October 6, 2025 • 36 mins
In this episode, I explore the quiet but radical act of being yourself - of releasing imitation and returning to the truth of your own energy. We talk about the ways we unconsciously shape-shift for acceptance, confuse other people’s desires for our own, and limit our potential out of fear. You’ll walk away with a deeper understanding of how to discern what’s truly yours, how to feel your own energy again, and how to make decisions from the body, not the mind.
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- The hidden ways imitation shows up in life, art, and self-expression
- Why true alignment comes from energy, not achievement
- How to recognise fear-based boundaries and expand beyond them
- A soulful reminder to trust your body’s wisdom over the mind’s logic
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This is the House of Andrea.
I'm Andrea Lee Matthews, an artist,photographer, and clairvoyant medium.
And in this podcast, we explore what itreally means to thrive as a soul having
a human experience, how to connect withour energy, transcend those edges and
boundaries that we create for ourselves.
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And open to the fullspectrum of who we are.
If you're ready to see yourselfdifferently, to sense more deeply,
and to expand into more of who youare, you are in the right place.
Let's dive in.
Andrea Matthies (00:34):
Good morning.
Welcome back This is ourfirst walking episode today.
This is a new format that I'm introducinginto the podcast, and so I'd love
to know at the end of the episode.
Feel free to send me a DM
Whether you liked the sound ofthe beautiful nature, 'because
I'm recording these actually in abeautiful nature reserve near my house.
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It runs along a river, so there'sbeautiful sounds of birds all around
me and the wind is rustling thetrees, which just sounds divine.
So I'd love to know, doyou like this format?
Is it blissful listeningto all of the beds or.
Do you have any other thoughts?
So let me know what you think, butthe idea of these episodes is to
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capture the daily contemplations andthe channelings that come through.
So I tend to try and getout for a walk every day.
It doesn't always happen.
What?
I always try dry, and one ofthe things that I've noticed is
that when I am moving my body.
It helps me really connect tomy spirit, and it also opens my
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channels up, particularly when I'min nature and I can just take my
time and really deeply connect.
So many beautifulchanneled messages come in.
So I wanted to open this series up a,to give me more options to be able to
bring these beautiful episodes to you,but also to start just recording some
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of these beautiful daily contemplationsthat come in and a little bit of
insight into what I often think about.
Particularly in the context of this newjourney that we're moving into with the
House of Andrea and on my own journeyas an artist, one of the things that
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has been coming through really stronglyof late is this sensation of this
work is all about pushing our edges.
Pushing the edges and theboundaries of self and creativity.
I think that really is the missionof the artist, honestly, any artist,
is to see the world and then push theboundaries of how we can interpret that,
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how we can see that, how we can shareand express that back out with our,
through our own lens, through our owneyes, and often to be able to do that.
We need to open our ability tocontemplate, to think deeply
because there is such a tendencyto wanna mimic or produce things
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that are socially acceptable.
And again, I'm not justtalking about art here.
I have seen this pattern for myself overso many different facets of my life.
I've seen myself want to imitate orregurgitate, but with a slightly different
lens popping the label of innovation onin so many different facets of my career.
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I remember when I wasin the corporate world.
I would look around and look and analyzethe most successful people in that field.
What are they doing?
How are they showing up?
How are they striving?
What are they excited by andmotivated by and with this desire,
this inner desire to fit in, I wouldtake those things on as my own.
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And this is really interesting because wecan take things on and convince ourselves.
That it's what we want, like to ourcore, we see something that someone
else is doing, it seems successful,or it paints a picture of what
we think we want for ourselves.
And before we know it, it's what we want.
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And I guess I'm saying to see thisreally strong conversation of this
notion of sleepwalking, right?
Which was our very firstepisode on this podcast.
This sense of imitation is such a powerfulone for us to identify in our lives and
give ourselves permission to break freefrom because we don't need to imitate.
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In my work, I focus a lot on ourenergy, our soul, coming back
to the essence of who we are,and it is absolutely impossible.
For us to be the same as someone else.
When our soul was getting ready toincarnate at this time, it chose
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this particular beautiful, meaningfulbody to go on this adventure on.
And so it is not only physically,DNA anatomically different from
other people, even if you looksimilar to a sibling the energy, the
essence, the soul, the spirit, theconnection, the way that we see things.
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It's different yet we spend so much timetrying to imitate and fit in for this
animalistic social acceptance type vibe.
And this is somethinghumans have always done.
It's always been safer in community.
It's always been safer if we're accepted.
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But we've definitely taken it too farin that out of fear and scarcity, we
are willing to sacrifice so many partsof ourselves for that acceptance based
on what looks successful on the surfaceor is successful for someone else.
Because we are craving those feelings,particularly if we, aren't in a
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space where we are absolutely fullwith self-love and our own energy.
If we've got energy leaks, if we arelooking outside ourselves for validation,
these kind of empty out our life forceand our self-love just enough for us to
feel like, oh, that thing that that personover there has, that's what's missing.
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That's, that's the life force.
That's the magic that I need.
So how do I get there?
And I say this with such love andexperience, such deep experience
because Like I can reflect back nowand see, no matter what age I was,
there was this element of needing, tovalidate or needing to fill myself and
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my self worth with external factors.
Looking around in the world and notknowing what I really wanted, but
seeing pieces reflected in others.
But actually what I wassensing was the energetic.
The energetic self-love, theenergetic confidence, the energetic.
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Willingness to push edges andand be authentic and be real.
That's what I was sensing that I wantedfor myself, but I was translating
it in terms of that's the physicalthing and the type of person and the
look and the factor that I obviouslyis missing for me to feel that way.
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And I was confusing theenergy with the physical.
And what that does quite often is thatthat's when we hit, uh, Google and be
like, how do IX, Y, Z or best strategyfor, or, you know, we see the career
that gives us the feeling, the energy.
