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SPEAKER_01 (00:16):
Welcome to the Hope
Unlock Podcast.
I'm your host, Kristen Kurtz,and I'm also the founder of New
Wings Coaching.
I help and empower wild-heartedand adventurous women of faith
feeling caged and stuck, unlocktheir true purpose and
potential, break free fromlimitations, and thrive with
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Get ready to dive in as weuncover empowering keys and
insights in this episode.
So tune in and let's unlock hopetogether.
Welcome to the Hope Unlockedpodcast.
I'm Kristen Kurtz, your host.
I pray this episode is like aholy IV of hope for your soul.
Please help me welcome AlyssaRon to the show.
I am so excited to have her ontoday.
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I just love everything she isdoing.
We've had a moment to justconnect a little bit more before
we um got started today.
And I know that she is going tohave so much fire to bring to
the listeners.
So, Alyssa, before we get intoum your story and what you'd
like to share today, could youjust tell us a little bit about
yourself?
SPEAKER_00 (01:19):
I would love to.
First of all, thank you forhaving me.
Um, I'm excited just to see whatGod does with this conversation.
And um, I feel like it's alreadyjust in our pre-conversation
been amazing.
Yes.
SPEAKER_02 (01:33):
I agree.
SPEAKER_00 (01:34):
Yes.
So I am from Michigan and I livehere with my husband of almost
14 years and our three youngboys.
They're all eight and underright now.
And I always just like to jokethat you know, they're a whole
lot of fun.
Um house can be a little chaoticand inky.
SPEAKER_02 (01:55):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (01:56):
And um, I'm a little
nervous about that because they
are still so little.
I'm like, what is going tohappen when they're teenagers?
I don't know.
SPEAKER_01 (02:03):
Well, I could tell
you, but we won't go there.
SPEAKER_00 (02:07):
Oh, I love it.
Yeah.
So um, you know, it it'sawesome.
Life is just amazing with them.
They keep everything.
Um, they give me a whole lot ofstories to share.
So that is good.
Um, but I am the host of theRevival Mom podcast.
And uh I speak as well and docoaching and um something that I
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never pictured myself doing uhuntil you know a couple of years
ago when God was like, Hey,Alyssa, revival starts in the
home.
And um, I was just like, Oh,that sounds really awesome,
Lord.
You know, I'll pray into that.
And so it started there and it'sbeen a wild ride ever since.
SPEAKER_01 (02:52):
Yes.
I love that you said wild ride.
I often say wild adventure, wildride.
SPEAKER_00 (02:57):
Yes.
SPEAKER_01 (02:58):
And you you heard
you heard the word and then you
ran with it.
So prior to hearing that word,what like what were you doing?
What were you up to?
SPEAKER_00 (03:08):
Oh, I love that.
Um, such a good question.
So for me, I what was I up to?
Um, I had just I had been athome with my boys, and for many
years I had been anentrepreneur.
And at this specific time, I hadfound myself spinning my wheels
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and just striving um to makesomething work while I, you
know, had these young boys athome and feeling just really
frustrated and everything else.
And so I just kind of I had tolet it let things go.
I was like, you know what, I'mnot doing anything um besides
staying with my boys and takingcare of the house and taking
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care of them.
Um and you know, I feel likesometimes in our surrender, that
is when we allow God to show upbecause I had been just asking
him one, you know, praying intoLord, what is it that you want
me to do?
Like I want to be happy andcontent with being at home with
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my boys and taking care of thehouse.
But I just feel like there'ssomething within me, Lord, it
just keeps stirring and it won'tgo away.
And, you know, almost begginghim, you know, to like take away
this desire um to do somethingalong with, you know, being a
mom and taking care of my kids.
And um and so right at thattime, you know, he just really
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showed up to me.
And and I'll be honest, I didn'treally know what revival was or
hear the word revival, or even,you know, like see those things
until maybe a couple weeksbefore he spoke that word to me.
And so I truly believe it wasjust in that like surrendering
and just letting him start tomove.
SPEAKER_01 (04:56):
Yes.
Well, I love like just kind ofthe capture of, you know, from
striving to surrender.
Um, you know, I've I've had evenmyself kind of walking through
that process many years ago oflike I called it the unwinding
from grinding experience.
And it was so challenging.
Did you find that there was likea challenge to release and let
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go and and surrender?
SPEAKER_00 (05:21):
100%.
Um, so the surrendering didn'treally, I guess I should have
said it differently.
So I surrendered the idea ofhaving something else or doing
some sort of business orwhatever it was.
But when God called me intoAlyssa, like equip moms to see
revival in their homes, I stillhad a habit of striving.
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Okay.
That is just how I had, youknow, grown up, been programmed.
You know, we we live in aculture where it's work harder,
work harder, do more, do more,so you can get more and have
more and all these things.
And it's um you can't, you won'tsee if you want something, you
have to work for it.
So it was always back on me.
And so even throughout the lasttwo years, uh, God took all of
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last year to get me into a spaceof not striving, just um obeying
him, resting in him, andwatching what he does, what he
does with it.
