April 24, 2025 • 52 mins
Rock bottom has a way of becoming solid ground when you're ready to rebuild. In this powerful conversation, Austin Linney shares his extraordinary transformation from methamphetamine addiction and alcoholism to becoming a thriving entrepreneur, business owner, and mindset coach.
Austin doesn't hold back as he recounts the moment everything changed - staying awake for eight days straight on meth, seeing hallucinations, and finally receiving the wake-up call that prompted him to walk away from hard drugs forever. While his journey to total sobriety took years, his raw honesty about the process illuminates how our darkest moments can become our greatest teachers.
What makes Austin's coaching approach particularly effective is his commitment to authenticity. "One of my first mentors said it's very easy to be a coach if you're authentic to who you are... You only coach what you've been through," Austin explains. This philosophy allows him to connect deeply with clients facing similar struggles, whether addiction, divorce, or major life transitions.
The conversation explores fascinating territory beyond recovery, diving into why successful business people often have damaged personal lives, how we wear masks to please others, and why most people need permission to become who they've always meant to be. Austin shares intimate insights about his spiritual growth journey, working through childhood trauma, and preparing himself to break generational patterns as he looks toward fatherhood.
Ready to construct a life that truly reflects who you are? This episode delivers profound wisdom for anyone seeking authentic change. Remember to follow us on Instagram @HouseofJermar and subscribe to join our mission of empowering 1 million women to live all in.
Austin's Book Recommendation:
The Five Levels of Attachment by Don Miguel Ruiz
What You Say When You Talk to Yourself? by Shad Helmstetter
More about Austin:
Austin Linney is a serial entrepreneur, real estate investor, business and mindset coach, and host of the weekly podcast, Construct Your Life with Austin Linney. He has built an expansive network of top professionals in leading industries and helped countless individuals break through obstacles and become who they were meant to be.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
One of the things that is very easy to do and I
don't say easy, but I saythere's been practice.
I've coached a lot of people,but one of my first mentors and
coaches, who coached me throughaddiction, said it's very easy
to be a coach if you'reauthentic to who you are.
And I said what do you mean?
He goes.
You never have to worry aboutclients because you only coach
what you've been through.
Yeah, sure, and so you onlyattract.
(00:22):
And so when people come to meand they're like, hey, you know,
I think I'm not getting adivorce, I'm like okay, I've
been through that.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Cool yeah, addiction yeah.
Welcome to the House of Jermarpodcast, where wellness starts
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(00:52):
We are honored to have you joinus on our mission to empower 1
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I am your host, jean Collins,and I invite you to become
inspired by this week's guest.
And I invite you to becomeinspired by this week's guest.
Welcome to the House of Germarpodcast, where wellness starts
within.
I'm your host, jean Collins,and today we are going to talk
to a guest who has the mostfascinating background.
(01:15):
Today we have Austin Linney onthe show.
Austin is an entrepreneur, he'sa real estate investor, he runs
businesses.
He's also an incredible mindsetcoach, and that's how I got
introduced to him.
So everybody, please welcomeAustin to the show.
We're going to have a greatfunny conversation.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
Thanks for having me.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
You're welcome, we also want to.
I want to make sure I rememberto mention you also have your
own podcast, which is actuallyreally interesting.
I've listened to a bunch ofyour episodes.
Your podcast is calledConstruct your Life, which is so
interesting, and you have theseFriday rants, which is also
really cool.
I can totally relate to those.
So we're going to dig into thata little bit as well.
But I would love if you couldshare with everybody.
(01:55):
Your bio is deep and, I want tosay, in some ways, dark, but I
would love if you could sharethe highlights of your
background, of how you got to bewhere you are today, and that
is a very loaded large question,folks.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
Yeah, so it has a lot to do with methamphetamines, it
has a lot to do with living ina closet and it has a lot to do
with cocaine and alcohol.
So I don't know how that wasfor a starter, but I like to
keep it spicy in the beginning.
There you go.
You know, when I was 17 yearsold, my parents came to me and
(02:30):
they said you know, look, you'regetting in too much trouble in
school.
We don't think this is theplace for you anymore.
You don't seem to, really.
I have a photographic memory,but I just didn't care about
school.
And so they said you need to goto Beaumont or you need to go
to the military school.
And I said well, I don't knowwhere either one of those places
are, but one of them is inTexas.
(02:51):
It's where my parents grew up,which is by the border, where
all the oil is from.
And I was like okay, but I'llgo there.
So we go there.
I went from living on a countryclub with a maid in the house to
living on five acres in a 500square foot house with my mom.
So I went from 4,200 kids in myschool to 140.
(03:15):
And so it was just like at 17,.
Middle of my junior year, it'sa whole thing.
And then two months after thatmy dad drives in from Houston
and says we're getting a divorce.
My parents had never fought infront of me, I think I mean at
least I think as a kid, I don'tremember and so I proceeded to
blame myself because I was a badkid and then they didn't
(03:39):
correct me, which they laterapologized for 20 years later.
But then I proceeded to feellost and stuck and my dad got
remarried quickly and he waswith his new family and I felt
left behind.
I started working in therestaurant business and that's
when I fell in with anybody whowould hang out with me and give
(04:00):
me validation, and that's wherethe drugs and alcohol got
introduced into my life.
I was always a good kid per seand I think the problem with
drugs, especially back when thatwas going on it's a little
different now, I think.
But you just do it on theweekends when you're working.
(04:22):
It's just the restaurantbusiness Back in the day, that's
just what we did.
But the problem is is thoseweekends started turning into
Monday, tuesday, wednesdays, andthat's when the problems
started arising.
But I never miss work, so you'relike it's always this weird
world where you're messed up butyou're still getting all your
stuff done, so nobody cancomplain.
(04:43):
But they know you're not right,and so you're kind of doing
these things.
So I got to a point where oneof the low points for me was I
had stayed up for eight daysstraight on meth, but I was
taking Xanax at night to try togo to bed.
Oh my goodness, but I couldn'tgo to bed.
So I was living in this halfawake, half world.
(05:06):
And so on day seven I startedseeing rabbits, but there was no
actual rabbits.
And so what happened was I wasat work.
I don't know why I was there.
I shouldn't have been there.
I wasn't working, I was tryingto eat because I hadn't eaten
much the whole time working.
I was trying to eat because Ihadn't eaten much the whole time
(05:26):
and an ex-girlfriend had saw meand I lost some weight and she
was like hey, this ain't you.
I don't know what's going onwith you.
You look like shit and forwhatever reason, that was the
big wake up call from some, Idon't know from somebody.
So I went home that day,sobered up the next day, packed
up all my stuff and left, and Inever did hard drugs again.
(05:49):
I just quit it right then youjust quit.
I just quit.
I have this weird mind where itmight take me a long time to
get to the point because I'mvery stubborn, but when I do,
it's done.
But the problem is that I movedto Austin and I started working
in another restaurant.
The problem is is that thedrugs just led into me abusing
alcohol?
Oh good, I wasn't abusing thisanymore, but that proceeded for
(06:14):
me to be a functioning alcoholicfor almost 20 years.
Wow and so.
But the issue being is likethat was my job.
I was a server of booze and Imade drinks and I sold wine, and
so you're just kind of like hey, this is what I do, I taste
wine for a living and I sellwine, and so it's so acceptable,
especially in society.
(06:35):
Now it's getting a little morepeople are looking into it more
on the booze stuff.
But yeah, so I've been sober aswe're recording this, I've been
sober six years and two weeks.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
Congratulations.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
So, 36 years old, decided to Lost 70 plus pounds.
I got laid off from my privatethis is all during COVID I got
laid off from my private equityjob.
I got separated from a 13-yearmarriage and I started my
podcast in a 10-day stretch.
Wow.
Year marriage and I started mypodcast in a 10 day stretch Wow.
(07:08):
So it's been this kind of liketransformation and I kind of
fell into coaching.
It wasn't something I wanted todo.
It was something I wanted to do10 years from now.
But I had a guy during COVID.
He said I need someaccountability and I said, yeah,
I'm not doing that.
But thanks, man, I appreciateit and he goes well.
I already sent you the money.
But, thanks, man, I appreciateit and he goes well.
I already sent you the money inyour Venmo account, so you
better figure it out.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
No way.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
Yeah, so that's how I got my first client and that
kind of took off from there.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
Did you have any idea what you were doing in terms of
how to be a coach?
Speaker 1 (07:38):
Oh no, I'll tell you True story.
True story, this is a truestory.
I'm helping a guy.
I'm toying around with the idea, not getting paid for it.
I'm coaching people for free,toying around with it, working
through some stuff.
I get on a call with a guy fromour group, our mastermind.
We were in.
This is a true story.
I get on a call Within twominutes.
(07:59):
He's got three kids and he goes.
I want to leave my wife and I,literally I felt my heart 20
feet behind me because in thatmoment, okay, this isn't
playtime, this is real, this ispeople's lives.
You are involved in their life100%.
I've helped people throughaddiction.
I've helped dads.
(08:19):
I've helped my clients' dadsthrough addiction and get sober.
I've helped people throughdivorce and all these things.
And so in that moment I took itvery seriously.
But I always said to myself Isaid, look, as long as you do
what your heart thinks is theright, best thing, I think
you're going to be all right.
And so those first couple ofyears, man, I was just banging
around in the dark with coachingpeople, but I cared so much
(08:42):
that I've grown through thewhole thing.
And then I got some trainingfrom a group and I've been
through the levels and I workedon my own stuff and since then
we've kind of refined it.
But yeah, no, it was a this istrue.
Another true story I couldn'tget my second client to save my
life, Like I got the one and Iwas like going through this
thing.
And so a mentor at the time whothis is a true story he was
(09:04):
making I think he was makinglike 400 grand a month with his
businesses.
I mean, the dude's a killer, ohmy goodness, I mean the guy's a
monster.
I mean, he's just, he's the man.
He's the man, very successful.
He said I'm going to hire youto coach me.
And I was like no, no, no, no.
I said what am I going to?
(09:28):
No, no, same thing.
Money's already in your Venmo.
Better figure it out.
I'm like what am I going to do?
And so I want to vomit leadingup to this call.
You can barely get him on thephone.
I don't know what I'm going todo.
And so right before the call, Igo wait, he's not hiring me to
coach him in his business, heknows his business.
He's hiring me to see somethingthat he can't see.
And so I said I don't know whatI'm going to see, but I'm going
(09:48):
to see it.
And so we talked for like 45minutes and it's basically like
him just getting stuff off ofhis chest and like talking about
life.
And then, like right at likethe last end of the call, I like
I hit him with something.
It hit him like it got to theheart and he goes something.
It hit him like it got to theheart and he goes all right,
that's what I needed, thanks.
And just gets off the call.
It was like that was what thatwhole call was about, like
(10:10):
seeing it, and one of the thingsthat is very easy to do and I
don't say easy, but I saythere's been practice.
I've coached a lot of people,but one of my first mentors and
coaches who coached me throughaddiction said it's very easy to
be a coach if you're authenticto who you are.
And I said what do you mean?
He goes.
You never have to worry aboutclients because you only coach
(10:31):
what you've been through.
Yeah sure, and so you onlyattract.
And so when people come to meand they're like, hey, I think I
might get a divorce, I'm likeokay, I've been through that.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
Been there, cool yeah .
Addiction yeah, we're going totalk about that, yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
Yeah, and so I think a lot of people what they do
when they, even in business orin coaching, I think they
stretch for things theyshouldn't be talking about,
right, I think?
they do things they shouldn't bedoing.
And it's like you know and I'mjust as guilty like you're
taking on in the HVAC plumbingbusiness, we oh, that's a big
contract, we should do that.
And then you get like sixmonths in and you're like, yeah,
(11:11):
we shouldn't do that.
That's a client that weshouldn't work for because that
doesn't match for what we wantto do.
And I don't think people havetaken enough time to sit down
and go okay, now, what do Ireally want?
Because at this I'm sure you'reat this point in your career
too people ask me all the timewhat do you want?
And I said I just want peace.
I don't like drama.
I don't do drama.
My life is really dramatic.
Do you know how much work it isto get sober?
(11:33):
It's very dramatic.
You leave a 13-year marriage,you get laid off, there's a lot
of mess.
I'm engaged now and she'samazing.
