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Caitlin Kindred (00:00):
Hello and
welcome to Hi.
Sorry.
What for what?
There's nothing to be talkingabout.
We are all just a mess here.
And the fact that you even saidhi is it tells me that you're
paying attention.
So that's good job.
All right.
Well, welcome to How to Be aGrown Up.
(00:22):
This is the show, the how-toshow for moms who sit in the
school pickup line and scrollsocial media for self-care.
I used to do that when I beforemy son rode the bus.
I would sit in the carpool lineor the whatever that pickup
line is and just scroll awaywhile I waited because otherwise
I didn't get a parking spot ifI didn't go early enough, right?
Ariella Monti (00:42):
I would I yes, I
I sometimes did that, but I am
more likely to be the parentwho's gonna leave their house at
the very last minute so that Ican just roll into the parking
lot.
That's smart.
It's smart.
Yeah.
Especially I mean it'snecessary.
It's a necessity.
(01:03):
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's a necessity in my areabecause otherwise I will get
caught at an intersection whereI am waiting for like 10, 15
minutes to be able to get my carinto the school.
That's the point.
Yeah, no, if it makes moresense to go later, then just go
later.
Right.
(01:24):
Exactly.
Exactly.
Caitlin Kindred (01:25):
Anyway, uh,
that's Ariella.
She is a novelist and a redwoodtree of wisdom with a side of
glitter roots.
Oh wow.
I know, right?
I feel like that's too tight.
I'm that
Ariella Monti (01:38):
redwood trees are
very tall though, and people
are gonna get the wrongimpression and think I'm tall.
But they're wisdom is so yeah.
So I'm gonna get I am tall withwisdom.
Yes, exactly.
Short in stature, but tall inwisdom.
Caitlin Kindred (01:55):
I think between
the two of us we might hit 10
feet.
No, yeah.
Yeah, no, we totally would.
Like 10 and a half feet.
Okay, well, you're taller thanme then, because I'm only five,
too.
I'm tiny.
Ariella Monti (02:09):
Yeah, same.
Right?
Wait, yeah.
Five is ten.
Caitlin Kindred (02:15):
Right.
Guys, I swear we have contenttoday.
All right.
Uh I'm Caitlin, by the way,too.
Um today we're talking aboutthis is a much lighter topic.
And I think this is us sort ofwinding down this ADHD series
we've been doing.
Um, but we're talking aboutADHD and social media, but
(02:35):
specifically we're talking aboutour favorite ADHD resources and
content creators, aside fromus.
We don't do ADHD content fulltime.
These are these are uhprimarily ADHD content creators,
is what we're looking at here.
So um, but I'm not gonna tellyou anyone else to follow yet
unless you're following us.
(02:57):
So go follow at Ariellaunderscore Monty on Instagram
and Threads.
She's got a good followingthere, and she's big fun on
threads, so make sure you'rethere.
And then follow us at CKNGKpodcast on Instagram and threads
and anywhere else you get yourcontent except for Twitter,
because no, thank you, please.
So yeah.
(03:19):
I you know what is no
Ariella Monti (03:21):
I'm even on
Tumblr.
No Twitter.
Like I don't know, post on itoften, but I am on Tumblr.
I mean, that feels old school.
Caitlin Kindred (03:31):
I we're also on
Reddit, but uh I don't really
like I don't really have thelike the name is not I don't
know.
I'm just there for I'm therefor info more than anything
else.
So I don't advertise thereanyway.
That said, we don't havesources and mentions today
because literally everythingwe're doing is sharing sources.
Sources, yeah.
(03:51):
Yeah.
So just let's get into it.
Cool.
I'll start with please do.
These are you guys we divvy upnotes and we like decide who's
gonna do what.
And this is prime this is hertopic.
So was it like okay?
Did I give you the idea?
(04:12):
Probably, yes.
But also, this is the one thatyou were gonna do.
So please do start us and I'llgo into some of mine later.
Guys, I don't think thecoffee's kicked in or the meds,
or I haven't taken mine.
So there's that.
No.
Oh yeah.
I don't weekends are my myforget my meds days.
(04:35):
So anyway, let's go ahead andget to it.
I s we're starting here.
No, let's let's get into it.
Okay, so we're we'll start byuh talking about my uh we'll
start by starting over.
This I'm looking at this list,and this particular person
you're gonna mention first islike my north star of content
(04:59):
for moms in particular,especially moms our age, uh with
ADHD.
