body can be oppressed.
We could have a demonic spiritattacking us and in us I believe
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, and um, and so the best thingto do is just to cast it out and
just say get out, get out.
You cannot live in this body,you cannot be it, you cannot
have it, this is not your home.
So the Holy Spirit is in us.
We are safe and secure.
Sometimes there's like, well,how can you have the Holy Spirit
and divine at the same time?
Well, because our bodies canhave things too, and so I really
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believe we can cast them out,and I have seen people get
freedom over freedom.
You know, there's some thingsthat we need to disciple, you
know.
And then there's some things wejust need to cast and we're
good in the church of disciplingpeople and we should.
Then there's some things wejust need to cast and we're good
in the church of disciplingpeople and we should, but we
forget, just cast it out, and sosometimes you can get instant
freedom.
That someone thought was adiscipleship issue, and they,
they're in the word, they'redoing the things, but there's
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still all these oppressivethoughts, all of these hard
things that you know what.
You just gotta tell that thingto leave.
So that's what I thinkdeliverance is, from my
standpoint on it and then frominner healing.
So the next question would bewell, how could you get a
demonic oppression on you?
Well, I think you can get itgenerationally.
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There's things passed down inour bloodline.
I think that you can get themif you have habitual sin, that
you're opening the doors tothings, that you're opening the
door for the enemy.
You can get them from soul ties.
You know we sat, you knowJonathan and David had a godly
soul tie.
But you can have an ungodlysoul tie and you've got to break
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those.
You can also get them fromtrauma.
So when we go through trauma,which everybody has, and we're
in that deep moment, we makeagreements that we don't realize
have power and authority.
And so maybe you go throughsomething.
You're like I'm not lovable,I'm unworthy, and you make that
agreement nobody loves me,nobody loves me, and you just
hold on to it.
That turns into a door for theenemy to come in and attach to
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that.
And so that's where the innerhealing comes in, of saying,
okay, let's let.
Who do we believe God is, andyou know, and you know who is
father God?
Where is the lie between whofather God is, cause God is
loving, or who is Jesus or Holyspirit?
And that's where, partner withthe deliverance you cast it out,
but also with the inner healingof where is the lie that came
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in that an enemy attached to?
And we go, heal the lie throughum, the power of God, through
through Jesus and letting him inon that, and then we do the
inner healing on that side.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
Does that make sense Absolutely, and I'm guessing
that somebody is like, okay,sign me up, where do I do this?
So, obviously, here inMinnesota.
If you're close by, in the TwinCities, definitely go to his
healing house.
But I wanted to ask, so youknow, let's just say somebody
lives somewhere where they don'tknow anybody who does this.
Is it something that you can dolike self-deliverance or self
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inner healing, or is it apartnership that's needed with
you know, a quote unquote thirdparty with somebody who is maybe
a deliverance minister?
Speaker 2 (22:50):
Well, there are, if this is getting more and more
you know needed, and so more andmore places are available.
Can you do self-deliverance?
Yes, you can.
Is it harder?
Yeah, because you are your HolySpirit.
You have the Spirit of Godwithin you, you can take your
thoughts, captive yourself, butyou also have an enemy who's
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like literally fighting you.
And so I find that in thebeginning, if you really want to
get free, have someone come in,like, when I do deliverance, I
do it, I'll do it, but I have anintercessor with me, because
this is war, this isn't prayer,like I'm not praying to Jesus.
Help me to feel loved.
That is a prayer.
I am really like unlovable.
Leave now, and then intercessoris like, yeah, and so it's a
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little bit more of a warfaretactic.
And who wants to go to battlealone?
Can you?
Yeah, right, but I don'tencourage it because you really
have someone who's an enemy,who's really trying to keep you
in bondage.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
Yeah, awesome, like I really.
Like I said to the person lastnight that didn't know about it,
I shared a little bit and Ijust said I feel like it's
definitely a missing link in thechurch that has almost the door
.
You know we talk about opendoors.
It's like a door has been shutyou know, to keep people
imprisoned from.
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You know some of the things thathave held them captive for so
long, and that's part of mystory too.
Right, there's generationalthings that you know we worked
on last friday literally like,yeah, um, I mean, you're welcome
to share anything on that if,if you are led to, but, um, you
know, kind of my, my, my storyis I just kept hearing my spirit
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like bloodline deliverance,bloodline deliverance.