And that was so hard because itfelt like every other week, you
know, I was like, Oh, but Ishould be doing more.
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I have to be doing more.
Like, you know, yeah, great.
You know, you called me to dothis podcast, and you called me
like that.
And I remember him clearly, Ibelieve it was even the
beginning of this year.
I made this list of all thethings I'm going to do, right?
Like I should have this eventand I should do this summit, and
I should this, this, and that,and the other thing.
Yeah.
He said, Alyssa, what did I askyou to do?
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And I was like, Well, Lord, youasked me to, you know, start the
podcast, but that was last year.
And he's like, uh-huh.
So uh would you just focus onthat for me, please?
Yes.
And I'm like, Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (07:08):
Wow.
So you had like the list ofshoulds.
SPEAKER_00 (07:11):
Yes.
SPEAKER_01 (07:12):
Yes.
And then he took you back to theone thing that was from the
previous year.
Was there um I don't, I don't,I'm using S words, but like, was
there a stall on it?
Like, was there a reason thatyou waited to start it until um
the time that you did?
SPEAKER_00 (07:31):
Um, so what's
interesting is I got the word to
start the podcast.
Um, what was last year, 2024?
So December 2023.
And I pushed it off for about amonth and a half until my
husband randomly said to me oneday, we were in a conversation
about something completelydifferent.
And he goes, Alyssa, you knowwhat you should do?
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You should start a podcast.
And I was like, All right, Lord,I hear you.
I'm gonna do it.
And um, so from that point, Iwas like, okay, I'm gonna get
this started.
And I I started fast.
Like I started to bookinterviews, like get everything
set up within that month.
And then it felt like our familywas sick for about three months
and it completely stalled.
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I could not move forward onanything, could not do any of
it, and until June of 2024.
Um, but it wasn't a it felt likeit wasn't a stall on my end, you
know, but it was God's perfecttiming.
And I think because I was stillin that strive mode, he to kind
of stall me out, you know, like,hey, let's uh let's just wow.
SPEAKER_01 (08:44):
And I mean, even
before that, like for you and
and for me as well, like priorto starting this, there was um
just a lot of warfare overgetting this thing out the door.
Yeah.
Um, because what what you carryis so powerful.
And I would love, you know, aswe kind of move into the here
and now of what you're doing,um, you had this word, you
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walked into it.
Um, what does it look like foryou to like have like a
grace-based approach now intoreleasing what you're called to
release to the world?
SPEAKER_00 (09:20):
Such an such an
interesting question.
Um, this grace to it.
Uh there has been a lot of gosh,just sitting in obedience and
doing it kind of almost kickingand screaming.
So I don't know if that can bean obedience.
SPEAKER_01 (09:41):
I think it actually
is.
I mean, look at how many in theBible, like Gideon and right?
I mean, how many more?
It could go on and on, right?
SPEAKER_00 (09:50):
Yeah.
And so there has been, and evenrecently, you know, he he
continues to show me new thingsthat get to come along with it.
And things I'm like, Lord, Idon't know about that.
I don't think that, you know, Idon't think I want to do that.
I don't think that I should dothat.
Um, and he just continuallyencourages and uplifts and just
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moves me into this place of withevery step, right?
It's like a trust.
It's okay, Lord, I'm going tohave faith and take this step.
Um but over the time, and itstarted little, and it's and so
it started in with these littlesteps, and then it has gotten
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into these bigger steps.
But he is so faithful that helike builds trust with us
almost.
You know, it's like he knowsthat okay, if I ask her to do
this really huge thing rightnow, you know, she may not feel
like you know, she can, but ifwe start with these small steps
and then they grow, he's able tobuild build trust with us.
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And I think he knows that ourhuman mind sometimes.
I'd love to say that, yeah, wejust jump in and we're like,
okay, Lord, let's do this.
Um, but I think he knows, like,we get to build that trust and
feel comfortable with that.
SPEAKER_01 (11:14):
Yes.
Yeah.
So, like, for somebody who'slistening, like the tangible of
like for you sitting and um, youknow, leaning in with him, like,
what does that look like for youto hear his voice?
Um, I know some people are like,well, I don't hear his voice.
I don't hear like next steps.
I don't, what is she talkingabout?
SPEAKER_00 (11:35):
Yeah, I I have I was
that way before in my walk where
I remember just asking, Iremember just asking, asking
God, like, Lord, why don't Ihear you like so many others do?
What they they like get what youwant them to do with their day.
Like, how do they hear that?
You know, it it did not make anysense to me.
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Um but what I've found is thathis sheep hear his voice.
He says that we hear his voice,that he is always talking to us.
And to to step into that trustand to step into that knowing,
like he is talking to me.
Um, so how can I how can I hearhim?
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And it's learning how do youhear him?
It's recognizing all the littlethings that feel like a
coincidence that aren't acoincidence.
And when we can lean into that,and you know, for me, when I
hear him, it's not like anaudible voice, which I think can
be hard, you know, because we'retalking about like you're
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hearing him though, so it shouldbe audible.
