November 13, 2024 • 26 mins
Ever wondered how a psychic and a natural connector could form an unbreakable bond? Join me as I fly solo in this episode of "How I Met My BFF," while Tamara is off on an exciting adventure. Dive into the enchanting story of Carrie Roldan and Rachel Archelaus, whose friendship blossomed from an online entrepreneurial community.
From Rachel's psychic insights to Carrie's vibrant energy, discover how they navigated initial apprehensions to build a friendship rooted in shared values and mutual growth. Hear about their pivotal disagreement that only strengthened their connection and how they keep the bond alive across states using Marco Polo.
Tune in to explore the magic of unexpected friendships, and who knows, you might just be inspired to share your own BFF story with us!
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Leisa (00:01):
Hey, besties. My name's Leisa.
Tamara (00:03):
And my name's Tamara, and we're BFFs.
Leisa (00:06):
Tamara and I met when we were about 12 years old growing
up in good old Fairbanks,Alaska.
Tamara (00:11):
And we've been best friends forever since.
Leisa (00:13):
That's right. And that's why we've decided to have some
fun, friendly conversations withthe bestest of best friends.
Tamara (00:18):
We'll talk about how we became best friends, our
experiences together, and haveother best friends on the show
to share how they met.
Leisa (00:26):
Who knows? You never know when you'll meet your next BFF.
Tamara (00:30):
Now let's get into it, how I met my BFF.
Leisa (00:34):
Welcome to another episode of how I met my BFF, and
it's just me, Lisa, here today.My cohost, Tamara, is at a very
important event. So I have somevery exciting best friend
guests, that I can't wait foryou to meet. But before we get
into that, I just wanna let youknow that one of my dreams came
(00:57):
true. I was able to be a blondefinally, which is something I
always wish I could be, but myeyes are brown.
My eyebrows are brown. I mean,it's it's just doesn't work. It
doesn't work. But for Halloween,it sure did. And so I found this
dress on, like, a clearancerack.
It was, like, used to be a $125,and it was $15. And it was this
(01:17):
bubblegum pink dress that wasfluffy and and frilly and,
happened to fit perfectly. AndI'm like, I can make a costume
out of this. And so I did mylittle chat GPT. I said, what
costumes would be great for abig, pink, fluffy dress?
(01:37):
And one of the answers was theperfect answer, and it was
Barbie. And so then I got mylong blonde wig and dolled it
up, and I got to wear my fancygold shoes and my fancy jewelry
that I already have because I'mkinda like a Barbie girl living
in a Barbie world anyway. So,now the kicker to this is that
(02:00):
my husband and I were going to aHalloween party, and it was
mandatory to dress up. Myhusband, not so much a dresser
upper, definitely not forHalloween, and he is a golf
instructor. So I thought, wow.
All you need to do is put avisor on, and you can be golf
Ken. So there we had it. He washappy. I was happy. Everyone was
happy, and we got to be Barbieand Ken for Halloween.
(02:22):
So we had fun. We had fun. Butand we'll have to hear if if
Tamara got to do anything funfor Halloween. But I would love
to introduce our guests today.We've got Rachel and Carrie.
Welcome to the show.
Rachel Archelaus (02:36):
Yay.
Carrie Roldan (02:38):
Thanks for having us.
Leisa (02:39):
You. Yes. So, I'd I'd love to hear how you met. Who
wants to kick us off?
Carrie Roldan (02:48):
I think it would be fun if you went first,
Rachel.
Rachel Archelaus (02:51):
Oh my gosh. Okay. Well, Carrie and I met
because we both joined an onlinecommunity meant to introduce
entrepreneurs, and I joinedbecause I am dreadfully
introverted and the idea thatsomeone else could gather people
so that I could meet them wasfabulous. Carrie is just a
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people person and a connector,and so I'm not sure why she
joined probably just to meetmore people. But, anyway, she
found me in there, made, anappointment to talk to me.
And my first impression ofCarrie when she called me was
like she was in her car. I couldhear the wind coming through the
speakers. She was probably,like, driving her kids
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somewhere, and she was having totalk really loud. And I was
like, who is this person? Whatis she doing?
Why are you calling me now?Right? Like so I was just blown
away by her energy and herenthusiasm, and, and I was like,
what am I gonna make of her?She's she's amazing. So that's
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how I met Carrie.
Carrie Roldan (03:59):
Wow. Rachel, I don't remember. I I do remember
talking to you from my car. Iremember getting my kids out of
my car, like, talking to you inthe but I don't remember that
being our first meeting. Andmaybe that's because so this
community that we joined, therewas, like it was it was forever
(04:20):
ago.
But there was, like, a Facebookgroup where you were supposed to
introduce yourself and saythings about yourself, and I may
have learned about you throughsomebody else or, like, had some
sort of exposure to Rachel. Sowhat I knew about Rachel when I
when we had that call andbecause was that the call was I
inviting you to be on my show?
Rachel Archelaus (04:40):
I think you were just introducing yourself
to me. I'm not sure if you wereinviting me or not. I don't
remember.
Carrie Roldan (04:46):
Well, regardless, I knew Rachel was psychic, and
so I was afraid to talk to herbecause I thought that she would
read my mind. I thought that shecould see right through me. I
thought that she could see myevery insecurity, my, like and I
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consider myself a really genuineperson, but the thought that
someone could see in there,really freaked me out. So that's
what I remember about thatconversation. And then she told
me that she ran track in highschool, And so that was, like,
our little connection pointbecause I'm a cross country and
track coach.
