August 21, 2025 • 60 mins
Stepping onto a playing field with sweaty palms and racing thoughts is a universal experience for teen athletes. What if they had tools to transform that anxiety into focused energy? In this heartfelt conversation, mindset coach Lindsay Potter reveals how she's helping young athletes do exactly that.
Lindsay shares her remarkable journey from beverage industry marketing executive to mental performance coach for teenagers. After being laid off just before COVID hit, she embarked on an entrepreneurial path that eventually led her to combine her 25 years of coaching experience with her passion for mental wellness. Through meditation, breathwork training, and her own athletic background as a collegiate lacrosse player, Lindsay discovered her true calling: empowering teen athletes to build confidence, resilience, and mental toughness.
What makes this conversation particularly compelling is Lindsay's honest approach to fear and confidence-building. She explains that confidence isn't something we simply have or don't have—it's a skill developed through consistent practice and habit-building. With teenage athletes facing unprecedented pressure in today's competitive landscape, Lindsay's work teaches them practical tools like box breathing, visualization, and emotional regulation that serve them both on and off the field.
The episode also explores Lindsay's personal wellness practices, from her morning meditation routine to her five-minute gratitude journal, showing how she embodies the mindset she teaches. Her inspiring story of coaching her own children through a challenging Grand Canyon hike illustrates her philosophy perfectly: don't focus on the distant summit; just make it to the next patch of shade. This "one step at a time" approach applies equally to athletic performance, entrepreneurship, and any meaningful challenge we face.
Ready to help the young athletes in your life develop mental strength alongside physical skills? Listen now, and discover how mindset coaching might be the missing piece in their performance puzzle. Follow Lindsay on Instagram or reach out through the links in our show notes to learn more about her work with teen athletes.
Lindsay's Book Recommendation: Journey to the Heart by Melody Beattie
More about Lindsay:
Lindsay Potter is a mental performance coach for teen athletes, blending 25+ years of experience as an athlete and coach with a background in brand marketing. After being laid off from her director role just before COVID, Lindsay turned inward—discovering her purpose through meditation, healing, and personal growth. Now, she helps athletes build the mindset tools to thrive under pressure and in life. A former NCAA All-American and Hall of Fame lacrosse player, she’s also the host of the podcast, Constantly Curious. Lindsay lives in her hometown of Greenwich, CT with her husband Seth and their two teenager children, Lily and Owen.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
My kids as well are in preseason tryouts this week
and I can feel the nerves comingoff of these kids like just
emanating.
But like I say to them everytime they ask for advice, you
just have to be in it likeanything in life.
You know, of course, the moreyou think about it, the more the
nerves build, the more fearbuilds.
As long as you're in the action, it just all dissipates.
(00:22):
You just do your best andyou're in the action.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
it just all dissipates.
You just do your best andyou're off to the races.
Welcome to the House of Germarpodcast, where wellness starts
within.
The House of Germar is alifestyle brand empowering women
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We are a destination for womenready to reimagine what is
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We are honored to have you joinus on our mission to empower 1
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million women to live all in.
I am your host, jean Collins,and I invite you to become
inspired by this week's guest.
Welcome to the House of Jermarpodcast, where wellness starts
within.
I'm your host, jean Collins,and today's guest.
I am so honored to have LindsayPotter here.
She is a personal friend.
This is her second time on theshow and she has just gone
(01:13):
through such an incredibletransformation journey since she
was on the show over a year agoand I am so excited to have her
back.
So this folks is going to feela little like having a cup of
tea with two friends.
So welcome, lindsay, back tothe show.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
Cheers.
It's so great to be back and Ican't believe it was a year ago.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
It was over a year ago you were like episode five,
and I think this will be episode61.
Oh, I'm so proud of you.
Thank you, yes, and we haven'ttalked in a while.
So this is going to feel alittle like catch up folks.
But Lindsay is so cool and shedoes something cozy, Get cozy
folks.
And she has a podcast.
She's relaunching a podcast.
So much to talk about.
But just so you know a littlebit about who Lindsay is, I'll
(01:52):
put her whole bio in the shownotes, but just to give you an
idea of what makes Lindsay sounique and I am so excited to
talk about how she got into this.
So she is a mindset and mentalperformance coach for teen
athletes and it is back toschool time.
This is her peak season.
This is when everyone shouldrun and reach out to Lindsay,
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
It's so great.
It really is.
My kids as well are inpreseason tryouts this week and
I can feel the nerves coming offof these kids just emanating.
But like I say to them everytime they ask for advice, you
just have to be in it, likeanything in life, you know, of
course, the more you think aboutit, the more you the nerves
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build, the more fear builds.
As long as you're in the action, it just all dissipates.
You just do your best andyou're off to the races, which
is so true.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
All right.
So, people who haven't seen youon episode five I want to say
five or six let's step backwardsa little bit, because this was
not always your calling and evensince you were a guest last
time, your evolution to findingyour niche and your true amazing
purpose has been incredible.
So let's take a step back, giveus a little bit of background
about your career and how youjust even got into the mindset
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coaching space in the firstplace.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
Okay, great question.
And yes, so much has changed inthe past year.
So I am.
I was, by trade, a marketer.
I was in marketing for about 10years, most of my 30s.
Now I'm in my late 40s, but mycareer in marketing I kind of
fell backwards into it.
I was very privileged to behead of marketing for a number
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of beverage startups.
So I was in the beverage spaceconsumer packaged goods and had
a lot of success, worked withamazing teams, incredible people
and very well-known brands.
And then, right before COVIDhit, I was laid off from a
director role at a big companyand it was a blessing in
disguise.
At first I was like, what am Igoing to do?
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Where am I going to go?
But my kids were getting older.
I really wanted to be home.
When they got home I had alwayswanted my own business and
working in the entrepreneurialspace for entrepreneurs, I
learned so much of what it takes.
Little did I know being theentrepreneur, the business owner
takes a lot more than what Isaw as an employee.
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But I knew that I wanted threethings back right before COVID.
So that was the end of 2019.
I wanted to be home when thekids got home.
I wanted to have my ownbusiness and I wanted it to be
profitable so to be able to workfrom anywhere and profitability
.
So to be able to work fromanywhere and profitability.
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And I started just doing what Icould to make money back then
with the.
I still do consult with peopleon their social media there are
so many of us that do it but Ido love social media as a tool
for marketing you and I both.
So I was doing that for a whileand I had a business doing it.
I was making good money, but itjust was like a round peg
(05:02):
square hole.
I always use that analogy.
Just something wasn't fitting.
And then I hired a highperformance coach.
So this was about three and ahalf years ago and I thought
that's what I needed.
I thought I'm a high performer,I need a high performance
business coach, and what Ilearned pretty quickly was that
I needed to do some work on meto get clear on.
We talk about inner wellness andI know your show is a lot about
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that, but I didn't really knowwhat that meant and I really
didn't spend any time with justmy own thoughts, which is wild,
looking back because of whereI've come in the past three
years.
Yeah, so I started doing thework, the proverbial work.
I started meditating.
My coach helped me get to aplace where I realized like my
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life is in my control, but Ihave to choose it.
And so I started choosing meand doing what felt really good,
like using my skillset from allof my past experiences.
I was in marketing, but beforethat I had been in television
production.
I mean, I had had a lot of jobs.
I ran a store for Lululemonwhen they were just coming onto
the scene.
(06:06):
Like I need to write a bookeventually about all of the life
experiences in my career thatI've had, because it is very
colorful.
But it all led me to herebecause ultimately, what I
learned is that I've always beenan athlete.
I was a big lacrosse player inhigh school and college.
I was good at the sport becauseI loved it, and I've coached
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for the past 25 years.
I've always coached young teamsand so I started by getting
certified to be a life coachLong story long here and I loved
helping adults through pivotsin their career.
I had a number of adult clients.
They were looking to changecareers in midlife.
I had done it, so I was trainedin helping them in life
coaching.
And still that square peg roundhole situation.
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I wasn't marketing myself.
Something didn't feel right andthen I stepped out onto the
lacrosse field to coach kids.
This is now two years ago and Ijust knew I need to focus on
working with kids.
This is where my heart is, thisis what I know I'm good at.
And so I went and got certifiedto be more of a mindset coach,
focusing on mental performance,and I've been coaching kids ever
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since.
So that's how I got here today.
Long story, I still coachlacrosse.
I love it.
It lights me up and it gives methe opportunity to be on the
ground floor with the kids,listening to where the pressure
is coming from, what types ofanxiety do they have?
You know, what are theybringing from school to the
athletic field and vice versa.
(07:35):
So it's just been an incrediblejourney and I'm just getting
started.
Like really, I feel like thisis year one which is so exciting
, which is so good.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
Thanks for listening, no, which I totally love,
because the other cool thingthat I think about your story
that I think is reallyinteresting when I first met you
, you were life coaching adults,yeah, and you kept saying like
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I'm just kind of like I lovethis, but there's something off,
right, so square peg round,like it just was a little bit
off.
And when I heard you say to meI figured it out.
And when you said it to me itwas like the biggest light bulb.
I was like, yes, becausepersonally, what you do, I would
want to shoot myself.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
You'd be so good at it.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
Not for me, Teenagers not for me.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
It's just not for me.
The mindset mental performance.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
I get that, but I'm not an athlete also, so I can't
relate, so it's not for me.
So your experience, you canrelate to these kids and they
can relate to you.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
Yeah, and I'm raising my own teenagers but, like all
parents, say to me oh, my kidjust doesn't listen to me.
I'm saying all the things thatyou're saying.
I said well, that's becausethey're your child, yes, and of
course they're not going tolisten to you in the way that
they're going to listen to mebecause, first of all, I am
trained to help them in this way, but also you're their parent
(09:05):
and it's just a very differentdynamic.
We know, as parents, that theyjust don't listen to us
sometimes like we want them to.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
Yeah, so talk to me about how do you deal with the
fear of making yet another let'sair quote it pivot in your
career.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
That's a great question, because I was giving
myself some coaching thismorning and one of the questions
that I know that you will askme and I'm sorry to throw it
back at you but about innerwellness, and I think that the
biggest piece for me is trustingmyself, and over the past two
years it really started withmeditation for me personally
(09:41):
Some people struggle withmeditation.
I always thought I can't do it,I can't sit still with my own
thoughts, and it was reallychallenging for me in the
beginning, but a friend of minehad given me the biggest gift of
learning transcendentalmeditation.
So I went to Katona and forfour days out of one week I sat
with this amazing woman andlearned how to meditate.
(10:01):
I literally had to learn how tosit still with my own thoughts,
which was a lot harder than Ithought it would be, but by the
end of four days I was so inlove with the process of just
sitting in silence because therewas so much that came up and
talk about fear.
It's like you're afraid andthen you sit with your own
thoughts and you know what'sbest for you.
(10:23):
Yes, and so the way that I dealwith it is through meditation
and then movement, and I have apretty solid practice.
Every morning, I sit, I have ayoga mat in my living room.
I don't have a ton of space towork out in my house, but I have
a yoga mat in the living roomyou don't need that much space
and I just wake up, I godownstairs, I have a glass of
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water, I sit down and I usuallyuse an app.
These days I was doingTranscendental Meditation, which
is 20 minutes, twice a day forquite some time, which really
got me on the train of okay, Iknow how to do this and I can
tap into that meditative spaceat anywhere, anytime, which is
what she taught me how to do.
So it's not about sitting on acushion, sitting like this, and
you know what people I thinkenvision meditation to be.
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It's just being with yourselfand learning to trust yourself
and listen to what you know youneed to do or not do.
And so for me, the fear.
Even this morning, I sat downand I was like okay, I'm, you
know it's.
I've taken some time off thissummer to be with my family and
recharge, which I desperatelyneeded, because when I am in the
work it's a lot of energyoutput.
(11:31):
You know I'm working with kidsand and I care deeply about
their mental performance, butalso just the way that they feel
about themselves, and so it's alot of energy output.
So this summer I took a lot oftime to you know, to drink in
all the good energy and be withmy family, which always restores
me.
But now I'm going back intowork mode, which can be scary,
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and I respect I mean listen, Iworked at an office for too many
years and I respect everyonethat has to do that every single
day and doesn't have a choice.
But I made the choice to do thescary thing and have my own
business.
So the meditation every morning,and then I do some movement.
So, whether it's like even downto just some downward dog yoga
movement, whatever works for you, that's what works for me Get
my body moving and set myself upfor success for the day.
(12:21):
And then you and I have talkedabout this, but I journal.
I have a five minute journal,me too, and I just do a favorite
, my favorite it's I should haveit right here to show everyone,
but it's called literally thefive minute journal and it gives
you prompts, and I'm a fan ofprompts because some days I just
get you know.
You know when you just blank, Idon't know what to write.
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So the prompts really help andI write three things I'm
grateful for.
So I practice gratitude everymorning.
That's a part of my morningroutine.
And what would make today great?
And so that is setting myselfup for that's what I do, to set
myself up for success.
I know you do too, like whatwould make today great?
Really think about it, becausetime can just slip.
