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October 16, 2025 50 mins

Ever notice how certain numbers won’t leave you alone? We sat down with author and teacher Remington Donovan to decode why patterns like 111, 333, and even the infamous 666 keep showing up—and how to turn those moments into practical steps forward. Remington grew up immersed in spiritual practice and later fused numerology, tarot, astrology, and mystical Qabalah into a grounded approach you can use today. Instead of cryptic jargon, he translates ancient correspondences into clear, actionable guidance that fits real life.

We get specific. 111 carries the lightness of new beginnings and the trust of the Fool—permission to start. 333 lands with Saturn’s tone: finish what you’ve started, edit, resolve, ship. And 666? Not a curse, but a mirror for excellence with humility, a reminder to keep ego aligned with something larger. Along the way, we talk about why triple digits hit harder, how to read numbers the way you naturally say them, and when to stop forcing “signs” and simply act.

If you’re curious, skeptical, or somewhere in between, this conversation gives you a practical way to work with the synchronicity of numbers often referred to as angel numbers.

More about Remington:

Remington Donovan is an author, esotericist and teacher trained in the spiritual wisdom of the ancients. 

He was quite literally born into the traditions of mysticism, spirituality and meditation, which naturally evolved into his now over 30 years of experience practicing with tarot and numerology. Along with performing thousands of private readings, Remington teaches and speaks all over the world. He hosts "The Mystical Artists" podcast with his wife, Jeana, and leads The Mystical Arts Mystery School. 

Remington Donovan is the author of Numerology - A Beginner's Guide to the Spiritual Meaning of Numbers and Prosperity Practices: Harnessing the Power of Positive Thinking to Get the Life You Want and Angel Numbers published by Penguin. Remington lives in Vermont with his wife and two children, where he unironically believes in the infinite possibilities of the universe.

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SPEAKER_02 (00:00):
What does it actually mean for you?
You can see a number all daylong, but what and why?
And it's in my book, both of mynumerology books.
It's like the knowledge is onething, but if you allow the
numbers to open up somethingdeeper inside of you, then
you're naturally gonna either beguided to the answer or your

(00:20):
consciousness will open upenough that you're like, aha,
all right, now I get it.
Right?
Like, so the number in of itselfactivates something deeper
within you.

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(00:54):
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Welcome to the House of Germarpodcast, where wellness starts
within.
I'm your host, Gene Collins, andtoday we're going to talk about
angel numbers.

(01:14):
I love this subject.
We have Remington Donovan on theshow.
This is his second appearance.
So if you haven't seen him, goback May 15th.
He was the guest on May 15thwhere we talked about his book,
Numerology.
And today, here everybody whocan see it, we're going to talk
about angel numbers.
And I am so excited.
Remington, welcome back to theshow.

SPEAKER_02 (01:33):
Gene, thank you so much.
It's also good to talk to afellow uh New Englander as well.
So thanks for having me again.
And yeah, Angel Numbers.
This is my latest book.
It just came out worldwide.
Gosh, just last week.
So uh this is all new and superexcited to talk about it.

SPEAKER_00 (01:52):
And angel numbers, I personally see angel numbers all
the time.
And I have friends who never seethem.
They're like, what's wrong withme?
And so I'm so excited.
We're gonna dig into that.
And I also personally had abunch of things happen just in
the last two days around angelnumbers.
And I'm going to use some of thethings that happened to me as a
way for you to show us how thebook works based on the things

(02:15):
that have happened to me.

SPEAKER_02 (02:16):
Yeah, absolutely.
Well, I don't want to jump aheadbecause I have a funny comment
about something you just postedthat I reposted now.

SPEAKER_00 (02:25):
Yes, yeah.
So we're gonna talk about that.
All right, we're gonna get tothat.
So if that's one of the numbers.
It is one of the numbers.
I have two specific examples inthe last like 36 hours for you.
Okay, so before we get started,for people who haven't seen you
before, don't know anythingabout you, can you give some
background about who you are,how you got here, and how you
got into this world of numbers,angel numbers, numerology,
everything that you do?

SPEAKER_02 (02:46):
Yeah, well, uh Brimington Donovan.
Currently, I live in Vermontnow.
So uh getting back to my NewEngland roots, where I mostly
grew up in Connecticut.
So, but from New York Cityoriginally, my family's many
generation of New Yorkers.
And I grew up in Connecticut ona spiritual community on an

(03:06):
ashram.
So that started in New YorkCity.
And so from birth, I really wasexposed to deeper spiritual
teachings, people that were verydedicated to their evolution,
and uh, hopefully the sideeffect is a is an evolution for
the planet as well.
So, you know, I grew up doingyoga, I grew up learning all

(03:28):
about Eastern, you know,religions as well as religions
from around the world.
So I had a childhood thatinvolved uh meeting many from
religious scholars to spiritualleaders, from rabbis to
Christian monks to Sikhs toyogis.
That was a common dailyoccurrence for me, and I had to

(03:50):
learn also about worldreligions, the connection to
religions.
And then as a teenager, I reallystarted to find my way and my
path, which was through mysticalKabbalah, what's loosely known
as maybe Hermetic magic, Westernmystery traditions.
And then as I grew in that, Iwas really able to merge the

(04:13):
traditions and the mysteryschools.
And it's just been a numerologyis one of the foundations, the
way all of this was taught tome.
But it was taught to me as partof a dharma, a spiritual
tradition, a spiritual legacy,uh, not just like, hey, what's
fortune telling?
Numbers, because numbers tieinto tarot, it ties into

(04:35):
astrology.
So I really know it through thelens as a practice to evolve
your consciousness to have agreater experience of yourself
and your infinite soul.
So, numerology in of itself isactually like a yoga and it's a
spiritual practice.
So I've just been in it forever.

