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April 8, 2025 32 mins

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Between snack emergencies and the ‘second shift’ of mom life, your energy is constantly on E. This week, TULA Life Balanced’s Debra Doliner shares science-backed hacks to recharge—because literally ‘touching grass’ and 8-minute friend calls might just save your sanity.

Who Should Listen

  • Moms who collapse at 5 PM but still have 47 tasks to do.
  • Anyone who’s ever thought, “I love my kids, but why does ‘Please play Frisbee with me’ sound like “Please run a marathon with me”? (Spoiler: Your energy cycles are not broken—just misunderstood.)
  • Women who’ve chugged coffee at 9AM, 12PM, and 3 PM… yet still feel like a zombie. (Hydration hacks incoming!)

What You Get In This Episode

  1. Energy ≠ Time
    • Physical energy ≠ mental energy. Example: "I can’t throw a Frisbee right now, but I can play a game."
    • Hack: Front-load mentally taxing tasks when your brain is fresh (or after coffee kicks in).
  2. Hydration is a Superpower
    • Just 2% dehydration slows brain function. Your emotional support water bottle isn’t optional—it’s survival gear.
  3. The 8-Minute Energy Boost
    • Call a hype friend for 8 mins (Simon Sinek-approved!). Just get it off your chest!
  4. “Touch Grass” Literally
    • Bare feet on grass = instant mood boost. Yes, even if your neighbor side-eyes you.
  5. Breathing for Energy
    • Inhale 80%, pause, inhale 20%, exhale = calm. Reverse it = energy. Check out Yoga With Tim.

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Caitlin & Jenny: Educators, moms, and glitter survivors. Follow our chaos on your favorite podcast and social media apps.

Debra Doliner is Caitlin’s friend and Austin Head of Marketing + Growth for TULA Life Balanced, Inc.

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Caitlin Kindred (00:02):
Hello friends, we're so glad you're here.
Welcome to how to Be a Grown-Up.
This is the show with hosts whoare pretending we think we're
regularly just trying to be anadult on a regular basis, but
then we try to teach them to you.
So obviously we're somewhatexperts.
I don't know, we'll see Today.

(00:22):
Well, first of all, let me backthat up, I'm Caitlin, CK.
With me today is my friend,Debra Doliner, who is the Austin
Head of Marketing and Growthfor Tula Life Balanced.
I'm so glad you're here today.
We met a few years ago when ourkids were in the same
kindergarten class.
She is the human embodiment ofa perfectly balanced smoothie.

(00:43):
She's just full of wisdom andenergy and all kinds of let it
get done vibes.
She's amazing and she's here totalk to us about our spring
into self-care series.
She's got some tips on and justsort of words of wisdom on the
things that many of us, as moms,struggle with, like managing
our energy, managing our time,better work-life balance, which

(01:07):
I think is the holy grail of allof this right and other forms
of self-care.
And because Tula's wholemission is to and I love this,
this is pulled, ripped directlyfrom your website and I love it
so much is to shift the secondshift.
By empowering our clients toask for help and prioritize with

(01:27):
purpose, even when your to-dolist is completely overwhelming.
I think you're the perfectperson to talk on those topics.
But shift the second shift.
That's so brilliant, right?
Like moms, they have the wholeday of whatever it may be.
Stay at home, mom life work,whatever it is, and then they
and life work whatever it is,and then they and then the kids
come home and their partner ishome and shift number two.

(01:49):
Here we go, it's absolutelytrue, laundry and her and what
dog and, oh man, so many things.
So, um, I'd love to know whereyour, where your journey with
Tula started.
Talk to me about that, becausethis, this brand, is um, it's

(02:12):
really special.
As I look at it and kind of domy research, I I'm very
interested in this.
Talk to me how you got started.
So I actually got startedpretty recently, but I'm so just
happy to be on board with that.
And I not started because I wasactually looking for more
work-life balance in my life,but shifting, I really thought
about getting back into theclassroom and was trying to

(02:33):
figure that out.
So I was substitute teachingand I just knew if I went back
to teaching, it would take overmy life.
And I found Tula and I fell inlove with their mission.
You know when you're lookingfor a job and it pops up on the
page and, instead of sending theform cover letters, you're like
, oh wait, let me open up a newdocument.

