January 29, 2025 • 27 mins
Ever wondered how a preschool orientation could spark a lifelong friendship? Join us in Episode 68 of "How I Met My BFF" as Leisa and Tamara sit down with the dynamic duo, Jenny Harkleroad and Kelli Russell. This episode kicks off with Leisa announcing her debut in stand-up comedy, before diving into the heartwarming tale of how Jenny and Kelli met. From Jenny's humorous "stalking" at the gym to their shared love for handstands and lunch dates, their story is a testament to the unexpected ways friendships can blossom.
Discover how their bond has not only enriched their personal lives, but also fueled their professional journeys where they both help humans make massive life transformations. Get ready for laughter, inspiration, and a reminder of the power of being open to new friendships. Look in the show notes for the links to Kelli's podcast, "Radical Enlightenment," and Jenny's Leap Transformation app.
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Leisa (00:01):
Hey, besties. My name is Leisa.
Tamara (00:03):
And my name is Tamara, and we're BFFs.
Leisa (00:06):
Tamara and I met when we were about 12 years old growing
up in good old Fairbanks,Alaska.
Tamara (00:11):
And we've been best friends forever since.
Leisa (00:13):
That's right. And that's why we've decided to have some
fun, friendly conversations withthe bestest of best friends.
Tamara (00:18):
We'll talk about how we became best friends, our
experiences together, and haveother best friends on the show
to share how they met. Whoknows? You never
Leisa (00:27):
know when you'll meet your next BFF.
Tamara (00:30):
Now let's get into it, how I met my BFF.
Leisa (00:34):
Welcome to another episode of how I met my BFF. Hi,
Tamara.
Tamara (00:40):
Hey, Lisa. How's it going?
Leisa (00:42):
It's good. I'm still on a little bit of a high from last
weekend. I had a birthday.
Tamara (00:50):
Yes.
Leisa (00:51):
Happy birthday. As many years old as there are cards in
a deck, and I did a thing. I dida stand up comedy debut, and it
was I did it knowing that like,I was like, if I'm gonna have a
birthday party, like, I'm justgonna have it around my birthday
(01:11):
because then that way, everyonecould get together and that'll
be, like, quote, unquote, theparty. And it was so fun. It was
so fun to have everyone there.
Because usually when I speak,I'm not speaking to friends and
family. I'm speaking tostrangers or people in business
that I, you know, I might knowsome people, but a lot of times,
it's strangers. And so it wasreally cool to be on stage for
(01:34):
my friends and family. Andluckily, I was funny. I mean,
they thought it was funny, sohopefully, it's true.
And I just had a really goodtime. Everyone was laughing. It
was just it really it I someonesaid, how did it go? And I said,
honestly, I think it went betterthan I could've ever imagined.
Like, it just minus the Netflixexecutive sitting there going,
(01:55):
we need to put a show on foryou.
I that was the only thingmissing, really. I think it just
went really, really well,considering it was my very first
time. I mean, sure. If I lookback a year from now after, you
know, maybe I'll have moreexperience in comedy. I don't
know.
I'm sure they'll be like, oh,there's things I coulda done,
but I was really proud ofmyself. And so I'm gonna give
(02:17):
myself a pat on the phone.
Jenny Harkleroad (02:18):
I'm proud of you.
Tamara (02:19):
I can't wait to see it. I'm sorry I wasn't able to be
there in person, but I'm sureyou kicked butt as usual.
Leisa (02:28):
Yes. It was so fun. So yeah. It was it was like this
challenge. I think I think Ican't remember if I had
mentioned it on the show, butthere was a woman in my audience
who had seen me, and she's acomedian.
And she's like, you should youshould consider doing this. And
I thought, no. No. No. No.
No. And then I'm like, well,maybe, yes. Why is this
opportunity showing up for me?And I just said, okay. I don't
(02:52):
know what I'm gonna talk about,but I'll do it.
And I started to really writedown and catalog, I guess, the
things that I thought were funnyin my mind that I usually don't
record. You know? I I mean, Idon't mean record video. Just
like I don't even write it down.I just it's like Tuesday, and I
forgot it by Wednesday.
So it was it's really cool, andit's created a new habit for me
(03:14):
of of starting to jot thosethings down even if it doesn't
make complete sense yet. Sothat's kinda cool.
Tamara (03:21):
Well, congratulations, and happy birthday.
Leisa (03:24):
Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. And someone else's
birthday is coming up.
Tamara (03:28):
Older than me right now. So
Leisa (03:29):
I know. Yes. Poke it in. One. We've got another month a
little less than a month to go.
Yeah. Well, we have some amazingBFF guests today. We've got
Jenny Harkleroad and KellyRussell. Welcome, Jenny and
Kelly. Thank you.
Happy to be here.
Kelli Russell (03:47):
Nice to meet you guys.
Leisa (03:48):
Yeah. We're so excited. I I've known Jenny, full
disclosure to our besties, I'veknown Jenny for, gosh, probably
10 years or so. I mean, it'sbeen a while. Definitely before
the pandemic.
I know that. But I thought, oh,cool. I can't wait to meet
Jenny's best friend. This isgonna be awesome. So, Kelly, why
(04:14):
don't you let us know how didyou and Jenny meet?
Like, what's your perspective ofhow you met?
Kelli Russell (04:20):
2 different places. 1 was at our children's
preschool. At the first day thatwe arrived orientation, and then
also through a gym, where I wasa teacher and she was going into
the class after me and we would,cross paths. So it was just an
instant connection and likingright off the bat.
Leisa (04:40):
Oh, cool. And then what about you, Jenny? Is that how
you remember it or do you haveany other perspectives you wanna
add?
Jenny Harkleroad (04:47):
Yeah. I remember the first time I saw
her, she was in the playgroundplaying with her daughter. It
was at at that same orientation.And you know how they say, like,
birds of a feather flocktogether or you're like the
people you hang around? Well,Kelly is super fit.
And when I saw her, I was like,I wanna be that fit someday. So
maybe if I hang out with thatlady, I'll look like that
(05:08):
someday. I remember thinkingthat. And then I remember trying
to catch her eye to, like, sayhi in a playground, and she was
super focused on her daughterand didn't know I existed. And I
was, like, staring at her.
So I thought, oh, I'll catch herlater. And I went down, I
started talking to this superfriendly guy, and then she comes
down, turns out the superfriendly guy was her husband.
Kelli Russell (05:29):
So Oh my gosh.
Jenny Harkleroad (05:30):
That was my first, recollection of Kelly and
wanting to get to know her.
