October 3, 2025 • 50 mins
This Week on The Housecast Podcast: The Stansfield and SANDS
In this very special episode, we’re joined by Adele and Matthew Stansfield to talk about a cause that is incredibly close to their hearts, and to ours at Lowerhouse — SANDs (Stillbirth and Neonatal Death Society). They talk about their journey with their son Harry and life since.
SANDs is dedicated to saving babies’ lives and supporting families who have been affected by the death of a baby. Adele is taking on the incredible challenge of running 50km to raise vital funds for the charity, and you can support her efforts by donating here:
https://fundraising.sands.org.uk/s/42411/44994/w
The Sands National Helpline provides a safe and confidential place for anyone who has been affected, whether your loss was long ago or recent. You can call them free on 0808 164 3332 from landlines and mobiles.
This episode is one of hope, support, and community — we’d love you to listen, share, and help us raise awareness for this important cause.
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Gordon, Gordon, send more house to.
Save the House. Welcome to the House.
Cast everybody. Special edition tonight, looking
forward to having to a chat withtwo absolute, absolute legends
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of the club and Gav's on as well.
So Gav, let's have a little catch your power you when
cricket season finishes. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Well, good. Thank you, Jess.
Spend my time. Unfortunately we Matthew, but
not yet just going on. We're watching Super Clarence.
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Yeah. Do you manage it?
I mean, it's different what's you know, because we don't play
anymore. But I used to get quite
depressed through the end of September and October and then
because of no cricket and not being down the club, but I did.
Were you? Still glad to watch Super
Clarkson, you know, still still still great and what have you
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and still going into Sunday socials when I can.
So I still see, you know, everybody from the Cricket Club.
But you know, some is obviously the best time of the year.
I think we'd all agree with that.
But but no, I don't mind a couple of pounds after after
telephone that covert we stand in Paul and Aggers Dave Bridal.
Now that's a good crack. Yeah, yeah, it's it's and it
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keeps you, keeps you active, done it and gets you out having
that that socials well. Good end to the season.
I thought Gav the obviously we won it two games to go, I think
it was and then continue with that form.
I mean, we're I'm thinking of another podcast around the
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quality of the side and, you know, and the of comparing it
with sides gone by. I know it's difficult to do
that, but can you think of a better side in the Language
League and. No, absolutely not.
In 20 years. What?
Can't speak, can't lie. And you look how you look at the
league table and you look at thethe margin of victory.
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We've not scraped by even by a couple of bonus points or the
odd win. We've absolutely steamrolled
with the league. And I'm not a big stats person,
but I can't remember one team absolutely dominating, you know,
I mean, it's borderline ridiculous, you know, and you
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know, Ben and the Ben and the team you know, should should be
ever surprised, you know, And I know that they are, but no,
absolutely dominated it. You know, you know.
From pretty much halfway throughthe season and they just, they
just Marvel asked everybody really to a degree.
Yeah, and it was, you know, it was great cricket to watch.
I suppose we we've already started doing this podcast that
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we're going to plan to do at a different time, but we'll so
we'll not go on much more. But I really enjoyed how good
the cricket was to watch. You know, going you look back at
Haslington teams in the 90s and before that.
You know the backup teams, you know.
Yeah, yeah, you. Know they regret that, weren't
they? But you know, you look at the
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Lower Ice team, there's so many,you know, doesn't matter whether
we're batting a bowl and if we're batting there's, you know,
there's, there's 11 lads. You can, you can have a day.
You know, when we're bowling, you know, the conditions don't
really matter. We've got every base covered.
Yeah, it is. It's it has, it's been a
fantastic season, but let's let's move on.
Gav, we've got, like I said, a special edition this evening.
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It's what, you know, it's once again, and I don't make any
apologies for this, that we're trying to promote some charities
and fundraising, which are all relatively local but are are
being carried out by good local people from the Cricket Club.
So we've got Matthew and, and Adele Stansfield on.
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We're going to talk through, youknow, a bit of fun about the
cricket and then we're going to go on to a particular charity
that's very close to to Matthew and and Adele and just push it
and promote it and talk about it.
So first of all, Matt Stanley, welcome on.
How are you doing? Very good.
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Thank you. Good evening, Jess.
Good evening, Gavin. You'll be over the moon after
that season, I bet, Stanley, you've put so much work in and
you and the, you know, the othermembers of the board and the
committees that are around there.
You you've no complaints over that season, I guess other than
Douglas Lewis. Yeah, no, fantastic.
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It, it makes it all worthwhile with this team, what they did,
the second team, some of the cricket from the third and
fourth teams as well, especiallythat young fourth team, I think
is was exceptional. And then I think if you look
further down on that, lots of the kids teams have have been
very successful and there's someexciting prospects coming
through. And just to pick up, you were
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talking then and obviously you're going to do this on
another night, but you said about the way that the team
dominated the other thing. I thought that the team we had
in 2014 with Corbis and Matt Walker and all those in was, was
exceptional. But I'd say that that from a
collective point of view and a league point of view, the there
was a few more gimmes that year in the league.
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Weak teams, poor teams. With these two divisions set up
now there are no gimmes in everygame.
You've got to be on it or you, you come up short.
It is, it's strong. It's you know, you might look
at, you know, it's a good point that we call this, you know,
what an outstanding cricket treewas.
And that's not the detriment of any of the pros in the league at
the moment. But there were some decent pros
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around that time. But the amateurs, I don't think
were as strong then in all the league as they are in the league
at the moment. It is, it's it'd be good to
dissect it. So I will, I think we can do
that over the winter. But I think Stanley, I just want
to to move on to your missus because Adele, you know, I've
known her for donkey. She is obviously coming down the
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club with you, the start of the Rugrats with with you Matthew
and Gavin Muss and Charlie and Dutch and Matt Marquess and the
other, you know, the other lads that came through the junior
section. And Adele's been there really
from that period. Always good fun, always a real
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strong character, you know, veryloving.
And you know, we'll chat and talk and even now walk around
the ground and and I've got catch up with anyone of any age.
So Adele, I really appreciate you coming on.
Thanks very much. How are you doing?
I'm. All right.
Thank you. How are you?
Yeah. Oh, good.
Thanks. Yeah, doing a few bits and bats
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with the grandkids and what haveyou.
But no, it's all, it's all fantastic.
You were, you were down even more this year, I think Adele
was. You were down almost every game
and I'm wondering, I mean the last.
Couple years I've been doing my master's degree so I've had to
spend a bit more time obviously studying, but I finished that
last year so I've had more time to be at the club this year.
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Yeah, and it is great. You know, and this is going to
sound really old, but I remembermy dad saying it and other
people of the past, the the cricket club's almost like you
can see, you can see the movement of time.
You know, you look at, you know,my kids, you look at your two
girls and you look how people are getting older.
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You know, it is a great and it'snot just Loris, obviously it's
everywhere. So, you know, it's so good that
you and that Stella corner seemsto be growing with all you wags.
I don't know what's going on down there.
You're pushing us out. Well, we do try as best, you
know, but there's more per second corner than Stella.
Yeah, there, I bet you I bet there's some bottles that have
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gone through down there. Just a few on a Saturday
afternoon. I know, I bet, I bet.
So it's, I think, you know, it is clearly a serious topic we're
going to talk about. We're going to talk about it as
better we can as to the, the different stages throughout your
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lives you've come through and how you came across and managed
through those periods and where you are now with, with
fundraising. So you've got, we've obviously
had a little bit of liaison before we, we got here and I
didn't realise so, so you met Matthew in 97.
You can see from my research. Just tell us about that, What
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happened there? Well, we're, we're both at
college and we both had an evening job at George Foster's
up on Farrington Road, just off wasn't there Rd in place And
that's where we met. Oh.
Fantastic. In March and then that went out
with him in July. Yeah, fantastic.
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And, and you've always been, youknow, coming down the club, the
pair of you, you know, a great couple.
And you know, at that time, I think it's fair to say, Gav, you
and the likes of Charlie and Matt Marquis and we could, I
think there's another 5 or 6 of your Rugrats had a really good
camaraderie between you all, even at that young age, Gav.
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I mean, cash yourself back to 97.
You know, you're getting out there boozing.
You had a great life then and got a good time.
It's not that you don't know, but.
Yeah, absolutely. Yeah.
You know, we all knocked around,we all knocked around together
and we all played cricket in every weekend.
We were, you know, up to all good playing silly boogers.
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But you know, I remember when Stanley said he had a girl and I
thought it was going to be his carer, something like that.
I. Think I'm out of there now?
Well, yeah, absolutely. Yeah.
In that way you. Know we're all expecting him to
have a carer or something like that, but but no, all joking
aside, it just, you know, we just used to have her out laugh,
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didn't we? The summer I love and all that,
when you know, it was just a great crack and everyone were
involved and cricket almost got it where really.
Yeah, and I suppose that's wherethe central part of it was, you
know, you were all, you know, Burnley football fans, but as
well as that you were playing cricket and practising and
training and everything. So to get down at the weekends
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in the summer, you know, it was good sports.
Your memories marked going back to 97 when you first met and
then moving on to getting engaged and getting getting your
first house in 2002. Yeah, and I'll always tell you
that I remember key dates in life around sporting occasions,
but I'm not there. I'll say she'll mention
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something. I'll say, Oh yeah, Burnley won
two mil at call out day. After that she finds it a bit
bit bizarre that I remember things based on that.
But yeah, that that summer, obviously it was the Coriolan
years from, from a Cricket Club point of view as well.
But it wasn't just us. There was Charlie and Louise got
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together that summer and and we literally spent a full summer
living in each other's pockets. If, if one's set of parents were
on holiday, the others were on that kind of thing.