(02:55):
And I was just like in lovewith their mission of helping
other women prioritize theirlife and help them focus on what
really matters.
And let me tell you, megan andCody are so delightful.
They're the founders and theowners of Tula, and Tula is
based in multiple cities, fromDenver, boulder, raleigh,

(03:17):
richmond and Scottsdale andBillings, montana I love that.
Wow, billllingham, montana Iwant to say Cody from there
originally.
I hope I have that correct.
So they of course our hometownwas like we need to live there.
So they of course Austin, andso, yeah, I love it and it's

(03:38):
really.
It's not only empowering theclients, but a lot of the
personal assistants are moms too, who are just looking for extra
work during the day and theylove helping women.
So it's really helping multiplepeople and I think that's great
.
So I love that.
It's kind of a two-way streetfor the assistants who are

(04:00):
helping out and they make iteasy.
I think the important thing, too, is because they have an app.
It's called Tula T-U-L-A and itmakes it easy to ask for help,
and that's one thing we'll touchon a little bit later.
But a lot of people have areally hard time asking for and
accepting help.
So it takes away that barrier,because it's a lot easier to
type something into an app thanit is sometimes to call up

(04:23):
someone and ask them for help onthe internet than it is
sometimes to call up someone andthem for help.
Oh, we've talked about that somany times, right, it's.
It's especially when you theweirdest.
The worst question, I think, isum, what can I do to help?
Cause that is to me that's avery overwhelming question.
I'm like just look around, yeah, there was something everywhere

(04:45):
you turn.
But I also don't like being theperson who says like, well, I
keep this clean and the laundryreally needs work, and right.
So being able to just put it inan app where it's less, it
feels, less confrontational, itfeels I don't know, there's sort
of a disconnect that kind ofmakes it easier to do that.

(05:06):
I like that process.
Okay, so let's get into theself-care piece of this.
I think that our listenersreally want to know you know
more about those topics Itouched on earlier.
Right, like managing yourenergy levels and managing your
time.
Let's go there, wow.
So I think the first thing torecognize is that there's a

(05:27):
difference between physicalenergy and mental energy, and
the funny thing is, is managingthat it's actually how we manage
?
That is, utilizing the samething, but recognizing within
ourselves, like right now Idon't have the physical energy
to do something.
The best example is sometimesmy son will say, hey, do you

(05:49):
want to go outside and throw thefrisbee with me, you know, if
his friends aren't available,and sometimes I have the energy
and I'll do it.
And other times I'm like I justdon't.
Can we play a game?
I'm like I just can't runaround.
Right, the mental energyusually around 1 to 3 pm.
You'll have to tell me whattime of day you're dead, but 1

(06:10):
to 3 pm I'm pretty like I justdon't have a lot of mental space
and it'll recharge right afterI pick my son up from I don't
know our.
You know everything is cyclical.
So that's, I don't know whattime of day are you.
You know I, so I have.
It was about two in theafternoon, especially when I

(06:32):
wasn't drinking coffee.
Now that coffee is back in mylife, you know, it tends to be a
little bit later, but the bigcrash for me tends to happen
after my ADHD stimulant has woreoff, which is right around five
o'clock, and unfortunatelythat's the same time that my
son's mental energy tends to runout to Right.
So because, again, stimulantsand those things that help us be

(06:55):
functional during the day wearoff by the end of the day, and
so I sort of look around at thattime of day and that's also,
unfortunately, when the secondshift really picks up, right.
So for me it's, it's like thisis the time when I need to be
back up and running, but this isthe time when I don't have it