(04:56):
And it was a number of yearsago, I think living in Los
Angeles for quite a long time,it's a marketable skill set.
So there helped me like uh LAreally helped me to turn all of
this into an actual career, andI've been writing books on it.
This is my third book, so youknow, and it's so much more than

(05:17):
numerology.
That's just like a simplefoundation.
But again, this book has beensomething I probably should have
written it a few years ago.
But that's my my loose, simplebackground, and then whatever my
bio says.

SPEAKER_00 (05:32):
Which I will include the bio in the show notes for
everybody so you can have theofficial official verbiage about
Remington.
I just want to take a step backfor uh just a second.
So you list all of these thingsthat you had to study while you
were growing up.
And I know from speaking to youbefore, like you were teaching
yoga at seven, which is justmind-blowing to me.
Um, and so it feels to me likein some ways you're very much a

(05:55):
scholar.
Would you consider yourself ascholar?

SPEAKER_02 (05:58):
I mean, that's that's very much a facet of it,
but I do like to distinguish thewhere it could be academic or a
scholar, where you become anarmchair yogi or an armchair
magician, as my other teacheralways said.
So all of this has to be putinto practice.
And and that's definitely thedifference.
I have a strong reference pointand knowledge, but what I was

(06:22):
taught is how to put this intopractice.
And what does it actually mean?
And how can you utilize this asa powerful tool to give yourself
to help one of the tools to havea better life?
And I like your littlecatchphrase because it all is
inner work that starts tomanifest as outer work.
But yeah, I'm I'm pretty wellversed.

(06:45):
I have a lot of referencepoints, but uh, like I know
students or throughout my lifethat are getting, you know, PhDs
in ancient Tibetan language andTibetan Buddhism or other
systems.
But I'm like, have you ever evenmeditated?
Like, have you done it?
Have you put it into practice?
I always think of the sayingthat I heard it ain't spiritual

(07:07):
if it ain't practical.
Like if you if you're notputting it into practice, so but
I was exposed to a lot ofteachings from day one, and
whether it's mantra, whetherit's actual different religious
texts and things like that.
So I do enjoy that as well.
But then I was blessed to thesedifferent practices and how to

(07:30):
do it.
And then like, what does itactually mean for you?
You could see a number all daylong, but what and why, you
know, and and again, and it's inmy book, both of my numerology
books.
It's like the knowledge is onething, but if you allow the
numbers to open up somethingdeeper inside of you, and then

(07:52):
you're naturally gonna either beguided to the answer or your
consciousness will open upenough that you're like, aha,
all right, now I get it.
Right.
Like, so the number in and ofitself activates something
deeper within you.

SPEAKER_00 (08:07):
Yes.
Well, and I do love in the book,you do talk about different ways
to look at the numbers, whetherit be in your numerology book or
your angel number, and you saythings about how the what the
numbers might mean, but then yougive both sides, like what might
the number be telling you tolook out for, or what might the,
you know, like you try to givesome direction to help people

(08:28):
really think about how it wouldapply to their lives at that
given point in time.
Because I would also think, andyou can correct me here if I'm
wrong, I would also think if Isee the number three, which
we're gonna talk about that, inabundance today, versus I see
the number three two months fromnow, it might actually be
meaning something different tome at that point in time.

SPEAKER_02 (08:49):
Well, a little bit, yes, but it may be a different
course of action.
Like three is still gonna holdhow should I say it?
The the numerology and what Iwrite in my books, in particular
angel numbers, this is like my Iwant to write a book about
writing this book because thisis sort of it's it's simplified,

(09:14):
right?
I was asked to write 20,000words, which is not very long.
And if you saw the stacks ofnotebooks that I have and
reference points based onancient Hebrew, and which I I
don't know it so much as thespoken language, but I know how
to transliterate.
And the Hebrew letters havenumerical values, so a lot of

(09:37):
the definitions in here arebased on all the different words
that have been passed arounddifferent mystery schools for
probably thousands of years atthis point, or that rabbis and
other, say, Hebrew scholars havebeen keeping track of, also
rooted in ancient Greek system,because the ancient Greek has
numerical values to the letters,and then all of that can be put

(10:00):
into English as well, and thenother deeper teachings.
So it's from a tradition, andthat's the that's the thing.
So every a lot of my words arevery intentional, but as a
reader, you're not gonna know.
Like, for example, the number111.
I talk about sort of inspirednew beginnings, a lot of

(10:21):
potential.
It's a number of lightness andjoy.
Uh, but why is it lightness andjoy?
And part of that is because uhthis all merges even with tarot
and with mystical Kabbalah,because the Hebrew letter Aleph,
which is the first letter of thealphabet, is number one.
But if you spell out that letterAleph Lamid Pei in Hebrew, that

(10:44):
equals 111.
Well, that's also the letterthat corresponds to the full
card in the tarot.
The full card is the origin ofeverything, and hidden in that
is something known as the ain,the ain' soft, and the ain' soft
or nobody's gonna know what thatis.
And if I write that book, andexcept for like my students or
mystical cabalists, they'regonna be like, what the heck?

