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Ever stand in front of an open fridge for 3 minutes, then eat a fistful of shredded cheese like a goblin? Asking for a friend. This week, we’re serving up real ADHD nutrition hacks (no kale… unless that’s your thing).

Who Should Listen

  • ADHDers who’ve ever meal-planned on Sunday and eaten cereal for dinner by Tuesday.
  • Parents of neurospicy kids who survive on the same 3 foods.
  • Anyone who thinks “rotisserie chicken is a personality trait.”

What You Get In This Episode

  1. The Protein Paradox: Why you need ‘emotional support cheese’ (hint: dopamine boost).
  2. Carbs Aren’t the Enemy: Pair them with protein to avoid hangry meltdowns (e.g., Goldfish + peanuts = survival snack).
  3. Fridge Feng Shui: Hide veggies in the crisper? Bad. Put grapes and yogurt at eye level? Genius.
  4. Sensory Hacks: Like how to make your “safe foods” work harder.
  5. Rotisserie Chicken Worship: How one $8 bird can fuel 3 meals (salad, soup, general garnish).

Actionable Tips

  • Grocery Shortcut: Buy pre-cut veggies/fruit (yes, it’s more expensive—but actually eating them is priceless).
  • Grazing Menu: Keep “protein stations” (e.g., nuts, jerky) where you hyperfocus, like your desk or couch.
  • Texture Fix: Hate mushy food? Try crunchy peanut butter on apple slices instead of sandwiches.

Bios

  • Caitlin (CK): Former teacher who knows exactly which kids are running on 3 Pop-Tarts and ADHDer-mom.
  • Ariella Monti: Novelist who knows the power of cold pizza + a handful of almonds, and ADHD-mom to a neurospicy and food-particular child.

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Caitlin Kindred (00:00):
I only like kind of was half kidding about
my book idea, by the way, aboutmy kid's not very nice and I bet
yours isn't either, becausenine years old is a mess.
Anyway, hi everyone, is yourkid also full of nice days and
not so nice days, because I betthey are.

Ariella Monti (00:21):
They're great.
I'm taking submissions.

Caitlin Kindred (00:24):
Yeah, feel free to send me a DM about how your
kid is and you can use differentwords.
I'm using different wordsbecause I'm censoring myself,
because that's not the realtitle of the book.
If you know, if you're one ofour Arielos and I's good friends
, you probably already know thetitle of the book Anyway.
So this is how to be a grown up.
You probably already know thetitle of the book, anyway.

(00:46):
So this is how to be a grown-up.
This is the how-to show formoms whose brains are a mix of
Wikipedia, the TikTok algorithmand a forgotten crockpot meal,
like we discussed in the lastepisode, which was the
forgetting to turn on thecrockpot and or to thaw the meat
before.
Yay, or both, or both.
Yes.
With me today.
Co-hosting for Jennyenny isnovelist ariela monte, and she

(01:10):
is a firework show of kindnessin a baggy t-shirt, because we
both know this girl loves herbaggy t-shirt I do love my baggy
t-shirt.
Yeah, yeah, I know, I know knowwe are continuing our discussion
of ADHD and food because mymeds make it hard for me to
remember to eat and manage myhunger cues, as you mentioned

(01:34):
and pointed out to me.
So, thank you, and today we'retalking about how to manage
those issues with ADHD years andfood.
But before we do that, I toldyou last week that you should be
following us on social.
Are you doing that yet?
Let me give you a chance to dothat right now.
You can find Ariella at Ariellaunderscore Monty on Instagram
threads she's good on threads,she's got quite the following

(01:57):
there and TikTok, yes, you canfind us at CK and GK podcast.
That's all one word with theword and spelled out in between,
on all the places excepttwitter, because no, thank you,
please, uh and yeah that's adumpster fire it's a dumpster
fire of bots and true socialers.

(02:23):
True socialers don't need Don'tneed to be there.
So, yeah, let's go ahead andcontinue our discussion.
So we talked about the issuesthat ADHDers have around food.
We talked about hyperfixations.
We talked about impulsivity.
We talked about executivedysfunction.
We talked about disorderedeating.

(02:43):
Let's get into managing exactly.

Ariella Monti (02:50):
Redo that, because I don't know why I said
exactly and are the meds kickedin no, they are not.
I don't know that they everkicked in.

Caitlin Kindred (03:02):
To be honest with you, I didn't even take
mine this morning.

Ariella Monti (03:05):
That was bad that was not good, I took mine.
They're just not.
They're not working anymore.

