September 1, 2025 • 54 mins
In this episode of Hope Unlocked, Kristin Kurtz welcomes back Amy Dial, founder of Fit for the Kingdom Outreach, to celebrate the release of her new book Ring of Fire. Amy shares the powerful story behind the book—her near-abortion testimony, the tactics of the enemy, and how Jesus redeemed her story with hope, healing, and restoration. Written as both memoir and ministry tool, Ring of Fire exposes lies, reveals truth, and points readers to their identity in Christ. If you’ve wrestled with shame, fear, or unanswered questions about your worth, this conversation will ignite hope and inspire you to pick up Ring of Fire today.
Want to hear more from Amy? Don’t miss her powerful testimony in Episode 108 of Hope Unlocked - It’s the perfect companion to today’s conversation and a deeper look into her journey.
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Ring of Fire: A Journey Through Pain, Purpose, and God's Power to Restore
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Speaker 1 (00:16):
Welcome to the Hope Unlocked podcast.
I'm your host, Kristen Kurtz,and I'm also the founder of New
Wings Coaching.
I help and empower wildheartedand adventurous women of faith
feeling caged and stuck, unlocktheir true purpose and potential
, break free from limitationsand thrive with confidence,
courage and hope.
If you're curious to learn moreabout coaching with me, head to
newwingscoachingnet and be sureto explore the show notes for
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ways to connect with me further.
Get ready to dive in as weuncover empowering keys and
insights in this episode.
So tune in and let's unlockhope together.
Welcome to the Hope Unlockedpodcast.
I'm Kristen Kurtz, your host.
I pray this episode is like aholy IV of hope for your soul.
Please help me.
Welcome Amy Dial to the show.
I'm so, so, so excited to haveher here today.
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She was back with me on episode108, if you want to go, listen
to her amazing, amazing,powerful testimony.
But, Amy, before we get intowhy you're here again today,
could you just tell us a littlebit about yourself?
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Yes, thank you so much for having me back.
It's always an honor to comeand speak with you.
So I am Amy Dial, I am thefounder of Fit for the Kingdom
Outreach and I have a ministrythat utilizes faith-filled
fitness.
If you want to call it that, wesay it's movement with a
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message.
I get to host women's bootcamps and different training
groups where I get to preach thegospel to them and it's all
Holy Spirit led, holy Spiritordained.
I sit with the Lord before myworkouts, I get the format, I
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get the message, I even get themusic lineup.
So it is an amazing way to getthe word down in our bodies
while we're moving.
And now he is expanding Fit forthe Kingdom Outreach.
So it started as a fitnessministry, but now he is
expanding the reach.
I have just completed my firstbook, which is my testimony, and
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that's what we're going to betalking about today.
I'm so excited.
It's Ring of Fire and it is astory of my personal testimony.
We'll talk about it more later,but from cover to cover it
shows the tactics and the plans,exposes the tactics and the
plans of the enemy and itreveals the answer has always
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been, is always and will alwaysbe Jesus Christ, and it just
highlights over and over thatour identity and value and worth
come from Him, not from ourmistakes or things that happened
to us.
What we walked through wherethe enemy would.
His whole goal is to try to usethat to hold us back from
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intimate relationship with thefather, and so I'm very excited
that we it's been about a twoyear process.
It's been quite a struggle.
The Lord was walking me throughmy own identity crisis, my own
matters of healing anddeliverance for sure, and just
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opening up my voice, continuingto make connections with people
like yourself that arekingdom-oriented, kingdom-minded
and have helped me walk thejourney to healing and hope and
restoration and encouraging meto release my voice.
So I thank you for that.
I love that we get to worktogether Personally through
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individual coaching.
It has been an intricate partof seeing this.
You've been an intricate partof seeing this book come to
birth, so I thank you so muchfor that because I don't think
without you that I would be heretoday.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
So well, it's been such a joy to come alongside you
.
I, you know, I've been toutedkind of a spiritual midwife to
help, you know, bring things tothe world.
And you know my, my heart isthat women wouldn't self abort
these callings and the thingsthat he's called us to bring to
the world, because it's sobeyond us, isn't it?
Speaker 2 (04:26):
Yes, it is.
It is and it's beautiful thatyou have been such a spiritual
midwife to me in this, becausewhen the Lord calls us to
something especially as powerfulas what he's called me to, it's
not something that we can do onour own.
And I think about that verse inZechariah I think it's 4.6,
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where he says not by might, notby power, but by my Spirit, says
the Lord, and we definitelyneed to be Holy Spirit-led and
guided and directed.
But also we need to beconnected with other
kingdom-minded builders andcoaches and things to lift the
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kingdom up together, because wecan't carry that on our own
shoulders.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
Absolutely Like I think of you know we're not
called to be isolated.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
Oh, we're not.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
I mean, I've had visions before of like seeing
women try to birth their babieson their own and it's like that
doesn't go well.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
No, it doesn't go well.
And then what happens whenthere's complications?
And who's going to coach youalone when you want to give up?
Because I'm telling you thatthe enemy of our soul has given
me so many opportunities to quit, to give up, to just hang my
head in defeat.
But I knew what the Lord calledme to and I knew I had given
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Him my yes when he startedtalking to me about these things
and also rising me up as akingdom speaker and making
connections and opening doorsfor me to go preach and speak in
different places.
He was working out with me theverse connections and opening
doors for me to go preach andspeak in different places.
He was working out with me theverse Revelations 12, 11.
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It says, you know, basically,it says that we overcome by the
blood of the Lamb and the wordof our testimony, the power of
the blood of the Lamb and theword of our testimony.
But I would always stop at thefirst part of that verse because
when I gave the Lord my yes towriting my testimony and putting
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it in a book, I was like, yes,lord, I'll do it.
But I didn't really want tothink about the last part of
that verse.
I really had to work throughthat.
The Lord really had to dealwith me about that, because
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until I was able to say thatverse to completion and to mean
it, still do it, because thecost of not doing it is
something that I can't live with.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
Yeah, absolutely.
So you said this was like atwo-year process for you.
Do you remember, like themoment when he like basically I
don't know if he gave you avision of a book or what was it
Like?
I'm just kind of like, let'sbacktrack a little bit to the
beginning of um, how this cameto be.
Like what was that birthannouncement?
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You know we've got the birthcoming here, but it's yeah,
redates coming.
But that initial like what didthat look like for you?
Because I feel like somebodyout there is listening and it's
like, yeah, you know, maybe I'msupposed to do that too but, I
don't know.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
Well, it was not a.
I just woke up one day and thelight went on.
He began talking to me about itfor quite a while and it was
roughly about a year and a halfto two years ago when it got,
and I knew I was always in theback of my mind yes, I'll do
that and I'm excited to do that,but I just kind of like I'll
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get to it later or I need to beat a better spot before I start
and that's just a stall tacticby the enemy Sometimes.
In my case, it was fear thatI've never written a book before
.
I'm not qualified, I don't knowanything about it.
When the problem was, I wasstill trying to apply it in my
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own strength and not by theSpirit of the Lord, and he
really was working with me forquite a while and I just kept
getting more and more convictionuntil finally, one day I was
like, okay, well, just keptgetting more and more conviction
until finally, one day I waslike, okay, well, I don't want
to be the mom that says to herkids on her deathbed.
You know, the Lord alwayswanted me to write a book and I
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know there was someone out therethat needed to read it.
I hope you guys do better thanme when the Lord gives you an
assignment.
I didn't want to be that kind ofmom.
I wanted to leave a legacywhere they would know and I even
talk about this in theacknowledgments of my book
specifically aimed at mygranddaughter.
But I want the same for my kids.
I want them to know that whenthe Lord calls you to do hard
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things, you can do it.
And, as a matter of fact, youneed to do it, because there
will be no peace when the Spiritis urging you to do something.
There will be no peace and Idon't want to face Him when I go
before Him and Him say listen,there were tons of women who
needed your book, either toavoid an abortion or to get
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healing from their abortion.
Their relationship with me hasbeen destroyed by it because
they think they're unredeemable.
Why weren't you faithful to dowhat you did?
And I just couldn't.
I couldn't live like that and Ithought about myself in that
moment when I went through it,if I would have had someone to
talk to, because my experiencehappened in November 2005.
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And the premise of the story isthat I almost aborted my son.
He's now 19 and serving in theArmy.
But I was in the abortionclinic within minutes of going
through the procedure and theLord showed up and said remember
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who you are.
And I snapped to and got out ofthere.
But on the way out I saw thewomen who did not have the same
outcome.
I thought that the Lord showedme that to rub my nose in what I
almost did.
I didn't understand at that timethat he was showing me to
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reveal at a later date these arethe women you're called to
minister to, and so, because Iwill never forget their faces, I
couldn't sit on the assignmentat hand and finally, I just gave
my fear over to him.
I was like, okay, lord, you'regoing to have to do this and I
literally started.
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It's actually like I wasn't anauthor in the very beginning.
I was scribing what Holy Spiritit was.
I wonder if it's how they feltwhen they were writing the Bible
, because I was literally.
I was literally scribing in aGoogle Doc what Holy Spirit was
telling me and yeah, it was socool and I would sit back and
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look at it when I was done.
I'm like, wow, I can't believeit.
Yeah, holy Ghost Rider, I can'tbelieve we just did that.
And then it evolved over timeand we eventually got it into a
more palatable format andcleaned some things up, because
it was it was pretty rough, likeI was writing down exactly as
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fast as I could what he wassaying and um.
So we fixed the grammaticalerrors and made it look more
aesthetically pleasing.
And as it evolved he kepttaking it further and further
back, because I thought theoriginal premise of the story
was my testimony and I was likeI don't know how we're really
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going to make a book.
I mean, it's an incredibletestimony, but I don't know how
we're going to make an entirebook from it.
So I'm thinking like maybe abooklet or something, something
smaller.