(13:03):
But if you plan it and if youthink about, hey, what would
make this day, this time that Ihave, we only have today.
Yesterday's done, yep, tomorrowhasn't happened yet.
We get to create that.
So what would make today great?
And then I love to recap at theend of the night.
I was doing mine last night.
Like you know, yesterday wasgreat.
I got to spend time with mydaughter and her friends.
They're all in preseason, so Ilove the energy of where they
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are right now, because I'm not ateenage athlete anymore.
I was but it was a very longtime ago, so I'm learning from
them just as much as they'relearning from me, and so that's
how I deal with the fear whichcomes up every single day, every
day, and it's just a matter oftelling myself you know, don't
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let it take over, right, let itwalk beside you.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
What I love what you said about fear, which I think
is so important and I try totalk to my clients about fear
all the time is that the goal isnot to remove fear.
Fear exists.
Let's just acknowledge it andbe honest.
I always say any entrepreneurthat says they don't have any
degree of fear is absolutelylying to you.
There is fear.
I feel like the key with fearis to make it so.
Fear is walking beside you.
It's not like pushing you,You're not running away from it.
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It's kind of right there besideyou, because fear can be a
motivator.
Especially as an entrepreneurand as an athlete, fear can be a
motivator, I would think, tokind of step up and stretch
yourself outside your comfortzone.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
Oh, yeah, I agree with you wholeheartedly.
Fear is always there.
I like the analogy of having itwalk beside you.
And as an athlete, of course,fear can be disguised as nerves,
it can be disguised as so manythings, but at the core of it,
we all experience fear.
We're human, you know.
But if you see fear as I lovethe acronym face everything and
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rise.
Yeah, I've always, I've alwaysloved that and I think I have it
on the board behind mesomewhere.
But, as opposed to, I'm scaredand so I'm going to go into my
shell and just hide from theworld, which is easier to do in
the short term.
In the long term and, trust me,I've experienced it the first
two years of not having afull-time job and starting this
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business and not really knowingwhere I was going, I was scared,
scared, and instead of being inaction, I hid from the world
and and it was the work I lookback like and, granted, it was
COVID, so it was easier to hideback then no one was really
going anywhere.
But I'm not that person.
I never have been.
I am a very extroverted I've.
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I get fueled by other people'senergy.
This right now, this will fuelme for the rest of the day just
connecting with you, because Ido work for myself and I do work
alone, and that is a big changefrom what I did my entire life
career from when I was 21 andleft college to today or to five
years ago Not being aroundpeople.
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All day is different.
It's an adjustment and peopledon't talk about it enough,
because you do need to find ifyou're a people person like me
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and if you thrive on others'energy and being in a space
where everyone's creatingtogether which I always was to
create on your own self-doubtcreeps in.
You need to have things to do.
I love to go and work at ourlibrary, our local library here
in Greenwich, and just to bearound other people's energy
helps fuel me.
I don't even need to be on acreative team with you.
I feel your creative energyfrom over here Sounds weird, but
it's just true and I've hadhealers tell me that too.
You just need to be in thespace of other people's energy,
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because if I'm alone, I'llsometimes I mean, I've done the
work for myself, so I'm betterat knowing okay, I need to get
out of my house, I need to getout from behind this desk and be
with people.
Just go work at a coffee shopor whatever it takes to be back
in the energy of other people.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
Well, and you said something that's really
important.
It's about recognizing for youwhat helps you perform the best,
which I'm pretty sure youtranslate to your clients as
teen athletes oh, 100% Right.
So I have a question how do youtake the skills that have
helped you with your innerwellness journey and teach some
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of those to teenagers?
Speaker 1 (17:22):
That's a great question.
Slowly, slowly and I reallylike to start with the kid to
see if they've done any of thework for themselves.
Most of them have not, which Idon't expect them to.
They're young.
I would have given my left legto have some of the tools that I
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have now as an athlete incollege, especially In high
school.
In my mind and in this world now, where the kids are in high
school which is why I chose towork with teenage athletes
specifically is really where wewere when I was playing in
college 25 years ago.
The pressure is so much morethan it ever was.
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Getting into college is so muchharder, you know, because you
have a kid that's been tocollege.
Into college is so much harder,you know, because you have a
kid that's been to college.
Just, they have a lot more thatis weighing on them, and so
that's why I feel so deeplyabout working with teenage
athletes because I want them tofeel, you know, really secure in
themselves as an athlete and asa person stepping into this
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next phase of life, which iscollege, which is where they'll
eventually go.
So I start off by asking themif they've done any breath work,
any meditation, anyvisualization, anything that is
more focused on their mentalperformance.
And then I share some videoswith some of my clients about
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professional athletes that usethese tools all the time.
Tennis players share a lotabout the mental performance
work that they do because it'ssuch an individual sport and
it's really at that point in thegame you know 80% mental.
Everyone's at the same place.
Physically it's all about whatseparates the good from the
great and the champions from thenon-champions is how they
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manage their mental state.
Like, if you make a mistake outthere, what happens?
Does it destroy you, yes, or doyou know how to flip that
switch and get back to beingyour best self?
It's hard, very hard, but it'scompletely possible.
It just takes practice, likeany other habit, like meditation
.
For me it was hard in thebeginning but with practice it's
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become just.
It's not even a question, Ijust can do it, and that's how I
feel about this mentalperformance for kids.
So that's kind of how Iapproach it, slowly and with
care, and I put a lot of loveinto it because I really do love
what I do.
Yes, do the kids have homeworkthat you give them?
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Yes and no?
I mean it's a choice I givethem.
It depends on the client andwhat sport they're playing and
where they are in their sport,what year they are in high
school.
But I do personalizevisualizations with some of my
kids, with most of them, and Ido give them breathing
techniques and it's up to them.
So you know if they want to do,if they do the work again, just
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like anything.
It's like school.
Hey, if you study for the test,you're going to do really well
on the test.
It's pretty cut and dry.
If you practice the breathingthat I'm teaching you very
simple things.
To start, you know I have tostart with the basics.
Box breathing is something thatI teach first.
It's a very basic, easy tool.
It's four seconds in.
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You hold for four seconds, youexhale for four seconds, you
hold for four seconds like a boxand I have them practice that
every single day until we meetthe next week.
If they practice it, then theywill get better.
If they don't, then it's.
You know, it's on them, whichmost of these kids I mean.
I haven't had one client thathasn't done the work for
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themselves because they know howit makes them feel and it's a
pretty immediate thing.
I mean, if you do box breathingfor a week.
You start to think about yourbreathing when you're out
performing.
You know, when you're out thereon the field or the court or
the ice, you start to thinkabout your breath because you've
been practicing it.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
So where does confidence play in this?
Now, I've never been an athlete, it's not my thing.
No, I like I would have beenterrible, terrible.
I played volleyball in juniorhigh school because they let
anyone on the team and I wasabsolutely terrible.
I only did it for one year.
I was terrible.
Were you ever a dancer?
I danced for a little whilewhen I was young, but then
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stopped.
I love that.
So, unlike my daughter, who istotally so coordinated and so
good that is not my thing, Ilove watching her.
That is not my thing.
I love watching her.
That is not my thing, but Ifeel like confidence is probably
something that teenagers reallystruggle with because they're
trying to figure out who theyare in their universe as it is,
as it stands, whereas adults westruggle with confidence and we
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already have all this history.
So where does confidence playin the whole mindset part of an
athlete as a teenager?
Speaker 1 (22:10):
Another great question.
I you know, confidence in highschool.
It's such a challenging thingbecause, to your point, it's the
hardest time in life, I believe, as, looking back on my teenage
self, looking at pictures, Ihave my 30th high school reunion
coming up, so I've been lookingat all of these old pictures
like God, how did we get throughthat?
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But we didn't have social media.
And so that with the additionof social media in our culture,
it's just added this layer, thisthick layer that can really
make or break a kid's confidencein themselves and
self-acceptance and self-loveand all those things, because
there's constant comparison.
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You're not just comparingyourself to your peers, but
you're comparing yourself topeers all over the world, and
you know thinking that you needto.
You know, use collagen as a14-year-old to look beautiful
when their skin is perfectalready as it is.
You know, back in the day wewere like scrubbing apricot,
like you know, using aluminumfoil with oil to get sun, and
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now we know all that's bad forus, but we didn't have this tool
that they have, which, whenused for good, can be wonderful
social media but when used inthe way that they use it and
they communicate with it, whichis great, but again, the
comparison syndrome can beheightened.
So confidence is somethingthat's built and I think we're
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all born confident, but then theworld kind of tries to shrink
us.
And so by doing all of the workthat I do with these kids and
teaching them the tools to usewhile they're practicing but
also, you know, it doesn't justgo for sport, it translates to
everything that they're doingyou have a big test to take.
You're going to use thebreathwork, you're going to use
the visualization and you're notgoing to go and visualize
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having everything be perfect.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
Oh, that's a good point.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
You have to visualize the reality of how life is.
So you know we get on a podcast.
I did some visualization thismorning because I just have done
this before.
I'm comfortable with it.
I know you, I'm comfortablewith you, but you have to expect
that some things like yourmicrophone not working or your
light going out in the middle ofrecording it's real life.
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But then how do you workthrough those little bumps in
the road?
How do you fix them and that'sall.
Again back to building thehabits that increase your
confidence.
So if you know that you feelgood about yourself when you're
running faster just to use arandom example as an athlete
then you know that if you workon your running, it's going to
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build your confidence.
So I work with them on focusingon what they can control yes,
and focusing on what they'rereally good at.
Because a lot of kids will sayand adults too, I'm just not
good at that, I'm not good at it.
Well, you don't know unless youtry.
And if you've tried and youknow to your point, I was never
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an athlete, you didn't say Iwasn't good at it, you just said
I never was, and I respect that.
If you were to say, oh, I wasjust the worst at everything,
but I didn't try.
Then of course you have noconfidence because you didn't
try.
But confidence also is builtwith effort and trying and
knowing what works and whatdoesn't.
So I just think it's built overtime and it's built through
habits and practicing saidhabits.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
Which is a really important lesson, though,
because you're teaching themreally young that confidence is
not a I have it or I don't haveit.
You're teaching them that it'sa skill and something that they
can expand on and grow andbecome if they don't feel like
they're confident.
So I think that's such animportant point.
You're making it so differentthan just either I have talent
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or I don't have talent, likegetting them to move away from
the black and white world andrecognize that everything can be
worked on and improved if theywant to.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
And also that you know you might not be the best
at your sport.
You might not, but all that youhave to be is your best.
Because if you are your bestthen you're contributing to the
greater good.
But if you're just sitting backand say I'm just not the best,
therefore there's no spot for me, or I'm never going to make it
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Like okay, where do you reallysee yourself going?
And if that's your goal, thenlet's get you there.
And if we figure out that it'simpossible to get you there like
maybe you won't be the besttennis player in the world.
I was talking about thisyesterday with friends with the
Olympics and someone said youknow, I find it so funny when
Olympians someone would say ohwell, I only got third place.
(26:51):
You got third place out of howmany Billions of people?
that made it to the Olympics inyour sport.
That is something to becelebrated.
If you wanted first place, Iget it.
You're sad you didn't get firstplace, but you got third place
out of billions of people thatcould have otherwise been there
but didn't do the work to getthere, you know.
(27:15):
Yes, so, and confidence iseverything.
People have always speculatedthat, oh, you're so out, you're
so extroverted, you're soconfident.
You've always been confident.
I am a confident person bynature, but I don't just like
wake up feeling confident everysingle day.
I have to do things that thatmake me feel confident, like
when I'm in the work.
Of the work that I'm doing, itmakes me feel good because I'm
making an impact on otherpeople's lives.
That gives me confidence.
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When I see a kid actuallytransforming themselves with my
guidance, that gives me theconfidence to know I am just
going to keep going because thisis making a difference.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
As an adult, yes, it does, and we're going to come
back to confidence because we'regoing to talk about your
podcast in a minute.
But I want to talk aboutsomething else.
Do you help kids, and I'm justpersonally curious Do you make
them go through visualizationthat relates to the?
I don't want to call themfailures, but the situations
that don't turn out the way theywant?
Speaker 1 (28:30):
no-transcript when they make the team and then
suddenly they get benched.
This has happened a number oftimes.
So they make the team andthey're so excited and their
parents are excited, everyone'sexcited for them.
And this is where ego comesinto play, because we all have
it, but when it gets bruised alittle bit it can be hard to
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recover from unless you have thetools and what's to recover.
So I've had this happen anumber of times this year where
a kid that I've worked with hasmade a team and then been very
excited about playing andstarting and you know, being a
part of this bigger thing, andthen benched.
No explanation, yeah, nocommunication from the coach.
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Painful, painful, and Iunderstand that pain.
I really do.
I lived it.
I mean I was benched.
I was the captain, co-captain mysenior year of my lacrosse team
, benched in a state final gamethat we were losing, and I can
viscerally remember how thatfelt for me as like one of the
top scoring players on the team.
(29:36):
Why are you benching me?
No communication from the coach.
She just that was her choice.
She probably didn't like meback then and I definitely
resented her for that, but itwas hard.
