March 3, 2025 • 48 mins
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Although it had me listed as Mr Joseph Martin.
What did you want to do? It needs to change.
It needs to change that, but I didn't want to.
I didn't want to bring it up there.
You. Should have brought that up.
Excuse me. Excuse me?
This is wrong. Can we pencil this in please?
Who Who changed it? Tony.
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Well, Tony, Tony, Tony usually does, I guess, but he wasn't
there. I think he was working.
So Steve Hunsley chaired it and Duncan was there as well.
Steve Hunsley had two roles lastnight.
It was quite, it didn't make me laugh a bit.
It was there as like assistant chairman or whatever it is.
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So he started it, but he was also treasurer or accountant or
something. So he had to do, he had to do a
statement as chairman and then said and now I will do 1
treasure. To the Treasury.
Any change? Any change seats to the next
seats along. It made me laugh a lot.
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It was funny. Yes.
I think I might have said this to you before.
I'll gladly do pretty much anything for our house.
You know I will. You know, I'm a big club man.
I'll do anything for the club but I will not be a league Rep.
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There isn't. There's no way that I would be a
league Rep, unfortunately. But.
But you do need them. But I couldn't.
But I don't think I could do it.But I thought morally, because
of why Stan couldn't be there, Ithought I will step into the
brief nobody. Because if nobody said anything,
I have no doubt that he would have gone.
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Yeah. And that.
And that wasn't fair. So.
Yeah. Jazz.
Yes, Joe. Really sorry Paddy can't make
it. And the reason for that, the
reason for that is where my sister lives.
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I don't know. She's got some kind of like new
house thing. The the handle of the door, a
front door has come off so she can't get into a house.
So Paddy's trying to sort it at the minute because he's a handy,
handy man. He isn't really.
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He's very price, very practical.Jess, he's very practical.
He's got a lot of tools. You want to see the number of
tools he's got, not excluding me.
Hey, guys. Evening, gentlemen.
Hey, Gary. You're well.
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Yeah, good. You've.
I'm glad you didn't dial in on time Gary, because you would
have lost 5 minutes of your lifeyou'd never got back with these
two idiots. The Georgia show harsh.
Very harsh. They both I don't know how old,
but going on mate to whinging and moaning about stuff rather
than rather than doing it Gary, like me and you the wind, you
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ate it and I never won't do this.
I won't do that. I didn't.
Do it. You weren't even there, Jess.
I'm you're supposed to be I. Wasn't giving me apologies.
I was there in two roles last night.
I was there as lower house Rep and EDI lead.
Love a lot after you you get oneof them titles.
Oh. Yeah, yeah.
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I got an e-mail from him this week actually asking me for five
bullet points of what I've done,what I've done well, that.
'D be a good thing on here, wouldn't it?
Yeah. Sometimes there's got some good
bits in this in this early section that Joe manages to get
in and it's quite funny, but I don't seem to be going that way
this time. I suppose Paddy saving his
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sister because she's locked out is quite interesting how she got
locked out. Joe I.
Think she? I don't know.
So I'm going to, I'm going to put some hypotheses together.
I think she would have come downstairs, locked the door and
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actually locked the door. The handle dropped off and it
can't, and it can't get back on.Yes, just in your, in your
professional capacity, you've interviewed a lot of criminals
who lie to your face on you. What?
What, What in terms of credibility, what are you giving
this story out of 10? Well, I don't know.
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I don't know how she's done it. It's below 2.
What do you mean I have made it up?
I will tell you that I've made it up because I don't know what
the answer is, Jess. So, as Alex told you, that or.
No, I don't know anything that. You've made it up.
I've guessed at what's happened.I know that.
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So I know 2 ends of this story. I don't know the middle.
I know that she can't get into ahouse because the handles
dropped off the door. I don't know how it happened or
or where to begin. I don't know, Jess.
I'm not locksmith. It's a dog hate me homework
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excuses. I'm not Yale.
I'm not from Yale or Timpson's. Am I supposed to know?
Or Harvard. Golden Golden send more house to
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save the house. Hello everyone and welcome to
Lower House Cricket Club podcast.
It's still winter I think, but we're getting closer towards
spring. It's a little bit lighter each
night. A lovely day today around here.
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I don't know about elsewhere butSprings just around the corner
again. We've got a fantastic team on to
bring this podcast to you. Hopefully we've got some good
stories. We've got a good guest that's
coming on a bit of breaking newsand and hopefully you'll all
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enjoy it. But first of all, I'll go
through the the other horse. We've got Joe Beneduch here.
All right, Duch. All right.
Cheers. Good luck.
Good luck, Gary, from all the way down South Gaz, you are.
All right. Cheers, Graham.
And we've got Joe Martin. Hey, Joe.
Hi, Jeremy. How are you?
What we're going to do on this episode, we've got some
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discussions to run through with with each other.
We've got the draw to do and we've got a guest coming on
who's taking up a new role at lower house.
We booked him probably 3 weeks ago.
Looking forward to chatting to him to see how the the role came
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about. It's, it's quite a significant
part he'll play and it's, it's amove forward which is is
fantastic. Not many other clubs have done
it yet. So, so great work on having
Paddy Martin on a little bit later, OK?
So we're supposed to be, we're supposed to record this on
Monday as well. We moved it to Thursday just to
accommodate. Paddy didn't, if you remember.
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That's right. Yeah.
We were old. Today isn't really that
convenient for me, so I moved from Monday.
So it's good that you know we can get him on and get it in
because we could have had other guests on if Paddy couldn't
wreck it. We'd have had to entertain gab
as well. Oh, yeah, of course.
Yeah, because Gab can't do Thursdays.
So what I want to do is just have a look through a little bit
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of news that's going on and and Joe Martin, if you can just go
through the Nets have started yet.
Yes, the Nets have started. I think he's going well.
The APP stuff has gone well. The junior training has gone
well. The senior net start next week,
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week today, Yeah, that's right. Yeah, Thursday next week.
It's all, it's all going well. Lots of things, lots of things
going on at the minute, really well planned by everybody as
well. So it's, yeah, excellent.
Good. And when you say planned, I mean
the venues are a lot different. We chatted about this I think on
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the last podcast or the one before around.
And it's not just we used to go to the Thompson Centre on a
Saturday night, a Sunday night, sorry, bowl, as many bouncers as
you could against your finger for a pint.
So it's all changed as that. It's a format for anything you
can discuss about the format job.
Yeah, I think it's. I think it's even.
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It's even different from when when I first started going to to
Nets. I think the junior setup was
pretty similar actually in that there's a lot of skills and
drills to begin with. Then you split off internets
with some of the older ones, like a five week split if you
like. But for the seniors, I think
that you probably, I mean, from memory, you probably used to do
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like a 10 week hour 9 till 10 ona Friday night.
And you know, that severely impacts my social life, Jess, as
you, as you know, whereas now I think there are the, the
probably the short, the there aren't as many, but I would say
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they're probably a little bit more intense maybe, right.
Good, good. And it's great to have the great
to have Danny here as well, who's going to obviously run a
lot of those sessions. So we'll have a big impact on
those making sure that we're working on the right things and
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and it feels like a cohesive unit.
So that's a good thing. You don't, you don't realise
that they I suppose when the pros, you know, we've had other
pro English pros that have been through the winter.
So Dan is will be at the net obviously, as you've said, has
he gone back to Australia this winter and then he's coming back
or has he uprooted and he's settled over here now?
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Good question. He has spent the winter over
here. He's had a few different things
to do. Yeah, I don't know.
But he's but he's spent this winter here and and I think
they've enjoyed it. They've had plenty of stuff to
do. Anything else from you Gooch
around the club before we go on to to the league and the real
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changes and a few bits of gossipthere.
No, no, nothing, Jess. OK, that's that's that's good.
Let's let's hope the weather continues to improve a little
bit. What's that Miss?
Some idiot driving the car on 8 field at the club for half an
hour? The theory is that they've tried
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to drive off the ground and missthe exit, got to the
groundsman's up and tried to turn around at the groundsman's
up. Rather than just reversing back,
they've actually turned the car around and got on the pitch to
turn the car around. OK, I'm sure Stan's pleased as
punch into. Yeah.
Anyway, I'm sure he'll get it sorted with his band of merry
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men and get it all up to up to speed before we start the
season. Obviously, Dutch, I think you
will have been involved in in understanding this, whether
you've been involved in the decisions from Law House.