(07:15):
in me and it'll come back inlike an hour, like you said, but
I need it to be there at fiveand it's just not.
Yeah, Well, and so that's, youknow, especially with that is
recognizing when it is, and so Idon't know.
For you, for example, I don'tknow if that means trying to
ship dinner to a different timeor having to work around that

(07:36):
thing.
Yeah, yeah, and I think it'simportant for us to to know
thyself, to know when yourenergy is low and predict so
you're not being hard onyourself every day.
And yeah, so for me too, one ofthe huge light bulb moments for
me, and I think for everyone,is recognizing naturally not

(07:58):
just that but our how we'respending our energy through the
week.
And the best way to say, torecognize whether or not you're
an introvert, an extrovert or anambivert and I think from
listening to you, you're anambivert, I would, I think so.
Yeah, I think it's sointeresting because I definitely
want my alone time, for sure,but then I noticed that I feel

(08:19):
much more refreshed and be after.
I've spent some time withpeople that I love, make me
laugh, things like that.
So I would say definitelyambivert for sure.
Yeah, and for listeners thataren't sure, an ambivert is
exactly between an extrovert andan introvert.
So sometimes there are peoplethat love to socialize but don't
have parties, or that they loveto socialize but still need

(08:40):
that downtime after.
And so I think, paying attentionto limiting if you are an
ambivert or an introvert,limiting your social events
throughout the week or you'rejust going to drain yourself
completely, sure, and I love myfriends and family.
There are some people in mylife that I've learned that

(09:03):
drain my energy.
Yes, you know, we payingattention to that and seeing how
you can kind of protect rightand doing so in a way that
honors the relationship you havewith that person say, oh, I'm
going to have this time withthem.

(09:23):
They mean a lot to me, but I'msure I'm going to be mentally
drained after this.
I'm going to watch my favoritelight TV show.
Yes, absolutely yeah.
And also we talked a little bitabout this, about your slump of
knowing making sure that if youhave that slump in the day,
trying to make sure that's not atime when you need to be

(09:46):
productive.
So I've learned to schedule myfront load my work from that
uses the most mental energy atthe beginning of the day and
then taper.
So, for example, like emailsand stuff like that to me, I
taper off towards the end of theday where I just they don't

(10:06):
have to.
Yeah, that's really smart.
Like if you're someone, if youheard that saying, eat the frog,
where you do what's the hardesttask first.
That might not work for somepeople.
For me, I'm someone who kind ofneeds to start out with a few of
the littler tasks first to kindof get my momentum going and
feel like, excuse me, feel likeI'm accomplishing something, and

(10:28):
then I can sort of tackle oneof the bigger projects, but then
, you're right, I have to taperback down again.
So just that know thyself pieceis a really important one here.
I haven't thought about it thatway, but just scheduling the
things that take the most timeand energy in a more mindful
manner can really make a bigdifference.

(10:48):
So absolutely.
But I have to tell you you saideat the frog.
So I teach a work-life balanceclass here in Austin for Tula
and it's amazing.
But I teach eat the frog.
So for listeners, that does meanto do the thing that you don't
like doing first, and I knoweveryone knew that phrase, but
the first time I mentioned it Igot some funny look and they

(11:09):
were like do do what?
Yeah, excuse me, I don't likefrogs.
I don't know what.
Yeah, oh my, I've heard they'retasty, um, so it tastes like
chicken, I don't know.
Yeah, um.
And to also know what gives youenergy, and I think you touched

(11:30):
on this on one of your previousepisodes, but it's worth
re-mentioning.
Sometimes we just need thereminder of opening the windows,
making your bed, super walkoutside.
You don't have to do all ofthese things.
But eating a healthy breakfast,like really really feeding
yourself, staying hydrated.
I was just reading you know,sometimes we hear stay hydrated,

(11:51):
but we let it go.
I was reading that even milddehydration of two percent water
, body water loss already slowsdown your brain function, has
significant impact on how you,how your mood is, your
productivity, it impactseverything.
Just mild dehydration wow,that's super interesting.
Yeah, and they, um, if you areseverely dehydrated, actually

(12:15):
changes the um cerebral volumeof your brain by like five
percent.
But like, yeah, you canactually like change the volume
of your brain just with water.
So, okay, well, um, anothercase for those, what?
Eight glasses of drink?