It was really hard and I couldhave easily gone into the
mindset of you know what?
I'm just not good at thisanymore.
My coach isn't playing me.
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I'm not good.
Maybe I shouldn't play incollege which I've also seen
happen a number of times, whichbreaks my heart in half, because
it is a choice to play incollege.
But if you get in and you'rerecruited to play and you have
that opportunity, I alwaysencourage kids to please take
that opportunity because it's aonce-in-a-lifetime experience.
I'm so grateful for theexperience I had in college.
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I had an amazing coach.
A lot of the reason why I do thework that I do now is because
of that senior year experienceand how that felt and I didn't
have the tools.
My poor parents were like oh,what do we do?
But yes, it happens a lot andagain it's back to just weekly
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habit building and remindingthem of their great.
What are you great at?
And it's not all about pattingeveryone on the back.
Great, you know you get atrophy.
It's not about that.
Like, you are going to bebenched, you are going to lose
some games, it is going to hurt.
That's a part of life.
Yes, life is not about winningall the time.
And if someone says that to you, you can't believe them because
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it's not true.
But when you do win, youcelebrate those wins and you
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remember what that feels like,like I do, from my college days.
We won a lot, we played hard,we were supported.
It was hard, you know we had topractice hard and I did not
like those practices, but I knewthat if I would practice hard
that I would play well in thegames and you know.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
Just to circle back to your question, getting the
kids to remember every week likeOK, here's where you are today
and it's not the end of theworld, but let's work on what we
can control that you and I havebeen working on, you know, for
the last five plus years,because we have similar paths of
(31:52):
leaving corporate America andbecoming entrepreneurs, and I'm
like this is just this is justlife skill stuff, and so so much
of what you can teach theseyoung adults they can carry in,
whether they stay being anathlete or not.
Your gift and your uniquenessis that you can connect with
them as an athlete and in thatspace that's why I chose this
niche.
Speaker 1 (32:12):
You know, as a marketer by trade, I also.
It was challenging for me tolike.
Initially I was like, oh, Ijust want to help all athletes.
But I had my coach was like no,no, no, we're going to focus
and hone in on where you canreally make the most impact, and
that happened to be with highschool athletes.
But you know who knows whereI'm going to go from here.
(32:35):
I was listening to a podcast.
I'm a big podcast listener.
I love your podcast.
I listen to it.
I listen to a number ofdifferent podcasts, but I was
listening to one about justabout living in alignment with
your career and who you are as aperson, and I talked about
creating a vision, which everyyear, like this is.
This is a little mini visionboard I did for 2025.
(32:55):
I've had a word of the yearevery year.
This year is consistency andbecause it's something that has
always challenged me, but I knowthat when I'm consistent with
my morning routines, with youknow, being good to myself and
choosing healthy choices, allthe things that that I'm the
better version of me and andalso that it was about creating
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a vision and and suspending thehow.
So for me, I've I get stucksometimes in how am I going to
do that?
How am I going to create that?
But what she said was when youhave a vision that you don't
know how you're going to getthere, but you have to have that
big, crazy vision in order tolive into it.
(33:42):
But if you have a plan, thenyou're going to execute on it.
But that's a plan, it's not avision.
With a plan, you know howyou're going to get there.
There are steps.
You follow steps, but with avision, suspend the how.
And I really took that lessonand I'm running with it.
I wrote it in my journal thismorning Don't worry about how
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I'm going to get there.
Who knows where this is goingto go.
Just focused on today and mynext client kid that I work with
and alleviating some of thestress that these parents are
feeling, which you know.
The child, the student athlete,is my client, but the parent,
you know they're the firstpeople that I work with I have.
(34:24):
I really care about meetingthem, getting to know them,
having them know me a little bit, and then they trust that their
kids are going to manage ourrelationship.
But it's important to me forthem to know what.
I'm here to help their kidswith.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (34:40):
Because most parents don't come to me when I use the
analogy of the like a spigotthat's trickling water.
Yes, they don't usually comewhen it's trickling.
They usually come when, like,it's a fire hose that's
trickling water.
Yes, they don't usually comewhen it's trickling.
They usually come when it's afire hose that's open.
Of course Right, yes, a firehydrant on the side of the road
Like help?
Yes, we don't know what to do.
They're depressed and they wantto quit their sport, but
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they're the best in our town.
Help.
Speaker 2 (35:06):
Which is a rough place as a parent and a rough
place as a kid.
Speaker 1 (35:09):
So it's the hardest as a parent.
Speaker 2 (35:10):
How do your clients find you?
Speaker 1 (35:14):
Most have found me either on social media, on
Instagram mostly, I'm doing mybest to keep up with TikTok, but
it's just too fast, it's a lot.
Speaker 2 (35:22):
You have to post.
All the time I was on somethingthat said you have to post
three times a day.
No, that is so much content,that's crazy.
Speaker 1 (35:29):
It's too much content , even once a day is so hard to
do.
Well and content as anentrepreneur is.
It's like such a push-pull forme.
A lot of people have found mevia Instagram, Okay, and most
have found me word of mouth.
So you know, in our neck of thewoods in Fairfield County,
Connecticut, a lot of kids areplaying very high level sport
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and parents are on the sidelines.
I am one of those parents forsome sports my kids play and I
also just am a people person.
So I have a lot of friends whoare very supportive of me and
the work that I'm doing, and soword of mouth, but Instagram has
been a great driver of businessfor me and I'm doing my best to
keep up with the said content.
Speaker 2 (36:13):
But you're doing a really good job and your content
.
I will tell you just for peopleI know, you personally
struggled with some of yourcontent in the beginning and you
struggled with beingcomfortable because it is no
matter how confident you are andhow good you are at your job,
for very often for entrepreneursit's really hard to put your
face out there on social mediaand to have to watch yourself
(36:34):
and listen to yourself.
And even if you're on a podcast, it's kind of not about you,
it's about somebody else, it'snot about me but then it's it
really is about people gettingto know me and trust.
Speaker 1 (36:46):
It's.
It's building trust.
And so when I put the ego inthe backseat, it's not about me
Like I don't.
Really I did my best.
This summer we have a camp inthe Adirondacks that's off the
grid, and so I'm mostly when I'mwith my family, not on
electronics, which is both verychallenging for me, especially
the first few days, but it's soliberating and what I can do is
(37:09):
create content, which I didcreate a lot of content, because
the phone doesn't have anythingincoming so I can just record,
yes, and it freed me up so muchto really share it from a very
authentic place and that's youknow I'm.
I'm a pretty authentic person.
I like I am who I am, like you,what you see is what you get
kind of thing person.
(37:31):
I like I am who I am, like you,what you see is what you get,
kind of thing.
So promoting myself was veryhard in the beginning because
I've always promoted otherpeople.
You know, as a marketer,promoting other people and other
brands was easy for me and fun,yes, it is.
But promoting myself andselling my services was very
challenging and I know it's verychallenging for so many people.
I had a friend ask me thismorning can you help me with my
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social media strategy, because Idon't like promoting for myself
.
I said I get it and she's anartist and most artists also are
very challenged by listen.
I just want to do my art.
I'm like, yes, but in order todo your art, you need to sell
some art so that you can buymore supplies and it's, you know
, it's a cycle, just like inorder to keep learning, which
I'm very committed to continuingmy education in this space.
(38:15):
There's so much to learn sports,psychology, mindset, and I mean
I just am starting anothercourse in October.
I really do love continuededucation in space and I know
you do too.
You want to get better.
I want to get better, I want tobe of more service to these
kids, and the only way to dothat is to learn more and
practice.
Speaker 2 (38:35):
Obviously You're setting a good example to the
kids that school is not justright here, right now, and so
you know a lot of times it's youknow, okay, they're in high
school and then they're incollege, and then they have to
get a job and it's like no, no,no.
Life is about continuallylearning, continually working on
yourself.
(38:55):
Continue to improve, and if youcan instill that in these young
athletes about the need tostill keep learning and get
better and improving, just as ahuman being, that's a gift.
Speaker 1 (39:03):
It's, it really is.
I agree wholeheartedly.
And sometimes I look at my kidsI'm like you're so lucky to be
on such a rigorous schedule andwhat I would give to be back in
school.
And then they look at me likewhat, are you crazy?
It's so hard and it is, but wedid it.
I went through school, I wentthrough college and I've done a
lot of continuing education inmy life, in my career, for
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marketing especially.
I went into marketing notknowing anything really about
marketing.
I knew I was a good salesperson.
I had run businesses in thepast, so it was.
You know, we were like puttingthe wheels on the plane as it
was taking off, kind of thing.
When it comes toentrepreneurship and building
businesses, which is how I feelevery day now, every day, every
day is a learning journey, everysingle day.
Speaker 2 (39:48):
So let me ask you about your kids.
How old are your kids?
Speaker 1 (39:50):
is learning journey Every single day.
So let me ask you about yourkids.
How old are your kids?
My daughter Lily is 14 and ahalf and my son Owen is 13.
Speaker 2 (39:56):
Okay, yeah, so rising ninth grade which is crazy and
rising seventh grade highschooler.
That's crazy, it just goesreally fast.
Do you coach them on mindsetand, if so, how does that go
down?
Because you're a mom, I do.
Speaker 1 (40:09):
I do, but I'm not pushy about it.
I do my best to not be pushyabout it because I respect their
memories, but I also respectthat they don't want to hear it
from me all the time.
But I will give you an example.
We took the kids.
We were so lucky to go on anamazing vacation with my family,
my entire family, my parents,my sister, brother, their
families and my husband and Ipeeled off, for we were out in
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Utah for a week and we peeledoff to Arizona, take the kids to
the Grand Canyon.
My husband's a teacher and hisdad was a professor of geology
his whole career.
So my husband spent a lot oftime in the Grand Canyon.
I had never been.
Our kids had never been outWest.
So it was a really special timefor us.
And let me tell you, for anyonethat's hiked the Grand Canyon
you know I was first of all,you're just, your stomach is on
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the ground.
It's so overwhelminglybeautiful.
Have you been?
Yes, I have.
Okay, it's just a veryspiritual experience.
It's like wow, we are so tinyand this is a huge hole in the
earth.
Like wow, we are so tiny andthis is a huge hole in the earth
.
But we got up at 4.30 in themorning.
We hiked the canyon from 5 amto noon and there were fires all
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across the North Rim, so wecould only hike the South Rim.
There was only one trail open,but we were able to go all the
way down to the bottom and allthe way back up, and I was
giving them a little bit ofcoaching.
I was the one that struggledthe most, I'll be honest.
Yes, eat humble pie.
I struggled the most.
The three of them were like canwe just meet you at the top?
I mean, I was huffing andpuffing and I was also carrying
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a lot of the water and Gatorade,of course, snacks.
Speaker 2 (41:45):
Of course.
Speaker 1 (41:46):
The mom stuff, the mom stuff.
But I did say to them at onepoint it's all switchbacks
coming up, so you're hikingsheer.
It's very steep and you'regoing back and forth, and back
and forth and it's very easy tolook at the top and think we're
never going to make it.
This is so hard.
Yes, there's no way we're goingto make it back.
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And how did we get?
Why did we go all the way downhere?
Speaker 2 (42:09):
Why are we doing this ?
Why did we keep walking?
Why did we turn around and go?
Speaker 1 (42:13):
back.
This hurts.
And then I said to them at onepoint you know, don't look at
the end goal, just look at thecorner in front of us and think
about each and every step thatyou're taking.
Sing a song in your head, dowhatever you need to do to get
you from here to the next spotof shade.
We use shade as like littleshort-term goals, because the
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sun gets very hot and once thesun was up, you know, it's like
over a hundred degrees in thesummer, gets very hot, but those
pockets of shade are everything.
So we would say, I would say tothem let's just focus on
getting to the next pocket ofshade.
And I maybe said it once ortwice, I didn't, even though
they'll say oh, mom, kept sayingthere's only a mile left.
There's only a mile left, whichI really thought there was when
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we still had around two milesleft.
So I said only a mile.
And they were like stop lyingto us.
But I genuinely thought that.
So it really made me happybecause at one point my daughter
turned around and my kids arein great shape and I am too.
It was just I was strugglingthat day.
But she turned around and saidto me Mom, I'm using your
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mindset trick and they reallywork.
And I was like, oh, Proud mamamoment.
Speaker 2 (43:24):
It was a really proud moment.
Speaker 1 (43:26):
And then I said to them okay, you guys can go ahead
without me, I'll meet you atthe top.
I met some really nice peoplewho were also struggling.
I didn't train enough and thiswas in my I was mindset,
coaching myself the entire wayup, yes, and I was telling
myself you can do this, you cando hard things, just one step at
a time, like everything that Iuse to coach kids.
(43:49):
And then some I was coachingmyself because it was the
biggest physical challenge I'vehad in a really long time.
And I will say and I haven'tsaid this out loud before but
being a former athlete and nowdoing the work that I do, which
is such a privilege to do, but Imiss being an athlete so badly.
And like my body doesn't.
It can't do what it did backthen, obviously Right.
