PlayStation 30th Anniversary Is Here! Which Era Is The Best?? | House Of Wolves Podcast

Episode 148. In this episode we discuss our Holiday recap and the PlayStation 30th Anniversary activities. We then have a heated debate about which PlayStation era is the best,

Intro: 00:00

Playstation 30th Anniversary Quiz: 39:36

Which Playstation Console Was The Best?: 46:36

Episode Transcript

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Let them come. This is their fate.

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Get my burger man hands in there.
All right. All right.
Welcome back to the House of Wolves podcast.
I am your host, Deontay, here with my near and dear friends, Jalen and Josh.
And today we got quite a bit to talk about.
So not really, but we're going to keep it going as usual.

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We got a fun one with this PlayStation quiz they dropped.
Got to talk about a little bit about Microsoft in their whole
Indiana Jones coming to PS5, PS5, PlayStation, dropping the trailer for that as well.
Getting that
that promotion out there really is.
It's funny to see in all the right ways, I suppose.

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But yeah, we got some stuff to talk about.
But before we get started, per usual
Jalen Josh, tell people how you been, what you've been up to,
what you've been doing, how's life going, what you've been playing recently.
Any shenanigans you got into shenanigans, as I say, the word shenanigans.

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Anything going on that you want to discuss with the people?
Talk to the people.
All right, cool, cool.
So I'll start up front as far as games this week.
Barely got to play anything.
Just again, a busy week.

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So we have our Thanksgiving with the family.
We didn't have like a Thanksgiving here at our house in Japan.
But we we have some like American friends that we end up
like going over their house, like a friends giving thing.
And yeah, everybody brought a dish.
And so it's pretty, pretty nice to bring Thanksgiving.

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So I didn't make anything.
My wife made
a good hand up bringing.
So we wanted to try to like find like collard greens,
but that wasn't going to be possible in the end.
It won't be possible in at least where we live.
If we lived in like Tokyo, it's like some import stores or like,

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you know, like African stores that have that type of stuff,
but not at least not where we know of in Osaka.
But she made banana pudding and.
Lasagna and then
the friend that we went over, he's from New York,
so he made jerk chicken and some other stuff.

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So it ended up being like a pretty decent American meal.
You know, maybe not our turkey and cranberry sauce.
They didn't have no turkey.
I love baby talk with the lamb.
The lamb chops.
But now it's still good.
But go ahead. Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah, that was a good celebration.
And then, you know, back to work and take care of the baby.

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But we so for me, I guess it's been a busy couple of days
for two reasons.
One, we got a 3D printer for Black Friday.
Told you about last week, you know, I might make a couple household
knickknacks here and there or something.
But everybody in the house is interested in it.
And so it seemed like a decent purchase.

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So we got it. I set it up.
It's pretty easy to set up.
But there are two different type of 3D printers.
One is just PLA.
Basically, it's just like a plastic thing.
It just wraps around and makes the shape.
And the other is resin, which is like literally a liquid.
We got a resin printer.
And it's a lot of maintenance and safety that you have to do.

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Like I wear a.
Like a spray paint mask when I'm working with the.
The resin, you got to do a lot of cleaning, a lot of curing.
So like it comes out, you got to put under UV light
after you wash it and everything.
So it's a whole ordeal like setting it up.
And it feels like a lot of people describe it as like a science experiment.

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And like, yeah, if you all remember.
Science class, you know, you go in, you got to put on your apron,
you got to wipe down stuff and when you're done, you can wash it all.
So that's basically what it's like.
And so after all that set up in preparation,
I tried to print with it like two times and it didn't work.
And so I had to figure out what's wrong with it.
And it turns out temperature also matters.

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So if your house is too cold, they can print.
So anyways, after a whole, I say what?
One that like it's like two days of mess around with it after work.
I got it to work yesterday.
So I'm going to start printing stuff and it it's annoying,
I guess, to do all that set up.
But once it actually works, it's like, oh, yeah, this is cool.
And I can see why people will put up with it because the resin printer

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versus the other one, the PLA, they come out more, I guess,
like a finished and like smooth.
A smooth finish, whereas like the other one, you have to sand it
and do a lot of extra stuff to it.
So anyways, yeah, so far, I'm pretty happy with how that's working,
but I haven't made anything for me personally, just like the test files
that they send with the printer.

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Other than that, I've been working a lot.
But yesterday, like I guess it started two days ago, but, you know,
working on the computer all day, got my little
work mouse that suck and my wrist start hurting,
just like rubbing against the desk and just using it a lot.
Yeah. But then yesterday,

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it happened like I was at work for like 30 minutes and my wrist was hurting
already. So OK.
And it turns out it was getting worse and worse.
So by halfway through the day, I couldn't do any more work
because both my wrist was hurting too much.
So I had to try to figure out some sort of solution.
Like, I don't think it's full on carpal tunnel yet, but it's like.

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At least the motions that I'm doing at work is my my body is too tired for it.
So I try to like wrapping up my wrist, you know, cover them up
with something on desk that helped for a little bit.
But still, when you really, you know, doing repetitive motions is not that helpful.
So yesterday went out shopping and I was like,

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yesterday went out shopping, see if I can get some things
just to help out and see how it goes.
One, of course, is like the little wrist rest pad thing
that you put on your desk to rest your wrist on.
So it's not contacting the desk, which is causing more friction.
The second thing is I looked at a bunch of mice, computer mice.

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And like they're, you know, they have vertical mice now.
So instead of the flat ones that you're used to is turned like on the 90 degree angle
or like 45 degree angle.
So your at least your wrist is not turned.
I looked at a bunch of those. I didn't see one at a light.
So I end up picking up a trackball mouse.

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Which I don't know if you've seen them, but it looks like a regular mouse.
But on the left side of it, it's a giant ball that you use your thumb
to move the cursor with.
So the mouse doesn't actually move at all.
Like you don't move the mouse at all across the table.
The mouse stays completely still.
And you use the ball with your thumb to roll around the screen.

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So a lot of people said that it's going to take a big like learning curve.
And that's why a lot of people don't like it.
But honestly, I don't know if it's just from playing like games or stuff like that.
It's not that bad as far as like learning curve.
The only thing I'm getting used to is like the speed.
Because like if I set the speed too high, then like it will zoom around too much.

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But if it's too low, then I have to like, you know, roll the ball,
then pick up my thumb to go back to the other side and roll it again
to like get across the whole screen.
So I'm trying to dial in, I guess, my speed like DPI settings.
Yeah. But so far, I haven't used it at a whole workday.
So I don't know if it's going to be the final solution.

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But so far, I do feel like less pressure on my body just like using a mouse.
So yeah, that's the two big things I've been working on this week.
Yeah, that's a that's a pretty big one, Gene.
I ain't going to lie to you. I think that that one getting older,
told that when the job has like a straining,

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where you constantly doing that same thing over and over again, like Karina
at the same situation, bro, we had to get her one of those vertical ones
like he's talking about because it basically it releases the risk
from having to do much work.
I don't know how much the trackball will because you're still sitting
in that particular motion.
I don't know how much. Yeah, it's the same position. Yeah.

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Actually, the first thing I'm a print with the 3D printer is a is a little stand
because basically I didn't want to spend like that.
There's some trackball mice for like two hundred dollars.
I didn't want to spend that.
So I got a cheaper one that I like, but I'm going to print a stand
because the more expensive ones you can adjust the angle of it.

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But I'm going to just print a 3D print a stand at like a 20 degree angle
or something. So at least I have the option like I want to use a flat.
Oh, that's hurting. Let me switch to a different angle.
Yeah. Yeah, that'd be meaningful.
That would I will like to say, you know, you know, me, I got what?

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I got this stupid sciatica and I had to literally go get a whole standing
desk simply because it is like the same stuff.
Basically, you're sitting down and doing the same thing over and over again.
You need those tools and you especially want to, you know, hit up a doctor
or someone to get physical therapy going so that if you can reverse anything,

(10:23):
you will want to start trying to do that sooner than later.
So that'd be, you know, after you try all those things, see what it does.
If it's not really helping, I think having some exercises
or looking up some exercise, if you don't want to go to the physical therapy
to kind of help with the wrist, because I know that that is extremely important.

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Just like the rest of you.
So but OK, I mean, that's a that's a tough one to be over the holidays.
You're trying to get some, you know, Thanksgiving turkeys and then you got to deal with that.
So that's kind of crazy.
But what about you, Jaylen?
What you been up to? What you been doing?

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Anybody mess up the macaroni or anything like that?
Yeah, so I mean, I guess they haven't heard about my metaphor escapade.
But basically, long story short, I like to talk about my mishaps and quarrels and things
because I feel like it's just I've got a pretty lighthearted approach to these things.

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So I may take full responsibility.
I'm in a rush trying to get to the airport.
You ain't got to download my day.
So they won't contact.
All right. I'm going to say in the answer.
So or the way the answer won't put it.
I deleted my demo and I started trying to play metaphor.