But the rule changes that have come in, is there anything there
that you found in a little bit of a challenge for the season or
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not? I'm just going to go through
them very quickly just to keep our listeners and spectators up
to speed with it. But have you any observations
Dutch before I go through them? The one I'm most interested in
is the umpires requiring walkie talkies.
What on earth is that about? I think.
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Can you shed any light on that? Well not a great deal other than
what you will have been told by your league vet.
I think it's more the issues I don't think with the umpires who
really pushed for it. I think there was many clubs as
umpires and I think it's problems with rain affected
games or Douglas Lewis type incidents.
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Whilst we've probably got one ofthe best scorers in the league,
if not the best, who keeps on top of everything, there are
some games that do turn into a little bit of a a free for all
as to what score is required andhow many runs off the next 10
overs etcetera. So I think that's the main
reason for getting them. Can't do any harm, can it?
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So the intention is the umpires are going to communicate with
the scorer via a walkie-talkie. Yeah.
What do you think? I was going to say, did you?
Think it was to each other from square leg, yeah.
To have them walk into the middle.
How many balls left in this overand I forgot I've dropped one of
my counters? Oh yeah.
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So that's the rationale behind that, dude.
And I don't think you could do any harm.
I know there's a lot of other leagues are doing it and let's
see. I mean, I'm sure there will be
some funny moments from some of the scorers and some of the
umpires and some of you know, the likes of Stan get an older 1
and communicating. But, but let's see.
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Obviously we've got a tannoy at the club, haven't we?
And when when Warren Defriese's score scoring, if he doesn't
know the bowler's name and this is like a third or fourth team
game, he will shout over the Tannoy bowler's name.
Really don't. And expect them to tell him.
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No different. It used to happen, didn't it?
But it was like that, a new realcome as come in guys.
I don't know if you've seen it with regard.
All games will start at 12:30 now.
It clearly don't affect you clearly don't affect me.
You know, if we're going over towatch a little bit.
It was surprising Gary watching how many clubs wanted this.
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What was the reason for wanting an earliest start?
I think so. They're not finishing at 8:15 at
the time. They've had a shower and a chain
and a pint. They're getting home at half.
So time for reaching is a change.
They're not just stretching the day out trying to make sure they
get a game in or anything. I don't think so, no.
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I think it's, it's, after all, start every game in the hope
that it finishes a touch earlier.
I think there was some other rule, other proposals around a
shorter tea break and all this sort of stuff, but maybe 45
overs. But it just reminded me of the
time when we played Gary and andStan said that I think you were
forcing people to turn up where we used to turn up off past one
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for 1:45 start. And Gary said that he expected
us all to get there for 1:00. And Stan ranked and raved right.
If we have to arrive any earlier, I'll come the night
before. I don't know what he'd do now
for an half twelve start and to say.
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That's fair enough. But the problem is back in
hours. Yes, that might have been all
right. But you tell a lot further these
days, don't you? So I guess some of the away
games could be, you know, make it a longer day and that longer
day, but but, you know, a bit more rushed in the morning, I
guess. But I don't know, I suppose.
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Yeah. Yeah, times have changed.
I mean, I do remember again, I'mshowing me AG a lot of people
would work on a Saturday morningor a Sunday morning and it were
there overtime and they couldn'tget there before 1 O clock or
whatever. And I think you remember, I
think we were over at Littleborough and there were a
little bit of traffic and some Rd works and it was, it was an
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hour to get home. So, you know, again, it's it's
half an hour for 80% of the games.
Another good rule change, I think.
But again, you know, the the thesmaller clubs is that's the
right way of putting it. Two side screens at each end of
the ground, which is hopefully save a bit of time in going and
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swapping them all around and everything.
There's a there's a year's graceon that Jess.
I attended the AGM last night ofthe Junior League, Lancashire
League, Premier League in brackets.
They've been given a year's grace on that so.
Yeah, because it is a big ask init, I suppose for some clubs
they're. Expensive.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. This year always, always
interests me since I didn't evencan't remember I really noticed
it when we used to play. But now and it's been a debate
at over two or three years the the teams will now bowl their
own ball. So for the listeners for since
year dot, it was always a case of the team would bat their own
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ball. Now it's always a brand new
ball, certainly in first team games and I can't remember ever
making any difference. I don't have to do Cho Garrick
can can breath shed in a light on this.
But there are some clubs that have made noises in the last two
or three years that they definitely when you give in the
ball for the opposition, the batting side of finding poorer
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balls to give to the bowling side, which I don't know if we
watched a bit too much telly, but but that can't be a bad move
if that has been happening. So now teams will always bowl
their own ball. On do you know on the 1231 Jazz
in our league, in our league meeting, in our league setup
thing, No, our club committee actually voted against it.
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You did all the committee did, all right, OK.
I was, I wasn't. What you need to know, Jess, is
when Joe speaks in the committeemeeting, it holds absolutely 0
weight. He gets talked over.
Nobody pays any attention to himor puts any stock in what he
says in those meetings whatsoever.
So now Joe, that's completely true.
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I mean, to be to be fair, it's of complete.
You know, it's not really of anyuse me being there to be honest
with you, I often nothing. That's quite hard.
But I do well now it is just because I just think it's
pointless. Yeah, but you've got a key for
the end room if that's where you're going to meet.
Well, I haven't no other. Well, where's that?
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Yeah, well, you can get in twice, let's put it that way.
I am going to get One Cup for you.
Thank you. Circles are going to be in for
3011. That's got to be good.
That was my idea. That was your idea?
Yeah, Hold on. Put it to Tony because I think
that for development of third and 4th 11 cricketers, when they
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move go into the second team, it's it's hard to gauge where
you need to stand relative to when.
If you feel in a point or at cover or whatever, if you've got
no circle, it's like you just goand stand wherever you want.
Whereas if you put a circle in, you get that proper appraisal of
where you need to be. Yeah, I think the kids would
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like it and it would stop anyone, you know, putting it
every on the edge. Definitely proper cricket, well
done, job well done. Redirected rules will now come
in for T 20s, which is a must really when you think of some of
the, you know, no results or I don't know, they're not
replayed. And then the chair, Tony
Woodworth, throughout the seasonwe've been having a few
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complaints around the standards of the umpires rooms at various
clubs. So there's a minimum stamp going
to be put in place. A lot of rubbish.
I mean. Do we have any idea what forms
these minimum standards? Is it like balls, balls of fruit
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and champagne and caviar and things like that?
No. What is it then?
Jess, come on, you obviously know what it is.
Obviously your league Rep shouldhave explained it to you what
the standard is and it's just basic hygiene.
I think a chair, that's always useful.
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So where to hang your jacket, A lockable door, towers.
Well, they went for it, but I don't think that's got through
it. There's by all accounts and I, I
won't go into detail. Obviously some of the umpires
are being asked to to get changed or to, to be housed in
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areas where you as, as Brendan Julian said once in our showers,
I won't put cattle in there. And that's true that Brendan
Julian, correct. Yeah.
Funny quote That funny quote. Yeah, it was so so you know,
it's might be difficult for someclubs to to adhere to.
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We just do to enjoy. You're so cynical about
everything. We just there is nothing wrong.
We're trying to improve in anything completely, Regis.
I guess we can't have a game without them.
Come with the umpires. We should probably look after
them, shouldn't we? I just think we look at the
standards and we'll look at, youknow, there's nothing wrong with
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improving in anything we're doing.
That elite panel looks interesting, Jess.
Yeah. I think that's, I think that's a
nice move forward and a good anda good thing for the umpires as
well because it means that they can, if you want to get on that
pathway and improve and stuff like that, then that's a really
good thing to really good thing to do.
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So I hope that clubs embrace it as it should be.
I think they have done. I think that I think the vast
majority of the umpires have, it's good on the senior umpires,
the ones who are the better umpires and the more
experienced, you know, they've, they, they have run along with
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it. And hopefully, like you said,
they will, if they're stood withlesser experienced or younger
umpires, they might learn of them.
So let's see, let's see what occurs.
So we've had some emails and I think on social media asking
what it was like as players and did we have friends at any other
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clubs. I can't think it was Bill, Bill
Sutherland who sent it in askingand what it was like to do when
you were playing. You know you played a
significant amount of time, you were a high profile player,
captain, winning trophies. Did you have many friends or
other clubs and if so, who were they and how did you manage
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playing against them? No, I didn't have any.
None whatsoever. Yeah, couple.