So we literally surfaced off and, and slept in each other's
houses for, for a full summer. The most of it, Mana Barn on a
Wednesday, Panama's on a Thursday, Panama's on a Friday.
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VIP was all you can drink for £7or something like that.
So yeah, there was a great, great times, great times.
It isn't, you know, like you know, like we know I'm quite a
bit older than you guys, but it was so much fun watching you and
seeing you all develop as peopleand, and, and in the cricket
world as well. So things move on.
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As I said, you get your house, you get engaged in 2002 and then
you get married in Cyprus with some, you know, some friends and
family there in 2568. So over just over 20 years ago.
Congratulations 20 year anniversary.
On the sporting occasions, Jess here.
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He is again. We got engaged the day after
David Beckham's penalty winner against Argentina all.
Right. Good, good lad.
So I think, I think I was still buoyed by by that in the 2002
World Cup. So yeah, and then the night
before we got married, it was the Liverpool AC Mohan, great
comeback in Istanbul, you know, the one where there were three
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no down and 333. And then did they win on
penalties in the end? That wasn't before we got
married. But yeah, I don't she's wrong.
I don't remember things about great sporting occasions at all.
No, I think what's wrong with that?
It's it's being able to rememberstuff like that and link it
together. It's no, it's good on you.
It's good on you. That.
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So your first house you bought in 2002, was that the one on
Roselle Road or did you have onebefore that?
Yeah. Yeah.
So that was obviously opposite my brother's Nicky's house.
So it was almost, we got to, youknow, to, to bump into each
other away from cricket as well,whether it were a BBQ Nikki's
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or, or bump, you know, meeting up with you or, or, or going to
the pub. So then you know, it's
constantly has all been togetheras a, you know, as a community
club, as a Cricket Club and, and, and all your friends and
everything. And then you're married in 2005.
Yeah, Nikki's, Nikki's barbecues.
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Yeah. Throwing sausages into the old
box on and stuff like that. Yeah, slipping on the deck in.
Yeah, I remember that one burning the rice.
Absolutely chaos. The old thing to me didn't there
go on, Gav. Then gin and tonics was.
I think I can still taste that last gin and tonic I had bloody
strongly. I'll bet you want Yeah.
Cheers, isn't it? I think I was chasing Corby
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around where you pretend sword. I can't remember that bit.
Nikki was in charge of cooking and it rather than test it, he
literally he'd sort of bite intoit.
No, it's not cooked. And then was it over the wall,
into the whole box or money? Yeah, and wonder why I was sick
the following day. It is funny you say that, Adele,
because we had a lot of the memories of you, you know, you
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younger ones, even whether you were 16 or 26, I don't know,
seem to be around barbecues. You know, we had that, Well,
we'll see if I can say one of them, but we had that massive
BBQ down at the club. Ryan was there, Ryan Harrison,
we had that. We got the, it wasn't the fire
brigade. It was somebody who pretended
there was a fire brigade and filled up the swim, the outdoor
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swimming pool. And Nikki completely tore his
hamstring sliding down that thatslippery slope that dealt
constantly was sliding down withfairy liquid on.
And then there was the other oneat Matt's, weren't there?
It, were it? Were mint sauce.
It were Adam's from Adam's kit bag.
Yeah, it was, yeah. Yeah, that's right.
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Yeah. And then the other one where the
the sausage kept appear in from different places.
So we were that was that was at Matt's.
But no really good memories and it's good.
I think it's quite you know, theclubs will have this.
I understand that, but I think it's lovely to see and that, you
know, there's still all those people still going down, you
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know, 30 years later if your era, you know, long may continue
so you've. We were the club, weren't we?
It's a lot different now, Yeah, yeah.
But that that sort of group of friends and, and everything
literally were the club in one way or another, because it was a
time when we work in the bar andwe're doing all those kind of
things. Any social event was was
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literally yours, wasn't it? So it's, it's a completely
different animal these days. But yeah.
Basically, yeah, yeah, basicallyit plays and their families, you
know, their wives and kids, That's that's, you know, that's
fundamental. What it were, weren't it?
Yeah, I'm just, I'm just trying to throw myself back to it.
And when, so why? Why did you lot as a really
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young group have to help out to keep the club going?
And but I suppose that was the Lofty's era, which were a really
good side and socially good set of people.
But they really moved on, didn'tthey?
I suppose. And when you look at that
bigger, the people who wouldn't have been in the 70s, there was
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a big gap. You know, there was me, Blaze
and then not many others in thatdecade after it.
And then you lock him probably adecade and 1/2 after, and I
suppose you were, you're almost like sending kids up chimneys.
You've got, you know, this club's going to go bust unless,
unless you work behind the bar or unless you, you.
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Yeah, yeah. Well, yeah.
The tea room. Yeah, Yeah.
It's fascinating when you can look back in it and and where we
are now and where it was for 20 years before that, you know,
really on its backside. So things developed, cricket was
good, we were moving on, progressing.
You know, Rennes was doing a sterling job getting the pros
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that we got. The amateurs, you know, we're
probably a couple of players short to really compete in the
top half, but the cricket looks after itself.
So then we move on to, you know,the reason why we want to do
this podcast. In February 20, 2007, Adele, you
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found you'd fallen pregnant and you were, you know, two years
after you've got married, everything's really looking
rosy. Are you happy just to talk
through that short period or do you want me to talk you through
it? Yeah, I'm happy to go through
it. Yeah.
So we were felt felt pregnant inFebruary 2007 and it seemed to
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be a very steady pregnancy. Yeah, you know, maybe we're
going really well and obviously we've been type 1 diabetic.
There were a chance of having a big baby.
But you know, they're quite, you're quite good at monitors,
weren't there? Really.
We were there quite often, lots of scams and lots of check UPS.
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And then there was a period where I kind of started in
labour but it was quite a bit too early.
So they stopped the they stoppedthe contraction.
So that will add the 10th of September wasn't it, Remember it
being Paul's birthday? So everything were OK, went back
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home. Then a few weeks later I went
for another check up and that's unfortunately where they didn't,
they couldn't find his heartbeat.
So obviously that were really tricky time.
They sent us up to hospital justto obviously go and have a
further test. Well me and my mum went up to
the hospital, I drove up to the hospital then Stanley was
working in Manchester at the time so he had to get his get
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his way to to the hospital. Charlie.
Came and got me. Yeah, Charlie was involved there
as well. Obviously we told our close
friends and that's where it was confirmed that it, unfortunately
it died. Very traumatic experience.
We didn't really know how to feel.
You still don't know how to feelnow really.
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It's a bit Norman. It's just the process that
you've got to kind of deal with.But there's no right way or no
wrong way of dealing with it. And then the, the hospital said,
oh, you can go home and come back in a couple of days and I
will, I don't want to go home. I want to have this baby.
And then we'll find out because we didn't know if it were your
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girl. We didn't know the sex or
anything. We didn't.
We didn't really have a proper name.
So anyway, after two days of labour Harry was born.
He was a big bruise, he was £9.10 and he was 56 centimetres
long. So he was a big baby and we,
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this is when we got the Sands Room, which is about my sponsor,
what I'm doing. I have actually got the T-shirt
on. I have been for everyone today.
I'm. Nearly there.
So the hospital then provided this family room, which was
funded through Sands, and this is where we could just spend a
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bit of time together, a bit of time with Harry, just to kind of
process everything really, wasn't it?
Yeah, so it was like a little self-contained flat in the
hospital with everything that you'd need to sort of live your
life normally, kick chain everything, all the sort of
facilities you need day-to-day. It allowed family to come in and
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visit us and spend time with us,all that kind of thing.
And we stayed there for a few days until then.
They come in, take the baby awayfor post mortem and things like
that. We did get a chaplain.
A chaplain came in and blessed him as well.
Not so, not necessarily. We are really religious, but we
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do. We always have.
I've been quite religious on allmy life studies.
Not really, but we just felt it was a nice right thing to do for
Hammy really. So we got interest and then
that's when they took him to Manchester Hospital to find out
what what had happened. Oh, crack it all.
It's, I mean, that's really brave.
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It's so good that you're puttingthis out there and we'll talk
about the charity in a minute, but this any, this conversation
could help one person, it could help 100 people.
And I think that's the the real reason for his doing things like
this, you know, So Harry, 3737 weeks you've, you know, you've,
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you've had that pregnancy. You know, he's obviously it's a
horrendous time for you. How old would you to have been
then? Sorry, I should know this 20. 7.
Yeah, OK. So, so you're both in your, your
mid 20s, your family are all around you.
But I mean, and I know Gavil were the same.
And I'll come to you in a minute, Gav, just to see what
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your memories are and what your thoughts are on this.
Because I think it's important we talk about it.
But I can't even start to begin to think what you must have been
feeling and what your mum and dad was and what Maureen was
feeling. You know, and you're, you're
grieving for this, you know, forthis little baby.
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You've never seen anything like this before or felt anything
like it. And the, I'm guessing your
family don't know what to do with you and you don't know what
to do with your family. Can you, can you remember this
gal when it was happening? Obviously you can remember it
And, and I could, but I, I didn't realise the detail that
that Adele's just gone into whatwhat's your thoughts and
comments around that? Yeah, you know, everyone,
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everyone so excited, you know, for for Matthew and Adele and
just so pleased, you know, because, you know, I mean, I
know I'm biassed, but we're all biassed.
But, you know, they meet great mates.
