July 31, 2025 • 57 mins
In this powerful episode of Hope Unlocked, host Kristin Kurtz welcomes back Deb Yoerg—Kingdom coach, author, and founder of Reign in Royalty. Deb shares her testimony of healing, identity, and freedom through Christ, unveiling her new workbook Reign In Royalty: Kingdom Coaching Program for Women and 100-day I Am devotional journal Reign in Royalty: Journal Companion. Together, they dive deep into breaking shame, confronting lies, embracing kingdom identity, and stepping into your calling with courage. Tune in for a Spirit-led conversation full of truth, tools, and hope to unlock your destiny.
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Speaker 1 (00:16):
Welcome to the Hope Unlocked podcast.
I'm your host, Kristen Kurtz,and I'm also the founder of New
Wings Coaching.
I help and empower wildheartedand adventurous women of faith
feeling caged and stuck, unlocktheir true purpose and potential
, break free from limitationsand thrive with confidence,
courage and hope.
If you're curious to learn moreabout coaching with me, head to
newwingscoachingnet and be sureto explore the show notes for
(00:38):
ways to connect with me further.
Get ready to dive in as weuncover empowering keys and
insights in this episode.
So tune in and let's unlockhope together.
Welcome to the Hope Unlockedpodcast.
I'm Kristen Kurtz, your host.
I pray this episode is like aholy IV of hope for your soul.
Please help me.
Welcome Deb Yorg to the show.
I am so excited to have herback on today.
(01:00):
She is just a sweet longtimefriend and just powerful prayer
warrior, fellow coach.
I'll have her tell more aboutherself, but this is her second
time back on, so it's always funto have people back on the show
and if you want to go back andlisten to her, she's episode 15.
(01:23):
So if you guys have beenlistening for a while, you know
that that was a while ago andthat was actually back in June
of 2023, which was about a monthafter this podcast was released
.
So, Deb, would you be just opento sharing a little bit more
about yourself besides what Ishared?
Speaker 2 (01:40):
Oh, absolutely.
Thank you so much, my friend.
I so appreciate you and excitedto be on here and I can't
believe it was 23.
We've talked about that beforeand coaching and so, yes, so
(02:07):
just unlocking.
So I love that because I feellike you and I are kindred
hearts where the Lord has putyou know, the same, just the
passion to help others getunlocked and yeah, so he's
placed that within me as welland just being able to share
with others.
I'm just someone who loves tocelebrate others as well as you.
(02:32):
Yeah, and just you know I'm justhelping them through their
obstacles or past traumas,wounds.
You know that was something thelord had said to me um years
ago.
You know you can't outrun yourpast and it's just you know he
put that on my heart, that it's.
(02:53):
You have to face it and dealwith those things with the lord,
yeah, you know, and so, um,yeah, so that's been my heart.
It's it's been since about 2012that I really, you know, dug
into this and and he's placedthis on my heart to share with
(03:14):
others.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
Yes, I love what you said.
You can't, you said you can'toutrun your past, right?
No, yes, I said that, but youcan't, you can't, you can't
outrun your past, that's.
It's almost like if I couldhave a tape recorder I'd rewind
a little bit, cause I couldn'tsay that for some reason you
can't outrun your past.
So had you, I mean, in yourlife, had you spent some time
(03:39):
trying to outrun your pastpersonally?
Well, I, yeah.
Or did you just recognize thatin others as well?
Speaker 2 (03:47):
I recognize that in in in others, but it's, it's
like I, I knew that the Lord wasspeaking to my heart.
So in 2007, I believe it waswhere, you know, I, I, I was
ready to just deal with some ofthe things that I felt like, wow
, these things are, you know,and I really didn't know at the
time, but I felt like they wereblocking me, I couldn't move.
(04:09):
And he's like, you know, weneed to unwrap these things, we
need to, you know.
So I worked with a counselorand you know that that helped me
back then to to face a fewthings that I felt, like you
know, and there are times and Ihad done some work before, but
it's like you know, the Lordwill heal and then he'll bring
(04:32):
you to another place and feellike, you know, I always say
it's like an onion, where hekind of peels back a layer and
it's like I thought we've workedon this.
I know, right, and yeah, andit's like I thought we've worked
on on this, I know right andyeah, and it's just like, and
you know, we can't outrun thesethings, we can't, you know, take
(04:54):
that big girl gulp is what I'dsay and kind of push down the
emotions because, um, they go.
Some, you know they hurt youphysically as well.
They, you know they cause thesephysical reactions in our
bodies and spiritually it hurtsus and emotionally and it's I
felt like the Lord was saying no, it's time, it's time to deal
(05:18):
with these, with these hurts.
And that was back then, youknow.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
Yeah, 2007.
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
That's amazing, yes.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
So he was showing me then.
So I went through my own hearthealing and you know, a ministry
was birthed back then ofbreaking chains and you know
conferences and events andgatherings that he placed on my
(05:50):
heart.
But it was, it was in, I thinkit was when we were, when you
and I were talking in 23.
He did give me 12 kingdom keys,yes, yes, and so it's kingdom
coaching and working with otherswho that you know, for the Lord
(06:11):
to, just like you know, unlockour hearts.
Song of songs, five, four andthe passion, says my beloved
reached into into me to unlockmy heart.
And and that's where it startedto really take form, when I,
you know, he, holy Spirit, hadhelped me to write a workbook
(06:34):
from the program, the coachingprogram that he was placing upon
my heart.
And it's like he's reachinginto our hearts to unlock.
And it's like he's reachinginto our hearts to unlock.
It's twofold Unlock the heartfrom the pain, the traumas and
(06:58):
the things that we need that welock with bolts.
And it's unlocking our heartsso that he can heal.
Then unlocking our hearts tothe potential, you know, of who
we are, our destinies to stepinto, from a, a healed heart or,
you know, heart, that is, um,healing.
Yeah, so that's where thecoaching program was really uh,
(07:22):
stirred up in me and birth andnow published in an Instagram
workbook.
Yes, when did it publish?
So that was just a few monthsago.
So just a few months ago, inthe beginning of the year.
That was published and then theLord dropped in my heart.
(07:42):
I mean, it was so quickly wherehe just said, okay, holy Spirit
said, let's create 100, I amstatements, I know and so that
was birthed really quickly,where now it's published as well
.
It's a companion journal to theworkbook, although it's, you
(08:04):
know, it's separate, as you know, it doesn't need to be a
companion to it, but it's adevotion, it's a journal and a
place where the declaration is Iam, and then I have the
declaration and then a place tojournal and write and, of course
, the scripture location too isthere and so, um, you know, like
(08:24):
I am a new creation in christ,my, my past does not define me.
Yes, you know, and and I believethat, as we did, because it's a
renewing of our mindset, youknow, walking in kingdom,
kingdom mindset, kingdomidentity, kingdom confidence, is
that authority yes that we haveand the daughters to the king.
(08:46):
You know, we, we walk, and thisis what he showed me.
You know, um, we're royalty inthe kingdom of god.
That's the name of the programis reign in royalty, yeah, and
you know, we're crowned by him,but we don't walk in that
victory because we feel defeatedor we walk around the mountain
over and over and over again,and that's where the Lord is
(09:08):
saying, no, we need to addressthe heart and he needs to bring
a healing to it.
And, yeah, so I love to workwith others to help them unpack
the heart healing that God wantsto do unpack the heart healing
that God wants to do.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
Yeah Well, I just, I mean, I absolutely love your
heart but, like you said, we, wedefinitely are kindred spirits
in so many different ways.
I would just love to hear alittle bit about the process
just to even bring this into theworld.
You know, I can't imagine.
It sounds like the I amdevotional slash journal came
(09:48):
really quickly, but the, theworkbook how how did that
process go for you?
Speaker 2 (09:54):
That's interesting.
Well, you know that that's over, that's over.
You know several years, severalyears.
So it started in seven, 2007,where I just began my own
journey, like I had mentioned,and seeking counsel and help and
in just the way that I wasprocessing.
(10:15):
I was a believer at the timebut I was still walking in.
You know, guilt or shame andyou know, from mistakes and sin
that I have, that I've made.
And so you know, just lookingat all of that and you know, and
step in, you know, a marriagethat ended.
(10:36):
You know I have two sons fromthat relationship and just
looking back and healing fromall of that, you know there's,
there's sin on my part as well.
So having to look at that andgo, okay, you know that needs to
.
You know I'm going through aneating disorder because of the
way that I handled my, my, mypain back back in that in those
(10:59):
days that was in the 90s.
You know I had an eatingdisorder because I didn't deal
with things the way that Ididn't know the Lord.
So I took control of what Icould control, which is, you
know, and so an eating disorderwas formed 2007,.
(11:36):
2007 is really when I I beganto what was.
It was 2000, where I reallybegan to.
You know, I began to eat and Iof sort through, unpack some of
that and renew my mindset andunderstanding.
Well, if I'm a believer, if I'ma daughter to the king, you
know, working on my heart, Iknew then I needed to do that,
(12:00):
to do that, but that was abeautiful.
When I knew that I needed myown counseling, that opened up
so much for me.
The Lord really began toaddress the issues of my heart
and he began to define me.
I didn't know, you know who Iwas.
(12:20):
I was someone who was trying tofit the molds that everyone
wanted me to fit into, and youknow whether that was
compromising or or, you know,trying to fit in, trying to be a
people.
I was, I was a people pleaser,you know.
And and so you know to answeryour question it was just like
(12:41):
wow, it was a process of my ownjourney of healing.
And and then, um, you know, whenhe gave me the kingdom keys in
2019, he really began to show meyou're going to take what
you've learned, and I began to,um, you know, just take, take my
(13:03):
notes.
And before I knew it, I had aworkbook.
You know with the Lord has.
You know he whispered all ofthat into my heart.
You know how to put thattogether and you know it took me
a few years to get to the pointto publish it, but you know
(13:24):
it's the bride you know to lookat, but you know it's the bride,
it you know to look at thecover, that's the bride of
christ ascending, and so we arethe bride of christ.
And so there's a community thatI host as well, that you know
that you're in as well too.
Kingdom brides arise, andthat's a private community that
(13:45):
I have on facebook.
Um, because we are arising ashis bride.
The bride is the church, yes,but the daughters to the king
recognizing that we are his, uh,bride.
Ephesians talks about, you know,for our hearts to be, for him
to find us spotless, right, andRevelation talks about the bride
(14:10):
of Christ, and he brings meback to the heart.