Um, but for me, what I havefound is sometimes it can be
like I can kind of see an imageor something like in my in my
mind uh type of thing.
And then sometimes it just kindof sounds like it sounds like my
voice, but just a little bitdifferent, like in my head.
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Um, it's like a thought thatcomes.
And but it's a little bitdifferent, you know.
It's it's like I wouldn't havethought of that, I wouldn't have
said that, um type of thing.
And then it's just taking thestep with it.
Um, there was one time I was atuh the grocery store and it was
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right at the beginning when Ireally when God was like, okay,
listen, you get to be more boldwith your faith.
And he's like, I want you totell this girl that was a
cashier, tell her that Jesusloves her.
Um and that he has, you know, Ihave great plans for her life.
And so I'm in a conversationwith her, talking to her.
So it wouldn't have been reallyweird for me to add that in, but
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that in my own head, and wefinish the conversation.
I finished checking out and Iwalk out the door.
And as soon as I get to theparking lot, I'm just like,
Lord, forgive me, forgive me.
I knew, like, I know that youasked me to do that.
Like, give me another chance.
And so the next week I went backto the same, to the same store,
and it's a you know, biggerstore.
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So there's like 15 differentaisles and all the things, um,
like checkout lanes.
And so I'm like, okay, whichone, which checkout lane do you
want me to go to?
And I'm walking, walking,walking, and I just I didn't
hear a voice, but it felt likeokay, this one, you know, it
just like I felt something inme.
So I turned down this thischeckout lane, and there's a
couple people in front of me, soI didn't see the cashier.
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Well, don't you know?
I get up to the cashier, andit's the same girl from the week
before.
And um, so of course, that timeI, you know, I said, I just I
was supposed to tell you thiswhen I saw you last week.
Um, you know, Jesus loves you,and she was so grateful.
But what he showed me from thatis that we, if we are going to
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learn his voice when we hearthose thoughts, even if we're
like, wait, was that me or wasthat take the step because
here's what I know about God isthat if you take the step and it
wasn't, you know, it wasn't him.
If you're loving someone, ifyou're showing them love, if
you're um moving towardssomething that feels like that
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God-sized dream, then he he'sgoing to like show you, yes,
that was me.
Or if it wasn't, he's going topivot you.
He's going to be like, nope, goback this way.
I actually didn't want you to dothat specific thing right now,
type of thing.
And so it's just taking thosesteps so you can start to learn.
Like, oh, yes, that was hisvoice.
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And I know that because of thefruit that came out of it.
SPEAKER_01 (15:29):
Amen.
So good.
I I know that you just blessedso many people who heard you
share, just even, you know,especially the story of the
woman that you're to encourage,there's there's that marker of
like, are you encouragingsomebody?
Are you showing like love, joy,you know, the fruits of the
spirit?
Like, I like to call it servefruit.
Like, if you're serving fruit topeople, that is amazing.
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And there's never gonna be um anissue with that, right?
How many people in this worldneed like encouragement in this
day and age?
What would you say?
SPEAKER_00 (16:03):
Oh my god, everyone,
everyone needs encouragement.
Every single person, even theperson that you're like, oh no,
she's so confident, she's got itall together, she doesn't need
encouragement.
Yes, she does.
SPEAKER_01 (16:15):
Exactly.
And like for you, um, I knowyou're a huge encourager and you
want to see people, you know,have like breakthrough and all
the things, right?
I don't know about you, butsometimes I think that those of
us who are out there pouring outand are the encouragers actually
sometimes need moreencouragement.
SPEAKER_00 (16:35):
Yes, I yes, I agree
with that 100%.
Um, I have a friend who she isalways like it feels like she's
always on, right?
She's always on, she's alwaysexcited, she's always
encouraging people, all thethings.
And being close to her, youknow, I can hear sometimes the
behind the scenes of it of like,oh my gosh, I woke up this
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morning and I just wanted tothrow in the towel.
I wanted to quit.
Like I feel like, you know, theworld is crumbling and and but
yet she still can go out andencourage others.
And and um, and so it's it isit's so important it just to
encourage everyone because wejust really never, you never
know.
You never know, you know, howthe if the enemy is attacking
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them in one specific way, ifthere's something crazy going on
in their family, if they'rereally just feeling defeated or
self-condemning.
Like we just never, never know.
So yeah, absolutely.
SPEAKER_01 (17:30):
Well, how how do you
get um poured into the most?
Like what is your what does yourday look like so that you're
staying filled up, so that youcan, you know, get into the
overflow with others.
SPEAKER_00 (17:42):
It is definitely
being with being with the Lord,
and that can look differentevery every day, every week.
Um, I remember I I really loveto exercise, and God talks to me
a lot while I'm exercising atthe gym, even with music on and
everything else.
Like he'll just drop littlenuggets into my into my head.
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Yeah.
And uh last year I hurt myshoulder and I was unable, I
hurt my shoulder, then I hurt myback.
So for eight out of the 12months, I was unable to exercise
and lift and do all the thingsthat I normally do.