Caitlin Kindred (03:12):
I don't always take them on the weekends,
because which is dumb becausethat's the day that I really
need it, because it helps managemy irritability a lot and my
and everyone's home on theweekends.
So I should be managing, but sousually I'll do like a half
dose, yeah, so I, and now it'stoo late in the day and I can't

(03:34):
do it, so I'm gonna have to doit later tomorrow.
Tomorrow will be the next time.
In the meantime, I'm just gonnasit here and like stim, nice,
that's what I what I do, solet's do it Okay.

Ariella Monti (03:48):
All right.
So last week we talked aboutthe challenges with ADHD and
eating.
Like you said, we talked abouthyper focus, impulsivity,
executive dysfunction and againI would like to say that my
personal recommendation is totalk to your doctor and or a

(04:09):
clinician who is well-versed inADHD and its effects on diet and
health, but from a peer-to-peerwe're coming at this like… A
conversation.

Caitlin Kindred (04:23):
Yeah, exactly Between people who A
conversation.
Yeah, exactly Between peoplewho have it.
Yeah, exactly Right, right,right.

Ariella Monti (04:29):
So working with a professional like a therapist
or a psychiatrist who iswell-versed in ADHD is going to
make the biggest difference Forme.
Medication helped with most ofthe impulsive eating.
Therapy helped with eating myfeelings, which I did quite

(04:55):
often, and working with aregistered dietitian who
specialized in intuitive eatinghelped me learn to listen to my
body and kind of taught me a lotabout the current science of
nutrition.
So I started to feel a lot lessof the shame and guilt spirals
that I was into and beingexacerbated by my ADHD.

Caitlin Kindred (05:20):
Are you going to talk more about this, the RD,
Because I am about to tell youlike, say more.
Like are you?
Are you going to give us someof that information, Because I'm
fascinated by what you learnedthere.

Ariella Monti (05:33):
I don't have anything prepared, but I am
happy to answer any questions.
No, I just mean, like anythingthat you may have mentioned to
you.

Caitlin Kindred (05:44):
Like I've just A little bit yeah.

Ariella Monti (05:45):
Okay, okay, we'll take that conversation off.
Well, and the thing isintuitive, eating could be a
show in and of itself.

Caitlin Kindred (05:53):
Yeah, I was going to say like, that's kind
of where my brain was triggered.
Yeah, yeah, okay, I'll justlook that up.

Ariella Monti (05:59):
Yeah, I was gonna say like that's kind of where
my brain was triggered.
Yeah, yeah, okay, I'll justlook that up.
Yeah, intuitive eating helpedme heal a lot of the food trauma
that I had from, you know,growing up in the 80s and the
90s but intuitive eating, Ithink.
Now that I know that I haveADHD, I think intuitive eating
is helpful, but only if it'ssort of put in the context of

(06:24):
somebody who has ADHD, hungercues and intuitive eating the
biggest part of it is listeningto your body's hunger cues.
Yeah, Like it's a struggle there.

Caitlin Kindred (06:49):
I'm going to pull up.
I have found a couple ofarticles on intuitive eating and
I'll make sure to add those tothe blog post for this episode.
And I'll make sure to add thoseto the blog post for I
apologize completely.
Very helpful, yeah.

Ariella Monti (07:50):
From us to y'all.
Here are some tips and tricksfrom around the web and our
personal experiences for dealingwith ADHD and food struggles.
Take what you need, leave whatyou don't.
Your mileage may vary, so thebiggest thing that I kind of
found sort of in my research andthen just kind of like existing
as a person with ADHD proteinrich foods are really important.

(08:14):
So protein rich foods are usedby the body to make
neurotransmitters which dopamine, our good friend dopamine is
not fully there, oh, my God,someone needs to eat some
protein.

(08:35):
I do Okay, so hold on.

Caitlin Kindred (08:36):
So if let's, yeah, okay.
So if we let me pull thistogether, just to make sure that
you can pull your brain backtogether.
So if protein is what'srequired to make
neurotransmitters and ADHDpeople already are lacking
dopamine, which is aneurotransmitter it would make
sense then that we need tosupply ourselves with more

(08:56):
protein in order to get whatevernatural dopamine we can in that
process.
Yes, yes, Exactly.

Ariella Monti (09:04):
So protein rich foods are made by the body to
needed by the body.
Protein rich foods are used bythe body.
I have a script here.
What is my problem?
So protein rich foods are usedby the.
I'm sorry you're going to havesuch a hell of a time editing

(09:24):
this.

Caitlin Kindred (09:24):
You know what?
That's why I have anotherprogram do the initial pass
through and then I go back in.
It cuts the editing down by alot.