Leisa (05:34):
Oh, that's so fun. Your your your intuition was guiding
you correctly. Yeah. And somaybe, Kelly, tell us a little
bit about how then it went fromthis could've been a completely
random meeting. Maybe itcould've just happened one time
and you never talked again, butsomething happened where you
started to develop a friendship.
Kelli Russell (05:56):
Well, I remember Jenny started coming to my class
after a while. And Iparticularly remember we wanted
to learn how to do handstandstogether. So I had this idea
that after class, we would justgo to this wall and pop up for
30 seconds and do handstands.So, like, for a year. So, after
class, we'd try our littlehandstand.
(06:17):
And I don't know. We startedgoing to lunch on Wednesdays.
Became a regular thing. And justimmediately like a consistent
friendship. And what it turnsinto now is we just love to go
on walks and hikes together andjust be out in nature and just
talk about life.
So that's what it's morphedinto.
Leisa (06:36):
That's beautiful. How about you, Jenny? What how did
what's your perspective of howthe friendship started to
develop?
Jenny Harkleroad (06:43):
I would say I stalked her a little bit.
Leisa (06:46):
This is where we're getting the real truth here,
y'all. Breaking news.
Jenny Harkleroad (06:52):
I wanted to be your friend, but again, like,
how do you go from high to,like, you know, let's hang out
together. And I remember I wasjust kind of, like, literally
brainstorming. How am I gonna,like, get to know this lady? And
she gave me an invitation to herdaughter's birthday party for my
son. And I was like, oh, now Ihave her phone number.
Okay. Okay. We're making
Leisa (07:14):
progress. Address, maybe.
Jenny Harkleroad (07:17):
Yeah. And it helped that my son and her
daughter at 4 years old had thislittle thing. They liked each
other. Yeah. So that was anotherexcuse, like, hey, do you wanna
get together and let the kidshang out?
And I think we kinda helped eachother out a little bit. I was in
real estate at the time. I'd belike, hey. Can you pick up Josh?
Or, you know, she was teaching aclass.
Hey. Can you pick up Bry? So itkinda started like that.
Leisa (07:41):
Like, yeah, helping mom moms helping moms. Right? Yeah.
That's so funny. I had no ideayou were, that determined,
Jenny.
That's so funny. And then whendid it go to best friendship?
Because that's a different, youknow, iteration then of of a
relationship.
Kelli Russell (07:59):
I felt
Leisa (07:59):
like I was
Kelli Russell (08:00):
yeah. Almost immediately. I don't know how. I
just it just morphed and gelledso well that it was just so
easeful. There was no friction.
It's always been easeful. I'mjust so appreciative of the
friendship. It's been a reallyconsistent positive force in my
life. And Jenny is just one ofthose people that lights up the
(08:23):
world. So to be able to havethat consistent friendship is
just beautiful and lucky.
Leisa (08:30):
Alright. Lucky. We're lucky.
Kelli Russell (08:32):
Yeah. Thanks, Gil. Yeah.
Leisa (08:35):
How about you, Jenny? What what for you shifted to
best friendship?
Jenny Harkleroad (08:42):
Yeah. Excuse me. You know, Kelly is, like,
the best listener I've ever metin my life, and it was so
refreshing to have somebody whowould listen and not judgmental
at all and very logical. And sothe things I would share with
her were just like, I could sayanything, and I just felt so
(09:02):
comfortable with her. And Iremember one time we were we
would work out a lot together.
We were at 24 Hour Fitness, andwe're walking up the stairs and
and I said, hey, I wanna tellyou something. And I was behind
her. She immediately stopped andturned around and stared at me
on the staircase. And I'm like,what what what's going on? And
she's like, well, you said youwanted to say it?
(09:23):
Tell me something. I was like,well, I I mean, it doesn't have
to be right the second on thestairs, like, in the middle of
stair traffic. Like, that's justhow she is. And, I felt like I
never had anybody that wouldlisten like that before. And so,
usually, I'm I'm a little Imean, I'm not shy on stage.
I'm not shy networking. But ifI'm in a crowd, it's just, like,
friendly. I'm pretty quietusually. And I felt like every
(09:46):
time I got around Kelly, I wasjust I couldn't stop talking.
And it was just like, I felt socomfortable with her.
Leisa (09:53):
That's beautiful. Yeah. Wow. Is there anything that you
I guess, I'll bring it back toKelly. Like, what would you say
are the things you love theabsolute most about Jenny?
Kelli Russell (10:13):
She has no limiting beliefs. She is the
most positive person I know. Themost confident, the most
inspired, the most driven.Anything that she can think of
she can manifest. She buildsthings on the way.
So if somebody asks her to dosomething and she's interested
in it. She'll immediately sayyes without like if they'll say,
(10:36):
oh, do you have a program forsuch and such? Oh, yeah.
Totally. I can have that.
And meanwhile, she needs todevelop it in like, it's not
developed yet. She'll just sayyes and figure it out and
immediately put somethingtogether and it'll be brilliant.
So it's kind of like one ofthose things where she will jump
out of an airplane and build herwings on the way out. And it's
(10:57):
totally opposite from the way Igo about things. And to me, it's
so inspiring and refreshing.
And to have, like, a a realliving model of that to show me
that that's possible is just soinspiring. And just the kindest,
sweetest, go getter you wouldever meet. Thanks. That's
(11:20):
awesome.
Leisa (11:20):
Appreciate that. Yeah. From what I know that sound,
that tracks. I always say, like,don't be fooled. She's quiet,
but she's fierce.
Like, she she's gonna get itdone.
Kelli Russell (11:30):
Oh, for sure.
Leisa (11:32):
I love that. What about you, Jenny? What do you what do
you wanna oh, sorry, Tamara. Goahead. Yeah.
Go ahead. Oh, I can end updominating the conversation,
obviously. So, Jenny, what aboutyou? What do you love about
Kelly? I mean, you alreadyshared some things.
But
Jenny Harkleroad (11:49):
Yeah. Yeah. Definitely her listening, her
her caring. She's interested inanything I have to tell her. You
know?
And and she's very smart andthoughtful. She'll ask me a ton
of questions, and she always hasme thinking of things in a new
way. And so it's always like,how did you come up with that?
(12:09):
That was so smart. Why didn't Ithink of that?
Constantly, I'm thinking thatwhen she talks to me. So, and
her logic, it's just I feel likeI'm more of an emotional person
even though I maybe don'trespond that way on the outside.
