July 17, 2025 • 70 mins
In this powerful episode of Hope Unlocked, host Kristin Kurtz welcomes back prophetic artist and author Codye Reystead. Codye shares the deeply moving story behind her creative calling, chronic illness journey, and the supernatural strength God provides as she paints live during worship events. Through raw testimony and Holy Spirit wisdom, this conversation explores faith through suffering, endurance, prophetic creativity, and trusting God’s greater glory story. Be inspired to keep saying “yes” to your calling—even when it costs everything. Listen in for healing, hope, and holy resilience.
Codye's Contact Info:
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Website - www.codyereystead.com
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Graham Cooke - www.brilliantperspectives.com
Ray Hughes - www.rayhughes.org
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Speaker 2 (00:16):
Welcome to the Hope Unlocked podcast.
I'm your host, kristen Kurtz,and I'm also the founder of New
Wings Coaching.
I help and empower wildheartedand adventurous women of faith
feeling caged and stuck, unlocktheir true purpose and potential
, break free from limitationsand thrive with confidence,
courage and hope.
If you're curious to learn moreabout coaching with me, head to
newwingscoachingnet and be sureto explore the show notes for
(00:38):
ways to connect with me further.
Get ready to dive in as weuncover empowering keys and
insights in this episode.
So tune in and let's unlockhope together.
Welcome to the Hope Unlockedpodcast.
I'm Kristen Kurtz, your host.
I pray this episode is like aholy ivy of hope for your soul.
Please help me.
Welcome Cody Reistad to the show.
I am so happy to have her backagain today.
(01:00):
If you didn't get a chance tolisten to her the last time I
had her on it was just recently,back August, or not August,
april I'm skipping ahead tosummer.
We're in summer right now, butback in April, 17th episode 133.
Don't want to miss it, but Ireally wanted to have her back
on and we we've just had such anenjoyable time coming on here
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ahead of time.
Just love her Like we have suchan amazing connection in the
spirit and here in the natural,and I would love for her to if
you didn't catch her last timeif you could just share a little
bit about yourself before weget started, and then we'll get
into it.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
Well, I'm a prophetic artist, um, but I'm also kind
of creative, like on.
I enjoy writing, I enjoy um I'mappreciation of beauty, I guess
is what you could say um anyform of creativity I really
enjoy um, and so, anyways, I doum have in the past I've done
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live prophetic paintings andsome prophetic teachings, things
like that, with the Father.
I consider what I get to dowith Him a great honor and an
exquisite pleasure.
What I get to do, what the Lordhas called me to, is absolutely
one of my most amazing passions.
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I get to be with him and I getto hear his heart, and then I
get to translate that to canvasand to paper or you know what
other forms that it may come out.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
Yes, well, I just I absolutely love.
If you guys go back and listento episode 133, you'll get to
hear a little bit more aboutwhat she does.
But there's also a back end tohow she's come to this place and
the journey.
For those of you who remember,the first season of Hope
(02:57):
Unlocked was Voices of Hope fromthe Valley and she's also a
pioneer, so that's the seasonwe're in.
And um, she's also a pioneer,so that's the season we're in.
But I want to really um, likewe.
We want to go on a little walktogether here today and just
share the journey of um thebehind the scenes.
I guess that would be the bestway to put it.
(03:17):
Um, does that resonate with you?
Speaker 1 (03:21):
yeah, the backstory.
Yeah, behind the scenes and thebackstory.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Yeah, so take us on a little journey wherever you're
led to start.
What does it look like for?
Speaker 1 (03:38):
you to continue walking out this adventure with
the Lord.
Well, probably listening to thefirst time that we, the first
podcast, would be helpful.
But, like I said, I'm aprophetic painter, so I'm going
to quickly, quickly recap,because that was kind of a whole
story of how God called me intothat.
But that was on the firstpodcast.
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So, for a quick recap, Istarted painting live in 2007.
2007, I believe, was my firstpainting.
Um, god called me into it and Ireally had no clue what I was
doing, um, so hence thepioneering piece.
At that time there was not a lotof prophetic painting, you know
(04:20):
, at live events, at worshipevents, things like that, there
wasn't really a lot of thatgoing on, especially where I was
located in Colorado, and so Idid not technically have a map
for that, it was just the Lord'svoice and he came to me as
Rabbi Jesus and Rabbi artist andtaught me how to do what I
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could not have done in my own,even in my own gift.
I mean, you know, I say giftingand the gift is from him of the
artistry.
But he took me out of mycomfortable zone and we had to
create in a completely differentway than what I was comfortable
with and so over the course,the first painting was in
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November and by May of that sameyear God had me in front of
like 3000 people at a GrahamCook conference and I did seven
paintings in three days and itwas a boot camp to get there.
And so it's, it's, it's, it's areally crazy fun, I pray
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encouraging story of howsomebody can be found by the
father.
You know, on the, in the middleof nowhere, without any.
You know, outside training,outside really much outside help
at all.
You know, outside training,outside really much outside help
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at all, what he can do and whathe can birth, and with your
gifting and when you partneryour gifting with him where he
can take in what he can do.
Because I pray that that's anencouraging story that we've
covered.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
Yeah, absolutely.
And, like Cody said, definitelygo back and listen to episode
133 to get more on her story aswell.
I so resonate with that and youknow we I think that's a huge
connection point for us is thewillingness to do things
differently, right to do this.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
Yeah, his vantage point and his instructions, even
if it looks completely crazy toother people, would you say, oh
, definitely, and I think thatpart of the pioneering spirit in
essence his spirit in us wouldbe able being able to hold onto
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that vision, uh, against allodds, and um being able to
pioneer when you can't even seestraight, much less around the
people.
You know the people around youaren't, they're not seeing the
vision, they're not um called tothis specific purpose and so
they um.
You know, since you travel abit of an isolation, you know um
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with the Lord, um in ourcallings and our destinies even,
and you know a lot of thestruggle is to learn how to um
trust your relationship that youhave built with the father and
to settle into, instead of theunknowing being scary, um to
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step in trust and wonder um andcontinue, you know, continue to
press in and to pioneer and togo after the vision that God has
given you and to continue tobuild it, to continue to create
it after he's given it to you.
Because usually the, you know,the fun part is receiving the
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vision.
The fun part, you know, butthen the execution of the vision
comes, is what I kind of liketo call it, and that can be
broader.
You know, for me, a lot of whatGod has taught me over the
years has been through.
My avenue of creativity is, youknow, as an artist, um, you know
he gives me the vision that hewants on canvas and that you
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know, hearing him in that spaceand and seeing in the spiritual
realm and him showing me, youknow what's on his heart and I
can see that in my mind's eyesand it's exquisite, it's
beautiful.
But then comes the work of itand the execution of it.
And you know, sometimes there'sa lot of blood, sweat and tears
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involved in the process ofexecuting the visions of God.
I wouldn't say sometimes thereis always.
And then you got the otheraspect of when you're trying to
execute the visions of God, whenyou're trying to build for God,
whatever he has asked you tobuild and whatever aspect that
might be, then it's going to beconfronted.
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If you've heard him and it'ssomething on his heart, well,
all of hell is going to comeagainst you.
Yes, in the process of tryingto get that executed, um, and
and created, you know, deliveredinto the spirit, into the
natural realm, um, and so therecomes a whole lot of um in the
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process of learning how to leaninto the god of endurance and
and to lean into his strength.
Um, you know, we've all beentaught those things, but there's
also, like a resilience andendurance that I believe the
Lord, we have access to when Godhas called us to pioneer, but
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there's a process of learninghow to access it and to maintain
it and to be fueled even by it.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Yeah, well, I like to call it resistance training.
So you're, yes, um, would yoube open to kind of bringing us
into what that looks like foryou?
Because, um, yeah, absolutelyLike when you're, when you're
stepping into a big God vision,or even a small one, like it's
(10:24):
not easy, like I don't.
I don't know why, at some point,like years ago, I thought you
know I I would like things to beeasier sometimes, you know,
like I think we all would justlike hit the easy button on this
one.
But could you, could you inviteus into what that has looked
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like for you?
Because I think you know I'lljust use, for example, when I
was saved, I was going to achurch and I, I remember it, it
wasn't, they didn't talk aboutlike spiritual warfare, they
didn't talk about.
It almost sounded like it.
Your life should become likeCinderella when you step in and
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I was experienced everything butum, and there was no grid and
nobody was like kind of helpingme along the journey because, um
, it was, it was my own journey,right.
But for those who are listeningand they're like, oh my gosh, I
didn't even know, like I didn'tknow that this is what I'm
supposed to experience when I'mwalking things out, right, what
(11:31):
does that look like for you inyour experience?
To continue on this endurance,you know endurance training as
well.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
Yeah, training as well, yeah, um.
A side note, I would probablytell people now the, you know,
just walking with the lord inthis creative space and
executing of his visions, um,for the time that I have that,
if they, if, if it is not of god, then it's, it'll probably seem
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possible.
If it's impossible, seemsimpossible, um, then it's
probably God and um, and if youcould do it in your own power,
then you probably just need toabandon it as personal agenda,
it's you know, um, and if it isnot contested by hell, I don't
know that it is an assignmentthat is of heaven.
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So you know, now I have kind oflearned, I think that I guess
what I like to say is that Calebhas risen, you know, rises up
within us, and that you know thewar, you're okay with that.
I think part of being a pioneer, part of, um, being a visionary
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, uh, even part of being, likeyou know, creative, visionary,
is that you're okay with thewarfare, because then, you know,
it's almost becomes aconfirmation that, okay, god
wants this done, because hell'scoming against it and it kind of
brings out a bit moreresilience and even I call it a
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holy rebellion.
You know that you're just likeno, you know, no, god wants this
done.
So you're going to have, it'sgoing to get done.
It may be ugly, it may not bepretty, but it's going to get
done.
Yes, um, my story, um, you know, in a personal realm, of what
this looked like for me, kind ofas a prophetic artist, is, I
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had no idea, um, you know thatonce you kind of stepped into
your land of destiny, you sawthe promised land, as you could
say.
You saw the vision, you saw yourpurpose, you know, god started
kind of downloading, you knowcalling and these things to you,
calling purpose, destiny theystarted to come up on the
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horizon.
I had no idea that once theycome up on the horizon, you know
, then you got to fight for yourpromised land.
Yes, you got to fight for yourcalling.
And then the intensity reallybegins, and for me, I didn't
really understand that, you know, the Lord called me into
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prophetic painting.
I remember the first painting Idid.
I was just like.
It was almost like my bonesjust started to burn, like I
could.
It felt like I was touchingeternity.
Like you know, my purpose waslike this is why, you know, one
of the reasons amongst you know,being, you know, some other
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roles in my life, but that thiswas the purpose of the artistry
he had given me.
This was the whole why of whyhe had given me the gift of the
artistry.
And I can't not do this, youknow.
And so the clearing, thecalling became very, very clear
to me, very clear.
And so the clearing, thecalling became very, very clear
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to me, very clear.
And so, but as I started topursue it, um, probably, maybe,
maybe a year, maybe two, I can'teven remember, but not long at
all.
