Episode 274: Superman TV Shows

Super Summer continues on this week as we start with what we are reading in the comicbook world this week:Matt:

• The New Avengers 1
• Star wars 2
• Absolute batman 9
• Aquaman 6
• super girl 2

Lauren: Deadpool and Wolverine

We covered some news (14 min), discussing the outrageously priced Galactus popcorn bucket and potential fan castings for James Gunn's Wonder Woman before moving on to the main topic.

(21min) This week we are discussing Superman TV shows breaking down fun facts and production with some of the most notorious shows featuring the Boy Scout such as Adventures of Superman
Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman
Smallville
Superman & Lois
Superman: The Animated TV Series

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:28):
Welcome back, everybody to another episode of HOPSKEI can use
your home for comic books, movies, TV shows, and typically
we feature a beer of the week. I am Matt
alongside me as always is Lauren, and today's episode is
all about Superman TV shows, as we are now inside
of uture. Yeah, we're inside a month now until Superman releases.
I hope you got your early access tickets if you
are a Prime member. Unfortunately I'm not shopping with Prime.

(00:51):
I still have it because I already paid the hundred
and something, so I use it as emergencies. But it
worked out in this situation because the family and I
and our friend Chris and his face me have a
whole row booked off at Cinemark July eighth. You see
the film, But today we're talking about things like Smallville,
Superman the animated series. If you will excuse me, so
go ahead like, subscribe, share, follow, Patreon, dot com, slash hop,
speek news if you want to support show, early access,

(01:13):
no ads, all of that good stuff. For some reason,
our ads have been messed up on spreaker lately, so weird.
But I know you're not complaining about no ads. But
my beer of the week is moon Man from Nuclear's Brewing.
I figured this was a good ipa because we're talking
Superman some more so. Nuclarius is a very popular, very
big brewery. Shout out to Pat, one of our patreons,
for sending me this. And then, of course we always
go into beer, we go into our reading or watching

(01:35):
our news and main topic. So that out of the way, Lauren,
what's up?

Speaker 2 (01:39):
Not much? How are you so my beer is a
Darth jar Jar or Misa Sith because I couldn't find.

Speaker 1 (01:46):
Somewhere to God if you drink all of those before
I get to at least just look at the can
with my own two eyes.

Speaker 2 (01:51):
I got two more four packs, so you're good. But
you know we're gonna be talking TV Superman and well
you know he goes a little dark side sometimes, just
like jar jarvings. So we all go a little dark
side of time. So that's why I picked this beer
in because it's delicious and I wanted to drink it.

Speaker 1 (02:06):
That is true, I can only I mean, it's a
delicious looking hazy and it's tactical, so I mean, I
mean they've always got right, I mean, I mean.

Speaker 2 (02:15):
And they're about to drop a I don't know if. Yeah,
they probably have alread dropped it at this point of
Breaking Bad Beer and I got so excited. But it's
a sour, but it's going to be like a blue sour,
so it makes sense. However, they should be careful because
Knee Deep Brewing. You remember they had the Breaking Bad Beer.
It was I think a double idea. AMC sent them as.

Speaker 1 (02:33):
Well, tell them we got we got an ind you
review all of Dead City for them, so maybe you
can put in a good word. I don't know. Sure, Hey, listen,
we are Yeah, that's how that he's over there. But yeah,
we've been perfect little angels. Or maybe people just stopped
listening to us, so we still don't have anything that
we've messed up or looked into. I'm gonna go ahead
and say it.

Speaker 2 (02:51):
With Timothy Tims. What did he message me about recently?
I can't remember now, but.

Speaker 1 (02:55):
It was he was at wrestling recently, which is cool.
I think he was at wrestling recently. Maybe I was
making that up, God was I definitely think it was. Anyways,
I do like wrestling, and so let's go into what
we've been reading or watching. So this week, my comics man,
I gotta I gotta let you know right now because
I got the hard copy right here, Absolute Batman issue
number nine. Lord, have mercy on your soul's children, because

(03:16):
Bain is a common Bain is a common brothers and sisters.
And you know, oh yeah, there's a new uh you
get it if you get this issue. There's a preview
for Crypto issue one coming out next to you. So
that's what that is. Yes, there is Crypto at the end.
I spoiled the end. I'm sorry, but man, Paul, you know,
put put chef in front of Scott Snyder's name, because

(03:37):
this man is cooking, absolutely cooking in the kitchen with
what he's doing. And you know, when there's Bain coming
into play, it's probably gonna end up bad for Batman.
And so you can only imagine that. Nick Drigatta, Frank Martin,
you know, they are doing amazing and God that that
issue is so good. You got to read it. It's
it's fantastic. This whole run is amazing, which leads me
into my next one, Aquaman Equaman number six. This one,

(04:00):
you know, Jeremy Adams.

Speaker 2 (04:01):
One of my favorite.

Speaker 1 (04:05):
Sorry because Supernatural mm hm is such a good that's awesome,
and so if you haven't listened to that, go back
and listen to that whole episode. Really great stuff with Jeremy.
But Aquaman issue six, this is the calm before the Storm.
It seems as though things are about to kick off
in the next issue with Diggan and Michael Leffler takes
over some art, but you know, still got Rex Locus

(04:27):
out there and Jeremy Adams. So this is really vibrant.
I love the way that within the artwork and it
can be hard to draw underwater sequences, I feel like,
but they make it very seamless and it doesn't miss
a beat. But John Tim's is still working the cover
on this issue, and the cover is just vibrant. It's
very bright orange. Arthur is amazing. I'm so in love
with this run. It's such an adventure. Uh, they're with

(04:48):
Nemo still and they have to stop off for supplies,
which pretty much in video game terms. They see a
save hit save button up in the top quarter. It's
automatic saving, which you know that means nothing good is
about to happen. And so Calm before the Storm if
you will. But Supergirl number two.

Speaker 2 (05:05):
Episode real quick though, if you are enjoying this comic,
or you loved any of what Matt was just saying,
go back to that episode with Jeremy Adams because it
was such a great interview about Aquaman and Scooby Natural's
mother Supernatch episodes. But the Aquaman, I just I love, love,
love that you're getting Captain Nemo And what spawned the
idea was he was at Disneyland in like Japan and
twenty under the Sea ride inspired that, So I freaking

(05:25):
love that. Go there and get more fun facts about
the comic.

Speaker 1 (05:27):
You know we loved Disney tell you you know, I
just know that all means it's exciting. When you get excited,
that's because me, you know me, I'm usually always like
a puppy. That's great. So when you're showing the excitement,
that's how you know it was real, folks, That's how
you know it was real. But Supergirl number two, Sophie
Campbell Becka carry you know this is I'm really enjoying
this one. It's more of an identity crisis for the

(05:48):
false Supergirl, if you will, and there's a lot of
play into the lore behind Kara, and she even teams
up with Lena Luther as well, and the colors are great.
She's in Midvale. It's it's a very softer it's not
as vivid artistically as you would see with the Aquaman
and stuff, but that's okay because it fits the theme
of what Supergirl is and surprisingly enough, it's very good

(06:09):
and has adult themes, like I said, finding yourself, identity crisis,
things of that nature. So I really recommend that one
and then two more things. You got to check out
Star Wars issue number two. Alex Saghara is writing that,
and I love it because Luke Skywalker always just goes
off on an adventure, but we're getting more Jedi lore.
I mean, he's off finding a real there's something to

(06:30):
do with Jedi lore and anytime we can get more force,
Jedi halcrons, artifacts, things of that nature. And Alex really
captures the childlike because this is right after Return of
the Jedi, so you know, Luke's still kind of that
childlike wonder, but he's also badass at the same time,
so it's.

Speaker 2 (06:45):
Kind of like around the Mandalorian time.

Speaker 1 (06:47):
Yeah, but before I want to say it's before, well,
it's before I think the Mandalori because this is this
is fresh. I think the battle of Jeda had happened recently,
so yeah, I would say it's it's kind of in
that timeframe. It makes sense about that because I gotta
remember when Mandel took place.