And so yeah. But I I was sointrigued by Rachel. She had a
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program at the time, soulcentered boot camp or soul
centered business boot camp, andthat is what I wanted. So I had
joined that community because Iwas brand new in starting I I
wanted to be a life coach. Mybusiness has evolved since then,
but that still is really at atthe core of what I do.
And I was like, where do I findpeople who want life coaching?
(05:52):
And so I was in that group forthat. And then, I met Rachel,
and I remember I I the so ourfirst, like, real in person
encounter was virtual. Weactually that's a whole another
story about our first real inperson encounter. But our first
virtual encounter was I used tohave a, a Google Hangout on air
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show.
And, I invited Rachel to be onit, and the title of that show
had something to do with findingyour purpose. And so I wanted
Rachel to, like, help me find mypurpose. So that's why we were
there.
Leisa (06:31):
I love that. Wow. Okay. I'm like I probably have, like,
50 questions. That's so cool.
So had you never had anexperience with a psychic
before, or, like, what was whatled you to have those
trepidations? Yeah.
Carrie Roldan (06:47):
I had had, an experience with a psychic, and
it was someone who like, afriend had recommended saying
that you had to do this, and itwas sort of like a novelty.
Like, I I loved my experience. Iwas like, this is the coolest
thing ever. But there'ssomething about Rachel, and
you're probably experiencing itnow. Like, she has this
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penetrating aura, like this andand almost zero affect.
Like, when she's listening,she's just sort of blank. And I
think because I am such a peopleperson and I'm such a reader of
other people, Rachel freaked meout because she was reading me,
I think, or she was just, like,more of a blank slate. And so I
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was a little intimidated bythat. She's a she's Rachel is a
highly evolved being, and I'veevolved a lot since then. But at
the time, I was just feeling allsorts of insecurity.
Leisa (07:42):
Oh my gosh. I love that. Rachel, did you know that she
was feeling that way?
Rachel Archelaus (07:50):
No. I mean, because if my superpower, right,
is my, all knowing nature,which, you know, I'm joking.
Carrie's superpower is her warm,welcoming personality. So I was
just sort of blown away by herenergy where she was like,
uh-oh. What is she thinkingabout me?
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And I was just thinkingwonderful things.
Carrie Roldan (08:12):
Aw.
Leisa (08:13):
Isn't that funny? I love when we can get that, like, no.
You were wrong. The things thatyou were worried about weren't
actually occurring. That's niceto get that validation.
We don't always get the otherside of that. So how cool is
that? So then how did it startto evolve into more of a
friendship? Because you'remeeting someone on a Facebook
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group or through networking, andthen you have a meeting, and
then it can usually it canfizzle out after that, but
something kept you going.Rachel, do you wanna take this
one?
Rachel Archelaus (08:46):
Yeah. So Carrie did have me on her show a
couple times, and I think wejust sort of we were very
different. We were moredifferent then than we are now,
but there was something there.There was, like, a connection.
And so she invited me into amastermind that she created with
a couple people from that groupthat we met from.
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And because of the nature of amastermind, which is a small
intimate group where you'resharing highs and lows and
you're trying to grow together,that really does create a bond.
And, so we've been in that grouptogether now. It was supposed to
start, it's supposed to be for 6months, and we're still together
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meeting every single month,what, 9 years later, 8 years
later, something like that.
Carrie Roldan (09:35):
A 9, I think.
Rachel Archelaus (09:37):
Yeah. So that that's really where we developed
more of a friendship.
Leisa (09:44):
Clearly, something's working. So, Carrie, how about
you? Same, or do you have adifferent take on how the
friendship started to evolve?
Carrie Roldan (09:54):
Yeah. So same. I think, you know, I just I was so
intrigued by Rachel, and she wasdoing business in a way that I
really wanted to do business sonaturally, so 100% herself, and
she was speaking a language. Shewas talking a lot about, like,
woo woo things. Right?
(10:15):
Being psychic. And and so Istarted to take a lot of
Rachel's courses. She had, oneon, enhancing your psychic
abilities, and I I was like, Ican do this too. So that that
was really cool. And there wasjust something about Rachel
being she's how many yearsyounger are you than me, Rachel?
Rachel Archelaus (10:41):
6.
Carrie Roldan (10:41):
Okay. So she's 6 years younger than me. And in
the circles that we were runningin, we were 2 of the younger
people there. Like, this groupof entrepreneurs, most of them
were probably in their forties,fifties, early sixties. So I
think we had that in common aswell.
But she just had this, like,calm, confident she had was
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unwilling to compromise herintegrity. I think that's what
probably brought us together.She was just all about living in
total alignment, and I wanted torun my business that way. So
even though she was, like, a fewyears younger than me, she was
probably a couple years ahead ofme in business. So that's one of
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the reasons why I invited herinto the mastermind.
But, also, I was trying tofigure out what I wanted my
business to be. And as you know,Lisa, right now, I've branded
myself the business BFF, whichis why, initially, you were
like, BFF? We need to talk. Andand so I got a bunch of people
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together who I was like, listen.What I think is missing in this
entrepreneurial space is actualteam.
So my experience before becominga coach is that I was, a high
school teacher and cross countryand track coach. And before
that, I was a highly successfulcross country and track athlete.
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And so I knew what it was liketo be a member of a really close
knit team of people. And I alsoknow that the success that my
cross country teams had in highschool and in college had
something to do with talent, hadsomething to do with
preparation, but it had a lot todo with us, like, being invested
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in each other. Right?