(11:05):
Like, I didn't want that.
Like that, I wanted to say,well, this is the energy of a
new beginning because ain't softand ain't soft or this is the
primordial, almost the negativespace in which all creation came
out of.
So it's like, what do you wantto create?
You're here, you're at it, it'sat your fingertips.
The fool is the spiritualteaching of trust and lightness

(11:28):
of being.
And I was always taught the foolis inebriated by spirit.
So it's really a happy, joyous,and free and powerful life.
But that gets that stuff is coolto me.
But my this was the hardest bookI ever wrote because I needed to
take all these ideas and thesetechnical terms if you're not
familiar with it and summarizeit in an easy way that I want

(11:49):
anybody could open this book andget a sense and be like, oh
yeah, I get it.
Right.
And originally in my firstdrafts, I had some of the
traditional meanings, and someof this comes from the Bible,
from the Zohar, from the Torahand other Greek and Rosicrucian
texts.
And it's like the words arewritten in these old languages

(12:11):
or coming from the Bible, likeeverybody's smiting each other,
you know.
Like, what does that mean?
So I just updated, I simplifiedit, and I want people to open
this like a uh fortune cookie orsomething, and just here's a few
paragraphs.
But even the the one through 99,I have pages and pages and pages
and pages of notes and referencepoints, and then just teachings

(12:35):
and things that were handed downto me.
My job for this book was to justwhat's the story here?
Let me summarize that as amessage for anybody reading it.

SPEAKER_00 (12:46):
Which I think you did a great job.
And you do talk in the verybeginning of your book about
numerology is a story, it'sabout storytelling.
And and you say that right upfront in one of the very
beginning pages.
I want to say maybe like aroundpage 19, 21-ish, you're kind of
talking about that, which Ithought was really interesting
because you almost made it soundlike a romance language, the way

(13:07):
you were talking about it.
So it was kind of pretty cool.

SPEAKER_02 (13:09):
I I love that perspective.

SPEAKER_00 (13:11):
Yeah, you did, it was really great.
So I have a really basicquestion.

SPEAKER_02 (13:16):
Okay.

SPEAKER_00 (13:16):
I maybe there isn't an answer to this.
Where did the term angel numberscome from?
Because they're still justnumbers based in numerology.
Where's where did the word angelnumber come from?

SPEAKER_02 (13:28):
I hope my publisher doesn't hear this.
So um, I really have no idea, tobe honest, being totally devout
and dedicated, almost to thepoint of like joining a monastic
order, never used that word,right?
I never heard it until, I don'tknow, a few years ago,
especially living in LA.
It just sort of is more commonspeak, right?

(13:51):
So in this sort of just currentvernacular, to me, it's a
little, I don't know, new agey.
But at this point, I think we'vecrossed a threshold where people
sort of understand and haveheard the term so much that I
was fine just calling this angelnumbers.
But in the traditions that thesethe real systems, if you will,

(14:14):
of numerology come from, it'snot called that.
But what I will say to take itdeeper is, for example, all of
the numbers one through ten thatcorrespond to the tree of life
of mystical Kabbalah in thetradition, the way it was taught
to me, each of those numbers notonly do they have corresponding

(14:37):
like planetary aspects, likethat's called the mundane
chakra.
So Gibbora is the number five,and that means severity, but
it's attributed to Mars.
Mars is attributed there, andthen there are names of God, and
then there are archangels andwhatnot that correspond.
So there are in reality, thereare angels that surround all of

(15:02):
the numbers, but I still nevercalled them angel numbers.
So I still find from thatcontext, it's interesting that
somehow people started pickingup on that.
And I think, too, we could say,well, there are mess angels can
be messengers or helpful energyfields or spirits, however, you
want to look at it, but think ofsomething beneficent and kind

(15:27):
coming from a greater universe.
Here's a little message.
So it is accurate.
I've just never used it.
And, you know, my publisherunderstood enough that like
people know about it this way.
And uh, so I was fine with itbecause I could write book two,
and I'll I'll attribute whatdifferent archangels or order of

(15:47):
angels or god names areattributed to the different
numbers.

SPEAKER_00 (15:51):
That makes sense then, and I would say angel
numbers is very like it's newage, it's it's very hip, it's
very cool, and it spans lots ofdifferent generations, and and
so you know, everybody kind ofknows what angel numbers are.
So, in that sense, I think yourbook has a perfect title.

SPEAKER_02 (16:06):
I agree.
I think because people will knowit as that, you know, so it's
easier, and it's funny becausethere's so much like you really
could get academic.
I could probably teach you likea college course on this based
on the root meanings and theancient Hebrew, but that's like
that's not practical numerology,you can't put that into

(16:29):
practice.
So I was lucky enough, I wastaught, and through my own
experiences, how you could takeall these disjointed sounding
words to smite a bowl, a fig,uh, you know, fruit, you know,
like one, one, one.
What I did write that in here.
One of I occasionally drop someof the traditional references is

(16:51):
a precious jewel, right?
So, you know, the idea is like,okay, take what I shared here.
What I want to say, withouttrying to seem like I'm trying
to prove myself, is that thethis book is really rooted in
something and rooted insomething ancient, because I
have looked through other booksor things online, it's not based

(17:15):
on anything, it's made up.
And at the same time thatnumerology is meant to be a tool
to open your consciousness andflow with it.
The difference here, becauseit's rooted in something, you're
gonna flow off a strongerfoundation, as opposed to you'll
see like the number four.
Well, it's protection becauseit's four walls or this or that.

(17:36):
And I'm like, well, that's notuntrue, right?
But where is that coming fromand why?
And that's this book is rooted.
So I hope my my real hope isthat people open it up and
they're seeing a number and itreally makes sense in an uncanny
way.

