DLS Drama & Sunday Success (ft. Stuart Wearden)

In the words of Gav Shields ‘We’re not the BBC, we’re Housecast Podcast!’

Well, that was a weekend of cricket!

We’re joined by scoring guru Stuart Wearden to unravel the DLS drama from Saturday. Is the Duckworth-Lewis-Stern method really fit for purpose in recreational cricket? We break it down.

If you are listening on Spotify, give us a comment below on your thoughts on the matter…

Then it’s onto Sunday’s brilliant win against Darwen, with a look at how the league table is shaping up — and the gap that’s opening at the top.

Tune in, debate with us, and as always — #UTH 💛💙

Episode Transcript

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Morden Morden send more house to.
Save. The house.
Hello everyone and welcome to Laura House Cricket Club's
podcast The House Cast. Well, this is going to be a bit
different this evening. Things have happened at weekend

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that we need to discuss and we need to properly get into the
nitty gritty of the results. Rained off game, getting beaten
semi and then beating a great side at Darwin.
So without further ado, I will. We've got quite a few on
tonight. I had, I had gas.
Hi, Jess, you're right. Yeah, fine.

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Thank you. Gavin, how are you?
Yeah, fine. Thank you, Jess.
Good, don't you? OK.
Yeah, very good. John Martin.
Perfect. Lovely.
That's good, that's good. We've got a guest on tonight
who's I think I can probably describe him as as an expert
witness that we could maybe bring into the the fold in the

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as the, as the podcast unravels itself.
So we can get this lad in soonerrather than later.
So I'm going to go straight intothe what I want to talk about.
It might be a bit selfish, but Ithink we need to get it out
there. The game on Saturday, a really
good, interesting game to watch as a spectator.
I think we played exceptionally well, the first team, our first

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team, and nothing seemed to go for us.
I think that's just a quick fairassessment.
What I want to do, certainly forthe 1st 5 minutes of this
podcast is try and dissect around the Duckworth Lewis
scores and and what really happened.
For those who weren't there or haven't heard, which I can't

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believe is anyone that's listening to this.
We battered first after winning the tossed an exceptional end to
the innings with Toxic and Frankie getting 90, a
partnership in 99, both of them not out, getting our score up to
189 for six off 34 overs. I can feel the tension now the

(02:28):
interval is it comes into play. It's worth saying there's at
least a couple of a couple of rain breaks.
We are massively on top. The momentum's with us.
So just remember 189 for six andthen on the scoreboard, Burnley
need to chase 173. There's probably 200 people

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watching, maybe, maybe a few more, and the gasps and
disbelieving faces around the ground was a joy to behold.
Now for me, you know, we've had plenty of chats about it, you
know, online and on WhatsApp with Gary and Blazin and other
people. I get it now as to what
happened, but I'd just like to throw it out there.

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Not for you, Joe Martin, becauseyou're a player who wants to
leave you a little bit independent.
Just want to throw it out there of certainly, you know, Gav, you
were watching and so were you, dude.
So Gav, what, what is your, you know, paragraph around what
happened during that interval? Well, it just felt unjust
really. You know, like you say, Frankie

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and toxic, you know, they've rallied really well and but you
know the keyword, their initiative, we walked off, you
know, the players walked off there and we saw, you know,
we've gone from trying to get a decent score to going past a
good score to getting what we thought were an excellent score.
Douglas goes down and I've neverseen I don't I don't think I've
seen that before. And it just felt terribly

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unjust. You know, you felt that you
know, we were getting weren't getting the rewards that we
should have done for, you know, for for for the mid innings
comeback really, you know, and and if and if Frankie and Toxie
aren't a batter out of the skinsBloody Ality have been over if
we are 6. But I think that's the point,
Gav, that because we were 40, I don't know, 40 odd for four, I

(04:17):
think 47 for four. And that's after the second rain
break. What I'm thinking Lewis and
Duckworth did and when they put the stats together is that we
were highly likely to be 60 for for 8 after 20 or 30 hours.
I don't get it. But there was a lot of anger in
the club. Do Joe, did you?
Did you find it when you were watching it live?

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I agree with Gav. I was.
I was expecting the score to go because we'd suffered
interruptions in our ends because that is what normally
happens. That's all I've ever seen any
Duckworth Lewis adjustment make in previous games is the score.
If you lose overs in the first days, your score gets adjusted
upwards, not downwards. I struggle to understand it.

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Jez obviously since explained itto me.
I still I get the rationale, butbut what I what I can't
understand is it makes an assumption based on where we
were at 40 for four, we're goingto lose more wickets.
Yeah, at 34 overs, we're not being bowled out.

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And we went, we went a period of16 overs without losing a
wicket. So why can't it factor?
If it's factoring in where we were after 10 overs, why is it
not factored in where we were after 34 overs?
And. You know.
And I know it obviously doesn't and it's not ever going to make
allowances for the strength of your batting line up that

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obviously that's nonsensical. But you know, we're always going
to fall come a cropper of that because we've got an incredibly
strong and long batting line up.Whereas I think what you were
saying, Jess, the assumptions that are made over, you know,
the Bank of data that it's got, you know, all the teams are not
going to have a century in batting at #11 are they?
Or an ex professional batting at#6 or a lad who's got 500 league

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runs batting at #9 or 10. So we're, we're always going to
get, we're always going to get robbed, of course.
But it still feels incredibly harsh.
And it feels like some of the assumptions that were made were
solely after that first period where we were 40 for four, but
nothing was taken into account for the for the miraculous
recovery that we made. Yeah, yeah, I love it.