Like, I used the expression,let's lock arms. And I we were
at a conference, and I was sortof they were like, what's your
$1,000,000 idea? What's yourthing? And I was like, I think
that's my $1,000,000 idea. Ithink my thing is that what
entrepreneurs really need,especially women entrepreneurs.
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Right? What we really need arebusiness BFFs. Right? We really
need people who have locked armswith us, who aren't trying to
do, like, transactional things.I feel like everything that I
had experienced thus far waslike and the nature of the
community that we were in wasvery much like, I'll scratch
your back, you scratch mine.
And I just felt like that's notwhat I wanted. So I asked these
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7 women because there's well, 6other women besides me because
there's 7 people on a varsitycross country team, and I just
thought that was the perfectnumber. Like, will you do this
experiment with me? But I thinkthe question was about, like, is
that when we became connected?So, yeah, so, like, my whole
premise behind getting ustogether was, like, how close
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can we become?
How how deep can we go? And wewent deep, and I I think that's
a testament to just puttingwomen in a room together. But
also, Rachel was brave. Rachelwas not afraid to be like, I'm
really different. And that thereis just, like, something
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magnetic about that that drew mein.
And the longer we were in thoseconversations together, the more
we kinda realized, like, oh, Ithink we're business BFFs, and
we do a lot of business thingstogether. I also think we're
BFFs. Like, I found myself therewas this weird period. I don't
know if you had this period,Rachel. I had a weird period
(14:16):
where I felt like, am I takingadvantage of her?
Am I calling her as a friend oras a business? Like, should I be
paying her for this? Like, theredid you have that too, actually?
Rachel Archelaus (14:28):
No. I mean, I think, you know, there's there's
a clear cut delineation ifsomeone has a career as, like, a
doctor or you have to go totheir office, you know, to see
them or ask them for advice. Butfor people who are in our
industry of these soft services,I think it can get confusing as
to like, where does the boundarylie? But I never felt taken
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advantage of from you at all. Ithink we just sort of naturally
started relying on each otherfor more things because we did
become friends outside of justthe group.
And so we have worked togetherformally, and that was really
easy to keep the boundaries upfor. We also work together now
(15:13):
in in intuitive art. And so Ithink we've been really good at,
like, being friends and becomingeven closer as friends while we
work together and have otherrelationships.
Leisa (15:27):
Beautiful. When did it start to feel like Carrie, you
kinda mentioned that, like, thatyou were like, oh, I think we're
business best friends, and thenwait. I think we're actually
best friends' best friends.Like, and I'll Rachel, you can
grab this one. When do you feellike that turned, or what made
that that transition?
Rachel Archelaus (15:50):
You know, it's it feels like it happened so
organically that it's reallyhard to even put a year on it.
You know? Like, I think in themastermind, once we started
talking outside of that, that'sreally when I felt like, okay,
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we're more than just businessfriends. You know? We're we we
did start talking a lot moreabout personal things in the
mastermind, which helped us allget closer.
But then when we started textingand Marco Polo ing outside and
just talking about our day,talking about our spouses,
talking about, you know, othermundane things, I think that's
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when you really start to, like,get a familiarity with someone
and, open up and feel morecomfortable. And one of the
things I think that reallycemented our relationship was
actually when we pissed eachother off, because we were able
to communicate really well andbe like, okay. You hurt my
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feelings, and, oh, you hurt myfeelings too. And, you know,
having the ability to own yourfeelings, but to talk it through
with someone, that's real love.Like, that is real connection,
and I think it's really rare.
So I I definitely felt in thatmoment. Like, this is someone
that I trust and love, and it'sworth communicating with,
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because they're exceptional. Aw.I
Carrie Roldan (17:20):
was gonna say I was gonna say the same thing. So
I actually remember a timebecause we didn't meet in
person, like, physically meet.So we've been in we've been
connected to each other for 9 or10 years. I think I've
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considered Rachel one of my bestfriends since, I don't know, at
least the last 5 or 6 years, andwe didn't meet in person until
has it was it been a year and ahalf, 2 years?
Rachel Archelaus (17:51):
Last last summer. Not this summer, 2024,
but 2023. Mhmm.
Carrie Roldan (17:57):
And we've only done it one time. So we've
actually only physically been ineach other's presence that one
time. And I felt like she was mybest friend way before that, but
I think that's craziness. Right?That, like, I've only physically
met my best friend one time.
That's insane. But I rememberthat you wanted to meet years
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earlier when we were maybe just,like, connected in business and
maybe we're business besties.And she and her partner were in
the town that I live in, and shewas like, you know, if you can
get together, that would begreat, but if you can't, no
worries. And I was just afraid.I was like, I don't know.
It was like the Seinfeld episodeof, like, worlds are colliding.
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I don't know if I'm ready. Andso I think I was busy, but I
probably could have, like,figured things out. But I was
like, I'm not ready to meet her.And then, you know, now I would,
like, jump at the chance.
If if Rachel was in my town, Iwould, like, move things around
and make sure that I would movemountains to make sure that I
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was in her physical presence.
Leisa (19:04):
Where do you both live? Carrie, where do you live?
Carrie Roldan (19:08):
I live in Southern California, so I'm in
Costa Mesa.
Leisa (19:10):
Oh, okay. Me too. Or, I mean, I'm not in Costa Mesa, but
I'm in Southern California. Whatabout you, Rachel? Where do you
live?
Rachel Archelaus (19:16):
I live about 10 minutes south of Salt Lake
City in Utah.
Leisa (19:20):
Not that far. Not that far. Not that far.
