May 29, 2025 • 49 mins
This week on the House of JerMar Podcast, transformation coach Julie-Anne Lee challenges the very foundation of how we approach our problems, suggesting that if overthinking could have solved our issues, we'd have fixed them already.
In this illuminating conversation, Julie-Anne introduces a revolutionary concept: replacing self-reliance with universe reliance. She expertly articulates why we only need to know the next step on our journey, not the entire path. "You only get the next step when you take the first step," she explains, offering a liberating perspective for entrepreneurs and high-achievers trapped in analysis paralysis.
Julie-Anne shares her personal journey from skeptical observer to devoted transformation coach, highlighting a pivotal moment when she took a financial leap of faith that changed everything. Her story exemplifies the power of trusting inspired impulses over fear-based reasoning. Drawing from 20 years of coaching experience, she reveals how our energy—not just our words—communicates with the world around us, creating our reality from the inside out.
For those struggling with people-pleasing tendencies, Julie-Anne offers a powerful reframe that will change how you view your "nice" behaviors forever. She also shares practical daily practices like meditation and journaling that have transformed both her life and her clients' lives. Whether you're seeking better relationships, career clarity, or simply more inner peace, Julie-Anne's accessible coaching methods through her app, journals, and one-on-one services provide multiple entry points for transformation.
Ready to stop overthinking and start trusting the process? Listen now and discover how to let your authentic self emerge by taking inspired action.
Julie-Anne's book recommendation: The Game of Life and How to Play It - Florence Scovel Shinn
More about Julie-Anne Lee:
Julie-Anne Lee is a Certified Transformation Coach with over 20 years of experience empowering clients to move past self-doubt, overthinking, and feeling stuck—guiding them to embody their most secure, aligned selves and create a fulfilling life that truly speaks to them.
Whether through one-on-one coaching, dynamic workshops, or innovative tools like her ALLOW App and vision journals, she offers everything you need to transform from the inside out into the person you were always meant to be and really are.
Julie-Anne’s offerings.
1:1 Coaching: Personal coaching sessions for individualized support.
Allow Coaching Membership/App: Instant Guidance & Tools to get unstuck and in alignment: Anytime, Anywhere
Nightly and Morning Vision Journals: Available on Amazon with 3 easy daily steps to help you manifest your inspired desires.
Visit Julie-Anne's website & get her Free Daily Love Nudge here. www.julie-annelee.com
IG @Julieanne.lee
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Most of my clients are recovering overthinkers, if
we're going to put a pin in it.
They're entrepreneurs in spiritand they want to know the how
and they're recoveringoverthinkers.
So my first thing is like, okay, we're not going to think
anymore, because if you had beenable to think your way there,
we would have done it already.
Correct, can you agree with meon that?
And so then it becomes aboutyou really don't need to know
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the how.
We want to know the biggerpicture on how I'm going to get
from here to there.
And the truth of the matter isyou only need to make the next
step, and you only get the nextstep when you take the first
step.
And we never really know.
Even when you feel like, oh, Ikind of know how this is going
to work out, you don't know that, you just think you know that
and it calms you down.
So that's where I reallycultivate, instead of
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self-reliance, universe reliance.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Welcome to the House of Jermar podcast, where
wellness starts within.
The House of Jermar is alifestyle brand, empowering
women to live all in throughinterior design and personal
wellness.
We are a destination for womenready to reimagine what is
possible in their homes andlives and then create it.
We are honored to have you joinus on our mission to empower 1
(01:10):
million women to live all in.
I am your host, jean Collins,and I invite you to become
inspired by this week's guest.
Welcome to the House of Jarmarpodcast, where wellness starts
within.
I'm your host, jean Collins,and today's guest is Julianne
Lee.
She is a transformational coachand we are going to talk about
some really incredible subjectsthat I really love, which is
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like inspired action.
And how do you not just sitback and wait for the universe
to deliver something for you?
How do you do it?
She's a coach, she worksone-on-one, she has an app that
you can get.
She has so many interestingthings that we can talk about.
She is friends with Tara Laurie, so, those of you who are
listening to this, tara Lauriewas a podcast guest of mine
several months ago and I justadore her.
(01:53):
I think she is just a magicalhuman being.
So anybody who reaches out tome that says that they are a
friend of Tara Laurie's, I waslike you're on, there's got to
be something really cool aboutyou.
So, julianne, it's so nice tomeet you and thank you for
coming on the show, thank you,thank you, it's an absolute joy
to be here.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
It's really great, thank you.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
Well, thank you for your time, and your website and
your bio are super impressive.
So your bio will be in the shownotes for everybody so they can
read all about it.
But I always love to sharingwhat your career journey is,
because we don't all start outone day when we're 18 years old
saying I want to be atransformation coach and I want
to work on inspired action andmindset and helping people
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manifest and create things, soshare with everybody a little
bit about your career journeyand how you got to be the
entrepreneur that you are now.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
Oh, absolutely, yeah, no idea of what a coach even
was.
I mean for myself.
I just had this.
I never knew what I wanted tobe when I grew up and it was so
painful to me Like I, whensomeone knew what they wanted to
be, I'd be like, why are younot doing it?
Do you understand?
Like you don't know what yourpassion is, you don't know what
your purpose is.
How could you know it?
And you're not doing it?
So that was just kind of who Iwas all the time.
(03:00):
And I came over here tooriginally from Australia to Los
Angeles and my thought at thetime was I wanted to make movies
and so I got into that industrya little bit and then I
realized I was kind of just likecoaching people.
I did not was coaching actually.
And then I actually heard ofsomeone got told in the house
with a life coach and I was sojudgmental I was like life coach
(03:23):
, life coach, like who the hell?
How woo, woo ridiculous is that?
Like you're going to tellpeople what to do?
Like that's just, that's justcrazy.
And then so I've always beensearching, you know, reading,
you know from back in the day,Deepak Chopra and the Artist's
Way, and all these things.
I've always been reallyinterested in that spiritual
path.
And one night I was like afriend told me to write, you
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know, a letter to the universe.
So I led to the universe andback to the universe.
What is what brings me joy andhow do you want me to be of
service in the world?
And I was like blah blah blahblah life coach.
And I'm like nothing, I'm reallyinterested in it.
Okay, next night, blah, blah,blah life coach.
I'm like, oh my God, what isthis life coach thing?
Third night life coach.
(04:06):
I'm like, okay.
So I Googled life coach.
This is 20 years ago now andjust down the street I lived in
West Hollywood at the time, justdown the street, at this
mystical like Bodhi treebookstore, there was the IPEC
Institute for ProfessionalEmpowerment Coaching was having
a talk and I was like, well, Iasked it's free, how do I not go
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?
Right?
So I go there and he talks andI'm like, oh, this is what I do.
It was like spiritual it's.
Life coaching isn't abouttelling people what to do.
It's about the answers are inyou and I get them out, which is
what I was doing all the time.
And at the time I mean I thinkback then it was like I want to
say it was $8,000 and I was, youknow, living, you know paycheck
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to paycheck, and I think I hada credit card with $8,000 on it.
I can't even believe I did thisthat.
I was like I signed up for thisyear course and it took a
little minute right for a littlecrossover.
Like I was like what do I donow?
I went to a couple of networkinggroups and started coaching a
couple of friends and and thenit just kind of grew, you know,
and and just sort of come tolike 20 years later, you know.
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And, as you said, what's atransformation coach?
Well, for me, a transformationcoach is like you are this way
and you know, then you becomewhat you actually truly are,
without all your fears andinsecurities and lack of
self-worth, basically.
So you transform into the lifethat you're actually meant to be
living, which you know, I havegreat experience in that.
So it's kind of like how I gothere, which is just all
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hilarious really when you lookat it.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
Oh, but I love your story.
You are not the first personthat I've spoken to that has
commented about making aninvestment in themselves and
what they feel like is supposedto be their path when they feel
like they can't afford it.
And they do it anyway becausesomething draws them to do it
and to just figure it out.
And I love that you shared thatpart of the story because it
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demonstrates that not only didyou not have it all figured out
like it wasn't, like you waiteduntil you had this money, you
jumped in.
You jumped in with two feet andthen we're like somehow it's
going to work itself out.
And I wonder if that helpsattract clients to you because
of your approach of that,instead of the, I'm going to
wait until everything is allaligned and it feels like
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everything's ready.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
Absolutely, absolutely.
I think youth might've helped alittle bit there as well.
To be honest, I think thathappens Like I've got friends
and stuff right and we're likeone just took off to travel
around the world and she's, youknow, mid-age and she's like,
wow, I used to do this, I'm justa little bit more thoughtful of
it, but she's doing it anyway.
But if the regards to yourquestion about you know, a lot
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of people and I will say most ofmy clients are recovering
overthinkers, if we're going toput a pin in it.
They're entrepreneurs in spiritand they want to know the how
and they're recoveringoverthinkers.
So my first thing is like okay,we're not going to think
anymore, because if you had beenable to think your way there,
we would have done it already,correct?
Can you agree with me on that?
Of course, yeah, right.
(07:12):
And so then it becomes about youreally don't need to know the
how.
What we want to know is we wantto know the bigger picture on
how I'm going to get from hereto there.
And the truth of the matter isyou only need to make the next
step and you only get the nextstep when you take the first
step.
And we never really know, evenwhen you feel like, oh, I kind
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of know how this is going towork out.
You don't know that, you justthink you know that and it calms
you down.
So that's where I reallycultivate, instead of
self-reliance, universe reliance, because that really calms
people down when you increaseyour trust in yourself and I
think of universes, like in yourhighest self, the extension of
you, that's connected to all.
So if you're tapping into thatpower, you might be able to
relax that there's a betterknowing of the next step.
(07:57):
And so when you get inspiredwith that thought, before you
talk yourself out of it right,before I talk myself out of it-
what the hell are you doing?
Speaker 2 (08:04):
Like how are you?
Speaker 1 (08:04):
going to pay back this $8,000?
Like before, I was down on thetable right, I trusted the
impulse, yes and so, because Iknew it was from faith.
So I always do that gut checktoo.
It's like there's the impulse.
Is this faith or fear?
It's faith, okay, do it, youknow.
So it just this taking leapsapproach to life and then, as
you accumulate the experience ofit working out, you know your
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trust in your not needing toknow definitely develops.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
But it's a practice ongoing practice oh, ongoing,
yes, I can relate to so much ofwhat you said, because I've done
all of those things and havingto trust myself is a constant
exercise and I think so manyentrepreneurs and especially
female executives likeoverthinking is like the name of
the game, you know.
(08:51):
It's like we plot, we plan,we're type A, and it's like the
universe is not type A.
So it's learning how to not bethat way is really where a coach
like yourself is so helpful.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
Absolutely, and because it is about action.
Right, it's about action, butit's got to start with the
thought and belief first, andthat's most of our work, and
that's why I call my appAllowing, because it's not about
doing and making somethinghappen, it's about letting it
come through.
You know, it's almost like I'vegot this one client I was
working with and like things areunfolding so easily.
(09:25):
She's like it feels weird forlife to be so easy.
Like I've thought and worriedabout so many things for so long
that and I say this to clientsI'm like when things start
happening, you're so used toliving in the wanting that
having is weird, like it'sstrange.
That's when you'll see peopleget into self-sabotage.
It's like we're not practicedat having, we're practiced at
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wanting, so it's such a funjourney.
It becomes a whole game reallyof life.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
Well, and we expect it to be hard.
Yes, so if something is nothard, it feels weird, at least
to me.