And so I started going on walks,and it was the most amazing time
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because I would put worshipmusic in and God would just get,
you know, like give medownloads, give me things to
pray.
Like I would pray the entirewalk.
It was so beautiful.
Um, and I kind of miss that.
I I I get to maybe go for a walksoon.
Um, but you know, it changes andrecently um it's just been okay,
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get in, get in the word, um,spend some time in worship and
just kind of ask him, you know,what do you want me to do, Lord?
What do you want me to do?
Just even this morning, lastnight, really, I was um awake
and God just said, Alyssa, likethis is right now is one of
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those moments where you will youwill see victory from your
worship.
And I thought that he wastelling me, Kristen, to be
completely honest, at first Iwas like, Do you want me to like
cancel everything for the dayand just worship?
And I was kind of ponderingthat.
And then he was like, No,Alyssa, he said, um, because I
have a uh before this call, Ihad a meetup that I called them
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with some of the womensurrounding me.
And he was like, No, they arecurrently facing battles that's
on that will only be overcome byworship, and so they get to be
led out on the battlefield ofworship where they are now going
to see breakthrough because ofit.
And um, that so I spent mymorning in worship.
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Like, I uh didn't cancel this,obviously.
I didn't cancel the meetup, butthe chores, everything else,
like I just I just spent mymorning in worship with my
three-year-old right next to mesinging, you know, he's playing
with the dog, all the things.
And so um, it really can justlook different.
And I I try not to have a what'sthe word I'm looking for?
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Like a strict structuresurrounding it.
SPEAKER_01 (20:18):
Yeah.
I love that.
And it, you know, just remindsme of like Jehoshaphat's army
too.
Like they they went out withtheir their band, you know.
I just imagine like the bandgoing out in front of um, you
know, the warriors to overcomeand win the battle, right?
SPEAKER_02 (20:34):
Yes.
SPEAKER_01 (20:36):
And I I love that
you said you don't have, you
know, like a strict regiment,right?
It's you have your tools, butthe tools change every day.
SPEAKER_00 (20:45):
Yes, that's such a
great way to look at it.
It definitely is.
It's it's the tools, and whatone am I using today?
SPEAKER_01 (20:51):
Yeah.
And the fact that you can, youknow, kind of like I'm I'm
similar with you.
Like I have things on my quoteunquote to-do list, um, but
things get moved and they pivot.
And, you know, it's like thatverse, um, Proverbs 3, 5 through
6.
It's like we can make our plans,but the Lord determines our
steps.
So to be willing to be um fluidin your day and pivot and be
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available.
I like to say, like, beavailable for what's coming
down, you know, the track thepath.
Like you might run into somebodythat needs to hear a word from
you, whether it's on the phoneor however it looks.
Um, I think that there's there'sso much to that.
And um, I would love for you tojust share.
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I know you mentioned a lady atthe grocery store, but um, have
you had a recent time where youdid make a pretty significant
pivot in your day?
I know today was one as well, inessence.
But a a a pivot that you didthat kind of was like, really,
Lord?
Like this doesn't really makesense.
SPEAKER_00 (21:54):
Hmm, one that didn't
make sense.
SPEAKER_01 (21:56):
I know on paper,
quote unquote.
SPEAKER_00 (21:59):
Yeah.
Well, this one, um, a coupleweeks ago, I was on a call um in
the morning.
And so I took my boys becausethey were still on summer break.
We went to the park, and I wason this call, and my
three-year-old did somethingcrazy, and so I got up to kind
of help him, and there was thisguy just like walking around the
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school um playground, and he wasby himself, and he was like
taking video of the school, andI was like, This is a little bit
weird, but maybe they're gonnabe like be doing something to
the school.
I don't know, you know, like myantennas were yeah, and um, and
so I get up and I go to thetruck really quick with my boys,
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and I come back and I'm still onthis call, and it's a prayer
call, right?
So it's one like I'm in and Iwant to be praying for people
and all the things, but this guycomes up to me and he goes,
ma'am, he's like, Um, does thislike playground get busy quite
often?
And I was like, Well, not reallyduring you know, summer.
We had this random conversation,and um and he started sharing
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that he was back, he he grew uphere until he was about 12, and
they had moved away when he was12, and he was back with his
father um after like 30, 30, 40years.
And so he was just going toplaces that he used to be as a
boy.
And um, as soon as he said that,like I had seen him swinging on
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the swings.
Like when I walked to my truck,he was swinging on the swings,
right?
And I just felt like the Lord,like he has childlike faith.
And so as I'm talking to him andhe's talking about how this is
the first time being back sincehe was a child, you know, I was
just like, I just have to tellyou this.
The, you know, I feel like theLord just wants you to know like
you have a childlike faith andit's time to bring it back out.
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Yeah, and this conversationended up being 30 minutes long.
He just started crying becausehe he said, When I when we
moved, I felt like my childhoodwas stolen from me because I had
to start working.
Um, where I moved to at 12 yearsold.
And, you know, God's really beentalking to me more about like
just being that child again orlike healing those childhood
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wounds type of thing.
