April 27, 2025 • 58 mins
Matt and Lauren are joined by Megan of @VigilanteVibesPod to discuss characters with the same name in both Marvel and DC!
Who came first? Why are there two Captain Marvels, Deathstroke v Deadpool?
We dive into these character similarities and bring to you some history!
Shoutout to Jerald for the video content!
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Who came first? Why are there two Captain Marvels, Deathstroke v Deadpool?
We dive into these character similarities and bring to you some history!
Shoutout to Jerald for the video content!
Make sure to subscribe and follow us on social media: linktr.ee/hopsgeeknews linktr.ee/vigilantevibespodcast
Find us all on www.nerdinitiative.com
Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/hops-geek-news--5686721/support.
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Speaker 1 (00:27):
Hey, you know, shout out to you guys. First of all, like,
that's really cool of you, man.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
That's what it's all about, right there.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
That legitimately, whether it's comic books, whether it's Emo.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Night Like, first and foremost, I was forged in every
Warped Tour mosh pit back in the day. August Burn's
read like writing right in the temple, many of its
concussions ringing the horizon before they went softer.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
You know, that's what it's all about. So thank you, guys,
first and foremost.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Second of all, thank you to my Man's night Wing
for this really cool three D bring.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
This is really dope, man. I fucking love this. I
love this stuff and this is so super cool.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
We thought it last night.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
I was like, Wow, that's amazing. Anybody who missed it
last night. I promise you we're not gonna get into.
Speaker 4 (01:11):
Many arguments, maybe maybe arguments tonight.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
My laptop's over here, Megan, Can I beg ask you
to grab my laptops because we have tonight we are
talking about comic book doubles.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
So we know Marvel did it, we know DC did it.
Speaker 4 (01:26):
We got Slade Wilson, we got Wade Wilson.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
You know, we have all these sorts of characters and
things that Captain Marvel?
Speaker 1 (01:33):
Wait, is that Carol Danvers? Is that Shazam?
Speaker 4 (01:36):
What is it?
Speaker 2 (01:37):
So we thought, hey, why don't we clear some things up.
We talked about him a little bit. It's not gonna
be so crazy like last night, but you know, I
hope it kind of is, because I love argument. Last
night was the best. Uh So, first and foremost, if
you guys don't know who we are, I am Matt,
This is Lauren, This is Megan.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
Lauren and I do a podcast together called popsky Us.
We're doing it for five years. That started in COVID.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
We were raised money for local breweries to support them
and their staff during the pandemic when they couldn't pay
their staff. We were trying to do that and we
found out.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
That we both hate Game Thrones. Ending together.
Speaker 5 (02:10):
Well, there are some different feelings on that, but basically
we talk about reason we go off on tangent.
Speaker 6 (02:15):
I didn't hate the Game of Thrones.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
I mean, I just don't love it. I just think.
Speaker 5 (02:19):
She loved Batman the Superman as much as I do.
That's not true. He loves Batman versus Superman. This is
what I got.
Speaker 7 (02:27):
Wasn't going to be an argumentative.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
Okay, Alrightman Superman is over.
Speaker 6 (02:39):
Hated, but it's also not.
Speaker 7 (02:45):
Whouse was alright, you're right, I said, we weren't. You know,
we're gonna say it, so we do that. Megan here
does a really awesome podcast. Why don't you tell them
about your podcast?
Speaker 1 (02:59):
I haven't non toxic Marvel podcast.
Speaker 8 (03:01):
That means no racism, sexism, homophobia, all the stuff that
runs rampant and all the fandoms and vigilant.
Speaker 4 (03:09):
She does that.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
She runs a Facebook group called the nerd Haven, which is.
Speaker 6 (03:13):
Also non toxic, fifty nine thousand people.
Speaker 4 (03:16):
She walks it down.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
It's really actually impressive.
Speaker 4 (03:18):
I'm not really impressive.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
But aside from that, she responds, she does.
Speaker 4 (03:23):
And aside from that, the three of.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
Us work together. I run TV and film. Megan is
my partner in crime.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
But all three of us also do comic book reviews
for nerds midship dot com, and.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
So we don't know everything. So I'm not gonna sit
here and tell you that we're experts. Right, even Jesus
made mistakes, is what I like to say.
Speaker 6 (03:39):
Right, they're not beer, but.
Speaker 4 (03:43):
We're here just kind of talk about comic books.
Speaker 9 (03:45):
Man.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
I mean, we're at Comic Con, Galaxy Con, and I
feel like we've almost lost the comic aspect of Comic Con,
whereas there's right now, I don't know if you guys
are up to date on all of the comic books
out there right now, Absolute Series from DC in Amazing
Image Comics is doing some of the best comic books.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
Minor Threats from dark Horse. They're they're We're like another
Golden Age.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
So we thought it'd be fun to talk about who
did it first because there's so many movies.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
James Gunn's restarting the d CU. We also have Marvel
on Phase something with Robert Downey Junior is coming back.
Speaker 4 (04:21):
We've got this won't.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
Be as long as the X Men reveal or the
Doomsday if you will reveal.
Speaker 4 (04:27):
There's still like Zack Snyder touch, you.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
Know, five hours to look at some chairs I don't have.
Speaker 8 (04:33):
Only Marvel can make me sit there and look at
some damn chair in none of them and record myself
do it.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
We already know jackmans coming.
Speaker 10 (04:45):
So what do we what do we have?
Speaker 4 (04:47):
First, guys? What do we kick with the most obvious one?
What is the most obvious one that we kind.
Speaker 8 (04:50):
Of have about what do you say, what is the
most obvious?
Speaker 11 (04:54):
What do you think the.
Speaker 5 (04:54):
Most obvious record name war in Auckaman.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
Okay, yeah, that's a great one.
Speaker 4 (04:58):
Go ahead, record, Ralph.
Speaker 6 (05:02):
You don't have to raise your hands.
Speaker 4 (05:03):
You get to stand up and talk.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
So Deadpool and that's the one we were starting with.
Speaker 5 (05:08):
Yeah, so slaveh Wilson and Wade Wilson. It's like they
weren't even trying to be subtle.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
But I feel it's about as subtle as Rob Leinefield
can draw chests and feet and everything else.
Speaker 5 (05:22):
But the Shingans do you look at Deadpool, and said Wilson,
and you think these are very different characters. But when
Deadpool was first introduced, they were not very different characters.
We didn't get the fourth wall breaking or anything like
that until issue twenty eight with Deadpoole with Joe Kelly
and Pete Woods.
Speaker 6 (05:37):
And that is the first time he broke the fourth wall.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
Before that he was a little more serious.
Speaker 6 (05:41):
So that is what we could get up. I saw
another hand back there. So who did you have your
doctor games?
Speaker 5 (05:45):
Who?
Speaker 4 (05:50):
Yes, yes, Green Arrow and.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, oh, all these on the list.
Speaker 4 (06:02):
Century, we are Superman.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
I think, yeah, well that's like that's probably the most
obvious aside from Slay and Wade.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
Right, that's the moment.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
She's so, why don't we start off with some because
do you have a little bit into death Pool? No?
Speaker 2 (06:23):
Well, Slave Wilson slash death joke was actually introduced obviously
on the newteen Titans?
Speaker 1 (06:29):
Is she number two?
Speaker 2 (06:29):
On December tenth, nineteen eight, So Lauren, when was Deadpool
actually first.
Speaker 6 (06:34):
Introduced new mutants ninety nineteen ninety so a whole decades later.
Speaker 5 (06:39):
But again, like I said before, it didn't get us
to dead Hool twenty eight, or we actually got.
Speaker 4 (06:44):
The ideas first, Yeah, not so much.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
All right, I'm just saying, wait, all right, we'll keeping
him respectful.
Speaker 10 (06:59):
Exactly what do you?
Speaker 3 (07:00):
What do you have?
Speaker 9 (07:01):
You?
Speaker 1 (07:04):
All right, so let's jump Tom.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
We will jump to Moon Batman because that's another really
big one, right Batman is perhaps I know how many Batman.
Speaker 12 (07:13):
Comic books are on the shelves right now there the
limit does not exist, but only I will I will
say that Batman comics right now.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
There's dark patterns.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
If you haven't read that, it's five about three five
issues in five issues in Solid Scott Snyder and.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
What he's doing in the Absolute series, like the Absolute
If you guys don't know, it's right, that whole Absolute
with d. C. All End is reimagining.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
These heroes origin stories. So the Absolute series Batman first
of all, his Absolute this guy.
Speaker 13 (07:49):
He is twenty, like my god, chess baby twenty Yeah, yeah, Derek,
this dude is huge.
Speaker 4 (08:01):
And then they've also released the cover.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
Of like Bane with his tiny head, and Baine is huge, stupid.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
What's what Scott's doing is really because he got me
reback into comic books with the core battles and the music.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
One of the few bright spots in the New fifty two.
Speaker 4 (08:16):
Uh, I'm in DC.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
Guys need their marble, but there there are some bright spots.
But we're right, we're not fighting tonight.
Speaker 5 (08:27):
Actually, since Daredel came back, he's really leaning mar We
almost got tattoos.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
Today and they're like we were, so we were, and
we're gonna get the sillo out of Daredel And the
guy was like the min it was one thinking.
Speaker 14 (08:41):
I was like, you should be honored. I have a
fucking bluey in hot dog tattoo. So to add to
this beautiful arm of mine for a silhouette that's like
the size of my will to live.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
No, yeah, that was yeah, I don't you if anybody's
looking for tattoos, I'm kind of sorry, not that you
came for the tattoos. Anyways, Batman, and you know they
said moon Night, Yes, yes, the Moon.
Speaker 5 (09:10):
Night though, so Batman's obviously nineteen thirty nine, so clearly
he came first. The Moon Night wasn't until aware by
Night number thirty two, that's August seventy five. So I
always wondered that maybe it's because I'm not a huge
DC fan and I'm more Marvel. Why do people compare
Batman and Moon Night so much? And who Obviously Batman's
weren't popular.
Speaker 11 (09:29):
Yeah, I mean, but you that's sick that I original
for what I remember not talking to Bob Kane years
ago that he stole it from Bill Finger.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
Bill Finger, Okay, so that's actually good. So Bob king
and Bill Finger, if you don't.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
Know, there was a big controversy.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
So Bob Kinge was always credited with creating Batman, and
the first iteration of Batman looked.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
More like he had a red cake like it was weird.
Speaker 4 (09:56):
He was red.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
It didn't fit the vibe at all. He's more like
a vampire, is kind of how they introduced him.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
And that was in nineteen thirty nine, around the time
that Superman was coming out, and they wanted to kind
of copy the essence of Superman, if you will, And
so after that they decided.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
To go a different route, and that's where they gave
him the purple gloves.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
And it's still which you get the purple gloves in
some iterations, which Batman here one I thought was a
pretty good storyline.
Speaker 4 (10:27):
Crusader on Amazon Prime.
Speaker 10 (10:28):
Yeah, they has that.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
Yeah, And so that was like how they reimagined Batman,
you know that to kind of diversify him from Okay,
he's not so.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
Much Superman because Superman is vastly different. I thought, I'm sorry,
be talking a lot.
Speaker 4 (10:49):
Listen, they buddh us last night in a good way. Okay,
it's got so for.
Speaker 6 (10:53):
Me, Batman's ganger is iron Man. Does anybody else feel
like that's.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
More ironlaneurs that's a good point. So that's what I said, Bruce,
Wayne and iron Man.
Speaker 5 (11:04):
So Batman didn't feel the need to have like a
secret identity. I feel like him and iron Man would
be on the same page.
Speaker 6 (11:10):
But I feel like Badman.
Speaker 4 (11:11):
Gets off on but does Batman.
Speaker 15 (11:14):
I feel like recently Batman's been getting more and closer
to iron Man actually, since like the development of the
gadgets are leaning less away from his detect feels more
like what he has.
Speaker 5 (11:24):
Access to right primarily, and they're both incredibly intelligent, and
the only way they're consideringly they're humans, rich Newts, nothing
like that. Yeah, they're rich and they're smart, and they're playboys.
They're playboy philanthropists.
Speaker 6 (11:38):
Yeah, genius.
Speaker 16 (11:41):
There's there's more in that as far as like the
comparison between the two. There's more in that for Batman
because they oh my god, the last few major ones
of Batman have made it. It's like very clear there's
a massive difference between Bruce Wayne and Batman, where there's
not that much difference between iron.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
Man and stuff good.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
I know it's that in a stad uh blue shirt. Sorry,
I don't want to, but blue shirt had something to
I'm just saying.
Speaker 17 (12:06):
That when it comes to iron Man and Batman, it's
not really a similarity to the Ulter he goes more.
It is really just a similarity to who they are
under the mask. And again, iron Man has only gotten
more popular partially due to Robert Downey Junior, and honestly,
(12:29):
to a degree, it's a good thing Batman keeps a
secret identity and stuff, because if he does, the whole
thing is if to we start gets into a bunch
of controversial situations that makes people question his sanity as
iron Man. Bruce Wayne's doing a bunch of crazy stuff
(12:49):
and usually that stuff's on purpose.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
They don't think he's Batman like some rich dude.
Speaker 18 (12:56):
Yeah, you know Celtic version, right, the iron Man that
gave up with and the Marvel Unison used.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
It record, Ralph, what'd you have did?
Speaker 3 (13:06):
John?
Speaker 11 (13:10):
You know?