If it's not hard and you don'thave to work hard for it, then
it feels weird, like okay,where's the catch?
Speaker 1 (10:25):
us.
You know every which way andshape with the, you know the
propensity and the pace at whichthe world is gaining momentum
at, and you know, and so it's.
It's really challenging to staysteadfast in.
I'm enough, I do enough, andfrom that place, that point of
attraction, that's your truepower.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
Yeah, how do you help people?
Cause you've mentioned thisword and it's in your bio too
self-doubt, which I think is areally big one for people.
So if you wouldn't mind talkingabout, give us some examples of
how you help people tackleself-doubt, and this is not a
one and done session for all ofus.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
Yeah, yeah, wouldn't it be great if it was.
I'm going to try to put it in apill form and we'll mark it and
we'll make millions.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
Yeah, yeah, wouldn't it be great though if it was,
I'm going to try to put it in apill form and we'll market it
and we'll make millions.
Right, wouldn't that be awesome.
But give a little like a peekunder the window.
If I came to you and I said youknow what my limiting belief is
self-doubt how would you helpsomeone like me?
Speaker 1 (11:15):
And it's interesting because self-doubt shows itself
in everywhere, right?
So self-doubt I think there'sthe biggest disease in the world
.
I call it LSE.
It's low self-esteem, becauseit affects everything you do in
your life and when you makechoices from that, it never ends
well.
So self-doubt is like we talkabout, whether it's in
relationships you might comewith regard to, you might come
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with self-doubt around finances,health, what your life purpose
is, or just you know you wantmore inner calm and inner peace
in your life purposes, or justyou know you want more inner
calm and inner peace in yourlife.
So it becomes a process thatI've been doing with clients,
like I take them through aseries of internal steps that I
call whole life steps, basicallyto reset.
So we actually go back and welook at what's the source like,
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where did this self-doubt comefrom?
Because if we don't get back tothe source and we get to the
core issue and we re-perceivethat from now as an adult and
re-acclimate it, we can just dosurface things, but if we don't
change it at the core, it'salways going to flip back.
So it's very challenging work.
You know some minds are like,oh, this is really challenging.
(12:21):
I'm like, yes, it is, but inorder to get the tree out we
have to get the roots.
We want substantial, consistenttransformation and we don't
want to have to come back and dothis again.
So if you're doubting yourselfin relationships, for example,
and you have a lot of women comeand they may be looking for
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someone.
They've had past experiencesthat aren't great, so they doubt
that they can choose someone.
They doubt that someone's outthere that you know they can't
have it all.
There's just doubt across theboard.
And so we go to like where'sthat doubt come from?
Like, why do you doubt that?
And a lot of it stems to theythink that they have to do it
(13:04):
all.
Like they think it's somethingoutside of themselves that they
need to get.
Instead of what I do is I haveanother set of steps.
I take clients through fourrelationships.
Basically, it's the antithesisof what I do in relationships.
I get them to the point wherethey don't actually need or want
a relationship.
They're so secure in themselvesand they're vibrating at this
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empowered, beautifulrelationship with themselves,
doing what they love in theirlife, that in order for anyone
to come into their life, theybetter add something of great
value right.
And now they're attracting froma place of wholeness, so
they're not going to attract, mrAffirm my Self Doubt.
They're not going to attract.
Mr Affirm my Self-Doubt.
They're not going to attractall these things that they
previously had tracked.
(13:50):
And that's one of the things Ilove working on with people,
like relationships, because wethink it's about the other
person and in these stepsthere's like 20 steps, but only
the first step is about otherpeople.
Yeah, that's it Right.
Right, because it all comes in.
So once you build that muscleright so it's a daily practice
the self-doubt muscle has beenbuilt, it's been practiced, it's
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a thought that's been repeated,that became a belief, and so
I'm learning that it takes aminute, you know.
So we get to the core of it.
How do we change that?
And then what are the practicesand new beliefs and then
actions that we put into ourdaily basis until we catch up to
actually, oh, that becomes ournew belief.
Now, sometimes it'll switch,you know, but it's usually a
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wobble dance where we're like,oh, it's new.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
Oh, you know, oh, and that's where coaching comes in
because we speak every week.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
So there's this accountability that you're going
to get stuff done.
I'm on your team, but I'm alsogoing to be like I'm not going
to let your self-doubt dictateyour life anymore.
You're going to come from thatconfident universe, connected
self.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
Yes, which I like.
Now you mentioned somethingelse.
You mentioned energy and kindof getting your vibrational
energy to the right place.
Talk about how important youfeel that energy is and people
tapping into their energy interms of coaching.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
There is nothing more important.
So if I could be a drug pusher,it would be called meditation.
There is nothing more important.
So if I could be a drug pusher,it would be called meditation.
It would.
I took this is what's funnybecause I would have been my
worst client.
I'm so like mm-hmm show meMm-hmm, okay, mm-hmm.
I was told to meditate.
It took me 10 years to actuallydo it and it literally.
(15:39):
You know people say what ismeditation Like?
Very simply, it's the practiceof having a thought and letting
it go.
Having a thought and that'swhat meditation is and that
allows your perception and yourway of being in life to
completely change.
Like, my mind literally is notthe same mind that I once had
previously.
So if and this is my beliefeverything in the world is a
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reflection of my internal state,energy is number one.
I don't need to change anythingon the outside world in order
to feel okay.
And that's where that innerpeace and inner calm comes,
because I'm in control of myresponses.
I'm in control of what goes onin between my ears.
I'm in control of what goes onin between my ears and I believe
that you know, it's a law ofattraction universe.
(16:26):
It's a like attracts, likeuniverse.
You know, even us speakingtoday and meeting Laurie and
just these like-minded energiesstarting to draw together, you
know, because that's where it'sat and it's like I give people
this example of how importantenergy is.
You know, if you're out at aclub, right, and you walk into
the bar, you can immediatelytell who's who, right.
(16:50):
You're like oh, that one, he'sout to blah, blah, blah or she's
not really confident in herself.
You don't even have aconversation.
So we're walking aroundspeaking to life, not with our
words, but how we feel aboutourselves.
Yeah, and that's how much powerwe have.
We don't have to change theworld.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
Right, I get so excited because I'm like you can
literally change your wholelife just by changing your
relationship to yourself.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
Oh, I couldn't agree more.
Yeah, it has to start fromwithin.
It is.
It's super exciting and I thinkit's probably really exciting
for your clients to see yourpassion Like.
I can feel your energy rise asyou start to talk about it and I
would think it would be reallyhard for your clients to not
want to be like Ooh, I want whatare you drinking?
Like.
I want some of that, is thatRed?
Speaker 1 (17:38):
Bull.
What is that?
That's going on?
Speaker 2 (17:40):
in here over there, because I kind of want some of
that.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
What I love, too, is when they start to see the
results in their lives.
Right, either they'll leave arelationship or they'll get into
a relationship.
Or their finances start to riseup, or they feel like, oh my
God, this is what my purpose is,and they get on that road Like
everything syncs up just whenthey do this inner work yeah,
(18:04):
and they take action, but youknow we've got to take action.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
Yes, they have to take action.
How do you help clientsidentify action?
What is what?
Speaker 1 (18:14):
is action, well inspired action, so it usually
comes up from within.
So I, when I started, I waslike talking about the letter to
the universe.
That's a massive tool aboutconnecting to your higher self.
It's so funny.
I gave it to my sister the veryfirst time.
I'm like, okay, write a letterto the universe, she wants to
know something.
And I spoke to her a couple ofdays later.
I go.
So what did the universe say?
She's like I'm still waiting.
(18:34):
I go, I'm so sorry, I didn'tmake a click.
You need to write the letterback.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
She's like oh, it's not like Santa Claus.
He's not just going to deliverit the next morning Like poof on
the counter.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
Yes.
So it's like I mean, I love,you know, my clients are,
they're doers, right, so theylove to do a list, they love to
do a thing.
And it's like, okay, you know,write up your list, we'll
brainstorm, we'll get all thesetangibles, we'll ask the
universe to guide us, and thenit'll just present itself and I
say, well, what's the firstthing you can do?
Like, if someone wants to gethealthier right, it's not like
I'm going to lose X amount ofpounds.
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I come back to like, do we justneed to start by drinking more
water?
Like, what's the first actionyou can take that points you in
the direction of where you wantto go?
Speaker 2 (19:22):
And it just will start to flow and come.
You know and you mentionedsomething before that applies
here recognizing your responseto the question of what does the
universe want from you as aninstinctual response or a
fear-based response, becausethere is a big difference and
coaches like you can help peopleidentify what really is the
instinctual response, eventhough it might feel a little
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absurd to people.
So they go back to what's therational response.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
Yeah, which is often fear based.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
Yeah, we always default to what's like.
Well, I want to say it's this,but that sounds ridiculous.
Like you know who am, I?
Speaker 1 (19:57):
Who am I to have it all?
Who am I to think?
Speaker 2 (20:00):
that I could be a famous writer, like, okay, I'm
not going to put that as myanswer.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
Yeah, I'm going to give that internal torture to
myself?
Speaker 2 (20:06):
Yes, Correct, but teaching people how to be able
to listen to that is a trueskill that people can really
benefit from.
Coaches like yourself to learnhow to listen to that instinct
and have enough, have gottenpast enough self-doubt that you
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can get to the self-trust to belike, hmm, that's coming up,
it's coming up again.
It's coming up again.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
It's going to keep coming up until it smacks me in
the face Every time.
By the time people actuallycall me, like I'm already
commending them on their courage, you know, because it's like
you, you believe in yourselfenough and your soul is like I'm
done with whatever how thingsare, that I'm willing to put
myself in an uncomfortablesituation and get the guidance
that I need, like I'm alreadylike.
(20:51):
So brave, right, they picked upthe phone Right.
Mission started.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
Yeah.
So let's talk about your life alittle bit, and I'm always
curious about you know well, youmentioned meditation.
But like, what does wellnessmean in your life and how do you
maintain balance and grounding?
Because I think sometimespeople think like, oh, she's a
life coach, she's got it allgoing on, she doesn't have to
work at anything, and you and Iboth know that's not true, yeah,
(21:17):
so if you wouldn't mind sharewith people a little of the
reality, of what you work onevery day and what does your
life look like and what are thethings that you do that you
suggest your clients try to do.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
Oh, absolutely Well, meditation is number one, you
know, and it's not for me aboutdoing it perfectly, it's like
when you can get to it.
You know, in an ideal world Iwake up, I use my morning vision
journal.
Ideal world I wake up, I use mymorning vision journal.
Meditation is at the end ofthat Great get about my day.
What it normally looks like issleeping up.
Are you out of bed?
Kids, get in the car, let's goRight, and then I'll come back.
And before clients start, Iwill do that.
(21:53):
And it's actually funny becausemy clients, my clients, my
children I have a 15 year oldnow and a 13 year old, so
they're a little bit older, butwhen they were little too,
they'd come to talk to thebedroom and they'd be like I'm
meditating.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
Because I'm talking to her we can't talk to her now
Like I'd be like listening toher.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
It's so funny, but it really is like for me, the
wellness part of it has to be apriority, like it means
sometimes I don't pick up thephone to a friend.
Sometimes I don't pick up thephone to a friend, sometimes I
just need to get that done, orI'll text them and be like I'll
get back to you in a little bit,but I need to make time to
connect to myself because I'm asingle mom.
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I have two kids, I have abusiness, I have a dog and it
could be a lot if I thought Ihad to do things perfectly,
whereas it's like, you know, no,it's not.
So it's like for me.
