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Speaker 1 (00:27):
What up, everybody? Supernatural family, We are back. I know
few and far between. Lately we are just the worst,
but we are here to finish season eleven of Supernatural
with is episode seventeen through the finale of season eleven.
I am mat with me as always is Lauren and
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can add free episodes, earlier episodes, all of that good jazz.
But that's where we're at. Man, Come hang out with
us in discord. We got a Supernatural chain, one for
non spoilers and one for spoilers because there are some
people that haven't finished it yet. It took me a
couple of years. I'm a newbie. I don't think I'm
a newbie anymore. We've done a few Supernatural panels. I
like to think that I'm not so new. But anyways,
(01:12):
as you finish this up, we're drinking together forever. Actually
it's from Burial Brewing their collab with Bistol Brothers. It
is the collab.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
See if I would have confirmed that when you asked.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
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(01:46):
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Paul Seymour and I are in also had it and
that's what she was drinking and she chose to it
because death is in this epence this well.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
And as you're reading this, and you know you asked
me before, I was that the clad with Bistle Brothers
And I'm like, it's been.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
It's very like, yes, Lauren, is it the clab was like,
is it also Bistole Brothers. She's like, it's a very.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
Idiot, which makes it even better.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
Is a schooner.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
Winchester Brothers, Britt Bistle Brothers and it's their twelfth anniversary.
We're wrapping up eleven to kick off twelve.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
It's right Bistol Brothers out of you know, Portland, Maine.
I like them so plush. This beer is really good
to I love Bisis, I love uri Al, I love Bistle.
It's I have soup juice still, but I wanted to
save that.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
Drank for the last soup juice right before Superman. Tough
Well came over and he hadn't had one in a while,
so we papped it open.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
That makes sense, That makes sense well, speaking of episode
seventeen is red Meat. It is it's so goodness here,
but also this this show, but we got were wolves
and one just shot Sammy. While Dean wants to focus
on getting Lucifer out of cast, Sam finds a case
and insists he needs a distraction. As Dean is trying
(03:03):
to rescue a young couple from where wolves after getting
a tip from a local bartender.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Yeah not in a dirty way.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
Turns out they're actually a werewolf themselves, so they think
Sam is dead. The husband convinces Dean to leave him.
This is after the husband suffocates Sam and he passes out.
Because Sam is always getting his ass kicked. Now the husband,
it's hilarious. Okay, they call him moose, but moose are powerful,
and Sam gets his ass whooped at.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
Everywhere likeinkle moose, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
Paper tiger. Now the husband is quickly healed from his injuries.
Dean does not in fact leave Sam. However, once he
gets decoupled to safety, he wakes up in the hospital
after getting tased by a cop. We see the husband
was bit. Oh. The wife gives Dean her condolences, and naturally,
Dean then intentionally overdoses so he can talk to death
and get Samy back. He of course gives the wife
(03:55):
instructions how to bring him back. Enter Billy. Dean learns
Sam isn't even dead and Billy is there to reap him. Oh,
Billy serious.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
She you know, I loved her until the obviously the end.
She's the major bad guy and she yeah, but I did.
I did love her. She was like, I'm not putting
up with your bullshit anymore. Like Death thought you guys
were funny.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
I do like that. Well, she because she was a
reaper obviously, and she was there and Dean, you know,
the whole thing with them, and then she becomes Death
because Dean kills Death stupid and yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
Death Death wanted him to kill Sam.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
Yeah, well, I get it, I mean overall, I get it.
I loved I just love the iteration of death because
I don't really care for her either. Once she becomes death,
she kind of gets this arrogance.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
Fan of the Winchesters, which is fair fair cause death
in the.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
Reapers, yes, you know. And just in the nick of time,
Dean wakes up escapes the hospital while Sammy escapes where
they left him after stealing the warrel's ride and making
it to the Impala. Sam tries to warn Dean about
the husband. His service is awful the world has and
kills the doctor and the cop tries to turn the
wife because he is loving the where we'll feel it. Oh,
(05:07):
and this is when Dean comes in haha, none on
my watch. And then Sam, who takes the husband out.
Dean lies to Sam it does not tell him about
Billy oh really, which comes to really not pay off.
And later on when Sam has to go through Billy's
things and all of that, or is it Dean that
goes it's Dean because it's all the books of however,
he dies.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
Yeah, yeah, Yeah, No, I think I love Billy's introduction
because you know, she's singing like oh Death, which was
the song that Death was introduced to, and you know,
it is one of the best intros of anything.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
She does have a badass introduction, I will give her that.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
She's always just so like graceful and just so.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
She speaks very calm.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
Yes, so I love her demeanor. It's just yeah, in
the last season, she's the bad guy. She's you know,
she's up there with Chuck.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
Even though yeah, like Chuck's out there and God's out there,
you know, same one and the same doing all this
bad stuff. But Death just has this petty vendetta against
the Winchesters that she can't set us up when.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
People try to kill Dean. That's all. That's all it is.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
Or cast I mean, she kind of helps him out,
but like does it. She helps him out to a degree,
bro because like she was being instructed to.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
Yes, well, and we even see that in the finale
of this she shows up she's like, what the hell
a y'all doing? But we'll talk about that when we
get there.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
So, yeah, what are some fun facts?
Speaker 2 (06:19):
We don't have too many on this. Both the husband
and the doctor were repeat guests of the show. Dean
calls sam mostly dead, which we have to assume is
a nod to Wesley when he was in The Princess
Bride he was mostly dead but not fully. Some people
like to look at this is a little bit of
foreshadowing when the wife is talking with Dean and she's like,
he's like, you're you're gonna be okay, and she's like, well,
there's no normal after watching The Man you Love die,
(06:40):
obviously after Dean watches cast die, a lot of people
saying too that but like Dean comes back from that.
But I mean, this was a good episode. I liked
how they went back and forth and obviously you see
Sammy die, you know he's not dead, like we all
know that's not obviously right, But it was a cool
way to how they did it. And again this was
like the overall he was about Amara and they had
(07:01):
a standalone story. So those are always enjoyable, I think,
because it's it's as long.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
As I agree, and like when you know they bring
them like Dean most soften is the one that brings
him to the brink of death storstep two. We saw
it with you know how he went to sleep with
Freddy Krueger and all these other things.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
Sleep with Freddy Krueger, you know what I mean. I
know what you mean. But that was just a funny
way to this. Yes, as one does.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
You know who doesn't go to sleep with Freddy Krueger.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
Anybody who doesn't remember the actor who plays Freddy Krueger
played a doctor.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
Who put Deep Robert England.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
Yes, the quote unquote kill Dean so he could go
talk to death season past.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
So, yeah, Dean likes to get down with the death.
You know, Dean can't get drunk, Dean can't get high,
but Dean can certainly get a buzz from almost dying apparently.
But yeah, no, never really well, he gets high, he does.
I'm just saying like he doesn't that he doesn't get
that feeling like he does from almost being dead apparently,
because he keeps doing it.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
You're only living if you're almost just like.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
But He's like, Sam, don't drink the demon blood. Meanwhile,
I'm gonna go kill myself and get real real close
to death.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
So I have been watching the Countdown show. I'm only
like two maybe three episodes in, and he in the
show Jensen has Jensen's character has a brain tumor, and
he makes a comment about like you're not living unless
you're dying or you're about to die or something. Somebody's like, what,
oh is that show?
Speaker 1 (08:26):
Is he is he? Are they using him wisely in
that show? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (08:32):
I think they are. I'm not a big fan of
cop shows, so, like you know, I'm not like all in.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
I can't get into those kind of shows either. They're
just kind of same thing over and over in my opinion.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
So and I don't watch everything that these characters are in,
but I kept seeing clips and I kept seeing like
nods to the show.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
Has been championing the show a lot, so I will
give him that. Misha has been a real ro about it.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
But I mean, I'm enjoying it. But again, I think
I'm three episodes in, so I mean it's it's not
a terrible show. But if Jensen wasn't in it, like
they killed Jenson, I will watching.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
It feels as though it's one of those just generic
cop shows, but Jensen's in it, and that's like what
they're hoping to get people on board with.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
Well, one of the things that's nice about it being
a cop show because again I don't love these is
the fact that it's on Prime. So there's cursing in it,
there's actual talking. It's not a seffy kind of show
like so Super.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
Natal rocks Man.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
Yeah, so they're talking about, you know, real things and
you see real stuff and whatnot. But no, I'm enjoying it.
I'm not completely sucked in. And again, if Jensen wasn't it,
I wouldn't be watching it. But I did see a thing.
And so Jensen and Misha were at a con recently
and did a panel together, and apparently when they shot
the scene of Jensen, Misha and Jared for The Boys
season five, they did a take where they pretended to
(09:46):
be Sam, Dean and Castiel. And if that doesn't get
released after the show comes out.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
We riot, I'm sorry, we we just get take it
out up. You're wasting Jensen's talents putting him in an
Amazon Prime cop show when he could be doing so
many other.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
Starts next month.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
It does. I know, I'm just this, he's getting paid,
he's doing what he loves. So this is just me
being a petty bitch and that I just want the man,
either as Batman or I want to see him doing
some dope stuff in cinema. I really feel as though
he should be on I want to watch that man
on the big screen.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
Okay, he could pull I feel like it would be
a good Star Wars too, because like his hair these
days is a little would.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
Honestly if he played like a bounty hunter in a
Star Wars show or movie, that's what I could really
see him doing. He has that bounty hunter demeanor and as.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
He could play a Mandalorian, but he's got to take
his helmet off.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
He shouldn't be a Mandalorian. He should be not. I
don't think, well, that's what I'm saying. I just mean
in some shape or form he should be. I don't.
I think he would be better as somebody, not like
a Jedi. I feel as though he is somebody who
could work done. Yeah, or he's too late. I don't know.
You can portray the.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
Rug because he's not one sided. Maybe we need him
in a proper app Let's.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
Get in Hell's Angel here on episode eighteen, which is
Crowley gets the Horn of Joshua touched by the hand
of God, all while trying to hide from Lucifer's henchmen,
Rowena is trying to quote unquote help Amara, who's not
fully buying it, but now she is actually terrified of Lucifer,
and Crowley still thinks she's dead. Meanwhile, Cassifer heads to
Heaven to rain over the angels. He offers his services
(11:29):
to stop darkness as Crowley, Sam and Dean try to
figure out a plan. Dean and Sam are you over
whether cass should be exercised first or not. Dean, of
course wanting cast safe before Lucifer attacks tomorrow. Rowena spies
on the boys, lies to Amara, saying they're not sure
what to do. Rowena then sends a message to the
boys and Crowley that she is indeed alive. She goes
(11:50):
to them, They summon Cassifer. Dean unsuccessfully tries to pool
casts out, Lucifer walks out of the Ring of Fire.
Crowley possesses casts as well, and he's getting his ass
kicked by Lucifer. As Crowley does, cass is just chilling
watching TV during this Sometimes.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
Mark Philagrino actually shows up in the mind of Jimmy
Novak's body's.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
Back, and Crowley sends a message to help. Sam exercises
Crowley out of cast Lucifer is about done with these knuckleheads.
Almara then shows up, followed by Rowena. Cassifer uses the
horn on Amara and Nada. She then takes Cassifer dips
out peace out. Amara thinks Chuck may show if she
tortures Lucifer. You know, she's trying to get back at
(12:34):
her brother. Her brother's an a hole man. She just Meanwhile,
Rowena really is ending my respect at this point. I
admittedly was not a Rowena fan, but she at this
point is helping out the boys, and she's she really
grew on me. Man around he's eleven.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
I mean, I love that because when you first said
you didn't like Rowena, I was very surprised. But she's
only really.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
Itself until yeah fifteen, Yeah, yeah, I would say that.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
Yeah. And what's cute too, is you know, rewatching some
of this stuff. One knowing how it ends is interesting,
and two like knowing like in this season is when
you first get your scenes with Riena and Chuck together,
knowing they're now like engaged with a baby and stuff
is super cute because they have yeah they are yeah
so and well we'll get to that shortly, but they
have the conversation where the she's flirting with Chuck and
(13:24):
Crowley says, I'm not going to call you dad, and
it's like now they're actually engaged, which is super interesting.
I hope he calls him dad now.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
I that would be amazing, that would be hilarious. And
again I met Ruth at Mega Con. She's such a
sweet lady. Loved her too, and I love her like
this big.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
She's so freaking tiny.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
She is tiny, Yeah, she really is. Man, But what
fun facts did you have for this episode?