Speaker 6 (13:11):
I just.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
Yes, you see what he does? Don't know, but you're right.
So I feel like.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
Tony Stark is, there's not much of a difference between
the two of them, whereas Batman is the main character
in Bruce Wayne is just kind.
Speaker 9 (13:34):
Of recently from John Champion show when they were talking
about the big Ben Affleck article that came out about
why he was bad at Batman and why he and
part of it was way that he was acting and.
Speaker 3 (13:47):
Thought that he was a bad person at times.
Speaker 10 (13:48):
There's no doctor.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
But Josh Champion said he liked about Ben Affleck.
Speaker 9 (13:52):
Was he the only one who pretended to play Batman
but actually with being Bruce Wayne, like he played Bruce
Wayne as like, oh Batman through this guy the Delvis
Bruce Wayne. There are these fancy parties and stuff, but
you don't really want to and you really want to
do the Batman thing.
Speaker 11 (14:07):
Yea.
Speaker 6 (14:09):
So how many people here like the Batman I did?
Speaker 18 (14:13):
I loved it?
Speaker 10 (14:14):
How many it?
Speaker 1 (14:17):
It's unfortunate we may never get a sequel.
Speaker 10 (14:19):
Anyway, So I did not care for it.
Speaker 5 (14:22):
I thought he was a great Batman. I thought it
was a terrible Bruce Wayne. He was, and he didn't
do the facade of Bruce's learning.
Speaker 6 (14:30):
This is not after place.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
So easy.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
Okay, all right, before we get to you hold, I'm
gonna hear from the negative side, or not the negative,
the disagreement that's why you didn't like.
Speaker 19 (14:43):
His Bruce Wayne or from my view is be Batman
is easy because you just put a cowl on it
and that's it.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
You don't have to act out it.
Speaker 20 (14:56):
Mhm is the directors and they said about daughter who's
doing the job from you, But to be the whole
thing you need to do believable Bruce Wayne.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
And that's where they I can come Sam, and I
think that's where he failed.
Speaker 4 (15:11):
Blue Shirt.
Speaker 17 (15:13):
I was just gonna say one thing I actually did
like hibout that and was how they did the reveal
of Bruce's father having a connection to that was something
that they actually I actually read from an actual old
Batman com which I actually like a lot, not just
putting any spoilers out there, but.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
Just the one thing that spoilers.
Speaker 5 (15:41):
I mean, you're not going to get rich without you know,
we're doing a little so that makes sense.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
What I don't believe.
Speaker 17 (15:54):
I like the movie A live I do agree like
the Bruce Wayne aspect was really.
Speaker 21 (15:58):
Because Matt rags you know, he said he was inspired
by like Kurt Cobain and like.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
This isolation this movie.
Speaker 21 (16:07):
But I think it led you know, might.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
Come out Robert Robert Pattinson might be ninety.
Speaker 21 (16:15):
But I think like it like it led on to
Like I think it was like the mayor was like
were the woman that was going to become mayor was like,
you know, we need to see more of you and
things like that, So I think it might fil to
like get.
Speaker 4 (16:28):
Bruce Wayne thank you.
Speaker 6 (16:30):
Okay, I feel like it was good for it because
he's a year one Batman.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
He's year one, he's year two.
Speaker 12 (16:36):
Okay, so but he's so focused on being Batman and
fixing that way and the whole point of the Batman.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
I know we have devolved into a discussion about the Batman.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
But what was the fact that he had to learn
how to duel because even with Andy Serviss Alfred, he
was like, hey, you still need to like even pretty
more depth to it because.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
Robert Pattinson.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
Not the fire.
Speaker 9 (17:02):
For her.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
She hasn't seen the lighthouse, you know, but I haven't
heard that way.
Speaker 4 (17:10):
He has to learn to be Bruce Wayne.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
And my what I saw your hand up back there.
Speaker 10 (17:15):
Yeah, yes, exactly.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
Yeah, he has to learn to be Bruce Wayne.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
He knows how to be Batman kind of. He was
very focused on the detective asset. We listen, we're gonna
Tauber Galaxy, run panels, panels, different things, Red Hook, what
do you have?
Speaker 22 (17:45):
I mean, yeah, yeah, you had to learn.
Speaker 15 (17:48):
That.
Speaker 11 (17:49):
He went into directed, but at first he was Marble,
the hero of realistic there's rather than oh god, you.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
Need a room, know, I'm you so obsessed with me,
I'm just kidding, So yes, I do agree with that.
Speaker 15 (18:06):
Like iron Man and had to learn how to be
iron Man to be a hero, learn how to be
a hero because well to like reference the dm CU again.
Speaker 22 (18:18):
That happens person like, Yeah, but I want to hear
and so he's learning, So I really.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
Do want to hear what you're say.
Speaker 18 (18:30):
I'm scarping, I was saying earlier with that Batman usually
when he's bad, as like in the comic, he's just
a d C style superhero that's like a godlike figure.
Speaker 4 (18:41):
But make him good.
Speaker 9 (18:42):
He's a detective, and that's more like a Marvel hero,
where he's like an actual, you know, an actual person
Marvel hero and.
Speaker 10 (18:50):
We're going to.
Speaker 4 (18:52):
I want to I want to evolve.
Speaker 6 (18:54):
So iron Man has that. I don't give how many
people like kill So how do you think.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
That it's more of a form.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
It's more like a.
Speaker 6 (19:02):
Kills a lot of people and does not care.
Speaker 3 (19:05):
He doesn't care, but.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
Yourself.
Speaker 5 (19:09):
Now, Batman is like Scaredevil in regardless they go out
of their way to make sure they're not killing people,
even though I'm sure a lot of those people have
brain bleas and dies later.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
But we don't know Batman so many times has said
you've got sixteen minutes in the hospital, buddy, you'll be fine.
A lot of the people that are villains that we know,
and then they even there. I can't spoil it because
it doesn't coming out yet. There is some pretty clever
takes on mister Freeze coming up.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
But if you're a fan of like Black Mask, some
of the most metal stuff I have seen in the
comic book was an absolute Batman issue six.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
Where he punts a child. He punts, there's a villains,
please sir the kid, and I think at first.
Speaker 10 (20:02):
You did.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
Okay, he saved the kids, like, but he punts a child.
I was like, hey, the mom didn't come afterwards. Not
forget about that upwards and then stabbed Black Mask. We're
gonna hold on my man's here, you kid.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
I mean, I have two kids and I think about
punking them often, and I have a snack.
Speaker 4 (20:29):
You just have seventeen.
Speaker 3 (20:32):
Very very.
Speaker 6 (20:44):
Okay, So let's go.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
So somebody is there. I'm gonna totally pull it back. Yeah, no,
we want to go back tonight.
Speaker 4 (20:50):
Like we did not do last night.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
Listen, there was no actually after us.
Speaker 6 (20:55):
Okay, so raise your hand if you think name.
Speaker 3 (20:57):
War is better than th name More?
Speaker 2 (21:00):
Yeah, but is it because because he killed a basin
better than better Aquaman?
Speaker 4 (21:10):
I don't know. I'm gonna put up the red race.
Speaker 3 (21:14):
You go, also ever talking swag?
Speaker 1 (21:21):
Hold on, hold on.
Speaker 4 (21:28):
Blackman.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
Okay, I love Aquaman, but the More totally steals.
Speaker 4 (21:35):
Raises off the charts.
Speaker 10 (21:36):
But I love everyone here.
Speaker 4 (21:41):
You don't kiss me? And where's off the charts?
Speaker 1 (21:44):
The legal Yeah, government, apparently it's okay. One game game.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
I'm gonna say about Well, Okay, may More did come
out before he did. I'm just gonna say this. May
Moore has been horrifyingly inconsistently radio.
Speaker 6 (22:09):
He is as far as actually.
Speaker 3 (22:11):
Believed to be of.
Speaker 17 (22:14):
His whole personality is actually believed to be theorically caused
by a real world tradifficult the.
Speaker 23 (22:19):
Bend, which is were air bubbles in your blood kind
of going unnaturally from it's the pressurization, and like.
Speaker 3 (22:32):
He's just like astron he is. He is usually more
consistently a hero.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
I actually so, I feel like it's a big problem
in comics, really.
Speaker 6 (22:44):
Interesting to science like that.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
I think that's absolutely agreed.
Speaker 4 (22:49):
I feel like a big p.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
With Aquaman and The more is nobody knows how to
write the two almost Sometimes I will say, Jeremy Adams
again the Absolute series is doing really good job of it.
Speaker 4 (23:01):
But it's because a couple.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
Of episodes of Yes did Supernatural and.
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So he did Scuomy Natural and then he did Missus
Butters Scooby Natural.
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Doesn't Oh I love Scooby.
Speaker 10 (23:22):
This just finished.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
I just finished Supernatural for the first time. That's not this.
But Jeremy's doing a great job, and it's almost like,
what do I do with this character?
Speaker 2 (23:33):
Like how many times they've written as jokes they swimming
water fast power.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
I don't like that they always.
Speaker 6 (23:38):
Make fun of look at the Deep and the boys.
Speaker 5 (23:40):
Why are I always making fun of people because they
love the We make fun of the.
Speaker 4 (23:50):
Figure out what makes black Man.
Speaker 3 (23:55):
A lot?
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But it's hard like black but oh My, Yes.
Speaker 15 (24:02):
Super Friends damage to Aman but they didn't do it
black Man d black Man.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
Black Man is one of my favorite villains because he's
such he was. I still think that he is.
Speaker 4 (24:14):
And I love Petty Dyllan.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
I love Petty like.
Speaker 6 (24:20):
Birth Back, No More one s show bad.
Speaker 3 (24:22):
He'll do whatever things together.
Speaker 5 (24:23):
Like Game Bro.
Speaker 3 (24:25):
I mean, I.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
Like you guys, had your.
Speaker 4 (24:36):
Okay, So I wouldn't.
Speaker 1 (24:37):
Want to say like, ok so, first off, when he
comes down to the right, wouldn't we appreciate Raymond and chilling?
Speaker 16 (24:44):
Do we appreciate eddy hero or petty villains more because
we like edy heroes that I'm sorry but like Aban
is not matching.
Speaker 3 (24:51):
Up to the more.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
But if you appreciate like Penny villains more, we almost
love was black d black Man black Well, I do.
Speaker 4 (25:03):
The older I get in, the more.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
I always jump around down.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
I'm like, don't give me superpowers because as much as
I want to save the world, like my god, you
people make it so hard sometimes that I would absolutely.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
Be like a Doom like character because what the hell.
Speaker 5 (25:19):
Is going on?
Speaker 1 (25:21):
Just what world underd is?
Speaker 24 (25:22):
Tell me one thing, and that's I think, just strong,
independent man with a steel mask.
Speaker 4 (25:32):
All people.
Speaker 18 (25:35):
Good Mariner much better because they wrote him what the
re wrote him say, did to be.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
The first mutant ever?
Speaker 3 (25:42):
And then it rerode him again where he's.
Speaker 18 (25:44):
The Mexican version or the early Mexican version, was a
panther where his mother.
Speaker 3 (25:49):
Took the fruit of their.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
I do want to there is in case you don't know,
d C D D C rigged off. They're with their
own red lion. Actually, yeah, exactly. Matthew Matthew Bland is
(26:11):
the President for life of the African nation of Burundia.
He was introduced in Death Stroke Rebirth number one, October
twenty sixteen.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
Not a good guy.
Speaker 4 (26:21):
He has a very bright red costume.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
He's got like the Mufasa a little looking around him.
Speaker 10 (26:27):
It's it's yeah, yeah, b U r E d u
n I.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
A Vixen is good. Well, they introduced Vixen back when
Arrow versus a thing. We had the animated Vixen series
that started.
Speaker 4 (26:53):
It was gone altogether.
Speaker 5 (27:01):
There's nothing comparable.
Speaker 4 (27:06):
Well, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
I saw, which I will see it doesn't because Satanna's
kind of differently, but they're the same.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
Marvel right doctor Yeah, okay, so Doctor Strange actually that
you bring him up.
Speaker 4 (27:19):
We had Doctor Fate. Yeah, you got doctor Dream doctor.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
Real quick, really quick.
Speaker 8 (27:26):
Who do you guys think would win in a fight?
Speaker 1 (27:27):
Doctor Favorite, Doctor Doctor Fate?
Speaker 8 (27:30):
But would you say that about the original Doctor Strange
against where the new Doctor Strange.
Speaker 4 (27:35):
Against doctor We're not going to argue.
Speaker 6 (27:38):
I want to argue tonight.
Speaker 3 (27:41):
It's weird because.
Speaker 4 (27:45):
Doctor who can.
Speaker 6 (27:51):
I pay money to see that?
Speaker 11 (27:54):
Yeah, But.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
Like I was gonna say, those two.
Speaker 10 (27:59):
It's a off.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
So he can see Doctor Stranger, Doctor Fate, doctor Fate.
Speaker 6 (28:05):
Actually I do.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
But here's the thing with doctor Fate is Doctor Fate's
powers to his helmet.
Speaker 1 (28:12):
Though, where's doctor Straight I guess, yes, that's right, right,
your pears crossed.
Speaker 6 (28:22):
I always feel like doctor Strange is too cocky and
that works against him. I like his vacuum, I think,
And I was like, maybe just I mean for me,
maybe that's why.
Speaker 5 (28:31):
But somebody did ask about quick Silver and Flash forty
nineteen sixty four.
