Episode 275: Superman Returns

Kicking off this week, we chatted about our beers from Tree House Brewing and Bissell Brothers Brewing before going into what we had been reading.

Matt: Absolute Flash #4, Krypto: The Last Dog of Krpyton #1, Godzilla VS Avengers #1, and Aliens VS Avengers #4

Lauren: Wolverine #10 (Her current favorite run)

Matt has begun watching Superman & Lois, so the two chat about the first few episodes and the Spaceballs return news before the main topic!

(25min) This week we are on to Superman Returns, the 2006 film that was supposed to be a continuation of the Christopher Reeve Superman! Brandon Routh dons the cape, and poor James Marsden is in danger of losing his girl and a kid that was not even his?!

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:27):
What up, everybody? Welcome back to another episode of hopskeeek News,
your home for comic books, movies, tv shows, and typically
we feature a wonderful, delicious spear of the week. I
am Matt. Alongside me as always is Lauren. Today's episode
number two hundred and seventy five, Folks, we're talking Superman returns. Actually, yes,
the wonderful two thousand and six films starring Brandon Ruth
Routh Harvey want to pronounce it. You know, this might

(00:51):
be one of those forgotten films, but there's good reasons.
There's also good reasons that the movie existed, and there's
some not so good reasons. So we're going to talk
about all of that good stuff, but first sings. First,
you know, we'd like to go into our beer of
the week. Then we talk about what we are reading
and watching, some news, and then our main topic. So
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my beer, I don't really have a properly themed one,
I guess, but it's it's Juiceleus from Treehouse. It's one
of their more special ones.

Speaker 2 (01:30):
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:30):
It's a exciting rendition of Julius, featuring a proprietary blend
of fruit added before packaging and a little Treehouse magic.
It's six point eight percent, just a IPA. You know,
I didn't really have anything themeed to this. I don't think,
kind of panicked. I got scared. That's what I have, Lauren,
What are you got?

Speaker 2 (01:49):
I have a really good beer, but I was having
a hard time theming something because we've been doing so
much Superman that it's hard to keep coming up with that.

Speaker 1 (01:55):
I know they don't have superhero beers.

Speaker 2 (01:57):
I bet next month we'll probably see some Superman themed beers,
because like, I was at GV the other day and
there was none. So I thought this beer said nothing
but gold, but gold beers. What it's called nothing gold?
So I guess we could say booster Gold's not in it,
so there's nothing.

Speaker 1 (02:14):
I mean, Kevin Spacey was in search of gold and
for oh god, his lex Luthor was a lot to
taken I completely forgot this man's entire plan. I you know,
it just Wolf Wolf. Yeah, you're learned.

Speaker 2 (02:28):
To his plan in the first one, which I did
not know. One of the big things I did not
realize with this movie. And it even says that though
in the description is that this was supposed to be
the same Superman as Christopher Reeve. I didn't know that.

Speaker 1 (02:40):
Oh you know, I think I did. And there was
a lot of resemblances there. I didn't realize that was
supposed to be like the same Lex Luthor and everything.
I guess and I didn't really think, but you're right, no, no,
there was similar to the plant. Now that all clicks,
It all clicks. Wow, how do they miss that on
the research? This whole track?

Speaker 2 (02:56):
And it all makes sense now.

Speaker 1 (02:58):
It does that the whole thing. Well, anyways, let's go
into what we've been reading or watching. Real quick, real quick, man,
I've done some things. You know. Crypto, the Last Dog
of Krypton is out now. Ryan North wrote it and
it's Crypto excuse me, geez, leaving Krypton essentially before Superman does.
And there's some really cute artwork and there's some really

(03:19):
cute moments in this book. Yeah, oh god, yes, she's
the fake money that everybody gets crazy about. And there's
a scene where Crypto just snuggles up next to baby
Clark and it's the cutest frickin thing on earth. And honestly, man,
it was a good book. There's a you know, Crypto's
not going to speak, but there's a really surprising part
at the end of this book too that didn't see

(03:40):
necessarily coming, which is kind of cool. And so from
there I also read Absolute Flash issue number four. Jeff
le Mere's on it really really good. This is kind
of an issue that kind of STAPs. The first three
issues are very breakneck speed. You know, while he's figuring
things out. This issue he takes that step back. It's
allowing us to breathe and develop the story a little
bit more. We meet Linda Park, Wally has met a

(04:03):
couple other people. Grod doesn't like being cooped up, so
he's off on the run and it ends on a
cliffhanger setting some stuff up, and there there's Thon is
in there, but it's not the thwn you would think,
and Thon's working with Wally's dad and the government. No
they you know, than it's doctor Thon and she's a
girl right now, So I'm wondering if that's going to
be this version of Iobar Thon or however they want

(04:25):
to go with it on this.

Speaker 2 (04:26):
One different person completely right.

Speaker 1 (04:28):
They give us just basically working for the government doing
side scientific projects. I'm assuming that it is going to
be that Thon, especially alluding to the projects that Barry
was working on that the government didn't know about. A
lot of cool stuffy I'm still said he's dead, but
rip and peace. Now, aside from that, Godzilla Versus Avengers
Issue number one is out. The lineup is pretty solid, man.

(04:50):
You know you David Walker wrote this, and now you
have Wolverine, who spends the entire issue burnt in half.
You have Spider Woman, Spider Man, Luke Cage, Captain America,
and I all of a sudden blanked on the last member.
But it's really good. It's basically them. Maria Hill is
scolding them like their children, and they're all recounting what

(05:11):
happened with Godzilla as he fights Finn feng Fum, and
Finn feng Fum just looks like an innocent Humpy the
entire time. And it's basically like why it's only attacking
Godzilla due to the fact that he thinks he's the
God of Monsters. And then they fight, Wolverine gets roasted
by Godzilla's blast SOT. Wolverine's like half burned. It's pretty hilarious,
and they're all recounting what went down in various different ways,

(05:33):
and Jet Jaguar makes an appearance, and Maria Hill is
just absolutely losing her mind.

Speaker 2 (05:38):
It's really why I'm picturing Robin like yelling at like Bernie.

Speaker 1 (05:41):
And hurt yelling at Patrice, but this time she That's
what it is, essentially, Yeah, that's what this issue is.
It's great. She's in charge of shield in this so
it's it's great. It's a fun and different take on
the Godzilla universe that we've gotten, and then Aliens Versus
Avenger Issue four raps up that from Jonathan Hickman. I
liked how it wrapped up. Didn't expect to see an

(06:03):
alien born from Mister Sinister and then a xeno morph
venom battle it out and then xeno Morph Venom become friends.
That it was weird, it was crazy, and it's very
satisfyingly good at the same time. Give it a chance.
For issues. That's it, just four issues and you can
see old Man logan, Old Man T'Challa, old Man, Carol.

Speaker 2 (06:22):
Danvers, Carold Hans.

Speaker 1 (06:25):
I said Old Man, I was on my Old Man.
I'm sorry, Oh geez, oh.

Speaker 2 (06:28):
God, Carol, you know what I mean. Woman, Woman sounds
like an insult, though Old Man is just like, oh,
I know what you're talking about.

Speaker 1 (06:36):
Yeah, you know see there you got those. Anyways, why
don't you tell half there? I did this one.

