Ep#30 HoP updates

Me talking in the car not sure on this way of doing it but if you want to hear more let me know i might try doing them more regularly.

 

Episode Transcript

SPEAKER_00 (00:00):
So hey guys, what's going on?
Haven't done one of these forquite a while.
Obviously been quite busy, justwith life stuff, plus just track
stuff.
Pretty much the only time I'vegot spare is here in the car, so

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that's where I'm recording thisone from.
So hopefully the sound andeverything like that, it's all
good.
Yeah, well, hopefully it is,because if it's not, by the time
I put it on the computer, Iwon't be putting it up, so you
won't hear this anyway.
So, yeah, obviously just beingthere, yeah, pretty flat out
with work, and then not having ajob there for a few weeks was

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still sort of flat out, andthen, yeah, pretty much heaps of
people asking me about thepodcast and stuff, but, yeah,
pretty much burnt througheverything local and, like,
just...
Like, you know, the other weekat the Australian Speed Car
Tour, people were like, oh,there's heaps of people here you
could do one with, but it'slike, you know, when's anyone
going to have a spare couple ofhours on race weekend or that to

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do one?
It just sort of doesn't workout.
It's not viable.
So, yeah, don't really knowwhere it's heading.
The last time I did a solo one,I got some pretty good feedback,
so we'll see how we go.
Might keep plugging away atthese now that the off-season is
well and truly here.
So, yeah.

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So, obviously, yeah, been toquite a few Australian titles
this year, been quite lucky inthat regard.
I was going to put out a podcastafter the Australian Sprint Car
title, but I sort of just didn'twant to drag all that up again
and, you know, kick any of thatconversation off again.
It just is what it is.
It's been gone, run and done,and, yeah.

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And if I'm being quite honest, Idon't even know what really went
wrong and what happened.
Like, night two was killer.
Night two was fine.
There's no issues there.
It's just obviously, yeah,there's issues on night one and
yeah, it is what it is.
But yeah, run done down.
No real point in talking aboutit.
And then, yeah, it was obviouslylucky enough to get to the

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wingless title in Mildura.
That was absolutely killer.
That was such good racing allweekend.
Like, yeah, I know a lot ofpeople bag wingless, but yeah.
The racing was absolutely onpoint there all weekend.
So, I was actually quite amazedat how well presented the
vehicles were too.
Like, you know, like I think alot of people, if you've been

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around the speedway a long time,you remember, you remember
wingless being the NOS sprintsand they sort of really were
like farmer's cars.
But now, like honestly, there'sonly like one or two bad looking
cars there at the title.
Like, and I'm still sure thatthey still had good parts on
them.
Like, But some of the cars, theway that they turned out, it's

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just absolutely amazing.
It's like credit to those guyswho put all the effort in to
make everything look so good onthem.
And then, yeah, obviously TysonMartin getting the job done
there at what's technically hishometown.
Absolutely belter.
He's just so fast.
Once he's out in front, it'sjust so hard to catch.

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So full credit to everythingthose guys are doing there and
that team there as well.
I know there's a lot of stuffthat got said about them
cheating and stuff, but, I mean,they've passed multiple street
hearings with that vehicle, andthere's been no issues, so,
yeah, it is what it is.
They've stopped talking now, so,and then, yeah, obviously, we

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got to the super title as well.
That was cool.
Seeing supers at Bordertown wasactually, like, killer as well.
Seeing something a little bitslower there than sprint cars,
it was good to see, like,There's, I think there's one
point there in the feature,there's about like five wide,
which is like just killer tosee.
So, can't wait to get back toBordertown, hopefully next

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season.
There's a few rumblings on somestuff happening there, so we'll
see how that all pans out.
And then, yeah, obviously yougot to back to Mildura to see
the, oh, actually before that,you got to Murray Bridge for the
Australian speed car title,so...
And anyone who's had anything todo with speed cars in either New

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South Wales or SA knows how gooda job Alison Dwyer does with
everything that she does.
Absolutely puts her heart andsoul into speed cars.
And yeah, just sort of thelittle like, I think like
gimmicky is kind of like thewrong word to use, but like all
the stuff that she had the ideaof like making those cutouts of
the cars and stuff to hand outto the crowd, like that was like

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just so good, like to see allthat stuff.
and i can guarantee you're gonnasee so many tracks pinching that
idea and there'll be so manypeople doing it now but yeah as
long as people know that allisonwas the first so just all those
little things make the eventsort of come together and yeah
and then like i know thatobviously there's some

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conjecture around that eventthat you got cut seven laps
short but you know like I'm kindof torn, because I know that in
one way, the top three was notchanging, but then you also
don't know that, you know, it'sracing, anything could happen in
seven laps.
Like, I get that, I understandit, but, I mean, that top three