Speaker 6 (28:38):
Yeah, Flash, that's a big difference.
Speaker 4 (28:40):
We're not going to get into Burry.
Speaker 6 (28:43):
All we know is Berry's not the fast man a wife,
even though he's labeled the.
Speaker 4 (28:45):
Fast Barry always called him.
Speaker 5 (28:48):
Is somebody back there doing stretching stretch one?
Speaker 1 (28:52):
Jesus, well, she had a tiger. That's another good one
right there.
Speaker 4 (28:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (29:00):
I forget the actual comic books, but I haven't posted
on my walls.
Speaker 11 (29:04):
Whoever it is.
Speaker 3 (29:05):
But describe this common panel right after the presis of
implant ears the press and they're doing.
Speaker 17 (29:16):
A speech to Race and Mark, and there's a random
speech that shows up out of blue and color the.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
Name very alien, and he wins the race.
Speaker 4 (29:27):
Even so, even Fairy is all.
Speaker 8 (29:30):
Of the.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
Does that run death?
Speaker 19 (29:38):
That's been a thing you had your hand up. Yes, both,
I mean I'm something if created as how is Wally classic?
Wally is more in tune with the speed what Uni?
Speaker 4 (30:06):
Yeah, universe?
Speaker 5 (30:07):
Okay, so it's kind of like the guy who created
the person who created the Internet is not as good
on the Internet as my seven year old because he
grew up with the Internet.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
That's yes, Actually it's a really good analogy about.
Speaker 4 (30:23):
True.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
We're talking about college.
Speaker 4 (30:28):
Interest rates more or less.
Speaker 1 (30:35):
Yeah, all right.
Speaker 4 (30:37):
Somebody said dark Side and Thanels earlier to.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
Which dark Side?
Speaker 4 (30:41):
Okay, so not a movie.
Speaker 2 (30:46):
I love It's so again I love a petty villain,
so yes, so dark Side was actually no.
Speaker 1 (31:01):
Dark Side was first. He came up in Superman. He
was so Superman's pal.
Speaker 2 (31:05):
Jimmy Olsen number one, thirty four, nineteen seventy, whereas Danos
appeared in Ironman fifty five and nineteen seventy two. Thanos
was created by Jim Starling and Mike Frederick, who even
admitted that DC's dark Side was an inspiration, because Marvel
was essentially like, I don't care what it takes.
Speaker 4 (31:22):
We need to copy what Dark.
Speaker 3 (31:24):
Side is doing.
Speaker 6 (31:25):
A comment.
Speaker 1 (31:27):
Black Cat mar We yes, okay, we do have that
on here, it's done here.
Speaker 10 (31:33):
Where was it?
Speaker 6 (31:33):
I think we have Raymond on here too, find it.
Speaker 16 (31:41):
Yeah, we were just talking about that, Spider manders.
Speaker 1 (31:48):
Hold on before we get hold on, before we get there, though,
we do have cat Woman and Black Cat.
Speaker 8 (31:52):
Who do you think came out first? Yeah, thirty nine
years before. Yes, yeah, that's that's why.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
So Batman issue one nineteen forty was Catwoman.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
Yeah, black Cat came out the Amazing Spider Man ninety
four nineteen se oh.
Speaker 5 (32:10):
When we were talking about this, we actually compared Raven
to Magic So Eleianna.
Speaker 6 (32:15):
Anybody watched X Men, the animated series.
Speaker 1 (32:17):
Yes, so.
Speaker 6 (32:23):
That's what we are arguing that it's Raven. So Raven
came out in October.
Speaker 5 (32:29):
Nineteen eighty and Elianna came out in Giant's X Men
number one, seventy five.
Speaker 6 (32:33):
But people, you guys think that Raven is more doppel
ganger for Scarlett.
Speaker 1 (32:37):
Which earlier I don't know if she has one.
Speaker 8 (32:45):
Yeah, we were talking about some that just don't have
a doctor Ganger at least yet. Yeah, I mean, because
that's gonna happen.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
Hold on, Raygan, what did you have?
Speaker 6 (32:55):
But I'm agree with them. I think it's a valid.
Speaker 2 (33:01):
Because it's mostly just like, Yeah, I mean, Raven's power
comes a little bit more from.
Speaker 4 (33:09):
Right, similar characters.
Speaker 1 (33:15):
As they exist.
Speaker 5 (33:16):
Longer, right, well, and you have the same artists and
writers go from DC to Marvel back and forth.
Speaker 1 (33:26):
So yeah, I mean the pool right now is working
for Marvel for example.
Speaker 6 (33:30):
Yeah, a lot of them are. I mean you look
at the high mind like from mar.
Speaker 4 (33:34):
Yeah, what do you have? We were talking about that,
weren't we?
Speaker 6 (33:44):
So I actually could forget boys, but I was trying
to get it.
Speaker 5 (33:50):
But Robert Kirkman though, But like Robert Kirkman and Garth
Ennis aren't being subtle and the fact that they're ripping
off and making parodies of these characters, So I feel
like that's a little different words Lucas.
Speaker 1 (34:03):
He said, I.
Speaker 3 (34:07):
I know what he actually likes.
Speaker 17 (34:14):
A superheroes, and a lot of his work is just
how much heats. It comes hard to divorce too, because
he puts a lot of.
Speaker 3 (34:30):
Emotion into the boys.
Speaker 2 (34:34):
So fun fact, we've actually have talked about this with
Derek Robertson, who is the artist for The Boys, and
they kind of touch on that a little bit.
Speaker 5 (34:43):
And I have one of the questions I had when
we interviewed him, was was it ever difficult to draw
these scenes because they're dark?
Speaker 6 (34:49):
And he immediately was like, no, I have a sick mind.
That's one of the highlights of our podcast.
Speaker 5 (34:55):
I was like, but no, I do understand that, And like,
I guess for me because I enjoy it, and I
love it so much, I can enjoy the satire of
it while realizing this is this may not be coming
from like and like, what Robert Krooky is doing is
not as bad as what Garth and it's creative. But
then when you see God from Supernatural doing the things
(35:17):
he's done, I'm.
Speaker 6 (35:19):
Just here for the rise. I'm just enjoying it. Are
you watching The Boys?
Speaker 3 (35:23):
I am watching it. I'm not saying that, I'm saying.
Speaker 6 (35:27):
That it takes it away a little oh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 5 (35:41):
Whereas Robert Kirkman, I feel like genuinely loves superheroes, and
Robert Kirkman too, he loves happy endings. So if you
want to read a comic and you know what's going
to end well, like even Walking Dead had a very good,
happy ending in the comic.
Speaker 6 (35:55):
Well, the show will never end.
Speaker 10 (36:02):
What the scores going and.
Speaker 5 (36:08):
Super He's saying anybody with power can't be good.
Speaker 17 (36:15):
People in general, if they were going to be bad,
he's saying, there's nothing good.
Speaker 6 (36:21):
Well, Starlight never went bad. I don't like her in
the show, but I like her in the comic. But
nobody's pursua that she's not perfect.
Speaker 3 (36:35):
She has something.
Speaker 6 (36:37):
I genuinely hate her in the show.
Speaker 10 (36:38):
I don't know what.
Speaker 5 (36:39):
Every season I hate her more, maybe because I love
Jens and Apples and she was mean to sold her boy.
Speaker 8 (36:43):
I know that's not how She's so annoying, Like she
was powering up and the biggest thing that happened with
a flash of.
Speaker 1 (36:50):
Lights, like, sit down, I'm ever stuck in a dark tunnel.
Speaker 6 (36:53):
You've embarrassed all of us here.
Speaker 1 (36:54):
Power went out.
Speaker 3 (36:58):
The idea, in my opinion, yes, would be.
Speaker 1 (37:11):
There would be a really good mix.
Speaker 5 (37:12):
Yeah, two people, right, and Homelander is killing them as
we were commercializing it.
Speaker 4 (37:21):
She's kind of promise.
Speaker 2 (37:26):
Hold on, I gotta I got a good point about
a good and bad so Jason Todd, since your your
Red Hood, I I do want to talk about this
because we have a good comparison.
Speaker 1 (37:38):
So Jason Ton and Bucky Barnes, they are.
Speaker 9 (37:42):
We do have.
Speaker 4 (37:42):
So Jason Todd, go ahead.
Speaker 2 (37:49):
You know, Jason Todd did come in Batman six thirty five,
February five, they introduced Obviously.
Speaker 4 (37:56):
Bucky Barnes had always been around.
Speaker 2 (37:58):
However, you know, Bucky Barnes came out as nineteen nineteen
forty one, but his first actual iteration as the Winter
Soldier wasn't until May of two thousand and five, where
so two.
Speaker 4 (38:10):
Months out a lot of this stuff.
Speaker 1 (38:11):
It's funny because.
Speaker 4 (38:14):
Jason died.
Speaker 10 (38:14):
Yes we have.
Speaker 1 (38:19):
As Red Hood February two thousand and five.
Speaker 2 (38:22):
Okay, but Jason died in like they let did you
guys know that they left it to a vote whether
or not.
Speaker 1 (38:30):
They literally vote here he died.
Speaker 6 (38:36):
I'm in a vote that would never happen.
Speaker 1 (38:38):
Never did they mail it in?
Speaker 3 (38:42):
What do you have.
Speaker 5 (38:45):
The one good character in.
Speaker 3 (38:52):
Winter?
Speaker 1 (38:53):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (38:53):
No, that's so, That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (38:54):
So they were two months apart.
Speaker 2 (38:56):
So Red Hood came back February two thousand and five,
whereas Winter Soldier got injured used May two thousand and five,
which is always funny because how how did they find
DC and Marvel somebody is.
Speaker 4 (39:06):
Probably what they're doing.
Speaker 1 (39:08):
You should do this, Oh ship Bucky.
Speaker 2 (39:10):
Bar it's a great idea, you know, he was basically
the same thing. And because a lot of these, as
we found through research and just reading comics, a lot
of them are mere single digit months apart.
Speaker 4 (39:21):
What do you have?
Speaker 1 (39:22):
Also like a coffeeat of another d.
Speaker 10 (39:27):
Which is.
Speaker 1 (39:31):
One of his many red ex also of the character
that's there's another character tool that's just me in the summertime.
Speaker 4 (39:55):
When I get a sunburn, I'm the red Tool.
Speaker 6 (39:58):
I'm a fucking goon because you're a tool and you're red.
Speaker 1 (40:02):
Anyways, speaking of red, what do you hold on?
Speaker 6 (40:05):
I was a confused, as.
Speaker 1 (40:14):
Oh, that's a whole other conversation. I would love to
but before we do have some more red carot raven.
Speaker 25 (40:24):
No, I was gonna mention Red Tornado and Vision because
like Red Tornado was two months before Vision in.
Speaker 1 (40:35):
His first iteration in nineteen sixty eight, was to kill,
just like Vision was.
Speaker 2 (40:39):
But yes, we do want because Lobo, we have put
that you're the wolverine experts, so why don't you take
it well?
Speaker 1 (40:47):
Experts?
Speaker 5 (40:48):
Okay, So Wolby obviously came out in nineteen seventy four,
and incredible hull of one.
Speaker 6 (40:53):
I think Wolverine is genuinely the best of what he does.
I think he is a genuine hero.
Speaker 5 (40:57):
I think every time he acts like he is a villain,
it's because he can't admit or accept the fact that
he is just nothing but awesomeness. Like he makes the
tough decisions, but he always makes the right decisions, and
he still struggles with that. The only time he makes
bad decisions when you're being brainwashed.
Speaker 4 (41:11):
Lobo was a parody of Wolverine, so you're right here.
Speaker 6 (41:15):
For that reason, I don't know Lobo well at all.
I have not read comics. I've read a lot of
wo I've never read a single comics.
Speaker 1 (41:23):
I've never read a comics.
Speaker 5 (41:27):
I've never read a Lobo comic. But obviously we're about
to get him on the screen with Jason Mola. And
what's interesting is when we were preparing for these panels,
because these two originally prepared, I ended up joining last minute.
Speaker 6 (41:37):
They live in Virginia.
Speaker 5 (41:38):
I live in Florida, and I put Wolverine is not
having a dopp lookker and then one of the two
of you today was like, oh.
Speaker 6 (41:45):
What about Lobo.
Speaker 1 (41:46):
Listen, do you have to deal with on this podcast? Wolverine?
This wolverine that you know?
Speaker 2 (41:53):
Okay, well, Wolverine over cries about pray every five seconds.
Speaker 18 (41:57):
At least.
Speaker 4 (41:59):
You know, at least.
Speaker 6 (42:03):
Okay.
Speaker 5 (42:04):
So I want to ask I want to ask you guys,
do you know anything about Logo because you're more Marvel
too so but okay, so outside of regeneration, how does
Lobo relate to Wolvey?
Speaker 4 (42:16):
Well, other than the fact that he was literally a parody,
I mean, a neither one knows how to shave.
Speaker 6 (42:25):
Pissed off, but not a wolf.
Speaker 5 (42:31):
In fun fact, Hugh Jackman thought a wolverine was a
wolf and was like, acting like a wolf.
Speaker 4 (42:36):
Don't worry, we can jump the mic after that moment.
Speaker 8 (42:40):
We don't have to go into it was a really
good points. Would you like come up here and get
a free comic for it?