But as I gave him my yes andwas faithful to sit down pretty
much every day not every singleday, but I would do it in chunks
where I would sit with it for awhile and we would go, and then
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he'd let me rest for a whileand I'd go back to it, it was so
patient and faithful.
And what he kept doing as itevolved is he was taking it
further and further and furtherback to the beginning.
So the original book actuallyopens with what happened in the
garden, with the original sin,and that was not part of my plan
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, so that was totally him.
But it's the framework that helaid to reveal, in my case, how
I got to where I was, because Iwas raised in the church but I
only had religion.
I didn't have a relationship,and he took me all the way back
to where it started, where itstarted in the garden, when
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Satan tempted Eve.
That was the original sin thatsevered, potentially severed for
everyone, pretty much foreveryone.
It severed our intimacy withGod, the Father, and so we are
perpetually in a place of tryingto get back there, but it's the
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blood of Jesus that brings usback there, and so I was able to
highlight that show the tacticsand show how, over and over and
over, satan does the same thingto us all, and he'll keep
throwing something until itsticks, but it's the same thing.
The original sin is a sin ofpride, and it starts with a
thought that he puts in yourmind and then you question God's
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sovereignty.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
Yeah, exactly, and it just makes me think of you know
that word, like that fiery wordthat he spoke over.
You remember who you are andwouldn't you say, like one of
the massive, like identitycrisis questions that the enemy
will throw at you is who do youthink you are?
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Absolutely, absolutely.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
Who do you think you are?
Absolutely, absolutely.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
Who do you think you are to even try to write a book?
Speaker 2 (14:30):
Absolutely.
Well, let me tell you what doyou want to say about that?
Well, what I want to say aboutthat is it's not up to us to
remember who we are.
It's up to us to understand andremember who God says we are,
because he has the finalauthority and the final word.
My thoughts and my ideas can bemessed with by Satan if I allow
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it.
If I'm not standing in myauthority and my identity as a
daughter of the king, but if Idon't yet know him, like for the
woman who's reading the bookthat's not yet a daughter of the
King, she doesn't have thatidentity yet.
Um, it was given to her atbirth, but, like I said, we all
have sinned and fallen short.
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So that identity was severedand blocked from our
understanding, manipulated,perverted, however you want to
say it.
And until she comes to the fullunderstanding of, no, I'm made
in the image of God and this iswho God says I am, and I've got
to accept Jesus Christ to beable to stand in that authority
and be washed in His blood, thenI can turn around and remind
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the enemy who God says I am.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
Yes, amen.
I mean, come on, I feel likethere's some gold in the books
that you in the to sharing withus.
Um, do you have the book infront of you that you could
share?
Just maybe a little sneak peek,yeah let me pull it up.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
It's on my computer.
We don't have the printed copyyet.
We are currently um off to thereplication.
Um, there's so much, let me see.
Um, there's so much, let me see.
Oh Lord, where do you want togo?
Um, well, I think, like for formy book.
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Um, like I said, the Lord tookus, took me back to the
beginning with what the gardenlooked like and how it was
supposed to be.
Um, one of the things to sharefrom that was when the Lord
banned Adam and Eve from thegarden and he told Adam you're
going to have to work, you'rebasically going to have to work
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by the sweat of your brow.
You're going to have to toiland work and, you know, do all
the things to keep um, to keeptaking dominion, cause we
originally were ordered to tomultiply and to take dominion.
We're still ordered to takedominion, but now it's not that
free and easy life that, um,that we were given in the garden
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automatically, so we've got toget back there through the blood
of Jesus.
And so when the Lord told Adamokay, you're going to have to
toil, you're going to have towork, that is a prophetic
picture for us.
For what?
Because that involved himtilling the ground, uprooting,
pulling out weeds, watering thesoil, tending the soil, turning
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it over daily.
To me that's a propheticpicture of our willingness to be
submissive to the Holy Spirit,to be in the Word, to continue.
It's not a one and donesituation.
We've got to continually.
There's not striving, but we'vegot to continually maintain
that relationship and throughthat relationship, and through
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that relationship and theleading of the Holy Spirit,
those things will come to pass.
Sometimes it's painful it is,sometimes it's not, as it's not
as difficult to to maybe tendthe ground as others.
We're kind of flowing in thespirit and things are.
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Things are seeming easier, soto speak, but there's a
continual movement, a continualbusting up the foundation.
When we're led by the HolySpirit it's much easier.
But sometimes it's a painfulprocess because there are some
deep-seated things, wounds inour heart, maybe false beliefs,
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ideologies, wrong, wrongtheology, which I was absolutely
subscribing to for a largeportion of my life.
Those things have to really bedealt with by the Holy Spirit
and it's not always.
It's not always a pain-freeprocess.
It's a beautiful process, butthere's, there's effort to it.
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And then he tells Eve you'regoing to basically have pain in
childbirth, and so to me that islike our process of deliverance
, because, think of it, you'retalking about Eve's delivery
process.
So when we're gettingdeliverance from the Holy Spirit
and he's reshaping our heart,reforming our thoughts, there's
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definite pain in the process,but it's evident to be birthed
into that new, healed creationthat he makes for us.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
Yes, that he makes for us, yes, and I, I just you
know, I have to say just, evenin the time that I've known you
and worked with you, like the,the growth and the.
I like to call it like a superbloom.
Um, it's a phenomenon, trulyit's.
It's an amazing phenomenon.
If you guys don't know what asuper bloom is, go check it out.
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But just the ways that he'sworked in you and you've really
grabbed on to the identity ofwho he's called you to be, to
boldly go out there and you knowspeak your truth that he has
given you to release your soundin the world in an area that, um
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, really there's a war.
there's a war on the womb andthere's a war on life, and
there's just so much confusionin this world that, um, I'm just
so proud of everything that hehas.
Um, how do you just step intoand you just continually give
your yes, Thank you.
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So what would you say to you?
Know, the woman who's listeningin today that she's just had a
hesitant?
Yes, she knows that she's gotsomething that she's called to
or build, but she's justhesitating.
She's like I don't really know,Like I'm not, I'm not, I'm not
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the right one, I don't know howto do this.
Like, what would you say to her?
Speaker 2 (21:24):
Well, first of all, I would say to her I completely
understand, and so does so doesGod, but that does not get you
off the hook, so to speak, withwhat he's called you to do,
because every single one of usand I even talk about this in
the book every single one of us,when we are formed in our
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mother's womb as infants or ascoming to be creations, the Lord
deposits everything that weneed to fulfill what he's going
to call us to do.
And I used to think of it likethis.
I used to think, oh, while hewas forming me, he was taking a
little of this and a little ofthis and a little of this,
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putting it together, and one dayhe would call me to walk in all
that I've been created for.
But I now come to understand itwe're made in His image, right,
and when we are made, every oneof us is made in His image,
whether we know Him as our Lordand Savior or we don't.
We are all made with the sameopportunity to come back to
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relationship that was lost inthe garden.
Everybody has the sameopportunity, regardless of how
they came to be or thecircumstances they're born into,
or whatever.
The Lord is not slack concerningHis promises, and he promises
that Jesus is the way, the truthand the life, and he's not a
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respecter of persons.
So it's not well if you're borninto the right social class or
in the right location.
No, he went to the cross forevery single one of us, because
all of us have sinned and fallenshort of the glory, and so he
died for every single one of us,because all of us had sinned
and fallen short of the glory,and so he died for every single
one of us.
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Now, not all of us will receivehim, and he gives us free will
to do that, but whenever hecreates us and he makes us in
his image, each one of us hemakes unique and he puts
different characteristics ofhimself in us.
It's not something separate ofhimself, it is these particular
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characteristics of God.
Go into Kristen and theseparticular characteristics of
Amy.
Go into Amy, and at the righttime, our character, our
development and our timing willall come together and Holy
Spirit will say OK, now this isyour assignment, I want you to
go, do it, and he won't let usjust dismiss it.
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We'll continue to feel that tug.
We have a choice, we have freewill and we have a choice to
ignore it.
But we will be very unsettledand restless and will always be
coming back to us until we sayyes.
And if we choose not to, wewill always regret it because we
know deep down in our heartthat's what we were called to do
.
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And so I would say to her youdon't have to rely on yourself,
you just have to give yourselfover to those parts of God,
god's character, that wereplaced in you, because at the
right time, in the right seasonand when you are ready, holy
Spirit will open those doors andsay okay, go, this is what I
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want you to do.
But you've got to understandyou're not going in your own
strength.
As long as you submit to Himand His leadership, he opens the
doors and he walks throughfirst and he makes the
connections and you follow himby faith.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
Yes, so good, amy.
Oh my gosh, you just saidsomebody free.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
Come on, and I would add this to like I said before,
one day we are all going to haveto stand before him and I don't
think any of us want it on ourconscience that when we stand
before him, he to look at us andsay I had these people that
needed this and you were the onewho carried the anointing in
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the earth, why didn't you?
We're not going to have anywords for that.
There's going to be no words.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
Yeah, absolutely.
And I like to say to people allthe time too, is like there are
people literally waiting forwhat it is that you're called to
release.
For sure, there are peoplewaiting to read your book.
Amen, it's already like, it'salready in your book of life.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
Amen, and I know I needed it at the time that I was
walking through it and I didn'thave it.
So had had that book been beenthere, I don't think I would.
I know I wouldn't have walkedthrough because when I came out
of that abortion clinic with myson Well, my son's still in my
womb and all that I wasn't ableto come out victorious and
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excited.
And I still had years and yearsand years it was almost 17
years before I could even speakabout it Because in all those
years the enemy had me held inshame and condemnation and kept
taking me further and furtherand further down through my
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wrong decisions, because I wasdriven by fear, guilt and shame
and so because I didn't havethat when I needed it.