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I love it. Garrett, I know you were far
afield, but I've played with youa long time.
You like studying stuff like this.
Have you had a look at it or managed to get you understand it
at all? Don't care what people have said
around the the the reset target odd at a first glance and I
think to add to what's been said, it is it seems to be

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around the score, doesn't it? It doesn't because the bowling
the bowl as well as the bowlers can they get a reduced amount of
always they can bowl. There's no, there doesn't seem
to be any adjustment one way or the other to to them, if you
know what I mean. In the same survey, you know,
are we saying that because they could, somebody couldn't bowl 10

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overs, therefore they would have, you know, we wouldn't, we
would have scored less or, or therefore our target is, is
reduced accordingly. And I know that's not part of
the the logic that's built into it, but it is, it is all around
the batting innings at the time.And whatever projections,
whatever assumptions calculations are built in to to

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adjust that for a second inningsand and you and and this the
assumption can only be that there's not gonna be any more
rain breaks that the conditions are then only getting better or
whatever or best staying the same.
So there's so many variables youwill screw ourselves into the
grain. But yeah, not one not seen it

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not seen it before like that at all.
You sometimes get it where if ifthere's a break right at the
very end of the innings and you think, oh, maybe that should
have been adjusted a bit furtherup, you only went up a little
bit. You know, they've gone into the
last three overs with five overswith three wickets down and and
you know, lost like two or threeof those overs and you puzzle

(08:25):
why they've only added a couple of runs on or something.
Like you see that sometimes, butnever not go down through
through through the like say 716, what was it nearly 20 overs
uninterrupted after that so. Yeah, yeah.
Because that was, I mean, interesting, Gary.
You know, you've met a couple ofpoints that I've not even

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thought about how many overs thebowlers could or couldn't bowl.
You know, someone could have bowled, you know, probably all
over what what we could have bowled in the end, but without
putting too much pressure. And I'm sorry, Joe Martin, I'm
not coming to you. I hope, I hope that's OK.
We can chat to you afterwards about it.
But we've got a guru on, we've got an expert who is probably,

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you know, the best, if not one of the best scorers in the, in
the league. He does run courses around play
cricket, which for those who want to wear is the system that
is used on the computerised system, which works great.
That's where we get all the the the scores in extremely quickly
and hopefully is going to help us to understand this quandary.

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Stuart Weird And how you doing, Stuart?
Anything, guys? You're not bad yourselves after
a controversial weekend, shall we say.
I know Cracky, I felt for you. And you know, people maybe on
this call or elsewhere I might feel it.
I might have already saying I felt for the umpires, but Stuart
tell us not so much going into the detail of how it worked just

(09:58):
around the game on Saturday 1st and is it something you could
foresee or was it as big a shockto you as it was to us?
Just talk us through the game, you know, as it progressed.
Well, we had one rain break, didn't we?
But we didn't lose any overs because they literally just
walked off the field and come back.
So we're losing no overs. There's no suspension put in, so

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you can't lose overs. So there's a 2 minute break, I
believe. And then the second one, they
went off like a couple of balls later, didn't they?
I think Selfie got out at that point and they went off for a
length of time. That 2 minute break was added on
to the time that they were off anyway.
So then we got the calculation of the overs that were missing
and then obviously they come back on and then went off again,

(10:41):
which was what, about 50 minutesoff the top of my head.
And so that also went in as wellas the number of overs that they
lost. Yeah, To be honest, I didn't
think anything of the score adjusting for Burnley in terms
of at the the interval maybe, you know, an odd run here and an
odd run there might have, might have changed, you know, didn't

(11:03):
really think too much about it to be honest.
And then as I'm walking back on the radio, I think it was Ian
Lawrence, the umpire went, Joe, we've got 173.
What have you got? So I'll go and have a look in a
minute when I get back to the score box.
Fair enough. When I press next innings, it
come up with the DLS has changed, burning this target to
173. And the moment it popped, I did

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that and it popped up on the on the big screen, on the
scoreboards. That's when the flood of
everybody started inquiring whatthe heck's going on here?
And that I guess that's when youhave to get your tin hat on and
say and try and explain or justify it.
Can you briefly, Stuart, just explain what you put into this

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system? It's obviously a computerised
system on an app or on your laptop and you put in the
minutes that have been lost. Is that right?
And no, well, you, the umpires will tell you how many overs
you've lost. You click on overs remaining.
So I think for one of them it was we'd lost 9 overs.
So then you reduce that to a 4.1over game as a rate as an

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interval break. And then when you get the next
one, then you take another, let's say it was another six
overs off. I know it was more, wasn't it?
Which then became a 34 over game.
And then it tells you how many overs and balls you've got left
after that. Literally, I mean, let's be
honest, Duckworth Lewis confusesall I've no, I don't understand
how they work it all out. I think Duckworth Lewis and
Stern are probably about the only three people in the cricket

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fraternity and outside of that that actually understand what
they've done. And yeah.
And when you get to the end of the game, you click on next
innings. At the end of the innings, you
click on next innings and it changes the screen to score the
next the second innings and it tells you what the target is.
So that's about it. The open players have an app
that they use and they put the scoring that the Longhouse had

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got. They also had in the rain breaks
at what over points it was and what the score was at that
point. And that's how they got to 173.
And it's a case of when umpires and the scorer agree that we've
all got the same and that's whatyou go with.
So, yeah. And then they had a had a flood
of people run into the score box, Frankie and Ben and and a

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few and by the sounds of it after the game at the interval
when it had come up, they were all sat outside on the phones
trying to work it all out as well.
So so the players weren't happy at the interval when they've
seen it in front of the umpires,so.
Yeah, I. Mean I'll be honest, I was
shocked with the the 16.16 run difference.
I'm probably looking at it mighthave expected maybe I'm going

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for maybe 180, maybe 183 maybe so you know, but not 16.
It was a big, big jump that. Just OK then Stuart and it's
interesting. I don't want this, this is
sounding old room and gloom and and we're not giving any credit
to the quality of cricket that was played and also
congratulating Burnley for goingout there and getting the rooms.

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You know, it was a target. They got them in the 34 overs
and who knows, if the target hadhave been 190, they might have
got them, they might have adapted slightly.
So congratulations to them for doing it, but I don't think we
should move away from this topic.
Have you known it before? You said then I expected it to
be about 180 around that margin.I've got to be honest, I didn't.

(14:23):
I've never known it where it's been less than the first inning
score. Have you known that before?
Have you not necessarily law house with other games?
Yeah, when you when you look across the the LANX league
recently, LANX league play cricket, you might actually
wanted to have a lower target than the other side have got.
And so yeah, I've noticed it on there a few times.
Interestingly though the other semi final was also the same in

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that Greenmount 145 all out of 44 overs and those bottom only
needed 142 to knock off from 46 overs and they finished on 144.
So the the same thing happened in the other semi final as well.
I didn't even notice that. I didn't notice that, and I
wonder if there was as much malarkey going on there as there

(15:06):
was at the West End. Well, maybe not because it was
only a matter of a couple of runs and not a great big chunk
of 16, was it? But yeah, you know, But you
know, like you said, yeah, congratulations to Burnley, you
know, the three there. I'm sure as, as we'd all say, if
the boot was on the other foot, we won't be having this
conversation and we'd all be celebrating and it'd be Burnley,
they'll be having this conversation so.