Speaker 9 (42:46):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (42:46):
Yeah, we have, we have comics. Sorry, Megan's been dying
to give these away. I'm comic, just been ignoring me
this whole time.
Speaker 10 (42:54):
We have Thank you so much. Enjoy.
Speaker 1 (42:57):
Robin said this free Comics. It got so you can
hit me with the crow bar?
Speaker 3 (43:01):
What do you have?
Speaker 1 (43:04):
He put his hand down. No, I'm not going to
hit you. I'm just the battery or that you have
a cur.
Speaker 6 (43:10):
Is Joker here or Billy Butterer.
Speaker 3 (43:12):
What's happening?
Speaker 1 (43:14):
No, he's just in the Mighty Ducks the Bash Brothers
come on?
Speaker 4 (43:18):
Do yes?
Speaker 1 (43:21):
So braining that was obviously.
Speaker 6 (43:24):
We do have that here.
Speaker 8 (43:26):
So Braining Act came out in nineteen fifty eight. Will
Ultron came out in nineteen sixty eight, ten years later. Yes,
why don't you think they are?
Speaker 4 (43:37):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (43:37):
Okay ai?
Speaker 4 (43:47):
Oh is Jason talk about to beat that at? Oh
there's weird.
Speaker 1 (43:58):
It's really weird, Like I feel like somebody off not
super intense.
Speaker 5 (44:11):
That's weird, but.
Speaker 3 (44:14):
He so he is?
Speaker 10 (44:16):
And what what do you know?
Speaker 4 (44:17):
Like Ultron?
Speaker 26 (44:17):
Who?
Speaker 1 (44:18):
How would you compare the two between Bradiant.
Speaker 4 (44:20):
Who is more intense?
Speaker 1 (44:21):
I guess you would say, I mean Ultron kills the Avengers.
I like that, and he kills the Fox kills also
kills cops, which is never mind? Do you have we
do have Adam?
Speaker 27 (44:42):
And so I feel like the so Adam was first
introduced in Showcase Nomber thirty four, nineteen sixty.
Speaker 2 (44:54):
One of October, whereas ant Man was you know, tails
to Astonished twenty seven January nineteen.
Speaker 6 (44:59):
Sixty So ant Man's older and I am in an
obvious Man.
Speaker 1 (45:04):
Is younger nineteen sixty two.
Speaker 6 (45:06):
Compared to sixty four.
Speaker 1 (45:09):
Sixty one.
Speaker 5 (45:11):
Oh, I'm really bad at math, but obviously at post.
Speaker 1 (45:17):
I do love.
Speaker 3 (45:25):
Well.
Speaker 2 (45:25):
It's kind of like Superman and Century. Like Century is
kind of a rip off of Superman as well.
Speaker 4 (45:32):
Yeah, I know you talked.
Speaker 6 (45:34):
About that earlier, so I just said, so we're about
to get Century though. Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 22 (45:41):
I don't who, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (45:43):
I wouldn't say so. It's kind of like a blend
between Superman and She's a because well, I only say
that for the durability and the lightning aspect, because nobody
in DC that can really think up off the top
of my head. Before I get the blue shirt, I know,
(46:08):
my friend and the jean jacket. You had your hand up.
Speaker 1 (46:11):
What would you have? Yes, you, I don't think you're killing.
Speaker 4 (46:18):
You're googling real quick, blue shirt?
Speaker 3 (46:19):
What do you have? I knew it got.
Speaker 6 (46:32):
Who Michael was saying that earlier.
Speaker 4 (46:34):
Michael counter, I thought.
Speaker 2 (46:43):
But well, because they they dive in the hell a
little bit, right, That's a good I mean that is
a good comparison because John Constantine does often dive in
the hell and Doctor Strange more or less does.
Speaker 5 (46:55):
Yeah, I guess I just feel like their personalities are
so different. I never see thesers if that doesn't make sense.
Speaker 2 (47:06):
He feels passionately about this. I hope you have that
girl bar handy. Oh tough luck, but sorry your toast.
He's got he's got the clothes. I heard, Yeah, but
(47:29):
wasn't The eternals and everything were kind of ripped off
of the New Gods from d C, especially with dark
Side and things being introduced first.
Speaker 1 (47:37):
I'm was that.
Speaker 6 (47:41):
Blue shirt?
Speaker 1 (47:42):
That was a really great question.
Speaker 6 (47:43):
You get a comment.
Speaker 1 (47:45):
I just love that, making Stepan sundtrack just like comments
you're idiot, you have a whole trunk.
Speaker 6 (47:52):
If the whole time not knowing to parry the pats
on the shirt.
Speaker 4 (47:58):
I think there's a panel after us. I've believe, I
don't know, just.
Speaker 1 (48:03):
Didn't show up. That's true. Yeah, we should kind of
start to wrap it up.
Speaker 6 (48:08):
I got to say Wolverine, which is obviously my favorite,
so why don't Megan, and you say your favorite, want
to your favorite.
Speaker 2 (48:15):
Just just in general, because we got we do have
to wrap the Supprecasus, Spider.
Speaker 4 (48:20):
Man, the Night night Crawler, Nightcrawler, Why Crawler?
Speaker 1 (48:26):
Dude, Alan Cummings in the Traders.
Speaker 8 (48:30):
When they announced him, it was the four and a
half hours was almost worth it.
Speaker 10 (48:36):
Was yes, we have a new.
Speaker 6 (48:37):
Hand back there.
Speaker 1 (48:39):
Oh yeah, come on here, you.
Speaker 6 (48:44):
You gotta come get a comic.
Speaker 1 (48:45):
Come get a comic and tell us what your hands off?
Speaker 4 (48:47):
Yeah, what do you say the chorus?
Speaker 1 (49:02):
I would say, but I don't think it was.
Speaker 6 (49:04):
But I don't think it was like a superk not off.
Speaker 1 (49:08):
No, yeah, meda humans, it's meta humans.
Speaker 6 (49:19):
And people die everybody that first.
Speaker 1 (49:22):
Hold on, We'll get one second. Do you patrol the
Actually I could see that.
Speaker 10 (49:30):
What do you have.
Speaker 1 (49:38):
Com get a comic book for that one?
Speaker 18 (49:41):
We are.
Speaker 5 (49:43):
Have a doppler And really that's really good because they're
both from.
Speaker 4 (49:49):
I don't know why, I never can.
Speaker 10 (49:53):
Yes, there is.
Speaker 18 (50:06):
It was.
Speaker 6 (50:08):
Moonnight Well black Adam. He had some mythology.
Speaker 2 (50:15):
Yeah, obviously his mythology was changing the DC universe, duh.
And instead he took John Cena and he turned the
heel and he made a kid cry.
Speaker 3 (50:25):
I didn't I do that?
Speaker 5 (50:29):
Was did y'all see Carl John John's dad and his
voice John John's Well, my man.
Speaker 4 (50:43):
Had something up right here before to wrap up, you
do have like I mean, they were the O G sidekicks.
You are correct. Robbie got introduced very early.
Speaker 6 (50:55):
Uh wait, someone said doom Patrol.
Speaker 2 (50:58):
Well they were complete hold on here first information on
Captain of America being a ripoff of Shield.
Speaker 3 (51:05):
From Archie Comics, which.
Speaker 1 (51:09):
My wife loves.
Speaker 4 (51:11):
Arch the.
Speaker 1 (51:15):
But then Marvel got had the change. I love suing
people before get mister Miracle. Oh see, we didn't have
mister Miracles.
Speaker 3 (51:27):
A lot of people know that.
Speaker 6 (51:28):
Who said doom Patrol on a.
Speaker 5 (51:31):
Come up? Doom Patrol is actually like four months before
X Men. They came out both in nineteen sixty three.
Speaker 4 (51:39):
Dang.
Speaker 6 (51:39):
I think Doom Patrol obviously evolved into.
Speaker 11 (51:43):
And what the is there?
Speaker 6 (51:44):
Catchphrase? And I think the X Men took a light
to their own moleculemas the swamp.
Speaker 4 (51:53):
Thing and man Thing, So we did Someone did say
man Thing earlier, Yes.
Speaker 1 (51:59):
We did have that.
Speaker 5 (52:00):
Man Thing is May seventy one and swamp Thing is
July seventy one, and they both have very similar origins
scientists gotton a field experiment which transforms him into a
much drous creature.
Speaker 6 (52:10):
But how cute is man thing?
Speaker 10 (52:12):
And it was by night?
Speaker 6 (52:14):
Oh it wasn't wearing by night. It was wearing by night,
My bad? How cute was he? His head?
Speaker 3 (52:21):
She came at you.
Speaker 6 (52:24):
Because I see him?
Speaker 4 (52:25):
All right, one last one before we wrap up. Blue shirt.
Speaker 10 (52:31):
Oh that.
Speaker 1 (52:35):
Man, because they're both scientists.
Speaker 26 (52:38):
Looking to cure in Yeah, she got in the lizards,
but again.
Speaker 2 (52:51):
In gosh, blue shirt coming into comic book real quick,
you've been crushing it.
Speaker 6 (52:56):
I feel like.
Speaker 1 (52:58):
I feel like red Hood and my manser the pink
shirt as well. We got three left?
Speaker 3 (53:02):
Is that right?
Speaker 1 (53:03):
Wait? Pink shirt, pink shirt and right.
Speaker 28 (53:06):
Now, Okay, I'm sorry, I've been talking too much of
what you have. I have a ton of my I
was gonna.
Speaker 24 (53:16):
Say to my trunk, I have a ton, come on,
I have so many, but as both I didn't even
see the back.
Speaker 1 (53:29):
Of the shirt to now, Oh my god, low jaw, princess.
That's going on all of the.
Speaker 2 (53:38):
Galaxy con socials. Damn it right there for that, I'm amazing, amazing,
just alright, So we believe there is a panel. Maybe
I feel like they're coming to a point. But as
we do wrap up, you said yours flash off the
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mean Batman or my.
Speaker 1 (54:00):
Holy Trinity, if you will, it's I mean.
Speaker 4 (54:03):
You're not gonna like my answer.
Speaker 1 (54:04):
It's Barry Allen because because at least I got to
grow up.
Speaker 3 (54:12):
Damn it.
Speaker 1 (54:13):
But Robin, we're both adopted, so I don't want to
tell you I'm sorry.
Speaker 4 (54:19):
It is Barry.
Speaker 1 (54:20):
I do like Barry because for me, for me, Barry
Allen is I.
Speaker 4 (54:26):
Don't have anything against Wallet.
Speaker 1 (54:27):
I've always grabbed. When I started reading Flash he outruns
this depression, which is something I t.
Speaker 4 (54:40):
I love to run, and we both got run depression.
Speaker 1 (54:42):
Blue shirt.
Speaker 3 (54:47):
Batman the.
Speaker 2 (54:52):
U No, that's what Bill Scar's guard and he totally
hangs dong and it's on bees wall at his house.
Speaker 17 (55:03):
Remember, but they basically and there was a character that
basically a female dog Batman where her parents are like Hippi,
who wasn't.
Speaker 10 (55:21):
I could.
Speaker 6 (55:24):
We have to wrap up? There's a allegedly another one
after this.
Speaker 1 (55:29):
Last night there was on but I never showed up.
How do you follow up? Come on, guys, what am
I saying?
Speaker 4 (55:39):
I have a bigger personally?
Speaker 6 (55:43):
So and I will see you outside.
Speaker 4 (55:45):
Okay, you can't die.
Speaker 10 (55:48):
Don't bring that you see that at the end of this.
Speaker 1 (55:55):
First Yeah, thank you, thank you, my man.
Speaker 4 (56:01):
D C changed comic books.
Speaker 6 (56:05):
Okay. I think what Marvel did better was the Iron.
Speaker 1 (56:08):
Man movie that.
Speaker 4 (56:11):
I think what d C did better was The Dark Knight.
Speaker 5 (56:13):
As far as culture goes, iron Man, it changed everything
and made Marvel of house.
Speaker 6 (56:20):
I made Rocket Raccoon.
Speaker 1 (56:21):
A house iron.
Speaker 5 (56:22):
Meanwhile, all DC ever did was Batman and Superman over
and over again.
Speaker 1 (56:26):
And like watching.
Speaker 2 (56:29):
Yes, well, clearly you guys look alike. It's it's all
the blood and it's all the dark. Obviously, what the hell.
Speaker 9 (56:42):
Did they think?
Speaker 6 (56:42):
Did they think you were venom? But that still doesn't
make sense.
Speaker 1 (56:45):
That it's obviously the helmet that looks just like Spider Man.
Speaker 6 (56:49):
Clearly, maybe just a dumb.
Speaker 1 (56:58):
Asses superboy.
Speaker 3 (57:03):
Boy.
Speaker 1 (57:05):
I wish Ken is here because you love them us.
Speaker 3 (57:10):
Oh my god? All right.
Speaker 2 (57:13):
Legitimately, though, guys, you got the past two nights a
lot of you guys that come here. I cannot tell
you how much fun it has been getting to talk
to everybody here, getting interact. That's what comic cons are
all about. I hope I won't be here tomorrow. We
won't be tomorrow. I hope everybody who is here the
rest of the night or tomorrow has a great time.
You can find us, You can grab stickers if you
want to find us, whether it's our comic book reviews
at their initiative Hopsteek News Megan.
Speaker 5 (57:35):
And sometimes we do live podcast where people can chime
in and comments.
Speaker 4 (57:41):
That's great.