SPEAKER_00 (17:53):
Yeah, that makes sense.
All right, so I have a questionabout how you formatted the
book.
Like, how did you choose?
So just so everyone knows thebook starts off with triple
numbers, right?
So one, one, one, two, two, two,three, three, three, and we go
all the way up to nine, right?
Nine nine nine.
And then you skip 1010, whichwe're gonna ask about in a
second.
Then you get to quadruple 1111,and then you start and you do

(18:15):
one through 99.
And you cover each individualnumber, one through 99, right?
And you even talk about how ifyou see repeated numbers or like
an address, there are many waysthat we can look at it.
We can look at it as 528, or youcould look at it as five plus
two plus eight.
Like there's so many differentways to look at the numbers that
you see again and again.
So, my question under all thatis how did you decide that it

(18:39):
was the triple numbers and thenthe individual?

SPEAKER_02 (18:43):
Well, I knew first off, the triple numbers in my
experience is when people thinkof angel numbers, it's you know,
five, five, five, whatever,seven, seven, seven.
I was on the fence about 101010.
I mean, sorry, 1010.
1010, yes.
Because in the in the book, Iexplained a very simple sort of
Kabbalistic creation mythology,if you will.

(19:06):
But the idea behind anythingthree, which makes like a
triangle, is if you go fromcreation one, two, and three,
the three is the first time.
If you take three dots or threepoints, this is the first time
in the creation of the universethat you have something that
makes a container, you have allthese sides.

(19:27):
So the three is considered theidea of form.
So three is a powerful number ofmanifestation.
And so when we see things inthrees, because it's the space
that manifests all the conceptsof it, it really is stronger and
it seems more intense.
And I'm and people really noticethose numbers in my experience.

(19:50):
And that's why you would noticetriple numbers because people
will send me quadruple numbers.
Hey, I'm seeing seven, seven,seven, seven.

SPEAKER_01 (19:58):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (19:58):
But I can tell I know intuitively when I look at
that, it just the energydissipates.
Whereas three holds a strongerspace.
Interesting.
And and so part of it's popularculture, but a lot of it's
really the mystical Kabbalah.
And then I just know that 11-11,that's like the big one.
I even explain in my book, it'slike the most popular, and

(20:22):
nobody knows what it means,which is sort of what 11-11
means because 11 is like thisinfinite expanse of everything.
Well, what the heck does thatmean?
Right.
So I'm trying to contextualizeit and give you like uh, you
know, that it's each one ofthose is like a little over a
thousand words.
So it was a real discipline tokeep it brief.

(20:44):
Yeah.
Um, 1010, I don't think it'sjust I don't know, it just
doesn't come up.
I could have 12, 12.
I, you know, I mean, 1010, Iwould mostly be drawing out what
is 10 even mean.
So, and then one through 99.
I knew that if I had that, youhave all the numbers to some
degree.
So, whatever it is, what thereal practice of numerology is

(21:07):
that here's there's two rules.
The first rule is there are norules, and to contradict that,
the second rule, even thoughthere are no rules, is there are
no coincidences.
Okay, so it's meant to be amind-bending opening experience,
which I say is like a story.
So if you have one through 99,you can now juxtapose any

(21:28):
numbers.
And so that's where it's up toyou to start to flow with it.
It's like, you know, I I alwaysthink too how like you could
have September 11th, or we call911, but somehow 911 is
September 11th.

SPEAKER_01 (21:45):
Right.

SPEAKER_02 (21:45):
Right.
So I will say, or like anaddress, like how do you say it?
Maybe look at those numbers.
You know, like if your addressis 45, 4598, I bet you most
people say I live at 4598.

SPEAKER_01 (22:00):
Right.

SPEAKER_00 (22:00):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (22:01):
Right.
So that's like holding thatenergy and that frequency.
So I would personally look atthose two numbers first.
So the numerology is not meantto be like a strict way it has
to be done.
But I knew that if I laid outthose, all those numbers, you
could come up with any number.

SPEAKER_00 (22:21):
Yes.
That's so interesting.
And you just made me think asyou're talking about how you say
a number, and I was like, Oh,I'm thinking about my address.
And I'm like, oh, you know, Ilive at 163.
Like, it's not 163.
I live at 163, is how I say it,which is so interesting.
So now I'm like, oh, okay.
So I'm gonna go look up a oneand a 63.
That's kind of cool.

SPEAKER_02 (22:41):
Now I'm like, wait, what is I've been using this
book as my own reference becauseeven though I wrote it, I'm
like, wait, how did Icontextualize this one again?
Like, I know there are someauthors, they like write their
book and they're so fanaticalthat it's like they remember
every line.
I swear to God, I just get intothis zone and I'm like, wait,
did I do that?

(23:01):
Like, I just like come up forair and there's a book under me.
Uh 63, be thankful for what youhave.
Um, so be thankful for yourhouse, if that's the address.
Like I have a double number, butyou just brought up something
good because I was like, wait aminute, it's 163.
Like that's how I would say it,even though when I look at it,

(23:23):
it's 163.
163.
Yeah.
So even a triple, whatever, butyou know, play around with it.
When I was in Egypt a few yearsago and the the emergency code,
it was like in case of fire,dial 666.

SPEAKER_00 (23:37):
Yes.

SPEAKER_02 (23:38):
And I was like, oh, that's their uh 911.

SPEAKER_00 (23:41):
Right.
Yes.
Okay, so I'm so glad you broughtup 666 because I actually had a
couple specific questions.
And 666 is one of them.
So 666 is often people are like,oh, you saw three sixes, six,
six, six.
That's the devil number.

SPEAKER_02 (23:56):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (23:56):
Talk to me about that because that's not how you
describe it in your book.