(44:12):
And I have a small injury rightnow which in my knee, which
really doesn't add to thechallenge of hiking or anything
that.
Speaker 2 (44:21):
I'm used to doing.
Speaker 1 (44:24):
But I miss it.
I miss being in the action ofit all.
And you know, someone said tome once oh how can you coach the
kids when you don't know whatit feels like?
I was like well, of course Iknow what it feels like, I
experienced all of it.
It may have been a long timeago, but it feels like it was
yesterday.
Of course, those emotions arestill there, very visceral.
So, yeah, that was a recentexample coaching my own kids and
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them actually listening,because I wasn't giving too much
.
I was just like, just focus onwhere you are right now and that
next little bit not.
Oh my God, it's like building abusiness you don't think about.
Oh well, I have to.
You know, I'm going to have apodcast and I'm going to have 61
episodes.
Speaker 2 (45:07):
No yeah.
Speaker 1 (45:08):
No, you can't.
Speaker 2 (45:08):
It's too monumental.
It has to be baby step, babystep, baby step to absolutely
everything, all right.
So, speaking of the podcast,let's talk about your podcast,
because you are relaunching yourpodcast, and that's actually
how I met you in the first placewas.
I heard about your podcast andI reached out to you because I
wanted to be a guest on yourshow and you were right, I was
never a guest on your show.
Speaker 1 (45:27):
Well, you will be, because you stopped, I and you
were right, I was never a gueston your show.
Speaker 2 (45:29):
Well you will be Because you stopped I think you
had stopped recording and wewent and we met for lunch one
day and we just started gabbingand I was like, oh my goodness,
we have so much in common Justin our life path and our journey
and our vision of where we are.
And then breathwork we both hadthe same breathwork coach.
Speaker 1 (45:57):
And so our paths just keep kind of crossing, crossing
.
We need to give a shout out tojen, because jen for breathwork,
oh my goodness, breathworkchanged my life.
That was the second phase of uh, of healing and elevating.
Was breathwork first.
It was meditation, yeah, and Iknow that for you too, yeah, um,
and jen is incredible, um, andI continue and I will forever to
do breathwork with her, me tooyeah, no, like it's like it gets
ingrained in who you are and itis one of the greatest gifts
once you figure out how to do it, and it really is a tool that I
use for every athlete that Iwork with.
Speaker 2 (46:18):
It's so important, yes, and every professional
athlete a hundred percent isdoing it which does help a
little bit with teenagers wherethey want to feel like the pros
are doing.
You know that they can do whatthe pros are doing when, like,
if a pro athlete isn't doing it,then it's not really as cool.
Speaker 1 (46:33):
Oh, and they're all.
Everyone at the top is you haveto?
Speaker 2 (46:38):
Very, because they figured out nervous system
regulation.
It's so important they figuredit out.
Speaker 1 (46:42):
So important, and it's the best tool.
Speaker 2 (46:44):
It is Okay, so let's talk about your podcast.
Speaker 1 (46:47):
So I launched.
It's called Constantly Curious,and initially, when I launched
it two years ago two and a halfyears ago I was.
The impetus behind it was thatI was feeling lonely as an
entrepreneur and I wanted toconnect with like-minded people
who were doing the same kinds ofthing that I was and I also
have done a lot of voiceoverwork in my career and I just
(47:10):
love talking with people andlearning about people, and I
wanted to share inspiringstories.
So initially I launched it.
I have 16 episodes, I believe,that are still on Spotify and
Apple Podcasts and then I pausedlast year, the beginning of
last year.
I had to take a pause because Iwas focused on what I'm doing
(47:32):
now and I needed to take all ofuse, all of my good energy, to
build the website and start tomarket and get clients, all the
things.
And then I co-hosted a localpodcast for a little while
called Building Greenwich, whichI really loved, but it wasn't
aligned with where I'm going inmy career, and so I then,
through breathwork, actuallylearned this is not aligned
(47:55):
right now.
That word kept coming up Likeit's not aligned with what I'm
doing as a coach for these kids,and so I pressed pause on
everything podcast related.
A year ago now it was lastAugust and then Constantly
Curious, has kept coming up forme.
I miss it and I can't wait toget back to it.
(48:15):
Um, and I'm I'm kind ofswitching gears on the format.
So I'm going to do more shortform episodes because I want for
like I've had parents reach outto me and say, oh, are there
any episodes that my kid canlisten to before they start
working with you?
And so I'm going to be buildingout a YouTube channel and on
Spotify and Apple, more shortform, like five to 12 minute
(48:36):
episodes on specific topics.
But it's not just going to beabout mental performance, it's
also going to be life andparenting, and it will always
circle around the work that I do, because that's who I am.
But I am constantly curious youare, and it just so happens to
be that I'm constantly curiousabout mental performance.
(48:56):
But it ties into everythingthat I do in my life as a parent
, as a spouse, as a friend, as adaughter, as a sister.
It's all tied.
So I am going to be doing soloepisodes and then eventually,
once I've got the ball rollingagain, we'll interview amazing
humans like yourself, and I'vemet some incredible people along
(49:19):
this journey already in thepast nine months whom I can't
wait to share their stories.
So there's a lot to come.
Speaker 2 (49:26):
It's exciting and now that I've said it out loud, it
has to happen, it has to happen.
So I want to talk about twothings that I just want to point
out to the listeners, twothings that you said that I
think are really important.
And one is and I don't knowthat you know that you use these
words, but maybe you do, beinga mindset coach, you maybe know
it you just said something thepodcast wasn't aligned right now
(49:50):
.
And then you said you decidedto take a pause on the podcast.
And what's so important aboutboth of the way that you phrase
that and you framed that is itwasn't about saying the podcast
is never happening or I can't bea podcaster.
It was about saying, for righthere, right now, it just doesn't
(50:10):
align.
But now all of a sudden it'scome back and it's going to
twist a little bit.
And I bring this up because alot of times, as an entrepreneur
and even as an athlete and thisapplies to everybody we try to
do so many things and we want tobe excellent at everything, and
sometimes you have to take somestuff off your plate to really
really focus for a little bit.
And it's not to say some stuffoff your plate, to really,
(50:30):
really focus for a little bit,and it's not to say those things
can't come back, they can comeback.
But just really hone in andreally focus for a little bit
and then, when your plate is alittle bit lighter, then you can
add those other things.
So thank you for phrasing itthat way.
Speaker 1 (50:46):
Thank you for recapping that and reminding me
that.
I said that because I have awhiteboard in this office where
I wrote down the things.
I kind of made a list, you know, with a line down the middle
what is working and what's notworking.
Yes, and for right now, where Iam in my career, you know, I'm
surrounded by people that go tothe same job every day and
(51:08):
they're very they're settled intheir careers and I'm not and
it's a challenge for me and it'salso the ego caring about what
other people think, which I do alot of work on not caring.
But when I stopped doing thepodcast, people were like, where
is it?
Where is it?
And for a little while I waslike, oh gosh, I'm letting
people down, but at the end ofthe day I was really letting
(51:30):
myself down.
So I was like, oh gosh, I'mletting people down, but at the
end of the day I was reallyletting myself down.
So to your point, of course itcan come back, and who cares
what other people think of whereyou are in your career, in your
life journey?
All that matters really is you,for you, what you're doing.
So the what works and whatdoesn't work list was a really
good reminder and I recommendeveryone do it if you're feeling
(51:50):
like, oh my gosh, how am I evergoing to get there?
How am I going to make thatwork?
There are a lot of things thatI needed to sacrifice and most
of it was social.
I love being social with peopleand I love going on walks or
going to parties, but right nowI can't do that.
Right now, going on walks Iwill make time for, depending on
(52:12):
whom I'm walking with.
Yes, but I'm a walker now.
But spending time socializinglike I got invited to a birthday
party on Saturday night and Iwas exhausted and I had a big
day on Sunday and I just said no, and there's so much power.
Speaker 2 (52:28):
So much power in saying no, two little letters,
so much power.
Speaker 1 (52:31):
Which I've.
It's taken me a long time tolearn and I'm still learning
every day.
But right now, especially inthis season of my life and I
like to see things in seasonsand we're lucky enough to live
in Southern Connecticut where wedo experience all four seasons
yes, it like really helps propelyou through the year.
It's we're going into the fallseason.
It's really exciting.
It really helps propel youthrough the year.
We're going into the fallseason.
(52:51):
It's really exciting.
It's a beautiful time of yearbut can also be a very social
time of year.
My kids are going back toschool, there are parent socials
, there's this, there's that.
So, just knowing when to sayyes and when to say no, and
planning it, I have a big papercalendar like an old school 1995
desk calendar.
It's so nerdy, but I needeverything to be on paper.
(53:13):
Everything's digital too.
You got to do what works for you, but I like being able to look
ahead.
Oh, in three weeks from now, Ihave three things that week.
Okay, well, in the week beforeI'm going to need to restore
because that's going to be a lotof energy out.
You know we talked about energyin and energy out in the
beginning.
Yes, a lot of what you do withthe podcast.
(53:33):
It's a lot of energy that goesinto creating a podcast.
Speaker 2 (53:36):
You know it's not like.
Speaker 1 (53:37):
You just show up on a mic looking beautiful and do
what you do every day.
You practice, you prepare yousend me questions.
There's research, there'sresearch.
Yeah, you don't just show up.
So I'm excited for this nextseason and willing to sacrifice
these things, because what Iwant in building of my career is
something that I have alwayswanted.
(53:59):
It's just actually happeningnow, right.
Speaker 2 (54:02):
And doing the work again.
Okay, so before we run out oftime, I have one last question
for you.
I always ask all my guests ifthere's a book that they would
like to recommend that hasimpacted them either personally
or professionally.
So what book would you like torecommend?
Speaker 1 (54:16):
Well, I'm so excited that you asked this and that you
let me know ahead of time,because there are so many great
books.
There are, but this one.
It's called Journey to theHeart.
The author is Melody Beatty andit's daily meditations on the
path to freeing your soul.
But I was gifted this bookthree years ago and it's like
(54:38):
every day it's got a littlepassage, passage.
What's today, august 19th?
I think so.
Yep, august 19th yes so todayhow appropriate your destiny is
now.
And she just, it's a littleparagraph and at the end it has
a motivational thing like letyourself live and be in each
moment, with each person,learning each lesson along the
(55:01):
way.
Destiny isn't someplace we go,destiny is where we are.
So I've had it by my bedsidefor three years and I read it
every single day religiously forthe first year that I had it
and then in year two I would hadit by my bedside for three
years and I read it every singleday religiously for the first
year that I had it and then inyear two I would read it a
couple of times a week.
And now in year three, it'slike I got all the lessons and
now I touch base with it.
Like, actually I'm so gratefulthat I just read that passage
(55:22):
because it resonated.
It does, but it's a great book.
Again, journey to the Heart,melody Beattie.
She has another book too, butit helped me and I've sent it as
a gift to so many friends thatthey have said the same, like,
wow, I just keep this by mybedside and it's just a good
reminder it is Of how lucky weare to be here.
Yes, again, gratitude.
Speaker 2 (55:43):
Yes, and her story is inspiring, so I have it as well
.
Speaker 1 (55:47):
I have the book, thanks to you, so you told me
about the book, and so Iactually yeah, and her story is
inspiring.
Her story is super inspiring.
She's a storyteller.
Speaker 2 (55:53):
Yes, and I have that right next to where I sit and
journal and I look at it notevery day, but I always find.
What I think is so cool aboutit is that I always find when I
do look at it, the message is soappropriate.
So, whatever makes me look atit that day, the yet.
So whatever makes me look at itthat day, the message is really
meant to resonate for that day.
Speaker 1 (56:17):
Me too, and I do want to add you and I both have a
gratitude practice, and that'ssomething that I also teach the
kids.
But writing down, like gettingit out of your head and onto
paper, what you're grateful for,because there's so much to be
grateful for in this world yes,it sets your brain up to see the
good every day, 100%.
And not in a cheesy way, notlike, oh, everything's great all
the time.
It's not, but when you are setup to think positively in the
(56:39):
beginning of every day, itreally does help you get through
the day with the light that youneed to see the good.
Couldn't agree more.
Speaker 2 (56:50):
I just love it.
And I'm with you.
I have gratitude every morning.
It's the way to go and I can'tbelieve I wasn't doing it my
whole life.
Speaker 1 (56:56):
I know I thought I was, but you know I'm always
grateful, but saying it andwriting it down has just shifted
things for me.
I can't explain it, me too, butI just see everything as
possible that I maybe didn't seeas totally possible before.
But to what you said before,it's baby steps, baby steps.
Exactly this is a baby step forme, so thank you.
Speaker 2 (57:20):
I love, I love.
Thank you so much for spendingso much time with me.
I am so inspired and empoweredby what you're doing to help
teenage athletes.
Teenagers just need all thehelp, and you're teaching them
such critical skills to helpthem be better athletes, but
also to be better human beings.
So you are doing some reallypowerful work, and I'm going to
link everything in the shownotes so people can reach out to
(57:40):
you.