Speaker 2 (06:42):
I just reviewed Wolverine, so Wolverine number ten, so this one.
So the last month I had made a comment. So
this is the run that I feel like has been
very very cliche Wolverine, but with unexpected twists. So that's
a good thing where it's like, oh, you gotta win Digo,
but no, there's a whole other thing going on and
there's this and that. So last issue I kind of
I felt like nothing really happened. I was like, okay,
so everything they set up was kind of like just

(07:03):
a trap and whatnot. But this issue it went back
to being, oh so that issue was just setting up this,
which is what I was hoping, what's going to happen?
So this is the run by Salad and Ahmed Avier
or Javier A Pina and Brian Valenza. And I love
this because this was very much so going all the
way back to like old Man not old Man logan

(07:24):
very it was like a Wolverine origin story that takes
place today, and so they're digging deep into his past.
And I really really really enjoyed this one and made
me very excited to read the next one. So any
Wolverine fans, I've really loved this run. This is probably
there's so many Wolverine runs right now, this is probably
one of my favorite Wolverine runs right now, if not
the favorite Wolverine run going on right now.

Speaker 1 (07:46):
Oh that is that I do remember, I do recall.

Speaker 2 (07:49):
Yeah, although I am very behind on Ultimate Wolverine.

Speaker 1 (07:53):
All right, I am behind a couple issues on that
as well. It's very good.

Speaker 2 (07:58):
Also behind on Hellverine, which I'm.

Speaker 1 (08:00):
Really I have not read that since I initially bought
those either.

Speaker 2 (08:04):
And I'm also behind on hell Hunters, so I guess,
oh my god, more books for Nerd Initiative Book Club,
and I need to catch up on my comics.

Speaker 1 (08:15):
I actually picked up because I'm trying to read Superman
comics because Superman's like one that character I've never really
gotten into, but I'm trying, so I'm trying to read more,
and I picked up one of the big ones, Kingdom Come.
That's you know, Mark Wade, Alex Ross. I've never really
read it, and I know what it is. Alex Ross's
art is it's very good, but it's hard for me

(08:39):
at the same time to really get into because it's
just there's just something about his art that always is
like weird to me.

Speaker 2 (08:45):
I was thinking watercolors when you said no, it's it's
like hyper realistic essentially, right.

Speaker 1 (08:51):
But you know, in the near future world of Kingdom Comes,
superheroes are ubiquitous, but heroism is rare. After decades, it's
Earth's champions. The members of the Justice Leu have all
retreated from the public eye, replaced with the new generation
of crime fighters whose brand of justice leaves humanity terrified
rather than inspired. Sounds familiar, but with the planet's future jeopardy,
Superman Wonder Woman come out of retirement to make one

(09:13):
last stand for truth and justice. It's one American way. Yeah.
It won five eyes in our awards, you know, and
it's it's a very one of the big hyped up ones.
So I've read Death of Superman, so that's a really
good one.

Speaker 2 (09:25):
So I've picked up in a in a bag. I
need to open it. Josh actually got made a garage
sale recently.

Speaker 1 (09:31):
Oh wow. Yeah, Death of Superman is like the one
book that I've loved because it's just him fighting Doomsday,
right and that's the that's the definitive Superman story right there.
But they're coming out with all sorts of these new
books where I've picked up a few Fantastic four ones
against Galactus to kind of read up on as well,
because Fantastic Marvel's never been one that I've really gravitated.
It's mostly been you know, everything else essentially, So I'm

(09:52):
really excited for those. And speaking of I've also started
watching Superman and Lois. I know, I said last week
I've never watched it, so Carrie and I were trying
to figure out something to watch. It was gosh, like
a lot, that's a good one.

Speaker 2 (10:04):
I feel like to watch with her too, Like it's
a it's a good show. I feel like for a
couple to watch together.

Speaker 1 (10:08):
Oh We're super Yes, yes, I caught it as soon
as I said it, So you know, we we started
at like eleven o'clock on Saturday or whenever I texted you,
and we're on episode six of season one. I like,
it doesn't feel c W. I'm actually really kind of shocked.
I'm gonna keep expecting the same story beats as a

(10:29):
CW show, you know, such as with the twins, and
they kind of do they kind of.

Speaker 2 (10:32):
I was gonna say, you get hints of it though,
like like what I talked about, the screw cancer thing
instead of f cancer or like somethings. I do love
this Lana very much so, but sometimes she's a little too.

Speaker 1 (10:43):
She is a little camp She's probably the campiest ish
per and her husband of the show. But I mean their.

Speaker 2 (10:49):
Characters go in a direction I didn't expect.

Speaker 1 (10:52):
Oh, Jordan and Jonathan, though, I truly feel like they
get the CW kind of drama, you know, the teenage drama,
but it's very valid, you know, yeah, oh yeah, there
was he was drunk.

Speaker 2 (11:05):
Yeah, And they don't make it.

Speaker 1 (11:09):
Right. And I think one of the most fascinating aspects
about it is how badass obviously Lois still is, but
Superman is still na like Superman navigating fatherhood. I don't
know something about that is really cool. And they don't
drag out family drama and secrets they you know, typical
CW shows.

Speaker 2 (11:26):
Flash ear relationship.

Speaker 1 (11:28):
Yeah how long did they drag out secrets and go
in circles?

Speaker 2 (11:31):
But this is my least favorite.

Speaker 1 (11:34):
Yeah. Well, and then Clark is like, hey, guys, I
messed up my bad you forgive me, and they're like, yeah, dad,
that's cool, and you're just like, well, wait, we're not
going to spend six episodes debating on this, you know.
And the other silly part for me is obviously, you
know Lois Lane's dad. He's always in his stupid army uniform.
It's just hilarious to me. The guy does not go
without it, you know, that's kind of hilarious, but he does.

Speaker 2 (11:57):
I think that dies down after the beginning.

Speaker 1 (11:59):
And I'm so trying to figure out what the bad guy,
you know, the Luthors that what they're that's what they're
calling him, and that's not the Alex Luthor, right we.

Speaker 2 (12:07):
Have Luthor doesn't come in till till the end.

Speaker 1 (12:10):
Okay, okay, okay, that's what that's what I thought, because
I know that's somebody different. But even the actions. They
did the the super speed better than the actual Flash
movie that costs what three hundred and fifty million dollars
to make, so it's kind of interesting.

Speaker 2 (12:25):
I love it because of the casting.

Speaker 1 (12:27):
Yeah, well, they don't shy away from his powers. I
mean Clark's super speed, his flight this of course, his
flight doesn't look perfect, but his freeze breath and his
laser eyes, they don't shy away. The laser eyes kind
of look really good for and everything is very cinematic.
And yeah, honestly, six episodes in, this is a really
good show so far.

Speaker 2 (12:49):
Yeah, I really, I mean, yeah, you will get some lulls,
of course, I think with any show where you have,
you know, forty minutes a week on CW, you're gonna
have some. Even Supernatural is not perfect that you're watching it,
and I feel like you'll bring some insight to me
watching it because you know these characters more in depth
than I do, as far as their comic book counterparts.

Speaker 1 (13:08):
Oh yeah, yeah, no, it's fair.