Ariella Monti (09:32):
So there you go Okay.
So protein rich foods are usedby the body to make
neurotransmitters.
Neurotransmitters are chemicalsthat are released by brain
cells to communicate with eachother.
So dopamine, our dear frienddopamine, is a neurotransmitter
and it's essential formaintaining attention and focus

(09:54):
and memory, and emotionalregulation In general.
Yeah, exactly like waking upyour brain.
And so if we're already low ondopamine naturally and we want
to increase the dopamine thatour even if it's a little bit
like, even if our brain doesn'tproduce a lot of dopamine, we

(10:16):
want to get as much as we canout of it.
Yeah, we need to increase ourprotein.
Okay, all that to say, when Iwas pregnant and I had
gestational diabetes, pair mycarbs with a protein.
So if I'm and that was a way toensure that my blood sugar was

(10:47):
staying stable so if I'm cravingbread, I eat the bread with
some cheese.
The protein and the fat in thecheese is not only a more
satisfying snack, it supportsthe leveling of your blood sugar
and it makes you feel fullerlonger.

Caitlin Kindred (11:07):
Yeah, that makes a lot of sense.

Ariella Monti (11:09):
Just kind of thinking about like all right,
I'm craving some kind of carbs.
How can you pair the carb witha protein?
So say, you really want to eata cookie.
Cookie is full of carbs, rightFull of sugar.

(11:30):
Maybe pair it with some peanutbutter.

Caitlin Kindred (11:36):
Oh.

Ariella Monti (11:36):
I was going to say something gross.

Caitlin Kindred (11:39):
It's going to be like fish.
I just just to mess no, just tomess people up and be
disgusting.
I was.
I was really wondering whatyou're going to put that with, I
feel, as I was searching mybrain for what connection could
go with that cookie.
So I was going to.
That's why I was just going toinject something disgusting.

Ariella Monti (12:07):
There you go.
Here are less gross ways to addprotein to your meals
Rotisserie, chicken, on all thethings.
So if you get, yeah, Aldi, Idon't know if this is like a
thing all Aldis have, but theAldi near us has like
pre-chopped and packagedrotisserie chicken and man, I
use that for everything.

Caitlin Kindred (12:27):
That's so smart .

Ariella Monti (12:30):
Yeah, you can during the winter.
I don't do it now because it'slike a thousand degrees outside,
but during the winter I willget the Panera heat and serve
soup like broccoli, cheddar orbaked potato, and they usually
they sell it also at Aldi or atthe grocery store or even Costco
.
And I will heat the soup in ain a on the stove instead of the

(12:55):
microwave, because then I canmore easily throw rotisserie
chicken into it.
And so now I've added a proteinto this soup.

Caitlin Kindred (13:06):
I did the same thing.
That's so smart.

Ariella Monti (13:09):
I'll do the same thing with boxed mac and cheese.
So, like your regular, likecraft macaroni and cheese.
After I get everything mixed,mixed up, I will throw
rotisserie chicken into it.
So now I've got, you know, thechicken and the, the carbs, just
rotisserie chicken, like on allthe things.

(13:30):
Um, great, like salad kits.

Caitlin Kindred (13:32):
sorry, I'm just thinking like, yes me, if I use
a salad kit, now I can.
That's so smart, cause I know Ia lot of our listeners are in
Texas and Texans love our HEV.
Like I don't know if my HEV mylocal one sells the rotisserie
chicken already broken down,cause that's my big hurdle with
rotisserie chicken is having tolike rip it apart, like, oh,

(13:53):
come on.
It's just such yeah, yeah, yeah,pain, no, uh, yeah, I'd rather
like honestly bake the chickenmyself than deal with them right
pulling it apart, but okay, butI'll look right, okay, smart,
yes, yeah, definitely looked forlike pre-chopped up rotisserie
chicken and like the differencebetween, like you know, a
neurotypical and an ADHD person.

Ariella Monti (14:15):
So my husband, he , he will bake, like in the
beginning of the week, he willbake chicken or grilled chicken
to use for salads or whateverfor the entire week.
But I cannot, I don't have itLike, I don't have the executive
function for it.

(14:35):
So that's where the rotisseriechicken comes in.
Or even frozen breaded chicken.
That's what I use on top of thesalad kits.
It's frozen chicken that I heatup in the air fryer so it's
crispy and it's like a fry.
It's like a fried chicken salad, but without the fried chicken

(14:58):
like all of the oil and stufffrom the fired chicken.
I like it um other stuff to dogreek yogurt in different, mixed
into different things likesmoothies.
If you're a smoothie person,canned tuna is good, with
crackers, frozen edamame, youcan eat it alone as a snack or
you can eat it with stuffhard-boiled eggs that are.

(15:22):
You can either buy them alreadyhard-boiled or you can just
like bulk hard-boil them.
That's what my husband does.
He'll like hard boil like adozen.
Now, remember, we have chickens, so yeah, so it's easy.

