December 16, 2025 • 59 mins
As a follow-up to our deep dive into Drew Barrymore’s pivotal year of 1993, we’re zooming in on two truly iconic magazine moments that helped define her image during that era. This week, we break down her May 1993 Seventeen cover and editorial—featuring a dreamy, beatnik-inspired spread shot by longtime collaborator Matthew Rolston—before getting into June 1993 Vogue, where Drew hits Coney Island in a playful, unforgettable shoot marking her first collaboration with Ellen von Unwerth.
Together, these features paint a fascinating snapshot of Drew at 18, with revealing interviews that touch on her painful breakup with Jamie Walters, her 1940s meets 1970s personal style, and her habit of consulting dream dictionaries. It’s a treasure trove of ’90s nostalgia and insight into a star in the middle of a major reinvention.
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Hey Druby's, before we start this episode, we just wanted to
say happy holidays to all of you.
We appreciate you so much. We are not doing a traditional
Christmas episode this year, butwe do have Drew's Christmas
movies that we've covered in thepast that you could go listen
to. We've covered all of the other
reindeer on episode 17, and we covered Babes and Toyland for
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episode 65, so we've explored the movies that are kind of
outright Christmas movies, so wehope you enjoy.
Babes and Toyland Christmas movie ish Santa sort of at the
end. So yeah, revisit those and Merry
Christmas. Yeah, Merry Christmas, Happy
Holidays and Happy New Year. Hello and welcome to How Do You
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Drew? This is a Drew Barrymore podcast
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I'm Anne. And I'm Ashley and this week we
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are discussing 2 magazine features from the year 1993,
Seventeen from May and Vogue from June.
Yes, we love doing these magazine breakdowns.
We. Love.
I think there's some of my favorites to do.
Like maybe not. I think the movies end up being
like the best episodes, but there's so much more work.
Yeah, and I think that the tidbits that we get out of the
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magazines are cool or like how we can make connections and you
can always you always do your like mini deep dives.
So we've got lots of little tinydeep dives in every single one
of these magazine episodes for sure.
Yeah. All right, so let's get into the
top of the show. Before we start our topic for
the week, we are starting with alittle tidbit I guess here, but
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it's sort of another thing that sort of like puts a puzzle piece
in. Right, it does.
And you discovered this one. It's a video of Adam Sandler.
I can't even remember where it was.
It was on Instagram or who he was talking to.
But he just kind of mentioned, Ithink they're asking him about
like his favorite like 90s groupor something, or favorite album,
right? And he says, is it Holes live
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through this? And so he says he remembers
going to a show of theirs in Missouri and you found the date.
It's October 26th, 1994. And he remembers seeing Drew
come out on stage during the show at some point.
And like, we know that this would have happened like a
couple, you know? Like we know that she would be
on tour with Hull a lot in 94. Yeah, the timeline fits
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perfectly. Like we didn't know she was at
this particular show. We don't have any photos of it.
And I like cross reference to Adam was doing like a comedy
show in Missouri that same day. So I was like, yes, that's sad.
But yeah, it's kind of fun because that was a few years
before she even started. Started like sort of knocking on
his door. Like, hey, I think we need to
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work together. So I kind of love that the
universe in such a weird place sort of brought them together.
Like, who even knows if they talked?
It didn't really sound like it. No, it sounded like she was in
the crowd. He spotted her.
Like he mentions like she was dating the guitarist at the time
and she just popped out. But I love that.
And I love like, I don't know that just that little.
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Like he could have seen Drew Barrymore at that point in his
life and then never encountered her again.
Yeah, But it ended up being thishuge relationship like, you
know, anyway. So fun, great little tidbit.
I was very excited by it, so thanks for finding and sharing.
Yeah, All right, we have a very short little list here for this
week's Drew Loves, but let's getinto what she's proclaimed her
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love for recently. I love, love.
OK, yeah, very short. And I'm like, I have to accredit
that to the fact that she's barely on the Drew Barrymore
Show these days, as we've mentioned.
And I'm not kidding. I mean they should change it to
the the Rossi Ross show or CindyAnderson show or the Valerie
Burke Valley show. It's crazy.
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There was an episode recently, she did a 32nd intro, then some
of the other people did the whole rest of the show, and then
the end was like an old clip from like a couple years ago and
that was it. Yeah, yeah, it's wild.
We still haven't gotten any any answers on that guys, but we're.
We're noticing with no answer. Yeah, all right.
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But back to the the fun part. Drew loves.
She loves a workplace dilemma. Oh, maybe it has something to do
with what's going on. No, just kidding.
She loves to be convinced. OK?
And she loves a candle. Cute.
She's a fire starter. Twisted fire starter.
In fact, I do know. No, no.
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No, no. All right, so should we get into
what's new with Drew now? Here we go with the news,
everybody. Yeah.
We don't have much to say, but this is sweet and great.
She is once again, an ambassadorfor Saint Jude's holiday
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fundraising. You know, she's been involved
with them for years. Like, I feel like there were,
like, hospital visits and stuff like that that she'd done.
But this time around, we have a new photo in her shirt that says
this shirt saves lives. I think they, like, fundraise
with that. And then there's also a new
little commercial. She's got like, very 2007 hair
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going on, like straightly parteddown the middle.
Right? Yeah.
It totally is like everybody's fine hair.
Right. Oh, I was thinking more, yes,
but I was actually thinking morelike music and lyrics.
Promo time. Yeah, we're a little bit.
She did that. Yeah.
So it's just like throwing me off because it doesn't look like
it's from now. It's it is kind of weird.
The commercial is really sweet. Of course, there are like
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multiple clips of other celebrities, but I like I like
seeing something new. I mean obviously of.
Course. And then like just to go along
with all that, she also Co hosted A Gladitude celebration
event at actress Marlo Thomas's house.
And Marlo is the national outreach director for Saint
Jude's. So they had like some patients
there and there's not a lot of info of what went on, but really
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nice that she's taking the time to do that.
Yeah, very much so. Very cool.
Saint Jude's doing good work out.
There Yeah, I've donated to them.
I'm sure I will again this year cuz it's just like, I like to do
that in December. Yeah, silly.
Like you could do it at any point, but you know, they're
like doing the outreach. So it's like, of course, let me
do that. Of course it's that time of
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year. Yeah.
OK, so totally changing gears. Should we get into some 1993
magazines? Well, 93 Guys was just so
delicious that we didn't get enough of it last episode in our
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year in review. I love delicious because that's
so true. And also I think we may be like
underestimated just how delicious.
I don't know. Yeah.
And they're going through these makes me realize like, no, I
don't think I underestimated it.I just always go like 9495 in my
head. That's true.
I would agree with that for sure, but 93 is beautiful and we
talked about both of these magazines briefly because their
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photos are pretty, pretty classic ones for Drew.
But the articles are both very short but really jam packed with
some fun info. So we're like, you know what?
We'll just do both of them cuz they're quickies and just kind
of use this as a companion pieceto our last episode.
Yes. And you know, while you're
listening to us talk about this,just pretend you're like holding
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the magazine in your hand. You know what a magazine feels
like. I actually have.
Hold on, You're next. You have the next two.
Well, I meant to scan them todayand I didn't get a chance, but I
have the papers. Nice people.
Can you do the magazines? Yes.
Because. I love paper.
Yeah, yes, we love it, rubbing it all over ourselves.
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But I just, I just have to pointout like the physicality of this
and that we are collectors and like that of course we have
these iconic pieces in our collection.
Yeah. I don't know, it's just, it's
just fun because I just go back to like, Oh my God, when I got
this, not that I remember the exact moment, but like being in
the collection is like such a huge part of our, I don't know,
our journey here. Ruby experience.
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I actually do remember getting the Vogue one like I do, exactly
where I was. So yeah, it was special.
That's so cool. OK, so let's start with 17
Magazine from May 1993. Should I jump in?
Let's do it. OK, So the photography for this
issue was done by Matthew Rolston.
This was their third photo shoottogether.
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It followed an interview magazine from 1991 and
Entertainment Weekly and 1982, and there were many more to
follow. Have we covered any of the
things that they've done before other than like briefly kind of
do you remember like. Doing a whole episode about 1.
Yeah. I don't know.
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And there's so many that they did together, but I don't think
we have. That's kind of weird.
Yeah, it's interesting because that name is so.
We say it a lot, right? I don't know.
So I'm sure we've probably covered some.
I guess that's what I wanted to say is like, I'm sure we've
mentioned this name a bunch. Yes.
She also attended a couple of events with him this year.
So it seems they had kind of like maybe a friendship had
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formed here. And not surprising, Drew loves
working with the same people andover and over again and.
Totally. And there were a couple of photo
shoots for this magazine. So this happens sometimes the
cover shoot is done separately in a studio and then like so
this is the situation like that I.
Can't I have to say it? It always kind of bothers me.
I'm such a weirdo. Like I'm like just, well, I'll
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be one thing together. You know, I think it's because
we like to organize yes, like visual of the thing together.
So it's like if the shoot, especially when the shoot is
done by a different photographer, like that's even
weirder. It happens though.
I know. I mean, I guess sometimes
though, it's like I'm, I'm way more annoyed if it's a, if they
use a photo shoot from like an existing thing totally than I am
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if they're doing 2 new ones. But either way, it's, it is a
confusing thing for us as like organizers.
OK, so I'll just get a little bit into the cover shoot and
then we'll get into the other one cuz there's more.
For the cover shoot, the hair was done by, I don't know if
it's pronounced Samal or Kamal, not sure.
And then the makeup was done by Joanne Gare, who also did the
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makeup for the guests campaign the same year along with some
other shoots. And you reached out to Joanne.
Yeah, I did. She's super sweet on Instagram,
so I just asked if she had any memories from this, but she said
during this time period, I worked with Drew many times.
I loved her joyful energy, kind nature and professionalism.
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Yeah, kind comments corner. She also said for the 17 cover,
she was a delight to work with and a perfect canvas with her
youthful, beautiful pale skin. I believe we shot this with
photographer Matthew Ralston. Yep, around the same time we did
the guest campaign in 1993 with the photographer Wayne Maser.
I did several looks on her for this series, which I understand
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the photos are now considered iconic.
Additionally, I did several moreeditorials with Drew in the
ninetys all the way to around 2002.
Hope this is helpful. Thank you, Joanne.
And if you guys want to follow her, her Instagram is at Joanne
Gare. And is she still currently doing
makeup? Yeah, it looks like.
It OK cool that's cool so yeah we love having the little
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interactions that we can like share just a little like about
people but I love it's like we hear this like joyful energy,
kind nature and professionalism like professionalism in these
situations has been discussed and re discussed and.
I know I can't wait for the day we reach out to someone and
they're like, she was a horriblebitch.
I don't want to talk about it. She was so bad.
So terrible. So far it hasn't.
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Happened exactly. All right, so let's get it to
the on location shoot, which this is what we remember more.
Yeah, I think so. And we'll get into that a little
bit more. So that for the on for on
location, the hair was done by Howard Barr and makeup by Beth
Katz. And the photo, the photos of
which there are many, were takenat two different locations in
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San Francisco, which I'm literally across the Bay from
right now. So it's kind of cool.
I didn't even think. About that.
And it was the City Lights Bookstore and Cafe Treest, which
you looked up and they look pretty much the same as they did
in 1993, which I love. Crazy I love first of all that
they're even both still in operation super cool and I found
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like pictures of them now where she took her photos and I mean
they even still have the little postcards on the wall in the
same spot like at the bookstore it's.
Just. Wild.
So maybe you can take a little trip across the Golden Gate
Bridge, do a little location scouting for us.
And then I just found that the musicians that are playing
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behind Drew, they're like a jazzmusicians.
And it's a group called the Brown Fellini's.
And according to their Instagram, they were also still
going strong as of 2023. So cool.
San Francisco is just like timeless, I guess.
Things just never go away. They're just like nothing
changes and they're literally still playing in cafe trees like
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they haven't left. That's what they mean when they
say like still going now, just so I I know we talked about bit
about the photographs in the 1993 episode, but what can we
even say about like, I don't know these.