He always brings me back to theheart Because out of the heart,
the mount speaks right, or outof the abundance of the heart,
you know, we, we, we speak, webehave, we think, and so it's
(14:30):
the heart healing and, and it'sthe bride, the preparation of
the bride is is her heart thehealing of the heart is is what
he laid upon me really deeply toaddress the heart issues.
And so you know, in theworkbook I share a little bit
(14:50):
about my own.
You know I give an example ineach of the chapters so they you
know they could identify in oneway or another.
And then I give them heart work, which is questions to dig into
their own heart work and whatthat looks like, and then we
coach and counsel through that.
(15:10):
But it was really birthed frommy own experiences.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
And I think that really is the best method, right
?
Yes, I mean, I would say, andtruly being in tune with Holy
Spirit.
You said that he was giving youkeys along the way.
I was curious.
So, when you started yourjourney in counseling, was that
(15:38):
like a challenging thing for youto pursue?
To start, did somebody mentionto you like a referral, I know
for some people that I'veencountered along the way and I
feel like we're just maybe in atime where more people are
isolating and they're notseeking out help.
(15:59):
I don't know if you agree tothat.
What do you think about that?
Speaker 2 (16:04):
Yes, well, I think that you know, I know, in my
experience, like the things thatI've endured, you know, just to
be able to hear somebody else'sheart and being able to relate
in some way, I found that theywere able to trust me and, you
(16:24):
know, and just receive, whetherI was just praying for them or I
was an ear for them, and then Irecognized I love this, this is
who I feel like, this is.
It comes, it flowed out of methat, you know, that passion
just kind of flows out of me,and so I recognize how he wired
(16:47):
me, how he has been equipping me, you know, to come alongside of
others with the same comfortthat the Lord right, that's
scriptural with the same comfortthat he has given to us, to
come alongside of others and andI think that we endure these
things, you know, whether it's,you know, rape or you know,
(17:08):
that's an experience that I, youknow, or some sort of trauma.
When we're, when we're able toshare these things with other
people, it gives them their, Ibelieve, their, their hearts.
You know their guard goes downand their hearts are open
because you can relate to themin some way.
Yes, yes, and that, yeah.
(17:31):
So I think it just began fromall of that, you know, and it's
kind of it's growing to a pointwhere it's like I want to share
more with other people and youknow, and work with others to
help, help, set them free.
Help help, you know, be avessel that the Lord can use.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
Yes, well, would you, would you say that you're
noticing that more people areisolating rather than reaching
out?
Speaker 2 (18:00):
Yes, yes, I agree with that, and I don't know, you
know, I think, yes, yes, Iagree with that, and I don't
know, you know, I think that'sbeen over a few years, most
definitely.
I've seen that where people arepulling back and but more than
ever, you know, we, we need eachother, we need people in our
(18:20):
lives and those that are thatcan share from a healthy
perspective and, you know, cancelebrate you, and you know
people want to feel seen andheard and valued, and so when we
come from that place of beinggenuine, of wanting to celebrate
them and love them and andcheer them on, you know it's,
(18:45):
it's the fellowship that'smissing and we just you know it
just made me think of this everyother month there's a Bible
study that we do here in TampaBay if anybody hears this and is
local and so it's oncultivating friendships.
So it's on cultivatingfriendships and cults, but but
(19:08):
our number one friendship iswith the lord.
Yes, and so it's when, you know, talking about that, we, you
know they're hungry forfellowship and we can come
together and talk about healthyrelationships and friendships,
but it's always brought back toit's the Lord who's our bestest
friend, right?
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (19:28):
Well, what would you say to somebody who you know
maybe they've been isolating fora while and they're just kind
of feeling that nudge that theyneed to get out and either, you
know, join in some community or,you know, maybe they're not
even local to you.
If they are, please reach outto Deb, and even online I mean,
deb's got her Facebook group youcan always join as well.
(19:49):
Um, but I do believe that we'vetalked about this before he's
really calling us to get inperson more, wouldn't you say.
Do you say to somebody who'shasn't you know, they've kind of
been more in hiding for alittle while, what would you say
to them to kind of get outthere and start connecting again
?
Speaker 2 (20:10):
Oh, I would say to her that she needs to to step
out, because Jesus, that God haswithin her, because she's lived
through experiences that hewants to to use, to use her for
(20:36):
that there's power in her voice,that she is seen, and so I
would encourage her to movethrough the resistance you talk
about that a lot and thatresistance of stepping out of
the comfort zones and step intothe fulfillment of what God has.
And I would just encourage themto do so, because people need
(21:00):
what they have within them,their gifts, the abilities,
their talents that God hasplaced in them is needed.
The message that God haspackaged within them needs to go
forth.
We talk about your you know ourroar, roar, yes, Right, and, and
so it's encouraging them thatthat, yes, they are needed and
(21:25):
they are seen and valued.
It's time for them to step out.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
Can I add too like a lot of times I've shared this
with people before, like whatyou maybe need is what he's
calling you to release and setthe table for for others?
Yes, because you're not alwaysgoing to get what you need from
others, no, and you that verything that you need.
If you put it out there, youmight find that there's more
(21:54):
people that need what you need,and it becomes a community.
Yes, wouldn't you say?
Speaker 2 (22:00):
yes, yes, yeah, yeah, it's like the one who's afraid
to ask a question, um for it tobe, you know, but, but, but, but
, that question being asked, youknow, stirs up.
You know the others who werelike I was thinking that too,
and it's, it's, it's just likeit's, it's moving, yes, it's
(22:21):
moving past um, and I think thatgoes with just recognizing or
wanting to recognize that um, um, they're again, their value in
in the kingdom identity of whothey are, um, you know, to
recognize their um.
I go back to the value, youknow that, just of knowing who
(22:46):
they are in christ and steppingout because, um, people need
what they um have within themand, before you know it, what,
yes, what their need is, theywill see that there's a
community out there that'shungry for the same thing.
Yeah, absolutely, and and thelord has taught me this, you
know, and I think you know, Iknow that you and I have talked
(23:09):
about this before, but he'scultivating a brave heart.
You know, stepping out of thatcomfort zone is.
It's scary, you know, becauseit's not familiar.
We like to stay in the familiar.
Even though it's uncomfortable,it's still comfortable in the
sense that it's what we know.
(23:30):
But God is out there, he'scalling us to step out of the
boat, right, yes, and do it,even afraid, because they're not
alone.
God is literally surroundingthem, within them.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
Yeah, you know, yeah, within them.
Well, and I think it's amazingtoo.
Yeah, I don't know.
I've been thinking about this alot lately and you know, if you
look at the disciples and mostof the people in the Bible, like
they weren't perfectly puttogether and he like qualifies
(24:08):
us C-A-L-L-ifies us as we goalong, right, if you're just
sitting on the bench likenothing's happening, yes, right,
you got to get in the game andlike take a swing and you're
probably going to miss a lot.
I mean, my boys played baseballand they didn't just naturally
(24:35):
know how to play.
Yeah, right, you have topractice.
And there's a lot of things Idon't know about you.
Like, I was gonna ask, likewhat would you say for you?
Is maybe one of the moreuncomfortable things that he
like has you to do, like maybein this season or what you feel
is coming?
Speaker 2 (24:51):
well it's.
It's definitely stepping out ondifferent platforms.
You know, know and and andsharing, and you know speaking
and talking, and so it's justthe very thing that you know or
or or.
You know being in front of agroup and you know presenting,
you know a teaching or, and Iknow he's called.
(25:14):
You know, there's a lot withinmy heart that I know he's placed
there and I'm excited.
But I have to get, and I knowthis is true for me.
I have to get out of my own way, or get out of God's way,
because I'm in, I'm in his wayand I'm in my own way.
I'm sabotaging when,self-sabotaging, when, when I'm
(25:36):
not being obedient, or when Iput it on the back burner and
I've done that before and hebrings it right back.
You know it's time.
He'll tell me, I feel it, Iknow it.
When he'll say Okay, it is timefor you to show up.
Because, I can sit back for alittle bit.
You know longer than you know Ishould and and I know that, I
(26:00):
know when it's time to step out,and even afraid, you know, and
giving myself this is grace.
Giving myself permission to notalways get it, you know right,
and it's that it's practicinglike you said.
You know right, and it's thatit's practicing like you said
you know, um, practicing, he'sequipping us, he's teaching us,
(26:24):
but but giving myself permissionto maybe get it wrong or not,
like I had it all togetherbecause I'm learning, giving
myself permission to learn,that's the bottom line that's so
good, giving myself permissionto learn.
And in the learning it won'talways look, you know, polished
(26:44):
Right, but you'll never get tothat place unless you begin
Right.
You know, like you said, withthe baseball it's the swinging
and the missing, and so it'sgrowing in the learning.
I mean, that's a message Ialways want to tell my kids,
because it's like give yourselfpermission to grow, to learn.
Always be teachable, and thatis something you know, lord.
(27:07):
I always want to be teachable.
May I never be comfortableSidelines.
You know we can always take abreak and rest, but I recognize
his voice when he says I needyou now to show up.
Yeah, we've got work to do.
Speaker 1 (27:24):
I love to be able to like sometimes be able to cheer
you on, to be like, come on, dadgo.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
I know and you do.
That's so great because you aresuch an encourager and a you
champion others on your, yourvoice is so important and the
words that he speaks through.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
I just love that you've been able to encapsulate
this, and not only a workbook,but you know, the I am
statements, the journaling, whatis coming up with those
beautiful book babies?
Speaker 2 (28:00):
What's coming up how are you integrating them?
Yeah, so on Monday, august 4th,I'm going to start 100 days of
sharing a recording onto theFacebook community page Kingdom
Brides Arise.
That's a private community forladies who would like to be a
(28:23):
part of that, but I'm going toput that there.
I'm going to put that ontoYouTube, the recordings, and
TikTok is my thought as well.
So my heart is to do 100 daysof the I am statements.
Take, taking a statement a day,declaring it and praying into
(28:45):
that, over them, and so that'swhat I'm going to do with the
journal.
And then, as far as theworkbook goes, those that are
just you, ready to go.
You know what I need some hearthealing.
You know, um, and are ready tojust step into a journey of, of
(29:06):
processing those things andmoving past.
You know, um, there's grace andall of that, and forgiveness
and all of that, and and um,there's, there's a journey, um,
that I would love to take withothers, you know, to team up and
partner with them to help themwalk through some things that
God wants to heal.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
Yes.
I would love to have you had.
Um, I know it's a new release,have you?