And so I was able to just prayfor him and encourage him and
pray for him and his son.
And the most beautiful thing,like my three boys kind of like
congregated around us.
You know, they weren't playing,but they saw us talking and they
kind of came and congregatedaround us.
SPEAKER_02 (24:28):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (24:28):
And I just looked at
my boys and I said, Boys, is
there anything that you want toshare with him too?
Do you feel like God's tellingyou anything?
And my oldest son goes, No, Idon't think so.
And my middle son, like just outof nowhere, he just stood there
and then all of a sudden, likehe sprinted and just hugged this
man.
Like he knew this man for hisentire life, and just like threw
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his arms around him and justgave him the biggest hug.
And I was just like, Wow, like Idon't know all that you just did
for that man right now.
But thank you that you allowedme to be to be used, you know,
and to turn off this call that Ifelt like I should have been on,
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and to be present with this manwho obviously so needed to hear
from you.
And um it was just so beautiful.
SPEAKER_01 (25:20):
That is incredible.
So that's literally like revivalon the playground.
Like and and the the beauty init is that your son didn't even
have to say anything.
No, no, he did not.
He literally brought love tothis man who I that's incre like
I'm just getting a visual.
I'm always thinking in pictures,so I'm just like, oh my gosh.
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I love that your son did that.
Like the the Lord can can do somany things through our kids,
and it's just those beautifulmoments that they just like
right, you just get so surprisedby what can happen.
So I I bet that this man willnever forget that moment.
SPEAKER_00 (26:01):
Yeah.
Well, I just pray that it's youknow him remembering God and
what he did in that moment.
And because I I don't know thatI'll ever forget it.
I think it was so beautiful,yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (26:12):
And your boys, too,
to be able to see that.
Um, so revival.
You said you, you know, didn'treally experience it or you
didn't really know like thefullness of revival until a
couple of years ago when hecalled you into it.
So I'd love to hear you sharemore a little bit about you know
what you've learned aboutrevival, because it is a word
that we hear a lot these days.
And for the listener who ummaybe similar to you is like,
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well, what is revival?
Um could you just share a littlebit more of like what you have
um seen, experienced, and thenum just maybe share with the
listener what that might mean toyou?
SPEAKER_00 (26:46):
Yeah, when I first
heard revival, I was picturing,
you know, the revivalists withthe tent revivals and thousands
of people coming and and all thethings.
And um, so I was like, Lord,what are you talking about?
Like, I'm not a revivalist.
You're you know, like I'm athome with my boys, like you're
crazy.
And uh and then he was justlike, no, Alyssa, it really
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starts with moms knowing who Iam and who they are in me.
And I sat on that for a littlebit and I fought with him
because I was like, Lord, comeon, like my husband doesn't
believe in you, um, doesn't wantanything to do with you.
My kids like don't really wantanything to do with you.
Like, there has to be someonemuch more qualified.
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There has to be a pastor's wife,there has to be, you know,
someone who's gone to Bibleschool, there has to be someone
who at least has a family whobelieves in you and follows you
to do this.
And he just said, No, Alyssa,like feed my sheep.
Revival starts at home.
And it was a few months laterwhere we were driving through a
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bad part of town, and there wasa man standing on the side of
the road holding a sign.
And my son, who was six yearsold at the time, said, You know,
mom, what does that sign say?
And I said, Well, it says Godbless, buddy.
And he goes, But why is heholding like, why is he standing
on the side of the road?
And so I shared just quickly whyhe might be standing there.
And and this boy, who againwould cover his ears or roll his
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eyes so hard, you could hearthem hitting the back of his
head.
Like anytime I'd go to pray orget my Bible out, he said, Mom,
should we pray for him?
And I was like, Yeah, we should.
So I turned around, I gave himsome snacks, I prayed for him.
And as we're leaving, my sonsaid, Mom, I see why you love
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praying for people.
And it was in that moment whererevival begins at home became so
crystal clear to me.
It became so crystal clearbecause our children are
watching us, they are lookingfor our example.
I'm sure that you've heard, youknow, more is caught than
taught.
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And um, that is so true with ourchildren.
When we just lead authenticallyand they can see us praying over
people, they see us um, youknow, getting in the word and
reading the Bible daily andworshiping and all the things.
When they see that, when theysee us in the hard times and
we're just like, I need to spendsome time with Jesus right now.
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Like, you know, they start tolearn, they start to see, oh,
this is how we handle life, thisis how we live life.
Oh, there's a person who doesn'thave anything and is in need of
food.
So, oh, we go and give them foodand we pray for them.
Like they start to see that.
And I am so reminded because I'masked quite often, like, Alyssa,
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so like what do you do?
What does that look like?
You know, basically, do you havea checklist type of thing?
And yeah, there are, you know,like we were talking about the
tools.
There are things, right?
Like I pray over them at night,we pray on the way to school, we
listen to worship music, all ofthose things.
But what I have found is that ittruly is by example.
What did Jesus do?
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Do.
Jesus said, I do what I see myfather do.
I say what I hear my father.