But you know, the great people, you know, and you know, the
great parents to Ruby and Isabel, but they were just so
exciting, so looking forward to it, you know, we knew that
they'd be great parents. So and to see your close friends
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sort of go through that and after, you know, you know, you
don't think about yourself, you know, you're thinking of you're
thinking of Matthew and Adele. But it was heartbreaking for
them, you know, but the way thatMatthew and Adele sort of
conducted the salary and, you know, with the, you know, both
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come from great families, that'simportant to say, supportive
families. And they have a very close
network of of friends. But the way they sort of got
through that, you know, you've got to have nothing but, you
know, the utmost respect for forthem both, you know, it's just
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such an incredibly difficult time.
Yeah, honey, you know, we could.Yeah.
I don't mind talking about things like this now.
I used to really struggle with it.
But the way you've been Adele gives you strength.
And, you know, and I know Matthew is there for you.
And then everyone's there for you both and.
And it. And it is like I said, I can't
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even begin to think. I've never had anything anywhere
near the tragic, you know, as tragic as that.
And at the time you mentioned about a self-contained flat or
apartment or unit and that it was through the charity Sounds
was it, which was at the hospital.
Yeah, you won't even know it with that.
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Just it was literally at the bottom of one of the stairwells
in the near the maternity. Yeah.
Edith Watson and, and we, we gottold about it and said, look,
you can, you can go and stay in there.
And we said, yeah, that's fine. Because look, in things like
maternity units, life goes on, doesn't it?
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In a way they've got to, they'vegot to move on.
They've got, they've got people coming in.
So we did that. And I think probably the worst
or the hardest thing to do, I suppose, after something like
that's happened, if you think about when you're having a child
and people who obviously you've had kids, jazz and whatever.
Yeah, everything at home is ready for that when that child
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arrives, isn't it? So when you go there and then
you you're going home without it, it's so to to sort of be
given that opportunity to spend that time there with family and
everything before you have to dothat.
It's huge for us. Massive.
I bet, I bet, you know, you mentioned another point there
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and I suppose that gives a little bit of time for your
family to be around you and for them to get the head round it.
And then how you're going to deal with the, you know, I
always look at short and medium and long term plans.
So the short term plans, yeah, you're right Stana.
You know, to get your house intosome sort of order for when you
both have to go back. It's kind of one day at a time,
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wasn't it really? I didn't want anything to happen
to his nursery. Just leave everything as it is
and I will deal with that when when we are ready.
We didn't want. But no, some families decide
it's the best thing to take everything away.
I. Didn't want that.
How we wanted to deal deal with it at that time.
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Yeah. How you want?
Absolutely, yeah, it's an individual choice and, and how
you feel about it. But to be making your choices
and and again, Adele, you've been very brave there saying one
day at a time. You know, I bet you're
struggling or at the time to to deal with 10 minutes at a time,
you know what is going to happenin the next, you know, short
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period of that. So it's sounding like just
because of that room and the charity is there.
And again, Adele, you've helped me out to your big style.
So Sans it was founded in 78 by in 1978 by a small group of
bereaved parents that wanted to bring something together.
You've clearly got a real soft, soft spot for them.
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It's 18 years ago. You're still raising money for
that charity. Have you kept in touch with the
charity since then and kept youreye out for fundraising
occasions? I do follow them on like
Facebook and social media and Instagram and things and they're
always, they're always doing fundraisers.
It is baby Awareness Week next probably.
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I think it's from the 9th of October till the week after and
it's always the week after Harry's birthday.
But last October or the October before, I did a walk, so I did
another charity thing where I did 100K.
We just walk in that time not running with Louis.
So Louis was fully involved in that as well.
There was the dog by the. Way.
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Louis the dog, if those people don't know.
Yeah. But I mean, it's just a great
charity that support families who go through this, you know,
tragic event. But there's a link between the
Sands at the hospital and Christchurch in Nelson.
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It's a local church that you cango to for a baby remembrance
every year. And that's where family, you do
see the same families every year.
And every now and again suddenlyyou do get new parents.
But it's just a time to come together and just, you know,
have a bit of reflection and allthat.
You've got support of somebody else.
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They know exactly what you've been through.
Yeah. And again, as we've, as we've
said, we've said earlier, you know, the reason for doing this
is just to try and help one person or or 1000 people, Adele,
a way of, you know, sponsoring you or contributing to the
charity. And we will do this again at the
end. Can you give us, is there a
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link? Is is there anything that you
could share with people, give them something on here or is or
is it better off if we do that on the the low race website and
the house cast? I don't know, I think I've put
AQR code on there. It's a little bit further down.
OK. I don't know if you can share
that. Yeah, I've got it.
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Yeah. And I think I'm about 420 lbs so
far, and I've got one more day, one more run to do.
So tell us what what? Tell us what you've been doing.
What what gave you the idea to do this all these kilometres?
Well, I don't know if you know. Well, I know you know about it.
Jazz and Gav obviously does. In March I ended up being in
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hospital with meningitis. I'm in hospital for 22 days and
it really knocked me for six. I weren't in a good place
really, was there. So it popped up in August time
on Facebook, run 50K in September and I thought I need
to get myself fit again. And it's a great, which is
obviously close to my heart. So a bit of a challenge for
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myself as well to keep myself to, you know, get fit again and
raise really important money forall the families.
Yeah, and that is 50K over the the month of September.
So tell us how that went at the start.
Difficult with getting the old blisters though.
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How have you managed it? The first one, I think, I think
the first one probably the best one.
What I did, I think we're just like, right, just go for it.
And I just I just ran. I think I already did like 3 1/2
K. But to say I've not done any
proper exercise since January. It looked pretty good really.
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And I did just under 7K on Saturday.
Obviously when you're running, you're reflecting constantly.
Yeah, yeah. And always, I always found this
time of year difficult anyway. If you to have his birthday on
the day and a few days afterwards and it's just you
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know it, it gives you that push to do it.
Yeah, yeah. I've got, I've got 2 kilometres,
I've done a three 3.5 tonight and I've just got 2 to do
tomorrow. So I will probably do a bit
longer just to and then. You've done your 50 kilometres.
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I'm assuming you've you've created a finishing pork Danny
and a fit for a Delta run through.
Yeah, yeah, of course. Bottle of champagne it'll.
Be on the back. Street brilliant.
We've done, we've done other things as well.
Obvious Gap was actually involved in one of them.
We did the Loch Ness Challenge, so that was the the sort of
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group of my friends that did that, which was basically a
duathlon, so cycling and running.
Gavin absolutely loved doing that.
Didn't you know? Training for it and Garden's
background? Loch Ness.
I think I just finished last week.
That way in 2008, Gav. This is no word of Elijah as
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well. So we turn up on the on the
first day to to do it. And there are loads of teams
there, celebrities and things like that.
So you've got Gavin Hastings that will be a player, Nel
Mcandrew. Is she called Nel Mcandrew, the
model from Bolton. And then you add Liz Mccolgan in
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a team. And the Brownlee brothers also
formed part of another team. So yeah.
You'll be surprised to know thatwe didn't win, but we give it
our best shot. We give it our best shot.
But yeah, and, and, and again, we did that.
We did, we did music and things like that.
Now back when we did that, therewas a very sort of local aspect
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to the the charity that unfortunately, because the way
that these charities evolve all the time doesn't sort of exist
anymore, unfortunately. But when we did that, we
literally, I think we raised about £1000 at the time.
And we did that specifically forhelping to refurb that room at
the hospital. So new equipment, new things
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like that to go in there. So yeah, so it's and then
obviously Adele's carried it on with various things
subsequently. Yeah, yeah.
Take care runs as well. Adele's done in between time,
so. Yeah, it is.
It's I mean it's outstanding thethe work that that you do and
you know, and, and also what Sam's do.
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So please people who are listening first and foremost is,
you know, if you're aware of of anyone going through difficult
time like this and that that remind them that Sam's is there.
And I'm, and I'm sure that you know that people listening will,
will recognise or know someone who's been through this.
So let's try and as raise as much as we can through the
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podcast and, and help Adele to get there.
See if we get up to to 700 or even 1000 lbs before she
finishes tomorrow on the last two kilometres.
Yes, I can also give you the link for the helpline if there
is anybody who is struggling at the minute.
Oh, brilliant. Yeah.
(35:08):
Yeah, if you can do and also please, you know, vast majority
of people on Facebook have a look at Adele's page.
She does put some material on there which will give you links
and give updates if you look back at the previous call.
So you can get from on there. But we'll put them on the on the
lower house website and on Twitter and everywhere else so
we can so, so moving from there,we go to 2009.
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Well, I don't know what when youfirst found out that you found
out you were pregnant, in fact. Do you know what we're doing?
It's just come to me now, jazz. We're actually at of Sam's
fundraiser, Shasta Shasta with the band You Remember.
Yeah, yeah. And I was actually pregnant with
the girls and I didn't know. I had a great night.
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We'd had a few sherbets that night, but I didn't know I was
pregnant. You didn't know you were
pregnant. So and then so you don't know
you're pregnant. Then you find out you're
pregnant and lo and behold, theytell you that it's twins.
I mean, how you know it? We scared.
We. Panicked.
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We didn't. We didn't really know how to
react, I laughed. I.
Was just like what, twins? Yeah, a bit a bit overwhelmed.
Really worked with a bit of a shock to system.
I'd I'd clocked it before early because the obviously used to go
into scams the first time. And then this I could see the
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screen so that I couldn't see the screen because they started
doing the cheques and everythingand I could see that there were
two two things there. So I'm looking thinking about
this more than one there. And then the the lady turned the
screen round and showed us it was twins.
Confirmed pretty much straight away that's the identical twins
as well. So.
There's obviously different types of twins, but identical
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means that the, the, the sort of, is it one eggs, the TD
membrane? Yeah, one eggs split in two.