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Yeah, absolutely. And I do think that, you know, I
want to keep going with this point and labour it because
there was so much in the club about it after the game, so many
different thoughts and opinions and people gobbing off about
what they thought were right andwhat wasn't right.
And this is not right. And even the Burley players
didn't agree with it. It didn't matter.

(15:48):
It's a it's a formula that is there that the league have
agreed to adopt. Whether it's right for league
cricket or not, I'm not sure. I'm not really sure it's.
Understandable that the only chance that kind of reaction in
that in in that set of circumstances, he's completely
understandable. Yeah, of course it is.
And I have no issues with that. They've, you know, but I want to

(16:09):
come on to, you know, the momentum again.
And I keep going on about momentum and every games in
every podcast we're doing. It bores me to death as well.
But I do want to come on to thatand just to to see how how you
know, how we all feel. Is that how that changed?
Joe Martin, you've listened to everything that's gone on here.

(16:29):
I know you're a measured sort ofman.
I know you'll have considered itsince since Saturday and after a
great win on Sunday. What's your input to the
conversations we've had so far and what Stuart's been saying?
Welcome, Stuart. Firstly, excellent.
Yes, I'd agree with Jez. I think you're the best scorer
in the lead by far, especially with some recent difficulties

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with the scoreboard, so doing a fantastic job.
I'd like to think of myself as apretty fair person.
I'm obviously I'd like to win pretty competitive, but if you
if we lose a game and lose fairly then then that's all
right. There was just something about
the game on Saturday where you think that that's not quite how

(17:14):
cricket should be and for a few different reasons and for some
of the reasons I can't quite probably not allowed to get
into. But that's but yeah, it just
doesn't seem, just doesn't really seem very fair that
you've kind of scored some runs for them to say well done, but
you shouldn't have scored that many.
So therefore we're going to take, we're going to take them

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off. And so it's very, very
disappointing and still quite, still quite raw.
Actually. I kind of like mildly
unbelievable the kind of circumstances that played out on
on Saturday and and as people said, still doesn't really make
still doesn't really make make sense.
But they're the they're the rules that we play with.

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And I would probably argue that there is a obviously is that
Tucker Lewis Stern is something that's adopted by probably all
the major cricket league, you know, amateur cricket leagues
across the country. But I wonder if there is
actually a an amateur equivalentthat might be worth developing
actually. And this will sound very bitter,

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right, Because it sounds like we're playing the victim
because, you know, we've come out on the on the wrong end of a
of a result. But there's always capacity to
make things better and therefore, you know, not take
something like this to change it.
And, you know, Stuart said if we'd have won, we'd have
probably, we'd probably be talking about something else or

(18:41):
about the recording later in theweek, Jess.
But you know, so I think that's that's my kind of assessment of
it is that didn't seem a fair, didn't seem a fair gift, to be
honest with you, but. OK, and that is I think you're
speaking there for a lot of the players and and the where the
players were were feeling. And I'll add to that as well as

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sure, if you don't mind, I'm going to come back to you in a
minute around some other formulas that that I'm aware
that you've looked at and workedout.
But without getting too, too boring without let me just throw
this into your jaw. A lot of things went against us
in in mother cricket land. You know, Ben's run out for
people who who didn't actually see Ben's.

(19:24):
I'm not sure. Well, I don't think I've ever
seen it before. So a bowler bowls the ball.
Burnley have got too many fielders outside the 25 metre
circle so it is called a noble. The umpires signal that it is a
free hit. Johnny Whitehead smacks it back

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as hard as he can and Declan, no, sorry, Fergus Bailey gets a
hand or something on it and runsBen out backing up.
That's quite rare. That's rare.
On top of that, we've got the, Ithink I can comment on it, Joe,
really difficult conditions for the umpires, whether the reins

(20:07):
on and it's off the 8 field is looking dodgier and dodgier and
they make the decision to come on the field and our pros out
with a catch that is just is like.
Looking apples out of a tree. Very good catch.
It was a very good catch it. Was it was, yeah, we're a great
catch just one handed and then they go off for it.

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You know, that, again, is circumstances, which you
probably want every decade. Ben's run out probably as much,
if not a bit further. And they all happen in one game,
which makes it for me, you know,absolutely remarkable.
A lot of people were using the word look, and a lot of people
were saying, you know, we've been absolutely robbed when
we've been so unlucky. But I would just like to remind
some of those people there's a really good chance we won the

(20:51):
2004 Wellesley Cup on the back of something similar when Ben
ran out. Yeah.
Of course. Barry Knowles for 80 yard and
overlook set. So that happens in cricket and I
know you lads can can cope with that.
Stuart let you have done a few calculations around if this had
happened, if that had happened, which I know is hypothetical,

(21:12):
but it might be worth just mentioning it for the people who
are listening to to maybe understand a bit more now.
I've just did one really just tomess up, play around with it a
little bit though. I mean, when the game had
finished, the one thing that I thought had really done it is
losing 4 wickets in 10 overs. Because theoretically, you know,
that thing could have, if Burnley, Burnley weren't

(21:33):
disturbed from the ball in they're on a roll.
It could have been 1820 overs, couldn't it quite, you know,
average loss of averages there. Similarly, if we were batting
and we're under for nothing after 10 overs, we could have
been 200 for nothing after 20 overs.
So you know, I can swing both ways.
But so basically I think it was being 4 wickets down.
So I got the so I played around with the the app, I've got the

(21:56):
app up and put in the baggage where we were.
So the first rain break was 10.4overs done and we were 47 runs.
I then changed it to 1 wicket loss.
Then we have 30.2 overs remaining and then put the
second suspension in which was 11.5 overs and we were fifty
runs, wickets lost two and always remaining after

(22:17):
suspension. So it was 22.1 to go, obviously
put 189 in off the 34 overs thatwe had and that would have given
the batting team Burnley of 34 overs 196.
It's really just proves that it was the loss of those 4 Whitman
10 overs that did US. Yeah.
So let me just recap that. If we'd have only been one down

(22:37):
when we were four down. Yeah.
And then two down at the second interval would have needed 196.
Yeah, yeah. Just as a play around that we're
doing. Yesterday.
No, that's brilliant. That is, that is quite
remarkable. So 23 runs were knocked off
their score because we were 3 wickets.