Carrie Roldan (19:23):
Since we met when we met, you lived in
Connecticut, and then she livedin Phoenix for a long time. And
now she's in Utah, so she's ashe's a traveler. And there was
a time this was actually when wekind of became, I think, pretty
close friends. There was a timewhen Rachel was, like, living in
her van and traveling thecountry, and she was doing all
(19:43):
the things. So yeah.
Leisa (19:45):
So many people did that, especially during the pandemic
where they're just, like,selling everything, taking it on
the road. I have so many so manyand still it's happening. I love
that. I love that. I don't knowif I could fit all my shoes in a
van, but I I, yeah, I don'tthink it's for me.
But I know a lot of peopleabsolutely love it. So you're
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Rachel, you're now back in in astructure. You still do the van
thing, or what what's yoursituation?
Rachel Archelaus (20:11):
I did the van thing for about a year, but,
yeah, I'm in a house now. I'vebeen I've been a little more
settled the past few years.
Leisa (20:18):
Was it weird to transition from one to the
other?
Rachel Archelaus (20:22):
No. Not really. I really like variety,
so
Leisa (20:24):
Oh, cool.
Rachel Archelaus (20:25):
It was fun.
Leisa (20:26):
Oh, good. Very cool. Alright. So one other question,
because I've heard you bothmention some things that you
really appreciate and love aboutthe other person. So I'm gonna
ask, what do you wish for eachother?
Like, Rachel, what do you wishfor Carrie? And then we'll hear
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from Carrie what she wishes foryou, Rachel.
Rachel Archelaus (20:50):
Well, I wish that Carrie gets everything she
wants. I mean, she's so clearand loving and positive and
optimistic and such a brightlight. Like, if that was
compensated, she would be theworld's richest person. Like, I
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just I wish for her thatanything she desires just
instantly manifests at her feet.
Carrie Roldan (21:18):
Thanks, lady.
Leisa (21:19):
You're welcome.
Carrie Roldan (21:22):
I wish that for you too, but that actually
happens for Rachel, like, soeffortlessly, in so many ways.
So I knew you were gonna ask aquestion like this. I think for
Rachel, I just continue to wishfor more ease, more fun. Like,
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Rachel's really good at justdoing whatever she wants
whenever she wants. Like, she'samazing.
So I just want so much fun. Oneof my favorite things is getting
messages from Rachel. So we talkevery day, maybe multiple times
a day over Marco Polo. So it'slike a video app. The, like,
childish, giddy, excitedmessages that I get when she's
(22:09):
like, oh, I got to do thisthing.
And so for her, it can be shegets to do whatever she wants,
but I love it when she gets thelittle delights. Like, the
little, I just got this makeup,and it was amazing. So that's
what I'm gonna wish for you,Rachel, is just all the surprise
and delights.
Rachel Archelaus (22:27):
Thank you.
Leisa (22:28):
I love the word delight. That's one of my intention
words. Like, if I'm gonna go toa meeting or something, I'm
like, I welcome delight today,and just delight's like a good
surprise, like a littlebeautiful present. Yeah. So
delightful.
It is delightful. Right? And sowhat would you if you were
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together in person, what wouldyou do together? Well, let's
see. Go ahead.
Rachel Archelaus (22:57):
Go ahead. Go ahead.
Leisa (22:59):
Carrie, what would you guys do together?
Carrie Roldan (23:02):
So I I'm gonna answer the question probably
differently than Rachel becauseI feel like if we were, at this
stage in our lives right nowtogether in person, it would
either be because we were doingsome sort of intentional retreat
together or because we werehosting some sort of intentional
retreat together. So, I feel I'mgonna answer if we were hosting
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the retreat because I think thatwould be amazing. We would be
lighting up the room. We wouldbe helping pin people connect
with themselves. We woulddefinitely be teaching in
Rachel's method of intuitiveart.
And, I know I would be helpingwomen connect on a deeper level
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so that they can do what theyreally wanna do with their lives
and businesses. And we wouldalso be letting magic happen.
When we get together, like,magic happens. What about you,
Rachel?
Rachel Archelaus (24:02):
Well, I love that. So we would do that during
the day, and then in theevening, we would be hanging out
around the pool and not drinkingalcohol because neither of us
drink, which is so fun, andprobably talking about our
lives, our men, how things aregonna improve and basking in
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whatever we did that day.
Carrie Roldan (24:32):
I think there would be massages involved too.
Rachel Archelaus (24:36):
Yeah. I like that.
Leisa (24:38):
I'm sensing a retreat coming. Yeah.
Carrie Roldan (24:41):
We didn't I didn't know until we started
talking, so thank you, Lisa.
Leisa (24:44):
I think we just launched it. I love that. Well, I am
thank you so much for being onour show. I love hearing about
your friendship, and I can feelthe the bright sunlight coming
through both of you today. Andit it's just gonna shower all of
our guests.
So, thank you or, I mean, all ofour besties. Honestly, you you
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never know where you're gonnameet your next BFF. It could be,
through a Facebook group, whichyou're not the 1st guest of ours
to meet through Facebook or or acommunity like that. It could be
through Zoom. It could bethrough, I don't know, walking
your dog.
I don't know. It could come fromanywhere. But thank you so much
for being on our show, and we'llsee you next time, besties. Bye.
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Hey, bestie.
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Tamara (25:38):
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Leisa (25:45):
Yes. And if you have a fun story about how you met your
BFF, send us an email at info athow I met my bff.com. We would
love to hear about it.
Tamara (25:54):
Definitely. And, hey, maybe we'll have you on our next
episode.
Leisa (25:58):
That would be awesome. Until next time.
Tamara (26:01):
Love you, BFFs.