Are really cool so it's supposedto be this is kind of the theme
it's called bohemian Rhapsody itsays berets and Burrows
cappuccinos and Kerouac back in the 50's the beat neck scene was
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more brains and brown and sleek was chic so it's just kind of
like I think it's. Supposed to be.
Poetry and cafe and, you know, beatniks and all that stuff,
which, cool, it totally comes across.
It totally comes across. She looks like she's from
another time. Every single.
I mean, I mean, all the picturesthat were printed, she's wearing
a different outfit. Yeah, gorgeous.
(14:35):
Like I mean the Marilyn Monroe hair like you can't that that is
their. Undeniable.
Undeniable. Yeah, Yeah.
And all the pictures on the inside are sepia tone, which I
think is such a cool thing. Of course I would love to see
them in color. Oh God, I never even thought
about that as a possibility, That's crazy.
Wonder if they were shot in black and white though.
Yeah. Probably back in that day,
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right? Yeah, probably.
I don't know. I mean they're I'm sure they
were shot on film 1993. Oh, for sure, yeah.
And we do have outtakes from this, like quite a few actually.
Thank God. Some really sweet ones, like I
feel like she looks pretty serious in all of the ones that
were printed. And then there are some like
with kind of like you get more of a Drew silliness coming
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through, like, yeah. That's so true.
What a great observation. You're right, because she is
laughing or being playful or silly and a lot of the outtakes,
but none of the ones that they printed, which we talked in our
last episode, we felt like they were going for a more like
mature version of her than what was normally in the press at
this time. Was the bad girl in the black
bra right? Right.
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I mean, even I even feel like it.
I think we talked about this a little bit, but this doesn't
feel like a 17 magazine shoot because it feels so kind of
mature. Like I feel like, I don't even
know, like pluck almost like plucked out of Vogue, which
we'll get into, but it's more like a, it almost looks like a
high fashion shoot. Maybe that's also why these two
kind of go together so well for an episode, because they do they
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kind of like live in the same space for some, some way.
And the fact that there are like, like I don't know if we
mentioned, but so many of them were printed as a full page in
the magazine, which once again, if you guys can appreciate that,
it's probably because you are not paper collectors.
But like, yeah, I'll say it again.
I love. Paper.
Yeah. Yes.
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Especially full pages. Yes.
And then just the last little note that we have about this
photo shoot, I guess, is that there's one photo where she's
sitting on the countertop in thecafe, and that was used as like
the fan reply postcard for some time.
And I feel like we got a copy from Rob, maybe Rob Break.
Yeah. I think it did come from him.
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I know we have another one from like an older shoot so she would
like change them every once in awhile and then I don't even does
that exist anymore? Good.
Question, There used to be a thing guys where you sent fan
mail and you would get this likepre printed signed card back.
Oh my God, the first one I got in the mail.
I just remember that being so thrilling, which is so funny to
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think about. I know what mine was.
Mine was like a JTT thing and then I remember also writing to
Oh my God now I'm gonna forget the name of the actress who
played the girl he like kissed in Tom and Huck.
Rachel Lee Cook Rachel Lee Cook.I wrote to her and said like she
was really like. Bitch, why'd you kiss my man?
I. Think I was said you're so lucky
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to have worked with him. And then I got like a fan reply
picture of her too. Anyway, this was such a thing
guys. And like, if you look in older
magazines, you'll see like a whole list of like, write to
your favorite celebrities. It's cool.
It was like definitely a good little operation they had going
the studio fan mail because like, come on, she's not gonna
be able to see all of these letters, but at least you would
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get something back. It was just like a generic
thing, but it was really sweet. And yeah, we've got a handful on
the Dracium's website. So yeah, it's a fun, it's a fun
physical media thing. Of course it is.
All right. Should we get into this little
article? And I mean, little.
It's a page, but it's got some really great little chunks of
info that, you know, we all love.
Yeah. So this article was written by
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Kevin Koffler, and the interviewwas done on a rainy day inside
Drew's cozy West Hollywood apartment.
And it's kind of like we've beenworking sort of on this,
figuring out where she lived in the 90s, like early 90s.
It's very confusing. I think we are to understand she
lived in this apartment and thenshe moved to a house when she
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got the money from guests. It's kind of what she said.
So we're before that, and this is a very long little excerpt
here at the beginning, but it just sets the scene so
beautifully. I felt like we had to include.
It right we love these. So it starts.
Filled with the smoky haze of burning Jasmine incense, the
flickering flames and dancing shadows of votive candles, and
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the soft, groovy sounds of Digable Planets, the room
reflects the renewed sense of spirituality Drew says she has
experienced since her broken engagement to actor Jamie
Walters. And it continues, set against
the far wall, somewhat a lost among the piles of books on
dream interpretation, stocks of unread scripts, and a cornucopia
of art and craft supplies. Drew's enormous king size
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antique bed functions as the room's command central.
Spun from layers of feather and foam, the bed creates A cushion
which Drew says protects her from the rest of the world.
And she's right. Sinking into it is like floating
on a big white fluffy cloud. I love it.
It's. So cute.
I couldn't help but think of is it bizarre 96 where she like
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brings JVM into the bed and I was just thinking like oh.
Buddy JVM, you're too right. Like I pictured it, like, did
she invite him in? That's where they did the
interview. Like, I don't know.
It's really cool. Yeah, I had to note like put a
little pin in the dream interpretation book because that
comes up in the next article that we're going to cover too.
I just think that's so funny, little crossover.
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I. Totally had a dream
interpretation book at one point.
The same of course, you could not be a teenager in the 90s
without one. Yeah, you put it next to your
amethyst stones, like you. Wake up in the morning, don't
forget your dream, Don't forget your dream.
Hurry, look it up. What's it mean?
Fantasy OK, so Drew tells a story of Jamie breaking up with
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via the phone three days before she was to return to LA from
Vancouver after filming The Amy Fisher Story.
We've mentioned this a couple times.
Like the third episode in a row.Right.
And I'm just like this reading it like, so we know that.
We also know this, but he moved out of the house by the time she
was back. So like basically separation
really no closure. Yeah.
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She said that the time they spent apart really took a toll
in their relationship. Like she was working in
different places so they had a place together but weren't
really like, able to be together.
And Drew described the breakup, she said.
I've never felt pain like this in my entire life.
And. We've described this like we
think it's her first, like majorbreakup as sort of an adult,
even though she's still so young.
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Yeah. She talked about that they tried
to like, date a little bit longer while they were living
apart and it just didn't work, she says.
I think multiple times that Jamie was like her best friend
that she had. And she feels like like really
pained that they're losing that.And she hopes they'd be friends
again one day, which didn't happen.
But we know they've encountered each other.
(21:24):
Yeah. I was like, I have to insert
this photo of her running into him in 1999 at a charity event
where she looks like just totally floored by seeing.
Yeah. Literally hands on her forehead
like, which is like, what? It's six years.
Almost. Yeah, that's crazy.
Feels like nothing on one thing.On the other, like so weird.
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Yeah. OK, so Drew explains that she's
working on her spiritual growth and changing her fashion style,
and this is kind of a fun quote from her.
She says I completely dressed inthe grunge look when I was with
Jamie. When we broke up, I burned all
my flannels and started to dresslike a girl again.
I took out my old Agnes B suits,bought some new dresses and
started wearing bell bottoms with vintage jackets.
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I think my look is 40s meets 70sand since I rarely go out at
night anymore, I dress up wherever I go.
Love it. It's a couple things.
I want to say, like the 40s meets 70s thing.
We actually bring that up when she does boys on the side.
Like I think she referenced thatand we were like, yes, that
totally makes sense, right. Yeah.
So I thought that was fun. I was.
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Trying to remember where we've mentioned it because I was like,
we've totally mentioned it and we've, but we've both been like,
yes. That's it.
Yeah, exactly. I couldn't really find a lot of
evidence that I felt was like. Oh, she was so.
Grunge when they were together. But you know, maybe in her mind.
I also remember that quote. That thing about burning the
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flannels was one of the trivia questions in that newsletter
that you and I met on. How funny.
Like the only thing I remember. I also just, like, can't picture
her doing that. Yeah, I kind of can, but I'm
also like, really? Did you burn them?
Maybe it's metaphorically, yeah.Yeah, she talks about kind of
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going out because we talked about in the previous episode
that she was more like homebody at this time and maybe like how
comfy her bed is isn't an indicative to a thing.
Yeah, that's I left that point. And this was like the first time
in her life pretty much that she'd been kind of a homebody.
Like from the time she got famous.
It was like, let's go out, let'sgo out, let's hustle.
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Hustle and also party, party, soshe says.
At this point in her life, she said the only club she likes to
go to these days is Sound Factory in New York.
She says it's fun because everyone is in their own world
and nobody bothers me there. It's a place I could do my own
thing and release about a year'sworth of tension in six hours of
dancing. So I looked that place up.
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I think it closed like 2 years after those, which is kind of
like sorry Drew Rep she. Says at home, her nightlife
usually consists of reading, writing, sewing, doing spin art
and painting with acrylics. Which is so cute.
I love it. I also like sewing.
Did she really sew? And then there's another quote
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here, she said. After Jamie left I lost every
ounce of inspiration I had. I'd sit in bed with a pen in my
hand and stare at a blank piece of paper before saying forget
it. Recently it started to come back
so I've been on a creativity binge.
I spend 2 hours doing things like making clothes so I want to
ask I guess how soon after theirbreakup was like this?
Done yeah. So I mean it would have come out
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in April and we believe they broke up in December so OK
Really. Pretty soon.
Yeah. Very fresh I I don't know that
image of her just like staring at a blank journal page like
made me so. Sad, yeah.
But yeah, it's still pretty fresh, yeah.
Totally. So she talks about how after the
successes of Poison Ivy, Gun Crazy and The Amy Fisher story,
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she feels like she is done playing nymphettes.
She says quote for now, I don't want to do anything sexual on
screen. I'm grateful to have the
opportunity to be selective, andI'm going to choose wisely.
It's kind of like I don't need to be doing a doppelganger shit
anymore. Yep.
Yep, no more bloody shower scenes for me.
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Why not? What's wrong with that?
So the article ends with Drew talking about trying to decide
what to do about her James tattoo.
So Drew had Jamie Walters name as James on her back, she says.
I haven't gotten it removed yet.Maybe finding out he's got his
covered up will give me the incentive to do it, not because
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I'm following him, but because that would be a true indication
that it's time to move on. My mom is a total cynic about
love, but I never was before Jamie.
Now I understand her a little bit better.
That's how the article ends. And I also I always forget that
he has Drew's name. Yeah, we've, I don't think we've
ever seen it. So very random coincidence.
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I was not looking for this, but in the last few weeks I found an
article that he mentions this. So he talks about in the N94
issue of YM, I guess he discusses like that.
His friends told him. Like don't get her name tattooed
across your back. You're going to regret it.
You're going to break up. Well, they were right, but he
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says I had it touched up. It's not exactly gone, but the
specifics have changed. I would love to see a before and
after. Oh my God, I wonder if there's
anything out there. Well, we've talked about hers
before and after where she said that the ink just bled like his
name just became illegible. And we're we're not sure if
(26:47):
that's true because like, it wasshown on the Drew Barrymore Show
a couple years ago and it did not look like it bled it like
black. It was either blacked out or
they like photoshopped his out for the show.
Right. And I feel like we really
couldn't tell if it had been blacked out like with Photoshop
or blacked out with tattooing. But anyway, them having gotten a
(27:07):
name, their names on each other,it's just like shows how kind of
like intense that was. Right.
And they weren't even together that long.
It was like, right, Less than a year.
You know, it's just, well, but she's 17.
Like, of course that's what you're going to do when you
think you're going to marry thisguy.
Right. And she's always just like,
well, it's the whole father figure thing.
Nothing is a father, but just like it, you know, messes kids
(27:28):
up kids, it messes people up in relationships.