Have you had a chance to walkthrough this with anybody
recently?
Speaker 2 (29:37):
Yes, so the workbook, yes, yes, so, and and I have
been doing that um for a fewyears where I would send the PDF
chapter to someone and we wouldwork on it that way, um, but
now that it's in a workbookformat, um, yes, just being able
(29:57):
to give them a workbook and,and you know, for them to get
the workbook and just go throughit and we take a chapter at a
time and dive into that.
And there's hard work andquestions to answer and you know
we talk about this thing.
So, yes, you know, but you knowwe'd love to be able to, to
help to come alongside of others.
You know, if love to be able toum to to help to come alongside
(30:19):
of others, you know, if this issomething that they hear and
they feel led, I'd be happy tochat.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
Yeah.
Well, I just want to highlighttoo.
Um, it started with you sendinga PDF.
Yes, you didn't have the bookfirst.
You didn't wait to release ituntil the book was ready.
Speaker 2 (30:43):
Yes, that is such a good point.
Yeah, so that was 2019 is whenhe was dropping all of this, the
chapters, into my heart and in20, I think it was when,
actually, when we had thelockdown.
I think it was when, actually,when we have a lockdown where a
lot of it was on Zoom.
So he opened that up for me.
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Where I was work, I was sendingthe clients PDFs of every
chapter.
We would jump on a Zoom calland, yeah, so he was.
I recognized that he wasbirthing it.
Yes and yeah, and then theworkbook was, you know, about a
year or two in the works.
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So, yes, you work with what wehave Right, and then God will
grow it?
Speaker 1 (31:30):
Yeah, absolutely, and I think you know what he's
highlighted to me quite a bitover the years is like what's in
your hands?
Speaker 2 (31:44):
Yes, yes, right, yes.
To me, quite a bit over theyears, is like what's in your
hands?
Yes, yes, right, yes, kristen,because because we wait, we can
wait, and well, I'm not readyenough where I don't know enough
, where it's not perfect enough,right and I'm not enough.
Speaker 1 (31:53):
I don't have enough.
All the opposite, I am's ofwhat you're releasing, right,
and those are the lies.
Yes, I don't, the I don'ts.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
I don'ts.
Those are the lies right, thoseare exactly the lies and they
prevent us to move ahead andforward.
And because we can always comeup with some sort or the enemy
will whisper that some sort ofexcuse not to.
And you know we justify oh,it's not prepared enough for you
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know, yes and so we?
Speaker 1 (32:26):
what is the strongest ?
I mean, I feel like everybodyencounters this.
I mean, at least and maybe it'sjust me, but I'm, I feel like
the enemy is trying to squawk atme every day Like shut up.
Um, maybe it's just me, I don'tknow, but what?
What for you has been?
Maybe one of those I don't havethat has tried the hardest to
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keep you stopped in your tracks?
Speaker 2 (32:52):
Oh, that I, that I I don't have, he'll, he'll, he'll
play this game with me.
That I don't have, he'll playthis game with me.
That I don't have enough to,you know, to share or to give to
others.
Or you know who am I, or youknow, and I know it's the lie,
and so that's where it's justlike, no, I see you, I see you
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saying, I hear you and I rebukeyou in Jesus name because that's
not who I am.
And again it's going back.
And this is, I think that that'sthe renewing of our mindset,
and that's a daily walk, or amoment by moment walk, actually,
because you know we, of course,you know these things come at
us, these darts.
You know that he tries to, youknow, to hurt us with and get us
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to think differently and actdifferently and be different,
and it's just like wait a minute, I see you.
No, that's not who I am.
Even though I might feel weakin a place, I think it's
important to go.
No, no, greater is the Lord wholives within me than the enemy
of this world.
So you know he's, if he's in myheart, he is so close to me
(34:05):
that I, you know, lord, I wantto feel the very breath of you.
I want to feel your heartbeat.
It's, you know, so it's lookingI often refer to.
I read a book one time that wastalking about the interior life
and that really stuck out to mebecause it's like he is all
within our hearts andrecognizing that we are, we are
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our strength, our peace, our joy, a love that we, you know, have
for people.
It's just Lord, you know, beingfilled with his spirit so that
we can then pour out, yes.
Speaker 1 (34:45):
From the overflow.
Yes, yes, yeah, and I just lovethat you know over time and I
want to, maybe you could speakto somebody who just really
feels kind of stuck with some ofthose lies, like they literally
feel, like they're.
I don't know, I'm just seeingsomebody, maybe in quicksand,
(35:05):
like what would you say to them?
Speaker 2 (35:09):
Well, I would just say to them that that's you know
, anything that that is ugly ornegative or hurtful in any way.
Like we said, you're not in.
You know those thoughts thatyou're not enough or you know
you're not seeing your way.
Like we said, you're not in.
You know those thoughts thatyou're not enough or you're not,
you're not seeing you're.
You know you're not good enoughor smart enough.
All lies, all lies, all lies,and and it's looking at that lie
(35:31):
and going, no, you know, andreally really making that
declaration no, this is who I amin Christ, this is who I am in
Christ, this is who I am.
And and I would just say to themthat it's um, to recognize the
lie and be and being intentional.
See, then, that goes with theheart work as well, being
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intentional.
That is not who you are.
And speaking to that person, torecognize that they are, you
know, with the Lord, that theyare, that they have a purpose
and they have, they are filledwith his spirit, they have
kingdom, kingdom.
The kingdom of God lives withinus.
(36:15):
The kingdom of God lives withinthem.
So, taking care of our mindset,our temples, you know that it
can fulfill.
You know the purpose and theplans that he has, the will that
your heart and this is a prayeryou know to always pray.
(36:47):
May my heart always align withyour heart, Lord.
And so if we pray that prayer,he'll point out where we're not
aligned, If our thinking is notaligned to the word of God, who
speaks about who we are in him.
When we know him more, thenwe're going to know more about
who we are.
Say that again.
(37:09):
When we know yes, when we knowmore of who he is, then we will
know more about who we are.
Then we will know more aboutwho we are because we're created
Genesis 1, 26, we're created inhis likeness, right the image
of God we were created with.
So if we are created in hislikeness, then it's recognizing
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the lie and going wait a minute,you know that's not the Lord.
So, therefore, I rebuke that andI replace it with God's truth,
because what does it say?
God's truth sets us free and so, but I would, that's what I
would, share with her.
Don't, don't buy into the lieanymore.
Recognize it, be intentionalabout going.
You know, you know, lord, youtransform my mindset, transform,
(38:03):
shift my thinking.
Align my heart with your heartand let him begin to stir that
up and and and heal what, whatneeds to be healed, and yeah,
that's so good.
Speaker 1 (38:15):
I love, I love the passion behind your voice in all
of this to release.
I was curious if you could giveus a little sneak peek.
Would you be open?
I know you said you shared someexamples in the chapters in
your workbook, but would youmaybe share, maybe a shortened
(38:36):
um, an example that you sharedof of part of your testimony,
and then, um, maybe one of thequestions that's in that chapter
to accompany?
Speaker 2 (38:47):
And let me see here, let me see, I'm putting you on
the spot.
Speaker 1 (38:52):
Yes, let me see.
I love sneak peeks.
Speaker 2 (38:56):
Um, yes, yes, let's see here Chapter one.
So let's see here, um, okay, soin chapter one I talk about the
word crush because the Lord andI say here I was in a season of
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confusion and did notunderstand a few things that
were happening around me.
Those who I was the closest towere demonstrating some very
peculiar behaviors, which theywere.
During that time the Lord beganto speak.
The word crush to me, the wordappeared everywhere and I
recognized that was how the Lordwas speaking to.
The word crush to me, the wordappeared everywhere and I
recognized that was how the Lordwas speaking to me.
He was catching my attentionduring a time.
(39:41):
During that time, a friend,without knowing, had given me a
song called new wine.
So that's where that new winesong came to me back then.
And so I I just talked about thecrushing experience that I had,
and the Lord I go on to say theLord was encouraging me to let
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go of the old mindsets,behaviors, the attitudes, even
relationships that no longercelebrated the woman of God I
was becoming in this season.
And so I go on to share a fewthings about codependency and
the characteristics of an orphanheart.
(40:22):
So an orphan heart, if we'vebeen adopted into the kingdom of
God.
We write the word of God sayswe get to call him Abba, we are
adopted into the kingdom, and so, but we often live with the
characteristics of an orphanheart, you know, with whether
that's and I go on to explainthat here where they're striving
(40:43):
perfectionism, maybe a sense ofcompetition, seeking approval,
people pleasing, compromising,sing, and so I'm, and so I just
go into all of that and and theheart work would be, um, I talk
about it into, I talk about heretoo, song of songs 215, where
(41:05):
it talks about the little foxesthat spoil the vineyard and and
with god, he says in thatchapter that we can, we can
capture those foxes together.
Well, and I go on to explain alittle bit about that in the
chapter and the heart work, thequestion is, what do you think
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catch the little foxes refers toin your heart?
So what are the little foxesthat spoil the vineyard, spoil
your heart?
What does that look like?
And so you know that could be.
You know several things basedon to their experiences, the
pain, traumas that they'veendured.
(41:46):
So we go over that together.
About the little foxes, youknow what is that pain and what
does that look like Shame, guilt, condemnation, rejection is
huge and so yeah, so good, deb.
Speaker 1 (42:03):
Yeah, you got to get on this I'm telling you.
So that's the workbook.
Would you be open to sharingday one of your journal
devotional with us?
Speaker 2 (42:17):
yes, yes, yes, the day one practice for next week.
Yes, okay.
So journal, so day one istalking about, um, okay.
It says here uh, I am a childof the Most High God, chosen and
dearly loved, and that's 1Peter 2.9.
(42:40):
That's the verse that talksabout that we're chosen, that
we're a royal priesthood, right,and so, recognizing that I am
is in caps I am a child of themost high God, chosen and dearly
loved.
So, recognizing that you arechosen, you've been set apart,
(43:01):
you are loved beyond measure,you belong to God.
He's called you out of darknessand brought you into his
wonderful light, his wonderfullight.
So, really taking that verseand the heart activation is
inviting him into the momentsthat he brings to your attention
(43:22):
.
So in the journaling it's likeyou know where, where, and I
will encourage them to, you know, express journal to the Lord
where you don't feel seen orchosen, you know, but the Word
of God says that you are.
He's called you out of darkness, you know you, you're in the
(43:43):
kingdom of God, so, you know,inviting him into that.
What does he want to show you?
What does he want to reveal toyou?