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And then we think it's that tangible,actual career itself and all of the
wants and needs and haves associatedwith that career or that lifestyle.
And then we try and figure out whatis the 10 step plan to get there.
It's such a human thing.
'cause we all have these incredible,powerful minds that can figure things
out, that can learn, but we overusethat power, that ability, thinking that
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it's the tangible and the physical.
And so this is why I was talking aboutthis notion of pushing our edges.
This is such a strong theme that'scoming through for me now, and is,
is almost, hmm, what do I wanna say?
The mantra.
The mantra or the energy behindthis phase that I'm in at the
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moment is like, where are my edgesof what I feel is comfortable?
Or where are my edgesof what I think I need?
What's keeping me small?
What's keeping me on a track that issomething that physically looks great,
but is actually restricting me or keepingme out of my body, out of my true essence
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and my energy, and where can I push that?
Where am I not willing to breakrules based on fear of missing
out or not becoming the thingthat I think I should have?
This is the kind of dialogue that I am.
Now becoming hyper aware of with,with love, with this ability to
soften, to ground, to expand.
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Because the more that we become aware ofthese narratives, aware of these energies,
and when we're attached to the physicalor the idea of something and then pushing
our edges beyond that, this is where theincredible growth and potential happens.
And one of the subtleties of all of thistoo, is that sometimes we don't know,
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we are afraid of those edges 'causewe're not aware of where the edges are.
We are so programmed, and again, justspeaking from having lived this, we are
so programmed to just follow the planor follow the execution of something
based on what we think we need.
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We get so caught up in that, thatit's actually really hard for us
to see what's our edges and what isa dream or desire of someone else.
because so many times we end upfeeling well, I don't know what I want.
Well, I feel like that could beinteresting, so I'm just gonna
follow that because it's better thanfeeling how I'm feeling right now.
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That space of I don't know whoI am, I don't know what I want.
That is so depleting and it canfeel so terrifying because we
want to be attached to something.
We want to fit in.
We want to feel that we'rewhole and present and real.
And so it's so easy that ratherthan looking inside ourselves and
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finding those edges and being braveenough to push them, we just go, Ugh.
Overwhelm mind is running anxiety.
And that's when we start to walkdown these pathways that aren't ours.
And I've been thinking a lot lately aboutwhere my edges are, based on external
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narratives that I've created, edges thatI've created on social acceptance or
based on fear, based on past experience,childhood experiences, all different
types of experiences, even past lifeexperiences where I have set a boundary
that's like, no, that's not for me.
And this is the beautiful thing aboutenergy and really coming home to
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ourselves and being able to softenand open and sense things because
we can start to discern what is afear-based boundary or what is a
fear-based decision based on X, Y, Z?
Or even sometimes we don'tknow what the X, Y, Z is.
It's just, it's just a fear.
It just is.
'cause it's all we've ever known.
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And this is where coming back to the bodyis so important and why spending time in
places like nature walks like this canbe so valuable because all of a sudden.
Just with the sound of the birds, with thepresence and the pace that you set when
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walking in nature, this is where you canstart to actually feel into some of those
stories and some of those beliefs becausein especially when you're walking along.
You can give yourself permission for yourmind to just stop, stop analyzing, stop
running away with itself, to just breathe.
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And I like to often, 'cause I'ma big believer in, in the mind
actually not being the placewhere we make the decisions from.
It's actually the body, It's the sacral,it's the heart, it's the soul plexus.
It's these beautiful energy centers
If you are into human design, you'll evenget even more specifics around where your
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decision making center is most powerful.
And I can, I'll link a couple ofresources to some great human design
places in the show notes if you'reinterested and you haven't go into that.
But the mind is not adecision making center.
Ooh, cockatoo agrees with us.
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I'm just gonna walk awayfrom this guy 'cause.
He is pretty chatty.
Hello friend.
You know, we will have this debate and
We'll ruminate on it over and overand over again to try and make
a decision from that place and.
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That's not what the mind is for.
The mind is for processing,for ideation, for ideas.
It's not the master of whatwe should do with our lives.
It's just got real chatty this morning.
It's not the decision maker ofwhat we wanna do in our lives.
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It's, that's not what it's built for.
We need to get back into the bodyto make those decisions to the body
is the direct seat of the soul.
It is the connection to ourhigher self, to our soul, to
our energy, to our life force.
And when we leave that piece outof the equation and makes it really
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difficult to make decisions inalignment with our soul's essence.
When we make decisions from our mind.
We are making decisions based onpieces of logic that we've picked
up, and we all know that there are somany things that we don't yet know.
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There's so many pieces of information,of wisdom, of source that exists and
is true, but our mind hasn't come incontact with it yet, so it doesn't
have it as learned knowledge, whichmeans there's a massive piece of the
puzzle missing to then make a decision.
Whereas when we connecting to the bodyand we feel what those decisions are,
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It brings us to a much truer decisionand that's where coming back to the
body, walking, being with yourself,contemplating, I love contemplation.
You'll hear me say that inalmost every podcast episode.
It's like the thing I havebeen contemplating this week
or in this moment, or today.
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Allowing yourself to contemplate,to use your mind to rumble through
those known pieces of informationthat we have, but coming back into
the body in these moments in nature.
Or if you create a beautiful sanctuaryat home that allows you to drop
into your body, whatever that lookslike, and it will be different for
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everyone to just come in and feel.
Through the path, feel,through the decision.
Feel through the edge of who you are andwhat it is that you want to achieve, and
then allowing the body to speak back toyou, allowing your intuition, your soul
knowing to bring you a sign, a symbol,a thought, a feeling that could be a
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physical feeling or an energetic feelingto then build the picture for you.
This is what.
Makes us aware of some of those fears andnarratives that we've got playing based on
things we've picked up on society or justto fit in versus what's actually real.