SPEAKER_02 (24:00):
Well, I did I did get into that a bit.
So I mean, six in of itself is anumber of sort of cosmic
harmony, and it and it reallyrepresents a flow of beauty.
It's attributed to the sun.
Now, six, six, six is really thenumber of enlightened humanity,

(24:23):
or it's the idea of your highestself, because six.
Well, one of the reasons is sixis considered the union of the
macrocosm and the microcosm.
If you look at a six-sided staror a hexagram in the magical and
kabbalistic traditions, that'sGod and man, or you know,

(24:45):
however, whatever that greaterforce of the universe, the
divine mixing with the mundane.
Now, six six six is code foryour highest self, but the
spiritual teaching is that yourhighest self is really your
divine self and it's connectedto your soul that's connected to
God, goddess.

(25:06):
You know, I don't want tointerfere with someone else's
experience or how they like tosay that.
But so 666 is like thisgreatness or this power, but you
have to know that it's not you,your ego, that who you are and
even your higher self is merelya reflection and is a reflection

(25:27):
of something divine.
The trappings and where itbecomes satanic, if you will, in
the context of this tradition,Satan even sort of loosely means
that which separates you fromGod.
All of a sudden the ego comes inand you're like, you know what?
I'm it's me.

SPEAKER_01 (25:46):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (25:46):
Right.
So on a spiritual path wheresomeone becomes dark or uh say a
black magician or something,this is getting a little deeper
than I thought I'd talk on thispodcast, but um is when, you
know, you've been verydedicated, say on a spiritual
path, but it could just beyou're very dedicated to your

(26:06):
work and your profession andwhatever the case is, but you
realize just once you think thatit's not coming from something
higher, that what you have isn'tsome blessing from spirit, and
that your higher self isn'tthat.
And when once you think it'syou, that's where things go
dark, and that's where youseparate and you remove spirit

(26:28):
out of it.
And so the idea of like thedevil is like really ego, false
self-run amok.
And then it's considered in theBible the number of the beast at
one, but we are also all beastsin that we're in a corporeal
form as an animal.
But so you can get really likeheady and layered, but overall

(26:53):
it's it's a reminder that youhave greater capacity, greater
capability.
But when you realize when youthink it's all about you and
your ego, that's where it allgoes dark.

SPEAKER_00 (27:04):
And that's so perfectly said.
I love that explanation.
Yeah, it's not saying like it'sdeath, it's saying it's just
like the death card in tarot.
It's like it's not necessarilysaying you're going to die.
It's a lot of times it's anawareness that you need to look
inward for an awareness ofsomething that isn't actually
aligned with your highest self.

SPEAKER_02 (27:23):
Yeah, exactly.
And so if you're seeing 666,generally speaking, it's gonna
be a message to say, hey, bringyour best self to the to the
situation, but know that yourbest self really, if you're just
an open conduit of somethinghigher, everything will really
flow.
And six is the number ofharmony.
So, but it gets a skew, right?

(27:45):
The ego of of mankind, you know,some of the the like biblical
texts and references andscholarly texts to 666 think it
also referred to Emperor Nero.
So it's like he just was likewanton, reckless, blind ambition
of materialism and gain, and Iam the one, I'm the emperor,

(28:08):
right?
Yeah.
So where do you become that typeof tyrant?
And where do you get sodisconnected from spirit that
the only goal you have ismaterial gain?
And you forget that all theblessings and everything
everyone has comes still allcomes from spirit.

SPEAKER_00 (28:23):
Yeah, I love that.

SPEAKER_02 (28:25):
So it's a very layered number, but I also think
people are afraid of it becausewe're also in inadvertently
afraid the devil in the magicaltradition is like the part of us
that we demonize our success andour spiritual growth.
Right.
So we're afraid.
Sometimes we're afraid to makethat leap.
We're afraid to get out of acomfort zone, right?

(28:48):
Or we're afraid of our ownability and power.
Sure, of course.
So very common.
That's where there's a lot offear and misunderstanding around
it.
And it's a very, I could write abook probably just on 666.

SPEAKER_00 (29:01):
It sounds like it.
Yeah, that's awesome, though.
I love that.
Thank you.
All right, so let's talk aboutanother specific number.
So I posted this on on Instagramthis morning.
I go on TikTok a couple times aweek.
I'm not there all the time.
I went on to TikTok, I openedTikTok and I looked at
something, and then I happenedto look at my profile and I
follow 33 people.
I had 333 people following me,and I had like 3,833 likes or

(29:28):
something like that.
I can't remember.
Right.
But I was like, I was like, lookat all those threes, and then an
eight in the middle.
And I was like, look at allthose threes.
Okay, so really practical forsomeone if you're someone like
me and I see that and I see allthose threes and I pick up your
book.
What am I going to learn byreading your book about all
those threes?

SPEAKER_02 (29:46):
So I reposted that post, and one of my students
messaged me and they said, Itsounds like this uh podcast
might have to be a therapysession.

SPEAKER_00 (29:56):
That's why I was like, Yes, this is so good.
We're gonna use V as our.
Real life example here, folks.

SPEAKER_02 (30:01):
Well, they know enough about threes or three
three three because they followa lot of my deeper work.
Like, if you hop on my Patreon,I'm gonna the backstory to all
these numbers well as what I cantalk about.
I mean, a little bit here too,obviously.
But in general, like uh like Iwas saying earlier, three
represents something manifest.
In Mystical Kabbalah, it'sattributed to Saturn.

(30:23):
Saturn is the taskmaster.
In my book, I frame threes aslike or Saturn as Saturn gets
what Saturn wants because sheworks for it.
Okay.
And so it's a number of applyingyourself, being disciplined,
getting to work, but it meansit's usually a sign that hey,

(30:45):
you're coming along, but there'sstill work to be done.
It's a roll up your sleeves, getyour hands dirty, and do it.
Now, 333 gets a lot deeperbecause 333 is often it's
unresolved issues that need tobe addressed in some form or
another.
And my joke is like, what'scoming back to haunt you?