Speaker 2 (13:10):
So the only other thing I watched this week I
have been watching a little bit of Supernatural again is
Dead City. The finale came out last night. I did
drop a review on Nerd Initiative, and I dropped a
review without spoilers, and then at the end I spoiled
the crap out of it and wrote some more of
my thoughts. So if you haven't checked it out, if
you're waiting for Netflix or something like that, or if
you've just given up on the Walking Down all together,

(13:30):
these are some of my thoughts on this season. Was
it perfect No? Did I enjoy the Nigan Maggie relationship, Yes,
but I do feel like there wasn't enough screen time
with them together. My favorite part of this whole season,
even up until the end, was the fact that the
generation that we're at now has never ordered pizza, does
not remember candy, does not remember anything because they weren't

(13:52):
after the aparrazy or they're only memories. They just don't remember.
And these children who are young adults or teenage, I
don't want to go back to before because they don't
know before. It's like, well, you know, whenever you watch
a movie or TV show and they go into another
you know, it's it's a different reality. And you even
if though the real their reality is worse, you still
want to go back to like what you know kind

(14:12):
of thing. And so it's very interesting to see how
these are getting pulled in different directions. Herschel is not
mentally well. Yeah, we saw things happen in season one,
and then we learn more about that in season two. Megan,
Megan did go places I didn't expect, like Jeffardy and
Morgan said, but the places he went, I don't know

(14:33):
if I wanted him to go there, but he did.

Speaker 1 (14:36):
Okay, So you either were not upset with the way
he went or it's interesting.

Speaker 2 (14:43):
I don't know if I want It's like, I don't
know if I want Nagan to be a good guy
or a bad guy. I don't know. But then when
I see him going certain directions, I'm like, wait, what
is he doing? Why is he doing that? So season
three has not been renewed, I don't know what's going
to happen. We shall see it.

Speaker 1 (14:58):
Really, that's interesting as.

Speaker 2 (15:01):
Far as I know. No, So if you want to
know more of my opinions with Spoiling It, you can
go to Earn Initiative dot com. I'm trying to be
very vague. It's kind of hard to review something. It
is really hard, but I felt like it was worth watching.
It was definitely an enjoyable show throughout, but it didn't.
There was a place I wanted it to go that
I probably would have been upset if it went, and

(15:21):
it didn't go. So I really don't know how to
feel interesting. I think we just seed more Maggie Meagan interaction.
There wasn't enough of that. Their feelings are too subtle.
They don't know how they feel about each other. They
don't know how they're supposed to feel about each other.
And I feel like some of their feelings for each other.
And I'm not saying like I get romantic vibes by
any means.

Speaker 1 (15:36):
I mean they're well, they're they're the draw INDs for
this show. I mean people watch it probably because of
those two. At this point, they don't care about.

Speaker 2 (15:46):
One hundred pc. I think every time Maggie starts to
have any empathy towards Megan, she feels guilty.

Speaker 1 (15:54):
Oh that I mean will It makes sense, right because
obviously the things that he did look my other computer
friendly turned on.

Speaker 2 (15:58):
But the whole thing with her and Herschel is Herschel's
pissed at her because his entire life, she never got
over this, and so she's never been fully present with
him because she can't move past something experience. Oh and
there was a scene in this where you saw her
PTSD and trauma on her face and you were like,
oh shit.

Speaker 1 (16:16):
Well it's hard, right because he's grown up in this
post apocalyptic world, whereas they have all experienced life like
real life, and so he only knows the one thing
and that's it losing people. Yeah, and it's just it is.
It does make for I like the psychological aspects of

(16:37):
that and the different generational aspects of that. So I
like that they do lean into that kind of stuff
because it makes for good, compelling things. I mean, it
really does.

Speaker 2 (16:46):
And you know, well, I was just gonna say, I
feel like with Maggie too. I think once she found
Glenn and they found Alexandria and they intentionally got pregnant,
I think she thought, like, this is how we survive
in the apocalypse. It's going to be okay. And then
you know, one day she thought she was having a
miscarriage and then she loses Glenn, and so her whole
world and expectation of how she was going to survive

(17:07):
the apocalypse was completely flipped on his head. Like she
found something good in it. And while she still has
herschel This wasn't the apple Pie zombiea coplis like she
thought she was going to get.

Speaker 1 (17:17):
Yeah, and it's not. It's very interesting, right you see that,
and then you compare it to something like The Last
of Us with the citizens of Yellowstone are able to
kind of live that life a bit.

Speaker 2 (17:26):
Yeah, and.

Speaker 1 (17:28):
No, it wasn't Yellowston. You know what I mean? You
still got it.

Speaker 2 (17:30):
Yellowstone was a sweet tooth.

Speaker 1 (17:32):
Yeah, I'm thinking of Gosh, jack you remember what it's
called Jajackson. Yes, I've been to all those places too.
I should know this.

Speaker 2 (17:40):
Well. I also think what was interesting in this was
the Walkers. While there were still times and moments where
the Walkers were scary and created an obstacle, for the
most part, their resources in this season not obstacles. So
that's kind of cool.

Speaker 1 (17:53):
Oh, that is interesting. I was just going to say,
speaking of this past weekend, twenty eight weeks later, came
out with I hopefully have seen and can talk about
do Hopefully there is some sort of something I can
put out in regards to that movie, because it's another
zombie film. On the topic of zombies. It's twenty eight
days later was very very good Killian Murphy, and then

(18:15):
twenty eight weeks later, yes was Jeremy Renner, and then
this one. I don't remember who all is in it yet,
but it's supposed to be really really good, or hopefully
it looks really good. You know, it's twenty eight years later.
I'm pretty pumped. So hopefully that's out and we'll have
some sort of review. But we only really have one
piece of news this week. Let's why don't you take
us away on the news here? This is pretty big news.

Speaker 2 (18:37):
Spaceball's The Movie Too is coming in twenty twenty seven.
Mark moranis is returning, along with Bill Pullman and his
son Lewis Pullman, as well as ninety eight year old mel.

Speaker 1 (18:47):
Brooks will be Oh my gosh, YO, believe mel Brooks
is coming back. I truly cannot believe that mel Brooks
is back.

Speaker 2 (18:56):
Did you watch the teaser for it with the I did?

Speaker 1 (18:59):
I did, and I'm liking Obviously. Rick moranis coming back
is awesome because you know, after his wife passed away,
he disappeared, He quit acting so that way he could
take care of their kids, which I don't blame him
the slightest. So anytime we get Rick Morana's back. I
love that man. I think he's such a stand up
dude from any interviews I've seen, I mean to just now,

(19:20):
oh yeah, so but the fact that they're grown. But
he never quite fully stepped back into the Hollywood light.

Speaker 2 (19:27):
But he was huge.

Speaker 1 (19:28):
He was I mean, you know Ghostbusters, Honey, I shrunk
the kids.

Speaker 2 (19:32):
He was hilarious.

Speaker 1 (19:34):
Yeah, he was a massive, massive actor. And to step
away like that. Now he's coming back for this movie,
which I'm interested to see. What do you think they're
gonna do with barf?

Speaker 2 (19:47):
Oh? Somebody else brought that up. I feel like that's
gonna be the hardest thing. It's like they can't not
have barf, you can't not get Chewy.

Speaker 1 (19:53):
I don't know what bill coming back, So yeah, I'm curious.

Speaker 2 (19:56):
Somebody suggested Zach Galifanakis night instead Fringe. I didn't love
him and Leelo and Stitch. I did see Leelo and
Stitch last week that I think Zach Galafanakis was my
least favorite part of that movie. I did not care
for his character. I'm forgetting what his name is, but
I don't know. I didn't love it, so I don't
want him to come back as Barf. It's you need,
I don't know, you need like someone like Chris Farley,

(20:18):
which you can't bring him in either, So I don't
know that'll be a hard one. Well, yeah, right, I
wonder if they'll cast somebody young and it'll be Barf's
son and Barf won't be around anymore.

