April 18, 2025 • 42 mins
In honor of Easter this sunday and it being on 4/20 we revisit the cult classic film Mallrats which takes us to a dating show in a mall featuring our friend Brian O'Halloran, Jay and Silent Bob, Stan Lee, Ben Affleck, and so many more!
We discuss our favorite quotes, moments, and fun facts as well as Lauren's passion for punching an Easter Bunny.
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Speaker 1 (00:28):
Snoochy Bouchi's my friends, and welcome back to another episode
of Hopskeeek News, where today we are celebrating mal Rats
in honor of Easter. Who doesn't want to punch an
Easter Bunny? Lauren definitely does, as she let Brian o'holleran
our very good friend Brian o'hallaran at that aka suitor
number three. No from mal Rats. We are talking about Malrats.
(00:49):
It turns thirty this year. Yes, the nineteen ninety five
film debut in October of nineteen ninety five, Kevin Smith's
second film, and it was actually the first one in color.
So we will die into that in just a second.
No news, no notes, no fluff. We're gonna get into it.
But first things first, search Hops geek News on any
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Sunday night of the twenty seventh. I believe it is
Patreon Movie Night, so we like to do monthly. We
were gonna do mall Rats, but Stacy, one of our Patreons,
found an even better movie, A B rated awful movie
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(01:33):
slash hopskeeek News if you want to support the show
social media's you can find us. My beer of the
week one of like the only non Treehouse beers I
have right now. It's a Pacific Mischief by Tripping Animals,
which I did get to go to their Oakland Avenue.
I believe it was called a location in Fort Lauderdale, Florida.
I didn't get this from there, though, I just happened
(01:54):
to have it. Funny enough. I love this movie. We'll
talk about it in a second, Lauren, I know, oh god,
I okay. Your thing says that kid is back on
the escalator again. And I need to tell a quick
story because while we were on the Disney cruise, Carrie
and I you know us, we don't mind kids. We
got kids, right, but we were in the eighteen plus
(02:15):
area and there were kids that kept coming in the
so I was like, Carrie, I feel as though I
am in mall rats and I was like, that kid
is back on the escalator again. Because I was like,
the kid is back in the pool again, and we
were so like, get the kids out of here.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
We're I have to walk through that area with my
kids because sometimes you like you can walk through. Yeah,
I tell my kids, I'm like, you don't talk with anybody.
You just walked directly through there.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
There were kids trying to get in the pool that
they had. Yes, they like they kicked him out, like
it was like they did. But initially there was so
much going on. When we first got on the boat.
We went right to the pool because you can't go
to your room. That I was basically carried. That kid
is back in the pool again, And God, I love
this movie. What are you drinking? First and foremost before
(03:02):
we dive into this movie.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
Funny enough, I'm drinking a treouse. I do have an
amasive species on deck that I had more appropriate for this.
So once I finished this because we bolty recorded tonight
and I'm we did drinker and so I am almost
done with this, not really mean this is I'll let
you know what happened the next one. It's going to
be relevant.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
Reason one man all right, three and one dumped it.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
In my Vader glass though, because Kevin Smith or Silent
Bob is.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
Trying to do the first I forgot my Roosevelt's Jane
and Silent Bob shirt. I'm just not repping the brand tonight.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
I I sweached to Wolverine because Jade does a whole
scene about berserk greage.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
You did the wardrobe changes usually I'm the wardrobe change
one you did. I'm really proud of you. Blacken. We
didn't record for like a week and a half, two weeks,
and this is what happens. But this film stars Jeremy London,
who actually fun fact, in Pensacon twenty fifteen, Carrie bumped
into why him and his wife were in this crowded
(04:01):
We were in this crowded room meeting the Black Power
Ranger and him and his wife were walking. They're pushing
the stroller with their infant, Carrie worth six feet plus
both of us, and it was a very crowded room.
She bumped into the stroller. His wife was super chill.
Jeremy London hated.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
Carrie in any of the other movies, like everybody else heard.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
He's an a hole, you know. But he does have
a brother.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
I can't imagine that Kevin Smith would continue to work
with somebody who was an a hole.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
Very true. Uh. This also stars Jason Lee, the late
Shannon Doherty, Ben Affleck, the late Stan Lee obviously, Kevin
Smith and Jason mus are in this. Michael Rooker is
in this aka Mary Poppins, Joey, Lauren Adams, and many more.
This is written and directed by the one and only
Kevin Smith. This is actually the first Kevin Smith film
(04:49):
that I personally ever watched. When I was a teenager,
we would get into my friend's garage and this was
the movie that was our entire personality. When I was
fourteen years old, we quoted it fly fat ass Fly.
My other friend coincidentally named Matt. He would walk around
you know, Snoogan's snoochy bouchies. That was his thing, and
(05:11):
we just lived for this movie. The chocolate covered pretzels
with Michael Booker. This, this whole movie is nothing short
of fantastic. So before we get into the plot, when
did you first watch this movie? Because, like I said,
I was, But do we lad?
Speaker 2 (05:28):
So it's funny you actually met my friend Brandy this weekend.
I did for the very first time. So Brandy and
I are the ones who watched all these together. So
I watched Clerks first. So we were basically we were
best friends dating best friends in high school, and they
forced us to watch Clerks and Nick her oh no,
the blunt Man and Chronic poster on the wall, and
(05:48):
we didn't know who that was. And so when Ben
and Nick made us watch this Clerks and I've said
this on the podcast before, we're like, why the creen
making us watch a black and white movie, and they're like, no, no, no,
It's gonna get better. D da dah. So then we
we watched all of them, Mall Rats and Chasing Amy,
and by the time Jay and Silent Bob strike Back
came out, we had broken up with them, but we
went to the movie together and saw Jay and Silent
pub But mal Rats was always like our favorite because
(06:11):
it was the most I guess relevant to us. You know,
we were yeah girls in the late nineties early two
thousands who as soon as we got our paycheck because
we worked together at the daycare and we would play
in syncs, just got paid and we would go to
the mall a lot of money. So yeah, we would,
you know, you would hang out at the mall and
people would meet you at the mall and you would
do dumb crap at the mall.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
Let me go to the mall.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
Oh, my god. Brielle's watching How I Met Your Mother
and she time, oh, it was the Robin Sparkles episode
and it's also when they established the slap that is
the first Those are the same episode, and so when
it started, I looked at Brielle.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
And like, oh, it was Barney thought she was doing
porn and it was yes.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
But Brielle has heard the Let's Go to the Mall
song because it's on Just Dance for We and she's
heard us sing it. So then when it came come on,
I'm like kind of looking at her and she's like,
this is really from this So yeah, so that was fun,
but it is. But yeah, so Mall rats we both
love Mallratz right away. But what's really funny is the
first time I watched it, I knew nothing about Marvel.
(07:13):
I knew nothing about Star Wars. The only Star Wars
I'd watched was a New Hope that my mom forced
me to watch when I was thirteen. I had never
seen like X Manhattan come out. I knew nothing. Sure,
I probably knew who Spider Man was, and like, I mean,
I knew Superman and Batman because.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
Right the basics. I mean, but once that everybody kind
of knows.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
Yeah, there was no mainstream Marvel movies. I was not
watching cartoons and so rewatching it later in life. I mean,
I've rewatched it marats a bunch of times, but like,
I get so much more more of the jokes, and
it's so cool and like the stan Lee thing. And
then I remember when you know, when Stanley's reading the
script and Captain Marvel. I thought that was so cool.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
Oh, such a good callback to Oh my god, dude,
I totally forgot that he did that part. I knew
he was in the movie obviously, but I forgot that
he was reading this script because, uh, miss Marvel or
Captain Marvel' excuse me takes place at the same Oh dude.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
Yeah. So when we actually asked Brian and Jeff that
when we first met them in Utah, how did it
feel to know that your characters exist in the MCU, Like,
that's so cool because yeah, Mall Rats, I mean Brian
o'holland was in Mall Rats. But I mean, if exist,
there's callbacks to clerks, which there is exists. But yeah,
well that was actually a trivia question, a bonus trivia question,
(08:32):
which is how I won Marvel Trivia at Dead Words
that one day because I bet at all right on
the bonus question, and that was question, oh man going
to be the bonus question too. I was like, I
bet it's going to be Captain.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
Marvel the answers ahead of time. Look at that.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
I don't know. It came to me, well, Jedi mind
or maya spider.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
Sense the This movie is actually considered a flop. So
Kevin Smith did Clerk it was a hit. This movie
was a flop. The budget was six point one million,
and it only grossed two point one million dollars four
hundred thousand dollars on its Friday opening on eight hundred screens,
one point two million on its opening weekend, and then
only two million, one hundred and twenty two thousand, five
(09:14):
hundred and sixty one dollars, so it had I don't
understand how this movie is a flop because I like
this movie more than Clerks. I'll say it. I love Clerks.
I personally think mal Rats was a superior film for
various other reasons. This movie is fun. If this movie
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came out today, people would have fun with it.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
I think I think I've always enjoyed Maul Rats more,
but like having gone back and watched Clerks older, I
feel like Clerics is more clever. I think is more fun.
But like some of the jokes in Clerics is just.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
Like thirty seven in a row, right, like who comes.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
Up with this? Like it was? It was, but there
was some really brilliant Peter Dick and joke funny.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
Nothing is better than Dogma by Kevin In my opinion,
Dogma is the superior Kevin Smith film of them all.