This woman is amazing.
Go ahead.
Yeah, so I would like tointroduce you to Casey Davis,
aka struggle care.
She is my lord and savior whenit comes to ADHD parenting and
(05:21):
just kind of ADHD adulting, buther focus primarily is kind of
this like house home parentingrelationships niche for ADHD.
So she's great for middle-agedmoms, she's great for
(05:42):
neurodivergent moms who haveneurodivergent children, and
most of her content is on TikTokand Instagram.
I think she's most active onTikTok.
She had a gr has a greatpodcast, the struggle struggle
care podcast.
That is where I get most of mycontent from her these days, and
(06:07):
it's it's phenomenal.
I don't, I think she kind ofslowed down a bit because she's
in the process of publishing asecond book.
Her first book, How to KeepHouse While Drowning, is
wonderful.
It is a tiny little book, andit is written in an ADHD
friendly format.
It's super cool.
(06:30):
It's the way she has itorganized is there's there's a
lot of white space, a lot ofbullet points, a lot of you
know, highlighting and call-outboxes for important, like
important information.
And there's like it's almostlike choose your own adventure
(06:52):
because there'll be parts of itwhere it's like, if this doesn't
apply to you, skip to this, youknow, and it so you can move
through it very, very easily.
It it was the inspiration forwhen I formatted my books, like
my novels.
I made them, I formatted themin an ADHD friendly way.
(07:15):
And it was because of her bookthat I even knew that was a
thing.
So yeah, if you are notfamiliar with Casey Davis, aka
struggle care, she's absolutely,absolutely phenomenal.
She's one of those creators toowho like became I think TikTok
is her is her main space becausethat's where she kind of rose
(07:39):
to popularity.
Like her stuff started goingviral, and lots of especially
moms started resonating withwhat she was saying.
And then she got the podcastand wrote the book and all these
other things.
And she's been very open abouther her own struggles in her
life, having gone through somepretty traumatic things, and
then also how she overcamethose.
(08:00):
And she's now a count, likeshe's a certified counselor, um,
and has like a a legitimatebackground in supporting people
with neurodivergent children andneurodivergent people
themselves, but also those whostruggled with some like life
choices and things that they'renot proud of and are on on a
road to changing their life.
(08:22):
So um highly recommend her justshe's just so full of real talk
and there's so much compassionin what she does.
It's it's a really she's areally important person in this
space.
So if you're if you're notfamiliar, I would highly
recommend at least following heron TikTok and Instagram for
like short sound bites.
Um, but the podcast isphenomenal.
She's where we got the organizor organization, organizing.
(08:46):
That was what I was gonna say.
So tidying and organizing arenot the same thing, and neither
is cleaning.
So those are three separatethings, and that's where I got
that from, is Casey Davis.
So definitely.
Without Katie Osborne, alsoknown as Katie Osaurus, I don't
think I would have gotten anADHD diagnosis because yeah,
(09:10):
absolutely.
Yeah, she came across my foryou page on TikTok kind of at
the right time, and her ADHDcontent was so relatable, and we
were already starting to kindof go through that process with
my son, and so all one thingkind of led to another, and I
(09:36):
definitely credit her for beingone of the reasons why I got an
ADHD diagnosis.
She's great for kind of ADHD101.
So if you were like, hey, thisstuff is really relatable, and
also kind of understanding yourdiagnosis, like she's really
great at taking the way the ADHDbrain works and explaining it
(10:03):
in a way that makes sense andlike you feel very seen and very
validated.
Her specific niche these daysis the intersection of ADHD and
sex and ADHD and relationships,which is so so fascinating.
(10:28):
Um, she also does a lot withADHD and tabletop role-playing
games, which I do not play, so II don't know anything about
that specific area of hercontent.
She is still mostly on TikTok,Instagram.
She's YouTube is where her mostof her content is for long form
(10:50):
videos.
She has a new-ish podcast now,partnership with understood.org.
Um, I've been listening to itwhile I walk on the track, and I
say that as though I've beendoing it forever, but really it
was just the last week.
Um feel that in my bones, girl.
(11:10):
Yeah.
But it's great because they'relike 20 to 30 minutes, and you
know, I just like listen whileI'm like going around the track.
And it's just got a book onADHD and relationships coming
out soon.
Um, but yeah, she is absolutelyphenomenal.