And then they sort of share the same placenta, which is why they
share the same DNA and stuff like that, which is fascinating.
And we found out about that about two days before we went
all over to Portugal, didn't we literally ready, getting ready
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to go on already found out that we were sort of that it was
twins. We knew we were pregnant,
obviously, but found out it was twins.
And then the, the consultant whohad dealt with Harry's pregnancy
was the same consultant and she sort of gave us a bit of a dose
of reality straight away. So we went into a room and she
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essentially said this not not necessarily it's not good news
because obviously it is, but shewas this is going to be very
difficult with what's happened previously.
This has just meant things a lotharder.
So that was quite chasing to listen to her say that.
To be fair, what they did do then was say, right, you're
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going to be in every couple of weeks.
They more or less agreed a date within weeks as to when the the
twins have been born. So they, they, they've spoken to
different consultants and doctors and things like that and
said that there will be like a sort of viable time will be from
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34 weeks I think they said onwards.
So we is that we opted for a section for the girls because
Isabel was the wrong way around.So really.
May have come out, it's just thewrong way around.
Now she'll go mad at that. When you said that Stanley, it
does interest me that when you said the, you know, they sat you
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in a room and said whilst this is extremely happy, it is a
difficult period. Was that just because there were
twins or because of what had happened with Harry?
I think I think both because because the role is going to be
more sort of wary second time round for us anyway.
But then when it's when it's twins and the complications that
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couldn't come with that because there's all kinds of things with
twins where one would grow and sort of the stuff off off the
other child and things like that.
And there were twins when we were in hospital when our twins
were born that had been through that.
So you had one twin that was like 6 foot two and one that was
about four inch. So it was just like bizarre to
say, but that's all the stuff they warn you about when you
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when you start down the sort of twin routes.
Yeah, but they were sort of theywere very matter of fact with us
and that and explain this is howit's going to be and this is
what we're going to do. You'll be here every couple of
weeks scans checking the growth and everything went there and
then agreed to date and sort of another strange quirk of the day
(40:01):
that so they gave us a date to say.
Twins that were basically born on the 5th of February, that's
the anniversary of when my dad died when I was a baby as well.
So, so that's sort of like a daythat bittersweet in a way.
So you've got the fact that my dad passed away on that date in
1981 and then you've got the twins were born on that date in
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2009. So from, so from my mum's point
of view, it sort of gives it. Suppose it's turned a really
Saturday into a very happy day. So yeah.
Oh cracker, that is, I mean what?
So. So let me just get this right
you when your dad passed away, the girls were born on exactly
the the same date. Yeah, same date, yeah.
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I didn't know that that's that is, you know, turning, you know,
something, you know, as sad as that was into, you know, you
know, something that could be quite, you know, something for
your mum to to think of when shesees Isabella and Ruby is that
at that time, you know, we've talked about a real difficult
period for you with with Harry. You know that when you find out
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you're pregnant, Adele, and thenfor the next 5-6, seven months
we're constantly worrying and constantly stressed thinking
this is going to happen again to.
Be honest, Jess, you were a bit of a blur.
I think you, you put yourself inthis protective bubble, I think.
And I, I never really got out ofit after Harry.
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And then I was pregnant with girls and obviously were.
It just seemed to fly by really,didn't it?
It seemed to be a really quick pregnancy, like you say.
I went to hospital every every other week, really getting
checked, you know, And yeah, just obviously worry.
Just want to get in here, really.
As soon as they're allowed to beborn, let's have them on that
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day and that's what we went for.Absolutely, yeah.
Yeah, and it went, it went all smooth when they were born, they
went to special care for, well, Ruby were there for 9 days and
Isabel were there for a couple of days.
So they were tricky when they were born.
We were breastfeeding, having togo down to visit them.
But you know, look at them now. They, they, you know, they
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really tall, strong, healthy girls, aren't they?
Yeah, yeah. Well, yeah, we're going to go on
So. So for the listeners, Isabella
and Ruby, you know, 16 years old, they've come.
And it's again, another fantastic example of every time
a summer finishes, we go througha winter.
You go back in the spring, you see your two girls there.
They're they're at most matches walking around, seem to be
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getting taller and taller, you know, really lovely, lovely
children and growing up into fantastic adults.
I can see that that Stanley's getting them into a sort of a
special place now with work. When it was the busiest bar ever
and when we won the league. There's 2 girls behind the bar.
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We've not done it before and it's Isabella Ruby.
Ruby had actually done a couple of Wednesday nights.
Right. And so she'd been doing a couple
of shifts there, just getting used to the everything, and then
she was really thrown in the deep end on that day because it
was really busy. It was, but who cares?
They did a great job, they helped the club out again, just
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like, you know, the last two or three generations of your
family. So.
So Gav, we've got the 2, the obviously twins, these two
little girls, your your, your best mate, your mucker.
You've got to be wanting, you know, you'll be concerned just
like everyone else. All the other Rugrats would have
been. These two girls are born nice
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and healthy. I've did a pint get taken to
celebrate the birth of them. Well, that's about one or two,
Jess, You know, just to just to keep up traditions.
You know, it's got to be done. But yeah, everyone was just so
pleased. Yeah.
Great news. And because everyone knew they'd
be great at it, you know, and having gone what they've, you
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know, gone through what they've gone through, it was just really
nice, you know, and it were, it were really good news.
And it was nice to see nice people, you know, have something
good happened to them, really, you know?
Yeah. And then it continues with, you
know, with a pair of them. You know, they're growing up
into fantastic human beings. So, you know, if we can, we'll,
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I will push everything for the, the Sans charity.
Please, anyone who's listening to this, if it's touched you in
any way or how brave Adele's been and, and Matthew, with all
the support that that's been there for them and their
families, let's try and, you know, whether it's a lower house
push or a house cast push, but try and, you know, push this
Sans charity and, and let's support it the best way that we
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can. I'm going to move away from from
this now. And I just want any other
comments, Adele, before I've just read out something that you
sent me. Have you anything else to add?
No, not really no. Just really appreciated if you
could donate every sponsor. If it's just a fibre, you know
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it's not. It's not even a part nowadays.
Is it a fibre so that you know every little bit will help all
the grieving parents? So it'd be really appreciated if
you could help us out. Yeah, I think one thing that's
probably right to say, and it's probably long overdue in a way,
but the support that we got fromeveryone at the time and the
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sport from the Cricket Club and things like that.
I sort of vividly remember doingall the the Funeral arrangements
and the guys that all the Sonoran said what basically they
have like a really fancy sort ofFord Focus.
We'll be using that car on the day this kind of thing.
You like that, That's fine. Yeah, that's because that's what
we do with with babies. And then Steven Alderson there
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got a feel for there was going to be quite a lot of people
present and, and basically rang on the morning and said, look,
so just so you're not alarmed, we are going to turn up with the
full sort of the full car and everything all set out because
you know, there's going to be quite a lot of people there.
And we turned up at the the Chapel at the top of the
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cemetery there and it was absolutely jammers.
So I'd say that support means anawful lot to to wasn't did then,
and still does today. Yeah, yeah, I bet it.
At that time, you know, you two young, you know, young adults,
you, you're in a, you know, you're in a nightmare.
You're in a real thunderstorm. And at the time, you probably
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can't appreciate it as much, butit's good.
We can talk about it now and youcan remember that and remember
the those sorts of times and thesupport you can give to other
people. Gav, is there anything from
yourself before I, you know, close it up?
No, just to, just to say to Adele there when you said it's
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not even the price of a band, you looked at Matthew.
He won't know because it very rarely goes to the bar.
But no, other than that, just have nothing.
I think it's because he keeps sending me, doesn't he?
And as well, I'm going to dob him in here.
Adele as well. You probably, you probably are
aware, but when, when you weren't pregnant with girls and
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we'd all wait for a band, he'd always throw me on the bus.
They'd go right, Adele's on the way.
Now you got bar, now you got bar.
And she won't have a go at you, but she'll go mad at me.
So every time you turned up and we've gone for a pack to pick
him up because you're his taxi driver.
And he'd go, oh, Gav's just been.
Gav's just been. Bar yeah, I've got.
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I've got. I've carried that for long
enough standing. The other big beneficiary of
that was Razzers on Atkinson Rd stopping by there for a mixed
kebab on the way through because.
The DAF thing is, Gav, Adele would have known all along what
we're going. Don't worry about that.
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She knew what we're going on. So just to finish you up once
again, please help and support what you can.
Harry would have been 18 on Sunday.
Adele's put some, you know, somegreat words in helping me to
understand what happened and, and, and through sounds and, and
Adele's mentioned that always onthe run up to, to Harry's
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birthday, they would always havea little bit of a celebration
and a little bit of a toast. And, and Adele's dad would be
front and centre of that, you know, and unfortunately he
passed away last March. So that is a difficult period
now when it's probably bringing back, you know, what, what you
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went through with Harry. And you know, your dad was, you
know, relatively young with that.
So you're going to have a familymeal just to toast your dad and
Harry as, as you know, as it comes up to his 18th birthday.
So I really mean it to Dale. You've been so brave.
And thanks very much for puttingcoming out and telling us what
you've told us. And like I said, if it helps one
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person, then you know, then it'swork to treat.
So thanks very much, Adele. Thanks very much.
Matthew, Gav, I really appreciate you coming on.
I think it's been the best way of doing this.
We've we were chatting about whether Duke should come on,
whether Joe Martin, whether Gary, but they never easy wants
to do like this. But I can assure you, Adele and
Matthew, people will really appreciate it.
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They'll really thank you for fordoing what you've done.