I do a lot of writing because Ifind that writing things out
really works for me, you know,and it's just yeah, I love it,
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and so that's really great.
Lists are great, affirmationsare great, you know, and it's
really kind of like with clients.
You know they're busy.
I'm like, put your affirmationson your phone.
Yeah, put them on a bit ofpaper by the toilet At some time
during the day you're going touse the bathroom.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
Why not read your affirmations then?
Speaker 1 (23:08):
It really doesn't matter.
Like do you?
Speaker 2 (23:10):
know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
I'm like just incorporate it into your day
Like you want this to be a wayof being, it's sort of a
lifestyle, as opposed to I'mgoing to pick this up and then
I'm going to go do my life.
It's like oh, how do I becomethis version of myself where I'm
embodying it?
Speaker 2 (23:34):
You know perfectly said that this is a lifestyle,
but it's not.
You know which.
I think for some people that'sa challenge, because we live in
a society that's a quick fix.
People want to take a pill andlose 20 pounds and yeah in the
world they do now, sometimeslose 20 pounds.
And in the world of personalgrowth and inner development and
really getting in touch withyourself and getting inner peace
(23:54):
.
There is no pill, it is notquick, and so it is baby steps
to changing your lifestyle andchanging your priorities.
So I love that you said thatbecause that's important.
Priorities are so important,especially as women.
It's impossible to be perfectat all of our roles.
It is just an impossible goal.
So why bother?
Speaker 1 (24:12):
Let yourself off the hook, stop it and I'm very quiet
with clients.
So I'm like if it makes youfeel bad, don't do it and stop
thinking it.
And they're like, okay, oh, whoam I to do that?
And I'm like it's just start bymaking a small choice.
I go, cause sometimes it'sreally uncomfortable for clients
, right, when you've been apeople pleaser, a lot of my
clients are people pleasers,right, and I'm I give them the
(24:36):
definition.
I go actually people pleasingis really selfish.
They're like, oh, and I'm like,no, because you're actually
trying to make yourself feelbetter at the cost of another
person.
So it's actually you thinkyou're being nice and you are,
your intentions are good, butyou're actually serving yourself
, you know.
So let's go to really servingyourself, which is really
(24:56):
changing your relationship withyourself.
So it's just, you know, reallyputting that practice in of
catching your thought, turningyour thought, you know,
throughout the day, and sort oflike, how do I be in charge of
what I'm thinking now as opposedto what I'm thinking being in
charge of me?
Speaker 2 (25:15):
Right, yes, yes, you're guiding your ship instead
of being guided.
And how much of what you do inyour life and in your day are
you doing the guiding?
Speaker 1 (25:26):
Yes, yeah.
And how much are you listeningto outside influence instead of
yourself, when you are with youliterally 24 hours a day?
Yeah, you have not.
What goes on between your ears?
No one has privy to it, unlessthey're a mind reader.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
Most of the time, and even then your mind is talking
all day long to you, so there'sstuff going on all day, exactly
so why wouldn't you make thatconversation fantastic?
Speaker 1 (25:54):
I'm sorry, and I do remember my thought, because
clients, when they're peoplepleasers, it's very challenging
them to think they don't evenknow what they want.
I didn't know what my favoritecolor was.
I was a people pleaser.
I didn't know what do I like.
Well, I don't know.
What do you mean?
Like I just what do you want?
What do you want to have forlunch?
Yes, Right, so I get them tostart practicing family plans,
(26:17):
whatever.
Just say what you prefer.
Yeah, just start like, ifthere's a choice, start
listening to what you wouldprefer and choose what you
prefer, and let's start buildingthat muscle and get to know
yourself Right.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
And getting comfortable in what makes you
feel uncomfortable, becausethat's not your conditioned way
of being yeah, so you have tomove into it, and if someone's
got an opinion exactly, and it'slike you can give your
preference and then someone elsecan give their preference.
Speaker 1 (26:48):
Then you have a conversation Like you're not
stepping on someone's toes bygiving your preference, and you
know what's very interesting,though, too, when you have been
a people pleaser all your lifeand you do start to make that
change people around you.
They don't like it becausethey're like oh, you normally do
what I want you to do.
That makes me feel good.
(27:08):
Like what do you mean?
You have an opinion, like it'suncomfortable a little bit.
Some people will be yourcheerleaders that are like, oh
my God, finally.
And then other people are likethe way you agree to this
relationship was you make mefeel good, and so you.
Sometimes, when you transform,you transform out of
relationships.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
Yes, which I was just going to ask you that Do you
find that a lot of your clientsend up having to change some of
their relationships or changetheir social circles as they
transform into being more theirtrue, authentic selves?
Speaker 1 (27:44):
100%, because the people you've attracted were
attracted to that old version ofyourself.
Now there will be people inthat friend group that will
evolve and change with you.
If they're not, it's not somuch of like, well, I'm going to
break up with you now.
It's just, it becomes not amatch and it'll fall away
organically.
It just is natural because itjust doesn't behoove you.
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And then sometimes you're inthe hallway and you're like I
kind of feel like I'm on my ownnow universe.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
Kind of my buddies are all down there, don't?
Speaker 1 (28:15):
really see anything going on there.
You just got to be comfortableand it changes, you know, in a
minute.
And then all of a sudden youmeet these other like-minded
people, still growing, butyou've got, like this, the same
sort of growth mindset I'll callit.
You know, which is just so.
Then, when you have aconversation with someone,
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you've got two people who arelooking inward first before
projecting their stuff onto you.
Right, right, much more fun tolive that way, so much better.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
Yes, it is, but it's also scary.
I think, from the people thatI've met, it is a terrifying
journey to sign up for wantingto work with a transformational
coach, knowing, knowing thatlife is going to change and
you're going to change and yourlife is going to change and
having the courage to recognizethat, yes, that probably means
(29:06):
some of the people, noteverybody, but that means that
some of the people in your lifewill probably need to phase out,
but the good news is new peoplewill phase in.
Speaker 1 (29:15):
Mm-hmm, yeah, and sometimes it betters the
relationships.
I've got clients that come thatmaybe were like and it's so
funny, a couple of them werelike I know I don't want to be
with my marriage, but I'm neverleaving because of fear.
And a couple of years laterwe're like okay, so they've left
.
And they're like oh my God,because it's like neither of you
were happy.
(29:35):
But there's this construct orthis belief system.
They have to make it work.
And it's like you know, if youreally love someone, set them
free, right, so give yourselfthat gift.
But it was at the first likeliterally they'll be like and
don't even tell me about leavingmy husband, cause I'm not going
to do it.
I'm like okay, fine, that'swhere we're starting.
I don't know, because I don'tknow what the end result.
(30:02):
I don't have an agenda as acoach, right?
I'm not like you should do thiswith life.
I'm like let's discover whatyour authentic self and soul is
calling and guiding you towards.
You know I'll call BS when Iknow you're making up stories to
yourself because it'suncomfortable.
But you know, only youultimately know what's your
authentic.
You know what resonates withyou as you're calling and people
say well, how do you know, andI'm like it's that old, it's
like you know when.
(30:22):
You know, you know when youdon't know yeah, if you don't
know, it's a no or not.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
Yet you know, yeah, and you probably do know.
You're just not ready yet toface what you know.
Speaker 1 (30:32):
Yeah, it's it's.
It takes a lot of courage, youknow.
That's why I don't thinkcoaching is for everybody.
You know a lot of people I hadthe mistake of.
I was in a relationship onetime and I thought, you know,
being the so nice person that Iam, I thought of course you want
to change and grow.
And then I had the realizationof like, oh no, you like your
life how it is.
I'm so sorry that I wasthinking you should be X, y, z
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and reach your potential.
Like, no, you get to do yourlife how you want to do it.
I'm.
You know I apologize becausethat's uncool of me to expect
you to change, because that's myjourney, that I want to be on
that path and that's important.
Speaker 2 (31:12):
That's such an important point because it's the
choice that we're making forourselves and it's hard to not
want to judge other people thatdon't want to be.
Speaker 1 (31:19):
Especially when you're right.
I'm just joking.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
No, it's true, but it's like when you, when this is
what you do for a living andyou live in this space of
coaching and personaldevelopment and self-growth,
it's like sometimes I'm likewhat do you mean?
You don't want to do some oflike, how do you not want to be
better?
Like, really, you think you'reperfect.
It is hard not to judge thatpersonally.
Speaker 1 (31:40):
And they want to stay in the problem.
You know like, oh, you justlike talking about the problem.
Speaker 2 (31:50):
Yeah, but you're right, some people that is
that's their space or that'stheir space for now, and they
haven't.
They're not on the same journeyand you have to respect them
for that and kindly just havethem stay on the outskirts of
your life, because too much ofthat energy on you is actually
not a positive either.
Speaker 1 (32:03):
Absolutely yeah, absolutely Cool.
Speaker 2 (32:06):
So who are your ideal clients?
Speaker 1 (32:09):
I would say most of my clients are women and I do
have a few men as well.
Most of them are entrepreneurs,you know and really just sort
of figuring out who they are.
They're either wanting tofigure out their life purpose
they're either wanting to be inor change a relationship.
They are.
I would say the through line is, as I said, we're sort of
coming from that people-pleasing, overthinking sort of do do, do
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want to figure it out, sort ofmindset, instead of cultivating
that faith and trust and slowingdown and ease.
And so I think it's just really, you know women who.
They're just ready, they'reready to not give a BS anymore.
They're ready to be who theyreally are.
They're ready to just be likeyou know what I want to do life,
like I've been doing theshoulds, you know, and I'm not
(32:57):
happy, you know it's notfulfilling.
You know and I'm not happy, youknow it's not fulfilling.
Is this it, you know?
And so they're just like.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
They're ripe, ripe to be like I'm ready to do the
work to to be me now do mostpeople come to you and think
I'll work with her for a couplemonths and then I'll be good,
and then they stay for years andthen they stay for years.
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:18):
And some people ebb and flow, right, because it's
like, as I said, you know, weare so used to wanting that when
we get it like so people, we doall the work, they meet the
fantastic relationship.
They may go off for a bit andthen they come back and they're
like okay, now all my shit'scoming up for real.
I'm like, yeah, because youhaven't been used to having
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right and so I have people thatcome and go.
I've had people that.
I've had a couple of peoplethat have like pretty much been
from the start.
You know, because their life'sconstantly evolving and because
they're a lot of them areentrepreneurs, I end up being
like their silent businesspartner, right, because they're
entrepreneurs.
They may even have a couple ofpeople working for them, but
they can't talk about theirworries, fears, stuff or
business planning.
Like we do business planning,we do tangible things as well.
(34:03):
So it's like I've kind of likegrown with their business but
I'm kind of like theirconsultant guider, you know gut
check, yeah, and also planner,you're the check-in.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
You're the check-in with someone that you know has
their right intention and is inthe right space to help with
that gut check and can ask theright questions to uncover the
right answers where that doesn'tnecessarily come from a spouse
or a friend or a businesspartner.
Speaker 1 (34:28):
You're hitting on something really, really
important about coaching, whichmakes coaching, as a coach
yourself to you know.
It stands out that everyoneelse in your life has an agenda,
because what you do will affectthem Totally.
I love you, but it's not goingto affect my life, yeah right,
exactly, it's not.
Speaker 2 (34:43):
I love you, but I'm going to go on and go do my
stuff.
Totally.
The call is over and I'm movingon.
Yeah, I'm like next Love you tobits and pieces.