And you know the way that thelord orchestrated this for me to
be in this space in this time,partnered with you know, holly
and Steph and his healing house,to literally like get.
I mean, every time I go inthere I'm losing a pound and I'm
not even doing anything to likelose weight, but it's almost
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like the way I see it is that mybody has just been, it's kind
of been its way of trying toprotect itself.
Right here, let's get a littlethicker.
I don't know if that makessense, do you agree?
Have you seen that with people?
Speaker 2 (25:04):
Yes, 100%.
There's a physical side aboutthat with your nervous system is
maybe isn't working for you,but honestly, kristen, every
time you come in, you'reshedding another layer and I
think spiritually, and then it'scoming off physically.
That's what I see for you, thatyou're not doing anything in
this.
Pounds are coming off, and Imean that we.
We do see that quite often,like again, every case is
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different, it's verypersonalized, but because we
deal with the spiritual aspectand it doesn't mean I don't want
people to think that we come inhere we talk about deliverance
and inner healing.
Actually, I rarely talk aboutit with my clients.
We let them know it's a serviceand then if people are want
more, we we offer it.
Yeah, um, but because I believethat and I'm the company and we
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pray over this space, we are, weare know that this is a healing
place for people.
I mean, people are gettinghealed.
Steph and I, every day, we areso humbled, like like your, like
your story, like, oh my gosh,she has this, this and this and
weight's coming off and she'sgetting more emotional freedom
and now she's ready fordeliverance and here's this
service, and then we're justwatching the Lord bring people,
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yeah, and and sometimes I andsome of them don't even know
that we have so many clients whoare just like can I just come
sit in your space?
I don't want to leave.
I had one sweet girl, and shewas she.
She didn't even want that.
She was paying for thenutrition response testing that
we do, but honestly, she goes.
You know I don't need this.
Can I just sit here?
Speaker 1 (26:25):
I felt like that too.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
And I was like, yes, you can, because there's so much
chaos everywhere.
It's the peace of God that'sbeing stewarded and that when
people feel it, there'ssomething in their nervous
system that says I'm safe.
And I and people don't evenknow what safety means anymore
spiritual safety, physicalsafety and for our bodies truly
to heal, we really um have tofeel safe, and so I feel like um
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, when people come in herewhether it's just for the
follow-up appointment, but mostI mean testimony of testimony I
felt heard, I felt safe.
They used the gifts and theresources that we have to bring
healing for them, as far as froma nutritional standpoint or the
other services we have.
But really we're gettingpeople's nervous systems and I
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think it's by the power of theHoly Spirit that he is the
comforter and the counselor andhis presence is here.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
Absolutely.
I mean, I feel it every like,even the first time I came and I
was like Whoa I, I, I'm afeeler, I can feel it Right.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
Yeah, I think your testimony was.
I don't know why, but I had todrive an hour to get here for
the ribbon cutting Right.
Speaker 1 (27:41):
Wasn't that?
And you're like, yeah, I, he,just I was off social media for
like three months.
I happened to pop in to checkone of my groups and your event
came up and I looked at it andI'm pretty quick to like go if
he, you know it's, it's prettyquick, like I'm I don't really
question things, but I was like,huh, I'm supposed to be here
and, um, yeah, it was like itjust it's like a stepping stone,
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like a huge stepping stone thatreally has expanded so much for
me and the freedom that youknow I talk a lot about soaring
and I feel like my wings have,um, I'm just lighter and freer,
right, um, so it's beautiful.
I wanted you to touch a littlebit, because part of fight or
flight right, as I'm talkingabout soaring nervous system
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fight or flight years ago hegave me kind of a flip the
script on that.
It was fight or flight, butyou're free.
So it was kind of this likelet's not just focus on that,
but like freedom.
So could you touch a little biton like fight or flight?
I know it is.
We hear it a lot At least I do.
Maybe it's because I'm kind ofin circles of holistic healing
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and that kind of thing.
But could you share a littlebit more about, like kind of
what that looks like and whatpeople might be experiencing
when they're kind of in thatstate?
So from like a more of ascientific view yeah, and just
what you've seen of people thatare kind of, you know,
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constantly in that realm right,living in fight or flight, yeah,
Well, like I said, we're traumainformed here and so with that
comes the autonomic nervoussystem and how does the body
feel safe to heal?