I kind of take things moreemotionally on the inside, and I
feel like she's super logicalabout things. So it's like,
woah. You know, if there's thisproblem, here's, like, 5
(12:31):
solutions, so let's focus onthat.
And, you know, just very logicallogically minded, and I've
always thought that was soamazing because it's like, I I
don't think that way. So I Ilove it. I've learned from her.
Leisa (12:47):
And it's interesting because it sounds like when you
first met, you weren't doing thesame careers that you're doing
now. Yet what you do now is Idon't know if it's exactly the
it's not exactly the same, butin a similar realm. Right? How
did that how did the businesspart develop, like, separately,
(13:09):
but you guys are kind of on asimilar journey, maybe? I'm not
really sure.
Kelly, do you wanna chime in forthat?
Kelli Russell (13:15):
It's super entwined. My my background
before I met Jenny waspsychology, marriage and family
therapy. And then I was teachingyoga and meditation. Jenny had
an injury where she broke herback. And, they opted not to do
(13:35):
surgery, but she was airliftedoff a mountain.
And I watched her for 2 yearstry to heal herself, from sports
kinesiology, painful massagewhere they're rolling the
ligaments and tendons,osteopathic doctors. And then
she went into Eastern medicine,you know, like acupuncture,
(13:58):
acupressure. How do I treat thisholistically? And nothing
worked. She ended up doingsurgery, pain pills.
That didn't work. And she foundthis emotional kinesiologist,
this doctor who gets into thesubconscious mind to figure out
what's going on. And within afew sessions, her pain went
away. And so me with mybackground, I was like, what is
(14:20):
this magic? What just happened?
And I watched her struggle andthen I watched the pain
disappear. So it changed Jenny'slife completely to where she
became a subconscious changefacilitator. She offered me and
Kevin, my husband, complimentarywork because she was learning
(14:41):
these skills. And then I noticedlike our relationship started
changing. I started changing.
I started hearing about thesuccess of all the people that
Jenny was working with. And Iwas like, there's something
here. I need to learn this. AndI didn't wanna copy Jenny just,
you know, as a copycat. But Iwas so inspired.
I started studying 36 differentmodalities of energy healing and
(15:05):
subconscious change. And I endedup with 2. And one was the one
that Jenny initially offered us.And then one was separate. And
then we just kind of split off.
You know, Jenny went more intothe business of how do people
and she helps people of alltypes, but definitely those in
business. And then I kind oftook mine to work
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interpersonally with withothers. But it's because of my
inspiration of Jenny's story andher offering to let us
experience it. That's why I dowhat I do now.
Leisa (15:38):
Wow. That's crazy. Like, I love that story. I mean, that
wasn't even an expectation ofyour friendship, you know, that,
oh, wow. We're both gonna havethese different completely
different careers, and one'sgonna affect the other.
And wow. That's like an extrabonus gift I from from your
(16:00):
friendship.
Jenny Harkleroad (16:01):
That's incredible. Amazingly, not only
did Kelly start doing this typeof work, so did her husband.
Yeah. Crazy.
Leisa (16:08):
And you guys and you guys have a podcast about it. Right?
What's the podcast called? Yeah.
Kelli Russell (16:12):
It's called Radical Enlightenment. Yeah.
Leisa (16:15):
And the 2 of you co host together?
Kelli Russell (16:17):
We actually do. We had a couple together, but we
individually, work with whateverwe find inspiring. Like, he
might find something that hethinks is interesting that's in
the realm and then I might. Sowe kind of alternate.
Leisa (16:31):
Oh, that's cool. Mhmm. It's neat. Yeah. So, Jenny, how
about you?
I mean, Kelly kinda shared yoursome of your story, which I
already knew I already knew thatpart. But for you, how was it,
like, shifting what you're bothdoing and then it shifting your
careers as your friendship? Idon't to me, that's an
(16:53):
incredible story. Yeah. How wasthat for you?
Jenny Harkleroad (16:55):
It's so fun because we were just interested.
We are interested in the sametype of things. And so it's
fascinating to share what we'relearning, what we're
experiencing, what our clientsare experiencing, and just the
power of the mind and what youcan do. So it it just gives us
something that we can talk aboutforever because there's so many
things that we're interested inthat are the same. So it's
(17:18):
really fun.
Leisa (17:19):
And for our besties who are probably going, wait, what
is this subconscious changemaker? Like, what what is the
modality? What is the thing? Howdo I get what do Jenny, how do
they get what you're doing?Because I've experienced it
myself.
I've had sessions with you, andI have your app, and I recommend
it to people all the time. Sotell us tell us more about that.
Jenny Harkleroad (17:40):
Awesome. Thank you. You can find me at
balancedyou.org. That's mywebsite. And I have an app, and
it's called leap transformation,leap like a frog, and it's in
the App Store and Play Store.
It's an advanced mindsetcoaching app, so you can go
there to solve your problems,achieve your goals, work on
personal growth. It's a littlesecret to your success in your
(18:03):
back pocket.
Leisa (18:04):
What I like about it is that it's it sounds like too
good to be true, but it's it'sreally cool how it works. I
mean, Jenny is there. Mhmm. Andit's so smart that you can put
in, like, I'm it's like, what'swhat are you working on today?
Oh, I'd like to work on weightloss or I'm stressed out.
(18:26):
I have an emotional issue or Ihave a business goal. Whatever.
It could be money. It could befeelings. It could be something
fun.
It could just be like, I used itone time when I was getting
ready to lead a meeting and Iwas, like, feeling particularly
tense. And I'm like, I'm justgonna put my Leap transformation
app on, and I wanna feel calmand grounded. And I ran through
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it, and I was like and it was socool because a whole bunch of
tech issues happened during thatmeeting, and I was cool as a
cucumber. And and it but so Imean, it's hard to imagine that
that could happen for someonewho's never dove into personal
development or this kind of kindof work, but it was so cool. And
(19:12):
Other things too, but but it'sreally fascinating.
Jenny Harkleroad (19:15):
Thanks, Lisa. That's the power of your
subconscious mind. Change thingsso fast.
Leisa (19:20):
Well and I mean, Tamara and I, you know, I I grew up
with my dad as a hypnotherapist.So I was I know how to hypnotize
myself since I was, like, alittle kid and I'm, you know,
pretty well versed in thatconcept. Like, that's not, like,
foreign to me. I grew up withthat, but I don't really wanna
go into a hypnotic state to getthat all the time. You know?