Caitlin Kindred (15:36):
It's easy for you guys to do that Right?

Ariella Monti (15:39):
Yes, yeah, so.
So we'll like bulk hard boileggs, cheese sticks or cheese
cubes kind of eaten with likeanything.
Those are kind of easy ways tojust kind of like add protein to
your meal to just kind of likeadd protein to your meal.

Caitlin Kindred (16:04):
Yeah, I was thinking my, my co-workers and I
have a thing that we callemotional support cheese.
Yes, and sometimes you justneed a little cheese in your
life.
We all, we all love cheese,right?
So if we, if we can handle, ifour bodies don't reject the
cheese, yeah, um, but there'slike you can get them.
You can get it pre-cubed, whichI realize is like not ideal,
right, like it's more expensivethat way and all that.

(16:25):
But if you just don't have thespoons to chop it up yourself,
you can do that.
There's also, like at Costco,you can get bulk.
The brand is Tillamook that I'mthinking of.
But like those, it's like amini little cheese cube.
It's like the half the size ofa credit card.
Oh, I will.
I.
That's my emotional supportcheese.

(16:45):
I'll have my little, my littlelunch, and it always includes
like a little little Tillamookthing of cheese or the little
baby bell things.
Those are good too.
The little cheese rounds youcan get those are big help for
adding a little bit of that.

Ariella Monti (16:55):
Yeah, and that's a good segue to another
suggestion, which is to simplifyyour grocery list.
So part of simplifying yourgrocery list is to buy the
pre-cooked things, buy thepre-cut things.
So like yes, yes, there is whatwe call like the adhd tax, so a

(17:17):
salad kit is more expensivethan getting the lettuce and the
carrots and all the individualingredients.
Like, yeah, a salad kit is moreexpensive, but consider which
you're more likely to eat andwhich one is going to become a
science experiment in yourrefrigerator.

Caitlin Kindred (17:39):
Yep.

Ariella Monti (17:40):
So true, you know , so true.
Right, like we are, more, I ammore likely, even if I, even if
I only use a portion of thesalad kit, mm-hmm.
I'm still more likely to eat ithit, I'm still more likely to

(18:02):
eat it, yeah, I'm still morelikely to eat it than if I have
to cut up some lettuce.
Wash some lettuce.
Cut up some, even if I get thelike the salad, you know the
bagged lettuce, bagged lettuce,yeah, and all that you know.
Make sure you're washing thatnow, because you know food
safety Hysteria, yeah.
So make sure you're washingthat now, because you know food
safety Hysteria.
Yeah, so make sure you'rewashing all that stuff.
But yeah, I am more likely toeat a salad if I just get, if I

(18:28):
just spend the however manydollars it is on the individual
salad kit, than if I buy theingredients separately.
So so if you can do that, ifyou can afford it, do that.
You know.
Get the stuff that's pre-cooked, get the stuff that's pre-cut,
because it is important.
Nutrition is important and ifsaving a prep step is going to

(18:56):
allow you to get propernutrition, then you should do it
.
Yeah, you should absolutely doit.
Other ways to simplify yourgrocery list is to buy staples
and then identify what you cando with those staples.
So, like I talked about therotisserie chicken, so like I

(19:16):
talked about the rotisseriechicken, so it's like I get the
rotisserie chicken and then Ikind of write down what I can do
with the rotisserie chicken,because very often I will buy a
thing and then forget what Iwanted to use the thing for.
So if I know I got to getrotisserie chicken, what am I

(19:36):
going to use the rotisseriechicken for?
I'm going to use rotisseriechicken for X, y and Z, and then
I can get you know threedifferent kinds of meals out of
one specific ingredient.

Caitlin Kindred (19:53):
Yep, yep, absolutely.

Ariella Monti (20:09):
And the other one is graze small meals instead of
large meals.
Yep, yep, absolutely.
That is going to make the mostsatisfying and satiating meal
and just kind of eat everycouple of hours, instead of like
eating in the morning and thenwaiting four or five hours to
eat in the afternoon and thenwaiting four or five hours Like

(20:31):
just just eat throughout the day.
Yeah, have a little snack.

Caitlin Kindred (20:35):
Yeah, I heard, heard this tip just going back
to the grocery store thingsaying buy the staples.
The other thing that I'venoticed a lot of, again, adhd
people do, especially withproduce, because we all are very
well-meaning or we're like, yes, we hyper fixate on the I'm
gonna have so many stinking babycarrots, like.
Sometimes baby carrots becomelike my, my hyper fixation.

(20:59):
Food with hummus, like it'sbeen a it's been a regular thing
for me.
Um, I saw this tip instead ofputting your condiments in the
door of your fridge, put yourfruits and vegetables in the
door of your fridge.