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was pretty well locked in, runand done.
Like, yeah.
I feel sorry for some of theguys that were back further.
Like, you know, some of thoseguys changing positions means a
hell of a lot to go from eighthto fifth in an Australian title
or a finishing place.
I mean, like...
yeah just i don't know it's justone of those things it is what

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it is like and that's on formula500 feature before it probably
didn't help with the eight redsthat they had and yeah and like
i mean even they got laps caughtoff them but yeah it's just once
again it's one of those thingsit's run done it's done now it's
been declared an event so yeahis what it is right i'm sure all

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the uh speaker committee membersare going to have fun at their
agm but you yeah is what it isso and then yeah luckily we uh
we ventured back to new jura uhright there they say spring cars
but yeah the national umproduction modified title was on
at the same time um talk aboutpresentation the way that those

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cars are presented so great likejust the effort those guys go
above and beyond with some ofthe way they present those cars
like the Yeah, it was justkiller to see that grand parade.
It's just so good.
That's one of the things thatthe sedan classes do so well.
Those grand parades just work sowell.
Obviously a little bit harder insprint cars, I know, because

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they're not self-starting.
So the way they can just parkall the guys up and start them
and they all sort of take offtogether is absolutely killer to
see.
And it's just, yeah, it's verylike vivid to see it, all the
different colors and stuff likethat and all the different,
obviously different cars too.
You know, there's, it's notjust, you know 20 sprint cars
out there it's like you knowthere's like 80 different types
of cars out there it's like youknow Camaro and a couple of

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Mercs there's a Lexus and youknow the RX-8 and you know just
different different stuff it'snot all just Falcons and
Commodores so yeah it's great tosee that and obviously the to
see the McDonald I've never seenthe McDonald brothers race in
person either so to see themrace in person it's like man
it's um unreal it's like I don'tknow how they race to like

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together like that as brothersit's like you know if the cars
were like different colors orsomething like that you wouldn't
even think that they were like ateam as such because there's
just they there's certainly nolike oh you're my brother in
racing or anything like thatthey're going hard at it to like
beat each other there's no yeahit's definitely um once they've

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strapped the helmet on it's likebecause yeah they're here to
race and not mess about so yeahit was great great to see that
as well so yeah and then umobviously been a pretty big
season for us too like covered alot of events like we've gone
did pretty much nearlyeverything in sa spring car wise

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i don't think we actually yeahwe didn't miss an sa spring car
operator show this yearobviously i've taken over the
socials there and running thathelping helping them out with
that um hopefully i've broughtthe um brought that up for life
a bit better than where it wasat and yeah so yeah definitely

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didn't miss an SA Sprint Carshow and then yeah got a bunch
of wingless shows in as well andyeah then we ventured to
Bordertown for Supers and thenonto the Mount with Supers as
well so that was actually twogreat nights of racing that
second night of the Mount hadthe feature done by 8.40 so that
was cool but unfortunately ournight didn't end until 2.30 in

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the morning but that's anotherstory so Yeah.
Actually, I really love Supers.
Like, I'm not just a sprint carguy.
Like, anyone who's listenedbefore and stuff knows I'm not
just about sprint cars.
It's like I'm just a Speedwayfan.
So if I get the opportunity togo watch someone else race and,
you know, it's a good qualityfield, I'm interested regardless

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sort of thing.
So, yeah, it's pretty cool tosee that.
And then, yeah, obviously we didall Classic.
We did all the Speed Week aswell.
That was...
That was a bit of a tough girl.
We were in the van for the weekfollowing that.
And then obviously, yeah, went abit haywire on the way home

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because Womba had done such agood job of running the show in.
I figured that we could justdrive home that night back to
Adelaide and make it.
But yeah, unfortunately, akangaroo had a different idea.
And yeah, that kind of stoppedthe idea of getting home there.
And then I ended up spending anextra couple of days in Magamia
trying to sort that out.

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That was one of the joys ofracing, and I don't even race.
So, it is what it is, though.
Can't do nothing about it.
And then, yeah, sort of,obviously, the Adelaide 500,
too.
Like, what an event that was.
That was hard to put inperspective.
Like, there's just so many coolthings that came from it, and

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they're not even to do with,like, the racing per se.
Like, they were...
just the little things are likepeople not seeing spring cars
for the first time you know someof the guys letting just fans
just walk through a trailerbecause obviously they don't get
that luxury in their supercarsso some of the people you know

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see that and see that you knowyou can do that week in week out
with us you know they were sortof mind blown by it like seen
some cool stuff like CoreyMcCullough had a couple of
school classes sit down and hegave him a little education
lesson on what a sprint car isand they all got to sit in and
have a photo and stuff and itwas just like you know he's made
memories for those kids thatthey're not gonna sort of ever
forget and he's probably made acouple of race fans for life as

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well so there's just there's allthose things to do with the
racing as well that it wasn'tthe racing that was the product
kind of thing that was just youknow stuff like that is
invaluable to our sport and justknow people walking around
through the pit all day andstuff but yeah it was killer i
can't wait for next yearhopefully that's all going ahead