She's looking. At home, fries.
That's the kind of thing that messes kids up.
Perfect, perfect Ashley, you always got to bring out the Drew
quotes. They're in my brain all the
time. It's all I think about now.
You can even link it. The thing is a character, say,
(27:49):
to Drew's life. That's how embedded it is.
Yeah, True. All right, so we will get into
our next magazine after these messages.
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Thank you. All right, so let's get back
into our coverage of these fun 1993 magazines.
And now we're going to take a look at Vogue from June 1993.
This one is not a cover feature,but there's so much drew content
in it. There even is 3 or 4 guest ads.
(29:15):
Do you remember that? They're in this issue?
So and these were like this is when they first started coming
out. So, man, what a magazine to get
back then as a fan. Like I said, I remember, like,
getting in the mail. I remember being in my room at
my dad's house and, like, it's finally here.
I'm being so precious about it. But Naomi Campbell is on the
cover. And last I looked, I was just
(29:37):
kind of like, browsing eBay. Yeah, they were expensive, like
$5070 for this issue. Yeah.
So good luck guys, if you don't have it already.
Wow. Yeah, crazy.
Kind of wild. So as we've mentioned many, many
times, this photo shoot was doneby Ellen von Unworth and this
was their first collaboration together and they would go on to
(30:00):
do like 10 plus. So they work together a ton.
They always made beautiful images together.
They just have like a special chemistry when it comes to
taking pictures. You know, it feels like
beautiful is an understatement somehow.
Like it's we are obsessed with many of them.
We've done an episode. Go look it up, you've done an
(30:20):
episode all about their staff together.
Yes, the hair for this one was done by Peter Savik and the
makeup was done by Tracy Martin.And these photos were taken in
New York in March 1993 and they were done at Coney Island and
then also at the Royalton Hotel in NYC.
So it's kind of fun because likethe last one, there's like two
different locations going on. And once I knew that, I could
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really start seeing that in the photos like, oh, these are from
the Coney Island batch and theseare from the hotel which.
Is so fun, right? Because I hadn't even actually,
when I look at them, I was thinking more.
I think we, when we mentioned inthe last episode, I was totally
just picturing Coney Island, like all the stuff outside.
And then I'm like, Oh yeah. But I feel like the ones that
are in my mind prominent from the hotel are outtakes.
(31:04):
Interesting, OK 'cause I feel like the more glammed up ones
where she's in like silky robes and pajamas and also nothing at
all except for some really fun shoes.
Those I think are the hotel batch.
And then all the like, fun, playful outside ones are
obviously Coney Island. I I think the Coney Island ones
come to mind 1st and then it's like, Oh yeah, the one with the
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like her naked in the the sofa seat is like in that too.
Like I'm like, oh duh. Like I don't know, it's sort of
a it is anyway it is funded to identify that just like it is
like with guests, with the guests things.
Like. Here's there's a three different
places. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Anyways, so these are also stunning.
I mean, what did we say about the last ones?
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How do we even talk about this? I know we've talked about them
so many times. You guys will have, we always
say this, but we always have an episode page on how do you
drew.com where you can see all of the photos that we're talking
about today. So go check that out.
Yes, most of these are full pageas well.
Yes, Hell yeah. And then the very first one, I
was reading the credits. It's cute.
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It's her like running on the beach with the seagulls.
And those were her own combat boots, which she did wear a lot
at this time. So I thought that was really
neat. I love it.
And I also love that, like I waslooking closer at some of the
pictures and that one with the seagulls, I was like, oh, it
looks like she's like cold and wearing the jacket that she was
just like wearing on set. And that was just one of the
pictures. Like I love it.
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There's some really like just stunning pictures in this,
actually weirdly similar to the last ones.
A lot of them are not in color. Yeah.
And again, like sometimes I wonder is it like, like if you
look at People magazine from the80s, nineties, Yeah, they were
always black and white for the most part.
And then like it finally switched over.
Like, yeah, that's how old timeywe are.
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I guess that we like, we're growing up in the time that
magazines are like, keep it black and white, It's cheaper.
Yeah, So it's funny with these, like I feel like it's very
intentional, like anyway, yeah, I don't know.
I think one of the ones that's color where it looks like she's
sitting on like a merry go round, Yeah, is so vibrant that
it's almost like shocking compared to the other.
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Ones because I got that bold redand she's got bright red lips.
Yeah, it is so bright and so saturated.
Yeah. And she has bright red lips and
I guess both of the shoots, the one from Coney Island and the,
Oh yeah, hotel in New York, cuz there also is one color one from
the hotel as well. And it's so like dreamy.
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And I feel like that picture, she looks like an old movie
star. Oh, for sure, yeah.
The hotel ones are definitely giving old, you know, classic
Hollywood vibes. Just yeah, which she pulls off
so well, especially back in thisday.
Right. And and she has like kind of the
Marilyn hair again, like she hadin the 17 shoot.
I will say I feel like some of my favorite ones from the shoot,
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I sort of end up like forgettingthere from this.
So like the the one where we have this outtake and I think I
have it printed from some magazine that's like her back.
She's like sitting on the bed and you can see.
This beautiful shot of tattoos. Like I forget that that falls
within this photo shoot. Yeah, it feels like a totally
different vibe for sure. I really agree with that.
There's and the one with her behind the fence.
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Like kissing? Love, love.
We love these and yeah, I think,I wish I could remember, like I
said, the exact moment I got them, but I remember it was one
of those like, coveted. Absolutely.
Coveted. I will say this is going back to
the guest ads thing but I feel like I remember that the guest
ads are printed on like the front and back of each other and
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it may be some of these are too.And that bothered me cuz I don't
know. Cuz you want to.
Display both of them. Somehow you.
Can I mean you can, but you know, I don't know.
I just remember that about it. Love paper, but sometimes you
got to deal with what's on the back of the page.
You probably. Wanted to put them on your wall
let's probably and it was like shit, which one do I pick,
right? Probably I I don't I think by
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this time I probably wouldn't have put like the articles on my
wall cuz I like the the feature anyway.
Yeah, I don't think we can do justice for the visuals of like
either of these. So do please make sure you go to
our website and check out the episode page and enjoy them
because they're gorgeous, delicious, delicious.
Exactly, Exactly. OK, so let's jump into this
(35:22):
article. So this was written by David
Handelman and I like how you said the beginning is kind of
confusing because it is a weird way to like start an article.
I probably read it like 4 times before I really understood what
was going happening. Right.
OK, so the article has a very weird and confusing opening.
(35:42):
I literally read it like 4 timesto try to understand what was
going on because it just drops us right in and says that Drew's
being schmoozed at the Russian Tea Room in New York City by
Broadway producer Fred Zolo. And he's apparently telling her
a story about how he and the like writer, director David
Mamet, and another director, Gregory Mosher, were considering
(36:05):
Drew for the lead in what I understood to be the film
adaptation of their play Oleana.So just there you go.
That's that's what I think was going on.
OK. And they were all apparently,
like discussing her age, like, oh, isn't she a little, isn't
she that little girl from ET? And one of them said, no, she's
a big girl now. And I just thought that was
(36:27):
like, gross. Right.
Like, just what a way to say that.
Yeah. And then, like, as all this is
being told to her, the author says that Drew quote, weathers
all of this with a trooper smile.
She's had a lot of practice and it just like that hit for me too
as like, oh, he's he was also thinking it was creepy.
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But Drew's like, totally dealt with this forever, so she knows
what to do. And probably once again, it's
like her professionalism is kindof numb, Like she knows how to
imagine having to know how to deal with like that.
I don't know. She's, she's got so much grace.
It's kind of amazing. And yeah, anyway, I just like
the rest of the article is so great.
(37:09):
I'm like, why did we start with this weird tone here?
Like, yeah, I don't know. It's a choice.
Yeah, totally. The author kind of says that
everyone always asks how old Drew is because people associate
her with Gertie. So at this time it's like it's
closer to like her child stardom, you know, then we can
kind of like think about it's sort of wild.
(37:30):
Like we're we're just 11 years from ET.
So like, I know that feels like a lot, but it's like really
relatively not. So people think that she's older
than she is because of what she's gone through in her life.
We talk about this all the time.So the author kind of just like
lists a couple of things. Stardom, drugs, rehab.
The People cover story, which isabout the rehab that's selling
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autobiography. She's gone through being an easy
punchline, gay icon and comebackstar like this.
So she's gone through all that and she's what?
She's just turning 18, Yeah. It's a fun list honestly.
Like I hate to say the easy punchline is true sadly.
Like because at that time especially like oh 13 year old
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on drugs haha let's make fun of her, right?
There's no sympathy back then. And I found the gay icon part
kind of interesting because I agree.
But at this time, that feels like interesting that that was
noted, you know? Yeah, totally.
I mean, is it, do we, do we think it's because of like
Poison Ivy, her having kissed Sarah Gilbert and Poison Ivy, is
that what it was? Baby I didn't think about.
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That was it. The nudity with other women in
interview like what was. It Yeah, you're right.
I was thinking more like gay guys love her, but you're right,
it could be that. Both, it's both, right.
So just like one more thing about her age.
So she had just turned 18 earlier in the year and she just
says like it meant she could buycigarette.
Which like, imagine she's been smoking for eight years at this
(38:59):
point, like and she's just getting them like without
legally being allowed to buy them.
Crazy. Right.
And before that, I'm sure it wasjust like nobody would question.
Yeah, she was turned on that charm.
Exactly. But she kind of explains like
technically she's been a legal adult since her emancipation at
age 15. So it's like weird.
And yeah, once again, how old isthis person I.
(39:21):
Also, I've tried to understand it.
Look up what it means when you're emancipated.
There's some things you can do, but you still can't do other
things like buy cigarettes, right?
She says that she celebrated herbirthday by playing mini golf
with friends. So we kind of went into this
again with the last episode, butlike low key, you know, keeping
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it. Personally, private, simple
friends. Yeah, totally.
OK, so we get the usual, as we always do, back story about her
childhood. You know, there is a very brief
mention of her working at a video store, to quote,
experience what I thought was a normal life.
And I was like, oh, that's familiar.
So I went and looked. And in Little Girl Loss, she
mentions this as well. She says it was around age 12.
(40:06):
And I remember we were both justlike, what?
What? Yeah.
And she had to work there because Jade wanted her to earn
her own spending money and. Cuz she didn't earn any of that
other money, yeah. All the money you guys are
living on, Drew did earn, so OK.Yeah, OK.
And then the article also mentions Jay taking her to quote
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the exclusive club Helena's to party with Jack and Angelica.
And that was fun to see because that was the unnamed club in
Little Girl Lost that we Id'd like it, that I figured out was
that place. So I was like, Yep, OK, I was
right. Yep, check.
Check. Yep.
And then it finishes with sayingwhile recovering, she lived
variously with boyfriends, whichpuke because she's like 14 or 15
(40:53):
years old. What the hell are we talking
about? And other adults, including
rehab singer David Crosby and his wife.
And then it says and former groupie Pamela Debarr.
And I don't think that's there'sa shred of like truth to that.
I've like because I remember Drew at one point was like
rumored to maybe be playing her in the movie about her life and
(41:15):
like it didn't sound like they knew each other at all.
But like Pamela was like she's the new age of groupies, you
know, was like when she was following whole around as we
mentioned. So this is just going to drop.
In there as if that's. Where that came from?
Yeah, It's so weird. That is so interesting.
OK, so then we are on the day ofthe shoot, cold and on the
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beach. So this is like you see it in
the pictures and I think I was mentioning she's like wearing a
jacket and the one with the seagulls In the article it says
Though her teeth chatter and herluminous skin starts to turn
blue, she never once complaints.In fact, she's exceedingly
polite, ardently thinking everyone who helps her or pays
her a compliment. And when she tosses some some
(41:57):
pieces of bagels at the birds, she seems genuinely shocked when
they immediately swarm around her.
Wow, she says with a beating smile.
They're all coming. They don't do this in LA.