Speaker 2 (13:50):
So, Misha Collins, I actually learned this something Then and
Now podcast. He actually asked Mark Pellegrino, who is the
main Lucifer, the you know, the one we know?
Speaker 1 (13:58):
H Yeah, He goes, do you.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
Have any tips on how I can act like you?
Because he wants Yeah. Yeah, And Mark told Nisha that
he is always looking at everyone as if he's trying
to figure out whether he wants to kill them or
have relations with them. That's Mary.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
You can see that actually too. With you see it
a little bit more because Cass kind of has that doe.
I look to him normally. Yeah, And I will say
as Lucifer, you can see he's more pierced with his
eyes and his gaze and everything like that.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
Yeah, he looks down and up more so does Yeah. Yeah,
and his voice is more Misha Collins voice. It's not
the castile voice.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
That's voice is a little higher. Yeah, yeah, like you.
He's just softer talking.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
Which I've heard has not been good for his vocal corse.
I don't know. Misha actually improvised some of the scenes
when he's in heaven, like when he like straddles the
one angel that was improvised and there's another angel in
the background trying not to laugh. It is blurred because
like I read that fun in fact, and I always
like to see those things before I say them same,
But you can like see him kind of in the
background smiling, but it is blurry. He also apparently improvised
(15:09):
the line he who hesitates disintegrates.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
Oh, this is a fantastic.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
Line, man, Come on, Like it is always borders on
the side of like, you know, he sexualized? Is everything?
Is it getting a little FallCon here? Which is extra
hilarious when you learn that Jack's mom is who he
lost his virginity to, So Lucifer's still a virgin at
this point. Look that in mind, he is.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
Well that's topic. But that is typical like virgin talk.
Look at you know, American pie in any media in
the two thousands or I even remember, like as teenagers,
all of us just always constantly making jokes like that,
and a lot of people I knew were all virgin too.
That's like typical virgin talk. I feel like, you know,
like that Broie virgin talk. If that makes it, I
guess it would make more sense if you grew up
(15:54):
in the early two thousands, late nineties, where over that
time period where these jokes were more prevalent and things
like that, and no pop culture. But that's what I
felt and get from that.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
Yeah, it's super cute.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
Lenge take us to the next episode of nineteen.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
So the next episode of nineteen is called The Chitters.
So we start with a flashback of two brothers. The
younger one is talking about a boy he had a
crush on. Well, the older one wants him to be careful,
but they also talk about how they're going to get
out of this judgmental small town they're in. Suddenly the
older brother is something else. He's turned into a monster.
Now we jumped a current time. Dean is obsessing over
finding cast. So Sam again suggests, let's take a case
(16:30):
in the meantime. People are missing, just like they did
twenty seven years ago. In this small town. They talked
to someone who saw something. But however, she was on
a cannabis tour and she was very high. But she
saw eyes that looked weird and it had a junkless crotch.
So that's what she tells Dean. She doesn't say junkless.
Dean volunteer tears that, which is not the first time
he said that, And I have to imagine it is
a nod to Kevin Smith and Dogma because the first
(16:51):
time he used the term junklest was referring to angels.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
Yeah, dude, yes, Okay.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
So she found her friend again, but she was shivering
and chittering, so she's got the chitters. They go and
talk to someone else who lost their husband in the
last bat of disappearances twenty seven years ago. She tells
him that her husband was seen diddling multiple people right
around when he disappeared. He was at diddling other missing persons.
She then tells the boys that once a generation, people
(17:19):
get the chitters and start having orgies in the woods
and never to be seen again because that's what her
grandma told her.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
Oh so that's what happened to Diddy.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
Dean naturally, of course heads to the woods, and of
course he sees some of them.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
Dean said, orgies, I'm in.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
Well, usually musters are stamps thing though not deans. So
Dean's out there and he comes across a monster and
then two other hunters show up to save them, and
it's the young boy who is now all grown up
and his husband. So over some beers, they decide, like,
let's catch up over some beers. Let's find out what
we're fighting. And we learned that their names are Jesse
and Cizarre. Jesse is the younger boy whose older brother
(17:55):
was turned into a chitter. So they learn a lot
from them because Jesse obviously has become obsessed with this
because his older brother was his saving grace. It was
the only one who he felt wasn't judging him for
being gay, and his brother was trying to get him
out of that very narrow minded town. So they learn
that this is very rare. They're called bison, which is
a cicada spirit, and this is their reproduction cycle. Hassan
(18:16):
need vessels to reproduce Jesse then tells them about his brother,
and then Sam and Jesse go talk to the old
sheriff who was a sheriff during the last bout, and
Dean and Cizar go back to the wood. They actually
find the burrow, and Sam and Jesse learned that the
sheriff had found the borough twenty seven years ago, back
in eighty nine, and his daughter was that he thought
she had just gone back to school. They asked like,
why didn't you report her missing? He's like, I knew
(18:36):
where she was, and he retired after that, went up
to the woods and just kind of like, you know,
he couldn't move on from that either. Of Course, Jesse's
upset because he's like, dude, you could have told us
we could have ended this twenty seven years ago. Jesse
and Sam then meet up because the sheriff tells them
where the burrow is, and Jesse finds his brother's corpse
and they properly bury him or burn him. They decide
(18:57):
they're going to ask the hunters for help with the
mar So they're like, I think Jesse and Cizzar would
actually be really great in helping with this. They seem
like really good, capable Hunters. However, before they get the chance,
they start talking about how Jesse had agreed that once
they closed this case, he would get some closer and
they could move on and have a normal life. So
they end up not asking because they feel like it
would be wrong, because a hunter making it to the
(19:19):
finish line without dying is something you don't mess with.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
Well, absolutely it was, and it was heartfelt too because
a lot of Hunters right that are introduced into this
series you don't really get a lot of backstory in
and they're also one dimensional characters, where I feel these
two had some depth to them, right, you know, the
they're out looking for what happened to his brother and
once that's done, hey we can move on. Great, and
(19:44):
that's kind of they're out, Whereas looking in contrast to
our brothers, Sam and Dean, they don't really have that
ending point.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
Where well, they killed Yellow Eyes, but they kept going so.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
They had their out, they didn't take it. They continued on,
where as Jesse and Caesar Cizar are, Hey, we're taking
the out. Let's get out of this. We can go
build a life now. And so it's things like that
that make this episode good because you do see the
opposite side of the coin and it's looking into a
mirror of what if.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
Yeah, well, I wish we had gotten them back because
I thought that they were both well. First, I would
like to have seen them in something that they weren't
like emotional about. And also we never got Cizar's backstory,
like did he just get into hunting because he found out?
We don't know, because most hunters have a horrible backstory.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
Somebody got killed, somebody they know died, something like that, right.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
Yeah, it's always somebody close to them died. But I
really liked the chemistry too, especially because it was you know,
it would be as if Sam had lost Dean. That's
what it was. It was exactly you know, Jesse lost
his Dean. So I thought this was a fun spin,
like a good break from the overall story. Great to
meet new hunters, which I feel like we really haven't
(20:57):
met any other hunters in a while.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
We don't in the later seasons. I mean, you don't
get a lot of new hunters that are really worth
while usually when.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
We do their cannon fodder exactly.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
Yeah, still out there, who knows? Yeah, and they are
god the dream. I want to buy a cow so
bad after yesterday cow. That cow. I walked up this cow,
I don't care. This cow like licked my face and
we bonded and it posed up for pictures with me.
It was the cutest thing ever. Man.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
Yeah, it was freakingable.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
This big I went to this tiny little pig and
I started to pet him, and he just laid down
and put up his belly, and I was just like,
oh my god, gosh, I'm a sucker. Anyways, the beer
that Salmon Dean drink with the other Hunters is called
Ellie's Brew, which is a nod to the Blair Witch Project,
whose director Edward or Sanchez also direct. This episode explains
the Woods aspect a lot, right. Yeah, Sheriff Tyson asks
(21:58):
Salmon Dean if there is a ad case with Spanish
fly going around flu flyye fly. Spanish fly is an
emerald green beetle in the blister beetle family. The Beatles
produce a terrapine called cantharterid in, which is a toss
of blistering agent, but at one time was used as
an aphrodisiac in ancient Greece. Weird man, we didn't have rhinois.
(22:19):
It was common for the ground of carcasses of the
beetle to be ingested before sexual intercourse. Weird. Nature is weird.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
But that was the whole thing that they were using
humans to. They were diddling.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
I don't. I hate that word that one.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
I don't. I'm not.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
I don't like that word. I'm gonna be honest, I
don't like.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
Dean then asks her for like clarifications if they were
having sex, and she's like, what does diddling mean to you?
Speaker 1 (22:42):
I don't like that. Yeah, it's weird. The woman they
interview was also the Western horror with cold sores in
Frontier Land.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
What you don't remember that in Frontier Who when they
went back to like the mid to the western time
to get the phoenix ash?
Speaker 1 (22:58):
Oh no, I do you?
Speaker 2 (23:01):
Yeah? She was, she was covered. She was a poor
definition and I wouldn't call it.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
I know it's I don't know why.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
It's just funny prostitute. Is that better?
Speaker 1 (23:13):
Anyways? Yeah, let's go into episode twenty. Don't call me Shirley.
Come on, man, we know this one. Uh it's human
metatron dumpster diving. Gross. However, he shares his food with
a dog. You're a dog, as he yells that he
gives up. He's suddenly in a bar with Chuck. Before
this is a good episode, mind you. Before learning Chuck
is God, he ships all over the Supernatural books. Chuck
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then shows himself and tells Metatron he wants him to
read his autobiography and that he's never going to be
an angel again. Metatron gives him some tips, most of
which he doesn't love. Cut to the bunker, Dina's ironing
clothes with the beer, and Sam found a case where
he thinks they got some soulless people courtesy of Amara.
The boys go to check it out. The town is
slowly engulfed with a heavy fog, not to be confused
(23:57):
with Tom Welling's Fog movie. Those impacted by the fog
and hear and are controlled by Amara. It's the infection
from when she was first released. Back to Metatron and Chuck,
Metatron tries to convince Truck to stop. Amara tells Chuck
that he's just hiding. He's a scared baby. Chuck's like, no, dude,
I'm not hiding. I'm not watching my experiments fail anymore.
As the fog spreads, an entire town is getting infected.
(24:18):
Medatron then pleads for Chuck to not give up on
humans because they will never give up. Chuck sings fairthe
Well while Dean's Samuelt lights up. Town is healed. The
boys walk outside, and this is when they find out
that Chuck is God.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
Ohough Dean still doesn't buy it right away.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
This is a good one.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
Yeah, and I love when Chuck reveals himself and it's
maybe it's because I grew up going to church, but
they start singing like Lord of Lords and I love that.
And then yeah, the fairly well. If you enjoy listening
to Chuck saying that fairly well version, there is a.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
Version of that pretty good musician.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
Hey, he's got a band load and swain he does.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
Yeah, he's really solid man.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
And if you ever go to a con and you
buy his CD for twenty dollars, the whole band will
sign the cover, including Chuck himself, whereas pain for just
his signature is more than that. Twenty bucks. You get
a CD God signature twenty bucks.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
God. If I would do that just for the soul
joke that why do you have a CD that's like
sitting on your you know, whatever it is. God signed that,
and then they would be so confused because they probably
haven't seen Supernatural, and I'll be like idiot, God signed it. Chuck.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
Well, when his songs come on my spot, if I
playlist and so on the TV, I tell the children
that God has graced our house with his presence.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
God has spoken.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
They don't find it funny at all.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
Oh gosh. Well, going back to the episode, however, I
do enjoy the old bar. It kind of makes me
feel like it's an old pizza hut. I don't know why.
Maybe it's the boots.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
Oh, it's a significant bar. I don't remember why, and
a lot of the famous son of a nutcracker. I
should have looked for that up.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
Well, they were sitting in the empty bar. And there
is a lot of good exposition written in this episode
between these two. I don't like Metatron, but his actor amazing.
You know, both of them really have a lot of
good exposition, especially when Metatron is finding out that this
is God he's been doing X Y Z and Chuck
basically is giving up on humanity. This is Chuck more
(26:19):
or less saying humanity end. Yeah, it really is, especially
when he reveals himself to the boys. Because from this
point on, God is essentially a bad guy to these guys.