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What is actually something that wewant to do or want to be, and where
our limitations are around that.
Because as soon as we havethis beautiful awareness of.
Well, I've created an edge or a fear andtold myself that I don't do X, Y, and Z.
We could feel into that and be like,is that, is that just an edge based
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on a societal expectation that I canhold the edge and step forward because
I know I can feel it in my bone.
That this is somethingthat I'm meant to be doing.
Like I can feel itphysically and tangibly.
This is something I have to do, but Ihave this edge based on who I've told
myself that I am or I'm not in the past,or because I feel like it doesn't fit
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in or because I'm stuck in imitation.
Or I've looked at what somebody else hasbecause it was too hard, too painful,
too elusive for me to figure out myself.
And so I'm on this imitation pathway,and this edge is actually not mine.
It's just a story that I've told myself.
And here's the other thing that I wannasay, which could be very polarizing,
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but I don't, necessarily agree or love.
how we have become atrauma story based society.
And you'll hear this either in yourselfand if you're really honest with
yourself, you'll see it within yourself.
'cause I can see it when it pops up too.
Or in others that you loveor in others around you.
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There will be something thatthey're battling and all of a
sudden you'll hear them say.
Because of this childhood memoryor because of this childhood event
or because of my parents' fear oranger or exam, blah, blah, blah.
I have X, Y, Z, done this behaviorand this is why I am this way.
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You'll hear the story
and what happens.
the intention behind stories can bepowerful because what they're trying
to do is reparent ourselves, help usreparent ourselves, or go back and
love our inner child, or have awarenessaround why a certain behavior exists.
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But a lot of people stop at the story.
It's like, I have this story and thisis what it is, and I'm working on it.
But the working on it doesn'tactually truly happen because
they're too stuck in the story.
One of the, I'm saying this with completelove because this is where I used to live.
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This is how I used to be, especiallywhen I first came into personal
development work and spirituality andstarted to be able to go back into past
life stuff or, you know, see visionsof past things for both myself and.
The clients that I work with, andit's so easy to build that narrative.
'cause our brain, again, loves narrative.
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It loves story, it loves to beable to go this equals this.
We're so mathematical, evenwhen it comes to psychology And
trying to figure things out.
We love a good this plus this equals this.
It's just how we wire it.
And that can be so beautiful inthe healing process, but it's not
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beneficial if we get stuck in thethis plus this equals this, and we
get stuck in a healing loop of, I'mworking on it, I'm working on it.
I'm just, I'm going backand reparenting her.
but we don't ever move through that,and we've created an edge around that.
It's like this.
Now that I know the story, it wasuncomfortable to discover the story and
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to do the healing work to find the story.
But now I've created an edge that Ihave the story that it's like safer
and easier to justify than it is.
To just decide not to have the story.
There's a comfort that happens aroundhaving the story, but I've worked
with some beautiful, incrediblementors now, and the model that I love
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that has evolved for me is see thestory, but choose differently anyway.
Like see the story of I have thistendency, or I have this belief.
And I behave in this waybecause of X, y, z story.
But I choose now to let that go.
Like I just choose a different story.
I actually see the story evaporating.
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It actually doesn't become a narrativeanymore because it is an edge.
It is a comfort edge that we create.
In a classic example is, you know, I grewup not on the poverty line, but just above
it, and everything was always a struggle.
Money was always a stretch.
my parents had multiple small businesses.
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My dad was in Auto Lake and hadhis auto lake business, and my
mom had a crystal and jewelrybusiness and a massage business,
and they also taught rock and roll.
Like there was a lot of entrepreneurialspirit, but out of a desperate need to
keep the lights on with this toing andfroing between, I'm doing this because
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I'm entrepreneurial and I see theopportunity here, but I also need to.
Buy food to put on the table.
And so this entrepreneurialspirit was wrapped in this need of
desperation, of scarcity, of fear.
And so growing up Ilived in that paradigm.
and then when I first started my business.
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Had a lot of scarcity around that.
This mentality of you shouldget a corporate job because
it's safe, it's secure.
You are less likely to failif you have a corporate job
versus starting your own thing.
'cause I saw my parents run multiplebusinesses with this fear of always
failing, always having to hustle.
So there was this narrative and story.
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That became a money narrative.
I have this money issue because of X,Y, Z upbringing, and it becomes a story
And instead of even just carrying thestory now I've chosen to work with the
power of decision and I think this issuch a beautiful shift that can happen.
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it's like I just decidethat it's different.
I decide that my financial reality isdifferent and it exists, and that's it.
There's no story.
And you might listen to thisand be like, well, that sounds
easier said than done, but thisis what I'm talking about when it.
When I talk about the connectionto our body and our decision
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making centers, because when,because energy is malleable, right?
Energy can move.
We can move energy, we can setenergy based on our intention,
especially when our intention is pure.
So if we make the decision to claim and.
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Side connecting back to our body, andthat's what I'm saying, getting out
of the mind and back into the body.
For me, my most powerful decisionmaking center is my sacral sacral
center, which is the second from thebody around the uterus or the womb.
When I come back to that energycenter and just say, I am making
this big claim and decision, andthere is no interference, there is
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no static, there is no mind chatter.
The decision is made.
That I am abundant.
I'm abundant.
And the more that we say it overand over and over it becomes true.
And when we make those decisions, thisis where we can get this interference.
And we see very clearlywhere our edges are.
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It's like, oh, but to be abundant,I have to do an X, Y, Z, or to do
this, I have to do X, Y, and Z.
And that's not always helpful.
Nor true,
but what we can do is realize wherean edge exists, and then again, double
down on that decision making and makea powerful decision to do it anyway.
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Despite the fear, despite the story,despite what the mind chatter is saying.
Double down and take the action becauseThe more and more we do it over and
over and over, it's going to shift.
so my focus now is not on story.
In fact I don't avoid story,but I don't need story.