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And I couldn't find my demo data and I had to start all over.
Well, why would you delete the demo to install the game?
I mean, I gave the story in the simplest way possible.
That's what you want, ain't it?
Now, my my latest story here, I was like, first of all, you heard last week.
I'm going to get a more exciting version.
You heard last week that I had bought a key online in the midst of the podcast.

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I got my key to work.
I was able to retreat at my house.
I had to do it, do it, do.
So in the midst of trying to download my key, you know, I'm a lady at this point
all the time. I got to get to the airport and X amount of time.
It ain't enough time to finish down on a demo because I'm fresh off
of work with you. You feel me?
Left my steam deck in a car.

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It was cold outside.
For some reason, when it get cold and the steam, it wasn't even that cold, though.
But it got cold enough for my steam deck battery just died.
And I did that before, except it was sub zero outside.
I'm going to miss a chart and I'm going to run out of time.
Hey, bro, what's the Wi-Fi to your crib or whatever?
You know what I'm saying?
Finally get the Wi-Fi instead of trying to download it.
I'm like, man, I ain't going to finish it, bro.

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Luckily, I got my second phone on me using the hotspot.
So I'm over here trying to get that mug downloaded, get it started.
So I did get it started.
Deleted Mass Effect, Mass Effect,
110 megabytes metaphor probably like 80.
I'm like, man, I just need to delete this mug and we win it.
Deleted that mug, start downloading.
It ain't working no more.
I'm looking like, what you mean? It ain't enough space.

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So now I got to delete either Kingdom Hearts.
I got 256 gigabytes.
I know y'all probably wondering why you ain't got a terabyte.
It don't matter.
It don't matter because I bought three games off of Steam probably in my life.
Oh, this is the third one.
They say the third time to turn.
That mug ain't enough space.
I'm like, I already deleted Mass Effect.

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What more y'all want from me?
And Tyrese boys, what more do you want from me?
I was like, shoot, I guess I got to delete this demo.
You know, I'm used to playing PlayStation and Xbox and stuff like that.
I'm like, well, they always save all the files in the save data utility.
So I can delete my game and just retrieve my save files.

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Woo woo woo.
Man, I deleted that mug, finished downloading that mug.
After an hour, I had to use my hotspot and stuff.
My phone on flame.
Temperature hot, cool down.
I could have just throw it outside and let the wind catch it.
You know what I'm saying? Cool it off.
But I download, I started playing.
I just like, oh, y'all can't find nothing.
I'm like, damn.
I was like, I'm going to call you right back.

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Like, I can't, I can't do nothing, bro.
So luckily, it's only just the demo data.
I was awesome. B.S.
I probably fell asleep playing a couple of times for my game playtime.
But it's like six hours on that demo.
I had got back to where I was and more like an hour or something like that,
because I sped through it.
So, man, I was going better than what I was.
But, you know, as the user, I just I assumed then I had that time constraint.

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Everything bad always have with the time constraint,
because the other thing, the reason I didn't buy another key
and try to deal with stuff on the back end, why I meant just gave my refund back
because of the time constraint would have probably put me in a worse condition,
just like this did, because I'd be rushing when I'd be trying to do stuff at the last minute.
So anyway, moral of the story, don't delete your games on the Steam Deck

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unless you know they uploaded to the cloud save.
And I didn't know about the cloud save. I don't ever use it.
I was like, wait, wait, wait, there's more.
Yeah, the way you describe you like use cases, you you have to be keep like conscious.
Like if you are using the callus saves, like you got to close the game and let it sync.

(15:38):
You got to do that when you're on Wi-Fi and stuff like that.
You got to double check that it did it.
Sometimes when you launch the game, it'll do it automatically.
And so it's cool. But yeah, I mean, I think you weren't rushing.
You could you could have got through that.
But you, Jaylen, seem like a pick up and play type guy.
You think about interactions.

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I think about that. I know you'll be added.
Make it so I'm trying to reorganize my stuff.
And I ain't doing none of that.
But I don't know. Actually, the last time I was on desktop mode,
I'm getting that mug, cutting the game on and cutting up.
If any time I'm closing out the game on my Steam Deck is because my Steam Deck died on me.
Right. Because now, you know that mug, if I got a game running in the background,

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I might got three days in it before it just shut off on you completely.
So I make sure I keep it on the charger stuff.
But but do not fear because I'm six, seven hours in metaphor.
And I didn't beat the first dungeon and all this other type of stuff.
And I'm enjoying the game. So it's cool.
Yes, it's very A OK.

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And I found out that I'm over here struggling in a dungeon.
I'm like because I was in that play through.
I was in the lead of Dungeon.
I'm like, man, I got no more MP, you know, for some of the games.
What's the man? No more MP, no more MP.
I got to get out because it's safe for me. And.
But somebody is like, yeah, you know, if you put the the mage is your passive

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and you go kill the overworld enemies and stuff like that, they replenish your MP.
I'm looking like what?
They should have never told me that.
I was in there just looking like, yeah, I'm like, I'm like, I'm right.
And what? OK, let me go ahead and go kill some dogs that are to a hole through a wall.
And I'm back like I never left.
I'm in that mug fully, fully rejuvenated, bro.

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So I was in there going crazy.
I'm like, they should have never told me that job, bro, because I'm.
So I was able to get through the dungeon in one day, basically.
Heard it was a decent game.
So I got it. I got it.
I got to finish it up.
But yeah, it's definitely
probably safe to say,

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Jalen is probably in the running for probably
most non-technical gamer I've ever met, for sure.
He's he's barely being Terrence, barely being Terrence.
Now, he knows a lot about games.
It's just the technical part where he'd be like, I'll I'll go read it if I need to.
But I even I even to go look for it.

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That's for sure. So it's that that is the difference between you and Jalen.
The difference between you and Terrence, like y'all,
y'all both have like the same approach,
but you actually go a step above him in regards to just look at something,
take that information and apply it versus like not doing any of that step.

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So it's like, yeah, yeah.
It's very interesting how y'all approach the gaming at all.
I always spend an whole bunch of time where I get sleepy easily,
especially if I'm just trying to do something, if something ain't working my way.
I didn't have my air with the PSP and going through that rabbit hole.
Like that used to be like if it's one thing that'll piss me off,

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it's spending a couple hours trying to do something.
And it just still don't work from an issue that you can't identify
until somebody come out with a patch or work around.
And I don't want two hours out of my day trying to fix something.
I'm in a worse position than I was because I moved stuff around
and the thing don't even work the way it's intended to no more.
I'm like, I can't just reverse time no more.
You got that rewind clock thing on metaphor.

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I'm like, I need that. I can't do that.
But you should be able to retain like some of those key things you did before.
Like, like, you know how you can, but you got to start over.
I want to rebuild. I don't want to do that.
I don't I don't even want to take it.
I want to build up off of that.
See, take and build up.
I don't want to take extra time to do something and end up back in square.

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I ain't even going to say I'm at the worst position I was.
I'm just saying that's a possibility.
Yeah, I don't want to take something and do something
and then waste two hours doing absolutely nothing
because I couldn't get it to work.
That drives me crazy.
I mean, I just come on with you said it with the metaphor.
You like you did.
It took seven hours.
Took you an hour because you knew all the information.
Are you talking about that party?

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Yeah, just keep applying it.
I thought you meant on the back end, like doing messing around
with settings and just other stuff like that.
Yeah.
So, yeah, I mean, with that type of stuff.
Yeah, I mean, I can I just I think the biggest thing with metaphor.
I wasn't looking stuff up because I'm trying to play the game more blindly.
But I do realize that if I play the game more blindly,

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I can miss out on a lot of things and then on top of that,
I could spend more time playing it.
But it's I started looking up stuff just a little bit because I'm like,
I need to know when a boss coming up.
I need to do this and that because I don't want to, you know,
I'm trying to play the game right.
Well, I ain't going to say it's the right way.
I just want to but I was like, I don't want to waste time
because I can tell this game can easily take a lot of time from me.

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And when I know those things, I don't mean to make this intro real long.
I spent a lot of time running back and forth through the dungeons,
replenishing my MP.
That might take me like 20 minutes to go through and do.
But I'm like, really, it probably easier
to just go to the next day and just start to keep going.
It probably it probably take me five minutes to do that.
But overall, it's probably better if I just do it this way still.