I don't want any woman to be inthat same situation.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
Yeah, well, and when you said, like when I had a
vision as you were talking, whenyou said, like when I had a
vision as you were talking, whenyou said that we know when we
stand before him, I was actuallyseeing him as we're stepping
out here and now, like thisworld releasing what it is that
he's calling us to release, Isaw him standing before us Wow,
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with us standing behind us.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
Yes, amen.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
Sometimes standing on his shoulders, for sure.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
And under his and under his adjoining, under his
wings, you know, because it'she's all encompassing and that's
the that's the whole crux ofthe book.
It's ring of fire he's alwaysbeen.
It's based on Zechariah 2.5.
It actually says Wall of Firein the Bible.
But when the Lord showed me, hewas taking me back in the Spirit
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to my time in the abortionclinic, because I kept asking
Him how did I get so close?
So close Because after thatabortion, that day I was going
to go home and commit suicide byhanging and I was married, had
three children at home, I hadhad an affair, extramarital
affair, and that's how I gotpregnant with my son.
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And so I was within moments ofdoing the unthinkable and I had
already made my decision.
The enemy already had had me onthe ropes.
So I had already made mydecision, okay, already had had
me on the ropes so long.
I'd already made my decisionOkay, when I go home I'm going
to end my life.
And I chose the most painfulpossible way because I thought
that I had to exude every ounceof suffering because of what I
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was about to do, was about to do, and I just I'm grateful that
the Lord, he, covered me.
He called me forth and I wasable to remember who I was and
come back to life, because I wascompletely taken over by the
enemy at that point completely.
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I'd just about given up hope.
But there is a reflex in thespirit Even whenever you've
completely let go of what youthink is any fragment of
yourself, hope still remains.
And I'm grateful for that,because there was just enough
hope in my spirit where I waslike because no one would look
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at me and I was weeping, weeping, weeping and no one would talk
to me.
They wouldn't look at me.
They were looking at the fatherof my child, talking to him,
and I remember thinking I justwish somebody would see me.
And in that instant Jesus showedup.
He saw me.
He saw me all the time.
He saw me walk in, he saw me doall the things, and that's when
I was asking him.
I was like Lord, how were we soclose?
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And you got us out.
And he showed me in the spiritthe very real demons that I was
seeing in there.
I didn't see them that day, butsince he's taken me back in the
spirit, I have seen them inopen visions and I would see
them dropping on to peoplewalking around, but they never
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got near me and I was asking himhow did I get so lucky?
How did I get so lucky?
And he expanded my vision and Isaw a ring of fire around me
and he said I was always thereprotecting you.
Now, he did not draw me intothe abortion clinic, he allowed
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me free will and my choiceslanded me there, but even in
there he was protecting me andguarding me.
And I think about thatscripture where David says in
Psalms.
David says even if I go down toSheol to hell, you're there.
And he was.
I was literally in hell thatday and he was there protecting
me.
So I'm so grateful for that.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
I mean in this message of of life, it's, it's
one of your main messages thatthere'd be that war on your life
and your choice I mean theenemy is such a punk seriously.
He definitely is.
You're a punk, seriously.
I mean he definitely is.
You're such a punk, seriously.
I mean I'm telling you.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
Well, I wanted to make sure that everybody knows
this podcast episode is going tobe releasing on your release
day, which happens to be whatday Happens to be Labor Day and
I was so surprised when HolySpirit told me because I was
trying to decide okay, what dayare we launching, what are we
(31:17):
going to do?
I knew I was getting close.
You know you can feel thosebirthing pains and I knew I was
getting close, braxton Hicks Ifelt like I was ready to pop and
I was starting to kind of panicand try to do things on my own,
which I tend to do sometimes,in my own, which I tend to do
sometimes, and the Holy Spirithas to tap me on the shoulder
gently and be like hello,remember, I'm your guide, I'm
(31:37):
your counselor.
Ask me.
And he did that.
And I asked him.
I said, okay, holy Spirit, whatday are you going to do it?
And instantly I heard it dropLabor Day.
I panicked when I heard thatbecause that was just a little
over a month away at the time.
I heard it and I was like no,like this Labor Day.
And he said, yeah, the time isright, labor Day.
(32:00):
And then I rejoiced because Ithought about it.
I was like that is so like Godto take what the enemy means for
evil, the weapons ofdestruction, and turn around and
put it back in his face becausethe enemy was trying to stop
the birth of my son and thislabor of love that the Lord has
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called me to.
And now the Lord's turningaround and being like guess what
, satan, we're launching onLabor Day.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
Exactly.
I love that you said like laborof love, because I was actually
my next question that I wantedto ask you was like what was,
what would you say was thebiggest labor of love in writing
this book?
And then how did?
Speaker 2 (32:44):
God show up in that process.
Oh, wow, the biggest labor oflove was when I was having to
recount my actual testimony invivid, vivid detail, because he
told me don't spare any details.
The truth needs to be told.
A large part of this purpose ofthis book is to expose.
It's all about exposing thetactics of the enemy and
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highlighting.
We're not just looking at thetactics of the enemy and giving
him a proverbial high five.
We are exposing the tactics ofthe enemy, but we're
highlighting the overcomer isJesus Christ, and this is the
purpose that he came to earthfor.
This is why he came to restorethings.
This is what he wants from us.
This is what he expects andhe's longing for.
(33:29):
This is his heart on the matter.
And so we glance at the enemy,but we gaze upon Jesus.
And I just want to be reallyclear about that because I don't
want anybody to get the ideathat we're highlighting Satan.
We're simply exposing histactics, how he aimed them at me
directly and how it reallyapplies to most.
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He does the same thing withmost of creation.
You can take your story andinsert it in.
The details will be different,but the playbook is pretty much
the same.
He doesn't have any new things.
He comes to kill, steal anddestroy.
That's his three things.
And so I would say my biggestlabor of love over it was when
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the Lord then that was thelongest part of the book.
The longest part of thestruggle was getting through my
testimony.
I've been able to tell mytestimony over and over and over
.
I can speak publicly about itin any venue.
I'm actually a leader for 40Days for Life, which is 40 days
of praying and fasting to seeinto an abortion.
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I'm a community leader in myarea, volunteer leader, and I'm
able to proclaim my testimonyorally.
But there was something, and Iwasn't prepared for this.
There was just something aboutseeing it in black and white
(34:59):
print and I did not know thatthat would be such a struggle.
And I really believe it'sbecause when I tell my story it
may or may not be forgotten,some of the details may or may
not be remembered, but when youwrite it down in black and white
print it is there for alleternity.
And it really took anotherlevel of healing and really
(35:27):
stepping out of the boat, likewe were talking about earlier,
by faith to say, lord, okay,you're going to have to get me
through this and I'm seeing itstare back at me, knowing that
everyone who knows me, loves me,has supported me, and most
especially my son that wasinvolved in the situation.
(35:47):
He's heard me talk about mystory over and over and over and
, before I even started speakingabout it publicly, I sat him
down and told him and I askedfor his forgiveness, which he
graciously gave me.
But just knowing that it'sgoing to be there for all
eternity, that was a next levelof oh God.
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I wasn't ready for this.
I could not have done itwithout the Holy Spirit, and it
took me such a long time.
I would start.
There would be new wounds andnew areas that I didn't even
know existed.
So it was actually a healingprocess for me.
I'm grateful for it because itbrought things to the surface
that were hidden in the recessesof my heart that I thought, hey
(36:33):
, we're all good, I'm able tospeak about it without getting
emotional.
Now I can get, I can speakabout it without crying and
breaking down, and that was sucha journey for me over the
course of that 17 years.
So I thought, well, I'mperfectly healed, I'm perfectly
good.
Years.
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So I thought, well, I'mperfectly healed, I'm perfectly
good, but there's always anotherlayer to be dealt with and it
was a difficult process.
I would have to stop A lot oftimes.
I would run to my prayer closetand just go to war in spirit.
In the prayer I would takecommunion, I would listen to
worship songs.
Sometimes I would take a walkwith the Lord and then we'd be
okay, we'd go back and we'd be alittle bit more.
And once it got out there, andafter I saw it and I stared at
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it, I was like, okay, thatpainful part that I didn't even
know was there, the Band-Aid'sbeen ripped off, there had been
some oozing and some bleedingaround it, but the Lord was
always so faithful to tend to mywounds and love on me and just
(37:40):
embrace me and I would hear Himsay I'm proud of you, you know.
And so that got me.
It was really like threechapters right in the middle of
the book that it was a moment bymoment situation, like I don't
know if I can do this, and ofcourse the enemy was going all
in with all the lies, all thetactics, all the attacks, and
(38:03):
the Lord would say put on yourarmor.
And I would run to my prayercloset and put it on and we
would get you know, and so Ithink that was probably the
biggest labor of love.
But I'm so, so, so, so gladthat we did it, because the book
would not be complete withoutit, and I know that there are
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women who need this book, andnot just women.
The church needs this bookbecause we tend to not talk
about the difficult things inthe body of Christ, and that has
to change.
This is what's considered bydefault, is considered a hidden
sin or the secret sin, and itcan't.
It can't be that way.
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That's how the enemy thrives,is in the darkness and we've got
to turn the light on.
We've got to have more peoplein the body of Christ to stand
up and say, hey, if you've, ifyou've dealt with this, it's
okay.
Jesus can heal you and redeemyou and restore you and
reconnect you.
Let me help you through that.
Speaker 1 (39:03):
Yes, yes, girl, oh my gosh.
I just want to say, likewhoever's listening right now,
absolutely Like this book isgoing to shift and even as you
walked through this for the lastcouple of years, there's new,
there's new layers, there'swe're.
(39:24):
We're in the sanctificationprocess and many of us have
walked through, you know, somemassive trauma, massive things
that would take most people out.
But you know, looking at youand I know your story and just
in working with you, you knowbeing that overcomer that now
you've, you've done this thing,you're, you're trailblazing.
(39:46):
You know writing this bookliterally like walking through
the trenches to get to the otherside.