(12:35):
Uh, hang on to those emotionalsupport water bottles, folks,
because you need them.
Um, who knew Hydration?
Okay, so, like I don't know ifmy brain is on fire right now,
but I did.
I was like I'm going to makesure I'm not dehydrated going
into this.
Well, and podcasting will dryyour mouth out.

(12:56):
I'm just going to tell you now,like, when you're talking a lot
and you're it's not a socialsetting where you've got like
your beverage with you andyou're kind of walking around
and clinking glasses.
This will, this will do it.
So for sure we should have agreat.
Yeah, we should.
We'll just sit here and sit ifyou hear me slurping, that's
what I'm doing, guys.
So, so I I will say this nextone, and I will confess I don't

(13:19):
think I've ever really triedthis purposefully, but I'm going
to, uh, as far as knowing whatgives you energy taking your
shoes off and going outside andputting your feet I've heard, oh
, wow, okay, that one I haven'tdone before.
I have.
I have an alarm on my phone thattells me to go outside, like

(13:43):
for like five minutes.
Um, it's supposed to be in themorning, because vitamin d in
the morning is really helpfulfor, you know, brain function
and mental health and all thosethings.
But sometimes I don't get to ituntil around noon and sometimes
I skip it.
But now I'm going to add thatlittle piece of like, if there's
not too many bugs, because themosquitoes eat me, but I'll go

(14:06):
put my feet in the grass.
That sounds amazing.
Yeah, literally touching grass.
Yes, I'll go do my neighbor'sgrass.
Her grass is so much prettierthan ours.
Just walk into your neighbor'syard with therapy like.
No worries, hey, just my mentalhealth break for the day.
No, big time.
Your old neighbor.
Why is she doing?

(14:27):
Your grass is better than mine.
Thank you, oh, I love it.
Um, and then there are I don'tknow if you learn this there are
also breathing exercises tohelp actually regulate your
energy.
It can help bring your energy upor bring your energy down or
calm you down, depending on whatyou do.

(14:47):
So I learned this from a guynamed Yoga, with Tim.
Okay, I have not heard of him.
Yoga is fantastic.
He's very easy on the eye.
Yes, okay, can we get behind it?
I'm here for it.
I'm so grateful One.
His yoga videos are great.
He actually teaches you whatyou're doing wrong and what

(15:09):
you're doing right, and he soI'll kind of go through the
reading.
I will go through it, but I'llexplain so.
If you breathe in slowly butyou only fill up your lungs like
80 percent and then you'regonna click for four seconds and
then fill the rest of the 20percent and then let it, that's
supposed to calm you down.

(15:30):
Okay, I want to see if you dothe opposite, where you fill it
up 20 and then fill it up 80 andthen let it go.
There are many breathingexercises that can actually help
regulate your energy dependingon what you need.
Yeah, I've heard of, like,calming yourself down with
breath, but I've never heard ofhyping yourself up or giving

(15:53):
yourself more energy.
I'm sure that we've talkedabout you know, taking deep
breaths to just to regulate, butthat's a really interesting
concept.
I honestly never heard of that.
I'm going to go look into thatbecause that's a fascinating
idea.
Okay, I'm like I'm writing itdown and I am not a breathing
expert on this, but there, Iknow that there are also ones
where you're supposed to, like,breathe in baths four times and

(16:15):
then let it out, and thenbreathe out four times and let
it out, and that's supposed toincrease your energy.
Again, I don't, my apologies, Idon't have the exact um, no, no
, no.
If I find it, I'll put it onthe blog post for this episode.
Yeah, they're definitelybreathing exercises to help help
mood, to help energy, and Ihave used them.
I've used them more when I needto, like, if I'm upset about

(16:38):
something I need, like, yeah,yeah, that makes a lot of sense,
okay, yeah, and then the.
The last one is for us, thingsthat give us energy.
Have you heard of this eightminute phone call, like call a
friend for eight minutes.
No, tell me about this.
No, I heard of it, I think fromSimon Sinek.
Are you familiar?