I encourage everyone, even ifyou don't have a teenage athlete
, follow Lindsay on Instagram,because so much of what you post
about and talk about applies toadults too.
Speaker 1 (57:49):
So this will motivate me to keep posting and thank
you yeah, it's official, lindsayPotter and thanks for linking
everything I will.
I feel the same way about you,and you know it.
I am always inspired, andthat's the beauty of being an
entrepreneur.
You do start to surroundyourself with people that lift
you up, people that have been inthe space where you want to go,
and people that support you,you know, and also will call you
(58:10):
out when you're doing thingsyou shouldn't be doing.
Speaker 2 (58:13):
Don't waste your time .
Don't waste your time, so thankyou so much.
Speaker 1 (58:17):
It's always a joy talking to you and I.
This is really motivating me toget back on the podcast train,
so thank you.
Speaker 2 (58:24):
You are welcome, and we're going to launch this for
back to school because thetiming is perfect.
That's when all the athletesreally need as much help as
possible, so we will launch thisfor back to school.
So welcome back to schooleverybody.
Speaker 1 (58:33):
Thank you, lindsay.
Have a beautiful week.
Okay, talk soon.
Speaker 2 (58:37):
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My kids as well are in preseason tryouts this week
and I can feel the nerves comingoff of these kids like just
emanating.
But like I say to them everytime they ask for advice, you
just have to be in it likeanything in life.
You know, of course, the moreyou think about it, the more the
nerves build, the more fearbuilds.
As long as you're in the action, it just all dissipates.
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You just do your best andyou're in the action.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
it just all dissipates.
You just do your best andyou're off to the races.
Welcome to the House of Germarpodcast, where wellness starts
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Welcome to the House of Jermarpodcast, where wellness starts
within.
I'm your host, jean Collins,and today's guest.
I am so honored to have LindsayPotter here.
She is a personal friend.
This is her second time on theshow and she has just gone
(01:13):
through such an incredibletransformation journey since she
was on the show over a year agoand I am so excited to have her
back.
So this folks is going to feela little like having a cup of
tea with two friends.
So welcome, lindsay, back tothe show.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
Cheers.
It's so great to be back and Ican't believe it was a year ago.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
It was over a year ago you were like episode five,
and I think this will be episode61.
Oh, I'm so proud of you.
Thank you, yes, and we haven'ttalked in a while.
So this is going to feel alittle like catch up folks.
But Lindsay is so cool and shedoes something cozy, Get cozy
folks.
And she has a podcast.
She's relaunching a podcast.
So much to talk about.
But just so you know a littlebit about who Lindsay is, I'll
(01:52):
put her whole bio in the shownotes, but just to give you an
idea of what makes Lindsay sounique and I am so excited to
talk about how she got into this.
So she is a mindset and mentalperformance coach for teen
athletes and it is back toschool time.
This is her peak season.
This is when everyone shouldrun and reach out to Lindsay,
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
It's so great.
It really is.
My kids as well are inpreseason tryouts this week and
I can feel the nerves coming offof these kids just emanating.
But like I say to them everytime they ask for advice, you
just have to be in it, likeanything in life, you know, of
course, the more you think aboutit, the more you the nerves
(02:34):
build, the more fear builds.
As long as you're in the action, it just all dissipates.
You just do your best andyou're off to the races, which
is so true.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
All right.
So, people who haven't seen youon episode five I want to say
five or six let's step backwardsa little bit, because this was
not always your calling and evensince you were a guest last
time, your evolution to findingyour niche and your true amazing
purpose has been incredible.
So let's take a step back, giveus a little bit of background
about your career and how youjust even got into the mindset
(03:05):
coaching space in the firstplace.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
Okay, great question.
And yes, so much has changed inthe past year.
So I am.
I was, by trade, a marketer.
I was in marketing for about 10years, most of my 30s.
Now I'm in my late 40s, but mycareer in marketing I kind of
fell backwards into it.
I was very privileged to behead of marketing for a number
(03:28):
of beverage startups.
So I was in the beverage spaceconsumer packaged goods and had
a lot of success, worked withamazing teams, incredible people
and very well-known brands.
And then, right before COVIDhit, I was laid off from a
director role at a big companyand it was a blessing in
disguise.
At first I was like, what am Igoing to do?
(03:49):
Where am I going to go?
But my kids were getting older.
I really wanted to be home.
When they got home I had alwayswanted my own business and
working in the entrepreneurialspace for entrepreneurs, I
learned so much of what it takes.
Little did I know being theentrepreneur, the business owner
takes a lot more than what Isaw as an employee.
(04:10):
But I knew that I wanted threethings back right before COVID.
So that was the end of 2019.
I wanted to be home when thekids got home.
I wanted to have my ownbusiness and I wanted it to be
profitable so to be able to workfrom anywhere and profitability
.
So to be able to work fromanywhere and profitability.
(04:42):
And I started just doing what Icould to make money back then
with the.
I still do consult with peopleon their social media there are
so many of us that do it but Ido love social media as a tool
for marketing you and I both.
So I was doing that for a whileand I had a business doing it.
I was making good money, but itjust was like a round peg
(05:02):
square hole.
I always use that analogy.
Just something wasn't fitting.
And then I hired a highperformance coach.
So this was about three and ahalf years ago and I thought
that's what I needed.
I thought I'm a high performer,I need a high performance
business coach, and what Ilearned pretty quickly was that
I needed to do some work on meto get clear on.
We talk about inner wellness andI know your show is a lot about
(05:24):
that, but I didn't really knowwhat that meant and I really
didn't spend any time with justmy own thoughts, which is wild,
looking back because of whereI've come in the past three
years.
Yeah, so I started doing thework, the proverbial work.
I started meditating.
My coach helped me get to aplace where I realized like my
(05:46):
life is in my control, but Ihave to choose it.
And so I started choosing meand doing what felt really good,
like using my skillset from allof my past experiences.
I was in marketing, but beforethat I had been in television
production.
I mean, I had had a lot of jobs.
I ran a store for Lululemonwhen they were just coming onto
the scene.
(06:06):
Like I need to write a bookeventually about all of the life
experiences in my career thatI've had, because it is very
colorful.
But it all led me to herebecause ultimately, what I
learned is that I've always beenan athlete.
I was a big lacrosse player inhigh school and college.
I was good at the sport becauseI loved it, and I've coached
(06:31):
for the past 25 years.
I've always coached young teamsand so I started by getting
certified to be a life coachLong story long here and I loved
helping adults through pivotsin their career.
I had a number of adult clients.
They were looking to changecareers in midlife.
I had done it, so I was trainedin helping them in life
coaching.
And still that square peg roundhole situation.
(06:52):
I wasn't marketing myself.
Something didn't feel right andthen I stepped out onto the
lacrosse field to coach kids.
This is now two years ago and Ijust knew I need to focus on
working with kids.
This is where my heart is, thisis what I know I'm good at.
And so I went and got certifiedto be more of a mindset coach,
focusing on mental performance,and I've been coaching kids ever
(07:15):
since.
So that's how I got here today.
Long story, I still coachlacrosse.
I love it.
It lights me up and it gives methe opportunity to be on the
ground floor with the kids,listening to where the pressure
is coming from, what types ofanxiety do they have?
You know, what are theybringing from school to the
athletic field and vice versa.
(07:35):
So it's just been an incrediblejourney and I'm just getting
started.
Like really, I feel like thisis year one which is so exciting
, which is so good.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
Thanks for listening, no, which I totally love,
because the other cool thingthat I think about your story
that I think is reallyinteresting when I first met you
, you were life coaching adults,yeah, and you kept saying like
(08:08):
I'm just kind of like I lovethis, but there's something off,
right, so square peg round,like it just was a little bit
off.
And when I heard you say to meI figured it out.
And when you said it to me itwas like the biggest light bulb.
I was like, yes, becausepersonally, what you do, I would
want to shoot myself.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
You'd be so good at it.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
Not for me, Teenagers not for me.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
It's just not for me.
The mindset mental performance.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
I get that, but I'm not an athlete also, so I can't
relate, so it's not for me.
So your experience, you canrelate to these kids and they
can relate to you.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
Yeah, and I'm raising my own teenagers but, like all
parents, say to me oh, my kidjust doesn't listen to me.
I'm saying all the things thatyou're saying.
I said well, that's becausethey're your child, yes, and of
course they're not going tolisten to you in the way that
they're going to listen to mebecause, first of all, I am
trained to help them in this way, but also you're their parent
(09:05):
and it's just a very differentdynamic.
We know, as parents, that theyjust don't listen to us
sometimes like we want them to.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
Yeah, so talk to me about how do you deal with the
fear of making yet another let'sair quote it pivot in your
career.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
That's a great question, because I was giving
myself some coaching thismorning and one of the questions
that I know that you will askme and I'm sorry to throw it
back at you but about innerwellness, and I think that the
biggest piece for me is trustingmyself, and over the past two
years it really started withmeditation for me personally
(09:41):
Some people struggle withmeditation.
I always thought I can't do it,I can't sit still with my own
thoughts, and it was reallychallenging for me in the
beginning, but a friend of minehad given me the biggest gift of
learning transcendentalmeditation.
So I went to Katona and forfour days out of one week I sat
with this amazing woman andlearned how to meditate.
(10:01):
I literally had to learn how tosit still with my own thoughts,
which was a lot harder than Ithought it would be, but by the
end of four days I was so inlove with the process of just
sitting in silence because therewas so much that came up and
talk about fear.
It's like you're afraid andthen you sit with your own
thoughts and you know what'sbest for you.
(10:23):
Yes, and so the way that I dealwith it is through meditation
and then movement, and I have apretty solid practice.
Every morning, I sit, I have ayoga mat in my living room.
I don't have a ton of space towork out in my house, but I have
a yoga mat in the living roomyou don't need that much space
and I just wake up, I godownstairs, I have a glass of
(10:47):
water, I sit down and I usuallyuse an app.
These days I was doingTranscendental Meditation, which
is 20 minutes, twice a day forquite some time, which really
got me on the train of okay, Iknow how to do this and I can
tap into that meditative spaceat anywhere, anytime, which is
what she taught me how to do.
So it's not about sitting on acushion, sitting like this, and
you know what people I thinkenvision meditation to be.
(11:09):
It's just being with yourselfand learning to trust yourself
and listen to what you know youneed to do or not do.
And so for me, the fear.
Even this morning, I sat downand I was like okay, I'm, you
know it's.
I've taken some time off thissummer to be with my family and
recharge, which I desperatelyneeded, because when I am in the
work it's a lot of energyoutput.
(11:31):
You know I'm working with kidsand and I care deeply about
their mental performance, butalso just the way that they feel
about themselves, and so it's alot of energy output.
So this summer I took a lot oftime to you know, to drink in
all the good energy and be withmy family, which always restores
me.
But now I'm going back intowork mode, which can be scary,
(11:58):
and I respect I mean listen, Iworked at an office for too many
years and I respect everyonethat has to do that every single
day and doesn't have a choice.
But I made the choice to do thescary thing and have my own
business.
So the meditation every morning,and then I do some movement.
So, whether it's like even downto just some downward dog yoga
movement, whatever works for you, that's what works for me Get
my body moving and set myself upfor success for the day.
(12:21):
And then you and I have talkedabout this, but I journal.
I have a five minute journal,me too, and I just do a favorite
, my favorite it's I should haveit right here to show everyone,
but it's called literally thefive minute journal and it gives
you prompts, and I'm a fan ofprompts because some days I just
get you know.
You know when you just blank, Idon't know what to write.
(12:42):
So the prompts really help andI write three things I'm
grateful for.
So I practice gratitude everymorning.
That's a part of my morningroutine.
And what would make today great?
And so that is setting myselfup for that's what I do, to set
myself up for success.
I know you do too, like whatwould make today great?
Really think about it, becausetime can just slip.
(13:03):
But if you plan it and if youthink about, hey, what would
make this day, this time that Ihave, we only have today.
Yesterday's done, yep, tomorrowhasn't happened yet.
We get to create that.
So what would make today great?
And then I love to recap at theend of the night.
I was doing mine last night.
Like you know, yesterday wasgreat.
I got to spend time with mydaughter and her friends.
They're all in preseason, so Ilove the energy of where they
(13:26):
are right now, because I'm not ateenage athlete anymore.
I was but it was a very longtime ago, so I'm learning from
them just as much as they'relearning from me, and so that's
how I deal with the fear whichcomes up every single day, every
day, and it's just a matter oftelling myself you know, don't
(13:52):
let it take over, right, let itwalk beside you.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
What I love what you said about fear, which I think
is so important and I try totalk to my clients about fear
all the time is that the goal isnot to remove fear.
Fear exists.
Let's just acknowledge it andbe honest.
I always say any entrepreneurthat says they don't have any
degree of fear is absolutelylying to you.
There is fear.
I feel like the key with fearis to make it so.
Fear is walking beside you.
It's not like pushing you,You're not running away from it.
(14:15):
It's kind of right there besideyou, because fear can be a
motivator.