(21:19):
Yes, your condiments can go inthe drawer.
Yes, because one, you're goingto put them in the drawer and
you're going to forget theyexist.
Because out of sight, out ofmind, right.
But when you need ketchup, youwon't forget that your ketchup
exists.
You'll know that it's in there,right.
Right, so you'll be able to goin there and get that out.
And when the other stuff is ontop of or in the front of your

(21:45):
face, you will remember thatit's there.
That might also help you to eatit more regularly.
And then again, which Imentioned before, when I in the
previous episode, when I getgrapes or something like that,
if I know it's something that'sgoing to require work to eat it
like grapes or strawberries, Ioften will put my groceries away
, like all at once, because I'mlike I have to put it away, I

(22:05):
got to get it all out of hereand it, because it makes me
anxious, use that energy, thatto that channeling of, of
anxiety, of like the compulsionto put things away or whatever
it is when you get the groceriesto then also wash whatever
produce you need to wash at thattime, so that it's ready to go,
and all you have to do is graba handful of grapes out of your

(22:27):
little cup from the door in yourfridge and then you don't have
to worry about, you know,finding it, losing track of it,
washing it later, whatever, itis Just a tip that helped us,
that helped me.

Ariella Monti (22:43):
I did it a couple of years ago where I also got
that tip.
I saw it somewhere, maybeTikTok, to put the condiments in
the crisper drawers and put allof the produce kind of in the
doors, and it was a game changerbecause it's there.

Caitlin Kindred (23:03):
You see it every time you open it up, so
you're less likely to reach forthe dumb stuff, exactly so.

Ariella Monti (23:09):
And not even though now, like we don't put
the, even now, the vegetablesand the produce and stuff are
not in the doors.
Though we have stuff in thedoors that we get frequently,
the produce and stuff is still.
It's in the main part of therefrigerator.

Caitlin Kindred (23:29):
But it's in front of your face.

Ariella Monti (23:31):
It's in front of our face.
It's not hidden in the crisper.
That's where, like the picklesand the mayo and like all of
that stuff goes in the crisper.
So, you know, rot in and ofitself, but it'll take a couple
of years.

Caitlin Kindred (23:47):
Right, right, exactly.
Better to have the things withthe longer shelf life in the
drawers where you don't look atthem all the time.

Ariella Monti (23:56):
Right, exactly.
So, yeah, yeah, but that isanother good segue to just
random things that you knowworked for us, so that worked
for me.
Another thing that works for myfamily in general is because my

(24:17):
son also has ADHD, but he hasavoidant, restrictive food
intake disorder, so it's a ADHDrelated eating disorder, and he
only really eats pizza from oneplace and it's a takeout place
from near, you know, near us.

(24:38):
So we will get like last nightwe had pizza.
We get two pies.
One pie is the one that we eatthat night.
Everything else gets wrapped upand put in the freezer and then
all we have to do is throw aslice into the air fryer and
that is what my kid eats.

(24:59):
You know, pretty much every dayfor dinner he'll have a slice
of slice of pizza.
But just, I can't tell you likehow many times I've needed
something to eat and I will justgrab a cold slice of pizza out
of the fridge or I will reheat aslice of pizza in the air fryer

(25:19):
for myself.
Like, having those things readyto go is it's a big deal really
?
Yeah, it's a big deal.
It's really helpful when you'rehungry and you just need
something to eat and you don'twant it to be something that is
void of nutrients.

Caitlin Kindred (25:41):
I'm a big fan of like of seasoned almonds,
like roasted almonds with somesort of and like I really I've
talked about this before likethe chili lime salt ones that we
can get at H-E-B are reallygreat.
Or like wasabi and soy.
I think they're probably alittle salty, they're probably a
little high in salt, but Iusually try to pair that with

(26:01):
lately it's been a smoothie.
Uh, I'm a big, I'd hyper fixateon smoothies fairly regularly
and with that I would say if youare, if you're someone who can
tolerate smoothies, I can'ttolerate them with greek yogurt
in them.
I know that they're good forthe protein piece, but I just it
does something to the flavorand the texture for me that I
just can't get past.

(26:22):
So I make mine with orangejuice and I make sure to put
like plenty of banana in there.
You know, the unsung hero ofthe smoothie is the banana and I
and all the stuff I put in, Idon't use fresh fruit, I use
frozen fruit, because it makesthe texture better and I can and
it doesn't go bad.
Bad.
I don't have to worry about mybananas going bad and then
having to peel them and then putthem in.
It just is not worth it to me.