Speaker 1 (20:26):
Because I'm trying to think of actors now who fit
that profile, and I no, I mean nobody, nobody fits
John Candy or Chris Farley's shoes obviously. I mean, John
Candy is his own thing, and nobody quite fits that.
So I'm trying to think of Please God, don't let
it be like James Corden or somebody stupid, which I
don't think they would do to ruin that legacy. They might,

(20:48):
they might, the way they might do it. He might
not be there. I don't know. He truly might have
passed away. But you're right, how would they do this
without a Chewy like character? Yeah, I don't know, so
I guess I'm sure we'll get that casting at some point,
but for it, at first, I was surprised, while twenty
twenty seven, that's really soon, But then mel Brooks ain't
getting any younger. That dude is ninety eight years old. Yeah,

(21:10):
in the rate the world's going, I hope he at
least lasts and finishes this movie as well. And then
Lewis Pullman I love, you know, we'd love Lewis Pullman.

Speaker 2 (21:19):
Around, and they could do anything. Yeah, they could make
Bill Pullman a force ghost and it could be all
about oh, you know, Lewis Pullman and maybe Barf's daughter
and there are a couple who knows.

Speaker 1 (21:32):
Yeah, you're right. I didn't even consider that. That would
be kind of funny.

Speaker 2 (21:35):
Maybe he comes back at the end and they're like,
somehow he returned. They have so much more content to
pull from. And you even saw that in the screen
role with like oh, we have a TV shows and
a sequel and a prequel and a sequel for the
prequel and the nug and like yeah, and a TV
show that's with a movie based on a movie. And
then they did them.

Speaker 1 (21:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (21:52):
I was like, oh, my god, is correct.

Speaker 1 (21:54):
Yeah, we'll see I guess, you know. And real quick,
there is just a couple of things that came there.
Marvel did something, and there's fantastic four merch out there.
So Roosevelt's you know, rsvlts. They teased their Fantastic four merch,
which looks pretty cool, and then they have a Superman
line out now and I, as of now, I'm not

(22:16):
going to buy it. But if they have cute little
crypto shirts, Carrie might just get mad at me because
I'm probably gonna do at least a shirt. You gotta
get a Superman shirt for the opening night. We're going
July eighth, We're going early. And then they had Fantastic
I mean, I'm wearing to want this T shirt, but Roosevelts, Dude,
Roosevelt doesn't have like pure Superman yet. And then they're
gonna have Fantastic Four. There was Fantastic four crocs, you know,

(22:39):
which I didn't honestly love the crocs. I will be
honest there. But there's a lot of cool merch coming
down the pipe. But I forgot basically now. So we
have twenty eight weeks later, and then we're going into
Jurassic Park on July second. Then we go out Superman,
and then we have Fantastic Four. Not long so July.
We're shaping up for a good month of movies. I
can't wait. Hopefully you guys got your tickets to all

(23:00):
of those good stuff, but let's go ahead to take Superman. Well,
I didn't buy tickets yet for Fantastic four and things
like that either because I didn't need to unless they're
doing another early showing like they did with Superman. It's
the only reason why I did Superman was because they're
doing the July eighth. You never know, I don't.

Speaker 2 (23:15):
Know, I don't know. I doubt Prime will do unless
they do it with somebody else.

Speaker 1 (23:18):
You know. I did watch Work Tour on Amazon Prime
this past weekend. That was fun.

Speaker 2 (23:22):
Man.

Speaker 1 (23:22):
And now they've announced Warp Tour next year in DC
July thirteenth and fourteenth, So we got to look at
the cruise dates for Disney so they don't cross over
because I gotta go to Warp Tour and then we
got to do our cruise.

Speaker 2 (23:34):
And I will definitely not be buying Warped Tour tickets again.

Speaker 1 (23:37):
I kind of want, I you know, if I can
finagle it, I would glad to take yours because the
legit your show has so many good bands.

Speaker 2 (23:49):
There's so many good bands I've seen at Disney.

Speaker 1 (23:52):
Well, it's hilarious because meanwhile, me over here, I'm like
your show is the best one on the warp dates.
You've got everybody say it was a data remember simple
plan and.

Speaker 2 (24:02):
Same lineup from nineteen ninety nine. I want, I want
eminem you found glory on the local stage again for.

Speaker 1 (24:10):
Me out because when we were young, they did have
blinkrn A two there the second year because I went
to the inaugural when we were young and they had everybody,
and then the next year Blink played. So maybe Warped
Tour might have some of those returnees now that it's
like a big festival kind of like that it's not
an all summer long thing. Maybe they do. Maybe.

Speaker 2 (24:27):
I mean we buy Tortuga. I'll tickets all the time
without seeing the lineup, and it's always hit or miss
with the lineup, but there's always a lot of people
that we like and know and we're on the beach
like this is like not on the beach, warp towards
my speed.

Speaker 1 (24:39):
I belong there. I don't belong at Tortuga.

Speaker 2 (24:41):
So you flipped its long at Tortuga. I need some
Ludicris and Luke Combs in the.

Speaker 1 (24:46):
Same I mean, man, I need a mosh pit. I
need to get elbowed in the face. I need to
be sweaty, my I need I need to jump around.
I need to feel people's stinky breath on mine. Anyways,
with that note speak of stinky breath, let's go ahead
and take a quick commercial break and be right back
with some Superman returns. All right, dudes, we're back Superman Returns.

(25:10):
We're here. The two thousand and six film, starring so many,
so many, so many.

Speaker 2 (25:15):
Crazy pretty faces.

Speaker 1 (25:18):
You're right, You're right, they are. They are pretty faces.
So we got Brandon Routh, We've got Kate Bosworth as
Lewis Lane. You've got Kevin Spacey as Lex Luthor. We
got James Martinsden as Richard White, Parker Posey as is Kitty,
Sam Huntington is Jimmy Olsen. Like this cast is stacked. Man,
I'm just cal penn Is even in this movie, like

(25:38):
no bar.

Speaker 2 (25:39):
It's like no lines. He's just there.

Speaker 1 (25:41):
They're looking scared the whole time.

Speaker 2 (25:43):
Like right after Van Wild or something, I'll just throw
you in.

Speaker 1 (25:48):
Yeah, it's he that that kind of height there, which
is crazy, but you're you were right looking into it. Essentially.
It was directed by Brian Singer, written by Michael Doherty
and Dan Harris. It is on Superman. It serves as
the homage homage if You Will sequel to the Superman
nineteen seventy eight and Superman nineteen eighty, ignoring the events
of Superman three and Supergirl and Superman four. The film

(26:10):
stars Brandon Rouths. We Know That and the film Superman
returns to Earth five years and after five years and
discovers that his love interest, Lois Lane has moved on
from him, and that his arch enemy Lex Luthor is
planning to kill him and reshape North America. Don Downton. Yeah,
So this movie was made, you know, two hundred and

(26:34):
twenty three million dollars in box office was three hundred
and ninety one million. And it came out during the
height of all of those crazy superhero films. I mean,
Fantastic four, you had spider Man, you had X Men,
all of those early two thousands film and I can
honestly say this was probably the better one of those
early two thousands films, aside from like Spider Man one

(26:55):
and two and maybe X Men.