Speaker 1 (34:52):
I'm not going to be worried about whatever's going
on later on how I am, and sowhen you're working with a coach
, you get a bit like my agendais your agenda, it's what's best
for you because nothing affectsme in your life, whereas you
don't get like there's no realmom, dad, brother, sister,
(35:16):
sibling, friend there in yourlife.
Whatever you do is going tohave an impact and if they say
it's not, they're going to go.
Speaker 2 (35:19):
what's this going to mean for me, of course, or how
is this going to make me feelabout myself if you're doing
this for you because we're stillfriends, and am I going to look
at you and feel like I am doingnothing or I'm less, than
because you're off doing allthis work and building and
growing?
And it's such a differentdynamic when you work with a
coach.
So let me ask you do you have acoach?
Speaker 1 (35:40):
for yourself.
I do not currently have a coachfor myself.
I am a very big researcher,however, like I'm always
evolving and researching andlearning and reading, and I'm a
systems person.
So I love to go back to the1900s and actually like if I was
to say my coaches are, thatwould be like Louise Hay 1900s
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and actually like if I was tosay my coaches are, that would
be like Louise Hay, florenceScovushian you know I do love
Esther Hicks.
There's a new guy, basher, Ilisten to and then I have a
couple of friends that we're onthis same path.
And, to be absolutelytransparent too, laurie and I,
like we, we have a meeting eachweek.
Yeah, like a business sort ofaccountability meeting so I
could say technically we'recoaching each other, so it's
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like, yeah, my life is set up ina way that sort of is fostering
it constantly, you know.
So I'm really grateful for that.
Speaker 2 (36:30):
And it goes back to your point about lifestyle,
continual learning.
I feel like for people that arein coaching, for people that
are in spirituality, personalgrowth, trying to become their
best selves, find their trueself, have as much positive
energy, attract what they wantto attract, manifestation, all
of those categories, people thatare interested in those
categories, there's continuallearning and it's part of what
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we do every day, whether it belistening to a podcast or
watching something on YouTube orreading a book or you know
there's so much or just evenspending time inward is part of
that journey and is part of thatwork Constantly working on
growing because it's not like,it's not a destination.
You're not done.
Speaker 1 (37:11):
No, no no, there's never there.
There's never there.
Speaker 2 (37:14):
There's never there.
Yes, so for people who don'twant to dive in with one-on-one
coaching, I know you offer otherways that people can tap into
you and your brilliance, soshare a little bit about that,
thank you.
Speaker 1 (37:25):
Yeah, I have the journals, the morning vision
journals for people that like towrite.
They're just simple three steps, you know, top of the morning,
end of your day, you know checkin, you get all ground is
covered with that.
And then I also have a coachingapp, the Allow Coaching app,
which I really love in that ithas well, I think I'm going to
change a little bit actually,because I want to make it even
more proactive, where you getlike a daily action and
(37:48):
accountability and have it in acommunity.
So you're actually, I'm inthere, I'll give the action a
day, and then you get to saydone or not done, but not make
it overwhelming, because I thinkwe have so much going on, yeah.
And so there's like trainingsin there.
There's all the tools I use inthere, there's how to meditate
in there, there's an audio bookin there, there's a little mini
course in there.
There's lots of free stuff too,because I think, you're right,
(38:10):
people don't know me like youwant to get to know each other.
And then I have like the proallow membership, which is, you
know, actually when people jointhe membership, I like to do a
one-on-one call with them,because I'm not so much about
you know, sort of about doingthings differently.
I'm not about getting thesereally big numbers and having X,
(38:30):
y, z.
I'm about connection, and so tohave a 20 minute conversation
with someone on the app beforethey jump in to working on the
app, so we know each other.
So when I'm talking to you inthe app, we've already got a
connection.
Yes, and then for some peopletoo, they want to continue to
have coaching in the app.
Speaker 2 (38:54):
So I have the ProAllow membership where you
can direct message me and voicenote me and I'll get back to you
within 24 hours.
Speaker 1 (39:00):
Oh, that's cool and help you, yeah, so it's kind of
like me in your pocket a littlebit.
Yes, and it's a really greatway for you to maybe get
introduced to coaching with nota big investment, right, you
know, because if you just wantto be on the app, it's like $29
a month, and if you want adirect coach with me and it's
only $59 a month, which ispretty reasonable yes,
(39:20):
reasonable to get an actualhuman being.
I'm a person.
It's not an AI generatedresponse.
It's me sitting there.
You might even hear my kids inthe background as I leave a
voice note.
That's what's going to happen.
Speaker 2 (39:32):
But that's authentic and you kind of sometimes need
that personal one-on-one touchand sometimes, just as you're
thinking about things, it'sgreat to have a human being that
you know has your back and youcan ask a question of or pose
something to.
That will get back to youquickly, that you know you're
like.
Okay, I align with thatperson's methodology, their way
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of thinking, their way ofcoaching, without having to be
fully all in.
Speaker 1 (39:59):
Yeah, and that knows a little bit about you.
Right, You're not just a number, You're not just a person and
it's a bigger comment.
But I really feel like we'reand I love America, but we're a
little about the more, more,more concept instead about the
deeper, deeper, deeperconnection ripple effect.
So I might not need people, Ithink, have this idea of like
you need to reach, like I mightnot need you know people, I
(40:20):
think, have this idea of likeyou need to reach thousands of
people and it's like or you havereally solid transformation
with a few people and thatripples out to the people they
know, and then that ripples outto the people they know, and
then that has impact, correct?
Speaker 2 (40:33):
Yeah, yeah, well, I think a lot of women are craving
connection in a variety of ways, and that looks different for
everybody, but I think the themeof connection, especially for
women at least all the womenthat I talk to and interact with
there is a true desire to wantto connect with more like-minded
women while they're on theirpersonal growth journey.
Speaker 1 (40:53):
Yeah, yeah, and just to be seen right, because I
think technology is great, right, it's like anything, it's great
, depending on how you use it.
Speaker 2 (41:03):
Yeah, of course.
Speaker 1 (41:03):
You know if you use it to compare yourself not so
much fun.
Speaker 2 (41:05):
No, right, exactly how are you using social media?
Speaker 1 (41:08):
Yeah, Not great, but there's some really great stuff
out there too.
Great stuff, you know, likeyour podcast right?
Yeah, Like there's great stuff.
You know that's really helpfuland beneficial.
It's just where do you put yourattention and you can't do it
all, so you just pick a coupleof pods that speak to you Right,
exactly, and just listen tothose.
Speaker 2 (41:26):
So what's on your bucket list for your future?
Either personally orprofessionally, my future.
Speaker 1 (41:33):
Oh, my goodness, I do want to take a trip to Paris.
Since you asked, it's alwaysbeen on my bucket list.
Yes, I'd love to go there withmy partner.
That'd be fantastic.
I really want to get this.
You know my app.
Really.
It's got a few people on there,it's got my clients on there
because I give it to them forfree, but I'm like I haven't
really promoted that, to behonest.
So I'm like I should probablydo that.
I'm very good at making things.
I make journals, I make thesethings.
(41:53):
I'm not so good at puttingmyself out there and marketing.
So that will probably be agrowth opportunity for me.
So this speaking to you is likemy foray into this new version
of myself, for gettingcomfortable, of putting myself
out there.
So thank you for that.
Good for you, yeah, so I'm just, I'm just excited to, like you
know, really walk the talk, youknow, and be a demonstration of
(42:17):
you know, follow your passionand and the money comes and the
love comes and all that stuffcomes.
Like everything, your dreamlife is already within you,
right, and it's just letting it,letting yourself match it.
Yes, you know, and so the morepeople I can help do that.
I'm just like okay, life isgood, Life is done, it's
(42:38):
fantastic.
Speaker 2 (42:39):
Yes, well, I'm going to read a quote of something
that you sent to me, which isyou don't get what you want, you
get what you are.
Speaker 1 (42:47):
And I thought that was so powerful, I thought that
was really great.
Speaker 2 (42:50):
That summarizes what you do really really well, Thank
you.
Speaker 1 (42:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (42:54):
So thank you for that .
So before we go, I love to askmy guests to recommend a book
that has impacted thempersonally or professionally,
and you and I didn't talk aboutthis in advance, so hopefully
it's okay that I asked thatquestion.
I forgot to remind you but Ifeel like books change lives and
there's a lot people can learnfrom just spending 25 or $20 on
(43:15):
a book and reading a book andreally learning from someone
else's wisdom and experience.
So is there a book that youwould like to recommend?
Speaker 1 (43:23):
I'm going to share what it is anyway, and then I'll
catch up whatever.
So this book was written today,a hundred years ago it is, yeah
, a hundred years ago by a woman, self-published back in 1925,
called the Game of Life and howto Play it.
I knew you were going to saythat Florence Scovel Shenton.
Yeah, now I feel like I'm likeairing on a bit of
(43:43):
self-promotion.
I am a little bit because thatbook I give to every client.
When we start I'm going okay,this is your first step, you're
going to read this book, andwhat happened was hers was very
religious, a lot of religiousconnotations and stuff.
So connotations and stuff.
So because it was public domain, I went in and changed it all
to universe Good, and I changedall the male pronouns to neutral
(44:04):
because it was all he, he, he.
And I'm like, okay, my smokeglands are female, so I took all
the religious stuff out, I tookall the male pronouns out, and
then I summarized her becauseshe never really put it into
steps, so I summarized them inthe back.
So, and I call it the universeversion I wrote that book and
rewrote that book, edited.
I should say she wrote the book,edited that book.
So many times I will still openup that book and be like what
(44:27):
is that?
Like that's, it's like thismagical little haven that she
did and I just am so blown awaythat she self-published it a
hundred years ago.
Speaker 2 (44:38):
A hundred years ago.
It is a 1925.
It is truly, and it's a tinylittle read, it's tiny and it's
not that well written.
Speaker 1 (44:46):
Bless the cotton socks, it's really not.
I'm like this is not aliterature, this is not.
This is like take what you wantand leave the rest.
It's bare bones.
It's just to the point and someof the examples are old school,
but the message it's and I saythis to people all the time I go
it's all the same stuff.
People are just saying it indifferent ways and whichever way
(45:06):
speaks to you, that's great andyou can't hear it enough times.
Speaker 2 (45:09):
Yeah, I love her.
However, it resonates and yougo back again and again and
again.
Yes, that's a good one.
Thank you so much Before wejump off, is there anything that
you wanted to communicate?
Wanted to say that I did notspecifically ask you Because I
want to make sure all my guestsget the chance to talk about
everything they want to talkabout, even if I miss the
opportunity to ask.
Speaker 1 (45:29):
There's a lot of people in this industry and you
might feel pressured to do X, y,z, but I think, like yourself
and myself, like when I saywe'll have a 20 minute call,
it's not a sales pitch.
It's like get something out ofthe call.
If it's a value to you and youwant to get on the app and you
want to work together, that'sgreat.
But I'm not about selling.
It's got to be a match on bothends.
(45:50):
So don't let your head talkyourself out of things because
of fear, of you know of, I'mgoing to be put in a position
where I might, you know, beuncomfortable.
It's like it's just about ifsomething's for you, it's for
you, and if it's not for you,then something else will be.
But you took a first step, youknow.
So I guess that's the onlything is like just with coaching
(46:12):
.
It's like there's, you know,been at this for 20 years now.
It's like it's a long time andit's evolved so much.
It's so interesting to see howit's going and just it is really
beautiful that it's become likeit's not a weird word anymore
anymore.
Yes, like, like coach is not astrange word.
Like actually, like manifest isnot a strange word anymore.