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But again, it takes a little bit more time to do that
because I got to go switch the hill.
I got to go do this or whatever.
I got to go put Trudy first aid on, go heal all my people, put the major,
I'll go through kill the things, go let the leave and let it resu.
Like all that little tedious stuff.
It takes more time to do all that than it do to just to go play through the game.
But if you deal with it on the front end, you might be like, dang,

(21:24):
I'm in a bad situation with this boss because I didn't prepare this right way
and X, Y, Z, not spending more time and I need to go do this stuff anyway.
So it's just it depends on a game.
I want to know games you easily take a lot of time.
So I just was like, I deal with it on the front end right now.
It's probably the lack of wanting to repeat

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or wanting to see everything, but not at the waste time doing it again,
because it's like tough to to not want to seek out
on like the little extra Easter egg stuff.
And then it's tough to do it because at that point you wasted so much time
that you probably don't finish the game.
Like with persona, I get burnt out by the end of it.

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So I'll be like, it might be better for me to go through it with a guy.
But I want to. Yeah. And that makes sense.
I use it to some capacity just like so I'm not just doing stuff where like,
all right, what is enemy resistant to this than a third?
Make sure you bring this type of art.
Sorry. Oh, I didn't know that.
I've been trying to fight an uphill battle with this dude.

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And I'm using these things.
And like I like to rewind clock like to get all the little enemy data.
So if I go through some some enemies, I go through and use every single attack
on a rewind, start the battle over and you might need to rush to the battle.
And then he's helped out the subsequent battles rather than guessing.
Had them use repel or block and all this other type of stuff on me
and extending the battles.

(22:50):
They have. So I really like that rewind.
Yeah, they have been doing a lot of better job of allowing
like the stuff you can already look up to find
like a mechanic to put in the game to make it easier for people
because you can look up every fight and be like, who was his weakness?
But if they have an option for you to like restart it
because you didn't guess right and it's a difficult battle, it's kind of like,

(23:13):
oh, that's cool, too. You know, it makes me.
It's not like me to go through to play it without, you know,
looking at other stuff too.
Yeah, because I was definitely doing our persona through.
I wouldn't be as this and then some of the guys be wrong and they be like,
yeah, he waked the fire in with fire absorb.
I'm like, huh? I'm like, man, not if you know, they're going to go crazy on me.
It ain't like you could reset the clock.

(23:34):
I'm like, dang, I don't take damage.
And I don't waste it.
This Hillman and who you ought to mess up my overall progress today.
So but other than that, everything must move.
Thanksgiving was smooth. I went down.
I had a big Airbnb is like 20 people in there.
It's like my aunt, you like her boyfriend family and then my family

(23:55):
had got the mac and cheese and the yams to touch each other.
They was joining forces fusion dance, put our ring, you name it.
But I'm looking like I had to bring some back on the airplane.
Oh, so it was like, well, he already posted up a cup.
You only post a cup.
So I was like, hold up. He not like the food.
So you like the food.
Now I was editing this video.

(24:16):
I had to like a little skit thingy, too.
I was getting sidetracked the whole time.
But anywho, I'm going to drop that on YouTube. Stay tuned.
Um, it's like three minutes.
But anywho, it was small.
My friend is like, hey, too bad you can't bring no food back and stuff.
I thought you would. But then I thought about it.
It's like me.
He's going to bring food on a plane back site.

(24:38):
Put that junk right in the plastic bag
and brought that right on Frontier Airlines.
I put that right in my hoodie pocket of the plastic bag of Thanksgiving food.
I said, I'm bringing it back, bro.
These games and and mac and cheese, but I'm going to power up on them, bro.
Oh, my God. Did all that.

(24:58):
Not the back here on the.
Yeah, the Tupperware plates all on the plane in the front.
No, they was all in it was the, you know, mac and cheese and yams.
They don't discriminate with each other.
They can, you know, I'm saying, sit in the same bag.
So they're sitting in the same bag and I brought them back with me.
And I'm just a bag full of mac and cheese.
The yams. It wasn't a bag.

(25:19):
It was a plate.
You're talking about a Tupperware bowl.
You just in the same like in the same.
No, it was in a plastic ziplock bag.
It was ghetto ghetto.
I ain't gonna say that. I ain't a good word is is tacky as tacky can be.
Yes, that's me.
You brought that junk came back, you know, bacteria.

(25:41):
Probably forming all on that junk room temperature and stuff like I'm looking like.
Soon as I go on a micro even a neutralize that bacteria
and get back to doing what we're doing.
Hey, sitting at the crib.
I'm looking like man is your fire, bro?
You never got to overshare.
Yeah, I was like, I was trying to say.
No, no, they they don't even matter, bro.

(26:05):
What they gonna do?
So yeah, the Tupperware.
When you get on Frontier Airlines, they'd be on trash.
And I remember I seen somebody stuff not be able to fit because of the shape.
The bag fluid.
You know what I'm saying?
You can bend it up how you need to.
I'm good.
I'm good, bro.

(26:26):
So anyway, I had a good Thanksgiving.
Yeah, but that concludes everything.
I'm a keep playing metaphor.
And I got the Dallas on 8K next week, next weekend in black excellence.
So that's it.
Gotcha.
OK, OK.
Well, that's cool.
That's cool.
That's cool. Same thing.

(26:49):
I mean, I mean, I did a lot of I do a lot.
I mean, I had the whole week off from work, so I was just chilling, playing some games, trying to get basically just trying to get stuff done.
I didn't really do.
I didn't do much gaming.
I tried.
Actually, I did play a lot of stellar blade.
And right now, I ain't saying that it's a bad game, but it's not a game that I would I wouldn't give it a great action.

(27:23):
No, is it great?
Right.
What parts don't you like about it?
I almost don't like all of it, except for like the graphics.
And I'm just like, OK, it's cool.
I like the fact that it got a lot of cut scenes.
I wasn't expecting a lot of cut scenes.
I like the fact that they tried to like to add the production there.

(27:44):
I just honestly I play better action games and I've definitely played better story games.
So I really don't have like a big, meaningful thing that's keeping me going.
I like the outfits.
I ain't gonna lie.
I was like, that's about it.
I ain't gonna hold you.
I was like, I like putting her in different outfits.
But that ain't enough to keep playing no damn game.

(28:07):
So I'm just like, I don't I honestly would just be like at this point want to stop.
But I would rather play it through to give an honest opinion at the end.
I'm not saying I'm forcing myself to play it because I'm not like, oh, this is a bad experience.
It's just not a it's not something great or good.

(28:28):
It's just it's just there.
Like I could easily go back and just play Devil May Cry 5 Special Edition and have more fun.
But I'm going to keep going.
And if definitely not the combat not evolving is really getting on my nerves.
Like it's not changing.
And I'm pretty far like twenty like 13, 14 hours in.

(28:54):
So it's not like I've just been not playing it.
Are you doing the open road stuff?
I am.
And I am trying to I am doing the open world stuff.
I just got my second hyperdrive or whatever.
So I got another list of laundry to do or basically quest.
And some of them are cool.
I'm not like mad at them.

(29:15):
And some of them aren't.
But it's just giving me.
I don't know.
Final Fantasy seven vibes where the side secondary quest, which is terrible.
And I'm just like, there are nothing to do here to actually experience it.
But some of them, like I said, there are some that are actually funny and I enjoyed.
But as you stated, the act in this whole trocious, they don't really know how to act.

(29:41):
They can't they just deadpan lines.
You don't even know if these people are angry or happy.
So it is a lot of just how did people find this?
And the question and people is enjoying enjoying it.
Yeah, I think.
I think you're right.

(30:02):
People definitely gas do when it came out.
But I enjoyed the combat.
But I think the best part of the combat is when you fight other like human people, like when you find the random beast or stuff like that, it's pretty boring.
Like the second to last boss, I think is pretty good, like even compared to other action games.

(30:26):
But that's like the second to last box is not even most enemies in the game.
The open world stuff, it kind of sucks.
I deal like that first desert idea, every quest there.
And then they put me in the second desert.
I was like, I'm not touching any of this.
I skipped everything.
The voice acting was terrible.

(30:47):
I hated it. I put it in Korean.
I don't even understand Korean, but it sounded better.
So that's how I played it.
And overall, I think the I mean, I know you say you don't like the combat.
I think it's the combat is not interesting enough to be a open world game where it's constantly evolving.
If it was literally just a linear game like Devil May Cry, it would probably feel better because you're not wasting time fighting the same enemies.

(31:12):
So by the end of it, I think the combat was probably the stronger point once you get unlocked all the abilities and all the transformation and stuff like that.
But yeah, it's.
I enjoyed it, but I couldn't give you higher than a seven, probably like a six, depending on how I feel.
Why do you call this stellar blade?

(31:34):
Is something going to happen with the blade or no?
No, no, her sword is not special.
All right.
I just feel like I mean, they're going to explain it.
They're going to explain like what Eve is and who Adam is.
But yeah, I think stellar blade is just like the name is what I call it.

(31:57):
Cool.
I ain't trying to hate on it because it's a it's a game.
I suppose I just I'm as I play it more, I'm starting to realize that some of these folks are insane.
And I think that the best thing that they possibly done with that is the freaking character model.
And I'm just like, I really feel like letting this everything slide because I like looking at this this woman.