(19:43):
So so it's it's fascinating thedifferent, modalities that are
available now that as they'reresearching how the brain works
and neural pathways. I, like, Ithink that's awesome. So if you
can get that in, like, 12minutes, some of your sessions
are, like, 8 minutes, 12minutes, whatever. I think
that's powerful. And I I don'tknow, Kelly, what your
(20:03):
modalities are.
You have another one that youuse, but, I just love it. I wish
everyone had that. I mean, like,kindergarteners, preschoolers
could could do this to 90 yearolds. It's not it's it's it can
be available for everybody.
Kelli Russell (20:17):
Yes. I I love that you just said that. I have
98 year old sorry. 8080 7 yearold clients that are husband and
wife. They started to coming tome when they were 86.
But they said, like, 95% of ourrelationship is really good, but
we wanna change that little 5%.And we have these death spiral
(20:38):
arguments.
Leisa (20:39):
Mhmm.
Kelli Russell (20:39):
And we were able to, through a few sessions,
change that. And they're like, amiracle has occurred. In the 60
something years that we've beenmarried, we no longer do that.
So it's like an ability tochange an old pattern to do
something different after allthose years. That's what's so
awesome about getting into thesubconscious and creating those
(21:00):
changes.
Leisa (21:01):
I love it. I love their enthusiasm. It's like I've been
dealing with this problem for 60years and I'm not taking it
anymore. Like, if even if welive one more year, it would I
just I love that. I love that.
Kelli Russell (21:15):
I know not only that they would wanna change
even the 5%, but at, like, atany age, you can create a shift.
And we're always learning andevolving and growing, so that's
inspiring in so many ways to me.
Leisa (21:28):
Yeah. It just takes the decision. Well, it's not I mean,
to be willing, to be open, to becurious, to try something
different, try something new.I'm reading a book right now and
or listening to it on Audible.And at the beginning, he's like,
okay.
This is gonna sound reallyunorthodox. This is not like
anything you you've ever heard,and I'm just asking that you
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trust me. And if you go throughthe process and you it doesn't
work, go and live your life. Dowhatever you need to do. But
just for this this book, are youwilling to follow my lead?
And I'm like, yeah. Let's do it.Yeah. So but that willingness
and curiosity isn't we don't allhave that. Tamara, did you wanna
(22:13):
say anything?
I've been chitty chatting thewhole time. She's like, no. No.
You're on mute.
Tamara (22:25):
The questions I was going to ask were kind of
already answered, but I guess,just a little bit back to best
friend situation. If you guyswere together after we get off
of this podcast, what would yougo do for fun together?
Jenny Harkleroad (22:42):
Well, you wanna share?
Kelli Russell (22:45):
We would go for a hike. Yep. We're always looking
for new places around, our city.So usually, we're doing a little
bit of research. We find somecool unique spot.
We walk for hours. We talk aboutlife. We share stories. We we
talk about clients sometimes ifwe have something tough going
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on. We offer each other feedbackor advice.
And it's just great. Like,there's something so healing
about that. Just being outside,fresh air with a person who's
awesome, just listening andtalking. You know? And there's
something about, like, themovement that's it's just all
flowing.
So that's what I like to do.
Leisa (23:26):
Love it. Oh, and I think our besties might wanna know. So
I'm assuming that you did learnhow to do the handstands after
all that practice.
Kelli Russell (23:35):
Yes.
Leisa (23:36):
Yes. Okay. Good.
Jenny Harkleroad (23:37):
Kelly Kelly definitely did. I broke my back
somewhere in that practiceprocess and and got off that
bandwagon, but Kelly's themaster handstander now.
Kelli Russell (23:47):
No. Jenny had it. Jenny Jenny was holding it. She
had it too. It was fun.
Leisa (23:52):
And to be fair, you know, you didn't break your back
trying to get handstands. Oh,no. Just in case anyone's
confused. I feel a little
Jenny Harkleroad (23:59):
bit of my head one time. Remember?
Leisa (24:02):
Yeah. I
Jenny Harkleroad (24:02):
was upside down, and Kelly was like, point
your toes more. Like, I was sofocused on my legs that I forgot
to keep the arms strong. Andbefore I know it, I was sliding
down the wall and we were
Leisa (24:16):
That's funny. Good for you for trying. I love the
dedication. Yeah. I grew up as agymnast, so I was always upside
down as a kid.
Like, you could not keep meright side up. But, you know,
body change. I can still dohandstands now, but my body
definitely knows how to do itmore than I mean, like, my
memory of how to do it isintact. The ability, because I
(24:40):
don't do it very often, a littlebit rougher than how I'd like it
to be. But I could try it.
Yeah. You can try that. Get itback. Now that I'm I'm feeling
inspired, thank you for sharingyour beautiful story. I love
hearing how you met pretty Imean, it you don't end up
(25:01):
becoming best friends with everysingle person at who's a parent
at your school, you know, or aday care or at the gym.
But there was a spark there.Jenny, you followed your
intuition. Kelly, you you therewas something within you. You're
like, yes. And the kids helped.
I mean, in the and then look atlife, how it how it turned out,
and you're both helping so manypeople. I love it. Keep going
(25:24):
on, and we just reallyappreciate you sharing your
story.
Jenny Harkleroad (25:28):
Now those it's a graduated high school. Little
preschoolers. It's crazy howtime flies.
Leisa (25:35):
I know. They get older and we don't. It's amazing.
Jenny Harkleroad (25:38):
Thank goodness that we don't.
Kelli Russell (25:40):
I think it's so cool. It's such a great reminder
too because, you know, I have aa lot of clients who come and
they're, like, moving to a newplace or they wanna meet new
people or they want new friendsor they've evolved and they're,
like, I'm not really fitting inwith my old group anymore. But
just to be able to go up tosomebody and start a
conversation or ask them, do youwanna hang out? Would you like
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to go for a walk? Do you wannago grab a coffee?
Would you like to go to lunch?And like, Jenny was so inspiring
and and taking that first moveto actually say the thing that
we wanna say that we'reembarrassed to say sometimes.
So, that's just a great reminderfor all of us. Like you see
somebody cool and you're like,oh, she looks like he or she
looks like a cool friend. I'mjust gonna go up and talk to
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them.
I'm gonna ask them to to go outand do something. So I love
that, Jenny. Thank you for beingthe the instigator.
Leisa (26:31):
Catalyst. Yeah. I love it. Yeah. Alright, besties.
If you're out there and you'rewanna find another bestie that
you heard it here. Go go invitesomeone to lunch. Alright. We'll
see everyone on the nextepisode. Thank you.
Bye. Hey, bestie. Thanks forlistening. If you like this
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love to hear about it.