It's not Tusk.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
Dogma's also though, I feel like his first movie that
was just I mean, it's riddled with stars. I mean
it is Alan Rickman, Chris Rock, like I heard.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
I don't know if that's true.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
Oh my gosh. Oh I should have said, oh my god,
because that would have made sense. Well, and was it Sama.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
Hayak like, yeah, that's right, she was, Yes.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
But I don't know if this is true. We do
need to do a proper episode on Dogma at some point,
and we will.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
Well, it's coming back to theaters in June, I believe,
because he has the rights back, so we will do
a proper one. Yes, he's gonna take on the road.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
We are, But I believe that Kevin Smith was always
very strict on stick to the script, and then when
you cast Chris Rock, I guess it.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
Was a little Chris Rock's not going to go.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
Afle and Matt Damon. You probably said them when I
was saying people.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
No, I didn't say them, but you're right. So diving
into the plot here spoilers.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
Is Loki who plays Loki later?
Speaker 1 (11:07):
Okay, yes, if you've never seen mal Rats and you're here,
I'm sorry, but it's also thirty years old, so.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
You can rent it on Amazon right now. I actually
did a free trial of Filo and I watched it
and then I immediately canceled it because Filo is like
twenty dollars.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
A month with what the hell was Filo?
Speaker 2 (11:24):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
I can't keep up, man, Oh my god, the good
old days of going to Blockbuster are gone. So Ts
is ready to propose to his girlfriend Brandy played by
Shannon Doherty in Florida. Wait, Brandy's not sure. Oh it's
it's yes. No, sorry, yes, yes, I don't know. Evan
Smith's girlfriend at the time, who is God blessed Joey
(11:49):
Lauren Adams.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
That's not Adams either.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
Are you sure I'm sure.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
I bet my oldest on it, my kids on it.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
Oh my gosh, who invited me to this? Because Claire
for Lannie is Brandy.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
Jesus, I didn't know her name.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
Yes, I am terribly sorry.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
She okay, she's a fine girl.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
She is okay. Sorry, that's because, yes, Claire for Lonnie
plays Brandy. I will get my character straight, I promise you,
Geez Louise, Brandy is the one Brandy. No, Joey Lauren
Adams was the one that was underage and Ben Affleck
kept going after.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
No, Joey Lauren Adams is the one who's getting dressed
in Kevin Smith side of the bob keeps crashing into
the dressing room.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
Oh my god, she wasn't old. The underage girl is
the goth girl. I'm sorry, yes, yes, yes, I'm sorry.
You're right, all right, Joey Lauren Adams is Gwen. I'm sorry.
Renee Humphrey, I believe is who I'm talking about. Uh.
I think she played Tricia. That might be her.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
Tricia is the one who's doing the sex stuff, the
underaged girl.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
Yes, yes, that's the one about Anyways, anyways, good sweet baby, Jesus. Anyways,
stick to the this is why I read the prompter.
Now he's planning on proposing to Brandy and Florida Universal
as soon as Jaws pops out, but instead he learns
after telling somebody that the camera adds ten pounds, said
person did so many lasts at the pool until an
(13:18):
embolism explodes and she dies. Well, she was supposed to
be in call in college dating show for Ts's girlfriend's dad,
so the girlfriend has to stand in Brandy Rose in
suitor number one, Suit number two, ser number three. They
fight and break up. Meanwhile, Brody gets dumped by his
girlfriend for essentially being a slacker burnout not going anywhere.
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That one is Shannon Doherty, So the two newly dumped
guys head to the mall because the mall used to
be a place where people would hang out at. Believe
it or not, Yes, the dating show is getting set up.
Jay and Silent Bob try to stop it. Shannon a
d bag, beats up Brody, but he yes, he tells
Jay and sid on Bob it was actually the Easter Bunny,
(14:03):
so they beat up the Easter Bunny. Much like Lauren
tried to do a galaxy con, Richmond.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
Didn't try to do it. I was just like, if
you're celebrating Easter, this might be a fun thing to do. Yes,
but Brian o'holler and said, do not be funny, so
we're not doing that.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
I love Brian so much, man, I love him. So
Brody and his girlfriend have sex in an elevator. However,
they stay broken up. Stan Lee is at a comic
book shop and Brody cannot get his comics. So then
Brody teaches Ts the stink palm with chocolate covered pretzels.
At the request of Ts, Stanley gives a very lovely
(14:38):
superhero love speech to Brody. This is when TS and
Brodie joined the Dating show alongside Gil Hicks, who is
Brian o'holleran our friend, and Ts proposes to Brandy. She
says yes as Brody professes love to Renee sonent Bob.
This is the force to get the videotape, a very
inappropriate videotape at that one. That is a button man
(15:01):
with a fifteen year.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
Old, which is hot, Ben Affleck and.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
Tricia being our fifteen year old. We end with a
very nineties ending of where they end up. TS and
Brandy got married. Rest in peace to the Jaws ride.
I did get to do the cool universal Hollywood Jaws thing.
That was fun. Brody gets to host the Tonight Show
with Renee as bandleader. Wilhelm eventually saw the it's not
(15:27):
it's a schooner, a schooner, a sellboat, idiot. No, that's
what I'm saying as a kid, you idiot. It's not
a sell boat. It's a schooner. And the kids like
a sailboat. It's a schooner, you idiot, but isn't really great.
And then we end with Jay and Silent Bob with
Suzanne who later meet in Jay and Silent Bob strike
(15:50):
back six years later. This is a tale I forgot
that that was I forgot as well. I did too,
And this is a movie all about being young, dumb,
in love and at a mall, which if you are
in Massachusetts, the Burlington Mall is about the only mall
that I've ever seen that's still hot that place.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
So there's a lot of hot malls still in Orlando
that at malls are always slammed, Millennium malls always slammed,
Florida malls always slammed. But then when you go to
the regular malls, they're not needle malls like trying to
be like they have like a gym and a place
where kids can play in their brewery just closed, but
they have a movie theater and like a paint and
drink kind of thing. So but I think in Orlando
(16:32):
over in you your tourist hown because like Florida mall
has an American girls store in the M and M store,
But like you're not seeing local high school kids hang
out there.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
No no high school kid hangs out the mall anymore.
We used to get dropped off by my friend Matt.
His mom would take us. We would find rides to
the mall. We would hang out, be degenerates, you know,
meet up with girls and some cases, yeah I'm.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
Saying shopping at Abercrombie.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
See we would go to Newburry girls.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
Who wore Abercrombie and Fitch.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
Did your mall? Okay, that's Oh the lunch date from
Invasive Species. I had that one. It's wicked good. I
love that kid.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
So yes, I picked this one because it's date because
it's a dating show and finished or not.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
Oh my god, so he's I love that Brody was
you know, he's on the plane and they think they're
going to crash, so he just pulls it out and
he just starts jacketing, and all of a sudden the
plane stable asses And I love Brian's character. She goes, well,
did he finish or what? Jesus christ Man, there's just
some things you don't talk about.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
After he just told that whole story.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
Oh it's so good this movie is. I love it.
I love it.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
Even the opener is so nineties.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
It is in you know, Michael Rooker plays Brandy's dad.
He's the guy in charge. He doesn't like tes.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
I looked up he was like forty because I'm like,
he's not old enough to have a high schooler. And
he's like forty one.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
He does look old, but not old, if that makes sense.
This movie.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
This movie's thirty years old. And you look at him today.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
I was, he's like seventy today. Really hold on, let me.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
Look it up. I looked it up before. I mean,
I mean, I never really wanted I have a college
age kid.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
Fair fair I mean, but yeah, I went to Newberry
Comics all the time. That would you know? My mall
had a comic book shop, which Newberry Comics is out there.
He said, wow, so he was.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
He was forty when this movie came out, actually, but
he had well, no, they were in college, so, I
mean they were graduating.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
They were going into college at that point.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
Right, So he had a kid at twenty one twenty two,
So that's not crazy. But it's just so funny because
I'm looking at him in this and it's like I
knew him. I didn't realize that was him when I
knew him as moral.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
Well obviously growing up, yeah, oh yeah, I forgot all
about that. That's why he wasn't the Walking Dead.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
Yes, so knowing him as moral and then it was like,
oh shit, I didn't realize that was the guy from
All Rats and then obviously YANDU. So he still looks.
I don't know. I guess maybe the older I aged very.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
I don't know that's what I really had. I don't
feel his aged too much.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
Maybe it's because he's Mary Poppins, and Mary Poppins is Mary.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
Poppins, y'all. Well. I mean he even has good moments
in this film too. The grossest, obviously is the stink
Palm with the pretzels, where.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
All he's got those pretzels a little too hard.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
Oh he really is a little bag of pretzels and
their chocolate covered and they're melted, and he's licking his fingers.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
In Oh god, it was so gross.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
Yeah, that tiny bag holding his puke. No, there's no way, dude,
not a chance. Oh god, what were what were suing me?
Your favorite moments of this film?
Speaker 2 (19:42):
It's so hard because it's like what I remember the
first time I watched it, which was yeah, you know,
twenty five years ago, versus rewatching it because I rewatched it.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
I've seen it. Yeah, it's one of those movies that
it's almost a comfort movie to me. I wish I owned.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
Yeah. Yeah, the only one I own is Dance on
Bob strick Back.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
Oh wow.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
Yeah, I have that one DVD double DVD because I
have the extras too. So this movie definitely makes me
feel nostalgic in many ways, like yeah, flannel around the waist,
the baby, oh yes. Like looking at some of the outfits,
I'm like, this is stuff I wore. You know, they're
older than me, but they're not that much older than me.
(20:24):
Like I was still in high school in the nineties.
Uh using the R word oh my gosh, oh age. Well,
but it was standard usage back then.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
Okay, so this is where I guess we're going to
get canceled. Because the R word and then the F
word that's three letters for gay people was a big
thing in Boston. But it never meant you were slurring
gay people. It's was just something you called people when
you're mad at them. And so seeing some of those
things back then and how they use those words, and
(20:57):
then now it's like, oh god, we.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
Realized why that was a bad comparison, and I think
that's gross. I don't think that's getting canceled. Yeah, we
used to say gay like that was like a common
and that was calling something stupid. I mean I had
I mean I grew up in South Florida. I didn't
know that being gay was like frowned upon by so
many people until I was older, because nobody gave a crap.