Especially as an entrepreneurand as an athlete, fear can be a
motivator, I would think, tokind of step up and stretch
yourself outside your comfortzone.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
Oh, yeah, I agree with you wholeheartedly.
Fear is always there.
I like the analogy of having itwalk beside you.
And as an athlete, of course,fear can be disguised as nerves,
it can be disguised as so manythings, but at the core of it,
we all experience fear.
We're human, you know.
But if you see fear as I lovethe acronym face everything and
(14:52):
rise.
Yeah, I've always, I've alwaysloved that and I think I have it
on the board behind mesomewhere.
But, as opposed to, I'm scaredand so I'm going to go into my
shell and just hide from theworld, which is easier to do in
the short term.
In the long term and, trust me,I've experienced it the first
two years of not having afull-time job and starting this
(15:15):
business and not really knowingwhere I was going, I was scared,
scared, and instead of being inaction, I hid from the world
and and it was the work I lookback like and, granted, it was
COVID, so it was easier to hideback then no one was really
going anywhere.
But I'm not that person.
I never have been.
I am a very extroverted I've.
(15:36):
I get fueled by other people'senergy.
This right now, this will fuelme for the rest of the day just
connecting with you, because Ido work for myself and I do work
alone, and that is a big changefrom what I did my entire life
career from when I was 21 andleft college to today or to five
years ago Not being aroundpeople.
(15:57):
All day is different.
It's an adjustment and peopledon't talk about it enough,
because you do need to find ifyou're a people person like me
(16:18):
and if you thrive on others'energy and being in a space
where everyone's creatingtogether which I always was to
create on your own self-doubtcreeps in.
You need to have things to do.
I love to go and work at ourlibrary, our local library here
in Greenwich, and just to bearound other people's energy
helps fuel me.
I don't even need to be on acreative team with you.
I feel your creative energyfrom over here Sounds weird, but
it's just true and I've hadhealers tell me that too.
You just need to be in thespace of other people's energy,
(16:40):
because if I'm alone, I'llsometimes I mean, I've done the
work for myself, so I'm betterat knowing okay, I need to get
out of my house, I need to getout from behind this desk and be
with people.
Just go work at a coffee shopor whatever it takes to be back
in the energy of other people.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
Well, and you said something that's really
important.
It's about recognizing for youwhat helps you perform the best,
which I'm pretty sure youtranslate to your clients as
teen athletes oh, 100% Right.
So I have a question how do youtake the skills that have
helped you with your innerwellness journey and teach some
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of those to teenagers?
Speaker 1 (17:22):
That's a great question.
Slowly, slowly and I reallylike to start with the kid to
see if they've done any of thework for themselves.
Most of them have not, which Idon't expect them to.
They're young.
I would have given my left legto have some of the tools that I
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have now as an athlete incollege, especially In high
school.
In my mind and in this world now, where the kids are in high
school which is why I chose towork with teenage athletes
specifically is really where wewere when I was playing in
college 25 years ago.
The pressure is so much morethan it ever was.
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Getting into college is so muchharder, you know, because you
have a kid that's been tocollege.
Into college is so much harder,you know, because you have a
kid that's been to college.
Just, they have a lot more thatis weighing on them, and so
that's why I feel so deeplyabout working with teenage
athletes because I want them tofeel, you know, really secure in
themselves as an athlete and asa person stepping into this
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next phase of life, which iscollege, which is where they'll
eventually go.
So I start off by asking themif they've done any breath work,
any meditation, anyvisualization, anything that is
more focused on their mentalperformance.
And then I share some videoswith some of my clients about
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professional athletes that usethese tools all the time.
Tennis players share a lotabout the mental performance
work that they do because it'ssuch an individual sport and
it's really at that point in thegame you know 80% mental.
Everyone's at the same place.
Physically it's all about whatseparates the good from the
great and the champions from thenon-champions is how they
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manage their mental state.
Like, if you make a mistake outthere, what happens?
Does it destroy you, yes, or doyou know how to flip that
switch and get back to beingyour best self?
It's hard, very hard, but it'scompletely possible.
It just takes practice, likeany other habit, like meditation
.
For me it was hard in thebeginning but with practice it's
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become just.
It's not even a question, Ijust can do it, and that's how I
feel about this mentalperformance for kids.
So that's kind of how Iapproach it, slowly and with
care, and I put a lot of loveinto it because I really do love
what I do.
Yes, do the kids have homeworkthat you give them?
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Yes and no?
I mean it's a choice I givethem.
It depends on the client andwhat sport they're playing and
where they are in their sport,what year they are in high
school.
But I do personalizevisualizations with some of my
kids, with most of them, and Ido give them breathing
techniques and it's up to them.
So you know if they want to do,if they do the work again, just
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like anything.
It's like school.
Hey, if you study for the test,you're going to do really well
on the test.
It's pretty cut and dry.
If you practice the breathingthat I'm teaching you very
simple things.
To start, you know I have tostart with the basics.
Box breathing is something thatI teach first.
It's a very basic, easy tool.
It's four seconds in.
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You hold for four seconds, youexhale for four seconds, you
hold for four seconds like a boxand I have them practice that
every single day until we meetthe next week.
If they practice it, then theywill get better.
If they don't, then it's.
You know, it's on them, whichmost of these kids I mean.
I haven't had one client thathasn't done the work for
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themselves because they know howit makes them feel and it's a
pretty immediate thing.
I mean, if you do box breathingfor a week.
You start to think about yourbreathing when you're out
performing.
You know, when you're out thereon the field or the court or
the ice, you start to thinkabout your breath because you've
been practicing it.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
So where does confidence play in this?
Now, I've never been an athlete, it's not my thing.
No, I like I would have beenterrible, terrible.
I played volleyball in juniorhigh school because they let
anyone on the team and I wasabsolutely terrible.
I only did it for one year.
I was terrible.
Were you ever a dancer?
I danced for a little whilewhen I was young, but then
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stopped.
I love that.
So, unlike my daughter, who istotally so coordinated and so
good that is not my thing, Ilove watching her.
That is not my thing.
I love watching her.
That is not my thing, but Ifeel like confidence is probably
something that teenagers reallystruggle with because they're
trying to figure out who theyare in their universe as it is,
as it stands, whereas adults westruggle with confidence and we
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already have all this history.
So where does confidence playin the whole mindset part of an
athlete as a teenager?
Speaker 1 (22:10):
Another great question.
I you know, confidence in highschool.
It's such a challenging thingbecause, to your point, it's the
hardest time in life, I believe, as, looking back on my teenage
self, looking at pictures, Ihave my 30th high school reunion
coming up, so I've been lookingat all of these old pictures
like God, how did we get throughthat?
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But we didn't have social media.
And so that with the additionof social media in our culture,
it's just added this layer, thisthick layer that can really
make or break a kid's confidencein themselves and
self-acceptance and self-loveand all those things, because
there's constant comparison.
(22:51):
You're not just comparingyourself to your peers, but
you're comparing yourself topeers all over the world, and
you know thinking that you needto.
You know, use collagen as a14-year-old to look beautiful
when their skin is perfectalready as it is.
You know, back in the day wewere like scrubbing apricot,
like you know, using aluminumfoil with oil to get sun, and
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now we know all that's bad forus, but we didn't have this tool
that they have, which, whenused for good, can be wonderful
social media but when used inthe way that they use it and
they communicate with it, whichis great, but again, the
comparison syndrome can beheightened.
So confidence is somethingthat's built and I think we're
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all born confident, but then theworld kind of tries to shrink
us.
And so by doing all of the workthat I do with these kids and
teaching them the tools to usewhile they're practicing but
also, you know, it doesn't justgo for sport, it translates to
everything that they're doingyou have a big test to take.
You're going to use thebreathwork, you're going to use
the visualization and you're notgoing to go and visualize
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having everything be perfect.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
Oh, that's a good point.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
You have to visualize the reality of how life is.
So you know we get on a podcast.
I did some visualization thismorning because I just have done
this before.
I'm comfortable with it.
I know you, I'm comfortablewith you, but you have to expect
that some things like yourmicrophone not working or your
light going out in the middle ofrecording it's real life.
(24:27):
But then how do you workthrough those little bumps in
the road?
How do you fix them and that'sall.
Again back to building thehabits that increase your
confidence.
So if you know that you feelgood about yourself when you're
running faster just to use arandom example as an athlete
then you know that if you workon your running, it's going to
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build your confidence.
So I work with them on focusingon what they can control yes,
and focusing on what they'rereally good at.
Because a lot of kids will sayand adults too, I'm just not
good at that, I'm not good at it.
Well, you don't know unless youtry.
And if you've tried and youknow to your point, I was never
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an athlete, you didn't say Iwasn't good at it, you just said
I never was, and I respect that.
If you were to say, oh, I wasjust the worst at everything,
but I didn't try.
Then of course you have noconfidence because you didn't
try.
But confidence also is builtwith effort and trying and
knowing what works and whatdoesn't.
So I just think it's built overtime and it's built through
habits and practicing saidhabits.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
Which is a really important lesson, though,
because you're teaching themreally young that confidence is
not a I have it or I don't haveit.
You're teaching them that it'sa skill and something that they
can expand on and grow andbecome if they don't feel like
they're confident.
So I think that's such animportant point.
You're making it so differentthan just either I have talent
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or I don't have talent, likegetting them to move away from
the black and white world andrecognize that everything can be
worked on and improved if theywant to.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
And also that you know you might not be the best
at your sport.
You might not, but all that youhave to be is your best.
Because if you are your bestthen you're contributing to the
greater good.
But if you're just sitting backand say I'm just not the best,
therefore there's no spot for me, or I'm never going to make it
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Like okay, where do you reallysee yourself going?
And if that's your goal, thenlet's get you there.
And if we figure out that it'simpossible to get you there like
maybe you won't be the besttennis player in the world.
I was talking about thisyesterday with friends with the
Olympics and someone said youknow, I find it so funny when
Olympians someone would say ohwell, I only got third place.
(26:51):
You got third place out of howmany Billions of people?
that made it to the Olympics inyour sport.
That is something to becelebrated.
If you wanted first place, Iget it.
You're sad you didn't get firstplace, but you got third place
out of billions of people thatcould have otherwise been there
but didn't do the work to getthere, you know.
(27:15):
Yes, so, and confidence iseverything.
People have always speculatedthat, oh, you're so out, you're
so extroverted, you're soconfident.
You've always been confident.
I am a confident person bynature, but I don't just like
wake up feeling confident everysingle day.
I have to do things that thatmake me feel confident, like
when I'm in the work.
Of the work that I'm doing, itmakes me feel good because I'm
making an impact on otherpeople's lives.
That gives me confidence.
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When I see a kid actuallytransforming themselves with my
guidance, that gives me theconfidence to know I am just
going to keep going because thisis making a difference.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
As an adult, yes, it does, and we're going to come
back to confidence because we'regoing to talk about your
podcast in a minute.
But I want to talk aboutsomething else.
Do you help kids, and I'm justpersonally curious Do you make
them go through visualizationthat relates to the?
I don't want to call themfailures, but the situations
that don't turn out the way theywant?
Speaker 1 (28:30):
no-transcript when they make the team and then
suddenly they get benched.
This has happened a number oftimes.
So they make the team andthey're so excited and their
parents are excited, everyone'sexcited for them.
And this is where ego comesinto play, because we all have
it, but when it gets bruised alittle bit it can be hard to
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recover from unless you have thetools and what's to recover.
So I've had this happen anumber of times this year where
a kid that I've worked with hasmade a team and then been very
excited about playing andstarting and you know, being a
part of this bigger thing, andthen benched.
No explanation, yeah, nocommunication from the coach.
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Painful, painful, and Iunderstand that pain.
I really do.
I lived it.
I mean I was benched.
I was the captain, co-captain mysenior year of my lacrosse team
, benched in a state final gamethat we were losing, and I can
viscerally remember how thatfelt for me as like one of the
top scoring players on the team.
(29:36):
Why are you benching me?
No communication from the coach.
She just that was her choice.
She probably didn't like meback then and I definitely
resented her for that, but itwas hard.
It was really hard and I couldhave easily gone into the
mindset of you know what?
I'm just not good at thisanymore.
My coach isn't playing me.
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I'm not good.
Maybe I shouldn't play incollege which I've also seen
happen a number of times, whichbreaks my heart in half, because
it is a choice to play incollege.
But if you get in and you'rerecruited to play and you have
that opportunity, I alwaysencourage kids to please take
that opportunity because it's aonce-in-a-lifetime experience.
I'm so grateful for theexperience I had in college.
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I had an amazing coach.
A lot of the reason why I do thework that I do now is because
of that senior year experienceand how that felt and I didn't
have the tools.
My poor parents were like oh,what do we do?
But yes, it happens a lot andagain it's back to just weekly
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habit building and remindingthem of their great.
What are you great at?
And it's not all about pattingeveryone on the back.
Great, you know you get atrophy.
It's not about that.
Like, you are going to bebenched, you are going to lose
some games, it is going to hurt.
That's a part of life.
Yes, life is not about winningall the time.
And if someone says that to you, you can't believe them because
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it's not true.