The only the two that I can think of off the top of my head
were Andrew Spencer at Bake Up Spenner.
Spenner. And Graham Snedder and Acquinton
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and the only amusing tale I've got about either of them was
Snedded because we used to have a rat crack.
We with Snedds when he was when he would come out to bat, if he
would walk past me on his way out to bat, I would look at the
scoreboard, weigh up the game situation and offer him a spread
on his runs for a pint. And I don't think he ever he
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ever took a pint off me. So I'd say like you'll not get
15 today or you'll not get 20 today.
And he'd always take, he'd always take me on and he would
never, ever get 15 or 20. So he'd always buy me a pint.
And Spenner. He was a couple of years ago, me
at school. We played a bit of golf away
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from cricket and we always had, we always had a bit of crap when
we when we played together against each other.
Since I've stopped playing. Oh, I had to say as well.
Probably a few at Burnley, lads.I mean that might be a surprise
to some, but you'd see them out and about more often than than
any than any of the other lads because just because of
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obviously we're in Burnley. I used to live next door to Dan,
pick up when we were kids, really young kids.
So Dan and Trevor. Dan's a nice guy.
He's a super guy. He's a good guy.
What was going to say oh I have to stop playing.
There's some ex cricketers who are members of the Golf Club now
like Andrew Payne, Andy McLeod, Nick Moulding, although I don't
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know Nick particularly well but Andrew McLeod and Payne I do
know reasonably well but that's about it really.
I didn't, we didn't really. I don't know whether we weren't
particularly popular or what. I don't know if other clubs were
mates with large some other clubs.
I'm I'm not sure. We, I don't think we were that
we were that friendly with, withanybody really.
Nick Mould is the one who calledflags and overseas amateur.
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Oh, I'll still remind him of that even next time I see him.
What about you, Jess? I mean, you played Ella.
You played Ella longer than me. What were you?
Who were your mates? I.
Purposely didn't want to be mates with him when we were
playing. OK, Paul Garrity from Nelson, I
played football with Carrots, but it was horrible being his
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friend and then because you could never get him out, you
know, one of the best players going.
But Carrots were a lovely lad. And then because I worked in
Rotten store a lot of the time, there were quite a few Rotten
Store ones that were friendly and we'd have a pint after the
game. But you know what I like when I
was playing I was always grumpy,I was always sulking if things
weren't going right or someone got 1.
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So I didn't really chat too manypeople when we were playing, but
it is an interesting question because like you said, some
people are best mates. I don't think.
I think going back probably 15 years and then beyond, it was
very rare that certainly, you know, amateurs swap clubs over.
Whereas now that it seems to be happening a little bit more and
also the Langs League clubs comein.
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So what's it like now Joe Martinabout people being friendly?
Is it all a friendly league or not?
I. Think so?
Pretty friendly with most people.
I wouldn't describe us as best friends.
Yeah. But have.
You got any mobile numbers in your phones, your place from
other clubs? No, none.
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Don't think so unless from like a coaching point of view.
Let's have a look through this is a good game, isn't?
It don't look through. It's not I am looking through.
No, it is. It's great.
Do I have any? I have a Maldalugoda.
He plays at Green Mount, but butI'm only used to coach at Law
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House and his good friend of mine, Dean Barlow, but he played
at Law Houses. Yeah, I don't think you can
really count like he played at Law House.
Yeah, Jack Edgar. OK, OK.
He's a good metre man. Finchy.
He plays at Leyland. Not actually clubs, that not
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counts. Doesn't count.
OK, it's. Quite a list you're putting
together here, yeah. It would be a good team.
Joe Halstead. It'd be a crazy team, but yeah,
go on. OK, what about anybody who
didn't play at Law House? What about what about Sam
Tucker? Have you got his number?
No. No.
No, I don't have. I don't.
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I don't have anybody else's number and that's the list.
What about you? What?
Good, good content. When you were playing, was there
anyone there that was that was like best buddies with you?
I. Think our our pretty friendly.
I grew up we Duncan Spencer and Paul Spencer knocked around with
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them quite a bit before, like inschool and stuff like that.
So, so yeah, when we played against them I know Duncan would
early for a bit, but when we played against them, quite
entertaining. A couple of lads when I worked
over back up way they were sort of all boys back up, Jerry Cayle
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and the like. But no, no, nobody else.
I don't think I can regale any tales or tell any interesting
stories about it. No, no.
So that's, you know, if there's any other questions.
Jesse, weren't you friends with Brian Penn?
Aren't you friends with Brian Penn?
Yeah, I said when I went to Rottenstore.
I. Yeah, you did.
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That was. He's a nice chap.
As well. I want more friends than that,
Jess. You guys KSC that you know me
lumber, you've all killed up thewrong trigger that one.
One of those things, Jess, I think that I think the, I think
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the things that people find amusing at different clubs is
very different. So I think you don't, I don't
have a lot in common with other people.
No, in general. In general.
No, I know what you mean. Do you know what I mean?
Yeah, I think so. So let's go on to I've just, I
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wanted to do this before we got the guest on.
So what are our thoughts betweenus all around the new courts?
It's just been announced at Rottenstall.
I'll go to you, Joe Martin. What's your thoughts?
I mean, it's a good move for Rottenstall.
Yeah. Good move for Rottenstall is a
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very good coach. Should we say who it is for
people and people may not be aware?
Yeah. Frankie.
But important, he's not playing for Rottenstall.
That's important to know. So I think that's the thing.
I think people might read it on the lecture website and go, oh,
he's gone as a coach in there and play.
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He's definitely not playing for Ronstall.
Oh. Going to be my question.
Yeah, was it? Yeah, I don't.
I don't know him like you guys know, but but yeah, reading
that, that'd be your first question.
Is he going to play for us at all and is he allowed to?
Actually, that's a wonderful question, Jess, Certainly the
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second part of it, because if you wanted to be a coach,
because I think, yeah, can you be a coach at another club and
play for a different 1? I don't know.
I presume you can. You could kind of say it's your
job, couldn't you? But if you were trying to get
paid by your own club and you could argue that you've been
paid to play, I guess I don't know.
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What about the first part of thequestion?
Don't really know that either, but he could.
He might do, but he might not. Can I does that?
Answer your question. Can I just add that the the
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plans are being made without him?
Right, OK. He's got a bit of a bizarre
relationship with cricket. He's a very complicated
character, as you all know. He does have a, he does have a
bit of a strange relationship with cricket and he and he is,
it's a strained relationship between him and the game and it
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was a bit of a struggle for him at times for motivation
throughout the last couple of years.
And I think he's decided that heneeds a break, maybe an
indefinite 1. Right.
OK, there'll be a miss, you know, certainly the last three
or four years. His battings, you know, he held
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things together into you. I know he wasn't bowling much at
all, but you know, good luck to him and I'm sure people will
benefit at Rockstar, his experience of coaching there.
So we'll go on. The spreadsheet is opened at
last for the draw. So if we can, we'll go to the
guest. Paddy Martin is the has been
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announced as the chair of the ladies section at My House
Cricket Club. Is is he there with you, Joe?
He's not. He's fixing my sister's door
handle. He's not here.
He is on emergency duty helping my sister.
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So let's get this right. We planned about 10 days ago to
to have the podcast on Monday, just gone with brother Patrick
on. We all changed arrangements,
right for the Monday. Sure.
Patrick then decided he couldn'tdo the Monday, the Thursday, so
we rearranged all our arrangements, including Gav
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being unavailed to come on and he guttered.
And Paddy's not here because he's meant because an angel's
dropped off. I mean, it seems like you're mad
at me, Jazz, but I'm not I'm here.
Yeah. Can you tell us all about the
ladies section and and how you're going to manage the the
different aspects of it I. Mean I'll give it a go.
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Ben talk like your brother so. I don't think I can do that, but
I can give a go. If you've got any questions,
I'll try and answer them. It's a great.
I mean ladies players have we got?
I don't know that. OK.
What? Where the team the team going to
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play against? I don't know that either.
OK, but no, I can let me start from the beginning.
So there is an ECB directive outfor Premier Leagues now that
they need a girls and women's section and.
Obviously, the Premier League needs to have.
A club, yeah, definitely. And that's, and that's a great
thing because at the minute for our teams, for example, all
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mixed teams, doesn't matter whatgender you are, you will play in
those teams. But it's also perfectly
reasonable for girls and women to want to play in single sex
teams and and it's only right that they're given the
opportunity by which to do so. And if we can facilitate that
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then that's a really good thing.So this directive is out for all
clubs. We've gone early with it.