Hey, besties. My name's Leisa.
Tamara (00:03):
And my name's Tamara, and we're BFFs.
Leisa (00:06):
Tamara and I met when we were about 12 years old growing
up in good old Fairbanks,Alaska.
Tamara (00:11):
And we've been best friends forever since.
Leisa (00:13):
That's right. And that's why we've decided to have some
fun, friendly conversations withthe bestest of best friends.
Tamara (00:18):
We'll talk about how we became best friends, our
experiences together, and haveother best friends on the show
to share how they met.
Leisa (00:26):
Who knows? You never know when you'll meet your next BFF.
Tamara (00:30):
Now let's get into it, how I met my BFF.
Leisa (00:34):
Welcome to another episode of how I met my BFF, and
it's just me, Lisa, here today.My cohost, Tamara, is at a very
important event. So I have somevery exciting best friend
guests, that I can't wait foryou to meet. But before we get
into that, I just wanna let youknow that one of my dreams came
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true. I was able to be a blondefinally, which is something I
always wish I could be, but myeyes are brown.
My eyebrows are brown. I mean,it's it's just doesn't work. It
doesn't work. But for Halloween,it sure did. And so I found this
dress on, like, a clearancerack.
It was, like, used to be a $125,and it was $15. And it was this
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bubblegum pink dress that wasfluffy and and frilly and,
happened to fit perfectly. AndI'm like, I can make a costume
out of this. And so I did mylittle chat GPT. I said, what
costumes would be great for abig, pink, fluffy dress?
(01:37):
And one of the answers was theperfect answer, and it was
Barbie. And so then I got mylong blonde wig and dolled it
up, and I got to wear my fancygold shoes and my fancy jewelry
that I already have because I'mkinda like a Barbie girl living
in a Barbie world anyway. So,now the kicker to this is that
(02:00):
my husband and I were going to aHalloween party, and it was
mandatory to dress up. Myhusband, not so much a dresser
upper, definitely not forHalloween, and he is a golf
instructor. So I thought, wow.
All you need to do is put avisor on, and you can be golf
Ken. So there we had it. He washappy. I was happy. Everyone was
happy, and we got to be Barbieand Ken for Halloween.
(02:22):
So we had fun. We had fun. Butand we'll have to hear if if
Tamara got to do anything funfor Halloween. But I would love
to introduce our guests today.We've got Rachel and Carrie.
Welcome to the show.
Rachel Archelaus (02:36):
Yay.
Carrie Roldan (02:38):
Thanks for having us.
Leisa (02:39):
You. Yes. So, I'd I'd love to hear how you met. Who
wants to kick us off?
Carrie Roldan (02:48):
I think it would be fun if you went first,
Rachel.
Rachel Archelaus (02:51):
Oh my gosh. Okay. Well, Carrie and I met
because we both joined an onlinecommunity meant to introduce
entrepreneurs, and I joinedbecause I am dreadfully
introverted and the idea thatsomeone else could gather people
so that I could meet them wasfabulous. Carrie is just a
(03:15):
people person and a connector,and so I'm not sure why she
joined probably just to meetmore people. But, anyway, she
found me in there, made, anappointment to talk to me.
And my first impression ofCarrie when she called me was
like she was in her car. I couldhear the wind coming through the
speakers. She was probably,like, driving her kids
(03:36):
somewhere, and she was having totalk really loud. And I was
like, who is this person? Whatis she doing?
Why are you calling me now?Right? Like so I was just blown
away by her energy and herenthusiasm, and, and I was like,
what am I gonna make of her?She's she's amazing. So that's
(03:57):
how I met Carrie.
Carrie Roldan (03:59):
Wow. Rachel, I don't remember. I I do remember
talking to you from my car. Iremember getting my kids out of
my car, like, talking to you inthe but I don't remember that
being our first meeting. Andmaybe that's because so this
community that we joined, therewas, like it was it was forever
(04:20):
ago.
But there was, like, a Facebookgroup where you were supposed to
introduce yourself and saythings about yourself, and I may
have learned about you throughsomebody else or, like, had some
sort of exposure to Rachel. Sowhat I knew about Rachel when I
when we had that call andbecause was that the call was I
inviting you to be on my show?
Rachel Archelaus (04:40):
I think you were just introducing yourself
to me. I'm not sure if you wereinviting me or not. I don't
remember.
Carrie Roldan (04:46):
Well, regardless, I knew Rachel was psychic, and
so I was afraid to talk to herbecause I thought that she would
read my mind. I thought that shecould see right through me. I
thought that she could see myevery insecurity, my, like and I
(05:06):
consider myself a really genuineperson, but the thought that
someone could see in there,really freaked me out. So that's
what I remember about thatconversation. And then she told
me that she ran track in highschool, And so that was, like,
our little connection pointbecause I'm a cross country and
track coach.
And so yeah. But I I was sointrigued by Rachel. She had a
(05:29):
program at the time, soulcentered boot camp or soul
centered business boot camp, andthat is what I wanted. So I had
joined that community because Iwas brand new in starting I I
wanted to be a life coach. Mybusiness has evolved since then,
but that still is really at atthe core of what I do.
And I was like, where do I findpeople who want life coaching?
(05:52):
And so I was in that group forthat. And then, I met Rachel,
and I remember I I the so ourfirst, like, real in person
encounter was virtual. Weactually that's a whole another
story about our first real inperson encounter. But our first
virtual encounter was I used tohave a, a Google Hangout on air
(06:14):
show.
And, I invited Rachel to be onit, and the title of that show
had something to do with findingyour purpose. And so I wanted
Rachel to, like, help me find mypurpose. So that's why we were
there.