I love the paragraph. Like, of course, of course she's
not complaining. She's professional, she's
polite, she's sweet. And of course Drew is the person
that appreciates seagulls. Like I'm always like they're.
(42:20):
Going to steal my food. Why are they swarming?
She's like please swarm. It's just so funny, so cute.
That's our girl. Her perching birdies.
Yeah, totally. So there's brief talk about her
time where she was snubbed by Hollywood.
She says. People wouldn't touch me.
They just thought I was some loser drug addict.
I thought I would never work again.
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Believe me, going from being themost famous child in the world
to doing an after school specialis kind of a bummer, which like
I like that she talks about thatbecause I don't feel like she
really ever has touched on, you know, the the after school
special, of course, is 15 and getting straight and she briefly
mentions in little girl loss, but not as like, wow, this look
(43:02):
how far I've. Come look at the like
juxtaposition, like that's pretty and here's like this girl
in whatever in fake rehab, but real rehab post real rehab.
Fake rehab post rehab at the real.
In the real rehab. So it mentions how instead of
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going down the like classic bad path for child stars, Drew
instead sobered up, rededicated herself, and reinvented herself,
eventually landing Poison Ivy and gun crazy.
And yeah, she did reinvent herself.
Yes, she was only 1617, but she reinvented herself as a sex
symbol because she knew that wasthe way to get away from the
(43:45):
child star. Yeah, she was right.
So it says that a week before filming Gun Crazy, she cut her
hair. I'll tell, I'll we'll talk about
this. But we think that might be an
exaggeration that it was a week before.
Yeah, based on another quote we have later on.
And also like, I just think that's an exaggeration.
Right, exactly. So anyway, it says she says 16
(44:07):
year old Drew and her roommate saw the movie 21 and we're so
charmed by Patsy Kensit's look that they cut off all their
hair. And it says Tamara Davis, who
was the director. She said the producers freaked
out, but I thought it was great.A stroke of genius.
It was so messed up looking thisdork looking haircut.
It was perfect for the character.
Which makes sense because the girl she plays in gun crazy is
(44:29):
like an outcast. She's not sexy and cool like
she's she's quote UN quote bad girl cuz she's like wrong side
of the tracks and she's right promiscuous, but it's because
she's been abused and like yeah,she's not the she's not like Ivy
right, Sure she they. Had to like it's it's actually
almost weird to like think that the girl who played Ivy and I
(44:50):
don't remember her name and gun crazy.
Anita. Anita so like that those are the
same person and within the shortamount of time like.
It's months apart. Right.
It's amazing. Can you imagine gun crazy with
her, like poisoning her? No, she did the right thing.
So she spoke about that in MovieLine 1992.
We have an episode about it's a really, really juicy article,
(45:11):
the juiciest article we've ever done.
If you guys really want some dirt.
But she says in that when I was getting ready for my second
audition on gun Crazy, which I believe that makes a little more
sense to me, she says, in which the girl is going to find cool
because she's so uncool. I thought, what if I'm just sexy
with all this hair? And what if the producers think
I can't do the role because I have long hair?
(45:33):
So I took scissors and cut it all off.
It's also like her saying it that way, like she would dare to
risk it is also like, what was the real decision?
Like, yeah, kind of wild. It's pretty.
Fun though. Yeah, it is.
It is very fun. So she debuted the short hair at
the premiere of My Own Private Idaho on October 11th of 1991.
(45:53):
And we believe that Gun Crazy was filmed sometime in November,
so. So makes a little more sense.
I don't think like, she'd be about to go in front of the
cameras and be like, surprise, right, Right.
Yeah, exactly. So we get into Drew's usual self
deprecating talk about not thinking that she's a good
actress and how she'll never talk about like, quote, UN quote
(46:15):
craft or like motivation in the way that somebody who's like
very, what do they call that method acting?
Yeah. So she says I just have a good
ability at adapting characters and becoming them.
I appreciate technical actors, but I'm different.
I want to have a personal, emotional, physical freedom.
Never hold back. It is funny how she's always
kind of talked about like method, but then I feel like
(46:37):
when she did like writing cars with boys, she almost kind of
did method. I would say that in Grey Gardens
are the exception. But other than that, I mean,
even as recently as the last fewyears I've heard her say on her
show like, oh, I'm, I don't think I'm a good actress.
Like I just know how to become other people, which is kind of
funny. It's like, well, but that's kind
of what it is. That is, that is the task.
(46:58):
It's almost like how she doesn'twant to put the label of sober
on herself. It's like it comes with a
heavier connotation than just being like, oh, I just know how
to play characters. All right, I love this part.
I love this little collection of.
Oh, my gosh, yeah. This is what it's all about.
The tidbits galore. And the author just starts
running them down. And This is why do we love it so
much? I don't know.
(47:19):
I always have, you know, just occurred to me.
I almost could trace it to the old Drew fan sites that Missy
Monday ran. She had something called the
Kooky Fax Jar. Yes.
Remember this? And you would click and it'd be
a picture of Drew with one little fact, and then you'd
click and then change to a new one.
And I almost wonder if that's like where this comes from for
(47:41):
me. So deeply ingrained that we're
like lists of little facts. Anyway, talk about our website
again. We've got a Drew Detail section
of the Drewzian where we've got just like lists of facts.
Yep, and it was totally inspiredby the kooky facts.
And yeah, we call it Drew details.
And it's just a huge list of these kinds of fun things.
So let's talk about what is mentioned in this article.
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So she claims to be anemic, claustrophobic and insomniac.
And we like the sleep thing has always been an issue for her.
Yep, she hates regret. But later on she apparently says
she regrets having pierced each ear with four holes.
She thought her BMW was too prissy, and now she loves her
(48:25):
prize possession, her Bronco, which of course we've talked
about last episode as well. Yep, she owns a 357 Magnum gun
and that might feel a little weird to you guys, but in
details 1993 she says it was a gift from Jamie, so I think.
It's weird still. Like I'm like what?
It is still weird. I think it's one of those Jamie
(48:49):
like remnants. I, you know, I think that cross
necklace you wore all the time in 92 is from him.
I think these were like things that were like, oh, Jamie gave
this to me and then like he's gone and eventually those
things. Circle.
Those things faded away as well.Burn the gun with the flannels.
I feel like it's like a very, like, I had a very like, like, I
forgot, probably read it multiple times.
(49:11):
I've been like, whoa. It just seems very weird for
her. Yeah.
She talks about the mixing of styles of 1940s and 1970s with
thrift store fines. And she says that she likes to
wear this Dolce and Gabbana quote UN quote happy hat and
platform shoes. And you pulled a picture of a
hat that she wore. This is an issue where like
multiple times. That maybe is the one right?
(49:33):
Is that a beret? Yeah, it's not the only one I
could think. Well, I think it's actually a
little bit more like a newsboy cap, because I searched Dolce
and Gabbana hats from that time and I think she's just wearing
it backwards. Backwards.
Yeah. Yeah, it's kind of fun.
She says her idea of fun is playing pinball at 7:11, and she
said she once ran into the director, John Singleton playing
(49:53):
pinball. Which is so weird because as we
mentioned in our last episode, this same year in 93, they like
share a cover of a magazine called Dirt or Drew's the top
half and his face is the bottom half.
It's like kind of. Funny, maybe they decided when
they met each other. So like, hey, do you know Spike
Jones? Me too.
Let's do this word cover together.
Do you want to be the bottom half?
(50:13):
I'll be the top half. I don't know.
Let's get it. I mean.
Then she says that she's superstitious and mentions over
the course of a few days that she had wished on a planet,
visited A psychic, monitored hermood ring and consulted her
dreamology book. Oh, there's that book we were
talking about. And here's the like little kind
(50:34):
of tidbit about, like, looking up a dream.
She said that she had looked up a dream about pizza with sour
cream and peas and found out that peas indicated good luck,
and soon after she booked the guest campaign.
She's psychic Psychic PCR. Have your peas on your pizza and
(50:56):
then star in Guess Jeans PF stream.
OK and then she said that her few wrinkles make her make her
worried that she'll age as fast as her dad, which it's just like
what you have such a baby face first of.
All what wrinkles? Yeah, and in 93?
(51:18):
And second of all, her dad. Like come on girl, you're OK.
But then we love when she mentions your dad because it
always results in some kind of like, amazingly fun exploration
of that relationship. Yeah.
So she says. It's strange because I see a lot
of similarities between US, and I usually groove hard on the
(51:39):
type of free spirit. He is someone who travels around
with a duffel bag, rides a bicycle, and doesn't wear shoes
because it believes it's not right.
But he's also tormented and fucked up, doesn't have his life
together and never wants to get it together.
And I can't stand quitters. He had an amazing career ahead
of him and shitted all the way on drugs.
Maybe I did too, but I realized it and learned from my mistakes.
(52:03):
Oof oof is right. So many it like sums it all up
right there. It does.
She doesn't really elaborate on it, but she does that.
She says that her and her mom don't really speak and that it's
probably just a phase. Which, as we all know, Nope.
That phase, they're still in it.I know like the only little
interruption of that phase was when she was with Tom Green and
(52:26):
briefly they reconciled. But other than that, like from
as far as we know, like 90 late 92 on, her and Jade were no
longer speaking. Yep.
So the article ends with Drew talking about how she loves to
visit her family, stars on the Walk of Fame, which it's neat to
think like she was still 10 plusyears away from getting her own.
(52:47):
So it's just like, oh, my family's here.
And she talks about how she always kisses her grandfather's
profile in the cement outside the Chinese Theatre, which is so
sweet and also so gross when youthink about all this going to
say. I hope every time she wiped it
off beforehand or maybe it's literally on the ground.
Kiss her hand and then put that on on the ground that I could
(53:08):
deal with, all right. But she says it has nothing to
do with being starstruck. It's kind of pathetic.
It's the only link I have to them because I want to have a
family. I'm sure I won't feel I have one
until I have my own SOB. I know.
And then she continues. When I was younger, I felt, how
can I live up to my family? I'm Hollywood royalty, me, a kid
(53:32):
who eats macaroni and cheese. It made me nervous.
I never or wanted to let them down, have people say God this
acting dynasty, what the hell happened to their granddaughter?
But I finally decided God is notgoing to come down and punish me
if I don't do them justice. I can only try and that's where
we end. It's kind of interesting too.
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I don't feel like she ever really talks about the pressure
of being from this grand acting family, you know?
Like she's. Always embraced it, which is
awesome. But yeah, there is like people
looking at you like, oh, are yougoing to be the next big amazing
actress, you know? Right.
OK, yes. What ends that way, which again
is like it's hopeful. We like when she's thinking in
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this way. There's a letter to the editor
that was printed in a later issue and it said thanks for the
article on Drew Barrymore. She's a wonderful actress and
person. She seems like the sweetest
woman on earth, and I give her much credit for her four years
of sobriety. That's so sweet.
That's nice. So sweet.
So. Sweet.
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Another little piece for the Kind comments corner.
Yeah, yeah, I liked this little.I mean, we love an excuse to go
through these. I think I like doing the
articles because that's like, I think I already said it, but
like it gives us an excuse to like go into some of the little
details. Yeah, and there's always things
that I forgot. Even as many times as I've read
some of these, especially the ones from the 90s, I always come
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away going like, oh whoa, I forgot about that little thing.
I mean, I guess also I realized it's like one of the only times
we get her voice because it's that and it's like interviews on
shows, which you haven't really jumped in too much in our
podcast, but that's why it's so fun.
We get to like, explore her as aperson and not as the thing
she's pretending to be. Right.
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Especially the ones that like are in her normal life.
Those are our favorites, which they're like at her house or
they're hanging out at a restaurant together, or she's
opening up her purse and showingthem all the contents.
Like, right. You know, we love Drew the
actress, but we love Drew the person even more.
This kid who eats macaroni and cheese.
Yeah, it's like. I love that.
I love that. Like she still is that kid
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eating macaroni. She's still that kid.