We've been together for a long,all that stuff.
I just want to work with greatclients who want to do the work.
If they don't, that's cool.
Then you're not going to workfor me.
I want to do business withpeople that want to do business,
(11:54):
that have a big vision, butit's this frictionless kind of
thing, I don't think people.
This is what I say to businessowners all the time.
When was the last time that youexperienced your business?
Speaker 2 (12:06):
That's an interesting question.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
Like when were you a customer?
Speaker 2 (12:09):
Right, that's a very interesting question.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
Yeah, because you're sitting up here in your room and
you're saying oh, thesespreadsheets, and no, no, no.
When were you a customer, lastfor your business?
Speaker 2 (12:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
Okay, let me and I'm just guys, if you don't know, I
own HVAC plumbing company that'snot here, yeah stress that
they're three states away, andso when they call us, do they
feel like they're heard?
Do they feel Can they trust Jimgoing over and taking care of
(12:53):
his old parents and not takingadvantage of them?
There's so much there, and ifyou haven't lived on the front
lines of your business in a longtime, then you don't even know
how that feels when you'recreating that Right.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
Well, you're creating that right, right?
Well, you're talking about theimportance of connecting, and
it's you know, connecting toyour clients, no matter what
you're doing, and connectingwith other people, and you had
mentioned this, you know, it'sall about living life from the
heart, right?
And that's what's going to makeyou a good coach is just to
follow your heart, and I know Ipersonally am like definitely
(13:26):
working on that.
One of my hugest intentions ofthe year is connecting to my
heart and really following myheart as the guide to get me
just where I want to go, andeven not necessarily knowing
where I want to go, but if I'mfollowing my heart, then that
will unfold.
And don't necessarily worry somuch about the end game of that.
Just focus on the journey.
And if you connect with yourheart and in business I find,
(13:48):
especially the older I get, I'mlike I don't have any tolerance
for people who are rude and meanand like hello.
we're all just human beingstrying to live life and it
doesn't have to be as hard assome people are trying to make
it.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
So what's interesting right is your job, and what you
do is 99% harder than what wedo.
Okay, and hear me out.
What I do is sell somethingthat you can't see.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
You can only feel.
So I could say hey, we're goingto sell you this 9.7,.
You know Roto-Rooter andthey're like cool, does it turn
on?
When it's cold, does it turn onwhen it's hot.
Cool, sure, awesome, we don'tcare.
I tell my sales guy all thetime I said if you start, if you
don't stop talking about loadcount to the 80 year old
customers, they don't know whatyou're looking for.
(14:39):
Done yeah, what you're doing.
Oh man, there is like avisceral pain every day when
they wake up and they got to seethat thing and they're like I
told her I wanted this thing andthere's so much different, you
know.
And so I have a theory.
Right, here's my thing I cameup with.
(15:01):
The farther you get away fromthe customer, the front end
customer, the easier your lifecan be and the more money you
can make.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
Well, of course.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
Well, hear me out.
I buy for my vendor.
We have a big job.
I need $150,000 worth of copperfor the job.
He's not getting a review fromme.
I'm calling him and going hey,bob, we need $150,000.
Cool.
I'm calling them and going, hey, bob, we need $150,000.
Cool, sounds good.
And then I gotta hope that myguys wore booties.
They smiled they said thank you,they didn't leave crap around,
(15:32):
and then I gotta wait for thisreview, like I gotta do all
those things right, and we'remaybe gonna make a couple grand
off of it, like you know, and sopeople don't understand.
You know, one of my favoritelines of all time that I came up
with is the better you get atcooking, the farther you get
away from the kitchen.
Yeah, of course Like the thingthat you love.
The farther you get up in yourcareer, you don't get to do it
(15:52):
anymore.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
Yeah, but I also find that there are parts of me that
don't like that, because thereason why I got into it in the
first place doesn't existanymore.
And once you are managingpeople, and at a higher level.
It's just such a differentexperience and you get back
something different from it.
And to me, I found what you getback isn't quite as fulfilling
(16:17):
and satisfying as what got youinto it in the first place.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
It's the weirdest thing in the world.
Life is so ridiculous.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
Life is a wild ride, as you told me.
Life is a wild ride.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
Me and my business partners have been wanting to
buy a business for a long time.
I cut my teeth in real estatefor seven years, Got over real
estate because lenders it's awhole thing but started buying
businesses and ended up money inreal estate, Flipped the model,
whatever.
So we do this and we scale from16 employees to 54 employees In
16 months.
We rebuilt the business, thebusiness triple revenue last
(16:49):
year, all these things.
I've got managers in place ineach division.
They're killing it.
My sales guys are breakingrecords.
It's all good.
Him and I are bored out of ourminds.
We go our whole life, we wantedthis thing and now we don't
know what to do with ourselves.
Now that's not what's happeningright now, Because I cover like
nine different hats in thebusiness and I'm overseeing a
(17:11):
big project right now.
But there are times where theteam well, most of the time the
team doesn't need us and you'relike, wait, that's the thing
that you wanted.
You're like, wait, that's thething that you wanted.
You're like, wait, now we'regoing to have to go start some
side hustle business just tokeep ourselves occupied.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
To keep the interest peaked.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
There's only so much golf you could play, and for me,
I'll do a podcast, I'll docoaching.
I've got three other businessesand I still feel like I'm not
doing anything.
And I'm writing a book and allthese things.
Right, you're doing all thesethings and you're like, ah, like
I'm still not doing anything.
But when I know I am, I calledmy dad the other day and like
after like five minutes he goeshey, look, I'm already exhausted
(17:48):
Everything that you're doing.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
So like I get that all the time.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
You're busy, right, you know, but like we're just,
we just love it, like I justlove it, like I love talking
business.
It's so crazy to me.
True story Met a guy at aconference.
He bought a 130-year-oldflagpole company.
They've supplied the flagpoleto the White House.
Cool, he owns that business.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
Very cool, it's just so ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
It's like what?
I just find it fun.
And so when people are likedon't you get tired of it?
Like you worked all day andthen you got to go to a
networking event, and I'm likeno, it's like really cool, but
like it's been a calculatedsituation to remove the I don't
want to's off my calendar, Likeit took years of just saying, no
(18:36):
, I'm not going to do thatanymore.
And like the big aha for me waslike I don't like having
anything on Fridays.
I don't like it.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
And.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
I don't like it after two o'clock on Friday,
especially, okay.
Yeah, so I get up every morningat 4 am, sometimes earlier,
right, wow, I used to coach 13to 15 clients in a day.
I would just coach all day.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
Oh, my goodness.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
Because I would segment out my day.
So I do a podcast a day, I docoaching, blah, blah blah.
Some would bleed into the nextday.
But I don't like Fridaysbecause I like to keep it open,
I catch up with people or I dothis thing, or so on and so on.
So I said to myself, oh, you'llget there in a couple of years,
you can do that.
And then something happenedwhere something fell through
that I had to do on Fridays andI was like what if I just like,
(19:22):
what if I just like, did it now,do it now.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
Yeah, why not?
Speaker 1 (19:25):
And I was like no, no , no.
Like I'm telling myself likeyou can't do that.
And I was like, but like whatif I did?
Like who's going to be upset?
And I was like, oh, I'm justgoing to, I'm just going to do
that.
I want to go really hard.
Monday, tuesday, wednesday likehard, like work all day,
(19:47):
thursday, start ratcheting itdown, and then Friday ratchet it
down a bunch, and then whathappens is I'm better equipped
to go into the weekend.
Yeah sure my buddy jokes aboutthis all the time.
He does big stuff for ChaseBank, like big, big loans, and
he goes look, I'm not sayingthat I dislike COVID, but he was
like COVID was a little roughfor me because I'm in my office
(20:09):
upstairs I've got a two-year-oldand a five-year-old.
I'm yelling at my analyst inPrague about a $500 million loan
because he's not doing his joband I walk out of work and I got
a two-year-old around my ankles.
He was like I haven't had thefive seconds to switch from One
to the X.
Hey, do your job.
(20:30):
Yeah, the stress to be a dad.
And so a lot of people haveforgot because they haven't
taken their wind down time.
Because we're now this newworld where everything is 24-7.
Social media, crypto,everything.
Somebody posted the other dayon Twitter.
I thought it was really great.
They said crypto is like ademon.
It's not in the sense of like.
(20:51):
It doesn't stop, he goes.
You're just like.
I just want a night off where.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
I can just chill.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
And so we've created this thing where nobody does the
thing they enjoy anymore,because they feel like they
always have to be doing it.
So when I meet a client, mostof the time they're killing it
in business.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
But their personal life is like shambles.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
And you're like hey, what is something that you
really love doing?
Oh man, I love golfing.
When's the last time you didthat?
Three and a half years ago,okay.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
Oh great.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
So here's a circle.
You're the circle.
Here's all the ways you makemoney.
You're really good at that, butyou don't pay any attention to
the personal side, and so youwonder why you're burnt out
tired.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
Yeah, of course you need some balance and I feel you
might see this with yourclients.
Do you feel like your clientscome to you because they almost
need permission from someoneelse to tell them that it's okay
to make themselves a priorityin their lives, especially
successful business people?
Speaker 1 (21:54):
Yes, I wish you would tell me that right now that's
something I'm working on.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
It is okay.
It is okay to make yourself apriority.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
My fiance.
This is the like.
It sounds so trite and sosimple to say like.
She's like.
You know, like doing things foryourself is like.
That means that you loveyourself, and I'm like no no, I
just do for, like others, and Ijust do, you know, a shirt off
my back and whatever you needand jump on the phone and you
like?
No, no, no, that's not how itworks.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
Yeah, you can't be continually giving.
You got to give to you too.
You have to fit you into thatgiving bucket.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
They need permission to be who they've always meant
to be.
That's what they need, Right?
They need permission to putdown the mask, Say you know what
?
I don't think I want to do thatanymore, Right?
And we're wearing all thesehats and they're not even our
hats.
And I had a good friend of minewho coaches men for a living.
He said the problem is is thateverybody's changing the vehicle
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, but the driver didn't change.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
Very interesting analogy yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
They're all like getting in a different, like I'm
in a Hummer, sometimes I'm in aCorvette, but the driver didn't
change.
But we're all hoping that whenwe find the right vehicle,
everything's going to make sense.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
Yeah, but it doesn't work that way.
It's just still the same.
You so are.
Most of the people who come toyou for coaching are, most of
them, pretty successful in thebusiness realm, because you can
relate to their level of success.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
Yeah, I mean most of them are.
There's two things that I foundit's the craziest thing.
I have like two groups.
Well, the wildest thing is I'vebeen coaching a lot of women
lately, which has never happenedbefore, so that's been super
interesting.
Yeah, I think they like thegood kick in the butt.
(23:40):
I think they like the tough.
I normally have two sets ofclients.
One is a young guy who's 23 or27.
He makes good money but he'ssoulless.
It's just like I can't keepdoing this Right, so we'll start
the business or we'll dosomething different or something
like that, or I coach the 35and up who have made some money
looking for a change.
The joke with me is that whenyou coach with me, a couple
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things are going to happen.
One you might move to Europe ortravel there for about two
months.
You might get divorced.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
You might get divorced, you might get married
and you might leave your job.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
I believe that we get stuck in these patterns, and so
my first couple of weeks withthem is just to shake it up a
little bit, do something alittle different.
I like to not have them see mecoming.
I'm saying it on purpose, soyou can be offended.
I'm saying it on purpose.
40-year-old plus men I'm sayingit.
(24:38):
You think that you're so sneaky, you think that you have it all
figured out.
You are so stuck in yourpatterns and they are so obvious
.
It's not even funny.
They're sitting on their highhorse and they're saying, when I
get to this revenue number,it's going to be okay then.
Speaker 2 (24:59):
The kiss of death.
It will be okay when.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
But here's what's crazy, right?
This is what I ask them to do.
I want you to go in front ofyour family and I want you to
ask your 3 or 4 year old or 6year old when you walk through
the door.
Does your 6 year old ask youwhat's in the bank account?
Yeah, and you say that you'redoing it for them.
Did they ask you to do thesethings?
And so when you admit that thissuccess that you need is for
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yourself, then we can startRight.
Because oh no, it's for them, no, no, no, it's for you and
that's okay.