But when you do win, youcelebrate those wins and you
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remember what that feels like,like I do, from my college days.
We won a lot, we played hard,we were supported.
It was hard, you know we had topractice hard and I did not
like those practices, but I knewthat if I would practice hard
that I would play well in thegames and you know.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
Just to circle back to your question, getting the
kids to remember every week likeOK, here's where you are today
and it's not the end of theworld, but let's work on what we
can control that you and I havebeen working on, you know, for
the last five plus years,because we have similar paths of
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leaving corporate America andbecoming entrepreneurs, and I'm
like this is just this is justlife skill stuff, and so so much
of what you can teach theseyoung adults they can carry in,
whether they stay being anathlete or not.
Your gift and your uniquenessis that you can connect with
them as an athlete and in thatspace that's why I chose this
niche.
Speaker 1 (32:12):
You know, as a marketer by trade, I also.
It was challenging for me tolike.
Initially I was like, oh, Ijust want to help all athletes.
But I had my coach was like no,no, no, we're going to focus
and hone in on where you canreally make the most impact, and
that happened to be with highschool athletes.
But you know who knows whereI'm going to go from here.
(32:35):
I was listening to a podcast.
I'm a big podcast listener.
I love your podcast.
I listen to it.
I listen to a number ofdifferent podcasts, but I was
listening to one about justabout living in alignment with
your career and who you are as aperson, and I talked about
creating a vision, which everyyear, like this is.
This is a little mini visionboard I did for 2025.
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I've had a word of the yearevery year.
This year is consistency andbecause it's something that has
always challenged me, but I knowthat when I'm consistent with
my morning routines, with youknow, being good to myself and
choosing healthy choices, allthe things that that I'm the
better version of me and andalso that it was about creating
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a vision and and suspending thehow.
So for me, I've I get stucksometimes in how am I going to
do that?
How am I going to create that?
But what she said was when youhave a vision that you don't
know how you're going to getthere, but you have to have that
big, crazy vision in order tolive into it.
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But if you have a plan, thenyou're going to execute on it.
But that's a plan, it's not avision.
With a plan, you know howyou're going to get there.
There are steps.
You follow steps, but with avision, suspend the how.
And I really took that lessonand I'm running with it.
I wrote it in my journal thismorning Don't worry about how
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I'm going to get there.
Who knows where this is goingto go.
Just focused on today and mynext client kid that I work with
and alleviating some of thestress that these parents are
feeling, which you know.
The child, the student athlete,is my client, but the parent,
you know they're the firstpeople that I work with I have.
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I really care about meetingthem, getting to know them,
having them know me a little bit, and then they trust that their
kids are going to manage ourrelationship.
But it's important to me forthem to know what.
I'm here to help their kidswith.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (34:40):
Because most parents don't come to me when I use the
analogy of the like a spigotthat's trickling water.
Yes, they don't usually comewhen it's trickling.
They usually come when, like,it's a fire hose that's
trickling water.
Yes, they don't usually comewhen it's trickling.
They usually come when it's afire hose that's open.
Of course Right, yes, a firehydrant on the side of the road
Like help?
Yes, we don't know what to do.
They're depressed and they wantto quit their sport, but
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they're the best in our town.
Help.
Speaker 2 (35:06):
Which is a rough place as a parent and a rough
place as a kid.
Speaker 1 (35:09):
So it's the hardest as a parent.
Speaker 2 (35:10):
How do your clients find you?
Speaker 1 (35:14):
Most have found me either on social media, on
Instagram mostly, I'm doing mybest to keep up with TikTok, but
it's just too fast, it's a lot.
Speaker 2 (35:22):
You have to post.
All the time I was on somethingthat said you have to post
three times a day.
No, that is so much content,that's crazy.
Speaker 1 (35:29):
It's too much content , even once a day is so hard to
do.
Well and content as anentrepreneur is.
It's like such a push-pull forme.
A lot of people have found mevia Instagram, Okay, and most
have found me word of mouth.
So you know, in our neck of thewoods in Fairfield County,
Connecticut, a lot of kids areplaying very high level sport
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and parents are on the sidelines.
I am one of those parents forsome sports my kids play and I
also just am a people person.
So I have a lot of friends whoare very supportive of me and
the work that I'm doing, and soword of mouth, but Instagram has
been a great driver of businessfor me and I'm doing my best to
keep up with the said content.
Speaker 2 (36:13):
But you're doing a really good job and your content
.
I will tell you just for peopleI know, you personally
struggled with some of yourcontent in the beginning and you
struggled with beingcomfortable because it is no
matter how confident you are andhow good you are at your job,
for very often for entrepreneursit's really hard to put your
face out there on social mediaand to have to watch yourself
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and listen to yourself.
And even if you're on a podcast, it's kind of not about you,
it's about somebody else, it'snot about me but then it's it
really is about people gettingto know me and trust.
Speaker 1 (36:46):
It's.
It's building trust.
And so when I put the ego inthe backseat, it's not about me
Like I don't.
Really I did my best.
This summer we have a camp inthe Adirondacks that's off the
grid, and so I'm mostly when I'mwith my family, not on
electronics, which is both verychallenging for me, especially
the first few days, but it's soliberating and what I can do is
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create content, which I didcreate a lot of content, because
the phone doesn't have anythingincoming so I can just record,
yes, and it freed me up so muchto really share it from a very
authentic place and that's youknow I'm.
I'm a pretty authentic person.
I like I am who I am, like you,what you see is what you get
kind of thing person.
(37:31):
I like I am who I am, like you,what you see is what you get,
kind of thing.
So promoting myself was veryhard in the beginning because
I've always promoted otherpeople.
You know, as a marketer,promoting other people and other
brands was easy for me and fun,yes, it is.
But promoting myself andselling my services was very
challenging and I know it's verychallenging for so many people.
I had a friend ask me thismorning can you help me with my
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social media strategy, because Idon't like promoting for myself
.
I said I get it and she's anartist and most artists also are
very challenged by listen.
I just want to do my art.
I'm like, yes, but in order todo your art, you need to sell
some art so that you can buymore supplies and it's, you know
, it's a cycle, just like inorder to keep learning, which
I'm very committed to continuingmy education in this space.
(38:15):
There's so much to learn sports,psychology, mindset, and I mean
I just am starting anothercourse in October.
I really do love continuededucation in space and I know
you do too.
You want to get better.
I want to get better, I want tobe of more service to these
kids, and the only way to dothat is to learn more and
practice.
Speaker 2 (38:35):
Obviously You're setting a good example to the
kids that school is not justright here, right now, and so
you know a lot of times it's youknow, okay, they're in high
school and then they're incollege, and then they have to
get a job and it's like no, no,no.
Life is about continuallylearning, continually working on
yourself.
(38:55):
Continue to improve, and if youcan instill that in these young
athletes about the need tostill keep learning and get
better and improving, just as ahuman being, that's a gift.
Speaker 1 (39:03):
It's, it really is.
I agree wholeheartedly.
And sometimes I look at my kidsI'm like you're so lucky to be
on such a rigorous schedule andwhat I would give to be back in
school.
And then they look at me likewhat, are you crazy?
It's so hard and it is, but wedid it.
I went through school, I wentthrough college and I've done a
lot of continuing education inmy life, in my career, for
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marketing especially.
I went into marketing notknowing anything really about
marketing.
I knew I was a good salesperson.
I had run businesses in thepast, so it was.
You know, we were like puttingthe wheels on the plane as it
was taking off, kind of thing.
When it comes toentrepreneurship and building
businesses, which is how I feelevery day now, every day, every
day is a learning journey, everysingle day.
Speaker 2 (39:48):
So let me ask you about your kids.
How old are your kids?
Speaker 1 (39:50):
is learning journey Every single day.
So let me ask you about yourkids.
How old are your kids?
My daughter Lily is 14 and ahalf and my son Owen is 13.
Speaker 2 (39:56):
Okay, yeah, so rising ninth grade which is crazy and
rising seventh grade highschooler.
That's crazy, it just goesreally fast.
Do you coach them on mindsetand, if so, how does that go
down?
Because you're a mom, I do.
Speaker 1 (40:09):
I do, but I'm not pushy about it.
I do my best to not be pushyabout it because I respect their
memories, but I also respectthat they don't want to hear it
from me all the time.
But I will give you an example.
We took the kids.
We were so lucky to go on anamazing vacation with my family,
my entire family, my parents,my sister, brother, their
families and my husband and Ipeeled off, for we were out in
(40:33):
Utah for a week and we peeledoff to Arizona, take the kids to
the Grand Canyon.
My husband's a teacher and hisdad was a professor of geology
his whole career.
So my husband spent a lot oftime in the Grand Canyon.
I had never been.
Our kids had never been outWest.
So it was a really special timefor us.
And let me tell you, for anyonethat's hiked the Grand Canyon
you know I was first of all,you're just, your stomach is on
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the ground.
It's so overwhelminglybeautiful.
Have you been?
Yes, I have.
Okay, it's just a veryspiritual experience.
It's like wow, we are so tinyand this is a huge hole in the
earth.
Like wow, we are so tiny andthis is a huge hole in the earth
.
But we got up at 4.30 in themorning.
We hiked the canyon from 5 amto noon and there were fires all
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across the North Rim, so wecould only hike the South Rim.
There was only one trail open,but we were able to go all the
way down to the bottom and allthe way back up, and I was
giving them a little bit ofcoaching.
I was the one that struggledthe most, I'll be honest.
Yes, eat humble pie.
I struggled the most.
The three of them were like canwe just meet you at the top?
I mean, I was huffing andpuffing and I was also carrying
(41:43):
a lot of the water and Gatorade,of course, snacks.
Speaker 2 (41:45):
Of course.
Speaker 1 (41:46):
The mom stuff, the mom stuff.
But I did say to them at onepoint it's all switchbacks
coming up, so you're hikingsheer.
It's very steep and you'regoing back and forth, and back
and forth and it's very easy tolook at the top and think we're
never going to make it.
This is so hard.
Yes, there's no way we're goingto make it back.
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And how did we get?
Why did we go all the way downhere?
Speaker 2 (42:09):
Why are we doing this ?
Why did we keep walking?
Why did we turn around and go?
Speaker 1 (42:13):
back.
This hurts.
And then I said to them at onepoint you know, don't look at
the end goal, just look at thecorner in front of us and think
about each and every step thatyou're taking.
Sing a song in your head, dowhatever you need to do to get
you from here to the next spotof shade.
We use shade as like littleshort-term goals, because the
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sun gets very hot and once thesun was up, you know, it's like
over a hundred degrees in thesummer, gets very hot, but those
pockets of shade are everything.
So we would say, I would say tothem let's just focus on
getting to the next pocket ofshade.
And I maybe said it once ortwice, I didn't, even though
they'll say oh, mom, kept sayingthere's only a mile left.
There's only a mile left, whichI really thought there was when
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we still had around two milesleft.
So I said only a mile.
And they were like stop lyingto us.
But I genuinely thought that.
So it really made me happybecause at one point my daughter
turned around and my kids arein great shape and I am too.
It was just I was strugglingthat day.
But she turned around and saidto me Mom, I'm using your
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mindset trick and they reallywork.
And I was like, oh, Proud mamamoment.
Speaker 2 (43:24):
It was a really proud moment.
Speaker 1 (43:26):
And then I said to them okay, you guys can go ahead
without me, I'll meet you atthe top.
I met some really nice peoplewho were also struggling.
I didn't train enough and thiswas in my I was mindset,
coaching myself the entire wayup, yes, and I was telling
myself you can do this, you cando hard things, just one step at
a time, like everything that Iuse to coach kids.
(43:49):
And then some I was coachingmyself because it was the
biggest physical challenge I'vehad in a really long time.
And I will say and I haven'tsaid this out loud before but
being a former athlete and nowdoing the work that I do, which
is such a privilege to do, but Imiss being an athlete so badly.
And like my body doesn't.
It can't do what it did backthen, obviously Right.
(44:12):
And I have a small injury rightnow which in my knee, which
really doesn't add to thechallenge of hiking or anything
that.
Speaker 2 (44:21):
I'm used to doing.
Speaker 1 (44:24):
But I miss it.
I miss being in the action ofit all.
And you know, someone said tome once oh how can you coach the
kids when you don't know whatit feels like?
I was like well, of course Iknow what it feels like, I
experienced all of it.
It may have been a long timeago, but it feels like it was
yesterday.
Of course, those emotions arestill there, very visceral.
So, yeah, that was a recentexample coaching my own kids and
(44:53):
them actually listening,because I wasn't giving too much
.
I was just like, just focus onwhere you are right now and that
next little bit not.
Oh my God, it's like building abusiness you don't think about.
Oh well, I have to.
You know, I'm going to have apodcast and I'm going to have 61
episodes.
Speaker 2 (45:07):
No yeah.
Speaker 1 (45:08):
No, you can't.
Speaker 2 (45:08):
It's too monumental.
It has to be baby step, babystep, baby step to absolutely
everything, all right.
So, speaking of the podcast,let's talk about your podcast,
because you are relaunching yourpodcast, and that's actually
how I met you in the first placewas.