Speaker 2 (07:00):
Well, he showed up at season finale of two, I.

Speaker 1 (07:02):
Believe, Yeah, so he still worked. Luke right now is
still work with the New Republic. He has this new temple,
you know, Jedi temple or anything yet, so this is
probably slightly before all of that, but same general area. However,
the very last comic I want to talk about real
quick is one that has me really excited and buzzing
as well. It's the New Avengers. So Sam Humphreys, Tom
Lima Rain Burrito, they are on this one, and it's

(07:24):
got Bucky, it's got Natasha. But we also have Laura
Kenney in this issue.

Speaker 2 (07:28):
As we loving her Wolverine Run right now.

Speaker 1 (07:31):
Well, her introduction is her just slicing and dicing and
putting her claws to heads, and she's like this goth
emo type teenager and Bucky's like, look man, She's basically
doesn't want to go with them because she's I don't
belong with the Avengers and BUCkies. It's not that kind
of pal we're here to all right, we need you,
and I picked you specifically because we're here to kill
people and mess some things up. And so this leads

(07:52):
him to his next person that he recruits, Nomore, which
is really funny. Yeah, and so No More shows up
and he's very why are you wasting my time, Barnes,
I'm not going to go hang out with the Avengers
or no, he says, I'm not hanging out with the
Thunderbolts because if you're calling on me, I deserve to
be with Avengers. And so basically he gets recruited, and
there's others but we don't see them yet, and there's

(08:13):
clones of these Avengers. So you have a clone of
No More, which is this big octopus squid thing. Bolt
Black Bolt shows up too, and you're just basically, oh crap,
what is going to happen now? So it's Natasha and
Bucky kind of thin get the freak on as well.
So you're a part of that. I like that too. Actually,
it's one that makes a lot of sense to all

(08:34):
the things that they've been through, you know, and so
it's it's actually really good. I think you personally would
really enjoy that issue. So I recommend that you read
that one because I think it's the one that you
would really read or enjoy. But that's what I've read
before I go into the one thing I've been watching.
Why don't you talk about your review?

Speaker 2 (08:50):
I have been reviewing as many comics I've been reviewing,
like Dead City and doing the book club. So the
only I don't have this week's but I have lot
last or Last months number five that la by Benjamin.
So this is I feel like every issue, either Wolverine
or Deadpool are being mind controlled. So it's like they
go back and forth, and you get a little bit
of their going back and forth together. But I feel
like ben Percy does a great job of giving us

(09:10):
those classic Wolverine lines being sick of Deadpool, and those
classic Deadpool obnoxious lines, you know, just being besties with Wolvy.
But it's not the overlying story. There's still so much
going on. There is a character that I don't even
want to say who he was revealed as, because it's
such a huge character that everybody who's big into Marvel
would know. And you see why Wolverine's being brainwashed and
why he's being controlled, and it's just it's it's very

(09:33):
like at first it was like there's too many things
going on, and now they're starting to like wind together.
So maybe next okay, that's you. I will say who
the big big bad.

Speaker 1 (09:40):
I love Ben Percy man out. Yeah, the dude, honestly,
Ben Percy. I'll get to him in a minute. I'm
I'm gonna wrap. Well, this kind of leads into actually
what Ben Percy has really relevant? So Predator Killer of
Killers I watch that. That's like the one big thing
I watched this week. It was that came out on Hulu.
I have the you know, the Hulu Disney Plus ESPN
Plus subscription because it's five dollars more than just paying

(10:01):
for Disney Plus premium. So I walked back, did some ads.
Who Cares and it's an animated you know Dan Tracksberg
who did Pray. He's in this animated world and it's
really fun because you go through different generations. There's the
Viking one, there's a feudal samurai and then a World
War two pilot who gets they get taken to the
Predator yatcha their planet and they have to kill each other.

(10:25):
And the Killer of Killers because you each killed a
predator and now we're going to take you and go
do this. And so that's the basic premise of what
this is about. Animation top notch amazing. The kills are amazing,
the story, the way that the lore plays into it amazing.
And so this leads into Ben Percy because I was like, dude,
I can't wait to see what he thinks about it,
because if you know anything about Ben Percy, he's been writing,

(10:46):
you know, Wolverine Versus Predator, he did Black Panther Versus Predator,
now Spider Man Versus Predator, so he's very much steeped
into the predator lore and so I had to hear
what he had to say, and he just posted a
review on his social media. But it's really cool. So
if you want to more Predator, Ben Percy is your guy.
Go read those Predator verses. And I think he did
Predator kills the Marvel universe as well. Get your fill

(11:07):
in there because it's worth every little bit. And Spider
Man first Predators only on Issue too. They just wrapped
up Issue too this past month, so there's still plenty
of time to catch up there, and you don't have
to read one first. They don't really read like that,
but they are very much worth your time to read
if you're into this kind of stuff. So that's kind
of what I watched and led into Ben Percy. So
that's what I have.

Speaker 2 (11:26):
So the only thing I watched this past week was
Dead City episode seven. I don't know, I'm not even
going to try to say the name of this episode,
but so this is the penultimate episode, so we only
have one left after this, and this one was actually
one of my favorites this season because it had a
lot of it was going back and forth between me
and Magan. Magan Maggie. They're seeing things that I am, Magan,

(11:47):
but like you're having just as hard a time telling
what's real as they are. So it's kind of like
a little bit of a mind efford.

Speaker 1 (11:53):
Oh this sounds familiar.

Speaker 2 (11:56):
But they also, at this point, for the first time ever,
they both really have this same goal, and that is
to save their loved ones, save their kids. And but
you know, hershel Is is very much so not what
you would expect Maggie and Glenn's kid to be. So
he's rebelling, rebelling in a way that I guess you
can only rebel in the apocalypse. But it's been. It's

(12:16):
been very interesting, more than one, and I'm looking forward
to being able to talk about the finale and where
that goes from there, if it goes, because the Walking
Dead universe isn't going anywhere, whether or not the show
Forever tell their ninety till till.

Speaker 1 (12:34):
Till till Darrel's ninety, because he is the one that's
there still.

Speaker 2 (12:39):
I believe that show got picked up for another season
or is filming the I don't remember.

Speaker 1 (12:45):
Till Maggie's ninety till Megan's ninety till Daryl's nine.

Speaker 2 (12:48):
We'll see if they all survived. They got to start
killing off some of them. I don't know.

Speaker 1 (12:53):
We'll see I don't know, all right.

Speaker 2 (12:55):
Killing people that it stops being good.

Speaker 1 (12:57):
That's true. That's true. So what's go dive into some
of the news. Well, actually, before news, let's go hear
about comics on coffee real quick, and then we'll be
right back with some news. Anyways, we're back. Yes, there's
only a few pieces of news. So I want to
start off with the fact that the Galactys popcorn bucket's
gonna be eighty dollars and it's gonna light up. However,

(13:17):
they really think us nerds are gonna buy just about anything,
which they're not totally wrong. Eighty dollars, I don't think
so in this economy, I don't know. I'm probably sitting
this one out. I don't care if I'm still got
regal bucks. You don't stay rich by blowing your money
on eighty dollars popcorn. It's like, come on, like it's
just gonna sit behind me and look good in the camera.

(13:39):
That whatever.

Speaker 2 (13:40):
Right, Well, It's like I have quite a lot of
popcorn buckets. I got Figment right here behind me. But
it's like I like the ones outside of Figment don't
pay attention to him that are a little more subtle
that I can like, Like, I'm big on the sippers.
Like in the kitchen, I have sippers all around the
top of my kitchen, but they're all, oh yeah yeah.
It's like orange bird is next to some flow blended
and crush is next to like a nice plate with
this sea turtle. My jawas are next to my growlers.