Maybe to let go of?
And so you know and I'm going toshare some prompts with you
know, with those who tune in,you know what does it mean to be
chosen?
What does that look like to you?
(44:03):
Where in your life have youbelieved a lie about your worth
or belonging?
You know what?
What does that look like?
You know what does that looklike?
So in the, so that particularday again just says I am a child
of the Most High God, chosenand dearly loved.
(44:24):
It gives the scripture and aplace to journal, and so I'm
going to take it a little bitfurther when I do the 100 days
and be able to point out a fewthings from a healing
perspective.
It's like bringing some kingdomnuggets, yeah.
Speaker 1 (44:40):
You're bringing more keys beyond what you would
experience in the book, butdefinitely have the book in hand
.
Speaker 2 (44:47):
Yes, yes, just to be able to then take it to the Lord
journal what he brings, what hewants to reveal, you know, so
that there's a healing thattakes place.
Speaker 1 (45:00):
Yeah, and what we were talking about you know
before we came on here.
I was reminded, you know, yearsago when I got saved, I did
some.
You know, I did a particularBible study when I, you know,
first started going to churchwhen I was 25.
And I've just been prompted,like I keep forgetting I should
do this today but to go back andlook at the book to see the
(45:20):
growth that has happened.
And I was just sharing with Deb, like this, this journal slash,
you know, devotional all thedeclarations to be able to
encapsulate and have it in oneplace.
It's almost like a treasurethat you can go back and look at
.
Speaker 2 (45:35):
Yes, Right, yes, that's so good.
And it's amazing when you do goback and you reread some of
your entries and journals andwhere you were a year ago, five
years ago and three years, it'sjust like wow, you can see what
God has done and and that's thereally cool thing- yeah, and I
(45:58):
think he really I mean, I'm notalways the best journaler I am
using like an electric a lot oftimes.
Speaker 1 (46:04):
I'm using like an electronic app called journey,
which is really great.
I keep track of like the littlemoments each day to be able to
look back on, and I think hereally loves that we take notice
of these things, that we areremembering, that we're being
reminded of just those littlemoments and the ways that he
talks to us, right, yes, yes,because he's always talking to
(46:27):
us.
Speaker 2 (46:28):
Yes, we just did an event the other day, a gathering
about hearing the voice of God,so tuning our ears into him and
listening and and being still,and you know that's well.
What I believe is cultivatingintimacy with him.
You know, going to the secretplace with him and bringing our
(46:49):
Bibles or journals, and thenthat you know that doesn't mean
you know to be still.
You know you can be about yourday, but your heart is always
postured.
Yes, right In the sense ofposition to posture to his heart
, and you can be in the midst ofyour day, but yet you're being
(47:10):
still and recognizing.
You know him and journal, youknow lunch, and you know, or you
know, however you, however, ourfriends here, seek the Lord.
Those journal entries, however,too, like you just said,
whether it's on the computer orjournaling, I think is so
empowering because it's ourtestimony.
(47:32):
Yes, it is Really yeah and just, and it's our testimony.
Yes, it is yeah and just, andit's our healing.
It's the journey, and and whatwe learn is what we share with
other people.
Speaker 1 (47:43):
It's not it's never.
Speaker 2 (47:44):
I learned this years ago and when I was going through
my own healing.
It's not about us, it's notabout me, it's not.
It's about what we learn andthen helping the others along me
.
Speaker 1 (47:56):
It's not.
It's about what we learn.
Yes, and then helping theothers along.
Speaker 2 (47:59):
Right, because we're not called to keep it to ourself
.
No right, oh, it's what god hasdone, so why not give him the
glory?
And and that's if I can justshare this too that's where it's
like that, that whatever,because shame can be attached to
, to that and that's the healingthat God wants to bring,
because you know what God isdoing is amazing and the healing
(48:21):
that's taken place.
So there's no shame in any ofwhat we've endured.
Somebody had told me this yearsago, and I've always.
It was a key that helped reallyunlock me and it was said to me
.
A counselor said said to me thatGod trusts you with what you've
walked through.
(48:42):
And that was powerful because alot of it was you know my own
behaviors and and ugly, and youknow my part in things too.
You know it's not just one sidedalways, and so there's, you
know there's stories, differentstories, and it's just like god
trust me with what I walkedthrough, even though it was, you
know, you know ugly, it's like,you know, I had to look at that
(49:05):
and go, wow, you know, it took,it took shame away, it helped
heal, um and in in the sensethat wow you, you know, okay,
I'm going to use this, and thenI do.
When I'm, you know, talking withothers and being able to share
with others when God wants me toand it comes up, it's like,
(49:27):
okay, I'll share, lord, becauseit will help release perhaps
somebody else, and you knowyou're coming alongside of them
with an understanding of youknow, I walked through.
We can't share what we don'texperience Right In one way or
another.
We can kind of come to you knowand help others along, yeah, so
(49:52):
yeah, God wants to remove theveil of you know, shame and all
of that that would want toquench or squash who we are, the
spirit of God who lives withinus and cause us to shrink back.
Speaker 1 (50:06):
And I'm just saying, oh, no, we, we keep you know in
in over the years, like we havebeen able to encourage each
other and have, like I justreally believe and as you're
talking, you know to have people.
I say it all the time you needpeople in your corner, like,
find somebody that you resonatewith.
(50:28):
You know, like you're hearingDeb's voice today, reach out to
her.
Hearing Deb's voice today,reach out to her.
Um, she has such a pure heartand loves to listen, loves to
share the things that the Lordhas brought her through and the
ways that he's brought her tobreak through, to share with you
so that you can getbreakthrough as well.
Um, it's pretty cool Cause, asI'm listening here, there's like
(50:50):
a hawk like right out, sothat's pretty significant.
Anyways, deb, would you be open?
I think I don't know if youremember the last time we were
on, but you know I really dothis for the one, and if you, I
know you spoke a word oversomebody earlier, but is there
anything else that you'd want tospeak over?
(51:11):
Most likely a woman that'slistening in today, and then
would you pray us out today?
Speaker 2 (51:16):
Yes, yes, yeah.
So I'm praying that.
I said this to somebodyyesterday and I feel led to
share it today it's time to cometo the front, even in the back.
Come to the front, even in theback.
(51:39):
So whoever feels like they'rein the back of the line and and
you know God sees you and he'scalling you forth, I don't know,
I just feel like that's a wordthat you know.
When I shared it yesterday,that person felt it and I feel
like I felt it today as we'retalking, that it's time to come
forth.
God sees you, god hears you andhe knows your heart and he's
(52:02):
with you and literally, he hasyour hand.
Whoever this could be for, hehas your hand and he's leading
you to sit at the table with him.
Yeah, you to sit at the tablewith him.
Yeah, you know, one of thethings that also to I just spoke
about this today, this morningis somebody had shared a dream,
if I can share this, somebodyhad shared a dream with me that
(52:23):
they had that, that she saw thatthis is going back a few years
and she saw that I was sittingat a little kids table.
You know, at weddings, like atholidays and holidays, yes,
exactly.
And she said you need to cometo the adult table.
(52:43):
You need to.
You need to sit at God's table,is what she said.
And so I felt that here now,whoever feels, you know like
they're in the back, you knowyou need to come forth and you
need to sit at God's table.
You need to sit with him and he.
There are treasures of hisheart that he wants to share
with you, and so, so, yeah, so Ipray, father, in Jesus name, my
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Lord, that, as this word goesout, lord, that you're moving
upon the hearts of yourdaughters, lord, god, that
you're touching them in such away that you're awakening them,
that you're blowing your Ruachbreath, the breath of God is
igniting, lord, the spark withintheir bellies.
Lord, god, to stir them up,lord, to know that they are seen
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and heard and valued and soloved by you unconditionally,
lord, that they can come fromshrinking back and come forward,
in Jesus' name, to sit at thetable with you, to see and to
experience you so much deeper,lord, god, because you're
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wanting to take your daughtersdeeper, you're wanting to take
them into a deeper knowing ofwho you are, so you can share
who they are with them, lord, sothat you can heal hearts and
set your people free.
So, father, I just thank you somuch for this time.
Lord, I thank you for thosethat tune in Women.
The same thing for them as well.
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God sees, god knows, god hears.
And so, father, I thank you.
I thank you for Kristen's heart, lord, god, I thank you that
she's a warrior for you, lord,and she's setting Lord the
captives free, lord, steppingout of the cages and stepping
into all that you have for them,unlocking hearts as well.
So, father, thank you for thistime.
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I ask you to bless my sisterbeyond measure and bless those
that are tuning in, lord Again.
Stir their hearts, lord, andget them ready for their next
assignment that you have forthem, with passion and purpose
and Holy Spirit power.
In Jesus name, I pray.
Amen.
Speaker 1 (54:57):
Amen.
Well, Deb, what is the best wayfor people to get in contact
with you?
And I'll be sure to add that tothe show notes as well.
Speaker 2 (55:05):
Okay, well, I'm on Facebook, so I'm there and and
then from there, they're welcometo send me a note, or would
love to invite them into theKingdom Brides Arise community,
which is the reign in royalty.
It's reign in royalty, but Ican send you a link if you'd
(55:28):
like.
Speaker 1 (55:28):
Yeah, we can put it in the show notes for sure, okay
, and then when you search up onFacebook, do you want to just
spell out your name so peoplecan search you up right now?
Speaker 2 (55:38):
Yes, it's Deborah D E B O R A H, then my last name is
Y O E R G.
Perfect.
Speaker 1 (55:48):
Yes, love it.
Do you have any other methodsthat you wanted to share as well
?
Speaker 2 (55:56):
Well, I have a YouTube page and that's under my
name as well.
Okay, and very, very.
You're starting TikTok.
Speaker 1 (56:06):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (56:07):
That's a whole different, the whole thing.
Yeah, I'm kind of like I saidbefore grace in the learning,
you're stepping out, I'mstepping out, I love it.
Speaker 1 (56:14):
So that's said before grace in the learning, you're
stepping out, I'm stepping out,I love it.
Speaker 2 (56:16):
So that's, that's under my name too.
Speaker 1 (56:19):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (56:20):
DebYorg Y-O-E-R-G.
Speaker 1 (56:23):
Perfect.
Well, I am so excited for you.
Definitely connect with Deb ifyou are wanting to walk through
you know the workbook with herin a coaching relationship and
then also be sure to tune in toher lives.
I'll be sure to, like I said,add the link to the Facebook
group.