Yeah, I want a successfulcompany and a big company
because I want jobs.
I want to give the money away.
I want to create a ranch wherewe heal addiction and chronic
pain, and I want to hostretreats there.
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Those are the things that Iwant.
So in order to do that, I needa really big company Some days,
I think that I'd rather justmove to Nepal and disappear.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
But hey, it's each to their own.
Speaker 1 (25:55):
So you're giving them the permission to seek
something different.
You're asking them to becomemore than they are, which is
very hard, and then you'regiving them the cover to do it.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
That's it.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
Which is really powerful.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
Yeah, yeah, Because most people haven't even taken
the time to decide whether ornot they want, because a lot of
people are comfortable, right,they're making good money.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
Right.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
Their marriage is okay, they're in decent shape.
You know it's nothing likecrazy, like the biggest question
in life.
Right, I think I could readevery book in the world and not
understand it.
Why does it take us hitting abrick wall, doing 179 to?
Speaker 2 (26:33):
change it does.
Right Right, because most ofthe time it's good enough and
people feel like, oh, Ishouldn't be striving for more
or striving for different,because how is this not good
enough?
Speaker 1 (26:45):
I'm obsessed with this concept of good to great.
I've read all the Jim Collinsbooks Like I've left so many
things that were good to like,pursue something that I think is
better for me, and like thatin-between time for it to happen
is like the scariest thing inthe entire world.
Of course this is so stupid.
Why am I?
Speaker 2 (27:04):
doing this, I got this whole thing over here.
And you're just like ah, whatam I?
Speaker 1 (27:08):
No, and then you're like oh okay, this is why I did
it.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
Yeah, because you have to have a little faith and
you got to trust and trust inyourself, which sometimes that's
a lot of times where peoplealso go to a coach because they
don't trust in themselves and sothey need help to figure out
how to do that.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
My small business that we bought and that's you
think I'm interesting.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
IRS FBI.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
You think I'm interesting has reintroduced me
to what faith is Interesting, inwhat way?
And panic attacks?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, in what way.
How do you define faith now?
I define faith as having anability to believe that you are
destined to get through.
Speaker 2 (27:50):
Yeah, of course.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
And I believe that I thought I could do it all with
my own force.
Like Surrender Experiment islike the book for me, like I hit
it at the right, perfect time,yep, and that's what I'm trying
to do.
Yeah, when you're upgradingyour life and you're stepping
into more of a coach, investor,mentor role in your business.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:12):
Do you know how frustrating it is to me that I
have to rely on, like mylivelihood, on a bunch of other
people?
It's like you know, like I lovecontrol and you're just like
you're like.
Jesus, take the wheel.
You're like we just put a newGM in and I'm like have at it
man, like you know, but he caresso much Like I'm not worried
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about it.
Like it doesn't mean that hehas everything that he needs to
be successful, because he'lllearn that, but he cares.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
That's all that matters.
That.
But he cares, that's all thatmatters, which is important.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
Okay, so I need to let you do the thing.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
And that's what we my .
Speaker 1 (28:46):
CEO talk about all the time.
It's very hard to know that wecould fix a problem in five
seconds and we have to just letit play out.
Yeah, it's the hardest thing inthe world.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
But it's so good for your personal growth to let it
go.
Speaker 1 (28:59):
So I have a good friend who's built in a very
successful company and they wentfrom like 2 million to like 26
million in like four yearsbuying companies.
He said if you give youremployees the answer, it means
that you don't care about themgrowing.
And he goes or you're lazy.
And when he told me that I waslike I'm done, it was on my
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podcast.
I was like, okay, cut that out.
I'm just going to listen tothat every morning because it
was the truth.
I mean it's the truth.
You no longer possess theskills to care about your
employees anymore.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
If that's the case, Sure Because then you might as
well just do their job too, yeah, and then you might as well
have a single business which isgreat, I mean, that's what you
want.
Speaker 1 (29:42):
Yeah, of course, but when you're taking on people,
you're taking on what's going onin their life.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
You're taking on the responsibility of shepherding
them.
I view and I say this it's nota hyperbole it is my job to
protect my employees and stewardthe business.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
That's it.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
And I take that very seriously.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
Do people come to you for coaching about how to do
that with their businesses?
Speaker 1 (30:05):
How to be better leaders.
I don't my personal opinion.
I think it's something that'scatching on.
I think it's caught on, but Ithink it's catching on more and
more.
I think a lot of people areaccidental leaders.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
Yeah right.
Speaker 1 (30:18):
Before we bought the business, I knew this was going
to be a thing.
I read every John Maxwell book.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
Every one of them.
Speaker 1 (30:23):
I spent like six months on leadership, what it
was for me, what I defined it as, what I hated in a leader.
That was really rude to me.
You have to understand I'm alsoin a trade that for the better
part of the last 75 years theythought that yelling was how you
got stuff done.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
Of course Right.
Of course, yes, right.
Speaker 1 (30:41):
So it's like we're in this new thing where they don't
trust me because they think I'mtoo nice.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (30:48):
But I'm kind of like a little edgy too, like we're
like I'll cross them One time.
I like long story.
This guy like overstepped andwas like verbally abusing an
employee and I just went crazy.
I was like get out, don't youever speak to anybody like that
I mean I was like don't you everintimidate somebody again, that
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is a young kid.
I mean I just went off a deephit and I walked in my CEO's
office and he's like, hey, bro,that was a little much.
And I was like, no, they needto know that I can go there,
because it's unacceptable.
You will not treat people likethat, and that was the only time
I ever had to do that.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
And it's like you're still trying to.
You're growing up in front ofthem.
Speaker 2 (31:35):
This is a true story.
Speaker 1 (31:37):
So when I got introduced.
So I'm going to buy the company, we're under LOI, I'm there to
visit, to work out the hammer.
So I'm in Texas at the time.
I'm flying back and forth toget this deal done.
I'm there just to meet theseller, just meet the seller and
work out the last details andthen I'm going to go home.
That's all that was saying.
I'm in his home.
It's Tuesday morning.
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He says no, no, no, let's gomeet the team.
No, no, no, whoa, whoa, whoa,no, no, no.
I want to introduce you.
I want to move this along.
I'm like no, no, no, no, no, no, I don't want.
No, no, no, I'm not ready.
I don't know what to say.
No, no, no, we're going to getin, we pop in, we go.
So I got 18.
I'm me and I'm 18 people andI'm like oh my God what am I
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going to say?
And he's like so this is the newguy that's going to buy you
blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
And I was like so I'm divorced,I'm a former alcoholic and I
used to be a drug addict.
Nice to meet you.
Yeah, it's good, it makes youreal.
And afterwards four of themcame up to me like in recovery
(32:42):
Awesome, us too.
And like it was like you know,and I was just like that's what
I'm going to go with and so, andso it was great, because it was
like okay, cool, like I'm notabove you, I'm not below you,
Like I'm just human, the same,you know real.
Speaker 2 (32:50):
Yeah, you're just a person.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
And so one of my Naval has an amazing quote.
He said the only way to escapecompetition is to be
authentically you.
Which is so important andthat's one of your roles as a
coach is to help people figureout who they authentically are
right, and most don't even know,because they've taken on the
label of their parents or theirfriends or what somebody told
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them one time when they were sixyears old.
Speaker 2 (33:13):
Sure, of course, and they've built a life around that
label.
Speaker 1 (33:18):
Yeah, and it's got to be exhausting.
You know juggling the plates.
It is To make everybody happy.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
It is Now.
Let me ask you a question.
Most coaches I know have acoach.
Do you have a coach?
Speaker 1 (33:29):
I have been doing a different thing lately.
Speaker 2 (33:32):
Yeah, what have you been doing?
Speaker 1 (33:34):
I don't have business coaches.
Speaker 2 (33:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:36):
So I have what I consider like a mastermind, is
like my business owners, who areall successful in different
things, so we talk all the time.
I've been going the spiritualwomen's route lately.
Speaker 2 (33:48):
The spiritual women's route.
Okay, that needs a lot ofdefinition.
What is that?
Speaker 1 (33:54):
I need work on my feminine.
Speaker 2 (33:56):
Okay, yep.
Speaker 1 (33:57):
So my feminine side is very closed off.
I'm not speaking to my motherright now.
She's not speaking to my motherright now.
She's not speaking to me.
Me and my dad didn't speak for20 years.
So we're back and we talkweekly.
So for me, I blacked out mostof my childhood and so my fiance
is extremely spiritual andfaith based and all this stuff.
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So for me, I consume a lot ofbooks around business.
I consume around a pocket.
I don't really want to do thatanymore.
Speaker 2 (34:27):
I am gearing up to be the best father I can be when
we eventually have kids.
Speaker 1 (34:29):
Love it, so for me that's going to take a lot of
things.
So these like it's just likehappened that way.
It's not like I was seeking outlike a woman's coach.
Yeah, but like I've talked tolike medians, yeah.
Like, you know all thedifferent, you know modalities,
right.
Speaker 2 (34:46):
Oh, I do it all.
Intuitives, tarot card readers,yeah, human design, all of it.
Speaker 1 (34:52):
And I'm about to say something that's really going to
get some people upset.
But I don't really care,Because you can lie on whatever
what fence you want with this,but lie on ever what fence you
want with this.
But cocaine and meth were myproblems.
Speaker 2 (35:07):
That was my main problems and alcohol, but when I
got divorced mushrooms saved mylife.
Speaker 1 (35:10):
Doing that with a shaman and going through the
pain of that divorce andrebuilding my life.
That was my big aha moment andthat started me on this path.
The spirituality side is stillnew to me.
I have my own thoughts aboutthe church and all that stuff
like that from a childhood basis.
So there's so much there thatI'm unpacking and figuring out.
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So it's just been somethingI've explored.
I'm about to start working withthe medical intuitive on my
health.
So there's so much there thatI'm this is all new to me.
It's all very interesting, soI'm just trying to be open to
all of it.
I love putting myself in veryawkward situations but I'm very
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stubborn out the gate.
But once I settle into it, I'mgood.
But I would say and I got noproblem because I'm very open
and honest I me.
Like me is the hardest thingthat exists, like my personal
relationships, like I've been onmy own since I was like 17.
My family's never really wasaround.
(36:18):
My friends were my family, butthey weren't really family.
And so for me it's like I wantto make sure and this is the
hardest thing for me, I want tomake sure that my anger, my
anxiety, like all those thingsare, like you know, as cleaned
up and washed away as I can,because we my, my fiance, crazy
childhood as well to foster care, drug addiction, all in her
(36:39):
family, she's, she's, she's,none of that stuff for her, but
we just, we're just so adamantabout being great parents, um,
and so to do the work, is isneeded and it's, and it sucks
too at the same time because,like you're finding out stuff
about like three years old.
Speaker 2 (36:54):
Yeah, yeah, which is tough.
Speaker 1 (36:56):
This is big stuff, it's not small stuff, and four
or six and stuff that you'relike.
Speaker 2 (37:01):
Journey work is tough , especially mushroom journey
work.
Yeah, you've completely blackedout True story.
Speaker 1 (37:06):
I don't remember anything prior to 17 years old
Nothing, it's all just.
Speaker 2 (37:11):
And a lot of people who have trauma don't.
Speaker 1 (37:13):
So what's happened to me is I'm obsessed with Don
Miguel Ruiz.
So the.
Four Agreements.
Speaker 2 (37:20):
Yeah, great book.
Speaker 1 (37:22):
My favorite book, one of my favorite books of all
time, is the Five Levels ofAttachment.
Speaker 2 (37:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (37:26):
All right, and so basically what I realized about
three months ago on a walk whenI was down in Pittsburgh is that
everything I believe about mychildhood is fake Really.
Everything.
Speaker 2 (37:36):
What happened that made you realize that?
Because that's a big one.
Speaker 1 (37:40):
I realized that maybe my parents weren't as happy as
I thought they were.
Maybe it wasn't as joyous as Ithought they were.
Speaker 2 (37:48):
Like all these things .
Speaker 1 (37:49):
You start peeling things and you're like oh.
And also and I wasn't as bad asof a kid as everybody made me
out to be- and.
I didn't like those things, andso I was just like wait, is it
all BS?