Speaker 2 (29:18):
And so we know from a um there's sympathetic, which
is the formal term for fight orflight.
You need it.
Fight or flight is a good thing, like sometimes, you know, we
might think it's a bad thing,but there's no shame for being
in fight or flight.
You know the the.
If you need to run from a bear,you need to run from a bear,
you need to run from a bear.
But even if you feel safe,unsafe, your body's going to go
into, without even knowing it, afight or flight state and if
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you stay there too long you'regoing to go into another level,
um, and it's the dorsal, vagalpart of parasympathetic and that
is your shutdown and that'swhere your body really is just
shutting down.
And if you kind of look,there's like the fawn, kind of
fight, flight or fawn now camewhere there's kind of this
freeze, like I'm frozen, likeI'm done, and our body.
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I think all of these states area good thing.
It's just can we notice whenwe're in either fight or flight
or the shutdown?
Be kind to ourself that ourbody went there because we can't
control it and then the onlyway to get out a few of the ways
to get out is we have to feelsafe.
Yeah, so sometimes when we doinner healing we'll bring people
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to a safe place and even ifit's just, you know, breathing
and some somatic stuff orwhatever, but getting that
nervous system to calm downenough to feel safe, yeah, so we
try to.
There's a lot of things even Italk to the girls here, we work
here of like sometimes there's alot of medical trauma that
comes just with like.
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I was talking to a client whodid we do labs, we do functional
labs here, and the way we doour blood draws, we do them in a
very calm room.
We do it with low music oilsamazing, I know, and and steph
doesn't, she's so calming, yeah,and I was like people actually
have trauma with needles and thesight of blood and sometimes
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their body just knows somethingand so let's just calm their
nervous system before we pokethem.
So everything that we're doingis like aware of trying to get
their nervous system to calmdown, to feel safe from an
external standpoint, andpeople's bodies respond.
We've done.
I was just talking withpositions and there was just so
many things that when you'retrauma informed you know like we
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stand over people, like weshould test them.
But sometimes that can putpeople.
They don't notice it but theirbodies might go in a little bit
of a fight or flight becausethey're like hovering that the
position and we don't know whattrauma people have.
So as far as just like, I don'tknow if I got off track, but as
far as being good, this isreally good.
Yeah, like I don't.
There's.
There's so many little thingsthat we do when we say we Holy
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Spirit, but to us being aware ofum, of the way we set up this
environment to calm the nervoussystem down so that your body
can heal, and then people feelthat.
Speaker 1 (32:04):
So that's so amazing.
You know, as you were talkingabout, like the blood draws, and
you know people having kind ofthat reaction.
I don't even know if this is athing, but I was wondering, like
when somebody kind of hitspanic, right, when somebody is
going to do a blood draw, is theblood affected at that point?
Can you actually have adifferent result in different
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tests on the blood becauseyou're in a state of panic?
I'm curious.
That's just a thought that cameto me.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
That's super curious.
I have no idea, but that wouldbe super fascinating to know.
That's super curious.
I have no idea, but that wouldbe super fascinating to know.
I don't know, I don't know, Iknow that.
Um, you know, we had the oneshe just told me last night
because she had her blood draw.
She and she had gone to adifferent, just a lab of one of
them, and she was like, oh mygosh, she's like I have never
experienced a blood draw likethis.
Yeah, it's like I didn't evenknow that I get all like tense
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when I go.
She didn't have an unknowntrauma and but she was like
she's like.
I was just so calm and before Iknew it, I felt the poking was
done and I'm like that,stephanie is amazing, she's yeah
she is amazing, oh my gosh.
Speaker 1 (33:09):
Well, you guys have other modalities.
I know you talked about somatic.
What is that?
If somebody was kind of like,what is, what is she talking
about with somatic?
Speaker 2 (33:19):
Yeah.
So somatic just means like thebody in a release, and so it's
getting more and more popular, Ithink since the book the Body
Keeps a Score came out, howeverlong ago, and people really
starting to understand thattrauma really does just stay in
our bodies.
So whenever we feel trapped orwe are not able to finish a body
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movement, that trauma can stay.
So, for example, let's saysomeone walks up to me and grabs
my arms and restrains my armsand I can't punch them, so I
don't finish my defensephysically in my body.
That trauma could or could not,but it could stay in my arms.
And so through somatic bodywork we allow that to finish
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that.