(26:44):
So I just buy packaged, alreadysliced, frozen bananas and then
and you can even buy them inlike fruit mixtures, right, so
you could do like a berrysmoothie, but it's all the stuff
already mixed together.
And then one of the things I'lldo when I have the spoons for it
is I'll put them into likethose silicone bags, and it's
already pre-measured and all Ihave to do is take the bag out

(27:06):
with the juice and pop it intothe little bullet and and blend
it up.
And the nice thing about that,too, is the bullet comes with
those little cups that can thenlike be turned like it's the
blender cup, but it's thenbecomes your drink cup and you
just put in a straw and walkaway, right, like that's a
really good way to get some ofthose, get those servings of
fruit that you really need.

(27:27):
And if you're, if you're,awesome about putting spinach in
there, do that too.
Like spinach is better thanputting kale in a smoothie, and
for me, the flavor is better, Ithink they're both gross and for
me the flavor is better.
I think they're both gross.
When I was pregnant I did a lotof putting the spinach in
because of that, like folic acidand all that stuff.
Yeah, yeah, um.
I don't do it so much now and Ishould, but when I eat salad I

(27:51):
typically prefer to have spinachsalad instead of other stuff,
so I feel like I get a goodamount of it there.
But those, that's another goodone.
That's one of my adhd safe.
I like the.
The almonds and smoothies are abig one for me Because I don't
get sick of the textures.

Ariella Monti (28:08):
I am not a smoothie person because I'm not
a liquid calories person.
Like I just, even if I like asmoothie, if the smoothie tastes
good, I won't finish it.
Like I need to have it in.
Smoothie tastes good, I won'tfinish it.
Oh, I get that Like I need tohave it in such, you know, small
quantities, because I won't,and I'm like that with a lot of
beverages.

(28:28):
But my, the way I kind of add alittle bit of, add a little bit
of protein to like my yogurtwhich I do, like I'll have
vanilla Greek yogurt I get umthe shelled hemp hearts and just
like sprinkle like a handful ofthat on my yogurt and it kind

(28:50):
of adds a little bit of textureto the yogurt.
I also put granola in therebecause I need something kind of
crunchy with like I don't know.
Like I don't like when myyogurt is like like the
consistency of ice cream, like Iwant.
I want my ice cream to be theconsistency of ice cream, but I
don't want, like my yogurt, tojust be without anything.

(29:13):
I need something crunchy.

Caitlin Kindred (29:15):
Yeah, I have a thing about texture though.
So, like for me, I don't wantchunks of fruit in my yogurt
because that really grosses meout, so I'd rather have smooth
yogurt than not.
But I can do the granola inthere, like that I can do.
It's just the like soggy, likesuper soft fruit.

(29:36):
It's why I don't really do muchpie, honestly, because I can't
stand the feeling of soggy fruit.
The flavor is always delicious,I just don't like the texture
of it.
But think about what are thethings that, when we're talking
about the things that are safefor you, what are the things
that you know you won't gettired of the texture?

(29:57):
What are the things that youknow are easy to prep?
What are the things?
And then look for healthyoptions so that you know you
won't get tired of the texture.
What are the things that youknow are easy to prep?
What are the things?
And then look for healthyoptions.
So, if you know you likecrunchy things have almonds in
your house, have granola in yourhouse.
If you know that you should beeating more yogurt but you can't
stand the texture, but you dolike crunchy, do exactly what
Ariella said Put somethingcrunchy in there to kind of to

(30:18):
ease that ick feeling that youget from certain foods that you
don't like, because that's theother piece of it too is that,
like there's a sensory thingthat comes with food.
It's not just the sensory, likepleasure of eating sour or
whatever things, it's also theavoidance that comes with
certain senses that we just, orsensations that we can't handle.

(30:40):
So, um, yeah, those are my two.
Those are probably my twobiggest ones is having frozen
fruit in the house and almonds.
Like I probably eat almondsevery, every single day.

Ariella Monti (30:52):
I think I do these mixed nuts from from Aldi
and I just kind of keep themaround, like, like I try to have
them on my desk so that if I amhyper-focused on something, on
a project, and I am starting tofeel hungry, I can just eat a
few handfuls so that when I'mdone with whatever I'm working

(31:16):
on, I'm not hangry Like I mightstill be hungry, but I'm but
you're not raging.

Caitlin Kindred (31:20):
Yeah, I'm not hangry Like I might still be
hungry, but I'm not raging.

Ariella Monti (31:22):
Yeah, I'm not raging.
Like I can now, like I'm okayto like, make myself something
to eat, not, oh, my god, I needto shove something into my face
before I pass out or murdersomebody.