Speaker 1 (14:03):
Good point at your house. I've I've seen them, but
I've never you've and you've told me that they're sippers,
but I always never they do blend in. I don't
pay attention to the fact that you have them there.
I guess because they fit the theme and they do
blend in so well with your house. So I never
really like.

Speaker 2 (14:21):
Big on the outside of my bar area. I like
the subtle Disney. It's like if you look at the
wild painting the living room aerials in it. So I
like that.

Speaker 1 (14:29):
Listen I got. I had no room for the Disney
Castle as it is behind me, so I'm like out
of space. Man, I I don't know. I can't add
space to the other wall because people are going to
sleep there when they visit, and I don't have a
whole other house. I can't put anything in my bedroom.
So I'm interested to see how much popcorn is this
bucket actually gonna hold? Very curious. You better eat two

(14:52):
large popcorns that at least get your money's worth if
that's score mat popcorn.

Speaker 2 (14:58):
Yeah, can you take take it to Regal and at
like two dollars fills like you can with the Disney
popcorn buckets, That's what I'm.

Speaker 1 (15:03):
Very I think you probably can. I mean, or at
least while you're sitting there, you should be able to
get refilled. So you probably got to refill that bad.
But I'm it's seventeen and a half inches tall, so
I'm curious, like how much popcorn is in there? Very curious.

Speaker 2 (15:15):
Probably none. They're probably like, oh the popcorn separate.

Speaker 1 (15:17):
Sorry, sorry, you got to pay another ten bucks for popcorn,
and then refills are fifteen bucks after that, and it's, man,
what are we doing? You know? Actually I just paid
for a movie for the first time, speaking of Superman,
I paid for to see Superman. Got my money at
cinemak because I'm not cinemark rich. You have me have
four people. I just paid seventy five dollars for four

(15:39):
of us for the tickets to adults.

Speaker 2 (15:42):
I paid over fifty for two because the only one
in the theater right near me was four d And
I didn't even realize. They're just like, oh wow, it's over.

Speaker 1 (15:50):
As, Oh my god, you're gonna get Lex Luthor's gonna
come out and literally kick you coming.

Speaker 2 (15:55):
Taddy's coming with me. So because Josh did not want
to go, and he's like, if you really want me
to all go, and so I went ahead and bought
two tickets and the I text, I was like, hey,
it's on Tuesday.

Speaker 1 (16:02):
Do you want the Worst Captain America? Then I could
have he could have Worst Captain America. Tank.

Speaker 2 (16:06):
Oh my god.

Speaker 1 (16:07):
Yeah, right, well it's funny.

Speaker 2 (16:09):
Even he doesn't know. When we saw Avengers Age of
Ultron a million years ago, my husband wore a Superman
shirt to that and it was like right before Batman
Verus Superman came out.

Speaker 1 (16:18):
It's it's good and yeah forty eight that movie is
gonna beat you up and I can't. You're there always
a glactest platform hold not for your life.

Speaker 2 (16:25):
It's gonna be so cold because they're gonna put the
wind on every time he's flying, so I'm gonna have to.

Speaker 1 (16:29):
Make sure to please breath. They're really going to come
out and just shoot you's ray gun.

Speaker 2 (16:34):
I always turned the water off, and I remember I
saw too.

Speaker 1 (16:37):
I hate that.

Speaker 2 (16:38):
Yeah, I don't know why they have that. It seems gross.
But like in Ghostbusters, we saw the ice one and
Brielle kept turning my patter back on to the point
to where I had to go from like haha, you're
so funny to knock it out, Like I had to
switch to moms in the middle of the movie.

Speaker 1 (16:50):
I know, one more time, they're gonna come out. They're
gonna throw Krypton. Actually, anytime he gets hit the crypt
and I are rocks, They're gonna start throwing rocks at you.

Speaker 2 (16:57):
I'm suddenly gonna feel very weak. They put like nausea
inducing fumes in there.

Speaker 1 (17:02):
My gosh, I'm extremely excited. But yeah, I forgot how
expensive movies are because of this is the first time
I've paid for a movie since like twenty twenty one.
So first world problems, I guess. Anyways, what are the
news do you have?

Speaker 2 (17:14):
Is that all the news we have? Oh, an animated
spinoff is coming, so that's fun.

Speaker 1 (17:18):
Yeah, it is getting another six.

Speaker 2 (17:21):
See yeah today.

Speaker 1 (17:24):
Apparently Tom King is one of the people writing the movie,
which his Wonder Woman run is very divisive amongst fans.

Speaker 2 (17:30):
So, oh, is he writing it? I figured it was
just inspired by that run.

Speaker 1 (17:34):
No, I thought he was writing it. I would have
to fact check it. I have no idea she was
writing it. Do you have a pick for who? They
don't haven't cast. So gal Gado's probably out there punching
the Palestinian child right now.

Speaker 2 (17:47):
But we're having another baby, doesn't she have? Like?

Speaker 1 (17:50):
Probably mad as hell? I think she is. But you know,
do you have a great wonder woman?

Speaker 2 (17:55):
I thought the second one sucked, but I thought she
was a great wonder woman in the first one. I
don't think she's somebody that I was like. I can
never see anybody else playing her. I really like and
I didn't come up with as somebody else had suggested
it or asked. Or was the actress who played Bix
from and Or. I think that she would be really good.
Like we saw her acting chops were phenomenal. I'm sure
she could probably do some badass moves. You saw her
do some badass moves in and Or, and she's freaking

(18:17):
dropped at gorgeous.

Speaker 1 (18:18):
Like no, like she's her. She's a great pick. I
liked her. Or the actress who played Cleia. She has
a lot of range. I feel like her range, and
she had that ferocinity, but also that that sternness and
that badass woman field too. I know this is part
of a recency bias, and it's going to be somebody
that who knows, but those would be two good picks.
I also thought the girl who played Mary Marvel and

(18:40):
Shizam I I she would be my pick because I
liked her a lot in those movies, and I thought
she kind of carried herself as a superhero pretty well.
But I'm curious to see if they go for somebody
lesser known or who they have in mind. If they're starting,
and I imagine probably right Comic Con is we might
get a casting announcement since they're going to haul my guess.

(19:01):
I don't know David.

Speaker 2 (19:03):
Korn Sweet, I have no idea what anything else Horn sweat.

Speaker 1 (19:06):
Yeah, I I don't really know what he's been in obviously.
Rachel Brosnahan, I know her from Marvelous. Yeah, yeah, it's
not a household. But then, of course I mean Nicholas
Hoholet we know him from just about everything and anything,
and he's amazing. So I don't know. I guess we'll see,
wait and see. But late news week, so if you
don't mind, go take another ide break and get paid

(19:28):
one penny per listen. So thanks to Lauren's mom for
this penny. We'll be back in a second. All right, guys,
buckle up, it's Superman Adventure time now. I just want
to preface this because one of the TV shows we
talk about does involve Dean Kane, and Dean Kane's a Dickhead.
So screw that guy. He sucks.

Speaker 2 (19:46):
Because it was such a prominent and he's Kara's dad
in the arro.

Speaker 1 (19:53):
You do have to mention this show because he is
such he was one of the aside from Christopher Eve,
he is like the other super He can never fill
Christopher Reeves. First of all, I don't.

Speaker 2 (20:05):
Feel like he even makes like top five live action Superman.

Speaker 1 (20:08):
No he's not. But he was the definitive Superman of
you know, the nineties, nineties. That's for the longest time,
that's who you thought of. I mean, that's what that's
what got him big.

Speaker 2 (20:19):
Really well, he was my first Superman. That's him. Terrible.

Speaker 1 (20:23):
Oh but anyways, all right, so let's kick it off
with anyways.

Speaker 2 (20:29):
Yeah, so there are a lot of things on TV
that Superman has played that we're not going to cover.
So we're going to cover the main ones that We're
going to kick off with Adventures of Superman from nineteen
fifty two to fifty eight, which you can watch on Prime.
So this is starring George Reeves, not Reeve. Reeves, not
related to Chris.