(32:23):
That's it. That's it.
I really think everybody's, you know, objectively taking a look at every category and judging it.
Because if they were, this is no way in the maybe maybe as I continue to play it, like I said, I just haven't seen nothing evolve yet.
And I just felt like most action games have like this really cool trajectory where you start to introduce new elements.

(32:50):
I mean, I got a double jump.
I got like a new beta charge right now.
I can do like these are fancier moves.
I'm seeing where they evolve.
I just aren't impressed.
So I'm just like, I don't really know where to go from here with this combat.
So that maybe maybe I'm judging it a little too harshly.
I haven't seen everything yet.

(33:12):
But the little things that I've seen that have been added aren't as meaningful as I once would have thought.
So I think they are letting this slide because it's a pretty little girl.
Yeah, I think that for me, the parry mechanic, like it was pretty basic at the beginning.
I didn't really think it was worth much.
But like I said, when you fight more interesting enemies where you have to pay more attention to how when you parry, because basically, to put it like there are some enemies that are humans that you will parry them.

(33:46):
And you try to do your special attack and then they will parry you back and then they will do their special attack.
And you have to like be paying attention to that type of stuff.
It was like, oh, I never experienced this in this whole game where enemy can parry me.
So maybe I don't want to use my special attack right away.
Right. Yep. I mean, yeah, because right now it does devolve to parry special attack, parry special attack, parry special attack.

(34:13):
And I'm not doing nothing else, really. I'm not dodging.
I'm not using the purple one because I can most of the time just move out the way and they don't hit me.
So I'm just like, hmm, am I playing on the wrong difficulty or am I just not is it not that engaging?
So but I do like going around, find outfits for her.

(34:36):
So maybe I'll just keep going. And that will be enough.
I don't think it will. But it could be.
That's just I'm just being honest. That's the only thing I care about right now.
Yeah, I got to that point, too.
And I just looked up the outfits that I wanted and was like, oh, for this one, you got to catch 60 fish.
I'm like, OK, not doing that. What other ones can I do easily?

(35:00):
And so, yeah, I just I did the ones I could find easily and then skip the rest.
But I'll say, like, once you leave the open world, I think the second open world level and just start literally doing the linear levels.
Yeah, I think the linear levels are are better, like better bosses and just better pacing.
But yeah, so cool. Yeah.

(35:23):
OK, well, that's what I was playing. I've been playing that lately.
I switched off a little bit to Avatar to test out the PSSR stuff, which we can kind of talk about a little bit later.
And then I was also going out buying Christmas gifts for the kids, for my my children, my niece and nephew, and then my little brother.

(35:51):
So they all got switches now. So I bought end up buying them Pokemon cards and tears of the kingdom because it was 30 bucks.
And kind of wanted to give them something that they could like play for a while or at least have some fun with.
And I love the fact that tears of the kingdom is jumps right more into that creativity portion of it where you got to create stuff and build stuff.

(36:15):
And you can like just play in it. It's like a playful world like that.
So I thought given that would be dope. I was laughing. I was talking about brother body.
He's like, oh, yeah, I want to play that. So, yeah, you could definitely cop that for mostly.
It's not for you. It's for it's for my nephew.
But it's just funny because those games kind of are good for adults and your children, which is kind of hard to do.

(36:44):
But then tend to pull it off quite a bit. What else? What else?
That's about it. I mean, I really like Dragon Age Velgar.
I let my subscription lapse and I think I'm a cash it on a sale and try to finish it up.
The cool thing about Ubisoft is that it allows me to continue my saves from my PC on my PlayStation, because I was that's what I did with Avatar.

(37:13):
I know that EA has some functionality like that.
I'm hoping I can do that with Dragon Age if I cop it on PlayStation.
But at the same time, I could just buy it on the PC.
And but it's a hassle because I like the living room set up.
I like actually sitting in front of the big screen and just laying back on the couch and playing a game.

(37:36):
It helps me immerse myself a little bit more and I would have to just do two extra steps to get my PC up to my TV versus turn it on the PlayStation and go.
You know, so I'm trying to avoid that as some lazy stuff, but it is it is honestly a it's a detractor from experience in the game,

(38:01):
because I could definitely have played that a little bit while I was still under my thing, but I just didn't feel like switching out and moving my my main monitor to the TV and going through all that whole hassle and stuff like that.
So just didn't do it.
I would love it when they bridge the gap between this PC and my living room set up.

(38:25):
Steam will do it. I don't know what they'll make, but I'm pretty sure they'll do it.
But yeah, that's pretty much what I've been up to. I've been doing much food was great.
We had lamb chops instead of turkey, which is awesome.
Oh, oh, these intros are mad long. Jesus.
But like I said, lamb chops was delicious. Kids ate good.

(38:50):
We ate good. No family came up this time. So we're gonna try to get them to come a little bit later.
Overall, I really had a lot of fun just hanging out with the kids and chilling for a while.
We started watching Harry Potter and they watched Fast and the Furious Tokyo Drift with me.
And that was that's that's that's one of their favorite movies now because all the cars and crashes because they love cars right now.

(39:17):
And I asked them how they felt about the movie afterwards and Aiden screams.
It was amazing. I was like, I bet it was. I bet it was. I like it's crashes, right?
So, yeah, it was it was fun just hanging out with them over the holiday break.
But let's get into our first topic, and it's semi a topic, semi not.

(39:44):
It's the PlayStation 30th anniversary quiz.
I found this on there. If you go to PlayStation dot com right now, you can check this out if you want to.
But it's just simply a quiz.
Really wanted to test my knowledge of my friends before you go into our next topic here.
So I'm going to go ahead and take this. It says, if you're a PlayStation super fan or just want to test your knowledge of 30 years of play,

(40:12):
try this multiple choice quiz and claim a downloadable wallpaper for your phone, tablet or desktop at the end of taking apart or for taking part.
Oh, it says you'll find the clues you need in our PlayStation history timelines page above if you get stuck.
All right. The birth of PlayStation.

(40:35):
Not as tough. I don't even know what date did the original players and console launch in Japan, December 3rd, 1994.
September 9th, 1996.
August 6th, 1991.
I mean, I don't know if we can chime in, but say 94.

(41:01):
Same. I would say that is the same.
They don't give us the answer. So we don't know. We just go on.
Iconic PlayStation game.
Which high speed PlayStation title featured anti gravity racing in a thumping soundtrack?

(41:22):
Everybody knows that. What do you think? It's Gran Turismo, Resident Evil 2 or Wipeout.
Everybody should know that.
Oh, these are easy. Hold on. Let me see if they get harder inside the PS2 console.
What was the name of the PlayStation 2 consoles revolutionary CPU?

(41:43):
That's a tough one. I don't know. It was either the flux capacitor, emotion engine or blast processor.
Emotion. Emotion. Oh, OK. We go with emotion.
Gaming on the go. What was the full name of the compact plastic case media on which PSP games were stored?

(42:09):
Everybody knows this one. Unbelievably massive disc digital versus disc universal media disc.
They made it so easy. Universal media. Universal media.
Exploring PlayStation 3. What was the name of the PlayStation 3 menu system that allowed players to navigate their games, apps and media?

(42:32):
The PlayStation home, media menu or the cross media bar?
XMB. XMedia bar.
I did not know that at all. To navigate. XMB. I didn't know that.
Yeah, that's the default that they use for everything where it's like the sliding menus and stuff.

(42:56):
I would back relates to say on the PSP do this on the XMB do this on the third. I'm like, bro, what is the XMB? I don't see XMB.
Play through the apocalypse. Which post apocalyptic PS4 game features two characters still enjoying their beloved PS Vita consoles?

(43:17):
The Left 4 Dead Last of Us Part 2. Near Autonoma. Automata, sorry.
I'm almost certain this is the stupid last of the skin.
Of course they had to throw some Last of Us in there.
Yeah. Don't you put that girl on SILR PSP or you just kill her?
I don't remember. I think you kill her and just let her put it down.

(43:40):
It's the NPC that's like playing it. Yeah. PSP and then Ellie like stab her in the neck or something.
She was playing a Vita. I was like, wow, I know they go put that in there.
A PlayStation 4 showcase. Which game preloaded on PS4 consoles used the PlayStation camera and DualShock 4 controller to showcase augmented reality experiences?

(44:04):
The Last Guardian, Playroom and NAC. Playroom. You said PS4? It was PS4.
Yeah, I guess the Playroom. Because it showbent the augmented reality experiences. I'm almost certain it was the Playroom.
First steps into the virtual worlds. Which PlayStation VR title features a collection of minigames, including the London Heist and Danger Ball?

(44:33):
The Getaway, Astrobot Rescue Mission, PlayStation VR Worlds. These are easy.
PlayStation VR Worlds. A new way to play.
What's the name of the PS5 controller released in 2023 that features back buttons and custom DualSense Edge?