(16:58):
Okay, I've heard that name.
Yes, he's lovely and he talksabout that.
It only takes eight minutes,that's all you need to call a
friend to offload, like somemental, either frustrations or
to get energy.
But call the friend that youknow.
Like you don't want to callyour friend who's going through
like a major life situation.
You want to call your friendthat you're like hey, like all

(17:19):
it takes is eight minutes and sothat's not allowable and it it
just helps shift your energy andusually when you hang up the
phone you're like okay, ready toget started on that task.
I was dreading, yeah, um, I'mgonna put a little caveat there.
There are friends who, despitewhat they're going through, are

(17:39):
willing to listen.
Anyway, I'm going to give Jennya shout out here, because I've
been that woman.
For sure she will say like oh,I know I'm dealing with things,
but what are you dealing with?
Because she just comes from aplace of.
Yes, that's just how she is.
One of my favorite questions toask before doing something like
that is um, do you have themental space for me to vent to

(18:01):
you right now.
You know, do you have it in you?
Is it okay if I vent to you inthis moment?
If I can't, I will write itdown and we can come back to it
later or something.
I'll find some other way tovent it out.
Maybe I have been known torecord a voice note of me, like
arguing to myself I love it,just, it just felt good to get
it all out, right.

(18:21):
But I think asking that questionbecause, also, you might not
know what that person is dealingwith, you know in that moment
or whatever, but, um, right,some friends are willing to take
that on, so, but I love theidea of an eight minute call.
Call, that's not a lot of time.
You can spare 8 minutes, right,and I think so.
I'm interested in the case.
Is it specifically when you'relike I need to offload something

(18:44):
and what you said is so perfect, because the true measure of a
very good friend is someonethat's not my best friend, or
she can be going through stuffand I can be going through stuff
, but we're still here and stillpresent, have that space for
each other's issues as well.
Okay, so I think you've givenus a lot to think about when it
comes to managing our energy.

(19:04):
These tips, can you compile them, can you send them to us and
then I can put them on ourwebsite?
Where can we go to get a listof all these to be able to
revisit them?
Absolutely, I will give you,I'll send them to you for the
website.
And also, we have a promo codefor all your listeners.
Yeah, gifts for listeners, yes,and yeah, it's 20 off any tulip

(19:29):
order for your first order,okay, and it's GrownUp20.
I love it.
I love it.
Yeah, so you can just go in anyof the app stores and download
Tula to you, la, or go to ourwebsite at tulabalancecom.
That discount will be for y'all.
And I just wanted to add,there's this sweet quote that I

(19:53):
came across about managingenergy and I think sometimes,
when we're looking for takingcare of ourselves and self-care,
we often are in this state oflife where we're having a
difficult time, and I justthought this was really, and it
says your entire life can reallychange in a year.
You just have to love yourselfenough to know you deserve more

(20:15):
and be brave enough to demandmore and disciplined enough to
work for more.
So I think that the loveyourself, to know that you
deserve more, is reallyimportant here, especially when
it comes to self-care andmanaging your energy and all the
good things.
Absolutely, I love that.
Let's take a quick break andwe'll be right back with more

(20:40):
fun stuff for our moms and we'llbe right back.
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(21:02):
at CK and GK podcast.
And now back to the show.
Okay, we are back, and we justtalked about managing our energy
, and one of the ways that Imanage my energy is by laughing
and talking about silly things,and so I'd like to talk about
our gems and our obsessions.
Uh, debra, do you have anyobsessions right now?