And if you're not familiar withyour with her work, it it's
(11:33):
definitely one to dive into.
I am pretty sure she's thereason that I have a diagnosis
too, because you sort I startedsaying these things and you were
like, that sounds a little, itwas like beeping on the on the
on the radar, like so.
Then you started sending me herstuff, and I was like, this is
a little too on the nose for me.
(11:54):
Um, and then you got yourdiagnosis, and then I went and
and got mine fairly shortlyafter that.
I will say her content is alittle not safe for work at
times.
So not all of it.
I mean, as you mentioned,that's what her content is
about.
Um, but just know that she sheis not only sweary, but she's
(12:17):
talking about topics that arenot for children's ears.
So she is an earbuds-increator.
She is not a like have playingloudly.
Uh Katie Katie O'Source, in away, Casey Davis can be like
that, but typically she's more,she'll just drop a swear here
and there.
She's not usually talking aboutother not safer work content,
(12:38):
but Katie Osborne will betalking about.
So just keep that in mind.
Yeah.
It is very helpful if you arein a if you are neurodivergent
yourself in a relationship withsomeone who is neurotypical, or
if you're both neurodivergent, Iwould highly recommend her
content for navigatingrelationship issues.
So yeah, yeah.
I've been sending stuff.
I've been sending the podcastepisodes to my husband.
(13:01):
Yeah, like, eh, here.
Yeah, you should listen tothis.
I don't know that he will.
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah, that's how mine is too.
Anyway, yeah, yeah.
For neurodivergent parents withADHD children, or just parents
with ADHD children, though ifthey are your biological
children, somebody in thatfamily is likely ADHD.
(13:25):
Yeah, that apple didn't fallfar.
Just I'm just just gonna throwit out there.
I think we said before too,like if you if all of your
friends are neurodivergent,maybe take a look in the mirror,
as you probably are too.
But also if you haveneurodivergent children and it's
not your partner, right?
(13:45):
Look in the mirror.
Yeah, yeah.
Um Dr.
Carrie Jackson, she is a PhD,and her content is she's mostly
on Instagram from what I'veseen.
I've been following her for awhile, and she does really great
content geared towards parentswho have ADHD children, and
(14:07):
she's got workshops and webinarsand that kind of professional
content.
If you want to take kind of thestuff that you get from her
Instagram and stuff, you know,going taking it a little bit
further.
But I think hers is reallygreat if you have neurodivergent
kids so that you can kind ofunderstand how their brains
(14:33):
work, because it's gonna bedifferent, you know, than an
adult with ADHD, you know,especially if you just, you
know, like us got diagnosed inthe past couple of years, like
we're learning about thisdiagnosis at the same time our
child is.
So it's it's really it's reallygood for for that.
(14:54):
I think any I'm a big fan oflike, especially as an ADHD
person, the small bites ofinformation.
She gives really valuable bitsof information in a very
digestible small bite.
So um highly recommend her aswell.
She's she's wonderful.
Yeah.
And she, I believe, also hasADHD, which those are gonna be
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the the people who are reallygood at presenting the
information in a way thatADHDers can grasp.
That doesn't happen all thetime.
There's a couple of moreprofessional resources.
I don't know, I don't want tosay professional, more clinical
resources that that present ADHDinformation for people who are
(15:45):
definitely not ADHD.
And if they want to hire me tolike put their stuff in bullet
points, I will gladly take theirmoney.
Right.
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Exactly.
And also, kind of going back torelationships, Rich and Broxy,
(16:06):
aka A D H D A D H D love, theyare a British couple.
They are great for couples andspecifically people with
neurotypical, ADHD people withneurotypical partners, because
they're really good about notjust like, hey, like here's some
(16:27):
information about the way yourbrain processes information, but
then gearing that informationto the to the neuro the
neurotypical partner so they canunderstand kind of how to
support you best, how youprocess information.
They are mostly on TikTok andInstagram.
They have a podcast that I havenot listened to yet.
(16:50):
I know they've got some booksout, I know there's a children's
book out, there's, and theyhave a relationship book out as
well.
Not too long ago, they releasedthe, I don't know if you say
it, doobie or dubby.
It's a body doubling app.
And my under I haven't used it,but my understanding is like
(17:10):
you can basically body doublevirtually body double with other
people when you have likesomething to do and you just
need somebody else to do itwith, you can get on the app and
find someone as I trail off.
(17:30):
At least my train of thought.