Right Came out of the trenchesto get to the other side.
You've had your own deliverancein the coming delivery of this
book.
Yes, for sure.
So what would you say?
(40:10):
You know a woman or a man'slistening in right now who picks
up the book.
What ultimately like, whattruth and encouragement do you
pray like gets unlocked in them?
Speaker 2 (40:17):
I pray more than anything that they would know
that their identity, youridentity, my identity, we are
all made in God's image.
Our identity is not flawed,it's not confused, it's not
mixed up.
There's no identity confusion.
That is given to us because weare made in the image of Christ,
(40:39):
in the image of God, and if weknow Christ, we have the mind of
Christ.
The problem is is that Satanputs a mask, puts scales, over
our eyes.
So when we look at ourselves orwe think about who we are, we
have a distorted view.
It's like there's amisalignment and we all tend to
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default to well, I'm messed upbecause I messed up, or I'm bad
because I did bad, or I'm a hotmess or I'm whatever, or God
can't really love me after whatI've done.
I mean, when I think about whatI did, what I almost did, where
I was in the years following, Igave God plenty of excuses or
(41:25):
plenty of opportunities to walkaway and say that she's
unredeemable, yet he never didso.
I just want to say that to thewoman, to the man listening
there is nothing you can do thatis going to make God retract
his love for you.
He's going to give you freewill and he's going to hope and
(41:47):
pray and wait, wait.
Jesus gently waits and tenderlyknocks on our heart.
He waits for us to eitheraccept him as our Lord and
Savior or to come back to him,like the story of the prodigal
son I talk about.
I relate myself to the prodigalson in the book and you know,
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Jesus is tenderly waiting, god'stenderly waiting, for that
moment of restoration.
That is what Jesus came toearth for.
He left his holy, he left hiskingdom authority, kingdom
dominion.
He was in heaven with God, theFather, and he laid it all down
willingly to come to earththrough the birth of a woman
(42:31):
because he had to enter.
Satan's a legalist and he took,he usurped our legal authority
in the garden by tricking Evewhen she fell for it.
He was like gotcha.
Now I have dominion in theearth.
So if we don't know Jesus, yeah, satan has dominion in the
earth over us.
(42:52):
If we come to know Jesus, hecame to redeem us.
He came to earth as a man,walked as a man, lived as a man,
died as a man.
He rose again as a deity.
He rose by the power of theHoly Spirit.
That same Spirit lives in us ifwe have accepted Jesus.
(43:13):
He did all that willingly so hecould give us back the
opportunity to stand in theauthority.
We have to do it through Him.
We have to accept Him as ourLord and Savior.
When we do, we're washed in theblood we put on the
righteousness of Christ.
So when God looks at us, hedoesn't see our past failures
and mistakes, he sees therighteousness of Christ.
(43:36):
If we sin and we, you know,because no one's perfect we sin,
we fall short by operating inthe flesh.
We need to be quick to repentand say Lord, reestablish that
connection with relationship.
He didn't come for religion, hecame for relationship and every
one of us is offered that.
The Lord desires that we wouldtake advantage of that.
(44:01):
We don't have to.
He's not going to force us, butif we don't, we are guaranteed
that we will not overcome Satan.
We won't overcome death, thegrave, and our ultimate future
will be in hell.
Hell is not meant for anyone.
It was meant for the angelsthat fell and Satan, and it's
(44:21):
not God's heart that anyoneshould perish.
But he's going to because heloves us.
He's going to give us theopportunity to choose.
Jesus came so we would have achoice and that choice is
victory if we walk in him.
So I just want every woman,every man that's listening right
now, that picks up the book, Iwant them to understand.
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You have the opportunity forintimate relationship with Jesus
by accepting him as your Lordand Savior.
That gives you guaranteedvictory and the keys over death,
hell and the grave, and theauthority to take dominion over
Satan and this earth.
But it's not automatic.
(45:04):
You've got to rise up, you'vegot to understand it, one Number
one.
You've got to understand whoyou are and what you're entitled
to, what power and authorityhas been given to you under the
blood of Jesus and walking inauthority of Holy Spirit and the
name of Jesus.
But you've also you can't beenough to understand it.
(45:25):
You've got to apply it and thevictory is assured.
Speaker 1 (45:31):
Well, listeners, can you tell this Amy's a fiery one.
I mean, I love, like you and Iare both verbal processors, so I
love just what you speak, yoursound, all of it, and I cannot
wait to like hear thetestimonies from people who
actually get to read your book.
(45:51):
The Words on Paper right, amen.
So where can people find yourbook?
Speaker 2 (45:58):
Okay, so it is not out yet.
We're going to launch it on.
Like I said, this is playing onseptember 1st.
Yeah, um, which is thecelebratory launch date, the
actual um it.
It will be on a um, a print ondemand site.
I think it's called bookme oruh.
(46:21):
I'll link it in the show notes.
I'll be sure to look at me,I'll have to ask my publisher
what the thing is book, bookmeor something like that.
So I'll have that um, I'll haveit linked in the show notes.
And then the following week, onSeptember 8th, will be the hard
launch.
That will be where you can getit on Amazon and Kindle.
The hard launch, that will bewhere you can get it on Amazon
(46:47):
and Kindle and my goal is to getto get a lot of.
So the Kindle price will, forone week will be $1.99.
And then the goal of that is toget it in the hands of readers
in the digital version and the,the Kindle version, and for
reviews to be done, because wewant to post those reviews
within the first three to fivedays during that week of the 8th
(47:10):
.
We want to post those reviewsbecause we want to get this book
to number one status.
It'll be in the Christianhealing category.
We want to get it to the numberone status as quickly as
possible so as many women, andeven men if they need it, can
get access to it, because onceit's listed as a bestseller
it'll go up the listing and ifthey just do a search or
(47:34):
whatever, it'll be easily found.
We want to make it easilyaccessible to all the people
that need it.
So if you guys would, you know,download the Kindle version for
$1.99 and leave a reviewquickly, that would be amazing.
The print version it'll be inpaperback on Amazon.
(47:54):
It should be that same day, soyou can also buy it in paperback
version.
But I believe, from what I'munderstanding, I believe the
only reviews that count areKindle.
I don't know why it's done thatway, but we really want to get
those pushed up within three tofive days of launch so we can
get that to that number onestatus.
That would be amazing.
Speaker 1 (48:16):
That's good to know and we'll be sure to.
I'll link up the Amazon oncethat launches.
We'll put that in the shownotes as well.
Okay, thank you.
Thank you so much for sharingtoday.
I'm so proud of you.
This book is coming soon.
Yay, we're recording a weekexactly before this baby's
(48:37):
coming.
We're in the hospital right now.
We're packing our bag, the bagsare packed, we're putting our
feet up a little bit, resting,breathing, doing a little
pushing.
Like is it?
It's literally like in thephysical some of the things
you're experiencing, I'm sure so.
Would you be open to praying usout today?
Speaker 2 (49:00):
Yes, I would, and thank you so much for having me.
It's been such a joy and suchan honor.
It's such a blessing to haveyou on again.
Thank you All right, lord.
We thank you so much for thistime.
I thank you for Kristen's heartto serve, father.
We thank you for no glitches intechnology.
We thank you, lord, that thispodcast is going to go out to
(49:22):
the masses.
Father.
We thank you for this HopeUnlocked channel.
Father, we thank you for allthe listeners that tune in.
And, father, I just speak rightnow.
Blessings and favor overKristen and all that she touches
.
Father, I thank you so much forthe ones that need this book.
Father, prepare their hearts,prepare their mind and get this
(49:44):
book before them in easy,tangible ways.
Let it be a weapon of healingin the reader's hands.
Father.
Let it be something that givesyou all glory and all honor.
I thank you so much, holySpirit, for getting me across
the finish line.
It has been such a journey andI pray that this will heal,
(50:07):
it'll deliver, it'll eveneducate if it needs to.
And, father, I pray more thananything that where the intimacy
relationship has been severedor has been altered in whatever
way by sin and by the enemy andjust life in general,
distractions, whatever, father,I know that you will put it back
in proper alignment and I justspeak.
(50:27):
Blessings over that.
And, father, for the ones thatare going to get their hands on
the book that don't yet know you, father, man, let it tug on
their hearts, let the HolySpirit speak to them directly
and let it minister the gospelin mighty powerful ways.
Father, I pray that many willcome to know you, that they will
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be able to understand theirkingdom identity and be able to
stand in it.
And, father, I thank you somuch for this.
I give you glory and honor andI am so excited that you were
releasing this.
I thank you, father, that youhave taught me the word, the
Greek word, heneine, and itmeans here I am, send me.
(51:10):
It's not just a simple here Iam, send me, but it is an
excitable here I am, send me.
And, father, I thank you thatyou have taught me that word and
you've taught me to stand fullyin it, and you have been
faithful, faithful, faithful, toshow up and carry me through
the entire process.
So, just bless, bless this bookfor kingdom service.
We give you glory and honor inall things in Jesus mighty name
(51:34):
Amen.
Speaker 1 (51:35):
Amen, I've got like pinatas and firecrackers going
off over here for you.
Come on, I'm so excited.
Oh God, seriously, oh my gosh.
Well, and then also, what isthe best way for somebody to
contact you outside of the book,and I'll link that in the show
notes as well.
Speaker 2 (51:52):
The best way is my website and it is wwwamydialcom.
It's real simple.
It's A-M-Y-D-I-A-Lcom andpeople can see about the book
there.
They can subscribe to my emailseries.
There's also a free seven-daydevotional that they can go on
(52:14):
and grab.
That's really powerful and Ihighly suggest it.
It's about standing in ourkingdom authority and overcoming
, and then people can also bookme to speak there.
They can book a call with me onworking with my women's fitness
.
And now the Lord is expandingus into I don't think I finished
(52:36):
talking about this earlier, butthe Lord is expanding us into
further reach and we're going tobe doing individual coaching
with identity restoration.