Speaker 2 (57:42):
Daredevil and Spider Man were on our show last night
and I have so much editing to do that it's
gonna come out soon. And but seriously, thank you guys
so much for comments on comic books. I can't wait
to see you guys again.
Speaker 4 (57:54):
And so thank you for real.
Speaker 10 (57:56):
Thank you
Speaker 1 (57:58):
Might is courage
Hey, you know, shout out to you guys. First of all, like,
that's really cool of you, man.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
That's what it's all about, right there.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
That legitimately, whether it's comic books, whether it's Emo.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Night Like, first and foremost, I was forged in every
Warped Tour mosh pit back in the day. August Burn's
read like writing right in the temple, many of its
concussions ringing the horizon before they went softer.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
You know, that's what it's all about. So thank you, guys,
first and foremost.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Second of all, thank you to my Man's night Wing
for this really cool three D bring.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
This is really dope, man. I fucking love this. I
love this stuff and this is so super cool.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
We thought it last night.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
I was like, Wow, that's amazing. Anybody who missed it
last night. I promise you we're not gonna get into.
Speaker 4 (01:11):
Many arguments, maybe maybe arguments tonight.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
My laptop's over here, Megan, Can I beg ask you
to grab my laptops because we have tonight we are
talking about comic book doubles.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
So we know Marvel did it, we know DC did it.
Speaker 4 (01:26):
We got Slade Wilson, we got Wade Wilson.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
You know, we have all these sorts of characters and
things that Captain Marvel?
Speaker 1 (01:33):
Wait, is that Carol Danvers? Is that Shazam?
Speaker 4 (01:36):
What is it?
Speaker 2 (01:37):
So we thought, hey, why don't we clear some things up.
We talked about him a little bit. It's not gonna
be so crazy like last night, but you know, I
hope it kind of is, because I love argument. Last
night was the best. Uh So, first and foremost, if
you guys don't know who we are, I am Matt,
This is Lauren, This is Megan.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
Lauren and I do a podcast together called popsky Us.
We're doing it for five years. That started in COVID.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
We were raised money for local breweries to support them
and their staff during the pandemic when they couldn't pay
their staff. We were trying to do that and we
found out.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
That we both hate Game Thrones. Ending together.
Speaker 5 (02:10):
Well, there are some different feelings on that, but basically
we talk about reason we go off on tangent.
Speaker 6 (02:15):
I didn't hate the Game of Thrones.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
I mean, I just don't love it. I just think.
Speaker 5 (02:19):
She loved Batman the Superman as much as I do.
That's not true. He loves Batman versus Superman. This is
what I got.
Speaker 7 (02:27):
Wasn't going to be an argumentative.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
Okay, Alrightman Superman is over.
Speaker 6 (02:39):
Hated, but it's also not.
Speaker 7 (02:45):
Whouse was alright, you're right, I said, we weren't. You know,
we're gonna say it, so we do that. Megan here
does a really awesome podcast. Why don't you tell them
about your podcast?
Speaker 1 (02:59):
I haven't non toxic Marvel podcast.
Speaker 8 (03:01):
That means no racism, sexism, homophobia, all the stuff that
runs rampant and all the fandoms and vigilant.
Speaker 4 (03:09):
She does that.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
She runs a Facebook group called the nerd Haven, which is.
Speaker 6 (03:13):
Also non toxic, fifty nine thousand people.
Speaker 4 (03:16):
She walks it down.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
It's really actually impressive.
Speaker 4 (03:18):
I'm not really impressive.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
But aside from that, she responds, she does.
Speaker 4 (03:23):
And aside from that, the three of.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
Us work together. I run TV and film. Megan is
my partner in crime.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
But all three of us also do comic book reviews
for nerds midship dot com, and.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
So we don't know everything. So I'm not gonna sit
here and tell you that we're experts. Right, even Jesus
made mistakes, is what I like to say.
Speaker 6 (03:39):
Right, they're not beer, but.
Speaker 4 (03:43):
We're here just kind of talk about comic books.
Speaker 9 (03:45):
Man.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
I mean, we're at Comic Con, Galaxy Con, and I
feel like we've almost lost the comic aspect of Comic Con,
whereas there's right now, I don't know if you guys
are up to date on all of the comic books
out there right now, Absolute Series from DC in Amazing
Image Comics is doing some of the best comic books.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
Minor Threats from dark Horse. They're they're We're like another
Golden Age.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
So we thought it'd be fun to talk about who
did it first because there's so many movies.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
James Gunn's restarting the d CU. We also have Marvel
on Phase something with Robert Downey Junior is coming back.
Speaker 4 (04:21):
We've got this won't.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
Be as long as the X Men reveal or the
Doomsday if you will reveal.
Speaker 4 (04:27):
There's still like Zack Snyder touch, you.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
Know, five hours to look at some chairs I don't have.
Speaker 8 (04:33):
Only Marvel can make me sit there and look at
some damn chair in none of them and record myself
do it.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
We already know jackmans coming.
Speaker 10 (04:45):
So what do we what do we have?
Speaker 4 (04:47):
First, guys? What do we kick with the most obvious one?
What is the most obvious one that we kind.
Speaker 8 (04:50):
Of have about what do you say, what is the
most obvious?
Speaker 11 (04:54):
What do you think the.
Speaker 5 (04:54):
Most obvious record name war in Auckaman.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
Okay, yeah, that's a great one.
Speaker 4 (04:58):
Go ahead, record, Ralph.
Speaker 6 (05:02):
You don't have to raise your hands.
Speaker 4 (05:03):
You get to stand up and talk.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
So Deadpool and that's the one we were starting with.
Speaker 5 (05:08):
Yeah, so slaveh Wilson and Wade Wilson. It's like they
weren't even trying to be subtle.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
But I feel it's about as subtle as Rob Leinefield
can draw chests and feet and everything else.
Speaker 5 (05:22):
But the Shingans do you look at Deadpool, and said Wilson,
and you think these are very different characters. But when
Deadpool was first introduced, they were not very different characters.
We didn't get the fourth wall breaking or anything like
that until issue twenty eight with Deadpoole with Joe Kelly
and Pete Woods.
Speaker 6 (05:37):
And that is the first time he broke the fourth wall.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
Before that he was a little more serious.
Speaker 6 (05:41):
So that is what we could get up. I saw
another hand back there. So who did you have your
doctor games?
Speaker 5 (05:45):
Who?
Speaker 4 (05:50):
Yes, yes, Green Arrow and.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, oh, all these on the list.
Speaker 4 (06:02):
Century, we are Superman.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
I think, yeah, well that's like that's probably the most
obvious aside from Slay and Wade.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
Right, that's the moment.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
She's so, why don't we start off with some because
do you have a little bit into death Pool? No?
Speaker 2 (06:23):
Well, Slave Wilson slash death joke was actually introduced obviously
on the newteen Titans?
Speaker 1 (06:29):
Is she number two?
Speaker 2 (06:29):
On December tenth, nineteen eight, So Lauren, when was Deadpool
actually first.
Speaker 6 (06:34):
Introduced new mutants ninety nineteen ninety so a whole decades later.
Speaker 5 (06:39):
But again, like I said before, it didn't get us
to dead Hool twenty eight, or we actually got.
Speaker 4 (06:44):
The ideas first, Yeah, not so much.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
All right, I'm just saying, wait, all right, we'll keeping
him respectful.
Speaker 10 (06:59):
Exactly what do you?
Speaker 3 (07:00):
What do you have?
Speaker 9 (07:01):
You?
Speaker 1 (07:04):
All right, so let's jump Tom.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
We will jump to Moon Batman because that's another really
big one, right Batman is perhaps I know how many Batman.
Speaker 12 (07:13):
Comic books are on the shelves right now there the
limit does not exist, but only I will I will
say that Batman comics right now.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
There's dark patterns.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
If you haven't read that, it's five about three five
issues in five issues in Solid Scott Snyder and.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
What he's doing in the Absolute series, like the Absolute
If you guys don't know, it's right, that whole Absolute
with d. C. All End is reimagining.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
These heroes origin stories. So the Absolute series Batman first
of all, his Absolute this guy.
Speaker 13 (07:49):
He is twenty, like my god, chess baby twenty Yeah, yeah, Derek,
this dude is huge.
Speaker 4 (08:01):
And then they've also released the cover.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
Of like Bane with his tiny head, and Baine is huge, stupid.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
What's what Scott's doing is really because he got me
reback into comic books with the core battles and the music.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
One of the few bright spots in the New fifty two.
Speaker 4 (08:16):
Uh, I'm in DC.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
Guys need their marble, but there there are some bright spots.
But we're right, we're not fighting tonight.
Speaker 5 (08:27):
Actually, since Daredel came back, he's really leaning mar We
almost got tattoos.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
Today and they're like we were, so we were, and
we're gonna get the sillo out of Daredel And the
guy was like the min it was one thinking.
Speaker 14 (08:41):
I was like, you should be honored. I have a
fucking bluey in hot dog tattoo. So to add to
this beautiful arm of mine for a silhouette that's like
the size of my will to live.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
No, yeah, that was yeah, I don't you if anybody's
looking for tattoos, I'm kind of sorry, not that you
came for the tattoos. Anyways, Batman, and you know they
said moon Night, Yes, yes, the Moon.
Speaker 5 (09:10):
Night though, so Batman's obviously nineteen thirty nine, so clearly
he came first. The Moon Night wasn't until aware by
Night number thirty two, that's August seventy five. So I
always wondered that maybe it's because I'm not a huge
DC fan and I'm more Marvel. Why do people compare
Batman and Moon Night so much? And who Obviously Batman's
weren't popular.
Speaker 11 (09:29):
Yeah, I mean, but you that's sick that I original
for what I remember not talking to Bob Kane years
ago that he stole it from Bill Finger.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
Bill Finger, Okay, so that's actually good. So Bob king
and Bill Finger, if you don't.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
Know, there was a big controversy.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
So Bob Kinge was always credited with creating Batman, and
the first iteration of Batman looked.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
More like he had a red cake like it was weird.
Speaker 4 (09:56):
He was red.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
It didn't fit the vibe at all. He's more like
a vampire, is kind of how they introduced him.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
And that was in nineteen thirty nine, around the time
that Superman was coming out, and they wanted to kind
of copy the essence of Superman, if you will, And
so after that they decided.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
To go a different route, and that's where they gave
him the purple gloves.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
And it's still which you get the purple gloves in
some iterations, which Batman here one I thought was a
pretty good storyline.
Speaker 4 (10:27):
Crusader on Amazon Prime.
Speaker 10 (10:28):
Yeah, they has that.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
Yeah, And so that was like how they reimagined Batman,
you know that to kind of diversify him from Okay,
he's not so.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
Much Superman because Superman is vastly different. I thought, I'm sorry,
be talking a lot.
Speaker 4 (10:49):
Listen, they buddh us last night in a good way. Okay,
it's got so for.
Speaker 6 (10:53):
Me, Batman's ganger is iron Man. Does anybody else feel
like that's.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
More ironlaneurs that's a good point. So that's what I said, Bruce,
Wayne and iron Man.
Speaker 5 (11:04):
So Batman didn't feel the need to have like a
secret identity. I feel like him and iron Man would
be on the same page.
Speaker 6 (11:10):
But I feel like Badman.
Speaker 4 (11:11):
Gets off on but does Batman.
Speaker 15 (11:14):
I feel like recently Batman's been getting more and closer
to iron Man actually, since like the development of the
gadgets are leaning less away from his detect feels more
like what he has.
Speaker 5 (11:24):
Access to right primarily, and they're both incredibly intelligent, and
the only way they're consideringly they're humans, rich Newts, nothing
like that. Yeah, they're rich and they're smart, and they're playboys.
They're playboy philanthropists.
Speaker 6 (11:38):
Yeah, genius.
Speaker 16 (11:41):
There's there's more in that as far as like the
comparison between the two. There's more in that for Batman
because they oh my god, the last few major ones
of Batman have made it. It's like very clear there's
a massive difference between Bruce Wayne and Batman, where there's
not that much difference between iron.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
Man and stuff good.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
I know it's that in a stad uh blue shirt. Sorry,
I don't want to, but blue shirt had something to
I'm just saying.
Speaker 17 (12:06):
That when it comes to iron Man and Batman, it's
not really a similarity to the Ulter he goes more.
It is really just a similarity to who they are
under the mask. And again, iron Man has only gotten
more popular partially due to Robert Downey Junior, and honestly,
(12:29):
to a degree, it's a good thing Batman keeps a
secret identity and stuff, because if he does, the whole
thing is if to we start gets into a bunch
of controversial situations that makes people question his sanity as
iron Man. Bruce Wayne's doing a bunch of crazy stuff
(12:49):
and usually that stuff's on purpose.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
They don't think he's Batman like some rich dude.
Speaker 18 (12:56):
Yeah, you know Celtic version, right, the iron Man that
gave up with and the Marvel Unison used.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
It record, Ralph, what'd you have did?
Speaker 3 (13:06):
John?
Speaker 11 (13:10):
You know?
Speaker 6 (13:11):
I just.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
Yes, you see what he does? Don't know, but you're right.
So I feel like.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
Tony Stark is, there's not much of a difference between
the two of them, whereas Batman is the main character
in Bruce Wayne is just kind.
Speaker 9 (13:34):
Of recently from John Champion show when they were talking
about the big Ben Affleck article that came out about
why he was bad at Batman and why he and
part of it was way that he was acting and.