Uh I think it's Dubby.
Um but I I also I like Richardand Roxy.
I think they're they're great.
She is she the one I thinkshe's the one I'm thinking of,
but she's like they look kind oflike punk rockish a little bit.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
I like I like those two.
And her stuff, for whateverreason, it is the most
(17:53):
relatable.
I think it's just the way thatshe's like you can s you can
physically feel and see likewhen her brain just completely
caches.
Like we're waiting wait.
What?
Like, I've always found themamusing.
They're good.
Yeah.
It was their videos that reallyhelped me under not understand,
(18:16):
but like describe the the likeinterruption rage, you know,
like when you're doing a thingand somebody interrupts you and
you just like lose your mind.
Yeah, the video that they didthat, I was like, oh my god,
this this is exactly I sent thatto my husband, and I'm like,
(18:38):
this is how it feels when I'mdoing something and you
interrupt me.
Like this is how my brain, mylike it's unhinged, but this is
this is what happens in mybrain.
Right.
I'm not proud of it, and right,stop it.
This is why I get so angry.
This is why I'm not proud ofthe behavior.
(19:00):
Yeah, right, right, right,exactly.
And one that I I I'm pretty newto following, and I mostly
follow her on threads is BeccaKing.
She's the ADHD nutritionist.
She's good for just nutritioninformation specific to people
who have ADHD.
(19:20):
She mostly does workshops andcoaching.
She's a registered dietitian,board-certified dietitian.
I think she's based inCharlotte.
Because oddly enough, we have aton of mutuals, and I
discovered that when I was kindof looking up her website
information and everything.
But um, yeah, so I like her, Ilike her stuff.
(19:40):
Like I said, I mostly followher on threads, and that's where
I get some good info.
So yeah, those are my favorite.
And as kind of, you know, youand I were talking about
earlier, you know, much likeyour average ADHD person, like
your interests changed.
So when I was going through,you know, my social media to see
(20:04):
which ADHD content creators Iwas following and that I was
getting information from from, Irealized that like I haven't
followed anybody new in areally, really long time because
my I guess I got to a pointwhere I didn't need a whole
bunch of information at onetime.
(20:28):
Yeah.
And and there's also uhcreators that I followed in the
beginning that are no longermaking content either.
I like I noticed that, like,they haven't made new content in
a while.
So it's like I follow a lot ofneurodivergent people and
creators, but they're notspecifically ADHD content
(20:49):
creators.
They're like authors andartists and stuff.
I would say that's sort of whatwe are at this point.
Like we create content that'sADHD topic-based, but it's not
the primary source of what wecreate.
Right.
Um, I have some.
There's one person that Icannot think of that I'm like
(21:10):
I'm dying to figure out what hername is.
Um she's a gorgeous woman withvery long dark hair, and she she
first caught my attention whenshe played this video on TikTok
where she's talking aboutbinaural um like reset, and it
was like, turn your phonesideways and put this in your
(21:30):
ear.
And then you could feel thesound go back and forth in your
head when your headphones arein.
And she also she shares likepractical ADHD food, but it's
not just food that she talks.
Like, she talks a little bitabout everything.
I think she's like a parent andshe's not a parent coach, but
she's like a counselor for ADHDchildren.
Anyway, she's really good too.
(21:51):
If I find her, I'll I'll puther in this section.
But I also have a few that Ifollow, and these are for these
are primarily like bite-sizedbits of information.
They're all on Instagram.
And these are people that Ihave sent content, their content
to my husband in an effort tohelp him understand something
(22:12):
that I'm thinking or that ourson might be dealing with.
So that's that's what I likeabout these guys.
But one of them is at nurtureADHD.
That creator focuses primarilyon children and how to what
makes ADHD children tick and howto work with that as you parent
them.
Coaching with Brooke, she hasshe's like often promoting her
(22:38):
like webinars and content thatshe sells.
But that's usually the lastslide in her carousels.
She has these sort ofcartoon-based carousels for ADHD
people that's like, you know,ADHD and friendships, ADHD and
relationships, ADHD and and it'sjust it'll look like a little
cartoon that's kind of childish,but it's incredibly dense with
(23:00):
information in a very digestibleway to understand it.
And I really love her stuff.
Very helpful.
My ADHD counselor is anotherone who is pretty active on
Instagram.
I also see him a lot onthreads.
I have seen him more thererecently.
