In this tender moment from Episode 23, Mickelle revisits a rich, emotional conversation with Kris Herwig as she reflects on the deeply intentional process behind her family’s most recent move. What once felt like an automatic “yes” to opportunity evolved into a season of active reflection, weighing values, emotional needs, and the unique challenges of uprooting with older children. Through tears, lists, and long talks, Kris and her husband navigated uncertainty to redefine what home could mean—this time not just for them, but for their growing kids.
What stands out is the emotional labor of expat life—how choosing where and how to live isn’t a one-time decision, but an ongoing, layered process. Kris recognized that this move was different: she was now raising Third Culture Kids. She dove into the literature to better understand their emotional landscape and the long-term impact of mobility on growing children. And as always, Mickelle brings care and presence into the space, having walked the journey of goodbye alongside Kris, honoring the endings with ritual and heart.
Key Moments:
- Shifting from passive to intentional decision-making for big life decisions
- Creating space for emotion and uncertainty when moving to a new country
- Navigating a move with children and teenagers while keeping their mental health at the forefront
- The realities both good and hard of raising Third Culture Kids
- Redefining home for your family
- Honoring endings through ceremony and friendship
To connect with Mickelle or learn more about personalized rituals for transition, visit houseofperegrine.com or find her on Instagram @houseofperegrine. You can find the original episode and all the details at www.houseofperegrine.com/podcast/ep-023.
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