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um i'm sure there's some bigthings to come out about that
soon um and then yeah hopefullywe get a gig there again this
year and yeah so i can't waitfor that and then uh yeah well
obviously we got australian uhspring car titles back in Miami
this year as well so that's a SASprint Car Run show so yeah

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hopefully get a bit of a gigthere and yeah I don't haven't
really got plans going into nextseason yet probably need a need
to probably drop a few shows offbecause financially it's sort of
starting to hurt a little bitnot you know not making money
out of doing this so yeah we'llsee what happens got to do a bit

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of planning but yeah I've got aum A few things in the works.
I'm probably going to have areal crack at the merch side of
things too.
So we'll see what happens there.
I've got a few designs going onand stuff like that.
But I don't know.
I'm a bit...
I'm pretty torn on it because Idon't want to be...
I don't want to invest so muchthat I've then got to like...

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I have to sell it to make mymoney back kind of thing.
I don't...
I just really don't want to godown that route.
So I don't know if I'm going todo like a print to order or
like...
I don't know.
But then I have this thingabout, like, if you've got to do
print to order and wait to getthe merch in your hand, like,
hiding with your monies.
Like, I don't do it personallybecause it's like I'm paying for
something and I'm not getting mygoods straight away.

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So, I wouldn't want to expectanyone else to do it.
So, I don't know.
We'll see what happens.
One of the biggest things is Iget asked about hats all the
time.
So, let me know what sort ofmerch you want to see and I'll
have a look at it and have athink.
But, yeah.
So, um...
Yeah.
I don't know.
I'm so torn on the whole merchthing.

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It's no different to a team thatstarts doing merch.
They've got to...
You've really got to sell it.
Otherwise, you just end upeither giving it away or, like,
yeah.
You see some blokes sellingstuff that's two years old
because they've invested themoney in it.
And, yeah, I just don't want tobe...
I don't want to be that guy.
So, yeah.
I don't know.

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We'll see.
See what happens.
So...
But, yeah, I know that we'regoing to...
Yeah, sort of definitely have alook at what we're going to do
going into next season.
Because I think, or I don'tthink, I know I got lost in
YouTube this season.
Not sort of, I've sort of knownwhere my lane is, to be honest.

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I don't know where I fit in inthe whole landscape.
Like, it seems to like, youknow, if you document the whole
day, people don't watch it.
But then people want to seebehind the scenes stuff.
They don't want to see too muchracing because they've either
watched the racing on Cloudviewor they were there at the event
in person.
So then them sitting therewatching the racing again is
like, oh yeah, I've seen that.

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So I don't really know where andwhat to go in capturing these
events that we're going to, ifI'm being completely honest.
Seems like one of the biggestthings at the moment social
media wise is just making reels.
But I mean, I don't really wantto go to these events just to be

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a guy that creates reels.
I'm not, yeah, I don't reallywant to be doing that either.
So yeah, I'm not, not sure.
Sort of got to sit back and havea think about it.
And yeah, I think probably thehard thing too, is that
sometimes we've been to, been tothese events and we've, you
know, we filmed what we thoughtwas killer stuff and then you

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get it in the computer and itjust hasn't worked out or trying
to, you know, put together anight's worth of video.
It, you know sometimes it's ahard timeline to try and get
something together so it's likeyeah i'll sort of i guess i'm
just trying to look for a formatand then i'll stick to that
format because that's you knowpeople are going to watch

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because of a format not justbecause you know each video is
sort of random or or whatever soyeah i don't know sort of got to
do a bit more r&d on that andyeah so yeah but yeah obviously
step up this year so brought ina couple more cameras to chuck
on board and stuff um eventhough i lost one of the
australian sprint car title notsure how that happened to be

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completely honest um towards theend of the night there's a
certain period of the nightthat's pretty hazy for multiple
reasons but anyway so yeah iobviously lost a lost an 800
camera too so that so the wallettook a bit of a hit there too so
yeah well um yeah i don't knowi've i've got ideas on what i

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want to do next season but thenwe'll just see what happens.
Going to probably trial a fewthings at the start of the
season and just see how thatgoes.
But yeah.
The other thing with the socialsis you're always battling an
algorithm.
You've got something killer topost or you've got a killer reel
or something to post and thenyou just post it at the wrong

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time of day and it's just done.
It's game over.
It's like, forget about it.
It's never going to get seenkind of thing.
So there's just always thesethings about you know, what time
of day and when and, you know,what sort of demographic you're
trying to get to and, yeah, youknow.

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And it's hard too because Ithink, like, sometimes people go
past the stuff too because it'snot controversial.
Like, you know, that's why Ithink these other guys post
stuff that's so controversial isbecause the comment section ends
up being the content, not thecontent itself.
It's like, so...
Yeah, and, like, I don't know.
I just don't want to be thatguy.