I kind of think of threads aslike where you if you have a
(23:21):
post that doesn't have apicture, this is where you put
all your stuff.
You know what I mean?
Um it's like it's Twitter, butnot Twitter.
You know what I mean?
It's anyway.
Um he used to have like a lotmore reels and videos, but I've
seen him do more thread stuffnow.
Again, my ADHD counselor, and Ilike him because he is very
intentional about what he sayswith women and their ADHD
(23:47):
experience.
Like he he, I want to say he'sodd.
I don't know that for sure, butI know he does have ADHD, but
he's very, very clear about howADHD research does not service
women with ADHD and how it needsto.
And here's some things youshould know.
And before I did the episodesabout women, I made sure to look
(24:10):
at his content again to see ifthere was anything I'd missed
because he hit kind of the bigones and a few of that.
So he's really good.
One who's relatively, I don'twant to say new to this space,
she's been around for a while,but I started following her more
recently as opposed to KatieOsaurus and Casey Davis.
(24:32):
Her name is Sarah Kelly.
Her handles are Sarah KellyADHD coach.
She's on TikTok.
She's also on Instagram.
Her stuff is very relatable toyou know how Elise Myers will
sort of have the, she'll havelike a computer screen and
she'll say, like, here's whatwe're doing, and then she'll
kind of flip through the nextthing.
Sarah Kelly does that too, anda lot of it is like drawings.
(24:53):
So she'll be like, and this iswhy.
And it's it's a very engagingformat, and it's it's very
helpful.
Um, the last one is one I love,love, love, love, love.
Basically, they take our ADHDepisodes.
That's not what they don't ripoff our content.
That's not what I mean.
They are they rip off.
(25:14):
We're about their content.
I did get permission though.
I did ask and say, like, hey,can we feature your content on
our on their on our show?
And they're like, yes, pleasedo it.
Ariella Monti (25:23):
It's so cool.
Caitlin Kindred (25:24):
I don't I think
they think we have a bigger
following.
But judge from them, we'reripping you off.
Um but this they are ADHDWeasel Weekly.
If you know the Bucky's mascot,it kind of looks like that as
(25:46):
their Instagram provides.
It is a weasel.
This this page, this creator,whoever this person is, is
brilliant.
They take practical tips andthey'll give you like 10.
And it'll be like 10 ways toget up off your butt when you're
(26:08):
in a sit pit.
What?
I didn't know.
I didn't know I needed that,but I absolutely did need that.
And it'll be the mostminuscule, tiny little thing
that I swear I've tried like Idon't know, seven or eight of
them, and I haven't had a Ihaven't had one miss.
Like these tips are sopractical and helpful.
(26:33):
Um, yeah.
I find them on threads.
In order to be on threads, youhave to be on Instagram.
I've never seen their contenton Instagram, so I would say go
go threads for them.
But they again, ADHD WeaselWeekly, and it'll be like 10
tips of all these things thatwe'll do to help you.
And and there's one specificperson I'm thinking of right now
(26:55):
who has a neurodivergentpartner who has not gotten a
diagnosis, but that person needsa diagnosis.
I'm thinking about you.
They might just help you getthis person to handle their
business a little differently.
So ADHD Weasel Weekly.
I love, love, love thatcreator.
(27:16):
Just full of chalk full ofgreat ideas for ADHD people.
So and if I think of thatwoman, she's stunning.
She's amazingly beautiful too.
Like, I can't, I'm so mad thatI can't think.
And she's so stinking smart,she has she's a doctor.
I can't even anyway.
Nurture ADHD ADHD.
(27:38):
Yeah, that's the reason.
I'm even I'm sitting here asyou're recording, I'm listening
to you, and I'm also likesearching for the video of hers
that I know I've saved like athousand of them, and I can't
find a single one of them.
Uh if you are a beautiful womanand and a brilliant woman and
an ADHD creator, and you didthis binaro beats thing, and
(28:00):
there's a one in a millionchance you're listening.
I'm so sorry.
This sounds like a Craigslist.
Right?
What is it?
It's very if you like PinaColadas right now.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Break up Did you hear Brycejust start singing if you like
Pina Coladas in the back?
Ariella Monti (28:19):
No.
Caitlin Kindred (28:21):
Buddy, not the
right time.
Misconnection.
That's it.
That's the word.
Misconnection.
Yeah, it's it's yeah, my brain,my their neurons are are
mispiring.