Oh, yeah, I think it's all BSOkay well, wait, hold on hold on
, hold on.
Now I don't have anything tohang my hat on.
Now I have to rebuild my entireexistence of what I believe in.
Okay, this is going to take awhile, like you're, just like
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you know you're, you're startingto peel back the onions and
you're, and you're saying toyourself, like okay, so if
that's the case, what do Ibelieve, what don't I believe?
Okay, does it does any of thatmatter?
And maybe I just go from hereLike that.
Speaker 2 (38:25):
I don't have the answer.
Speaker 1 (38:27):
It's really weird for me.
I'm quick on my feet when Italk, but like I'll hear
something let's say I hear somebad news or something, or find
out something it won't hit mefor like two months later.
Interesting Like some randomthing you're walking or like
it's just like boom.
You're in a conversation Likeit's just like boom.
My mind takes a long time tolike process it, but like, once
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it's in, it's in.
There are some things that I'mgoing to have to address with my
parents that I don't reallywant to Of course.
You know, and there'sconversations that are going to
have to be had, where in thepast, I've been like you know
what.
Let's just keep it civil, butmy fiance is like a crusader of
truth and that is not going totranspire.
Speaker 2 (39:07):
Good for her.
Speaker 1 (39:09):
So I am comfortable saying that I'm excited to see
what this looks like 10 yearsfrom now, because it's weirdly
weird when you feel like yourlife just started at 36.
Yes, and then really startedagain at 42.
You feel like you were figuringit out, getting the right
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people around you, and only inthe last I just turned 42 last
month I feel like it's finallylike okay, I've got the right
people around you.
And only in the last I justturned 42 last month I feel like
it's finally like okay, I'vegot the right people, got the
right vehicle for the businessgot the right support.
It's like, okay, let's go dowork, and so it's very odd, when
you're a doer your whole lifeto become a surrenderer.
It's very hard.
I don't like it, but I'membracing it.
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You're uncomfortable, butthat's where growth happens.
Speaker 2 (39:55):
Growth always happens in the uncomfortable.
So you know, you know that as acoach.
But I commend you for doing thework and for being so honest
and vulnerable about the work,because it will be one of the
things that will make you suchan exceptional coach for other
people, because you've done thatinner work.
You know, not only have youovercome addiction and all these
other things, but you've donethat inner work.
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Not only have you overcomeaddiction and all these other
things, but you've done theinner work.
You're working on the innerwork, and so it'll give you a
lot of empathy for other peopleand also help motivate them a
little bit to be like look, I'mdoing it.
Don't give me this BS about whyyou can't.
You can.
If you want to, you can.
Speaker 1 (40:33):
That's what we told.
We got a manager who's got towork on some things and, like
our CEO and myself were like,hey, we did this, like we
already did this, like we'regoing to tell you it's going to
suck, but you're going to bebetter for it if you embrace it.
You're going to be a better dad.
You're going to be a betteremployee.
You're going to be a betterfriend.
Like all these employee, You'regoing to be a better friend.
(40:54):
All these things it's cool.
It's cool man, yeah.
And so there's some comfortthere to go like okay, they've
been through it.
Speaker 2 (41:03):
They have Right, exactly which is super helpful,
right?
So let's talk about yourpodcast for a second.
Construct your Life what madeyou decide you wanted to become
a podcaster and why that subject?
Speaker 1 (41:09):
So I was at a real estate conference called Best
Ever in Breckenridge, colorado.
There was 700 people there,there was a conference inside,
and then there was a circlearound the conference room where
there was booths set up andpeople were networking.
So this was a month beforeCOVID.
I'm sitting there and I'mlooking at everybody that people
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are talking to, and there'slike a line of people waiting to
talk to people, and I realizedin that moment that every single
person they wanted to talk tohad a podcast Interesting, and
so I had been thinking about itfor a while.
And so I was talking to thisguy I just met and he's like hey
, you should start a podcast.
He's like I'm just telling youto start a podcast.
So, while I was at theconference, I'm texting my
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business partner at the time andwe're throwing around names,
and then I'm texting my old bassplayer who runs a podcast
studio when I used to work inthe music business.
I was like, hey, I'm going tostart this podcast, I'll be home
next week, we're going to startrecording.
I was just like boom.
So we came up with a name, wehad the logo before I left, and
(42:17):
then when I got back I got laidoff.
So what I was doing is I justused it.
This is a true story.
I was doing seven to nineinterviews a day, four days a
week.
Speaker 2 (42:24):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (42:25):
For the first 11 months.
Speaker 2 (42:26):
That's amazing.
That's so much content.
Speaker 1 (42:29):
I was talking to athletes.
I was talking to like.
I was like really trying tofigure out my life.
I was traveling and I had mypodcast studio and I was just
traveling around the West Coastand I just got separated, so I
was hanging out.
I met my fiance at the time.
We started talking mid-summer.
But, I was just interviewingpeople and it was an exploration
(42:52):
of like, okay, what are yougoing to do next?
And so I got done and I'd doneall these podcasts the first
year, and so one of the thingsthat was really important to me
was I wanted to do it for theright reasons.
So I told my podcast.
I said look, no matter what Ido, no matter what I bribe you
with, don't let me see how manypeople downloaded it, please.
I'm begging.
Speaker 2 (43:11):
you Don't do it.
Speaker 1 (43:22):
I'm losing weight.
Right now I'm not in a mentalstate where I can handle it
because I'll give up.
So for like two, I don't thinkI saw it until year three, wow.
So one day I asked him, likereal hard, I was like dude, you
need to tell me.
And he's like, no, you told menot to.
And so he said, look, all I cantell you is that every month is
going up and to the right and Iwas like okay, cool, and so
there's a concept in AtomicHabits.
It's called position thinkingversus trajectory thinking, and
it's like is the thing thatyou're doing, are you always
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moving towards it or are yousitting neutral?
I just started doing thepodcast, and that's what we've
been doing ever since, and oneof the things that I was very
cognizant about is I'm a personwho likes to talk about a lot of
different stuff, and so Iwanted to make sure that I
didn't niche it down so muchthat I would run out of topics
to talk about.
So I think honestly, if I'mbeing honest, we kind of
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stumbled on something that worksand it's been interesting.
First couple of years it wasall real estate in life.
Now it's been like business inlife.
So I've kind of grown with it.
Speaker 2 (44:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (44:17):
And I haven't asked my audience to come with me, but
they've just watched me grow upand one of the greatest
compliments I ever got was mybuddy, who's listened to every
episode one of my best friends.
He's like I'm not going to lieto you.
He's like you were a verycrappy interviewer at the
beginning.
He's like you talk too much andyou wouldn't listen and you ask
the wrong questions, he's likebut you're absolutely amazing
(44:39):
now.
Good and this is like episode200, 300.
And so it's cool to them see.
But then what I realized is it'skind of like a documentation of
your life.
Speaker 2 (44:50):
It's like a journey, right.
Speaker 1 (44:51):
Yeah, and you give that journey to other people and
it's so important becausesometimes we can get jaded
because there is so much podcastout there.
But I had a good friend, one ofmy best friends.
He said I sent it to mygrandmother.
He is a very successful guy whostarted from nothing in
Venezuela and he goes.
My grandmother thinks I'mfamous, he goes and if something
ever happens to me, my kidshave a documentation of the
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story of my life, Love it.
And that's when I sat back andgo.
Okay, this is a little moreimportant than just flicking
record.
Yeah, and so it's just been.
It's been something that'shonestly it's created.
Everything that you see todayis created because of it.
Speaker 2 (45:29):
The business partnerships, the connections,
the opportunities all that hashappened because of the podcast.
So powerful so you do a Fridayrant.
Let's talk about that for aminute.
Speaker 1 (45:39):
So it was very spicy in the beginning.
I was going through some stuff.
Even people would be like Ithink you should take that down.
I'm like, no, I'm not taking itdown.
But here's something funny andI haven't shared this with
anybody because it's but maybeif I say it out loud, I'll have
to do it.
So the Friday rants are likethree to four minutes of like
(45:59):
there's no script, there's nonothing.
I'm just riffing and talkingabout something and it goes
where it goes.
So we have taken all those like52 of them and we're turning it
into a book.
Speaker 2 (46:11):
I was just going to say it's a perfect book.
Speaker 1 (46:16):
It's like life lessons attached to the video,
so on and so on.
Honestly, it's everybody'sfavorite.
Like I get texts all the time.
They're like man, you did thattoday.
Like it's everybody's favoriteand it's just something that I'm
really committed to is likethat.
One will just never change.
Speaker 2 (46:30):
Because you just authentically talk about
whatever you decide you're goingto talk about, talk about
whatever you decide you're goingto talk about and you just are
very real and share youropinions, share your thoughts,
share your viewpoint.
You're just really honest aboutit and vulnerable about it,
which I think I feel like peoplewant that more and more.
Speaker 1 (46:50):
I said something during one that's always stuck
with me and you say something inconsciousness and you don't
even know it sometimes.
I said you want to knowsomething that's never
disappointed me ever A sunrise.
I love that.
Speaker 2 (47:04):
It was a comment about life and how we don't
focus on the right things LikeI've never been disappointed by
a sunset or sunrise Never.
Speaker 1 (47:11):
I'm with you.
People ask.
They'll ask all the time.
They'll say, oh, you know, butthey'll like text me something.
I'm like, oh damn, who saidthat?
And they're like you said thatand I'm like I said that.
You know, you just kind of like,you just kind of let the mind
go, you know, and I don't reallyhave an agenda.
So it's been something that Ireally enjoy.
I kind of hit on it and kind ofdidn't stop it.
(47:33):
And I think that's key in theconsistency department when it
comes to podcast is like youjust have to stick to something.
Speaker 2 (47:39):
Yeah, and be doing it for the right reasons.
You're doing it because youwanted to do it, and I always
say to people I feel like beinga podcaster is a gift, and it's
a gift to get to be introducedto so many incredible people and
to share their stories on ourplatform, and I think that's a
gift that we can't take forgranted and it's a privilege to
be able to do it.
And if you're open to the peoplethat you meet and receptive to
(48:01):
what they have to say and whatthey have to share, and your
mission is really to just sharemore of that with a broader
audience, like what greater gift.
Speaker 1 (48:09):
Yeah, no, 100%, 100%.
Speaker 2 (48:11):
Oh, I love it.
All right, we've taken up somuch of your time.
You've mentioned a whole bunchof books, which I will put all
of those actually, in the shownotes, because I always ask
people to recommend a book thatthey've read that's impacted
their lives, professionally andpersonally.
Is there anything elsebook-wise or any takeaway that I
haven't asked you that you wantto make sure you get in?
Speaker 1 (48:30):
before we have to say goodbye.
So it's.
I bought the book 65, 70 timesfor people.
Yeah, I'll just like meetrandom people and buy the book
for them because it changed mylife.
There are many books thatchanged my life, but this one is
kind of like the foundation ofeverything, and so what it's
called?
It's called what you Say whenyou Talk To Yourself, and so his
name is Shad Hemsley.
He's the original like, speakperson right and he tells a
(48:53):
story.
It's basically saying that yoursubconscious runs 90% of your
mind why do we do the things wedo?
Their habits or patterns, howto rework and how to rewire your
mind, so on and so on.
So this woman is in a marriagethat is kind of loveless and her
husband doesn't want to doanything.
All he does is watch footballall day.
And so she decides she wants togo to this flyer.
It's like a Jim Rohn thing.
(49:14):
So, shad, go to this thing.
He's like why are you going tothat?
It's just a waste of money.
Blah, blah, blah.
So she goes.
She gets the self.
So he's the original developerof the self-talk books or tapes.
So she turns it on.
He's watching football.
She turns it on in the kitchenand he says turn that crap off,
(49:50):
turn that crap off.
Speaker 2 (49:51):
I don't want to hear that.
And he goes, you know what?
Just turn it down.
Speaker 1 (49:52):
So she listens to the tape for like 10 days in a row
and every day he's telling herto turn it anything, and what
the basic premise was is like helistened to the things without
listening to the things andreprogrammed like how he viewed
the world, and so that book isthe first book that I recommend
to everybody to start.
Speaker 2 (50:07):
That is powerful.
Oh, I'm going to have to getthat.
I've tried to read every bookthat my podcast guests recommend
, so I look forward to gettingthat one.