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I never...
I just...
Yeah, I'm never going to go downthat route.
Like, you know, there's a fewthings I've posted that I've
thought have been, like, sort ofhalf controversial and I've sort
of, you know, not even wanted todo that.
So to go just full outrightclickbaity is not something that
I want to do, like, period.
So...
And, you know, I'll pull the pinon this before doing that.

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So...
yeah so i don't yeah i mean inhindsight i don't really know
where i fit in in the youtubelandscape you know maybe i don't
fit in at all i don't don'treally know so well um yeah all
right it's it's a hard one it'sum i don't know whether to do

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more talking head i hate doingthe talking head stuff because i
feel like an absolute dickheadstanding in the pits filming
myself or having nikki filminglike talking to the camera like
it's just yeah, I don't know, myego is not there to do it
comfortably kind of thing, like,yeah, I'm not, um, I don't like
doing it, but, yeah, it sort ofis what it is, if that's the

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route you gotta go down, I don'tknow, I suppose you gotta do it,
like, or you gotta, you gottapick whether you're gonna be in
front of the camera or behindit, like, there's plenty of
YouTube stuff out there wherepeople are behind the camera and
it's successful and they're notreally in it, so, yeah, I don't
know, we'll, we're gonna have tohave, we're gonna have to have a
good look at it, because it'sjust, It's just too much time
and money that's sort of almostbeen wasted really on doing it,

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like traveling to all theseevents.
And yeah, most of these eventswe don't even get into under a
media pass either.
We're paying to get into theseplaces.
So, you know, it's not likewe're getting a free ride
anywhere either.
So yeah, yeah, a bit of a hardone.
But yeah, it's just, yeah, Idon't know.

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I don't, I don't know.
We'll have to see.
So I'll definitely still do likethe Facebook, Instagram stuff.
And yeah, we'll definitely carryon with that.
And obviously like probably somepeople obviously know, other
people don't know, but obviouslyrun a few team pages as well for

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teams doing their social media.
So that's sort of, that's kindof in the background taken off
quite nicely as well for us.
Got another couple of teamsalready jumping on board next
year.
So, yeah, there's a few more.
Quite a few pages to sort of dostuff for there.

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Probably the worst part ismoderating it.
You post something, it doesn'tmatter to what page or what
you're doing.
And, yeah, you've got to alwayskeep an eye on the comments and
stuff like that.
That's what kills me and takesup so much time is you're always
worried about some Gumbycommenting something and then
the comments kick off and it'slike nobody wants their page
deleted.
well not nobody but most peopledon't want their page to be that

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so especially you know when yougot sponsors looking and stuff
like that so yeah doing thatit's all it's all time just yeah
everything's time hence why i'mdoing the podcast in the car
because this is really my onlyfree time that i have between
work and and doing like otherstuff so pretty much get home
gym eat dinner and then i'mpretty much straight back to the
computer like five six times aweek trying to create content

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and research and yeah i've got ai've got a couple of projects
that i'm doing a pretty big deepdive on um trying to make one
project like a full like propersort of documentary um just in
the basis of sort of likewriting it out in terms of like

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the way that i'm gonna put ittogether and then i'm gonna I
don't know if I'm doing it rightor wrong because I've never
obviously done a documentary butI'm then gonna like film it
around a timeline sort of per seso um yeah that's a bit of a
hard one I'm sort of already upagainst it with that one um that

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in itself is a sort of verycontroversial topic so there's
obviously a for and against forit with anything in our sport so
Yeah, and I obviously just wantto...
I just want to be in the middleground, you know, not one or the
other kind of thing.
So, yeah, we'll see how thatgoes, see how that starts

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panning out.
You know, that's the worst thingabout filming stuff or putting
any video together is, like, youthink it's going to be killer
and then you get to the editingof it and it's not what you
thought.
So, yeah, and that might be...
one of them, so see whathappens.

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I'm hoping it's going to be allgood, but we'll wait and see.
So that one there, I'm planningon doing a documentary on the V8
wingless situation.
I want to do a deep dive intowhy it can't happen or why not

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it can happen sort of thing.
just seems to be some peoplethat are just outright against
it and i i don't know why andsome of the stuff i want to find
out is yeah why like it's youknow some of the stuff i've
already done my research on it'slike the wingless is faster than
a super rod and a super rod is av8 non-wing spring car okay it's

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got a fiberglass body on it butyeah so i like I don't know.
There's a lot of research goingto it.
A lot of people to talk to.
I've already started talking toa few people and yeah, got, got
feelers on stuff and it's, it's,it's hard because you talk,

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depending on who you're talkingto, they're either for it or
they're against it.
So, and they're pretty one-eyedwith it as well.
So, yeah, I don't know.
I don't know.
We'll, we'll see how that goes.
But it's definitely somethingthat's of interest.
Um, a lot of interest in thesport in general kind of thing