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You put in three wickets less and then and then two wickets
less, which I think goes, I've got it in my head if I how it's
worked out, whether it's right or wrong, I've got it in my head
that, you know, the calculationsare worked out.
As Duke said early on, your number six batteries not going
to be as good as your number 3. And that is, you know what I
think they're trying to, they'retrying to say.

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Duke, what's your thoughts on those little calculations there?
I'm not changing my mind. I understand the calculation and
I understand the way that it's worked out.
But I think in our specific set of circumstances, it's unfair.
I'm obviously, you know, I'm notsaying that the whole thing is
unfair, but but in our specific circumstances with our, with our

(23:41):
batting line up in this particular game, I can't, I
can't see how losing 16 runs because of a hypothetical theory
that we would have lost more wickets in that period when we
were only 7 down at the close. It still just doesn't feel right
to me. But I understand the calculus.
I understand the logic behind it.

(24:01):
Gav, what about you? Similar to John, I'm not I
don't, I'm not changing my mind really again, you know, it's you
know, Stuart's been great there explanations, you know, we
talked about it after the game and things like that.
But you know, we've been paying a lot scoring runs.
It just don't. It just doesn't seem.
Right. No, no, no, no.
We were being penalised for losing wickets.

(24:22):
For losing wickets, yeah, I know.
But like you say with the battleline that we have, at the end of
the day, you know, Francois and Toxie, you know, they might not
be the like Joe saying an average #8 or a #7 or a number
six. And I just feel we're being
penalised for being a good side.And I understand it's the rules.
I don't understand. It was the rules for every team

(24:44):
before we started. I just don't think it reflects
what all our eyes saw and that'snot to take anything away from
Burnley in a Derby in the semi final.
Fair play to them, you know. However, it just.
It just feels wrong. I think we are in danger of
getting sounding very sour, aren't we?
Probably. We are, yeah, but that's we're.

(25:06):
Allowed to. Beat.
Yeah. Yeah, we are.
We are frustrated, Joe, you knowwhat I mean?
Yeah, it's not the BBC is it? You know what I mean?
It's Laura's podcast and we've just got beat in semi final with
Berlin. We're allowed to be miffed.
But we don't. But we don't want to just just
blame it all on Duckworth. No, absolutely not the.
BBC I love it. Gav I love it.
Who else can we blame it on? What's that?

(25:28):
Who? Else can we blame it on then
let's we can take some votes if you want.
Just a couple of observations onwhat's been said.
You're right Joe, everybody's playing using now if you've been
the other way around in the score, it wouldn't have been
calculated any different just because it would burn if they
got 100 and they had about the same innings.
And I'm sure and I'm convinced if that score had gone up at the

(25:50):
interval as being say 194 to Chase, nobody had battered
eyelid because I think everybodyhad fell.
Well, that's that would have been right.
Rather that's what they were expecting.
The thing that the thing that gets me where Joe, you were
talking about a professional version, amateur version is it
doesn't matter what version it is.
If it's not understandable or there's no mechanical,

(26:10):
mechanical way of replicating that calculation outside of a
computer, then it's always goingto be open to criticism and
people not understanding it. And, and I'm not saying, you
know, anybody's brighter than anybody else, because if it's,
if it's that type of thing, and that's why I like football in
VAR, why they've made everything, you know, trying to

(26:31):
make everything as transparent as possible with the images,
with the common tray, with the refs explanation and things
like, because that's the danger.If it's just a decision taken
out of sight and and get on withit, then it we end up having a
podcast like this. Transparency is the one in it,
that's that you just mentioned there.
And there's no transparency withhow this is calculated.

(26:53):
You're right. You can only do it if you've got
access to the software, whether that's an app on your phone or
on, on Stuart's laptop. And, and when you split the
numbers in and it gives you, it gives you a number out.
It doesn't. You've got no idea how it's been
arrived. Yeah, there should be.
Some narrative that earlier. Yeah, there should be some
narrative around it. Yeah, yeah, no, I think we'll
all agree with that. You know, it is so difficult the

(27:13):
amount of spectators and playersand second team players that
were just continually couldn't, you know, you know, I ended up
comfortable with it because of, you know, that's the rules.
That's what we play with. But clearly some people still
are still struggling to get their drainage.
I mean, it's fair to say, and again, fair to Vern, is that
their batters, their opening batters were speaking to Ben and

(27:33):
they couldn't get their drainage.
They were looking, thinking, youknow, shit, what's happening
here? How on earth has that worked
out? And then there's the issue of
some people thinking that StuartWeirdens messed it up.
The two umpires have messed up the calculation and then the
game goes ahead and Burnley win by, you know, a real narrow
margin, even narrower than it was.

(27:54):
But then they work out the calculations were wrong, that
this the result would still stand that Burnley won.
So that was causing mayhem in middle of the second innings as
well. So it was.
Dooche, can you remember? Can you remember the game?
The game at church in 20, 2011. I can.
Yeah, I can. Remember we were, we were

(28:15):
playing, I think this was beforeDLSI think this was the old
Lancashire League adjustment 75.Percent of the difference, yeah.
Yeah, yeah. And we were, we were, we were
playing. We've got obviously a certain
amount of runs. Church were and church were back
and then it rained and then it stopped raining before the cut

(28:37):
off and they were calculating what the score should be, but
they couldn't. But they couldn't work it out.
They couldn't work it out. I think the game was involved on
it, yeah. What was involved?
So they. Came into the church for us.
We can't work it out. So what we'll do is we'll go
out, we'll play the last two overs and then we'll try and
work it out at the end to see who won.
Oh. No.

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What did you say there, Duke? It wasn't this Stuart that were
there. Oh no, he wasn't.
He wasn't super Stuart weird. And it was Stuart.
It was, he's a predecessor, Stu Gaynor.
And what happened after that wasobviously that suggestion was
was immediately sort of laughed out the building.
By the time they'd agreed what what the what the total was.
We ran out of time and we won the game.