Obviously Rami already have thatset up and we do have a good
number of of girls that play at the club now, admittedly at
different ages. But when you kind of develop
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that section, it will obviously spread and you've got Dynamos
and and All Stars that's going to directly feed into some of
those, into some of those teams.So I think it's a really good
initiative, more opportunity forpeople, more access, more people
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at the club as well. So that's the that's the idea
behind it. Initially they it will be a
girls section, so not senior cricket, but there will be teams
and coaching I think up to 18 but that can be kind of
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confirmed later down the line and obviously starting from the
youngest age groups at the minute which are under knives.
It could only be good Joe. And when you think of, you know,
the pedigree from from law House, which is really, you
know, it's all credit to the likes of Ben, you know, and Stan
that's encouraged this to come along and Charlie with Eliza
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that we've had the two. Well, there's more than Eliza
and and Liberty in there. Yeah, definitely.
When you look at the pipeline ofcricketers at the club,
especially for the for the womenand girls, we've we've developed
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a large, a good number of girls county cricketers.
So you've got Lib that's, you know, played, you know, England,
England level. Grace Johnson, who's a county
cricketer now, played at Law House, now now at Rammy.
But then you've got Eliza and you Laraway.
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Georgie Holt who played Lancashire second team cricket,
I think she played some first team games as well and a whole
host of of players underneath them as well.
You've got Taylor Devries who's been in Lancashire set up.
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So there's there's quite a good track record of developing go
cricketers that are playing for ranks.
And hopefully this will create even more and give them more
opportunity by which to develop the skills and and play in a
whole host of different teams. And there can be even more
people like Lib and Eliza. You know, Eliza's out in India
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at the minute, which is fantastic and she's doing really
well. So, you know, fantastic work by,
by by those already and and hopefully it can continue with
this. Yeah, brilliant.
It's got to be, you know, it's obviously going to be it's a
good thing. Get people, you know, some
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people who are listening, you know, whether it's, you know,
the young girls or the young boys, get them going to the club
and you know and seek stand out and and you know, good on Paddy
for taking it to taking this on.Are we working with schools or
anything like that, John, that front just to try and rather
than, you know, I'm not saying we're just waiting for existing
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members to have young daughters coming through or anything like
that, but you know, we've got a cap, we've got to recruit from
somewhere, aren't we? Sure.
Definitely. That's a great question.
Great question, Gary. Yeah.
So there will be bits of engagement with with schools to,
you know, raise awareness aroundaround some of these things.
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We have links with Burnley football Club and I know that
might sound a bit weird, but they have they do have a cricket
section and they go into, they also go into schools and one of
their coaches helps coach at lower house as well.
I don't know all the details on that, but there are links
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outside the membership if you like that we're going to be able
to tap into. So it looks really positive
actually. And.
Actually, it's probably the wrong word to add on the end of
that. It looks really positive I
think. Really good access.
Brilliant. Good work, right?
We'll move on to the draw. Does anyone, just as an aside,
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are we just flicking through thewebsite?
Does anyone look at the recentlyadded scorecard section?
Yeah, I do. Great.
It's grateful. Our second team, there's one
come on from Todd. Obviously Todd would find a lot
of score books. 1995 the second team there.
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Gary what? They'd be probably better than
us in first team. Ted Whittle, Frank Terry, Small,
great great bowler. Phil Aston, Peter Gaynor, Jerry
Dore, Bless his sob. Igay Chess, Ryan Ruster.
What a side. Yeah, can't argue with that.
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Got beat with Todd though. Look at Chess's figures. 39 for
four. He could play, he could play
chess and he's a rock star. He'd.
Be a game Las Vegas with four jumpers on as well.
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No socks. Trailers.
I want to ask him about that guys and his responses.
Well, yeah, I'm an idiot. Oh yeah.
OK, let's move on. Agreed.
They're back together aren't they?
Complete control. I've seen there's a few gigs.
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Oh, is that? Yeah, yeah.
Right. Yeah, because they had a spat,
didn't they? I think.
And they all fell out and then they announced quite a few gigs
around Akron to them. They began to call soon Joe for
roadie slash driver slash yeah security.
Yeah. Do you know he's got a really
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heavy mic stand? It's quite difficult to carry.
Heavy metal. Punk in it.
Doesn't that you carry? It no, but I go on help because
he's got a series of items that he needs to take with him.
He has like a kit bag that he takes.
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I don't know what's in it. So it could almost be a little
bit like that pro we had that year who said so, Well, go fetch
my bag, she says to you. We'll collect my kit bag.
Stand second amp as well. Doesn't really need an amp, does
he? Right draw.
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Powerful voice. This is the February draw.
We're doing well at keeping up with it.
Get three or four months behind.So I've still not paid one from
last month because I've I just need to get find me cheque book
and and deal with that completely separately.
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But this month is the norm Mr. Gregory.
Do you mean Alan? Yeah, that's the one on Laura's
Crescent. Well done, Mr Gregory.
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It's it's. Mr that I need to to get a check
to. I'm struggling to transfer it
and. Oh, funny.
So there is now 4 prizes, £100.80 pound, 70 LB and 50 LB.
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So let's hope that we get some good winners out of this.
This time, please, Joe Martin. Sure.
So if you can get your randomly generated number app, roll them
around and give us a number between 1:00 and 1:00 7/7. #52.
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#52 That number is free, so we need to draw it again. #64
number. 64 is Jean No, no, it's Jean Jean Hare, I'm quite sure.
Is it Janice? Can you repeat that please?
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Yeah, Jean, it's Missus Jean Hare.
Jean has 2 numbers been in sinceApril 2021.
So well done Jean. Well done, Jean.
Well done, Jane. Coming your way.
The next one, please, Joe. #95. Laura Wren, OH.
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Fantastic, excellent, worthy winner.
Laura Wren, daughter of Judith and sister to Andrew and
daughter to the late David, who has so much esteem down at the
Cricket Club. So well done, Laura.
We need to interview them, Jazz.Yeah, we I did do one game last
year. It's on before.
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I might send it you. Oh.
Yeah, nice. If you can extract any bits.
It's funny really because Laura,you know, I'm in contact with
Judy, she helps me out with finding some of the the people
who I need to pay on this. Mister Jack Lee got in touch
through Judith but I believe Judith pays for Laura and
Andrew's numbers, which I find ridiculous.
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They should pay for them on at this stage.
So I might send it to to Judith.So another number please Joe for
£70. Number 89.
He won last month and he's richest bloke at the club.
No, it's not again, is it? He plays.
Yeah. He's won again.
Yeah, Bloody hell. How many numbers does he have?
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Does he just have one number? One number.
Well done, Chris. Well done Chris, another
popular. 170 pounds, 80 LB last month.
I'll tell you what as well, I'lljust because I message him
straight away and say look Chris, you've won this, I'll
send it here and I don't have any bank details for him, for
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him. So he has me sending it to
Lindsay's account and then Lindsay gives him cash.
That's got to be some sort of money laundering.
Yeah, but. Won't let me send it to him so
well done Chris. The last prime February 2025 for
£50 draws a number please Joe. 177.
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It's Jeff Salisbury Jeff, so he's one of the the canteen lot
who who comes on and stands on the steps, supports the club for
years. He did win in March 23, but well
done. Jeff generally likes cash on a
match day, so I'll get that to you.
Good work. Thanks John.
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Again, anyone who's listening who wants to join.
We have had quite a few new joiners but also you can get
these three numbers snapped up, so that'd be great.
Where's Glasgow? It's done one I.
Think you were disgusted with that draw so he's just dropped
off. Yeah, he.
Couldn't stand another Blazard winner.
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So everyone thanks ever so much for listening.
It's soon be the the start of the season so we can meet up.
Hopefully nice sunny weather andwe can get we can get together,
have a pint and watch the watch the the house hopefully have a
good start to the season. Joe Martin, thanks ever so much
for coming on and assisting withit.
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and goodbye. Gordon, Gordon, send more House.
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To save the house.
Although it had me listed as Mr Joseph Martin.
What did you want to do? It needs to change.
It needs to change that, but I didn't want to.
I didn't want to bring it up there.
You. Should have brought that up.
Excuse me. Excuse me?
This is wrong. Can we pencil this in please?
Who Who changed it? Tony.
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Well, Tony, Tony, Tony usually does, I guess, but he wasn't
there. I think he was working.