Speaker 1 (52:48):
So beautiful.
Yeah, girl for it.
Girl, come on, thank you.
Well, I'm going to close withour anchoring verse over Hope.
Unlocked it's may the God ofhopefully, with all joy and
peace, and believing so that, bythe power of the Holy Spirit,
you may abound in hope.
And that's Romans 15, 13.
So thank you, amy, for being abrave voice who is setting so
(53:10):
many free, and I will be backwith another episode next week.
We'll see you later.
Speaker 2 (53:15):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (53:16):
Bye, bye.
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, break free from limitationsand thrive with confidence,
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If you're curious to learn moreabout coaching with me, head to
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(00:38):
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Get ready to dive in as weuncover empowering keys and
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So tune in and let's unlockhope together.
Welcome to the Hope Unlockedpodcast.
I'm Kristen Kurtz, your host.
I pray this episode is like aholy IV of hope for your soul.
Please help me.
Welcome Amy Dial to the show.
I'm so, so, so excited to haveher here today.
(01:01):
She was back with me on episode108, if you want to go, listen
to her amazing, amazing,powerful testimony.
But, Amy, before we get intowhy you're here again today,
could you just tell us a littlebit about yourself?
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Yes, thank you so much for having me back.
It's always an honor to comeand speak with you.
So I am Amy Dial, I am thefounder of Fit for the Kingdom
Outreach and I have a ministrythat utilizes faith-filled
fitness.
If you want to call it that, wesay it's movement with a
(01:38):
message.
I get to host women's bootcamps and different training
groups where I get to preach thegospel to them and it's all
Holy Spirit led, holy Spiritordained.
I sit with the Lord before myworkouts, I get the format, I
(01:59):
get the message, I even get themusic lineup.
So it is an amazing way to getthe word down in our bodies
while we're moving.
And now he is expanding Fit forthe Kingdom Outreach.
So it started as a fitnessministry, but now he is
expanding the reach.
I have just completed my firstbook, which is my testimony, and
(02:24):
that's what we're going to betalking about today.
I'm so excited.
It's Ring of Fire and it is astory of my personal testimony.
We'll talk about it more later,but from cover to cover it
shows the tactics and the plans,exposes the tactics and the
plans of the enemy and itreveals the answer has always
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been, is always and will alwaysbe Jesus Christ, and it just
highlights over and over thatour identity and value and worth
come from Him, not from ourmistakes or things that happened
to us.
What we walked through wherethe enemy would.
His whole goal is to try to usethat to hold us back from
(03:10):
intimate relationship with thefather, and so I'm very excited
that we it's been about a twoyear process.
It's been quite a struggle.
The Lord was walking me throughmy own identity crisis, my own
matters of healing anddeliverance for sure, and just
(03:31):
opening up my voice, continuingto make connections with people
like yourself that arekingdom-oriented, kingdom-minded
and have helped me walk thejourney to healing and hope and
restoration and encouraging meto release my voice.
So I thank you for that.
I love that we get to worktogether Personally through
(03:52):
individual coaching.
It has been an intricate partof seeing this.
You've been an intricate partof seeing this book come to
birth, so I thank you so muchfor that because I don't think
without you that I would be heretoday.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
So well, it's been such a joy to come alongside you
.
I, you know, I've been toutedkind of a spiritual midwife to
help, you know, bring things tothe world.
And you know my, my heart isthat women wouldn't self abort
these callings and the thingsthat he's called us to bring to
the world, because it's sobeyond us, isn't it?
Speaker 2 (04:26):
Yes, it is.
It is and it's beautiful thatyou have been such a spiritual
midwife to me in this, becausewhen the Lord calls us to
something especially as powerfulas what he's called me to, it's
not something that we can do onour own.
And I think about that verse inZechariah I think it's 4.6,
(04:50):
where he says not by might, notby power, but by my Spirit, says
the Lord, and we definitelyneed to be Holy Spirit-led and
guided and directed.
But also we need to beconnected with other
kingdom-minded builders andcoaches and things to lift the
(05:12):
kingdom up together, because wecan't carry that on our own
shoulders.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
Absolutely Like I think of you know we're not
called to be isolated.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
Oh, we're not.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
I mean, I've had visions before of like seeing
women try to birth their babieson their own and it's like that
doesn't go well.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
No, it doesn't go well.
And then what happens whenthere's complications?
And who's going to coach youalone when you want to give up?
Because I'm telling you thatthe enemy of our soul has given
me so many opportunities to quit, to give up, to just hang my
head in defeat.
But I knew what the Lord calledme to and I knew I had given
(05:50):
Him my yes when he startedtalking to me about these things
and also rising me up as akingdom speaker and making
connections and opening doorsfor me to go preach and speak in
different places.
He was working out with me theverse connections and opening
doors for me to go preach andspeak in different places.
He was working out with me theverse Revelations 12, 11.
(06:11):
It says, you know, basically,it says that we overcome by the
blood of the Lamb and the wordof our testimony, the power of
the blood of the Lamb and theword of our testimony.
But I would always stop at thefirst part of that verse because
when I gave the Lord my yes towriting my testimony and putting
(06:32):
it in a book, I was like, yes,lord, I'll do it.
But I didn't really want tothink about the last part of
that verse.
I really had to work throughthat.
The Lord really had to dealwith me about that, because
(07:08):
until I was able to say thatverse to completion and to mean
it, still do it, because thecost of not doing it is
something that I can't live with.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
Yeah, absolutely.
So you said this was like atwo-year process for you.
Do you remember, like themoment when he like basically I
don't know if he gave you avision of a book or what was it
Like?
I'm just kind of like, let'sbacktrack a little bit to the
beginning of um, how this cameto be.
Like what was that birthannouncement?
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You know we've got the birthcoming here, but it's yeah,
redates coming.
But that initial like what didthat look like for you?
Because I feel like somebodyout there is listening and it's
like, yeah, you know, maybe I'msupposed to do that too but, I
don't know.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
Well, it was not a.
I just woke up one day and thelight went on.
He began talking to me about itfor quite a while and it was
roughly about a year and a halfto two years ago when it got,
and I knew I was always in theback of my mind yes, I'll do
that and I'm excited to do that,but I just kind of like I'll
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get to it later or I need to beat a better spot before I start
and that's just a stall tacticby the enemy Sometimes.
In my case, it was fear thatI've never written a book before
.
I'm not qualified, I don't knowanything about it.
When the problem was, I wasstill trying to apply it in my
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own strength and not by theSpirit of the Lord, and he
really was working with me forquite a while and I just kept
getting more and more convictionuntil finally, one day I was
like, okay, well, just keptgetting more and more conviction
until finally, one day I waslike, okay, well, I don't want
to be the mom that says to herkids on her deathbed.
You know, the Lord alwayswanted me to write a book and I
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know there was someone out therethat needed to read it.
I hope you guys do better thanme when the Lord gives you an
assignment.
I didn't want to be that kind ofmom.
I wanted to leave a legacywhere they would know and I even
talk about this in theacknowledgments of my book
specifically aimed at mygranddaughter.
But I want the same for my kids.
I want them to know that whenthe Lord calls you to do hard
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things, you can do it.
And, as a matter of fact, youneed to do it, because there
will be no peace when the Spiritis urging you to do something.
There will be no peace and Idon't want to face Him when I go
before Him and Him say listen,there were tons of women who
needed your book, either toavoid an abortion or to get
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healing from their abortion.
Their relationship with me hasbeen destroyed by it because
they think they're unredeemable.
Why weren't you faithful to dowhat you did?
And I just couldn't.
I couldn't live like that and Ithought about myself in that
moment when I went through it,if I would have had someone to
talk to, because my experiencehappened in November 2005.
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And the premise of the story isthat I almost aborted my son.
He's now 19 and serving in theArmy.
But I was in the abortionclinic within minutes of going
through the procedure and theLord showed up and said remember
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who you are.
And I snapped to and got out ofthere.
But on the way out I saw thewomen who did not have the same
outcome.
I thought that the Lord showedme that to rub my nose in what I
almost did.
I didn't understand at that timethat he was showing me to
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reveal at a later date these arethe women you're called to
minister to, and so, because Iwill never forget their faces, I
couldn't sit on the assignmentat hand and finally, I just gave
my fear over to him.
I was like, okay, lord, you'regoing to have to do this and I
literally started.
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It's actually like I wasn't anauthor in the very beginning.
I was scribing what Holy Spiritit was.
I wonder if it's how they feltwhen they were writing the Bible
, because I was literally.
I was literally scribing in aGoogle Doc what Holy Spirit was
telling me and yeah, it was socool and I would sit back and
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look at it when I was done.
I'm like, wow, I can't believeit.
Yeah, holy Ghost Rider, I can'tbelieve we just did that.
And then it evolved over timeand we eventually got it into a
more palatable format andcleaned some things up, because
it was it was pretty rough, likeI was writing down exactly as
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fast as I could what he wassaying and um.
So we fixed the grammaticalerrors and made it look more
aesthetically pleasing.
And as it evolved he kepttaking it further and further
back, because I thought theoriginal premise of the story
was my testimony and I was likeI don't know how we're really
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going to make a book.
I mean, it's an incredibletestimony, but I don't know how
we're going to make an entirebook from it.
So I'm thinking like maybe abooklet or something, something
smaller.
But as I gave him my yes andwas faithful to sit down pretty
much every day not every singleday, but I would do it in chunks
where I would sit with it for awhile and we would go, and then
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he'd let me rest for a whileand I'd go back to it, it was so
patient and faithful.
And what he kept doing as itevolved is he was taking it
further and further and furtherback to the beginning.
So the original book actuallyopens with what happened in the
garden, with the original sin,and that was not part of my plan
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, so that was totally him.
But it's the framework that helaid to reveal, in my case, how
I got to where I was, because Iwas raised in the church but I
only had religion.