(21:24):
Yes, you don't have to.
Okay, let's hear it.
I mean, I work for two lists.
I have to.
Okay, let's hear it, I'm gonnawork for two lists.
I have to be like it's the twolaps.
So I do.
I do love the two laps.
That was the obvious one, butI'm also obsessed.
I'll get my phone to like pullit up.
It's called.
This is a new obsession.
I just found out about this aweek ago.
Okay, it's called the yuka app,it's y-u-k-a, okay, and it's a

(21:48):
health food app.
But you use it to scan anybarcode and it will give you a
ranking of poor, good, excellentor either.
And so my younger brother toldme about this and I went around
to your pantry and I was like,well, so basically I need an
entire new pantry, because hewas on the phone at Central

(22:09):
Market trying to find bettersnacks for his kids, toddlers,
and so I just pictured him goinginto a store scamming all of
them.
That's great.
And basically we only had twoonions that were good.
They were in the green, butthey gave me a better suggestion
for what you should be buying.
So I did green, but you give mea better suggestion for what

(22:31):
you should be buying.
Telling you, I did send, I didscan a can of black beans
because I knew that has to be,and I was like, hey, look
something in the green.
So you can, if you would like,to feel very shameful about what
you're being.
I'm just thinking about, youknow, the nerd gummy clusters

(22:54):
that I have in my pantry rightnow.
What's that gonna show up.
We're so good.
No, I was like I really wantedto get to the grocery store just
to see, like what's the lowestrate.
What's it gonna be, man?
Oh, the double stuffed oreos.
I mean maybe, I don't know,those gummy clusters might rank

(23:15):
pretty high on that bad foodlist, but that's okay.
Yeah, so the ones with theirred number five.
All right, what's your?
I mean, I have a few right now,but I'm going to share this one
.
This is makeup, because ofcourse it is.
It's Clinique's Almost Lipstick.
It's a lip balm.

(23:38):
This color is called BlackHoney.
It looks good on every singleskin tone that I've seen.
There's all these differentwomen with obviously a wide
range of skin colors all usingthe same one, and I'm going how
does it look gorgeous onseriously every single skin tone
, and it's not so lipstick-ythat it feels like waxy or just

(24:02):
it feels like lip balm.
That will actually, you know,help your lips out when they
feel chapped.
Yeah, did you say honey?
Black honey is what it's called.
Is the color?
It's almost lips, or, yeah,almost lipstick by clinique, and
the color is black honey, andit looks good on everyone.
It's like a mod, not a mavi,but like a maroony.

(24:24):
Yeah, it looks.
Yeah, it looks like a I meanlike a blackberry almost is the
color, but it doesn't come outlike that and it looks really
good on everyone.
I'm really into this.
I really want research on thisbecause I swear to god, I use
that color if it's like andthat's not a not thing was it a

(24:47):
dr pepper?
Was it a bonnie bell lipsmacker?
There was probably one of those.
No, I swear.
You know, I really wish I had atime machine now and I really
my favorite thing about it isthat it's I don't feel like it's
kind of dummy proof.
I can just put it on if I don'thave a camera in front of me,
like basically it's what I usebefore calls to like make myself

(25:09):
look less dead.
Is I put this on and I don'tfeel like it's going to get on
my teeth or it's going to getall over my you know, around my
lips instead of on it, like Ijust I just really like it.
So I recommend almost lipstick.
You can find it on the storethat does the a to z thing and
if you're not interested inbuying from them right now, you
can find it probably anywherethat you can buy Clinique

(25:32):
products With A to Z, the Amazonstore.
Everything from A to Z, that'stheir.
Have you seen them?
No, if you look at their logo,it's got an arrow that goes from
the A to the Z.
Amazon is everything from A toZ.
From the A to the Z.
Amazon is everything from A toZ.
You'll never be able to unseeit now.
It looks like a smile Black,just dropped.