(29:19):
We never ended up going back on.The umpire retired shortly after
that, didn't he? What's his name?
He's a nice, he's a nice chap. Yeah, yeah.
And in the. Burnley game, let's be honest,
the one with an over to spare and you know, it took Tom Lawson
to come in and smack it around alittle bit because it looked
like they were well adrift. I'd, I'd dipped off for 20

(29:41):
minutes or so, came back on and I think there's like maybe 5
always to go. I thought, oh, we got this bag
up OK. He looked like he would piss,
pissing it, pissing around, you know, for some red ink or
something. And and then Tom Lawson
obviously got all got fed up andand and saw it through.
So fair play to win. Yeah, I mean, that's the other

(30:01):
thing I would say, Jess, actually is that Chase 173 in 34
overs is also a good effort. You know, so they battered well
and, and, and who knows, right, Even if, even if the score
stayed the same and and it was 189 and then there's obviously
an over left. You know, we'd finished on 33

(30:23):
overs, one over left. They could, they might have,
they might have chased those, they might have chased them down
that obviously we back ourselvesto to defend that in the last
over, but they could have chasedit down.
So you know, Burnley battered, Burnley battered really well to
give them. I think cash, ours was the was
the crucial. Was the crucial, yeah, in the

(30:43):
whole game. And you know, he chanced his arm
and he and he did and he did again.
I know, just don't want me to say got lucky, but he did get
lucky, you know, eat some balls in the air and he some balls
just just fell short of fielders.
But he's was the crucial inningsfor me because he got them.
He got them ahead of the rear. And that that means that Okie
can go about his business in hisusual manner and he doesn't have

(31:06):
to try and score quicker than than he's capable of doing so.
So I, I thought Kaz Shaw's innings was the one that that
took it away from us a little bit.
Not saying that I didn't fancy us after that.
I did ask. I thought we were going to win
probably right up until there was maybe 6-7 overs to go.
I was stood with Jazz and Matt and we looked at the scoreboard
and went, we're probably going to get beat unless we take some

(31:29):
wickets quickly. But up until that point I
fancied us. But I, I looking back, I think I
think Kaz has knock was the, wasthe sort of the game changer.
You have that opening partnership onto the 17 runs
that the the boost that they gotwith DLS and their opening
partnership and their first 10 overs was, was, was very good.

(31:50):
I agree 100% and I do like that when you know, cracky, you know,
you deserve a little bit of lookwhen if you go out and play like
that, I do think it it does change, change the game.
But again, please let me talk about momentum.
It's so important to cricket andI didn't realise it when I
played as much as I do now with the, you know, the way toxic and

(32:13):
and Frankie battered, you know, Burnley.
We're down on the on the on the haunches.
We were getting rooms everywhere.
The last over was absolutely outstanding.
We came off cockahoot, they cameoff really dragging the heels
and with I convinced without theyou know, forget the DLS.
If that's nowhere involved with a with a walk to winning by 50

(32:36):
or 60. But all of a sudden it just
flips because of the circumstances.
Be honest, Joe March and in the dressing room and and I know and
I know how I would feel and it won't be any different.
But how difficult was it then toget yourself up for going out
for I? Don't.
I honestly don't think it was, Idon't think it was difficult.
It wasn't difficult to get to get up for the game.

(32:58):
I think you've you've you certainly feel hard done to but
you know, it's a Worsley Cup semi final for for your club and
and that and that drives you andthat drives you on to to you
know, to try and win, to try andwin the game.
However, however you try and winit.
Were we happy? No, no, not really.

(33:20):
But it didn't. I don't think it altered how we
went about it or or anything like that.
There was no stranger. But how, how do we sort of
generally bowl and feel, feel compared with, you know, our
recent standards? Yeah, I, I honestly, it's, I
honestly don't think we got AI don't think we got a lot wrong.

(33:40):
We didn't there was no you come off some games, don't you Gary?
You know, you, you played, you played one thing, you come off
some games and you think we werenowhere near that.
We didn't deserve to win. We didn't feel well.
We didn't, you know, miss fielding balls were dropping
catch and sorts, whereas there were, you know, there was
probably a couple of chances that went up, but there were
tough, really tough chances. And, and people did really well

(34:03):
to get there and, and had a really good effort.
But people were still stopping, you know, big diving stops on
the boundary edge. So they took the other catches
when when they came, you know, when the chance, when chances
came. So, yeah, I don't think, I don't
know what I don't know what everybody else was, what

(34:24):
everybody else thinks. But I don't think our standards
are any different to to before. I think we applied ourselves
really well. Yeah.
I agree. I agree, Joe, I thought I don't
think you could have done a lot more than than what you did.
You know, you played it tough and hard and the the conditions
are poor as well. You know, we've all played in
that where the egg feels damp, the balls obviously gets wet, it

(34:47):
swells up or exact shape or whatever and that and the wind
and everything else that's there.
So I think let's leave the DLS to one side.
We really congratulate Burnley for the for the win.
Good on them. You know, they've you know, I do
honestly believe that we got therough end of the state, but that
will come back that you know, that is swings and roundabouts
in all forms of cricket. And big question from me, Joe

(35:12):
was the and I know you never getinvolved in any major decisions
or anything. The thoughts are in batting
first my. Answer to it is we scored 100
and 1934 hours. Yeah, good answer.
Yeah. Yeah, good answer.
And we will never know if it changed anything different.
You know, I do just sometimes look and wonder if, you know, is

(35:32):
it, you know, where that we set and there is no flexibility at
all. If that is the case, great.
And you stick to your plans and you do everything that's there.
And probably been a little bit, a bit of a cheeky Rascal in
asking it, but I think, you know, people do ask those sorts
of questions and it's good to, you know, your answer is right.
Yeah. Yeah, I mean, you know, I, I

(35:53):
walked around a lot and on Saturday we were pushing the
covers on quite a quite a few times whilst it rained and
whatever. And probably the first two
intervals quite a few people came up to ask me and said
what's the thinking me, I'm batting first.
And I was like, well, what we back ourselves to do We think we
can back people out on the end. And then when I was walking up

(36:14):
for tea, people said, well, we weren't.
Well, we didn't think that was going to happen.
Yeah, absolutely. And the proof in the pudding
with it, you know, it's a very narrow defeat with a lot of
things going against us. But it, you know, you're right.
You know, if that's the strategyand that's the plan, then you
know you've got to stick to it. So great effort.
Is there anything else from anyone else around the Cup game