(44:56):
2023. That's not as snagic. They just want to sell y'all stuff. Feel a new reel.
What new feature did the PSVR2 Sense Controller introduce that enhanced the immersive experience?
Don't nobody know because nobody bought it. Dual Vibration Motors, changeable analog sticks, finger touch detection.

(45:18):
I think it was that finger touch stuff. What was the thing?
It says what new features did the PSVR2 Sense Controller introduce that enhances the immersive experience?
I'm pretty sure it's the finger touch detection.
Oh, look at that. Look at us knowing our history. We scored a 10 out of 10, fellas.

(45:44):
Man, I want no history. They were just asking if it was current stuff.
They were really, like I said, they were trying to sell you something. I'm like, why nobody? I don't care about the PSVR2.
None of that makes sense to be in this 30th anniversary.
Ask about Jack and Daxter, bro. What about Crash Bandicoot?
They didn't ask anything about the PS3.

(46:06):
No, they didn't ask anything about the PS. Oh, they asked about that XMB, right?
But that started the I guess it was on the PS3, but it kind of sucked. It was better on the PSP.
Oh, yeah. Well, that was pretty basic.
Sony, get your act together, but I will download this tablet and desktop wallpaper.

(46:32):
Save. But OK, I wanted to start that up because you already know where I was going next. What was?
And I guess this is definitively I guess we can argue it because I'm hoping we all got different answers.
But which was the definitive generation for PlayStation?

(47:00):
I guess let's all state it and then we can discuss.
Hopefully we don't have to say, but though.
Hmm. Yes. Oh, baby. Yes, too.
Well, I'm also as for for the for argument sake.

(47:24):
I'm not saying that the PS2 wasn't, you know, amazing, but I will say that the PS4 at least.
But PlayStation where it is today because it kind of continuation
and is really important for a lot of things that happen during the PlayStation 4 era.

(47:47):
So I'm a say I'm a. I agree with Jalen, but one for argument sake,
but also because I guess I'm learning how good the games were.
I'm a say PS1. PS1.
Mm hmm. Hmm.
You know, what's tough about the PS1 era is that most most of my gaming with the PS1 was done vicariously through my aunt.

(48:15):
And like I wasn't able to like really enjoy the PlayStation 1 until I got that PS1, the mini one.
And by that time, all the good games were out.
And it was kind of like I wasn't even able to play them yet because I was too young still.
So I don't know. I just couldn't ever resonate with that time.

(48:36):
But yeah, I I think that a lot of the genres were like, oh, well, not all but new.
Like first person shooters didn't play well on PS1.
But a lot of those games started there and I forget how long the PS generation was.
It was like from 94 to like 2000, 2001. They were still making PS1 games.

(49:00):
It was like six, seven, eight years. And then PS2 came out.
Of course, PS2 was great. And it had a long lifespan, too.
Like Metal Gear, Final Fantasy, a bunch of other games started on PS1.
And they're actually still pretty good games to play, even though they're like dated.
So that's that would be the only knock.

(49:21):
But I would say that because of those eight years and like all the franchises that started on PS1 that were actually better than a lot of like the Nintendo games at that time.
The PS1 is probably and I mean, that's the one that like got people paying attention to PlayStation because like before that it was all about Nintendo.
Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I wouldn't disagree with the foundation.

(49:46):
That foundation is always necessary.
But I'm thinking from taking it from this level to the next level, to the level of stardom that it is today.
Like the level of the PS2. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
The PS2 definitely was the defining moment.

(50:10):
But really, and I ain't gonna hold you. I'm not saying that the PS2 wasn't that wasn't it.
But most of them folks bought that for a DVD player.
I mean, that was the best DVD player.
Most of them bought the DVD player.
He bought the PS2 off me, man. He still got it to this day.

(50:33):
Listen to him. Yeah.
Hide your kids. Hide your wife.
The PS2 was the best music player, was the best DVD player.
Yeah. The games. Yeah.
That's why I sold the most. We talking about games. We talking about reasons to buy.
Yeah.
The 60 frames, all the Jack and Dax games.

(50:58):
I'm not saying. I'm not saying.
I'm not saying. But you can knock off at least 60 mil.
Because most of them bought it for a DVD player. They just made it like yeah, it's a DVD player.
And some of those games came with a soundtrack.
So you can just play the soundtrack in the menu.

(51:21):
You got to buy the digital edition to get the soundtrack. Huh?
I mean, I could just beat the game and I'll be GMO.
Was it the latest and two backwards compatible? Right.
The PS1. Yeah. Yeah. And then you have to go out there and turn it on, turn it back on, reset it though.

(51:46):
But the PS4, you ain't got to do all that. You can just pop the disc out, baby.
The best thing about the PS4 is the PlayStation finally had good online.
Like that's the best thing about the PS4.
No, the best thing about the PS4 is the games, the games and what they did during that online.
So the online games like the I mean, yeah, they had to come up with a comparable backhaul system, back system.

(52:15):
So they can actually be a part of that generation of online gaming.
They were terrible. I'm just saying some of the best single player games.
Some of the best single player games to ever made are PS2 games.
I mean, granted, they are. I'm not saying that you're wrong there.
I'm not saying that they didn't make great games after selling a bunch of consoles,

(52:36):
but the buy in came from the amount of the amount sold.
And, you know, all the game, let's look at the franchises that matter on the PS4 are all PS2 games.
God of War is PS2, like Kingdom Hearts, even though that's PS2 game.
They abandoned most of their games for a reason. Not God of War.

(52:57):
They did it. They had to redo it because, like I said, I'm not saying that they don't.
But the reason they did it is because people like Kratos or cared about him from the PS1. I mean, PS2.
I know because the numbers ain't matching.
There's only a certain amount of games that really sold well. And that's what they're looking at.
I'm almost certain that that's how they pick their remasters and what they bring forth,

(53:21):
because literally they're not doing it for any of the other games that came out in that system.
The games that we loved, like literally probably only sold like 10 million, 5 million, not even a lot.
Probably not less than that because they weren't.
But you can look at each one of the titles and they sold 150 million units.
I'm just trying to get y'all to understand that most people bought it for a DVD player.

(53:42):
That's all I'm saying. And the PS4 had to submit themselves as the real gaming place.
Games were not as popular and your grandma had to go stand in line to get the PS2.
And then when GTA came out, you had to do the same thing.
It's a lot easier to sell games quickly now.

(54:04):
So like, man, I don't know what those digital players say.
Drake versus Michael Jackson. They were, of course, Drake sold more because look at all the people.
Let me look at people waiting in line to buy.
Let me see. Jack and Dexter overall sales PS2.

(54:26):
I can almost guarantee you it was a flop.
And most of those sales were probably not even tracked because like they didn't really start tracking sales the same way that they do now.
You mean telling me Snake Eater sold just as much as Jack and Dexter? Get out of here, man.
4 million, bro. I'm telling you that.
And if I look up like the ones that they brought over like God of War.

(54:49):
What was this best selling games during that time?
Like 4 million is not even a low amount.
Well, I guess you're a Kingdom Hearts 2 4.7. God of War 4.6.
That game was amazing. It wasn't amazing.
It wasn't amazing. How much did Drake sell?
But you're talking like these are these are mad in numbers, I suppose, because look, if I'm thinking of it from a perspective of what games were universal,

(55:17):
I would have to go with like Madden, the games that GTA.
How much did the GTA games sell?
Oh, they sold a but low. But let me look it up. GTA.
Remember, it's like four of them. So they also 4 million each.
And they sold San Andreas with over 17 million copies sold, 27.5 million copies overall, 17 on the PS2.

(55:50):
That's the difference. I was. All right.
So if you saw 150 million units, right?
San Andreas, like iconic, like, yeah, it's more iconic than I mean, I say is more iconic than GTA 5.
Like people play GTA online. They only play GTA 5.
All I'm telling you is the reason why we still getting God of Wars because of the sales figures.

(56:16):
I mean, obviously, it was cheaper to play get make games back then as well.
I'm not trying to take I'm not trying to sniff off 5 million copies or nothing like that.
I'm just saying that most people that bought that console.
Yeah, they loved the game, but it was a very small fraction of it.
Like 150 million units tells me like, oh, this was most poppin council out there.

(56:39):
It's not though. It's because literally it was.
And it don't matter because if everybody bought one game, all those 150 million people, they all bought one game and they're all different.
That's the strength of the PS2 is that everybody and they have to play the same game.
We could play different games and love it.
So Jalen got Kingdom Hearts.

(57:01):
Deontay got GTA. I'm over here playing Metal Gear.
It don't matter if they also 30 million because those 160 million people all got different games to play.
It's like the PS4. There's way less games.
So, of course, people are going to buy the same games because there's only one God of War game on the PS4.