So thanks very much and. Thank you.
To the to the older listeners, please continue to like and
subscribe to the to the House cast and and support sounds
wherever you can. So thanks very much everyone for
listening. Gordon Gordon, send more house
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to save the house.
Gordon, Gordon, send more house to.
Save the House. Welcome to the House.
Cast everybody. Special edition tonight, looking
forward to having to a chat withtwo absolute, absolute legends
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of the club and Gav's on as well.
So Gav, let's have a little catch your power you when
cricket season finishes. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Well, good. Thank you, Jess.
Spend my time. Unfortunately we Matthew, but
not yet just going on. We're watching Super Clarence.
(01:02):
Yeah. Do you manage it?
I mean, it's different what's you know, because we don't play
anymore. But I used to get quite
depressed through the end of September and October and then
because of no cricket and not being down the club, but I did.
Were you? Still glad to watch Super
Clarkson, you know, still still still great and what have you
(01:25):
and still going into Sunday socials when I can.
So I still see, you know, everybody from the Cricket Club.
But you know, some is obviously the best time of the year.
I think we'd all agree with that.
But but no, I don't mind a couple of pounds after after
telephone that covert we stand in Paul and Aggers Dave Bridal.
Now that's a good crack. Yeah, yeah, it's it's and it
(01:48):
keeps you, keeps you active, done it and gets you out having
that that socials well. Good end to the season.
I thought Gav the obviously we won it two games to go, I think
it was and then continue with that form.
I mean, we're I'm thinking of another podcast around the
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quality of the side and, you know, and the of comparing it
with sides gone by. I know it's difficult to do
that, but can you think of a better side in the Language
League and. No, absolutely not.
In 20 years. What?
Can't speak, can't lie. And you look how you look at the
league table and you look at thethe margin of victory.
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We've not scraped by even by a couple of bonus points or the
odd win. We've absolutely steamrolled
with the league. And I'm not a big stats person,
but I can't remember one team absolutely dominating, you know,
I mean, it's borderline ridiculous, you know, and you
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know, Ben and the Ben and the team you know, should should be
ever surprised, you know, And I know that they are, but no,
absolutely dominated it. You know, you know.
From pretty much halfway throughthe season and they just, they
just Marvel asked everybody really to a degree.
Yeah, and it was, you know, it was great cricket to watch.
I suppose we we've already started doing this podcast that
(03:16):
we're going to plan to do at a different time, but we'll so
we'll not go on much more. But I really enjoyed how good
the cricket was to watch. You know, going you look back at
Haslington teams in the 90s and before that.
You know the backup teams, you know.
Yeah, yeah, you. Know they regret that, weren't
they? But you know, you look at the
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Lower Ice team, there's so many,you know, doesn't matter whether
we're batting a bowl and if we're batting there's, you know,
there's, there's 11 lads. You can, you can have a day.
You know, when we're bowling, you know, the conditions don't
really matter. We've got every base covered.
Yeah, it is. It's it has, it's been a
fantastic season, but let's let's move on.
Gav, we've got, like I said, a special edition this evening.
(04:00):
It's what, you know, it's once again, and I don't make any
apologies for this, that we're trying to promote some charities
and fundraising, which are all relatively local but are are
being carried out by good local people from the Cricket Club.
So we've got Matthew and, and Adele Stansfield on.
(04:21):
We're going to talk through, youknow, a bit of fun about the
cricket and then we're going to go on to a particular charity
that's very close to to Matthew and and Adele and just push it
and promote it and talk about it.
So first of all, Matt Stanley, welcome on.
How are you doing? Very good.
(04:42):
Thank you. Good evening, Jess.
Good evening, Gavin. You'll be over the moon after
that season, I bet, Stanley, you've put so much work in and
you and the, you know, the othermembers of the board and the
committees that are around there.
You you've no complaints over that season, I guess other than
Douglas Lewis. Yeah, no, fantastic.
(05:05):
It, it makes it all worthwhile with this team, what they did,
the second team, some of the cricket from the third and
fourth teams as well, especiallythat young fourth team, I think
is was exceptional. And then I think if you look
further down on that, lots of the kids teams have have been
very successful and there's someexciting prospects coming
through. And just to pick up, you were
(05:26):
talking then and obviously you're going to do this on
another night, but you said about the way that the team
dominated the other thing. I thought that the team we had
in 2014 with Corbis and Matt Walker and all those in was, was
exceptional. But I'd say that that from a
collective point of view and a league point of view, the there
was a few more gimmes that year in the league.
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Weak teams, poor teams. With these two divisions set up
now there are no gimmes in everygame.
You've got to be on it or you, you come up short.
It is, it's strong. It's you know, you might look
at, you know, it's a good point that we call this, you know,
what an outstanding cricket treewas.
And that's not the detriment of any of the pros in the league at
the moment. But there were some decent pros
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around that time. But the amateurs, I don't think
were as strong then in all the league as they are in the league
at the moment. It is, it's it'd be good to
dissect it. So I will, I think we can do
that over the winter. But I think Stanley, I just want
to to move on to your missus because Adele, you know, I've
known her for donkey. She is obviously coming down the
(06:32):
club with you, the start of the Rugrats with with you Matthew
and Gavin Muss and Charlie and Dutch and Matt Marquess and the
other, you know, the other lads that came through the junior
section. And Adele's been there really
from that period. Always good fun, always a real
(06:52):
strong character, you know, veryloving.
And you know, we'll chat and talk and even now walk around
the ground and and I've got catch up with anyone of any age.
So Adele, I really appreciate you coming on.
Thanks very much. How are you doing?
I'm. All right.
Thank you. How are you?
Yeah. Oh, good.
Thanks. Yeah, doing a few bits and bats
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with the grandkids and what haveyou.
But no, it's all, it's all fantastic.
You were, you were down even more this year, I think Adele
was. You were down almost every game
and I'm wondering, I mean the last.
Couple years I've been doing my master's degree so I've had to
spend a bit more time obviously studying, but I finished that
last year so I've had more time to be at the club this year.
(07:35):
Yeah, and it is great. You know, and this is going to
sound really old, but I remembermy dad saying it and other
people of the past, the the cricket club's almost like you
can see, you can see the movement of time.
You know, you look at, you know,my kids, you look at your two
girls and you look how people are getting older.
(07:55):
You know, it is a great and it'snot just Loris, obviously it's
everywhere. So, you know, it's so good that
you and that Stella corner seemsto be growing with all you wags.
I don't know what's going on down there.
You're pushing us out. Well, we do try as best, you
know, but there's more per second corner than Stella.
Yeah, there, I bet you I bet there's some bottles that have
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gone through down there. Just a few on a Saturday
afternoon. I know, I bet, I bet.
So it's, I think, you know, it is clearly a serious topic we're
going to talk about. We're going to talk about it as
better we can as to the, the different stages throughout your
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lives you've come through and how you came across and managed
through those periods and where you are now with, with
fundraising. So you've got, we've obviously
had a little bit of liaison before we, we got here and I
didn't realise so, so you met Matthew in 97.
You can see from my research. Just tell us about that, What
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happened there? Well, we're, we're both at
college and we both had an evening job at George Foster's
up on Farrington Road, just off wasn't there Rd in place And
that's where we met. Oh.
Fantastic. In March and then that went out
with him in July. Yeah, fantastic.
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And, and you've always been, youknow, coming down the club, the
pair of you, you know, a great couple.
And you know, at that time, I think it's fair to say, Gav, you
and the likes of Charlie and Matt Marquis and we could, I
think there's another 5 or 6 of your Rugrats had a really good
camaraderie between you all, even at that young age, Gav.
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I mean, cash yourself back to 97.
You know, you're getting out there boozing.
You had a great life then and got a good time.
It's not that you don't know, but.
Yeah, absolutely. Yeah.
You know, we all knocked around,we all knocked around together
and we all played cricket in every weekend.
We were, you know, up to all good playing silly boogers.
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But you know, I remember when Stanley said he had a girl and I
thought it was going to be his carer, something like that.
I. Think I'm out of there now?
Well, yeah, absolutely. Yeah.
In that way you. Know we're all expecting him to
have a carer or something like that, but but no, all joking
aside, it just, you know, we just used to have her out laugh,
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didn't we? The summer I love and all that,
when you know, it was just a great crack and everyone were
involved and cricket almost got it where really.
Yeah, and I suppose that's wherethe central part of it was, you
know, you were all, you know, Burnley football fans, but as
well as that you were playing cricket and practising and
training and everything. So to get down at the weekends
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in the summer, you know, it was good sports.
Your memories marked going back to 97 when you first met and
then moving on to getting engaged and getting getting your
first house in 2002. Yeah, and I'll always tell you
that I remember key dates in life around sporting occasions,
but I'm not there. I'll say she'll mention
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something. I'll say, Oh yeah, Burnley won
two mil at call out day. After that she finds it a bit
bit bizarre that I remember things based on that.
But yeah, that that summer, obviously it was the Coriolan
years from, from a Cricket Club point of view as well.
But it wasn't just us. There was Charlie and Louise got
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together that summer and and we literally spent a full summer
living in each other's pockets. If, if one's set of parents were
on holiday, the others were on that kind of thing.
So we literally surfaced off and, and slept in each other's
houses for, for a full summer. The most of it, Mana Barn on a
Wednesday, Panama's on a Thursday, Panama's on a Friday.
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VIP was all you can drink for £7or something like that.
So yeah, there was a great, great times, great times.
It isn't, you know, like you know, like we know I'm quite a
bit older than you guys, but it was so much fun watching you and
seeing you all develop as peopleand, and, and in the cricket
world as well. So things move on.