He doesn't they're they're I mean, obviously we get the
whole episodes where he doesn't they're no longer graced by God,
but this is more or less when he's essentially done
(26:41):
with them, He's done with humanity, all of that kind
of stuff. And not for nothing. He is kind of
afraid of Mamara because he's an asshole to his sister
and she's back for revenge now, thanks Dean.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
But yeah, yeah, yeah, but I love when he makes
the comment about like, I've recreated Castiel more times than
I can count, and so it fills in some plot
holds two of like you know, how to had cast
come back after he was exploded and who put us
on this does? Yeah, so you always kind.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
Of this answered a lot of my questions. I mean,
I was like, how are these guys always dying coming back?
It's because God literally willed them. God willed it.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
Yeah. Well, and I love the ironing with beer thing.
It's such a small scene and I think it's supposed
to be for us old men, but it's it's such
a perfect example of the fact that Dean raised Sam
but he's still his brother. So it's like he's ironing
his clothes, Like, did Sam ask him to iron his clothes?
Did Dean just do that on his own? Is that
(27:37):
just what Dean's always done, is iron Sammy's.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
It's a good point, yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
Right beer, because it's his brother he's just.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
Doing I don't know why. It feels very just old
man like where he's just with the beer ironing. I
guess it. I grew up iron. I don't iron anything.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
My hair straightener.
Speaker 1 (27:59):
Oh that's a good I have a I have a steamer.
That's what I used to basically iron anymore.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
I do have an iron, but I only use it
to like make cooozies and stuff with that.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
I do have an iron still for rare occasions. It
just reminds me more or less of my birth dad
ironing his military uniform BDUs back in the day, or
like my grandpa also ironing his uniform back in the day.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
There's a lot of ironing back in the day.
Speaker 1 (28:20):
Well, yeah, you had to iron them all and starts
him and all that kind of stuff. But you don't
do that anymore.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
I don't even know what starch starch.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
It's like starts to make it. So like if once
you iron it and you starts it, it keeps that
iron like that crease. So say you like crease back
in the day, you still have on military basically hairspray
for clothes a spray.
Speaker 2 (28:40):
Yeah, so, you know, I always imagined it was like
pancake mix.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
Well in you think in a corn starch, that's probably okay.
But you would have your military uniforms that you would iron,
and they would always love the When military had their
chevrons on their sleeves, they would always iron. The crease
in the arms would always be ironed, so that way
was like folded in half essentially, and they would start
stuff like that to make it stay. So it's essentially
(29:06):
hairspray for your freaking clothes. I don't know, it's stupid,
don't I had.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
To wear a suit every day. I just dry cleaned everything.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
That's fair. Yeah, all right, Well, do you have any
fun facts? Before we moved to episode twenty one, do
I have infects?
Speaker 2 (29:19):
I do? I have quite a few, Sonatron Chuck says
he was busy writing another book series called Revolution. Revolution
was actually a TV show written by Eric Kriske, who
is the creator and writer of Supernatural. I Love They
still kept Kripke like very close to home. Because of this,
he wasn't a showrunner anymore so. The fake agent names
in this episode that the Winchesters use are Greer and
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a Heart, which are the names of the band or
names of people from the band Kansas who sing Carryong,
the unofficial theme song of Supernatural. The title of this
episode is a play on a running joke from the
nineteen eighty two comedy film Airplane, which are we getting
another one with Liam Neeson?
Speaker 1 (29:56):
No, that's that's that's naked Gun. Naked Gun, which is
out I think in the next couple of weeks. Yeah,
that's what they've been promoting pretty heavily. Yes, I was like, wait, no,
for a second, I thought you said Leslie.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
I think I need to because.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
Is the one doing naked Gun now along with Pamela Anderson.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
She's also Leslie Nelson. Isn't he the original one?
Speaker 1 (30:19):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (30:19):
Yes, all right, so I always get it, I think, Yeah, okay,
So anyways, in Airplane, a character says, when told something
that was hard to accept, he says, surely you can't
be serious, to which she responds, I am serious.
Speaker 1 (30:30):
Just reminds me of the legal ad you. I don't
know if you remember the legal ad, but there was
this whole thing is they just do awful movie quotes
and Carrie hated it.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
Oh, it was terrible. I don't know what you're talking about.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
Yes, it was like before I was still living in Idaho. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
before they started putting stupid soda ads and then the
previews and then yeah, and they.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
Were quoting like the no I'm glad.
Speaker 1 (30:55):
I yeah, you can't sit with us, right no?
Speaker 2 (31:00):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (31:00):
No? Oh man. Yes, So Chuck actually tells Metatron that
the last time he saw you a look like that
on an editor's face, he had just handed in Bugs,
which is of course of nod to Bugs being one
of the most poorly rated episodes of Supernatural. Actually, bothlines
is number one. The finale is number three. Oof. Imagine
being the finale being your worst rated episode.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
But Leslie Nielsen is in Airplane, but he's also a
naked gun, which is probably why I get them give back.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
That's most likely why. Yeah, he did both. Now we're
just gonna get Liam Neeson doing Airplane next. After the gun.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
There he go.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
Yes, Liam Neeson has moved off from the Taken to
in qui gon Jin and now he's just doing parodies
of movies, which for him. They get the bag, dude,
get the bag now. Episode twenty one, All in the Family,
we pick right up with Chuck again. As Dean doubts
Chuck is God, he snaps them to the bunker. Kevin
suddenly appears. Ah, this is sad. Chuck moves Kevin from
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the veil to what looks like Heaven. We then learn
later it is actually hell. Jane replies, yes, Kevin Dice, Yeah,
when you were always telling me that Kevin has a
really sad backstory.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
Like no, I gets sotter, No, he gets otder.
Speaker 1 (32:10):
How does it get worse? Well, guess what. Kevin gets
sent to hell because God's a dick, and Dean replies
with a proper holy crep. As Samon Dean process what
is going on. Dean asks him where the hell he's
been and why is he saying so silent. Chuck explains
how much he used to step in and it did nothing,
so he decided to step away. As Dean continues to
(32:31):
blame Chuck, he tells Dean not to confuse him with
his father. This is when they then cut to Amara
torturing Cassifer. Yeah, back to Chuck in the brain boys
are brainstorming. Amara shows herself to Dean in the bunker
with a very beat up Cassifer and a new prophet
has awakened. This is Donna Tello. This guy's a trip man.
Donna Tello is such a weird trip inclusion, but he's
(32:53):
around to like the whole thing. So named after the
sculpture not the Ninja turtle. Okay. While talking to Donnazello,
Amara shows herself again to Dean, saying she needs to
talk to him. They take Donnie Donnie Boy to the
bunker where Chucker, Chuck, her Geesezok is watching TV and
eating Chinese and his underwear. Metatron reaches out tells the
(33:15):
boys that Chuck is going to give in to Amara.
Dean then confronts him, and Chuck says that he's gonna
do that only if a Mara spares the world. All right, okay,
we can work with this. As Dean questions, Chuck explains,
that's why he has saved Mean all those years ago.
He and the other chosen Ones are his firewall between
light and darkness. Dean then insists it has to be
Chuck so to get Castifer from Amara. Dean reaches out
(33:37):
to distract her. She tells him she wants to be
wants him to be a part of her. Dude, she
took the deal man, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
No, but him disappearing like her, the couch disappearing in her.
Speaker 1 (33:48):
Yeah, I know, I know, okay, Medaitron, Sam and Donnie
get Castifer. Amara then realizes this is a distraction. As
others try to leave, Metatron attempts to redeem himself. He
stays behind the stop her and this is when he dies.
You're supposed to care, but you don't. Almara stops baby
(34:10):
Chuck teleports the whole car.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
I feel like, okay, so with Metatron, and like Dean
even says it, he's like, wow, Metatron took one for
the team. I didn't see that coming. I don't think
we were supposed to be like wow, what a good
guy in the end.
Speaker 1 (34:23):
I absolutely hope not, because well, Metatron was never a
good dude. They have spent seasons upon seasons explaining to
us that Metatron was such a dick and he was awful.
That does death died? He just dies and I think
almost though, and sometimes art Sorry, go ahead, I'm getting
(34:45):
into it. Oh, I was just saying that, like sometimes
in art they just have that unceremonious death that I
actually think it's kind of one of those where you're
not even relieved, it's just oh that it's it's the
sometimes the perfect ending to a character that is such
an ahle who thinks there's so much more important than
they are that when they die in such a just
wet balloon kind of way, Yeah, that's the death he deserved.
(35:09):
And I do almost feel like that's what they're kind
of were going for. There wasn't supposed to invoke any
reaction from us. It was he's dead, okay anyways.
Speaker 2 (35:18):
And it was just kind of like, huh, we didn't
see that coming.
Speaker 1 (35:21):
No, no, no, we didn't at all.
Speaker 2 (35:24):
But it was interesting because he just wanted to save
humanity because he enjoyed the books, he enjoyed the enjoyed
what humanity created, but it never made him love humanity
until he thought humanity.
Speaker 1 (35:34):
Was going to be taken away, which is you don't
know what you have until it's gone. Based one of
those things you know. Your fun fact here that the
title is from a sitcom in the seventies. It's also
a corn song which features Fred Durst from limb Biscuit. Uh.
You know, I sometimes I get in these I don't
even know what kind of moods where I'm just I
need to listen to limb Biscuit.
Speaker 2 (35:54):
And it's just I like them.
Speaker 1 (35:57):
It's just one of those days.
Speaker 2 (35:58):
You're based.
Speaker 1 (36:04):
Oliver loves break Stuff and Carrie for the first time.
How does he know that? And I go, that's my fault.
I was playing in the car and he's there singing it,
and I'm just, you know, whatever.
Speaker 2 (36:12):
Man had the other day and Josh and I were yelling,
we break face. So yes, the whole Kevin scene that
was very interesting because I feel like God was being
very passive aggressive and he is like, look, I'm doing
something to that. I'm on your side. Kevin vouches for him,
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and then he sends him to Hell, which is.
Speaker 1 (36:36):
A messing dude. And again this is when you're really
sitting there like, dude, GOD'SID.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
But we don't know that for literally years.
Speaker 1 (36:45):
We don't know that Kevin got sent to Hell. We
don't know what happened.
Speaker 2 (36:48):
And he was kind of guilted by Metatron to go
help him. So I feel like he was like fine,
I'll make it look like I'm helping, but I'm not
actually going to help. I'm going to sell her little
Kevin advanced placement to Hell. I mean, at least for
Kevin defense. He got some good street cred because not
many people get sent to Hell directly by God.
Speaker 1 (37:04):
True. But also like Kevin doesn't deserve any it is
no crazy.
Speaker 2 (37:10):
Have you assume that Jack took Kevin out of the
veil again and properly put him in heaven, And that
is one of the characters. I truly feel if they
had been able to give the proper twenty twenty ending
they wanted to before COVID scene and then with missus Tran.
Speaker 1 (37:27):
This is why we need it to reboot for a
few more seasons, all of us, can I know? We
all anyways?
Speaker 2 (37:35):
So also I thought it was very interesting because when
Dean is talking to God, when when Chuck is like
you're my firewall, Dean's like, I give me a vampire.
I'm good, I can't go up against the darkness. Well, Dean, no,
a vampire ends up killing you, which.
Speaker 1 (37:49):
God boilers all right, episode twenty two, we happy for you,
which is appropriate after talking about that death and finale
while Dean and Sam try to get Lucifer and Chuck
to talk so that they can take down Amara. Crowley
is back and he's trying to make Hell great again.
Oh boy, one hundred percent tariffs on anybody improperly sent
(38:11):
to Hell from God. Chuck then explains to Lucifer that
he gave him the Mark because he thought he could
handle it when it corrupts him his favorite son. He
punished Lucifer, so in a roundabout way, they make up,
but not really. They make up enough to work together.
They strategize. Dean gets Crowley, Cast comes out to get
the Angels. They also then get Rowena and her powerful
(38:33):
witch friends. Meanwhile, Amara is torturing Donnie takes his soul,
so now she knows where everybody's at, and she ends
up at the bunker, sees a picture of Dean and Mary.
Rowena reaches out to lure Amara in and they all
attack at once. Seek attack pockets hand or pocket Witch
well with the plan to have Sam carey the mark.
(38:54):
This time, they attack Amara is then weekend. Chuck is apologetic,
but as he goes to cage her again, she grabs him,
pulls Lucifer out of Cast takes the sun away in
vows to destroy it all.
Speaker 2 (39:08):
I think she took the sun away, that's what is implied, Yes,
but it's really just because Chuck is dying. Duh. But
I mean, I feel like we've seen that before. It's like,
don't put me back in that cage. Kill me before
you do that. I will not go back in that cage.