(21:22):
But in like my yeah right, it wasn't until I
was older and I was actually in law school, and
it was a law school that attracted people from all
over the country, some of them international, And it was
a class about sexual identity and sexual orientation and in
the law and all this stuff and gender studies and whatnot.
It's really great class small class very much so, one
of those classes where you get to interact and discuss,
(21:44):
which was always my favorite kind of you know, class,
because I feel like that's really when you learn the most,
when you're listening to other people's experiences and comparing it
to the law and understanding things right where I heard
stories from gay people who did not grow up in
South Florida, and I was shocked. I had no idea.
Obviously now I'm very much so aware, but it was
(22:05):
like it makes you rethink, like like I don't even
like using the B word, saying bitch because it's such
a derogatory term focused on women.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
And uh, yeah, I guess I never really thought about
that way.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
Well, anyway, Shannon already saying, you know, calls him a forward,
and I was like, oh, that's yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
And then I mean, I guess in that moment.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
The script didn't do anything wrong.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
In the moment, I wonder if Ben Affleck's character went
on to become a politician since he was into fifteen
year olds. That's probably about the only thing that aged didn't.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
He go to jail. He went to jail because he
kept saying he wanted to do stuff to that girl.
In an uncomfortable position like the back of a volkswagon.
And obviously that's not what he meant. So when he
got arrested, they're like, oh, have fun. I heard guys
in jail like to do it in an uncomfortable spot.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
Oh my god, it was. But I also Jay and
Silent Bob. This was kind of your real first introduction
to them. And Silent Bob, well, I would say, well,
this was mine because obviously I watched this movie first
and I loved it. You know, they would talk about
Star Wars and then there was the whole use the
(23:12):
Force and that's when the videotape got bumped and Jay's like,
whoa in fun fact? You know this was since it
was the second movie. I know this is in our
fun facts. Despite Jason Muse having played Jay and Clerks,
he actually had the audition because the studio didn't want him.
Universal didn't want him. They wanted Seth Green instead. However,
Kevin fought for him. His audition obviously went well because
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he was Jay Muse, like.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
Right, the characters literally based off of him. But the
studio Jason mus and Jason Muse.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
That's what's always silly to me is the auditioning and
it's just ridiculous. But the studio is not going to
pay for his airfare hotel, which is also funny in
its own right. But while shopping, Renee Moser, who is
Shannon Doherty, is seen wearing at LEAs three different outfits.
Dirty had a clause in her contract at the time
that stated she could keep everything her character wore, so
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she came up with the plan that her character would
wear everything that she bought. Genius personally, I think that's hilarious.
That is amazing. Yes, I think it's genius as well.
What other fun facts do we have?
Speaker 2 (24:21):
So Stanley is in Captain Marvel. We already talked about that,
so universe exists in MCU. So while filming exteriors of them,
all production assistants would actually stick paper over some of
the New Jersey license plates because they weren't in Jersey. However, occasionally,
because they were in Minnesota, these mall customers with their
Minnesota license plates would drive away with the paper still attached.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
To Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
If you've seen the movie just under an hour, you
actually see ts like pick up a hat and he
tries it on and it's the Clerk's hat. So it's
a cute little.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
Yeah, that's fun.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
Yeah, there's a few nods.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
I know.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
We've done a couple Kevin Smith.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
We've done some Kevin Smith episodes. Yeah, but we never
dove into specific films. It's always been like, yeah, ever
arching in its own right.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
We may need to do some of the mathod.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
Well, we missed. This is also Clerk's thirtieth. No. Last
year was the Clerk's thirtieth. We missed that one.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
Stupid idiots.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
We're doing Dogma in Joe.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
Didn't we do Clerks?
Speaker 1 (25:23):
I think we did, But we're doing Dogma in June.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
Yeah, I think we did. I think we did Clerks.
I remember rewatching it, or maybe I just rewatched it
after you. Yeah. Anyways, uh, Gil Hicks is actually the
cousin of Dante Hicks, who's from Clerk's He's also a
reporter named Grant Hicks. And other Kevin Smith movies and
if you love all these different versions of Brian o' holler,
and there's actually a comic book called Quick Stops and
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one of us they actually go to a Hicks family
reunion and you give me all the Hicks and it's
it's funny and adorable.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
Those are those are good ones, you know, and Ben
aff like this is early on in his career. Actually,
you know, Matt and Ben were Matt and Ben. Jeez.
Kevin and Ben were friends for a while. But the
rumor is that Jennifer Garner didn't like Kevin for his immaturity,
so that's why they didn't talk for a period of time.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
She seems pretty chill.
Speaker 1 (26:15):
There might be some truth to that. But he did
come back, and jan sound bob back, so we'll see.
I don't know. Anyways, Ben Affleck did not love the
idea of being another dick after being one and dazed
and confused. He was actually worried he would get typecasted
as a dick. Well, this movie instead predicted him becoming Batman,
with a comic book cover of him as butt Man.
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Funny enough, and he did become Batman.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
So I was like Martha, Oh God.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
In the original version of the film, Ts accidentally shot
the Governor of New Jersey at a function hosted by
mister sus Venning, which helped explain Brandy's father hatred of
Ts throughout the film because that was a cartoon. In between,
there was a cartoon that went into all of this.
I have it on Plex. Actually funny.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
Yeah, I've watched some of them, but it was like
a million years ago.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
Yeah yeah, it really was. Preview audiences actually didn't love this,
so it was taken out. However, the Governor's Ball is
still mentioned. It's also because there was a thirty minutes
of extended cuts that were added into this film, and
there's a lot of different stuff that the audiences didn't
like that they took out.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
But they do. So I had read that fun fact,
and then when I was rewatching the movie, like there's
a scene where they're like talking to yan Do and
they're like, this better than not end up like the Governor's.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
Ball, And I was like, oh yeah, So in the
extended cut, the alternate opening scene is when the Governor's
Ball happens. Now the Governor in New Jersey is played
by Elizabeth Ashley, and the scene Ts is dressed as
a colonial musketeer. It accidentally gets his musket tangled up
in Brandy's hair, accidentally shoots the Governor on the roof
of a school, which ends up costing misters venting his
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reputation as well as the Big pay raise. This explains
the reason why s Venning shows an intense dislike for
Ts and why Brandy is so intent on breaking up
with him. The scene also makes no mention of Julie
Dwyer's death, as the theatric gold cut did. That cut
subplot was referenced in the final cut of the movie
where the TV execs mentioned to Seventning that they do
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not want to repeat of the Governor's Ball. Now. Some
other things where multiple lines throughout the movie are restored
related to Ts's attempt assassination on the governor. Many of
these have wildly different reasons for having Ts in the news,
such as Shannon's claim that he had tried to kidnap
the President's daughter. Now an extended sequence at Berdie's house
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where Ts is hounded by the media as a result
of his action at the Governor's Ball, including several TV
movie offers. There were scenes where Ts makes it known
to Brandy he proposed to marry her. Brody and Ts
arrive outside of the Vending's home so Ts can try
and reconcile during the confusion thanks to a news crew
chasing Ts, then interviewing Brody, who implies that mister Savenning
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and Brandy take part in a Santanic ritual. The news
records footage of Sevenning doing martial arts in a bath towel,
and so some of that, Yeah, some of the footage
was re edited into the theatrical release. Funny enough, there
was a naked There was actually a shot that shows
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the quick stop from Clerk's. There was a subplot of
Brody showing intentions of wanting to be on TV, which
explains his surprised look during his appearance on Truth or Date.
There's a scene with Miss Havana where she has several
restored lines. There is an arrest scene in which Lafores
wanted to put Brody and Ts into jail for an
extended period of time rather than overnight. There's a fight
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scene between Brody and Shannon Hamilton in which Hamilton tells
Brody to forget Renee. There's a rant for mister Savenning,
which is a result of Ts letting it slip that
he intended to propose. The scene where Svenning meets with
Brody before he he has both Brody and Ts removed
has several restored lines. Ends with the more finger and
hand licking of the multi pretzels after the boys are
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removed gross and then a scene after Truth or Date
in which he mister Svenning, attempts to demand to have
ts and Brodie arrested. Instead he is the one who's arrested.
It turns out that since Svenning was the producer of
the show, he now faces multiple FCC fines for Brodie's antics,
and two more where Are They Now Ending sequence in
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which mister Spenning is shown at his job at the
network as a janitor along with the production assistant still
wearing the headset, and Shannon Hamilton is shown screaming after
his r ape in prison, a scene that shows he
did Tricia's flirting and having sex with la Floors in
order to distract him from catching chance on Bob. This
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explains the final segment in the where Are They Now
Ending sequence showing Lafor's kissing Tricia during the book sign.
So that was all a lot of the stuff that was.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
So going back to Julie Dwyer though, what they ended
up doing obviously was the dad was mad. I think it.
I didn't even think it needed an explanation. A dad
being mad at the daughter's boyfriend you can just be
mad just because.
Speaker 1 (31:14):
You can always your daughter.
Speaker 2 (31:16):
Yeah, that's I mean, not saying that it's reasonably fair,
but it's understandably I.
Speaker 1 (31:20):
Mean, how many those stupid Southern people are like, oh,
I got the gun when my daughter's boyfriend comes over
the whole.
Speaker 2 (31:26):
Song, I'm just cleaning this gun. But hey, nobody's going
to get hurt. So Julie Dwyer. So they made it
so Julie Dwyer was going to be on truth her date.
She ended up having to do all the laps she
didn't have to, but said, you know, the camera had's
ten pounds and she died and that's why he's mad,
because you ru in the show and now the daughter
has to stay and do the show. However, this is
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not the first mention of Julie Dwyer in the universe.