(25:53):
Oh, my god.
So many times I've stared atthe, like I have a life.
But, like when I've looked atthe Amazon logo, I'm like it's a
smile.
Right, it looks like a smile.
It's an arrow from A to Z.
See, learning, things thatgrown-ups like to know.
That's what we're here for.
Very important, but some of thethings I don't know, you, yeah,

(26:23):
no, and then you'll never.
You'll never unsee it.
Now that you look at it, you'llbe be like, oh, what about gems
?
Aside from learning about theand seeing all the stuff in your
pantry that makes you upset,what else Do you have?
Any gems for me Are myobsessions?
Yes, okay.

(26:44):
So, lynn, it's in Austin.
Okay, the whole other cities,your other stores sell it.
It's in Austin, okay, I hope.
Other cities.
I'm sure other stores sell it.
But there's a taco place herecalled El Tacorito and it's not
Tacos are really good, but theyhave a drink called the Iguara
or chato with espresso shots andwe go as like a treat and it is

(27:06):
so good.
You can get a double for like,but it's like you can get a
double, but it's like.
You know, if we're like, oh, wereally really want a coffee
treat, we go is so amazing.
If you like horchata andespresso, the equinox el
taquerito, nice here for it,what about you?
My?

(27:26):
Okay, so this is my son.
I mean, you know my son.
Uh, you've known him for awhile.
I will say last time our kidssaw each other was a while ago,
but he is the same.
So just silly and whatever.
But now, something about thembeing eight or almost nine,
there's like a little bit ofsass that's coming in's like

(27:47):
adult sass, right?
So the other day I'm using aface mask.
This one of my hacks for makingmyself get in the shower is
I'll put on a face mask, andpreferably one that I know will
not burn, because that's not theright word but like tingle a
little bit if I leave it on fortoo long, because then I'm like,

(28:08):
oh my God, I got to get thisoff.
I'll get in the shower and Iwas using another brand I'm
going to throw out there, butit's the Ordinary's AHA, bha
mask and it looks.
It's red, it's like a red sortof slime and you put it on your
face and it's supposed to belike a chemical peel sort of

(28:28):
feeling.
Well, I put it on and I go outinto the living room and my son
so like my face is covered inlike reddish stuff and the first
thing my son says, dead pan.
Gives me one glance, turns awayand he goes you look like a
murderer.
And then, just it looked like amurder.
I need like, yeah, there'sblood all over your face.

(28:48):
Like what'd you do to yourself?
I was like it's a face mask andmy husband's like trying to
keep it together, like becausehe knows I don't want to be made
fun of in this moment becauseI'm clearly desperately trying
to make myself take a shower.
But just the dead pan, you looklike a murderer.
But, thanks, like what, I'm likea murder on the same skin.

(29:10):
I mean, right, right, not everymurderer can look this good,
are you joking?
Uh, yeah, thank you to my sonfor making me feel really great
about this.
Yeah, well, does it make yourskin feel easy?
It, yeah, it tingles a littlebit and they tell you like,

(29:32):
don't leave it on for any morethan like 10 minutes because
you'll feel it, you know.
Um, so I leave it on.
I have more sensitive skins.
I leave it on for like feet andthen I will go get in the
shower.
But, yeah, no, you feel good,like it, it helps, I like it.
So it's the ordinary, which isa nice.
It's a inexpensive, brand, highquality product that I really

(29:52):
love.
So, uh, it just looks for thething that looks like a vial of
blood.
Nice, in a bottle.
Yeah, I love that by your.
Forget what the name of thechemical is by use.
There, they call it botox in abottle.
It's not Botox, but it's just achill off gray forehead wrinkle
.
Yeah, got that stuff too andgot, I got, but I actually use

(30:17):
the Botox.
So there's that.
Um, okay, that feels like agood place to wrap up this
episode.
So we talked about managingyour energy.
Um, and we're going to bedefinitely back next week with
more about managing our time anda better work life balance, and
until then, jenny would tellyou to make good choices.

(30:40):
So I'm going to say do that andtake a few deep breaths, manage
your energy, because that'spart of taking care of yourself.
You know self-care, you deserveit.
Okay, bye.
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