Tamara (27:15):
Definitely. And, hey, maybe we'll have you on our next
episode.
Leisa (27:20):
That would be awesome. Until next time.
Tamara (27:23):
Love you, BFFs.
Hey, besties. My name is Leisa.
Tamara (00:03):
And my name is Tamara, and we're BFFs.
Leisa (00:06):
Tamara and I met when we were about 12 years old growing
up in good old Fairbanks,Alaska.
Tamara (00:11):
And we've been best friends forever since.
Leisa (00:13):
That's right. And that's why we've decided to have some
fun, friendly conversations withthe bestest of best friends.
Tamara (00:18):
We'll talk about how we became best friends, our
experiences together, and haveother best friends on the show
to share how they met. Whoknows? You never
Leisa (00:27):
know when you'll meet your next BFF.
Tamara (00:30):
Now let's get into it, how I met my BFF.
Leisa (00:34):
Welcome to another episode of how I met my BFF. Hi,
Tamara.
Tamara (00:40):
Hey, Lisa. How's it going?
Leisa (00:42):
It's good. I'm still on a little bit of a high from last
weekend. I had a birthday.
Tamara (00:50):
Yes.
Leisa (00:51):
Happy birthday. As many years old as there are cards in
a deck, and I did a thing. I dida stand up comedy debut, and it
was I did it knowing that like,I was like, if I'm gonna have a
birthday party, like, I'm justgonna have it around my birthday
(01:11):
because then that way, everyonecould get together and that'll
be, like, quote, unquote, theparty. And it was so fun. It was
so fun to have everyone there.
Because usually when I speak,I'm not speaking to friends and
family. I'm speaking tostrangers or people in business
that I, you know, I might knowsome people, but a lot of times,
it's strangers. And so it wasreally cool to be on stage for
(01:34):
my friends and family. Andluckily, I was funny. I mean,
they thought it was funny, sohopefully, it's true.
And I just had a really goodtime. Everyone was laughing. It
was just it really it I someonesaid, how did it go? And I said,
honestly, I think it went betterthan I could've ever imagined.
Like, it just minus the Netflixexecutive sitting there going,
(01:55):
we need to put a show on foryou.
I that was the only thingmissing, really. I think it just
went really, really well,considering it was my very first
time. I mean, sure. If I lookback a year from now after, you
know, maybe I'll have moreexperience in comedy. I don't
know.
I'm sure they'll be like, oh,there's things I coulda done,
but I was really proud ofmyself. And so I'm gonna give
(02:17):
myself a pat on the phone.
Jenny Harkleroad (02:18):
I'm proud of you.
Tamara (02:19):
I can't wait to see it. I'm sorry I wasn't able to be
there in person, but I'm sureyou kicked butt as usual.
Leisa (02:28):
Yes. It was so fun. So yeah. It was it was like this
challenge. I think I think Ican't remember if I had
mentioned it on the show, butthere was a woman in my audience
who had seen me, and she's acomedian.
And she's like, you should youshould consider doing this. And
I thought, no. No. No. No.
No. And then I'm like, well,maybe, yes. Why is this
opportunity showing up for me?And I just said, okay. I don't
(02:52):
know what I'm gonna talk about,but I'll do it.
And I started to really writedown and catalog, I guess, the
things that I thought were funnyin my mind that I usually don't
record. You know? I I mean, Idon't mean record video. Just
like I don't even write it down.I just it's like Tuesday, and I
forgot it by Wednesday.
So it was it's really cool, andit's created a new habit for me
(03:14):
of of starting to jot thosethings down even if it doesn't
make complete sense yet. Sothat's kinda cool.
Tamara (03:21):
Well, congratulations, and happy birthday.
Leisa (03:24):
Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. And someone else's
birthday is coming up.
Tamara (03:28):
Older than me right now. So
Leisa (03:29):
I know. Yes. Poke it in. One. We've got another month a
little less than a month to go.
Yeah. Well, we have some amazingBFF guests today. We've got
Jenny Harkleroad and KellyRussell. Welcome, Jenny and
Kelly. Thank you.
Happy to be here.
Kelli Russell (03:47):
Nice to meet you guys.
Leisa (03:48):
Yeah. We're so excited. I I've known Jenny, full
disclosure to our besties, I'veknown Jenny for, gosh, probably
10 years or so. I mean, it'sbeen a while. Definitely before
the pandemic.
I know that. But I thought, oh,cool. I can't wait to meet
Jenny's best friend. This isgonna be awesome. So, Kelly, why
(04:14):
don't you let us know how didyou and Jenny meet?
Like, what's your perspective ofhow you met?
Kelli Russell (04:20):
2 different places. 1 was at our children's
preschool. At the first day thatwe arrived orientation, and then
also through a gym, where I wasa teacher and she was going into
the class after me and we would,cross paths. So it was just an
instant connection and likingright off the bat.
Leisa (04:40):
Oh, cool. And then what about you, Jenny? Is that how
you remember it or do you haveany other perspectives you wanna
add?
Jenny Harkleroad (04:47):
Yeah. I remember the first time I saw
her, she was in the playgroundplaying with her daughter. It
was at at that same orientation.And you know how they say, like,
birds of a feather flocktogether or you're like the
people you hang around? Well,Kelly is super fit.
And when I saw her, I was like,I wanna be that fit someday. So
maybe if I hang out with thatlady, I'll look like that
(05:08):
someday. I remember thinkingthat. And then I remember trying
to catch her eye to, like, sayhi in a playground, and she was
super focused on her daughterand didn't know I existed. And I
was, like, staring at her.
So I thought, oh, I'll catch herlater. And I went down, I
started talking to this superfriendly guy, and then she comes
down, turns out the superfriendly guy was her husband.
Kelli Russell (05:29):
So Oh my gosh.
Jenny Harkleroad (05:30):
That was my first, recollection of Kelly and
wanting to get to know her.
Leisa (05:34):
Oh, that's so fun. Your your your intuition was guiding
you correctly. Yeah. And somaybe, Kelly, tell us a little
bit about how then it went fromthis could've been a completely
random meeting. Maybe itcould've just happened one time
and you never talked again, butsomething happened where you
started to develop a friendship.
Kelli Russell (05:56):
Well, I remember Jenny started coming to my class
after a while. And Iparticularly remember we wanted
to learn how to do handstandstogether. So I had this idea
that after class, we would justgo to this wall and pop up for
30 seconds and do handstands.So, like, for a year. So, after
class, we'd try our littlehandstand.