Um, we don't do the punchingarm, but we finish that action
to actually get the trauma torelease out of the arm.
You'll see animals in nature.
If they go under, have atraumatic experience, they'll
shake it off.
They'll shake it.
It's their nervous systemshaking out the trauma in their
body and and we don't do that,we're not allowed to cry it out.
Crying is good, to just cry outour trauma.
You know, physically thechemicals in our eyes release
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and so we're aware.
And so with the somatic bodywork it's amazing We'll just lay
hands, let's say it was on myarm, and usually a person it's
not talk or anything.
Usually a person will say, ohmy gosh, I have this memory and
then, when that memory comes upin the arm, we'll let them, um,
release it, and then they'relike, oh my gosh, I feel so good
, so it's just like this hugesize.
(34:46):
So, um, that's what a smallpart of how somatic body work
works.
We do it with through prayer,we do it from a faith-based
perspective, definitely theprayer and the guidance of the
Holy spirit, um, and then thephysical release of trauma.
Speaker 1 (35:00):
Yeah Well, I almost this is kind of unusual that I
would do this but, um, I feellike somebody is to like,
actually do that action rightnow.
Like, is there, if you'rethinking of somebody who's
listening right now, is theresomething that maybe you're
seeing for them that they couldliterally shake off and then,
maybe walk them through that fora moment well what I would do,
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and if they didn't get so intheir head about it.
Speaker 2 (35:23):
But if you could, just, I would just take a deep
breath in, just blow it out.
Yeah, excuse me, I'm gonnacough no problem, yeah.
So I would just say, take a deepbreath in, blow it out and try
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and get your nervous system calmagain.
Just get some breath in yourbrain, blow it out, yeah.
And then I would just ask holyspirit, holy spirit, there's
something in my arms I need torelease.
And then, whatever you hear,don't question it, cause if it's
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right or wrong, it doesn'tmatter.
And um, and maybe you get amemory of when you were a kid
your brother grabbed your arm.
So you would just, you wouldjust say, okay, holy spirit,
what do I need to know about mybrother grabbing my arm?
Keep breathing.
Maybe you'd be like I was angryat him and I never got to say
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anything because I couldn't, youreally couldn't do anything.
And so you just feel that for aminute and you just, okay, I
really said anger against mybrother.
You just say it out loud andthen you literally just shake
your arms out and just shakethem off feels good for me right
now.
And you just shake them andshake them and shake them,
because your brother grabbedyour arm.
You can never just shake it offand you'd shake it until, and
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all of a sudden, you'll know, oh, that that left, yeah, and then
it feels better yeah solistener is.
Speaker 1 (36:59):
I would love to hear it.
I'm sure reach out to holly ifyou experience something, of
course, but um, and I'veexperienced that myself within
the last year of doing some ofthis you know somatic release
work and it's at first I waslike me you want me to do what?
But it is so powerful.
Um, like you said, I saw avideo years ago of um.
It must've been like a gazellebeing attacked by a mountain
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lion or something like aravenous animal and it played
dead.
Yeah, and then, once it wassafe, it literally like shook
itself out.
Yeah, it's like, wow, that isso incredible.
Speaker 2 (37:35):
Like, again, this is not stuff that you would be told
at your physician's office andthe really cool thing about that
is, um, we do it in an hoursession and obviously we guide
the Holy spirit, but it didn't.
We didn't have to talk aboutthe brother thing, we didn't
have to sit and dwell on it, wedidn't have to whatever, we just
had to let the memory come, letthe Holy spirit release it and
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then physically shake it andthat's.
You know, it's amazing how muchpeople feel better, um, just by
doing that.
And I, I, I'm all for talktherapy, I really am.
But I think we're over-talkedand sometimes we're talking
things over and over again andcementing them in, and and
sometimes some of these otherthings can just release things
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that you didn't have to.
Um, yeah, all on and over andover again.
So there's a place for all ofit.
It's just that these kinds ofthings aren't talked about.
Yeah Well, what other?
And over again.
So there's a place for all ofit.
It's just that these kind ofthings aren't talked about.
Speaker 1 (38:28):
Yeah, Well, what other modalities do you have?
Because I know I've been ableto experience some of the other
modalities that you offer and Iwould love to hear just kind of
the why behind, like thedifferent offerings, the you
know, we go to a restaurant,there's a menu and right there's
different items on the menu andtypically there's a reason that
you pick different things.