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As I said, you get your house, you get engaged in 2002 and then
you get married in Cyprus with some, you know, some friends and
family there in 2568. So over just over 20 years ago.
Congratulations 20 year anniversary.
On the sporting occasions, Jess here.
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He is again. We got engaged the day after
David Beckham's penalty winner against Argentina all.
Right. Good, good lad.
So I think, I think I was still buoyed by by that in the 2002
World Cup. So yeah, and then the night
before we got married, it was the Liverpool AC Mohan, great
comeback in Istanbul, you know, the one where there were three
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no down and 333. And then did they win on
penalties in the end? That wasn't before we got
married. But yeah, I don't she's wrong.
I don't remember things about great sporting occasions at all.
No, I think what's wrong with that?
It's it's being able to rememberstuff like that and link it
together. It's no, it's good on you.
It's good on you. That.
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So your first house you bought in 2002, was that the one on
Roselle Road or did you have onebefore that?
Yeah. Yeah.
So that was obviously opposite my brother's Nicky's house.
So it was almost, we got to, youknow, to, to bump into each
other away from cricket as well,whether it were a BBQ Nikki's
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or, or bump, you know, meeting up with you or, or, or going to
the pub. So then you know, it's
constantly has all been togetheras a, you know, as a community
club, as a Cricket Club and, and, and all your friends and
everything. And then you're married in 2005.
Yeah, Nikki's, Nikki's barbecues.
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Yeah. Throwing sausages into the old
box on and stuff like that. Yeah, slipping on the deck in.
Yeah, I remember that one burning the rice.
Absolutely chaos. The old thing to me didn't there
go on, Gav. Then gin and tonics was.
I think I can still taste that last gin and tonic I had bloody
strongly. I'll bet you want Yeah.
Cheers, isn't it? I think I was chasing Corby
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around where you pretend sword. I can't remember that bit.
Nikki was in charge of cooking and it rather than test it, he
literally he'd sort of bite intoit.
No, it's not cooked. And then was it over the wall,
into the whole box or money? Yeah, and wonder why I was sick
the following day. It is funny you say that, Adele,
because we had a lot of the memories of you, you know, you
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younger ones, even whether you were 16 or 26, I don't know,
seem to be around barbecues. You know, we had that, Well,
we'll see if I can say one of them, but we had that massive
BBQ down at the club. Ryan was there, Ryan Harrison,
we had that. We got the, it wasn't the fire
brigade. It was somebody who pretended
there was a fire brigade and filled up the swim, the outdoor
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swimming pool. And Nikki completely tore his
hamstring sliding down that thatslippery slope that dealt
constantly was sliding down withfairy liquid on.
And then there was the other oneat Matt's, weren't there?
It, were it? Were mint sauce.
It were Adam's from Adam's kit bag.
Yeah, it was, yeah. Yeah, that's right.
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Yeah. And then the other one where the
the sausage kept appear in from different places.
So we were that was that was at Matt's.
But no really good memories and it's good.
I think it's quite you know, theclubs will have this.
I understand that, but I think it's lovely to see and that, you
know, there's still all those people still going down, you
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know, 30 years later if your era, you know, long may continue
so you've. We were the club, weren't we?
It's a lot different now, Yeah, yeah.
But that that sort of group of friends and, and everything
literally were the club in one way or another, because it was a
time when we work in the bar andwe're doing all those kind of
things. Any social event was was
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literally yours, wasn't it? So it's, it's a completely
different animal these days. But yeah.
Basically, yeah, yeah, basicallyit plays and their families, you
know, their wives and kids, That's that's, you know, that's
fundamental. What it were, weren't it?
Yeah, I'm just, I'm just trying to throw myself back to it.
And when, so why? Why did you lot as a really
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young group have to help out to keep the club going?
And but I suppose that was the Lofty's era, which were a really
good side and socially good set of people.
But they really moved on, didn'tthey?
I suppose. And when you look at that
bigger, the people who wouldn't have been in the 70s, there was
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a big gap. You know, there was me, Blaze
and then not many others in thatdecade after it.
And then you lock him probably adecade and 1/2 after, and I
suppose you were, you're almost like sending kids up chimneys.
You've got, you know, this club's going to go bust unless,
unless you work behind the bar or unless you, you.
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Yeah, yeah. Well, yeah.
The tea room. Yeah, Yeah.
It's fascinating when you can look back in it and and where we
are now and where it was for 20 years before that, you know,
really on its backside. So things developed, cricket was
good, we were moving on, progressing.
You know, Rennes was doing a sterling job getting the pros
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that we got. The amateurs, you know, we're
probably a couple of players short to really compete in the
top half, but the cricket looks after itself.
So then we move on to, you know,the reason why we want to do
this podcast. In February 20, 2007, Adele, you
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found you'd fallen pregnant and you were, you know, two years
after you've got married, everything's really looking
rosy. Are you happy just to talk
through that short period or do you want me to talk you through
it? Yeah, I'm happy to go through
it. Yeah.
So we were felt felt pregnant inFebruary 2007 and it seemed to
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be a very steady pregnancy. Yeah, you know, maybe we're
going really well and obviously we've been type 1 diabetic.
There were a chance of having a big baby.
But you know, they're quite, you're quite good at monitors,
weren't there? Really.
We were there quite often, lots of scams and lots of check UPS.
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And then there was a period where I kind of started in
labour but it was quite a bit too early.
So they stopped the they stoppedthe contraction.
So that will add the 10th of September wasn't it, Remember it
being Paul's birthday? So everything were OK, went back
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home. Then a few weeks later I went
for another check up and that's unfortunately where they didn't,
they couldn't find his heartbeat.
So obviously that were really tricky time.
They sent us up to hospital justto obviously go and have a
further test. Well me and my mum went up to
the hospital, I drove up to the hospital then Stanley was
working in Manchester at the time so he had to get his get
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his way to to the hospital. Charlie.
Came and got me. Yeah, Charlie was involved there
as well. Obviously we told our close
friends and that's where it was confirmed that it, unfortunately
it died. Very traumatic experience.
We didn't really know how to feel.
You still don't know how to feelnow really.
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It's a bit Norman. It's just the process that
you've got to kind of deal with.But there's no right way or no
wrong way of dealing with it. And then the, the hospital said,
oh, you can go home and come back in a couple of days and I
will, I don't want to go home. I want to have this baby.
And then we'll find out because we didn't know if it were your
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girl. We didn't know the sex or
anything. We didn't.
We didn't really have a proper name.
So anyway, after two days of labour Harry was born.
He was a big bruise, he was £9.10 and he was 56 centimetres
long. So he was a big baby and we,
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this is when we got the Sands Room, which is about my sponsor,
what I'm doing. I have actually got the T-shirt
on. I have been for everyone today.
I'm. Nearly there.
So the hospital then provided this family room, which was
funded through Sands, and this is where we could just spend a
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bit of time together, a bit of time with Harry, just to kind of
process everything really, wasn't it?
Yeah, so it was like a little self-contained flat in the
hospital with everything that you'd need to sort of live your
life normally, kick chain everything, all the sort of
facilities you need day-to-day. It allowed family to come in and
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visit us and spend time with us,all that kind of thing.
And we stayed there for a few days until then.
They come in, take the baby awayfor post mortem and things like
that. We did get a chaplain.
A chaplain came in and blessed him as well.
Not so, not necessarily. We are really religious, but we
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do. We always have.
I've been quite religious on allmy life studies.
Not really, but we just felt it was a nice right thing to do for
Hammy really. So we got interest and then
that's when they took him to Manchester Hospital to find out
what what had happened. Oh, crack it all.
It's, I mean, that's really brave.
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It's so good that you're puttingthis out there and we'll talk
about the charity in a minute, but this any, this conversation
could help one person, it could help 100 people.
And I think that's the the real reason for his doing things like
this, you know, So Harry, 3737 weeks you've, you know, you've,
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you've had that pregnancy. You know, he's obviously it's a
horrendous time for you. How old would you to have been
then? Sorry, I should know this 20. 7.
Yeah, OK. So, so you're both in your, your
mid 20s, your family are all around you.
But I mean, and I know Gavil were the same.
And I'll come to you in a minute, Gav, just to see what
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your memories are and what your thoughts are on this.
Because I think it's important we talk about it.
But I can't even start to begin to think what you must have been
feeling and what your mum and dad was and what Maureen was
feeling. You know, and you're, you're
grieving for this, you know, forthis little baby.
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You've never seen anything like this before or felt anything
like it. And the, I'm guessing your
family don't know what to do with you and you don't know what
to do with your family. Can you, can you remember this
gal when it was happening? Obviously you can remember it
And, and I could, but I, I didn't realise the detail that
that Adele's just gone into whatwhat's your thoughts and
comments around that? Yeah, you know, everyone,
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everyone so excited, you know, for for Matthew and Adele and
just so pleased, you know, because, you know, I mean, I
know I'm biassed, but we're all biassed.
But, you know, they meet great mates.
But you know, the great people, you know, and you know, the
great parents to Ruby and Isabel, but they were just so
exciting, so looking forward to it, you know, we knew that
they'd be great parents. So and to see your close friends
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sort of go through that and after, you know, you know, you
don't think about yourself, you know, you're thinking of you're
thinking of Matthew and Adele. But it was heartbreaking for
them, you know, but the way thatMatthew and Adele sort of
conducted the salary and, you know, with the, you know, both
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come from great families, that'simportant to say, supportive
families. And they have a very close
network of of friends. But the way they sort of got
through that, you know, you've got to have nothing but, you
know, the utmost respect for forthem both, you know, it's just
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such an incredibly difficult time.