(06:17):
And I don't know. We startedgoing to lunch on Wednesdays.
Became a regular thing. And justimmediately like a consistent
friendship. And what it turnsinto now is we just love to go
on walks and hikes together andjust be out in nature and just
talk about life.
So that's what it's morphedinto.
Leisa (06:36):
That's beautiful. How about you, Jenny? What how did
what's your perspective of howthe friendship started to
develop?
Jenny Harkleroad (06:43):
I would say I stalked her a little bit.
Leisa (06:46):
This is where we're getting the real truth here,
y'all. Breaking news.
Jenny Harkleroad (06:52):
I wanted to be your friend, but again, like,
how do you go from high to,like, you know, let's hang out
together. And I remember I wasjust kind of, like, literally
brainstorming. How am I gonna,like, get to know this lady? And
she gave me an invitation to herdaughter's birthday party for my
son. And I was like, oh, now Ihave her phone number.
Okay. Okay. We're making
Leisa (07:14):
progress. Address, maybe.
Jenny Harkleroad (07:17):
Yeah. And it helped that my son and her
daughter at 4 years old had thislittle thing. They liked each
other. Yeah. So that was anotherexcuse, like, hey, do you wanna
get together and let the kidshang out?
And I think we kinda helped eachother out a little bit. I was in
real estate at the time. I'd belike, hey. Can you pick up Josh?
Or, you know, she was teaching aclass.
Hey. Can you pick up Bry? So itkinda started like that.
Leisa (07:41):
Like, yeah, helping mom moms helping moms. Right? Yeah.
That's so funny. I had no ideayou were, that determined,
Jenny.
That's so funny. And then whendid it go to best friendship?
Because that's a different, youknow, iteration then of of a
relationship.
Kelli Russell (07:59):
I felt
Leisa (07:59):
like I was
Kelli Russell (08:00):
yeah. Almost immediately. I don't know how. I
just it just morphed and gelledso well that it was just so
easeful. There was no friction.
It's always been easeful. I'mjust so appreciative of the
friendship. It's been a reallyconsistent positive force in my
life. And Jenny is just one ofthose people that lights up the
(08:23):
world. So to be able to havethat consistent friendship is
just beautiful and lucky.
Leisa (08:30):
Alright. Lucky. We're lucky.
Kelli Russell (08:32):
Yeah. Thanks, Gil. Yeah.
Leisa (08:35):
How about you, Jenny? What what for you shifted to
best friendship?
Jenny Harkleroad (08:42):
Yeah. Excuse me. You know, Kelly is, like,
the best listener I've ever metin my life, and it was so
refreshing to have somebody whowould listen and not judgmental
at all and very logical. And sothe things I would share with
her were just like, I could sayanything, and I just felt so
(09:02):
comfortable with her. And Iremember one time we were we
would work out a lot together.
We were at 24 Hour Fitness, andwe're walking up the stairs and
and I said, hey, I wanna tellyou something. And I was behind
her. She immediately stopped andturned around and stared at me
on the staircase. And I'm like,what what what's going on? And
she's like, well, you said youwanted to say it?
(09:23):
Tell me something. I was like,well, I I mean, it doesn't have
to be right the second on thestairs, like, in the middle of
stair traffic. Like, that's justhow she is. And, I felt like I
never had anybody that wouldlisten like that before. And so,
usually, I'm I'm a little Imean, I'm not shy on stage.
I'm not shy networking. But ifI'm in a crowd, it's just, like,
friendly. I'm pretty quietusually. And I felt like every
(09:46):
time I got around Kelly, I wasjust I couldn't stop talking.
And it was just like, I felt socomfortable with her.
Leisa (09:53):
That's beautiful. Yeah. Wow. Is there anything that you
I guess, I'll bring it back toKelly. Like, what would you say
are the things you love theabsolute most about Jenny?
Kelli Russell (10:13):
She has no limiting beliefs. She is the
most positive person I know. Themost confident, the most
inspired, the most driven.Anything that she can think of
she can manifest. She buildsthings on the way.
So if somebody asks her to dosomething and she's interested
in it. She'll immediately sayyes without like if they'll say,
(10:36):
oh, do you have a program forsuch and such? Oh, yeah.
Totally. I can have that.
And meanwhile, she needs todevelop it in like, it's not
developed yet. She'll just sayyes and figure it out and
immediately put somethingtogether and it'll be brilliant.
So it's kind of like one ofthose things where she will jump
out of an airplane and build herwings on the way out. And it's
(10:57):
totally opposite from the way Igo about things. And to me, it's
so inspiring and refreshing.
And to have, like, a a realliving model of that to show me
that that's possible is just soinspiring. And just the kindest,
sweetest, go getter you wouldever meet. Thanks. That's
(11:20):
awesome.
Leisa (11:20):
Appreciate that. Yeah. From what I know that sound,
that tracks. I always say, like,don't be fooled. She's quiet,
but she's fierce.
Like, she she's gonna get itdone.
Kelli Russell (11:30):
Oh, for sure.
Leisa (11:32):
I love that. What about you, Jenny? What do you what do
you wanna oh, sorry, Tamara. Goahead. Yeah.
Go ahead. Oh, I can end updominating the conversation,
obviously. So, Jenny, what aboutyou? What do you love about
Kelly? I mean, you alreadyshared some things.
But
Jenny Harkleroad (11:49):
Yeah. Yeah. Definitely her listening, her
her caring. She's interested inanything I have to tell her. You
know?
And and she's very smart andthoughtful. She'll ask me a ton
of questions, and she always hasme thinking of things in a new
way. And so it's always like,how did you come up with that?
(12:09):
That was so smart. Why didn't Ithink of that?
Constantly, I'm thinking thatwhen she talks to me. So, and
her logic, it's just I feel likeI'm more of an emotional person
even though I maybe don'trespond that way on the outside.
I kind of take things moreemotionally on the inside, and I
feel like she's super logicalabout things. So it's like,
woah. You know, if there's thisproblem, here's, like, 5
(12:31):
solutions, so let's focus onthat.
And, you know, just very logicallogically minded, and I've
always thought that was soamazing because it's like, I I
don't think that way. So I Ilove it. I've learned from her.
Leisa (12:47):
And it's interesting because it sounds like when you
first met, you weren't doing thesame careers that you're doing
now. Yet what you do now is Idon't know if it's exactly the
it's not exactly the same, butin a similar realm. Right? How
did that how did the businesspart develop, like, separately,
(13:09):
but you guys are kind of on asimilar journey, maybe? I'm not
really sure.