So tell us more about what elseyou offer.
(38:52):
And then what?
What is it behind it?
What is the why behind it?
Yeah, and the why.
Speaker 2 (38:59):
So our primary service is obviously the the
nutrition response testing.
But then we have what we callit our therapeutics, and that is
where we have.
We have, we have our officesover here and then we have the
therapeutic side over there andthat's where we do things to
help your body kind of heal inother ways.
So we have the sauna.
Everybody knows how great thesauna is for detox and helping
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your body release things.
We have red light therapy inthe sauna, so you get it all at
once and in the red lighttherapy is so good for your
cellular regeneration, healingyour body, all the things from
that standpoint.
Then we also have the salttherapy.
So halo therapy, salt therapy.
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They found.
They found that, um, coalminers and salt miners.
You know, a hundred years agothe coal miners had so much
respiratory issues, um, and thelongevity of life was horrible.
But the salt miners had majorlongevity of life.
They had great health, greatskin, great respiratory, all the
things.
So they studied it later andrealized all of the healing um
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things with salt, regarding withsalt, regarding reducing
inflammation, all of thebenefits to respiratory, all the
benefits to skin, even mood,and so that's why we have a salt
room where there's a generatorthat just puts super small
particles of salt in the air, soyou just breathe it in, you
can't even see it, sometimes youcan taste it.
And then our sauna also hassalt in it.
So you just breathe it in, youcan't even see it, sometimes you
can taste it.
And then our sauna also hassalt in it.
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So our sauna you can get salt,red light and sauna all at once,
which is fantastic.
And then we have what's calleda pulse electromagnetic field
mat, pemf mat, and that is agrounding mat.
That is really good to one tohelp your nervous system ground
chronic pain, stiffness, nervedamage, fatigue.
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That's probably I don't know,they're all my favorite, but I
have a PMF mat.
I do it every day just toground myself, yeah, yeah.
Then we have a Qi machine thatis for lymphatic drainage.
It's this machine that swaysyour feet back and forth, kind
of feel like a fish, but ithelps your body drain and helps
with chronic fatigue,inflammation, nerve pain, joint
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pain, circulation feels like youjust get done from a run, yeah,
good.
And then let's see what else.
Oh, then the ionic foot bath.
So that is where you put yourfeet in.
The ionic signals pull toxinsout of your feet into the water.
So the water will start outwhite and by the end it'll go.
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It'll either change brown orgreen or black, depending on
what's pulling out of your body,and so we just live in a highly
toxic world, no matter what Ourbody needs help removing all of
this, and so that I love that.
That helps people sleep better,helps detox.
It removes toxins out of yourbody, brain fog, all those kind
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of things, and then, yeah, Ithink that's it.
So those are the extra servicesthat we provide over there.
And what we call our living roomuh, it's healing house, so
that's a big room that has um,and then we do a ton of classes
here.
So we really believe in um,educating and actually
discipling people.
So, um, we do um, like we didan emmanuel journaling class, we
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actually have one coming up onthe 12th a day long of really
teaching people how to hear thevoice of god in a gentle way.
The person who's teaching thather name is Jane Grant-Daben.
She is absolutely amazing andgifted in calming the nervous
system down so that we reallycan slow down enough to hear God
speaking to us, because Ibelieve God for sure speaks
through the Bible, but he'sspeaking to us in so many ways
(42:42):
we're just not hearing it.
So that is one of our favoriteclass favorites.
Like people, there's a waitinglist for that one all the time.
We just opened that one up.
So, um other classes, we'vedone our dream interpretation
classes.
I might teach a class on how tohear the voice of god and how
to how to have propheticministry in a way that is not um
is honoring to people.
I think sometimes it's misused.
(43:03):
Um, um wisdom around propheticministry, um oh gosh, I don't
know we do so many.
We always have to just look atour website to see what is
available.
We have worship nights and justit's a lot of fun here.
Speaker 1 (43:14):
Yes, um, well, tell us a little bit.
So we didn't touch on thenutrition response testing.
Um, somebody might be wondering, like what is that?
That's a big deal.
Speaker 2 (43:25):
Yeah, it's a big deal .
It's our primary service.
It's a big deal.
So we use your body.
I believe our bodies are atemple of God.
I believe our bodies, given theright resources, nutrition,
environment, everything, reallyshould be able to heal
themselves.