Speaker 2 (26:58):
One and two too. I like Too is my favorite,
maybe because it's more focused on Wolverine.

Speaker 1 (27:04):
Maybe, I guess, I don't know. It was definitely more adult,
but James Marsden early two thousands were not kind to
poor James Marston. His girl was getting swooped left and right.
His kid's not actually his, Like it's James Marsden. Man,
what who did he make? Mad?

Speaker 2 (27:19):
Enchanted? He lost the girl? I mean he got but
like everything he's in, he's like, I don't know, I
don't get X Men.

Speaker 1 (27:28):
You know this movie, But in an X.

Speaker 2 (27:29):
Men he literally marries the girl and we still view
him as not getting the girl because the other guy.

Speaker 1 (27:34):
Was exactly I mean, and then he he dies, doesn't
he die? Yeah, she come and so then he ends
up dying. So his girl kills him and.

Speaker 2 (27:44):
Other than one kissed Wolverine Gus.

Speaker 1 (27:47):
Okay, to be fair, Sonic didn't steal his girl. Okay,
he got kind of lucky. Sonic never stole his girl,
so he's moved on from that. Dude, James Marsden.

Speaker 2 (27:57):
I just he's so handsome too and like and he's
a nice guy. He doesn't play a jerk, and he
still doesn't get them.

Speaker 1 (28:03):
Nothing wrong in this movie. Absolutely, he was so supportive.
He put his life on the line to help Lois
save Superman. The kid wasn't his all right?

Speaker 2 (28:13):
And yeah he's the actual hero. Superman chose Metropolis over
Lois and the Kid. He chose Lois and the Kid
over Metropolis.

Speaker 1 (28:20):
Yes, and he goes back and pulls Superman out.

Speaker 2 (28:24):
Should we talk about what happens? Go ahead, there's more
to get to an aaroverse too, like it gets even
worse an aarovers.

Speaker 1 (28:30):
Oh it doesn't. Okay, go ahead, Yes, but.

Speaker 2 (28:31):
This actually came out nineteen years ago this month, June thirtieth,
and there is also nineteen years last Christopher Reeve played
when he played Superman in this movie. So just seeing
those time differences, I always think is just crazy. It
gives you like perspective of how much time he really does. Yeah, okay,
So the remains of Krypton have been found, so kylel
leaves to go find them and has returned to Earth.

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Five years later, Lex got himself a Sugar Mama and
got everything when she passed, and she got him out
of jail. Fun fact, this was actually one of the
lowest planes from the nineteen fifties show. And once again
he has a hot sidekick. Shout out to Parker Posey
cut She's.

Speaker 1 (29:06):
So unhinged in this movie, Oh my god, but.

Speaker 2 (29:09):
All of his gal pals are, and they all seem
like they're stupid at first, and they're not stupid, but
he uses them and then at backfires. That happens in
every gene Hackman one. So they did keep consistency and
make it less campy.

Speaker 1 (29:24):
That's true.

Speaker 2 (29:25):
It's okay, so okay. So we see Kumaro. So we
cut to Clark crashing back into small villain, into the
arms of Martha. Let's go to the Fortress of Solitude.
With a nod that he's clearly been there before, Lex
has Jirell tell him everything about crystals. Now we're back
in Metropolis. Clark heads to the Daily Planet, where he
sees Lois has won an award for an article called
why the World Doesn't Need Superman, and he sees a

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picture of Lois with her son and a very long
engaged fiance, James Mars. Jimmy, however, tells Clark he thinks
she's still in love with you know who, And again
nobody puts together that Superman and Clark are back at
the same time.

Speaker 1 (29:58):
But whatever, I know, Clark's back a Superman a minute.

Speaker 2 (30:02):
I feel like that's the most inconsistent thing is Lois
nobody that he's Superman.

Speaker 1 (30:08):
Nobody even pays attention to the fact that Clark mysteriously
shows back up at all.

Speaker 2 (30:12):
They do have a moment where they're like, how much
does Superman? Way? How tall is you? How much does Clark?
And then he does something goofy and smiles and they're like, nah,
that can't be him, all right. Meanwhile, that's another shout
out to Lois and Clark, because Clark and the TV
show Lois and Clark, Tyler Hawkland is genuinely innocent as Clark.
It's not an act. And I love that.

Speaker 1 (30:32):
He's such a good actor. Yeah he is.

Speaker 2 (30:34):
I love him so much. But he's still bad ass
even when he loses his powers, He's still badass. Okay, unike, Christopher?
If sorry, Christopher, You've rest in peace. We love you.
So Meanwhile, Lois is on a plane with a shuttle
attached to it. Shit goes bad, so of course Superman
is suddenly back in the same day the Clark's although
he seems a bit rusty at first, he lands a
plane in the middle of a baseball game. Shockingly, everyone
seems all right, and this is a plane full of reporters,

(30:55):
so of course they all start trying to question him.
Then the two Jimmy Olsen's hug because Clark was actually
at a bar with Jimmy and the bartender was Jimmy
Olsen from the nineteen fifty Superman.

Speaker 1 (31:07):
Oh okay, so yeah, So the two.

Speaker 2 (31:08):
Jimmy sag, which is super sweet, and then Carrie demands
that Lois cover Superman and Clark has to cover the
blackout because there was a blackout that caused this, and
Lois is all about that. She doesn't want to cover Superman.
She's mad at Superman. Alex goes to the museum for
some stuff he needs. It's kryptonite, and they use Parker
poses Win. Yeah, but he cuts the brakes for Parker

(31:29):
Posey's character, and of course she's screaming and Superman saves
her and she's like, you didn't have to really cut
the brake. So Superman and Lois go flying. Then, as
Clark goes back to the Fortress of Solitudes, discovered the
crystals are gone. While Lois and her son are on
their way to the Pulitzer Prize party, she stops, she
makes a stop and she ends up on Lex's yacht,
not knowing that it is Lex's yacht. She's just following
the trail. So Lex finds them. She asks about the blackout.

(31:51):
Turns out Lex wants to make a new continent with
Clark's crystals. This will put a lot of America underwater,
killing millions, if not billions. Let anyways, Lex pulls out
some kryptonite and notices Jason's reaction. Jason is the kid.
He quickly puts together who his dad is. While being held,
Lois tries to send a fact that's that definitely aged
this movie that in the flip phones. Tries to s

(32:11):
in ef facts for help, but Lexis goon stops her,
and to save his mom, Jason throws a piano at
the guy and actually kills him. So this kid killed
that guy. Jimmy got half the facts, which was the coordinates.
Superman goes to the coordinates, but then turns around to
save Metropolis like we were just talking about, and it
uh starts to because Metropolis starts to break, but James

(32:32):
Marston comes through on his actual plane and as the
crystal pierces the ot that they're in Richard, who's James
Marsden holds his son and he knocked out Lois as
they sink. This was a very like you know, they're
gonna be okay, but it was still a very sad moment.

Speaker 1 (32:45):
There is so nonverbal too, He's just chilling there the
whole time, just chill. He just vibes. No matter doesn't change.

Speaker 2 (32:53):
Does but just you see, like you know, a parent whole,
the two most important people in the world, and in
that moment, he probably assumes they're going to die.

Speaker 1 (33:05):
And that's got to be because Marston also doesn't know
that the kid has powers either.

Speaker 2 (33:11):
Oh no, he has no clue. Yeah, well then he
wasn't his. Good poor James Marsden know it wasn't his.