I didn't have a relationship,and he took me all the way back
to where it started, where itstarted in the garden, when
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Satan tempted Eve.
That was the original sin thatsevered, potentially severed for
everyone, pretty much foreveryone.
It severed our intimacy withGod, the Father, and so we are
perpetually in a place of tryingto get back there, but it's the
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blood of Jesus that brings usback there, and so I was able to
highlight that show the tacticsand show how, over and over and
over, satan does the same thingto us all, and he'll keep
throwing something until itsticks, but it's the same thing.
The original sin is a sin ofpride, and it starts with a
thought that he puts in yourmind and then you question God's
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sovereignty.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
Yeah, exactly, and it just makes me think of you know
that word, like that fiery wordthat he spoke over.
You remember who you are andwouldn't you say, like one of
the massive, like identitycrisis questions that the enemy
will throw at you is who do youthink you are?
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Absolutely, absolutely.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
Who do you think you are?
Absolutely, absolutely.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
Who do you think you are to even try to write a book?
Speaker 2 (14:30):
Absolutely.
Well, let me tell you what doyou want to say about that?
Well, what I want to say aboutthat is it's not up to us to
remember who we are.
It's up to us to understand andremember who God says we are,
because he has the finalauthority and the final word.
My thoughts and my ideas can bemessed with by Satan if I allow
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it.
If I'm not standing in myauthority and my identity as a
daughter of the king, but if Idon't yet know him, like for the
woman who's reading the bookthat's not yet a daughter of the
King, she doesn't have thatidentity yet.
Um, it was given to her atbirth, but, like I said, we all
have sinned and fallen short.
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So that identity was severedand blocked from our
understanding, manipulated,perverted, however you want to
say it.
And until she comes to the fullunderstanding of, no, I'm made
in the image of God and this iswho God says I am, and I've got
to accept Jesus Christ to beable to stand in that authority
and be washed in His blood, thenI can turn around and remind
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the enemy who God says I am.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
Yes, amen.
I mean, come on, I feel likethere's some gold in the books
that you in the to sharing withus.
Um, do you have the book infront of you that you could
share?
Just maybe a little sneak peek,yeah let me pull it up.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
It's on my computer.
We don't have the printed copyyet.
We are currently um off to thereplication.
Um, there's so much, let me see.
Um, there's so much, let me see.
Oh Lord, where do you want togo?
Um, well, I think, like for formy book.
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Um, like I said, the Lord tookus, took me back to the
beginning with what the gardenlooked like and how it was
supposed to be.
Um, one of the things to sharefrom that was when the Lord
banned Adam and Eve from thegarden and he told Adam you're
going to have to work, you'rebasically going to have to work
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by the sweat of your brow.
You're going to have to toiland work and, you know, do all
the things to keep um, to keeptaking dominion, cause we
originally were ordered to tomultiply and to take dominion.
We're still ordered to takedominion, but now it's not that
free and easy life that, um,that we were given in the garden
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automatically, so we've got toget back there through the blood
of Jesus.
And so when the Lord told Adamokay, you're going to have to
toil, you're going to have towork, that is a prophetic
picture for us.
For what?
Because that involved himtilling the ground, uprooting,
pulling out weeds, watering thesoil, tending the soil, turning
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it over daily.
To me that's a propheticpicture of our willingness to be
submissive to the Holy Spirit,to be in the Word, to continue.
It's not a one and donesituation.
We've got to continually.
There's not striving, but we'vegot to continually maintain
that relationship and throughthat relationship, and through
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that relationship and theleading of the Holy Spirit,
those things will come to pass.
Sometimes it's painful it is,sometimes it's not, as it's not
as difficult to to maybe tendthe ground as others.
We're kind of flowing in thespirit and things are.
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Things are seeming easier, soto speak, but there's a
continual movement, a continualbusting up the foundation.
When we're led by the HolySpirit it's much easier.
But sometimes it's a painfulprocess because there are some
deep-seated things, wounds inour heart, maybe false beliefs,
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ideologies, wrong, wrongtheology, which I was absolutely
subscribing to for a largeportion of my life.
Those things have to really bedealt with by the Holy Spirit
and it's not always.
It's not always a pain-freeprocess.
It's a beautiful process, butthere's, there's effort to it.
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And then he tells Eve you'regoing to basically have pain in
childbirth, and so to me that islike our process of deliverance
, because, think of it, you'retalking about Eve's delivery
process.
So when we're gettingdeliverance from the Holy Spirit
and he's reshaping our heart,reforming our thoughts, there's
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definite pain in the process,but it's evident to be birthed
into that new, healed creationthat he makes for us.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
Yes, that he makes for us, yes, and I, I just you
know, I have to say just, evenin the time that I've known you
and worked with you, like the,the growth and the.
I like to call it like a superbloom.
Um, it's a phenomenon, trulyit's.
It's an amazing phenomenon.
If you guys don't know what asuper bloom is, go check it out.
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But just the ways that he'sworked in you and you've really
grabbed on to the identity ofwho he's called you to be, to
boldly go out there and you knowspeak your truth that he has
given you to release your soundin the world in an area that, um
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, really there's a war.
there's a war on the womb andthere's a war on life, and
there's just so much confusionin this world that, um, I'm just
so proud of everything that hehas.
Um, how do you just step intoand you just continually give
your yes, Thank you.
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So what would you say to you?
Know, the woman who's listeningin today that she's just had a
hesitant?
Yes, she knows that she's gotsomething that she's called to
or build, but she's justhesitating.
She's like I don't really know,Like I'm not, I'm not, I'm not
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the right one, I don't know howto do this.
Like, what would you say to her?
Speaker 2 (21:24):
Well, first of all, I would say to her I completely
understand, and so does so doesGod, but that does not get you
off the hook, so to speak, withwhat he's called you to do,
because every single one of usand I even talk about this in
the book every single one of us,when we are formed in our
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mother's womb as infants or ascoming to be creations, the Lord
deposits everything that weneed to fulfill what he's going
to call us to do.
And I used to think of it likethis.
I used to think, oh, while hewas forming me, he was taking a
little of this and a little ofthis and a little of this,
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putting it together, and one dayhe would call me to walk in all
that I've been created for.
But I now come to understand itwe're made in His image, right,
and when we are made, every oneof us is made in His image,
whether we know Him as our Lordand Savior or we don't.
We are all made with the sameopportunity to come back to
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relationship that was lost inthe garden.
Everybody has the sameopportunity, regardless of how
they came to be or thecircumstances they're born into,
or whatever.
The Lord is not slack concerningHis promises, and he promises
that Jesus is the way, the truthand the life, and he's not a
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respecter of persons.
So it's not well if you're borninto the right social class or
in the right location.
No, he went to the cross forevery single one of us, because
all of us have sinned and fallenshort of the glory, and so he
died for every single one of us,because all of us had sinned
and fallen short of the glory,and so he died for every single
one of us.
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Now, not all of us will receivehim, and he gives us free will
to do that, but whenever hecreates us and he makes us in
his image, each one of us hemakes unique and he puts
different characteristics ofhimself in us.
It's not something separate ofhimself, it is these particular
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characteristics of God.
Go into Kristen and theseparticular characteristics of
Amy.
Go into Amy, and at the righttime, our character, our
development and our timing willall come together and Holy
Spirit will say OK, now this isyour assignment, I want you to
go, do it, and he won't let usjust dismiss it.
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We'll continue to feel that tug.
We have a choice, we have freewill and we have a choice to
ignore it.
But we will be very unsettledand restless and will always be
coming back to us until we sayyes.
And if we choose not to, wewill always regret it because we
know deep down in our heartthat's what we were called to do
.
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And so I would say to her youdon't have to rely on yourself,
you just have to give yourselfover to those parts of God,
god's character, that wereplaced in you, because at the
right time, in the right seasonand when you are ready, holy
Spirit will open those doors andsay okay, go, this is what I
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want you to do.
But you've got to understandyou're not going in your own
strength.
As long as you submit to Himand His leadership, he opens the
doors and he walks throughfirst and he makes the
connections and you follow himby faith.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
Yes, so good, amy.
Oh my gosh, you just saidsomebody free.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
Come on, and I would add this to like I said before,
one day we are all going to haveto stand before him and I don't
think any of us want it on ourconscience that when we stand
before him, he to look at us andsay I had these people that
needed this and you were the onewho carried the anointing in
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the earth, why didn't you?
We're not going to have anywords for that.
There's going to be no words.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
Yeah, absolutely.
And I like to say to people allthe time too, is like there are
people literally waiting forwhat it is that you're called to
release.
For sure, there are peoplewaiting to read your book.
Amen, it's already like, it'salready in your book of life.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
Amen, and I know I needed it at the time that I was
walking through it and I didn'thave it.
So had had that book been beenthere, I don't think I would.
I know I wouldn't have walkedthrough because when I came out
of that abortion clinic with myson Well, my son's still in my
womb and all that I wasn't ableto come out victorious and
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excited.
And I still had years and yearsand years it was almost 17
years before I could even speakabout it Because in all those
years the enemy had me held inshame and condemnation and kept
taking me further and furtherand further down through my
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wrong decisions, because I wasdriven by fear, guilt and shame
and so because I didn't havethat when I needed it.
I don't want any woman to be inthat same situation.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
Yeah, well, and when you said, like when I had a
vision as you were talking, whenyou said, like when I had a
vision as you were talking, whenyou said that we know when we
stand before him, I was actuallyseeing him as we're stepping
out here and now, like thisworld releasing what it is that
he's calling us to release, Isaw him standing before us Wow,
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with us standing behind us.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
Yes, amen.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
Sometimes standing on his shoulders, for sure.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
And under his and under his adjoining, under his
wings, you know, because it'she's all encompassing and that's
the that's the whole crux ofthe book.
It's ring of fire he's alwaysbeen.
It's based on Zechariah 2.5.