In fact, for the last howevermany years, up to a couple
hundred years ago, we didn'thave the doctors, we didn't have
anything.
Our bodies healed and so we gotin the way.
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And so there's things that arestressing our bodies, that are
affecting our bodies fromhealing.
So we get to the root cause bysaying why isn't your body
working the way God made it andwhy isn't it healing?
We do it through pushing onyour muscle, and your muscle has
a certain response when we putcertain things around it.
And so it's kind of like if Iwere to hook you up to a people
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are this is really common If Ihooked you up to a lie detector
machine, asked you certainquestions, the lie detector
would would analyze maybe yourheart rate, increase your blood
pressure, increase your sweatglands, and it would give an
output based on your body'snatural automatic responses.
That's what we did throughmuscle testing.
Was they put certain things onyour body just like a lie
detector and your, your muscle,will have an automatic response
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and that gives me information.
So I'm trained to read that.
So I, your God-given body, is,it knows and it wants to heal.
And then we figure out, okay,why.
Why?
The first thing we test is isyour nervous system functioning
the way it should?
So a lot of what we do versusother healing modalities is we
test your autonomic nervoussystem a little bit, what we
talked about before.
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And if your nervous system isblocked, your body's not even
able to heal.
Most people, when they have ablocked nervous system, they
feel stuck.
They feel like they've gone todoctor after doctor and nothing
works.
They just usually theirlanguage is that, like I, just
feel stuck.
Symptoms of a blocked nervoussystem are, let's say, you are
trying to lose weight and youare doing all the right things
You're exercising, working out,doing other things but you
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cannot get that scale to move.
It could just be nervous systemis blocked and once we unblock
it, all of a sudden the weightcomes off because you're doing
the right things.
Yeah.
So from there, we test theblocked nervous system.
Then we test is your nervoussystem switched?
That's a state of confusion.
That's when you're either stuckin fight or flight and can't
get out, or you're stuck andshut down and can't get out, and
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so when you're in a state ofconfusion, we test that and that
keeps your body from healing.
Well that, if you have aswitched nervous system, that
same person is trying to loseweight.
They could be doing all theright things eating right,
working out, doing everythingbut they're gaining weight.
They're having the oppositereaction.
So we test for both thosethings, and so once we fix and
make sure that their nervoussystem is working correctly,
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people tend to get results, andthen, when they're doing the
right things eating and doingthings they're actually getting
the results that they wanted.
So that's our primary service,where we see the most healing,
and then, yeah, I absolutelylove it.
Speaker 1 (46:08):
Yeah, and I would say like I think, if I'm
remembering correctly, like Icame in blocked and every time
I've come in for my follow-upappointments I'm not blocked,
yeah, which can be superfrustrating as one who's been.
I mean I eat really well, Iwork out all the time and you
can like.
(46:29):
Honestly, it can be sofrustrating because you wonder,
like what's wrong with me, likethat was the question, like
what's wrong with me?
Like why, and you, you can, youcan get into some comparison
too.
It's like, well, what Lord?
Why am I like this?
Like what, what's wrong with me?
Because you go for years andyears of you know, knowing that
(46:49):
you're doing the right thingquote unquote and yet there's
just this missing element thatcan literally like to me.
It feels like what have I beengoing there for?
I don't know six or eight, eightweeks or something, and I'm
like dang, this is just wild.
Speaker 2 (47:07):
It's so cool because it really was.
Your nervous system was blocked.
Your body was not working foryou, it was working against you,
and so it is very frustratingand feel self-defeating and
discouraging because people aretrying to do right things.
Now, if you're still eating allthis stuff, that is a different
conversation, but if it's justyour nervous system is blocked,
(47:29):
we find that once we get peopleto feel the difference, this is
what it's like when your body isworking the way god intended.
We are made for so much more.
Oh gosh, I feel like I'llsettle.
I think people are thinking, oh, my gosh, I don't need to sleep
eight hours, it's okay.
I wake up all the time.
I don't need to go to thebathroom once a day, it's okay.
Like people are living at statusquo and mediocrity.
They don't even know it becausethey don't know.
No one's come into them andsaid no, actually there is more
for you and there's a way to getyou to experience more wellness
(47:52):
, vitality.
Our bodies are sacred.