And I don't blame her. She was alone for like,
I mean, that's a long solitary confinement. All right, So
some fun fact that's true, Crowley saying, let's make hell
(39:29):
grade again. This episode came out in May of twenty sixteen,
when Trump was running with the slogan make America Great Again,
so that was an intentional nod to that. The title
of this episode, We Happy Few is a direct quo
quote from the play Henry the Fifth by William Shakespeare.
It is from the pre battle speech that King Henry
the Fifth delivers right before the Battle of Agincourt, often
referred to as quote the Saint Kripston Chrispin's Day speech
(39:53):
end quote. The full line from the speech is we few,
we happy few, we band of brothers. Henry is delivering
this speech to his men and f to try to
express love for them, try to hype them up and
really try to get them going, because he knows they're
severely outnumbered by the French army, and he also knows
that the French army is better prepared because they've been
traveling through the night and all this stuff. So yeah,
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it's like, hey, we know where we are the we're
the underdog. When Amar rips Lucifer out of cast, you
can actually see Mark Pellogrino's face for a second. Check
this because I did not pick that up. So I'm
like watching it on my phone. I'm like Playpaus, Playplas, playplas,
and I'm like, ohh yeah, there you can.
Speaker 1 (40:31):
That's cool. Yeah, I love little details like that.
Speaker 2 (40:35):
Yeah, Chuck mentions in this episode, which I thought was
very interesting. This is not a fun fact. This is
something I noticed. He can't bring Gabriel back because they're like,
you know what about arch angels, And he's like, well,
I can't bring Gabriel back. They're like, you brought cast
back so many times. He's like, arch angels are hard
to rebuild. Gabriel is not dead, he's trapped in hell.
Speaker 1 (40:55):
Yeah yeah, what oh god?
Speaker 2 (40:57):
That guy was a trip to So I thought that
that was very interesting that Chuck can't pick up that
Gabeu is still alive.
Speaker 1 (41:04):
I assume I thought that was interesting too, because he
comes back later down the road again.
Speaker 2 (41:08):
Yes, yeah, because he Yeah, because he's around when Jack
is around. He needs to And I love when Chuck
calls Roweno one of his guilty pleasures because that is
now his soon to be a wife and baby mama.
Speaker 1 (41:21):
That's true, that is true. Yeah, this this sets up.
You're basically thinking the sun is gone? Oh god, how
did they get out of this? Amara has been pissed off,
which leads us into the finale, which is Alpha and Omega.
They are all licking their wounds. Chuck can feel his
light is fading, and cass d l is back. Chuck
snaps him back to the bunker, and Dean pulls out
(41:42):
a six pack, as one probably should do at this point,
because what else you're going to do? Right? Uh? You know?
Speaker 2 (41:47):
So we had laundry of iron the truth.
Speaker 1 (41:51):
He's ironing so many laundries. Cassan Dean go for a
ride where Dean tails cass he's their brother. Back to bunker.
This was a good sweet moment where between did and
cast Bay the way. That's why when cass is telling
Dean he loves him that I never took it as
anything more like some of those people who write fan
fiction did, because it's Dean saying you did. You're our brother,
we love You're my brother. Anakin.
Speaker 2 (42:13):
Misha Collins has come out and said that this was
the Castiel is gay, that this was a perfect Oh.
Speaker 1 (42:18):
I haven't that is okay, Well never mind, I didn't care.
I don't carry the way. But that's just how.
Speaker 2 (42:23):
I even said, you're the one thing I want, the
one thing I want. I know I can't have. Osa's
come out and clarified no, he was in love with
Dean and they in fact, oh could you not be?
Or Misha knew, I want to say, a year and
a half before it was filmed, but Jensen didn't know until,
like I don't know a few months before it was
(42:45):
filmed that they were going in that direction. So they
ran out by the boys before they actually took it
in that direction.
Speaker 1 (42:50):
Spoiler alert. Anyways, Chuck is dying, so now that they
can kill Amara and quickly because the son is dying,
Rowena comes up with the idea for a ghost bomb kaboom,
So the boys go ghost busting to collect They.
Speaker 2 (43:03):
Really do, because they're like, it's like they might as
well have the thing from ghost I know.
Speaker 1 (43:08):
Billy sees them busting ghosts right before the credits.
Speaker 2 (43:11):
Are about to roll feel good.
Speaker 1 (43:13):
She's very curious, so she shows up to the bunker
helps them get more souls. Meanwhile, Amara is talking to
a human and looks sad. As the world begins to
die off, Dean offers to be the bomb as Rowena.
He is the bomb to be fair as Roena puts
all of the ghosts inside of him, the ghost inside
great band. Now, the boys have a moment at their
(43:33):
mom's tombstone. Then, foreshadowing, Dean says by to cast and
Sam and Chuck sends him off. She senses the bomb immediately.
They then talk it out. Dean talks about his family
because he you know, of course he's gonna show up
in Fast and Furious eleven. Amara summons Chuck heals him.
They then bond, and Chuck takes the bomb out of
his chest and says that they're leaving Earth. Leaving and
(43:53):
Earth will be fine because it has Dean and Sam,
Chuck and Amara vanish but not before Amara says that
Dean gave her what she needed. Oh, she wanted to
return the favor back at the Bunker, the asshole British lady,
blast cast yell away, take Sam cut the Dean. He
finds Mary in a nightgown. God, this was such a
(44:14):
great episode until Mary Winchester came back. Because I spent
all the season.
Speaker 2 (44:18):
The freaking mental Letters, and I hated that lady. I
hated that.
Speaker 1 (44:20):
I also hated the British mena Letters storyline. Okay, everybody
has beef with the freaking Leviathan's, but my beef is
with this whole Mena Letters storyline in Mary Winchester. Okay,
no offense to the actress.
Speaker 2 (44:36):
Oh, I don't love Mary Winchester all.
Speaker 1 (44:38):
No.
Speaker 2 (44:38):
I love Samantha Smith.
Speaker 1 (44:40):
Samantha Smith, You're great, Honey, You're great. Oh my god.
I could have done without the British men of Letters
that entire storyline, because then it gives us that douchebag,
and then it gives us this annoying ass lady. She
is so annoying.
Speaker 2 (44:54):
I hate her so much.
Speaker 1 (44:55):
I distinctly remember texting you how much I hated her.
Speaker 2 (45:00):
Mm hm.
Speaker 1 (45:01):
Anyways, I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (45:02):
I've heard people make comments of like, I think it's
really funny that season eleven of Supernatural, the big bad
villain is just British people. But what's funny is like, so,
at this time I was still watching on Netflix, so
I wasn't fully caught up. Season eleven, though, was airing
at the time when I was still catching up, and
so I saw like a trailer when I was watching
(45:25):
Er or something. I saw a trailer and it was
this British lady and Sam in bed together because she
was messing with his mind. And I'm thinking, like, oh,
Sam has a girlfriend. Oh that's fun. And then when
I ast the episode, I'm.
Speaker 1 (45:35):
Like, Sam, at your girlfriend? Dude? Who dude girlfriend?
Speaker 2 (45:43):
She?
Speaker 1 (45:44):
Oh my? Yeah. It was like a heartfelt ending, although
you still I didn't fully hate God yet at this point,
but I didn't.
Speaker 2 (45:52):
We weren't supposed to.
Speaker 1 (45:54):
Kind There was some armor cracks, you know, cracks on
the armor there, and so you're essentially like, m all right,
and then Aamara disappears for sure, Okay, well cool, great,
But then yeah, dude, I don't I'm not looking forward
to season twelve because I do not like these people
at all. I like thirteen, thirteen, fourteen good, fifteen was
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great and then the finale. But I mean season twelve
wasn't bad. There's good episodes. I just do not for
this storyline.
Speaker 2 (46:24):
I think one of the things I hate about Mary
too is she was very cold to cast Yeah, and
it was like your son's bound. He would lay down
his life for your sons, which he's done before, and
not just Dean, he'd lay down his life for Sam too,
and like you're still like hesitant, like we're still and
then she's like, oh the demon and his witch mother
back the fuck off, bitch.
Speaker 1 (46:45):
Oh God, I just hate Mary Winchester.
Speaker 2 (46:48):
Well, just be some venting.
Speaker 1 (46:51):
Season twelve is gonna be cathartic for everybody, unless you
know some.
Speaker 2 (46:54):
People are like, well she she was used to being
in heaven with her four year old and her infant,
and like this is her four year old and her infant.
Speaker 1 (47:01):
Yeah it is, yeah, Yeah, we'll get there.
Speaker 2 (47:06):
I think my favorite. I do want to mention this
because anytime we talk about the Book of the Dumned,
I have to say it the way Dean says it,
how Rowena says it, because I love that He's like, oh,
but all those blimey ghosts and with the Book of
the Dumned, and I just I love that.
Speaker 1 (47:19):
I do. I agree, I agree that I love Dean
man I just again, I love Rowena. So it's to me,
it's more of like an endearing mocking even though it's
probably kind.
Speaker 2 (47:30):
Of they're starting to come around to her at that point, I.
Speaker 1 (47:33):
Think, exactly getting close together, because before Dean would just
like top crapt her and try to kill her, but
now he's actively mocking her in a sense that it's like, okay, yeah,
you know Dean.
Speaker 2 (47:44):
And Sam kind of looks at him like, what are
you doing. I love how Sam and Rowena's relationship develops.
Speaker 1 (47:49):
I really do too. That is one of my favorite
things about these back Half seasons is the relationship that
Sam and Rowena have together. I do love that, and
I wish there was more because it's she almost becomes
that motherly figure to him. She's they're very good together.
I don't know why. I would have loved to have
seen more of them together.
Speaker 2 (48:09):
Yeah, they are good together. I did love that as well.
If she became like a mentor. Yeah, I loved when
they brought Eileen back too. I mean we're jumping ahead.
Speaker 1 (48:17):
I don't even get me started.
Speaker 2 (48:20):
Sam's wife.
Speaker 1 (48:21):
Yes, and I was already on a soapax talking about
how I hate the British Mint letters. So we can
end there. Go ahead, we're done with season eleven. We
will move to season twelve as we work our way
through summer. We have until September for the twentieth anniversary.
Speaker 2 (48:33):
We got four seasons to dowel.
Speaker 1 (48:36):
We gotta get moving. Then, all right, we're gonna get moving.
All right. We are for you guys and for us
the twentieth anniversaries in September. We will get there. Make
sure you check out our episode this coming Monday on
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(48:58):
supernatural talk in our our discord for us to you know,
I want more of it. I do, because I do
want to talk.
Speaker 2 (49:04):
All docs, but we haven't finalized exactly what our topic
is going to be that we're going to submit to
megicn too. I feel like I had an idea during Megicon,
and I forgot I.
Speaker 1 (49:11):
Haven't, so I've been looking and they haven't. They don't
have their press or panel stuff up yet, right, But
we should absolutely solidify this beforehand.
Speaker 2 (49:20):
Yeah, so we're ready to talk.
Speaker 1 (49:22):
So where we are going to be back at Megicon?
Unfortunately San Diego didn't work out. I am bummed about that.
But the next convention, maybe you'll see us. Who knows
what's going on where. I don't think I have any
more conventions. Lauren doesn't for the rest of this year.
Speaker 2 (49:36):
My next invention might be Magic on in March.
Speaker 1 (49:38):
It might be March. We were looking at C two
E two, but it's all within the same week of
each other, so not going to be able to make
that work. But who knows what's on the horizon?
Speaker 2 (49:46):
You want to panel makes more sense.
Speaker 1 (49:48):
You can also just like let your conventions know that
you want us to host a panel. That would be
cool if you did. Anybody people that listen to this,
If you're like, hey, I would love a supernatural panel
hosted by Matt and.
Speaker 2 (49:58):
Lauren, Like who the hell are Matt Lauren.
Speaker 1 (50:00):
They'll be like what And then you just link our
stuff and we're talking supernatural and listen. I don't want
to brag, but we tend to get supernatural.
Speaker 2 (50:08):
Come on, man, we got tend to get like ten
people in there, no more than ten because we are
like us.
Speaker 1 (50:17):
You're right, we get my mom. Anyways, come on, Lauren,
God dang, it was running our street. Cred the three
people that listen to us. If you want to see
us at a con, let us know otherwise. We'll be
at Mega Con in March, but we'll talk to you
about supernatural and all these other good stuff soon. Peace Out,
Girl Scout
What up, everybody? Supernatural family, We are back. I know
few and far between. Lately we are just the worst,
but we are here to finish season eleven of Supernatural
with is episode seventeen through the finale of season eleven.
I am mat with me as always is Lauren and
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can add free episodes, earlier episodes, all of that good jazz.