She was mentioned in Clerks, So Dante and Randall talk
about how Julie Dwyer died in a pool at the y,
and then they actually filmed her funeral scene in the cartoon. Yeah,
and that's where Randall. I do remember watching that, Like
Randall like knocks over the casket or something and they
have to like run out.
Speaker 1 (32:07):
Of the he does.
Speaker 2 (32:08):
He does, yeah, but they leave, so Clerks basically takes
place like it's gotta be simultaneously with Malaretsen, because I'm
pretty sure in the cartoon they leave during a shift.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
They do it all happened that once?
Speaker 2 (32:22):
Yes, yeah, so and then she does get a shout
out in Clerk's too, and she does get a shout
out in Chasing Amy.
Speaker 1 (32:30):
Yeah, Which is.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
Why these movies are like so fun. All these just
little I love the connections. And sometimes a character plays
a different person, and sometimes they play the same person,
and sometimes they play a relative.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
Did you know that when Jason Lee got the role
of Brody Bruce, which is a nod to Jaws Chief Brody.
By the way, they are doing fiftieth anniversary stuff all
summer long at Martha's Vineyard for Jaws. Charlie told me
because him and his wife Stephanie are going to be
doing stuff, and I think they invited us. I don't
know if we're going to get Actually.
Speaker 2 (32:59):
They wrote an article COO for it for Attractions magazine.
Speaker 1 (33:04):
That was really cool.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
I would love to that'd be amazing. Go to Martha's Vineyard,
does see some job and they're doing some Striss are
doing like Jaws previews in the water. I want to
see Jaws in the water. That would be so cool.
Here's your Tim Stanley cameo. We haven't had it in
a while. Tim doesn't like Sharks because of Jaws.
Speaker 1 (33:22):
Tim, your stereotype. Anyways, you know that Jason. Anyways, back
to my Jason Lee fun fact. He was actually no
skateboarding and not acting.
Speaker 2 (33:30):
I know, that's so crazy. Crazy is his first movie role.
He's making out with Brenda Walsh.
Speaker 1 (33:35):
I know, well, who what about Walter fighting again? Who
is Walter fighting again?
Speaker 2 (33:39):
Oh my gosh. Walter Flanagan played fanboy. He purchased a
tiny puppy during filming, named it Brody. This is in
real life, and he actually let the dog run around
the closed mall and into the empty parking lot again
real dog. Actually on set, the dog ran so fast
that they said it looked like a hockey puck. And
Jay actually makes a comment, man, he was running quote
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faster than Walt Flanagan's dog. End quote. And that's where
that quote came from.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
Oh okay, well.
Speaker 2 (34:07):
I love that they do that. That's so fun. If
I ever write movies or comic books which I never
will do. I'm gonna add my own dream dreams. It's
not even a dream. It's not a talent I have,
so it's not a dream. Well, my dream is that
somebody I know who can write well will make me
one of their inside jokes. Well, that doesn't sound good,
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make heard of the inside joke. I don't want to
be the butt of the inside joke.
Speaker 1 (34:34):
Well, Jason Lee saw Clerks in the theater. He did
mal Rats as his first memory. When asked what he
thinks of when someone says Marats, he says nostalgia and
happy memories. He said working with Stanley was amazing and
everybody was starstruck, and then the studio wanted Marats to
be a smart Porky's no, sorry, sorry Porky. I don't
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like Porky's so shit track.
Speaker 2 (34:57):
I've never actually watched Porky's, but I watched a few
interviews with the people they were watch pist. So how
funny though, was it when TS is like, Hey, we
got to go to the airport. Our flight leaves in
an hour. What's that like?
Speaker 1 (35:11):
Oh, to be fair, we got to the Fort Lauderdale
Airport and changed our flight from a later flight to
an earlier flight and we were about an hour and
a half. Grantcha got there.
Speaker 2 (35:23):
He was at her house. Put like saying, where's your luggage?
Our flight leaves in an hour. Oh well, and you
know their tickets are not on their phone.
Speaker 1 (35:36):
They they had to get real printed ticket. We the
Richmond Airport, you could basically show up an hour before.
Speaker 2 (35:43):
To what I will say though, is they probably did
not lose money on Universal because they probably were planning
to buy the tickets when they got there.
Speaker 1 (35:51):
Oh, without a doubt. Yeah, no, without a doubt, which
is another crazy. There was no TSA at that point either,
which is also crazy to me.
Speaker 2 (35:59):
So there's a couple other things I want to mention
before we run things up. Yes, one, I love that
when Jay's did I mention this before? When Jay's doing
his old berserker rage? Is like, should I call you logan?
Speaker 1 (36:11):
You mentioned that in the Prix before we started.
Speaker 2 (36:14):
Recording, so because of my shirt. So since then, though,
Jason Muses actually had a daughter and named.
Speaker 1 (36:19):
Her logan, you have a logan, which we told him
in Salt Lake City.
Speaker 2 (36:24):
I know, I know, but I didn't I would not care.
Speaker 1 (36:27):
Less though, at least Brian loves.
Speaker 3 (36:31):
Us, but yeah, I also love the conversation that Brodie
was having a ts about Lois being able to carry
Clark's baby, and that ts or Brodie was adamant that
she would not be able to because a single load
would kill her.
Speaker 2 (36:46):
And the one of the reasons I think that's so funny,
other than the absolute ridiculousness of it, is also like
how much that could actually be fact and how much
they have actually explored that in things since no legit.
But the most un realistic thing about Small though, it
was the fact that like Tom Willing was like a
twenty year old version, but it was because he was
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scared to have sex, like he ended up sleeping with
Lana when Lana had that bout of like having superpowers,
because that was a I never have been.
Speaker 1 (37:17):
A great Superman day article for today was Superman Day out.
Speaker 2 (37:20):
Okay, can we also you know, we have Superman on
Lois now, where like, yes, she was able to carry them,
but the kids didn't get power. Alienator just a normal
guy at the end of the day, just but they
had to go to the Fortress of Solitude when she
was pregnant, So you have things him all right. My
last comment is when the fifteen year old Trish says
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girls want romance, not Mister Toad's wild Ride, and Brody says,
everyone wants Mister Toad's wild Ride.
Speaker 1 (37:50):
No, nobody does, just like nobody wants freaking. It's a
small world.
Speaker 2 (37:55):
Everybody wants Mister Toad's wild Ride. It's an amazing ride,
and we don't have it in Disney World anymore. It's
only in Disneyland.
Speaker 1 (38:01):
Guess what That ride is only better because.
Speaker 2 (38:05):
I judge, and you go to hell and there's a
bar inside that not when you can access. I agree
with Brodie. I thought I thought everybody I would rather
take me to Disneyland to go on mister Toes wild Ride.
That would be romantic.
Speaker 1 (38:21):
What yeah, all right, okay, all right on the same page.
Speaker 2 (38:28):
There our mister wild Ride winning the Peace.
Speaker 1 (38:31):
I would be like wild Ride.
Speaker 2 (38:37):
I mean, that's that's way better than or that is romance.
If you took me to Disney he was like if
he said tomorrow, like, hey, we're going to Disneyland, just
you and I and we're going to Amore.
Speaker 1 (38:47):
I just want to think he was in Disney.
Speaker 2 (38:49):
But if he was being serious, that's fair.
Speaker 1 (38:52):
That is completely fair Listen, Okay, I I can get it.
I can get behind that. I guess my idea of
a romantic time was taking another Disney cruise so I
can watch Hercules on the Destiny. I'm obsessed. I have
a fixation and is that. But nonetheless, one last.
Speaker 2 (39:10):
Thing what I got which I didn't get past times
when I watched it, they said there's a weakness in
the stage like the Death Star.
Speaker 1 (39:16):
They did. They did I Love Again, Kevin Smith.
Speaker 2 (39:20):
It went from being Cass d L to Captain America.
I understand that reference.
Speaker 1 (39:26):
I'm proud of you because years ago you would not
have gotten Star Wars, which reminds me of Star Wars
Month is coming up on Monday. We are in fact
dropping our Daredevil Born Again season one wrap up with
Andrew Hewitt, who is a mental health professional. We talk
about some of that aspect and then we go into
our thoughts on Daredevil. Wednesday, Tyrol Cannon joins the show
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once more, and then the following week Manol Thunderbolts and
then we go to Star Wars Month. Speaking of Star Wars,
that's what I was building up to, I know.
Speaker 2 (39:58):
And yeah, dude, lots of underwall from lightning. Lightning leads
to space.
Speaker 1 (40:03):
Orry, very very fighting.
Speaker 2 (40:06):
Palpatine upsode.
Speaker 1 (40:11):
Oh we should I haven't seen Wayne's World in the
hot minute either. We will have to do that. On
the twenty seventh, we are doing a Patreon movie night
with the Beaster Bunny. I think it's called Yes Be
Ready to Movie. I'm so in the bag for this stuff, man,
I cannot wait. Make sure screen but Willy Well, I
haven't been able to find that one out there yet.
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It's it was in theaters because I still get hit
up their cast and crew and try to get David
Thornton Howard on the show. But make sure you go
ahead and like, subscribe, share, follow to all of Hopskei
news content that's you can find us. Laura and I
are going to be here. We're back. We got Star
Wars Month, which is one of our favorite months to
come up. She said, I can pick anything for the
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final Star Wars Month topic, So if you've got any ideas,
let me know. Otherwise we're just gonna talk about how
hot Padme is and Attack of the Clones and how
that was my second sexual.
Speaker 2 (41:06):
H She's in't where the heart is. She's really cute.
Speaker 1 (41:08):
No one cares black Swan. Anyways, this this will go
down perfect from all rats.
Speaker 2 (41:16):
Uh do you watch black Swan?
Speaker 1 (41:19):
I bet he did.
Speaker 2 (41:20):
We need to do a Supernatural episode soon.