Um, once I started doing somelive events and you know just
really said yes to the Lordabout.
You know what he is, he.
I felt like he was asking me todo um as a prophetic painter.
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And once I started saying yesto that and showing up, and you
know really, um engaging in my,my calling and my destiny that I
believed he had given me, um,all of hell came against me and
I, um, I got very, very sick andit was probably I had I'd had,
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I have two little girls.
Um, they're not little anymore,but at the time, um, I had two
little girls and after my secondone was born, um, and after I
started paying for the Lord andthings, I kind of began to time
overlapped some there and I, myhealth just fell apart and.
I had always been a runner.
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Um, we're talking like miles.
Um, I ran miles, I ate reallyreally well.
Um, you know, I took care of my, my body.
I took, I was not cruel to it,I took good care of it, and so
it did not make a whole lot ofsense I was 33 at the time.
(16:38):
It just did not make any senseto me, like what in the world is
happening, yeah, and I got verysick.
Um, I lost, like you know, 20pounds within like three weeks
oh my gosh, I got miserably sick, um, lots of pain and
undefinable we.
(16:59):
We didn't know what was going onand what was interesting.
Interesting about that whole.
When it hit, it hit very hardand that was in August of 2010.
And I, what killed me mostactually, the physical pain was
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just, you know, nobody likesthat.
You know, what my physical bodywas going through was just not
not any fun.
But what actually pained me themost, what, what was the most
grueling and hardest part toprocess of all that was that the
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pain was was consuming mephysically enough and even you
know I call it real estate in mymind, you know it was so
present that I couldn't push itaside to get with God.
I've always been, you know, Ilove to hear his voice.
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His voice is my lifeline and Ihad created, um, a space with
him and, in essence, of where wecould be in solitude and um and
have conversation and communeand um, that space was my
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lifeline, his heart, hearing him, sitting with him, being with
him, creating with him.
And I couldn't get in thatspace because the pain was so
intolerable really, and that'swhat broke my heart the most
about, about that, you know, sixmonths or so of not knowing
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what was physically happeningand battling this.
You know, um, the symptoms, uh,like always, that I could not
be with god, like I had beenwith him and I grieved, um,
there was grieving, and in 2011,we finally you know in the
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medical community that kind ofthing Long story short,
diagnosis came and it it was.
You know it was a mixed thingand I remember, you know,
receiving the call and adiagnosis came.
So it was, it was.
You know, on one hand, it'sreally nice to know what you're
fighting, um, but you know, onthe other, it's like, oh my gosh
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, is this?
You know, wow, this is myreality in this moment, this is
my reality.
And and then it began a verylong process of walking out.
And it began a very longprocess of walking out, walking
out your faith, with atremendous physical challenge
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and disease.
Yeah, and I, I've never beenone.
Um, he's the creator of theuniverse, he can fix something
in a moment, one word, and I,you know, I like to think.
There's this scripture andabout the sin, the um, roman
officer that you know, his, hisservant was sick and he ran to
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Jesus.
His servant was sick and he ranto Jesus.
And, and I I've looked this upnow and I think it was like 20,
some odd miles, you know, and hewent to Jesus knowing, in faith
, you know, that one word and hewill be healed.
You don't even have to come andand I think you know some it,
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for me personally, it was nevera struggle to trust the creator
of the universe that he couldheal me with one word.
It just never was a strugglethat.
That was always very much areality for me.
Um, so when things continued andthe Lord, you know, chose to
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let this remain, you walkthrough a whole lot of stuff.
You know there is a lot ofthings even within the church
that processing ongoing physicalillness and disease.
There's a lot of mystery in it.
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But then I had this whole oh mygosh, you know, lord, how do I
continue doing what we weredoing?
Because I know that.
I know I'm supposed to paint,I'm supposed to create, um, I'm
supposed, you know, at this time, I feel you know I'm supposed
to go to these events and youknow um.
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So then there was a massiveleaning into learning the
strength that he could be for me, even the physical strength.
What I do, I paint on four footby four foot canvases, when you
know, at these live eventsthey're large canvases, they're
paintings that are done veryquickly.
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It is actually very physical.
Yeah, I can imagine and thepreparation.
You're on your feet for hours,you know, because I would also
did some teaching and things andso, and even just you know,
people coming up and ministeringand it was very.
It's actually physically prettychallenging and I had done
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enough of it to know that, oh mygosh, you know I'm like I'm
walking into some unknownterritory because I can't depend
on my own physical body tosustain me to do what I was
doing for you.
And so it was a new realm oftrust, of actually learning and
living in a space that God couldconsume my physical body to
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sustain me to do what he hascalled me to do.
And I've really lived in thatspace since I.
You know I would wake at times.
It's a bloodborne disease that Ibattle, so it can kind of
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pretty well go to any organ andit's very, very difficult to you
know, to get get rid of.
It can kind of go into ieremission, you could call it,
but then it'll come back and alot of joint pain, a lot of
physical, you know, there's,yeah, things that you know, when
, when you paint with your wholebody big, big things that you
know, big can canvases and avery fast speed, it affects it.
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There was numbness in my armsand my hands and you know I
would just really have to trust,like you know, 10 minutes
before painting, and I'm goingto be up there, live in front of
you know, an event in front ofpeople and but God gave me the
vision.
You know we prepared it in thestudio, but I would have to be
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like, do I physically feel likeI can do this?
No, no, you know.
And so it's been a process oflearning how to lean into him so
hard and trust that he willcome through.
He wants this done, and Ishowed up and he'll get it done.
And um, and you know it's beena um, it's been a really long,
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it's a long journey about it anduh, so that went on, um, you
know, many times, uh, you know,getting up in front of people,
live and things and they didn'thave any idea of what was going
on?
Speaker 2 (24:52):
Did anybody know?
No, no.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
And only, like you know, inner circles of you know,
maybe the leadership thatinvited me and things like that,
but sometimes not even that, ofcourse, family and and at that
time, you know, for a long timeI mean, this has been, you know,
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over a decade now and gettingyou know, receiving treatments
going to.
You know, getting you knowreceiving treatments going to
you know, very long IVs.
I've had a, you know, had thegood old port a couple of times
and you know, actually,treatment, you know, having to
do that, medical, a lot ofmedical demand, I guess, and and
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they didn't, you know I wouldGod would give me the vision for
another event.
You know it's like, okay, Ineed, didn't you know I would
God would give me the vision foranother event.
You know it's like, okay, Ineed you to.
You know, here's three paintingsor here's whatever, and so I
would, you know, you just belike, okay, lord, you showed me,
you showed me these things, andso I know you're going to have
me well enough to get there andyou're going to have me well
enough to you know you're goingto step into me to have me well
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enough to.
You know you're going to stepinto me and I remember there
being times that, um, literallyI did one painting and I would
run, I run random fevers and Iit was the last painting of this
event Um, and I did not feelwell and you just show up, um,
and I did not feel well and youjust show up and and God you
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know, I was just like, really, Imean, I always need you, I
really need you to get this.
You know, I need you on anotherlevel because I literally
physically do not feel well todo this, you know, and, but I
know you, you know everything'sdone, everything's ready.
I know you want this done.
And and I, he stepped into me.
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I mean, there's been many timesnow that that people didn't
realize that, as I was paintingthese paintings, that God would,
literally, you know, it waslike Jesus just came from behind
and he would just step into mebecause I had no physical
strength, my arms were hurting,you know, for whatever reason,
um, or running a fever, and andGod, he would just take over.
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And and they would, you know,they, they, I'd step back from
them and I would not evenremember my physical movements.
I wouldn't.
You know what felt like 10minutes to me was, you know, the
full worship set of like anhour or whatever, and and in
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those moments I felt so good youknow, it was really like a
supernatural intervention.
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And you know, and I don't and Iwalk this day hasn't quite you
know, I know that some notspeaking for everybody at all,
but I think that there's aconcept that needs to be
addressed more, that sometimesGod leaves us in things, leaves
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us in fights, or you know, orwe're fighting for your health
or or whatever.
And you know there are thosethat you know, you have the
faith, you, you believe you cando this and you've, you know,
been told all kinds of things.
Well, you know, and I could getinto all of that, but you know
from kind of leaders in thechurch, from other people in the
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church, well, you just don'thave enough faith, you don't
have it, you know.
I mean, the list goes on and onand it's a kind of after
walking this out, it's kind ofheartbreaking sometimes, um,
because I think that at timesthe lord leaves things because
there's a greater glory story.
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Say that again.
And there's a greater glorystory yeah and you know he
stepped back and he could trustjob to go through the fire, to
lose everything and to stillcall him God and to worship him.
He could trust Job with thatand I think that there might be
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some that are the healing mightnot come yet, whether it's this
side of heaven or the other, butit may not come yet for some,
because the Lord has a greaterglory story and that he can
trust you with something evengreater.
And I wouldn't be able to.
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You know, these paintings are,um, you know I I look at them
now and it's like I can never dosome of these again.
Yeah, and I wouldn't be able tosay that I don't know that they
would carry the supernaturalessence, yes, of the Holy Spirit
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and his power If it hadn't beenso much of him in them and
doing them, if I had not had torely on him so hard, if it was
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more in my physical, my ownphysical power, my own physical,
you know artist, you knowgifting.
I don't know that they wouldcarry the impact and everything
that he desired them to carry.
Speaker 2 (31:01):
If that had not been there.
You know it's reallyinteresting.
Um, I want you to touch alittle bit more on um.
For those I feel like there'sgoing to be those that are
listening that you know I'veI've walked through a journey as
well, you know, in the weightright For whatever it looks like
(31:22):
.
And, um, like you, I'm notgoing to give up.
You know, no matter what, forthose who maybe have been told
like you, just don't have enoughfaith.
I've heard that before manytimes.
And what happens when I hearthat is, there's almost
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something in me that goes well,that that like is very shame
producing.
Speaker 1 (31:55):
Yeah, yeah, it's, um, it's walking it out with the
Lord this long.
I think there needs to be alittle bit of observance for
those who are people of faithand they're, you know, they have
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not been healed yet.
Um, that you know, and honestly, I've even kind of observed and
watched.
Um, you know, some are likeprophetic fathers in the faith
and a prophetic few propheticmothers are coming to mind as
well.
You know of of the nextgeneration over me.
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Um, as I was walking throughall of this, they were getting
hit hard with physical ailmentsand these were people that were,
like, you know, the Caleb's andthe Joshua's and the Moses's.
I mean, these were like amazing, highly gifted but highly
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honorable people of integrity inthe church and in the minute,
you know, had their ownministries and things and that I
was close to.
So I, you know, I knew their,their depth of faith, was
familiar with where they werewith the Lord and and I knew
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their character, you know theircharacters were it's an amazing
character and I kind of observedand watched, even at a time it
was just like you know, I think,that the enemy has cheap
weapons and then he has weaponsthat cost him more, and I think
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sometimes that you know what, ifwe engage in our destiny, we
engage in our calling and wehave that yes and amen in our
heart, that we're just like I,you know, I see the horizon,
lord, and I can tell this is,you know, this is where you want
me to go and we're pioneeringfor him, and but we've kind of
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made that.