So Steve Hunsley chaired it and Duncan was there as well.
Steve Hunsley had two roles lastnight.
It was quite, it didn't make me laugh a bit.
It was there as like assistant chairman or whatever it is.
(00:46):
So he started it, but he was also treasurer or accountant or
something. So he had to do, he had to do a
statement as chairman and then said and now I will do 1
treasure. To the Treasury.
Any change? Any change seats to the next
seats along. It made me laugh a lot.
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It was funny. Yes.
I think I might have said this to you before.
I'll gladly do pretty much anything for our house.
You know I will. You know, I'm a big club man.
I'll do anything for the club but I will not be a league Rep.
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There isn't. There's no way that I would be a
league Rep, unfortunately. But.
But you do need them. But I couldn't.
But I don't think I could do it.But I thought morally, because
of why Stan couldn't be there, Ithought I will step into the
brief nobody. Because if nobody said anything,
I have no doubt that he would have gone.
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Yeah. And that.
And that wasn't fair. So.
Yeah. Jazz.
Yes, Joe. Really sorry Paddy can't make
it. And the reason for that, the
reason for that is where my sister lives.
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I don't know. She's got some kind of like new
house thing. The the handle of the door, a
front door has come off so she can't get into a house.
So Paddy's trying to sort it at the minute because he's a handy,
handy man. He isn't really.
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He's very price, very practical.Jess, he's very practical.
He's got a lot of tools. You want to see the number of
tools he's got, not excluding me.
Hey, guys. Evening, gentlemen.
Hey, Gary. You're well.
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Yeah, good. You've.
I'm glad you didn't dial in on time Gary, because you would
have lost 5 minutes of your lifeyou'd never got back with these
two idiots. The Georgia show harsh.
Very harsh. They both I don't know how old,
but going on mate to whinging and moaning about stuff rather
than rather than doing it Gary, like me and you the wind, you
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ate it and I never won't do this.
I won't do that. I didn't.
Do it. You weren't even there, Jess.
I'm you're supposed to be I. Wasn't giving me apologies.
I was there in two roles last night.
I was there as lower house Rep and EDI lead.
Love a lot after you you get oneof them titles.
Oh. Yeah, yeah.
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I got an e-mail from him this week actually asking me for five
bullet points of what I've done,what I've done well, that.
'D be a good thing on here, wouldn't it?
Yeah. Sometimes there's got some good
bits in this in this early section that Joe manages to get
in and it's quite funny, but I don't seem to be going that way
this time. I suppose Paddy saving his
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sister because she's locked out is quite interesting how she got
locked out. Joe I.
Think she? I don't know.
So I'm going to, I'm going to put some hypotheses together.
I think she would have come downstairs, locked the door and
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actually locked the door. The handle dropped off and it
can't, and it can't get back on.Yes, just in your, in your
professional capacity, you've interviewed a lot of criminals
who lie to your face on you. What?
What, What in terms of credibility, what are you giving
this story out of 10? Well, I don't know.
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I don't know how she's done it. It's below 2.
What do you mean I have made it up?
I will tell you that I've made it up because I don't know what
the answer is, Jess. So, as Alex told you, that or.
No, I don't know anything that. You've made it up.
I've guessed at what's happened.I know that.
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So I know 2 ends of this story. I don't know the middle.
I know that she can't get into ahouse because the handles
dropped off the door. I don't know how it happened or
or where to begin. I don't know, Jess.
I'm not locksmith. It's a dog hate me homework
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excuses. I'm not Yale.
I'm not from Yale or Timpson's. Am I supposed to know?
Or Harvard. Golden Golden send more house to
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save the house. Hello everyone and welcome to
Lower House Cricket Club podcast.
It's still winter I think, but we're getting closer towards
spring. It's a little bit lighter each
night. A lovely day today around here.
(06:23):
I don't know about elsewhere butSprings just around the corner
again. We've got a fantastic team on to
bring this podcast to you. Hopefully we've got some good
stories. We've got a good guest that's
coming on a bit of breaking newsand and hopefully you'll all
(06:46):
enjoy it. But first of all, I'll go
through the the other horse. We've got Joe Beneduch here.
All right, Duch. All right.
Cheers. Good luck.
Good luck, Gary, from all the way down South Gaz, you are.
All right. Cheers, Graham.
And we've got Joe Martin. Hey, Joe.
Hi, Jeremy. How are you?
What we're going to do on this episode, we've got some
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discussions to run through with with each other.
We've got the draw to do and we've got a guest coming on
who's taking up a new role at lower house.
We booked him probably 3 weeks ago.
Looking forward to chatting to him to see how the the role came
(07:27):
about. It's, it's quite a significant
part he'll play and it's, it's amove forward which is is
fantastic. Not many other clubs have done
it yet. So, so great work on having
Paddy Martin on a little bit later, OK?
So we're supposed to be, we're supposed to record this on
Monday as well. We moved it to Thursday just to
accommodate. Paddy didn't, if you remember.
(07:48):
That's right. Yeah.
We were old. Today isn't really that
convenient for me, so I moved from Monday.
So it's good that you know we can get him on and get it in
because we could have had other guests on if Paddy couldn't
wreck it. We'd have had to entertain gab
as well. Oh, yeah, of course.
Yeah, because Gab can't do Thursdays.
So what I want to do is just have a look through a little bit
(08:11):
of news that's going on and and Joe Martin, if you can just go
through the Nets have started yet.
Yes, the Nets have started. I think he's going well.
The APP stuff has gone well. The junior training has gone
well. The senior net start next week,
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week today, Yeah, that's right. Yeah, Thursday next week.
It's all, it's all going well. Lots of things, lots of things
going on at the minute, really well planned by everybody as
well. So it's, yeah, excellent.
Good. And when you say planned, I mean
the venues are a lot different. We chatted about this I think on
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the last podcast or the one before around.
And it's not just we used to go to the Thompson Centre on a
Saturday night, a Sunday night, sorry, bowl, as many bouncers as
you could against your finger for a pint.
So it's all changed as that. It's a format for anything you
can discuss about the format job.
Yeah, I think it's. I think it's even.
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It's even different from when when I first started going to to
Nets. I think the junior setup was
pretty similar actually in that there's a lot of skills and
drills to begin with. Then you split off internets
with some of the older ones, like a five week split if you
like. But for the seniors, I think
that you probably, I mean, from memory, you probably used to do
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like a 10 week hour 9 till 10 ona Friday night.
And you know, that severely impacts my social life, Jess, as
you, as you know, whereas now I think there are the, the
probably the short, the there aren't as many, but I would say
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they're probably a little bit more intense maybe, right.
Good, good. And it's great to have the great
to have Danny here as well, who's going to obviously run a
lot of those sessions. So we'll have a big impact on
those making sure that we're working on the right things and
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and it feels like a cohesive unit.
So that's a good thing. You don't, you don't realise
that they I suppose when the pros, you know, we've had other
pro English pros that have been through the winter.
So Dan is will be at the net obviously, as you've said, has
he gone back to Australia this winter and then he's coming back
or has he uprooted and he's settled over here now?
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Good question. He has spent the winter over
here. He's had a few different things
to do. Yeah, I don't know.
But he's but he's spent this winter here and and I think
they've enjoyed it. They've had plenty of stuff to
do. Anything else from you Gooch
around the club before we go on to to the league and the real
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changes and a few bits of gossipthere.
No, no, nothing, Jess. OK, that's that's that's good.
Let's let's hope the weather continues to improve a little
bit. What's that Miss?
Some idiot driving the car on 8 field at the club for half an
hour? The theory is that they've tried
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to drive off the ground and missthe exit, got to the
groundsman's up and tried to turn around at the groundsman's
up. Rather than just reversing back,
they've actually turned the car around and got on the pitch to
turn the car around. OK, I'm sure Stan's pleased as
punch into. Yeah.
Anyway, I'm sure he'll get it sorted with his band of merry
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men and get it all up to up to speed before we start the
season. Obviously, Dutch, I think you
will have been involved in in understanding this, whether
you've been involved in the decisions from Law House.
But the rule changes that have come in, is there anything there
that you found in a little bit of a challenge for the season or
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not? I'm just going to go through
them very quickly just to keep our listeners and spectators up
to speed with it. But have you any observations
Dutch before I go through them? The one I'm most interested in
is the umpires requiring walkie talkies.
What on earth is that about? I think.