Speaker 2 (46:32):
No, no, universe is an okay term, weird yeah
universe is like we're not.
Speaker 1 (46:37):
We're met with a not as opposed to woo, woo.
What's she?
Talking about Yep.
Speaker 2 (46:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (46:41):
No, but thank you.
You've covered more than allbases.
Speaker 2 (46:44):
This has just been an absolute joy, oh, my pleasure
to have you on, and you saidsomething that's so important
and I want to make sure we endwith this, which was to
summarize one of the things yousaid.
It was really, if somethingpiques your interest, be curious
and look at it a little bitdeeper.
And so if something on today'scall piqued your interest, then
go and follow Julianne and goset up the 20-minute call, and
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she might not be the right coachfor you or her platform might
not be right, but you areexpressing an interest in
looking inward and doing thework and doing the journey work
and I think for all of us ascoaches, that is the number one
thing we want and it's mostimportant that you find the
right coach and find the rightmodality for you.
But just taking that step to belike I'm taking an awareness
that I'm interested and leaninto that, because that is the
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universe talking to you.
So, thank you, we will stay intouch.
I hope to see everybody nextweek.
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Most of my clients are recovering overthinkers, if
we're going to put a pin in it.
They're entrepreneurs in spiritand they want to know the how
and they're recoveringoverthinkers.
So my first thing is like, okay, we're not going to think
anymore, because if you had beenable to think your way there,
we would have done it already.
Correct, can you agree with meon that?
And so then it becomes aboutyou really don't need to know
(00:20):
the how.
We want to know the biggerpicture on how I'm going to get
from here to there.
And the truth of the matter isyou only need to make the next
step, and you only get the nextstep when you take the first
step.
And we never really know.
Even when you feel like, oh, Ikind of know how this is going
to work out, you don't know that, you just think you know that
and it calms you down.
So that's where I reallycultivate, instead of
(00:43):
self-reliance, universe reliance.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Welcome to the House of Jermar podcast, where
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I am your host, jean Collins,and I invite you to become
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Welcome to the House of Jarmarpodcast, where wellness starts
within.
I'm your host, jean Collins,and today's guest is Julianne
Lee.
She is a transformational coachand we are going to talk about
some really incredible subjectsthat I really love, which is
(01:33):
like inspired action.
And how do you not just sitback and wait for the universe
to deliver something for you?
How do you do it?
She's a coach, she worksone-on-one, she has an app that
you can get.
She has so many interestingthings that we can talk about.
She is friends with Tara Laurie, so, those of you who are
listening to this, tara Lauriewas a podcast guest of mine
several months ago and I justadore her.
(01:53):
I think she is just a magicalhuman being.
So anybody who reaches out tome that says that they are a
friend of Tara Laurie's, I waslike you're on, there's got to
be something really cool aboutyou.
So, julianne, it's so nice tomeet you and thank you for
coming on the show, thank you,thank you, it's an absolute joy
to be here.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
It's really great, thank you.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
Well, thank you for your time, and your website and
your bio are super impressive.
So your bio will be in the shownotes for everybody so they can
read all about it.
But I always love to sharingwhat your career journey is,
because we don't all start outone day when we're 18 years old
saying I want to be atransformation coach and I want
to work on inspired action andmindset and helping people
(02:31):
manifest and create things, soshare with everybody a little
bit about your career journeyand how you got to be the
entrepreneur that you are now.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
Oh, absolutely, yeah, no idea of what a coach even
was.
I mean for myself.
I just had this.
I never knew what I wanted tobe when I grew up and it was so
painful to me Like I, whensomeone knew what they wanted to
be, I'd be like, why are younot doing it?
Do you understand?
Like you don't know what yourpassion is, you don't know what
your purpose is.
How could you know it?
And you're not doing it?
So that was just kind of who Iwas all the time.
(03:00):
And I came over here tooriginally from Australia to Los
Angeles and my thought at thetime was I wanted to make movies
and so I got into that industrya little bit and then I
realized I was kind of just likecoaching people.
I did not was coaching actually.
And then I actually heard ofsomeone got told in the house
with a life coach and I was sojudgmental I was like life coach
(03:23):
, life coach, like who the hell?
How woo, woo ridiculous is that?
Like you're going to tellpeople what to do?
Like that's just, that's justcrazy.
And then so I've always beensearching, you know, reading,
you know from back in the day,Deepak Chopra and the Artist's
Way, and all these things.
I've always been reallyinterested in that spiritual
path.
And one night I was like afriend told me to write, you
(03:46):
know, a letter to the universe.
So I led to the universe andback to the universe.
What is what brings me joy andhow do you want me to be of
service in the world?
And I was like blah blah blahblah life coach.
And I'm like nothing, I'm reallyinterested in it.
Okay, next night, blah, blah,blah life coach.
I'm like, oh my God, what isthis life coach thing?
Third night life coach.
(04:06):
I'm like, okay.
So I Googled life coach.
This is 20 years ago now andjust down the street I lived in
West Hollywood at the time, justdown the street, at this
mystical like Bodhi treebookstore, there was the IPEC
Institute for ProfessionalEmpowerment Coaching was having
a talk and I was like, well, Iasked it's free, how do I not go
(04:28):
?
Right?
So I go there and he talks andI'm like, oh, this is what I do.
It was like spiritual it's.
Life coaching isn't abouttelling people what to do.
It's about the answers are inyou and I get them out, which is
what I was doing all the time.
And at the time I mean I thinkback then it was like I want to
say it was $8,000 and I was, youknow, living, you know paycheck
(04:53):
to paycheck, and I think I hada credit card with $8,000 on it.
I can't even believe I did thisthat.
I was like I signed up for thisyear course and it took a
little minute right for a littlecrossover.
Like I was like what do I donow?
I went to a couple of networkinggroups and started coaching a
couple of friends and and thenit just kind of grew, you know,
and and just sort of come tolike 20 years later, you know.
(05:17):
And, as you said, what's atransformation coach?
Well, for me, a transformationcoach is like you are this way
and you know, then you becomewhat you actually truly are,
without all your fears andinsecurities and lack of
self-worth, basically.
So you transform into the lifethat you're actually meant to be
living, which you know, I havegreat experience in that.
So it's kind of like how I gothere, which is just all
(05:39):
hilarious really when you lookat it.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
Oh, but I love your story.
You are not the first personthat I've spoken to that has
commented about making aninvestment in themselves and
what they feel like is supposedto be their path when they feel
like they can't afford it.
And they do it anyway becausesomething draws them to do it
and to just figure it out.
And I love that you shared thatpart of the story because it
(06:05):
demonstrates that not only didyou not have it all figured out
like it wasn't, like you waiteduntil you had this money, you
jumped in.
You jumped in with two feet andthen we're like somehow it's
going to work itself out.
And I wonder if that helpsattract clients to you because
of your approach of that,instead of the, I'm going to
wait until everything is allaligned and it feels like
(06:27):
everything's ready.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
Absolutely, absolutely.
I think youth might've helped alittle bit there as well.
To be honest, I think thathappens Like I've got friends
and stuff right and we're likeone just took off to travel
around the world and she's, youknow, mid-age and she's like,
wow, I used to do this, I'm justa little bit more thoughtful of
it, but she's doing it anyway.
But if the regards to yourquestion about you know, a lot
(06:51):
of people and I will say most ofmy clients are recovering
overthinkers, if we're going toput a pin in it.
They're entrepreneurs in spiritand they want to know the how
and they're recoveringoverthinkers.
So my first thing is like okay,we're not going to think
anymore, because if you had beenable to think your way there,
we would have done it already,correct?
Can you agree with me on that?
Of course, yeah, right.
(07:12):
And so then it becomes about youreally don't need to know the
how.
What we want to know is we wantto know the bigger picture on
how I'm going to get from hereto there.
And the truth of the matter isyou only need to make the next
step and you only get the nextstep when you take the first
step.
And we never really know, evenwhen you feel like, oh, I kind
(07:35):
of know how this is going towork out.
You don't know that, you justthink you know that and it calms
you down.
So that's where I reallycultivate, instead of
self-reliance, universe reliance, because that really calms
people down when you increaseyour trust in yourself and I
think of universes, like in yourhighest self, the extension of
you, that's connected to all.
So if you're tapping into thatpower, you might be able to
relax that there's a betterknowing of the next step.
(07:57):
And so when you get inspiredwith that thought, before you
talk yourself out of it right,before I talk myself out of it-
what the hell are you doing?
Speaker 2 (08:04):
Like how are you?
Speaker 1 (08:04):
going to pay back this $8,000?
Like before, I was down on thetable right, I trusted the
impulse, yes and so, because Iknew it was from faith.
So I always do that gut checktoo.
It's like there's the impulse.
Is this faith or fear?
It's faith, okay, do it, youknow.
So it just this taking leapsapproach to life and then, as
you accumulate the experience ofit working out, you know your
(08:26):
trust in your not needing toknow definitely develops.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
But it's a practice ongoing practice oh, ongoing,
yes, I can relate to so much ofwhat you said, because I've done
all of those things and havingto trust myself is a constant
exercise and I think so manyentrepreneurs and especially
female executives likeoverthinking is like the name of
the game, you know.
(08:51):
It's like we plot, we plan,we're type A, and it's like the
universe is not type A.
So it's learning how to not bethat way is really where a coach
like yourself is so helpful.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
Absolutely, and because it is about action.
Right, it's about action, butit's got to start with the
thought and belief first, andthat's most of our work, and
that's why I call my appAllowing, because it's not about
doing and making somethinghappen, it's about letting it
come through.
You know, it's almost like I'vegot this one client I was
working with and like things areunfolding so easily.
(09:25):
She's like it feels weird forlife to be so easy.
Like I've thought and worriedabout so many things for so long
that and I say this to clientsI'm like when things start
happening, you're so used toliving in the wanting that
having is weird, like it'sstrange.
That's when you'll see peopleget into self-sabotage.
It's like we're not practicedat having, we're practiced at
(09:48):
wanting, so it's such a funjourney.
It becomes a whole game reallyof life.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
Well, and we expect it to be hard.
Yes, so if something is nothard, it feels weird, at least
to me.
If it's not hard and you don'thave to work hard for it, then
it feels weird, like okay,where's the catch?
Speaker 1 (10:25):
us.
You know every which way andshape with the, you know the
propensity and the pace at whichthe world is gaining momentum
at, and you know, and so it's.
It's really challenging to staysteadfast in.
I'm enough, I do enough, andfrom that place, that point of
attraction, that's your truepower.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
Yeah, how do you help people?
Cause you've mentioned thisword and it's in your bio too
self-doubt, which I think is areally big one for people.
So if you wouldn't mind talkingabout, give us some examples of
how you help people tackleself-doubt, and this is not a
one and done session for all ofus.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
Yeah, yeah, wouldn't it be great if it was.
I'm going to try to put it in apill form and we'll mark it and
we'll make millions.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
Yeah, yeah, wouldn't it be great though if it was,
I'm going to try to put it in apill form and we'll market it
and we'll make millions.
Right, wouldn't that be awesome.
But give a little like a peekunder the window.
If I came to you and I said youknow what my limiting belief is
self-doubt how would you helpsomeone like me?
Speaker 1 (11:15):
And it's interesting because self-doubt shows itself
in everywhere, right?
So self-doubt I think there'sthe biggest disease in the world
.
I call it LSE.
It's low self-esteem, becauseit affects everything you do in
your life and when you makechoices from that, it never ends
well.