You know, the caleb is rosin upand that's where we're just
like nothing's gonna get me offthis path.
You know, I see the promisedland and I'm going.
You know, because you are withme, I'm going and um, so then I
think the weapons start comingout.
So then I think the weaponsstart coming out to either
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distract us, which I think is avery cheap weapon of the enemy
you get distracted, so you getoff course, you disengage from
the vision, you stop building,you know you don't have the time
anymore.
I mean, you know thedistractions come, you're in
your focus, he, you know thedistractions come, your focus,
he, you know, moves your focus.
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And then you know you move into, you're like, okay, I recognize
that, I recognize thedistraction.
I'm not going to let you.
You know, no, that's not goingto happen.
I'm going to stay focused onwhat the father has asked me to
do here.
I'm going to stay focused onhis heart.
And so you move past thedistraction and then you know,
and then comes, you know, evenwithin the church and the
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ministries and things, you know,some sinful things that could
happen.
You know lifestyle shifts andchanges.
You know just not spending asmuch time with God or engaging
in things that you know, youknow scripturally are not what
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you should be doing, you know,and that actually becomes, you
know, a daily habit, kind ofstuff to distract you and pull
you away.
And so you know lifestyle shift, that you know there's just so
many weapons that he has andit's just sometimes I, just I
kind of watched, I sat andobserved, especially as I was
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trying to process, you know, myongoing battle for my health
with the Lord and continue doingwhat I was called to do.
You know I look to thegeneration over me, I look to
trusted voices that had, youknow, had character and faith
and had spoken into my life that, ok, they're getting hit hard,
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you know physically, andeverything else in their life is
ordered.
You know they, they've alreadybeen through this distraction
thing and they said, no, you'renot, you know, no, no, enemy I'm
not, I'm not going down thatright, I'm staying focused or,
um, you know, relational stuffis, um, no, not going to happen.
You know, um, and I, you know,and you know, I mean, the enemy
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came after, you know, my familyis marriage and he definitely is
distraction and all that kindof stuff, and it was just kind
of I noticed personally formyself and I could see, amongst
others, that if that, if thosecheap weapons fail over time, he
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brings out the big gun, and Ithink that sometimes I'm not
saying you know, we live in afallen world and I definitely
this is all mystery.
Um, sickness is just a mystery.
Um, why he?
You know he can see what.
Even I heard it sometimes thatwhy he, you know, I heard it
sometimes that you know, why dowe make healing so complicated?
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Because Jesus didn't RightExactly, you know they didn't.
I mean he would heal, even on amother's desire.
Speaker 2 (37:44):
You know he rose a boy from the, from the dead on a
mother's request.
Speaker 1 (37:48):
It had nothing you know nothing to do with the,
with the child, um.
So you know, it's just some ofthese factors that even that the
people would speak about it, um, that I heard about the whole
healing matter.
You know, I'm like you knowthat really don't line up with
what I saw with Jesus.
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It just doesn't line up.
And so it kind of puts youfurther out there of like you're
trying to process when you'rekind of in a space that not a
lot of people have spoken from.
I guess, you know they haven'tactually traveled it and spoken
from that space.
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And so I looked towards thevoices that had traveled through
and were in that space, and howwere they processing?
And so it's not, you know, forme it kind of came down like you
know what, you know, hecouldn't take me out, he
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couldn't, um, take me off of myyou know course, my journey of
destiny.
He couldn't get me disengagedwith all these other you know
weapons, um, and so I need mybody physically to do what the
Lord has asked me to do.
I need my physical body, I needmy hands to not be numb, and so
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what is the enemy?
I mean, what's happening withthe physical.
You know, my hands are numb.
And so I chose, like you know,as I and this was kind of you
know several years of thinkingand processing and continuing to
create.
Anyways, it really got evenmore clear.
I was like, ok, this is war,this is war now, and I'm
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supposed to be doing this, andthis is the, this is how you're
coming against me now.
And so it became, you know,I'll refer to Caleb once again
it's just like okay, you know, Ican either kind of in the
wilderness of disease, so I caneither sit and wait it out and
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you know, or, like Caleb andJoshua probably did, we can
assume they built an army, yes,while they were in the
wilderness yeah and and it is.
it is um battling a long-termyou know, one that has lasted a
long a disease.
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It's a very isolating thing andyou learn.
I've gotten to experience nowJesus is my best friend.
Speaker 2 (40:38):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (40:38):
Yes, I've gotten to experience the part of God's
nature that, yes, I've gotten toexperience the part of God's
nature that he's you know, jesussits down with you and there
are no words of comfort, buthe's crying with you, yes, and
he's sitting beside you and he'scrying with you and you're you
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know, because there's a lot ofdisappointment that you have to
navigate.
A lot of disappointment, um, alot of um.
You know even fear.
You know what's going to happennext, what's going to you know
cause um discouragement tooright.
Yes, yeah, and discouragement,yeah, and um, too right, yes,
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yeah, and so you, just um.
Yeah, I've learned how to sitin that space with jesus and
just I, I feel like I've gottento experience him in ways that
are just, are they kind ofpainful?
But there's beauty in the painand there's things that I think
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that he can birth only in thefire and the refining of the
whole process.
That will carry so much moreweight and so much more truth
and so much more power and somuch more beauty of the Lord.
Um, because you, you werewilling to go through the fire
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and and and let God be God.
Yes, um, there's a certainsovereignty to it.
That it's, you know.
Yes, lord, I know you can healme, but I'm not going to stop
worshiping you and working foryou and serving you if you don't
.
And that's actually a greateract of love that I can give you
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from where I'm at in my life andthe position that I'm at.
Yes, what a holy act that canbe, what a holy, you know, love
you get to show him.
Speaker 2 (42:50):
Yeah, and wouldn't you call that big faith?
Yes, I mean, that's that'sfaith right there, that's big
faith.
That's that's faith right there, that's big faith.
You are a you're this is a wordthat I was hearing last week um
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, you know, for those of us whoyou know, the horizon thing, um,
I prayed over us, like there'ssome, there's more on the
horizon right that we have yetto see or experience yet.
And if you go back to Hebrews 11, I just love Hebrews 11.
It's like, you know, if youguys haven't read it, go back
and read it.
But it's the heroes of thefaith.
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And I had a word for myFacebook group last week about,
you know, some of us are likemodern day heroes of the faith
because we have continued on andand I can say this and this
isn't boasting, right, I don'tfeel like it's boasting Like
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there's almost this likecongratulatory, um, I don't know
like how to even put this intowords that he's been like you
have continued on, like way togo.
I'm just simplifying.
And as a faith giant, you havefaced giants and when you come
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into the promised land, thereare giants.
So we, we are, we are giantsfacing giants, but we are more
gigantic because he is with usthan those little grasshoppers,
right, yeah, and yet you know.
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So I just really want to justgive you that congratulations as
well.
I mean your paintings.
I don't even remember the firsttime I saw one of your
paintings, but I get veryawestruck by prophetic paintings
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and it takes a special personto really kind of take me in, I
guess is the best way to put it.
Take me in, I guess is the bestway to put it.
And um, your book, um, there'sa book that she created called
chronicles of the treasuryjourney of destiny, and this
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book like rocked my world acouple weeks ago.
Um, there's so much in it.
The words like exploded off thepage, the, the paintings
exploded off the page.
And you know, as you're talking, even looking at the word I, I
often see words within words.
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The first four letters ofpainting is what?
Speaker 1 (45:51):
Well, pain, oh pain.
Yes, yes, yeah, it's, I don't.
And it's funny because you usethe word explosion and I guess
Ray Hughes once told me.
He said you know, it's like youjust explode onto the canvas.
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Yeah, I mean.
And what's fascinating to meand what has just undone me is
that it wasn't me.
Yeah, you know for me tophysically, for people to see
that that there were, you know,an explosion of creativity onto
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the canvas, that these paintingsgot done as fast as they did
and they were as big as theywere, and that I would have the
endurance to last a wholeweekend and do multiple
paintings and teach and be on myfeet and all these things was
just an extraordinary grace ofGod, Just an extraordinary act
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of God.
And I mean part of that is likesharing that.
Now, for a long time, God waslike you know they don't need to
know I was still workingthrough a lot with the Lord
personally about it, a lot, andthen slowly, over the last few
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years and things there's justbeen.
Now it's time to tell the story.
We built the treasury, you andI built the treasury, but it's
time to tell the story.
So some of this is standingfrom a place of wanting to honor
the master.
Yeah, Because it was not verylittle of it was of my doing.
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So much of it was hisempowering grace.
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (47:50):
And your yes, yes.
Speaker 1 (47:54):
And it's like, as you know, some of it is just to
encourage people, like it's sofar beyond what you could
imagine.
The empowering grace of God,yeah, and I feel you know this
has been a hard, hard road andit continues to be.
But I feel you know this hasbeen a hard, hard road and it
continues to be.
But I feel, in a strange,beautifully complicated way,
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blessed to have experienced thisfast these facets of his nature
that I know, you know, Iwouldn't have been, I wouldn't
have gotten to encounter andexperience his strength and and
his literal, like, his physicalmaintenance of my body if I had
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not so needed it.
And the journey continues.
I was, you know it's been veryinteresting because, like, but I
guess it's been almost twoyears ago, things kind of took a
downward shift again for mephysically and they really I've
kind of been in and out of thisfor years.
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It's, you know, kind of getquiet and go under emissions,
you know whatever they kind ofwant to call it for a while, but
then it'll, you know, flare upagain and here it comes again
and um, but two years ago it'sbeen, you know, it's, it's been
even more um to process becauseI was diagnosed with a, a
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cardiac condition, that, um,they can't you know they can't
do surgery and things.
They can manage it as they saythey can, you know, just manage
it.
It has slowed me downconsiderably and so you know,
it's almost.
It's been an interesting thingwith the Lord because it seems
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like I'm kind of back at thestarting gates and it hasn't
been removed.
It's been increased whatphysically to process with Him
now and there's been kind of acompletion of possibly doing
live events and things.
But it was also, I guess, theold Caleb in me.
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I was like, hmm, the IEdiagnosis, you know, in the
physical realm, increased andI've been trained enough now by
the Lord to look around and belike, okay, he's not done yet.
You know, jesus is not done yetbecause I'm getting hit again
(50:38):
Really, yeah.
So, okay, father, you knowthere's there's been a shift in
my calling, um, an advancementpossibly in my calling.
You know, what else do you wantme to do?
What if I'm not done with myassignment here?
Speaker 2 (50:54):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (50:55):
She's so distorted.
Yeah, yeah, you know there'sanother level, there's more.
And so then, you know, thecanvas is my meeting place with
him.
You know the canvas is mymeeting place with Him and it's
been.
You know, I'm like it's of,like, you know where's your,
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where's our sweet spot with theLord?
I guess you could say, you know, where is that?
Where is the communicationeasiest?
You know, is it on a benchoutside under a tree, in
creation?
You know.
But then, like, once we findthat sweet spot, like, make it
your mission to live there.
And then, when all, when,everything breaks loose and
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while hell comes against you,you have something built with
the father.
Yes, you have that sacred spacebuilt with him.