But that's where we're at. Man, Come hang out with
us in discord. We got a Supernatural chain, one for
non spoilers and one for spoilers because there are some
people that haven't finished it yet. It took me a
couple of years. I'm a newbie. I don't think I'm
a newbie anymore. We've done a few Supernatural panels. I
like to think that I'm not so new. But anyways,
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as you finish this up, we're drinking together forever. Actually
it's from Burial Brewing their collab with Bistol Brothers. It
is the collab.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
See if I would have confirmed that when you asked.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
Yes, it's the cryptic confluence of youthful genius double ipa.
It will plague you too soon. These things always do
before the eyes have learned to lie of blinding clarity
in a world blurred by mistakes. Burden Dressed in Awe
Fever Dream that Never cools. A twelfth anniversary collaboration with
the fine folks that Bistol Brothers Brewing mashed with Epiphany,
tri Kill whatever in Oats, double Dry Hops with Galaxy
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Eclipse and Bstle's own Citra a lot boosted with Eclipse
hop Keif and Citra Incognito. Artwork is done by David
Paul Seymour and I are in also had it and
that's what she was drinking and she chose to it
because death is in this epence this well.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
And as you're reading this, and you know you asked
me before, I was that the clad with Bistle Brothers
And I'm like, it's been.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
It's very like, yes, Lauren, is it the clab was like,
is it also Bistole Brothers. She's like, it's a very.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
Idiot, which makes it even better.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
Is a schooner.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
Winchester Brothers, Britt Bistle Brothers and it's their twelfth anniversary.
We're wrapping up eleven to kick off twelve.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
It's right Bistol Brothers out of you know, Portland, Maine.
I like them so plush. This beer is really good
to I love Bisis, I love uri Al, I love Bistle.
It's I have soup juice still, but I wanted to
save that.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
Drank for the last soup juice right before Superman. Tough
Well came over and he hadn't had one in a while,
so we papped it open.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
That makes sense, That makes sense well, speaking of episode
seventeen is red Meat. It is it's so goodness here,
but also this this show, but we got were wolves
and one just shot Sammy. While Dean wants to focus
on getting Lucifer out of cast, Sam finds a case
and insists he needs a distraction. As Dean is trying
(03:03):
to rescue a young couple from where wolves after getting
a tip from a local bartender.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Yeah not in a dirty way.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
Turns out they're actually a werewolf themselves, so they think
Sam is dead. The husband convinces Dean to leave him.
This is after the husband suffocates Sam and he passes out.
Because Sam is always getting his ass kicked. Now the husband,
it's hilarious. Okay, they call him moose, but moose are powerful,
and Sam gets his ass whooped at.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
Everywhere likeinkle moose, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
Paper tiger. Now the husband is quickly healed from his injuries.
Dean does not in fact leave Sam. However, once he
gets decoupled to safety, he wakes up in the hospital
after getting tased by a cop. We see the husband
was bit. Oh. The wife gives Dean her condolences, and naturally,
Dean then intentionally overdoses so he can talk to death
and get Samy back. He of course gives the wife
(03:55):
instructions how to bring him back. Enter Billy. Dean learns
Sam isn't even dead and Billy is there to reap him. Oh,
Billy serious.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
She you know, I loved her until the obviously the end.
She's the major bad guy and she yeah, but I did.
I did love her. She was like, I'm not putting
up with your bullshit anymore. Like Death thought you guys
were funny.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
I do like that. Well, she because she was a
reaper obviously, and she was there and Dean, you know,
the whole thing with them, and then she becomes Death
because Dean kills Death stupid and yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
Death Death wanted him to kill Sam.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
Yeah, well, I get it, I mean overall, I get it.
I loved I just love the iteration of death because
I don't really care for her either. Once she becomes death,
she kind of gets this arrogance.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
Fan of the Winchesters, which is fair fair cause death
in the.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
Reapers, yes, you know. And just in the nick of time,
Dean wakes up escapes the hospital while Sammy escapes where
they left him after stealing the warrel's ride and making
it to the Impala. Sam tries to warn Dean about
the husband. His service is awful the world has and
kills the doctor and the cop tries to turn the
wife because he is loving the where we'll feel it. Oh,
(05:07):
and this is when Dean comes in haha, none on
my watch. And then Sam, who takes the husband out.
Dean lies to Sam it does not tell him about
Billy oh really, which comes to really not pay off.
And later on when Sam has to go through Billy's
things and all of that, or is it Dean that
goes it's Dean because it's all the books of however,
he dies.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
Yeah, yeah, Yeah, No, I think I love Billy's introduction
because you know, she's singing like oh Death, which was
the song that Death was introduced to, and you know,
it is one of the best intros of anything.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
She does have a badass introduction, I will give her that.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
She's always just so like graceful and just so.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
She speaks very calm.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
Yes, so I love her demeanor. It's just yeah, in
the last season, she's the bad guy. She's you know,
she's up there with Chuck.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
Even though yeah, like Chuck's out there and God's out there,
you know, same one and the same doing all this
bad stuff. But Death just has this petty vendetta against
the Winchesters that she can't set us up when.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
People try to kill Dean. That's all. That's all it is.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
Or cast I mean, she kind of helps him out,
but like does it. She helps him out to a degree,
bro because like she was being instructed to.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
Yes, well, and we even see that in the finale
of this she shows up she's like, what the hell
a y'all doing? But we'll talk about that when we
get there.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
So, yeah, what are some fun facts?
Speaker 2 (06:19):
We don't have too many on this. Both the husband
and the doctor were repeat guests of the show. Dean
calls sam mostly dead, which we have to assume is
a nod to Wesley when he was in The Princess
Bride he was mostly dead but not fully. Some people
like to look at this is a little bit of
foreshadowing when the wife is talking with Dean and she's like,
he's like, you're you're gonna be okay, and she's like, well,
there's no normal after watching The Man you Love die,
(06:40):
obviously after Dean watches cast die, a lot of people
saying too that but like Dean comes back from that.
But I mean, this was a good episode. I liked
how they went back and forth and obviously you see
Sammy die, you know he's not dead, like we all
know that's not obviously right, But it was a cool
way to how they did it. And again this was
like the overall he was about Amara and they had
(07:01):
a standalone story. So those are always enjoyable, I think,
because it's it's as long.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
As I agree, and like when you know they bring
them like Dean most soften is the one that brings
him to the brink of death storstep two. We saw
it with you know how he went to sleep with
Freddy Krueger and all these other things.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
Sleep with Freddy Krueger, you know what I mean. I
know what you mean. But that was just a funny
way to this. Yes, as one does.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
You know who doesn't go to sleep with Freddy Krueger.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
Anybody who doesn't remember the actor who plays Freddy Krueger
played a doctor.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
Who put Deep Robert England.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
Yes, the quote unquote kill Dean so he could go
talk to death season past.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
So, yeah, Dean likes to get down with the death.
You know, Dean can't get drunk, Dean can't get high,
but Dean can certainly get a buzz from almost dying apparently.
But yeah, no, never really well, he gets high, he does.
I'm just saying like he doesn't that he doesn't get
that feeling like he does from almost being dead apparently,
because he keeps doing it.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
You're only living if you're almost just like.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
But He's like, Sam, don't drink the demon blood. Meanwhile,
I'm gonna go kill myself and get real real close
to death.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
So I have been watching the Countdown show. I'm only
like two maybe three episodes in, and he in the
show Jensen has Jensen's character has a brain tumor, and
he makes a comment about like you're not living unless
you're dying or you're about to die or something. Somebody's like, what,
oh is that show?
Speaker 1 (08:26):
Is he is he? Are they using him wisely in
that show? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (08:32):
I think they are. I'm not a big fan of
cop shows, so, like you know, I'm not like all in.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
I can't get into those kind of shows either. They're
just kind of same thing over and over in my opinion.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
So and I don't watch everything that these characters are in,
but I kept seeing clips and I kept seeing like
nods to the show.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
Has been championing the show a lot, so I will
give him that. Misha has been a real ro about it.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
But I mean, I'm enjoying it. But again, I think
I'm three episodes in, so I mean it's it's not
a terrible show. But if Jensen wasn't in it, like
they killed Jenson, I will watching.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
It feels as though it's one of those just generic
cop shows, but Jensen's in it, and that's like what
they're hoping to get people on board with.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
Well, one of the things that's nice about it being
a cop show because again I don't love these is
the fact that it's on Prime. So there's cursing in it,
there's actual talking. It's not a seffy kind of show
like so Super.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
Natal rocks Man.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
Yeah, so they're talking about, you know, real things and
you see real stuff and whatnot. But no, I'm enjoying it.
I'm not completely sucked in. And again, if Jensen wasn't it,
I wouldn't be watching it. But I did see a thing.
And so Jensen and Misha were at a con recently
and did a panel together, and apparently when they shot
the scene of Jensen, Misha and Jared for The Boys
season five, they did a take where they pretended to
(09:46):
be Sam, Dean and Castiel. And if that doesn't get
released after the show comes out.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
We riot, I'm sorry, we we just get take it
out up. You're wasting Jensen's talents putting him in an
Amazon Prime cop show when he could be doing so
many other.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
Starts next month.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
It does. I know, I'm just this, he's getting paid,
he's doing what he loves. So this is just me
being a petty bitch and that I just want the man,
either as Batman or I want to see him doing
some dope stuff in cinema. I really feel as though
he should be on I want to watch that man
on the big screen.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
Okay, he could pull I feel like it would be
a good Star Wars too, because like his hair these
days is a little would.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
Honestly if he played like a bounty hunter in a
Star Wars show or movie, that's what I could really
see him doing. He has that bounty hunter demeanor and as.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
He could play a Mandalorian, but he's got to take
his helmet off.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
He shouldn't be a Mandalorian. He should be not. I
don't think, well, that's what I'm saying. I just mean
in some shape or form he should be. I don't.
I think he would be better as somebody, not like
a Jedi. I feel as though he is somebody who
could work done. Yeah, or he's too late. I don't know.
You can portray the.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
Rug because he's not one sided. Maybe we need him
in a proper app Let's.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
Get in Hell's Angel here on episode eighteen, which is
Crowley gets the Horn of Joshua touched by the hand
of God, all while trying to hide from Lucifer's henchmen,
Rowena is trying to quote unquote help Amara, who's not
fully buying it, but now she is actually terrified of Lucifer,
and Crowley still thinks she's dead. Meanwhile, Cassifer heads to
Heaven to rain over the angels. He offers his services
(11:29):
to stop darkness as Crowley, Sam and Dean try to
figure out a plan. Dean and Sam are you over
whether cass should be exercised first or not. Dean, of
course wanting cast safe before Lucifer attacks tomorrow. Rowena spies
on the boys, lies to Amara, saying they're not sure
what to do. Rowena then sends a message to the
boys and Crowley that she is indeed alive. She goes
(11:50):
to them, They summon Cassifer. Dean unsuccessfully tries to pool
casts out, Lucifer walks out of the Ring of Fire.
Crowley possesses casts as well, and he's getting his ass
kicked by Lucifer. As Crowley does, cass is just chilling
watching TV during this Sometimes.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
Mark Philagrino actually shows up in the mind of Jimmy
Novak's body's.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
Back, and Crowley sends a message to help. Sam exercises
Crowley out of cast Lucifer is about done with these knuckleheads.
Almara then shows up, followed by Rowena. Cassifer uses the
horn on Amara and Nada. She then takes Cassifer dips
out peace out. Amara thinks Chuck may show if she
tortures Lucifer. You know, she's trying to get back at
(12:34):
her brother. Her brother's an a hole man. She just Meanwhile,
Rowena really is ending my respect at this point. I
admittedly was not a Rowena fan, but she at this
point is helping out the boys, and she's she really
grew on me. Man around he's eleven.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
I mean, I love that because when you first said
you didn't like Rowena, I was very surprised. But she's
only really.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
Itself until yeah fifteen, Yeah, yeah, I would say that.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
Yeah. And what's cute too, is you know, rewatching some
of this stuff. One knowing how it ends is interesting,
and two like knowing like in this season is when
you first get your scenes with Riena and Chuck together,
knowing they're now like engaged with a baby and stuff
is super cute because they have yeah they are yeah
so and well we'll get to that shortly, but they
have the conversation where the she's flirting with Chuck and
(13:24):
Crowley says, I'm not going to call you dad, and
it's like now they're actually engaged, which is super interesting.