(36:37):
before we just go into the othertwo game that the first team
played and also the 2nd 11 game?I've just got a very, very
quick, very quick thing you mentioned.
You mentioned them briefly, but I just wanted to big them up a
little bit. Toxie and Francois, I thought
for the last 45 minutes of our innings were absolutely superb.
And I know I've give Francois Lord stick on this podcast and

(36:59):
and you know, he deserves it, but I've never seen him.
I've never seen him as pumped when he was coming off the end
of the innings. Topsy as well.
I mean, that was a proper gem ofthe innings that Topsy played.
And you know, it's a shame that he didn't really, he didn't
really count for anything because obviously we got beat.
But I thought that that last so 45 minutes to an hour of our

(37:22):
innings was as good, as good in a big game, as good as I've seen
for a while, I thought was superb.
Area yeah and they didn't talk to look very settled into he
didn't look like he was going tobe be giving anything away
Frankie obviously he's a top quality player and compares his
innings but they were they were outstanding together so so caps

(37:44):
off caps off to them. The Friday night T20 for those
who want to wear was rained off That was rammy at home and
that's been replayed this Friday.
So getting yourselves down thereand and support the land the
weathers looks good and to get us through to the finals of that
after the disappointment of Saturday and I'll just jump into

(38:05):
the the seconds bit of a bit of a real shame play Greenmount at
home and I don't think we got asmany runs as we really should
have done 139 all I watched bitsof it on on the live stream and
Greenmount knocked him off so that's the first defeat in 12
games for the 2nd 11. Did anyone go down gavel you

(38:27):
down there at all? No, I didn't get, I didn't get
down on on Sunday unfortunately.So I was just sort of following
it on player cricket. Obviously Kings has got 40 odd
aunties top scored 46, get Metcalf 19 and Will 18 and it's
like a decent day for Kings. To be fair.
He's got 4 for 29 off 10 as wellAuntie, so you know, he's played

(38:51):
well and all. He chipped in with two for 37
off 12. So that's it.
That's a decent item for ally aswell into you know, but you
can't win them every week and there's still a million points
in in front. Aren't they at top of?
League, So yeah, yeah. And they got them 8 down and and
it would appear to be a close, if not controversial game, but

(39:11):
you know, a decent enough performance from them and let's
hope they bounce back from that.Joe Martin again, a quality
performance yesterday it was weren't it?
Sunday away at Darwin, a difficult place to go and play.
A good side who know their conditions probably as well if
not better than anyone else in the league and adapt to those

(39:33):
conditions. Quite windy, quite a blustery
day, Joe, You know, how did, howdid that go?
You know, they won the tops and put us in, started off all
right. Was it as difficult as it looked
with the with the conditions, with the wind and the threat of
rain? Yeah, I mean, it always looks.

(39:53):
It was one of those days where it always looked like it was
going to rain but never did. It just seemed to keep passing,
sort of passing by. So you always have kind of one
eye on the weather to make sure.To see where you are at 20
overs, you know, and speed up ordo you need or do you need to,
you know, slow the game down. And so, yeah, I think in terms

(40:15):
of us batting first, we had a wehad a really good start.
Ben was batting while he was unfortunate run out.
Yeah. And then but Johnny, Johnny
Henry, Francois Batteredwell again and Southie, Southie
Batteredwell. So when you look at the
scorecard, it was a really good team effort to get to 213.

(40:38):
Charlie Gansley came in and battered well and there was no
kind of one, there's no one standout player.
I don't think that particularly took their game away, took the
game away from them. But I think as a collective
batting unit, I think I think wedid really well and good plans
in place. And again, I think you know,
you, you look at the way Johnny,you know, was batting again,
getting 45. That's his 5000 runs now in

(41:02):
Johnny, White said. You know, which is great
performance. And again, Henry held things
together a little bit. You know, he faced a lot of a
lot of balls there. But you need that in those
conditions to set set it up for,you know, Tom, run a ball,
Frankie, run a ball, Charlie Ganza, run a ball.
You know, a lot that you know, the last three or four batters

(41:23):
there getting to a run a ball. I did think they look set though
with the pro and and a couple oftheir amateurs and they seem to
be getting not behind the run rate but never too far behind
and then they'd get a boundary. Was that concerning?
So I think, I don't think they're ever above the rate for

(41:44):
the whole inning, but I should say they're always there or
thereabouts. And when we would just get
ahead, as you say, they would, they would hit a boundary or, or
something would happen, I think.But concern isn't the word
because I think that if you, if you take the game long enough, I
think that we always have a chance.
We've got a lot of bowling options.

(42:06):
So, you know, Francois getting the pro out, it was fantastic
catch by brilliant catch by Dan and towards and towards the
boundary. And it was quite a highball.
And it's quite a difficult ground to navigate Darwin
because it's on a massive hill. And so it was a great catch.
And then, and then it, I don't know, it was a, it was an, it
was an interesting game to watch.
I think Suits you were there when it kind of Ebdon, Ebdon

(42:29):
flawed going in both directions where there'd be small
partnerships by Darwin and then we'd take a couple of wickets
and so on before we probably gotthem 5 or 6 down and then put
the pressure on. Yeah, it was a weird one because
what you alluded to there about their pro going well, he he did,
he did play well, but it was like he he score his runs in
like clusters. He'd go a long time without,

(42:51):
without really looking like he was, it was easy to bat on.
And then he just smacked 2 over at wall, you know, so, so that
gave me the impression that the,the underlying view of the track
was it wasn't that easy to bat on, particularly when the lad at
the other end was, you know, absolutely chewing dot balls up
for fun. You know, he had a bit of a
fluid towards the end of his innings to, to make his final

(43:14):
score look respectable. But at one stage I think it's
something like 15 off 80 balls or something like that,
according to the the big scoreboard.
So it it didn't look like it waseasy to score on.
So that always gave me the impression that if we could, if
we could get the pro out and maybe one or two others, we
would, we would be fairly comfortable.

(43:34):
We did have a few more scares after that.
You know, the guy who came in at#4 did did crash a few and, and
sort of give the impression thathe was going to go on and hurt
us. But because we've got such a
good score that that always gives you a little bit of
wriggle room, you know, to to cope with our partnership or,
you know, our cameo and eventually our our class, the

(43:56):
class of our bowling attacks sort of told really.
And we once we once we got a couple of wickets, we really, we
really screwed, screwed him intothe ground.
I. Mean Toxie bowled extremely
well. Oh.
It was great again, yeah. Really, really brilliant and
obviously Francois making a comeback with the ball as
welded. Hawk as well, but shout out
Hawk. Yeah, I mean, he didn't get any
wickets, but cracky. Beat 7 / 15.