Speaker 1 (20:45):
Do you remember watching this on TV when you were
a kid?

Speaker 2 (20:48):
Fuck up? Oh don't. We're trying not to curt.

Speaker 1 (20:50):
It's really hard. That's our one.

Speaker 2 (20:53):
No, this movie, this whole show aired before my mom
was even born. Okay, so half this series is black
and white and half as color. And when it was
black and white, the Superman costume was brown for red,
gray for blue, and white for yellow, which I thought
was so cool, interesting, And obviously afterwards they went to.

Speaker 1 (21:10):
The Wars brown pants.

Speaker 2 (21:13):
Oh man, how did ime is that? Joe? Good job, right?
So this series lasted, it last quit a few years.
It did pretty good. He actually appeared. George Reeves appeared
as Superman in Lucy and Superman, an episode of I
Love Lucy that aired in January of nineteen fifty seven,
and in the episode, Reeves appears as himself playing TV Superman.
Then in nineteen fifty four, I thought this fun fact

(21:34):
was funny because it made me think of the Captain
America PSAs from Spider Man. So in nineteen fifty four,
the US Treasury Department asked a short film be made
to promote school saving stamps plans to children and was
shown in grade schools, and it featured Superman, Lois Lane
and Jimmy Olson. But it just I feel like that's
probably where they got that from, was doing things like this.

Speaker 1 (21:53):
Well you know it's like war bonds. No, I mean
maybe actually from that, but I mean how many people
I think they actually did parade act and actresses around. Granted,
in the forties, I don't know how prominent it was.
Is more of like Broadway musical and all that kind
of stuff like Judy Garlands of the Universe out there
parading around. But as movie became, especially during Vietnam and stuff,
Granted you didn't really need war bonds then, but you

(22:13):
always hear these celebrities going. And now even USO tours
are a thing. You know, whenever you're deployed, you get
so who knows, I had Conan O'Brien come out. I
met Connan O'Brien. So get your war bonds kids, think
of the stink of the back the girls.

Speaker 2 (22:27):
Yeah. So there were two women to play Lois in this,
Phyllis Coates and Noel Neil both later played Lois's mother.
Neil played her in Superman nineteen seventy eight, but it's
not a credited thing. She doesn't actually speak, but it's
like that's Lois's mom. And then Coates played Lois's mom
and Lois and Clark. Obviously that was a much bigger part.
That's cool, Ron, So I did actually watch the first episode.

(22:50):
I always try to do the you know, the on
because you can pay for it on Prime, but you
can also get that. I had like those free credits,
which I highly recommend.

Speaker 1 (22:57):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I have it ship.

Speaker 2 (22:59):
Later and whatever. So in this first episode, Darrell suggests
just sending his wife in the Stace ship, not his son.
So he was gonna let the baby die, I guess,
and Laura was like, no, we should send the baby,
and he's like, oh okay, And it's so obvious there
is nothing in the blanket. It is so obvious.

Speaker 1 (23:17):
It's like a flat like American sniper where he's holding
a blatant baby that's a baby doll, and it's not.
It is always weird because you can always tell when
somebody has weight in their arms.

Speaker 2 (23:27):
Yes, oh wow, but this wasn't even a baby doll.
Yeah yeah, you could tell. It was like just something
in there. And then they did a zoom in of
a baby's face. But even when the not Martha Martha
was holding the baby. Later, I'll get to that a
minute okay. So Darrell then says he thinks that the
model couldn't could handle both of them, but Laura says, no,
I can't go to another planet without you. So she
sends her infant son in it, and they just shoot

(23:48):
this freaking rocket around, like, okay, this is why I
cannot see.

Speaker 1 (23:54):
No mother would actually do that.

Speaker 2 (23:56):
Away exactly, No mother on her mind would do that
home alone.

Speaker 1 (24:00):
Man, I just love that logic. I can't leave you.
But the baby, I'm not really attached. He's like three
months old. I'm not very attached to this.

Speaker 2 (24:08):
I can't live on a planet without my husband. What
will people think?

Speaker 1 (24:11):
Here's you'll find there's more dudes out there. But whatever,
I know, and you.

Speaker 2 (24:18):
Would have superpowers to come on, I know the first Supergirl,
you idiot. So Martha is actually named Sarah and this
and Jonathan was even because Jonathan and Martha don't become
the consistent names until the super Boy comics, and that's
why we only know them.

Speaker 1 (24:33):
Superman comics.

Speaker 2 (24:34):
Actually when they're you know, you first go to the
Daily Planet and Clark's trying to get a job. You
see Perry and he's like on the phone, and but
it's so funny because instead of it being like a
different lines and ringing or a cell phone, it's like
four or five different just like black rotary phones. And
he's like, oh no, he slams and he fix another one.

Speaker 1 (24:51):
It's like in the sixties Batman where the batphone is
just blinking a red light and he picks it up. There.

Speaker 2 (24:56):
Yeah, but it's like he can't lines. They have multiple lines, okay,
so well, so they did have a very cliche opening
where we still say a lot of these lines today,
and while this has changed a bit and later scenes,
each episode opened with Bill Kennedy narrating over the show's
theme music, which they're using in the new movie, well
like a little bit of it. So it was expanded
from the nineteen forties radio show of from the Superman

(25:18):
cartoons Wait Waite Radio Show and the nineteen forty Superman cartoons.
So super Man was already pretty much a household name.
So Kellogg, the greatest name in cereals, presents the adventures
of Superman. So this is how every episode started. Faster
than a speeding bullet, more powerful than a mighty locomotive,
able to leap tall buildings at a single bound. Look up,
or look up in the sky. It's a bird, it's
a plane, it's Superman.

Speaker 1 (25:39):
Yes, it's super underwear over his pants.

Speaker 2 (25:41):
Good God, when are we going to stop doing that? Yes,
it's Superman, strange visitor from another planet who came to
Earth with powers and abilities bar beyond those of mortal men.
Superman who can change the course of mighty rivers, bend
steel in his bare hands, and who disguised as Clark Kent,
mild mannered reporter for a great metropolitan newspaper, fighting never
ending battle for truth, justice in the American way. And
now they're exciting episode in the Adventures of Superman.

Speaker 1 (26:04):
That was good. I had a lot of radio vibe
to it. I could see that the killer job there.

Speaker 2 (26:09):
I hope my wife I didn't cop out then. So
this was crazy, very sadly, this is my last not
fun fact for this show. George Reeves actually died via
gun shot in nineteen fifty nine. It was ruled a suicide,
but many claimed that it was not that. After his death,
the producers considered continuing this series with Jimmy Olsen becoming
the main character and including stock footage of Reeves as Superman. However,

(26:32):
the actor who played Jimmy Jack Larson. He was like, no,
I don't want to do that.

Speaker 1 (26:36):
Yeah, I don't blame him. That'd be very weird.

Speaker 2 (26:39):
So if you want to watch this, you can rent
it for money on Prime and fan Dango at home.

Speaker 1 (26:45):
Interesting. You know one thing that's always bothered me about
Superman is this dude is a powerful alien. He chooses
to get a job and pay TAXI.

Speaker 2 (26:53):
Pay his rent. We just want to rob a bank.

Speaker 1 (26:56):
He has again the role of Antarctica truth.

Speaker 2 (27:02):
Justice in the American way. He's gotta buy foods. You
can't just eat ice.

Speaker 1 (27:06):
He's Superman. He moves faster than a speeding bullet.

Speaker 2 (27:10):
That's not going to pay for his dates with Lois. Listen,
he's not gonna save his parents farm.