Caitlin Kindred (31:37):
Thing I've done .
This is not about a safe, safefood, but the thing that helps
me with like the textures andthe impulsivity of things is I
will portion foods ahead of timetoo.
So, like you know, things thatcome in snack packs are more
expensive, but you could snackpack them yourself, right, um,
so that you, you portion themout ahead time.

(31:58):
One thing I'll do is I havethose like silicone muffin,
whatever they're called wrappers.
Do you know what I'm talkingabout?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And you can put one of thosewith your thing of mixed nuts
and then you know, like, this ishow much I'm going to eat right
now, and then if you're proneto, you know, getting multiple

(32:19):
handfuls of them and you knowit's, it's going to be a problem
, you know, put that away.
The other, the other thing Ilike.
I have weird sensory thingsabout my hands, so, like this is
a lot of this is my weird,random ick that I'm going to
share with all of you.
I don't like when one hand iswet, because I don't like drying
one hand.
The way that the towel feels onthe dry hand and the wet hand

(32:42):
at the same time just makes mereally uncomfortable.
And there's some foods thatlike leave dust and stuff on
your hands, so then you end uphaving to like get it off your
hand with water.
So I have those fingerchopsticks which I've talked
about on this show with Jenny.

Ariella Monti (32:56):
We're like I don't have to.

Caitlin Kindred (32:58):
I don't have to touch the food Right.
It keeps my hands clean and Ican use that.
I can put it on my fingers, Ican keep typing and I can get my
little.
I can use my little fingerchopsticks and get my almond
with that that has like salt onthe edge and not have to, you
know, get one hand wet to rinseit off, like little things like

(33:18):
that.
That sound strange, but help meThings that I know are better
for me, without like completelybeing turned off by like sensory
wise, completely beingdisgusted by what's in front of
me.
Yeah, absolutely.
Slice the tomatoes ahead oftime, get all the squirty juice

(33:38):
out, because that stuff's grossfor me, but then I can eat the
tomato, which is good for me.
See how that works.
There you go.
Anyway, those are my randomthings, weird but works.

Ariella Monti (33:52):
I, even though I put the notes together for this
show, can't really think of myrandom things at the moment.
You'll think of it later.

Caitlin Kindred (34:01):
If you have one , we'll put it in social for the
episode, so don't stress aboutthat In the meantime.
Next week we're going to betalking about ADHD and parenting
, so that's a big topic.
We're going to talk aboutparenting the ADHD child and

(34:23):
some tips and tricks to do that,but also parenting the ADHD
child as a person who also hasADHD, so it'll be another
two-parter.
Make sure you stick around forthat.
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Anyway, yeah, we're back.
Is there anything you're hyperfixated on right now, or just I
don't think so, okay, you knowI've been, I've been doing a lot

(35:34):
of lately.

Ariella Monti (35:35):
I'd love to know burning candles I go through, so
I go through phases withburning candles where I will
have them.
I haven't really bought.
I have them but I won't reallyuse them because I'm afraid of
burning down my house.
But so recently, or like amonth or so ago, I bought a few

(36:04):
candles from F-ing CandleCompany.
I love them, yeah.
So full disclosure.
The owner and I go way back tolike first grade.

Caitlin Kindred (36:16):
Really.
Yeah, I didn't know that that'sso cool.

Ariella Monti (36:20):
Yeah.
So I was filling in my parentslike, hey, this is what she's up
to these days.
And when I was telling themabout some of these candle names
and stuff, my son was like ohhey, that's hilarious.
And start screaming, you know?

Caitlin Kindred (36:39):
the patriarchy.
Yeah, exactly, it's my lastyeah exactly Right, right, right
so.

Ariella Monti (36:45):
so of course I went and bought them um, but now
, because I have them and theysmell so good, I've just been
using them like that's awesome.
Like every day.
I've got that one which itsmells really good, and then for
one I have to do all of thelike boring business stuff.
This one is head B in charge,nice, so that's Nice, I like it,

(37:10):
like, yeah, so yeah, that'swhat I've been, that's what I've
been kind of kind of intolately.

Caitlin Kindred (37:16):
Our good friend Joey got me one that says per
my last email, and I love thatone.
Yeah, I, that one's great, butuh, it's, those are fun.
I we've talked about my lampbefore on this.
Show my candle lamp.
That just is the candle warmerthat's, that's been a game
changer for me.

(37:37):
I have that on all the time.
My hyper fixation is stupidagain.
But my husband recently got wedon't we're not a big video game
house.
He was when he was younger, asevery 20 year old is right like
but he learned that the newMadden game was going to be out

(37:57):
on PS5 and he was like I need toplay it.
So what did he do?
He bought a PS5.
Was like I need to play it.
So what did he do?
He bought a ps5.
Now as well, right as right,just like what?
Okay, um, because apparentlywe're 20 again.
You know, whatever.
Not that there's anything wrongwith grown men playing video
games.
If it becomes a problem, that'sa different issue.