You have that reserve because,you know, I've learned, kind of
going through this the firsttime and stuff.
I was like you know what I, man, when I didn't feel well and I
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wasn't able to get in that spacewith the Lord and our intimacy
almost was challenged, becausemy, you know, physical being was
so consumed with pain that Ilearned that when I did feel
good, I'm showing up with God,I'm showing up with Jesus, you
know, because my brain feelsclear.
Today I can, you know, Iphysically can do this today.
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So I'm showing up and so I just, you know, I began to build a
well on the good days because Iknew, you know, bad days I'm
going to need that well, I'mgoing to need that.
Those encounters with him, thoseconversations with him, those
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aren't the days that you'regoing to need the fresh stuff,
need the good stuff that you'vebuilt with him, those
relationships where you, youknow just the closeness with him
.
And so you know, even kind of,when this next next thing hit
and this new diagnosis on top ofit came and I was just like,
okay, Lord, you know, thank youfor the reserve that we have,
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thank you for um, you know, okay, I'm going to see this as
confrontation of hell, you know,uh, okay, well then let's pick
up again.
But you know, what do you wantdone?
Because nearly always, over thecourse of walking this with him
, you know, I think, as we walkmore and more with him, you, you
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and you get the warriormentality that this is.
I mean heaven and earth, or Imean heaven and hell, are very
real, yes and uh.
And if you are on a mission forthe lord, whatever that might
be, the enemy will hate you, yes, and you got to get used to
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that and you got to be watchfulfor that.
And then you have to learn howto lean into the Lord to create
the resilience and a spine ofsteel that I'm doing this, you
know.
Even it go, even if it goesdown like Job so be it.
You know, and that's some days,some days the best that I can do
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is just, you know, ask Jesus,you know, just please, come and
sit by me and let me cry, youknow.
You know, and those have beenbecome some of my sweetest
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moments where he just sits withme and lets me cry the human
tears of disappointment of itall and but then trust him in
his sovereignty, that he's.
There's something in this thatcould be more powerful.
You know, if I allow you to dothis and you had my full yes and
amen and I don't take it backIf this is part of the story to
make it this into a glory storyfor you and to make these things
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that you and I do together andcreate and release more powerful
and have more of your essencein them and more of your
character, your nature, yourbeauty, your wonder, whatever it
might be, more of you in themand less of me, then I say yes
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and I just think that's okaywith the Lord.
I mean what I've experiencedwith him.
It's okay to be disappointed.
I think sometimes that's astigma.
That's on being, you know,being ill and being well.
You just got to assume, youknow, cause I felt that at times
, especially like being in frontof people, you know, um, it
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kind of IE called into theministry it's a very unique,
different way but you knowteaching and things too, and
that you had to have it alltogether and that you really
weren't.
You know you're believing foryour healing and, yes, god can
do this, and that you don't showyour brokenness and you're not,
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and that you don't show yourbrokenness and you're not.
I think that there is actuallypower in the authenticity and
realness of like.
Look, this hurts.
I am massively disappointed.
You know this is hard, this ispainful.
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You know, emotionally,physically, mentally, this is
painful.
I'm tired, on every level.
I'm tired.
I mean, some days.
You know some days you can go,it's not.
But then other, you know youjust wake up some days and it's
just like you know all of hellseems to be, you know, smacking
(57:20):
you in the face and uh, andphysically, mentally, everything
, and um, you know it's on thosedays that you, just, you know
you go to that reserve of likewhat you've encountered and
experienced with him in thejourney and that it's okay to
like God.
I just, I I'm so disappointed.
Yes, um, this hurts.
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You know, to process to learnhow to process your pain and
your disappointment, um, yourconfusion.
You're just, you know all thethings that kind of come with
like a ongoing physical illnessand even outside of that, just
ongoing tribulation in lifeLearning how to process that
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with the spirit of counselhimself, Mm-hmm.
With the spirit of counselhimself, yes, and the spirit of
wisdom himself.
We need to do that more.
Speaker 2 (58:17):
Yeah, we need to do that more.
I feel like this is like aclarion call that you're, it's
just.
Speaker 1 (58:26):
He is a spirit of counsel, he is a spirit of
wisdom.
He's never how.
He consoles and comforts, isalways perfection.
And and even when you don'thave a clue what you need and
you're broken and you, just, youknow, I mean, there's been
times that I just, you know,yeah, usually in my studio, but
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you know, just fall on my faceand it's just, I, just I can't
even.
I look at something.
I'm like if I could just getback into that space where you
and I could do that again, liketoday I am so physically ill
that I can barely get off thefloor, you know, and and so
you're mourning in essence,you're almost kind of mourning
(59:09):
your physical body and to beable to feel and to seek the
Lord.
He will come and he willliterally gather you up and cry
with you, and that's okay.
It's okay to not hear, get upand go on, or you should be.
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You know that sometimes it issimply going to be.
He cried over Lazarus.
You know the humanity of Jesusunderstands and he's not upset
with us because we don't knowhow to process this.
You know we don't know how toprocess this.
You know we don't know how toprocess all the things that are
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happening and whateverchallenges and forms they come
in, you know, in life, and he'sokay with that and he'll teach
us how and there's no shame.
Yes, exactly.
There's no shame and there's noblame.
And you know, just like I can'teven feel anything today, jesus
, I can't even think straight.
(01:00:16):
Can I just sit here with you?
I need to just sit here withyou.
And what that does, or what ithas done for me, you know, it's
just irreplaceable.
It's irreplaceable.
There is no counselor like him,there is no spirit of
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understanding like him.
And then you know to be willingto die to self.
I think that there is a spacein the spirit and a space in
this time of history for thosewho are willing to die for the
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greater glory story, for thosewho are willing to die for the
greater glory story.
And I say die where you knowyou may be walking around,
living, you know you're walkingon the planet and you're
breathing still, but you havedied to all and sacrificed
everything.
You're willing to sacrifice,you know everything, for the
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sovereignty of the Lord Jesusand his hand on your life and
your assignment and the purposethat he has assigned you to and
to please him.
Speaker 2 (01:01:43):
You know first and foremost right.
Speaker 1 (01:01:46):
Yeah, no, it's just, you get more focused, focused.
You know, um, if you allow theprocess to happen, if you sit
with him and you're in theunknown of am I going to be
healed or am I not going to behealed, or you know, do I keep
hanging on?
Do I can't?
You know what do I even do?
Now, it's been years.
You know, if you sit with himin the process and just like god
(01:02:08):
, you've got this, I can't dealwith this anymore, you know, I
can't even.
Yeah, I don't know what the nextstep is.
I don't know how to processthis.
I don't even know what I shouldbe doing um but you have it and
and the focus that you get of,just like you know this, this
really is an entryway intolearning how to see from heaven
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and earth and to see witheternal eyes.
These things will pass away,yes, but one day we will be
standing in front of Jesus.
We will be standing in front ofJesus, we will be standing in
front of the Father and we willget to have that chance of
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saying he will say job well done.
Amongst it all, you never letgo, never let go of my hem, of
the garment, because you alwaysbelieved that I could heal you.
That wasn't about that.
It wasn't about that.
Whether you believed or not,you allowed me, you sacrificed
and gave your life because youallowed me to write your story
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and you were willing to be forwhatever story that was.
You wanted it because it was mystory for you and that's what I
want to hear, because it was mystory for you and that's what I
want to hear.
You know, I guess, if anyanybody takes anything from all
of this, it's been a little bitall over the place, you know.
(01:03:44):
It's just.
It's okay to to be in a spacewith the Lord where you're
disappointed.
It's okay to be in a spacewhere you're hurting and it's
painful and you can't define itand you don't know how to move
on and the hits just keep coming.
(01:04:07):
You know of not knowing what'shappening.
You know it's okay to be inthat space and allow him to
actually encompass you and toempower you your mind, your
heart, your body, your will tokeep going, to keep pioneering,
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to keep creating, to keep living, to continue fighting for your
promised land.
Speaker 2 (01:04:43):
Yes, cody, can I share a verse that I'm hearing
just?
for you, yes, and I believe it'sfor others as well, but it's
Proverbs 31, 25 in the PassionTranslation.
It's bold power and gloriousmajesty are wrapped around her
and she laughs with joy over thelatter days and her teachings
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are filled with wisdom andkindness, as loving instruction
pours from her lips.
I just feel like he wants youto know that on a deep level,
and those of you who arelistening who also have walked
through a lot and are continuingto walk through a lot.
I don't know what you'rewalking through, but I do know,
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in even my own journey theselast six months or so, that have
been more pressing than I'veexperienced in a long time To
really focus on joy and laughing.
It makes the enemy really mad.
Yes, that's one of my arrows.
(01:05:51):
I don't know, it's amazing, ohmy gosh.
Well, um, I know we need towrap up.
Um, I think we could talk, forwe literally could talk forever.
We actually talked for about anhour and a half before we got
started.
Today, Um, we'll probably haveto have you back again just to
pour out some more wisdom andkeep on with your journey.
(01:06:14):
I know that what is the bestway for people to like find you
at this point?
I'll be sure to add theinformation to the show notes.
Speaker 1 (01:06:35):
Probably just CodyRystadcom, which is
C-O-D-Y-E-R-E-Y-S-T-E-A-Dcom,and then there's a contact form
and you know they can email mefrom there.
I'm also on Instagram, not verymuch, and then on Facebook Cody
Rystad Awesome.
Speaker 2 (01:06:51):
Well, we did this last time, but I always want to
do it again.
Is there anything else thatyou'd want to speak over?
Any words of encouragement oranything else that's coming up
for you, and then would you prayus out today.
Speaker 1 (01:07:05):
Yes, abba, father, we thank you that the seven
spirits, lord, that we readabout in Isaiah, that you are
all these things, the spirit ofmight, the spirit of counsel,
the spirit of wisdom, lord, allthese access, that you are those
things and that we, as yourchildren, get to access those
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things and to lean into you andreceive those gifts to empower
us, father, to sustain us.
It's incredible and in yourgoodness, lord, we recognize
your goodness.
So, father, I just speak a holyendurance over everyone that's
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listening now, if they have seentheir promised land, and for
those who haven't, father, youare so good, you will show.
You will show, if that is intheir heart, their calling,
their destiny, that you willshow it to them, lord, and that
all that you really need is oursimple yes and amen, continually
.
And, father, I just so.
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I speak a holy endurance, lord,I speak a holy comfort, like
only you can give to the heartsthat are bleeding right now from
just living this life, andthat's the things that come
against us.
Father.
I speak holy wisdom, lord God,on those that are seeking
counsel and how to continue andhow to pioneer, how to build,
how to create, how to live.
Lord God, on those that areseeking counsel and how to
continue and how to pioneer, howto build, how to create, how to
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live.
Lord, god, what to do next?
Father, I just speak yourwisdom and your counsel, father,
over everyone that's listening.
Now, Lord, and I just thank youfor everything that you are.
In Jesus' name, I pray Amen.
Speaker 2 (01:08:52):
Amen.
Thank you, Cody.
Such a blessing to have youback again, and thank you again
for being a brave voice who'ssetting so many free.