So self-doubt is like we talkabout, whether it's in
relationships you might comewith regard to, you might come
(11:35):
with self-doubt around finances,health, what your life purpose
is, or just you know you wantmore inner calm and inner peace
in your life purposes, or justyou know you want more inner
calm and inner peace in yourlife.
So it becomes a process thatI've been doing with clients,
like I take them through aseries of internal steps that I
call whole life steps, basicallyto reset.
So we actually go back and welook at what's the source like,
(11:58):
where did this self-doubt comefrom?
Because if we don't get back tothe source and we get to the
core issue and we re-perceivethat from now as an adult and
re-acclimate it, we can just dosurface things, but if we don't
change it at the core, it'salways going to flip back.
So it's very challenging work.
You know some minds are like,oh, this is really challenging.
(12:21):
I'm like, yes, it is, but inorder to get the tree out we
have to get the roots.
We want substantial, consistenttransformation and we don't
want to have to come back and dothis again.
So if you're doubting yourselfin relationships, for example,
and you have a lot of women comeand they may be looking for
(12:43):
someone.
They've had past experiencesthat aren't great, so they doubt
that they can choose someone.
They doubt that someone's outthere that you know they can't
have it all.
There's just doubt across theboard.
And so we go to like where'sthat doubt come from?
Like, why do you doubt that?
And a lot of it stems to theythink that they have to do it
(13:04):
all.
Like they think it's somethingoutside of themselves that they
need to get.
Instead of what I do is I haveanother set of steps.
I take clients through fourrelationships.
Basically, it's the antithesisof what I do in relationships.
I get them to the point wherethey don't actually need or want
a relationship.
They're so secure in themselvesand they're vibrating at this
(13:29):
empowered, beautifulrelationship with themselves,
doing what they love in theirlife, that in order for anyone
to come into their life, theybetter add something of great
value right.
And now they're attracting froma place of wholeness, so
they're not going to attract, mrAffirm my Self Doubt.
They're not going to attract.
Mr Affirm my Self-Doubt.
They're not going to attractall these things that they
previously had tracked.
(13:50):
And that's one of the things Ilove working on with people,
like relationships, because wethink it's about the other
person and in these stepsthere's like 20 steps, but only
the first step is about otherpeople.
Yeah, that's it Right.
Right, because it all comes in.
So once you build that muscleright so it's a daily practice
the self-doubt muscle has beenbuilt, it's been practiced, it's
(14:12):
a thought that's been repeated,that became a belief, and so
I'm learning that it takes aminute, you know.
So we get to the core of it.
How do we change that?
And then what are the practicesand new beliefs and then
actions that we put into ourdaily basis until we catch up to
actually, oh, that becomes ournew belief.
Now, sometimes it'll switch,you know, but it's usually a
(14:36):
wobble dance where we're like,oh, it's new.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
Oh, you know, oh, and that's where coaching comes in
because we speak every week.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
So there's this accountability that you're going
to get stuff done.
I'm on your team, but I'm alsogoing to be like I'm not going
to let your self-doubt dictateyour life anymore.
You're going to come from thatconfident universe, connected
self.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
Yes, which I like.
Now you mentioned somethingelse.
You mentioned energy and kindof getting your vibrational
energy to the right place.
Talk about how important youfeel that energy is and people
tapping into their energy interms of coaching.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
There is nothing more important.
So if I could be a drug pusher,it would be called meditation.
There is nothing more important.
So if I could be a drug pusher,it would be called meditation.
It would.
I took this is what's funnybecause I would have been my
worst client.
I'm so like mm-hmm show meMm-hmm, okay, mm-hmm.
I was told to meditate.
It took me 10 years to actuallydo it and it literally.
(15:39):
You know people say what ismeditation Like?
Very simply, it's the practiceof having a thought and letting
it go.
Having a thought and that'swhat meditation is and that
allows your perception and yourway of being in life to
completely change.
Like, my mind literally is notthe same mind that I once had
previously.
So if and this is my beliefeverything in the world is a
(16:05):
reflection of my internal state,energy is number one.
I don't need to change anythingon the outside world in order
to feel okay.
And that's where that innerpeace and inner calm comes,
because I'm in control of myresponses.
I'm in control of what goes onin between my ears.
I'm in control of what goes onin between my ears and I believe
that you know, it's a law ofattraction universe.
(16:26):
It's a like attracts, likeuniverse.
You know, even us speakingtoday and meeting Laurie and
just these like-minded energiesstarting to draw together, you
know, because that's where it'sat and it's like I give people
this example of how importantenergy is.
You know, if you're out at aclub, right, and you walk into
the bar, you can immediatelytell who's who, right.
(16:50):
You're like oh, that one, he'sout to blah, blah, blah or she's
not really confident in herself.
You don't even have aconversation.
So we're walking aroundspeaking to life, not with our
words, but how we feel aboutourselves.
Yeah, and that's how much powerwe have.
We don't have to change theworld.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
Right, I get so excited because I'm like you can
literally change your wholelife just by changing your
relationship to yourself.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
Oh, I couldn't agree more.
Yeah, it has to start fromwithin.
It is.
It's super exciting and I thinkit's probably really exciting
for your clients to see yourpassion Like.
I can feel your energy rise asyou start to talk about it and I
would think it would be reallyhard for your clients to not
want to be like Ooh, I want whatare you drinking?
Like.
I want some of that, is thatRed?
Speaker 1 (17:38):
Bull.
What is that?
That's going on?
Speaker 2 (17:40):
in here over there, because I kind of want some of
that.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
What I love, too, is when they start to see the
results in their lives.
Right, either they'll leave arelationship or they'll get into
a relationship.
Or their finances start to riseup, or they feel like, oh my
God, this is what my purpose is,and they get on that road Like
everything syncs up just whenthey do this inner work yeah,
(18:04):
and they take action, but youknow we've got to take action.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
Yes, they have to take action.
How do you help clientsidentify action?
What is what?
Speaker 1 (18:14):
is action, well inspired action, so it usually
comes up from within.
So I, when I started, I waslike talking about the letter to
the universe.
That's a massive tool aboutconnecting to your higher self.
It's so funny.
I gave it to my sister the veryfirst time.
I'm like, okay, write a letterto the universe, she wants to
know something.
And I spoke to her a couple ofdays later.
I go.
So what did the universe say?
She's like I'm still waiting.
(18:34):
I go, I'm so sorry, I didn'tmake a click.
You need to write the letterback.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
She's like oh, it's not like Santa Claus.
He's not just going to deliverit the next morning Like poof on
the counter.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
Yes.
So it's like I mean, I love,you know, my clients are,
they're doers, right, so theylove to do a list, they love to
do a thing.
And it's like, okay, you know,write up your list, we'll
brainstorm, we'll get all thesetangibles, we'll ask the
universe to guide us, and thenit'll just present itself and I
say, well, what's the firstthing you can do?
Like, if someone wants to gethealthier right, it's not like
I'm going to lose X amount ofpounds.
(19:09):
I come back to like, do we justneed to start by drinking more
water?
Like, what's the first actionyou can take that points you in
the direction of where you wantto go?
Speaker 2 (19:22):
And it just will start to flow and come.
You know and you mentionedsomething before that applies
here recognizing your responseto the question of what does the
universe want from you as aninstinctual response or a
fear-based response, becausethere is a big difference and
coaches like you can help peopleidentify what really is the
instinctual response, eventhough it might feel a little
(19:44):
absurd to people.
So they go back to what's therational response.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
Yeah, which is often fear based.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
Yeah, we always default to what's like.
Well, I want to say it's this,but that sounds ridiculous.
Like you know who am, I?
Speaker 1 (19:57):
Who am I to have it all?
Who am I to think?
Speaker 2 (20:00):
that I could be a famous writer, like, okay, I'm
not going to put that as myanswer.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
Yeah, I'm going to give that internal torture to
myself?
Speaker 2 (20:06):
Yes, Correct, but teaching people how to be able
to listen to that is a trueskill that people can really
benefit from.
Coaches like yourself to learnhow to listen to that instinct
and have enough, have gottenpast enough self-doubt that you
(20:28):
can get to the self-trust to belike, hmm, that's coming up,
it's coming up again.
It's coming up again.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
It's going to keep coming up until it smacks me in
the face Every time.
By the time people actuallycall me, like I'm already
commending them on their courage, you know, because it's like
you, you believe in yourselfenough and your soul is like I'm
done with whatever how thingsare, that I'm willing to put
myself in an uncomfortablesituation and get the guidance
that I need, like I'm alreadylike.
(20:51):
So brave, right, they picked upthe phone Right.
Mission started.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
Yeah.
So let's talk about your life alittle bit, and I'm always
curious about you know well, youmentioned meditation.
But like, what does wellnessmean in your life and how do you
maintain balance and grounding?
Because I think sometimespeople think like, oh, she's a
life coach, she's got it allgoing on, she doesn't have to
work at anything, and you and Iboth know that's not true, yeah,
(21:17):
so if you wouldn't mind sharewith people a little of the
reality, of what you work onevery day and what does your
life look like and what are thethings that you do that you
suggest your clients try to do.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
Oh, absolutely Well, meditation is number one, you
know, and it's not for me aboutdoing it perfectly, it's like
when you can get to it.
You know, in an ideal world Iwake up, I use my morning vision
journal.
Ideal world I wake up, I use mymorning vision journal.
Meditation is at the end ofthat Great get about my day.
What it normally looks like issleeping up.
Are you out of bed?
Kids, get in the car, let's goRight, and then I'll come back.
And before clients start, Iwill do that.
(21:53):
And it's actually funny becausemy clients, my clients, my
children I have a 15 year oldnow and a 13 year old, so
they're a little bit older, butwhen they were little too,
they'd come to talk to thebedroom and they'd be like I'm
meditating.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
Because I'm talking to her we can't talk to her now
Like I'd be like listening toher.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
It's so funny, but it really is like for me, the
wellness part of it has to be apriority, like it means
sometimes I don't pick up thephone to a friend.
Sometimes I don't pick up thephone to a friend, sometimes I
just need to get that done, orI'll text them and be like I'll
get back to you in a little bit,but I need to make time to
connect to myself because I'm asingle mom.
(22:31):
I have two kids, I have abusiness, I have a dog and it
could be a lot if I thought Ihad to do things perfectly,
whereas it's like, you know, no,it's not.
So it's like for me.
I do a lot of writing because Ifind that writing things out
really works for me, you know,and it's just yeah, I love it,
(22:52):
and so that's really great.
Lists are great, affirmationsare great, you know, and it's
really kind of like with clients.
You know they're busy.
I'm like, put your affirmationson your phone.
Yeah, put them on a bit ofpaper by the toilet At some time
during the day you're going touse the bathroom.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
Why not read your affirmations then?
Speaker 1 (23:08):
It really doesn't matter.
Like do you?
Speaker 2 (23:10):
know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
I'm like just incorporate it into your day
Like you want this to be a wayof being, it's sort of a
lifestyle, as opposed to I'mgoing to pick this up and then
I'm going to go do my life.
It's like oh, how do I becomethis version of myself where I'm
embodying it?
Speaker 2 (23:34):
You know perfectly said that this is a lifestyle,
but it's not.
You know which.
I think for some people that'sa challenge, because we live in
a society that's a quick fix.
People want to take a pill andlose 20 pounds and yeah in the
world they do now, sometimeslose 20 pounds.
And in the world of personalgrowth and inner development and
really getting in touch withyourself and getting inner peace
(23:54):
.
There is no pill, it is notquick, and so it is baby steps
to changing your lifestyle andchanging your priorities.
So I love that you said thatbecause that's important.