Speaker 1 (27:16):
Well, it clearly didn't save Martha, all right, nobody could
save Martha. She did anyways, all right, Leis and Clark.
The New Adventures of Superman. Now, this was from nineteen
ninety three to nineteen ninety seven on ABC. This was
the one where, obviously you know that piece of trash. However,
it was only six years after Christopher Reeve last played Superman.
It stars Dean Kane as Superman which is funny because

(27:39):
he's very not much anyways. Terry Hatcher as Lois Lane. Yes, folks,
the Terry Hatcher. This series focused a lot on the
romantic relationship with Lois as much as it did on
Superman's adventures. This was a first for Superman, but of
course it would not be the last. Because this series
starts on the day that a twenty seven year old
Clark moves to Metropolis after leaving his position as a
newspaper editor of Smallville. He interviews for a job at

(28:01):
the Daily Planet under editor Perry White. Clark becomes acquainted
with photographer Jimmy Olsen and gossip Colum and columnists Geez
Kat Grant, and of course meets Lewis Lane. I loved
Kat Grant and the Supergirl TV show.

Speaker 2 (28:14):
I forget her, Yes.

Speaker 1 (28:16):
That's who it was. Yes, Kat Grant's going to be
in the Superman movie, which I didn't realize until there's
a character poster for her. I forget who's playing her.
But she's going to be in the movie, which I
think is pretty cool, nice and so. At first, Kane
was believed to be too young. Interesting. The casting person said,
we're casting Superman, not super Boy. However, his scene with
Jonathan Kent talking about how he doesn't fit in got

(28:37):
him the role. Kane later voiced Jonathan Kent and the
DC Superhero Girls, played doctor Curtis Knox in Smallville, and
he also played Supergirl's dad in this ew Supergirl and
the Show. They made Clark a fan of the Buffalo
Bills because you know, Superman loves pain. He loved watching
the Bills go to four straight super Bowls and lose
four straight super Bowls. And it's actually because Dan Kane

(28:59):
actually played for them, which might explain why he's just
such a terrible person now, because you don't go to
four super Bowls, lose four super Bowls, and come out
on skates, folks. Superman's hair now often looks wet because
they had to really paste it down when he flew,
so it wasn't going in true Oh sorry.

Speaker 2 (29:16):
Just look like Ross now.

Speaker 1 (29:19):
Chicago was the skyline for Metropolis in this as opposed
to New York City like we normally see in the
Reeves movies. And in true Lois Lane fashion, Terry Hatcher
later played Lois's mom in Smallville, So if you ever
want to play Ella Lane, get the job. As Lowis. First,
does this mean we're going to see Rachel Brosnahan as
Lois's mom eventually?

Speaker 2 (29:38):
Maybe? First we have to do what was the one
from Smallville Erica?

Speaker 1 (29:41):
Ah, we'll get there, yes, now. According to executive producer
Bat brad Buckner, the baby that Lois Lane Brad and
Clark Kent found on their doorstep in the series finale
was supposed to be Kryptonian Royalty. Had they gone to
a season five, the storyline was supposed to be Lewis
and Clark protecting the baby from a potential assassin and don't.

Speaker 2 (30:01):
Have to do the baby.

Speaker 1 (30:03):
Yeah. Now, lots of places you can watch this such
as HBO whatever we're calling that now, Hulu, Roco, Roku,
excuse me, Amazon, YouTube, and for purchase elsewhere. Speaking of which,
HBO is splitting into Warner Brothers Discovery. That's when piece
of news. I forgot they're splitting into two companies. Why.
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (30:18):
So, I don't even know what anything means anymore. What
is they're not even Warner Brothers Anymore's still around?

Speaker 1 (30:25):
I don't know. I I genuinely have no idea. I
don't know.

Speaker 2 (30:29):
So, speaking of the WB and CW Somebody Me So
small Bill from two.

Speaker 1 (30:35):
Thousand, but this was a banger of intro.

Speaker 2 (30:40):
I binged this whole series what like two years ago,
year and a half ago, probably two years ago. I
flew through this thing. I remember like watching it while
I'm parked in the car line waiting to get the
kids like on the phone, because.

Speaker 1 (30:50):
I was this is the perfect time to obviously post
our photograph with Superman himself.

Speaker 2 (30:56):
I already posted it on TikTok promoting You've got your
Man and Supernatural.

Speaker 1 (31:01):
You got to promote it with the the Smallville. Here
we met Superman himself. Granted of issues, but you know,
we met Superman himself.

Speaker 2 (31:08):
As long as nobody died and he learned from his.

Speaker 1 (31:10):
Mistakes, very true.

Speaker 2 (31:12):
I ast that so yeah, he does seem like a
very nice guy. And if you like the show, check
out Talkville podcast. Some of my fun facts are actually
from listening to Talkville. It got me through my twenty
hour drive home from Maine last year.

Speaker 1 (31:23):
I don't know why I thought you were about to
say it got you to your twenties.

Speaker 2 (31:25):
I was like, what what the show came out in
one of the.

Speaker 1 (31:31):
Show I was it coming out in your twenties, so
I was like, yeah, I.

Speaker 2 (31:35):
Wasn't even in my twenties when the show came out.
I was eighteen. So this is, of course not a
story about Superman. This is a story about Clark Kent.
It kicks off when he is fifteen and in high school.
Of course he's twenty four in real life. It starts
Tom Welling as Clerk, Michael Rosenbaum as Lex and that
o'tool is Martha who played Lana Lang in the Third
Superman movie with Christopher Reeve and many many more, including

(31:56):
Jensen acle Well. The show follows Clark through high school
and immediately after the no one jumps to him as
Superman when he's about thirty, and this is the only
scene we see of Tom Welling in tights, and it's
very cgi. He specifically had in his contracts no flights,
no tights. Throughout this series, it shows how why he didn't.
He repeatedly said he was not Superman. He was playing
Clark Kent. He was always very adamant about that. So

(32:18):
they actually do not have him fly like I think
in the first episode of the first season you see
him like levitate on the bed, but he never flies
that's so long. See you see a couple of moments
like that scene. I think he talked about this at
Mega Con. The scene where you it's like a gift
of him pulling a shirt open and you see the Superman.
He said that that's all he was wearing, was like

(32:38):
the shirt under He had nothing else on and he
just pulls it out, so like he was just he
didn't want to do the tights. I want to do
the flights. Like he was there to tell the Clark
Kent story, which I think was honestly brilliant. I love it.

Speaker 1 (32:49):
Okay, I don't know. Okay, I had mixed feelings, but
I I'm not attached to the show, so what do
I know.

Speaker 2 (32:53):
I also remember, like I knew they were about to
show him so Superman, and I'm like, please don't have
the unders, Please don't have the underus because I very
attractive man, and he had the stupid under rus and
I was like, oh, you just ruined it. It's not suck,
So okay, at least this Superman. I'm older, then this
will be the first no I think. I mean, I
think I'm a couple of years older than Tyler.

Speaker 1 (33:12):
It could be worse. Because what's her name, uh, Alison Mack.
I mean her. She ended up in jail for a
sex cult. So it's not like that was worse than
the end of rus.

Speaker 2 (33:23):
I feel like she was manipulated. I don't know that
whole time.

Speaker 1 (33:26):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (33:27):
They're very kind about her when she comes up on
the podcast, I will say that they're very kind, but
they also don't ignore what she kind of became because
she's phenomenal in this show. If you haven't watched it
and you go back, Chloe is a prominent part of
the show from season one to the very last episode.
She does a great job her I mean she can
act her ass off. Her dialogue was never easy. She
did a great job. It's really kind of sad, but

(33:48):
you know, who knows what actually happened? Where was I okay?
So throughout this series it actually shows how so many
people were impacted by the Meteors that came to Earth
the day Clerk arrived, many getting powers, and some were killed,
like Lona Lange's parents. Jonathan is alive for a good
chunk of the show. However, they constantly make it every
season like he's going to die. Very similar to the
scenes of the guy with one arm and hot tub

(34:09):
time machine, because you know don guy. So every single
season you're like, you coulda done, is this? Is this
What's going to happen? But he lives longer than you expect.
So Jostham was actually played by John Schneider, who is
in the original Duke's to Hazard. The show allowed for
a mini reunion of that show with Tom Wolputt, complete
with some fast driving, and I thought it was actually
a really cute nod.