I say what yeah, I say what Ihear my father say.
And think about the disciples,his 12 disciples, for three
years, they've just followed himaround, right?
They followed him around.
They heard him teach.
They saw him perform themiracles.
They saw the the healing.
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Um the majority of them, some ofthem saw him on the cross and
then raised again three dayslater.
Some of them didn't see himuntil, you know, a couple, like,
I don't know, a couple weekslater.
But the point is they werethere.
They saw it.
So then when Jesus, before hewent and ascended into heaven
and he said, Go and spread thegood news, and my believers will
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be, you know, my believers, theywill confess it, they will be
baptized, and then these thingswill follow them.
Like they knew then what to dobecause they had seen it for
three years.
And it so it's just it gets tobe simple.
It really does just start withyou connecting with God, you
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allowing him to transform you,you surrendering, you know,
surrendering your children,surrendering your husband, um,
surrendering whatever it iselse, you know, where you want
to see revival in your business,in your extended family.
And it's just that surrenderingand saying, Lord, I am yours, I
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will do what you've asked me todo.
Because when he asked me tostart equipping moms to see
revival, I didn't even haverevival in my home.
It wasn't there.
Yeah.
And just a couple months ago, myhusband finally said, I believe
in Jesus.
I believe that He saved, He cameto save me.
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I believe that He died for oursins.
And now we are planning Hisbaptism.
And it has been 14 years, well,that we've been married, but 10
years that I have beendiligently praying for Him, two
years that I have been living itout loud in hopes that the fire
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would be stoked within my homeand that revival would happen.
Wow.
SPEAKER_01 (32:14):
This is so it's so
encouraging for me too, because
you know, my husband is apre-believer, and I used to say
an unbeliever.
So for those of you who have ayou know unequally yoked
marriage, um I encourage you toflip the script and speak life
over it.
Um say pre-believer instead ofunbeliever.
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Um, I I think I picked that up acouple years ago.
It took me a while.
But you know, as you've been,you know, walking this out, I
know I I I know I've run acrossum several women, um, quite a
few, I should say, in unequallyyoked marriages.
And there's different what whatI've seen are different levels
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of acceptance for their spouse,um, the wife, to be able to, you
know, maybe have scripture onthe wall or even have a Bible
sitting out, or um, you know,some some literally have to
hide.
SPEAKER_00 (33:10):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (33:10):
What what is what
was your experience like
throughout the years?
SPEAKER_00 (33:14):
Um the only time my
husband, in 14 years, mind you,
my husband has ever raised hisvoice at me was the day I told
him I was going to church.
Um and so I understand.
I hid my Bible.
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I hid my Bible.
I wouldn't let him see me readit.
When I was, I'd get up early inthe morning, I'd read it, and
then I'd hide it away.
I'd put it away, I'd put it inlike a little basket in the
shelf so that it was out ofsight, out of mind.
Because I wanted to keep thepeace.
I wouldn't share my thoughts.
At one point, my husband evensaid, because I said blessed one
day.
And he said, please don't usethat word.
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He's like, We're fortunate,we're not blessed.
SPEAKER_02 (33:59):
Okay.
SPEAKER_00 (34:00):
And um that was one
moment where the Holy Spirit,
luckily, was like, No, you no,you get to use the word blessed.
And so I kind of pushed it alittle bit, right?
Um, but it was over the years,go like three years after I was
saved again, and I was goingthrough postperm depression
after having my first son, and Iwas just feeling so lost, so
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depressed, like all the things.
And God just said, Alyssa, youare not being who I called you
to be.
And because I, you know, I waslike, Lord, save me from this,
like, Lord, please, I can't dothis anymore.
Like it was just so dark, andand um, and he just said, You're
not being who I called you tobe.
And at that moment, I realizedlike I was hiding my light under
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a bushel, right?
I was hiding that part of me.
And so I started to leave myBible out.
And then God would lead me toshare just certain things.
Um, you know, my husband wasgraduating from chiropractic
school, and I was getting readyto have our second son.
And our second son was only, Ithink, like six weeks old when
my husband graduated.
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And so I was at home with them.
He didn't have a job yet, likewe didn't have our business,
none of these things.
And so you can imagine like thestress level on my husband.
SPEAKER_02 (35:15):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (35:16):
And I had just felt
this amazing peace.
Like I couldn't explain it.
I just knew I'm like, it's goingto be fine.
Like, you know, everything'sfine.
And I shared scripture with myhusband, and I was so scared
because God was like, share thiswith him.
And I was like, Lord, you knowhow he's gonna react.
Like, he doesn't want to hearanything like this.
Yeah.
And I shared it with him, and hewas receptive.
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And he was just like, wow.
He's like, that makes me feelbetter.
And so it has been gradual, ithas been slow over the years
until almost two years ago.
When God was like, All right,it's time, you know, like you
want to see revival.
You gotta like be loud in your,you know, not loud, but like in
your home, like start prayingover your kids, pray over your
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husband, like share thetestimonies with him.
Do you know, like, and of courseit was Holy Spirit led.