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And that is a massive difference.
If there's a resistance or an edge ora boundary, or even an expectation,
I feel like I'm imitating of others.
It's coming up.
I won't even go into story anymore becauseI know it can be a trap to get stuck in.
I'll go into decision, intention, desire.
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I want this.
Because I know that my soul is speaking tome through my body, through my intuition,
through my senses, sources, speaking tome, that this is what I'm meant to do.
So I make the powerful decisionthat that is true, that that is
so, and that that's what I'm gonnado, and I'll move from that space.
I'll also call in support,love, opportunity.
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Helpful people.
Make these, they're almost like commandsand people don't like this word command.
Particularly there's anenergy in our society that.
We shouldn't be commandingparticularly for women.
But command.
It is like you feel that word inyour gut when you allow it in.
You feel that word in your gut.
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It's like,
This is what I choose.
My intention is hyperfocusedon this reality.
And so that's the languagethat I work with now.
And it makes such an incredibledifference, particularly when you're
facing a fear or you're facing an edge ora boundary that we've created in the mind.
It's like, sorry, mind, sorry, mind.
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This is an energy deal.
Uh, this is being solved by energyand intention, and you make it so.
And this can be really hard toget your mind around 'cause you're
like, well, that just sounds easy.
Like if that was that easy, thenI'm sure everyone would do it.
Like, how do I switch my mind off?
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And there's a subtlety to it and it'snot perfect and my mind will still
run away with me, But what I can tellyou is that the more that we decide
to claim our power to claim who we are.
To change our language and toget into the energy of certainty.
Even if we don't know what it feels like,even if it's super foreign and we have no
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idea what we're doing, or it feels weirdor you don't believe it, coming back to
this energy, whatever way we can graspit and stepping into this, the more we
do it, the more it becomes real, the morewe're able to do it over and over and
over, and it becomes the new baseline.
It becomes the new learned pattern,and that way we can start to step up
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to the threshold of the things that oursoul is calling for us to do and see
the edge, see the fear, see the story.
If we've got story that we've made aroundit, and we can choose differently, but can
be like, I'm gonna take this step anyway.
I'm going to pursue this project,I'm gonna run this test of something.
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You know, it is taking me ages to beable to do these walking podcasts.
'cause I was like, nobody'sgonna wanna listen to this.
I need perfect audio in a studio.
Like all this story and narrative andexpectation just based on past things.
And I'm like, oh, justget rid of all of that.
Just go and do it.
Run a test.
So I've done a few testsof this and I'm like.
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Yeah, I kind of like this.
I like this both as someonewho's delivering it, but I
also like to receive it too.
When I listen back to them,I'm like, this isn't nice.
It feels real.
It feels like we're walking sideby side, having a conversation.
Because you can hear the realness ofit, you can hear the world around it.
So run the test.
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See the edge.
Allow yourself to come back to your body,and whether that's go for a walk in nature
and reconnect back to yourself or do agrounding practice, whatever feels really
good for you, come back to yourself,see the edge and just walk past it.
And by walking past the edges or walkingpast the narratives or expectations
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that we think we have to do, that'swhere we really start to discover the
pieces of ourselves, the pieces of oursoul that have been calling to us for
so long, they're just waiting for us tolisten because all of a sudden we are
choosing and we're intentional arounddropping, needing to be like someone
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else, or looking out at the world andbeing like, this is how I have to fit in.
This is how I want to feel.
Oh, they're doing it thatway to feel that way.
So that's how I have to do it too.
We start to drop that andexperiment for ourselves in what
that looks like for ourselves.
And make moves that only us couldmake crazy combinations of things
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and ideas that just feel sodelicious and so blissful and we
have no idea where we are going.
'Cause that's the other big trap.
Our mind wants to see the endresult before we take the move.
But even if we can't see where weare going, it just, you just know.
You know in your bones, in your bodythat there's something here for you,
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that there's some magic here for you.
There's something you're meant to bedoing in this space and you just move.
And it's amazing because as soon asyou make the move, The edge dissolves.
'cause you're like, oh.
Oh, that's what I was afraid ofand had created this big story
about and had worried about.
In my mind, my mind is such apowerful processing tool, but it
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created so many different scenarios.
It actually didn't exist.
This is awesome, or this is not asawesome as I thought, but it's okay
because now I have a new piece ofthe puzzle and I have the known.
It's not an unknown anymore.
I'm here and I'm like, Ooh, newedge, or, Ooh, okay, cool Feedback.
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Amazing.
I'm getting to learn and know myself.
I'm getting to love myself more.
I'm getting to see my bravery.
I can see the pathway starting to open.
'cause so many times we wantthe pathway to be open and
clear before we make a move.
It's actually impossible for our brains.
To see the exact pathway of oursoul because it's not, it's not.
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What is there for the brain iseditors process information.
It's not to see pathways,it's not to see energy.
The best healers, mediums, shamans,psychics, I mean, we are all those things.
Lemme just say that a strong belief thatwe are all those things we just have
chosen whether to open it or close it.
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But Those like myself, thatare fully open and trusting.
We don't do it from our minds,we do it from our energy senses,
from our soul through our bodies.
That's how we receive.
And so the more that we can come back tothat, we start to open those channels,
those abilities, we start to see anddissolve edges even faster because all
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of a sudden we can see the ones that werereal and the ones that are manufactured,
the ones that the mind created out offear are out of story, past experience.
And then we can just keep moving onestep at a time, discover ourselves one
step at a time And it's not even aboutbecoming something at the end of the day.
It's just about coming home to self.
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And so if there's somethingthat you've been craving to do.
But you've got an edge.
You've got a block or you'vegot a story or something that
your mind is telling you.
This is your permission to break freeof that, to start playing with those
edges, to come back to the body, tocome back to the seat of the soul.
Maybe explore your humandesign to see and connect.