(31:08):
And this this is comes from sucha deeper place of the Hermetic
tradition, but it it sort ofrepresents this energy uh in
this area known as the abyss, orlet's say the dark night of the
soul might be a way people haveheard that in some way or form
or another.

(31:29):
But it's this where everythingyou thought you've overcome is
coming back up.
So everything you thought you'veresolved, but that's like heavy
and deep, like too intense.
But it's literally like, hey,there's some more work to do.
So why don't we get into thosedetails?
And uh Saturn again is thetaskmaster.

(31:52):
And one of the things I say inmy book is it's kind of like God
helps those who help themselves.
So it's just saying, like, let'ssay you wanted to grow TikTok.
Let's just keep it reallysimple.
You don't you're not on it thatmuch, and all of a sudden, all
these threes that might be ahint that say, hey, you know,
Gene, perhaps you should growthis platform a little more.

(32:14):
Maybe you should put a littlemore work into that media of it
because that's where all theeyeballs are, you know.

SPEAKER_01 (32:21):
Sure.

SPEAKER_02 (32:22):
So it's something like that.
You know, my clue into the bookthat I was really on to
something, even though I'm justsharing the basic teachings of
the numbers, is myfather-in-law.
As I was writing the book, hewas visiting and he was like,
Remington, I am seeing 333, likeyou wouldn't believe.
And he's he's a real, he's gotthat like Massachusetts Boston

(32:45):
accent.
He's huge character, right?
He's like, You wouldn't believeit.
I'm seeing three, three, he usedto be the mayor of their city,
he's just like high energy guy.
So I let him read the chapter.
Like, it wasn't quite the final,but it was basically it.
And I said, Read three threethree, tell me what you think.
And he his like jaw dropped, andhe was like, Oh my god, this is

(33:06):
exactly what I'm going through.
And he was going through a lotof details with his business,
which he owns with his brothers,and a lot of work throughs, and
there's a lot of things thatthey need to resolve and a lot
of details moving forward, whichinvolved legal stuff, all
positive stuff, but there wasjust a lot of nitty-gritty.

(33:28):
And he couldn't believe.
And so, right there, I was like,I'm I'm really this book is on
to something because his mindwas blown.
He's not like meditating, doinginner work.
He's a great guy, he's superopen-minded.
But yeah, like my mom, I we grewup on a I grew up on an ashram.
My mom's gonna be like, Yeah,I'm seeing this number, but um,

(33:48):
when he told me everything hewas doing with the business,
which was about resolving anyfuture issues or conflicts and
getting all this other stuffsquare, and it'd been a lot of
work, it made so much sense.
So that was my big clue.
I was like, this is it.
There's something to this, yes,yes.

SPEAKER_00 (34:07):
Well, I so I saw all those threes.
I posted and I was like, Yeah, Iam talking to you because this
is real life.
You can help me with this.
And I did go and I read the 333part of the book, and I was
like, Oh wow, I have to comeback and really sit and think
about that.
Because I felt personally for myown life, I'm trying to build
and create and do a lot ofdifferent things.
But the way I interpreted it waslike, oh wow, I read the first

(34:29):
part and I was like, okay, Igotta go read about the threes
and go read about 33 too, andread, I was gonna read all
three.
And then I need to go and sitdown with that and really think
about how that applies to mylife and where I am and what I'm
working on, and like reallyactually sit and kind of absorb
that, which was very cool.

SPEAKER_02 (34:48):
And A, you're a great student.
Like that's that's what I wantbecause what is it for you?
I mean, is it really buildingout TikTok?
Like that's part of it, but it'slike it's just a message of what
you said, but now it's likeokay, the universe is telling
you something about work.
33 is another sort of miss.
There's so much like conspiracytheory that I see, and people

(35:11):
always send me numerology stuff,but 33 is a really sort of
number of blessings.
You're doing it exactly the wayI intended.
Like you're gonna the experienceis gonna unravel in your own
consciousness, and you're gonnacome up with an answer, right?
Is it work?
Is there some sort of unresolvedsomething?
Maybe, or maybe it's just like,I better, you know, I better get

(35:35):
going on this.
It's managerial tasks, you know.

SPEAKER_00 (35:39):
The unresolved issues.
I was like, oh man, I have to gosee my mom this afternoon and
knows me, and my mom, and shehas dementia and that
relationship, and I don't evenlike her, but I'm helping her.
Let's like, I'm like, oh, herewe go.
I was like, that's handing thaton a plate right there.

SPEAKER_02 (35:53):
My editor asked if I could put some of my personal
experience that would help maybehelp people have some context.
Yeah, but it's like that's I puttwo basically two examples was
based.
Well, when I was writing thebook, I was seeing 333
constantly, and I'm like, Igotta go back over, I gotta
rewrite.
Anyone who's written a bookknows you don't just write one

(36:15):
book, you write about, you know,anywhere from four to ten books.
Yes.
So it's kind of exhausting, butI kept seeing it and I'm like,
okay, what do I have to retweak?
What do I need to go back overand edit before I finally set it
in?
But I do notice when I go to NewYork City, which is where
basically my ancestors fromcoming to America from a hundred

(36:38):
and something years ago, they'veall been rooted there.
So I'm seeing like, you know, isit all negative issues?
It's just like something that'smy past, that's my ancestral
past until I get to Europe andall those places.
But it's like, okay, a hundredand something years of New
Yorkers.
Why am I always seeing 333?

(37:01):
And that really fascinated me inone of my last trips.
I just started to think about itand I shared that in the book,
but it's not always like bad,it's just it's every number is
you can you can use it in a verypositive way.