Speaker 1 (41:22):
We do, we do. We are going to be getting
back on our Supernatural train. I'm sorry we've We've just
had so much going on between vacations and a lot
of Marvel DC content coming out, So we will get
back on our Supernatural train. Do not fear because I
know a lot of people probably came here from Mega
Con from our Supernatural panels, so I apologize. I'm sorry.
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I didn't have to be born. It's my fault. Nobody
has to be born here. But yes, thank you guys
for hanging out with us. We will see you guys
next week. Snooger
Snoochy Bouchi's my friends, and welcome back to another episode
of Hopskeeek News, where today we are celebrating mal Rats
in honor of Easter. Who doesn't want to punch an
Easter Bunny? Lauren definitely does, as she let Brian o'holleran
our very good friend Brian o'hallaran at that aka suitor
number three. No from mal Rats. We are talking about Malrats.
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It turns thirty this year. Yes, the nineteen ninety five
film debut in October of nineteen ninety five, Kevin Smith's
second film, and it was actually the first one in color.
So we will die into that in just a second.
No news, no notes, no fluff. We're gonna get into it.
But first things first, search Hops geek News on any
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slash hopskeeek News if you want to support the show
social media's you can find us. My beer of the
week one of like the only non Treehouse beers I
have right now. It's a Pacific Mischief by Tripping Animals,
which I did get to go to their Oakland Avenue.
I believe it was called a location in Fort Lauderdale, Florida.
I didn't get this from there, though, I just happened
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to have it. Funny enough. I love this movie. We'll
talk about it in a second, Lauren, I know, oh god,
I okay. Your thing says that kid is back on
the escalator again. And I need to tell a quick
story because while we were on the Disney cruise, Carrie
and I you know us, we don't mind kids. We
got kids, right, but we were in the eighteen plus
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area and there were kids that kept coming in the
so I was like, Carrie, I feel as though I
am in mall rats and I was like, that kid
is back on the escalator again. Because I was like,
the kid is back in the pool again, and we
were so like, get the kids out of here.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
We're I have to walk through that area with my
kids because sometimes you like you can walk through. Yeah,
I tell my kids, I'm like, you don't talk with anybody.
You just walked directly through there.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
There were kids trying to get in the pool that
they had. Yes, they like they kicked him out, like
it was like they did. But initially there was so
much going on. When we first got on the boat.
We went right to the pool because you can't go
to your room. That I was basically carried. That kid
is back in the pool again, And God, I love
this movie. What are you drinking? First and foremost before
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we dive into this movie.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
Funny enough, I'm drinking a treouse. I do have an
amasive species on deck that I had more appropriate for this.
So once I finished this because we bolty recorded tonight
and I'm we did drinker and so I am almost
done with this, not really mean this is I'll let
you know what happened the next one. It's going to
be relevant.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
Reason one man all right, three and one dumped it.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
In my Vader glass though, because Kevin Smith or Silent
Bob is.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
Trying to do the first I forgot my Roosevelt's Jane
and Silent Bob shirt. I'm just not repping the brand tonight.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
I I sweached to Wolverine because Jade does a whole
scene about berserk greage.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
You did the wardrobe changes usually I'm the wardrobe change
one you did. I'm really proud of you. Blacken. We
didn't record for like a week and a half, two weeks,
and this is what happens. But this film stars Jeremy London,
who actually fun fact, in Pensacon twenty fifteen, Carrie bumped
into why him and his wife were in this crowded
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We were in this crowded room meeting the Black Power
Ranger and him and his wife were walking. They're pushing
the stroller with their infant, Carrie worth six feet plus
both of us, and it was a very crowded room.
She bumped into the stroller. His wife was super chill.
Jeremy London hated.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
Carrie in any of the other movies, like everybody else heard.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
He's an a hole, you know. But he does have
a brother.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
I can't imagine that Kevin Smith would continue to work
with somebody who was an a hole.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
Very true. Uh. This also stars Jason Lee, the late
Shannon Doherty, Ben Affleck, the late Stan Lee obviously, Kevin
Smith and Jason mus are in this. Michael Rooker is
in this aka Mary Poppins, Joey, Lauren Adams, and many more.
This is written and directed by the one and only
Kevin Smith. This is actually the first Kevin Smith film
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that I personally ever watched. When I was a teenager,
we would get into my friend's garage and this was
the movie that was our entire personality. When I was
fourteen years old, we quoted it fly fat ass Fly.
My other friend coincidentally named Matt. He would walk around
you know, Snoogan's snoochy bouchies. That was his thing, and
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we just lived for this movie. The chocolate covered pretzels
with Michael Booker. This, this whole movie is nothing short
of fantastic. So before we get into the plot, when
did you first watch this movie? Because, like I said,
I was, But do we lad?
Speaker 2 (05:28):
So it's funny you actually met my friend Brandy this weekend.
I did for the very first time. So Brandy and
I are the ones who watched all these together. So
I watched Clerks first. So we were basically we were
best friends dating best friends in high school, and they
forced us to watch Clerks and Nick her oh no,
the blunt Man and Chronic poster on the wall, and
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we didn't know who that was. And so when Ben
and Nick made us watch this Clerks and I've said
this on the podcast before, we're like, why the creen
making us watch a black and white movie, and they're like, no, no, no,
It's gonna get better. D da dah. So then we
we watched all of them, Mall Rats and Chasing Amy,
and by the time Jay and Silent Bob strike Back
came out, we had broken up with them, but we
went to the movie together and saw Jay and Silent
pub But mal Rats was always like our favorite because
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it was the most I guess relevant to us. You know,
we were yeah girls in the late nineties early two
thousands who as soon as we got our paycheck because
we worked together at the daycare and we would play
in syncs, just got paid and we would go to
the mall a lot of money. So yeah, we would,
you know, you would hang out at the mall and
people would meet you at the mall and you would
do dumb crap at the mall.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
Let me go to the mall.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
Oh, my god. Brielle's watching How I Met Your Mother
and she time, oh, it was the Robin Sparkles episode
and it's also when they established the slap that is
the first Those are the same episode, and so when
it started, I looked at Brielle.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
And like, oh, it was Barney thought she was doing
porn and it was yes.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
But Brielle has heard the Let's Go to the Mall
song because it's on Just Dance for We and she's
heard us sing it. So then when it came come on,
I'm like kind of looking at her and she's like,
this is really from this So yeah, so that was fun,
but it is. But yeah, so Mall rats we both
love Mallratz right away. But what's really funny is the
first time I watched it, I knew nothing about Marvel.
(07:13):
I knew nothing about Star Wars. The only Star Wars
I'd watched was a New Hope that my mom forced
me to watch when I was thirteen. I had never
seen like X Manhattan come out. I knew nothing. Sure,
I probably knew who Spider Man was, and like, I mean,
I knew Superman and Batman because.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
Right the basics. I mean, but once that everybody kind
of knows.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
Yeah, there was no mainstream Marvel movies. I was not
watching cartoons and so rewatching it later in life. I mean,
I've rewatched it marats a bunch of times, but like,
I get so much more more of the jokes, and
it's so cool and like the stan Lee thing. And
then I remember when you know, when Stanley's reading the
script and Captain Marvel. I thought that was so cool.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
Oh, such a good callback to Oh my god, dude,
I totally forgot that he did that part. I knew
he was in the movie obviously, but I forgot that
he was reading this script because, uh, miss Marvel or
Captain Marvel' excuse me takes place at the same Oh dude.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
Yeah. So when we actually asked Brian and Jeff that
when we first met them in Utah, how did it
feel to know that your characters exist in the MCU, Like,
that's so cool because yeah, Mall Rats, I mean Brian
o'holland was in Mall Rats. But I mean, if exist,
there's callbacks to clerks, which there is exists. But yeah,
well that was actually a trivia question, a bonus trivia question,
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which is how I won Marvel Trivia at Dead Words
that one day because I bet at all right on
the bonus question, and that was question, oh man going
to be the bonus question too. I was like, I
bet it's going to be Captain.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
Marvel the answers ahead of time. Look at that.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
I don't know. It came to me, well, Jedi mind
or maya spider.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
Sense the This movie is actually considered a flop. So
Kevin Smith did Clerk it was a hit. This movie
was a flop. The budget was six point one million,
and it only grossed two point one million dollars four
hundred thousand dollars on its Friday opening on eight hundred screens,
one point two million on its opening weekend, and then
only two million, one hundred and twenty two thousand, five
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hundred and sixty one dollars, so it had I don't
understand how this movie is a flop because I like
this movie more than Clerks. I'll say it. I love Clerks.
I personally think mal Rats was a superior film for
various other reasons. This movie is fun. If this movie
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came out today, people would have fun with it.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
I think I think I've always enjoyed Maul Rats more,
but like having gone back and watched Clerks older, I
feel like Clerics is more clever. I think is more fun.
But like some of the jokes in Clerics is just.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
Like thirty seven in a row, right, like who comes.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
Up with this? Like it was? It was, but there
was some really brilliant Peter Dick and joke funny.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
Nothing is better than Dogma by Kevin In my opinion,
Dogma is the superior Kevin Smith film of them all.
It's not Tusk.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
Dogma's also though, I feel like his first movie that
was just I mean, it's riddled with stars. I mean
it is Alan Rickman, Chris Rock, like I heard.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
I don't know if that's true.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
Oh my gosh. Oh I should have said, oh my god,
because that would have made sense. Well, and was it Sama.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
Hayak like, yeah, that's right, she was, Yes.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
But I don't know if this is true. We do
need to do a proper episode on Dogma at some point,
and we will.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
Well, it's coming back to theaters in June, I believe,
because he has the rights back, so we will do
a proper one. Yes, he's gonna take on the road.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
We are, But I believe that Kevin Smith was always
very strict on stick to the script, and then when
you cast Chris Rock, I guess it.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
Was a little Chris Rock's not going to go.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
Afle and Matt Damon. You probably said them when I
was saying people.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
No, I didn't say them, but you're right. So diving
into the plot here spoilers.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
Is Loki who plays Loki later?