Speaker 1 (34:29):
All right.

Speaker 2 (34:29):
Terrence Stamp plays Jorell in this and he is also
Zod in Superman nineteen seventy eight.

Speaker 1 (34:36):
Yeah. Fancy as here with this fancy little clothes and jumper. Yeah. Man.

Speaker 2 (34:42):
So here's a fun fact that drove me nuts and
I had to discover on my own. Aaron and Sean
Ashmore are identical twins. You know them from many things
like The Boys, X Men, Smallville. They're both in Yeah. However,
they play very different roles, and again I emphasize identical twins.
Aaron played Jimmy Olsen and Sean played Eric Summers much

(35:04):
earlier on in the show Who Was Evil. They make
zero mention that they look familiar, and it was very
confusing to me when you first meet Jimmy Olsen and
Chloe is happy about it, because I'm pretty sure the
last time we had seen the other twin he was
trying to like kill Chloe. So I was like, what's
going on?

Speaker 1 (35:19):
I had a very interesting choice for them to do that.

Speaker 2 (35:23):
I mean, at least like make a nod or a joke.
You really look like so and so identical twins. Come on,
Come on, man, a couple more fun facts. So Christopher
Riven and his lowest lane Margot Kidder do show up
in Smallville together. It is very sweet. And this is
actually his last acting credit on IMDb. Oh, Dave Tisa,
this is from the Talkville podcast. Was in an episode

(35:45):
and he was supposed to lift Clark over his head.
So they're going to set up like the strings and
everything so that he can lift six foot three Tom
Welling over his head like it's no big deal. And
while they're trying to get it set up, Dave Batista says,
why don't I just pick him up and lift him
over my head? And they're like, oh, and that's.

Speaker 1 (36:01):
What people don't realize, Like look up Dave Batista when
he was in WWE, the dude was a menace.

Speaker 2 (36:06):
Out and this was before he was ever dragged.

Speaker 1 (36:09):
Yeah, this was his prime WWE days.

Speaker 2 (36:11):
So Luther Mansion, there are scenes I think from the
outside is the same mansion as the two thousands X
Men mansion and the mansion used in Arrow. It is
the National Historic Site.

Speaker 1 (36:22):
Oh, that'd be fun to go see one day.

Speaker 2 (36:24):
Speaking of Chloe Sullivan who played uh, I don't know.
Chloe Sullivan's a character. She was created for the show,
so she's not actually in the comic book at all.
But again she Jenson Ackles was actually second online to
get Clark. Thank god that didn't happen right exactly. They
didn't bring him in as a season regular in season three,
which is kind of funny because his storyline Lana is like.

Speaker 1 (36:47):
Whatever, Yeah, well, he doesn't look.

Speaker 2 (36:49):
Like Superman at all. I think that would not have.

Speaker 1 (36:50):
Been I don't think he does. He comes across as
more of a rugged Bruce Wayne to me in my opinion,
like Superman is, he's always clean, you know what I mean,
Like he's he doesn't have a beer. He's very now picturing.

Speaker 2 (37:03):
Henry Cavill after that fire, and he's also covered in.

Speaker 1 (37:06):
Se Okay, all right, that now we unfortunately we don't
talk about the Justice League. Okay, we will talk about Yeah.

Speaker 2 (37:15):
So if you haven't watched Smallville, though, do it. It's campy,
it's cheesy, it's first of its kind, and it's awesome,
and it's spawned the Arrow Verse. And again check out Talkvill.
There is a season eleven comic book that continues the story,
and it has Christopher Reeves's character to be the founder
of Star Labs. IMDb funny enough has this listed as
the show goes from twenty one to twenty seventeen. That

(37:36):
is because there is a scene in Crisis on Infinite
Earth that shows that Clark gave up his powers to
raise kids with Lois on his family farm in Smallville.
You can watch this on Hulu or purchase it on Amazon,
Apple and others.

Speaker 1 (37:46):
Interesting, do you have a what are some of your
favorite episodes? If you have any at all?

Speaker 2 (37:51):
I always like, so they did this thing and like
you kind of wrote this.

Speaker 1 (37:54):
In christ wasn't Smallville? They this is when they had
Green Arrow, Aquaman all them show up right throughout this
in Smallville because that's when.

Speaker 2 (38:03):
They Hartley, justin Hartley's Arrow, Oh, what's his face. Uh
was big Eye Reacher.

Speaker 1 (38:09):
Yeah, yeah, he's.

Speaker 2 (38:13):
Terrible. He's terrible. He definitely had a glow up in
his his ability to act and his physical features. But
he is he's not No, he's not unattracted by any
means in the show. But he is not a great
actor in the show. But then when you see him
in Titans, he's a great actor and I can't think
of anything else.

Speaker 1 (38:28):
I've seen him Ungentlemanly Warfare with Henry Cavill. He's great
in that movie.

Speaker 2 (38:34):
I will always in the clip of them drunk, I
need to watch that movie.

Speaker 1 (38:37):
Such a good movie. Uh what the League of ungentle
mentally Ungentlemanly Warfare. That could be getting the exact height
of wrong. But if you look up Ungentlemanly Warfare, that's
a movie. It's really good. Henry Cavill in the chemistry him,
they both have Alan Richan Richson.

Speaker 2 (38:55):
He makes call look small.

Speaker 1 (38:57):
Yeah, the dude is yoked and he plays Reacher and
he's honest. Obviously, Jensen's probably not ever going to be Batman.
He's my pick to play Batman in the DC universe, honestly.

Speaker 2 (39:06):
Oh he could play like absolute Batman.

Speaker 1 (39:08):
Well, that's what I mean, he's freaking huge, but I
firmly believe that he now has the acting chops to
play both sides of the house. And you can see
a lot of his acting chops in that movie, particularly
because he plays like this smart guy but he's also
a badass. Really good movie. But I do like him.
But I remember, I've seen bits and pieces of you know,
Green Arrow and stuff, and also the kid whose name

(39:31):
I forget, but he plays Barry Allen or whoever it is.
While he's a little kid though, the hoodie and stuff,
and they just put them in these bum clothes as
their outfits, but they're the color themes, and I'm just,
oh my gosh, it was crazy.

Speaker 2 (39:45):
Arrow becomes a like a regular eventually, Oh yeah.

Speaker 1 (39:49):
That's right. He kind of runs everything. I don't care.

Speaker 2 (39:51):
Yeah, and he ends up with another main character in
the show that you meet in season one, and he
ends up with somebody, and so I actually I liked
how they ended the show. I thought they did a
good job. I thought low Slaine was a great casting.
I thought Lona Lane is a great casting. But I
I always loved when they had Clarko Dark Side, which
I feel like they did quite a bit, and you know,
you saw it a little bit, and I think it
was Superman too, Like yeah, so I just but it

(40:13):
was so funny because it was like when he went
dark side, he was just acting like a normal teenager.
And I've said this before on the podcast, like the
most unrealistic thing of this show is that it was
that Don Walling was still a virgin when he graduated
from high school. Sure, sure, but he was no way
bomb does plays a great lex. Oh the guy who
plays that is phenomenal, Like Donnie Glover, Danny Glover. He

(40:35):
does a great jobs as that is his name. It's
something like that, Don Glover, Danny Glover. Is it Donald Glover,
Lionel Luther, Lionel Luthor, It's I don't know, John Glover.

Speaker 1 (40:53):
It was how many Glovers?

Speaker 2 (40:55):
Man?

Speaker 1 (40:55):
Okay, it definitely not Donald Glover and it's definitely not
Danny Glover.

Speaker 2 (40:59):
I'm getting to this. I know I can't remember.

Speaker 1 (41:01):
It's not either of those guys.

Speaker 2 (41:03):
But I will say this is also one of those
shows when you go back and watch, you'll constantly have
those Leonardo DiCaprio moments. Because of a lot of young
actors like Amy Adams is in this, and she later
plays Lois Layton.