(12:36):
Can you shed any light on that? Well not a great deal other than
what you will have been told by your league vet.
I think it's more the issues I don't think with the umpires who
really pushed for it. I think there was many clubs as
umpires and I think it's problems with rain affected
games or Douglas Lewis type incidents.
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Whilst we've probably got one ofthe best scorers in the league,
if not the best, who keeps on top of everything, there are
some games that do turn into a little bit of a a free for all
as to what score is required andhow many runs off the next 10
overs etcetera. So I think that's the main
reason for getting them. Can't do any harm, can it?
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So the intention is the umpires are going to communicate with
the scorer via a walkie-talkie. Yeah.
What do you think? I was going to say, did you?
Think it was to each other from square leg, yeah.
To have them walk into the middle.
How many balls left in this overand I forgot I've dropped one of
my counters? Oh yeah.
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So that's the rationale behind that, dude.
And I don't think you could do any harm.
I know there's a lot of other leagues are doing it and let's
see. I mean, I'm sure there will be
some funny moments from some of the scorers and some of the
umpires and some of you know, the likes of Stan get an older 1
and communicating. But, but let's see.
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Obviously we've got a tannoy at the club, haven't we?
And when when Warren Defriese's score scoring, if he doesn't
know the bowler's name and this is like a third or fourth team
game, he will shout over the Tannoy bowler's name.
Really don't. And expect them to tell him.
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No different. It used to happen, didn't it?
But it was like that, a new realcome as come in guys.
I don't know if you've seen it with regard.
All games will start at 12:30 now.
It clearly don't affect you clearly don't affect me.
You know, if we're going over towatch a little bit.
It was surprising Gary watching how many clubs wanted this.
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What was the reason for wanting an earliest start?
I think so. They're not finishing at 8:15 at
the time. They've had a shower and a chain
and a pint. They're getting home at half.
So time for reaching is a change.
They're not just stretching the day out trying to make sure they
get a game in or anything. I don't think so, no.
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I think it's, it's, after all, start every game in the hope
that it finishes a touch earlier.
I think there was some other rule, other proposals around a
shorter tea break and all this sort of stuff, but maybe 45
overs. But it just reminded me of the
time when we played Gary and andStan said that I think you were
forcing people to turn up where we used to turn up off past one
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for 1:45 start. And Gary said that he expected
us all to get there for 1:00. And Stan ranked and raved right.
If we have to arrive any earlier, I'll come the night
before. I don't know what he'd do now
for an half twelve start and to say.
(16:00):
That's fair enough. But the problem is back in
hours. Yes, that might have been all
right. But you tell a lot further these
days, don't you? So I guess some of the away
games could be, you know, make it a longer day and that longer
day, but but, you know, a bit more rushed in the morning, I
guess. But I don't know, I suppose.
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Yeah. Yeah, times have changed.
I mean, I do remember again, I'mshowing me AG a lot of people
would work on a Saturday morningor a Sunday morning and it were
there overtime and they couldn'tget there before 1 O clock or
whatever. And I think you remember, I
think we were over at Littleborough and there were a
little bit of traffic and some Rd works and it was, it was an
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hour to get home. So, you know, again, it's it's
half an hour for 80% of the games.
Another good rule change, I think.
But again, you know, the the thesmaller clubs is that's the
right way of putting it. Two side screens at each end of
the ground, which is hopefully save a bit of time in going and
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swapping them all around and everything.
There's a there's a year's graceon that Jess.
I attended the AGM last night ofthe Junior League, Lancashire
League, Premier League in brackets.
They've been given a year's grace on that so.
Yeah, because it is a big ask init, I suppose for some clubs
they're. Expensive.
(17:23):
Yeah, yeah, yeah. This year always, always
interests me since I didn't evencan't remember I really noticed
it when we used to play. But now and it's been a debate
at over two or three years the the teams will now bowl their
own ball. So for the listeners for since
year dot, it was always a case of the team would bat their own
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ball. Now it's always a brand new
ball, certainly in first team games and I can't remember ever
making any difference. I don't have to do Cho Garrick
can can breath shed in a light on this.
But there are some clubs that have made noises in the last two
or three years that they definitely when you give in the
ball for the opposition, the batting side of finding poorer
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balls to give to the bowling side, which I don't know if we
watched a bit too much telly, but but that can't be a bad move
if that has been happening. So now teams will always bowl
their own ball. On do you know on the 1231 Jazz
in our league, in our league meeting, in our league setup
thing, No, our club committee actually voted against it.
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You did all the committee did, all right, OK.
I was, I wasn't. What you need to know, Jess, is
when Joe speaks in the committeemeeting, it holds absolutely 0
weight. He gets talked over.
Nobody pays any attention to himor puts any stock in what he
says in those meetings whatsoever.
So now Joe, that's completely true.
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I mean, to be to be fair, it's of complete.
You know, it's not really of anyuse me being there to be honest
with you, I often nothing. That's quite hard.
But I do well now it is just because I just think it's
pointless. Yeah, but you've got a key for
the end room if that's where you're going to meet.
Well, I haven't no other. Well, where's that?
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Yeah, well, you can get in twice, let's put it that way.
I am going to get One Cup for you.
Thank you. Circles are going to be in for
3011. That's got to be good.
That was my idea. That was your idea?
Yeah, Hold on. Put it to Tony because I think
that for development of third and 4th 11 cricketers, when they
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move go into the second team, it's it's hard to gauge where
you need to stand relative to when.
If you feel in a point or at cover or whatever, if you've got
no circle, it's like you just goand stand wherever you want.
Whereas if you put a circle in, you get that proper appraisal of
where you need to be. Yeah, I think the kids would
(20:03):
like it and it would stop anyone, you know, putting it
every on the edge. Definitely proper cricket, well
done, job well done. Redirected rules will now come
in for T 20s, which is a must really when you think of some of
the, you know, no results or I don't know, they're not
replayed. And then the chair, Tony
Woodworth, throughout the seasonwe've been having a few
(20:24):
complaints around the standards of the umpires rooms at various
clubs. So there's a minimum stamp going
to be put in place. A lot of rubbish.
I mean. Do we have any idea what forms
these minimum standards? Is it like balls, balls of fruit
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and champagne and caviar and things like that?
No. What is it then?
Jess, come on, you obviously know what it is.
Obviously your league Rep shouldhave explained it to you what
the standard is and it's just basic hygiene.
I think a chair, that's always useful.
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So where to hang your jacket, A lockable door, towers.
Well, they went for it, but I don't think that's got through
it. There's by all accounts and I, I
won't go into detail. Obviously some of the umpires
are being asked to to get changed or to, to be housed in
(21:40):
areas where you as, as Brendan Julian said once in our showers,
I won't put cattle in there. And that's true that Brendan
Julian, correct. Yeah.
Funny quote That funny quote. Yeah, it was so so you know,
it's might be difficult for someclubs to to adhere to.
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We just do to enjoy. You're so cynical about
everything. We just there is nothing wrong.
We're trying to improve in anything completely, Regis.
I guess we can't have a game without them.
Come with the umpires. We should probably look after
them, shouldn't we? I just think we look at the
standards and we'll look at, youknow, there's nothing wrong with
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improving in anything we're doing.
That elite panel looks interesting, Jess.
Yeah. I think that's, I think that's a
nice move forward and a good anda good thing for the umpires as
well because it means that they can, if you want to get on that
pathway and improve and stuff like that, then that's a really
good thing to really good thing to do.
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So I hope that clubs embrace it as it should be.
I think they have done. I think that I think the vast
majority of the umpires have, it's good on the senior umpires,
the ones who are the better umpires and the more
experienced, you know, they've, they, they have run along with
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it. And hopefully, like you said,
they will, if they're stood withlesser experienced or younger
umpires, they might learn of them.
So let's see, let's see what occurs.
So we've had some emails and I think on social media asking
what it was like as players and did we have friends at any other
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clubs. I can't think it was Bill, Bill
Sutherland who sent it in askingand what it was like to do when
you were playing. You know you played a
significant amount of time, you were a high profile player,
captain, winning trophies. Did you have many friends or
other clubs and if so, who were they and how did you manage
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playing against them? No, I didn't have any.
None whatsoever. Yeah, couple.
The only the two that I can think of off the top of my head
were Andrew Spencer at Bake Up Spenner.
Spenner. And Graham Snedder and Acquinton
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and the only amusing tale I've got about either of them was
Snedded because we used to have a rat crack.