I hope he calls him dad now.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
I that would be amazing, that would be hilarious. And
again I met Ruth at Mega Con. She's such a
sweet lady. Loved her too, and I love her like
this big.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
She's so freaking tiny.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
She is tiny, Yeah, she really is. Man, But what
fun facts did you have for this episode?
Speaker 2 (13:50):
So, Misha Collins, I actually learned this something Then and
Now podcast. He actually asked Mark Pellegrino, who is the
main Lucifer, the you know, the one we know?
Speaker 1 (13:58):
H Yeah, He goes, do you.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
Have any tips on how I can act like you?
Because he wants Yeah. Yeah, And Mark told Nisha that
he is always looking at everyone as if he's trying
to figure out whether he wants to kill them or
have relations with them. That's Mary.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
You can see that actually too. With you see it
a little bit more because Cass kind of has that doe.
I look to him normally. Yeah, And I will say
as Lucifer, you can see he's more pierced with his
eyes and his gaze and everything like that.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
Yeah, he looks down and up more so does Yeah. Yeah,
and his voice is more Misha Collins voice. It's not
the castile voice.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
That's voice is a little higher. Yeah, yeah, like you.
He's just softer talking.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
Which I've heard has not been good for his vocal corse.
I don't know. Misha actually improvised some of the scenes
when he's in heaven, like when he like straddles the
one angel that was improvised and there's another angel in
the background trying not to laugh. It is blurred because
like I read that fun in fact, and I always
like to see those things before I say them same,
But you can like see him kind of in the
background smiling, but it is blurry. He also apparently improvised
(15:09):
the line he who hesitates disintegrates.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
Oh, this is a fantastic.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
Line, man, Come on, Like it is always borders on
the side of like, you know, he sexualized? Is everything?
Is it getting a little FallCon here? Which is extra
hilarious when you learn that Jack's mom is who he
lost his virginity to, So Lucifer's still a virgin at
this point. Look that in mind, he is.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
Well that's topic. But that is typical like virgin talk.
Look at you know, American pie in any media in
the two thousands or I even remember, like as teenagers,
all of us just always constantly making jokes like that,
and a lot of people I knew were all virgin too.
That's like typical virgin talk. I feel like, you know,
like that Broie virgin talk. If that makes it, I
guess it would make more sense if you grew up
(15:54):
in the early two thousands, late nineties, where over that
time period where these jokes were more prevalent and things
like that, and no pop culture. But that's what I
felt and get from that.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
Yeah, it's super cute.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
Lenge take us to the next episode of nineteen.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
So the next episode of nineteen is called The Chitters.
So we start with a flashback of two brothers. The
younger one is talking about a boy he had a
crush on. Well, the older one wants him to be careful,
but they also talk about how they're going to get
out of this judgmental small town they're in. Suddenly the
older brother is something else. He's turned into a monster.
Now we jumped a current time. Dean is obsessing over
finding cast. So Sam again suggests, let's take a case
(16:30):
in the meantime. People are missing, just like they did
twenty seven years ago. In this small town. They talked
to someone who saw something. But however, she was on
a cannabis tour and she was very high. But she
saw eyes that looked weird and it had a junkless crotch.
So that's what she tells Dean. She doesn't say junkless.
Dean volunteer tears that, which is not the first time
he said that, And I have to imagine it is
a nod to Kevin Smith and Dogma because the first
(16:51):
time he used the term junklest was referring to angels.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
Yeah, dude, yes, Okay.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
So she found her friend again, but she was shivering
and chittering, so she's got the chitters. They go and
talk to someone else who lost their husband in the
last bat of disappearances twenty seven years ago. She tells
him that her husband was seen diddling multiple people right
around when he disappeared. He was at diddling other missing persons.
She then tells the boys that once a generation, people
(17:19):
get the chitters and start having orgies in the woods
and never to be seen again because that's what her
grandma told her.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
Oh so that's what happened to Diddy.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
Dean naturally, of course heads to the woods, and of
course he sees some of them.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
Dean said, orgies, I'm in.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
Well, usually musters are stamps thing though not deans. So
Dean's out there and he comes across a monster and
then two other hunters show up to save them, and
it's the young boy who is now all grown up
and his husband. So over some beers, they decide, like,
let's catch up over some beers. Let's find out what
we're fighting. And we learned that their names are Jesse
and Cizarre. Jesse is the younger boy whose older brother
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was turned into a chitter. So they learn a lot
from them because Jesse obviously has become obsessed with this
because his older brother was his saving grace. It was
the only one who he felt wasn't judging him for
being gay, and his brother was trying to get him
out of that very narrow minded town. So they learn
that this is very rare. They're called bison, which is
a cicada spirit, and this is their reproduction cycle. Hassan
(18:16):
need vessels to reproduce Jesse then tells them about his brother,
and then Sam and Jesse go talk to the old
sheriff who was a sheriff during the last bout, and
Dean and Cizar go back to the wood. They actually
find the burrow, and Sam and Jesse learned that the
sheriff had found the borough twenty seven years ago, back
in eighty nine, and his daughter was that he thought
she had just gone back to school. They asked like,
why didn't you report her missing? He's like, I knew
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where she was, and he retired after that, went up
to the woods and just kind of like, you know,
he couldn't move on from that either. Of Course, Jesse's
upset because he's like, dude, you could have told us
we could have ended this twenty seven years ago. Jesse
and Sam then meet up because the sheriff tells them
where the burrow is, and Jesse finds his brother's corpse
and they properly bury him or burn him. They decide
(18:57):
they're going to ask the hunters for help with the
mar So they're like, I think Jesse and Cizzar would
actually be really great in helping with this. They seem
like really good, capable Hunters. However, before they get the chance,
they start talking about how Jesse had agreed that once
they closed this case, he would get some closer and
they could move on and have a normal life. So
they end up not asking because they feel like it
would be wrong, because a hunter making it to the
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finish line without dying is something you don't mess with.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
Well, absolutely it was, and it was heartfelt too because
a lot of Hunters right that are introduced into this
series you don't really get a lot of backstory in
and they're also one dimensional characters, where I feel these
two had some depth to them, right, you know, the
they're out looking for what happened to his brother and
once that's done, hey we can move on. Great, and
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that's kind of they're out, Whereas looking in contrast to
our brothers, Sam and Dean, they don't really have that
ending point.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
Where well, they killed Yellow Eyes, but they kept going so.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
They had their out, they didn't take it. They continued on,
where as Jesse and Caesar Cizar are, Hey, we're taking
the out. Let's get out of this. We can go
build a life now. And so it's things like that
that make this episode good because you do see the
opposite side of the coin and it's looking into a
mirror of what if.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
Yeah, well, I wish we had gotten them back because
I thought that they were both well. First, I would
like to have seen them in something that they weren't
like emotional about. And also we never got Cizar's backstory,
like did he just get into hunting because he found out?
We don't know, because most hunters have a horrible backstory.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
Somebody got killed, somebody they know died, something like that, right.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
Yeah, it's always somebody close to them died. But I
really liked the chemistry too, especially because it was you know,
it would be as if Sam had lost Dean. That's
what it was. It was exactly you know, Jesse lost
his Dean. So I thought this was a fun spin,
like a good break from the overall story. Great to
meet new hunters, which I feel like we really haven't
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met any other hunters in a while.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
We don't in the later seasons. I mean, you don't
get a lot of new hunters that are really worth
while usually when.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
We do their cannon fodder exactly.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
Yeah, still out there, who knows? Yeah, and they are
god the dream. I want to buy a cow so
bad after yesterday cow. That cow. I walked up this cow,
I don't care. This cow like licked my face and
we bonded and it posed up for pictures with me.
It was the cutest thing ever. Man.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
Yeah, it was freakingable.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
This big I went to this tiny little pig and
I started to pet him, and he just laid down
and put up his belly, and I was just like,
oh my god, gosh, I'm a sucker. Anyways, the beer
that Salmon Dean drink with the other Hunters is called
Ellie's Brew, which is a nod to the Blair Witch Project,
whose director Edward or Sanchez also direct. This episode explains
the Woods aspect a lot, right. Yeah, Sheriff Tyson asks
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Salmon Dean if there is a ad case with Spanish
fly going around flu flyye fly. Spanish fly is an
emerald green beetle in the blister beetle family. The Beatles
produce a terrapine called cantharterid in, which is a toss
of blistering agent, but at one time was used as
an aphrodisiac in ancient Greece. Weird man, we didn't have rhinois.
(22:19):
It was common for the ground of carcasses of the
beetle to be ingested before sexual intercourse. Weird. Nature is weird.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
But that was the whole thing that they were using
humans to. They were diddling.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
I don't. I hate that word that one.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
I don't. I'm not.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
I don't like that word. I'm gonna be honest, I
don't like.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
Dean then asks her for like clarifications if they were
having sex, and she's like, what does diddling mean to you?
Speaker 1 (22:42):
I don't like that. Yeah, it's weird. The woman they
interview was also the Western horror with cold sores in
Frontier Land.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
What you don't remember that in Frontier Who when they
went back to like the mid to the western time
to get the phoenix ash?
Speaker 1 (22:58):
Oh no, I do you?
Speaker 2 (23:01):
Yeah? She was, she was covered. She was a poor
definition and I wouldn't call it.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
I know it's I don't know why.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
It's just funny prostitute. Is that better?
Speaker 1 (23:13):
Anyways? Yeah, let's go into episode twenty. Don't call me Shirley.
Come on, man, we know this one. Uh it's human
metatron dumpster diving. Gross. However, he shares his food with
a dog. You're a dog, as he yells that he
gives up. He's suddenly in a bar with Chuck. Before
this is a good episode, mind you. Before learning Chuck
is God, he ships all over the Supernatural books. Chuck
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then shows himself and tells Metatron he wants him to
read his autobiography and that he's never going to be
an angel again. Metatron gives him some tips, most of
which he doesn't love. Cut to the bunker, Dina's ironing
clothes with the beer, and Sam found a case where
he thinks they got some soulless people courtesy of Amara.
The boys go to check it out. The town is
slowly engulfed with a heavy fog, not to be confused
(23:57):
with Tom Welling's Fog movie. Those impacted by the fog
and hear and are controlled by Amara. It's the infection
from when she was first released. Back to Metatron and Chuck,
Metatron tries to convince Truck to stop. Amara tells Chuck
that he's just hiding. He's a scared baby. Chuck's like, no, dude,
I'm not hiding. I'm not watching my experiments fail anymore.
As the fog spreads, an entire town is getting infected.
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Medatron then pleads for Chuck to not give up on
humans because they will never give up. Chuck sings fairthe
Well while Dean's Samuelt lights up. Town is healed. The
boys walk outside, and this is when they find out
that Chuck is God.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
Ohough Dean still doesn't buy it right away.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
This is a good one.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
Yeah, and I love when Chuck reveals himself and it's
maybe it's because I grew up going to church, but
they start singing like Lord of Lords and I love that.
And then yeah, the fairly well. If you enjoy listening
to Chuck saying that fairly well version, there is a.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
Version of that pretty good musician.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
Hey, he's got a band load and swain he does.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
Yeah, he's really solid man.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
And if you ever go to a con and you
buy his CD for twenty dollars, the whole band will
sign the cover, including Chuck himself, whereas pain for just
his signature is more than that. Twenty bucks. You get
a CD God signature twenty bucks.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
God. If I would do that just for the soul
joke that why do you have a CD that's like
sitting on your you know, whatever it is. God signed that,
and then they would be so confused because they probably
haven't seen Supernatural, and I'll be like idiot, God signed it. Chuck.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
Well, when his songs come on my spot, if I
playlist and so on the TV, I tell the children
that God has graced our house with his presence.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
God has spoken.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
They don't find it funny at all.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
Oh gosh. Well, going back to the episode, however, I
do enjoy the old bar. It kind of makes me
feel like it's an old pizza hut. I don't know why.
Maybe it's the boots.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
Oh, it's a significant bar. I don't remember why, and
a lot of the famous son of a nutcracker. I
should have looked for that up.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
Well, they were sitting in the empty bar. And there
is a lot of good exposition written in this episode
between these two. I don't like Metatron, but his actor amazing.
You know, both of them really have a lot of
good exposition, especially when Metatron is finding out that this
is God he's been doing X Y Z and Chuck
basically is giving up on humanity. This is Chuck more
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or less saying humanity end. Yeah, it really is, especially
when he reveals himself to the boys. Because from this
point on, God is essentially a bad guy to these guys.