She's probably, you know, like one of the reasons she is so
playful and fun is I feel like she still is that little girl,
but also she had to be an adult so early that she like taps into
that kid and lives her childhood.
That's why her age never makes sense.
Right, because she's also five. She never got to be 5 or 6 years
old. Too much stress on her, too much
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career. Too much earning the money for
her family household. You got to learn how to earn
your own money. What?
What have I been doing since the80s, Mom?
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You can see the photos bigger than you know how they are on
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I'm Anne. And I'm Ashley and this week we
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are discussing 2 magazine features from the year 1993,
Seventeen from May and Vogue from June.
Yes, we love doing these magazine breakdowns.
We. Love.
I think there's some of my favorites to do.
Like maybe not. I think the movies end up being
like the best episodes, but there's so much more work.
Yeah, and I think that the tidbits that we get out of the
(02:01):
magazines are cool or like how we can make connections and you
can always you always do your like mini deep dives.
So we've got lots of little tinydeep dives in every single one
of these magazine episodes for sure.
Yeah. All right, so let's get into the
top of the show. Before we start our topic for
the week, we are starting with alittle tidbit I guess here, but
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it's sort of another thing that sort of like puts a puzzle piece
in. Right, it does.
And you discovered this one. It's a video of Adam Sandler.
I can't even remember where it was.
It was on Instagram or who he was talking to.
But he just kind of mentioned, Ithink they're asking him about
like his favorite like 90s groupor something, or favorite album,
right? And he says, is it Holes live
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through this? And so he says he remembers
going to a show of theirs in Missouri and you found the date.
It's October 26th, 1994. And he remembers seeing Drew
come out on stage during the show at some point.
And like, we know that this would have happened like a
couple, you know? Like we know that she would be
on tour with Hull a lot in 94. Yeah, the timeline fits
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perfectly. Like we didn't know she was at
this particular show. We don't have any photos of it.
And I like cross reference to Adam was doing like a comedy
show in Missouri that same day. So I was like, yes, that's sad.
But yeah, it's kind of fun because that was a few years
before she even started. Started like sort of knocking on
his door. Like, hey, I think we need to
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work together. So I kind of love that the
universe in such a weird place sort of brought them together.
Like, who even knows if they talked?
It didn't really sound like it. No, it sounded like she was in
the crowd. He spotted her.
Like he mentions like she was dating the guitarist at the time
and she just popped out. But I love that.
And I love like, I don't know that just that little.
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Like he could have seen Drew Barrymore at that point in his
life and then never encountered her again.
Yeah, But it ended up being thishuge relationship like, you
know, anyway. So fun, great little tidbit.
I was very excited by it, so thanks for finding and sharing.
Yeah, All right, we have a very short little list here for this
week's Drew Loves, but let's getinto what she's proclaimed her
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love for recently. I love, love.
OK, yeah, very short. And I'm like, I have to accredit
that to the fact that she's barely on the Drew Barrymore
Show these days, as we've mentioned.
And I'm not kidding. I mean they should change it to
the the Rossi Ross show or CindyAnderson show or the Valerie
Burke Valley show. It's crazy.
(04:31):
There was an episode recently, she did a 32nd intro, then some
of the other people did the whole rest of the show, and then
the end was like an old clip from like a couple years ago and
that was it. Yeah, yeah, it's wild.
We still haven't gotten any any answers on that guys, but we're.
We're noticing with no answer. Yeah, all right.
(04:52):
But back to the the fun part. Drew loves.
She loves a workplace dilemma. Oh, maybe it has something to do
with what's going on. No, just kidding.
She loves to be convinced. OK?
And she loves a candle. Cute.
She's a fire starter. Twisted fire starter.
In fact, I do know. No, no.
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No, no. All right, so should we get into
what's new with Drew now? Here we go with the news,
everybody. Yeah.
We don't have much to say, but this is sweet and great.
She is once again, an ambassadorfor Saint Jude's holiday
(05:34):
fundraising. You know, she's been involved
with them for years. Like, I feel like there were,
like, hospital visits and stuff like that that she'd done.
But this time around, we have a new photo in her shirt that says
this shirt saves lives. I think they, like, fundraise
with that. And then there's also a new
little commercial. She's got like, very 2007 hair
(05:55):
going on, like straightly parteddown the middle.
Right? Yeah.
It totally is like everybody's fine hair.
Right. Oh, I was thinking more, yes,
but I was actually thinking morelike music and lyrics.
Promo time. Yeah, we're a little bit.
She did that. Yeah.
So it's just like throwing me off because it doesn't look like
it's from now. It's it is kind of weird.
The commercial is really sweet. Of course, there are like
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multiple clips of other celebrities, but I like I like
seeing something new. I mean obviously of.
Course. And then like just to go along
with all that, she also Co hosted A Gladitude celebration
event at actress Marlo Thomas's house.
And Marlo is the national outreach director for Saint
Jude's. So they had like some patients
there and there's not a lot of info of what went on, but really
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nice that she's taking the time to do that.
Yeah, very much so. Very cool.
Saint Jude's doing good work out.
There Yeah, I've donated to them.
I'm sure I will again this year cuz it's just like, I like to do
that in December. Yeah, silly.
Like you could do it at any point, but you know, they're
like doing the outreach. So it's like, of course, let me
do that. Of course it's that time of
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year. Yeah.
OK, so totally changing gears. Should we get into some 1993
magazines? Well, 93 Guys was just so
delicious that we didn't get enough of it last episode in our
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year in review. I love delicious because that's
so true. And also I think we may be like
underestimated just how delicious.
I don't know. Yeah.
And they're going through these makes me realize like, no, I
don't think I underestimated it.I just always go like 9495 in my
head. That's true.
I would agree with that for sure, but 93 is beautiful and we
talked about both of these magazines briefly because their
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photos are pretty, pretty classic ones for Drew.
But the articles are both very short but really jam packed with
some fun info. So we're like, you know what?
We'll just do both of them cuz they're quickies and just kind
of use this as a companion pieceto our last episode.
Yes. And you know, while you're
listening to us talk about this,just pretend you're like holding
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the magazine in your hand. You know what a magazine feels
like. I actually have.
Hold on, You're next. You have the next two.
Well, I meant to scan them todayand I didn't get a chance, but I
have the papers. Nice people.
Can you do the magazines? Yes.
Because. I love paper.
Yeah, yes, we love it, rubbing it all over ourselves.
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But I just, I just have to pointout like the physicality of this
and that we are collectors and like that of course we have
these iconic pieces in our collection.
Yeah. I don't know, it's just, it's
just fun because I just go back to like, Oh my God, when I got
this, not that I remember the exact moment, but like being in
the collection is like such a huge part of our, I don't know,
our journey here. Ruby experience.
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I actually do remember getting the Vogue one like I do, exactly
where I was. So yeah, it was special.
That's so cool. OK, so let's start with 17
Magazine from May 1993. Should I jump in?
Let's do it. OK, So the photography for this
issue was done by Matthew Rolston.
This was their third photo shoottogether.
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It followed an interview magazine from 1991 and
Entertainment Weekly and 1982, and there were many more to
follow. Have we covered any of the
things that they've done before other than like briefly kind of
do you remember like. Doing a whole episode about 1.
Yeah. I don't know.
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And there's so many that they did together, but I don't think
we have. That's kind of weird.
Yeah, it's interesting because that name is so.
We say it a lot, right? I don't know.
So I'm sure we've probably covered some.
I guess that's what I wanted to say is like, I'm sure we've
mentioned this name a bunch. Yes.
She also attended a couple of events with him this year.
So it seems they had kind of like maybe a friendship had
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formed here. And not surprising, Drew loves
working with the same people andover and over again and.
Totally. And there were a couple of photo
shoots for this magazine. So this happens sometimes the
cover shoot is done separately in a studio and then like so
this is the situation like that I.
Can't I have to say it? It always kind of bothers me.
I'm such a weirdo. Like I'm like just, well, I'll
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be one thing together. You know, I think it's because
we like to organize yes, like visual of the thing together.
So it's like if the shoot, especially when the shoot is
done by a different photographer, like that's even
weirder. It happens though.
I know. I mean, I guess sometimes
though, it's like I'm, I'm way more annoyed if it's a, if they
use a photo shoot from like an existing thing totally than I am
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if they're doing 2 new ones. But either way, it's, it is a
confusing thing for us as like organizers.
OK, so I'll just get a little bit into the cover shoot and
then we'll get into the other one cuz there's more.
For the cover shoot, the hair was done by, I don't know if
it's pronounced Samal or Kamal, not sure.
And then the makeup was done by Joanne Gare, who also did the
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makeup for the guests campaign the same year along with some
other shoots. And you reached out to Joanne.
Yeah, I did. She's super sweet on Instagram,
so I just asked if she had any memories from this, but she said
during this time period, I worked with Drew many times.
I loved her joyful energy, kind nature and professionalism.
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Yeah, kind comments corner. She also said for the 17 cover,
she was a delight to work with and a perfect canvas with her
youthful, beautiful pale skin. I believe we shot this with
photographer Matthew Ralston. Yep, around the same time we did
the guest campaign in 1993 with the photographer Wayne Maser.
I did several looks on her for this series, which I understand
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the photos are now considered iconic.
Additionally, I did several moreeditorials with Drew in the
ninetys all the way to around 2002.
Hope this is helpful. Thank you, Joanne.
And if you guys want to follow her, her Instagram is at Joanne
Gare. And is she still currently doing
makeup? Yeah, it looks like.
It OK cool that's cool so yeah we love having the little
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interactions that we can like share just a little like about
people but I love it's like we hear this like joyful energy,
kind nature and professionalism like professionalism in these
situations has been discussed and re discussed and.
I know I can't wait for the day we reach out to someone and
they're like, she was a horriblebitch.
I don't want to talk about it. She was so bad.
So terrible. So far it hasn't.
(12:26):
Happened exactly. All right, so let's get it to
the on location shoot, which this is what we remember more.
Yeah, I think so. And we'll get into that a little
bit more. So that for the on for on
location, the hair was done by Howard Barr and makeup by Beth
Katz. And the photo, the photos of
which there are many, were takenat two different locations in
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San Francisco, which I'm literally across the Bay from
right now. So it's kind of cool.
I didn't even think. About that.
And it was the City Lights Bookstore and Cafe Treest, which
you looked up and they look pretty much the same as they did
in 1993, which I love. Crazy I love first of all that
they're even both still in operation super cool and I found
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like pictures of them now where she took her photos and I mean
they even still have the little postcards on the wall in the
same spot like at the bookstore it's.
Just. Wild.
So maybe you can take a little trip across the Golden Gate
Bridge, do a little location scouting for us.
And then I just found that the musicians that are playing
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behind Drew, they're like a jazzmusicians.
And it's a group called the Brown Fellini's.
And according to their Instagram, they were also still
going strong as of 2023. So cool.
San Francisco is just like timeless, I guess.
Things just never go away. They're just like nothing
changes and they're literally still playing in cafe trees like
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they haven't left. That's what they mean when they
say like still going now, just so I I know we talked about bit
about the photographs in the 1993 episode, but what can we
even say about like, I don't know these.
Are really cool so it's supposedto be this is kind of the theme
it's called bohemian Rhapsody itsays berets and Burrows
cappuccinos and Kerouac back in the 50's the beat neck scene was
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more brains and brown and sleek was chic so it's just kind of
like I think it's. Supposed to be.
Poetry and cafe and, you know, beatniks and all that stuff,
which, cool, it totally comes across.
It totally comes across. She looks like she's from
another time. Every single.
I mean, I mean, all the picturesthat were printed, she's wearing
a different outfit. Yeah, gorgeous.
(14:35):
Like I mean the Marilyn Monroe hair like you can't that that is
their. Undeniable.
Undeniable. Yeah, Yeah.
And all the pictures on the inside are sepia tone, which I
think is such a cool thing. Of course I would love to see
them in color. Oh God, I never even thought
about that as a possibility, That's crazy.
Wonder if they were shot in black and white though.