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really like there's a lot ofguys that want it there's guys
that don't want it there's guysguys that will come from other
classes if they did go va likeyeah it's just it's a hard way
especially for me when i'm youknow if you're being logical it
seems like it's the logical stepto take but then there's other
things that being said that nothe next engine is going to be

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an ecotech which that just thatdoesn't make sense to me at all
and yeah they're not the easiestof engines to do they have more
problems than the current oneand like especially valve train
related like you talk to anyonein modified sedans who's running
ecotech like there's a lot ofstuff in the valve train with

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them that goes wrong and needs alot of maintenance and stuff so
yeah we'll see how that goes isort of You sort of want to play
the devil's advocate on thatone, to be honest.
I don't want to...
Yeah, I don't want to be one wayor the other.
Certainly don't want to bepissing anyone off or getting
anyone offside or anything likethat.

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So...
Yeah, I don't know.
We'll just...
Keep plugging away at it and seehow we go with it.
And then...
Yeah, that's pretty much thebiggest project I've got in the
off-season.
I'm hoping to get it done in theoff-season because I know that a

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few of these clubs, like theWingless Australia and stuff
like that, they have their AGMand stuff like that.
So I'll get some feedback fromthat and stuff.
Yeah, go from there kind ofthing.

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So, yeah.
And then, yeah.
I don't really know.
I don't really know.
I just don't ever want to bethat controversial guy that's
just clickbait and causing astir.
But, yeah, at the same time, I'dlike to sort of get to the
bottom of this.
And, yeah, I don't know.

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It's another confusing one asmuch as where do I fit in in
YouTube land sort of thing.
So, yeah.
Yeah, I don't know.
So, obviously on the weekend,just going to, I had a crack at
doing a bit of commentary atMurray Bridge on the infield
with Brett Ireland.
That was cool.

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It was a lot harder than Ithought.
Like, just all night, you've goteither the Clayton View
Australian or the producer inyour ear.
You sort of, yeah.
And then you hear yourself speaktoo, which is, I know that you
always hear yourself speak, butlike you, comes through like the
actual headset and it's like oflike just the slightest delay is

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like the most off-putting thingever so yeah I sort of worked it
out by the end of the night Ijust cracked one headphone just
cracked it over a little bit andit was much better but yeah I
had fun it was good um hopefullyI get to do more of it I've I've
asked to do more of it so we'llsee how that goes see if Maybe

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that's the avenue, I don't know.
See what happens.
Yeah, definitely had a blastdoing it, though.
It was cool to bounce off Brett.
He's so knowledgeable,especially in the speed cars and
stuff, so yeah, full on.
Wait and see what happens there,but yeah, sort of not holding my

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breath either on that.
But, ah well, it is what it is.
It is what it is, so...
Yeah.
But I don't know.
Had a blast this season.
I think, like, obviously thepage, everything like that,
growing bigger again.
And, yeah, I think it grew by,like, over 2,500 people this

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season.
So, which I know doesn't soundmuch when there's pages out
there that have millions ofpeople that follow and stuff.
But, yeah, it's also, you know,it's growing.
The good thing is that it'sgrowing organically.
It's not blowing up, like, toofast that hopefully it, you know
doesn't die kind of thing butit's like yeah it is growing

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organically and yeah one of thebest things is that I can walk
around the pits with my headheld high too because I have the
right people telling me that I'mdoing the right thing and stuff
and I'm not not beingcontroversial or clickbaity so
yeah that's sort of alwaysalways one thing that I'm proud
of is you know having peopletalk to me about that sort of

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stuff so yeah I don't know.
I do put a lot of time andeffort into this to try and make
it work.
So I think that's where I getdisappointed in myself that
stuff like the YouTube andstuff's not kind of working out.
But at the same time, I cameinto it knowing that this was
going to be a hard slog and itwasn't going to be anything

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easy.
It's always going to be a longprocess.
It's never going to just comeovernight.
So...
yeah so yeah i don't know muchlike this right now i don't know
what to do i don't know where togo with i've got so much to talk
about but not at the same timeif that makes sense um it's

(28:53):
probably it's a bit late torecap events especially when you
know events were held so longago sort of thing it's um i just
wish i had time after theseevents to do recaps because i
could probably put shortpodcasts up about them but yeah
it's just like literally don'thave the time to to do it

(29:14):
unfortunately so um yeahhopefully hopefully we can make
a bit more time for it next yearand see how it goes that way i
can get some more content out umyeah like i said in the
beginning i got a lot of goodfeedback about the last solo pod
that i did so see how it goeswell um yeah I don't know, and

(29:36):
there's stuff too, I don't wantto talk about stuff either,
like, you know, there's stuffthat I've seen and heard
throughout the year that, youknow, just stays where it is
kind of thing, so there's alwaysthat sort of stuff too, so,
yeah.
Hopefully, yeah, obviouslyMurray Bridge is our closest