I will close with the anchoringverse.
It's may the God of hope fillyou with all joy and peace in
believing, so that by the powerof the Holy Spirit, you may
abound in hope, and that'sRomans 15, 13.
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So thank you again, Cody.
I'll have her contactinformation in the show notes
and I will be back with anotherepisode next week.
Thanks again, Thank you.
Welcome to the Hope Unlocked podcast.
I'm your host, kristen Kurtz,and I'm also the founder of New
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, break free from limitationsand thrive with confidence,
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If you're curious to learn moreabout coaching with me, head to
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ways to connect with me further.
Get ready to dive in as weuncover empowering keys and
insights in this episode.
So tune in and let's unlockhope together.
Welcome to the Hope Unlockedpodcast.
I'm Kristen Kurtz, your host.
I pray this episode is like aholy ivy of hope for your soul.
Please help me.
Welcome Cody Reistad to the show.
I am so happy to have her backagain today.
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If you didn't get a chance tolisten to her the last time I
had her on it was just recently,back August, or not August,
april I'm skipping ahead tosummer.
We're in summer right now, butback in April, 17th episode 133.
Don't want to miss it, but Ireally wanted to have her back
on and we we've just had such anenjoyable time coming on here
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ahead of time.
Just love her Like we have suchan amazing connection in the
spirit and here in the natural,and I would love for her to if
you didn't catch her last timeif you could just share a little
bit about yourself before weget started, and then we'll get
into it.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
Well, I'm a prophetic artist, um, but I'm also kind
of creative, like on.
I enjoy writing, I enjoy um I'mappreciation of beauty, I guess
is what you could say um anyform of creativity I really
enjoy um, and so, anyways, I doum have in the past I've done
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live prophetic paintings andsome prophetic teachings, things
like that, with the Father.
I consider what I get to dowith Him a great honor and an
exquisite pleasure.
What I get to do, what the Lordhas called me to, is absolutely
one of my most amazing passions.
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I get to be with him and I getto hear his heart, and then I
get to translate that to canvasand to paper or you know what
other forms that it may come out.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
Yes, well, I just I absolutely love.
If you guys go back and listento episode 133, you'll get to
hear a little bit more aboutwhat she does.
But there's also a back end tohow she's come to this place and
the journey.
For those of you who remember,the first season of Hope
(02:57):
Unlocked was Voices of Hope fromthe Valley and she's also a
pioneer, so that's the seasonwe're in.
And um, she's also a pioneer,so that's the season we're in.
But I want to really um, likewe.
We want to go on a little walktogether here today and just
share the journey of um thebehind the scenes.
I guess that would be the bestway to put it.
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Um, does that resonate with you?
Speaker 1 (03:21):
yeah, the backstory.
Yeah, behind the scenes and thebackstory.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Yeah, so take us on a little journey wherever you're
led to start.
What does it look like for?
Speaker 1 (03:38):
you to continue walking out this adventure with
the Lord.
Well, probably listening to thefirst time that we, the first
podcast, would be helpful.
But, like I said, I'm aprophetic painter, so I'm going
to quickly, quickly recap,because that was kind of a whole
story of how God called me intothat.
But that was on the firstpodcast.
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So, for a quick recap, Istarted painting live in 2007.
2007, I believe, was my firstpainting.
Um, god called me into it and Ireally had no clue what I was
doing, um, so hence thepioneering piece.
At that time there was not a lotof prophetic painting, you know
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, at live events, at worshipevents, things like that, there
wasn't really a lot of thatgoing on, especially where I was
located in Colorado, and so Idid not technically have a map
for that, it was just the Lord'svoice and he came to me as
Rabbi Jesus and Rabbi artist andtaught me how to do what I
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could not have done in my own,even in my own gift.
I mean, you know, I say giftingand the gift is from him of the
artistry.
But he took me out of mycomfortable zone and we had to
create in a completely differentway than what I was comfortable
with and so over the course,the first painting was in
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November and by May of that sameyear God had me in front of
like 3000 people at a GrahamCook conference and I did seven
paintings in three days and itwas a boot camp to get there.
And so it's, it's, it's, it's areally crazy fun, I pray
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encouraging story of howsomebody can be found by the
father.
You know, on the, in the middleof nowhere, without any.
You know, outside training,outside really much outside help
at all.
You know, outside training,outside really much outside help
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at all, what he can do and whathe can birth, and with your
gifting and when you partneryour gifting with him where he
can take in what he can do.
Because I pray that that's anencouraging story that we've
covered.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
Yeah, absolutely.
And, like Cody said, definitelygo back and listen to episode
133 to get more on her story aswell.
I so resonate with that and youknow we I think that's a huge
connection point for us is thewillingness to do things
differently, right to do this.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
Yeah, his vantage point and his instructions, even
if it looks completely crazy toother people, would you say, oh
, definitely, and I think thatpart of the pioneering spirit in
essence his spirit in us wouldbe able being able to hold onto
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that vision, uh, against allodds, and um being able to
pioneer when you can't even seestraight, much less around the
people.
You know the people around youaren't, they're not seeing the
vision, they're not um called tothis specific purpose and so
they um.
You know, since you travel abit of an isolation, you know um
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with the Lord, um in ourcallings and our destinies even,
and you know a lot of thestruggle is to learn how to um
trust your relationship that youhave built with the father and
to settle into, instead of theunknowing being scary, um to
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step in trust and wonder um andcontinue, you know, continue to
press in and to pioneer and togo after the vision that God has
given you and to continue tobuild it, to continue to create
it after he's given it to you.
Because usually the, you know,the fun part is receiving the
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vision.
The fun part, you know, butthen the execution of the vision
comes, is what I kind of liketo call it, and that can be
broader.
You know, for me, a lot of whatGod has taught me over the
years has been through.
My avenue of creativity is, youknow, as an artist, um, you know
he gives me the vision that hewants on canvas and that you
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know, hearing him in that spaceand and seeing in the spiritual
realm and him showing me, youknow what's on his heart and I
can see that in my mind's eyesand it's exquisite, it's
beautiful.
But then comes the work of itand the execution of it.
And you know, sometimes there'sa lot of blood, sweat and tears
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involved in the process ofexecuting the visions of God.
I wouldn't say sometimes thereis always.
And then you got the otheraspect of when you're trying to
execute the visions of God, whenyou're trying to build for God,
whatever he has asked you tobuild and whatever aspect that
might be, then it's going to beconfronted.
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If you've heard him and it'ssomething on his heart, well,
all of hell is going to comeagainst you.
Yes, in the process of tryingto get that executed, um, and
and created, you know, deliveredinto the spirit, into the
natural realm, um, and so therecomes a whole lot of um in the
(09:25):
process of learning how to leaninto the god of endurance and
and to lean into his strength.
Um, you know, we've all beentaught those things, but there's
also, like a resilience andendurance that I believe the
Lord, we have access to when Godhas called us to pioneer, but
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there's a process of learninghow to access it and to maintain
it and to be fueled even by it.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Yeah, well, I like to call it resistance training.
So you're, yes, um, would yoube open to kind of bringing us
into what that looks like foryou?
Because, um, yeah, absolutelyLike when you're, when you're
stepping into a big God vision,or even a small one, like it's
(10:24):
not easy, like I don't.
I don't know why, at some point,like years ago, I thought you
know I I would like things to beeasier sometimes, you know,
like I think we all would justlike hit the easy button on this
one.
But could you, could you inviteus into what that has looked
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like for you?
Because I think you know I'lljust use, for example, when I
was saved, I was going to achurch and I, I remember it, it
wasn't, they didn't talk aboutlike spiritual warfare, they
didn't talk about.
It almost sounded like it.
Your life should become likeCinderella when you step in and
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I was experienced everything butum, and there was no grid and
nobody was like kind of helpingme along the journey because, um
, it was, it was my own journey,right.
But for those who are listeningand they're like, oh my gosh, I
didn't even know, like I didn'tknow that this is what I'm
supposed to experience when I'mwalking things out, right, what
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does that look like for you inyour experience?
To continue on this endurance,you know endurance training as
well.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
Yeah, training as well, yeah, um.
A side note, I would probablytell people now the, you know,
just walking with the lord inthis creative space and
executing of his visions, um,for the time that I have that,
if they, if, if it is not of god, then it's, it'll probably seem
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possible.
If it's impossible, seemsimpossible, um, then it's
probably God and um, and if youcould do it in your own power,
then you probably just need toabandon it as personal agenda,
it's you know, um, and if it isnot contested by hell, I don't
know that it is an assignmentthat is of heaven.
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So you know, now I have kind oflearned, I think that I guess
what I like to say is that Calebhas risen, you know, rises up
within us, and that you know thewar, you're okay with that.
I think part of being a pioneer, part of, um, being a visionary
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, uh, even part of being, likeyou know, creative, visionary,
is that you're okay with thewarfare, because then, you know,
it's almost becomes aconfirmation that, okay, god
wants this done, because hell'scoming against it and it kind of
brings out a bit moreresilience and even I call it a
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holy rebellion.
You know that you're just likeno, you know, no, god wants this
done.
So you're going to have, it'sgoing to get done.
It may be ugly, it may not bepretty, but it's going to get
done.
Yes, um, my story, um, you know, in a personal realm, of what
this looked like for me, kind ofas a prophetic artist, is, I
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had no idea, um, you know thatonce you kind of stepped into
your land of destiny, you sawthe promised land, as you could
say.
You saw the vision, you saw yourpurpose, you know, god started
kind of downloading, you knowcalling and these things to you,
calling purpose, destiny theystarted to come up on the
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horizon.
I had no idea that once theycome up on the horizon, you know
, then you got to fight for yourpromised land.
Yes, you got to fight for yourcalling.
And then the intensity reallybegins, and for me, I didn't
really understand that, you know, the Lord called me into
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prophetic painting.
I remember the first painting Idid.
I was just like.
It was almost like my bonesjust started to burn, like I
could.
It felt like I was touchingeternity.
Like you know, my purpose waslike this is why, you know, one
of the reasons amongst you know,being, you know, some other
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roles in my life, but that thiswas the purpose of the artistry
he had given me.
This was the whole why of whyhe had given me the gift of the
artistry.
And I can't not do this, youknow.
And so the clearing, thecalling became very, very clear
to me, very clear.
And so the clearing, thecalling became very, very clear
(15:07):
to me, very clear.
And so, but as I started topursue it, um, probably, maybe,
maybe a year, maybe two, I can'teven remember, but not long at
all.
Um, once I started doing somelive events and you know just
really said yes to the Lordabout.
You know what he is, he.
I felt like he was asking me todo um as a prophetic painter.
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And once I started saying yesto that and showing up, and you
know really, um engaging in my,my calling and my destiny that I
believed he had given me, um,all of hell came against me and
I, um, I got very, very sick andit was probably I had I'd had,
(15:56):
I have two little girls.
Um, they're not little anymore,but at the time, um, I had two
little girls and after my secondone was born, um, and after I
started paying for the Lord andthings, I kind of began to time
overlapped some there and I, myhealth just fell apart and.
I had always been a runner.
(16:17):
Um, we're talking like miles.