(57:22):
It's like on the PS2, it was two God of War games and like three Jack and Dexter's and like all these other games.
So it's like the the amount of games you had to play was so varied that it didn't matter if it was tracked.
And plus, I bought used games.
So, of course, my sales are not tracked for those systems, but they don't mean they got to wear one popular.

(57:46):
That's what you use games that is picked from 1799 Dragon Ball Z, Buddha, Katen, Kaitis.
Yeah, I can't wait to get, you know, PlayStation greatest hits or go down to the best buy, not best buy,
Blockbuster and buy they use games that they sell in.
Or just random for seven days.

(58:07):
But you're not listening to what I'm saying.
I'm saying that literally the sales for the PS4 are huge and they they gave us money.
Yeah, they gave the company a bunch of money.
But the which that's not an identity comes from the PS2 era for 90 percent of people and franchises.

(58:33):
It comes from PS2. I'm not saying.
And again, let me put that disclaimer out there.
This is I'm playing Devils Advocate.
PS2 is my favorite console.
That ain't nothing but GTA.
Man, you know, you're the one talking about playing Devils Advocate for New York.
Yeah, I'm listening to that.

(58:54):
It's a game of all time, bro.
Listen, bro. Listen, bro.
That GTA talking about right now is going like I said, this this bug have multiple in tens of millions.
I understand.
I guarantee a PS2 down there, bro.
I'm telling you.

(59:16):
I'm trying to tell you, G.
Listen, listen, listen, listen.
They hear me well.
I'm talking about infamous second son doing six million.
I'm talking about Detroit becoming.
I know.
This is telling you that this council itself had to become, you know, I'd be like, you know, the PlayStation and like you actually dedicate this council to playing games like the PS2.

(59:49):
I'm just telling you it was the PS3 jacked them up.
Like nobody wanted to buy their media system anymore.
They had to reinvent themselves and create a gaming lineup that made three people want to game on it because it wasn't about.
Yeah, yeah, I get that.
But just to play Devils Advocate with that, the PS3 was still the best Blu-ray player out and the cheapest one that you can get.

(01:00:16):
And people didn't flock to it like they did the PS2 because they didn't have no games.
Because Blu-ray was overrated.
We use Blu-ray nowadays.
We use it now.
I'm not saying we don't use it now.
I'm saying it's overrated.
You know what was overrated?
It was the Xbox.
What?
Nobody had TV's to even match the HDD disc.

(01:00:39):
Nobody had the TV's to match the quality.
The TV's was outrageous.
The market wasn't there yet.
It doesn't matter. I think the PS2 show that if people wanted what you're offering, then they will buy it.
And that's why everybody had a PS2.
You didn't need a special TV to play that PlayStation 2.

(01:01:00):
I mean, it still works on a standard definition.
I didn't have a HDTV for my PS3.
There's more people on the planet, the gaming community way bigger than what it was, and games more accessible.
So why are we facing World Hunger?
Good run.
The PS2 is the greatest of all time.

(01:01:22):
What are you talking about, man?
Your point, I think, you know what I'm saying?
Why are we facing World Hunger?
What are you talking about?
Because everybody bought your PS4s and there's too many people on the planet.
Nah, I'm just lying.
But anywho, in all seriousness though, the PS2, like Josh said, it created a lot of different French or IPs that people still love to this day.

(01:01:45):
Bro, the PS2 is the one that really, really put them on a mission.
Did that GTA station, you can't tell me otherwise.
Bro, you playing Fight for New York, I ain't trying to hear it.
I love that game, by the way.
I'm saying that there is plenty of outliers that people find as their valuable game, but there is more of a collective of games that have showcased not only financially that made sense for the company, but also showcase what they are capable of doing.

(01:02:15):
This is big money behind them.
Obviously, we understand that they have a bigger presence now with the PS4, but they lost a lot of credibility when it came to the PS3.
So they had to not only reinvent themselves, but they also did better than they did before.
So I just feel like this is the biggest moment for the era because they had to.

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The only thing they did was just freaking online.
They fixed the online and they, listen, they fixed the online and they undercutted the Xbox market.
Games like World War, games like Marvel's Spider-Man, games like God of War all came out during this era because it had to win.

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Okay, how many games ran okay, bro?
How many games ran great? My bad, ran great. Which games ran great? Came out, didn't need patches, all that type of stuff, bro.
A lot of them games wasn't running.
PS5, you talking about? Don't put us in there with the PS5. PS5 is the PS5.
The PS4 didn't have those games.

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No, I'm talking about the PS4, bro. The PS4 ran as many FPS.
Boy, okay. From software, I can't speak on them. First off, I can't speak on them.
I played that game and guess what? That game was already scratchy, but I bet when I first, that's not my fault.
Them from software games, I'll always give a caveat because anybody, they still play them. They don't care.

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I'm talking about the main ones, the main shows, Uncharted, God of War, Marvel's Spider-Man,
fuck about the main states, Horizon Zero Dawn, after what they came off of, Kyo Zon?
They come back with that? What are you talking about? It's not a debate. This is not even enough for a debate.
Like literally, they had to reinvent themselves. It was. It was.

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They had to reinvent themselves. They had to reinvent themselves.
PS4 was the do or die. PS2 was not. I'm trying to tell you.
They came from a bad situation, but my thing is simply put, bro, simply put from a consumer standpoint,
if you got a game console that's arguably doing the same thing from a normal consumer standpoint,

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you sell them one for $400, you sell them one for $500, and it's coming out before, it's a week before,
which one is people going to gravitate to? It's simple as that.
Wait, say that again? As far as putting the PS4s in people's credit, the PS4 came out.
It came out a week before the Xbox One, right? Yeah. Yeah. I'm almost certain, yeah.

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I would argue the PS4 had less competition than the PS2. Exactly.
Because it went up against Prime Nintendo and Prime Xbox and it still won.
That's because they gave everybody a DVD player. If the Nintendo Switch,
if the GameCube actually had a DVD player in it, I'm pretty sure it sold more.

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They had to do that old stupid stuff. The GameCube came out later too, didn't it? Huh?
Maybe like a year later. It came out after the PS2, if I remember correctly.
Yeah, they didn't have a DVD player in it. But what I'm getting at is if something hit the market
a little bit sooner and it's cheaper in price and stuff, that's going to change the dynamics

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of how many people are going to have a PS4 or a PS2 or whatever system.
Because mommy can't use it too. Daddy can't use it too.
That's the whole point of how we was able to get them in the house anyway.
Like y'all don't get that. Y'all don't remember that fight? I get that. A lot of people didn't buy it
for the games, but that makes the product is still a better product and a reason to have it.

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So it doesn't take away its success. I'm not trying to take no success from them.
I'm trying to say that basically this was a shoe in due to the fact that it wasn't a shoe in.
It was the new technology that they had to develop to put in a cheap system.

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Was their PlayStation 2 lineup actually decent? Was the PS2 lineup decent?
What do you mean? The launch lineup. The launch lineup.
Yes. I ain't going to cap. They had Final Fantasy X, the Bounty of the Dead, and MGS2.
Let me look at the lineup though. They had Armor Corps, Dynasty Warriors, Eternal Ring, Madden NFL, Midnight Club,

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Decent, Reddy Rumble, Ridge Racer, SSX. Bro, what are y'all talking about?
This lineup was not... What am I looking at here? This is the lineup. This is the 2009. 29 different software games.
Let's not do this argument, Deontay. We're going to have to do the first year.
What was the lineup for the PS4? Killzone.

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Let's not do day one. You got to do the first year.
Oh my God, bro. PS4 launch lineup, bro.
For a launch, I was in the store and like, yeah, you could buy Destiny or you could buy Madden.
Destiny was good enough. Destiny was there.

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That's all you needed. Literally. Everybody was playing it. Let me see.
Bro, I bought Killzone. I started playing Warframe. I was forced to play Warframe, bro.
What are you talking about? I'm forced to play Warzone, bro. What are we talking about here?
Destiny ain't come out until what? September 8th, 2014?

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It wasn't even a launch game. It was a launch game.
No, no, no. You're right. You're right. So why you got a PS4? It ain't no games.
Man, chill on me, man. I got Warframe, bro.
Yeah, Warframe was a launch title.
On my 360. I'm playing Dark Souls 2 on my 360 because Killzone said it.
All right. That's a wash. That's a wash.

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And Warzone trash. I'm harder to hear about.
That's a wash. Everything was trash. I got it. Got it. Got it.
That was a terrible. The only thing that came out of that was decent was Red So Good.
Everything else was garbage.
OK, well, let's talk about first year.
The PS4 launched in 2014. We started getting some work.
That's when Josh, bro, when I was on the phone with him, he like, man, you think I should get Destiny, man?