SPEAKER_00 (37:16):
Yes, yes, or or it could be there to help you get
an awareness, and you know, andif you don't pay attention and
don't do the work, my guess isthat number's gonna keep
appearing until you are doingthe work.

SPEAKER_02 (37:30):
Yeah, in particular, that one, you know, like 444 is
sort of that's the easyblessings number.
I think I what I say, it's likethese are not the ones in
disguise, yeah, you know.
Um, so I was like, I wish I sawthat number more.
I'm like, please, universe, morefour, four, fours.

(37:51):
Is this number of perfect love?
Um, I do see a lot because welive in Vermont, my wife and I
and our kids, it's so rural.
The license plates all have sixdigits, three letters and three
numbers.
So the opportunity to see tripledigit angel numbers is like
constant here.
Yes, like somebody was trying tolet me out and trap like try I

(38:14):
say traffic, but they weretrying to let me out after like
living in LA for a long time.
But I saw, of course, theirlicense plate was 888.
I'm like, oh, the life force ofthe universe, this like little
angels coming in, but I couldn'tget through because too much
oncoming traffic.
But it was funny because he wasjust trying to be super nice,

(38:36):
and so I'm like thinking now outloud, like, what is that 888?
That's like life force, it'ssomething eternal, making
something sustainable andpermanent.
Uh, we I was leaving from thedonut shop because that's how I
lure, that's how I lured my kidto go out and go grocery
shopping.
I was like, we'll get a donut.
There you go.
But I I don't know yet what itmeans.

(38:56):
Like, I need to sort of think onit.

SPEAKER_00 (38:59):
Yeah, and let it come to you.
Yeah, which is good.

SPEAKER_02 (39:01):
And just for the record, I want people probably
think that I am like obsessingconstantly like a madman looking
at numbers.
And I'm not, it's just you get asense when it's a message, and
sometimes it's just it's anumber.
Probably that license plate, itprobably wasn't number.
It just felt like, hey, what anice little guy who has a lot of
upbeat energy wants to helppeople.

(39:23):
Eight is the healer, it's it's ahelpful energy.

SPEAKER_00 (39:26):
Yeah.
Well, but you do talk in yourbook about like not
overanalyzing and not goingcrazy.
Like sometimes you see numbersand they don't mean anything.
And I don't know where in thebook you had this story, but you
had a story about someonecalling you and being like,
Should I take this flight atthis time?
Because the time the flightleaves is a better number.
And your response is like, don'tgo that deep with it.

(39:48):
Does it work for you?
Like, does the time work foryou?

SPEAKER_02 (39:51):
Like, yeah, exactly.
Like, and there, and again, youknow, at the same token, you
might like get an intuitivesense.
Like, as you here's whatnumerology does is it creates
it, it opens up yourconsciousness, and then
synchronicity starts to happenin your life, right?
So it's like synchronicity islike a message of destiny, or

(40:14):
it's a spiritual language, in myopinion.
And so when you're in thatalignment and things like how I
know you've experienced, I knowpeople listening where all of a
sudden they just have that dayand they run into like
opportunity, it all is like notstrategized and this great flow.
And then so, but if you startpracticing and working with the

(40:34):
numbers, you'll notice in otherareas of your life will start
flowing.
And so, as you do it more, youwould get a sense of intuition,
like, hmm, maybe that wouldn'tbe a good flight, but for the
most part, you you gotta berealistic.
Like in my first book, I Ishared a story.
I changed a flight, so I wantedto change my seating, and I was

(40:58):
like New York to LA.
And I was like, Oh, oh, the 22Ais open.
I'm like, 22 is a number ofconnections and 22 paths on the
trail.
I love that number.
And A is Olive is the fool.
Oh, there'll be a nice, light,fun trip.
And all I wanted to do is likeunwind.
I was gonna watch movies, Iwanted to veg out, and then my

(41:19):
screen didn't work.
I sat next to someone eatinglike a like a tuna sandwich that
they brought on a plane thatthey they hadn't showered, they
were wearing uh one of thosetank, like sleeveless tank top
things.
And then the other woman waseating like you know, teriyaki
beef jerky.
It was like, you know, all theseyou know odors.

(41:40):
And I was like, are you kiddingme?
And I couldn't even watch amovie.
So but I felt like I had forcedthat number.
Oh, that's such a good number.
I should have just whatever,take it, kept my like, I don't
know.
It's like you can't force iteither.
Right.
You know, that's the point.

SPEAKER_00 (41:56):
Yes, yes, you can, which is beautiful.
All right.
So share with us before we runout of time here.
What does your life look like?
What does a day look like forsomebody like you who does this
for a living?

SPEAKER_02 (42:09):
Well, it incorporates more of the
numerology, but my basicday-to-day, I mean, I really
like to do meditations likeearly morning, but sometimes
with you know, young kids, itdoesn't always work out that
way.
So it's always a little familytime in the morning.
And then a lot of my work islike I is a lot of teaching

(42:31):
online, video content on myPatreon.
And then if I see clients andthen working with an editor to
put more on social media, andthen really having the space
because a lot of this iscreative, and where am I going
to make a video?
Say from my Patreon or coming upwith workshops, there's like

(42:52):
themes.
So I put a lot of time and someresearch into well, I have to
create a narrative or a storyabout this situation, or what is
this astrology about?
Because I, you know, I'm alsothis astrology, it's tarot, it's
numerology.
They're uh they all merge as oneharmonized thing, which is
mystical cabbala or mysticism.