We want to be able to use themthe way God intended and we're
settling because not because weknow, because I think no one
said no, that's not normal.
No, it's normal to be fatiguedall the time.
It's not normal to be tired.
It's not normal to go to thebathroom only once or twice a
week and you go to the doctorsnow because of how sick
everybody is, they've had tonormalize things.
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That's not normal.
You should be going to thebathroom twice a day just to get
eliminate toxins out of yourbody.
So I feel like we're raisingthe bar like no, you're made for
more and we can fix things andyou can walk in full abundance
and freedom, vitality, and we'rehere to partner with you and
your goals and how you want toget there, and tell you what
your body's saying so you canmake the best decision, yes, and
(48:36):
just think like that's one ofmy favorite things, like there's
more, it's time to soar Right.
Speaker 1 (48:40):
Oh yeah, I love.
I saw on your website that youyou carry that message as well,
because when you feel wellyou're more prone to go do the
thing that God's calling you todo.
Speaker 2 (48:49):
When you're tired you're.
Speaker 1 (48:50):
You're probably going to be more of a bench warmer.
Speaker 2 (48:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (48:53):
He's calling us off the bench.
He's calling us to betrailblazers and pioneers, and I
get really passionate aboutthis and I'm thankful that he's
given me like the resilience andthe tenacity to keep going,
even though I have had years of,you know, a lot of physical
symptoms but then also somespiritual stuff that was really
trying to push me back and keepme back and keep you know.
(49:17):
If somebody is listening andyou're hearing this, you're like
that.
That's me Like reach out toHolly, reach out to Holly.
And if you're not in this area,do you have like resources or
somewhere where you can pointpeople, like in the United
States?
Or I mean I had somebody fromEngland yesterday that I pointed
to somebody because I love, youknow, helping people get that
(49:40):
inner healing that they're ableto get.
But do you have other you knowresources that you can share
with people that would maybepoint them, let's say, if they
live in Florida, or you knowGeorgia, you know.
Speaker 2 (49:53):
I do and on you know the, the way, the modality we're
anyway, when you're in holistichealth.
I just want to say this thereare places that have taken it.
That's not biblical and thereneeds to be discernment of like.
Oh my gosh, somatic body workthat hurts this really good
thing on this podcast here andyou find somebody who they're
partnering with matters, and soit's really important to have
(50:14):
discernment of like.
Okay, if we're partnering withthe Holy Spirit.
The Holy Spirit is a source ofeverything we're doing and we're
praying and we're doing thosekinds of things.
But you know there's otherplaces, are not that are just
worldly or new agey or whatever,and so be cautious.
I really feel like, as far astrailblazing, I really feel like
I'm trailblazing a place inthis that taking back what the
(50:35):
enemy has stolen, that God madeour bodies but that you know,
other places, without sourcingthe Holy Spirit, have stolen.
So we definitely do haveresources, if you're curious,
and also just an ability to belike okay, these are really good
questions to ask yourpractitioner to make.
Like you know, someone will say, oh, I saw this person and my
goal and I'll just tell them.
(50:56):
Make sure, if you feel at peaceand I felt good about like well
, you got to ask these questionsbecause I don't think they have
bad intentions or anything.
But we need to be discerning onthose kind of things,
absolutely.
Speaker 1 (51:10):
Well, you have just shared so much goodness today
and I would love for you to justshare.
If you have any, you know, justget somebody in mind today
that's listening.
If you have any encouragingwords for them, any wisdom that
you'd like to speak over them,would you be open to sharing
that and then would you pray usout today?
Speaker 2 (51:28):
Yeah, I would, yeah, definitely.
You know, I really feel likewhat you just said and it aligns
with your mission about we'remade for more and we really are
made to soar.
I think not only just in ourpersonal lives, our day to day,
but I feel like the Lord isdoing a lot, even just in our
personal lives, our day-to-day.
But I feel like the Lord isdoing a lot even just in in our
(51:50):
communities, in our state, inour nation, and it's a new
season for a new time, and we,as Christians, really need to be
healed and whole, to walk outthe the call that God has for us
and to really be soaring.
And so, um, I just want peopleto encourage they are made for
more, there is more.
You are loved, you are known,you are seen.
(52:12):
Your spiritual battles thatyou're dealing with, oftentimes
in secret, you don't know.
There is freedom, there isdeliverance.
God does set the captives free.