We with Snedds when he was when he would come out to bat, if he
would walk past me on his way out to bat, I would look at the
scoreboard, weigh up the game situation and offer him a spread
on his runs for a pint. And I don't think he ever he
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ever took a pint off me. So I'd say like you'll not get
15 today or you'll not get 20 today.
And he'd always take, he'd always take me on and he would
never, ever get 15 or 20. So he'd always buy me a pint.
And Spenner. He was a couple of years ago, me
at school. We played a bit of golf away
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from cricket and we always had, we always had a bit of crap when
we when we played together against each other.
Since I've stopped playing. Oh, I had to say as well.
Probably a few at Burnley, lads.I mean that might be a surprise
to some, but you'd see them out and about more often than than
any than any of the other lads because just because of
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obviously we're in Burnley. I used to live next door to Dan,
pick up when we were kids, really young kids.
So Dan and Trevor. Dan's a nice guy.
He's a super guy. He's a good guy.
What was going to say oh I have to stop playing.
There's some ex cricketers who are members of the Golf Club now
like Andrew Payne, Andy McLeod, Nick Moulding, although I don't
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know Nick particularly well but Andrew McLeod and Payne I do
know reasonably well but that's about it really.
I didn't, we didn't really. I don't know whether we weren't
particularly popular or what. I don't know if other clubs were
mates with large some other clubs.
I'm I'm not sure. We, I don't think we were that
we were that friendly with, withanybody really.
Nick Mould is the one who calledflags and overseas amateur.
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Oh, I'll still remind him of that even next time I see him.
What about you, Jess? I mean, you played Ella.
You played Ella longer than me. What were you?
Who were your mates? I.
Purposely didn't want to be mates with him when we were
playing. OK, Paul Garrity from Nelson, I
played football with Carrots, but it was horrible being his
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friend and then because you could never get him out, you
know, one of the best players going.
But Carrots were a lovely lad. And then because I worked in
Rotten store a lot of the time, there were quite a few Rotten
Store ones that were friendly and we'd have a pint after the
game. But you know what I like when I
was playing I was always grumpy,I was always sulking if things
weren't going right or someone got 1.
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So I didn't really chat too manypeople when we were playing, but
it is an interesting question because like you said, some
people are best mates. I don't think.
I think going back probably 15 years and then beyond, it was
very rare that certainly, you know, amateurs swap clubs over.
Whereas now that it seems to be happening a little bit more and
also the Langs League clubs comein.
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So what's it like now Joe Martinabout people being friendly?
Is it all a friendly league or not?
I. Think so?
Pretty friendly with most people.
I wouldn't describe us as best friends.
Yeah. But have.
You got any mobile numbers in your phones, your place from
other clubs? No, none.
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Don't think so unless from like a coaching point of view.
Let's have a look through this is a good game, isn't?
It don't look through. It's not I am looking through.
No, it is. It's great.
Do I have any? I have a Maldalugoda.
He plays at Green Mount, but butI'm only used to coach at Law
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House and his good friend of mine, Dean Barlow, but he played
at Law Houses. Yeah, I don't think you can
really count like he played at Law House.
Yeah, Jack Edgar. OK, OK.
He's a good metre man. Finchy.
He plays at Leyland. Not actually clubs, that not
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counts. Doesn't count.
OK, it's. Quite a list you're putting
together here, yeah. It would be a good team.
Joe Halstead. It'd be a crazy team, but yeah,
go on. OK, what about anybody who
didn't play at Law House? What about what about Sam
Tucker? Have you got his number?
No. No.
No, I don't have. I don't.
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I don't have anybody else's number and that's the list.
What about you? What?
Good, good content. When you were playing, was there
anyone there that was that was like best buddies with you?
I. Think our our pretty friendly.
I grew up we Duncan Spencer and Paul Spencer knocked around with
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them quite a bit before, like inschool and stuff like that.
So, so yeah, when we played against them I know Duncan would
early for a bit, but when we played against them, quite
entertaining. A couple of lads when I worked
over back up way they were sort of all boys back up, Jerry Cayle
(29:34):
and the like. But no, no, nobody else.
I don't think I can regale any tales or tell any interesting
stories about it. No, no.
So that's, you know, if there's any other questions.
Jesse, weren't you friends with Brian Penn?
Aren't you friends with Brian Penn?
Yeah, I said when I went to Rottenstore.
I. Yeah, you did.
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That was. He's a nice chap.
As well. I want more friends than that,
Jess. You guys KSC that you know me
lumber, you've all killed up thewrong trigger that one.
One of those things, Jess, I think that I think the, I think
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the things that people find amusing at different clubs is
very different. So I think you don't, I don't
have a lot in common with other people.
No, in general. In general.
No, I know what you mean. Do you know what I mean?
Yeah, I think so. So let's go on to I've just, I
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wanted to do this before we got the guest on.
So what are our thoughts betweenus all around the new courts?
It's just been announced at Rottenstall.
I'll go to you, Joe Martin. What's your thoughts?
I mean, it's a good move for Rottenstall.
Yeah. Good move for Rottenstall is a
(31:00):
very good coach. Should we say who it is for
people and people may not be aware?
Yeah. Frankie.
But important, he's not playing for Rottenstall.
That's important to know. So I think that's the thing.
I think people might read it on the lecture website and go, oh,
he's gone as a coach in there and play.
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He's definitely not playing for Ronstall.
Oh. Going to be my question.
Yeah, was it? Yeah, I don't.
I don't know him like you guys know, but but yeah, reading
that, that'd be your first question.
Is he going to play for us at all and is he allowed to?
Actually, that's a wonderful question, Jess, Certainly the
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second part of it, because if you wanted to be a coach,
because I think, yeah, can you be a coach at another club and
play for a different 1? I don't know.
I presume you can. You could kind of say it's your
job, couldn't you? But if you were trying to get
paid by your own club and you could argue that you've been
paid to play, I guess I don't know.
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What about the first part of thequestion?
Don't really know that either, but he could.
He might do, but he might not. Can I does that?
Answer your question. Can I just add that the the
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plans are being made without him?
Right, OK. He's got a bit of a bizarre
relationship with cricket. He's a very complicated
character, as you all know. He does have a, he does have a
bit of a strange relationship with cricket and he and he is,
it's a strained relationship between him and the game and it
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was a bit of a struggle for him at times for motivation
throughout the last couple of years.
And I think he's decided that heneeds a break, maybe an
indefinite 1. Right.
OK, there'll be a miss, you know, certainly the last three
or four years. His battings, you know, he held
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things together into you. I know he wasn't bowling much at
all, but you know, good luck to him and I'm sure people will
benefit at Rockstar, his experience of coaching there.
So we'll go on. The spreadsheet is opened at
last for the draw. So if we can, we'll go to the
guest. Paddy Martin is the has been
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announced as the chair of the ladies section at My House
Cricket Club. Is is he there with you, Joe?
He's not. He's fixing my sister's door
handle. He's not here.
He is on emergency duty helping my sister.
(33:55):
So let's get this right. We planned about 10 days ago to
to have the podcast on Monday, just gone with brother Patrick
on. We all changed arrangements,
right for the Monday. Sure.
Patrick then decided he couldn'tdo the Monday, the Thursday, so
we rearranged all our arrangements, including Gav
(34:17):
being unavailed to come on and he guttered.
And Paddy's not here because he's meant because an angel's
dropped off. I mean, it seems like you're mad
at me, Jazz, but I'm not I'm here.
Yeah. Can you tell us all about the
ladies section and and how you're going to manage the the
different aspects of it I. Mean I'll give it a go.
(34:38):
Ben talk like your brother so. I don't think I can do that, but
I can give a go. If you've got any questions,
I'll try and answer them. It's a great.
I mean ladies players have we got?
I don't know that. OK.
What? Where the team the team going to
(35:00):
play against? I don't know that either.
OK, but no, I can let me start from the beginning.
So there is an ECB directive outfor Premier Leagues now that
they need a girls and women's section and.
Obviously, the Premier League needs to have.
A club, yeah, definitely. And that's, and that's a great
thing because at the minute for our teams, for example, all
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mixed teams, doesn't matter whatgender you are, you will play in
those teams. But it's also perfectly
reasonable for girls and women to want to play in single sex
teams and and it's only right that they're given the
opportunity by which to do so. And if we can facilitate that
(35:48):
then that's a really good thing.So this directive is out for all
clubs. We've gone early with it.