It actually says Wall of Firein the Bible.
But when the Lord showed me, hewas taking me back in the Spirit
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to my time in the abortionclinic, because I kept asking
Him how did I get so close?
So close Because after thatabortion, that day I was going
to go home and commit suicide byhanging and I was married, had
three children at home, I hadhad an affair, extramarital
affair, and that's how I gotpregnant with my son.
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And so I was within moments ofdoing the unthinkable and I had
already made my decision.
The enemy already had had me onthe ropes.
So I had already made mydecision, okay, already had had
me on the ropes so long.
I'd already made my decisionOkay, when I go home I'm going
to end my life.
And I chose the most painfulpossible way because I thought
that I had to exude every ounceof suffering because of what I
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was about to do, was about to do, and I just I'm grateful that
the Lord, he, covered me.
He called me forth and I wasable to remember who I was and
come back to life, because I wascompletely taken over by the
enemy at that point completely.
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I'd just about given up hope.
But there is a reflex in thespirit Even whenever you've
completely let go of what youthink is any fragment of
yourself, hope still remains.
And I'm grateful for that,because there was just enough
hope in my spirit where I waslike because no one would look
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at me and I was weeping, weeping, weeping and no one would talk
to me.
They wouldn't look at me.
They were looking at the fatherof my child, talking to him,
and I remember thinking I justwish somebody would see me.
And in that instant Jesus showedup.
He saw me.
He saw me all the time.
He saw me walk in, he saw me doall the things, and that's when
I was asking him.
I was like Lord, how were we soclose?
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And you got us out.
And he showed me in the spiritthe very real demons that I was
seeing in there.
I didn't see them that day, butsince he's taken me back in the
spirit, I have seen them inopen visions and I would see
them dropping on to peoplewalking around, but they never
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got near me and I was asking himhow did I get so lucky?
How did I get so lucky?
And he expanded my vision and Isaw a ring of fire around me
and he said I was always thereprotecting you.
Now, he did not draw me intothe abortion clinic, he allowed
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me free will and my choiceslanded me there, but even in
there he was protecting me andguarding me.
And I think about thatscripture where David says in
Psalms.
David says even if I go down toSheol to hell, you're there.
And he was.
I was literally in hell thatday and he was there protecting
me.
So I'm so grateful for that.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
I mean in this message of of life, it's, it's
one of your main messages thatthere'd be that war on your life
and your choice I mean theenemy is such a punk seriously.
He definitely is.
You're a punk, seriously.
I mean he definitely is.
You're such a punk, seriously.
I mean I'm telling you.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
Well, I wanted to make sure that everybody knows
this podcast episode is going tobe releasing on your release
day, which happens to be whatday Happens to be Labor Day and
I was so surprised when HolySpirit told me because I was
trying to decide okay, what dayare we launching, what are we
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going to do?
I knew I was getting close.
You know you can feel thosebirthing pains and I knew I was
getting close, braxton Hicks Ifelt like I was ready to pop and
I was starting to kind of panicand try to do things on my own,
which I tend to do sometimes,in my own, which I tend to do
sometimes, and the Holy Spirithas to tap me on the shoulder
gently and be like hello,remember, I'm your guide, I'm
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your counselor.
Ask me.
And he did that.
And I asked him.
I said, okay, holy Spirit, whatday are you going to do it?
And instantly I heard it dropLabor Day.
I panicked when I heard thatbecause that was just a little
over a month away at the time.
I heard it and I was like no,like this Labor Day.
And he said, yeah, the time isright, labor Day.
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And then I rejoiced because Ithought about it.
I was like that is so like Godto take what the enemy means for
evil, the weapons ofdestruction, and turn around and
put it back in his face becausethe enemy was trying to stop
the birth of my son and thislabor of love that the Lord has
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called me to.
And now the Lord's turningaround and being like guess what
, satan, we're launching onLabor Day.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
Exactly.
I love that you said like laborof love, because I was actually
my next question that I wantedto ask you was like what was,
what would you say was thebiggest labor of love in writing
this book?
And then how did?
Speaker 2 (32:44):
God show up in that process.
Oh, wow, the biggest labor oflove was when I was having to
recount my actual testimony invivid, vivid detail, because he
told me don't spare any details.
The truth needs to be told.
A large part of this purpose ofthis book is to expose.
It's all about exposing thetactics of the enemy and
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highlighting.
We're not just looking at thetactics of the enemy and giving
him a proverbial high five.
We are exposing the tactics ofthe enemy, but we're
highlighting the overcomer isJesus Christ, and this is the
purpose that he came to earthfor.
This is why he came to restorethings.
This is what he wants from us.
This is what he expects andhe's longing for.
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This is his heart on the matter.
And so we glance at the enemy,but we gaze upon Jesus.
And I just want to be reallyclear about that because I don't
want anybody to get the ideathat we're highlighting Satan.
We're simply exposing histactics, how he aimed them at me
directly and how it reallyapplies to most.
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He does the same thing withmost of creation.
You can take your story andinsert it in.
The details will be different,but the playbook is pretty much
the same.
He doesn't have any new things.
He comes to kill, steal anddestroy.
That's his three things.
And so I would say my biggestlabor of love over it was when
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the Lord then that was thelongest part of the book.
The longest part of thestruggle was getting through my
testimony.
I've been able to tell mytestimony over and over and over
.
I can speak publicly about itin any venue.
I'm actually a leader for 40Days for Life, which is 40 days
of praying and fasting to seeinto an abortion.
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I'm a community leader in myarea, volunteer leader, and I'm
able to proclaim my testimonyorally.
But there was something, and Iwasn't prepared for this.
There was just something aboutseeing it in black and white
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print and I did not know thatthat would be such a struggle.
And I really believe it'sbecause when I tell my story it
may or may not be forgotten,some of the details may or may
not be remembered, but when youwrite it down in black and white
print it is there for alleternity.
And it really took anotherlevel of healing and really
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stepping out of the boat, likewe were talking about earlier,
by faith to say, lord, okay,you're going to have to get me
through this and I'm seeing itstare back at me, knowing that
everyone who knows me, loves me,has supported me, and most
especially my son that wasinvolved in the situation.
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He's heard me talk about mystory over and over and over and
, before I even started speakingabout it publicly, I sat him
down and told him and I askedfor his forgiveness, which he
graciously gave me.
But just knowing that it'sgoing to be there for all
eternity, that was a next levelof oh God.
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I wasn't ready for this.
I could not have done itwithout the Holy Spirit, and it
took me such a long time.
I would start.
There would be new wounds andnew areas that I didn't even
know existed.
So it was actually a healingprocess for me.
I'm grateful for it because itbrought things to the surface
that were hidden in the recessesof my heart that I thought, hey
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, we're all good, I'm able tospeak about it without getting
emotional.
Now I can get, I can speakabout it without crying and
breaking down, and that was sucha journey for me over the
course of that 17 years.
So I thought, well, I'mperfectly healed, I'm perfectly
good.
Years.
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So I thought, well, I'mperfectly healed, I'm perfectly
good, but there's always anotherlayer to be dealt with and it
was a difficult process.
I would have to stop A lot oftimes.
I would run to my prayer closetand just go to war in spirit.
In the prayer I would takecommunion, I would listen to
worship songs.
Sometimes I would take a walkwith the Lord and then we'd be
okay, we'd go back and we'd be alittle bit more.
And once it got out there, andafter I saw it and I stared at
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it, I was like, okay, thatpainful part that I didn't even
know was there, the Band-Aid'sbeen ripped off, there had been
some oozing and some bleedingaround it, but the Lord was
always so faithful to tend to mywounds and love on me and just
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embrace me and I would hear Himsay I'm proud of you, you know.
And so that got me.
It was really like threechapters right in the middle of
the book that it was a moment bymoment situation, like I don't
know if I can do this, and ofcourse the enemy was going all
in with all the lies, all thetactics, all the attacks, and
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the Lord would say put on yourarmor.
And I would run to my prayercloset and put it on and we
would get you know, and so Ithink that was probably the
biggest labor of love.
But I'm so, so, so, so gladthat we did it, because the book
would not be complete withoutit, and I know that there are
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women who need this book, andnot just women.
The church needs this bookbecause we tend to not talk
about the difficult things inthe body of Christ, and that has
to change.
This is what's considered bydefault, is considered a hidden
sin or the secret sin, and itcan't.
It can't be that way.
(38:43):
That's how the enemy thrives,is in the darkness and we've got
to turn the light on.
We've got to have more peoplein the body of Christ to stand
up and say, hey, if you've, ifyou've dealt with this, it's
okay.
Jesus can heal you and redeemyou and restore you and
reconnect you.
Let me help you through that.
Speaker 1 (39:03):
Yes, yes, girl, oh my gosh.
I just want to say, likewhoever's listening right now,
absolutely Like this book isgoing to shift and even as you
walked through this for the lastcouple of years, there's new,
there's new layers, there'swe're.
(39:24):
We're in the sanctificationprocess and many of us have
walked through, you know, somemassive trauma, massive things
that would take most people out.
But you know, looking at youand I know your story and just
in working with you, you knowbeing that overcomer that now
you've, you've done this thing,you're, you're trailblazing.
(39:46):
You know writing this bookliterally like walking through
the trenches to get to the otherside.
Right Came out of the trenchesto get to the other side.
You've had your own deliverancein the coming delivery of this
book.
Yes, for sure.
So what would you say?
(40:10):
You know a woman or a man'slistening in right now who picks
up the book.
What ultimately like, whattruth and encouragement do you
pray like gets unlocked in them?
Speaker 2 (40:17):
I pray more than anything that they would know
that their identity, youridentity, my identity, we are
all made in God's image.
Our identity is not flawed,it's not confused, it's not
mixed up.
There's no identity confusion.
That is given to us because weare made in the image of Christ,
(40:39):
in the image of God, and if weknow Christ, we have the mind of
Christ.