(56:43):
And then, Deb, thank you forbeing on again and thank you for
being a brave voice who'ssetting many free as well.
So I will be back with anotherepisode next week.
Speaker 2 (56:53):
Thanks, Deb, Thank you so much, my friend.
Bye-bye.
Welcome to the Hope Unlocked podcast.
I'm your host, Kristen Kurtz,and I'm also the founder of New
Wings Coaching.
I help and empower wildheartedand adventurous women of faith
feeling caged and stuck, unlocktheir true purpose and potential
, break free from limitationsand thrive with confidence,
courage and hope.
If you're curious to learn moreabout coaching with me, head to
newwingscoachingnet and be sureto explore the show notes for
(00:38):
ways to connect with me further.
Get ready to dive in as weuncover empowering keys and
insights in this episode.
So tune in and let's unlockhope together.
Welcome to the Hope Unlockedpodcast.
I'm Kristen Kurtz, your host.
I pray this episode is like aholy IV of hope for your soul.
Please help me.
Welcome Deb Yorg to the show.
I am so excited to have herback on today.
(01:00):
She is just a sweet longtimefriend and just powerful prayer
warrior, fellow coach.
I'll have her tell more aboutherself, but this is her second
time back on, so it's always funto have people back on the show
and if you want to go back andlisten to her, she's episode 15.
(01:23):
So if you guys have beenlistening for a while, you know
that that was a while ago andthat was actually back in June
of 2023, which was about a monthafter this podcast was released
.
So, Deb, would you be just opento sharing a little bit more
about yourself besides what Ishared?
Speaker 2 (01:40):
Oh, absolutely.
Thank you so much, my friend.
I so appreciate you and excitedto be on here and I can't
believe it was 23.
We've talked about that beforeand coaching and so, yes, so
(02:07):
just unlocking.
So I love that because I feellike you and I are kindred
hearts where the Lord has putyou know, the same, just the
passion to help others getunlocked and yeah, so he's
placed that within me as welland just being able to share
with others.
I'm just someone who loves tocelebrate others as well as you.
(02:32):
Yeah, and just you know I'm justhelping them through their
obstacles or past traumas,wounds.
You know that was something thelord had said to me um years
ago.
You know you can't outrun yourpast and it's just you know he
put that on my heart, that it's.
(02:53):
You have to face it and dealwith those things with the lord,
yeah, you know, and so, um,yeah, so that's been my heart.
It's it's been since about 2012that I really, you know, dug
into this and and he's placedthis on my heart to share with
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others.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
Yes, I love what you said.
You can't, you said you can'toutrun your past, right?
No, yes, I said that, but youcan't, you can't, you can't
outrun your past, that's.
It's almost like if I couldhave a tape recorder I'd rewind
a little bit, cause I couldn'tsay that for some reason you
can't outrun your past.
So had you, I mean, in yourlife, had you spent some time
(03:39):
trying to outrun your pastpersonally?
Well, I, yeah.
Or did you just recognize thatin others as well?
Speaker 2 (03:47):
I recognize that in in in others, but it's, it's
like I, I knew that the Lord wasspeaking to my heart.
So in 2007, I believe it waswhere, you know, I, I, I was
ready to just deal with some ofthe things that I felt like, wow
, these things are, you know,and I really didn't know at the
time, but I felt like they wereblocking me, I couldn't move.
(04:09):
And he's like, you know, weneed to unwrap these things, we
need to, you know.
So I worked with a counselorand you know that that helped me
back then to to face a fewthings that I felt, like you
know, and there are times and Ihad done some work before, but
it's like you know, the Lordwill heal and then he'll bring
(04:32):
you to another place and feellike, you know, I always say
it's like an onion, where hekind of peels back a layer and
it's like I thought we've workedon this.
I know, right, and yeah, andit's like I thought we've worked
on on this, I know right andyeah, and it's just like, and
you know, we can't outrun thesethings, we can't, you know, take
(04:54):
that big girl gulp is what I'dsay and kind of push down the
emotions because, um, they go.
Some, you know they hurt youphysically as well.
They, you know they cause thesephysical reactions in our
bodies and spiritually it hurtsus and emotionally and it's I
felt like the Lord was saying no, it's time, it's time to deal
(05:18):
with these, with these hurts.
And that was back then, youknow.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
Yeah, 2007.
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
That's amazing, yes.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
So he was showing me then.
So I went through my own hearthealing and you know, a ministry
was birthed back then ofbreaking chains and you know
conferences and events andgatherings that he placed on my
(05:50):
heart.
But it was, it was in, I thinkit was when we were, when you
and I were talking in 23.
He did give me 12 kingdom keys,yes, yes, and so it's kingdom
coaching and working with otherswho that you know, for the Lord
(06:11):
to, just like you know, unlockour hearts.
Song of songs, five, four andthe passion, says my beloved
reached into into me to unlockmy heart.
And and that's where it startedto really take form, when I,
you know, he, holy Spirit, hadhelped me to write a workbook
(06:34):
from the program, the coachingprogram that he was placing upon
my heart.
And it's like he's reachinginto our hearts to unlock.
And it's like he's reachinginto our hearts to unlock.
It's twofold Unlock the heartfrom the pain, the traumas and
(06:58):
the things that we need that welock with bolts.
And it's unlocking our heartsso that he can heal.
Then unlocking our hearts tothe potential, you know, of who
we are, our destinies to stepinto, from a, a healed heart or,
you know, heart, that is, um,healing.
Yeah, so that's where thecoaching program was really uh,
(07:22):
stirred up in me and birth andnow published in an Instagram
workbook.
Yes, when did it publish?
So that was just a few monthsago.
So just a few months ago, inthe beginning of the year.
That was published and then theLord dropped in my heart.
(07:42):
I mean, it was so quickly wherehe just said, okay, holy Spirit
said, let's create 100, I amstatements, I know and so that
was birthed really quickly,where now it's published as well
.
It's a companion journal to theworkbook, although it's, you
(08:04):
know, it's separate, as you know, it doesn't need to be a
companion to it, but it's adevotion, it's a journal and a
place where the declaration is Iam, and then I have the
declaration and then a place tojournal and write and, of course
, the scripture location too isthere and so, um, you know, like
(08:24):
I am a new creation in christ,my, my past does not define me.
Yes, you know, and and I believethat, as we did, because it's a
renewing of our mindset, youknow, walking in kingdom,
kingdom mindset, kingdomidentity, kingdom confidence, is
that authority yes that we haveand the daughters to the king.
(08:46):
You know, we, we walk, and thisis what he showed me.
You know, um, we're royalty inthe kingdom of god.
That's the name of the programis reign in royalty, yeah, and
you know, we're crowned by him,but we don't walk in that
victory because we feel defeatedor we walk around the mountain
over and over and over again,and that's where the Lord is
(09:08):
saying, no, we need to addressthe heart and he needs to bring
a healing to it.
And, yeah, so I love to workwith others to help them unpack
the heart healing that God wantsto do unpack the heart healing
that God wants to do.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
Yeah Well, I just, I mean, I absolutely love your
heart but, like you said, we, wedefinitely are kindred spirits
in so many different ways.
I would just love to hear alittle bit about the process
just to even bring this into theworld.
You know, I can't imagine.
It sounds like the I amdevotional slash journal came
(09:48):
really quickly, but the, theworkbook how how did that
process go for you?
Speaker 2 (09:54):
That's interesting.
Well, you know that that's over, that's over.
You know several years, severalyears.
So it started in seven, 2007,where I just began my own
journey, like I had mentioned,and seeking counsel and help and
in just the way that I wasprocessing.
(10:15):
I was a believer at the timebut I was still walking in.
You know, guilt or shame andyou know, from mistakes and sin
that I have, that I've made.
And so you know, just lookingat all of that and you know, and
step in, you know, a marriagethat ended.
(10:36):
You know I have two sons fromthat relationship and just
looking back and healing fromall of that, you know there's,
there's sin on my part as well.
So having to look at that andgo, okay, you know that needs to
.
You know I'm going through aneating disorder because of the
way that I handled my, my, mypain back back in that in those
(10:59):
days that was in the 90s.
You know I had an eatingdisorder because I didn't deal
with things the way that Ididn't know the Lord.
So I took control of what Icould control, which is, you
know, and so an eating disorderwas formed 2007,.
(11:36):
2007 is really when I I beganto what was.
It was 2000, where I reallybegan to.
You know, I began to eat and Iof sort through, unpack some of
that and renew my mindset andunderstanding.
Well, if I'm a believer, if I'ma daughter to the king, you
know, working on my heart, Iknew then I needed to do that,
(12:00):
to do that, but that was abeautiful.
When I knew that I needed myown counseling, that opened up
so much for me.
The Lord really began toaddress the issues of my heart
and he began to define me.
I didn't know, you know who Iwas.
(12:20):
I was someone who was trying tofit the molds that everyone
wanted me to fit into, and youknow whether that was
compromising or or, you know,trying to fit in, trying to be a
people.
I was, I was a people pleaser,you know.
And and so you know to answeryour question it was just like
(12:41):
wow, it was a process of my ownjourney of healing.
And and then, um, you know, whenhe gave me the kingdom keys in
2019, he really began to show meyou're going to take what
you've learned, and I began to,um, you know, just take, take my
(13:03):
notes.
And before I knew it, I had aworkbook.
You know with the Lord has.
You know he whispered all ofthat into my heart.
You know how to put thattogether and you know it took me
a few years to get to the pointto publish it, but you know
(13:24):
it's the bride you know to lookat, but you know it's the bride,
it you know to look at thecover, that's the bride of
christ ascending, and so we arethe bride of christ.
And so there's a community thatI host as well, that you know
that you're in as well too.
Kingdom brides arise, andthat's a private community that
(13:45):
I have on facebook.
Um, because we are arising ashis bride.
The bride is the church, yes,but the daughters to the king
recognizing that we are his, uh,bride.
Ephesians talks about, you know,for our hearts to be, for him
to find us spotless, right, andRevelation talks about the bride
(14:10):
of Christ, and he brings meback to the heart.
He always brings me back to theheart Because out of the heart,
the mount speaks right, or outof the abundance of the heart,
you know, we, we, we speak, webehave, we think, and so it's
(14:30):
the heart healing and, and it'sthe bride, the preparation of
the bride is is her heart thehealing of the heart is is what
he laid upon me really deeply toaddress the heart issues.
And so you know, in theworkbook I share a little bit
(14:50):
about my own.
You know I give an example ineach of the chapters so they you
know they could identify in oneway or another.