Speaker 1 (41:14):
Yeah, does it's his mom's name? So yeah, she plays
I love Batman, very Superman. But it's always still funy,
like it's it's his mom's name. He's talking about his mom.
We know, we know, all right, Anyway, it's worth watching. Yes, Uh,
why don't you go into Superman and Lois? Because I
have Again, this is another one I've only seen bits
and pieces of actually, and not because it's not a

(41:37):
good show, because I think the dark side fight that
they have in this show to wrap up the entire
series is really good. I've seen that, but I never
got It's a few seasons and you can catch it
on HBO. But I just never got on that train
for some reason, probably because it was c W nwl's
burnt out by those shows at that time. But I've
heard nothing but good things.

Speaker 2 (41:55):
So I didn't finish all of Aerovers, but one hundred
percent finished this and hundred percent loved it. Yeah, I
definitely recommend this, and you can watch it standalone. You
don't need to watch Airoverse because so. Yeah, so I'll
do this and then we'll wrap up with you'll you'll
do some cartoon work.

Speaker 1 (42:08):
Yeah, because I've actually never watched.

Speaker 2 (42:11):
So this is a spinoff of Supergirl and the aaroverse
Superman and Lois follows the couple with their twin boys,
Jonathan and Jordan. Following the death of Martha, they move
from a travelist to Smallville and they live in Clark's
childhood home. When they first move, the boys do not
know their dad is Superman, and so as they adjust
to country life, Lana Lange and a lot of the
other past comes back in the Clark's life. Laana Lane's
kids become friends with his kids. It's all fun and

(42:32):
Lnna Lane is She's Turtle's girlfriend and entourage. So I
was really glad to see her.

Speaker 1 (42:36):
Turtle, I love her too.

Speaker 2 (42:38):
They really cast them pretty Lana Lings not in the
nineteen seventy eight Superman. But so as they adjust a
country life, I just said that. So the show truly
showcases balancing kids, work, health, and being Superman, as well
as being somebody who's in Superman's family. So they don't
just focus on the struggle for Clark, they focus on
the struggle for the kids. They focus on the struggle
with Lois and even how it impacts the town. Like
that all of that really weighs on him. So they

(43:00):
touch on this emotionally and physically and more ways than one.
So it stars Tyler Hoakland who he said, and Elizabeth Tulock.
The show beautifully wraps up and it gives so much
comfort and closure. In that final episode, as I was
typing Jonathan and Jordan wrapping for this, I realized what
an idiot I am because I just realized that Jordan
is for Jurrell. I had always wondered why in God's

(43:21):
name they would name one of their children after a
parent and randomly named the other guy Ordan.

Speaker 1 (43:26):
It is for Jordan. Yeah, okay, So.

Speaker 2 (43:29):
Jordan Elliott is also though the alias for Clark after
he gives up his powers in the comic arc whatever
happened to the Man of Tomorrow, So it's a double
which I'm sure that was a nod to Jerrell. So
two different actors do play young Jonathan Kent, However, the
first one is actually named Jordan, which I'm sure was very,
very confusing. So we first meet this Superman and Lois
in Supergirl. They were also in Crisis on Infinite Earth's. However,

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this show is a very different universe and that's why
I'm saying you can watch this completely standalone. Okay, so
the writers decided to place this series on Earth TUD
twenty five instead of Earth Prime, which is Aeroverse, so
as to give it a fresh start. Clark, Lois, Lewis,
Lucy Lane, and Diggle are all the only Aerovers characters
that play. They're doppelgangers in both things. So Jonathan Kent,

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Sam Lane, Darrell, the rest of them were all you know,
Lex Luthor, Jimy Olson, we're all recast. Lillian Luther and
Lionel Luthor are also played by different actors. Additionally, Morgan Edge,
though was used as the human alias for tal Row.
So a big part of why this happened was COVID
because they were playing other crossovers and all sorts of
stuff that really didn't happen. So that being said, though,
if you are like not into the Erroverse or I

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got bored with the Errooverse again four seasons, you can
watch it all on its own.

Speaker 1 (44:38):
Yeah, is way better than Honestly, the last half of
air Verse, Like the production and all of the action
sequences don't look like your typical CW stuff. The drama
that they have to manufacture and things really didn't seem
CW to me at all.

Speaker 2 (44:54):
No, they did did a great job. My only issue
when it was a big reminder of CW. So somebody
in the show fights cancer and they beat the cancer
and they go to ring the bell. Yeah yeah, ha ha.
But I mean that plays a great storyline too. I'm
trying to be subtle because I want people to watch it,
but I don't know anything Lois. Lois ends up with cancer,
and so Clark feels so helpless, like the things he

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can do, he can't save his wife. And I thought
that was so beautiful.

Speaker 1 (45:20):
That's a really crazy story. I mean, that's a really
good storyline, not that she has cancer, but like it's
real Superman and she's a human and he can do
everything but save her. That's deep, man, It is very deep.

Speaker 2 (45:32):
But it's not like cheesy. But when she beats cancer
and she goes throing the bell, they all scream screw cancer,
and that's not what you're supposed to scream. So that
was like a reminder of HBO.

Speaker 1 (45:42):
Okay, you need to just voice dub the other one.

Speaker 2 (45:46):
So here's some fun facts. The pilot pays homage to
Action Comics number one Superman's debut by depicting the hero's
original Golden Age costume for the first time in live action,
and when he gets a compliment, he's so cute and says, thanks,
my mom made it. And it also shows him lifting
up a green car, which I'm sure everybody's seen that cover.
Tyler actually auditioned for Superman and Man of Steel. He did, not, however,

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have to audition for the CW.

Speaker 1 (46:08):
Because they probably saw takes.

Speaker 2 (46:10):
A newsroom which had been sitting empty because the staff
had been sent home to work remotely in March. Of
staff were then asked to come in at scheduled times
to clear out the personal effects so the production could
set up. Lois's real life husband actually plays an older
version of her son Jonathan. Lois's real life husband plays
an older version of her son Jonathan Kent in the show.
He also voiced Bruce Wayne before, so that's fun. Lois

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was supposed to get seven seasons, but got cut short
to four because of the new Superman film. I personally
think it had more to do with CW totally changing itself,
but I don't really know.

Speaker 1 (46:42):
They have like wrestling on there now. They put. I
think the WNBA actually airs on CW as well, so
I don't know that they actually air any original TV
on there.

Speaker 2 (46:50):
I have no idea. I mean, I don't have cable anymore.

Speaker 1 (46:52):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (46:53):
But this was actually the last piece of the Erroverse
to wrap up, because there are still some crossovers and
it was still considered the air Verse. Tyler Hawklin received
a really nice letter from David korn Sweat, who is
the new Superman, as production of the series was wrapping up,
and Hopeland stated, I again very honored and privileged to
have been a part of this and super happy to
pass it off to David. I'm sure he's going to
do a great job. So this was my personal favorite

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Superman show. I felt like it was the first Superman
that had an innocence about him while still being an
incredible badass even when his powers were dampened. He's still
like showcased this like brute strength. And I also love
the realness that you see when he's defending his kids,
whether he's pretending to be weak while defending his kids
or while he's literally physically defending his kids or saving

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his kids, and you really believe that he's so head
over heels in love with Lois, and not in a
cheesy way like it's just the way they did it
up until the last episode. It was beautifully done to
the point you're thinking, like Tyler Hackland really does think
that this woman is the most beautiful woman in the world.
It was really good and again, yeah that effects were great.
And this is on c W, HBO, Hulu and Roku
and more for purchase.