Yeah. Probably back in that day,
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right? Yeah, probably.
I don't know. I mean they're I'm sure they
were shot on film 1993. Oh, for sure, yeah.
And we do have outtakes from this, like quite a few actually.
Thank God. Some really sweet ones, like I
feel like she looks pretty serious in all of the ones that
were printed. And then there are some like
with kind of like you get more of a Drew silliness coming
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through, like, yeah. That's so true.
What a great observation. You're right, because she is
laughing or being playful or silly and a lot of the outtakes,
but none of the ones that they printed, which we talked in our
last episode, we felt like they were going for a more like
mature version of her than what was normally in the press at
this time. Was the bad girl in the black
bra right? Right.
(15:38):
I mean, even I even feel like it.
I think we talked about this a little bit, but this doesn't
feel like a 17 magazine shoot because it feels so kind of
mature. Like I feel like, I don't even
know, like pluck almost like plucked out of Vogue, which
we'll get into, but it's more like a, it almost looks like a
high fashion shoot. Maybe that's also why these two
kind of go together so well for an episode, because they do they
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kind of like live in the same space for some, some way.
And the fact that there are like, like I don't know if we
mentioned, but so many of them were printed as a full page in
the magazine, which once again, if you guys can appreciate that,
it's probably because you are not paper collectors.
But like, yeah, I'll say it again.
I love. Paper.
Yeah. Yes.
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Especially full pages. Yes.
And then just the last little note that we have about this
photo shoot, I guess, is that there's one photo where she's
sitting on the countertop in thecafe, and that was used as like
the fan reply postcard for some time.
And I feel like we got a copy from Rob, maybe Rob Break.
Yeah. I think it did come from him.
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I know we have another one from like an older shoot so she would
like change them every once in awhile and then I don't even does
that exist anymore? Good.
Question, There used to be a thing guys where you sent fan
mail and you would get this likepre printed signed card back.
Oh my God, the first one I got in the mail.
I just remember that being so thrilling, which is so funny to
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think about. I know what mine was.
Mine was like a JTT thing and then I remember also writing to
Oh my God now I'm gonna forget the name of the actress who
played the girl he like kissed in Tom and Huck.
Rachel Lee Cook Rachel Lee Cook.I wrote to her and said like she
was really like. Bitch, why'd you kiss my man?
I. Think I was said you're so lucky
(17:24):
to have worked with him. And then I got like a fan reply
picture of her too. Anyway, this was such a thing
guys. And like, if you look in older
magazines, you'll see like a whole list of like, write to
your favorite celebrities. It's cool.
It was like definitely a good little operation they had going
the studio fan mail because like, come on, she's not gonna
be able to see all of these letters, but at least you would
(17:45):
get something back. It was just like a generic
thing, but it was really sweet. And yeah, we've got a handful on
the Dracium's website. So yeah, it's a fun, it's a fun
physical media thing. Of course it is.
All right. Should we get into this little
article? And I mean, little.
It's a page, but it's got some really great little chunks of
info that, you know, we all love.
Yeah. So this article was written by
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Kevin Koffler, and the interviewwas done on a rainy day inside
Drew's cozy West Hollywood apartment.
And it's kind of like we've beenworking sort of on this,
figuring out where she lived in the 90s, like early 90s.
It's very confusing. I think we are to understand she
lived in this apartment and thenshe moved to a house when she
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got the money from guests. It's kind of what she said.
So we're before that, and this is a very long little excerpt
here at the beginning, but it just sets the scene so
beautifully. I felt like we had to include.
It right we love these. So it starts.
Filled with the smoky haze of burning Jasmine incense, the
flickering flames and dancing shadows of votive candles, and
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the soft, groovy sounds of Digable Planets, the room
reflects the renewed sense of spirituality Drew says she has
experienced since her broken engagement to actor Jamie
Walters. And it continues, set against
the far wall, somewhat a lost among the piles of books on
dream interpretation, stocks of unread scripts, and a cornucopia
of art and craft supplies. Drew's enormous king size
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antique bed functions as the room's command central.
Spun from layers of feather and foam, the bed creates A cushion
which Drew says protects her from the rest of the world.
And she's right. Sinking into it is like floating
on a big white fluffy cloud. I love it.
It's. So cute.
I couldn't help but think of is it bizarre 96 where she like
(19:35):
brings JVM into the bed and I was just thinking like oh.
Buddy JVM, you're too right. Like I pictured it, like, did
she invite him in? That's where they did the
interview. Like, I don't know.
It's really cool. Yeah, I had to note like put a
little pin in the dream interpretation book because that
comes up in the next article that we're going to cover too.
I just think that's so funny, little crossover.
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I. Totally had a dream
interpretation book at one point.
The same of course, you could not be a teenager in the 90s
without one. Yeah, you put it next to your
amethyst stones, like you. Wake up in the morning, don't
forget your dream, Don't forget your dream.
Hurry, look it up. What's it mean?
Fantasy OK, so Drew tells a story of Jamie breaking up with
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via the phone three days before she was to return to LA from
Vancouver after filming The Amy Fisher Story.
We've mentioned this a couple times.
Like the third episode in a row.Right.
And I'm just like this reading it like, so we know that.
We also know this, but he moved out of the house by the time she
was back. So like basically separation
really no closure. Yeah.
(20:41):
She said that the time they spent apart really took a toll
in their relationship. Like she was working in
different places so they had a place together but weren't
really like, able to be together.
And Drew described the breakup, she said.
I've never felt pain like this in my entire life.
And. We've described this like we
think it's her first, like majorbreakup as sort of an adult,
even though she's still so young.
(21:02):
Yeah. She talked about that they tried
to like, date a little bit longer while they were living
apart and it just didn't work, she says.
I think multiple times that Jamie was like her best friend
that she had. And she feels like like really
pained that they're losing that.And she hopes they'd be friends
again one day, which didn't happen.
But we know they've encountered each other.
(21:24):
Yeah. I was like, I have to insert
this photo of her running into him in 1999 at a charity event
where she looks like just totally floored by seeing.
Yeah. Literally hands on her forehead
like, which is like, what? It's six years.
Almost. Yeah, that's crazy.
Feels like nothing on one thing.On the other, like so weird.
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Yeah. OK, so Drew explains that she's
working on her spiritual growth and changing her fashion style,
and this is kind of a fun quote from her.
She says I completely dressed inthe grunge look when I was with
Jamie. When we broke up, I burned all
my flannels and started to dresslike a girl again.
I took out my old Agnes B suits,bought some new dresses and
started wearing bell bottoms with vintage jackets.
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I think my look is 40s meets 70sand since I rarely go out at
night anymore, I dress up wherever I go.
Love it. It's a couple things.
I want to say, like the 40s meets 70s thing.
We actually bring that up when she does boys on the side.
Like I think she referenced thatand we were like, yes, that
totally makes sense, right. Yeah.
So I thought that was fun. I was.
(22:28):
Trying to remember where we've mentioned it because I was like,
we've totally mentioned it and we've, but we've both been like,
yes. That's it.
Yeah, exactly. I couldn't really find a lot of
evidence that I felt was like. Oh, she was so.
Grunge when they were together. But you know, maybe in her mind.
I also remember that quote. That thing about burning the
(22:49):
flannels was one of the trivia questions in that newsletter
that you and I met on. How funny.
Like the only thing I remember. I also just, like, can't picture
her doing that. Yeah, I kind of can, but I'm
also like, really? Did you burn them?
Maybe it's metaphorically, yeah.Yeah, she talks about kind of
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going out because we talked about in the previous episode
that she was more like homebody at this time and maybe like how
comfy her bed is isn't an indicative to a thing.
Yeah, that's I left that point. And this was like the first time
in her life pretty much that she'd been kind of a homebody.
Like from the time she got famous.
It was like, let's go out, let'sgo out, let's hustle.
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Hustle and also party, party, soshe says.
At this point in her life, she said the only club she likes to
go to these days is Sound Factory in New York.
She says it's fun because everyone is in their own world
and nobody bothers me there. It's a place I could do my own
thing and release about a year'sworth of tension in six hours of
dancing. So I looked that place up.
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I think it closed like 2 years after those, which is kind of
like sorry Drew Rep she. Says at home, her nightlife
usually consists of reading, writing, sewing, doing spin art
and painting with acrylics. Which is so cute.
I love it. I also like sewing.
Did she really sew? And then there's another quote
(24:14):
here, she said. After Jamie left I lost every
ounce of inspiration I had. I'd sit in bed with a pen in my
hand and stare at a blank piece of paper before saying forget
it. Recently it started to come back
so I've been on a creativity binge.
I spend 2 hours doing things like making clothes so I want to
ask I guess how soon after theirbreakup was like this?
Done yeah. So I mean it would have come out
(24:36):
in April and we believe they broke up in December so OK
Really. Pretty soon.
Yeah. Very fresh I I don't know that
image of her just like staring at a blank journal page like
made me so. Sad, yeah.
But yeah, it's still pretty fresh, yeah.
Totally. So she talks about how after the
successes of Poison Ivy, Gun Crazy and The Amy Fisher story,
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she feels like she is done playing nymphettes.
She says quote for now, I don't want to do anything sexual on
screen. I'm grateful to have the
opportunity to be selective, andI'm going to choose wisely.
It's kind of like I don't need to be doing a doppelganger shit
anymore. Yep.
Yep, no more bloody shower scenes for me.
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Why not? What's wrong with that?
So the article ends with Drew talking about trying to decide
what to do about her James tattoo.
So Drew had Jamie Walters name as James on her back, she says.
I haven't gotten it removed yet.Maybe finding out he's got his
covered up will give me the incentive to do it, not because
(25:43):
I'm following him, but because that would be a true indication
that it's time to move on. My mom is a total cynic about
love, but I never was before Jamie.
Now I understand her a little bit better.
That's how the article ends. And I also I always forget that
he has Drew's name. Yeah, we've, I don't think we've
ever seen it. So very random coincidence.
(26:04):
I was not looking for this, but in the last few weeks I found an
article that he mentions this. So he talks about in the N94
issue of YM, I guess he discusses like that.
His friends told him. Like don't get her name tattooed
across your back. You're going to regret it.
You're going to break up. Well, they were right, but he
(26:25):
says I had it touched up. It's not exactly gone, but the
specifics have changed. I would love to see a before and
after. Oh my God, I wonder if there's
anything out there. Well, we've talked about hers
before and after where she said that the ink just bled like his
name just became illegible. And we're we're not sure if
(26:47):
that's true because like, it wasshown on the Drew Barrymore Show
a couple years ago and it did not look like it bled it like
black. It was either blacked out or
they like photoshopped his out for the show.
Right. And I feel like we really
couldn't tell if it had been blacked out like with Photoshop
or blacked out with tattooing. But anyway, them having gotten a
(27:07):
name, their names on each other,it's just like shows how kind of
like intense that was. Right.
And they weren't even together that long.
It was like, right, Less than a year.
You know, it's just, well, but she's 17.
Like, of course that's what you're going to do when you
think you're going to marry thisguy.
Right. And she's always just like,
well, it's the whole father figure thing.
Nothing is a father, but just like it, you know, messes kids
(27:28):
up kids, it messes people up in relationships.
She's looking. At home, fries.
That's the kind of thing that messes kids up.
Perfect, perfect Ashley, you always got to bring out the Drew
quotes. They're in my brain all the
time. It's all I think about now.
You can even link it. The thing is a character, say,
(27:49):
to Drew's life. That's how embedded it is.
Yeah, True. All right, so we will get into
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Thank you. All right, so let's get back
into our coverage of these fun 1993 magazines.
And now we're going to take a look at Vogue from June 1993.
This one is not a cover feature,but there's so much drew content
in it. There even is 3 or 4 guest ads.
(29:15):
Do you remember that? They're in this issue?
So and these were like this is when they first started coming
out. So, man, what a magazine to get
back then as a fan. Like I said, I remember, like,
getting in the mail. I remember being in my room at
my dad's house and, like, it's finally here.