Kelly, do you wanna chime in forthat?
Kelli Russell (13:15):
It's super entwined. My my background
before I met Jenny waspsychology, marriage and family
therapy. And then I was teachingyoga and meditation. Jenny had
an injury where she broke herback. And, they opted not to do
(13:35):
surgery, but she was airliftedoff a mountain.
And I watched her for 2 yearstry to heal herself, from sports
kinesiology, painful massagewhere they're rolling the
ligaments and tendons,osteopathic doctors. And then
she went into Eastern medicine,you know, like acupuncture,
(13:58):
acupressure. How do I treat thisholistically? And nothing
worked. She ended up doingsurgery, pain pills.
That didn't work. And she foundthis emotional kinesiologist,
this doctor who gets into thesubconscious mind to figure out
what's going on. And within afew sessions, her pain went
away. And so me with mybackground, I was like, what is
(14:20):
this magic? What just happened?
And I watched her struggle andthen I watched the pain
disappear. So it changed Jenny'slife completely to where she
became a subconscious changefacilitator. She offered me and
Kevin, my husband, complimentarywork because she was learning
(14:41):
these skills. And then I noticedlike our relationship started
changing. I started changing.
I started hearing about thesuccess of all the people that
Jenny was working with. And Iwas like, there's something
here. I need to learn this. AndI didn't wanna copy Jenny just,
you know, as a copycat. But Iwas so inspired.
I started studying 36 differentmodalities of energy healing and
(15:05):
subconscious change. And I endedup with 2. And one was the one
that Jenny initially offered us.And then one was separate. And
then we just kind of split off.
You know, Jenny went more intothe business of how do people
and she helps people of alltypes, but definitely those in
business. And then I kind oftook mine to work
(15:26):
interpersonally with withothers. But it's because of my
inspiration of Jenny's story andher offering to let us
experience it. That's why I dowhat I do now.
Leisa (15:38):
Wow. That's crazy. Like, I love that story. I mean, that
wasn't even an expectation ofyour friendship, you know, that,
oh, wow. We're both gonna havethese different completely
different careers, and one'sgonna affect the other.
And wow. That's like an extrabonus gift I from from your
(16:00):
friendship.
Jenny Harkleroad (16:01):
That's incredible. Amazingly, not only
did Kelly start doing this typeof work, so did her husband.
Yeah. Crazy.
Leisa (16:08):
And you guys and you guys have a podcast about it. Right?
What's the podcast called? Yeah.
Kelli Russell (16:12):
It's called Radical Enlightenment. Yeah.
Leisa (16:15):
And the 2 of you co host together?
Kelli Russell (16:17):
We actually do. We had a couple together, but we
individually, work with whateverwe find inspiring. Like, he
might find something that hethinks is interesting that's in
the realm and then I might. Sowe kind of alternate.
Leisa (16:31):
Oh, that's cool. Mhmm. It's neat. Yeah. So, Jenny, how
about you?
I mean, Kelly kinda shared yoursome of your story, which I
already knew I already knew thatpart. But for you, how was it,
like, shifting what you're bothdoing and then it shifting your
careers as your friendship? Idon't to me, that's an
(16:53):
incredible story. Yeah. How wasthat for you?
Jenny Harkleroad (16:55):
It's so fun because we were just interested.
We are interested in the sametype of things. And so it's
fascinating to share what we'relearning, what we're
experiencing, what our clientsare experiencing, and just the
power of the mind and what youcan do. So it it just gives us
something that we can talk aboutforever because there's so many
things that we're interested inthat are the same. So it's
(17:18):
really fun.
Leisa (17:19):
And for our besties who are probably going, wait, what
is this subconscious changemaker? Like, what what is the
modality? What is the thing? Howdo I get what do Jenny, how do
they get what you're doing?Because I've experienced it
myself.
I've had sessions with you, andI have your app, and I recommend
it to people all the time. Sotell us tell us more about that.
Jenny Harkleroad (17:40):
Awesome. Thank you. You can find me at
balancedyou.org. That's mywebsite. And I have an app, and
it's called leap transformation,leap like a frog, and it's in
the App Store and Play Store.
It's an advanced mindsetcoaching app, so you can go
there to solve your problems,achieve your goals, work on
personal growth. It's a littlesecret to your success in your
(18:03):
back pocket.
Leisa (18:04):
What I like about it is that it's it sounds like too
good to be true, but it's it'sreally cool how it works. I
mean, Jenny is there. Mhmm. Andit's so smart that you can put
in, like, I'm it's like, what'swhat are you working on today?
Oh, I'd like to work on weightloss or I'm stressed out.
(18:26):
I have an emotional issue or Ihave a business goal. Whatever.
It could be money. It could befeelings. It could be something
fun.
It could just be like, I used itone time when I was getting
ready to lead a meeting and Iwas, like, feeling particularly
tense. And I'm like, I'm justgonna put my Leap transformation
app on, and I wanna feel calmand grounded. And I ran through
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it, and I was like and it was socool because a whole bunch of
tech issues happened during thatmeeting, and I was cool as a
cucumber. And and it but so Imean, it's hard to imagine that
that could happen for someonewho's never dove into personal
development or this kind of kindof work, but it was so cool. And
(19:12):
Other things too, but but it'sreally fascinating.
Jenny Harkleroad (19:15):
Thanks, Lisa. That's the power of your
subconscious mind. Change thingsso fast.
Leisa (19:20):
Well and I mean, Tamara and I, you know, I I grew up
with my dad as a hypnotherapist.So I was I know how to hypnotize
myself since I was, like, alittle kid and I'm, you know,
pretty well versed in thatconcept. Like, that's not, like,
foreign to me. I grew up withthat, but I don't really wanna
go into a hypnotic state to getthat all the time. You know?
(19:43):
So so it's it's fascinating thedifferent, modalities that are
available now that as they'reresearching how the brain works
and neural pathways. I, like, Ithink that's awesome. So if you
can get that in, like, 12minutes, some of your sessions
are, like, 8 minutes, 12minutes, whatever. I think
that's powerful. And I I don'tknow, Kelly, what your
(20:03):
modalities are.
You have another one that youuse, but, I just love it. I wish
everyone had that. I mean, like,kindergarteners, preschoolers
could could do this to 90 yearolds. It's not it's it's it can
be available for everybody.
Kelli Russell (20:17):
Yes. I I love that you just said that. I have
98 year old sorry. 8080 7 yearold clients that are husband and
wife. They started to coming tome when they were 86.