I heard about your podcast andI reached out to you because I
wanted to be a guest on yourshow and you were right, I was
never a guest on your show.
Speaker 1 (45:27):
Well, you will be, because you stopped, I and you
were right, I was never a gueston your show.
Speaker 2 (45:29):
Well you will be Because you stopped I think you
had stopped recording and wewent and we met for lunch one
day and we just started gabbingand I was like, oh my goodness,
we have so much in common Justin our life path and our journey
and our vision of where we are.
And then breathwork we both hadthe same breathwork coach.
Speaker 1 (45:57):
And so our paths just keep kind of crossing, crossing
.
We need to give a shout out tojen, because jen for breathwork,
oh my goodness, breathworkchanged my life.
That was the second phase of uh, of healing and elevating.
Was breathwork first.
It was meditation, yeah, and Iknow that for you too, yeah, um,
and jen is incredible, um, andI continue and I will forever to
do breathwork with her, me tooyeah, no, like it's like it gets
ingrained in who you are and itis one of the greatest gifts
once you figure out how to do it, and it really is a tool that I
use for every athlete that Iwork with.
Speaker 2 (46:18):
It's so important, yes, and every professional
athlete a hundred percent isdoing it which does help a
little bit with teenagers wherethey want to feel like the pros
are doing.
You know that they can do whatthe pros are doing when, like,
if a pro athlete isn't doing it,then it's not really as cool.
Speaker 1 (46:33):
Oh, and they're all.
Everyone at the top is you haveto?
Speaker 2 (46:38):
Very, because they figured out nervous system
regulation.
It's so important they figuredit out.
Speaker 1 (46:42):
So important, and it's the best tool.
Speaker 2 (46:44):
It is Okay, so let's talk about your podcast.
Speaker 1 (46:47):
So I launched.
It's called Constantly Curious,and initially, when I launched
it two years ago two and a halfyears ago I was.
The impetus behind it was thatI was feeling lonely as an
entrepreneur and I wanted toconnect with like-minded people
who were doing the same kinds ofthing that I was and I also
have done a lot of voiceoverwork in my career and I just
(47:10):
love talking with people andlearning about people, and I
wanted to share inspiringstories.
So initially I launched it.
I have 16 episodes, I believe,that are still on Spotify and
Apple Podcasts and then I pausedlast year, the beginning of
last year.
I had to take a pause because Iwas focused on what I'm doing
(47:32):
now and I needed to take all ofuse, all of my good energy, to
build the website and start tomarket and get clients, all the
things.
And then I co-hosted a localpodcast for a little while
called Building Greenwich, whichI really loved, but it wasn't
aligned with where I'm going inmy career, and so I then,
through breathwork, actuallylearned this is not aligned
(47:55):
right now.
That word kept coming up Likeit's not aligned with what I'm
doing as a coach for these kids,and so I pressed pause on
everything podcast related.
A year ago now it was lastAugust and then Constantly
Curious, has kept coming up forme.
I miss it and I can't wait toget back to it.
(48:15):
Um, and I'm I'm kind ofswitching gears on the format.
So I'm going to do more shortform episodes because I want for
like I've had parents reach outto me and say, oh, are there
any episodes that my kid canlisten to before they start
working with you?
And so I'm going to be buildingout a YouTube channel and on
Spotify and Apple, more shortform, like five to 12 minute
(48:36):
episodes on specific topics.
But it's not just going to beabout mental performance, it's
also going to be life andparenting, and it will always
circle around the work that I do, because that's who I am.
But I am constantly curious youare, and it just so happens to
be that I'm constantly curiousabout mental performance.
(48:56):
But it ties into everythingthat I do in my life as a parent
, as a spouse, as a friend, as adaughter, as a sister.
It's all tied.
So I am going to be doing soloepisodes and then eventually,
once I've got the ball rollingagain, we'll interview amazing
humans like yourself, and I'vemet some incredible people along
(49:19):
this journey already in thepast nine months whom I can't
wait to share their stories.
So there's a lot to come.
Speaker 2 (49:26):
It's exciting and now that I've said it out loud, it
has to happen, it has to happen.
So I want to talk about twothings that I just want to point
out to the listeners, twothings that you said that I
think are really important.
And one is and I don't knowthat you know that you use these
words, but maybe you do, beinga mindset coach, you maybe know
it you just said something thepodcast wasn't aligned right now
(49:50):
.
And then you said you decidedto take a pause on the podcast.
And what's so important aboutboth of the way that you phrase
that and you framed that is itwasn't about saying the podcast
is never happening or I can't bea podcaster.
It was about saying, for righthere, right now, it just doesn't
(50:10):
align.
But now all of a sudden it'scome back and it's going to
twist a little bit.
And I bring this up because alot of times, as an entrepreneur
and even as an athlete and thisapplies to everybody we try to
do so many things and we want tobe excellent at everything, and
sometimes you have to take somestuff off your plate to really
really focus for a little bit.
And it's not to say some stuffoff your plate, to really,
(50:30):
really focus for a little bit,and it's not to say those things
can't come back, they can comeback.
But just really hone in andreally focus for a little bit
and then, when your plate is alittle bit lighter, then you can
add those other things.
So thank you for phrasing itthat way.
Speaker 1 (50:46):
Thank you for recapping that and reminding me
that.
I said that because I have awhiteboard in this office where
I wrote down the things.
I kind of made a list, you know, with a line down the middle
what is working and what's notworking.
Yes, and for right now, where Iam in my career, you know, I'm
surrounded by people that go tothe same job every day and
(51:08):
they're very they're settled intheir careers and I'm not and
it's a challenge for me and it'salso the ego caring about what
other people think, which I do alot of work on not caring.
But when I stopped doing thepodcast, people were like, where
is it?
Where is it?
And for a little while I waslike, oh gosh, I'm letting
people down, but at the end ofthe day I was really letting
(51:30):
myself down.
So I was like, oh gosh, I'mletting people down, but at the
end of the day I was reallyletting myself down.
So to your point, of course itcan come back, and who cares
what other people think of whereyou are in your career, in your
life journey?
All that matters really is you,for you, what you're doing.
So the what works and whatdoesn't work list was a really
good reminder and I recommendeveryone do it if you're feeling
(51:50):
like, oh my gosh, how am I evergoing to get there?
How am I going to make thatwork?
There are a lot of things thatI needed to sacrifice and most
of it was social.
I love being social with peopleand I love going on walks or
going to parties, but right nowI can't do that.
Right now, going on walks Iwill make time for, depending on
(52:12):
whom I'm walking with.
Yes, but I'm a walker now.
But spending time socializinglike I got invited to a birthday
party on Saturday night and Iwas exhausted and I had a big
day on Sunday and I just said no, and there's so much power.
Speaker 2 (52:28):
So much power in saying no, two little letters,
so much power.
Speaker 1 (52:31):
Which I've.
It's taken me a long time tolearn and I'm still learning
every day.
But right now, especially inthis season of my life and I
like to see things in seasonsand we're lucky enough to live
in Southern Connecticut where wedo experience all four seasons
yes, it like really helps propelyou through the year.
It's we're going into the fallseason.
It's really exciting.
It really helps propel youthrough the year.
We're going into the fallseason.
(52:51):
It's really exciting.
It's a beautiful time of yearbut can also be a very social
time of year.
My kids are going back toschool, there are parent socials
, there's this, there's that.
So, just knowing when to sayyes and when to say no, and
planning it, I have a big papercalendar like an old school 1995
desk calendar.
It's so nerdy, but I needeverything to be on paper.
(53:13):
Everything's digital too.
You got to do what works for you, but I like being able to look
ahead.
Oh, in three weeks from now, Ihave three things that week.
Okay, well, in the week beforeI'm going to need to restore
because that's going to be a lotof energy out.
You know we talked about energyin and energy out in the
beginning.
Yes, a lot of what you do withthe podcast.
(53:33):
It's a lot of energy that goesinto creating a podcast.
Speaker 2 (53:36):
You know it's not like.
Speaker 1 (53:37):
You just show up on a mic looking beautiful and do
what you do every day.
You practice, you prepare yousend me questions.
There's research, there'sresearch.
Yeah, you don't just show up.
So I'm excited for this nextseason and willing to sacrifice
these things, because what Iwant in building of my career is
something that I have alwayswanted.
(53:59):
It's just actually happeningnow, right.
Speaker 2 (54:02):
And doing the work again.
Okay, so before we run out oftime, I have one last question
for you.
I always ask all my guests ifthere's a book that they would
like to recommend that hasimpacted them either personally
or professionally.
So what book would you like torecommend?
Speaker 1 (54:16):
Well, I'm so excited that you asked this and that you
let me know ahead of time,because there are so many great
books.
There are, but this one.
It's called Journey to theHeart.
The author is Melody Beatty andit's daily meditations on the
path to freeing your soul.
But I was gifted this bookthree years ago and it's like
(54:38):
every day it's got a littlepassage, passage.
What's today, august 19th?
I think so.
Yep, august 19th yes so todayhow appropriate your destiny is
now.
And she just, it's a littleparagraph and at the end it has
a motivational thing like letyourself live and be in each
moment, with each person,learning each lesson along the
(55:01):
way.
Destiny isn't someplace we go,destiny is where we are.
So I've had it by my bedsidefor three years and I read it
every single day religiously forthe first year that I had it
and then in year two I would hadit by my bedside for three
years and I read it every singleday religiously for the first
year that I had it and then inyear two I would read it a
couple of times a week.
And now in year three, it'slike I got all the lessons and
now I touch base with it.
Like, actually I'm so gratefulthat I just read that passage
(55:22):
because it resonated.
It does, but it's a great book.
Again, journey to the Heart,melody Beattie.
She has another book too, butit helped me and I've sent it as
a gift to so many friends thatthey have said the same, like,
wow, I just keep this by mybedside and it's just a good
reminder it is Of how lucky weare to be here.
Yes, again, gratitude.
Speaker 2 (55:43):
Yes, and her story is inspiring, so I have it as well
.
Speaker 1 (55:47):
I have the book, thanks to you, so you told me
about the book, and so Iactually yeah, and her story is
inspiring.
Her story is super inspiring.
She's a storyteller.
Speaker 2 (55:53):
Yes, and I have that right next to where I sit and
journal and I look at it notevery day, but I always find.
What I think is so cool aboutit is that I always find when I
do look at it, the message is soappropriate.
So, whatever makes me look atit that day, the yet.
So whatever makes me look at itthat day, the message is really
meant to resonate for that day.
Speaker 1 (56:17):
Me too, and I do want to add you and I both have a
gratitude practice, and that'ssomething that I also teach the
kids.
But writing down, like gettingit out of your head and onto
paper, what you're grateful for,because there's so much to be
grateful for in this world yes,it sets your brain up to see the
good every day, 100%.
And not in a cheesy way, notlike, oh, everything's great all
the time.
It's not, but when you are setup to think positively in the
(56:39):
beginning of every day, itreally does help you get through
the day with the light that youneed to see the good.
Couldn't agree more.
Speaker 2 (56:50):
I just love it.
And I'm with you.
I have gratitude every morning.
It's the way to go and I can'tbelieve I wasn't doing it my
whole life.
Speaker 1 (56:56):
I know I thought I was, but you know I'm always
grateful, but saying it andwriting it down has just shifted
things for me.
I can't explain it, me too, butI just see everything as
possible that I maybe didn't seeas totally possible before.
But to what you said before,it's baby steps, baby steps.
Exactly this is a baby step forme, so thank you.
Speaker 2 (57:20):
I love, I love.
Thank you so much for spendingso much time with me.
I am so inspired and empoweredby what you're doing to help
teenage athletes.
Teenagers just need all thehelp, and you're teaching them
such critical skills to helpthem be better athletes, but
also to be better human beings.
So you are doing some reallypowerful work, and I'm going to
link everything in the shownotes so people can reach out to
(57:40):
you.
I encourage everyone, even ifyou don't have a teenage athlete
, follow Lindsay on Instagram,because so much of what you post
about and talk about applies toadults too.
Speaker 1 (57:49):
So this will motivate me to keep posting and thank
you yeah, it's official, lindsayPotter and thanks for linking
everything I will.
I feel the same way about you,and you know it.
I am always inspired, andthat's the beauty of being an
entrepreneur.
You do start to surroundyourself with people that lift
you up, people that have been inthe space where you want to go,
and people that support you,you know, and also will call you
(58:10):
out when you're doing thingsyou shouldn't be doing.
Speaker 2 (58:13):
Don't waste your time .
Don't waste your time, so thankyou so much.
Speaker 1 (58:17):
It's always a joy talking to you and I.
This is really motivating me toget back on the podcast train,
so thank you.
Speaker 2 (58:24):
You are welcome, and we're going to launch this for
back to school because thetiming is perfect.
That's when all the athletesreally need as much help as
possible, so we will launch thisfor back to school.
So welcome back to schooleverybody.
Speaker 1 (58:33):
Thank you, lindsay.
Have a beautiful week.
Okay, talk soon.
Speaker 2 (58:37):
Bye, Thank you.
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