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'cause sometimes it can be helpful toknow that and be able to have a visual
to really connect back into your body.
And just take that next magicalstep into deeper of who you are.
I love you.
I hope you've enjoyedthis walking episode.
Let me know.
Send me a DM if you like it, anyfeedback that you have, and I will
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see you in the very next episode.
This is the House of Andrea.
I'm Andrea Lee Matthews, an artist,photographer, and clairvoyant medium.
And in this podcast, we explore what itreally means to thrive as a soul having
a human experience, how to connect withour energy, transcend those edges and
boundaries that we create for ourselves.
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And open to the fullspectrum of who we are.
If you're ready to see yourselfdifferently, to sense more deeply,
and to expand into more of who youare, you are in the right place.
Let's dive in.
Andrea Matthies (00:34):
Good morning.
Welcome back This is ourfirst walking episode today.
This is a new format that I'm introducinginto the podcast, and so I'd love
to know at the end of the episode.
Feel free to send me a DM
Whether you liked the sound ofthe beautiful nature, 'because
I'm recording these actually in abeautiful nature reserve near my house.
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It runs along a river, so there'sbeautiful sounds of birds all around
me and the wind is rustling thetrees, which just sounds divine.
So I'd love to know, doyou like this format?
Is it blissful listeningto all of the beds or.
Do you have any other thoughts?
So let me know what you think, butthe idea of these episodes is to
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capture the daily contemplations andthe channelings that come through.
So I tend to try and getout for a walk every day.
It doesn't always happen.
What?
I always try dry, and one ofthe things that I've noticed is
that when I am moving my body.
It helps me really connect tomy spirit, and it also opens my
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channels up, particularly when I'min nature and I can just take my
time and really deeply connect.
So many beautifulchanneled messages come in.
So I wanted to open this series up a,to give me more options to be able to
bring these beautiful episodes to you,but also to start just recording some
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of these beautiful daily contemplationsthat come in and a little bit of
insight into what I often think about.
Particularly in the context of this newjourney that we're moving into with the
House of Andrea and on my own journeyas an artist, one of the things that
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has been coming through really stronglyof late is this sensation of this
work is all about pushing our edges.
Pushing the edges and theboundaries of self and creativity.
I think that really is the missionof the artist, honestly, any artist,
is to see the world and then push theboundaries of how we can interpret that,
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how we can see that, how we can shareand express that back out with our,
through our own lens, through our owneyes, and often to be able to do that.
We need to open our ability tocontemplate, to think deeply
because there is such a tendencyto wanna mimic or produce things
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that are socially acceptable.
And again, I'm not justtalking about art here.
I have seen this pattern for myself overso many different facets of my life.
I've seen myself want to imitate orregurgitate, but with a slightly different
lens popping the label of innovation onin so many different facets of my career.
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I remember when I wasin the corporate world.
I would look around and look and analyzethe most successful people in that field.
What are they doing?
How are they showing up?
How are they striving?
What are they excited by andmotivated by and with this desire,
this inner desire to fit in, I wouldtake those things on as my own.
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And this is really interesting because wecan take things on and convince ourselves.
That it's what we want, like to ourcore, we see something that someone
else is doing, it seems successful,or it paints a picture of what
we think we want for ourselves.
And before we know it, it's what we want.
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And I guess I'm saying to see thisreally strong conversation of this
notion of sleepwalking, right?
Which was our very firstepisode on this podcast.
This sense of imitation is such a powerfulone for us to identify in our lives and
give ourselves permission to break freefrom because we don't need to imitate.
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In my work, I focus a lot on ourenergy, our soul, coming back
to the essence of who we are,and it is absolutely impossible.
For us to be the same as someone else.
When our soul was getting ready toincarnate at this time, it chose
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this particular beautiful, meaningfulbody to go on this adventure on.
And so it is not only physically,DNA anatomically different from
other people, even if you looksimilar to a sibling the energy, the
essence, the soul, the spirit, theconnection, the way that we see things.
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It's different yet we spend so much timetrying to imitate and fit in for this
animalistic social acceptance type vibe.
And this is somethinghumans have always done.
It's always been safer in community.
It's always been safer if we're accepted.
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But we've definitely taken it too farin that out of fear and scarcity, we
are willing to sacrifice so many partsof ourselves for that acceptance based
on what looks successful on the surfaceor is successful for someone else.
Because we are craving those feelings,particularly if we, aren't in a
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space where we are absolutely fullwith self-love and our own energy.
If we've got energy leaks, if we arelooking outside ourselves for validation,
these kind of empty out our life forceand our self-love just enough for us to
feel like, oh, that thing that that personover there has, that's what's missing.
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That's, that's the life force.
That's the magic that I need.
So how do I get there?
And I say this with such love andexperience, such deep experience
because Like I can reflect back nowand see, no matter what age I was,
there was this element of needing, tovalidate or needing to fill myself and
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my self worth with external factors.
Looking around in the world and notknowing what I really wanted, but
seeing pieces reflected in others.
But actually what I wassensing was the energetic.
The energetic self-love, theenergetic confidence, the energetic.
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Willingness to push edges andand be authentic and be real.
That's what I was sensing that I wantedfor myself, but I was translating
it in terms of that's the physicalthing and the type of person and the
look and the factor that I obviouslyis missing for me to feel that way.
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And I was confusing theenergy with the physical.
And what that does quite often is thatthat's when we hit, uh, Google and be
like, how do IX, Y, Z or best strategyfor, or, you know, we see the career
that gives us the feeling, the energy.
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And then we think it's that tangible,actual career itself and all of the
wants and needs and haves associatedwith that career or that lifestyle.
And then we try and figure out whatis the 10 step plan to get there.
It's such a human thing.
'cause we all have these incredible,powerful minds that can figure things
out, that can learn, but we overusethat power, that ability, thinking that
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it's the tangible and the physical.