But they said, like, 95% of ourrelationship is really good, but
we wanna change that little 5%.And we have these death spiral
(20:38):
arguments.
Leisa (20:39):
Mhmm.
Kelli Russell (20:39):
And we were able to, through a few sessions,
change that. And they're like, amiracle has occurred. In the 60
something years that we've beenmarried, we no longer do that.
So it's like an ability tochange an old pattern to do
something different after allthose years. That's what's so
awesome about getting into thesubconscious and creating those
(21:00):
changes.
Leisa (21:01):
I love it. I love their enthusiasm. It's like I've been
dealing with this problem for 60years and I'm not taking it
anymore. Like, if even if welive one more year, it would I
just I love that. I love that.
Kelli Russell (21:15):
I know not only that they would wanna change
even the 5%, but at, like, atany age, you can create a shift.
And we're always learning andevolving and growing, so that's
inspiring in so many ways to me.
Leisa (21:28):
Yeah. It just takes the decision. Well, it's not I mean,
to be willing, to be open, to becurious, to try something
different, try something new.I'm reading a book right now and
or listening to it on Audible.And at the beginning, he's like,
okay.
This is gonna sound reallyunorthodox. This is not like
anything you you've ever heard,and I'm just asking that you
(21:49):
trust me. And if you go throughthe process and you it doesn't
work, go and live your life. Dowhatever you need to do. But
just for this this book, are youwilling to follow my lead?
And I'm like, yeah. Let's do it.Yeah. So but that willingness
and curiosity isn't we don't allhave that. Tamara, did you wanna
(22:13):
say anything?
I've been chitty chatting thewhole time. She's like, no. No.
You're on mute.
Tamara (22:25):
The questions I was going to ask were kind of
already answered, but I guess,just a little bit back to best
friend situation. If you guyswere together after we get off
of this podcast, what would yougo do for fun together?
Jenny Harkleroad (22:42):
Well, you wanna share?
Kelli Russell (22:45):
We would go for a hike. Yep. We're always looking
for new places around, our city.So usually, we're doing a little
bit of research. We find somecool unique spot.
We walk for hours. We talk aboutlife. We share stories. We we
talk about clients sometimes ifwe have something tough going
(23:05):
on. We offer each other feedbackor advice.
And it's just great. Like,there's something so healing
about that. Just being outside,fresh air with a person who's
awesome, just listening andtalking. You know? And there's
something about, like, themovement that's it's just all
flowing.
So that's what I like to do.
Leisa (23:26):
Love it. Oh, and I think our besties might wanna know. So
I'm assuming that you did learnhow to do the handstands after
all that practice.
Kelli Russell (23:35):
Yes.
Leisa (23:36):
Yes. Okay. Good.
Jenny Harkleroad (23:37):
Kelly Kelly definitely did. I broke my back
somewhere in that practiceprocess and and got off that
bandwagon, but Kelly's themaster handstander now.
Kelli Russell (23:47):
No. Jenny had it. Jenny Jenny was holding it. She
had it too. It was fun.
Leisa (23:52):
And to be fair, you know, you didn't break your back
trying to get handstands. Oh,no. Just in case anyone's
confused. I feel a little
Jenny Harkleroad (23:59):
bit of my head one time. Remember?
Leisa (24:02):
Yeah. I
Jenny Harkleroad (24:02):
was upside down, and Kelly was like, point
your toes more. Like, I was sofocused on my legs that I forgot
to keep the arms strong. Andbefore I know it, I was sliding
down the wall and we were
Leisa (24:16):
That's funny. Good for you for trying. I love the
dedication. Yeah. I grew up as agymnast, so I was always upside
down as a kid.
Like, you could not keep meright side up. But, you know,
body change. I can still dohandstands now, but my body
definitely knows how to do itmore than I mean, like, my
memory of how to do it isintact. The ability, because I
(24:40):
don't do it very often, a littlebit rougher than how I'd like it
to be. But I could try it.
Yeah. You can try that. Get itback. Now that I'm I'm feeling
inspired, thank you for sharingyour beautiful story. I love
hearing how you met pretty Imean, it you don't end up
(25:01):
becoming best friends with everysingle person at who's a parent
at your school, you know, or aday care or at the gym.
But there was a spark there.Jenny, you followed your
intuition. Kelly, you you therewas something within you. You're
like, yes. And the kids helped.
I mean, in the and then look atlife, how it how it turned out,
and you're both helping so manypeople. I love it. Keep going
(25:24):
on, and we just reallyappreciate you sharing your
story.
Jenny Harkleroad (25:28):
Now those it's a graduated high school. Little
preschoolers. It's crazy howtime flies.
Leisa (25:35):
I know. They get older and we don't. It's amazing.
Jenny Harkleroad (25:38):
Thank goodness that we don't.
Kelli Russell (25:40):
I think it's so cool. It's such a great reminder
too because, you know, I have aa lot of clients who come and
they're, like, moving to a newplace or they wanna meet new
people or they want new friendsor they've evolved and they're,
like, I'm not really fitting inwith my old group anymore. But
just to be able to go up tosomebody and start a
conversation or ask them, do youwanna hang out? Would you like
(26:01):
to go for a walk? Do you wannago grab a coffee?
Would you like to go to lunch?And like, Jenny was so inspiring
and and taking that first moveto actually say the thing that
we wanna say that we'reembarrassed to say sometimes.
So, that's just a great reminderfor all of us. Like you see
somebody cool and you're like,oh, she looks like he or she
looks like a cool friend. I'mjust gonna go up and talk to
(26:23):
them.
I'm gonna ask them to to go outand do something. So I love
that, Jenny. Thank you for beingthe the instigator.
Leisa (26:31):
Catalyst. Yeah. I love it. Yeah. Alright, besties.
If you're out there and you'rewanna find another bestie that
you heard it here. Go go invitesomeone to lunch. Alright. We'll
see everyone on the nextepisode. Thank you.
Bye. Hey, bestie. Thanks forlistening. If you like this
(26:52):
episode, be sure to hit thatsubscribe button to get notified
of new episodes and check outcool bestie gift ideas at how I
met my bff.com.
Tamara (27:00):
That's right. And also, leave us a review. Those reviews
help us out a lot and are one ofthe best ways to support us.
Leisa (27:07):
Yes. And if you have a fun story about how you met your
BFF, send us an email at info athow I met my bff.com. We would
love to hear about it.
Tamara (27:15):
Definitely. And, hey, maybe we'll have you on our next
episode.
Leisa (27:20):
That would be awesome. Until next time.
Tamara (27:23):
Love you, BFFs.
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