Speaker 1 (33:18):
He had to have known, right, he had to because
the timelines don't match up, because that kid's a little
older than five. That kid's like ten.

Speaker 2 (33:25):
Yeah, that kid did seem older, but she's not.

Speaker 1 (33:28):
Five years old. I'm sorry you were not passing that
child off as five years old.

Speaker 2 (33:32):
So there's a scene in Family Guy, and it came
out when this movie came out, and it was like
Superman goes to Lowis his house for a date, or
it's Clark and he uses his X ray vision and
see if she's pregnant, and he's like, oh, I gotta
go to Crypto by okay. So Superman does come to
the rescue, and he gets them back into Richard's plane
and kind of like throws the plane because he's like,
I can't take off. As Superman goes back to his fortress,

(33:54):
though a Lex is there ready to redecorate as he
kicks Superman's ass because he's got all that kryptonite. Lois
waits up in the plane and she insists they go
back because she knows that he has all this kryptnite
and they're gonna kill Superman. As Lex's goon's gang up
on Superman, Parker starts crying and once again let lexis
side piece sides with Superman. Then Lex stabs him with
kryptonite and tells him to fly. That was dark and

(34:15):
he falls into the water. Jason spots him, and Lois
jumps in and pulls him up and her and Richard
and they get him into the plane. Lois pulls out
the kryptonite and throws it into the ocean, and Superman
leaves to go back for Lex. The fortress begins to
collapse and Parker tosses out the crystals to save billions
of people as Superman gets rid of the land mask
covered in kryptonite. He then falls to Earth is rushed
to the hospital, where another shirt of the krypt Nite

(34:36):
is taken out, and he's declared dead in the papers,
but he's not actually dead.

Speaker 1 (34:39):
He's in it, and he just casually shows back up
at the end.

Speaker 2 (34:42):
Yeah right, yeah, Lois and Jason Will they go to
visit him in the hospital and she whispers something in
his ear which is clearly like, oh yeah, that was
funny because I didn't remember that part. I'm like, did
they really throw it white? I wasn't even thinking that.
I was just thinking of like snow white. And then
of course she rolls her own eyes at herself, so
I appreciated that.

Speaker 1 (35:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (35:00):
Suddenly the bed is empty, and then Superman goes to
see his son, but then he flies off without leaving
a single penny of child support.

Speaker 1 (35:07):
Do legit. Okay, thank you, thank you, because he shows
up and he's giving him that dad speech while the
kids asleep, and then he goes see around. Lois, Now,
hold time out, all right, soups brother brother, we need
to have a conversation. Okay, you just basically came and
said hi to your son and said, oh, tough kid
talking to me when you're eighteen, I don't have to
pay any of this child support and dips and then

(35:31):
Lois Lois like doesn't know your Clark Kent at all. Still,
this this is just very uncharacteristic.

Speaker 2 (35:38):
Okay, So here's my issue too. In the second Superman
is when she sleeps with him, but one she sleeps
with Clark, she sleeping.

Speaker 1 (35:48):
First.

Speaker 2 (35:49):
Yeah, so maybe the powers are dormant, maybe they're still
or maybe, you know, whatever, they had sex immediately, maybe
his sperm was still super But then he makes her
forget about that. So it's like like what, so did he?

Speaker 1 (36:02):
But then she knows what.

Speaker 2 (36:05):
Right, It's like did she just member?

Speaker 1 (36:08):
So? Did he right?

Speaker 2 (36:10):
Did he just make her forget that Clark is Superman?
I didn't.

Speaker 1 (36:13):
I don't know. There's a lot of now that it's
kind of crazy, you know, And not for nothing though,
I'm gonna give it. I liked Brandon Roath as Superman.
I thought that he was solid. Now I'm also that
the beginning, the whole beginning of the problems was the
fact that this Richard d Richard Donner signed off on

(36:34):
Singer's pitch for this movie like he actually enjoyed it,
which I think is a whole other interesting just the
Richard Donner. The the Richard Donner was like, yeah, no,
that's great because you know Brian Singer, who's a piece
of ship. First of all, uh, he conceived the storyline,
you know, while he was filming X two, and then

(36:56):
he presented this idea to Lauren Donner and her husband,
Richard Donner, and then Donner greeted Singer's idea with excitement.
He was like yeah. And now, actually, in March of
two thousand and four, Warner Brothers was trying to actually
make Superman fly By, which had a target theatrical release
date of June thousand and six, and Jj Abrams was
actually supposed to direct or do the script and ended

(37:19):
up dropping out in two thousand and four. So then
that's when Brian Singer got approached by Warner Brothers to
pitch his idea for this movie. And he was actually
on his way to Hawaii for whatever with his writers
from X two, and then they began outlining this in Hawaii,
and that's when he signed on to direct the film,
and Brian Singer was not even a comic book fan,
but he was impressed with the Donner's nineteen seventy eight

(37:40):
film and claimed it as an influence of his and
so he dropped out of X Men the Last Stand
to do this movie actually, and he had the Logan's
Run remake pushed back. And then this is when Superman
returns his finance fifty to fifty between Warer Brothers in
Legendary Pictures, and that's when they started all that stuff.
And actually Jim Caviezel was actually expressing interest at first

(38:02):
to play Superman, but they believed only an unknown actor
would be suitable for the part, and that's when Brandon
was basically cast and all of that stuff, and he
fun fact, Brandon Routh actually auditioned for Clark Kent in
the TV series Smallville, losing it to Tom Welling, which but.

Speaker 2 (38:20):
Then they both were in they both played Superman and
Crisis Yeahs, which I want to talk about that before
we go into the fun facts. Okay, I do want
to say they did a good job with this movie,
like the opening, like connecting it, like the opening, they
had that similar og like kind of can't be feel
with the letters. I thought that was great. And Ralph,
there were moments where he looked like Christopher Reeve.

Speaker 1 (38:41):
I think he did.

Speaker 2 (38:42):
I agree the angles and stuff, because you know, I.

Speaker 1 (38:46):
Feel like they both have that similar pronounced chin and
like the facial structures kind of similar, I feel like.

Speaker 2 (38:51):
But I'm so used to him as Ray Palmer, and
so they don't. You know, he's a little goofier as
Ray Palmer, and you get to see that big difference
if you go back and watch Crisis, because he played
opposite himself. But there's even whenever he says Lois, it
reminds me of Christopher Riez.

Speaker 1 (39:06):
Yeah, yeah, So I thought that was lot.

Speaker 2 (39:09):
I thought that was super sweet. Okay, so Crisis, I
had to go back to my YouTube. I did not
watch all of Crisis and watch these scenes again because
I remembered him showing up and I did remember that
he was Superman, but I did not remember the movie
or the specifics, so I.

Speaker 1 (39:23):
Don't I've never watched. I dropped off from there.

Speaker 2 (39:25):
Verse funny, you should go watch Crisis, though, that's worth watching.
So air overse. So in twenty nineteen, he reprised the
role in CW's Crisis on Infinite Earth's crossover event as
an older a Superman from an alternate universe that was
based on the Kingdom Come comic book series. So Superman
on Lois this is from the TV show Tyler Hawkland
and I don't remember her name. And Lois along with Iris,

(39:46):
goes to Earth ninety six and they meet Brandon Rel's
Superman as they're hunting down their legs. Oh and of
course their lex is the nephew of Gene Hackman from Superman.