If the Holy Spirit told me to bequiet, like I was walking.
Um, but anything else, if it waslike, share this, I shared it
and I didn't hide it anymore.
I started to just this is theway it says train your children
the way they they in the waythat they should go.
And so I was like, I am trainingmy children in the way that they
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should go.
I can't control my husband, butI can control what I do, and um,
I can speak life over mychildren and pray over them and
and all the things.
And so I really just started todo that.
And um yeah, and that's how westarted to see.
And I asked my husband when hesaid he believed in Jesus and
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wanted to be baptized.
I said, Why now?
Like, what is it?
Yeah, and he said, Well, I'vewatched you for the last year
and a half, Alyssa.
I've seen you praying and I'veseen you growing closer to God.
And he said, Nothing bad hascome from it, it has only been
good.
Wow.
And that is how God works.
That is how God works when weallow ourselves to be
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transformed by God, you know, bythe renewing of our mind.
And when we allow ourselves tobe convicted, when we allow
ourselves to be refined, youknow, by the Lord.
Um, these things happen.
And 1 Peter 3:1 actually says,you know, if you have an
unbelieving spouse, or if yourspouse does not believe, like
wives, you can win them overwithout a word by your conduct.
SPEAKER_02 (37:24):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (37:24):
And so it literally
is just by how we are acting,
how we are allowing God to move,how we are being that leader,
that example in our home of I'mstruggling, I'm going to pray,
you know, or oh, this is theproblem for you at work, honey.
I'm gonna pray over you reallyquick, or whatever it is.
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Um it has just been a beautiful,gradual, like Lord just leading,
leading it all.
SPEAKER_01 (37:54):
Yeah, yeah, it's so
beautiful.
You know, I'm thinking of thewoman who, you know, her husband
is is just very resistant toanything she says, and she's
trying to come out of hiding.
And what would you say to her?
Um you know, just kind of facingthat resistance.
What would you say to her?
SPEAKER_00 (38:15):
What I would say is
that you says that if you have
an unbelieving spouse, that theycan be made righteous through
you and your children sanctifiedthrough you.
I would say that continue tostand on God's word.
Um be just learn God's voicemore so you can know when to
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share boldly in your home andwhen to kind of, you know, let
it be at ease.
But continue, just continue inyour walk with him.
Have faith.
Have faith that what God says istrue, have faith that he has
called you right now, maybe tobe that leader, so that your
family can be saved, um, so thatthey can know Jesus, you know,
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our savior.
Uh, continue to stand on thatand and uh speak truth over your
husband, because right now inthe we walk by faith and not by
sight.
So right now, your sight isseeing the resistance of your
husband.
Your sight is seeing that hewants nothing to do with God.
Your sight is seeing that, oh,he's unbelieving, right?
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And Kristen just talked aboutchanging that to pre-believing,
which I absolutely love, by theway.
But we walk by faith and not bysight.
And so your sight is seeingthese things and you get to, you
get to decide to look in adifferent realm, I guess I would
say, not looking at the natural,looking at who God created your
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husband to be.
Because the truth is that Godcreated your husband to be in
relationship with him.
The truth is that God createdyour husband to worship him.
The truth is that God loves yourhusband and loves your children
more than you even do.
He wants his children with him.
He wants them to run to him, torely on him, to allow him to be
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the provider.
He wants all of that for yourfamily even more than you do.
And so your job is one to focuson your relationship, keep your
eyes on Jesus.
You focus on your relationshipwith him, and then you declare
the truth over your husband.
I declared over my husband thathe is a friend of the Lord
because God called Abraham afriend.
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Um, I declared that my husband,like King David, is a man after
God's own heart and that myhusband will do God's will.
I declared, you know, all thesethings over my husband that my
husband um seeks God and findshim, that my husband seeks
wisdom from God and it is givento him.
Like I just started declaringthese things over him in secret,
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like in secret to start, right?
I didn't like decl go up to himand just like say, you are this
and you are right.
No.
It was it was in my secret placein my prayer time.
It was every day.
Like he'd go off to work and itwas, I'm praying over him.
Um, I'm declaring the truth overhim because we can get so
focused in on what we see rightnow.
And I don't see the fruit, Idon't see the change, I don't
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see, and and God is saying, No,no, look at the truth.
What do I say about him?
What do I say about my children?
And you just declare that overhim because God's word does not
return to him void, and life anddeath is in the power of the
tongue.
So as you declare those things,there's I don't know how to
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explain it because I'm not God,but there's shifts that happen,
right?
Absolutely.
There's shifts that happen.
Yes, yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (41:44):
I mean, I've seen it
time and time again.
Like, I I don't even have tolike pray over him.
I'll pray in my home and I'llsee like a shift like in a
countenance without him evenknowing.
SPEAKER_02 (41:56):
Yes.
SPEAKER_01 (41:57):
I don't know if
you've experienced this before
too.
I feel like he'll be like, whatdid you say?
And I won't have even saidsomething.
That's awesome.
Isn't that interesting?
Um, I know we're coming to theend of our time here.