And so this is why I was talking aboutthis notion of pushing our edges.
This is such a strong theme that'scoming through for me now, and is,
is almost, hmm, what do I wanna say?
The mantra.
The mantra or the energy behindthis phase that I'm in at the
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moment is like, where are my edgesof what I feel is comfortable?
Or where are my edgesof what I think I need?
What's keeping me small?
What's keeping me on a track that issomething that physically looks great,
but is actually restricting me or keepingme out of my body, out of my true essence
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and my energy, and where can I push that?
Where am I not willing to breakrules based on fear of missing
out or not becoming the thingthat I think I should have?
This is the kind of dialogue that I am.
Now becoming hyper aware of with,with love, with this ability to
soften, to ground, to expand.
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Because the more that we become aware ofthese narratives, aware of these energies,
and when we're attached to the physicalor the idea of something and then pushing
our edges beyond that, this is where theincredible growth and potential happens.
And one of the subtleties of all of thistoo, is that sometimes we don't know,
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we are afraid of those edges 'causewe're not aware of where the edges are.
We are so programmed, and again, justspeaking from having lived this, we are
so programmed to just follow the planor follow the execution of something
based on what we think we need.
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We get so caught up in that, thatit's actually really hard for us
to see what's our edges and what isa dream or desire of someone else.
because so many times we end upfeeling well, I don't know what I want.
Well, I feel like that could beinteresting, so I'm just gonna
follow that because it's better thanfeeling how I'm feeling right now.
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That space of I don't know whoI am, I don't know what I want.
That is so depleting and it canfeel so terrifying because we
want to be attached to something.
We want to fit in.
We want to feel that we'rewhole and present and real.
And so it's so easy that ratherthan looking inside ourselves and
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finding those edges and being braveenough to push them, we just go, Ugh.
Overwhelm mind is running anxiety.
And that's when we start to walkdown these pathways that aren't ours.
And I've been thinking a lot lately aboutwhere my edges are, based on external
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narratives that I've created, edges thatI've created on social acceptance or
based on fear, based on past experience,childhood experiences, all different
types of experiences, even past lifeexperiences where I have set a boundary
that's like, no, that's not for me.
And this is the beautiful thing aboutenergy and really coming home to
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ourselves and being able to softenand open and sense things because
we can start to discern what is afear-based boundary or what is a
fear-based decision based on X, Y, Z?
Or even sometimes we don'tknow what the X, Y, Z is.
It's just, it's just a fear.
It just is.
'cause it's all we've ever known.
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And this is where coming back to the bodyis so important and why spending time in
places like nature walks like this canbe so valuable because all of a sudden.
Just with the sound of the birds, with thepresence and the pace that you set when
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walking in nature, this is where you canstart to actually feel into some of those
stories and some of those beliefs becausein especially when you're walking along.
You can give yourself permission for yourmind to just stop, stop analyzing, stop
running away with itself, to just breathe.
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And I like to often, 'cause I'ma big believer in, in the mind
actually not being the placewhere we make the decisions from.
It's actually the body, It's the sacral,it's the heart, it's the soul plexus.
It's these beautiful energy centers
If you are into human design, you'll evenget even more specifics around where your
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decision making center is most powerful.
And I can, I'll link a couple ofresources to some great human design
places in the show notes if you'reinterested and you haven't go into that.
But the mind is not adecision making center.
Ooh, cockatoo agrees with us.
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I'm just gonna walk awayfrom this guy 'cause.
He is pretty chatty.
Hello friend.
You know, we will have this debate and
We'll ruminate on it over and overand over again to try and make
a decision from that place and.
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That's not what the mind is for.
The mind is for processing,for ideation, for ideas.
It's not the master of whatwe should do with our lives.
It's just got real chatty this morning.
It's not the decision maker ofwhat we wanna do in our lives.
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It's, that's not what it's built for.
We need to get back into the bodyto make those decisions to the body
is the direct seat of the soul.
It is the connection to ourhigher self, to our soul, to
our energy, to our life force.
And when we leave that piece outof the equation and makes it really
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difficult to make decisions inalignment with our soul's essence.
When we make decisions from our mind.
We are making decisions based onpieces of logic that we've picked
up, and we all know that there are somany things that we don't yet know.
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There's so many pieces of information,of wisdom, of source that exists and
is true, but our mind hasn't come incontact with it yet, so it doesn't
have it as learned knowledge, whichmeans there's a massive piece of the
puzzle missing to then make a decision.
Whereas when we connecting to the bodyand we feel what those decisions are,
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It brings us to a much truer decisionand that's where coming back to the
body, walking, being with yourself,contemplating, I love contemplation.
You'll hear me say that inalmost every podcast episode.
It's like the thing I havebeen contemplating this week
or in this moment, or today.
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Allowing yourself to contemplate,to use your mind to rumble through
those known pieces of informationthat we have, but coming back into
the body in these moments in nature.
Or if you create a beautiful sanctuaryat home that allows you to drop
into your body, whatever that lookslike, and it will be different for
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everyone to just come in and feel.
Through the path, feel,through the decision.
Feel through the edge of who you are andwhat it is that you want to achieve, and
then allowing the body to speak back toyou, allowing your intuition, your soul
knowing to bring you a sign, a symbol,a thought, a feeling that could be a
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physical feeling or an energetic feelingto then build the picture for you.
This is what.
Makes us aware of some of those fears andnarratives that we've got playing based on
things we've picked up on society or justto fit in versus what's actually real.
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What is actually something that wewant to do or want to be, and where
our limitations are around that.
Because as soon as we havethis beautiful awareness of.
Well, I've created an edge or a fear andtold myself that I don't do X, Y, and Z.
We could feel into that and be like,is that, is that just an edge based
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on a societal expectation that I canhold the edge and step forward because
I know I can feel it in my bone.