Um, I ran miles, I ate reallyreally well.
Um, you know, I took care of my, my body.
I took, I was not cruel to it,I took good care of it, and so
it did not make a whole lot ofsense I was 33 at the time.
(16:38):
It just did not make any senseto me, like what in the world is
happening, yeah, and I got verysick.
Um, I lost, like you know, 20pounds within like three weeks
oh my gosh, I got miserably sick, um, lots of pain and
undefinable we.
(16:59):
We didn't know what was going onand what was interesting.
Interesting about that whole.
When it hit, it hit very hardand that was in August of 2010.
And I, what killed me mostactually, the physical pain was
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just, you know, nobody likesthat.
You know, what my physical bodywas going through was just not
not any fun.
But what actually pained me themost, what, what was the most
grueling and hardest part toprocess of all that was that the
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pain was was consuming mephysically enough and even you
know I call it real estate in mymind, you know it was so
present that I couldn't push itaside to get with God.
I've always been, you know, Ilove to hear his voice.
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His voice is my lifeline and Ihad created, um, a space with
him and, in essence, of where wecould be in solitude and um and
have conversation and communeand um, that space was my
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lifeline, his heart, hearing him, sitting with him, being with
him, creating with him.
And I couldn't get in thatspace because the pain was so
intolerable really, and that'swhat broke my heart the most
about, about that, you know, sixmonths or so of not knowing
(18:47):
what was physically happeningand battling this.
You know, um, the symptoms, uh,like always, that I could not
be with god, like I had beenwith him and I grieved, um,
there was grieving, and in 2011,we finally you know in the
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medical community that kind ofthing Long story short,
diagnosis came and it it was.
You know it was a mixed thingand I remember, you know,
receiving the call and adiagnosis came.
So it was, it was.
You know, on one hand, it'sreally nice to know what you're
fighting, um, but you know, onthe other, it's like, oh my gosh
(19:31):
, is this?
You know, wow, this is myreality in this moment, this is
my reality.
And and then it began a verylong process of walking out.
And it began a very longprocess of walking out, walking
out your faith, with atremendous physical challenge
(19:57):
and disease.
Yeah, and I, I've never beenone.
Um, he's the creator of theuniverse, he can fix something
in a moment, one word, and I,you know, I like to think.
There's this scripture andabout the sin, the um, roman
officer that you know, his, hisservant was sick and he ran to
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Jesus.
His servant was sick and he ranto Jesus.
And, and I I've looked this upnow and I think it was like 20,
some odd miles, you know, and hewent to Jesus knowing, in faith
, you know, that one word and hewill be healed.
You don't even have to come andand I think you know some it,
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for me personally, it was nevera struggle to trust the creator
of the universe that he couldheal me with one word.
It just never was a strugglethat.
That was always very much areality for me.
Um, so when things continued andthe Lord, you know, chose to
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let this remain, you walkthrough a whole lot of stuff.
You know there is a lot ofthings even within the church
that processing ongoing physicalillness and disease.
There's a lot of mystery in it.
(21:30):
But then I had this whole oh mygosh, you know, lord, how do I
continue doing what we weredoing?
Because I know that.
I know I'm supposed to paint,I'm supposed to create, um, I'm
supposed, you know, at this time, I feel you know I'm supposed
to go to these events and youknow um.
(21:53):
So then there was a massiveleaning into learning the
strength that he could be for me, even the physical strength.
What I do, I paint on four footby four foot canvases, when you
know, at these live eventsthey're large canvases, they're
paintings that are done veryquickly.
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It is actually very physical.
Yeah, I can imagine and thepreparation.
You're on your feet for hours,you know, because I would also
did some teaching and things andso, and even just you know,
people coming up and ministeringand it was very.
It's actually physically prettychallenging and I had done
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enough of it to know that, oh mygosh, you know I'm like I'm
walking into some unknownterritory because I can't depend
on my own physical body tosustain me to do what I was
doing for you.
And so it was a new realm oftrust, of actually learning and
living in a space that God couldconsume my physical body to
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sustain me to do what he hascalled me to do.
And I've really lived in thatspace since I.
You know I would wake at times.
It's a bloodborne disease that Ibattle, so it can kind of
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pretty well go to any organ andit's very, very difficult to you
know, to get get rid of.
It can kind of go into ieremission, you could call it,
but then it'll come back and alot of joint pain, a lot of
physical, you know, there's,yeah, things that you know, when
, when you paint with your wholebody big, big things that you
know, big can canvases and avery fast speed, it affects it.
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There was numbness in my armsand my hands and you know I
would just really have to trust,like you know, 10 minutes
before painting, and I'm goingto be up there, live in front of
you know, an event in front ofpeople and but God gave me the
vision.
You know we prepared it in thestudio, but I would have to be
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like, do I physically feel likeI can do this?
No, no, you know.
And so it's been a process oflearning how to lean into him so
hard and trust that he willcome through.
He wants this done, and Ishowed up and he'll get it done.
And um, and you know it's beena um, it's been a really long,
(24:36):
it's a long journey about it anduh, so that went on, um, you
know, many times, uh, you know,getting up in front of people,
live and things and they didn'thave any idea of what was going
on?
Speaker 2 (24:52):
Did anybody know?
No, no.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
And only, like you know, inner circles of you know,
maybe the leadership thatinvited me and things like that,
but sometimes not even that, ofcourse, family and and at that
time, you know, for a long timeI mean, this has been, you know,
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over a decade now and gettingyou know, receiving treatments
going to.
You know, getting you knowreceiving treatments going to
you know, very long IVs.
I've had a, you know, had thegood old port a couple of times
and you know, actually,treatment, you know, having to
do that, medical, a lot ofmedical demand, I guess, and and
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they didn't, you know I wouldGod would give me the vision for
another event.
You know it's like, okay, Ineed, didn't you know I would
God would give me the vision foranother event.
You know it's like, okay, Ineed you to.
You know, here's three paintingsor here's whatever, and so I
would, you know, you just belike, okay, lord, you showed me,
you showed me these things, andso I know you're going to have
me well enough to get there andyou're going to have me well
enough to you know you're goingto step into me to have me well
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enough to.
You know you're going to stepinto me and I remember there
being times that, um, literallyI did one painting and I would
run, I run random fevers and Iit was the last painting of this
event Um, and I did not feelwell and you just show up, um,
and I did not feel well and youjust show up and and God you
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know, I was just like, really, Imean, I always need you, I
really need you to get this.
You know, I need you on anotherlevel because I literally
physically do not feel well todo this, you know, and, but I
know you, you know everything'sdone, everything's ready.
I know you want this done.
And and I, he stepped into me.
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I mean, there's been many timesnow that that people didn't
realize that, as I was paintingthese paintings, that God would,
literally, you know, it waslike Jesus just came from behind
and he would just step into mebecause I had no physical
strength, my arms were hurting,you know, for whatever reason,
um, or running a fever, and andGod, he would just take over.
(27:18):
And and they would, you know,they, they, I'd step back from
them and I would not evenremember my physical movements.
I wouldn't.
You know what felt like 10minutes to me was, you know, the
full worship set of like anhour or whatever, and and in
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those moments I felt so good youknow, it was really like a
supernatural intervention.
(28:05):
And you know, and I don't and Iwalk this day hasn't quite you
know, I know that some notspeaking for everybody at all,
but I think that there's aconcept that needs to be
addressed more, that sometimesGod leaves us in things, leaves
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us in fights, or you know, orwe're fighting for your health
or or whatever.
And you know there are thosethat you know, you have the
faith, you, you believe you cando this and you've, you know,
been told all kinds of things.
Well, you know, and I could getinto all of that, but you know
from kind of leaders in thechurch, from other people in the
(28:50):
church, well, you just don'thave enough faith, you don't
have it, you know.
I mean, the list goes on and onand it's a kind of after
walking this out, it's kind ofheartbreaking sometimes, um,
because I think that at timesthe lord leaves things because
there's a greater glory story.
(29:11):
Say that again.
And there's a greater glorystory yeah and you know he
stepped back and he could trustjob to go through the fire, to
lose everything and to stillcall him God and to worship him.
He could trust Job with thatand I think that there might be
(29:36):
some that are the healing mightnot come yet, whether it's this
side of heaven or the other, butit may not come yet for some,
because the Lord has a greaterglory story and that he can
trust you with something evengreater.
And I wouldn't be able to.
(29:59):
You know, these paintings are,um, you know I I look at them
now and it's like I can never dosome of these again.
Yeah, and I wouldn't be able tosay that I don't know that they
would carry the supernaturalessence, yes, of the Holy Spirit
(30:21):
and his power If it hadn't beenso much of him in them and
doing them, if I had not had torely on him so hard, if it was
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more in my physical, my ownphysical power, my own physical,
you know artist, you knowgifting.
I don't know that they wouldcarry the impact and everything
that he desired them to carry.
Speaker 2 (31:01):
If that had not been there.
You know it's reallyinteresting.
Um, I want you to touch alittle bit more on um.
For those I feel like there'sgoing to be those that are
listening that you know I'veI've walked through a journey as
well, you know, in the weightright For whatever it looks like
(31:22):
.
And, um, like you, I'm notgoing to give up.
You know, no matter what, forthose who maybe have been told
like you, just don't have enoughfaith.
I've heard that before manytimes.
And what happens when I hearthat is, there's almost
(31:47):
something in me that goes well,that that like is very shame
producing.
Speaker 1 (31:55):
Yeah, yeah, it's, um, it's walking it out with the
Lord this long.
I think there needs to be alittle bit of observance for
those who are people of faithand they're, you know, they have
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not been healed yet.
Um, that you know, and honestly, I've even kind of observed and
watched.
Um, you know, some are likeprophetic fathers in the faith
and a prophetic few propheticmothers are coming to mind as
well.
You know of of the nextgeneration over me.
(32:39):
Um, as I was walking throughall of this, they were getting
hit hard with physical ailmentsand these were people that were,
like, you know, the Caleb's andthe Joshua's and the Moses's.
I mean, these were like amazing, highly gifted but highly
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honorable people of integrity inthe church and in the minute,
you know, had their ownministries and things and that I
was close to.
So I, you know, I knew their,their depth of faith, was
familiar with where they werewith the Lord and and I knew
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their character, you know theircharacters were it's an amazing
character and I kind of observedand watched, even at a time it
was just like you know, I think,that the enemy has cheap
weapons and then he has weaponsthat cost him more, and I think
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sometimes that you know what, ifwe engage in our destiny, we
engage in our calling and wehave that yes and amen in our
heart, that we're just like I,you know, I see the horizon,
lord, and I can tell this is,you know, this is where you want
me to go and we're pioneeringfor him, and but we've kind of
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made that.
You know, the caleb is rosin upand that's where we're just
like nothing's gonna get me offthis path.
You know, I see the promisedland and I'm going.
You know, because you are withme, I'm going and um, so then I
think the weapons start comingout.
So then I think the weaponsstart coming out to either
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distract us, which I think is avery cheap weapon of the enemy
you get distracted, so you getoff course, you disengage from
the vision, you stop building,you know you don't have the time
anymore.