Speaker 1 (47:55):
Awesome. Well, let's wrap up with some Superman the Animated
Series bits here. Not to go into a whole lot,
but there's some pretty fascinating stuff because it was airing
for three seasons from ninety six to two thousand and
the first episodes were obviously him getting off to Earth.
You know, everything starts with Joel and then sending baby Superman.
Then he gets his job at the Daily Planet where
he meets Lois Lane and I enjoyed this one. Obviously

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it's not on the panthonon of animated series when you
think about Batman the Animated series, but they actually do
intertwine quite a bit. Now Clark has actually written more
contemporary while his powers were more silver aged during this
time period, so his characters more aligned to Batman the
animated series. In the show, it actually ends up becoming
combined with the New Batman Adventures and it became the

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New Batman Adventures slash Superman the animated series, which is
all on HBO. I was watching some of this, you know,
it's really good, honestly. It then spins off from there
into the Justice League Animated series, which is one of
the best animated series period. I absolutely adore the Justice
League Animated series, but we're not here to talk about that.
So Tim Daily was the voice of Clark Kent slash

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you know super Man. But there is another voice, Lex
Luthor's voice, who is Clancy Brown. We know Coron is everywhere.

Speaker 2 (49:08):
He was everywhere.

Speaker 1 (49:10):
It was really cool.

Speaker 2 (49:12):
Star Wars, Rebels and Dexter and the gen v He's everywhere.

Speaker 1 (49:16):
Yeah, everywhere. So Clancy Brown was Lex Luthor, a great,
great voice actor. And in the time between the initial
end of Batman, Steven Spielberg actually approached Bruce Tim about
his admiration for his previous show. While being curious about
an adventure cartoon, Spielberg asked Tim and his crew to
come up with concepts for him to look at. One
of these ideas eventually sprung into Freakazoid. Never seen that

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now it involved a well, Freakazoid is about a crazed superhero,
although Tim had aimed for a straightforward hero show rather
than overt comedy. Anyways, Warner Brothers was anticipating a feature
film of Superman at this point. As you know, Nicholas
Cage was screen testing for Superman. This is all during
the same time test. Yes, this was it right here man,

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this ah, God, what could have been? We could have
had Val Kilmer or George Clooney with Nicholas a man
World's finest. So that's what they wanted to make a
television series alongside of the film, which led to Gene
McCurdy to approach Bruce Tim about the idea of doing
a series on Superman. He agrees to do. Initially, Tim
struggled to find his visual style to the point where

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he thought of trying to aim for a retro feeling
similar to Fleischer Studio Superman cartoons back in the forties.
An original character design sheet was shown to them and
the characters were stylized in more forties fifty style. It's
it's more along the lines of the live action Adventures
to Superman TV series. However, Tim decided that he could
not compete against the perfection past, although he would actually

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go on to utilize the influence from the classic decor,
which he described as bright, futuristic, optimistic, ocean liner art
decor much more in line with the Superman character. Yeah,
he's all arts, lion arts.

Speaker 2 (50:55):
You think of the Mickey boat.

Speaker 1 (50:56):
Yeah, Oh god, don't even get me started right now,
the way Mickey would just solve all of my problems
for three days, dude. As with the first season of Batman,
the opening theme sequence of Superman lacked an on screen title,
but also like Batman, the opening theme of super Oh
excuse me sorry, I'm re repeating myself now, geez, instead

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of being an instrumental piece, played over various scenes from
the series. The character designed for the title character was
inspired by, not was not inspired by one of the comics, however,
it was actually inspired by the Mighty Hercules from nineteen
sixty three. With the design of the title character, DC
then asked him to give Superman a mullet, to which
he actually refused. Now, the three main bad guys of

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this series are Lex Luthor, Brainiac, and Dark side. There
are many villains spread throughout, but these are the three
reoccurring main villains, and in this series, the writers decided
to alter Brainiac's origin by making him a Kryptonian artificial
intelligence instead of an alien, which gives him more of
a personal rivalry with Superman. The producers of the show
found Brainiac's character inabilities interest in the comics. However, they

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really did not like his original design, so they really
wanted to alter his appearance. Essentially, his green skin was
replaced with an icy blue coloration. In the rest of
his outfit became a mix of purple and gray rather
than pink and black. Corey Burton's vocal performances Brainiac was
done in a cold blu effects style similar to h L.
Nine thousand in Space Odyssey Films funny Enough, and it

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was also a mix of the control voice heard during
the opening narration of the Outer Limits. Now. Before being
cast as Brainiac, Burton also read for the parts of
Superman and Lex Luthor, which Clancy Brown, funny enough, also
read for Superman before being cast as Lex Luthor. So
what could have been?

Speaker 2 (52:36):
I guess he's a much better I don't see him
as Superman.

Speaker 1 (52:39):
No he doesn't have the voice. His voice is very
deeper and green, and most of the time he.

Speaker 2 (52:43):
Ends up playing somebody that you think is a good guy,
but isn't always a bad reel and.

Speaker 1 (52:51):
The same yeah in the live action series and rebels. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (52:56):
Yes, that made me very excited because it made me
it made that continuity about can I remember what the
planet is called?

Speaker 1 (53:02):
I forget too. However, going back to this, there was
actually a sixty eight issue comic book adaptation which took
place in ninety six two thousand and two. Some of
the key writers we have as Paul Deini who did
the first issue, Mark McLeod, Mark Millar, and Evan Dorkin.
Now there's actually an altered sequence in The Apocalypse Now,
part two of the series.

Speaker 2 (53:21):
Now.

Speaker 1 (53:21):
It was later altered from its original airing on February seventh,
nineteen ninety eight, where originally Dan Turpin's Funeral was an
homage to Jack Kirby and featured several of his comic
book creations as attendees to the funeral, which included Nick Fury,
The Fantastic Four, Big Barda, Scott Free O'Ryan and others. Now,
alongside Kirby's friends and fans. Mark Evanier, Bruce, Tim Paul Deiny,

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Alex Ross, his father Norman Ross, and Stanley also appeared.
These characters were actually later removed and the scene pacing
was re edited for subsequent airings and its DVD release
on Superman the Animated Series, Volume three, Disc three. Neither
DC nor Warner Brothers ever commented on this decision to
alter this particular scene. However, it has been speculated that
the copyright issues regarding the use of likeness of Marvel

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Comics characters and the long time rivalry between the two
companies may have led to the deletion of this And
you know, when Superman the Animated Series was released on
HBO Max and Blu Ray in twenty twenty one, the
original version was actually used, So if you own that
from them, yeah, it was originally. Now one of my
favorite arcs from this is the season two episode sixteen

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to eighteen, World's Finest When this is when Kevin Conroy's
Batman visits. It's a splash of two worlds Man the nineties,
two things that I grew up on, which is obviously
Batman the Animated series, which is my comfort show, and
then Superman and this is world's finest This for us
outside of comic books, this really is one of the
first times that Batman and Superman's world's collide and in

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a film, television kind of world. Granted, you had some
comics you things like that, and yeah, loose mentions, uh,
you know, Superman everses problem, but this is really when
their world's and obviously Kevin Conroy is the definitive voice
of Batman for so many people out there.

Speaker 2 (55:09):
You know, this is what.

Speaker 1 (55:13):
I was thinking. Yes, funny enough, Rat's Rob's on his
brother now. Anyways, Also in season two is when they
introduced Kara and just a lot of really good episodes.
So that's kind of what I have on the animated
series now. Next week we are going to continue with
the Brandon rout. I do too, and I've been playing

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the game and the arrow Verse.

Speaker 2 (55:37):
Yes, because he is both a Superman Adam and we saw.

Speaker 1 (55:41):
Him, didn't meet him, but we were near him in
his Yeah, so I went with.

Speaker 2 (55:46):
Him, but it was as him as Adam and legends Tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (55:52):
His Superman movie was almost ahead of its time and
came out the wrong period, and we breathed.

Speaker 2 (55:57):
I can't wait watch it. I don't think I've watched
it since it came out.

Speaker 1 (56:00):
I legitimately I saw it in theaters, and that's the
old time i've watched it. I would love to rewatch it. Unfortunately,
the guy who plays Lex Luthor is a come on,
Kevin Spacey. We knows garbage.

Speaker 2 (56:09):
Oh that's right. Oh you know what's funny. Here's a
fun fact for next week.