Speaker 3 (13:47):
Thought that he was a bad person at times.
Speaker 10 (13:48):
There's no doctor.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
But Josh Champion said he liked about Ben Affleck.
Speaker 9 (13:52):
Was he the only one who pretended to play Batman
but actually with being Bruce Wayne, like he played Bruce
Wayne as like, oh Batman through this guy the Delvis
Bruce Wayne. There are these fancy parties and stuff, but
you don't really want to and you really want to
do the Batman thing.
Speaker 11 (14:07):
Yea.
Speaker 6 (14:09):
So how many people here like the Batman I did?
Speaker 18 (14:13):
I loved it?
Speaker 10 (14:14):
How many it?
Speaker 1 (14:17):
It's unfortunate we may never get a sequel.
Speaker 10 (14:19):
Anyway, So I did not care for it.
Speaker 5 (14:22):
I thought he was a great Batman. I thought it
was a terrible Bruce Wayne. He was, and he didn't
do the facade of Bruce's learning.
Speaker 6 (14:30):
This is not after place.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
So easy.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
Okay, all right, before we get to you hold, I'm
gonna hear from the negative side, or not the negative,
the disagreement that's why you didn't like.
Speaker 19 (14:43):
His Bruce Wayne or from my view is be Batman
is easy because you just put a cowl on it
and that's it.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
You don't have to act out it.
Speaker 20 (14:56):
Mhm is the directors and they said about daughter who's
doing the job from you, But to be the whole
thing you need to do believable Bruce Wayne.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
And that's where they I can come Sam, and I
think that's where he failed.
Speaker 4 (15:11):
Blue Shirt.
Speaker 17 (15:13):
I was just gonna say one thing I actually did
like hibout that and was how they did the reveal
of Bruce's father having a connection to that was something
that they actually I actually read from an actual old
Batman com which I actually like a lot, not just
putting any spoilers out there, but.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
Just the one thing that spoilers.
Speaker 5 (15:41):
I mean, you're not going to get rich without you know,
we're doing a little so that makes sense.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
What I don't believe.
Speaker 17 (15:54):
I like the movie A live I do agree like
the Bruce Wayne aspect was really.
Speaker 21 (15:58):
Because Matt rags you know, he said he was inspired
by like Kurt Cobain and like.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
This isolation this movie.
Speaker 21 (16:07):
But I think it led you know, might.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
Come out Robert Robert Pattinson might be ninety.
Speaker 21 (16:15):
But I think like it like it led on to
Like I think it was like the mayor was like
were the woman that was going to become mayor was like,
you know, we need to see more of you and
things like that, So I think it might fil to
like get.
Speaker 4 (16:28):
Bruce Wayne thank you.
Speaker 6 (16:30):
Okay, I feel like it was good for it because
he's a year one Batman.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
He's year one, he's year two.
Speaker 12 (16:36):
Okay, so but he's so focused on being Batman and
fixing that way and the whole point of the Batman.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
I know we have devolved into a discussion about the Batman.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
But what was the fact that he had to learn
how to duel because even with Andy Serviss Alfred, he
was like, hey, you still need to like even pretty
more depth to it because.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
Robert Pattinson.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
Not the fire.
Speaker 9 (17:02):
For her.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
She hasn't seen the lighthouse, you know, but I haven't
heard that way.
Speaker 4 (17:10):
He has to learn to be Bruce Wayne.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
And my what I saw your hand up back there.
Speaker 10 (17:15):
Yeah, yes, exactly.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
Yeah, he has to learn to be Bruce Wayne.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
He knows how to be Batman kind of. He was
very focused on the detective asset. We listen, we're gonna
Tauber Galaxy, run panels, panels, different things, Red Hook, what
do you have?
Speaker 22 (17:45):
I mean, yeah, yeah, you had to learn.
Speaker 15 (17:48):
That.
Speaker 11 (17:49):
He went into directed, but at first he was Marble,
the hero of realistic there's rather than oh god, you.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
Need a room, know, I'm you so obsessed with me,
I'm just kidding, So yes, I do agree with that.
Speaker 15 (18:06):
Like iron Man and had to learn how to be
iron Man to be a hero, learn how to be
a hero because well to like reference the dm CU again.
Speaker 22 (18:18):
That happens person like, Yeah, but I want to hear
and so he's learning, So I really.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
Do want to hear what you're say.
Speaker 18 (18:30):
I'm scarping, I was saying earlier with that Batman usually
when he's bad, as like in the comic, he's just
a d C style superhero that's like a godlike figure.
Speaker 4 (18:41):
But make him good.
Speaker 9 (18:42):
He's a detective, and that's more like a Marvel hero,
where he's like an actual, you know, an actual person
Marvel hero and.
Speaker 10 (18:50):
We're going to.
Speaker 4 (18:52):
I want to I want to evolve.
Speaker 6 (18:54):
So iron Man has that. I don't give how many
people like kill So how do you think.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
That it's more of a form.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
It's more like a.
Speaker 6 (19:02):
Kills a lot of people and does not care.
Speaker 3 (19:05):
He doesn't care, but.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
Yourself.
Speaker 5 (19:09):
Now, Batman is like Scaredevil in regardless they go out
of their way to make sure they're not killing people,
even though I'm sure a lot of those people have
brain bleas and dies later.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
But we don't know Batman so many times has said
you've got sixteen minutes in the hospital, buddy, you'll be fine.
A lot of the people that are villains that we know,
and then they even there. I can't spoil it because
it doesn't coming out yet. There is some pretty clever
takes on mister Freeze coming up.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
But if you're a fan of like Black Mask, some
of the most metal stuff I have seen in the
comic book was an absolute Batman issue six.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
Where he punts a child. He punts, there's a villains,
please sir the kid, and I think at first.
Speaker 10 (20:02):
You did.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
Okay, he saved the kids, like, but he punts a child.
I was like, hey, the mom didn't come afterwards. Not
forget about that upwards and then stabbed Black Mask. We're
gonna hold on my man's here, you kid.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
I mean, I have two kids and I think about
punking them often, and I have a snack.
Speaker 4 (20:29):
You just have seventeen.
Speaker 3 (20:32):
Very very.
Speaker 6 (20:44):
Okay, So let's go.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
So somebody is there. I'm gonna totally pull it back. Yeah, no,
we want to go back tonight.
Speaker 4 (20:50):
Like we did not do last night.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
Listen, there was no actually after us.
Speaker 6 (20:55):
Okay, so raise your hand if you think name.
Speaker 3 (20:57):
War is better than th name More?
Speaker 2 (21:00):
Yeah, but is it because because he killed a basin
better than better Aquaman?
Speaker 4 (21:10):
I don't know. I'm gonna put up the red race.
Speaker 3 (21:14):
You go, also ever talking swag?
Speaker 1 (21:21):
Hold on, hold on.
Speaker 4 (21:28):
Blackman.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
Okay, I love Aquaman, but the More totally steals.
Speaker 4 (21:35):
Raises off the charts.
Speaker 10 (21:36):
But I love everyone here.
Speaker 4 (21:41):
You don't kiss me? And where's off the charts?
Speaker 1 (21:44):
The legal Yeah, government, apparently it's okay. One game game.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
I'm gonna say about Well, Okay, may More did come
out before he did. I'm just gonna say this. May
Moore has been horrifyingly inconsistently radio.
Speaker 6 (22:09):
He is as far as actually.
Speaker 3 (22:11):
Believed to be of.
Speaker 17 (22:14):
His whole personality is actually believed to be theorically caused
by a real world tradifficult the.
Speaker 23 (22:19):
Bend, which is were air bubbles in your blood kind
of going unnaturally from it's the pressurization, and like.
Speaker 3 (22:32):
He's just like astron he is. He is usually more
consistently a hero.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
I actually so, I feel like it's a big problem
in comics, really.
Speaker 6 (22:44):
Interesting to science like that.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
I think that's absolutely agreed.
Speaker 4 (22:49):
I feel like a big p.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
With Aquaman and The more is nobody knows how to
write the two almost Sometimes I will say, Jeremy Adams
again the Absolute series is doing really good job of it.
Speaker 4 (23:01):
But it's because a couple.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
Of episodes of Yes did Supernatural and.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
So he did Scuomy Natural and then he did Missus
Butters Scooby Natural.
Speaker 4 (23:18):
Doesn't Oh I love Scooby.
Speaker 10 (23:22):
This just finished.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
I just finished Supernatural for the first time. That's not this.
But Jeremy's doing a great job, and it's almost like,
what do I do with this character?
Speaker 2 (23:33):
Like how many times they've written as jokes they swimming
water fast power.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
I don't like that they always.
Speaker 6 (23:38):
Make fun of look at the Deep and the boys.
Speaker 5 (23:40):
Why are I always making fun of people because they
love the We make fun of the.
Speaker 4 (23:50):
Figure out what makes black Man.
Speaker 3 (23:55):
A lot?
Speaker 1 (23:55):
But it's hard like black but oh My, Yes.
Speaker 15 (24:02):
Super Friends damage to Aman but they didn't do it
black Man d black Man.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
Black Man is one of my favorite villains because he's
such he was. I still think that he is.
Speaker 4 (24:14):
And I love Petty Dyllan.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
I love Petty like.
Speaker 6 (24:20):
Birth Back, No More one s show bad.
Speaker 3 (24:22):
He'll do whatever things together.
Speaker 5 (24:23):
Like Game Bro.
Speaker 3 (24:25):
I mean, I.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
Like you guys, had your.
Speaker 4 (24:36):
Okay, So I wouldn't.
Speaker 1 (24:37):
Want to say like, ok so, first off, when he
comes down to the right, wouldn't we appreciate Raymond and chilling?
Speaker 16 (24:44):
Do we appreciate eddy hero or petty villains more because
we like edy heroes that I'm sorry but like Aban
is not matching.
Speaker 3 (24:51):
Up to the more.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
But if you appreciate like Penny villains more, we almost
love was black d black Man black Well, I do.
Speaker 4 (25:03):
The older I get in, the more.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
I always jump around down.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
I'm like, don't give me superpowers because as much as
I want to save the world, like my god, you
people make it so hard sometimes that I would absolutely.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
Be like a Doom like character because what the hell.
Speaker 5 (25:19):
Is going on?
Speaker 1 (25:21):
Just what world underd is?
Speaker 24 (25:22):
Tell me one thing, and that's I think, just strong,
independent man with a steel mask.
Speaker 4 (25:32):
All people.
Speaker 18 (25:35):
Good Mariner much better because they wrote him what the
re wrote him say, did to be.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
The first mutant ever?
Speaker 3 (25:42):
And then it rerode him again where he's.
Speaker 18 (25:44):
The Mexican version or the early Mexican version, was a
panther where his mother.
Speaker 3 (25:49):
Took the fruit of their.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
I do want to there is in case you don't know,
d C D D C rigged off. They're with their
own red lion. Actually, yeah, exactly. Matthew Matthew Bland is
(26:11):
the President for life of the African nation of Burundia.
He was introduced in Death Stroke Rebirth number one, October
twenty sixteen.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
Not a good guy.
Speaker 4 (26:21):
He has a very bright red costume.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
He's got like the Mufasa a little looking around him.
Speaker 10 (26:27):
It's it's yeah, yeah, b U r E d u
n I.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
A Vixen is good. Well, they introduced Vixen back when
Arrow versus a thing. We had the animated Vixen series
that started.
Speaker 4 (26:53):
It was gone altogether.
Speaker 5 (27:01):
There's nothing comparable.
Speaker 4 (27:06):
Well, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
I saw, which I will see it doesn't because Satanna's
kind of differently, but they're the same.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
Marvel right doctor Yeah, okay, so Doctor Strange actually that
you bring him up.
Speaker 4 (27:19):
We had Doctor Fate. Yeah, you got doctor Dream doctor.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
Real quick, really quick.
Speaker 8 (27:26):
Who do you guys think would win in a fight?
Speaker 1 (27:27):
Doctor Favorite, Doctor Doctor Fate?
Speaker 8 (27:30):
But would you say that about the original Doctor Strange
against where the new Doctor Strange.
Speaker 4 (27:35):
Against doctor We're not going to argue.
Speaker 6 (27:38):
I want to argue tonight.
Speaker 3 (27:41):
It's weird because.
Speaker 4 (27:45):
Doctor who can.
Speaker 6 (27:51):
I pay money to see that?
Speaker 11 (27:54):
Yeah, But.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
Like I was gonna say, those two.
Speaker 10 (27:59):
It's a off.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
So he can see Doctor Stranger, Doctor Fate, doctor Fate.
Speaker 6 (28:05):
Actually I do.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
But here's the thing with doctor Fate is Doctor Fate's
powers to his helmet.
Speaker 1 (28:12):
Though, where's doctor Straight I guess, yes, that's right, right,
your pears crossed.
Speaker 6 (28:22):
I always feel like doctor Strange is too cocky and
that works against him. I like his vacuum, I think,
And I was like, maybe just I mean for me,
maybe that's why.
Speaker 5 (28:31):
But somebody did ask about quick Silver and Flash forty
nineteen sixty four.
Speaker 6 (28:38):
Yeah, Flash, that's a big difference.
Speaker 4 (28:40):
We're not going to get into Burry.
Speaker 6 (28:43):
All we know is Berry's not the fast man a wife,
even though he's labeled the.
Speaker 4 (28:45):
Fast Barry always called him.