The problem is is that Satanputs a mask, puts scales, over
our eyes.
So when we look at ourselves orwe think about who we are, we
have a distorted view.
It's like there's amisalignment and we all tend to
(41:01):
default to well, I'm messed upbecause I messed up, or I'm bad
because I did bad, or I'm a hotmess or I'm whatever, or God
can't really love me after whatI've done.
I mean, when I think about whatI did, what I almost did, where
I was in the years following, Igave God plenty of excuses or
(41:25):
plenty of opportunities to walkaway and say that she's
unredeemable, yet he never didso.
I just want to say that to thewoman, to the man listening
there is nothing you can do thatis going to make God retract
his love for you.
He's going to give you freewill and he's going to hope and
(41:47):
pray and wait, wait.
Jesus gently waits and tenderlyknocks on our heart.
He waits for us to eitheraccept him as our Lord and
Savior or to come back to him,like the story of the prodigal
son I talk about.
I relate myself to the prodigalson in the book and you know,
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Jesus is tenderly waiting, god'stenderly waiting, for that
moment of restoration.
That is what Jesus came toearth for.
He left his holy, he left hiskingdom authority, kingdom
dominion.
He was in heaven with God, theFather, and he laid it all down
willingly to come to earththrough the birth of a woman
(42:31):
because he had to enter.
Satan's a legalist and he took,he usurped our legal authority
in the garden by tricking Evewhen she fell for it.
He was like gotcha.
Now I have dominion in theearth.
So if we don't know Jesus, yeah, satan has dominion in the
earth over us.
(42:52):
If we come to know Jesus, hecame to redeem us.
He came to earth as a man,walked as a man, lived as a man,
died as a man.
He rose again as a deity.
He rose by the power of theHoly Spirit.
That same Spirit lives in us ifwe have accepted Jesus.
(43:13):
He did all that willingly so hecould give us back the
opportunity to stand in theauthority.
We have to do it through Him.
We have to accept Him as ourLord and Savior.
When we do, we're washed in theblood we put on the
righteousness of Christ.
So when God looks at us, hedoesn't see our past failures
and mistakes, he sees therighteousness of Christ.
(43:36):
If we sin and we, you know,because no one's perfect we sin,
we fall short by operating inthe flesh.
We need to be quick to repentand say Lord, reestablish that
connection with relationship.
He didn't come for religion, hecame for relationship and every
one of us is offered that.
The Lord desires that we wouldtake advantage of that.
(44:01):
We don't have to.
He's not going to force us, butif we don't, we are guaranteed
that we will not overcome Satan.
We won't overcome death, thegrave, and our ultimate future
will be in hell.
Hell is not meant for anyone.
It was meant for the angelsthat fell and Satan, and it's
(44:21):
not God's heart that anyoneshould perish.
But he's going to because heloves us.
He's going to give us theopportunity to choose.
Jesus came so we would have achoice and that choice is
victory if we walk in him.
So I just want every woman,every man that's listening right
now, that picks up the book, Iwant them to understand.
(44:43):
You have the opportunity forintimate relationship with Jesus
by accepting him as your Lordand Savior.
That gives you guaranteedvictory and the keys over death,
hell and the grave, and theauthority to take dominion over
Satan and this earth.
But it's not automatic.
(45:04):
You've got to rise up, you'vegot to understand it, one Number
one.
You've got to understand whoyou are and what you're entitled
to, what power and authorityhas been given to you under the
blood of Jesus and walking inauthority of Holy Spirit and the
name of Jesus.
But you've also you can't beenough to understand it.
(45:25):
You've got to apply it and thevictory is assured.
Speaker 1 (45:31):
Well, listeners, can you tell this Amy's a fiery one.
I mean, I love, like you and Iare both verbal processors, so I
love just what you speak, yoursound, all of it, and I cannot
wait to like hear thetestimonies from people who
actually get to read your book.
(45:51):
The Words on Paper right, amen.
So where can people find yourbook?
Speaker 2 (45:58):
Okay, so it is not out yet.
We're going to launch it on.
Like I said, this is playing onseptember 1st.
Yeah, um, which is thecelebratory launch date, the
actual um it.
It will be on a um, a print ondemand site.
I think it's called bookme oruh.
(46:21):
I'll link it in the show notes.
I'll be sure to look at me,I'll have to ask my publisher
what the thing is book, bookmeor something like that.
So I'll have that um, I'll haveit linked in the show notes.
And then the following week, onSeptember 8th, will be the hard
launch.
That will be where you can getit on Amazon and Kindle.
The hard launch, that will bewhere you can get it on Amazon
(46:47):
and Kindle and my goal is to getto get a lot of.
So the Kindle price will, forone week will be $1.99.
And then the goal of that is toget it in the hands of readers
in the digital version and the,the Kindle version, and for
reviews to be done, because wewant to post those reviews
within the first three to fivedays during that week of the 8th
(47:10):
.
We want to post those reviewsbecause we want to get this book
to number one status.
It'll be in the Christianhealing category.
We want to get it to the numberone status as quickly as
possible so as many women, andeven men if they need it, can
get access to it, because onceit's listed as a bestseller
it'll go up the listing and ifthey just do a search or
(47:34):
whatever, it'll be easily found.
We want to make it easilyaccessible to all the people
that need it.
So if you guys would, you know,download the Kindle version for
$1.99 and leave a reviewquickly, that would be amazing.
The print version it'll be inpaperback on Amazon.
(47:54):
It should be that same day, soyou can also buy it in paperback
version.
But I believe, from what I'munderstanding, I believe the
only reviews that count areKindle.
I don't know why it's done thatway, but we really want to get
those pushed up within three tofive days of launch so we can
get that to that number onestatus.
That would be amazing.
Speaker 1 (48:16):
That's good to know and we'll be sure to.
I'll link up the Amazon oncethat launches.
We'll put that in the shownotes as well.
Okay, thank you.
Thank you so much for sharingtoday.
I'm so proud of you.
This book is coming soon.
Yay, we're recording a weekexactly before this baby's
(48:37):
coming.
We're in the hospital right now.
We're packing our bag, the bagsare packed, we're putting our
feet up a little bit, resting,breathing, doing a little
pushing.
Like is it?
It's literally like in thephysical some of the things
you're experiencing, I'm sure so.
Would you be open to praying usout today?
Speaker 2 (49:00):
Yes, I would, and thank you so much for having me.
It's been such a joy and suchan honor.
It's such a blessing to haveyou on again.
Thank you All right, lord.
We thank you so much for thistime.
I thank you for Kristen's heartto serve, father.
We thank you for no glitches intechnology.
We thank you, lord, that thispodcast is going to go out to
(49:22):
the masses.
Father.
We thank you for this HopeUnlocked channel.
Father, we thank you for allthe listeners that tune in.
And, father, I just speak rightnow.
Blessings and favor overKristen and all that she touches
.
Father, I thank you so much forthe ones that need this book.
Father, prepare their hearts,prepare their mind and get this
(49:44):
book before them in easy,tangible ways.
Let it be a weapon of healingin the reader's hands.
Father.
Let it be something that givesyou all glory and all honor.
I thank you so much, holySpirit, for getting me across
the finish line.
It has been such a journey andI pray that this will heal,
(50:07):
it'll deliver, it'll eveneducate if it needs to.
And, father, I pray more thananything that where the intimacy
relationship has been severedor has been altered in whatever
way by sin and by the enemy andjust life in general,
distractions, whatever, father,I know that you will put it back
in proper alignment and I justspeak.
(50:27):
Blessings over that.
And, father, for the ones thatare going to get their hands on
the book that don't yet know you, father, man, let it tug on
their hearts, let the HolySpirit speak to them directly
and let it minister the gospelin mighty powerful ways.
Father, I pray that many willcome to know you, that they will
(50:49):
be able to understand theirkingdom identity and be able to
stand in it.
And, father, I thank you somuch for this.
I give you glory and honor andI am so excited that you were
releasing this.
I thank you, father, that youhave taught me the word, the
Greek word, heneine, and itmeans here I am, send me.
(51:10):
It's not just a simple here Iam, send me, but it is an
excitable here I am, send me.
And, father, I thank you thatyou have taught me that word and
you've taught me to stand fullyin it, and you have been
faithful, faithful, faithful, toshow up and carry me through
the entire process.
So, just bless, bless this bookfor kingdom service.
We give you glory and honor inall things in Jesus mighty name
(51:34):
Amen.
Speaker 1 (51:35):
Amen, I've got like pinatas and firecrackers going
off over here for you.
Come on, I'm so excited.
Oh God, seriously, oh my gosh.
Well, and then also, what isthe best way for somebody to
contact you outside of the book,and I'll link that in the show
notes as well.
Speaker 2 (51:52):
The best way is my website and it is wwwamydialcom.
It's real simple.
It's A-M-Y-D-I-A-Lcom andpeople can see about the book
there.
They can subscribe to my emailseries.
There's also a free seven-daydevotional that they can go on
(52:14):
and grab.
That's really powerful and Ihighly suggest it.
It's about standing in ourkingdom authority and overcoming
, and then people can also bookme to speak there.
They can book a call with me onworking with my women's fitness
.
And now the Lord is expandingus into I don't think I finished
(52:36):
talking about this earlier, butthe Lord is expanding us into
further reach and we're going tobe doing individual coaching
with identity restoration.
Speaker 1 (52:48):
So beautiful.
Yeah, girl for it.
Girl, come on, thank you.
Well, I'm going to close withour anchoring verse over Hope.
Unlocked it's may the God ofhopefully, with all joy and
peace, and believing so that, bythe power of the Holy Spirit,
you may abound in hope.
And that's Romans 15, 13.
So thank you, amy, for being abrave voice who is setting so
(53:10):
many free, and I will be backwith another episode next week.
We'll see you later.
Speaker 2 (53:15):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (53:16):
Bye, bye.
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