Yeah, honey, you know, we could.Yeah.
I don't mind talking about things like this now.
I used to really struggle with it.
But the way you've been Adele gives you strength.
And, you know, and I know Matthew is there for you.
And then everyone's there for you both and.
And it. And it is like I said, I can't
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even begin to think. I've never had anything anywhere
near the tragic, you know, as tragic as that.
And at the time you mentioned about a self-contained flat or
apartment or unit and that it was through the charity Sounds
was it, which was at the hospital.
Yeah, you won't even know it with that.
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Just it was literally at the bottom of one of the stairwells
in the near the maternity. Yeah.
Edith Watson and, and we, we gottold about it and said, look,
you can, you can go and stay in there.
And we said, yeah, that's fine. Because look, in things like
maternity units, life goes on, doesn't it?
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In a way they've got to, they'vegot to move on.
They've got, they've got people coming in.
So we did that. And I think probably the worst
or the hardest thing to do, I suppose, after something like
that's happened, if you think about when you're having a child
and people who obviously you've had kids, jazz and whatever.
Yeah, everything at home is ready for that when that child
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arrives, isn't it? So when you go there and then
you you're going home without it, it's so to to sort of be
given that opportunity to spend that time there with family and
everything before you have to dothat.
It's huge for us. Massive.
I bet, I bet, you know, you mentioned another point there
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and I suppose that gives a little bit of time for your
family to be around you and for them to get the head round it.
And then how you're going to deal with the, you know, I
always look at short and medium and long term plans.
So the short term plans, yeah, you're right Stana.
You know, to get your house intosome sort of order for when you
both have to go back. It's kind of one day at a time,
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wasn't it really? I didn't want anything to happen
to his nursery. Just leave everything as it is
and I will deal with that when when we are ready.
We didn't want. But no, some families decide
it's the best thing to take everything away.
I. Didn't want that.
How we wanted to deal deal with it at that time.
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Yeah. How you want?
Absolutely, yeah, it's an individual choice and, and how
you feel about it. But to be making your choices
and and again, Adele, you've been very brave there saying one
day at a time. You know, I bet you're
struggling or at the time to to deal with 10 minutes at a time,
you know what is going to happenin the next, you know, short
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period of that. So it's sounding like just
because of that room and the charity is there.
And again, Adele, you've helped me out to your big style.
So Sans it was founded in 78 by in 1978 by a small group of
bereaved parents that wanted to bring something together.
You've clearly got a real soft, soft spot for them.
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It's 18 years ago. You're still raising money for
that charity. Have you kept in touch with the
charity since then and kept youreye out for fundraising
occasions? I do follow them on like
Facebook and social media and Instagram and things and they're
always, they're always doing fundraisers.
It is baby Awareness Week next probably.
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I think it's from the 9th of October till the week after and
it's always the week after Harry's birthday.
But last October or the October before, I did a walk, so I did
another charity thing where I did 100K.
We just walk in that time not running with Louis.
So Louis was fully involved in that as well.
There was the dog by the. Way.
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Louis the dog, if those people don't know.
Yeah. But I mean, it's just a great
charity that support families who go through this, you know,
tragic event. But there's a link between the
Sands at the hospital and Christchurch in Nelson.
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It's a local church that you cango to for a baby remembrance
every year. And that's where family, you do
see the same families every year.
And every now and again suddenlyyou do get new parents.
But it's just a time to come together and just, you know,
have a bit of reflection and allthat.
You've got support of somebody else.
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They know exactly what you've been through.
Yeah. And again, as we've, as we've
said, we've said earlier, you know, the reason for doing this
is just to try and help one person or or 1000 people, Adele,
a way of, you know, sponsoring you or contributing to the
charity. And we will do this again at the
end. Can you give us, is there a
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link? Is is there anything that you
could share with people, give them something on here or is or
is it better off if we do that on the the low race website and
the house cast? I don't know, I think I've put
AQR code on there. It's a little bit further down.
OK. I don't know if you can share
that. Yeah, I've got it.
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Yeah. And I think I'm about 420 lbs so
far, and I've got one more day, one more run to do.
So tell us what what? Tell us what you've been doing.
What what gave you the idea to do this all these kilometres?
Well, I don't know if you know. Well, I know you know about it.
Jazz and Gav obviously does. In March I ended up being in
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hospital with meningitis. I'm in hospital for 22 days and
it really knocked me for six. I weren't in a good place
really, was there. So it popped up in August time
on Facebook, run 50K in September and I thought I need
to get myself fit again. And it's a great, which is
obviously close to my heart. So a bit of a challenge for
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myself as well to keep myself to, you know, get fit again and
raise really important money forall the families.
Yeah, and that is 50K over the the month of September.
So tell us how that went at the start.
Difficult with getting the old blisters though.
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How have you managed it? The first one, I think, I think
the first one probably the best one.
What I did, I think we're just like, right, just go for it.
And I just I just ran. I think I already did like 3 1/2
K. But to say I've not done any
proper exercise since January. It looked pretty good really.
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And I did just under 7K on Saturday.
Obviously when you're running, you're reflecting constantly.
Yeah, yeah. And always, I always found this
time of year difficult anyway. If you to have his birthday on
the day and a few days afterwards and it's just you
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know it, it gives you that push to do it.
Yeah, yeah. I've got, I've got 2 kilometres,
I've done a three 3.5 tonight and I've just got 2 to do
tomorrow. So I will probably do a bit
longer just to and then. You've done your 50 kilometres.
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I'm assuming you've you've created a finishing pork Danny
and a fit for a Delta run through.
Yeah, yeah, of course. Bottle of champagne it'll.
Be on the back. Street brilliant.
We've done, we've done other things as well.
Obvious Gap was actually involved in one of them.
We did the Loch Ness Challenge, so that was the the sort of
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group of my friends that did that, which was basically a
duathlon, so cycling and running.
Gavin absolutely loved doing that.
Didn't you know? Training for it and Garden's
background? Loch Ness.
I think I just finished last week.
That way in 2008, Gav. This is no word of Elijah as
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well. So we turn up on the on the
first day to to do it. And there are loads of teams
there, celebrities and things like that.
So you've got Gavin Hastings that will be a player, Nel
Mcandrew. Is she called Nel Mcandrew, the
model from Bolton. And then you add Liz Mccolgan in
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a team. And the Brownlee brothers also
formed part of another team. So yeah.
You'll be surprised to know thatwe didn't win, but we give it
our best shot. We give it our best shot.
But yeah, and, and, and again, we did that.
We did, we did music and things like that.
Now back when we did that, therewas a very sort of local aspect
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to the the charity that unfortunately, because the way
that these charities evolve all the time doesn't sort of exist
anymore, unfortunately. But when we did that, we
literally, I think we raised about £1000 at the time.
And we did that specifically forhelping to refurb that room at
the hospital. So new equipment, new things
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like that to go in there. So yeah, so it's and then
obviously Adele's carried it on with various things
subsequently. Yeah, yeah.
Take care runs as well. Adele's done in between time,
so. Yeah, it is.
It's I mean it's outstanding thethe work that that you do and
you know, and, and also what Sam's do.
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So please people who are listening first and foremost is,
you know, if you're aware of of anyone going through difficult
time like this and that that remind them that Sam's is there.
And I'm, and I'm sure that you know that people listening will,
will recognise or know someone who's been through this.
So let's try and as raise as much as we can through the
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podcast and, and help Adele to get there.
See if we get up to to 700 or even 1000 lbs before she
finishes tomorrow on the last two kilometres.
Yes, I can also give you the link for the helpline if there
is anybody who is struggling at the minute.
Oh, brilliant. Yeah.
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Yeah, if you can do and also please, you know, vast majority
of people on Facebook have a look at Adele's page.
She does put some material on there which will give you links
and give updates if you look back at the previous call.
So you can get from on there. But we'll put them on the on the
lower house website and on Twitter and everywhere else so
we can so, so moving from there,we go to 2009.
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Well, I don't know what when youfirst found out that you found
out you were pregnant, in fact. Do you know what we're doing?
It's just come to me now, jazz. We're actually at of Sam's
fundraiser, Shasta Shasta with the band You Remember.
Yeah, yeah. And I was actually pregnant with
the girls and I didn't know. I had a great night.
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We'd had a few sherbets that night, but I didn't know I was
pregnant. You didn't know you were
pregnant. So and then so you don't know
you're pregnant. Then you find out you're
pregnant and lo and behold, theytell you that it's twins.
I mean, how you know it? We scared.
We. Panicked.
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We didn't. We didn't really know how to
react, I laughed. I.
Was just like what, twins? Yeah, a bit a bit overwhelmed.
Really worked with a bit of a shock to system.
I'd I'd clocked it before early because the obviously used to go
into scams the first time. And then this I could see the
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screen so that I couldn't see the screen because they started
doing the cheques and everythingand I could see that there were
two two things there. So I'm looking thinking about
this more than one there. And then the the lady turned the
screen round and showed us it was twins.
Confirmed pretty much straight away that's the identical twins
as well. So.
There's obviously different types of twins, but identical
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means that the, the, the sort of, is it one eggs, the TD
membrane? Yeah, one eggs split in two.
And then they sort of share the same placenta, which is why they
share the same DNA and stuff like that, which is fascinating.
And we found out about that about two days before we went
all over to Portugal, didn't we literally ready, getting ready
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to go on already found out that we were sort of that it was
twins. We knew we were pregnant,
obviously, but found out it was twins.
And then the, the consultant whohad dealt with Harry's pregnancy
was the same consultant and she sort of gave us a bit of a dose
of reality straight away. So we went into a room and she
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essentially said this not not necessarily it's not good news
because obviously it is, but shewas this is going to be very
difficult with what's happened previously.