Leisa (06:31):
I love that. Wow. Okay. I'm like I probably have, like,
50 questions. That's so cool.
So had you never had anexperience with a psychic
before, or, like, what was whatled you to have those
trepidations? Yeah.
Carrie Roldan (06:47):
I had had, an experience with a psychic, and
it was someone who like, afriend had recommended saying
that you had to do this, and itwas sort of like a novelty.
Like, I I loved my experience. Iwas like, this is the coolest
thing ever. But there'ssomething about Rachel, and
you're probably experiencing itnow. Like, she has this
(07:08):
penetrating aura, like this andand almost zero affect.
Like, when she's listening,she's just sort of blank. And I
think because I am such a peopleperson and I'm such a reader of
other people, Rachel freaked meout because she was reading me,
I think, or she was just, like,more of a blank slate. And so I
(07:31):
was a little intimidated bythat. She's a she's Rachel is a
highly evolved being, and I'veevolved a lot since then. But at
the time, I was just feeling allsorts of insecurity.
Leisa (07:42):
Oh my gosh. I love that. Rachel, did you know that she
was feeling that way?
Rachel Archelaus (07:50):
No. I mean, because if my superpower, right,
is my, all knowing nature,which, you know, I'm joking.
Carrie's superpower is her warm,welcoming personality. So I was
just sort of blown away by herenergy where she was like,
uh-oh. What is she thinkingabout me?
(08:10):
And I was just thinkingwonderful things.
Carrie Roldan (08:12):
Aw.
Leisa (08:13):
Isn't that funny? I love when we can get that, like, no.
You were wrong. The things thatyou were worried about weren't
actually occurring. That's niceto get that validation.
We don't always get the otherside of that. So how cool is
that? So then how did it startto evolve into more of a
friendship? Because you'remeeting someone on a Facebook
(08:34):
group or through networking, andthen you have a meeting, and
then it can usually it canfizzle out after that, but
something kept you going.Rachel, do you wanna take this
one?
Rachel Archelaus (08:46):
Yeah. So Carrie did have me on her show a
couple times, and I think wejust sort of we were very
different. We were moredifferent then than we are now,
but there was something there.There was, like, a connection.
And so she invited me into amastermind that she created with
a couple people from that groupthat we met from.
(09:08):
And because of the nature of amastermind, which is a small
intimate group where you'resharing highs and lows and
you're trying to grow together,that really does create a bond.
And, so we've been in that grouptogether now. It was supposed to
start, it's supposed to be for 6months, and we're still together
(09:30):
meeting every single month,what, 9 years later, 8 years
later, something like that.
Carrie Roldan (09:35):
A 9, I think.
Rachel Archelaus (09:37):
Yeah. So that that's really where we developed
more of a friendship.
Leisa (09:44):
Clearly, something's working. So, Carrie, how about
you? Same, or do you have adifferent take on how the
friendship started to evolve?
Carrie Roldan (09:54):
Yeah. So same. I think, you know, I just I was so
intrigued by Rachel, and she wasdoing business in a way that I
really wanted to do business sonaturally, so 100% herself, and
she was speaking a language. Shewas talking a lot about, like,
woo woo things. Right?
(10:15):
Being psychic. And and so Istarted to take a lot of
Rachel's courses. She had, oneon, enhancing your psychic
abilities, and I I was like, Ican do this too. So that that
was really cool. And there wasjust something about Rachel
being she's how many yearsyounger are you than me, Rachel?
Rachel Archelaus (10:41):
6.
Carrie Roldan (10:41):
Okay. So she's 6 years younger than me. And in
the circles that we were runningin, we were 2 of the younger
people there. Like, this groupof entrepreneurs, most of them
were probably in their forties,fifties, early sixties. So I
think we had that in common aswell.
But she just had this, like,calm, confident she had was
(11:05):
unwilling to compromise herintegrity. I think that's what
probably brought us together.She was just all about living in
total alignment, and I wanted torun my business that way. So
even though she was, like, a fewyears younger than me, she was
probably a couple years ahead ofme in business. So that's one of
(11:26):
the reasons why I invited herinto the mastermind.
But, also, I was trying tofigure out what I wanted my
business to be. And as you know,Lisa, right now, I've branded
myself the business BFF, whichis why, initially, you were
like, BFF? We need to talk. Andand so I got a bunch of people
(11:46):
together who I was like, listen.What I think is missing in this
entrepreneurial space is actualteam.
So my experience before becominga coach is that I was, a high
school teacher and cross countryand track coach. And before
that, I was a highly successfulcross country and track athlete.
(12:09):
And so I knew what it was liketo be a member of a really close
knit team of people. And I alsoknow that the success that my
cross country teams had in highschool and in college had
something to do with talent, hadsomething to do with
preparation, but it had a lot todo with us, like, being invested
(12:32):
in each other. Right?
Like, I used the expression,let's lock arms. And I we were
at a conference, and I was sortof they were like, what's your
$1,000,000 idea? What's yourthing? And I was like, I think
that's my $1,000,000 idea. Ithink my thing is that what
entrepreneurs really need,especially women entrepreneurs.
(12:52):
Right? What we really need arebusiness BFFs. Right? We really
need people who have locked armswith us, who aren't trying to
do, like, transactional things.I feel like everything that I
had experienced thus far waslike and the nature of the
community that we were in wasvery much like, I'll scratch
your back, you scratch mine.