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I want to play it on a PS3. I played the beta. I want to get a PS4.
Man, get that PS4, bro. Just pull it. Pull the trigger, bro.
I need more people to play with on the PS4 because I don't got nobody to play with.
I'm still playing my 360 games for gold.
Yeah. And literally the only game I was playing on my PS4 was Destiny until Bloodborne came out.
But guess what they had to do? They had to go out there and get it because they didn't start with the easy cope of, oh, we got a DVD player.

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And Destiny was a multi-platform game, too. So that didn't even mean they were giving us a win.
It never would have felt like it. It never felt like it.
They had right. Destiny never felt like it was.
Definitely Destiny never felt like a multiplayer or a sorry, a cross-platform game.

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It felt like a PlayStation game. That's where you go get the best experience, period.
That's where that's what it was.
He's got the best experience.
But day one, when people is in Best Buy, you can buy either one.
I'm not saying that you're not right. I'm saying that the.
Yeah, the rate. But I'm just mean they announced that stuff after the game was out.

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Bro, they had PlayStation exclusivity when that was on the box.
I remember seeing the PlayStation get played here first.
Lego on my freaking because I bought. Wait, I don't know if I bought the Destiny one.
I don't remember. I don't remember which one I bought.
But I remember Destiny made me go out and get it.
And that's what I had an Xbox.

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It's also what they had to do.
So I just get people to buy that.
The these this sort of Xbox from Ron. They came out after the PlayStation.
It was one hundred dollars more. And then they had that bad PR stunt with the with the arm.
What was I think it was on E3 like 2013 at E3 when they talked about how to share games with PlayStation.

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They said just get them to this, bro.
That all those things was going against the Xbox and it just made it not even a factor at any point.
The Xbox came out. They had a Master Chief of Collection that did not work.
That did not work. Did I say it didn't work? And they had what? What is that game?
Rise or we're not talking about that.
We're talking about PlayStation 4 and PlayStation 2.

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But I'm telling you the way.
So are you saying that your PlayStation 4 only was successful because we you and the Xbox one was out.
It had a better body in a whole Xbox fail.
If the Xbox didn't fail, then it might have been equal race.
You know how many times I kept getting stuff about the Xbox.

(01:11:34):
They too much Xbox can't get up to 1080. It's only 900 people who will gain by this.
And why would you want to Xbox?
It ain't no point in having the Xbox at that point is not doing what it's supposed to do.
Just get a PlayStation. It's cheaper.
I mean, I'm not I'm saying you're just telling me all the things that they did right.
They capitalized on the market.

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They made sure that they competition stayed looking terrible.
They did the switch up. They made that commercial at E3.
They did all the right things. They were fighting.
I'm telling you why they in the business.
I'm telling you what they launched with trash games.
And I'm telling you that the PS2 did the same.

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And the reason why it's all in the PS2.
The PS2 first year is better than the games are better in the first year of the PS2 than they are for the PS4.
Are we doing research or are we just talking on our net?
Because I don't even know about that.
I'm just trying to make sure that the launch window the first year was truly good.

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Because I don't I don't know that all I know is the liberty came out in 2001.
Let me see first year game.
I remember I was I think I was a second grader.
I was watching Metal Gear Solid 2, Final Fantasy 10.
Just can compete with 90 percent of those launch games for PS4.

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Xbox combined.
And the games work like they work.
You're saying that.
How many games we've seen a work?
Marion Barry.
OK, my bad. I just want to play Destiny.
My friends stop it.

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Stop it. I mean, Devil May Cry came out.
I'm not really seeing Final Fantasy 10 that came out in 2001.
I had a demo this with Final Fantasy.
Was it 2001 or 2000?
When did they come out?
North America Dianne Tate.
The PS2 came out in October 2001.

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So I mean October 2000.
So from October 2000 to October 2001, we got GTA 3.
Where is the Final Fantasy 9?
No, not nine.
I'm bad. Final Fantasy 10 in July.
Sorry, it's not this list is not in order by date.

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I can look at the actual dates.
But yeah, GTA 3, Final Fantasy 10.
What do you know when Metal Gear came out?
I just know it's in 2001.
I'm trying to see if it's in October.
I think it would have been before October.

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Dang, how mighty, how falling.
Kingdom Hearts 3 only sold a million.
Man, that game was...
Is this real?
Is this real?
Silent Hill 2?
I think it's sold more than a million.
That don't make sense because it was a PS4 game.
Yeah, it was a PS4 game.
They said that that's one of the top selling.
It's like level number 39, but it's only one million.

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Then again, this is...
Was it like launch week or something like that?
Or like lifetime?
It says list of best selling PlayStation 4 video games.
But anyways, Silent Hill 2 was also in the first year.

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Okay, I'm not saying that y'all didn't have some heat.
I'm saying that there is...
There's games that are good and then there's games people are willing to play.
I definitely play Silent Hill 2.
I mean, but is that a...
It's culturally successful.
You just re-bought it.
Yeah, it's culturally successful.
I'm not saying that it's nothing.
I'm saying that it's not one of those games that's moving consoles.

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I'm saying why the console moved.
The era.
They want to buy it today.
First off, that game was heavily discounted real recently.
I'm not trying to harp on Silent Hill.
I'm just trying to say that the...
So let me ask this.
Why are people excited for Melted Gear Solid Delta?

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Because it was a great game from the PS2.
And so they have that image.
It has that reputation and they are bringing that forward.
So it's not a win for the PS5.
It's a win for the PS2 for having an iconic game.
And so that's, I guess, the argument that we're trying to get across is that

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the iconicness of PlayStation comes from PS2.
The money comes from the PS4.
Yeah, I mean, they figured out a way...
Look at Game of Thrones 2.
They made a way for you guys to feel comfortable.
And I'm just saying there's games that's been replayed and re-bought
way more often on the PS4 than it has been on the PS2.

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Yeah, the last of us today keep selling it on your notes.
And it still sells well.
Isn't that crazy?
Like, I don't know.
They probably have...
I don't know if the PS2...
No, no, no, no.
So it's not... no backrest compatibility.
That's the problem with the PS4.

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Like, they sold you remakes because you couldn't play your digital games from the PS3
that they wouldn't let you bring forward because they put all those PS2 games on the PS3.
And then they removed that ability on the PS4.
I'm talking about PS4 and PS5 as well.
I'm talking about both slips because I played plenty of PS4 games on PS5.
How many times you bought Days Gone, bro?

(01:17:43):
Dead by Daylight.
No, wait, what's that game you was playing?
No, not...
Dang, what's that parkour zombie game called?
Not Dead by Daylight, not Days Gone.
Man, what's...
You guys are crazy.
Go do that.
Hey, hold on.
I'm not telling you.
I'm not telling you.
Man, I'm getting on his head.

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These flashers is getting on me.
Hold on, bro.
Parkour zombie game.
Daylight, Daylight, Daylight.
Daylight, bro.
How many times you bought Daylight?
I ain't bought that game that many times.
Enough with the hearsay.
Let's get back to these actual topics.

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Like I said, the PlayStation 4 has sold and released more games that people will rebuy
than the other one.
I'm just saying.
I understand the PS2 has a bigger leap in graphical.
Honestly, Silent Hill 2 was one of those ones that just came out.
You got Metal Gear Solid coming out.
I'm saying that the games that we want to play again haven't been remade for a reason.

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I don't know why.
They haven't remade them.
Remade what?
They haven't remade Jack and Dexter.
They haven't remade Sly Cooper.
They haven't remade...
They brought them to the PS4.
Which one?
They don't care about Jack and Dexter?
What they haven't remade?
What's that other game?
I was just talking about it.

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Shoot.
Now you got me.
Now I got to go find my listing.
But anyways, I don't know what else we can argue other than the PS2 had a bunch of original
IPs that are still... people love today or still looks for today.
And so they happy when they see a remake.

(01:19:38):
I think the PS4, like original IPs, are less.
Like if you want to count God of War, which I don't count it for the PS4 because it comes from the PS2,
but it's a different genre.
So maybe.
But like Last of Us and Uncharted are like the best things that Sony...
And I guess it goes to Tsushima and Ryzen.

(01:19:59):
So four franchises from the PS4 versus all the ones from the PS2.
I mean, it's real funny, you know, that there is still...
And what we complained about PlayStation not having like...
Not games, but like interesting.

(01:20:24):
It was the Uncharted clone.
The Uncharted clone came up, was invented during the PS4 era because they kept making Uncharted like games.
Yeah, they were great at storytelling, but couldn't make gameplay that was unique.
They were cookie cutter.
Absolutely right.
The storytelling was amazing.
That's pretty much what they tried to do.
Cookie cutter template.

(01:20:45):
Oh my God.
Here we go.
The templates that...
There was no template for storytelling.
God of War didn't have anything.
So when they gave it a template, it actually elevated the game from what a sorry state it was when the PS2 came out.
I remember Kratos yelling, ARIE!
The sorry state that it was in, and they decided to give it more elevation and elevate it to what it is today.