I mean, you know thedistractions come, you're in
your focus, he, you know thedistractions come, your focus,
he, you know, moves your focus.
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And then you know you move into, you're like, okay, I recognize
that, I recognize thedistraction.
I'm not going to let you.
You know, no, that's not goingto happen.
I'm going to stay focused onwhat the father has asked me to
do here.
I'm going to stay focused onhis heart.
And so you move past thedistraction and then you know,
and then comes, you know, evenwithin the church and the
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ministries and things, you know,some sinful things that could
happen.
You know lifestyle shifts andchanges.
You know just not spending asmuch time with God or engaging
in things that you know, youknow scripturally are not what
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you should be doing, you know,and that actually becomes, you
know, a daily habit, kind ofstuff to distract you and pull
you away.
And so you know lifestyle shift, that you know there's just so
many weapons that he has andit's just sometimes I, just I
kind of watched, I sat andobserved, especially as I was
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trying to process, you know, myongoing battle for my health
with the Lord and continue doingwhat I was called to do.
You know I look to thegeneration over me, I look to
trusted voices that had, youknow, had character and faith
and had spoken into my life that, ok, they're getting hit hard,
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you know physically, andeverything else in their life is
ordered.
You know they, they've alreadybeen through this distraction
thing and they said, no, you'renot, you know, no, no, enemy I'm
not, I'm not going down thatright, I'm staying focused or,
um, you know, relational stuffis, um, no, not going to happen.
You know, um, and I, you know,and you know, I mean, the enemy
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came after, you know, my familyis marriage and he definitely is
distraction and all that kindof stuff, and it was just kind
of I noticed personally formyself and I could see, amongst
others, that if that, if thosecheap weapons fail over time, he
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brings out the big gun, and Ithink that sometimes I'm not
saying you know, we live in afallen world and I definitely
this is all mystery.
Um, sickness is just a mystery.
Um, why he?
You know he can see what.
Even I heard it sometimes thatwhy he, you know, I heard it
sometimes that you know, why dowe make healing so complicated?
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Because Jesus didn't RightExactly, you know they didn't.
I mean he would heal, even on amother's desire.
Speaker 2 (37:44):
You know he rose a boy from the, from the dead on a
mother's request.
Speaker 1 (37:48):
It had nothing you know nothing to do with the,
with the child, um.
So you know, it's just some ofthese factors that even that the
people would speak about it, um, that I heard about the whole
healing matter.
You know, I'm like you knowthat really don't line up with
what I saw with Jesus.
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It just doesn't line up.
And so it kind of puts youfurther out there of like you're
trying to process when you'rekind of in a space that not a
lot of people have spoken from.
I guess, you know they haven'tactually traveled it and spoken
from that space.
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And so I looked towards thevoices that had traveled through
and were in that space, and howwere they processing?
And so it's not, you know, forme it kind of came down like you
know what, you know, hecouldn't take me out, he
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couldn't, um, take me off of myyou know course, my journey of
destiny.
He couldn't get me disengagedwith all these other you know
weapons, um, and so I need mybody physically to do what the
Lord has asked me to do.
I need my physical body, I needmy hands to not be numb, and so
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what is the enemy?
I mean, what's happening withthe physical.
You know, my hands are numb.
And so I chose, like you know,as I and this was kind of you
know several years of thinkingand processing and continuing to
create.
Anyways, it really got evenmore clear.
I was like, ok, this is war,this is war now, and I'm
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supposed to be doing this, andthis is the, this is how you're
coming against me now.
And so it became, you know,I'll refer to Caleb once again
it's just like okay, you know, Ican either kind of in the
wilderness of disease, so I caneither sit and wait it out and
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you know, or, like Caleb andJoshua probably did, we can
assume they built an army, yes,while they were in the
wilderness yeah and and it is.
it is um battling a long-termyou know, one that has lasted a
long a disease.
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It's a very isolating thing andyou learn.
I've gotten to experience nowJesus is my best friend.
Speaker 2 (40:38):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (40:38):
Yes, I've gotten to experience the part of God's
nature that, yes, I've gotten toexperience the part of God's
nature that he's you know, jesussits down with you and there
are no words of comfort, buthe's crying with you, yes, and
he's sitting beside you and he'scrying with you and you're you
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know, because there's a lot ofdisappointment that you have to
navigate.
A lot of disappointment, um, alot of um.
You know even fear.
You know what's going to happennext, what's going to you know
cause um discouragement tooright.
Yes, yeah, and discouragement,yeah, and um, too right, yes,
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yeah, and so you, just um.
Yeah, I've learned how to sitin that space with jesus and
just I, I feel like I've gottento experience him in ways that
are just, are they kind ofpainful?
But there's beauty in the painand there's things that I think
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that he can birth only in thefire and the refining of the
whole process.
That will carry so much moreweight and so much more truth
and so much more power and somuch more beauty of the Lord.
Um, because you, you werewilling to go through the fire
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and and and let God be God.
Yes, um, there's a certainsovereignty to it.
That it's, you know.
Yes, lord, I know you can healme, but I'm not going to stop
worshiping you and working foryou and serving you if you don't
.
And that's actually a greateract of love that I can give you
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from where I'm at in my life andthe position that I'm at.
Yes, what a holy act that canbe, what a holy, you know, love
you get to show him.
Speaker 2 (42:50):
Yeah, and wouldn't you call that big faith?
Yes, I mean, that's that'sfaith right there, that's big
faith.
That's that's faith right there, that's big faith.
You are a you're this is a wordthat I was hearing last week um
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, you know, for those of us whoyou know, the horizon thing, um,
I prayed over us, like there'ssome, there's more on the
horizon right that we have yetto see or experience yet.
And if you go back to Hebrews 11, I just love Hebrews 11.
It's like, you know, if youguys haven't read it, go back
and read it.
But it's the heroes of thefaith.
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And I had a word for myFacebook group last week about,
you know, some of us are likemodern day heroes of the faith
because we have continued on andand I can say this and this
isn't boasting, right, I don'tfeel like it's boasting Like
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there's almost this likecongratulatory, um, I don't know
like how to even put this intowords that he's been like you
have continued on, like way togo.
I'm just simplifying.
And as a faith giant, you havefaced giants and when you come
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into the promised land, thereare giants.
So we, we are, we are giantsfacing giants, but we are more
gigantic because he is with usthan those little grasshoppers,
right, yeah, and yet you know.
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So I just really want to justgive you that congratulations as
well.
I mean your paintings.
I don't even remember the firsttime I saw one of your
paintings, but I get veryawestruck by prophetic paintings
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and it takes a special personto really kind of take me in, I
guess is the best way to put it.
Take me in, I guess is the bestway to put it.
And um, your book, um, there'sa book that she created called
chronicles of the treasuryjourney of destiny, and this
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book like rocked my world acouple weeks ago.
Um, there's so much in it.
The words like exploded off thepage, the, the paintings
exploded off the page.
And you know, as you're talking, even looking at the word I, I
often see words within words.
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The first four letters ofpainting is what?
Speaker 1 (45:51):
Well, pain, oh pain.
Yes, yes, yeah, it's, I don't.
And it's funny because you usethe word explosion and I guess
Ray Hughes once told me.
He said you know, it's like youjust explode onto the canvas.
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Yeah, I mean.
And what's fascinating to meand what has just undone me is
that it wasn't me.
Yeah, you know for me tophysically, for people to see
that that there were, you know,an explosion of creativity onto
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the canvas, that these paintingsgot done as fast as they did
and they were as big as theywere, and that I would have the
endurance to last a wholeweekend and do multiple
paintings and teach and be on myfeet and all these things was
just an extraordinary grace ofGod, Just an extraordinary act
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of God.
And I mean part of that is likesharing that.
Now, for a long time, God waslike you know they don't need to
know I was still workingthrough a lot with the Lord
personally about it, a lot, andthen slowly, over the last few
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years and things there's justbeen.
Now it's time to tell the story.
We built the treasury, you andI built the treasury, but it's
time to tell the story.
So some of this is standingfrom a place of wanting to honor
the master.
Yeah, Because it was not verylittle of it was of my doing.
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So much of it was hisempowering grace.
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (47:50):
And your yes, yes.
Speaker 1 (47:54):
And it's like, as you know, some of it is just to
encourage people, like it's sofar beyond what you could
imagine.
The empowering grace of God,yeah, and I feel you know this
has been a hard, hard road andit continues to be.
But I feel you know this hasbeen a hard, hard road and it
continues to be.
But I feel, in a strange,beautifully complicated way,
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blessed to have experienced thisfast these facets of his nature
that I know, you know, Iwouldn't have been, I wouldn't
have gotten to encounter andexperience his strength and and
his literal, like, his physicalmaintenance of my body if I had
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not so needed it.
And the journey continues.
I was, you know it's been veryinteresting because, like, but I
guess it's been almost twoyears ago, things kind of took a
downward shift again for mephysically and they really I've
kind of been in and out of thisfor years.
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It's, you know, kind of getquiet and go under emissions,
you know whatever they kind ofwant to call it for a while, but
then it'll, you know, flare upagain and here it comes again
and um, but two years ago it'sbeen, you know, it's, it's been
even more um to process becauseI was diagnosed with a, a
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cardiac condition, that, um,they can't you know they can't
do surgery and things.
They can manage it as they saythey can, you know, just manage
it.
It has slowed me downconsiderably and so you know,
it's almost.
It's been an interesting thingwith the Lord because it seems
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like I'm kind of back at thestarting gates and it hasn't
been removed.
It's been increased whatphysically to process with Him
now and there's been kind of acompletion of possibly doing
live events and things.
But it was also, I guess, theold Caleb in me.
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I was like, hmm, the IEdiagnosis, you know, in the
physical realm, increased andI've been trained enough now by
the Lord to look around and belike, okay, he's not done yet.
You know, jesus is not done yetbecause I'm getting hit again
(50:38):
Really, yeah.
So, okay, father, you knowthere's there's been a shift in
my calling, um, an advancementpossibly in my calling.
You know, what else do you wantme to do?
What if I'm not done with myassignment here?
Speaker 2 (50:54):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (50:55):
She's so distorted.
Yeah, yeah, you know there'sanother level, there's more.
And so then, you know, thecanvas is my meeting place with
him.
You know the canvas is mymeeting place with Him and it's
been.
You know, I'm like it's of,like, you know where's your,
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where's our sweet spot with theLord?
I guess you could say, you know, where is that?
Where is the communicationeasiest?
You know, is it on a benchoutside under a tree, in
creation?
You know.
But then, like, once we findthat sweet spot, like, make it
your mission to live there.
And then, when all, when,everything breaks loose and
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while hell comes against you,you have something built with
the father.
Yes, you have that sacred spacebuilt with him.
You have that reserve because,you know, I've learned, kind of
going through this the firsttime and stuff.
I was like you know what I, man, when I didn't feel well and I
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wasn't able to get in that spacewith the Lord and our intimacy
almost was challenged, becausemy, you know, physical being was
so consumed with pain that Ilearned that when I did feel
good, I'm showing up with God,I'm showing up with Jesus, you
know, because my brain feelsclear.