Thank you so much.
Guest recommend, so I lookforward to getting that one.
Thank you so much.
Well, austin, this has been atrue pleasure.
You are just an amazing,inspiring human.
You are an incredible businessperson, a great coach, and I
love the work that you share,that you're going to be doing on
yourself to become the mostincredible father.
(50:29):
So congratulations to you andthank you so much for your time.
I will put in the show noteslinks so everybody can follow
you.
They can follow your podcast,they can find your website, they
can learn more about coachingwith you.
I will put all of that into theshow notes.
So thank you so much for yourtime Awesome.
Speaker 1 (50:42):
Thank you for the opportunity.
Speaker 2 (50:43):
Thank you, have a great day.
We'll talk soon.
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One of the things that is very easy to do and I
don't say easy, but I saythere's been practice.
I've coached a lot of people,but one of my first mentors and
coaches, who coached me throughaddiction, said it's very easy
to be a coach if you'reauthentic to who you are.
And I said what do you mean?
He goes.
You never have to worry aboutclients because you only coach
what you've been through.
Yeah, sure, and so you onlyattract.
(00:22):
And so when people come to meand they're like, hey, you know,
I think I'm not getting adivorce, I'm like okay, I've
been through that.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Cool yeah, addiction yeah.
Welcome to the House of Jermarpodcast, where wellness starts
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We are honored to have you joinus on our mission to empower 1
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I am your host, jean Collins,and I invite you to become
inspired by this week's guest.
And I invite you to becomeinspired by this week's guest.
Welcome to the House of Germarpodcast, where wellness starts
within.
I'm your host, jean Collins,and today we are going to talk
to a guest who has the mostfascinating background.
(01:15):
Today we have Austin Linney onthe show.
Austin is an entrepreneur, he'sa real estate investor, he runs
businesses.
He's also an incredible mindsetcoach, and that's how I got
introduced to him.
So everybody, please welcomeAustin to the show.
We're going to have a greatfunny conversation.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
Thanks for having me.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
You're welcome, we also want to.
I want to make sure I rememberto mention you also have your
own podcast, which is actuallyreally interesting.
I've listened to a bunch ofyour episodes.
Your podcast is calledConstruct your Life, which is so
interesting, and you have theseFriday rants, which is also
really cool.
I can totally relate to those.
So we're going to dig into thata little bit as well.
But I would love if you couldshare with everybody.
(01:55):
Your bio is deep and, I want tosay, in some ways, dark, but I
would love if you could sharethe highlights of your
background, of how you got to bewhere you are today, and that
is a very loaded large question,folks.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
Yeah, so it has a lot to do with methamphetamines, it
has a lot to do with living ina closet and it has a lot to do
with cocaine and alcohol.
So I don't know how that wasfor a starter, but I like to
keep it spicy in the beginning.
There you go.
You know, when I was 17 yearsold, my parents came to me and
(02:30):
they said you know, look, you'regetting in too much trouble in
school.
We don't think this is theplace for you anymore.
You don't seem to, really.
I have a photographic memory,but I just didn't care about
school.
And so they said you need to goto Beaumont or you need to go
to the military school.
And I said well, I don't knowwhere either one of those places
are, but one of them is inTexas.
(02:51):
It's where my parents grew up,which is by the border, where
all the oil is from.
And I was like okay, but I'llgo there.
So we go there.
I went from living on a countryclub with a maid in the house to
living on five acres in a 500square foot house with my mom.
So I went from 4,200 kids in myschool to 140.
(03:15):
And so it was just like at 17,.
Middle of my junior year, it'sa whole thing.
And then two months after thatmy dad drives in from Houston
and says we're getting a divorce.
My parents had never fought infront of me, I think I mean at
least I think as a kid, I don'tremember and so I proceeded to
blame myself because I was a badkid and then they didn't
(03:39):
correct me, which they laterapologized for 20 years later.
But then I proceeded to feellost and stuck and my dad got
remarried quickly and he waswith his new family and I felt
left behind.
I started working in therestaurant business and that's
when I fell in with anybody whowould hang out with me and give
(04:00):
me validation, and that's wherethe drugs and alcohol got
introduced into my life.
I was always a good kid per seand I think the problem with
drugs, especially back when thatwas going on it's a little
different now, I think.
But you just do it on theweekends when you're working.
(04:22):
It's just the restaurantbusiness Back in the day, that's
just what we did.
But the problem is is thoseweekends started turning into
Monday, tuesday, wednesdays, andthat's when the problems
started arising.
But I never miss work, so you'relike it's always this weird
world where you're messed up butyou're still getting all your
stuff done, so nobody cancomplain.
(04:43):
But they know you're not right,and so you're kind of doing
these things.
So I got to a point where oneof the low points for me was I
had stayed up for eight daysstraight on meth, but I was
taking Xanax at night to try togo to bed.
Oh my goodness, but I couldn'tgo to bed.
So I was living in this halfawake, half world.
(05:06):
And so on day seven I startedseeing rabbits, but there was no
actual rabbits.
And so what happened was I wasat work.
I don't know why I was there.
I shouldn't have been there.
I wasn't working, I was tryingto eat because I hadn't eaten
much the whole time working.
I was trying to eat because Ihadn't eaten much the whole time
(05:26):
and an ex-girlfriend had saw meand I lost some weight and she
was like hey, this ain't you.
I don't know what's going onwith you.
You look like shit and forwhatever reason, that was the
big wake up call from some, Idon't know from somebody.
So I went home that day,sobered up the next day, packed
up all my stuff and left, and Inever did hard drugs again.
(05:49):
I just quit it right then youjust quit.
I just quit.
I have this weird mind where itmight take me a long time to
get to the point because I'mvery stubborn, but when I do,
it's done.
But the problem is that I movedto Austin and I started working
in another restaurant.
The problem is is that thedrugs just led into me abusing
alcohol?
Oh good, I wasn't abusing thisanymore, but that proceeded for
(06:14):
me to be a functioning alcoholicfor almost 20 years.
Wow and so.
But the issue being is likethat was my job.
I was a server of booze and Imade drinks and I sold wine, and
so you're just kind of like hey, this is what I do, I taste
wine for a living and I sellwine, and so it's so acceptable,
especially in society.
(06:35):
Now it's getting a little morepeople are looking into it more
on the booze stuff.
But yeah, so I've been sober aswe're recording this, I've been
sober six years and two weeks.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
Congratulations.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
So, 36 years old, decided to Lost 70 plus pounds.
I got laid off from my privatethis is all during COVID I got
laid off from my private equityjob.
I got separated from a 13-yearmarriage and I started my
podcast in a 10-day stretch.
Wow.
Year marriage and I started mypodcast in a 10 day stretch Wow.
(07:08):
So it's been this kind of liketransformation and I kind of
fell into coaching.
It wasn't something I wanted todo.
It was something I wanted to do10 years from now.
But I had a guy during COVID.
He said I need someaccountability and I said, yeah,
I'm not doing that.
But thanks, man, I appreciateit and he goes well.
I already sent you the money.
But, thanks, man, I appreciateit and he goes well.
I already sent you the money inyour Venmo account, so you
better figure it out.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
No way.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
Yeah, so that's how I got my first client and that
kind of took off from there.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
Did you have any idea what you were doing in terms of
how to be a coach?
Speaker 1 (07:38):
Oh no, I'll tell you True story.
True story, this is a truestory.
I'm helping a guy.
I'm toying around with the idea, not getting paid for it.
I'm coaching people for free,toying around with it, working
through some stuff.
I get on a call with a guy fromour group, our mastermind.
We were in.
This is a true story.
I get on a call Within twominutes.
(07:59):
He's got three kids and he goes.
I want to leave my wife and I,literally I felt my heart 20
feet behind me because in thatmoment, okay, this isn't
playtime, this is real, this ispeople's lives.
You are involved in their life100%.
I've helped people throughaddiction.
I've helped dads.
(08:19):
I've helped my clients' dadsthrough addiction and get sober.
I've helped people throughdivorce and all these things.
And so in that moment I took itvery seriously.
But I always said to myself Isaid, look, as long as you do
what your heart thinks is theright, best thing, I think
you're going to be all right.
And so those first couple ofyears, man, I was just banging
around in the dark with coachingpeople, but I cared so much
(08:42):
that I've grown through thewhole thing.
And then I got some trainingfrom a group and I've been
through the levels and I workedon my own stuff and since then
we've kind of refined it.
But yeah, no, it was a this istrue.
Another true story I couldn'tget my second client to save my
life, Like I got the one and Iwas like going through this
thing.
And so a mentor at the time whothis is a true story he was
(09:04):
making I think he was makinglike 400 grand a month with his
businesses.
I mean, the dude's a killer, ohmy goodness, I mean the guy's a
monster.
I mean, he's just, he's the man.
He's the man, very successful.
He said I'm going to hire youto coach me.
And I was like no, no, no, no.
I said what am I going to?
(09:28):
No, no, same thing.
Money's already in your Venmo.
Better figure it out.
I'm like what am I going to do?
And so I want to vomit leadingup to this call.
You can barely get him on thephone.
I don't know what I'm going todo.
And so right before the call, Igo wait, he's not hiring me to
coach him in his business, heknows his business.
He's hiring me to see somethingthat he can't see.
And so I said I don't know whatI'm going to see, but I'm going
(09:48):
to see it.
And so we talked for like 45minutes and it's basically like
him just getting stuff off ofhis chest and like talking about
life.
And then, like right at likethe last end of the call, I like
I hit him with something.
It hit him like it got to theheart and he goes something.
It hit him like it got to theheart and he goes all right,
that's what I needed, thanks.
And just gets off the call.
It was like that was what thatwhole call was about, like
(10:10):
seeing it, and one of the thingsthat is very easy to do and I
don't say easy, but I saythere's been practice.
I've coached a lot of people,but one of my first mentors and
coaches who coached me throughaddiction said it's very easy to
be a coach if you're authenticto who you are.
And I said what do you mean?
He goes.
You never have to worry aboutclients because you only coach
(10:31):
what you've been through.
Yeah sure, and so you onlyattract.
And so when people come to meand they're like, hey, I think I
might get a divorce, I'm likeokay, I've been through that.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
Been there, cool yeah .
Addiction yeah, we're going totalk about that, yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
Yeah, and so I think a lot of people what they do
when they, even in business orin coaching, I think they
stretch for things theyshouldn't be talking about,
right, I think?
they do things they shouldn't bedoing.
And it's like you know and I'mjust as guilty like you're
taking on in the HVAC plumbingbusiness, we oh, that's a big
contract, we should do that.
And then you get like sixmonths in and you're like, yeah,
(11:11):
we shouldn't do that.
That's a client that weshouldn't work for because that
doesn't match for what we wantto do.
And I don't think people havetaken enough time to sit down
and go okay, now, what do Ireally want?
Because at this I'm sure you'reat this point in your career
too people ask me all the timewhat do you want?
And I said I just want peace.
I don't like drama.
I don't do drama.
My life is really dramatic.
Do you know how much work it isto get sober?
(11:33):
It's very dramatic.
You leave a 13-year marriage,you get laid off, there's a lot
of mess.
I'm engaged now and she'samazing.
We've been together for a long,all that stuff.
I just want to work with greatclients who want to do the work.
If they don't, that's cool.
Then you're not going to workfor me.
I want to do business withpeople that want to do business,
(11:54):
that have a big vision, butit's this frictionless kind of
thing, I don't think people.
This is what I say to businessowners all the time.
When was the last time that youexperienced your business?
Speaker 2 (12:06):
That's an interesting question.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
Like when were you a customer?
Speaker 2 (12:09):
Right, that's a very interesting question.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
Yeah, because you're sitting up here in your room and
you're saying oh, thesespreadsheets, and no, no, no.
When were you a customer, lastfor your business?
Speaker 2 (12:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
Okay, let me and I'm just guys, if you don't know, I
own HVAC plumbing company that'snot here, yeah stress that
they're three states away, andso when they call us, do they
feel like they're heard?
Do they feel Can they trust Jimgoing over and taking care of
(12:53):
his old parents and not takingadvantage of them?
There's so much there, and ifyou haven't lived on the front
lines of your business in a longtime, then you don't even know
how that feels when you'recreating that Right.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
Well, you're creating that right, right?