Obviously Rami already have thatset up and we do have a good
number of of girls that play at the club now, admittedly at
different ages. But when you kind of develop
(36:11):
that section, it will obviously spread and you've got Dynamos
and and All Stars that's going to directly feed into some of
those, into some of those teams.So I think it's a really good
initiative, more opportunity forpeople, more access, more people
(36:32):
at the club as well. So that's the that's the idea
behind it. Initially they it will be a
girls section, so not senior cricket, but there will be teams
and coaching I think up to 18 but that can be kind of
(36:53):
confirmed later down the line and obviously starting from the
youngest age groups at the minute which are under knives.
It could only be good Joe. And when you think of, you know,
the pedigree from from law House, which is really, you
know, it's all credit to the likes of Ben, you know, and Stan
that's encouraged this to come along and Charlie with Eliza
(37:15):
that we've had the two. Well, there's more than Eliza
and and Liberty in there. Yeah, definitely.
When you look at the pipeline ofcricketers at the club,
especially for the for the womenand girls, we've we've developed
(37:35):
a large, a good number of girls county cricketers.
So you've got Lib that's, you know, played, you know, England,
England level. Grace Johnson, who's a county
cricketer now, played at Law House, now now at Rammy.
But then you've got Eliza and you Laraway.
(37:58):
Georgie Holt who played Lancashire second team cricket,
I think she played some first team games as well and a whole
host of of players underneath them as well.
You've got Taylor Devries who's been in Lancashire set up.
(38:21):
So there's there's quite a good track record of developing go
cricketers that are playing for ranks.
And hopefully this will create even more and give them more
opportunity by which to develop the skills and and play in a
whole host of different teams. And there can be even more
people like Lib and Eliza. You know, Eliza's out in India
(38:44):
at the minute, which is fantastic and she's doing really
well. So, you know, fantastic work by,
by by those already and and hopefully it can continue with
this. Yeah, brilliant.
It's got to be, you know, it's obviously going to be it's a
good thing. Get people, you know, some
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people who are listening, you know, whether it's, you know,
the young girls or the young boys, get them going to the club
and you know and seek stand out and and you know, good on Paddy
for taking it to taking this on.Are we working with schools or
anything like that, John, that front just to try and rather
than, you know, I'm not saying we're just waiting for existing
(39:25):
members to have young daughters coming through or anything like
that, but you know, we've got a cap, we've got to recruit from
somewhere, aren't we? Sure.
Definitely. That's a great question.
Great question, Gary. Yeah.
So there will be bits of engagement with with schools to,
you know, raise awareness aroundaround some of these things.
(39:47):
We have links with Burnley football Club and I know that
might sound a bit weird, but they have they do have a cricket
section and they go into, they also go into schools and one of
their coaches helps coach at lower house as well.
I don't know all the details on that, but there are links
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outside the membership if you like that we're going to be able
to tap into. So it looks really positive
actually. And.
Actually, it's probably the wrong word to add on the end of
that. It looks really positive I
think. Really good access.
Brilliant. Good work, right?
We'll move on to the draw. Does anyone, just as an aside,
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are we just flicking through thewebsite?
Does anyone look at the recentlyadded scorecard section?
Yeah, I do. Great.
It's grateful. Our second team, there's one
come on from Todd. Obviously Todd would find a lot
of score books. 1995 the second team there.
(40:53):
Gary what? They'd be probably better than
us in first team. Ted Whittle, Frank Terry, Small,
great great bowler. Phil Aston, Peter Gaynor, Jerry
Dore, Bless his sob. Igay Chess, Ryan Ruster.
What a side. Yeah, can't argue with that.
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Got beat with Todd though. Look at Chess's figures. 39 for
four. He could play, he could play
chess and he's a rock star. He'd.
Be a game Las Vegas with four jumpers on as well.
(41:34):
No socks. Trailers.
I want to ask him about that guys and his responses.
Well, yeah, I'm an idiot. Oh yeah.
OK, let's move on. Agreed.
They're back together aren't they?
Complete control. I've seen there's a few gigs.
(41:55):
Oh, is that? Yeah, yeah.
Right. Yeah, because they had a spat,
didn't they? I think.
And they all fell out and then they announced quite a few gigs
around Akron to them. They began to call soon Joe for
roadie slash driver slash yeah security.
Yeah. Do you know he's got a really
(42:15):
heavy mic stand? It's quite difficult to carry.
Heavy metal. Punk in it.
Doesn't that you carry? It no, but I go on help because
he's got a series of items that he needs to take with him.
He has like a kit bag that he takes.
(42:37):
I don't know what's in it. So it could almost be a little
bit like that pro we had that year who said so, Well, go fetch
my bag, she says to you. We'll collect my kit bag.
Stand second amp as well. Doesn't really need an amp, does
he? Right draw.
(42:59):
Powerful voice. This is the February draw.
We're doing well at keeping up with it.
Get three or four months behind.So I've still not paid one from
last month because I've I just need to get find me cheque book
and and deal with that completely separately.
(43:22):
But this month is the norm Mr. Gregory.
Do you mean Alan? Yeah, that's the one on Laura's
Crescent. Well done, Mr Gregory.
(43:42):
It's it's. Mr that I need to to get a check
to. I'm struggling to transfer it
and. Oh, funny.
So there is now 4 prizes, £100.80 pound, 70 LB and 50 LB.
(44:02):
So let's hope that we get some good winners out of this.
This time, please, Joe Martin. Sure.
So if you can get your randomly generated number app, roll them
around and give us a number between 1:00 and 1:00 7/7. #52.
(44:24):
#52 That number is free, so we need to draw it again. #64
number. 64 is Jean No, no, it's Jean Jean Hare, I'm quite sure.
Is it Janice? Can you repeat that please?
(44:46):
Yeah, Jean, it's Missus Jean Hare.
Jean has 2 numbers been in sinceApril 2021.
So well done Jean. Well done, Jean.
Well done, Jane. Coming your way.
The next one, please, Joe. #95. Laura Wren, OH.
(45:07):
Fantastic, excellent, worthy winner.
Laura Wren, daughter of Judith and sister to Andrew and
daughter to the late David, who has so much esteem down at the
Cricket Club. So well done, Laura.
We need to interview them, Jazz.Yeah, we I did do one game last
year. It's on before.
(45:27):
I might send it you. Oh.
Yeah, nice. If you can extract any bits.
It's funny really because Laura,you know, I'm in contact with
Judy, she helps me out with finding some of the the people
who I need to pay on this. Mister Jack Lee got in touch
through Judith but I believe Judith pays for Laura and
Andrew's numbers, which I find ridiculous.
(45:48):
They should pay for them on at this stage.
So I might send it to to Judith.So another number please Joe for
£70. Number 89.
He won last month and he's richest bloke at the club.
No, it's not again, is it? He plays.
Yeah. He's won again.
Yeah, Bloody hell. How many numbers does he have?
(46:10):
Does he just have one number? One number.
Well done, Chris. Well done Chris, another
popular. 170 pounds, 80 LB last month.
I'll tell you what as well, I'lljust because I message him
straight away and say look Chris, you've won this, I'll
send it here and I don't have any bank details for him, for
(46:31):
him. So he has me sending it to
Lindsay's account and then Lindsay gives him cash.
That's got to be some sort of money laundering.
Yeah, but. Won't let me send it to him so
well done Chris. The last prime February 2025 for
£50 draws a number please Joe. 177.
(46:54):
It's Jeff Salisbury Jeff, so he's one of the the canteen lot
who who comes on and stands on the steps, supports the club for
years. He did win in March 23, but well
done. Jeff generally likes cash on a
match day, so I'll get that to you.
Good work. Thanks John.
(47:14):
Again, anyone who's listening who wants to join.
We have had quite a few new joiners but also you can get
these three numbers snapped up, so that'd be great.
Where's Glasgow? It's done one I.
Think you were disgusted with that draw so he's just dropped
off. Yeah, he.
Couldn't stand another Blazard winner.
(47:36):
So everyone thanks ever so much for listening.
It's soon be the the start of the season so we can meet up.
Hopefully nice sunny weather andwe can get we can get together,
have a pint and watch the watch the the house hopefully have a
good start to the season. Joe Martin, thanks ever so much
for coming on and assisting withit.
(47:56):
Thanks very much Dooch. Don't forget to like and
subscribe and everything else onsocial media and support our
sponsors. Thanks very much everyone and
and goodbye. Gordon, Gordon, send more House.
(48:31):
To save the house.
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