Priorities are so important,especially as women.
It's impossible to be perfectat all of our roles.
It is just an impossible goal.
So why bother?
Speaker 1 (24:12):
Let yourself off the hook, stop it and I'm very quiet
with clients.
So I'm like if it makes youfeel bad, don't do it and stop
thinking it.
And they're like, okay, oh, whoam I to do that?
And I'm like it's just start bymaking a small choice.
I go, cause sometimes it'sreally uncomfortable for clients
, right, when you've been apeople pleaser, a lot of my
clients are people pleasers,right, and I'm I give them the
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definition.
I go actually people pleasingis really selfish.
They're like, oh, and I'm like,no, because you're actually
trying to make yourself feelbetter at the cost of another
person.
So it's actually you thinkyou're being nice and you are,
your intentions are good, butyou're actually serving yourself
, you know.
So let's go to really servingyourself, which is really
(24:56):
changing your relationship withyourself.
So it's just, you know, reallyputting that practice in of
catching your thought, turningyour thought, you know,
throughout the day, and sort oflike, how do I be in charge of
what I'm thinking now as opposedto what I'm thinking being in
charge of me?
Speaker 2 (25:15):
Right, yes, yes, you're guiding your ship instead
of being guided.
And how much of what you do inyour life and in your day are
you doing the guiding?
Speaker 1 (25:26):
Yes, yeah.
And how much are you listeningto outside influence instead of
yourself, when you are with youliterally 24 hours a day?
Yeah, you have not.
What goes on between your ears?
No one has privy to it, unlessthey're a mind reader.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
Most of the time, and even then your mind is talking
all day long to you, so there'sstuff going on all day, exactly
so why wouldn't you make thatconversation fantastic?
Speaker 1 (25:54):
I'm sorry, and I do remember my thought, because
clients, when they're peoplepleasers, it's very challenging
them to think they don't evenknow what they want.
I didn't know what my favoritecolor was.
I was a people pleaser.
I didn't know what do I like.
Well, I don't know.
What do you mean?
Like I just what do you want?
What do you want to have forlunch?
Yes, Right, so I get them tostart practicing family plans,
(26:17):
whatever.
Just say what you prefer.
Yeah, just start like, ifthere's a choice, start
listening to what you wouldprefer and choose what you
prefer, and let's start buildingthat muscle and get to know
yourself Right.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
And getting comfortable in what makes you
feel uncomfortable, becausethat's not your conditioned way
of being yeah, so you have tomove into it, and if someone's
got an opinion exactly, and it'slike you can give your
preference and then someone elsecan give their preference.
Speaker 1 (26:48):
Then you have a conversation Like you're not
stepping on someone's toes bygiving your preference, and you
know what's very interesting,though, too, when you have been
a people pleaser all your lifeand you do start to make that
change people around you.
They don't like it becausethey're like oh, you normally do
what I want you to do.
That makes me feel good.
(27:08):
Like what do you mean?
You have an opinion, like it'suncomfortable a little bit.
Some people will be yourcheerleaders that are like, oh
my God, finally.
And then other people are likethe way you agree to this
relationship was you make mefeel good, and so you.
Sometimes, when you transform,you transform out of
relationships.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
Yes, which I was just going to ask you that Do you
find that a lot of your clientsend up having to change some of
their relationships or changetheir social circles as they
transform into being more theirtrue, authentic selves?
Speaker 1 (27:44):
100%, because the people you've attracted were
attracted to that old version ofyourself.
Now there will be people inthat friend group that will
evolve and change with you.
If they're not, it's not somuch of like, well, I'm going to
break up with you now.
It's just, it becomes not amatch and it'll fall away
organically.
It just is natural because itjust doesn't behoove you.
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And then sometimes you're inthe hallway and you're like I
kind of feel like I'm on my ownnow universe.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
Kind of my buddies are all down there, don't?
Speaker 1 (28:15):
really see anything going on there.
You just got to be comfortableand it changes, you know, in a
minute.
And then all of a sudden youmeet these other like-minded
people, still growing, butyou've got, like this, the same
sort of growth mindset I'll callit.
You know, which is just so.
Then, when you have aconversation with someone,
(28:35):
you've got two people who arelooking inward first before
projecting their stuff onto you.
Right, right, much more fun tolive that way, so much better.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
Yes, it is, but it's also scary.
I think, from the people thatI've met, it is a terrifying
journey to sign up for wantingto work with a transformational
coach, knowing, knowing thatlife is going to change and
you're going to change and yourlife is going to change and
having the courage to recognizethat, yes, that probably means
(29:06):
some of the people, noteverybody, but that means that
some of the people in your lifewill probably need to phase out,
but the good news is new peoplewill phase in.
Speaker 1 (29:15):
Mm-hmm, yeah, and sometimes it betters the
relationships.
I've got clients that come thatmaybe were like and it's so
funny, a couple of them werelike I know I don't want to be
with my marriage, but I'm neverleaving because of fear.
And a couple of years laterwe're like okay, so they've left
.
And they're like oh my God,because it's like neither of you
were happy.
(29:35):
But there's this construct orthis belief system.
They have to make it work.
And it's like you know, if youreally love someone, set them
free, right, so give yourselfthat gift.
But it was at the first likeliterally they'll be like and
don't even tell me about leavingmy husband, cause I'm not going
to do it.
I'm like okay, fine, that'swhere we're starting.
I don't know, because I don'tknow what the end result.
(30:02):
I don't have an agenda as acoach, right?
I'm not like you should do thiswith life.
I'm like let's discover whatyour authentic self and soul is
calling and guiding you towards.
You know I'll call BS when Iknow you're making up stories to
yourself because it'suncomfortable.
But you know, only youultimately know what's your
authentic.
You know what resonates withyou as you're calling and people
say well, how do you know, andI'm like it's that old, it's
like you know when.
(30:22):
You know, you know when youdon't know yeah, if you don't
know, it's a no or not.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
Yet you know, yeah, and you probably do know.
You're just not ready yet toface what you know.
Speaker 1 (30:32):
Yeah, it's it's.
It takes a lot of courage, youknow.
That's why I don't thinkcoaching is for everybody.
You know a lot of people I hadthe mistake of.
I was in a relationship onetime and I thought, you know,
being the so nice person that Iam, I thought of course you want
to change and grow.
And then I had the realizationof like, oh no, you like your
life how it is.
I'm so sorry that I wasthinking you should be X, y, z
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and reach your potential.
Like, no, you get to do yourlife how you want to do it.
I'm.
You know I apologize becausethat's uncool of me to expect
you to change, because that's myjourney, that I want to be on
that path and that's important.
Speaker 2 (31:12):
That's such an important point because it's the
choice that we're making forourselves and it's hard to not
want to judge other people thatdon't want to be.
Speaker 1 (31:19):
Especially when you're right.
I'm just joking.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
No, it's true, but it's like when you, when this is
what you do for a living andyou live in this space of
coaching and personaldevelopment and self-growth,
it's like sometimes I'm likewhat do you mean?
You don't want to do some oflike, how do you not want to be
better?
Like, really, you think you'reperfect.
It is hard not to judge thatpersonally.
Speaker 1 (31:40):
And they want to stay in the problem.
You know like, oh, you justlike talking about the problem.
Speaker 2 (31:50):
Yeah, but you're right, some people that is
that's their space or that'stheir space for now, and they
haven't.
They're not on the same journeyand you have to respect them
for that and kindly just havethem stay on the outskirts of
your life, because too much ofthat energy on you is actually
not a positive either.
Speaker 1 (32:03):
Absolutely yeah, absolutely Cool.
Speaker 2 (32:06):
So who are your ideal clients?
Speaker 1 (32:09):
I would say most of my clients are women and I do
have a few men as well.
Most of them are entrepreneurs,you know and really just sort
of figuring out who they are.
They're either wanting tofigure out their life purpose
they're either wanting to be inor change a relationship.
They are.
I would say the through line is, as I said, we're sort of
coming from that people-pleasing, overthinking sort of do do, do
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want to figure it out, sort ofmindset, instead of cultivating
that faith and trust and slowingdown and ease.
And so I think it's just really, you know women who.
They're just ready, they'reready to not give a BS anymore.
They're ready to be who theyreally are.
They're ready to just be likeyou know what I want to do life,
like I've been doing theshoulds, you know, and I'm not
(32:57):
happy, you know it's notfulfilling.
You know and I'm not happy, youknow it's not fulfilling.
Is this it, you know?
And so they're just like.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
They're ripe, ripe to be like I'm ready to do the
work to to be me now do mostpeople come to you and think
I'll work with her for a couplemonths and then I'll be good,
and then they stay for years andthen they stay for years.
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:18):
And some people ebb and flow, right, because it's
like, as I said, you know, weare so used to wanting that when
we get it like so people, we doall the work, they meet the
fantastic relationship.
They may go off for a bit andthen they come back and they're
like okay, now all my shit'scoming up for real.
I'm like, yeah, because youhaven't been used to having
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right and so I have people thatcome and go.
I've had people that.
I've had a couple of peoplethat have like pretty much been
from the start.
You know, because their life'sconstantly evolving and because
they're a lot of them areentrepreneurs, I end up being
like their silent businesspartner, right, because they're
entrepreneurs.
They may even have a couple ofpeople working for them, but
they can't talk about theirworries, fears, stuff or
business planning.
Like we do business planning,we do tangible things as well.
(34:03):
So it's like I've kind of likegrown with their business but
I'm kind of like theirconsultant guider, you know gut
check, yeah, and also planner,you're the check-in.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
You're the check-in with someone that you know has
their right intention and is inthe right space to help with
that gut check and can ask theright questions to uncover the
right answers where that doesn'tnecessarily come from a spouse
or a friend or a businesspartner.
Speaker 1 (34:28):
You're hitting on something really, really
important about coaching, whichmakes coaching, as a coach
yourself to you know.
It stands out that everyoneelse in your life has an agenda,
because what you do will affectthem Totally.
I love you, but it's not goingto affect my life, yeah right,
exactly, it's not.
Speaker 2 (34:43):
I love you, but I'm going to go on and go do my
stuff.
Totally.
The call is over and I'm movingon.
Yeah, I'm like next Love you tobits and pieces.
Speaker 1 (34:52):
I'm not going to be worried about whatever's going
on later on how I am, and sowhen you're working with a coach
, you get a bit like my agendais your agenda, it's what's best
for you because nothing affectsme in your life, whereas you
don't get like there's no realmom, dad, brother, sister,
(35:16):
sibling, friend there in yourlife.
Whatever you do is going tohave an impact and if they say
it's not, they're going to go.
Speaker 2 (35:19):
what's this going to mean for me, of course, or how
is this going to make me feelabout myself if you're doing
this for you because we're stillfriends, and am I going to look
at you and feel like I am doingnothing or I'm less, than
because you're off doing allthis work and building and
growing?
And it's such a differentdynamic when you work with a
coach.
So let me ask you do you have acoach?
Speaker 1 (35:40):
for yourself.
I do not currently have a coachfor myself.
I am a very big researcher,however, like I'm always
evolving and researching andlearning and reading, and I'm a
systems person.
So I love to go back to the1900s and actually like if I was
to say my coaches are, thatwould be like Louise Hay 1900s
(36:01):
and actually like if I was tosay my coaches are, that would
be like Louise Hay, florenceScovushian you know I do love
Esther Hicks.
There's a new guy, basher, Ilisten to and then I have a
couple of friends that we're onthis same path.
And, to be absolutelytransparent too, laurie and I,
like we, we have a meeting eachweek.