Speaker 5 (28:48):
Is somebody back there doing stretching stretch one?
Speaker 1 (28:52):
Jesus, well, she had a tiger. That's another good one
right there.
Speaker 4 (28:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (29:00):
I forget the actual comic books, but I haven't posted
on my walls.
Speaker 11 (29:04):
Whoever it is.
Speaker 3 (29:05):
But describe this common panel right after the presis of
implant ears the press and they're doing.
Speaker 17 (29:16):
A speech to Race and Mark, and there's a random
speech that shows up out of blue and color the.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
Name very alien, and he wins the race.
Speaker 4 (29:27):
Even so, even Fairy is all.
Speaker 8 (29:30):
Of the.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
Does that run death?
Speaker 19 (29:38):
That's been a thing you had your hand up. Yes, both,
I mean I'm something if created as how is Wally classic?
Wally is more in tune with the speed what Uni?
Speaker 4 (30:06):
Yeah, universe?
Speaker 5 (30:07):
Okay, so it's kind of like the guy who created
the person who created the Internet is not as good
on the Internet as my seven year old because he
grew up with the Internet.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
That's yes, Actually it's a really good analogy about.
Speaker 4 (30:23):
True.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
We're talking about college.
Speaker 4 (30:28):
Interest rates more or less.
Speaker 1 (30:35):
Yeah, all right.
Speaker 4 (30:37):
Somebody said dark Side and Thanels earlier to.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
Which dark Side?
Speaker 4 (30:41):
Okay, so not a movie.
Speaker 2 (30:46):
I love It's so again I love a petty villain,
so yes, so dark Side was actually no.
Speaker 1 (31:01):
Dark Side was first. He came up in Superman. He
was so Superman's pal.
Speaker 2 (31:05):
Jimmy Olsen number one, thirty four, nineteen seventy, whereas Danos
appeared in Ironman fifty five and nineteen seventy two. Thanos
was created by Jim Starling and Mike Frederick, who even
admitted that DC's dark Side was an inspiration, because Marvel
was essentially like, I don't care what it takes.
Speaker 4 (31:22):
We need to copy what Dark.
Speaker 3 (31:24):
Side is doing.
Speaker 6 (31:25):
A comment.
Speaker 1 (31:27):
Black Cat mar We yes, okay, we do have that
on here, it's done here.
Speaker 10 (31:33):
Where was it?
Speaker 6 (31:33):
I think we have Raymond on here too, find it.
Speaker 16 (31:41):
Yeah, we were just talking about that, Spider manders.
Speaker 1 (31:48):
Hold on before we get hold on, before we get there, though,
we do have cat Woman and Black Cat.
Speaker 8 (31:52):
Who do you think came out first? Yeah, thirty nine
years before. Yes, yeah, that's that's why.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
So Batman issue one nineteen forty was Catwoman.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
Yeah, black Cat came out the Amazing Spider Man ninety
four nineteen se oh.
Speaker 5 (32:10):
When we were talking about this, we actually compared Raven
to Magic So Eleianna.
Speaker 6 (32:15):
Anybody watched X Men, the animated series.
Speaker 1 (32:17):
Yes, so.
Speaker 6 (32:23):
That's what we are arguing that it's Raven. So Raven
came out in October.
Speaker 5 (32:29):
Nineteen eighty and Elianna came out in Giant's X Men
number one, seventy five.
Speaker 6 (32:33):
But people, you guys think that Raven is more doppel
ganger for Scarlett.
Speaker 1 (32:37):
Which earlier I don't know if she has one.
Speaker 8 (32:45):
Yeah, we were talking about some that just don't have
a doctor Ganger at least yet. Yeah, I mean, because
that's gonna happen.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
Hold on, Raygan, what did you have?
Speaker 6 (32:55):
But I'm agree with them. I think it's a valid.
Speaker 2 (33:01):
Because it's mostly just like, Yeah, I mean, Raven's power
comes a little bit more from.
Speaker 4 (33:09):
Right, similar characters.
Speaker 1 (33:15):
As they exist.
Speaker 5 (33:16):
Longer, right, well, and you have the same artists and
writers go from DC to Marvel back and forth.
Speaker 1 (33:26):
So yeah, I mean the pool right now is working
for Marvel for example.
Speaker 6 (33:30):
Yeah, a lot of them are. I mean you look
at the high mind like from mar.
Speaker 4 (33:34):
Yeah, what do you have? We were talking about that,
weren't we?
Speaker 6 (33:44):
So I actually could forget boys, but I was trying
to get it.
Speaker 5 (33:50):
But Robert Kirkman though, But like Robert Kirkman and Garth
Ennis aren't being subtle and the fact that they're ripping
off and making parodies of these characters, So I feel
like that's a little different words Lucas.
Speaker 1 (34:03):
He said, I.
Speaker 3 (34:07):
I know what he actually likes.
Speaker 17 (34:14):
A superheroes, and a lot of his work is just
how much heats. It comes hard to divorce too, because
he puts a lot of.
Speaker 3 (34:30):
Emotion into the boys.
Speaker 2 (34:34):
So fun fact, we've actually have talked about this with
Derek Robertson, who is the artist for The Boys, and
they kind of touch on that a little bit.
Speaker 5 (34:43):
And I have one of the questions I had when
we interviewed him, was was it ever difficult to draw
these scenes because they're dark?
Speaker 6 (34:49):
And he immediately was like, no, I have a sick mind.
That's one of the highlights of our podcast.
Speaker 5 (34:55):
I was like, but no, I do understand that, And like,
I guess for me because I enjoy it, and I
love it so much, I can enjoy the satire of
it while realizing this is this may not be coming
from like and like, what Robert Krooky is doing is
not as bad as what Garth and it's creative. But
then when you see God from Supernatural doing the things
(35:17):
he's done, I'm.
Speaker 6 (35:19):
Just here for the rise. I'm just enjoying it. Are
you watching The Boys?
Speaker 3 (35:23):
I am watching it. I'm not saying that, I'm saying.
Speaker 6 (35:27):
That it takes it away a little oh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 5 (35:41):
Whereas Robert Kirkman, I feel like genuinely loves superheroes, and
Robert Kirkman too, he loves happy endings. So if you
want to read a comic and you know what's going
to end well, like even Walking Dead had a very good,
happy ending in the comic.
Speaker 6 (35:55):
Well, the show will never end.
Speaker 10 (36:02):
What the scores going and.
Speaker 5 (36:08):
Super He's saying anybody with power can't be good.
Speaker 17 (36:15):
People in general, if they were going to be bad,
he's saying, there's nothing good.
Speaker 6 (36:21):
Well, Starlight never went bad. I don't like her in
the show, but I like her in the comic. But
nobody's pursua that she's not perfect.
Speaker 3 (36:35):
She has something.
Speaker 6 (36:37):
I genuinely hate her in the show.
Speaker 10 (36:38):
I don't know what.
Speaker 5 (36:39):
Every season I hate her more, maybe because I love
Jens and Apples and she was mean to sold her boy.
Speaker 8 (36:43):
I know that's not how She's so annoying, Like she
was powering up and the biggest thing that happened with
a flash of.
Speaker 1 (36:50):
Lights, like, sit down, I'm ever stuck in a dark tunnel.
Speaker 6 (36:53):
You've embarrassed all of us here.
Speaker 1 (36:54):
Power went out.
Speaker 3 (36:58):
The idea, in my opinion, yes, would be.
Speaker 1 (37:11):
There would be a really good mix.
Speaker 5 (37:12):
Yeah, two people, right, and Homelander is killing them as
we were commercializing it.
Speaker 4 (37:21):
She's kind of promise.
Speaker 2 (37:26):
Hold on, I gotta I got a good point about
a good and bad so Jason Todd, since your your
Red Hood, I I do want to talk about this
because we have a good comparison.
Speaker 1 (37:38):
So Jason Ton and Bucky Barnes, they are.
Speaker 9 (37:42):
We do have.
Speaker 4 (37:42):
So Jason Todd, go ahead.
Speaker 2 (37:49):
You know, Jason Todd did come in Batman six thirty five,
February five, they introduced Obviously.
Speaker 4 (37:56):
Bucky Barnes had always been around.
Speaker 2 (37:58):
However, you know, Bucky Barnes came out as nineteen nineteen
forty one, but his first actual iteration as the Winter
Soldier wasn't until May of two thousand and five, where
so two.
Speaker 4 (38:10):
Months out a lot of this stuff.
Speaker 1 (38:11):
It's funny because.
Speaker 4 (38:14):
Jason died.
Speaker 10 (38:14):
Yes we have.
Speaker 1 (38:19):
As Red Hood February two thousand and five.
Speaker 2 (38:22):
Okay, but Jason died in like they let did you
guys know that they left it to a vote whether
or not.
Speaker 1 (38:30):
They literally vote here he died.
Speaker 6 (38:36):
I'm in a vote that would never happen.
Speaker 1 (38:38):
Never did they mail it in?
Speaker 3 (38:42):
What do you have.
Speaker 5 (38:45):
The one good character in.
Speaker 3 (38:52):
Winter?
Speaker 1 (38:53):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (38:53):
No, that's so, That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (38:54):
So they were two months apart.
Speaker 2 (38:56):
So Red Hood came back February two thousand and five,
whereas Winter Soldier got injured used May two thousand and five,
which is always funny because how how did they find
DC and Marvel somebody is.
Speaker 4 (39:06):
Probably what they're doing.
Speaker 1 (39:08):
You should do this, Oh ship Bucky.
Speaker 2 (39:10):
Bar it's a great idea, you know, he was basically
the same thing. And because a lot of these, as
we found through research and just reading comics, a lot
of them are mere single digit months apart.
Speaker 4 (39:21):
What do you have?
Speaker 1 (39:22):
Also like a coffeeat of another d.
Speaker 10 (39:27):
Which is.
Speaker 1 (39:31):
One of his many red ex also of the character
that's there's another character tool that's just me in the summertime.
Speaker 4 (39:55):
When I get a sunburn, I'm the red Tool.
Speaker 6 (39:58):
I'm a fucking goon because you're a tool and you're red.
Speaker 1 (40:02):
Anyways, speaking of red, what do you hold on?
Speaker 6 (40:05):
I was a confused, as.
Speaker 1 (40:14):
Oh, that's a whole other conversation. I would love to
but before we do have some more red carot raven.
Speaker 25 (40:24):
No, I was gonna mention Red Tornado and Vision because
like Red Tornado was two months before Vision in.
Speaker 1 (40:35):
His first iteration in nineteen sixty eight, was to kill,
just like Vision was.
Speaker 2 (40:39):
But yes, we do want because Lobo, we have put
that you're the wolverine experts, so why don't you take
it well?
Speaker 1 (40:47):
Experts?
Speaker 5 (40:48):
Okay, So Wolby obviously came out in nineteen seventy four,
and incredible hull of one.
Speaker 6 (40:53):
I think Wolverine is genuinely the best of what he does.
I think he is a genuine hero.
Speaker 5 (40:57):
I think every time he acts like he is a villain,
it's because he can't admit or accept the fact that
he is just nothing but awesomeness. Like he makes the
tough decisions, but he always makes the right decisions, and
he still struggles with that. The only time he makes
bad decisions when you're being brainwashed.
Speaker 4 (41:11):
Lobo was a parody of Wolverine, so you're right here.
Speaker 6 (41:15):
For that reason, I don't know Lobo well at all.
I have not read comics. I've read a lot of
wo I've never read a single comics.
Speaker 1 (41:23):
I've never read a comics.
Speaker 5 (41:27):
I've never read a Lobo comic. But obviously we're about
to get him on the screen with Jason Mola. And
what's interesting is when we were preparing for these panels,
because these two originally prepared, I ended up joining last minute.
Speaker 6 (41:37):
They live in Virginia.
Speaker 5 (41:38):
I live in Florida, and I put Wolverine is not
having a dopp lookker and then one of the two
of you today was like, oh.
Speaker 6 (41:45):
What about Lobo.
Speaker 1 (41:46):
Listen, do you have to deal with on this podcast? Wolverine?
This wolverine that you know?
Speaker 2 (41:53):
Okay, well, Wolverine over cries about pray every five seconds.
Speaker 18 (41:57):
At least.
Speaker 4 (41:59):
You know, at least.
Speaker 6 (42:03):
Okay.
Speaker 5 (42:04):
So I want to ask I want to ask you guys,
do you know anything about Logo because you're more Marvel
too so but okay, so outside of regeneration, how does
Lobo relate to Wolvey?
Speaker 4 (42:16):
Well, other than the fact that he was literally a parody,
I mean, a neither one knows how to shave.
Speaker 6 (42:25):
Pissed off, but not a wolf.
Speaker 5 (42:31):
In fun fact, Hugh Jackman thought a wolverine was a
wolf and was like, acting like a wolf.
Speaker 4 (42:36):
Don't worry, we can jump the mic after that moment.
Speaker 8 (42:40):
We don't have to go into it was a really
good points. Would you like come up here and get
a free comic for it?
Speaker 9 (42:46):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (42:46):
Yeah, we have, we have comics. Sorry, Megan's been dying
to give these away. I'm comic, just been ignoring me
this whole time.
Speaker 10 (42:54):
We have Thank you so much. Enjoy.
Speaker 1 (42:57):
Robin said this free Comics. It got so you can
hit me with the crow bar?
Speaker 3 (43:01):
What do you have?