Well, you're talking about theimportance of connecting, and
it's you know, connecting toyour clients, no matter what
you're doing, and connectingwith other people, and you had
mentioned this, you know, it'sall about living life from the
heart, right?
And that's what's going to makeyou a good coach is just to
follow your heart, and I know Ipersonally am like definitely
(13:26):
working on that.
One of my hugest intentions ofthe year is connecting to my
heart and really following myheart as the guide to get me
just where I want to go, andeven not necessarily knowing
where I want to go, but if I'mfollowing my heart, then that
will unfold.
And don't necessarily worry somuch about the end game of that.
Just focus on the journey.
And if you connect with yourheart and in business I find,
(13:48):
especially the older I get, I'mlike I don't have any tolerance
for people who are rude and meanand like hello.
we're all just human beingstrying to live life and it
doesn't have to be as hard assome people are trying to make
it.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
So what's interesting right is your job, and what you
do is 99% harder than what wedo.
Okay, and hear me out.
What I do is sell somethingthat you can't see.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
You can only feel.
So I could say hey, we're goingto sell you this 9.7,.
You know Roto-Rooter andthey're like cool, does it turn
on?
When it's cold, does it turn onwhen it's hot.
Cool, sure, awesome, we don'tcare.
I tell my sales guy all thetime I said if you start, if you
don't stop talking about loadcount to the 80 year old
customers, they don't know whatyou're looking for.
(14:39):
Done yeah, what you're doing.
Oh man, there is like avisceral pain every day when
they wake up and they got to seethat thing and they're like I
told her I wanted this thing andthere's so much different, you
know.
And so I have a theory.
Right, here's my thing I cameup with.
(15:01):
The farther you get away fromthe customer, the front end
customer, the easier your lifecan be and the more money you
can make.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
Well, of course.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
Well, hear me out.
I buy for my vendor.
We have a big job.
I need $150,000 worth of copperfor the job.
He's not getting a review fromme.
I'm calling him and going hey,bob, we need $150,000.
Cool.
I'm calling them and going, hey, bob, we need $150,000.
Cool, sounds good.
And then I gotta hope that myguys wore booties.
They smiled they said thank you,they didn't leave crap around,
(15:32):
and then I gotta wait for thisreview, like I gotta do all
those things right, and we'remaybe gonna make a couple grand
off of it, like you know, and sopeople don't understand.
You know, one of my favoritelines of all time that I came up
with is the better you get atcooking, the farther you get
away from the kitchen.
Yeah, of course Like the thingthat you love.
The farther you get up in yourcareer, you don't get to do it
(15:52):
anymore.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
Yeah, but I also find that there are parts of me that
don't like that, because thereason why I got into it in the
first place doesn't existanymore.
And once you are managingpeople, and at a higher level.
It's just such a differentexperience and you get back
something different from it.
And to me, I found what you getback isn't quite as fulfilling
(16:17):
and satisfying as what got youinto it in the first place.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
It's the weirdest thing in the world.
Life is so ridiculous.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
Life is a wild ride, as you told me.
Life is a wild ride.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
Me and my business partners have been wanting to
buy a business for a long time.
I cut my teeth in real estatefor seven years, Got over real
estate because lenders it's awhole thing but started buying
businesses and ended up money inreal estate, Flipped the model,
whatever.
So we do this and we scale from16 employees to 54 employees In
16 months.
We rebuilt the business, thebusiness triple revenue last
(16:49):
year, all these things.
I've got managers in place ineach division.
They're killing it.
My sales guys are breakingrecords.
It's all good.
Him and I are bored out of ourminds.
We go our whole life, we wantedthis thing and now we don't
know what to do with ourselves.
Now that's not what's happeningright now, Because I cover like
nine different hats in thebusiness and I'm overseeing a
(17:11):
big project right now.
But there are times where theteam well, most of the time the
team doesn't need us and you'relike, wait, that's the thing
that you wanted.
You're like, wait, that's thething that you wanted.
You're like, wait, now we'regoing to have to go start some
side hustle business just tokeep ourselves occupied.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
To keep the interest peaked.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
There's only so much golf you could play, and for me,
I'll do a podcast, I'll docoaching.
I've got three other businessesand I still feel like I'm not
doing anything.
And I'm writing a book and allthese things.
Right, you're doing all thesethings and you're like, ah, like
I'm still not doing anything.
But when I know I am, I calledmy dad the other day and like
after like five minutes he goeshey, look, I'm already exhausted
(17:48):
Everything that you're doing.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
So like I get that all the time.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
You're busy, right, you know, but like we're just,
we just love it, like I justlove it, like I love talking
business.
It's so crazy to me.
True story Met a guy at aconference.
He bought a 130-year-oldflagpole company.
They've supplied the flagpoleto the White House.
Cool, he owns that business.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
Very cool, it's just so ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
It's like what?
I just find it fun.
And so when people are likedon't you get tired of it?
Like you worked all day andthen you got to go to a
networking event, and I'm likeno, it's like really cool, but
like it's been a calculatedsituation to remove the I don't
want to's off my calendar, Likeit took years of just saying, no
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, I'm not going to do thatanymore.
And like the big aha for me waslike I don't like having
anything on Fridays.
I don't like it.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
And.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
I don't like it after two o'clock on Friday,
especially, okay.
Yeah, so I get up every morningat 4 am, sometimes earlier,
right, wow, I used to coach 13to 15 clients in a day.
I would just coach all day.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
Oh, my goodness.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
Because I would segment out my day.
So I do a podcast a day, I docoaching, blah, blah blah.
Some would bleed into the nextday.
But I don't like Fridaysbecause I like to keep it open,
I catch up with people or I dothis thing, or so on and so on.
So I said to myself, oh, you'llget there in a couple of years,
you can do that.
And then something happenedwhere something fell through
that I had to do on Fridays andI was like what if I just like,
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what if I just like, did it now,do it now.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
Yeah, why not?
Speaker 1 (19:25):
And I was like no, no , no.
Like I'm telling myself likeyou can't do that.
And I was like, but like whatif I did?
Like who's going to be upset?
And I was like, oh, I'm justgoing to, I'm just going to do
that.
I want to go really hard.
Monday, tuesday, wednesday likehard, like work all day,
(19:47):
thursday, start ratcheting itdown, and then Friday ratchet it
down a bunch, and then whathappens is I'm better equipped
to go into the weekend.
Yeah sure my buddy jokes aboutthis all the time.
He does big stuff for ChaseBank, like big, big loans, and
he goes look, I'm not sayingthat I dislike COVID, but he was
like COVID was a little roughfor me because I'm in my office
(20:09):
upstairs I've got a two-year-oldand a five-year-old.
I'm yelling at my analyst inPrague about a $500 million loan
because he's not doing his joband I walk out of work and I got
a two-year-old around my ankles.
He was like I haven't had thefive seconds to switch from One
to the X.
Hey, do your job.
(20:30):
Yeah, the stress to be a dad.
And so a lot of people haveforgot because they haven't
taken their wind down time.
Because we're now this newworld where everything is 24-7.
Social media, crypto,everything.
Somebody posted the other dayon Twitter.
I thought it was really great.
They said crypto is like ademon.
It's not in the sense of like.
(20:51):
It doesn't stop, he goes.
You're just like.
I just want a night off where.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
I can just chill.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
And so we've created this thing where nobody does the
thing they enjoy anymore,because they feel like they
always have to be doing it.
So when I meet a client, mostof the time they're killing it
in business.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
But their personal life is like shambles.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
And you're like hey, what is something that you
really love doing?
Oh man, I love golfing.
When's the last time you didthat?
Three and a half years ago,okay.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
Oh great.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
So here's a circle.
You're the circle.
Here's all the ways you makemoney.
You're really good at that, butyou don't pay any attention to
the personal side, and so youwonder why you're burnt out
tired.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
Yeah, of course you need some balance and I feel you
might see this with yourclients.
Do you feel like your clientscome to you because they almost
need permission from someoneelse to tell them that it's okay
to make themselves a priorityin their lives, especially
successful business people?
Speaker 1 (21:54):
Yes, I wish you would tell me that right now that's
something I'm working on.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
It is okay.
It is okay to make yourself apriority.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
My fiance.
This is the like.
It sounds so trite and sosimple to say like.
She's like.
You know, like doing things foryourself is like.
That means that you loveyourself, and I'm like no no, I
just do for, like others, and Ijust do, you know, a shirt off
my back and whatever you needand jump on the phone and you
like?
No, no, no, that's not how itworks.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
Yeah, you can't be continually giving.
You got to give to you too.
You have to fit you into thatgiving bucket.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
They need permission to be who they've always meant
to be.
That's what they need, Right?
They need permission to putdown the mask, Say you know what
?
I don't think I want to do thatanymore, Right?
And we're wearing all thesehats and they're not even our
hats.
And I had a good friend of minewho coaches men for a living.
He said the problem is is thateverybody's changing the vehicle
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, but the driver didn't change.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
Very interesting analogy yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
They're all like getting in a different, like I'm
in a Hummer, sometimes I'm in aCorvette, but the driver didn't
change.
But we're all hoping that whenwe find the right vehicle,
everything's going to make sense.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
Yeah, but it doesn't work that way.
It's just still the same.
You so are.
Most of the people who come toyou for coaching are, most of
them, pretty successful in thebusiness realm, because you can
relate to their level of success.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
Yeah, I mean most of them are.
There's two things that I foundit's the craziest thing.
I have like two groups.
Well, the wildest thing is I'vebeen coaching a lot of women
lately, which has never happenedbefore, so that's been super
interesting.
Yeah, I think they like thegood kick in the butt.
(23:40):
I think they like the tough.
I normally have two sets ofclients.
One is a young guy who's 23 or27.
He makes good money but he'ssoulless.
It's just like I can't keepdoing this Right, so we'll start
the business or we'll dosomething different or something
like that, or I coach the 35and up who have made some money
looking for a change.
The joke with me is that whenyou coach with me, a couple
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things are going to happen.
One you might move to Europe ortravel there for about two
months.
You might get divorced.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
You might get divorced, you might get married
and you might leave your job.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
I believe that we get stuck in these patterns, and so
my first couple of weeks withthem is just to shake it up a
little bit, do something alittle different.
I like to not have them see mecoming.
I'm saying it on purpose, soyou can be offended.
I'm saying it on purpose.
40-year-old plus men I'm sayingit.
(24:38):
You think that you're so sneaky, you think that you have it all
figured out.
You are so stuck in yourpatterns and they are so obvious
.
It's not even funny.
They're sitting on their highhorse and they're saying, when I
get to this revenue number,it's going to be okay then.
Speaker 2 (24:59):
The kiss of death.
It will be okay when.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
But here's what's crazy, right?
This is what I ask them to do.
I want you to go in front ofyour family and I want you to
ask your 3 or 4 year old or 6year old when you walk through
the door.
Does your 6 year old ask youwhat's in the bank account?
Yeah, and you say that you'redoing it for them.
Did they ask you to do thesethings?
And so when you admit that thissuccess that you need is for
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yourself, then we can startRight.
Because oh no, it's for them, no, no, no, it's for you and
that's okay.
Yeah, I want a successfulcompany and a big company
because I want jobs.
I want to give the money away.
I want to create a ranch wherewe heal addiction and chronic
pain, and I want to hostretreats there.
(25:49):
Those are the things that Iwant.
So in order to do that, I needa really big company Some days,
I think that I'd rather justmove to Nepal and disappear.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
But hey, it's each to their own.
Speaker 1 (25:55):
So you're giving them the permission to seek
something different.
You're asking them to becomemore than they are, which is
very hard, and then you'regiving them the cover to do it.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
That's it.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
Which is really powerful.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
Yeah, yeah, Because most people haven't even taken
the time to decide whether ornot they want, because a lot of
people are comfortable, right,they're making good money.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
Right.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
Their marriage is okay, they're in decent shape.
You know it's nothing likecrazy, like the biggest question
in life.
Right, I think I could readevery book in the world and not
understand it.
Why does it take us hitting abrick wall, doing 179 to?
Speaker 2 (26:33):
change it does.
Right Right, because most ofthe time it's good enough and
people feel like, oh, Ishouldn't be striving for more
or striving for different,because how is this not good
enough?