I'm being so precious about it. But Naomi Campbell is on the
cover. And last I looked, I was just
(29:37):
kind of like, browsing eBay. Yeah, they were expensive, like
$5070 for this issue. Yeah.
So good luck guys, if you don't have it already.
Wow. Yeah, crazy.
Kind of wild. So as we've mentioned many, many
times, this photo shoot was doneby Ellen von Unworth and this
was their first collaboration together and they would go on to
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do like 10 plus. So they work together a ton.
They always made beautiful images together.
They just have like a special chemistry when it comes to
taking pictures. You know, it feels like
beautiful is an understatement somehow.
Like it's we are obsessed with many of them.
We've done an episode. Go look it up, you've done an
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episode all about their staff together.
Yes, the hair for this one was done by Peter Savik and the
makeup was done by Tracy Martin.And these photos were taken in
New York in March 1993 and they were done at Coney Island and
then also at the Royalton Hotel in NYC.
So it's kind of fun because likethe last one, there's like two
different locations going on. And once I knew that, I could
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really start seeing that in the photos like, oh, these are from
the Coney Island batch and theseare from the hotel which.
Is so fun, right? Because I hadn't even actually,
when I look at them, I was thinking more.
I think we, when we mentioned inthe last episode, I was totally
just picturing Coney Island, like all the stuff outside.
And then I'm like, Oh yeah. But I feel like the ones that
are in my mind prominent from the hotel are outtakes.
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Interesting, OK 'cause I feel like the more glammed up ones
where she's in like silky robes and pajamas and also nothing at
all except for some really fun shoes.
Those I think are the hotel batch.
And then all the like, fun, playful outside ones are
obviously Coney Island. I I think the Coney Island ones
come to mind 1st and then it's like, Oh yeah, the one with the
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like her naked in the the sofa seat is like in that too.
Like I'm like, oh duh. Like I don't know, it's sort of
a it is anyway it is funded to identify that just like it is
like with guests, with the guests things.
Like. Here's there's a three different
places. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Anyways, so these are also stunning.
I mean, what did we say about the last ones?
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How do we even talk about this? I know we've talked about them
so many times. You guys will have, we always
say this, but we always have an episode page on how do you
drew.com where you can see all of the photos that we're talking
about today. So go check that out.
Yes, most of these are full pageas well.
Yes, Hell yeah. And then the very first one, I
was reading the credits. It's cute.
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It's her like running on the beach with the seagulls.
And those were her own combat boots, which she did wear a lot
at this time. So I thought that was really
neat. I love it.
And I also love that, like I waslooking closer at some of the
pictures and that one with the seagulls, I was like, oh, it
looks like she's like cold and wearing the jacket that she was
just like wearing on set. And that was just one of the
pictures. Like I love it.
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There's some really like just stunning pictures in this,
actually weirdly similar to the last ones.
A lot of them are not in color. Yeah.
And again, like sometimes I wonder is it like, like if you
look at People magazine from the80s, nineties, Yeah, they were
always black and white for the most part.
And then like it finally switched over.
Like, yeah, that's how old timeywe are.
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I guess that we like, we're growing up in the time that
magazines are like, keep it black and white, It's cheaper.
Yeah, So it's funny with these, like I feel like it's very
intentional, like anyway, yeah, I don't know.
I think one of the ones that's color where it looks like she's
sitting on like a merry go round, Yeah, is so vibrant that
it's almost like shocking compared to the other.
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Ones because I got that bold redand she's got bright red lips.
Yeah, it is so bright and so saturated.
Yeah. And she has bright red lips and
I guess both of the shoots, the one from Coney Island and the,
Oh yeah, hotel in New York, cuz there also is one color one from
the hotel as well. And it's so like dreamy.
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And I feel like that picture, she looks like an old movie
star. Oh, for sure, yeah.
The hotel ones are definitely giving old, you know, classic
Hollywood vibes. Just yeah, which she pulls off
so well, especially back in thisday.
Right. And and she has like kind of the
Marilyn hair again, like she hadin the 17 shoot.
I will say I feel like some of my favorite ones from the shoot,
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I sort of end up like forgettingthere from this.
So like the the one where we have this outtake and I think I
have it printed from some magazine that's like her back.
She's like sitting on the bed and you can see.
This beautiful shot of tattoos. Like I forget that that falls
within this photo shoot. Yeah, it feels like a totally
different vibe for sure. I really agree with that.
There's and the one with her behind the fence.
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Like kissing? Love, love.
We love these and yeah, I think,I wish I could remember, like I
said, the exact moment I got them, but I remember it was one
of those like, coveted. Absolutely.
Coveted. I will say this is going back to
the guest ads thing but I feel like I remember that the guest
ads are printed on like the front and back of each other and
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it may be some of these are too.And that bothered me cuz I don't
know. Cuz you want to.
Display both of them. Somehow you.
Can I mean you can, but you know, I don't know.
I just remember that about it. Love paper, but sometimes you
got to deal with what's on the back of the page.
You probably. Wanted to put them on your wall
let's probably and it was like shit, which one do I pick,
right? Probably I I don't I think by
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this time I probably wouldn't have put like the articles on my
wall cuz I like the the feature anyway.
Yeah, I don't think we can do justice for the visuals of like
either of these. So do please make sure you go to
our website and check out the episode page and enjoy them
because they're gorgeous, delicious, delicious.
Exactly, Exactly. OK, so let's jump into this
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article. So this was written by David
Handelman and I like how you said the beginning is kind of
confusing because it is a weird way to like start an article.
I probably read it like 4 times before I really understood what
was going happening. Right.
OK, so the article has a very weird and confusing opening.
(35:42):
I literally read it like 4 timesto try to understand what was
going on because it just drops us right in and says that Drew's
being schmoozed at the Russian Tea Room in New York City by
Broadway producer Fred Zolo. And he's apparently telling her
a story about how he and the like writer, director David
Mamet, and another director, Gregory Mosher, were considering
(36:05):
Drew for the lead in what I understood to be the film
adaptation of their play Oleana.So just there you go.
That's that's what I think was going on.
OK. And they were all apparently,
like discussing her age, like, oh, isn't she a little, isn't
she that little girl from ET? And one of them said, no, she's
a big girl now. And I just thought that was
(36:27):
like, gross. Right.
Like, just what a way to say that.
Yeah. And then, like, as all this is
being told to her, the author says that Drew quote, weathers
all of this with a trooper smile.
She's had a lot of practice and it just like that hit for me too
as like, oh, he's he was also thinking it was creepy.
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But Drew's like, totally dealt with this forever, so she knows
what to do. And probably once again, it's
like her professionalism is kindof numb, Like she knows how to
imagine having to know how to deal with like that.
I don't know. She's, she's got so much grace.
It's kind of amazing. And yeah, anyway, I just like
the rest of the article is so great.
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I'm like, why did we start with this weird tone here?
Like, yeah, I don't know. It's a choice.
Yeah, totally. The author kind of says that
everyone always asks how old Drew is because people associate
her with Gertie. So at this time it's like it's
closer to like her child stardom, you know, then we can
kind of like think about it's sort of wild.
(37:30):
Like we're we're just 11 years from ET.
So like, I know that feels like a lot, but it's like really
relatively not. So people think that she's older
than she is because of what she's gone through in her life.
We talk about this all the time.So the author kind of just like
lists a couple of things. Stardom, drugs, rehab.
The People cover story, which isabout the rehab that's selling
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autobiography. She's gone through being an easy
punchline, gay icon and comebackstar like this.
So she's gone through all that and she's what?
She's just turning 18, Yeah. It's a fun list honestly.
Like I hate to say the easy punchline is true sadly.
Like because at that time especially like oh 13 year old
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on drugs haha let's make fun of her, right?
There's no sympathy back then. And I found the gay icon part
kind of interesting because I agree.
But at this time, that feels like interesting that that was
noted, you know? Yeah, totally.
I mean, is it, do we, do we think it's because of like
Poison Ivy, her having kissed Sarah Gilbert and Poison Ivy, is
that what it was? Baby I didn't think about.
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That was it. The nudity with other women in
interview like what was. It Yeah, you're right.
I was thinking more like gay guys love her, but you're right,
it could be that. Both, it's both, right.
So just like one more thing about her age.
So she had just turned 18 earlier in the year and she just
says like it meant she could buycigarette.
Which like, imagine she's been smoking for eight years at this
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point, like and she's just getting them like without
legally being allowed to buy them.
Crazy. Right.
And before that, I'm sure it wasjust like nobody would question.
Yeah, she was turned on that charm.
Exactly. But she kind of explains like
technically she's been a legal adult since her emancipation at
age 15. So it's like weird.
And yeah, once again, how old isthis person I.
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Also, I've tried to understand it.
Look up what it means when you're emancipated.
There's some things you can do, but you still can't do other
things like buy cigarettes, right?
She says that she celebrated herbirthday by playing mini golf
with friends. So we kind of went into this
again with the last episode, butlike low key, you know, keeping
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it. Personally, private, simple
friends. Yeah, totally.
OK, so we get the usual, as we always do, back story about her
childhood. You know, there is a very brief
mention of her working at a video store, to quote,
experience what I thought was a normal life.
And I was like, oh, that's familiar.
So I went and looked. And in Little Girl Loss, she
mentions this as well. She says it was around age 12.
(40:06):
And I remember we were both justlike, what?
What? Yeah.
And she had to work there because Jade wanted her to earn
her own spending money and. Cuz she didn't earn any of that
other money, yeah. All the money you guys are
living on, Drew did earn, so OK.Yeah, OK.
And then the article also mentions Jay taking her to quote
(40:28):
the exclusive club Helena's to party with Jack and Angelica.
And that was fun to see because that was the unnamed club in
Little Girl Lost that we Id'd like it, that I figured out was
that place. So I was like, Yep, OK, I was
right. Yep, check.
Check. Yep.
And then it finishes with sayingwhile recovering, she lived
variously with boyfriends, whichpuke because she's like 14 or 15
(40:53):
years old. What the hell are we talking
about? And other adults, including
rehab singer David Crosby and his wife.
And then it says and former groupie Pamela Debarr.
And I don't think that's there'sa shred of like truth to that.
I've like because I remember Drew at one point was like
rumored to maybe be playing her in the movie about her life and
(41:15):
like it didn't sound like they knew each other at all.
But like Pamela was like she's the new age of groupies, you
know, was like when she was following whole around as we
mentioned. So this is just going to drop.
In there as if that's. Where that came from?
Yeah, It's so weird. That is so interesting.
OK, so then we are on the day ofthe shoot, cold and on the
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beach. So this is like you see it in
the pictures and I think I was mentioning she's like wearing a
jacket and the one with the seagulls In the article it says
Though her teeth chatter and herluminous skin starts to turn
blue, she never once complaints.In fact, she's exceedingly
polite, ardently thinking everyone who helps her or pays
her a compliment. And when she tosses some some
(41:57):
pieces of bagels at the birds, she seems genuinely shocked when
they immediately swarm around her.
Wow, she says with a beating smile.
They're all coming. They don't do this in LA.
I love the paragraph. Like, of course, of course she's
not complaining. She's professional, she's
polite, she's sweet. And of course Drew is the person
that appreciates seagulls. Like I'm always like they're.
(42:20):
Going to steal my food. Why are they swarming?
She's like please swarm. It's just so funny, so cute.
That's our girl. Her perching birdies.
Yeah, totally. So there's brief talk about her
time where she was snubbed by Hollywood.
She says. People wouldn't touch me.
They just thought I was some loser drug addict.
I thought I would never work again.
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Believe me, going from being themost famous child in the world
to doing an after school specialis kind of a bummer, which like
I like that she talks about thatbecause I don't feel like she
really ever has touched on, you know, the the after school
special, of course, is 15 and getting straight and she briefly
mentions in little girl loss, but not as like, wow, this look
(43:02):
how far I've. Come look at the like
juxtaposition, like that's pretty and here's like this girl
in whatever in fake rehab, but real rehab post real rehab.