(29:58):
track to home, so that's sort ofour local base and Yeah,
obviously seeing that made to gohas only got one more year and
even that, the joint's up forsublease is, you know, kind of
worrying.
It's not great.
I think Speedway's in a badplace in general.
I think the way the dollar'sgoing, things are only going to

(30:22):
get worse.
I think things are only going toget worse, period.
Obviously, I work constructionand...
I've seen a lot of projects getthe brakes pumped on them
because of financials.
I think that's the thing for me.
When you see the big guys whoare millionaires, billionaires,

(30:45):
when they're pulling the pursestrings, that's when money's
tight.
That's when the little guy isabsolutely hurting.
Unfortunately, our sport isquite blue-collar.
So there's a lot of guys that dowork sort of regular jobs or own

(31:06):
medium-sized sort of businessesthat help pay for their racing.
And unfortunately, like,everyone's just hurting.
So, yeah, sort of seeing someteams wind up as well.
And then other guys are sort ofshortening the amount of races
that they're doing.
So it's like, yeah, it was aninteresting conversation I had a

(31:30):
couple of months ago too, that,you know, potentially we do too
much sprint car racing and we'reoversaturating the market.
So if we scaled back the amountof races that we have in SA,
like, you know, would thatgenerate more interest?
Like, you know, are peoplespreading themselves too thin to
go to all these shows, races andfans?

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And, you know, if we pulled backon the shows a bit, you know,
would that, potentially bring afew more cars out of the sheds
that are sitting around or youknow would that bring more
people back to the track kind ofthing like yeah there's a
there's a lot there's a lot sortof unpacked there and a lot of

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it's not even racing relatedit's just it's just the dollar
and world economic issues reallythat are causing it so I don't I
don't really see an insight youknow to that ending at the
moment I think you know, thecurrent cost of living are just
going to become the new cost ofliving.
They're not going to get anybetter or their drastic change.

(32:34):
They're not going to go back tolike 1980 prices or anything
like that.
So I think we're stuck here andsort of in for a bad time in the
next couple of years, to behonest.
So, yeah, I don't know.
I don't know.
It's a hard one.
Like, I think...

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I see it as a valid point thatif there's less racing, it
garners more interest and you'renot oversaturating the product.
I also see it the other way,though, that the more racing you
have, the more of it, morepeople can see it and stuff like
that, too.
But at the same time, the moreof it, it's got to be a quality
product regardless.

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So, yeah, in that regard, youprobably are better off going
less racing than having aquality product.
So, yeah.
I think, obviously, too, like, alot of guys came and raced
Murray Bridge this year becausethe title was here.
I think no title there nextyear.
I think you're going to struggleto see guys race sprint cars
there, especially the Victorianguys who'd come over.

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You know, like, there's nothingthere for them to come over now.
It's not like they're gettingpractice laps in at the venue
beforehand or anything likethat.
So I think, yeah, I think youmight see a few more guys go to
the Mount Gambier.
But, yeah, I don't know.
Miami's calendars are reallypretty choppers, so I don't know

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if you'd see many more springcar shows added to Miami as to
what you would on a normalseason.
So, yeah, I don't know.
I think we're in for bad times,not just in Speedway, but
probably just the way of livingin Australia, full stop.
So, yeah, it's certainly not inour control anyway, unless

(34:20):
you're listening to this andyou're a politician, then pull
your head in, but...
Yeah, it's just, yeah.
And then like, you know, some ofthe stuff too, I've spoken to
guys and obviously they're atthe top end of their classes and
stuff, but you know, like themoney that they're spending on
wingless now, it's like, youknow, some of those guys can go
360 racing.
Obviously you probably not do asmany shows as what they do in a
wingless, but they can go race.

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They can go race the 360, youknow, for maybe six to eight
shows of the year instead ofdoing, 20, 25 wingless shows.
So, and their cars are literallyjust capable of swapping the
motor out and putting a wing onit and it can be a 360.
It's not, there's no, it's notlike it's that bad of a car that
it needs, you know, majorupgrades to get done or anything

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like that.
It's like, yeah, they're allbuilt quality cars and that's,
that's where sprint car racing,that's where wingless racing is
at at the moment too.
Like, you know, it's just,everyone's got killer motors and
like, you know, Adjustableshocks and stuff...
And...
Like...
It's just...
Yeah...

(35:26):
It's just...
I haven't gotten out ofcontrol...
It's just racing...
It's what's always going tohappen...
Like...
There's always going to besomeone...
Who's got the best of thebest...
And...
You know...
All that sort of stuff...
So...
Yeah...
It's like...
But I mean...
If you think sprint carracing's...
Cost money...
It's just...
It modifies the end moneycosts...
Like...
Those were expensive money...