This has just meant things a lotharder.
So that was quite chasing to listen to her say that.
To be fair, what they did do then was say, right, you're
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going to be in every couple of weeks.
They more or less agreed a date within weeks as to when the the
twins have been born. So they, they, they've spoken to
different consultants and doctors and things like that and
said that there will be like a sort of viable time will be from
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34 weeks I think they said onwards.
So we is that we opted for a section for the girls because
Isabel was the wrong way around.So really.
May have come out, it's just thewrong way around.
Now she'll go mad at that. When you said that Stanley, it
does interest me that when you said the, you know, they sat you
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in a room and said whilst this is extremely happy, it is a
difficult period. Was that just because there were
twins or because of what had happened with Harry?
I think I think both because because the role is going to be
more sort of wary second time round for us anyway.
But then when it's when it's twins and the complications that
(39:11):
couldn't come with that because there's all kinds of things with
twins where one would grow and sort of the stuff off off the
other child and things like that.
And there were twins when we were in hospital when our twins
were born that had been through that.
So you had one twin that was like 6 foot two and one that was
about four inch. So it was just like bizarre to
say, but that's all the stuff they warn you about when you
(39:36):
when you start down the sort of twin routes.
Yeah, but they were sort of theywere very matter of fact with us
and that and explain this is howit's going to be and this is
what we're going to do. You'll be here every couple of
weeks scans checking the growth and everything went there and
then agreed to date and sort of another strange quirk of the day
(40:01):
that so they gave us a date to say.
Twins that were basically born on the 5th of February, that's
the anniversary of when my dad died when I was a baby as well.
So, so that's sort of like a daythat bittersweet in a way.
So you've got the fact that my dad passed away on that date in
1981 and then you've got the twins were born on that date in
(40:25):
2009. So from, so from my mum's point
of view, it sort of gives it. Suppose it's turned a really
Saturday into a very happy day. So yeah.
Oh cracker, that is, I mean what?
So. So let me just get this right
you when your dad passed away, the girls were born on exactly
the the same date. Yeah, same date, yeah.
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I didn't know that that's that is, you know, turning, you know,
something, you know, as sad as that was into, you know, you
know, something that could be quite, you know, something for
your mum to to think of when shesees Isabella and Ruby is that
at that time, you know, we've talked about a real difficult
period for you with with Harry. You know that when you find out
(41:09):
you're pregnant, Adele, and thenfor the next 5-6, seven months
we're constantly worrying and constantly stressed thinking
this is going to happen again to.
Be honest, Jess, you were a bit of a blur.
I think you, you put yourself inthis protective bubble, I think.
And I, I never really got out ofit after Harry.
(41:30):
And then I was pregnant with girls and obviously were.
It just seemed to fly by really,didn't it?
It seemed to be a really quick pregnancy, like you say.
I went to hospital every every other week, really getting
checked, you know, And yeah, just obviously worry.
Just want to get in here, really.
As soon as they're allowed to beborn, let's have them on that
(41:53):
day and that's what we went for.Absolutely, yeah.
Yeah, and it went, it went all smooth when they were born, they
went to special care for, well, Ruby were there for 9 days and
Isabel were there for a couple of days.
So they were tricky when they were born.
We were breastfeeding, having togo down to visit them.
But you know, look at them now. They, they, you know, they
(42:15):
really tall, strong, healthy girls, aren't they?
Yeah, yeah. Well, yeah, we're going to go on
So. So for the listeners, Isabella
and Ruby, you know, 16 years old, they've come.
And it's again, another fantastic example of every time
a summer finishes, we go througha winter.
You go back in the spring, you see your two girls there.
They're they're at most matches walking around, seem to be
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getting taller and taller, you know, really lovely, lovely
children and growing up into fantastic adults.
I can see that that Stanley's getting them into a sort of a
special place now with work. When it was the busiest bar ever
and when we won the league. There's 2 girls behind the bar.
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We've not done it before and it's Isabella Ruby.
Ruby had actually done a couple of Wednesday nights.
Right. And so she'd been doing a couple
of shifts there, just getting used to the everything, and then
she was really thrown in the deep end on that day because it
was really busy. It was, but who cares?
They did a great job, they helped the club out again, just
(43:19):
like, you know, the last two or three generations of your
family. So.
So Gav, we've got the 2, the obviously twins, these two
little girls, your your, your best mate, your mucker.
You've got to be wanting, you know, you'll be concerned just
like everyone else. All the other Rugrats would have
been. These two girls are born nice
(43:40):
and healthy. I've did a pint get taken to
celebrate the birth of them. Well, that's about one or two,
Jess, You know, just to just to keep up traditions.
You know, it's got to be done. But yeah, everyone was just so
pleased. Yeah.
Great news. And because everyone knew they'd
be great at it, you know, and having gone what they've, you
(44:04):
know, gone through what they've gone through, it was just really
nice, you know, and it were, it were really good news.
And it was nice to see nice people, you know, have something
good happened to them, really, you know?
Yeah. And then it continues with, you
know, with a pair of them. You know, they're growing up
into fantastic human beings. So, you know, if we can, we'll,
(44:29):
I will push everything for the, the Sans charity.
Please, anyone who's listening to this, if it's touched you in
any way or how brave Adele's been and, and Matthew, with all
the support that that's been there for them and their
families, let's try and, you know, whether it's a lower house
push or a house cast push, but try and, you know, push this
Sans charity and, and let's support it the best way that we
(44:52):
can. I'm going to move away from from
this now. And I just want any other
comments, Adele, before I've just read out something that you
sent me. Have you anything else to add?
No, not really no. Just really appreciated if you
could donate every sponsor. If it's just a fibre, you know
(45:14):
it's not. It's not even a part nowadays.
Is it a fibre so that you know every little bit will help all
the grieving parents? So it'd be really appreciated if
you could help us out. Yeah, I think one thing that's
probably right to say, and it's probably long overdue in a way,
but the support that we got fromeveryone at the time and the
(45:35):
sport from the Cricket Club and things like that.
I sort of vividly remember doingall the the Funeral arrangements
and the guys that all the Sonoran said what basically they
have like a really fancy sort ofFord Focus.
We'll be using that car on the day this kind of thing.
You like that, That's fine. Yeah, that's because that's what
we do with with babies. And then Steven Alderson there
(45:59):
got a feel for there was going to be quite a lot of people
present and, and basically rang on the morning and said, look,
so just so you're not alarmed, we are going to turn up with the
full sort of the full car and everything all set out because
you know, there's going to be quite a lot of people there.
And we turned up at the the Chapel at the top of the
(46:19):
cemetery there and it was absolutely jammers.
So I'd say that support means anawful lot to to wasn't did then,
and still does today. Yeah, yeah, I bet it.
At that time, you know, you two young, you know, young adults,
you, you're in a, you know, you're in a nightmare.
You're in a real thunderstorm. And at the time, you probably
(46:43):
can't appreciate it as much, butit's good.
We can talk about it now and youcan remember that and remember
the those sorts of times and thesupport you can give to other
people. Gav, is there anything from
yourself before I, you know, close it up?
No, just to, just to say to Adele there when you said it's
(47:03):
not even the price of a band, you looked at Matthew.
He won't know because it very rarely goes to the bar.
But no, other than that, just have nothing.
I think it's because he keeps sending me, doesn't he?
And as well, I'm going to dob him in here.
Adele as well. You probably, you probably are
aware, but when, when you weren't pregnant with girls and
(47:26):
we'd all wait for a band, he'd always throw me on the bus.
They'd go right, Adele's on the way.
Now you got bar, now you got bar.
And she won't have a go at you, but she'll go mad at me.
So every time you turned up and we've gone for a pack to pick
him up because you're his taxi driver.
And he'd go, oh, Gav's just been.
Gav's just been. Bar yeah, I've got.
(47:47):
I've got. I've carried that for long
enough standing. The other big beneficiary of
that was Razzers on Atkinson Rd stopping by there for a mixed
kebab on the way through because.
The DAF thing is, Gav, Adele would have known all along what
we're going. Don't worry about that.
(48:08):
She knew what we're going on. So just to finish you up once
again, please help and support what you can.
Harry would have been 18 on Sunday.
Adele's put some, you know, somegreat words in helping me to
understand what happened and, and, and through sounds and, and
Adele's mentioned that always onthe run up to, to Harry's
(48:30):
birthday, they would always havea little bit of a celebration
and a little bit of a toast. And, and Adele's dad would be
front and centre of that, you know, and unfortunately he
passed away last March. So that is a difficult period
now when it's probably bringing back, you know, what, what you
(48:51):
went through with Harry. And you know, your dad was, you
know, relatively young with that.
So you're going to have a familymeal just to toast your dad and
Harry as, as you know, as it comes up to his 18th birthday.
So I really mean it to Dale. You've been so brave.
And thanks very much for puttingcoming out and telling us what
you've told us. And like I said, if it helps one
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person, then you know, then it'swork to treat.
So thanks very much, Adele. Thanks very much.
Matthew, Gav, I really appreciate you coming on.
I think it's been the best way of doing this.
We've we were chatting about whether Duke should come on,
whether Joe Martin, whether Gary, but they never easy wants
to do like this. But I can assure you, Adele and
Matthew, people will really appreciate it.
(49:33):
They'll really thank you for fordoing what you've done.
So thanks very much and. Thank you.
To the to the older listeners, please continue to like and
subscribe to the to the House cast and and support sounds
wherever you can. So thanks very much everyone for
listening. Gordon Gordon, send more house
(50:14):
to save the house.
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