Yeah, like a business sort ofaccountability meeting so I
could say technically we'recoaching each other, so it's
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like, yeah, my life is set up ina way that sort of is fostering
it constantly, you know.
So I'm really grateful for that.
Speaker 2 (36:30):
And it goes back to your point about lifestyle,
continual learning.
I feel like for people that arein coaching, for people that
are in spirituality, personalgrowth, trying to become their
best selves, find their trueself, have as much positive
energy, attract what they wantto attract, manifestation, all
of those categories, people thatare interested in those
categories, there's continuallearning and it's part of what
(36:52):
we do every day, whether it belistening to a podcast or
watching something on YouTube orreading a book or you know
there's so much or just evenspending time inward is part of
that journey and is part of thatwork Constantly working on
growing because it's not like,it's not a destination.
You're not done.
Speaker 1 (37:11):
No, no no, there's never there.
There's never there.
Speaker 2 (37:14):
There's never there.
Yes, so for people who don'twant to dive in with one-on-one
coaching, I know you offer otherways that people can tap into
you and your brilliance, soshare a little bit about that,
thank you.
Speaker 1 (37:25):
Yeah, I have the journals, the morning vision
journals for people that like towrite.
They're just simple three steps, you know, top of the morning,
end of your day, you know checkin, you get all ground is
covered with that.
And then I also have a coachingapp, the Allow Coaching app,
which I really love in that ithas well, I think I'm going to
change a little bit actually,because I want to make it even
more proactive, where you getlike a daily action and
(37:48):
accountability and have it in acommunity.
So you're actually, I'm inthere, I'll give the action a
day, and then you get to saydone or not done, but not make
it overwhelming, because I thinkwe have so much going on, yeah.
And so there's like trainingsin there.
There's all the tools I use inthere, there's how to meditate
in there, there's an audio bookin there, there's a little mini
course in there.
There's lots of free stuff too,because I think, you're right,
(38:10):
people don't know me like youwant to get to know each other.
And then I have like the proallow membership, which is, you
know, actually when people jointhe membership, I like to do a
one-on-one call with them,because I'm not so much about
you know, sort of about doingthings differently.
I'm not about getting thesereally big numbers and having X,
(38:30):
y, z.
I'm about connection, and so tohave a 20 minute conversation
with someone on the app beforethey jump in to working on the
app, so we know each other.
So when I'm talking to you inthe app, we've already got a
connection.
Yes, and then for some peopletoo, they want to continue to
have coaching in the app.
Speaker 2 (38:54):
So I have the ProAllow membership where you
can direct message me and voicenote me and I'll get back to you
within 24 hours.
Speaker 1 (39:00):
Oh, that's cool and help you, yeah, so it's kind of
like me in your pocket a littlebit.
Yes, and it's a really greatway for you to maybe get
introduced to coaching with nota big investment, right, you
know, because if you just wantto be on the app, it's like $29
a month, and if you want adirect coach with me and it's
only $59 a month, which ispretty reasonable yes,
(39:20):
reasonable to get an actualhuman being.
I'm a person.
It's not an AI generatedresponse.
It's me sitting there.
You might even hear my kids inthe background as I leave a
voice note.
That's what's going to happen.
Speaker 2 (39:32):
But that's authentic and you kind of sometimes need
that personal one-on-one touchand sometimes, just as you're
thinking about things, it'sgreat to have a human being that
you know has your back and youcan ask a question of or pose
something to.
That will get back to youquickly, that you know you're
like.
Okay, I align with thatperson's methodology, their way
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of thinking, their way ofcoaching, without having to be
fully all in.
Speaker 1 (39:59):
Yeah, and that knows a little bit about you.
Right, You're not just a number, You're not just a person and
it's a bigger comment.
But I really feel like we'reand I love America, but we're a
little about the more, more,more concept instead about the
deeper, deeper, deeperconnection ripple effect.
So I might not need people, Ithink, have this idea of like
you need to reach, like I mightnot need you know people, I
(40:20):
think, have this idea of likeyou need to reach thousands of
people and it's like or you havereally solid transformation
with a few people and thatripples out to the people they
know, and then that ripples outto the people they know, and
then that has impact, correct?
Speaker 2 (40:33):
Yeah, yeah, well, I think a lot of women are craving
connection in a variety of ways, and that looks different for
everybody, but I think the themeof connection, especially for
women at least all the womenthat I talk to and interact with
there is a true desire to wantto connect with more like-minded
women while they're on theirpersonal growth journey.
Speaker 1 (40:53):
Yeah, yeah, and just to be seen right, because I
think technology is great, right, it's like anything, it's great
, depending on how you use it.
Speaker 2 (41:03):
Yeah, of course.
Speaker 1 (41:03):
You know if you use it to compare yourself not so
much fun.
Speaker 2 (41:05):
No, right, exactly how are you using social media?
Speaker 1 (41:08):
Yeah, Not great, but there's some really great stuff
out there too.
Great stuff, you know, likeyour podcast right?
Yeah, Like there's great stuff.
You know that's really helpfuland beneficial.
It's just where do you put yourattention and you can't do it
all, so you just pick a coupleof pods that speak to you Right,
exactly, and just listen tothose.
Speaker 2 (41:26):
So what's on your bucket list for your future?
Either personally orprofessionally, my future.
Speaker 1 (41:33):
Oh, my goodness, I do want to take a trip to Paris.
Since you asked, it's alwaysbeen on my bucket list.
Yes, I'd love to go there withmy partner.
That'd be fantastic.
I really want to get this.
You know my app.
Really.
It's got a few people on there,it's got my clients on there
because I give it to them forfree, but I'm like I haven't
really promoted that, to behonest.
So I'm like I should probablydo that.
I'm very good at making things.
I make journals, I make thesethings.
(41:53):
I'm not so good at puttingmyself out there and marketing.
So that will probably be agrowth opportunity for me.
So this speaking to you is likemy foray into this new version
of myself, for gettingcomfortable, of putting myself
out there.
So thank you for that.
Good for you, yeah, so I'm just, I'm just excited to, like you
know, really walk the talk, youknow, and be a demonstration of
(42:17):
you know, follow your passionand and the money comes and the
love comes and all that stuffcomes.
Like everything, your dreamlife is already within you,
right, and it's just letting it,letting yourself match it.
Yes, you know, and so the morepeople I can help do that.
I'm just like okay, life isgood, Life is done, it's
(42:38):
fantastic.
Speaker 2 (42:39):
Yes, well, I'm going to read a quote of something
that you sent to me, which isyou don't get what you want, you
get what you are.
Speaker 1 (42:47):
And I thought that was so powerful, I thought that
was really great.
Speaker 2 (42:50):
That summarizes what you do really really well, Thank
you.
Speaker 1 (42:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (42:54):
So thank you for that .
So before we go, I love to askmy guests to recommend a book
that has impacted thempersonally or professionally,
and you and I didn't talk aboutthis in advance, so hopefully
it's okay that I asked thatquestion.
I forgot to remind you but Ifeel like books change lives and
there's a lot people can learnfrom just spending 25 or $20 on
(43:15):
a book and reading a book andreally learning from someone
else's wisdom and experience.
So is there a book that youwould like to recommend?
Speaker 1 (43:23):
I'm going to share what it is anyway, and then I'll
catch up whatever.
So this book was written today,a hundred years ago it is, yeah
, a hundred years ago by a woman, self-published back in 1925,
called the Game of Life and howto Play it.
I knew you were going to saythat Florence Scovel Shenton.
Yeah, now I feel like I'm likeairing on a bit of
(43:43):
self-promotion.
I am a little bit because thatbook I give to every client.
When we start I'm going okay,this is your first step, you're
going to read this book, andwhat happened was hers was very
religious, a lot of religiousconnotations and stuff.
So connotations and stuff.
So because it was public domain, I went in and changed it all
to universe Good, and I changedall the male pronouns to neutral
(44:04):
because it was all he, he, he.
And I'm like, okay, my smokeglands are female, so I took all
the religious stuff out, I tookall the male pronouns out, and
then I summarized her becauseshe never really put it into
steps, so I summarized them inthe back.
So, and I call it the universeversion I wrote that book and
rewrote that book, edited.
I should say she wrote the book,edited that book.
So many times I will still openup that book and be like what
(44:27):
is that?
Like that's, it's like thismagical little haven that she
did and I just am so blown awaythat she self-published it a
hundred years ago.
Speaker 2 (44:38):
A hundred years ago.
It is a 1925.
It is truly, and it's a tinylittle read, it's tiny and it's
not that well written.
Speaker 1 (44:46):
Bless the cotton socks, it's really not.
I'm like this is not aliterature, this is not.
This is like take what you wantand leave the rest.
It's bare bones.
It's just to the point and someof the examples are old school,
but the message it's and I saythis to people all the time I go
it's all the same stuff.
People are just saying it indifferent ways and whichever way
(45:06):
speaks to you, that's great andyou can't hear it enough times.
Speaker 2 (45:09):
Yeah, I love her.
However, it resonates and yougo back again and again and
again.
Yes, that's a good one.
Thank you so much Before wejump off, is there anything that
you wanted to communicate?
Wanted to say that I did notspecifically ask you Because I
want to make sure all my guestsget the chance to talk about
everything they want to talkabout, even if I miss the
opportunity to ask.
Speaker 1 (45:29):
There's a lot of people in this industry and you
might feel pressured to do X, y,z, but I think, like yourself
and myself, like when I saywe'll have a 20 minute call,
it's not a sales pitch.
It's like get something out ofthe call.
If it's a value to you and youwant to get on the app and you
want to work together, that'sgreat.
But I'm not about selling.
It's got to be a match on bothends.
(45:50):
So don't let your head talkyourself out of things because
of fear, of you know of, I'mgoing to be put in a position
where I might, you know, beuncomfortable.
It's like it's just about ifsomething's for you, it's for
you, and if it's not for you,then something else will be.
But you took a first step, youknow.
So I guess that's the onlything is like just with coaching
(46:12):
.
It's like there's, you know,been at this for 20 years now.
It's like it's a long time andit's evolved so much.
It's so interesting to see howit's going and just it is really
beautiful that it's become likeit's not a weird word anymore
anymore.
Yes, like, like coach is not astrange word.
Like actually, like manifest isnot a strange word anymore.
Speaker 2 (46:32):
No, no, universe is an okay term, weird yeah
universe is like we're not.
Speaker 1 (46:37):
We're met with a not as opposed to woo, woo.
What's she?
Talking about Yep.
Speaker 2 (46:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (46:41):
No, but thank you.
You've covered more than allbases.
Speaker 2 (46:44):
This has just been an absolute joy, oh, my pleasure
to have you on, and you saidsomething that's so important
and I want to make sure we endwith this, which was to
summarize one of the things yousaid.
It was really, if somethingpiques your interest, be curious
and look at it a little bitdeeper.
And so if something on today'scall piqued your interest, then
go and follow Julianne and goset up the 20-minute call, and
(47:07):
she might not be the right coachfor you or her platform might
not be right, but you areexpressing an interest in
looking inward and doing thework and doing the journey work
and I think for all of us ascoaches, that is the number one
thing we want and it's mostimportant that you find the
right coach and find the rightmodality for you.
But just taking that step to belike I'm taking an awareness
that I'm interested and leaninto that, because that is the
(47:30):
universe talking to you.
So, thank you, we will stay intouch.
I hope to see everybody nextweek.
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Have a great day everybody.
Thank you for joining us foranother episode of the House of
Germar podcast, where wellnessstarts within.
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