And then I give them heart work, which is questions to dig into
their own heart work and whatthat looks like, and then we
coach and counsel through that.
(15:10):
But it was really birthed frommy own experiences.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
And I think that really is the best method, right
?
Yes, I mean, I would say, andtruly being in tune with Holy
Spirit.
You said that he was giving youkeys along the way.
I was curious.
So, when you started yourjourney in counseling, was that
(15:38):
like a challenging thing for youto pursue?
To start, did somebody mentionto you like a referral, I know
for some people that I'veencountered along the way and I
feel like we're just maybe in atime where more people are
isolating and they're notseeking out help.
(15:59):
I don't know if you agree tothat.
What do you think about that?
Speaker 2 (16:04):
Yes, well, I think that you know, I know, in my
experience, like the things thatI've endured, you know, just to
be able to hear somebody else'sheart and being able to relate
in some way, I found that theywere able to trust me and, you
(16:24):
know, and just receive, whetherI was just praying for them or I
was an ear for them, and then Irecognized I love this, this is
who I feel like, this is.
It comes, it flowed out of methat, you know, that passion
just kind of flows out of me,and so I recognize how he wired
(16:47):
me, how he has been equipping me, you know, to come alongside of
others with the same comfortthat the Lord right, that's
scriptural with the same comfortthat he has given to us, to
come alongside of others and andI think that we endure these
things, you know, whether it's,you know, rape or you know,
(17:08):
that's an experience that I, youknow, or some sort of trauma.
When we're, when we're able toshare these things with other
people, it gives them their, Ibelieve, their, their hearts.
You know their guard goes downand their hearts are open
because you can relate to themin some way.
Yes, yes, and that, yeah.
(17:31):
So I think it just began fromall of that, you know, and it's
kind of it's growing to a pointwhere it's like I want to share
more with other people and youknow, and work with others to
help, help, set them free.
Help help, you know, be avessel that the Lord can use.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
Yes, well, would you, would you say that you're
noticing that more people areisolating rather than reaching
out?
Speaker 2 (18:00):
Yes, yes, I agree with that, and I don't know, you
know, I think, yes, yes, Iagree with that, and I don't
know, you know, I think that'sbeen over a few years, most
definitely.
I've seen that where people arepulling back and but more than
ever, you know, we, we need eachother, we need people in our
(18:20):
lives and those that are thatcan share from a healthy
perspective and, you know, cancelebrate you, and you know
people want to feel seen andheard and valued, and so when we
come from that place of beinggenuine, of wanting to celebrate
them and love them and andcheer them on, you know it's,
(18:45):
it's the fellowship that'smissing and we just you know it
just made me think of this everyother month there's a Bible
study that we do here in TampaBay if anybody hears this and is
local and so it's oncultivating friendships.
So it's on cultivatingfriendships and cults, but but
(19:08):
our number one friendship iswith the lord.
Yes, and so it's when, you know, talking about that, we, you
know they're hungry forfellowship and we can come
together and talk about healthyrelationships and friendships,
but it's always brought back toit's the Lord who's our bestest
friend, right?
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (19:28):
Well, what would you say to somebody who you know
maybe they've been isolating fora while and they're just kind
of feeling that nudge that theyneed to get out and either, you
know, join in some community or,you know, maybe they're not
even local to you.
If they are, please reach outto Deb, and even online I mean,
deb's got her Facebook group youcan always join as well.
(19:49):
Um, but I do believe that we'vetalked about this before he's
really calling us to get inperson more, wouldn't you say.
Do you say to somebody who'shasn't you know, they've kind of
been more in hiding for alittle while, what would you say
to them to kind of get outthere and start connecting again
?
Speaker 2 (20:10):
Oh, I would say to her that she needs to to step
out, because Jesus, that God haswithin her, because she's lived
through experiences that hewants to to use, to use her for
(20:36):
that there's power in her voice,that she is seen, and so I
would encourage her to movethrough the resistance you talk
about that a lot and thatresistance of stepping out of
the comfort zones and step intothe fulfillment of what God has.
And I would just encourage themto do so, because people need
(21:00):
what they have within them,their gifts, the abilities,
their talents that God hasplaced in them is needed.
The message that God haspackaged within them needs to go
forth.
We talk about your you know ourroar, roar, yes, Right, and, and
so it's encouraging them thatthat, yes, they are needed and
(21:25):
they are seen and valued.
It's time for them to step out.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
Can I add too like a lot of times I've shared this
with people before, like whatyou maybe need is what he's
calling you to release and setthe table for for others?
Yes, because you're not alwaysgoing to get what you need from
others, no, and you that verything that you need.
If you put it out there, youmight find that there's more
(21:54):
people that need what you need,and it becomes a community.
Yes, wouldn't you say?
Speaker 2 (22:00):
yes, yes, yeah, yeah, it's like the one who's afraid
to ask a question, um for it tobe, you know, but, but, but, but
, that question being asked, youknow, stirs up.
You know the others who werelike I was thinking that too,
and it's, it's, it's just likeit's, it's moving, yes, it's
(22:21):
moving past um, and I think thatgoes with just recognizing or
wanting to recognize that um, um, they're again, their value in
in the kingdom identity of whothey are, um, you know, to
recognize their um.
I go back to the value, youknow that, just of knowing who
(22:46):
they are in christ and steppingout because, um, people need
what they um have within themand, before you know it, what,
yes, what their need is, theywill see that there's a
community out there that'shungry for the same thing.
Yeah, absolutely, and and thelord has taught me this, you
know, and I think you know, Iknow that you and I have talked
(23:09):
about this before, but he'scultivating a brave heart.
You know, stepping out of thatcomfort zone is.
It's scary, you know, becauseit's not familiar.
We like to stay in the familiar.
Even though it's uncomfortable,it's still comfortable in the
sense that it's what we know.
(23:30):
But God is out there, he'scalling us to step out of the
boat, right, yes, and do it,even afraid, because they're not
alone.
God is literally surroundingthem, within them.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
Yeah, you know, yeah, within them.
Well, and I think it's amazingtoo.
Yeah, I don't know.
I've been thinking about this alot lately and you know, if you
look at the disciples and mostof the people in the Bible, like
they weren't perfectly puttogether and he like qualifies
(24:08):
us C-A-L-L-ifies us as we goalong, right, if you're just
sitting on the bench likenothing's happening, yes, right,
you got to get in the game andlike take a swing and you're
probably going to miss a lot.
I mean, my boys played baseballand they didn't just naturally
(24:35):
know how to play.
Yeah, right, you have topractice.
And there's a lot of things Idon't know about you.
Like, I was gonna ask, likewhat would you say for you?
Is maybe one of the moreuncomfortable things that he
like has you to do, like maybein this season or what you feel
is coming?
Speaker 2 (24:51):
well it's.
It's definitely stepping out ondifferent platforms.
You know, know and and andsharing, and you know speaking
and talking, and so it's justthe very thing that you know or
or or.
You know being in front of agroup and you know presenting,
you know a teaching or, and Iknow he's called.
(25:14):
You know, there's a lot withinmy heart that I know he's placed
there and I'm excited.
But I have to get, and I knowthis is true for me.
I have to get out of my own way, or get out of God's way,
because I'm in, I'm in his wayand I'm in my own way.
I'm sabotaging when,self-sabotaging, when, when I'm
(25:36):
not being obedient, or when Iput it on the back burner and
I've done that before and hebrings it right back.
You know it's time.
He'll tell me, I feel it, Iknow it.
When he'll say Okay, it is timefor you to show up.
Because, I can sit back for alittle bit.
You know longer than you know Ishould and and I know that, I
(26:00):
know when it's time to step out,and even afraid, you know, and
giving myself this is grace.
Giving myself permission to notalways get it, you know right,
and it's that it's practicinglike you said.
You know right, and it's thatit's practicing like you said
you know, um, practicing, he'sequipping us, he's teaching us,
(26:24):
but but giving myself permissionto maybe get it wrong or not,
like I had it all togetherbecause I'm learning, giving
myself permission to learn,that's the bottom line that's so
good, giving myself permissionto learn.
And in the learning it won'talways look, you know, polished
(26:44):
Right, but you'll never get tothat place unless you begin
Right.
You know, like you said, withthe baseball it's the swinging
and the missing, and so it'sgrowing in the learning.
I mean, that's a message Ialways want to tell my kids,
because it's like give yourselfpermission to grow, to learn.
Always be teachable, and thatis something you know, lord.
(27:07):
I always want to be teachable.
May I never be comfortableSidelines.
You know we can always take abreak and rest, but I recognize
his voice when he says I needyou now to show up.
Yeah, we've got work to do.
Speaker 1 (27:24):
I love to be able to like sometimes be able to cheer
you on, to be like, come on, dadgo.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
I know and you do.
That's so great because you aresuch an encourager and a you
champion others on your, yourvoice is so important and the
words that he speaks through.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
I just love that you've been able to encapsulate
this, and not only a workbook,but you know, the I am
statements, the journaling, whatis coming up with those
beautiful book babies?
Speaker 2 (28:00):
What's coming up how are you integrating them?
Yeah, so on Monday, august 4th,I'm going to start 100 days of
sharing a recording onto theFacebook community page Kingdom
Brides Arise.
That's a private community forladies who would like to be a
(28:23):
part of that, but I'm going toput that there.
I'm going to put that ontoYouTube, the recordings, and
TikTok is my thought as well.
So my heart is to do 100 daysof the I am statements.
Take, taking a statement a day,declaring it and praying into
(28:45):
that, over them, and so that'swhat I'm going to do with the
journal.
And then, as far as theworkbook goes, those that are
just you, ready to go.
You know what I need some hearthealing.
You know, um, and are ready tojust step into a journey of, of
(29:06):
processing those things andmoving past.
You know, um, there's grace andall of that, and forgiveness
and all of that, and and um,there's, there's a journey, um,
that I would love to take withothers, you know, to team up and
partner with them to help themwalk through some things that
God wants to heal.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
Yes.
I would love to have you had.
Um, I know it's a new release,have you?
Have you had a chance to walkthrough this with anybody
recently?
Speaker 2 (29:37):
Yes, so the workbook, yes, yes, so, and and I have
been doing that um for a fewyears where I would send the PDF
chapter to someone and we wouldwork on it that way, um, but
now that it's in a workbookformat, um, yes, just being able
(29:57):
to give them a workbook and,and you know, for them to get
the workbook and just go throughit and we take a chapter at a
time and dive into that.