(44:20):
Yeah, he was. He was.
It's spot on, really, really good.
Yeah, I think we'll estimate, don't we?
And you look at toxic, you know,and that Joe Joe's playing this
year and and Frankie coming back.
It's it is it's that, you know, it's that hunger that they want
to play. And I think this game, whereas
myself and Gary have always beenyou starve them as the runs you
will get, you will get the results at the end of it.

(44:42):
I think this was more annoying. We were going to get the
wickets. The top four or five players are
good batters. But once you get once you get
them 345 down, then it's a big ass to score at 4 and over off
our off our bowling lineup, certainly in those conditions.
And again, you know, it's worth mentioning if you don't mind
you, I know I'm coming back to you a lot for this bit of an

(45:05):
injury for the pro. What can you give us an update
on that? Yeah, it seems he's he's done
something to his hamstring. He was, it was, it was chasing
him. He was chasing a ball into the
the covers of his bowling. Just felt something up.
I think if I, if I've not dropped the catch the couple of
balls before, he might have probably wanted that to change,
to be honest with you. But he, yeah, I'm not quite sure

(45:30):
what, not quite sure what he's done all kind of timelines or
anything like that. But yeah, he was on his
hamstring. So let's hope it's nothing too
drastic and and I'm sure he'll be he'll be getting the
treatment that he that he needs and getting back to us.
Gary, any thoughts on that? I mean, I know it's, you know,
it's we really didn't play against Alexa Darwin, but they

(45:51):
are a tough side to play play against.
Any observations? Yeah, they seem a bit like a
backup of your, don't they? I mean, they, they were, they
were pretty similar and probablynot a dissimilar type of ground
and high up and, you know, sloping etcetera.
And a lot of local lads who knewit inside out.
No, they had wood on us for quite a while, didn't they?

(46:12):
But I think we've turned that corner a bit in the last two or
three years and, and got some good results there.
I just want for Joe really. Joe Martin, have you caught Ben
yet? I've caught.
Ben. Yeah, after that run out well
it. Took off dinner.
Yeah, it took. Off the screen it will like.
It will like the end of a Benny Hill episode.

(46:35):
You just saw him get up and leg it down the hill and everybody
else were chasing him like and zigzagging around the screen.
They were hilarious. Well, there's a bit of context.
There's a bit of context to thatbecause obviously Ben was giving
out run out in the first inningsand he didn't think he was out.
And I think that I think that batter who who Ben ran out might

(46:56):
have might have given some gentle encouragement when he was
on his way off. So, so then when Ben's had the
direct hit run out, I think, youknow, I felt a bit of
vindication. Brilliant role as well because
he's on the ground. He was on his knees.
Very like in this field behind him and then spun while he sat
on his horse and. Yeah, nice one.

(47:17):
Yeah, what goes around comes around.
I guess we did put out on socialmedia for some questions to come
in. So that'll bring me on.
Joe, you had a bit of I think isthe right word of collision
would you use, Would that be about the right word?
What happened there? Yeah, no, it was ball got hit
into mid wicket and then picked up, threw it back in and then as

(47:39):
I was diving I like fell into the into the batter into Sam
Painter as I'm obviously I'm notstrong or big into yeah, I'm
kind of bounced off him and but he's fallen on me and his bats
landed on my hand. The ball's gone fast and I've
already got quite a bad right hand anyway.
I can't note, like, strengthen just getting better after it

(48:03):
hurted at the start of the startof the year, but now it's
hurting again. But I'll be.
But that's a really good point actually, because fair play to
Sam because he refused to run when they were telling him to
keep going. Yeah, he said I can't.
So that was very, very kind of commendable and kind of restored

(48:25):
my face. Yeah, exactly.
Good sportsmanship with this. There was, that's what we're
after. So there was.
We put out there asking for somequestions for tonight's podcast.
Unfortunately, the only one I can really read out is from from
Chippy. He said he was sat afar in in
Poland just ready to get a flight back here and he saw you

(48:45):
injured. So he he had to rush home to get
his Allen not mixed out just in case it needed to sit in and and
come and replace you. Thankfully you don't.
The only other question, could you?
Play again. Sorry to see Chip could play
again. It could be interesting that
could I? So.
Definitely get a vets game going.

(49:07):
He'd love it as well. He'd be the first one in it.
He'd go and buy all the best gear, he'd get all the best pads
and everything. He'd be all over it proper
taking it seriously. So then we had three or four
other points that came in following our request for
questions. Unfortunately, none of them were
questions and the only one that really of any relevance was from

(49:32):
a one age I Ted who said I've been robbed and I know that's
not a question. Do you get any?
Do you get any questions from Jackson?
Just that he wants to know what's the DLS, how the DLS
works. We've.
Already. Answered that aren't.
We yeah, we're going to arrange a full podcast.
He can chip away. I can't.

(49:54):
He just can't just not shut up. But I hope we've answered the
the questions. Now I know that we some people
still don't accept it and think that it's a weird a weird way of
working it. But as I've pointed out, I'm not
sure the Rami Greenmount game, we're too dissimilar looking at
those scores, maybe not as dramatic because of, you know,

(50:17):
the way that our innings ended. But, and again, I don't want to
say again. Yeah, but.
They got two extra overs. Yeah, but they were all they
were. All out well how should you
should get deducted? Yeah, but they didn't get
deducted, did they decide but insecond got more overs anyway.
Let's not have pregnant horses on you got?