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Like I said, they had to put work in in order for them to get to where they are.
And I'm not saying that the PlayStation 2 didn't have a great era.
I'm saying that 117 million PlayStation 4s were sold and 160 was on the PlayStation 2.
And I can knock off about 60 million just being DVD players because...

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They don't count though.
It's still a sale.
It does count because I'm telling you, the PlayStation 4 had to define itself as not...
I'm not like them.
I am that dude.
And that's what it was for the entire generation.
And I understand the PS2.
I still play my GameCube.

(01:21:55):
I still play my Xbox when I got it.
But that PS4, once I had it, I ain't turn it on the other consoles.
It was no point.
That's what's the defining of a generation is for me.
And that's how they outplayed it.
That was a failing review and that was a failing Xbox.
They outplayed them.

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Even when I went to go back to play their fun games, supposedly, that came out, I was interested.
I only had like one or two games on the Airbox.
Sunset Overdrive, one other one.
And then on Wii U, I had what?
Maybe Mario Super 3D World.
That was it.
There was like...
Poe Tracker.
So anyways...
Poe Tracker.
That was my damn...

(01:22:38):
You're right.
Poe Tracker.
That was a good redemption.
Great.
It's not just good.
It's amazing.
I'm personally still waiting for PlayStation to bring the heat like they did in the PS2.
That's why I sold my PlayStation 5 because they ain't got the heat like they used to.
I take two when I make games.

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Nah, ain't nobody talking about the PS5.
That's another error.
I'm talking about that PFO.
The PS5 definitely, it can use some work.
I'm not saying that I'm advocating for the current state of PS4 or the PlayStation, but
if I'm comparing them, I'm gonna keep comparing them.

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I think that PlayStation did their thing.
They did their thing with the PS4 error.
They had to.
After selling, they don't even want to put the number on here of how much the PlayStation
is.
If we don't wrap it up, I guess we can rank them.

(01:23:42):
I guess I'll personal rank in the whatever of all the generations from one to five, which
is the number one and which is the worst.
I guess I'll go first.
I personally will say PS2, then PS4, then PS1, and of course last, PS3.

(01:24:11):
Go ahead, go ahead, go ahead.
So as much heat as I was giving Deontay about the PS4, the PS2 is always gonna be my favorite.
My favorite, but even beyond that, I have some good experiences that are special and

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memorable.
We got this podcast, I got my best friends right here because of the PS4.
Will we be friends outside the PS4?
I mean, it's likely, but we got also wolves, you know what I'm saying?
So I'm gonna put PS4 as number one.
I know it sounds crazy, but I'm gonna put it as number one.
PS2 will be number two.
PS1 will be number three.

(01:24:55):
PS4 will be number five, and then PS3 will be the last one.
Wait, so, okay, well.
So I go four, four, two, one, five, three.
Oh yeah, I forgot the rank five.
Yeah.
But yeah, five will be in my fourth for me.

(01:25:17):
Yeah.
You know what?
Honestly, because I'm a fan of innovation and I collectively put the era of PS3 with
the Vita and the PSP, I'm gonna have to put that at three.
So I'm trying to figure out what the other two gonna be.
So I'm gonna go PS4.

(01:25:45):
I'm gonna go.
PS4.
Dang.
This is gonna be, I cannot give PS2 the fourth spot.
That's crazy.
I'm gonna do PS4, PS2, PS5, PS3, PS1.

(01:26:17):
I'm gonna go like that.
I just have to push it up a notch because the PSP was when they was really on their stuff
in regards to like innovation and trying different things, in my opinion, to the point where I
definitely had a PSP.

(01:26:39):
I definitely had a Vita.
And they still some of the smallest, most unique, but capable machines I've known to
date.
So they was on their stuff, but the PlayStation 3 kind of killed it because they had like

(01:27:02):
the worst big machine out.
Yeah.
I didn't even know the PSP came out before the PS3.
Yeah, it's like right at the tail end of the PS2, but it was like, and then the enemy got
the Vita.
So I still put it in that category because it was like that futuristic first wavy stuff.
And it was like, that was like their starter for the PS3's look because remember, I remember

(01:27:27):
when they first did the PS3.
Yeah, they copied it from the, well not copied, but it was based on the PSP.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
So I felt like that futuristic part, I thought.
And I want to be sure on that.
It came out in 04, I think.
It came out in 04 because I remember it was all alongside like the DS.

(01:27:50):
And the PS3 came out in 2006.
Yeah.
So, and that's when they kind of, I think they revamped the PS Vita in what, 2020?
Not 2020, 2010, 2011?
The Vita came out in 2011, I think.
I think the PS Vita released in 2011.

(01:28:15):
Yeah, it was 2011.
Okay.
Yep.
So that was where they did the same thing.
They kind of tried a little bit of introduction to the PS4, what it's going to look like,
sort of, but the Vita man, like I said, they was cooking.
It was cooking a little bit before that 13.
So I put those hand hails in that era and I have to give them credit because even though the Vita flopped,

(01:28:40):
the PSP was a big hit and they were competing on both categories.
They were competing with Nintendo with that DS and it was competing with Microsoft with the COM council.
And I feel like they had put out good show-ins on both.
So they have to get three, they can't be lower than that just because of that.

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The level nine was Garbo, the moco last for me.
Yeah, I mean.
And the controller was Garbo, so yeah, that moco last.
But they also did the PS Move stuff at that time too.
I like animation.
That was Garbo too?
The PlayStation Move?
PS Move!
Yes, move baby!

(01:29:26):
Who games they got for that?
The Foswee, man.
Man, that Wii came out in, well, the Wii came out in 07.
Doing way better than that PlayStation Move stuff, man.
I'm like, bro.
I'm like, man, y'all better stay in your lane and stop trying to copy Nintendo.
The only reason y'all exist is because y'all had issues with Nintendo.

(01:29:49):
Nintendo, we can't have that as a topic next time.
I got some stuff for that one too.
I'm just saying, at least they were trying to do something different.
And then stream copy is what they were doing.
But they diverted from Nintendo back in a long time ago.
Yeah, they did.
We kind of want to be like y'all again, bro.

(01:30:10):
We can't make up our mind yet because our consoles suck.
Did any of y'all own the PlayStation 1, the PS1 with the TV on attached?
No.
No.
I personally didn't have one, but my cousin had one.
Yeah.
I thought that was always an interesting concept.
They were trying to dibble and dabble into handhelds or some type of mobile gaming.

(01:30:36):
I think the GameCube had a screen too.
I think that's awesome.
Basically.
Yeah.
So we got to take a look back.
It's definitely a lot of history.
A lot of this tells us where this stuff is going anyway,

(01:30:57):
in regards to where they're trying to be and where they are.
But yeah, it's definitely PlayStation has been a part of my life for a very long time.
They have created some of my favorite memories of my life.
So they for sure.

(01:31:19):
They goaded.
I ain't gonna lie.
Xbox definitely have its moments.
I hate that the biggest moment for them is their terrible chats
and how crazy stuff used to get with the chats.
Because honestly, I feel like Halo should be probably the more cultural dominant thing.
But every time I hear about Xbox 360, most of the time people talking about how crazy the Call of Duty chats got.

(01:31:45):
So it's definitely fun to kind of go back and look at all this stuff.
But for PlayStation to not.
They ain't never been the underdog.
But you know, when they were on their backs, they made some magic.
So I'm looking forward to seeing what happens next year because right now, oh, they for sure on their backs.

(01:32:09):
I'm not saying that they're not doing great or OK.
I'm saying that that spending monster over to the right in the ball green.
Yeah, he ain't playing. He ain't for play.
So they got to figure out something to keep their dominance.
I'm looking forward to seeing whatever that is.
But yeah, anything else that I want to cover off on?

(01:32:33):
I really got much topics I thought we were going to talk about way more.
But honestly, I feel like they won't be necessary in this conversation.
So anything I want to cover off on?
No, we I mean, we covered a lot as far as news is.
I personally, I think it was a pretty slow week.
We write before the Game Awards.

(01:32:55):
So we'll have a lot more to talk about then.
Yeah. When is the game more as a seven or six?
I think I don't know the exact date, but they usually do it on the weekend.
So yeah, probably the seven.
Oh, it's the 12th. It's next.
Oh, OK. Yeah.
So we still got one more one more out before we do the where they do it.

(01:33:19):
Which is kind of OK. Well, nicely, we can talk about that Marvel rivals.
Oh, yeah. Oh, the Overwatch killer.
They just announced Wolverine. Oh, my God.
Yeah, it's going to be a fun time.
Fun time. Overwatch killed themselves.
I don't even know if they need to do anymore.
But all right.
Thank you all for listening, as always.

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Check out them themes while they last on the PlayStation 30th anniversary.
It's been real. And if you got to this part, you the real OG.
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Thank you for listening.
And we will talk to you all in the next one.
Peace.