Your health journeys that feellike a doctor after doctor or
whatever god does heal, I have.
I tell people all the time Ihave faith in the room to hold
that god is a god who heals.
(52:33):
He heals the brokenhearted, herestores and and we're all on
this journey, in differentseasons of either holding on to
a promise that isn't fulfilledyet or living out a promise that
has been fulfilled.
And so I feel like the Lord hasgiven me, with my family's own
health journey, finally to theother side, over 20 years of no,
I can tell you, hold on to myfaith.
(52:53):
God does heal, god does restore.
My kids are maybe still havedisabilities and stuff, but he
was whole.
He's made them whole.
They are beautifully andwonderfully made.
He's brought restoration.
He has a job.
He's a god who is in a journeyto bring healing to his people,
to draw them closer to himself,because he loves us.
So I don't know, that's what Ihave.
I'll just close in prayer foranybody who's listening.
(53:16):
I feel I feel the lord always.
I always feel like whoever thelord brings in front of me I
always know is for a reason anda purpose and it's just my job
to partner with holy spirit ofwhy they're in front of me.
So I feel any person who'slistening, it's for a reason and
a purpose.
Heavenly Father, we praise you,we thank you.
I thank you, god, for Kristen.
I thank you, god, for herjourney.
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I thank you, god, for hertenacity, her trailblazing, her
determination.
I thank you, god, that shealways gets up.
She always gets back up and sheknows that you have called her
to soar on eagle's wings.
I thank you, god, that she'snot one just to soar alone, but
that she's one to bring others,that she wants to soar on
(53:58):
eagle's wings, lord, but thatshe wants more to soar, and that
she's on mission and thecalling you have for her.
Thank you, god, for the healingthat you brought in her body.
Lord, the continued healingthat you have for her.
Pray for every single personwho's listening.
Heavenly Father, I just pray,god, you would touch them right
now.
I pray, god, that they wouldfeel your presence, even at the
sound of my voice.
I pray God, that they wouldknow that you are a God who
still works in power andauthority, that you are not just
(54:27):
asleep upstairs, but that youare actually here, actively
reaching out to your children.
I thank you, god, that you area god, that you want to heal the
broken heart.
I just keep hearing that hewants to heal the broken hearted
.
So I pray, heavenly father,that you would just touch them
and feel your presence.
They would know they're loved,seen and heard.
May you bless them and keepthem.
May your face shine upon themand be gracious towards them.
(54:49):
May your conscience be towardsthem and fill them with your
peace.
Your name I pray for amen amen,holly.
Speaker 1 (55:01):
How can people get a hold of you?
What is the best way for themto reach out to you to hear more
about his healing house?
I'll be sure to add it to theshow notes, but is there a
website?
What's the best way?
Speaker 2 (55:12):
Hishealinghouseorg.
Some people ask why is it hishealing house?
Speaker 1 (55:16):
Holly, you should have asked you that question.
Tell us if you have a second.
Tell us the name.
Speaker 2 (55:21):
It's his healing house, Cause this is God's
healing house.
It really is, and it's one ofthose things.
If you know, you know.
It's like you know.
If you know it's his healinghouse, this is his house, it's
all for him.
Speaker 1 (55:33):
So his healing houseorg?
Okay, and then can they reachout to you personally if they
had questions.
Okay, absolutely.
I know you guys offer discoverycalls, so could you just touch
on that really quickly.
Speaker 2 (55:51):
If you want to learn more and have questions.
It's a 15 minute free call.
You talk to me specificallywhen you sign up for that and,
yeah, I just kind of ask, answerany questions and we really
want people to feel excited andat peace about this is the right
, the next step for them.
So, yeah, sign up for discoverycall.
If you're interested in some ofour ministry stuff on our
website it's called Living RoomEvents.
That's some of our ministryclasses that we have, but
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otherwise just check our website.
Speaker 1 (56:14):
Yeah, definitely check it out.
Follow along.
Well, thank you so much forbeing on.
I'm going to close with ouranchoring verse over Hope
Unlocked.
May the God of hope fill youwith all joy and peace in
believing so that, by the powerof the Holy Spirit, you may
abound in hope.
I love that word abound.
That's Romans 15, 13.
So thank you, holly, for beinga brave voice.
(56:45):
Who's setting so many free?
And I will be back with anotherepisode next week.
We'll talk to you later.
Bye, thank you.
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