(50:39):
Anything in Peacock job? No.
I thought I might have heard from this week, but he's not.
I've not had anything. I'll just refresh my inbox then.
But no, I've not had anything. It would be good if we could get
some young, some young analysts to work out a system and what,
you know, are you interested in that would be, I mean, maybe

(51:00):
Jack and Danny SIM could come upwith it.
That'd be an interesting title. Sorry that.
Means a mathematician. Yeah, yeah, they maybe could
come up with it. So I don't think we need to
labour anything. We've had a really good
discussion there. Stuart, I'm going to come to you
in a minute and then just go around the rest of the lads that

(51:21):
are on it just to for some comments.
And I don't and I'm not blowing smoke of access to, but the job
you do for the club takes so much pressure off.
A lot of, you know, the committee, the players, you
know, it's so difficult if you've not got someone who's as
competent as yourself. I do want you to come back on
again, if that's all right, justto talk through the systems and

(51:42):
and trying to encourage, you know, younger or other people
that to go into the scoring world.
So Stuart, thanks ever so much for coming on.
You obviously love doing it. You obviously love doing it.
Is it? Yeah.
It's kind of fun. Passion.
And is it something that you're part of that team?
It's kind of fun, isn't it? Yeah, You feel part of the first
team, you know, the lads are pretty good.
I'll send Ben some stats on thatevery week and probably when

(52:04):
it's the T 20s as well, so, so yeah.
But you know, today was a bit ofa last minute to due to the
royalties of of Saturday really.So, but yeah, we'll do A1 when
we've got a bit more time. Yeah, definitely apologies for
that. It was just an idea we had to
thought there's you know that many people wanting to know what
it got only I still still don't think people will be fully off

(52:24):
fair with it. But at least we've tried our
best. Stuart, really appreciate you
coming on at last minute. Thanks ever so much and and keep
that going for, you know, for Asfor for as long as you can.
It really does help out the squad and and the whole club.
So I'll go round from from Gary to to Gav, then to Dutch and
finally to Joe Martin. Gary, thanks for coming on.

(52:45):
I know it's the last minute one this, but I think it's really
important that we talk about theserious stuff as well as the
more important funny side of cricket.
Have you anything you want to add about the way the lads are
going? You know, we are 22 points, 26
points ahead at the moment. Yeah, the other results fell our

(53:06):
way, didn't they? At the weekend, My league,
league position point of view. And it's like we said, was it
what was the first game we lost?Was it little Bruce, you know,
and where we felt maybe we couldhave won that or something went
against this, You know, it's onegame.
Don't let it face easy. Keep doing what you're doing.
Trust in everything. Everybody looks good,
everybody's, you know, contributing and and like

(53:27):
somebody said the other day, youknow, match winners all round.
Just crack on, you know, see through and out to the end of
the season. Big push and let's keep enjoying
some wins on a Monday evening. Area, area it's tend to go and
they've got to got a good platform therefore, and they
play well as well. The squad's great.
I love that squad the way it is.I think there's a bit of

(53:48):
adaptability around it because we've shown, you know, from the,
the, the slight changes on Saturday.
Gav, we're enjoying it, aren't we in there.
It's good to walk. It's good to have some some
crack and some bands. Have you anything you want to
add? Basically just just the
processing, right? It's a really good atmosphere
going down there. You know, the first team and
second team are playing good cricket.

(54:10):
You know it's going to be another cracking weight Friday
night. Let's get down in the sunshine
and have a few pants and, you know, and support the lads.
Really. Yeah, That, that, that.
That's it for me, really. Yeah.
Just get down and support the lads and trust the process.
Good lad. Yeah, no, you're 100% right.
It's difficult at times and and it does get, you know, it's such

(54:31):
good entertainment. It's such good, you know,
memories that have been made even when it, you know, like it
was on Saturday. So brilliant.
Thanks Gav Duke, anything from you or anything around the the
team, the way they are behind the scenes, the selection or or
people's fitnesses or form, anything you want to impart on
us? No, not particularly Jess.

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Obviously we keep an eye on downafter after coming off injured
on Sunday, but everybody else seems seems clean bill of health
and like I said in previous weeks, it's amazing in it.
Two teams are at the top of the league and all of a sudden
everybody's available every week.
It's it's a coincidence that isn't it.
I know it says have a look at how many, you know, the same

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team and the same batting order and everything.
It's it's so, so different than a lot of the games that
certainly are played in. I'm sure Gary Gavin do to the
same. So we'll finish off with our
little star. I hope you're all right, Joe.
I know you were gutted. I've never, ever, ever seen you
like that as you were on Saturday afterwards.
Yeah. It were good to see it were good

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to see, but I've never seen an angry, angry a little go on,
sorry it. Wasn't good to see Jess because
I like to think of myself as as as quite reasonable.
And as I said at the start, I don't, I don't like, I don't
like, but I can accept it. But yeah, I just think some
things didn't quite go our way and.
Yeah, yeah. And I don't like it when things

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don't seem fair. That's that's my.
Yeah, you know, I understand that.
So it's fine. Yeah, and it, and I don't mean,
I don't mean to put you on the spot.
It was just really weird. You know, we always have a
little chat either during the game, walking around after the
game, and I've never seen a proper angry little wasp that
had been in a jar for about fourhours.
Yeah, you saw my, you saw my Sheridan.

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Yeah, dude, Yeah, I saw your Uncle Ian come out.
There. So just George, just before you
go Joe, tell us about that courtbehind appeal off Hockey I.
Can't. What do you mean you can't just
tell us? He did eat it.
Yeah, eat it. Did you tell him?
Did you give him any any words of advice?
No. No, no.

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OK, all right. Fair enough.
It's it's, it's, it's difficult.It's difficult to stomach but
you know, Selavy, that's the wayit goes.
Mother cricket and all that. We've had our fair share of of
dramas on Saturday I think, but they will work the self out I'm
sure. So if there's nothing else from
anyone, we will, you know, another big weekend coming up.

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So I'd like to think next week we'll probably will podcast
again for any of the old the oldBurnley faithful.
That said, we only pod when we win in, we'll let you go.
I know we've wins the all way through that we were unjust, but
but at least we've at least we've done it and we'll look
forward to doing, you know, another one next week and get

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towards that July draw. So if you want to get in the
lower I straw, don't forget, just send us a message.
We can get you in it quite easily, £5 a month, massive
prizes and good crack as we do it.
So thanks everyone for listeningand we'll catch you up on the
Yes, Joe. On the Law House draw, I've had
a couple of people that have said that they quite like it
when when we when you give us clues about who the winners are

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and we have to guess who, we have to guess who they are.
Yeah. OK, we can carry that on.
So you know it's new, you know new format.
Yeah, yeah. New segment.
Guess the winner. Yeah, we can carry that on no
problem. So we'll do that.
So thanks everyone for listeningand keep keep supporting the
club. Get down there and and I'm sure

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things you know, if look does turn then happily happy day too
because we've had some, we had some tough luck on Saturday.
So thanks for listening to everyone and we'll catch you
soon. Gordon, Gordon, send more house

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to save. The house.
Come on. The house.