He doesn't they're they're I mean, obviously we get the
whole episodes where he doesn't they're no longer graced by God,
but this is more or less when he's essentially done
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with them, He's done with humanity, all of that kind
of stuff. And not for nothing. He is kind of
afraid of Mamara because he's an asshole to his sister
and she's back for revenge now, thanks Dean.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
But yeah, yeah, yeah, but I love when he makes
the comment about like, I've recreated Castiel more times than
I can count, and so it fills in some plot
holds two of like you know, how to had cast
come back after he was exploded and who put us
on this does? Yeah, so you always kind.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
Of this answered a lot of my questions. I mean,
I was like, how are these guys always dying coming back?
It's because God literally willed them. God willed it.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
Yeah. Well, and I love the ironing with beer thing.
It's such a small scene and I think it's supposed
to be for us old men, but it's it's such
a perfect example of the fact that Dean raised Sam
but he's still his brother. So it's like he's ironing
his clothes, Like, did Sam ask him to iron his clothes?
Did Dean just do that on his own? Is that
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just what Dean's always done, is iron Sammy's.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
It's a good point, yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
Right beer, because it's his brother he's just.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
Doing I don't know why. It feels very just old
man like where he's just with the beer ironing. I
guess it. I grew up iron. I don't iron anything.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
My hair straightener.
Speaker 1 (27:59):
Oh that's a good I have a I have a steamer.
That's what I used to basically iron anymore.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
I do have an iron, but I only use it
to like make cooozies and stuff with that.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
I do have an iron still for rare occasions. It
just reminds me more or less of my birth dad
ironing his military uniform BDUs back in the day, or
like my grandpa also ironing his uniform back in the day.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
There's a lot of ironing back in the day.
Speaker 1 (28:20):
Well, yeah, you had to iron them all and starts
him and all that kind of stuff. But you don't
do that anymore.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
I don't even know what starch starch.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
It's like starts to make it. So like if once
you iron it and you starts it, it keeps that
iron like that crease. So say you like crease back
in the day, you still have on military basically hairspray
for clothes a spray.
Speaker 2 (28:40):
Yeah, so, you know, I always imagined it was like
pancake mix.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
Well in you think in a corn starch, that's probably okay.
But you would have your military uniforms that you would iron,
and they would always love the When military had their
chevrons on their sleeves, they would always iron. The crease
in the arms would always be ironed, so that way
was like folded in half essentially, and they would start
stuff like that to make it stay. So it's essentially
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hairspray for your freaking clothes. I don't know, it's stupid,
don't I had.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
To wear a suit every day. I just dry cleaned everything.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
That's fair. Yeah, all right, Well, do you have any
fun facts? Before we moved to episode twenty one, do
I have infects?
Speaker 2 (29:19):
I do? I have quite a few, Sonatron Chuck says
he was busy writing another book series called Revolution. Revolution
was actually a TV show written by Eric Kriske, who
is the creator and writer of Supernatural. I Love They
still kept Kripke like very close to home. Because of this,
he wasn't a showrunner anymore so. The fake agent names
in this episode that the Winchesters use are Greer and
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a Heart, which are the names of the band or
names of people from the band Kansas who sing Carryong,
the unofficial theme song of Supernatural. The title of this
episode is a play on a running joke from the
nineteen eighty two comedy film Airplane, which are we getting
another one with Liam Neeson?
Speaker 1 (29:56):
No, that's that's that's naked Gun. Naked Gun, which is
out I think in the next couple of weeks. Yeah,
that's what they've been promoting pretty heavily. Yes, I was like, wait, no,
for a second, I thought you said Leslie.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
I think I need to because.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
Is the one doing naked Gun now along with Pamela Anderson.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
She's also Leslie Nelson. Isn't he the original one?
Speaker 1 (30:19):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (30:19):
Yes, all right, so I always get it, I think, Yeah, okay,
So anyways, in Airplane, a character says, when told something
that was hard to accept, he says, surely you can't
be serious, to which she responds, I am serious.
Speaker 1 (30:30):
Just reminds me of the legal ad you. I don't
know if you remember the legal ad, but there was
this whole thing is they just do awful movie quotes
and Carrie hated it.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
Oh, it was terrible. I don't know what you're talking about.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
Yes, it was like before I was still living in Idaho. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
before they started putting stupid soda ads and then the
previews and then yeah, and they.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
Were quoting like the no I'm glad.
Speaker 1 (30:55):
I yeah, you can't sit with us, right no?
Speaker 2 (31:00):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (31:00):
No? Oh man. Yes, So Chuck actually tells Metatron that
the last time he saw you a look like that
on an editor's face, he had just handed in Bugs,
which is of course of nod to Bugs being one
of the most poorly rated episodes of Supernatural. Actually, bothlines
is number one. The finale is number three. Oof. Imagine
being the finale being your worst rated episode.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
But Leslie Nielsen is in Airplane, but he's also a
naked gun, which is probably why I get them give back.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
That's most likely why. Yeah, he did both. Now we're
just gonna get Liam Neeson doing Airplane next. After the gun.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
There he go.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
Yes, Liam Neeson has moved off from the Taken to
in qui gon Jin and now he's just doing parodies
of movies, which for him. They get the bag, dude,
get the bag now. Episode twenty one, All in the Family,
we pick right up with Chuck again. As Dean doubts
Chuck is God, he snaps them to the bunker. Kevin
suddenly appears. Ah, this is sad. Chuck moves Kevin from
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the veil to what looks like Heaven. We then learn
later it is actually hell. Jane replies, yes, Kevin Dice, Yeah,
when you were always telling me that Kevin has a
really sad backstory.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
Like no, I gets sotter, No, he gets otder.
Speaker 1 (32:10):
How does it get worse? Well, guess what. Kevin gets
sent to hell because God's a dick, and Dean replies
with a proper holy crep. As Samon Dean process what
is going on. Dean asks him where the hell he's
been and why is he saying so silent. Chuck explains
how much he used to step in and it did nothing,
so he decided to step away. As Dean continues to
(32:31):
blame Chuck, he tells Dean not to confuse him with
his father. This is when they then cut to Amara
torturing Cassifer. Yeah, back to Chuck in the brain boys
are brainstorming. Amara shows herself to Dean in the bunker
with a very beat up Cassifer and a new prophet
has awakened. This is Donna Tello. This guy's a trip man.
Donna Tello is such a weird trip inclusion, but he's
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around to like the whole thing. So named after the
sculpture not the Ninja turtle. Okay. While talking to Donnazello,
Amara shows herself again to Dean, saying she needs to
talk to him. They take Donnie Donnie Boy to the
bunker where Chucker, Chuck, her Geesezok is watching TV and
eating Chinese and his underwear. Metatron reaches out tells the
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boys that Chuck is going to give in to Amara.
Dean then confronts him, and Chuck says that he's gonna
do that only if a Mara spares the world. All right, okay,
we can work with this. As Dean questions, Chuck explains,
that's why he has saved Mean all those years ago.
He and the other chosen Ones are his firewall between
light and darkness. Dean then insists it has to be
Chuck so to get Castifer from Amara. Dean reaches out
(33:37):
to distract her. She tells him she wants to be
wants him to be a part of her. Dude, she
took the deal man, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
No, but him disappearing like her, the couch disappearing in her.
Speaker 1 (33:48):
Yeah, I know, I know, okay, Medaitron, Sam and Donnie
get Castifer. Amara then realizes this is a distraction. As
others try to leave, Metatron attempts to redeem himself. He
stays behind the stop her and this is when he dies.
You're supposed to care, but you don't. Almara stops baby
(34:10):
Chuck teleports the whole car.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
I feel like, okay, so with Metatron, and like Dean
even says it, he's like, wow, Metatron took one for
the team. I didn't see that coming. I don't think
we were supposed to be like wow, what a good
guy in the end.
Speaker 1 (34:23):
I absolutely hope not, because well, Metatron was never a
good dude. They have spent seasons upon seasons explaining to
us that Metatron was such a dick and he was awful.
That does death died? He just dies and I think
almost though, and sometimes art Sorry, go ahead, I'm getting
(34:45):
into it. Oh, I was just saying that, like sometimes
in art they just have that unceremonious death that I
actually think it's kind of one of those where you're
not even relieved, it's just oh that it's it's the
sometimes the perfect ending to a character that is such
an ahle who thinks there's so much more important than
they are that when they die in such a just
wet balloon kind of way, Yeah, that's the death he deserved.
(35:09):
And I do almost feel like that's what they're kind
of were going for. There wasn't supposed to invoke any
reaction from us. It was he's dead, okay anyways.
Speaker 2 (35:18):
And it was just kind of like, huh, we didn't
see that coming.
Speaker 1 (35:21):
No, no, no, we didn't at all.
Speaker 2 (35:24):
But it was interesting because he just wanted to save
humanity because he enjoyed the books, he enjoyed the enjoyed
what humanity created, but it never made him love humanity
until he thought humanity.
Speaker 1 (35:34):
Was going to be taken away, which is you don't
know what you have until it's gone. Based one of
those things you know. Your fun fact here that the
title is from a sitcom in the seventies. It's also
a corn song which features Fred Durst from limb Biscuit. Uh.
You know, I sometimes I get in these I don't
even know what kind of moods where I'm just I
need to listen to limb Biscuit.
Speaker 2 (35:54):
And it's just I like them.
Speaker 1 (35:57):
It's just one of those days.
Speaker 2 (35:58):
You're based.
Speaker 1 (36:04):
Oliver loves break Stuff and Carrie for the first time.
How does he know that? And I go, that's my fault.
I was playing in the car and he's there singing it,
and I'm just, you know, whatever.
Speaker 2 (36:12):
Man had the other day and Josh and I were yelling,
we break face. So yes, the whole Kevin scene that
was very interesting because I feel like God was being
very passive aggressive and he is like, look, I'm doing
something to that. I'm on your side. Kevin vouches for him,
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and then he sends him to Hell, which is.
Speaker 1 (36:36):
A messing dude. And again this is when you're really
sitting there like, dude, GOD'SID.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
But we don't know that for literally years.
Speaker 1 (36:45):
We don't know that Kevin got sent to Hell. We
don't know what happened.
Speaker 2 (36:48):
And he was kind of guilted by Metatron to go
help him. So I feel like he was like fine,
I'll make it look like I'm helping, but I'm not
actually going to help. I'm going to sell her little
Kevin advanced placement to Hell. I mean, at least for
Kevin defense. He got some good street cred because not
many people get sent to Hell directly by God.
Speaker 1 (37:04):
True. But also like Kevin doesn't deserve any it is
no crazy.
Speaker 2 (37:10):
Have you assume that Jack took Kevin out of the
veil again and properly put him in heaven, And that
is one of the characters. I truly feel if they
had been able to give the proper twenty twenty ending
they wanted to before COVID scene and then with missus Tran.
Speaker 1 (37:27):
This is why we need it to reboot for a
few more seasons, all of us, can I know? We
all anyways?
Speaker 2 (37:35):
So also I thought it was very interesting because when
Dean is talking to God, when when Chuck is like
you're my firewall, Dean's like, I give me a vampire.
I'm good, I can't go up against the darkness. Well, Dean, no,
a vampire ends up killing you, which.
Speaker 1 (37:49):
God boilers all right, episode twenty two, we happy for you,
which is appropriate after talking about that death and finale
while Dean and Sam try to get Lucifer and Chuck
to talk so that they can take down Amara. Crowley
is back and he's trying to make Hell great again.
Oh boy, one hundred percent tariffs on anybody improperly sent
(38:11):
to Hell from God. Chuck then explains to Lucifer that
he gave him the Mark because he thought he could
handle it when it corrupts him his favorite son. He
punished Lucifer, so in a roundabout way, they make up,
but not really. They make up enough to work together.
They strategize. Dean gets Crowley, Cast comes out to get
the Angels. They also then get Rowena and her powerful
(38:33):
witch friends. Meanwhile, Amara is torturing Donnie takes his soul,
so now she knows where everybody's at, and she ends
up at the bunker, sees a picture of Dean and Mary.
Rowena reaches out to lure Amara in and they all
attack at once. Seek attack pockets hand or pocket Witch
well with the plan to have Sam carey the mark.
(38:54):
This time, they attack Amara is then weekend. Chuck is apologetic,
but as he goes to cage her again, she grabs him,
pulls Lucifer out of Cast takes the sun away in
vows to destroy it all.
Speaker 2 (39:08):
I think she took the sun away, that's what is implied, Yes,
but it's really just because Chuck is dying. Duh. But
I mean, I feel like we've seen that before. It's like,
don't put me back in that cage. Kill me before
you do that. I will not go back in that cage.