I I I feel like I'll have tohave you on again some time to
share more as you continue onyour journey.
I would love for you to justshare more about um, first of
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all, the podcast, and then alsowhat are you doing with your, I
like to call it a business tree.
Um, like who who are youserving?
I know it's moms, but could youtell us a little bit more about
what you're doing and howsomebody could reach out to you
as well?
SPEAKER_00 (42:34):
I would love to.
Yeah.
So definitely at Revival MomPodcast.
And there is where I equip momsto one go grow closer to God,
um, lead their familiesspiritually, and raise kids who
love Jesus.
And um, so it is just sobeautiful.
You know, like I said before, itstarts with us knowing who God
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is and who we are in him.
And so that is my main missionis to help women to see like
this is who God actually is,this is what he says.
Um, but giving you tools to, youknow, come in and pray over your
home, to pray over your husband,to start to see the shifts, to
make the word applicable to yourlife.
And how do we actually use thisand um to see changes and to
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lead in that way?
And so definitely come come findme on the Revival Mom podcast.
You can find me on uh Facebookand Instagram just under Alyssa
Ron.
Um, and I also, Kristen, wouldlove to just give your
listeners.
I have powerful prayers anddeclarations to ignite revival
um in there in the home that Iwould just love to love to give
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to them.
And so I'll give that link toyou.
SPEAKER_01 (43:45):
Yeah, I'll be sure
to link all of Alyssa's contact
information in the show notes,her podcast link, um, and this
beautiful um freebie that she'sgiving us.
Thank you so much.
It's amazing.
Um, I I would love for you to asI do this, it's it's really for
the one.
Um, if you could just get intomind this one that's listening
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in today.
Do you have anything else thatyou'd like to share?
Any words of encouragement orwisdom that you'd like to speak
over this one?
And then would you pray us outtoday?
SPEAKER_00 (44:18):
Yes.
Um, you yeah, you have justsomething inside of you.
And um it's that that stirring,there's something just that is
there, there's something that isthere.
Um, and you're just you knowthat there's something else,
there's something more, there'suh wanting to grow in the Lord,
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um, or just be more of thatlight.
And there's just you you'refeeling this fear surrounding
that.
Like, what will people think?
What will happen?
Um, you know, will Lord reallywill the Lord really have my
back on that?
And uh yes, yes, he will.
I can say that yes, he will.
Um, for he says he goes beforeyou and behind you and he is,
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you know, on the sides of you,and he has his angel armies
encamped around you.
And um, when you partner withhim, when you partner with him,
whether it's in your home, inyour business, um, in whatever
it is that you are doing, youcan know that you are going to
go further faster because you'repartnering with the Lord.
Because he says that we plantand water, but he is the one who
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grows it.
Um, and that is in everything inthe re in your relationship with
the Lord and in sharing the Lordwith your family or strangers.
Um God is the one who growsthose things.
And so just be encouraged bythat, that he sees you and he
wants to partner with you.
And Lord, I just pray over thesewomen listening today, Lord.
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One, I just thank you for howamazing you are.
I thank you that you are umalways with us, Lord.
You say there is nowhere that wecan go, no place too dark that
we can go to hide from yourspirit.
And uh that you just you see us,you know what is going on in our
hearts and our lives, Lord.
Um, and that you are there tojust lift us up, Lord.
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You are our refuge, our hightower, and that we can run into
you and find rest.
And uh so, Lord, I just praythat over every single woman
listening, Lord, that therewould be this place of being
able to see revival um in herheart, in her home, um, from a
place of rest, Lord, from aplace of simplicity, Lord, that
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she gets to partner with you.
She gets to trust in you.
And we just um, I release just anew spirit of faith, Lord, a new
spirit of that burning fire ofdesire for you, uh, for her to
know more of you, to know moreof what um you have planned for
her.
And Lord, just remind her thatshe is your sheep and that she
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hears your voice, Lord, and thatshe can trust that.
She can trust that you are withher, directing her, directing
her steps, Lord.
I thank you, Lord.
And we just declare revival inthe homes of every single woman
listening now in the name ofJesus, that the Holy Spirit
would just come in and fillevery crack, crevice, corner,
every part of that home, Lord.
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Um, and especially in her heart,in the hearts of those around
her, Lord.
We thank you for what you aredoing.
We thank you that you call ussons and daughters.
We thank you that you are umthat your children, they are
crying out for you, Lord.
They are crying out for you.
And it just starts with onesimple yes from us, Lord.
It can be that spark of revival.
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In the name of Yeshua, we loveyou.
Amen.
Amen.
SPEAKER_01 (47:43):
Alyssa, thank you.
This has been incredible.
I'm sure the listeners areagreeing with me.
Um, thank you so much for beinga brave voice who's setting so
many free.
And I'm gonna close with theanchoring verse for Hope
Unlocked.
It's may the God of hope fillyou with all joy and peace in
believing, so that by the powerof the Holy Spirit you may
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abound in hope.
And that's Romans 15, 13.
So thank you, Alyssa.
I will be back with anotherepisode next week.
Have a great one.