Speaker 1 (26:45):
I'm obsessed with this concept of good to great.
I've read all the Jim Collinsbooks Like I've left so many
things that were good to like,pursue something that I think is
better for me, and like thatin-between time for it to happen
is like the scariest thing inthe entire world.
Of course this is so stupid.
Why am I?
Speaker 2 (27:04):
doing this, I got this whole thing over here.
And you're just like ah, whatam I?
Speaker 1 (27:08):
No, and then you're like oh okay, this is why I did
it.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
Yeah, because you have to have a little faith and
you got to trust and trust inyourself, which sometimes that's
a lot of times where peoplealso go to a coach because they
don't trust in themselves and sothey need help to figure out
how to do that.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
My small business that we bought and that's you
think I'm interesting.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
IRS FBI.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
You think I'm interesting has reintroduced me
to what faith is Interesting, inwhat way?
And panic attacks?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, in what way.
How do you define faith now?
I define faith as having anability to believe that you are
destined to get through.
Speaker 2 (27:50):
Yeah, of course.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
And I believe that I thought I could do it all with
my own force.
Like Surrender Experiment islike the book for me, like I hit
it at the right, perfect time,yep, and that's what I'm trying
to do.
Yeah, when you're upgradingyour life and you're stepping
into more of a coach, investor,mentor role in your business.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:12):
Do you know how frustrating it is to me that I
have to rely on, like mylivelihood, on a bunch of other
people?
It's like you know, like I lovecontrol and you're just like
you're like.
Jesus, take the wheel.
You're like we just put a newGM in and I'm like have at it
man, like you know, but he caresso much Like I'm not worried
(28:33):
about it.
Like it doesn't mean that hehas everything that he needs to
be successful, because he'lllearn that, but he cares.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
That's all that matters.
That.
But he cares, that's all thatmatters, which is important.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
Okay, so I need to let you do the thing.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
And that's what we my .
Speaker 1 (28:46):
CEO talk about all the time.
It's very hard to know that wecould fix a problem in five
seconds and we have to just letit play out.
Yeah, it's the hardest thing inthe world.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
But it's so good for your personal growth to let it
go.
Speaker 1 (28:59):
So I have a good friend who's built in a very
successful company and they wentfrom like 2 million to like 26
million in like four yearsbuying companies.
He said if you give youremployees the answer, it means
that you don't care about themgrowing.
And he goes or you're lazy.
And when he told me that I waslike I'm done, it was on my
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podcast.
I was like, okay, cut that out.
I'm just going to listen tothat every morning because it
was the truth.
I mean it's the truth.
You no longer possess theskills to care about your
employees anymore.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
If that's the case, Sure Because then you might as
well just do their job too, yeah, and then you might as well
have a single business which isgreat, I mean, that's what you
want.
Speaker 1 (29:42):
Yeah, of course, but when you're taking on people,
you're taking on what's going onin their life.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
You're taking on the responsibility of shepherding
them.
I view and I say this it's nota hyperbole it is my job to
protect my employees and stewardthe business.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
That's it.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
And I take that very seriously.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
Do people come to you for coaching about how to do
that with their businesses?
Speaker 1 (30:05):
How to be better leaders.
I don't my personal opinion.
I think it's something that'scatching on.
I think it's caught on, but Ithink it's catching on more and
more.
I think a lot of people areaccidental leaders.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
Yeah right.
Speaker 1 (30:18):
Before we bought the business, I knew this was going
to be a thing.
I read every John Maxwell book.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
Every one of them.
Speaker 1 (30:23):
I spent like six months on leadership, what it
was for me, what I defined it as, what I hated in a leader.
That was really rude to me.
You have to understand I'm alsoin a trade that for the better
part of the last 75 years theythought that yelling was how you
got stuff done.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
Of course Right.
Of course, yes, right.
Speaker 1 (30:41):
So it's like we're in this new thing where they don't
trust me because they think I'mtoo nice.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (30:48):
But I'm kind of like a little edgy too, like we're
like I'll cross them One time.
I like long story.
This guy like overstepped andwas like verbally abusing an
employee and I just went crazy.
I was like get out, don't youever speak to anybody like that
I mean I was like don't you everintimidate somebody again, that
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is a young kid.
I mean I just went off a deephit and I walked in my CEO's
office and he's like, hey, bro,that was a little much.
And I was like, no, they needto know that I can go there,
because it's unacceptable.
You will not treat people likethat, and that was the only time
I ever had to do that.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
And it's like you're still trying to.
You're growing up in front ofthem.
Speaker 2 (31:35):
This is a true story.
Speaker 1 (31:37):
So when I got introduced.
So I'm going to buy the company, we're under LOI, I'm there to
visit, to work out the hammer.
So I'm in Texas at the time.
I'm flying back and forth toget this deal done.
I'm there just to meet theseller, just meet the seller and
work out the last details andthen I'm going to go home.
That's all that was saying.
I'm in his home.
It's Tuesday morning.
(31:57):
He says no, no, no, let's gomeet the team.
No, no, no, whoa, whoa, whoa,no, no, no.
I want to introduce you.
I want to move this along.
I'm like no, no, no, no, no, no, I don't want.
No, no, no, I'm not ready.
I don't know what to say.
No, no, no, we're going to getin, we pop in, we go.
So I got 18.
I'm me and I'm 18 people andI'm like oh my God what am I
(32:22):
going to say?
And he's like so this is the newguy that's going to buy you
blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
And I was like so I'm divorced,I'm a former alcoholic and I
used to be a drug addict.
Nice to meet you.
Yeah, it's good, it makes youreal.
And afterwards four of themcame up to me like in recovery
(32:42):
Awesome, us too.
And like it was like you know,and I was just like that's what
I'm going to go with and so, andso it was great, because it was
like okay, cool, like I'm notabove you, I'm not below you,
Like I'm just human, the same,you know real.
Speaker 2 (32:50):
Yeah, you're just a person.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
And so one of my Naval has an amazing quote.
He said the only way to escapecompetition is to be
authentically you.
Which is so important andthat's one of your roles as a
coach is to help people figureout who they authentically are
right, and most don't even know,because they've taken on the
label of their parents or theirfriends or what somebody told
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them one time when they were sixyears old.
Speaker 2 (33:13):
Sure, of course, and they've built a life around that
label.
Speaker 1 (33:18):
Yeah, and it's got to be exhausting.
You know juggling the plates.
It is To make everybody happy.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
It is Now.
Let me ask you a question.
Most coaches I know have acoach.
Do you have a coach?
Speaker 1 (33:29):
I have been doing a different thing lately.
Speaker 2 (33:32):
Yeah, what have you been doing?
Speaker 1 (33:34):
I don't have business coaches.
Speaker 2 (33:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:36):
So I have what I consider like a mastermind, is
like my business owners, who areall successful in different
things, so we talk all the time.
I've been going the spiritualwomen's route lately.
Speaker 2 (33:48):
The spiritual women's route.
Okay, that needs a lot ofdefinition.
What is that?
Speaker 1 (33:54):
I need work on my feminine.
Speaker 2 (33:56):
Okay, yep.
Speaker 1 (33:57):
So my feminine side is very closed off.
I'm not speaking to my motherright now.
She's not speaking to my motherright now.
She's not speaking to me.
Me and my dad didn't speak for20 years.
So we're back and we talkweekly.
So for me, I blacked out mostof my childhood and so my fiance
is extremely spiritual andfaith based and all this stuff.
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So for me, I consume a lot ofbooks around business.
I consume around a pocket.
I don't really want to do thatanymore.
Speaker 2 (34:27):
I am gearing up to be the best father I can be when
we eventually have kids.
Speaker 1 (34:29):
Love it, so for me that's going to take a lot of
things.
So these like it's just likehappened that way.
It's not like I was seeking outlike a woman's coach.
Yeah, but like I've talked tolike medians, yeah.
Like, you know all thedifferent, you know modalities,
right.
Speaker 2 (34:46):
Oh, I do it all.
Intuitives, tarot card readers,yeah, human design, all of it.
Speaker 1 (34:52):
And I'm about to say something that's really going to
get some people upset.
But I don't really care,Because you can lie on whatever
what fence you want with this,but lie on ever what fence you
want with this.
But cocaine and meth were myproblems.
Speaker 2 (35:07):
That was my main problems and alcohol, but when I
got divorced mushrooms saved mylife.
Speaker 1 (35:10):
Doing that with a shaman and going through the
pain of that divorce andrebuilding my life.
That was my big aha moment andthat started me on this path.
The spirituality side is stillnew to me.
I have my own thoughts aboutthe church and all that stuff
like that from a childhood basis.
So there's so much there thatI'm unpacking and figuring out.
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So it's just been somethingI've explored.
I'm about to start working withthe medical intuitive on my
health.
So there's so much there thatI'm this is all new to me.
It's all very interesting, soI'm just trying to be open to
all of it.
I love putting myself in veryawkward situations but I'm very
(35:57):
stubborn out the gate.
But once I settle into it, I'mgood.
But I would say and I got noproblem because I'm very open
and honest I me.
Like me is the hardest thingthat exists, like my personal
relationships, like I've been onmy own since I was like 17.
My family's never really wasaround.
(36:18):
My friends were my family, butthey weren't really family.
And so for me it's like I wantto make sure and this is the
hardest thing for me, I want tomake sure that my anger, my
anxiety, like all those thingsare, like you know, as cleaned
up and washed away as I can,because we my, my fiance, crazy
childhood as well to foster care, drug addiction, all in her
(36:39):
family, she's, she's, she's,none of that stuff for her, but
we just, we're just so adamantabout being great parents, um,
and so to do the work, is isneeded and it's, and it sucks
too at the same time because,like you're finding out stuff
about like three years old.
Speaker 2 (36:54):
Yeah, yeah, which is tough.
Speaker 1 (36:56):
This is big stuff, it's not small stuff, and four
or six and stuff that you'relike.
Speaker 2 (37:01):
Journey work is tough , especially mushroom journey
work.
Yeah, you've completely blackedout True story.
Speaker 1 (37:06):
I don't remember anything prior to 17 years old
Nothing, it's all just.
Speaker 2 (37:11):
And a lot of people who have trauma don't.
Speaker 1 (37:13):
So what's happened to me is I'm obsessed with Don
Miguel Ruiz.
So the.
Four Agreements.
Speaker 2 (37:20):
Yeah, great book.
Speaker 1 (37:22):
My favorite book, one of my favorite books of all
time, is the Five Levels ofAttachment.
Speaker 2 (37:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (37:26):
All right, and so basically what I realized about
three months ago on a walk whenI was down in Pittsburgh is that
everything I believe about mychildhood is fake Really.
Everything.
Speaker 2 (37:36):
What happened that made you realize that?
Because that's a big one.
Speaker 1 (37:40):
I realized that maybe my parents weren't as happy as
I thought they were.
Maybe it wasn't as joyous as Ithought they were.
Speaker 2 (37:48):
Like all these things .
Speaker 1 (37:49):
You start peeling things and you're like oh.
And also and I wasn't as bad asof a kid as everybody made me
out to be- and.
I didn't like those things, andso I was just like wait, is it
all BS?
Oh, yeah, I think it's all BSOkay well, wait, hold on hold on
, hold on.
Now I don't have anything tohang my hat on.
Now I have to rebuild my entireexistence of what I believe in.
Okay, this is going to take awhile, like you're, just like
(38:15):
you know you're, you're startingto peel back the onions and
you're, and you're saying toyourself, like okay, so if
that's the case, what do Ibelieve, what don't I believe?
Okay, does it does any of thatmatter?
And maybe I just go from hereLike that.
Speaker 2 (38:25):
I don't have the answer.
Speaker 1 (38:27):
It's really weird for me.
I'm quick on my feet when Italk, but like I'll hear
something let's say I hear somebad news or something, or find
out something it won't hit mefor like two months later.
Interesting Like some randomthing you're walking or like
it's just like boom.
You're in a conversation Likeit's just like boom.
My mind takes a long time tolike process it, but like, once
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it's in, it's in.
There are some things that I'mgoing to have to address with my
parents that I don't reallywant to Of course.
You know, and there'sconversations that are going to
have to be had, where in thepast, I've been like you know
what.