And there's hard work andquestions to answer and you know
we talk about this thing.
So, yes, you know, but you knowwe'd love to be able to, to
help to come alongside of others.
You know, if love to be able toum to to help to come alongside
(30:19):
of others, you know, if this issomething that they hear and
they feel led, I'd be happy tochat.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
Yeah.
Well, I just want to highlighttoo.
Um, it started with you sendinga PDF.
Yes, you didn't have the bookfirst.
You didn't wait to release ituntil the book was ready.
Speaker 2 (30:43):
Yes, that is such a good point.
Yeah, so that was 2019 is whenhe was dropping all of this, the
chapters, into my heart and in20, I think it was when,
actually, when we had thelockdown.
I think it was when, actually,when we have a lockdown where a
lot of it was on Zoom.
So he opened that up for me.
(31:04):
Where I was work, I was sendingthe clients PDFs of every
chapter.
We would jump on a Zoom calland, yeah, so he was.
I recognized that he wasbirthing it.
Yes and yeah, and then theworkbook was, you know, about a
year or two in the works.
(31:24):
So, yes, you work with what wehave Right, and then God will
grow it?
Speaker 1 (31:30):
Yeah, absolutely, and I think you know what he's
highlighted to me quite a bitover the years is like what's in
your hands?
Speaker 2 (31:44):
Yes, yes, right, yes.
To me, quite a bit over theyears, is like what's in your
hands?
Yes, yes, right, yes, kristen,because because we wait, we can
wait, and well, I'm not readyenough where I don't know enough
, where it's not perfect enough,right and I'm not enough.
Speaker 1 (31:53):
I don't have enough.
All the opposite, I am's ofwhat you're releasing, right,
and those are the lies.
Yes, I don't, the I don'ts.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
I don'ts.
Those are the lies right, thoseare exactly the lies and they
prevent us to move ahead andforward.
And because we can always comeup with some sort or the enemy
will whisper that some sort ofexcuse not to.
And you know we justify oh,it's not prepared enough for you
(32:24):
know, yes and so we?
Speaker 1 (32:26):
what is the strongest ?
I mean, I feel like everybodyencounters this.
I mean, at least and maybe it'sjust me, but I'm, I feel like
the enemy is trying to squawk atme every day Like shut up.
Um, maybe it's just me, I don'tknow, but what?
What for you has been?
Maybe one of those I don't havethat has tried the hardest to
(32:49):
keep you stopped in your tracks?
Speaker 2 (32:52):
Oh, that I, that I I don't have, he'll, he'll, he'll
play this game with me.
That I don't have, he'll playthis game with me.
That I don't have enough to,you know, to share or to give to
others.
Or you know who am I, or youknow, and I know it's the lie,
and so that's where it's justlike, no, I see you, I see you
(33:16):
saying, I hear you and I rebukeyou in Jesus name because that's
not who I am.
And again it's going back.
And this is, I think that that'sthe renewing of our mindset,
and that's a daily walk, or amoment by moment walk, actually,
because you know we, of course,you know these things come at
us, these darts.
You know that he tries to, youknow, to hurt us with and get us
(33:40):
to think differently and actdifferently and be different,
and it's just like wait a minute, I see you.
No, that's not who I am.
Even though I might feel weakin a place, I think it's
important to go.
No, no, greater is the Lord wholives within me than the enemy
of this world.
So you know he's, if he's in myheart, he is so close to me
(34:05):
that I, you know, lord, I wantto feel the very breath of you.
I want to feel your heartbeat.
It's, you know, so it's lookingI often refer to.
I read a book one time that wastalking about the interior life
and that really stuck out to mebecause it's like he is all
within our hearts andrecognizing that we are, we are
(34:30):
our strength, our peace, our joy, a love that we, you know, have
for people.
It's just Lord, you know, beingfilled with his spirit so that
we can then pour out, yes.
Speaker 1 (34:45):
From the overflow.
Yes, yes, yeah, and I just lovethat you know over time and I
want to, maybe you could speakto somebody who just really
feels kind of stuck with some ofthose lies, like they literally
feel, like they're.
I don't know, I'm just seeingsomebody, maybe in quicksand,
(35:05):
like what would you say to them?
Speaker 2 (35:09):
Well, I would just say to them that that's you know
, anything that that is ugly ornegative or hurtful in any way.
Like we said, you're not in.
You know those thoughts thatyou're not enough or you know
you're not seeing your way.
Like we said, you're not in.
You know those thoughts thatyou're not enough or you're not,
you're not seeing you're.
You know you're not good enoughor smart enough.
All lies, all lies, all lies,and and it's looking at that lie
(35:31):
and going, no, you know, andreally really making that
declaration no, this is who I amin Christ, this is who I am in
Christ, this is who I am.
And and I would just say to themthat it's um, to recognize the
lie and be and being intentional.
See, then, that goes with theheart work as well, being
(35:54):
intentional.
That is not who you are.
And speaking to that person, torecognize that they are, you
know, with the Lord, that theyare, that they have a purpose
and they have, they are filledwith his spirit, they have
kingdom, kingdom.
The kingdom of God lives withinus.
(36:15):
The kingdom of God lives withinthem.
So, taking care of our mindset,our temples, you know that it
can fulfill.
You know the purpose and theplans that he has, the will that
your heart and this is a prayeryou know to always pray.
(36:47):
May my heart always align withyour heart, Lord.
And so if we pray that prayer,he'll point out where we're not
aligned, If our thinking is notaligned to the word of God, who
speaks about who we are in him.
When we know him more, thenwe're going to know more about
who we are.
Say that again.
(37:09):
When we know yes, when we knowmore of who he is, then we will
know more about who we are.
Then we will know more aboutwho we are because we're created
Genesis 1, 26, we're created inhis likeness, right the image
of God we were created with.
So if we are created in hislikeness, then it's recognizing
(37:39):
the lie and going wait a minute,you know that's not the Lord.
So, therefore, I rebuke that andI replace it with God's truth,
because what does it say?
God's truth sets us free and so, but I would, that's what I
would, share with her.
Don't, don't buy into the lieanymore.
Recognize it, be intentionalabout going.
You know, you know, lord, youtransform my mindset, transform,
(38:03):
shift my thinking.
Align my heart with your heartand let him begin to stir that
up and and and heal what, whatneeds to be healed, and yeah,
that's so good.
Speaker 1 (38:15):
I love, I love the passion behind your voice in all
of this to release.
I was curious if you could giveus a little sneak peek.
Would you be open?
I know you said you shared someexamples in the chapters in
your workbook, but would youmaybe share, maybe a shortened
(38:36):
um, an example that you sharedof of part of your testimony,
and then, um, maybe one of thequestions that's in that chapter
to accompany?
Speaker 2 (38:47):
And let me see here, let me see, I'm putting you on
the spot.
Speaker 1 (38:52):
Yes, let me see.
I love sneak peeks.
Speaker 2 (38:56):
Um, yes, yes, let's see here Chapter one.
So let's see here, um, okay, soin chapter one I talk about the
word crush because the Lord andI say here I was in a season of
(39:19):
confusion and did notunderstand a few things that
were happening around me.
Those who I was the closest towere demonstrating some very
peculiar behaviors, which theywere.
During that time the Lord beganto speak.
The word crush to me, the wordappeared everywhere and I
recognized that was how the Lordwas speaking to.
The word crush to me, the wordappeared everywhere and I
recognized that was how the Lordwas speaking to me.
He was catching my attentionduring a time.
(39:41):
During that time, a friend,without knowing, had given me a
song called new wine.
So that's where that new winesong came to me back then.
And so I I just talked about thecrushing experience that I had,
and the Lord I go on to say theLord was encouraging me to let
(40:01):
go of the old mindsets,behaviors, the attitudes, even
relationships that no longercelebrated the woman of God I
was becoming in this season.
And so I go on to share a fewthings about codependency and
the characteristics of an orphanheart.
(40:22):
So an orphan heart, if we'vebeen adopted into the kingdom of
God.
We write the word of God sayswe get to call him Abba, we are
adopted into the kingdom, and so, but we often live with the
characteristics of an orphanheart, you know, with whether
that's and I go on to explainthat here where they're striving
(40:43):
perfectionism, maybe a sense ofcompetition, seeking approval,
people pleasing, compromising,sing, and so I'm, and so I just
go into all of that and and theheart work would be, um, I talk
about it into, I talk about heretoo, song of songs 215, where
(41:05):
it talks about the little foxesthat spoil the vineyard and and
with god, he says in thatchapter that we can, we can
capture those foxes together.
Well, and I go on to explain alittle bit about that in the
chapter and the heart work, thequestion is, what do you think
(41:25):
catch the little foxes refers toin your heart?
So what are the little foxesthat spoil the vineyard, spoil
your heart?
What does that look like?
And so you know that could be.
You know several things basedon to their experiences, the
pain, traumas that they'veendured.
(41:46):
So we go over that together.
About the little foxes, youknow what is that pain and what
does that look like Shame, guilt, condemnation, rejection is
huge and so yeah, so good, deb.
Speaker 1 (42:03):
Yeah, you got to get on this I'm telling you.
So that's the workbook.
Would you be open to sharingday one of your journal
devotional with us?
Speaker 2 (42:17):
yes, yes, yes, the day one practice for next week.
Yes, okay.
So journal, so day one istalking about, um, okay.
It says here uh, I am a childof the Most High God, chosen and
dearly loved, and that's 1Peter 2.9.
(42:40):
That's the verse that talksabout that we're chosen, that
we're a royal priesthood, right,and so, recognizing that I am
is in caps I am a child of themost high God, chosen and dearly
loved.
So, recognizing that you arechosen, you've been set apart,
(43:01):
you are loved beyond measure,you belong to God.
He's called you out of darknessand brought you into his
wonderful light, his wonderfullight.
So, really taking that verseand the heart activation is
inviting him into the momentsthat he brings to your attention
(43:22):
.
So in the journaling it's likeyou know where, where, and I
will encourage them to, you know, express journal to the Lord
where you don't feel seen orchosen, you know, but the Word
of God says that you are.
He's called you out of darkness, you know you, you're in the
(43:43):
kingdom of God, so, you know,inviting him into that.
What does he want to show you?
What does he want to reveal toyou?
Maybe to let go of?
And so you know and I'm going toshare some prompts with you
know, with those who tune in,you know what does it mean to be
chosen?
What does that look like to you?
(44:03):
Where in your life have youbelieved a lie about your worth
or belonging?
You know what?
What does that look like?
You know what does that looklike?