Speaker 1 (39:58):
Oh three or four, I.

Speaker 2 (40:00):
Can't remember anyways, because it's the guy from Pretty and
Pink in two and a half Men, and they do
make So Ralph Superman meets Aero versus Superman and Lois's
son because they only have the one son in this
because this is a different multiverse. And he says in
this he looks just like my son Jason, which means
poor James Marsden did end up getting divorced, because then

(40:23):
he mentions that he did marry Lois and that she
was killed alongside Perry White and Jimmy Olsen when the
building was gassed by the Joker because the Joker felt
the Daily Planet didn't give him enough attention. So this
Superman was the paragon at truth, which is why they
were looking for him. James Marson characters never mentioned, but
he does marry Lois and Jason is still alive, and

(40:43):
so he does say that Jason is his son. They
do make a comment like, well, this guy looks just
like Ray Palmer, so they do say that, like immediately.
As a Terragon, he was supposed to be one of
the seven surviving individuals in the multiverse before Lex Luthor
of Earth thirty eight rewrote reality and replaced him. In
the end, he was resurrected though, when the Specter and
the Paragrins restored the multiverse, including restoring Earth ninety six,

(41:05):
where he was from. And we see Routh as Superman
fly by and give a little, you know, a little
Superman not so kudos to Randon Ralth who literally plays
Superman and Doctor Palmer in the same scene against him.
So he's doing the whole time that, Yeah, but he
looks like Clerk, but he's act because they know he's Superman,
so he's actually Superman. And then it's you know, Ray Palmer,
and it's like, oh.

Speaker 1 (41:27):
No, tech courtesy of Ray Palmer.

Speaker 2 (41:30):
So that's what we got. So here's some fun facts.

Speaker 1 (41:32):
Yes, did you know? Kevin Spacey was the only actor
considered for Lex Luthor only due to his Academy Award
winning performance in Brian Singer's nineteen ninety five The Usual
Suspects film. Interesting they wrote the part specifically for him,
and then with Lois Lane. Kevin Spacey actually recommended Kate
Bosworth because she had co starred with him and Beyond

(41:55):
the Sea in two thousand and four, and also Claire
Danes and Carrie Russell were all also considered, as well
as Amy Adams, who would actually be later cast as
loads Lane in twenty thirteen. She had auditioned in two
thousand and five, and she previously auditioned for Lois in
thousand and three when Brett Ratner was pinning to direct
Superman Flyby, so she was really gunning for that role.

(42:16):
Now these fats, she was me, don't worry about I
got I got my places. Bosworth the okay, oh you
have all these of course? Ah? Well yeah, sorry, okay.
Bosworth studied Catherine Hepburn's acting for inspiration, particularly in the
Philadelphia Story and Guess Who's Coming to Dinner as well.
As Julia robertson Aaron Brockovich and actually, fun fact, Hugh

(42:40):
Larry was actually cast as Perry White, but he was
unable to film due to filming house, and then Parker
Posey was the only actress considered there. And that's that's
what I have there. So go go ahead with your
fun facts. Don't let me take all the thunder you do. Though.

Speaker 2 (42:55):
She's still pretty. I loved her in Blue Crush and
she has the eyes, yeah, what are like?

Speaker 1 (43:00):
I thought? I thought she did a great job as Lewis. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (43:02):
My only complaint again was that she.

Speaker 1 (43:04):
She didn't have a lot to work.

Speaker 2 (43:05):
She didn't writ it was nobody, but she didn't even
try to put together that they were, you know, the
same person. So after Supermanlin's a plan on the baseball field,
he says he hopes this hasn't put anyone off of flying,
as it's still the safest way to travel. This is
actually not a Christopher Reeve's common in Superman nineteen seventy eight.
After rescuing Lois from the falling helicopter, he says, well,

(43:26):
I certainly hope this little incident hasn't put you off flying.
This statistically speaking, of course it's still the safest way
to travel. So again more inconsistency with Reeve. So Ralph
has brown eyes, so he had to wear blue contacts
for this, and he usually wears contacts, but he had
to have blue ones and he said that was like
a nightmare.

Speaker 1 (43:41):
I'm sure that. Well, I've heard they're really uncomfortable.

Speaker 2 (43:43):
Well, I guess you can like blank and they shift
and then you can't see. Oh yeah, they used to
be popular in like the nineties. I feel like people
who didn't even wear contacts were were.

Speaker 1 (43:51):
Well now people do it for like comic cons and
stuff like that.

Speaker 2 (43:53):
But yeah, well I think they've gotten better now because
even then when you well, no, maybe they haven't gotten better.
Maybe they just digitally do it a lot now, that's true.
All right. So when Brandon Rolth actually met Brian Singer,
he spilled his coffee, which helped him get the part
because it showed he could be Clerk in addition to
being Superman.

Speaker 1 (44:11):
I wonder if that was on was it an accidentally
on purpose of deal?

Speaker 2 (44:14):
Oh yeah, So Brandon Rolth actually auditioned for Clark and
Smallville as well, and of course I went to Tom Welling. Oh,
you said that earlier.

Speaker 1 (44:20):
Did ha this will know this was the first movie
to be converted too imax three D. I hate three
D movies.

Speaker 2 (44:28):
I don't know anybody who likes that.

Speaker 1 (44:30):
You you remember when they tried to make three D
a thing. They made three dtvs that came with a glass.
Oh my god, Thank Jesus. We are not living in
that alternate reality. We're just living in one that Actually,
I would probably go to that alternate reality if it
means all of this stuff is not happening that we're
currently living in.

Speaker 2 (44:48):
That's fair. I would take three D movies over that. Yeah.
And then they're like, but don't watch it for more
than forty five minutes.

Speaker 1 (44:53):
Yeah, I get headaches because you put it over your glasses. Headaches. Uh.
There was a ten million dollars deleted scene where kal
El boards a ship made of the same crystalline material
found in the Fortress of Solitude. He returns to his
home planet of Krypton. While surveying its remains, his ship
sustains damage, forcing him to high tillet back to Earth.

Speaker 2 (45:13):
That's crazy a lot of money, you know.

Speaker 1 (45:15):
There was gonna be a nine to eleven scene, singer said,
i'd have seen the script which I never shot, where
Superman would be standing after flying around rescue people at night,
would be standing at down at ground zero, just standing there,
almost as if to say, if I had been here,
this might not have been a thing.

Speaker 2 (45:29):
Yeah, no, I yeah, he made the right call, playing
out in good choice. Yeah, I was way too fresh.

Speaker 1 (45:37):
That would not have gone over well Superman being there yet, No,
that's that was too soon Man, too soon. And yeah,
so once you take us the rest of the ones
and then we'll kind of go into the erroverse a
little bit more, or do we already do all the aerroverse?
We did all the air verse.

Speaker 2 (45:50):
I'm sorry we didn't have to watch it, and then
we can talk about it, right.

Speaker 1 (45:54):
Well, still we got a couple thoughts and things like
that in the movie we can talk about so.

Speaker 2 (45:58):
Comic book, Jason Kent would the long lost son of Superman.
He got his powers later in life and was raised
by Batman. He's a cop by day and a Batman
by night. So Marlon Brando had passed before this came out. However,
with CGI and the permission of his estate, Superman in
nineteen seventy eights Jorell was ironically brought back to life.
So first Darrell was brought back to life via technology

(46:18):
and then Brando.

Speaker 1 (46:20):
That's true.