(35:47):
Like...
That's big money to go andmodify the scenario.
I mean, to be at the top.
And be at the top of any classit is, too.
But, yeah.
So, yeah.
I think we're in for bad timesjust in general.
So, yeah.

(36:08):
Obviously, election coming up.
So, we'll see what Pelican getsput into that.
But, yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I don't want to get politicaleither.
I hate talking about politicalstuff, but, yeah, so, yeah,
sorry, I've just lost my trainof thought, really, because
these pelicans cut me off infront, but, so, um, yeah,

(36:36):
obviously, some of the, I spenta lot of time with the English
guys, and, you know, the waythat some of those cars are
presented, and the parts thatthey've got on them, they're
just, they're killer, like,they, they, they are a spring
car, like, anyway, like, It'sjust a matter that they've got
the V6 in it and no wing.
It's like, they're that high acalibre of a car.

(36:57):
So, yeah.
So, it's not...
And then, like, you could talkabout midget money.
I was talking to someone theother night who...
They've built a midget from theground up and that...
That's, like, scary money.
That's...
That's, like, you could do a lotof stuff for that kind of money.
Like, yeah.

(37:18):
People think...
people think sprint cars areexpensive oh boy that's uh yeah
there's some money there's somethere's some money in midgets
like unfortunately not a lot ofmoney to win but yeah there's
some money in building them likejeez so yeah obviously had a

(37:41):
blast with the midgets the lastcouple of weeks they put on such
good racing like they're such asuch an underrated class in
Australia sort of thing but Iactually don't know many drivers
who don't want to drive one,though.
Like, even guys, guys withsedans who hate sprint cars are
still like, oh, yeah, I want tohave a drive of a speed car one
day.
So, yeah.
It's, like, it's weird thateveryone wants to be like that,

(38:04):
but then they're also sort of abit underrated, but, yeah.
So, yeah.
I sort of turned into that blokethis year, too.
There's, like, every bit ofracing I've seen was like, oh,
that's the best racing I'veseen, and it's like...
yeah that's what happened themidget title was probably some
of the best racing i have seenall year um i think the best
racing period i've seen thisyear um adelaide 500 was cool as

(38:30):
like there was just so muchstuff that happened there there
was like such an atmospheregoing on there um i remember on
the friday night when all the ontrack bitch when stuff had
finished.
There was literally about athousand people walked to watch
the sprint cars and I didn'teven know what this noise was.
I could hear this noise, butnone of the cars had pushed off

(38:50):
yet.
So I was confused by it.
And it was like, and then Iturned around and there was this
like dust storm and it was likeall the people walking along
like the paths to get to thesprint cars.
And it was all their chatter.
And then it was just like thisextra thousand people just like
Walked in.
It was like.
It was bizarre.
Like.

(39:10):
And then.
Obviously.
Spoke to a few people.
Who'd.
They'd never seen.
They'd never even seen a sprintcar before.
They didn't know anything aboutthem.
So.
You know.
It's kind of cool to.
Answer questions.
And.
Yeah.
Be that kind of stuff.
That.
That was cool.
So.
Yeah.
Like I said.
Hopefully we see that back.
Back this year.

(39:31):
And.
Yeah.
I'm sure there's some.
Some big things coming out forthat.
Because that's only going to getbigger and better.
There's.
There's no way they're going tojust leave that show at what it
was.
They sort of don't do anythingbehalf of the Adelaide 500,
so...
Yeah, we'll wait and see whathappens there.

(39:52):
Probably need to book time offwork for that too, you know,
so...
Yeah, we've got...
Just reading a message, sorry.
I just got a message aboutpotentially covering another
event...
after after i'll put all overour socials that the season's
running down and we're over andthen yeah why i have one have

(40:13):
one more show to go to so yeahum we'll see what happens we'll
see what happens um yeah i'mkeen for it though so yeah So
yeah, I've obviously got, I dohave a few more podcast guests

(40:33):
around Adelaide too, but justtrying to line everything up
with their free time and my freetime, it's like, it's almost
impossible.
You know, I just, I'm just not,I'm not going down that Zoom
route.
I just don't want to, don't wantto do it.
I have got a few things in thedocumentary, unfortunately, that

(40:54):
I'll have to do via Zoom, butyeah, that's just, yeah,
that's...
what it is unfortunately I'm notnot in a position to sort of fly
around the country and you knowtalk to talk to people like if
uh if financials weren't anissue I'd be flying around the
country all the time doingpodcasts and stuff I wouldn't
have a a qualm in doing that butyeah unfortunately it's not the

(41:18):
it's not the position I'm in soyeah so yeah I've got I've got a
few few lined up I'm tryingreally hard I've got a what I
think will be a good one linedup with what this person's done
and is potentially gonna do umbut yeah we'll um we'll see how

(41:41):
that goes um yeah it's just amatter of their free time my
free time lining up um whichgenerally weekend too which
makes it sort of harder too sowe'll um yeah we'll see what
happens there so yeah Don't knowhow many more of these I'll do
because this is awkward assitting in the car talking to

(42:01):
yourself and driving at the sametime is bizarre.
But that's where I'm at withtime.
So here's what it is.
Like I said, no one might noteven hear this because it might
sound crap and I'm not puttingit out.
So yeah.