That this is somethingthat I'm meant to be doing.
Like I can feel itphysically and tangibly.
This is something I have to do, but Ihave this edge based on who I've told
myself that I am or I'm not in the past,or because I feel like it doesn't fit
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in or because I'm stuck in imitation.
Or I've looked at what somebody else hasbecause it was too hard, too painful,
too elusive for me to figure out myself.
And so I'm on this imitation pathway,and this edge is actually not mine.
It's just a story that I've told myself.
And here's the other thing that I wannasay, which could be very polarizing,
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but I don't, necessarily agree or love.
how we have become atrauma story based society.
And you'll hear this either in yourselfand if you're really honest with
yourself, you'll see it within yourself.
'cause I can see it when it pops up too.
Or in others that you loveor in others around you.
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There will be something thatthey're battling and all of a
sudden you'll hear them say.
Because of this childhood memoryor because of this childhood event
or because of my parents' fear oranger or exam, blah, blah, blah.
I have X, Y, Z, done this behaviorand this is why I am this way.
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You'll hear the story
and what happens.
the intention behind stories can bepowerful because what they're trying
to do is reparent ourselves, help usreparent ourselves, or go back and
love our inner child, or have awarenessaround why a certain behavior exists.
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But a lot of people stop at the story.
It's like, I have this story and thisis what it is, and I'm working on it.
But the working on it doesn'tactually truly happen because
they're too stuck in the story.
One of the, I'm saying this with completelove because this is where I used to live.
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This is how I used to be, especiallywhen I first came into personal
development work and spirituality andstarted to be able to go back into past
life stuff or, you know, see visionsof past things for both myself and.
The clients that I work with, andit's so easy to build that narrative.
'cause our brain, again, loves narrative.
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It loves story, it loves to beable to go this equals this.
We're so mathematical, evenwhen it comes to psychology And
trying to figure things out.
We love a good this plus this equals this.
It's just how we wire it.
And that can be so beautiful inthe healing process, but it's not
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beneficial if we get stuck in thethis plus this equals this, and we
get stuck in a healing loop of, I'mworking on it, I'm working on it.
I'm just, I'm going backand reparenting her.
but we don't ever move through that,and we've created an edge around that.
It's like this.
Now that I know the story, it wasuncomfortable to discover the story and
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to do the healing work to find the story.
But now I've created an edge that Ihave the story that it's like safer
and easier to justify than it is.
To just decide not to have the story.
There's a comfort that happens aroundhaving the story, but I've worked
with some beautiful, incrediblementors now, and the model that I love
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that has evolved for me is see thestory, but choose differently anyway.
Like see the story of I have thistendency, or I have this belief.
And I behave in this waybecause of X, y, z story.
But I choose now to let that go.
Like I just choose a different story.
I actually see the story evaporating.
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It actually doesn't become a narrativeanymore because it is an edge.
It is a comfort edge that we create.
In a classic example is, you know, I grewup not on the poverty line, but just above
it, and everything was always a struggle.
Money was always a stretch.
my parents had multiple small businesses.
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My dad was in Auto Lake and hadhis auto lake business, and my
mom had a crystal and jewelrybusiness and a massage business,
and they also taught rock and roll.
Like there was a lot of entrepreneurialspirit, but out of a desperate need to
keep the lights on with this toing andfroing between, I'm doing this because
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I'm entrepreneurial and I see theopportunity here, but I also need to.
Buy food to put on the table.
And so this entrepreneurialspirit was wrapped in this need of
desperation, of scarcity, of fear.
And so growing up Ilived in that paradigm.
and then when I first started my business.
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Had a lot of scarcity around that.
This mentality of you shouldget a corporate job because
it's safe, it's secure.
You are less likely to failif you have a corporate job
versus starting your own thing.
'cause I saw my parents run multiplebusinesses with this fear of always
failing, always having to hustle.
So there was this narrative and story.
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That became a money narrative.
I have this money issue because of X,Y, Z upbringing, and it becomes a story
And instead of even just carrying thestory now I've chosen to work with the
power of decision and I think this issuch a beautiful shift that can happen.
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it's like I just decidethat it's different.
I decide that my financial reality isdifferent and it exists, and that's it.
There's no story.
And you might listen to thisand be like, well, that sounds
easier said than done, but thisis what I'm talking about when it.
When I talk about the connectionto our body and our decision
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making centers, because when,because energy is malleable, right?
Energy can move.
We can move energy, we can setenergy based on our intention,
especially when our intention is pure.
So if we make the decision to claim and.
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Side connecting back to our body, andthat's what I'm saying, getting out
of the mind and back into the body.
For me, my most powerful decisionmaking center is my sacral sacral
center, which is the second from thebody around the uterus or the womb.
When I come back to that energycenter and just say, I am making
this big claim and decision, andthere is no interference, there is
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no static, there is no mind chatter.
The decision is made.
That I am abundant.
I'm abundant.
And the more that we say it overand over and over it becomes true.
And when we make those decisions, thisis where we can get this interference.
And we see very clearlywhere our edges are.
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It's like, oh, but to be abundant,I have to do an X, Y, Z, or to do
this, I have to do X, Y, and Z.
And that's not always helpful.
Nor true,
but what we can do is realize wherean edge exists, and then again, double
down on that decision making and makea powerful decision to do it anyway.
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Despite the fear, despite the story,despite what the mind chatter is saying.
Double down and take the action becauseThe more and more we do it over and
over and over, it's going to shift.
so my focus now is not on story.
In fact I don't avoid story,but I don't need story.
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And that is a massive difference.
If there's a resistance or an edge ora boundary, or even an expectation,
I feel like I'm imitating of others.
It's coming up.
I won't even go into story anymore becauseI know it can be a trap to get stuck in.
I'll go into decision, intention, desire.
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I want this.