Today I can, you know, Iphysically can do this today.
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So I'm showing up and so I just, you know, I began to build a
well on the good days because Iknew, you know, bad days I'm
going to need that well, I'mgoing to need that.
Those encounters with him, thoseconversations with him, those
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aren't the days that you'regoing to need the fresh stuff,
need the good stuff that you'vebuilt with him, those
relationships where you, youknow just the closeness with him
.
And so you know, even kind of,when this next next thing hit
and this new diagnosis on top ofit came and I was just like,
okay, Lord, you know, thank youfor the reserve that we have,
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thank you for um, you know, okay, I'm going to see this as
confrontation of hell, you know,uh, okay, well then let's pick
up again.
But you know, what do you wantdone?
Because nearly always, over thecourse of walking this with him
, you know, I think, as we walkmore and more with him, you, you
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and you get the warriormentality that this is.
I mean heaven and earth, or Imean heaven and hell, are very
real, yes and uh.
And if you are on a mission forthe lord, whatever that might
be, the enemy will hate you, yes, and you got to get used to
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that and you got to be watchfulfor that.
And then you have to learn howto lean into the Lord to create
the resilience and a spine ofsteel that I'm doing this, you
know.
Even it go, even if it goesdown like Job so be it.
You know, and that's some days,some days the best that I can do
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is just, you know, ask Jesus,you know, just please, come and
sit by me and let me cry, youknow.
You know, and those have beenbecome some of my sweetest
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moments where he just sits withme and lets me cry the human
tears of disappointment of itall and but then trust him in
his sovereignty, that he's.
There's something in this thatcould be more powerful.
You know, if I allow you to dothis and you had my full yes and
amen and I don't take it backIf this is part of the story to
make it this into a glory storyfor you and to make these things
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that you and I do together andcreate and release more powerful
and have more of your essencein them and more of your
character, your nature, yourbeauty, your wonder, whatever it
might be, more of you in themand less of me, then I say yes
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and I just think that's okaywith the Lord.
I mean what I've experiencedwith him.
It's okay to be disappointed.
I think sometimes that's astigma.
That's on being, you know,being ill and being well.
You just got to assume, youknow, cause I felt that at times
, especially like being in frontof people, you know, um, it
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kind of IE called into theministry it's a very unique,
different way but you knowteaching and things too, and
that you had to have it alltogether and that you really
weren't.
You know you're believing foryour healing and, yes, god can
do this, and that you don't showyour brokenness and you're not,
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and that you don't show yourbrokenness and you're not.
I think that there is actuallypower in the authenticity and
realness of like.
Look, this hurts.
I am massively disappointed.
You know this is hard, this ispainful.
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You know, emotionally,physically, mentally, this is
painful.
I'm tired, on every level.
I'm tired.
I mean, some days.
You know some days you can go,it's not.
But then other, you know youjust wake up some days and it's
just like you know all of hellseems to be, you know, smacking
(57:20):
you in the face and uh, andphysically, mentally, everything
, and um, you know it's on thosedays that you, just, you know
you go to that reserve of likewhat you've encountered and
experienced with him in thejourney and that it's okay to
like God.
I just, I I'm so disappointed.
Yes, um, this hurts.
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You know, to process to learnhow to process your pain and
your disappointment, um, yourconfusion.
You're just, you know all thethings that kind of come with
like a ongoing physical illnessand even outside of that, just
ongoing tribulation in lifeLearning how to process that
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with the spirit of counselhimself, Mm-hmm.
With the spirit of counselhimself, yes, and the spirit of
wisdom himself.
We need to do that more.
Speaker 2 (58:17):
Yeah, we need to do that more.
I feel like this is like aclarion call that you're, it's
just.
Speaker 1 (58:26):
He is a spirit of counsel, he is a spirit of
wisdom.
He's never how.
He consoles and comforts, isalways perfection.
And and even when you don'thave a clue what you need and
you're broken and you, just, youknow, I mean, there's been
times that I just, you know,yeah, usually in my studio, but
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you know, just fall on my faceand it's just, I, just I can't
even.
I look at something.
I'm like if I could just getback into that space where you
and I could do that again, liketoday I am so physically ill
that I can barely get off thefloor, you know, and and so
you're mourning in essence,you're almost kind of mourning
(59:09):
your physical body and to beable to feel and to seek the
Lord.
He will come and he willliterally gather you up and cry
with you, and that's okay.
It's okay to not hear, get upand go on, or you should be.
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You know that sometimes it issimply going to be.
He cried over Lazarus.
You know the humanity of Jesusunderstands and he's not upset
with us because we don't knowhow to process this.
You know we don't know how toprocess this.
You know we don't know how toprocess all the things that are
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happening and whateverchallenges and forms they come
in, you know, in life, and he'sokay with that and he'll teach
us how and there's no shame.
Yes, exactly.
There's no shame and there's noblame.
And you know, just like I can'teven feel anything today, jesus
, I can't even think straight.
(01:00:16):
Can I just sit here with you?
I need to just sit here withyou.
And what that does, or what ithas done for me, you know, it's
just irreplaceable.
It's irreplaceable.
There is no counselor like him,there is no spirit of
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understanding like him.
And then you know to be willingto die to self.
I think that there is a spacein the spirit and a space in
this time of history for thosewho are willing to die for the
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greater glory story, for thosewho are willing to die for the
greater glory story.
And I say die where you knowyou may be walking around,
living, you know you're walkingon the planet and you're
breathing still, but you havedied to all and sacrificed
everything.
You're willing to sacrifice,you know everything, for the
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sovereignty of the Lord Jesusand his hand on your life and
your assignment and the purposethat he has assigned you to and
to please him.
Speaker 2 (01:01:43):
You know first and foremost right.
Speaker 1 (01:01:46):
Yeah, no, it's just, you get more focused, focused.
You know, um, if you allow theprocess to happen, if you sit
with him and you're in theunknown of am I going to be
healed or am I not going to behealed, or you know, do I keep
hanging on?
Do I can't?
You know what do I even do?
Now, it's been years.
You know, if you sit with himin the process and just like god
(01:02:08):
, you've got this, I can't dealwith this anymore, you know, I
can't even.
Yeah, I don't know what the nextstep is.
I don't know how to processthis.
I don't even know what I shouldbe doing um but you have it and
and the focus that you get of,just like you know this, this
really is an entryway intolearning how to see from heaven
(01:02:33):
and earth and to see witheternal eyes.
These things will pass away,yes, but one day we will be
standing in front of Jesus.
We will be standing in front ofJesus, we will be standing in
front of the Father and we willget to have that chance of
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saying he will say job well done.
Amongst it all, you never letgo, never let go of my hem, of
the garment, because you alwaysbelieved that I could heal you.
That wasn't about that.
It wasn't about that.
Whether you believed or not,you allowed me, you sacrificed
and gave your life because youallowed me to write your story
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and you were willing to be forwhatever story that was.
You wanted it because it was mystory for you and that's what I
want to hear, because it was mystory for you and that's what I
want to hear.
You know, I guess, if anyanybody takes anything from all
of this, it's been a little bitall over the place, you know.
(01:03:44):
It's just.
It's okay to to be in a spacewith the Lord where you're
disappointed.
It's okay to be in a spacewhere you're hurting and it's
painful and you can't define itand you don't know how to move
on and the hits just keep coming.
(01:04:07):
You know of not knowing what'shappening.
You know it's okay to be inthat space and allow him to
actually encompass you and toempower you your mind, your
heart, your body, your will tokeep going, to keep pioneering,
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to keep creating, to keep living, to continue fighting for your
promised land.
Speaker 2 (01:04:43):
Yes, cody, can I share a verse that I'm hearing
just?
for you, yes, and I believe it'sfor others as well, but it's
Proverbs 31, 25 in the PassionTranslation.
It's bold power and gloriousmajesty are wrapped around her
and she laughs with joy over thelatter days and her teachings
(01:05:09):
are filled with wisdom andkindness, as loving instruction
pours from her lips.
I just feel like he wants youto know that on a deep level,
and those of you who arelistening who also have walked
through a lot and are continuingto walk through a lot.
I don't know what you'rewalking through, but I do know,
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in even my own journey theselast six months or so, that have
been more pressing than I'veexperienced in a long time To
really focus on joy and laughing.
It makes the enemy really mad.
Yes, that's one of my arrows.
(01:05:51):
I don't know, it's amazing, ohmy gosh.
Well, um, I know we need towrap up.
Um, I think we could talk, forwe literally could talk forever.
We actually talked for about anhour and a half before we got
started.
Today, Um, we'll probably haveto have you back again just to
pour out some more wisdom andkeep on with your journey.
(01:06:14):
I know that what is the bestway for people to like find you
at this point?
I'll be sure to add theinformation to the show notes.
Speaker 1 (01:06:35):
Probably just CodyRystadcom, which is
C-O-D-Y-E-R-E-Y-S-T-E-A-Dcom,and then there's a contact form
and you know they can email mefrom there.
I'm also on Instagram, not verymuch, and then on Facebook Cody
Rystad Awesome.
Speaker 2 (01:06:51):
Well, we did this last time, but I always want to
do it again.
Is there anything else thatyou'd want to speak over?
Any words of encouragement oranything else that's coming up
for you, and then would you prayus out today.
Speaker 1 (01:07:05):
Yes, abba, father, we thank you that the seven
spirits, lord, that we readabout in Isaiah, that you are
all these things, the spirit ofmight, the spirit of counsel,
the spirit of wisdom, lord, allthese access, that you are those
things and that we, as yourchildren, get to access those
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things and to lean into you andreceive those gifts to empower
us, father, to sustain us.
It's incredible and in yourgoodness, lord, we recognize
your goodness.
So, father, I just speak a holyendurance over everyone that's
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listening now, if they have seentheir promised land, and for
those who haven't, father, youare so good, you will show.
You will show, if that is intheir heart, their calling,
their destiny, that you willshow it to them, lord, and that
all that you really need is oursimple yes and amen, continually
.
And, father, I just so.
(01:08:12):
I speak a holy endurance, lord,I speak a holy comfort, like
only you can give to the heartsthat are bleeding right now from
just living this life, andthat's the things that come
against us.
Father.
I speak holy wisdom, lord God,on those that are seeking
counsel and how to continue andhow to pioneer, how to build,
how to create, how to live.
Lord God, on those that areseeking counsel and how to
continue and how to pioneer, howto build, how to create, how to
(01:08:34):
live.
Lord, god, what to do next?
Father, I just speak yourwisdom and your counsel, father,
over everyone that's listening.
Now, Lord, and I just thank youfor everything that you are.
In Jesus' name, I pray Amen.
Speaker 2 (01:08:52):
Amen.
Thank you, Cody.
Such a blessing to have youback again, and thank you again
for being a brave voice who'ssetting so many free.
I will close with the anchoringverse.
It's may the God of hope fillyou with all joy and peace in
believing, so that by the powerof the Holy Spirit, you may
abound in hope, and that'sRomans 15, 13.
(01:09:13):
So thank you again, Cody.
I'll have her contactinformation in the show notes
and I will be back with anotherepisode next week.
Thanks again, Thank you.
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