And I just felt like that's notwhat I wanted. So I asked these
(13:12):
7 women because there's well, 6other women besides me because
there's 7 people on a varsitycross country team, and I just
thought that was the perfectnumber. Like, will you do this
experiment with me? But I thinkthe question was about, like, is
that when we became connected?So, yeah, so, like, my whole
premise behind getting ustogether was, like, how close
(13:33):
can we become?
How how deep can we go? And wewent deep, and I I think that's
a testament to just puttingwomen in a room together. But
also, Rachel was brave. Rachelwas not afraid to be like, I'm
really different. And that thereis just, like, something
(13:54):
magnetic about that that drew mein.
And the longer we were in thoseconversations together, the more
we kinda realized, like, oh, Ithink we're business BFFs, and
we do a lot of business thingstogether. I also think we're
BFFs. Like, I found myself therewas this weird period. I don't
know if you had this period,Rachel. I had a weird period
(14:16):
where I felt like, am I takingadvantage of her?
Am I calling her as a friend oras a business? Like, should I be
paying her for this? Like, theredid you have that too, actually?
Rachel Archelaus (14:28):
No. I mean, I think, you know, there's there's
a clear cut delineation ifsomeone has a career as, like, a
doctor or you have to go totheir office, you know, to see
them or ask them for advice. Butfor people who are in our
industry of these soft services,I think it can get confusing as
to like, where does the boundarylie? But I never felt taken
(14:50):
advantage of from you at all. Ithink we just sort of naturally
started relying on each otherfor more things because we did
become friends outside of justthe group.
And so we have worked togetherformally, and that was really
easy to keep the boundaries upfor. We also work together now
(15:13):
in in intuitive art. And so Ithink we've been really good at,
like, being friends and becomingeven closer as friends while we
work together and have otherrelationships.
Leisa (15:27):
Beautiful. When did it start to feel like Carrie, you
kinda mentioned that, like, thatyou were like, oh, I think we're
business best friends, and thenwait. I think we're actually
best friends' best friends.Like, and I'll Rachel, you can
grab this one. When do you feellike that turned, or what made
that that transition?
Rachel Archelaus (15:50):
You know, it's it feels like it happened so
organically that it's reallyhard to even put a year on it.
You know? Like, I think in themastermind, once we started
talking outside of that, that'sreally when I felt like, okay,
(16:10):
we're more than just businessfriends. You know? We're we we
did start talking a lot moreabout personal things in the
mastermind, which helped us allget closer.
But then when we started textingand Marco Polo ing outside and
just talking about our day,talking about our spouses,
talking about, you know, othermundane things, I think that's
(16:31):
when you really start to, like,get a familiarity with someone
and, open up and feel morecomfortable. And one of the
things I think that reallycemented our relationship was
actually when we pissed eachother off, because we were able
to communicate really well andbe like, okay. You hurt my
(16:53):
feelings, and, oh, you hurt myfeelings too. And, you know,
having the ability to own yourfeelings, but to talk it through
with someone, that's real love.Like, that is real connection,
and I think it's really rare.
So I I definitely felt in thatmoment. Like, this is someone
that I trust and love, and it'sworth communicating with,
(17:16):
because they're exceptional. Aw.I
Carrie Roldan (17:20):
was gonna say I was gonna say the same thing. So
I actually remember a timebecause we didn't meet in
person, like, physically meet.So we've been in we've been
connected to each other for 9 or10 years. I think I've
(17:40):
considered Rachel one of my bestfriends since, I don't know, at
least the last 5 or 6 years, andwe didn't meet in person until
has it was it been a year and ahalf, 2 years?
Rachel Archelaus (17:51):
Last last summer. Not this summer, 2024,
but 2023. Mhmm.
Carrie Roldan (17:57):
And we've only done it one time. So we've
actually only physically been ineach other's presence that one
time. And I felt like she was mybest friend way before that, but
I think that's craziness. Right?That, like, I've only physically
met my best friend one time.
That's insane. But I rememberthat you wanted to meet years
(18:21):
earlier when we were maybe just,like, connected in business and
maybe we're business besties.And she and her partner were in
the town that I live in, and shewas like, you know, if you can
get together, that would begreat, but if you can't, no
worries. And I was just afraid.I was like, I don't know.
It was like the Seinfeld episodeof, like, worlds are colliding.
(18:42):
I don't know if I'm ready. Andso I think I was busy, but I
probably could have, like,figured things out. But I was
like, I'm not ready to meet her.And then, you know, now I would,
like, jump at the chance.
If if Rachel was in my town, Iwould, like, move things around
and make sure that I would movemountains to make sure that I
(19:03):
was in her physical presence.
Leisa (19:04):
Where do you both live? Carrie, where do you live?
Carrie Roldan (19:08):
I live in Southern California, so I'm in
Costa Mesa.
Leisa (19:10):
Oh, okay. Me too. Or, I mean, I'm not in Costa Mesa, but
I'm in Southern California. Whatabout you, Rachel? Where do you
live?
Rachel Archelaus (19:16):
I live about 10 minutes south of Salt Lake
City in Utah.
Leisa (19:20):
Not that far. Not that far. Not that far.
Carrie Roldan (19:23):
Since we met when we met, you lived in
Connecticut, and then she livedin Phoenix for a long time. And
now she's in Utah, so she's ashe's a traveler. And there was
a time this was actually when wekind of became, I think, pretty
close friends. There was a timewhen Rachel was, like, living in
her van and traveling thecountry, and she was doing all
(19:43):
the things. So yeah.