Because I know that my soul is speaking tome through my body, through my intuition,
through my senses, sources, speaking tome, that this is what I'm meant to do.
So I make the powerful decisionthat that is true, that that is
so, and that that's what I'm gonnado, and I'll move from that space.
I'll also call in support,love, opportunity.
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Helpful people.
Make these, they're almost like commandsand people don't like this word command.
Particularly there's anenergy in our society that.
We shouldn't be commandingparticularly for women.
But command.
It is like you feel that word inyour gut when you allow it in.
You feel that word in your gut.
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It's like,
This is what I choose.
My intention is hyperfocusedon this reality.
And so that's the languagethat I work with now.
And it makes such an incredibledifference, particularly when you're
facing a fear or you're facing an edge ora boundary that we've created in the mind.
It's like, sorry, mind, sorry, mind.
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This is an energy deal.
Uh, this is being solved by energyand intention, and you make it so.
And this can be really hard toget your mind around 'cause you're
like, well, that just sounds easy.
Like if that was that easy, thenI'm sure everyone would do it.
Like, how do I switch my mind off?
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And there's a subtlety to it and it'snot perfect and my mind will still
run away with me, But what I can tellyou is that the more that we decide
to claim our power to claim who we are.
To change our language and toget into the energy of certainty.
Even if we don't know what it feels like,even if it's super foreign and we have no
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idea what we're doing, or it feels weirdor you don't believe it, coming back to
this energy, whatever way we can graspit and stepping into this, the more we
do it, the more it becomes real, the morewe're able to do it over and over and
over, and it becomes the new baseline.
It becomes the new learned pattern,and that way we can start to step up
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to the threshold of the things that oursoul is calling for us to do and see
the edge, see the fear, see the story.
If we've got story that we've made aroundit, and we can choose differently, but can
be like, I'm gonna take this step anyway.
I'm going to pursue this project,I'm gonna run this test of something.
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You know, it is taking me ages to beable to do these walking podcasts.
'cause I was like, nobody'sgonna wanna listen to this.
I need perfect audio in a studio.
Like all this story and narrative andexpectation just based on past things.
And I'm like, oh, justget rid of all of that.
Just go and do it.
Run a test.
So I've done a few testsof this and I'm like.
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Yeah, I kind of like this.
I like this both as someonewho's delivering it, but I
also like to receive it too.
When I listen back to them,I'm like, this isn't nice.
It feels real.
It feels like we're walking sideby side, having a conversation.
Because you can hear the realness ofit, you can hear the world around it.
So run the test.
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See the edge.
Allow yourself to come back to your body,and whether that's go for a walk in nature
and reconnect back to yourself or do agrounding practice, whatever feels really
good for you, come back to yourself,see the edge and just walk past it.
And by walking past the edges or walkingpast the narratives or expectations
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that we think we have to do, that'swhere we really start to discover the
pieces of ourselves, the pieces of oursoul that have been calling to us for
so long, they're just waiting for us tolisten because all of a sudden we are
choosing and we're intentional arounddropping, needing to be like someone
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else, or looking out at the world andbeing like, this is how I have to fit in.
This is how I want to feel.
Oh, they're doing it thatway to feel that way.
So that's how I have to do it too.
We start to drop that andexperiment for ourselves in what
that looks like for ourselves.
And make moves that only us couldmake crazy combinations of things
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and ideas that just feel sodelicious and so blissful and we
have no idea where we are going.
'Cause that's the other big trap.
Our mind wants to see the endresult before we take the move.
But even if we can't see where weare going, it just, you just know.
You know in your bones, in your bodythat there's something here for you,
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that there's some magic here for you.
There's something you're meant to bedoing in this space and you just move.
And it's amazing because as soon asyou make the move, The edge dissolves.
'cause you're like, oh.
Oh, that's what I was afraid ofand had created this big story
about and had worried about.
In my mind, my mind is such apowerful processing tool, but it
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created so many different scenarios.
It actually didn't exist.
This is awesome, or this is not asawesome as I thought, but it's okay
because now I have a new piece ofthe puzzle and I have the known.
It's not an unknown anymore.
I'm here and I'm like, Ooh, newedge, or, Ooh, okay, cool Feedback.
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Amazing.
I'm getting to learn and know myself.
I'm getting to love myself more.
I'm getting to see my bravery.
I can see the pathway starting to open.
'cause so many times we wantthe pathway to be open and
clear before we make a move.
It's actually impossible for our brains.
To see the exact pathway of oursoul because it's not, it's not.
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What is there for the brain iseditors process information.
It's not to see pathways,it's not to see energy.
The best healers, mediums, shamans,psychics, I mean, we are all those things.
Lemme just say that a strong belief thatwe are all those things we just have
chosen whether to open it or close it.
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But Those like myself, thatare fully open and trusting.
We don't do it from our minds,we do it from our energy senses,
from our soul through our bodies.
That's how we receive.
And so the more that we can come back tothat, we start to open those channels,
those abilities, we start to see anddissolve edges even faster because all
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of a sudden we can see the ones that werereal and the ones that are manufactured,
the ones that the mind created out offear are out of story, past experience.
And then we can just keep moving onestep at a time, discover ourselves one
step at a time And it's not even aboutbecoming something at the end of the day.
It's just about coming home to self.
(33:30):
And so if there's somethingthat you've been craving to do.
But you've got an edge.
You've got a block or you'vegot a story or something that
your mind is telling you.
This is your permission to break freeof that, to start playing with those
edges, to come back to the body, tocome back to the seat of the soul.
Maybe explore your humandesign to see and connect.
(33:55):
'cause sometimes it can be helpful toknow that and be able to have a visual
to really connect back into your body.
And just take that next magicalstep into deeper of who you are.
I love you.
I hope you've enjoyedthis walking episode.
Let me know.
Send me a DM if you like it, anyfeedback that you have, and I will
(34:19):
see you in the very next episode.
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