Fake rehab post rehab at the real.
In the real rehab. So it mentions how instead of
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going down the like classic bad path for child stars, Drew
instead sobered up, rededicated herself, and reinvented herself,
eventually landing Poison Ivy and gun crazy.
And yeah, she did reinvent herself.
Yes, she was only 1617, but she reinvented herself as a sex
symbol because she knew that wasthe way to get away from the
(43:45):
child star. Yeah, she was right.
So it says that a week before filming Gun Crazy, she cut her
hair. I'll tell, I'll we'll talk about
this. But we think that might be an
exaggeration that it was a week before.
Yeah, based on another quote we have later on.
And also like, I just think that's an exaggeration.
Right, exactly. So anyway, it says she says 16
(44:07):
year old Drew and her roommate saw the movie 21 and we're so
charmed by Patsy Kensit's look that they cut off all their
hair. And it says Tamara Davis, who
was the director. She said the producers freaked
out, but I thought it was great.A stroke of genius.
It was so messed up looking thisdork looking haircut.
It was perfect for the character.
Which makes sense because the girl she plays in gun crazy is
(44:29):
like an outcast. She's not sexy and cool like
she's she's quote UN quote bad girl cuz she's like wrong side
of the tracks and she's right promiscuous, but it's because
she's been abused and like yeah,she's not the she's not like Ivy
right, Sure she they. Had to like it's it's actually
almost weird to like think that the girl who played Ivy and I
(44:50):
don't remember her name and gun crazy.
Anita. Anita so like that those are the
same person and within the shortamount of time like.
It's months apart. Right.
It's amazing. Can you imagine gun crazy with
her, like poisoning her? No, she did the right thing.
So she spoke about that in MovieLine 1992.
We have an episode about it's a really, really juicy article,
(45:11):
the juiciest article we've ever done.
If you guys really want some dirt.
But she says in that when I was getting ready for my second
audition on gun Crazy, which I believe that makes a little more
sense to me, she says, in which the girl is going to find cool
because she's so uncool. I thought, what if I'm just sexy
with all this hair? And what if the producers think
I can't do the role because I have long hair?
(45:33):
So I took scissors and cut it all off.
It's also like her saying it that way, like she would dare to
risk it is also like, what was the real decision?
Like, yeah, kind of wild. It's pretty.
Fun though. Yeah, it is.
It is very fun. So she debuted the short hair at
the premiere of My Own Private Idaho on October 11th of 1991.
(45:53):
And we believe that Gun Crazy was filmed sometime in November,
so. So makes a little more sense.
I don't think like, she'd be about to go in front of the
cameras and be like, surprise, right, Right.
Yeah, exactly. So we get into Drew's usual self
deprecating talk about not thinking that she's a good
actress and how she'll never talk about like, quote, UN quote
(46:15):
craft or like motivation in the way that somebody who's like
very, what do they call that method acting?
Yeah. So she says I just have a good
ability at adapting characters and becoming them.
I appreciate technical actors, but I'm different.
I want to have a personal, emotional, physical freedom.
Never hold back. It is funny how she's always
kind of talked about like method, but then I feel like
(46:37):
when she did like writing cars with boys, she almost kind of
did method. I would say that in Grey Gardens
are the exception. But other than that, I mean,
even as recently as the last fewyears I've heard her say on her
show like, oh, I'm, I don't think I'm a good actress.
Like I just know how to become other people, which is kind of
funny. It's like, well, but that's kind
of what it is. That is, that is the task.
(46:58):
It's almost like how she doesn'twant to put the label of sober
on herself. It's like it comes with a
heavier connotation than just being like, oh, I just know how
to play characters. All right, I love this part.
I love this little collection of.
Oh, my gosh, yeah. This is what it's all about.
The tidbits galore. And the author just starts
running them down. And This is why do we love it so
much? I don't know.
(47:19):
I always have, you know, just occurred to me.
I almost could trace it to the old Drew fan sites that Missy
Monday ran. She had something called the
Kooky Fax Jar. Yes.
Remember this? And you would click and it'd be
a picture of Drew with one little fact, and then you'd
click and then change to a new one.
And I almost wonder if that's like where this comes from for
(47:41):
me. So deeply ingrained that we're
like lists of little facts. Anyway, talk about our website
again. We've got a Drew Detail section
of the Drewzian where we've got just like lists of facts.
Yep, and it was totally inspiredby the kooky facts.
And yeah, we call it Drew details.
And it's just a huge list of these kinds of fun things.
So let's talk about what is mentioned in this article.
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So she claims to be anemic, claustrophobic and insomniac.
And we like the sleep thing has always been an issue for her.
Yep, she hates regret. But later on she apparently says
she regrets having pierced each ear with four holes.
She thought her BMW was too prissy, and now she loves her
(48:25):
prize possession, her Bronco, which of course we've talked
about last episode as well. Yep, she owns a 357 Magnum gun
and that might feel a little weird to you guys, but in
details 1993 she says it was a gift from Jamie, so I think.
It's weird still. Like I'm like what?
It is still weird. I think it's one of those Jamie
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like remnants. I, you know, I think that cross
necklace you wore all the time in 92 is from him.
I think these were like things that were like, oh, Jamie gave
this to me and then like he's gone and eventually those
things. Circle.
Those things faded away as well.Burn the gun with the flannels.
I feel like it's like a very, like, I had a very like, like, I
forgot, probably read it multiple times.
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I've been like, whoa. It just seems very weird for
her. Yeah.
She talks about the mixing of styles of 1940s and 1970s with
thrift store fines. And she says that she likes to
wear this Dolce and Gabbana quote UN quote happy hat and
platform shoes. And you pulled a picture of a
hat that she wore. This is an issue where like
multiple times. That maybe is the one right?
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Is that a beret? Yeah, it's not the only one I
could think. Well, I think it's actually a
little bit more like a newsboy cap, because I searched Dolce
and Gabbana hats from that time and I think she's just wearing
it backwards. Backwards.
Yeah. Yeah, it's kind of fun.
She says her idea of fun is playing pinball at 7:11, and she
said she once ran into the director, John Singleton playing
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pinball. Which is so weird because as we
mentioned in our last episode, this same year in 93, they like
share a cover of a magazine called Dirt or Drew's the top
half and his face is the bottom half.
It's like kind of. Funny, maybe they decided when
they met each other. So like, hey, do you know Spike
Jones? Me too.
Let's do this word cover together.
Do you want to be the bottom half?
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I'll be the top half. I don't know.
Let's get it. I mean.
Then she says that she's superstitious and mentions over
the course of a few days that she had wished on a planet,
visited A psychic, monitored hermood ring and consulted her
dreamology book. Oh, there's that book we were
talking about. And here's the like little kind
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of tidbit about, like, looking up a dream.
She said that she had looked up a dream about pizza with sour
cream and peas and found out that peas indicated good luck,
and soon after she booked the guest campaign.
She's psychic Psychic PCR. Have your peas on your pizza and
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then star in Guess Jeans PF stream.
OK and then she said that her few wrinkles make her make her
worried that she'll age as fast as her dad, which it's just like
what you have such a baby face first of.
All what wrinkles? Yeah, and in 93?
(51:18):
And second of all, her dad. Like come on girl, you're OK.
But then we love when she mentions your dad because it
always results in some kind of like, amazingly fun exploration
of that relationship. Yeah.
So she says. It's strange because I see a lot
of similarities between US, and I usually groove hard on the
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type of free spirit. He is someone who travels around
with a duffel bag, rides a bicycle, and doesn't wear shoes
because it believes it's not right.
But he's also tormented and fucked up, doesn't have his life
together and never wants to get it together.
And I can't stand quitters. He had an amazing career ahead
of him and shitted all the way on drugs.
Maybe I did too, but I realized it and learned from my mistakes.
(52:03):
Oof oof is right. So many it like sums it all up
right there. It does.
She doesn't really elaborate on it, but she does that.
She says that her and her mom don't really speak and that it's
probably just a phase. Which, as we all know, Nope.
That phase, they're still in it.I know like the only little
interruption of that phase was when she was with Tom Green and
(52:26):
briefly they reconciled. But other than that, like from
as far as we know, like 90 late 92 on, her and Jade were no
longer speaking. Yep.
So the article ends with Drew talking about how she loves to
visit her family, stars on the Walk of Fame, which it's neat to
think like she was still 10 plusyears away from getting her own.
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So it's just like, oh, my family's here.
And she talks about how she always kisses her grandfather's
profile in the cement outside the Chinese Theatre, which is so
sweet and also so gross when youthink about all this going to
say. I hope every time she wiped it
off beforehand or maybe it's literally on the ground.
Kiss her hand and then put that on on the ground that I could
(53:08):
deal with, all right. But she says it has nothing to
do with being starstruck. It's kind of pathetic.
It's the only link I have to them because I want to have a
family. I'm sure I won't feel I have one
until I have my own SOB. I know.
And then she continues. When I was younger, I felt, how
can I live up to my family? I'm Hollywood royalty, me, a kid
(53:32):
who eats macaroni and cheese. It made me nervous.
I never or wanted to let them down, have people say God this
acting dynasty, what the hell happened to their granddaughter?
But I finally decided God is notgoing to come down and punish me
if I don't do them justice. I can only try and that's where
we end. It's kind of interesting too.
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I don't feel like she ever really talks about the pressure
of being from this grand acting family, you know?
Like she's. Always embraced it, which is
awesome. But yeah, there is like people
looking at you like, oh, are yougoing to be the next big amazing
actress, you know? Right.
OK, yes. What ends that way, which again
is like it's hopeful. We like when she's thinking in
(54:15):
this way. There's a letter to the editor
that was printed in a later issue and it said thanks for the
article on Drew Barrymore. She's a wonderful actress and
person. She seems like the sweetest
woman on earth, and I give her much credit for her four years
of sobriety. That's so sweet.
That's nice. So sweet.
So. Sweet.
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Another little piece for the Kind comments corner.
Yeah, yeah, I liked this little.I mean, we love an excuse to go
through these. I think I like doing the
articles because that's like, I think I already said it, but
like it gives us an excuse to like go into some of the little
details. Yeah, and there's always things
that I forgot. Even as many times as I've read
some of these, especially the ones from the 90s, I always come
(55:00):
away going like, oh whoa, I forgot about that little thing.
I mean, I guess also I realized it's like one of the only times
we get her voice because it's that and it's like interviews on
shows, which you haven't really jumped in too much in our
podcast, but that's why it's so fun.
We get to like, explore her as aperson and not as the thing
she's pretending to be. Right.
(55:22):
Especially the ones that like are in her normal life.
Those are our favorites, which they're like at her house or
they're hanging out at a restaurant together, or she's
opening up her purse and showingthem all the contents.
Like, right. You know, we love Drew the
actress, but we love Drew the person even more.
This kid who eats macaroni and cheese.
Yeah, it's like. I love that.
I love that. Like she still is that kid
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eating macaroni. She's still that kid.
She's probably, you know, like one of the reasons she is so
playful and fun is I feel like she still is that little girl,
but also she had to be an adult so early that she like taps into
that kid and lives her childhood.
That's why her age never makes sense.
Right, because she's also five. She never got to be 5 or 6 years
old. Too much stress on her, too much
(56:05):
career. Too much earning the money for
her family household. You got to learn how to earn
your own money. What?
What have I been doing since the80s, Mom?
All right, thanks to you guys for being here.
We really appreciate you guys. Sometimes we're like, we're just
(56:27):
this little podcast no one listens to, but then we'll get
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Let's keep going. Yes.
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And I guess we will see you all next Tuesday, y'all.
Yeah, yeah. OK.
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Bye. Bye.
Bye. Thanks.
This episode of the How Do You Drew podcast was researched and
produced by Ashley and Anne fromthedrazium.com with help from
our sponsor, Positive Medium. Special thanks to Matt Costa for
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our lovely theme song, Roxy Prima for our adorable logo, and
last but not least, Drew Barrymore and all the Drewbies
who love her. We do this for you.
Thank you.
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