Leisa (19:45):
So many people did that, especially during the pandemic
where they're just, like,selling everything, taking it on
the road. I have so many so manyand still it's happening. I love
that. I love that. I don't knowif I could fit all my shoes in a
van, but I I, yeah, I don'tthink it's for me.
But I know a lot of peopleabsolutely love it. So you're
(20:05):
Rachel, you're now back in in astructure. You still do the van
thing, or what what's yoursituation?
Rachel Archelaus (20:11):
I did the van thing for about a year, but,
yeah, I'm in a house now. I'vebeen I've been a little more
settled the past few years.
Leisa (20:18):
Was it weird to transition from one to the
other?
Rachel Archelaus (20:22):
No. Not really. I really like variety,
so
Leisa (20:24):
Oh, cool.
Rachel Archelaus (20:25):
It was fun.
Leisa (20:26):
Oh, good. Very cool. Alright. So one other question,
because I've heard you bothmention some things that you
really appreciate and love aboutthe other person. So I'm gonna
ask, what do you wish for eachother?
Like, Rachel, what do you wishfor Carrie? And then we'll hear
(20:46):
from Carrie what she wishes foryou, Rachel.
Rachel Archelaus (20:50):
Well, I wish that Carrie gets everything she
wants. I mean, she's so clearand loving and positive and
optimistic and such a brightlight. Like, if that was
compensated, she would be theworld's richest person. Like, I
(21:10):
just I wish for her thatanything she desires just
instantly manifests at her feet.
Carrie Roldan (21:18):
Thanks, lady.
Leisa (21:19):
You're welcome.
Carrie Roldan (21:22):
I wish that for you too, but that actually
happens for Rachel, like, soeffortlessly, in so many ways.
So I knew you were gonna ask aquestion like this. I think for
Rachel, I just continue to wishfor more ease, more fun. Like,
(21:47):
Rachel's really good at justdoing whatever she wants
whenever she wants. Like, she'samazing.
So I just want so much fun. Oneof my favorite things is getting
messages from Rachel. So we talkevery day, maybe multiple times
a day over Marco Polo. So it'slike a video app. The, like,
childish, giddy, excitedmessages that I get when she's
(22:09):
like, oh, I got to do thisthing.
And so for her, it can be shegets to do whatever she wants,
but I love it when she gets thelittle delights. Like, the
little, I just got this makeup,and it was amazing. So that's
what I'm gonna wish for you,Rachel, is just all the surprise
and delights.
Rachel Archelaus (22:27):
Thank you.
Leisa (22:28):
I love the word delight. That's one of my intention
words. Like, if I'm gonna go toa meeting or something, I'm
like, I welcome delight today,and just delight's like a good
surprise, like a littlebeautiful present. Yeah. So
delightful.
It is delightful. Right? And sowhat would you if you were
(22:48):
together in person, what wouldyou do together? Well, let's
see. Go ahead.
Rachel Archelaus (22:57):
Go ahead. Go ahead.
Leisa (22:59):
Carrie, what would you guys do together?
Carrie Roldan (23:02):
So I I'm gonna answer the question probably
differently than Rachel becauseI feel like if we were, at this
stage in our lives right nowtogether in person, it would
either be because we were doingsome sort of intentional retreat
together or because we werehosting some sort of intentional
retreat together. So, I feel I'mgonna answer if we were hosting
(23:26):
the retreat because I think thatwould be amazing. We would be
lighting up the room. We wouldbe helping pin people connect
with themselves. We woulddefinitely be teaching in
Rachel's method of intuitiveart.
And, I know I would be helpingwomen connect on a deeper level
(23:47):
so that they can do what theyreally wanna do with their lives
and businesses. And we wouldalso be letting magic happen.
When we get together, like,magic happens. What about you,
Rachel?
Rachel Archelaus (24:02):
Well, I love that. So we would do that during
the day, and then in theevening, we would be hanging out
around the pool and not drinkingalcohol because neither of us
drink, which is so fun, andprobably talking about our
lives, our men, how things aregonna improve and basking in
(24:29):
whatever we did that day.
Carrie Roldan (24:32):
I think there would be massages involved too.
Rachel Archelaus (24:36):
Yeah. I like that.
Leisa (24:38):
I'm sensing a retreat coming. Yeah.
Carrie Roldan (24:41):
We didn't I didn't know until we started
talking, so thank you, Lisa.
Leisa (24:44):
I think we just launched it. I love that. Well, I am
thank you so much for being onour show. I love hearing about
your friendship, and I can feelthe the bright sunlight coming
through both of you today. Andit it's just gonna shower all of
our guests.
So, thank you or, I mean, all ofour besties. Honestly, you you
(25:05):
never know where you're gonnameet your next BFF. It could be,
through a Facebook group, whichyou're not the 1st guest of ours
to meet through Facebook or or acommunity like that. It could be
through Zoom. It could bethrough, I don't know, walking
your dog.
I don't know. It could come fromanywhere. But thank you so much
for being on our show, and we'llsee you next time, besties. Bye.
(25:28):
Hey, bestie.
Thanks for listening. If youlike this episode, be sure to
hit that subscribe button to getnotified of new episodes and
check out cool bestie gift ideasat how I met my bff.com.
Tamara (25:38):
That's right. And, also, leave us a review. Those reviews
help us out a lot and are one ofthe best ways to support us.
Leisa (25:45):
Yes. And if you have a fun story about how you met your
BFF, send us an email at info athow I met my bff.com. We would
love to hear about it.
Tamara (25:54):
Definitely. And, hey, maybe we'll have you on our next
episode.
Leisa (25:58):
That would be awesome. Until next time.
Tamara (26:01):
Love you, BFFs.
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