Speaker 2 (46:21):
And also that's another thing that makes it consistent with
the Reeve ones, which I did not put that together at.

Speaker 1 (46:26):
All the first time. I didn't either. I don't know why.
It just dawned on me. It shows you how much
I know.

Speaker 2 (46:30):
Uh. My last fundact is Brian Singer when Christopher Reeves
have a cameo. However, he passed before he had the chance.
As this came out less than two years after his passing,
it was dedicated him. Sadly, it was also dedicated to
Christopher Reeve's wife, Dana Reeve, who passed right before this
movie due to lung cancer.

Speaker 1 (46:47):
Oh wow, So.

Speaker 2 (46:49):
That poor woman spent a good decade of her life
taking care of her husband.

Speaker 1 (46:53):
Isn't she passes of cancer? This is how convinced he world, Okay,
you got things like this happening, while other Kevin Spacey's
of the world are out there just as bad as
his damn wig in this movie. First again, this movie,
they collection, they walk onto the boat and they see
a line of wigs and they freak out. I'm like that, Yeah,

(47:15):
I would too, because that is ridiculous. And you know,
this movie it makes a lot of sense now too,
because I feel like so much of this movie is
not even centered around the final part. It's it's got
random moments of Kevin Spacey walking into the museums and
doing in his little train station that he's got set up,
but a majority of it is Clark Superman rescuing people,

(47:38):
such as the plane, or just doing random stuff, or
doing that interview with Lois where he flies under the
sky and other parts like that. They they never really
it just kind of everything happens at the end, and
that's I feel like they made a mistake in not
having him having an actual villain. They just went back
to Lex Luthor right, and a whole come up and
happens between the two of them, all of I have

(48:00):
ten minutes where Kevin Spacey's Lex beats his ass and
then all of that kind of stuff, and then you know,
of course, he carries the thing into Earth space throws
it off into the although I don't know if he
threw it far enough away to not be in Earth's gravity,
but whatever.

Speaker 2 (48:12):
I know, it's like going to come back to earth
and destroy.

Speaker 1 (48:14):
It literally, like dude, you got to fly it a
little further away, and then he falls to Earth and
they also the other funny thing to me was them
wheeling him into a hospital, like dude, he's Superman. You
can't pierce his skin with an ivy or anything. You're
not going to be able to do anything for.

Speaker 2 (48:29):
Him, and then trying to save the hero.

Speaker 1 (48:33):
I know, but then at the end they're just like, oh,
Superman's dead, and it's I hated that for the aspect
of that's they wanted Superman to die almost in this movie,
but he doesn't. Clearly they had a chance to maybe
even set up a Doom's Day in this if they
really wanted to have him portrayed as dead.

Speaker 2 (48:48):
I wondered how much opportunity. But I wonder how much
they were going to set up, because this movie did
seem like they were connecting these old ones to the
new ones, and it did seem like they were going
to do more.

Speaker 1 (49:00):
It did. It did, And I do truly believe that
Brandon Ralph never got a fair shake or never got
his fair you know, applause for what he did in
this movie. I thought he was good. I really do.
There was the writing was just bad. I mean, they
didn't have a whole lot to work with. They really didn't.
And there is a good movie in there somewhere, And

(49:21):
I like him as Superman and Clark, and he's a
really cool guy. As we've seen, he can act, you know,
Ray Palmer. And then of course he gets his chance
to come back, and then we even got to kind
of see him interacting with people at comic cons and
things like that, so he has Yeah, I really think
he was. So I'm glad to have watched this again.
I realized I completely forgot so much of this movie. Uh,

(49:45):
but those are those are kind of my big thoughts here.
Do you have any big overarching thoughts about this movie
before we kind of wrap it up.

Speaker 2 (49:52):
No, I definitely liked it more than I remembered. I
think the main thing I did remember was Kate Bosworth
and the piano scene, like that was like the.

Speaker 1 (49:59):
Oh, oh, my god, I guess the dude with the
piano who's playing. Oh. That scene was also unhinged, like
there's just these random moments of just what.

Speaker 2 (50:08):
Yeah, and this kid committed his first murder at like
the age of six or whatever. He was a great guy.

Speaker 1 (50:16):
He's the greatest guy around. This kid listened and then, yeah,
poor James Marsden. Okay, justice for James Marsden, everybody. He
didn't deserve anything that happens to him in this movie.

Speaker 2 (50:27):
Okay, maybe that's why he bunny.

Speaker 1 (50:31):
He is the Easter Bunny.

Speaker 2 (50:33):
So it was Hugh Jackman who did it better?

Speaker 1 (50:35):
Is Hugh Jackman the Easter Bunny as well? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (50:38):
And Guardians Guardians of the Legends, the Rise of the Guardians.

Speaker 1 (50:43):
Oh, Guardians of the Legends. I feel like you're trying
to say something.

Speaker 2 (50:48):
I don't know what. I was like thinking Guardians of
the Galaxy, and then I started thinking Legends of the Legends,
Rise the Guardians. Oh my god, there's a fantastic movie.
And Hugh Jackman, Boy.

Speaker 1 (51:00):
Is these Is that the Owl one?

Speaker 2 (51:03):
Yeah, there's a tooth fairy in it?

Speaker 1 (51:05):
Then it must be. I don't know.

Speaker 2 (51:06):
I don't think I remember it's Easter and Jack Frost,
I don't remember this really did it? And then they
all helped get Easter back together, and.

Speaker 1 (51:14):
Like sounds like what they wanted The League of Extraordinary
Gentlemen to be. But that movie also flopped, and there's.

Speaker 2 (51:18):
Like Memories in the Teeth of children.

Speaker 1 (51:21):
What that's creepy.

Speaker 2 (51:24):
The movie is really cute. It's a really like next.

Speaker 1 (51:27):
Sounds the Memories of children in their teeth, But.

Speaker 2 (51:30):
It's like, these are the Guardians, They're the you know,
the things of childhood. There's a Sandman's in it. Remember
Jack Frost. It shows how he became Jack Frost because
he died like saving. As I watch this, Jaan's mad
at him because of the easter that he made. It
really cold and snow and all the eggs were frozen,
and then the els are helping paint the eggs.

Speaker 1 (51:52):
Well, I got good news for you the Lauren, because
we're gonna be in Asheville this weekend. I'm bringing my projector.

Speaker 2 (51:58):
Watching the Guardians.

Speaker 1 (52:00):
I have a We're gonna we have a hot tub,
and I think we're gonna get a bunch of No, dude,
we have Henry Cavill. Next week we're talking Henry Cavill.
We're gonna watch Batman v.

Speaker 2 (52:11):
Superman Jesus Christ. We have to record before we go.
Are we recording there? I don't want to watch Batman
Verus Superman again? I was just gonna watch Man. Deal.

Speaker 1 (52:19):
Fine, Okay, I guess you're right. Recording before we go,
dang it. I was like, dang, we're about to get
wasted and watch Batman v. Superman and you're gonna admit
that you like the movie and I'm gonna have it
on camera. I don't see that happening, all right, Fine,
so that guess that's not happening. Sorry, Yes, we are
talking Henry Cavill's Superman use ai.

Speaker 2 (52:37):
I just love Batman Versus Superman. It's the greatest movie.

Speaker 1 (52:42):
All right, I'm not real. All right, that's us this week.
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Speaker 2 (53:13):
Thanks for having love Henry cavill mm hmm,