Let's just keep it civil, butmy fiance is like a crusader of
truth and that is not going totranspire.
Speaker 2 (39:07):
Good for her.
Speaker 1 (39:09):
So I am comfortable saying that I'm excited to see
what this looks like 10 yearsfrom now, because it's weirdly
weird when you feel like yourlife just started at 36.
Yes, and then really startedagain at 42.
You feel like you were figuringit out, getting the right
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people around you, and only inthe last I just turned 42 last
month I feel like it's finallylike okay, I've got the right
people around you.
And only in the last I justturned 42 last month I feel like
it's finally like okay, I'vegot the right people, got the
right vehicle for the businessgot the right support.
It's like, okay, let's go dowork, and so it's very odd, when
you're a doer your whole lifeto become a surrenderer.
It's very hard.
I don't like it, but I'membracing it.
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You're uncomfortable, butthat's where growth happens.
Speaker 2 (39:55):
Growth always happens in the uncomfortable.
So you know, you know that as acoach.
But I commend you for doing thework and for being so honest
and vulnerable about the work,because it will be one of the
things that will make you suchan exceptional coach for other
people, because you've done thatinner work.
You know, not only have youovercome addiction and all these
other things, but you've donethat inner work.
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Not only have you overcomeaddiction and all these other
things, but you've done theinner work.
You're working on the innerwork, and so it'll give you a
lot of empathy for other peopleand also help motivate them a
little bit to be like look, I'mdoing it.
Don't give me this BS about whyyou can't.
You can.
If you want to, you can.
Speaker 1 (40:33):
That's what we told.
We got a manager who's got towork on some things and, like
our CEO and myself were like,hey, we did this, like we
already did this, like we'regoing to tell you it's going to
suck, but you're going to bebetter for it if you embrace it.
You're going to be a better dad.
You're going to be a betteremployee.
You're going to be a betterfriend.
Like all these employee, You'regoing to be a better friend.
(40:54):
All these things it's cool.
It's cool man, yeah.
And so there's some comfortthere to go like okay, they've
been through it.
Speaker 2 (41:03):
They have Right, exactly which is super helpful,
right?
So let's talk about yourpodcast for a second.
Construct your Life what madeyou decide you wanted to become
a podcaster and why that subject?
Speaker 1 (41:09):
So I was at a real estate conference called Best
Ever in Breckenridge, colorado.
There was 700 people there,there was a conference inside,
and then there was a circlearound the conference room where
there was booths set up andpeople were networking.
So this was a month beforeCOVID.
I'm sitting there and I'mlooking at everybody that people
(41:31):
are talking to, and there'slike a line of people waiting to
talk to people, and I realizedin that moment that every single
person they wanted to talk tohad a podcast Interesting, and
so I had been thinking about itfor a while.
And so I was talking to thisguy I just met and he's like hey
, you should start a podcast.
He's like I'm just telling youto start a podcast.
So, while I was at theconference, I'm texting my
(41:53):
business partner at the time andwe're throwing around names,
and then I'm texting my old bassplayer who runs a podcast
studio when I used to work inthe music business.
I was like, hey, I'm going tostart this podcast, I'll be home
next week, we're going to startrecording.
I was just like boom.
So we came up with a name, wehad the logo before I left, and
(42:17):
then when I got back I got laidoff.
So what I was doing is I justused it.
This is a true story.
I was doing seven to nineinterviews a day, four days a
week.
Speaker 2 (42:24):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (42:25):
For the first 11 months.
Speaker 2 (42:26):
That's amazing.
That's so much content.
Speaker 1 (42:29):
I was talking to athletes.
I was talking to like.
I was like really trying tofigure out my life.
I was traveling and I had mypodcast studio and I was just
traveling around the West Coastand I just got separated, so I
was hanging out.
I met my fiance at the time.
We started talking mid-summer.
But, I was just interviewingpeople and it was an exploration
(42:52):
of like, okay, what are yougoing to do next?
And so I got done and I'd doneall these podcasts the first
year, and so one of the thingsthat was really important to me
was I wanted to do it for theright reasons.
So I told my podcast.
I said look, no matter what Ido, no matter what I bribe you
with, don't let me see how manypeople downloaded it, please.
I'm begging.
Speaker 2 (43:11):
you Don't do it.
Speaker 1 (43:22):
I'm losing weight.
Right now I'm not in a mentalstate where I can handle it
because I'll give up.
So for like two, I don't thinkI saw it until year three, wow.
So one day I asked him, likereal hard, I was like dude, you
need to tell me.
And he's like, no, you told menot to.
And so he said, look, all I cantell you is that every month is
going up and to the right and Iwas like okay, cool, and so
there's a concept in AtomicHabits.
It's called position thinkingversus trajectory thinking, and
it's like is the thing thatyou're doing, are you always
(43:43):
moving towards it or are yousitting neutral?
I just started doing thepodcast, and that's what we've
been doing ever since, and oneof the things that I was very
cognizant about is I'm a personwho likes to talk about a lot of
different stuff, and so Iwanted to make sure that I
didn't niche it down so muchthat I would run out of topics
to talk about.
So I think honestly, if I'mbeing honest, we kind of
(44:04):
stumbled on something that worksand it's been interesting.
First couple of years it wasall real estate in life.
Now it's been like business inlife.
So I've kind of grown with it.
Speaker 2 (44:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (44:17):
And I haven't asked my audience to come with me, but
they've just watched me grow upand one of the greatest
compliments I ever got was mybuddy, who's listened to every
episode one of my best friends.
He's like I'm not going to lieto you.
He's like you were a verycrappy interviewer at the
beginning.
He's like you talk too much andyou wouldn't listen and you ask
the wrong questions, he's likebut you're absolutely amazing
(44:39):
now.
Good and this is like episode200, 300.
And so it's cool to them see.
But then what I realized is it'skind of like a documentation of
your life.
Speaker 2 (44:50):
It's like a journey, right.
Speaker 1 (44:51):
Yeah, and you give that journey to other people and
it's so important becausesometimes we can get jaded
because there is so much podcastout there.
But I had a good friend, one ofmy best friends.
He said I sent it to mygrandmother.
He is a very successful guy whostarted from nothing in
Venezuela and he goes.
My grandmother thinks I'mfamous, he goes and if something
ever happens to me, my kidshave a documentation of the
(45:14):
story of my life, Love it.
And that's when I sat back andgo.
Okay, this is a little moreimportant than just flicking
record.
Yeah, and so it's just been.
It's been something that'shonestly it's created.
Everything that you see todayis created because of it.
Speaker 2 (45:29):
The business partnerships, the connections,
the opportunities all that hashappened because of the podcast.
So powerful so you do a Fridayrant.
Let's talk about that for aminute.
Speaker 1 (45:39):
So it was very spicy in the beginning.
I was going through some stuff.
Even people would be like Ithink you should take that down.
I'm like, no, I'm not taking itdown.
But here's something funny andI haven't shared this with
anybody because it's but maybeif I say it out loud, I'll have
to do it.
So the Friday rants are likethree to four minutes of like
(45:59):
there's no script, there's nonothing.
I'm just riffing and talkingabout something and it goes
where it goes.
So we have taken all those like52 of them and we're turning it
into a book.
Speaker 2 (46:11):
I was just going to say it's a perfect book.
Speaker 1 (46:16):
It's like life lessons attached to the video,
so on and so on.
Honestly, it's everybody'sfavorite.
Like I get texts all the time.
They're like man, you did thattoday.
Like it's everybody's favoriteand it's just something that I'm
really committed to is likethat.
One will just never change.
Speaker 2 (46:30):
Because you just authentically talk about
whatever you decide you're goingto talk about, talk about
whatever you decide you're goingto talk about and you just are
very real and share youropinions, share your thoughts,
share your viewpoint.
You're just really honest aboutit and vulnerable about it,
which I think I feel like peoplewant that more and more.
Speaker 1 (46:50):
I said something during one that's always stuck
with me and you say something inconsciousness and you don't
even know it sometimes.
I said you want to knowsomething that's never
disappointed me ever A sunrise.
I love that.
Speaker 2 (47:04):
It was a comment about life and how we don't
focus on the right things LikeI've never been disappointed by
a sunset or sunrise Never.
Speaker 1 (47:11):
I'm with you.
People ask.
They'll ask all the time.
They'll say, oh, you know, butthey'll like text me something.
I'm like, oh damn, who saidthat?
And they're like you said thatand I'm like I said that.
You know, you just kind of like,you just kind of let the mind
go, you know, and I don't reallyhave an agenda.
So it's been something that Ireally enjoy.
I kind of hit on it and kind ofdidn't stop it.
(47:33):
And I think that's key in theconsistency department when it
comes to podcast is like youjust have to stick to something.
Speaker 2 (47:39):
Yeah, and be doing it for the right reasons.
You're doing it because youwanted to do it, and I always
say to people I feel like beinga podcaster is a gift, and it's
a gift to get to be introducedto so many incredible people and
to share their stories on ourplatform, and I think that's a
gift that we can't take forgranted and it's a privilege to
be able to do it.
And if you're open to the peoplethat you meet and receptive to
(48:01):
what they have to say and whatthey have to share, and your
mission is really to just sharemore of that with a broader
audience, like what greater gift.
Speaker 1 (48:09):
Yeah, no, 100%, 100%.
Speaker 2 (48:11):
Oh, I love it.
All right, we've taken up somuch of your time.
You've mentioned a whole bunchof books, which I will put all
of those actually, in the shownotes, because I always ask
people to recommend a book thatthey've read that's impacted
their lives, professionally andpersonally.
Is there anything elsebook-wise or any takeaway that I
haven't asked you that you wantto make sure you get in?
Speaker 1 (48:30):
before we have to say goodbye.
So it's.
I bought the book 65, 70 timesfor people.
Yeah, I'll just like meetrandom people and buy the book
for them because it changed mylife.
There are many books thatchanged my life, but this one is
kind of like the foundation ofeverything, and so what it's
called?
It's called what you Say whenyou Talk To Yourself, and so his
name is Shad Hemsley.
He's the original like, speakperson right and he tells a
(48:53):
story.
It's basically saying that yoursubconscious runs 90% of your
mind why do we do the things wedo?
Their habits or patterns, howto rework and how to rewire your
mind, so on and so on.
So this woman is in a marriagethat is kind of loveless and her
husband doesn't want to doanything.
All he does is watch footballall day.
And so she decides she wants togo to this flyer.
It's like a Jim Rohn thing.
(49:14):
So, shad, go to this thing.
He's like why are you going tothat?
It's just a waste of money.
Blah, blah, blah.
So she goes.
She gets the self.
So he's the original developerof the self-talk books or tapes.
So she turns it on.
He's watching football.
She turns it on in the kitchenand he says turn that crap off,
(49:50):
turn that crap off.
Speaker 2 (49:51):
I don't want to hear that.
And he goes, you know what?
Just turn it down.
Speaker 1 (49:52):
So she listens to the tape for like 10 days in a row
and every day he's telling herto turn it anything, and what
the basic premise was is like helistened to the things without
listening to the things andreprogrammed like how he viewed
the world, and so that book isthe first book that I recommend
to everybody to start.
Speaker 2 (50:07):
That is powerful.
Oh, I'm going to have to getthat.
I've tried to read every bookthat my podcast guests recommend
, so I look forward to gettingthat one.
Thank you so much.
Guest recommend, so I lookforward to getting that one.
Thank you so much.
Well, austin, this has been atrue pleasure.
You are just an amazing,inspiring human.
You are an incredible businessperson, a great coach, and I
love the work that you share,that you're going to be doing on
yourself to become the mostincredible father.
(50:29):
So congratulations to you andthank you so much for your time.
I will put in the show noteslinks so everybody can follow
you.
They can follow your podcast,they can find your website, they
can learn more about coachingwith you.
I will put all of that into theshow notes.
So thank you so much for yourtime Awesome.
Speaker 1 (50:42):
Thank you for the opportunity.
Speaker 2 (50:43):
Thank you, have a great day.
We'll talk soon.
Thank you for joining us foranother episode of the House of
Jermar podcast, where wellnessstarts within.
We appreciate you being a partof our community and hope you
felt inspired and motivated byour guest.
If you enjoyed this episode,please write us a review and
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