(42:22):
Move out the way, mate.
So yeah, we...
I think the best racing that Idid see, though, will be a tight
toss-up between Mildura winglesstitle and Mildura modified sedan
title.
That's...

(42:44):
That's probably a hard one.
Yeah, this...
My God.
Sorry.
That would probably be a hardone.

(43:07):
Seeing those two McDonald brosgo at it was wild.
And then obviously seeing Tysonleading the title, and then he
obviously got put back a coupleof positions too because he
apparently passed on theinfield.
Yeah, and he drove back there,so he kind of did it twice, and

(43:29):
that's...
kind of one of the bad thingsabout the people that, you know,
put doubt on him and that, like,he definitely, definitely earned
that title, um, yeah, Mildura's,it's probably such good racing
there, it's so underrated, thatjoint, like, it's just, um,
yeah, probably the worst thingthat's happened there is, like,
I've just been there, and it'sjust so bloody hot, you know,

(43:50):
it's in the mid-40s when I'vebeen there, like, you know, and
then the track has taken rubberor something like that, and it's
just, it's not really a fairrepresentation on, that place
and the people or anything likethat.
So, yeah, it was obviouslyfreezing there on the weekend.
It was the first time I've everworn a hoodie in Mildura.

(44:10):
So, yeah, I don't know.
It'd be a tight battle as towhat was better, was the
wingless title or modified sedantitle, but it'd be one of those
two.
And then, yeah.
Obviously, stuff like theAdelaide 500, the racing was
absolutely killer.
Especially on 9-1, that wasabsolutely banger.

(44:32):
I think one of the best thingsabout the 500 was it proved that
we don't need big tracks.
Like, we compare ourselves toAmerica so much in Australian
speedway.
And, you know, like, peoplewhinge about, you know, we don't
have big tracks in Australiaand, you know, like, all this
sort of stuff.
But, you know, we proved thatyou don't need them for good
racing.

(44:52):
Like...
What the 500 served up wasabsolutely perfect.
There's no issues.
So, you know, I don't knowanything about whether the track
layout is going to change or ifit's going to be the same or
what.
But, yeah, I'm assuming it'sgoing to be the same.
They are pretty tight for spacethere.

(45:13):
So, yeah, it's pretty coolseeing that go from a cricket
pitch to a racetrack andobviously back to a cricket
pitch.
So, yeah.
I actually haven't been backthere for a while.
I should probably get back therenow that that's greening up and
get a photo of it to putsomething up.
Yeah.
But yeah, seeing everyone thatwent in there too.
And it's quite eye-opening to bethere with SA Sprint Cars and

(45:36):
see all the stuff that goes intothe background of that too.
That's probably been one of thebiggest eye-opening things of
this season is seeing what goesin.
People probably don't reallyknow what these committees and
clubs and stuff do, but I'mtelling you now it is 110 the
backbone of speedway it's justnothing can happen without these
clubs so i'm a big advocate toofor people joining committees

(46:00):
and stuff like that too like ifyou're gonna whinge about
something you know like you'vegot to at least be willing to
put your hand up and help outand you know do what you can
kind of thing and a lot ofpeople just sort of tend to tend
not to.
They'd rather sort of win fromthe sidelines and jump in a
committee and help out and doanything.

(46:21):
I know it's a hard thing, butyeah, it's...
I sort of feel like people myage are like the last of a
generation that are going to doit.
And, you know, really, if youwant this sport to continue, you
need younger people to jump inand, you know...
I don't know.
Is it a thing of, like, it's notcool to be in a committee or
something?
Like, I don't know.

(46:42):
Like, it's not...
it's not the case at all.
It's like, it's just, it'ssomething that needs to be done
for the sport to keep going.
So I urge anyone, if you'rethinking or, you know, you're
half, half on the fence aboutit, definitely join, join the
committee that's suited to you,whether that's, you know, your
local speedway or your, yourclub that you're a member of or
something like that.

(47:03):
Definitely do it.
Cause you know, at the end ofthe day, a lot of the stuff that
gets passed on, it will affectyou.
So there's, you know, There's nobetter way than correcting that
by being on a committee in thefirst place.
So, yeah.
All right.
Yeah, well, I think I'll wrap itup there because, yeah, I don't

(47:24):
really know how this is going topan out.
So instead of absolutely boringyou to death like I just have,
I'll just leave it there.
And then, yeah, let me know ifyou want to hear more of these
and I'll see if I can do acouple more.
Peace.

UNKNOWN (47:40):
Peace.