Speaker 1 (11:07):
Okay, yes, if you've never seen mal Rats and you're here,
I'm sorry, but it's also thirty years old, so.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
You can rent it on Amazon right now. I actually
did a free trial of Filo and I watched it
and then I immediately canceled it because Filo is like
twenty dollars.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
A month with what the hell was Filo?
Speaker 2 (11:24):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
I can't keep up, man, Oh my god, the good
old days of going to Blockbuster are gone. So Ts
is ready to propose to his girlfriend Brandy played by
Shannon Doherty in Florida. Wait, Brandy's not sure. Oh it's
it's yes. No, sorry, yes, yes, I don't know. Evan
Smith's girlfriend at the time, who is God blessed Joey
(11:49):
Lauren Adams.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
That's not Adams either.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
Are you sure I'm sure.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
I bet my oldest on it, my kids on it.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
Oh my gosh, who invited me to this? Because Claire
for Lannie is Brandy.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
Jesus, I didn't know her name.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
Yes, I am terribly sorry.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
She okay, she's a fine girl.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
She is okay. Sorry, that's because, yes, Claire for Lonnie
plays Brandy. I will get my character straight, I promise you,
Geez Louise, Brandy is the one Brandy. No, Joey Lauren
Adams was the one that was underage and Ben Affleck
kept going after.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
No, Joey Lauren Adams is the one who's getting dressed
in Kevin Smith side of the bob keeps crashing into
the dressing room.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
Oh my god, she wasn't old. The underage girl is
the goth girl. I'm sorry, yes, yes, yes, I'm sorry.
You're right, all right, Joey Lauren Adams is Gwen. I'm sorry.
Renee Humphrey, I believe is who I'm talking about. Uh.
I think she played Tricia. That might be her.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
Tricia is the one who's doing the sex stuff, the
underaged girl.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
Yes, yes, that's the one about Anyways, anyways, good sweet baby, Jesus. Anyways,
stick to the this is why I read the prompter.
Now he's planning on proposing to Brandy and Florida Universal
as soon as Jaws pops out, but instead he learns
after telling somebody that the camera adds ten pounds, said
person did so many lasts at the pool until an
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embolism explodes and she dies. Well, she was supposed to
be in call in college dating show for Ts's girlfriend's dad,
so the girlfriend has to stand in Brandy Rose in
suitor number one, Suit number two, ser number three. They
fight and break up. Meanwhile, Brody gets dumped by his
girlfriend for essentially being a slacker burnout not going anywhere.
(13:41):
That one is Shannon Doherty, So the two newly dumped
guys head to the mall because the mall used to
be a place where people would hang out at. Believe
it or not, Yes, the dating show is getting set up.
Jay and Silent Bob try to stop it. Shannon a
d bag, beats up Brody, but he yes, he tells
Jay and sid on Bob it was actually the Easter Bunny,
(14:03):
so they beat up the Easter Bunny. Much like Lauren
tried to do a galaxy con, Richmond.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
Didn't try to do it. I was just like, if
you're celebrating Easter, this might be a fun thing to do. Yes,
but Brian o'holler and said, do not be funny, so
we're not doing that.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
I love Brian so much, man, I love him. So
Brody and his girlfriend have sex in an elevator. However,
they stay broken up. Stan Lee is at a comic
book shop and Brody cannot get his comics. So then
Brody teaches Ts the stink palm with chocolate covered pretzels.
At the request of Ts, Stanley gives a very lovely
(14:38):
superhero love speech to Brody. This is when TS and
Brodie joined the Dating show alongside Gil Hicks, who is
Brian o'holleran our friend, and Ts proposes to Brandy. She
says yes as Brody professes love to Renee sonent Bob.
This is the force to get the videotape, a very
inappropriate videotape at that one. That is a button man
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with a fifteen year.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
Old, which is hot, Ben Affleck and.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
Tricia being our fifteen year old. We end with a
very nineties ending of where they end up. TS and
Brandy got married. Rest in peace to the Jaws ride.
I did get to do the cool universal Hollywood Jaws thing.
That was fun. Brody gets to host the Tonight Show
with Renee as bandleader. Wilhelm eventually saw the it's not
(15:27):
it's a schooner, a schooner, a sellboat, idiot. No, that's
what I'm saying as a kid, you idiot. It's not
a sell boat. It's a schooner. And the kids like
a sailboat. It's a schooner, you idiot, but isn't really great.
And then we end with Jay and Silent Bob with
Suzanne who later meet in Jay and Silent Bob strike
(15:50):
back six years later. This is a tale I forgot
that that was I forgot as well. I did too,
And this is a movie all about being young, dumb,
in love and at a mall, which if you are
in Massachusetts, the Burlington Mall is about the only mall
that I've ever seen that's still hot that place.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
So there's a lot of hot malls still in Orlando
that at malls are always slammed, Millennium malls always slammed,
Florida malls always slammed. But then when you go to
the regular malls, they're not needle malls like trying to
be like they have like a gym and a place
where kids can play in their brewery just closed, but
they have a movie theater and like a paint and
drink kind of thing. So but I think in Orlando
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over in you your tourist hown because like Florida mall
has an American girls store in the M and M store,
But like you're not seeing local high school kids hang
out there.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
No no high school kid hangs out the mall anymore.
We used to get dropped off by my friend Matt.
His mom would take us. We would find rides to
the mall. We would hang out, be degenerates, you know,
meet up with girls and some cases, yeah I'm.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
Saying shopping at Abercrombie.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
See we would go to Newburry girls.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
Who wore Abercrombie and Fitch.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
Did your mall? Okay, that's Oh the lunch date from
Invasive Species. I had that one. It's wicked good. I
love that kid.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
So yes, I picked this one because it's date because
it's a dating show and finished or not.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
Oh my god, so he's I love that Brody was
you know, he's on the plane and they think they're
going to crash, so he just pulls it out and
he just starts jacketing, and all of a sudden the
plane stable asses And I love Brian's character. She goes, well,
did he finish or what? Jesus christ Man, there's just
some things you don't talk about.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
After he just told that whole story.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
Oh it's so good this movie is. I love it.
I love it.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
Even the opener is so nineties.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
It is in you know, Michael Rooker plays Brandy's dad.
He's the guy in charge. He doesn't like tes.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
I looked up he was like forty because I'm like,
he's not old enough to have a high schooler. And
he's like forty one.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
He does look old, but not old, if that makes sense.
This movie.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
This movie's thirty years old. And you look at him today.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
I was, he's like seventy today. Really hold on, let me.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
Look it up. I looked it up before. I mean,
I mean, I never really wanted I have a college
age kid.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
Fair fair I mean, but yeah, I went to Newberry
Comics all the time. That would you know? My mall
had a comic book shop, which Newberry Comics is out there.
He said, wow, so he was.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
He was forty when this movie came out, actually, but
he had well, no, they were in college, so, I
mean they were graduating.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
They were going into college at that point.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
Right, So he had a kid at twenty one twenty two,
So that's not crazy. But it's just so funny because
I'm looking at him in this and it's like I
knew him. I didn't realize that was him when I
knew him as moral.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
Well obviously growing up, yeah, oh yeah, I forgot all
about that. That's why he wasn't the Walking Dead.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
Yes, so knowing him as moral and then it was like,
oh shit, I didn't realize that was the guy from
All Rats and then obviously YANDU. So he still looks.
I don't know. I guess maybe the older I aged very.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
I don't know that's what I really had. I don't
feel his aged too much.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
Maybe it's because he's Mary Poppins, and Mary Poppins is Mary.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
Poppins, y'all. Well. I mean he even has good moments
in this film too. The grossest, obviously is the stink
Palm with the pretzels, where.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
All he's got those pretzels a little too hard.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
Oh he really is a little bag of pretzels and
their chocolate covered and they're melted, and he's licking his fingers.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
In Oh god, it was so gross.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
Yeah, that tiny bag holding his puke. No, there's no way, dude,
not a chance. Oh god, what were what were suing me?
Your favorite moments of this film?
Speaker 2 (19:42):
It's so hard because it's like what I remember the
first time I watched it, which was yeah, you know,
twenty five years ago, versus rewatching it because I rewatched it.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
I've seen it. Yeah, it's one of those movies that
it's almost a comfort movie to me. I wish I owned.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
Yeah. Yeah, the only one I own is Dance on
Bob strick Back.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
Oh wow.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
Yeah, I have that one DVD double DVD because I
have the extras too. So this movie definitely makes me
feel nostalgic in many ways, like yeah, flannel around the waist,
the baby, oh yes. Like looking at some of the outfits,
I'm like, this is stuff I wore. You know, they're
older than me, but they're not that much older than me.
(20:24):
Like I was still in high school in the nineties.
Uh using the R word oh my gosh, oh age. Well,
but it was standard usage back then.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
Okay, so this is where I guess we're going to
get canceled. Because the R word and then the F
word that's three letters for gay people was a big
thing in Boston. But it never meant you were slurring
gay people. It's was just something you called people when
you're mad at them. And so seeing some of those
things back then and how they use those words, and
(20:57):
then now it's like, oh god, we.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
Realized why that was a bad comparison, and I think
that's gross. I don't think that's getting canceled. Yeah, we
used to say gay like that was like a common
and that was calling something stupid. I mean I had
I mean I grew up in South Florida. I didn't
know that being gay was like frowned upon by so
many people until I was older, because nobody gave a crap.
(21:22):
But in like my yeah right, it wasn't until I
was older and I was actually in law school, and
it was a law school that attracted people from all
over the country, some of them international, And it was
a class about sexual identity and sexual orientation and in
the law and all this stuff and gender studies and whatnot.