Speaker 1 (43:04):
He put his hand down. No, I'm not going to
hit you. I'm just the battery or that you have
a cur.
Speaker 6 (43:10):
Is Joker here or Billy Butterer.
Speaker 3 (43:12):
What's happening?
Speaker 1 (43:14):
No, he's just in the Mighty Ducks the Bash Brothers
come on?
Speaker 4 (43:18):
Do yes?
Speaker 1 (43:21):
So braining that was obviously.
Speaker 6 (43:24):
We do have that here.
Speaker 8 (43:26):
So Braining Act came out in nineteen fifty eight. Will
Ultron came out in nineteen sixty eight, ten years later. Yes,
why don't you think they are?
Speaker 4 (43:37):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (43:37):
Okay ai?
Speaker 4 (43:47):
Oh is Jason talk about to beat that at? Oh
there's weird.
Speaker 1 (43:58):
It's really weird, Like I feel like somebody off not
super intense.
Speaker 5 (44:11):
That's weird, but.
Speaker 3 (44:14):
He so he is?
Speaker 10 (44:16):
And what what do you know?
Speaker 4 (44:17):
Like Ultron?
Speaker 26 (44:17):
Who?
Speaker 1 (44:18):
How would you compare the two between Bradiant.
Speaker 4 (44:20):
Who is more intense?
Speaker 1 (44:21):
I guess you would say, I mean Ultron kills the Avengers.
I like that, and he kills the Fox kills also
kills cops, which is never mind? Do you have we
do have Adam?
Speaker 27 (44:42):
And so I feel like the so Adam was first
introduced in Showcase Nomber thirty four, nineteen sixty.
Speaker 2 (44:54):
One of October, whereas ant Man was you know, tails
to Astonished twenty seven January nineteen.
Speaker 6 (44:59):
Sixty So ant Man's older and I am in an
obvious Man.
Speaker 1 (45:04):
Is younger nineteen sixty two.
Speaker 6 (45:06):
Compared to sixty four.
Speaker 1 (45:09):
Sixty one.
Speaker 5 (45:11):
Oh, I'm really bad at math, but obviously at post.
Speaker 1 (45:17):
I do love.
Speaker 3 (45:25):
Well.
Speaker 2 (45:25):
It's kind of like Superman and Century. Like Century is
kind of a rip off of Superman as well.
Speaker 4 (45:32):
Yeah, I know you talked.
Speaker 6 (45:34):
About that earlier, so I just said, so we're about
to get Century though. Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 22 (45:41):
I don't who, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (45:43):
I wouldn't say so. It's kind of like a blend
between Superman and She's a because well, I only say
that for the durability and the lightning aspect, because nobody
in DC that can really think up off the top
of my head. Before I get the blue shirt, I know,
(46:08):
my friend and the jean jacket. You had your hand up.
Speaker 1 (46:11):
What would you have? Yes, you, I don't think you're killing.
Speaker 4 (46:18):
You're googling real quick, blue shirt?
Speaker 3 (46:19):
What do you have? I knew it got.
Speaker 6 (46:32):
Who Michael was saying that earlier.
Speaker 4 (46:34):
Michael counter, I thought.
Speaker 2 (46:43):
But well, because they they dive in the hell a
little bit, right, That's a good I mean that is
a good comparison because John Constantine does often dive in
the hell and Doctor Strange more or less does.
Speaker 5 (46:55):
Yeah, I guess I just feel like their personalities are
so different. I never see thesers if that doesn't make sense.
Speaker 2 (47:06):
He feels passionately about this. I hope you have that
girl bar handy. Oh tough luck, but sorry your toast.
He's got he's got the clothes. I heard, Yeah, but
(47:29):
wasn't The eternals and everything were kind of ripped off
of the New Gods from d C, especially with dark
Side and things being introduced first.
Speaker 1 (47:37):
I'm was that.
Speaker 6 (47:41):
Blue shirt?
Speaker 1 (47:42):
That was a really great question.
Speaker 6 (47:43):
You get a comment.
Speaker 1 (47:45):
I just love that, making Stepan sundtrack just like comments
you're idiot, you have a whole trunk.
Speaker 6 (47:52):
If the whole time not knowing to parry the pats
on the shirt.
Speaker 4 (47:58):
I think there's a panel after us. I've believe, I
don't know, just.
Speaker 1 (48:03):
Didn't show up. That's true. Yeah, we should kind of
start to wrap it up.
Speaker 6 (48:08):
I got to say Wolverine, which is obviously my favorite,
so why don't Megan, and you say your favorite, want
to your favorite.
Speaker 2 (48:15):
Just just in general, because we got we do have
to wrap the Supprecasus, Spider.
Speaker 4 (48:20):
Man, the Night night Crawler, Nightcrawler, Why Crawler?
Speaker 1 (48:26):
Dude, Alan Cummings in the Traders.
Speaker 8 (48:30):
When they announced him, it was the four and a
half hours was almost worth it.
Speaker 10 (48:36):
Was yes, we have a new.
Speaker 6 (48:37):
Hand back there.
Speaker 1 (48:39):
Oh yeah, come on here, you.
Speaker 6 (48:44):
You gotta come get a comic.
Speaker 1 (48:45):
Come get a comic and tell us what your hands off?
Speaker 4 (48:47):
Yeah, what do you say the chorus?
Speaker 1 (49:02):
I would say, but I don't think it was.
Speaker 6 (49:04):
But I don't think it was like a superk not off.
Speaker 1 (49:08):
No, yeah, meda humans, it's meta humans.
Speaker 6 (49:19):
And people die everybody that first.
Speaker 1 (49:22):
Hold on, We'll get one second. Do you patrol the
Actually I could see that.
Speaker 10 (49:30):
What do you have.
Speaker 1 (49:38):
Com get a comic book for that one?
Speaker 18 (49:41):
We are.
Speaker 5 (49:43):
Have a doppler And really that's really good because they're
both from.
Speaker 4 (49:49):
I don't know why, I never can.
Speaker 10 (49:53):
Yes, there is.
Speaker 18 (50:06):
It was.
Speaker 6 (50:08):
Moonnight Well black Adam. He had some mythology.
Speaker 2 (50:15):
Yeah, obviously his mythology was changing the DC universe, duh.
And instead he took John Cena and he turned the
heel and he made a kid cry.
Speaker 3 (50:25):
I didn't I do that?
Speaker 5 (50:29):
Was did y'all see Carl John John's dad and his
voice John John's Well, my man.
Speaker 4 (50:43):
Had something up right here before to wrap up, you
do have like I mean, they were the O G sidekicks.
You are correct. Robbie got introduced very early.
Speaker 6 (50:55):
Uh wait, someone said doom Patrol.
Speaker 2 (50:58):
Well they were complete hold on here first information on
Captain of America being a ripoff of Shield.
Speaker 3 (51:05):
From Archie Comics, which.
Speaker 1 (51:09):
My wife loves.
Speaker 4 (51:11):
Arch the.
Speaker 1 (51:15):
But then Marvel got had the change. I love suing
people before get mister Miracle. Oh see, we didn't have
mister Miracles.
Speaker 3 (51:27):
A lot of people know that.
Speaker 6 (51:28):
Who said doom Patrol on a.
Speaker 5 (51:31):
Come up? Doom Patrol is actually like four months before
X Men. They came out both in nineteen sixty three.
Speaker 4 (51:39):
Dang.
Speaker 6 (51:39):
I think Doom Patrol obviously evolved into.
Speaker 11 (51:43):
And what the is there?
Speaker 6 (51:44):
Catchphrase? And I think the X Men took a light
to their own moleculemas the swamp.
Speaker 4 (51:53):
Thing and man Thing, So we did Someone did say
man Thing earlier, Yes.
Speaker 1 (51:59):
We did have that.
Speaker 5 (52:00):
Man Thing is May seventy one and swamp Thing is
July seventy one, and they both have very similar origins
scientists gotton a field experiment which transforms him into a
much drous creature.
Speaker 6 (52:10):
But how cute is man thing?
Speaker 10 (52:12):
And it was by night?
Speaker 6 (52:14):
Oh it wasn't wearing by night. It was wearing by night,
My bad? How cute was he? His head?
Speaker 3 (52:21):
She came at you.
Speaker 6 (52:24):
Because I see him?
Speaker 4 (52:25):
All right, one last one before we wrap up. Blue shirt.
Speaker 10 (52:31):
Oh that.
Speaker 1 (52:35):
Man, because they're both scientists.
Speaker 26 (52:38):
Looking to cure in Yeah, she got in the lizards,
but again.
Speaker 2 (52:51):
In gosh, blue shirt coming into comic book real quick,
you've been crushing it.
Speaker 6 (52:56):
I feel like.
Speaker 1 (52:58):
I feel like red Hood and my manser the pink
shirt as well. We got three left?
Speaker 3 (53:02):
Is that right?
Speaker 1 (53:03):
Wait? Pink shirt, pink shirt and right.
Speaker 28 (53:06):
Now, Okay, I'm sorry, I've been talking too much of
what you have. I have a ton of my I
was gonna.
Speaker 24 (53:16):
Say to my trunk, I have a ton, come on,
I have so many, but as both I didn't even
see the back.
Speaker 1 (53:29):
Of the shirt to now, Oh my god, low jaw, princess.
That's going on all of the.
Speaker 2 (53:38):
Galaxy con socials. Damn it right there for that, I'm amazing, amazing,
just alright, So we believe there is a panel. Maybe
I feel like they're coming to a point. But as
we do wrap up, you said yours flash off the
(53:59):
mean Batman or my.
Speaker 1 (54:00):
Holy Trinity, if you will, it's I mean.
Speaker 4 (54:03):
You're not gonna like my answer.
Speaker 1 (54:04):
It's Barry Allen because because at least I got to
grow up.
Speaker 3 (54:12):
Damn it.
Speaker 1 (54:13):
But Robin, we're both adopted, so I don't want to
tell you I'm sorry.
Speaker 4 (54:19):
It is Barry.
Speaker 1 (54:20):
I do like Barry because for me, for me, Barry
Allen is I.
Speaker 4 (54:26):
Don't have anything against Wallet.
Speaker 1 (54:27):
I've always grabbed. When I started reading Flash he outruns
this depression, which is something I t.
Speaker 4 (54:40):
I love to run, and we both got run depression.
Speaker 1 (54:42):
Blue shirt.
Speaker 3 (54:47):
Batman the.
Speaker 2 (54:52):
U No, that's what Bill Scar's guard and he totally
hangs dong and it's on bees wall at his house.
Speaker 17 (55:03):
Remember, but they basically and there was a character that
basically a female dog Batman where her parents are like Hippi,
who wasn't.
Speaker 10 (55:21):
I could.
Speaker 6 (55:24):
We have to wrap up? There's a allegedly another one
after this.
Speaker 1 (55:29):
Last night there was on but I never showed up.
How do you follow up? Come on, guys, what am
I saying?
Speaker 4 (55:39):
I have a bigger personally?
Speaker 6 (55:43):
So and I will see you outside.
Speaker 4 (55:45):
Okay, you can't die.
Speaker 10 (55:48):
Don't bring that you see that at the end of this.
Speaker 1 (55:55):
First Yeah, thank you, thank you, my man.
Speaker 4 (56:01):
D C changed comic books.
Speaker 6 (56:05):
Okay. I think what Marvel did better was the Iron.
Speaker 1 (56:08):
Man movie that.
Speaker 4 (56:11):
I think what d C did better was The Dark Knight.
Speaker 5 (56:13):
As far as culture goes, iron Man, it changed everything
and made Marvel of house.
Speaker 6 (56:20):
I made Rocket Raccoon.
Speaker 1 (56:21):
A house iron.
Speaker 5 (56:22):
Meanwhile, all DC ever did was Batman and Superman over
and over again.
Speaker 1 (56:26):
And like watching.
Speaker 2 (56:29):
Yes, well, clearly you guys look alike. It's it's all
the blood and it's all the dark. Obviously, what the hell.
Speaker 9 (56:42):
Did they think?
Speaker 6 (56:42):
Did they think you were venom? But that still doesn't
make sense.
Speaker 1 (56:45):
That it's obviously the helmet that looks just like Spider Man.
Speaker 6 (56:49):
Clearly, maybe just a dumb.
Speaker 1 (56:58):
Asses superboy.
Speaker 3 (57:03):
Boy.
Speaker 1 (57:05):
I wish Ken is here because you love them us.
Speaker 3 (57:10):
Oh my god? All right.
Speaker 2 (57:13):
Legitimately, though, guys, you got the past two nights a
lot of you guys that come here. I cannot tell
you how much fun it has been getting to talk
to everybody here, getting interact. That's what comic cons are
all about. I hope I won't be here tomorrow. We
won't be tomorrow. I hope everybody who is here the
rest of the night or tomorrow has a great time.
You can find us, You can grab stickers if you
want to find us, whether it's our comic book reviews
at their initiative Hopsteek News Megan.
Speaker 5 (57:35):
And sometimes we do live podcast where people can chime
in and comments.
Speaker 4 (57:41):
That's great.
Speaker 2 (57:42):
Daredevil and Spider Man were on our show last night
and I have so much editing to do that it's
gonna come out soon. And but seriously, thank you guys
so much for comments on comic books. I can't wait
to see you guys again.
Speaker 4 (57:54):
And so thank you for real.
Speaker 10 (57:56):
Thank you
Speaker 1 (57:58):
Might is courage
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