(43:13):
So that's my like day-to-daywork.
And then, you know, now a lot ofit's family and with the house,
but now it's like prepping forwinter.
But I always try to get in somesacred meditative practice and
writing.
And again, it's a lot of I makea lot of videos, but they're

(43:34):
very intentional.
So I'm looking through a lot ofmy books that are all back here.
What teachings can I share?
But how is it helpful for thisperson?
So, but that's kind of my job.
I mean, I'm grateful thanks toLA, like it's a marketable skill
set.
Like, I learned how to turn thisinto a career, which every day I
have to remind myself that I'msuper grateful that I get to do

(43:57):
what I do, and it's I could turnit into a thing.
So, and then I'm planning morebooks.
I have book signings coming up.
I'm doing one in if anybody'sNew England, Manchester, Vermont
at North Shire Bookstore on the18th.
And then on 1113, Andover,Massachusetts, at a place called
Prevay.

(44:18):
And then I have something in theworks in Newberryport, Mass.
I want to do something.
I got to find a good spot inConnecticut.
My old roots where I mostly growup.

SPEAKER_00 (44:28):
So you do, you do, and I will come.
Well, yeah, we're gonna havethis episode come out in a
couple of weeks because I putyou on the calendar, but waited
to do the actual recording untilyour book was out.
But you've been on the calendarto come out, so this will this
will actually come out in twoweeks for everybody so that it
will be close.
It'll be be October two weeks isOctober 16th, 17th-ish.

(44:49):
So it'll come out before thenbecause I wanted people to get
it right before the 18th.

SPEAKER_02 (44:54):
Yeah.
North Shire Bookstore is one ofthe best bookstores in America.
I'm not just saying that becauseit's my local bookstore and I'm
friendly and they're verysupportive.
It really is like on the map.
So it's it's a fun.
I mean, Manchester, Vermont,it's a great little day trip if
you're close enough.
And it's fall, so it's we gotall the magic.

SPEAKER_00 (45:17):
All oh yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (45:18):
But give out shots of maple syrup.

SPEAKER_00 (45:21):
There you go.
I love the polar opposites to LAand Vermont where you live now,
are are truly amazing.
Like they couldn't be moredifferent destinations within
our country, I think, than thosetwo.

SPEAKER_02 (45:33):
Yeah, I had to learn how to use a chainsaw uh bunch
of things.
Like, what's the numerology ofchainsaw?

SPEAKER_00 (45:42):
Right, exactly.
Ari, before we run out of time,you are building a studio.
Talk to us about your studio andwhat you're gonna be doing with
this new studio.

SPEAKER_02 (45:50):
Well, a lot of it's gonna be so like for studio,
it's kind of small, but I willum moving into next year, I want
to host some deeper immersionsthat relate to tarot and all the
things that I teach andnumerology and whatnot, because
again, they all merge.
And then a lot of it's where I'mgonna be set up to film the

(46:12):
workshops and the stuff that Iteach online.
And I want to get my podcast upand going again.
So just having the space finallyand just being able to work from
home and still feel like, hey,I'm going off to work.
So we just put in the beautifulbirch floors and we have huge
windows and mountain views.
So it's it's very uh bucoliclittle setting here.

(46:36):
So, but I will keep in uh yourears open because these are
gonna be small as it grows.
Some of it will start offinvite.
Um, but I'm gonna do moreimmersions and I have other
things in the works that I gottakeep quiet, but I will keep you
posted because I'd love if youshare and I'm trying to branch
out in New England more.

SPEAKER_00 (46:57):
Oh, cool.
That would be great.
Yeah, share along.
And I'll put in the show notestoo how people can follow you on
Instagram and they can go toyour website and they could sign
up.
You have a newsletter, you haveall kinds of things, and um, you
and your wife, she does like anamazing job with communication
for sure.

SPEAKER_02 (47:12):
Oh, yeah, she's a whiz.
Also, I have starting at the endof October, we offer our
numerology reports, which isyour numerology for the year,
which I I think is just knowingwhat your number is for the year
is just a direct point.
Like people that love astrology,you can really get so bogged
down.
And I feel like you get to apoint of crazy where you're like

(47:34):
navigating the world like likeyou're a cat thief going into
it, like a one of those movies,those heist movies, and there's
all the lasers and they'retrying to go through the museum
or something.
And it's like, here's yournumber.
Remember this, and um, those arevery helpful.
So, yeah, I'll keep you postedand thank you, everybody.
It's I love it, and I love ourlittle we're kind of close.

SPEAKER_00 (47:58):
We're kind of close, absolutely.
We're kind of close, and I lovefollowing you on Instagram.
And just a plug for everybody.
You mentioned the numbers of theyear that come out in November.
I did that, I bought them asgifts for people, and you guys
do this like beautiful way thatyou write them and they come in
an envelope and it's sealed, andit's it's such a special gift.
So I did do it last year for acouple of people, in addition to

(48:20):
doing it for myself.
And it was it's just a reallyunique special gift to give to
someone is an insight into themand their number for the
upcoming year, which is verycool.

SPEAKER_02 (48:30):
There's a ton of intention.
I play prosperity mantra.
There's like just, yeah, it's uhwe put a lot into it.

SPEAKER_00 (48:37):
You do, and you can tell when you get it.
It's a great gift.

SPEAKER_02 (48:39):
All right, it's always an honor talking to you.

SPEAKER_00 (48:42):
And thank you so much, Remington, for coming.
I really appreciate it.
And we will absolutely stay intouch.
I hope everybody has a beautifulday.
Thank you for joining us foranother episode of the House of
Germar podcast, where wellnessstarts within.
We appreciate you being a partof our community and hope you
felt inspired and motivated byour guest.

(49:04):
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