So in the, so that particularday again just says I am a child
of the Most High God, chosenand dearly loved.
(44:24):
It gives the scripture and aplace to journal, and so I'm
going to take it a little bitfurther when I do the 100 days
and be able to point out a fewthings from a healing
perspective.
It's like bringing some kingdomnuggets, yeah.
Speaker 1 (44:40):
You're bringing more keys beyond what you would
experience in the book, butdefinitely have the book in hand
.
Speaker 2 (44:47):
Yes, yes, just to be able to then take it to the Lord
journal what he brings, what hewants to reveal, you know, so
that there's a healing thattakes place.
Speaker 1 (45:00):
Yeah, and what we were talking about you know
before we came on here.
I was reminded, you know, yearsago when I got saved, I did
some.
You know, I did a particularBible study when I, you know,
first started going to churchwhen I was 25.
And I've just been prompted,like I keep forgetting I should
do this today but to go back andlook at the book to see the
(45:20):
growth that has happened.
And I was just sharing with Deb, like this, this journal slash,
you know, devotional all thedeclarations to be able to
encapsulate and have it in oneplace.
It's almost like a treasurethat you can go back and look at
.
Speaker 2 (45:35):
Yes, Right, yes, that's so good.
And it's amazing when you do goback and you reread some of
your entries and journals andwhere you were a year ago, five
years ago and three years, it'sjust like wow, you can see what
God has done and and that's thereally cool thing- yeah, and I
(45:58):
think he really I mean, I'm notalways the best journaler I am
using like an electric a lot oftimes.
Speaker 1 (46:04):
I'm using like an electronic app called journey,
which is really great.
I keep track of like the littlemoments each day to be able to
look back on, and I think hereally loves that we take notice
of these things, that we areremembering, that we're being
reminded of just those littlemoments and the ways that he
talks to us, right, yes, yes,because he's always talking to
(46:27):
us.
Speaker 2 (46:28):
Yes, we just did an event the other day, a gathering
about hearing the voice of God,so tuning our ears into him and
listening and and being still,and you know that's well.
What I believe is cultivatingintimacy with him.
You know, going to the secretplace with him and bringing our
(46:49):
Bibles or journals, and thenthat you know that doesn't mean
you know to be still.
You know you can be about yourday, but your heart is always
postured.
Yes, right In the sense ofposition to posture to his heart
, and you can be in the midst ofyour day, but yet you're being
(47:10):
still and recognizing.
You know him and journal, youknow lunch, and you know, or you
know, however you, however, ourfriends here, seek the Lord.
Those journal entries, however,too, like you just said,
whether it's on the computer orjournaling, I think is so
empowering because it's ourtestimony.
(47:32):
Yes, it is Really yeah and just, and it's our testimony.
Yes, it is yeah and just, andit's our healing.
It's the journey, and and whatwe learn is what we share with
other people.
Speaker 1 (47:43):
It's not it's never.
Speaker 2 (47:44):
I learned this years ago and when I was going through
my own healing.
It's not about us, it's notabout me, it's not.
It's about what we learn andthen helping the others along me
.
Speaker 1 (47:56):
It's not.
It's about what we learn.
Yes, and then helping theothers along.
Speaker 2 (47:59):
Right, because we're not called to keep it to ourself
.
No right, oh, it's what god hasdone, so why not give him the
glory?
And and that's if I can justshare this too that's where it's
like that, that whatever,because shame can be attached to
, to that and that's the healingthat God wants to bring,
because you know what God isdoing is amazing and the healing
(48:21):
that's taken place.
So there's no shame in any ofwhat we've endured.
Somebody had told me this yearsago, and I've always.
It was a key that helped reallyunlock me and it was said to me
.
A counselor said said to me thatGod trusts you with what you've
walked through.
(48:42):
And that was powerful because alot of it was you know my own
behaviors and and ugly, and youknow my part in things too.
You know it's not just one sidedalways, and so there's, you
know there's stories, differentstories, and it's just like god
trust me with what I walkedthrough, even though it was, you
know, you know ugly, it's like,you know, I had to look at that
(49:05):
and go, wow, you know, it took,it took shame away, it helped
heal, um and in in the sensethat wow you, you know, okay,
I'm going to use this, and thenI do.
When I'm, you know, talking withothers and being able to share
with others when God wants me toand it comes up, it's like,
(49:27):
okay, I'll share, lord, becauseit will help release perhaps
somebody else, and you knowyou're coming alongside of them
with an understanding of youknow, I walked through.
We can't share what we don'texperience Right In one way or
another.
We can kind of come to you knowand help others along, yeah, so
(49:52):
yeah, God wants to remove theveil of you know, shame and all
of that that would want toquench or squash who we are, the
spirit of God who lives withinus and cause us to shrink back.
Speaker 1 (50:06):
And I'm just saying, oh, no, we, we keep you know in
in over the years, like we havebeen able to encourage each
other and have, like I justreally believe and as you're
talking, you know to have people.
I say it all the time you needpeople in your corner, like,
find somebody that you resonatewith.
(50:28):
You know, like you're hearingDeb's voice today, reach out to
her.
Hearing Deb's voice today,reach out to her.
Um, she has such a pure heartand loves to listen, loves to
share the things that the Lordhas brought her through and the
ways that he's brought her tobreak through, to share with you
so that you can getbreakthrough as well.
Um, it's pretty cool Cause, asI'm listening here, there's like
(50:50):
a hawk like right out, sothat's pretty significant.
Anyways, deb, would you be open?
I think I don't know if youremember the last time we were
on, but you know I really dothis for the one, and if you, I
know you spoke a word oversomebody earlier, but is there
anything else that you'd want tospeak over?
(51:11):
Most likely a woman that'slistening in today, and then
would you pray us out today?
Speaker 2 (51:16):
Yes, yes, yeah.
So I'm praying that.
I said this to somebodyyesterday and I feel led to
share it today it's time to cometo the front, even in the back.
Come to the front, even in theback.
(51:39):
So whoever feels like they'rein the back of the line and and
you know God sees you and he'scalling you forth, I don't know,
I just feel like that's a wordthat you know.
When I shared it yesterday,that person felt it and I feel
like I felt it today as we'retalking, that it's time to come
forth.
God sees you, god hears you andhe knows your heart and he's
(52:02):
with you and literally, he hasyour hand.
Whoever this could be for, hehas your hand and he's leading
you to sit at the table with him.
Yeah, you to sit at the tablewith him.
Yeah, you know, one of thethings that also to I just spoke
about this today, this morningis somebody had shared a dream,
if I can share this, somebodyhad shared a dream with me that
(52:23):
they had that, that she saw thatthis is going back a few years
and she saw that I was sittingat a little kids table.
You know, at weddings, like atholidays and holidays, yes,
exactly.
And she said you need to cometo the adult table.
(52:43):
You need to.
You need to sit at God's table,is what she said.
And so I felt that here now,whoever feels, you know like
they're in the back, you knowyou need to come forth and you
need to sit at God's table.
You need to sit with him and he.
There are treasures of hisheart that he wants to share
with you, and so, so, yeah, so Ipray, father, in Jesus name, my
(53:10):
Lord, that, as this word goesout, lord, that you're moving
upon the hearts of yourdaughters, lord, god, that
you're touching them in such away that you're awakening them,
that you're blowing your Ruachbreath, the breath of God is
igniting, lord, the spark withintheir bellies.
Lord, god, to stir them up,lord, to know that they are seen
(53:31):
and heard and valued and soloved by you unconditionally,
lord, that they can come fromshrinking back and come forward,
in Jesus' name, to sit at thetable with you, to see and to
experience you so much deeper,lord, god, because you're
(53:52):
wanting to take your daughtersdeeper, you're wanting to take
them into a deeper knowing ofwho you are, so you can share
who they are with them, lord, sothat you can heal hearts and
set your people free.
So, father, I just thank you somuch for this time.
Lord, I thank you for thosethat tune in Women.
The same thing for them as well.
(54:15):
God sees, god knows, god hears.
And so, father, I thank you.
I thank you for Kristen's heart, lord, god, I thank you that
she's a warrior for you, lord,and she's setting Lord the
captives free, lord, steppingout of the cages and stepping
into all that you have for them,unlocking hearts as well.
So, father, thank you for thistime.
(54:37):
I ask you to bless my sisterbeyond measure and bless those
that are tuning in, lord Again.
Stir their hearts, lord, andget them ready for their next
assignment that you have forthem, with passion and purpose
and Holy Spirit power.
In Jesus name, I pray.
Amen.
Speaker 1 (54:57):
Amen.
Well, Deb, what is the best wayfor people to get in contact
with you?
And I'll be sure to add that tothe show notes as well.
Speaker 2 (55:05):
Okay, well, I'm on Facebook, so I'm there and and
then from there, they're welcometo send me a note, or would
love to invite them into theKingdom Brides Arise community,
which is the reign in royalty.
It's reign in royalty, but Ican send you a link if you'd
(55:28):
like.
Speaker 1 (55:28):
Yeah, we can put it in the show notes for sure, okay
, and then when you search up onFacebook, do you want to just
spell out your name so peoplecan search you up right now?
Speaker 2 (55:38):
Yes, it's Deborah D E B O R A H, then my last name is
Y O E R G.
Perfect.
Speaker 1 (55:48):
Yes, love it.
Do you have any other methodsthat you wanted to share as well
?
Speaker 2 (55:56):
Well, I have a YouTube page and that's under my
name as well.
Okay, and very, very.
You're starting TikTok.
Speaker 1 (56:06):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (56:07):
That's a whole different, the whole thing.
Yeah, I'm kind of like I saidbefore grace in the learning,
you're stepping out, I'mstepping out, I love it.
Speaker 1 (56:14):
So that's said before grace in the learning, you're
stepping out, I'm stepping out,I love it.
Speaker 2 (56:16):
So that's, that's under my name too.
Speaker 1 (56:19):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (56:20):
DebYorg Y-O-E-R-G.
Speaker 1 (56:23):
Perfect.
Well, I am so excited for you.
Definitely connect with Deb ifyou are wanting to walk through
you know the workbook with herin a coaching relationship and
then also be sure to tune in toher lives.
I'll be sure to, like I said,add the link to the Facebook
group.
(56:43):
And then, Deb, thank you forbeing on again and thank you for
being a brave voice who'ssetting many free as well.
So I will be back with anotherepisode next week.
Speaker 2 (56:53):
Thanks, Deb, Thank you so much, my friend.
Bye-bye.
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