And I don't blame her. She was alone for like,
I mean, that's a long solitary confinement. All right, So
some fun fact that's true, Crowley saying, let's make hell
(39:29):
grade again. This episode came out in May of twenty sixteen,
when Trump was running with the slogan make America Great Again,
so that was an intentional nod to that. The title
of this episode, We Happy Few is a direct quo
quote from the play Henry the Fifth by William Shakespeare.
It is from the pre battle speech that King Henry
the Fifth delivers right before the Battle of Agincourt, often
referred to as quote the Saint Kripston Chrispin's Day speech
(39:53):
end quote. The full line from the speech is we few,
we happy few, we band of brothers. Henry is delivering
this speech to his men and f to try to
express love for them, try to hype them up and
really try to get them going, because he knows they're
severely outnumbered by the French army, and he also knows
that the French army is better prepared because they've been
traveling through the night and all this stuff. So yeah,
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it's like, hey, we know where we are the we're
the underdog. When Amar rips Lucifer out of cast, you
can actually see Mark Pellogrino's face for a second. Check
this because I did not pick that up. So I'm
like watching it on my phone. I'm like Playpaus, Playplas, playplas,
and I'm like, ohh yeah, there you can.
Speaker 1 (40:31):
That's cool. Yeah, I love little details like that.
Speaker 2 (40:35):
Yeah, Chuck mentions in this episode, which I thought was
very interesting. This is not a fun fact. This is
something I noticed. He can't bring Gabriel back because they're like,
you know what about arch angels, And he's like, well,
I can't bring Gabriel back. They're like, you brought cast
back so many times. He's like, arch angels are hard
to rebuild. Gabriel is not dead, he's trapped in hell.
Speaker 1 (40:55):
Yeah yeah, what oh god?
Speaker 2 (40:57):
That guy was a trip to So I thought that
that was very interesting that Chuck can't pick up that
Gabeu is still alive.
Speaker 1 (41:04):
I assume I thought that was interesting too, because he
comes back later down the road again.
Speaker 2 (41:08):
Yes, yeah, because he Yeah, because he's around when Jack
is around. He needs to And I love when Chuck
calls Roweno one of his guilty pleasures because that is
now his soon to be a wife and baby mama.
Speaker 1 (41:21):
That's true, that is true. Yeah, this this sets up.
You're basically thinking the sun is gone? Oh god, how
did they get out of this? Amara has been pissed off,
which leads us into the finale, which is Alpha and Omega.
They are all licking their wounds. Chuck can feel his
light is fading, and cass d l is back. Chuck
snaps him back to the bunker, and Dean pulls out
(41:42):
a six pack, as one probably should do at this point,
because what else you're going to do? Right? Uh? You know?
Speaker 2 (41:47):
So we had laundry of iron the truth.
Speaker 1 (41:51):
He's ironing so many laundries. Cassan Dean go for a
ride where Dean tails cass he's their brother. Back to bunker.
This was a good sweet moment where between did and
cast Bay the way. That's why when cass is telling
Dean he loves him that I never took it as
anything more like some of those people who write fan
fiction did, because it's Dean saying you did. You're our brother,
we love You're my brother. Anakin.
Speaker 2 (42:13):
Misha Collins has come out and said that this was
the Castiel is gay, that this was a perfect Oh.
Speaker 1 (42:18):
I haven't that is okay, Well never mind, I didn't care.
I don't carry the way. But that's just how.
Speaker 2 (42:23):
I even said, you're the one thing I want, the
one thing I want. I know I can't have. Osa's
come out and clarified no, he was in love with
Dean and they in fact, oh could you not be?
Or Misha knew, I want to say, a year and
a half before it was filmed, but Jensen didn't know until,
like I don't know a few months before it was
(42:45):
filmed that they were going in that direction. So they
ran out by the boys before they actually took it
in that direction.
Speaker 1 (42:50):
Spoiler alert. Anyways, Chuck is dying, so now that they
can kill Amara and quickly because the son is dying,
Rowena comes up with the idea for a ghost bomb kaboom,
So the boys go ghost busting to collect They.
Speaker 2 (43:03):
Really do, because they're like, it's like they might as
well have the thing from ghost I know.
Speaker 1 (43:08):
Billy sees them busting ghosts right before the credits.
Speaker 2 (43:11):
Are about to roll feel good.
Speaker 1 (43:13):
She's very curious, so she shows up to the bunker
helps them get more souls. Meanwhile, Amara is talking to
a human and looks sad. As the world begins to
die off, Dean offers to be the bomb as Rowena.
He is the bomb to be fair as Roena puts
all of the ghosts inside of him, the ghost inside
great band. Now, the boys have a moment at their
(43:33):
mom's tombstone. Then, foreshadowing, Dean says by to cast and
Sam and Chuck sends him off. She senses the bomb immediately.
They then talk it out. Dean talks about his family
because he you know, of course he's gonna show up
in Fast and Furious eleven. Amara summons Chuck heals him.
They then bond, and Chuck takes the bomb out of
his chest and says that they're leaving Earth. Leaving and
(43:53):
Earth will be fine because it has Dean and Sam,
Chuck and Amara vanish but not before Amara says that
Dean gave her what she needed. Oh, she wanted to
return the favor back at the Bunker, the asshole British lady,
blast cast yell away, take Sam cut the Dean. He
finds Mary in a nightgown. God, this was such a
(44:14):
great episode until Mary Winchester came back. Because I spent
all the season.
Speaker 2 (44:18):
The freaking mental Letters, and I hated that lady. I
hated that.
Speaker 1 (44:20):
I also hated the British mena Letters storyline. Okay, everybody
has beef with the freaking Leviathan's, but my beef is
with this whole Mena Letters storyline in Mary Winchester. Okay,
no offense to the actress.
Speaker 2 (44:36):
Oh, I don't love Mary Winchester all.
Speaker 1 (44:38):
No.
Speaker 2 (44:38):
I love Samantha Smith.
Speaker 1 (44:40):
Samantha Smith, You're great, Honey, You're great. Oh my god.
I could have done without the British men of Letters
that entire storyline, because then it gives us that douchebag,
and then it gives us this annoying ass lady. She
is so annoying.
Speaker 2 (44:54):
I hate her so much.
Speaker 1 (44:55):
I distinctly remember texting you how much I hated her.
Speaker 2 (45:00):
Mm hm.
Speaker 1 (45:01):
Anyways, I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (45:02):
I've heard people make comments of like, I think it's
really funny that season eleven of Supernatural, the big bad
villain is just British people. But what's funny is like, so,
at this time I was still watching on Netflix, so
I wasn't fully caught up. Season eleven, though, was airing
at the time when I was still catching up, and
so I saw like a trailer when I was watching
(45:25):
Er or something. I saw a trailer and it was
this British lady and Sam in bed together because she
was messing with his mind. And I'm thinking, like, oh,
Sam has a girlfriend. Oh that's fun. And then when
I ast the episode, I'm.
Speaker 1 (45:35):
Like, Sam, at your girlfriend? Dude? Who dude girlfriend?
Speaker 2 (45:43):
She?
Speaker 1 (45:44):
Oh my? Yeah. It was like a heartfelt ending, although
you still I didn't fully hate God yet at this point,
but I didn't.
Speaker 2 (45:52):
We weren't supposed to.
Speaker 1 (45:54):
Kind There was some armor cracks, you know, cracks on
the armor there, and so you're essentially like, m all right,
and then Aamara disappears for sure, Okay, well cool, great,
But then yeah, dude, I don't I'm not looking forward
to season twelve because I do not like these people
at all. I like thirteen, thirteen, fourteen good, fifteen was
(46:16):
great and then the finale. But I mean season twelve
wasn't bad. There's good episodes. I just do not for
this storyline.
Speaker 2 (46:24):
I think one of the things I hate about Mary
too is she was very cold to cast Yeah, and
it was like your son's bound. He would lay down
his life for your sons, which he's done before, and
not just Dean, he'd lay down his life for Sam too,
and like you're still like hesitant, like we're still and
then she's like, oh the demon and his witch mother
back the fuck off, bitch.
Speaker 1 (46:45):
Oh God, I just hate Mary Winchester.
Speaker 2 (46:48):
Well, just be some venting.
Speaker 1 (46:51):
Season twelve is gonna be cathartic for everybody, unless you
know some.
Speaker 2 (46:54):
People are like, well she she was used to being
in heaven with her four year old and her infant,
and like this is her four year old and her infant.
Speaker 1 (47:01):
Yeah it is, yeah, Yeah, we'll get there.
Speaker 2 (47:06):
I think my favorite. I do want to mention this
because anytime we talk about the Book of the Dumned,
I have to say it the way Dean says it,
how Rowena says it, because I love that He's like, oh,
but all those blimey ghosts and with the Book of
the Dumned, and I just I love that.
Speaker 1 (47:19):
I do. I agree, I agree that I love Dean
man I just again, I love Rowena. So it's to me,
it's more of like an endearing mocking even though it's
probably kind.
Speaker 2 (47:30):
Of they're starting to come around to her at that point, I.
Speaker 1 (47:33):
Think, exactly getting close together, because before Dean would just
like top crapt her and try to kill her, but
now he's actively mocking her in a sense that it's like, okay, yeah,
you know Dean.
Speaker 2 (47:44):
And Sam kind of looks at him like, what are
you doing. I love how Sam and Rowena's relationship develops.
Speaker 1 (47:49):
I really do too. That is one of my favorite
things about these back Half seasons is the relationship that
Sam and Rowena have together. I do love that, and
I wish there was more because it's she almost becomes
that motherly figure to him. She's they're very good together.
I don't know why. I would have loved to have
seen more of them together.
Speaker 2 (48:09):
Yeah, they are good together. I did love that as well.
If she became like a mentor. Yeah, I loved when
they brought Eileen back too. I mean we're jumping ahead.
Speaker 1 (48:17):
I don't even get me started.
Speaker 2 (48:20):
Sam's wife.
Speaker 1 (48:21):
Yes, and I was already on a soapax talking about
how I hate the British Mint letters. So we can
end there. Go ahead, we're done with season eleven. We
will move to season twelve as we work our way
through summer. We have until September for the twentieth anniversary.
Speaker 2 (48:33):
We got four seasons to dowel.
Speaker 1 (48:36):
We gotta get moving. Then, all right, we're gonna get moving.
All right. We are for you guys and for us
the twentieth anniversaries in September. We will get there. Make
sure you check out our episode this coming Monday on
the Fantastic Four comic book origins. You can find us
on social media. Make sure to like, subscribe, share, join
us on discord, Patreon, dot com, slash Hopsky News is
where we're at and comes top Supernatural. There's not enough
(48:58):
supernatural talk in our our discord for us to you know,
I want more of it. I do, because I do
want to talk.
Speaker 2 (49:04):
All docs, but we haven't finalized exactly what our topic
is going to be that we're going to submit to
megicn too. I feel like I had an idea during Megicon,
and I forgot I.
Speaker 1 (49:11):
Haven't, so I've been looking and they haven't. They don't
have their press or panel stuff up yet, right, But
we should absolutely solidify this beforehand.
Speaker 2 (49:20):
Yeah, so we're ready to talk.
Speaker 1 (49:22):
So where we are going to be back at Megicon?
Unfortunately San Diego didn't work out. I am bummed about that.
But the next convention, maybe you'll see us. Who knows
what's going on where. I don't think I have any
more conventions. Lauren doesn't for the rest of this year.
Speaker 2 (49:36):
My next invention might be Magic on in March.
Speaker 1 (49:38):
It might be March. We were looking at C two
E two, but it's all within the same week of
each other, so not going to be able to make
that work. But who knows what's on the horizon?
Speaker 2 (49:46):
You want to panel makes more sense.
Speaker 1 (49:48):
You can also just like let your conventions know that
you want us to host a panel. That would be
cool if you did. Anybody people that listen to this,
If you're like, hey, I would love a supernatural panel
hosted by Matt and.
Speaker 2 (49:58):
Lauren, Like who the hell are Matt Lauren.
Speaker 1 (50:00):
They'll be like what And then you just link our
stuff and we're talking supernatural and listen. I don't want
to brag, but we tend to get supernatural.
Speaker 2 (50:08):
Come on, man, we got tend to get like ten
people in there, no more than ten because we are
like us.
Speaker 1 (50:17):
You're right, we get my mom. Anyways, come on, Lauren,
God dang, it was running our street. Cred the three
people that listen to us. If you want to see
us at a con, let us know otherwise. We'll be
at Mega Con in March, but we'll talk to you
about supernatural and all these other good stuff soon. Peace Out,
Girl Scout
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