(38:17):
My, my husband is a grown-up.
And then I'll come out andhe'll be like playing call of
duty and he's making his likeconcentration face for his
tongue's like, and I'll stick itout of his like all right, yeah
, you're a grown-up.
Look at you playing your videogames.
Um, and then what did I do?
I immediately found what Ibelieve to be the cutest little

(38:38):
game.
It's so precious.
You know, like how cute therobots are in wally.
That's how cute.
This little robot is anastrobot and apparently it's
like a super well-known game.
But I don't know anything aboutvideo games so I didn't right
yeah, no but so, like I started,I made my husband buy me
astrobot, like you're gonna buy.

(38:59):
Madden sam gets spider-Man andSpider-Man 2.
I get a game, I want a game.
I get to play and I'm in chargenow and I play Astro Bot and
it's so cute, so cute.
That's amazing, it's just alittle boy who's like going and
rescuing his robot friends.
I'm like you're just the cutestlittle thing.

(39:20):
Like I'm not even like obsessedwith playing it, I just like
how cute he is.
He's my little hyper fixationright now.
He's so precious.
He'll like stop.
If you stop, like running himin through the game, he'll be
like hello, hello and he'slooking for his little friends.
And it's like sometimes hestops and flosses like does the
little dance?

Ariella Monti (39:40):
You're just like you're so cute.

Caitlin Kindred (39:43):
Why are you so sweet?
I loved Wally.
I thought he was precious.
I thought Eve was precious.
That's kind of the vibe.
It's like this little, thiscute little.
Anyway, that's my little hypo.
That's it right now.

Ariella Monti (39:54):
How precious he is.

Caitlin Kindred (39:55):
Yeah, did you get anything done recently?
Because video games tend to getin the way of me getting things
done.
So that's why I'm asking like,did you?

Ariella Monti (40:08):
get anything finished.
I, that sounds like a no.

Caitlin Kindred (40:10):
I I feel like I did that's but, I don't know
why is it so hard for us toremember stuff like that?

Ariella Monti (40:17):
I don't know.
I used to, when I, when I usedto do, I think I I wrote a blog
post for y'all about it, my gladjournaling, yeah, yeah yeah,
and the a was is foraccomplishment, and that was
great because, like that day, Icould be like here's the stuff I
accomplished, here's the stuffthat I got done.
I I did get you know what I diddo.

(40:40):
I did organize a lot of my eventstuff after I got back from a
book convention in Savannah, Iwas able to kind of organize a
lot of my book stuff and myevent stuff, because I'm going
to another event or I have acouple of events on my calendar

(41:02):
or I have a couple of events onmy calendar.
So having all of that stuffsort of organized in a way that
will make traveling easier andset up easier is good.
So I did get quite a bit ofthat done, that's good, we had a
lot of boxes.

Caitlin Kindred (41:21):
You know like how sometimes all the deliveries
just tend to come at once.
Yes, yeah.
And it was just so many boxesand I finally got all of those
Like that felt so good to likewalk back down our front entry
hall and not have just boxesthat were half empty and

(41:43):
partially broken down like justwhy, like I'm sure, we look like
a bunch of people who just likego through so much crap because
of the amount of boxes we justput out on the front like in the
recycle.
But I was just so glad to getthem out there was just so many
of them.

Ariella Monti (41:59):
It was awful yeah so yeah, it was like that for
us like a month or so ago.
They were just like piling upon the deck because I live out
in the country and we burn ourboxes, yeah, yeah, so.
so yeah, we like we had them outon the deck because they were
just like piling up inside thehouse.
But now, thankfully, but.

(42:19):
But then the issue I ran intois when, now I'm trying to
organize stuff, I heard there'sa couple of like garage sales
going on.
It's like fundraising, yeah.
So I'm trying to get stufftogether to donate it and I'm
like I need a box.

Caitlin Kindred (42:38):
And.
I don't have how many goodboxes I have Like, oh, this is a
good box I should save.
Yeah, I feel, save this.
Yeah, I feel like that's athing that you start saying once
you're in your 30s.

Ariella Monti (42:47):
Right Like this is a good box.

Caitlin Kindred (42:49):
We're going to hang on to this.
Yes, for something we can useit.
Yes, I use them for takingthings to donation facilities.

Ariella Monti (42:57):
I get it.

Caitlin Kindred (42:58):
Yep, this conversation has officially
derailed, so I think that meansit's time for us to medicate or
eat, or both, I don't know.
Either way, make some goodchoices, find those ADHD safe
foods and love you mean it, okay, bye, bye.
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