It's really great class small class very much so, one
of those classes where you get to interact and discuss,
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which was always my favorite kind of you know, class,
because I feel like that's really when you learn the most,
when you're listening to other people's experiences and comparing it
to the law and understanding things right where I heard
stories from gay people who did not grow up in
South Florida, and I was shocked. I had no idea.
Obviously now I'm very much so aware, but it was
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like it makes you rethink, like like I don't even
like using the B word, saying bitch because it's such
a derogatory term focused on women.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
And uh, yeah, I guess I never really thought about
that way.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
Well, anyway, Shannon already saying, you know, calls him a forward,
and I was like, oh, that's yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
And then I mean, I guess in that moment.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
The script didn't do anything wrong.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
In the moment, I wonder if Ben Affleck's character went
on to become a politician since he was into fifteen
year olds. That's probably about the only thing that aged didn't.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
He go to jail. He went to jail because he
kept saying he wanted to do stuff to that girl.
In an uncomfortable position like the back of a volkswagon.
And obviously that's not what he meant. So when he
got arrested, they're like, oh, have fun. I heard guys
in jail like to do it in an uncomfortable spot.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
Oh my god, it was. But I also Jay and
Silent Bob. This was kind of your real first introduction
to them. And Silent Bob, well, I would say, well,
this was mine because obviously I watched this movie first
and I loved it. You know, they would talk about
Star Wars and then there was the whole use the
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Force and that's when the videotape got bumped and Jay's like,
whoa in fun fact? You know this was since it
was the second movie. I know this is in our
fun facts. Despite Jason Muse having played Jay and Clerks,
he actually had the audition because the studio didn't want him.
Universal didn't want him. They wanted Seth Green instead. However,
Kevin fought for him. His audition obviously went well because
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he was Jay Muse, like.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
Right, the characters literally based off of him. But the
studio Jason mus and Jason Muse.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
That's what's always silly to me is the auditioning and
it's just ridiculous. But the studio is not going to
pay for his airfare hotel, which is also funny in
its own right. But while shopping, Renee Moser, who is
Shannon Doherty, is seen wearing at LEAs three different outfits.
Dirty had a clause in her contract at the time
that stated she could keep everything her character wore, so
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she came up with the plan that her character would
wear everything that she bought. Genius personally, I think that's hilarious.
That is amazing. Yes, I think it's genius as well.
What other fun facts do we have?
Speaker 2 (24:21):
So Stanley is in Captain Marvel. We already talked about that,
so universe exists in MCU. So while filming exteriors of them,
all production assistants would actually stick paper over some of
the New Jersey license plates because they weren't in Jersey. However, occasionally,
because they were in Minnesota, these mall customers with their
Minnesota license plates would drive away with the paper still attached.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
To Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
If you've seen the movie just under an hour, you
actually see ts like pick up a hat and he
tries it on and it's the Clerk's hat. So it's
a cute little.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
Yeah, that's fun.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
Yeah, there's a few nods.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
I know.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
We've done a couple Kevin Smith.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
We've done some Kevin Smith episodes. Yeah, but we never
dove into specific films. It's always been like, yeah, ever
arching in its own right.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
We may need to do some of the mathod.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
Well, we missed. This is also Clerk's thirtieth. No. Last
year was the Clerk's thirtieth. We missed that one.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
Stupid idiots.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
We're doing Dogma in Joe.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
Didn't we do Clerks?
Speaker 1 (25:23):
I think we did, But we're doing Dogma in June.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
Yeah, I think we did. I think we did Clerks.
I remember rewatching it, or maybe I just rewatched it
after you. Yeah. Anyways, uh, Gil Hicks is actually the
cousin of Dante Hicks, who's from Clerk's He's also a
reporter named Grant Hicks. And other Kevin Smith movies and
if you love all these different versions of Brian o' holler,
and there's actually a comic book called Quick Stops and
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one of us they actually go to a Hicks family
reunion and you give me all the Hicks and it's
it's funny and adorable.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
Those are those are good ones, you know, and Ben
aff like this is early on in his career. Actually,
you know, Matt and Ben were Matt and Ben. Jeez.
Kevin and Ben were friends for a while. But the
rumor is that Jennifer Garner didn't like Kevin for his immaturity,
so that's why they didn't talk for a period of time.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
She seems pretty chill.
Speaker 1 (26:15):
There might be some truth to that. But he did
come back, and jan sound bob back, so we'll see.
I don't know. Anyways, Ben Affleck did not love the
idea of being another dick after being one and dazed
and confused. He was actually worried he would get typecasted
as a dick. Well, this movie instead predicted him becoming Batman,
with a comic book cover of him as butt Man.
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Funny enough, and he did become Batman.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
So I was like Martha, Oh God.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
In the original version of the film, Ts accidentally shot
the Governor of New Jersey at a function hosted by
mister sus Venning, which helped explain Brandy's father hatred of
Ts throughout the film because that was a cartoon. In between,
there was a cartoon that went into all of this.
I have it on Plex. Actually funny.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
Yeah, I've watched some of them, but it was like
a million years ago.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
Yeah yeah, it really was. Preview audiences actually didn't love this,
so it was taken out. However, the Governor's Ball is
still mentioned. It's also because there was a thirty minutes
of extended cuts that were added into this film, and
there's a lot of different stuff that the audiences didn't
like that they took out.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
But they do. So I had read that fun fact,
and then when I was rewatching the movie, like there's
a scene where they're like talking to yan Do and
they're like, this better than not end up like the Governor's.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
Ball, And I was like, oh yeah, So in the
extended cut, the alternate opening scene is when the Governor's
Ball happens. Now the Governor in New Jersey is played
by Elizabeth Ashley, and the scene Ts is dressed as
a colonial musketeer. It accidentally gets his musket tangled up
in Brandy's hair, accidentally shoots the Governor on the roof
of a school, which ends up costing misters venting his
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reputation as well as the Big pay raise. This explains
the reason why s Venning shows an intense dislike for
Ts and why Brandy is so intent on breaking up
with him. The scene also makes no mention of Julie
Dwyer's death, as the theatric gold cut did. That cut
subplot was referenced in the final cut of the movie
where the TV execs mentioned to Seventning that they do
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not want to repeat of the Governor's Ball. Now. Some
other things where multiple lines throughout the movie are restored
related to Ts's attempt assassination on the governor. Many of
these have wildly different reasons for having Ts in the news,
such as Shannon's claim that he had tried to kidnap
the President's daughter. Now an extended sequence at Berdie's house
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where Ts is hounded by the media as a result
of his action at the Governor's Ball, including several TV
movie offers. There were scenes where Ts makes it known
to Brandy he proposed to marry her. Brody and Ts
arrive outside of the Vending's home so Ts can try
and reconcile during the confusion thanks to a news crew
chasing Ts, then interviewing Brody, who implies that mister Savenning
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and Brandy take part in a Santanic ritual. The news
records footage of Sevenning doing martial arts in a bath towel,
and so some of that, Yeah, some of the footage
was re edited into the theatrical release. Funny enough, there
was a naked There was actually a shot that shows
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the quick stop from Clerk's. There was a subplot of
Brody showing intentions of wanting to be on TV, which
explains his surprised look during his appearance on Truth or Date.
There's a scene with Miss Havana where she has several
restored lines. There is an arrest scene in which Lafores
wanted to put Brody and Ts into jail for an
extended period of time rather than overnight. There's a fight
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scene between Brody and Shannon Hamilton in which Hamilton tells
Brody to forget Renee. There's a rant for mister Savenning,
which is a result of Ts letting it slip that
he intended to propose. The scene where Svenning meets with
Brody before he he has both Brody and Ts removed
has several restored lines. Ends with the more finger and
hand licking of the multi pretzels after the boys are
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removed gross and then a scene after Truth or Date
in which he mister Svenning, attempts to demand to have
ts and Brodie arrested. Instead he is the one who's arrested.
It turns out that since Svenning was the producer of
the show, he now faces multiple FCC fines for Brodie's antics,
and two more where Are They Now Ending sequence in
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which mister Spenning is shown at his job at the
network as a janitor along with the production assistant still
wearing the headset, and Shannon Hamilton is shown screaming after
his r ape in prison, a scene that shows he
did Tricia's flirting and having sex with la Floors in
order to distract him from catching chance on Bob. This
(30:52):
explains the final segment in the where Are They Now
Ending sequence showing Lafor's kissing Tricia during the book sign.
So that was all a lot of the stuff that was.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
So going back to Julie Dwyer though, what they ended
up doing obviously was the dad was mad. I think it.
I didn't even think it needed an explanation. A dad
being mad at the daughter's boyfriend you can just be
mad just because.
Speaker 1 (31:14):
You can always your daughter.
Speaker 2 (31:16):
Yeah, that's I mean, not saying that it's reasonably fair,
but it's understandably I.
Speaker 1 (31:20):
Mean, how many those stupid Southern people are like, oh,
I got the gun when my daughter's boyfriend comes over
the whole.
Speaker 2 (31:26):
Song, I'm just cleaning this gun. But hey, nobody's going
to get hurt. So Julie Dwyer. So they made it
so Julie Dwyer was going to be on truth her date.
She ended up having to do all the laps she
didn't have to, but said, you know, the camera had's
ten pounds and she died and that's why he's mad,
because you ru in the show and now the daughter
has to stay and do the show. However, this is
(31:47):
not the first mention of Julie Dwyer in the universe.
She was mentioned in Clerks, So Dante and Randall talk
about how Julie Dwyer died in a pool at the y,
and then they actually filmed her funeral scene in the cartoon. Yeah,
and that's where Randall. I do remember watching that, Like
Randall like knocks over the casket or something and they
have to like run out.
Speaker 1 (32:07):
Of the he does.
Speaker 2 (32:08):
He does, yeah, but they leave, so Clerks basically takes
place like it's gotta be simultaneously with Malaretsen, because I'm
pretty sure in the cartoon they leave during a shift.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
They do it all happened that once?
Speaker 2 (32:22):
Yes, yeah, so and then she does get a shout
out in Clerk's too, and she does get a shout
out in Chasing Amy.
Speaker 1 (32:30):
Yeah, Which is.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
Why these movies are like so fun. All these just
little I love the connections. And sometimes a character plays
a different person, and sometimes they play the same person,
and sometimes they play a relative.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
Did you know that when Jason Lee got the role
of Brody Bruce, which is a nod to Jaws Chief Brody.
By the way, they are doing fiftieth anniversary stuff all
summer long at Martha's Vineyard for Jaws. Charlie told me
because him and his wife Stephanie are going to be
doing stuff, and I think they invited us. I don't
know if we're going to get Actually.
Speaker 2 (32:59):
They wrote an article COO for it for Attractions magazine.
Speaker 1 (33:04):
That was really cool.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
I would love to that'd be amazing. Go to Martha's Vineyard,
does see some job and they're doing some Striss are
doing like Jaws previews in the water. I want to
see Jaws in the water. That would be so cool.
Here's your Tim Stanley cameo. We haven't had it in
a while. Tim doesn't like Sharks because of Jaws.
Speaker 1 (33:22):
Tim, your stereotype. Anyways, you know that Jason. Anyways, back
to my Jason Lee fun fact. He was actually no
skateboarding and not acting.
Speaker 2 (33:30):
I know, that's so crazy. Crazy is his first movie role.
He's making out with Brenda Walsh.
Speaker 1 (33:35):
I know, well, who what about Walter fighting again? Who
is Walter fighting again?
Speaker 2 (33:39):
Oh my gosh. Walter Flanagan played fanboy. He purchased a
tiny puppy during filming, named it Brody. This is in
real life, and he actually let the dog run around
the closed mall and into the empty parking lot again
real dog. Actually on set, the dog ran so fast
that they said it looked like a hockey puck. And
Jay actually makes a comment, man, he was running quote
(34:01):
faster than Walt Flanagan's dog. End quote. And that's where
that quote came from.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
Oh okay, well.
Speaker 2 (34:07):
I love that they do that. That's so fun. If
I ever write movies or comic books which I never
will do. I'm gonna add my own dream dreams. It's
not even a dream. It's not a talent I have,
so it's not a dream. Well, my dream is that
somebody I know who can write well will make me
one of their inside jokes. Well, that doesn't sound good,
(34:28):
make heard of the inside joke. I don't want to
be the butt of the inside joke.
Speaker 1 (34:34):
Well, Jason Lee saw Clerks in the theater. He did
mal Rats as his first memory. When asked what he
thinks of when someone says Marats, he says nostalgia and
happy memories. He said working with Stanley was amazing and
everybody was starstruck, and then the studio wanted Marats to
be a smart Porky's no, sorry, sorry Porky. I don't
(34:55):
like Porky's so shit track.
Speaker 2 (34:57):
I've never actually watched Porky's, but I watched a few
interviews with the people they were watch pist. So how
funny though, was it when TS is like, Hey, we
got to go to the airport. Our flight leaves in
an hour. What's that like?
Speaker 1 (35:11):
Oh, to be fair, we got to the Fort Lauderdale
Airport and changed our flight from a later flight to
an earlier flight and we were about an hour and
a half. Grantcha got there.
Speaker 2 (35:23):
He was at her house. Put like saying, where's your luggage?
Our flight leaves in an hour. Oh well, and you
know their tickets are not on their phone.
Speaker 1 (35:36):
They they had to get real printed ticket. We the
Richmond Airport, you could basically show up an hour before.
Speaker 2 (35:43):
To what I will say though, is they probably did
not lose money on Universal because they probably were planning
to buy the tickets when they got there.
Speaker 1 (35:51):
Oh, without a doubt. Yeah, no, without a doubt, which
is another crazy. There was no TSA at that point either,
which is also crazy to me.
Speaker 2 (35:59):
So there's a couple other things I want to mention
before we run things up. Yes, one, I love that
when Jay's did I mention this before? When Jay's doing
his old berserker rage? Is like, should I call you logan?
Speaker 1 (36:11):
You mentioned that in the Prix before we started.
Speaker 2 (36:14):
Recording, so because of my shirt. So since then, though,
Jason Muses actually had a daughter and named.
Speaker 1 (36:19):
Her logan, you have a logan, which we told him
in Salt Lake City.
Speaker 2 (36:24):
I know, I know, but I didn't I would not care.
Speaker 1 (36:27):
Less though, at least Brian loves.
Speaker 3 (36:31):
Us, but yeah, I also love the conversation that Brodie
was having a ts about Lois being able to carry
Clark's baby, and that ts or Brodie was adamant that
she would not be able to because a single load
would kill her.
Speaker 2 (36:46):
And the one of the reasons I think that's so funny,
other than the absolute ridiculousness of it, is also like
how much that could actually be fact and how much
they have actually explored that in things since no legit.
But the most un realistic thing about Small though, it
was the fact that like Tom Willing was like a
twenty year old version, but it was because he was
(37:07):
scared to have sex, like he ended up sleeping with
Lana when Lana had that bout of like having superpowers,
because that was a I never have been.
Speaker 1 (37:17):
A great Superman day article for today was Superman Day out.
Speaker 2 (37:20):
Okay, can we also you know, we have Superman on
Lois now, where like, yes, she was able to carry them,
but the kids didn't get power. Alienator just a normal
guy at the end of the day, just but they
had to go to the Fortress of Solitude when she
was pregnant, So you have things him all right. My
last comment is when the fifteen year old Trish says
(37:42):
girls want romance, not Mister Toad's wild Ride, and Brody says,
everyone wants Mister Toad's wild Ride.
Speaker 1 (37:50):
No, nobody does, just like nobody wants freaking. It's a
small world.
Speaker 2 (37:55):
Everybody wants Mister Toad's wild Ride. It's an amazing ride,
and we don't have it in Disney World anymore. It's
only in Disneyland.
Speaker 1 (38:01):
Guess what That ride is only better because.
Speaker 2 (38:05):
I judge, and you go to hell and there's a
bar inside that not when you can access. I agree
with Brodie. I thought I thought everybody I would rather
take me to Disneyland to go on mister Toes wild Ride.
That would be romantic.
Speaker 1 (38:21):
What yeah, all right, okay, all right on the same page.
Speaker 2 (38:28):
There our mister wild Ride winning the Peace.
Speaker 1 (38:31):
I would be like wild Ride.
Speaker 2 (38:37):
I mean, that's that's way better than or that is romance.
If you took me to Disney he was like if
he said tomorrow, like, hey, we're going to Disneyland, just
you and I and we're going to Amore.
Speaker 1 (38:47):
I just want to think he was in Disney.
Speaker 2 (38:49):
But if he was being serious, that's fair.
Speaker 1 (38:52):
That is completely fair Listen, Okay, I I can get it.
I can get behind that. I guess my idea of
a romantic time was taking another Disney cruise so I
can watch Hercules on the Destiny. I'm obsessed. I have
a fixation and is that. But nonetheless, one last.
Speaker 2 (39:10):
Thing what I got which I didn't get past times
when I watched it, they said there's a weakness in
the stage like the Death Star.
Speaker 1 (39:16):
They did. They did I Love Again, Kevin Smith.
Speaker 2 (39:20):
It went from being Cass d L to Captain America.
I understand that reference.
Speaker 1 (39:26):
I'm proud of you because years ago you would not
have gotten Star Wars, which reminds me of Star Wars
Month is coming up on Monday. We are in fact
dropping our Daredevil Born Again season one wrap up with
Andrew Hewitt, who is a mental health professional. We talk
about some of that aspect and then we go into
our thoughts on Daredevil. Wednesday, Tyrol Cannon joins the show
(39:48):
once more, and then the following week Manol Thunderbolts and
then we go to Star Wars Month. Speaking of Star Wars,
that's what I was building up to, I know.
Speaker 2 (39:58):
And yeah, dude, lots of underwall from lightning. Lightning leads
to space.
Speaker 1 (40:03):
Orry, very very fighting.
Speaker 2 (40:06):
Palpatine upsode.
Speaker 1 (40:11):
Oh we should I haven't seen Wayne's World in the
hot minute either. We will have to do that. On
the twenty seventh, we are doing a Patreon movie night
with the Beaster Bunny. I think it's called Yes Be
Ready to Movie. I'm so in the bag for this stuff, man,
I cannot wait. Make sure screen but Willy Well, I
haven't been able to find that one out there yet.
(40:31):
It's it was in theaters because I still get hit
up their cast and crew and try to get David
Thornton Howard on the show. But make sure you go
ahead and like, subscribe, share, follow to all of Hopskei
news content that's you can find us. Laura and I
are going to be here. We're back. We got Star
Wars Month, which is one of our favorite months to
come up. She said, I can pick anything for the
(40:53):
final Star Wars Month topic, So if you've got any ideas,
let me know. Otherwise we're just gonna talk about how
hot Padme is and Attack of the Clones and how
that was my second sexual.
Speaker 2 (41:06):
H She's in't where the heart is. She's really cute.
Speaker 1 (41:08):
No one cares black Swan. Anyways, this this will go
down perfect from all rats.
Speaker 2 (41:16):
Uh do you watch black Swan?
Speaker 1 (41:19):
I bet he did.
Speaker 2 (41:20):
We need to do a Supernatural episode soon.
Speaker 1 (41:22):
We do, we do. We are going to be getting
back on our Supernatural train. I'm sorry we've We've just
had so much going on between vacations and a lot
of Marvel DC content coming out, So we will get
back on our Supernatural train. Do not fear because I
know a lot of people probably came here from Mega
Con from our Supernatural panels, so I apologize. I'm sorry.
(41:44):
I didn't have to be born. It's my fault. Nobody
has to be born here. But yes, thank you guys
for hanging out with us. We will see you guys
next week. Snooger
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