It does, it feels like if youlike Pina Coladas, it's it's it
feels like a creepy Craigslistad.
If you're a beautiful, ifyou're a beautiful lady and you
(28:44):
like talking about ADHD.
I need to write this down.
Right.
Yeah.
Romance novel topic.
No, I don't do that.
So embarrassed.
I would change it up.
I would also explain her name.
Oh, thanks.
I would use like Catherine orsomething.
(29:07):
Oh yeah, it's totally just ahundred percent different.
No.
There's I will say I have tosay this.
When you showed me the fan artfrom your book, I kind of like
lost my mind.
I was like, she if you took meand like dialed up the hotness
from like a eight, because I'mthat gorgeous, to a 12, that
(29:34):
could be me.
Like, I was like, she she couldbe me.
I could look like that.
The hair's the right color.
Which one?
Emma.
The one Emma.
Emma and Emma and Liam.
Emma and Liam.
(29:55):
Come on, tell me, tell meagain.
She's gorgeous.
I didn't know.
She's absolutely stunning.
And she's my artist.
Yeah.
My artist, like, I yes.
Yes.
Yes.
I I'm telling you, take me fromthe eight that I am.
I can't even get through thatsentence.
(30:16):
Take me from that to a to a 12.
I'm Emma.
I'm gonna, I'm gonna go, I'mI'm gonna ride hard for that
one.
That's gonna, I'm just gonnasay it.
You know the the celebritymodel that I used for like hair
coloring hair coloring andstuff, or and like yeah,
(30:37):
features and everything wasMarissa Tomei.
But of like yeah, like nightlike when she was in like
because the character's in her30s.
So it was like Marissa Tomeiwhen she was in like her 30s and
stuff.
So it like she was one of theum one of the celebrities that I
was like, hey, like gorgeous.
(30:59):
Tyna has these, you know, if Iwere to fan cast this book, I
would put, you know, 1994'sMarissa Tomei.
With red hair in like auburnhair.
Yeah, yeah, in this, in thethis it's no, this this
particular image, it looks a lotredder than I envisioned it.
(31:22):
I think it's the way he did thelighting.
Yeah, I I want to say I thoughtit was like much more brown,
yeah, yeah, and less auburn.
Yeah, and also the printingtoo.
The print, like when I printedit, yeah, like it's just
different.
Yeah.
But she's got shine.
That's what that is.
(31:43):
I know.
It's shine.
She's like this is I'm notgonna say it because this is
this is a this is an earbuds outpodcast.
You're allowed to have you'reallowed to have earbuds out for
this one.
But she's gorgeous.
I'm just gonna say it.
She's beautiful.
She does not look like the ADHDcoach that I'm thinking of, but
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she's also beautiful.
Really can't think of her name.
I'm so mad at myself.
Doctor Brilliant.
I guess she does have greathair.
It's this long black hair.
Oh my god, she's beautiful.
Anyway, it doesn't matter.
So I think I think that's agood did you know that Ariela
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has fan art for her books?
Have you looked have you readthem yet?
You should.
You can get them at a discountif you listen to this show.
Right.
And then I can make more, I cancommission David to make more
fan art.
It's beautiful.
He did such a good job.
I have I have other books thatI want illustrations.
Yeah, and in the words of myson, people like your books, so
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you should keep making them.
It was really cute, you guys.
That's my favorite story of theweek.
Is he I was reading Ariel'sbook and he and I said, Do you
know who made wrote the?
He was looking at your coverbecause he like he was kind of
into it.
That it's such a cool cover.
Yeah.
He was like, he was like, No,who made it?
And I said, This is your AuntAriella wrote this book.
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And he was like, Really?
And said, Yeah.
And he goes, Well, how muchmoney does she have?
And I was like, Well, it'shard.
Sometimes it's hard to, youknow, like sometimes we do
things because we love them andwe hope that people buy them.
And then if they don't buythem, that's okay.
And he was like, Well, yeah,it's okay.
You like it, so she should keepmaking it because that means
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someone likes it.
And I was like, Oh my god,you're so right.
Like he just was like basicallybeing encouraging, regardless
of the amount of movies that youmake, you should just keep
doing them because they'relovely and they're so fun to
read.
Oh my gosh, you have to readher books.
They're so good.
So you can get them uh at a 20%off discount if you type in
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code CK and GK on her website,which I'll make sure is linked
in the notes.
And I think that's all we havefor this whole series, unless
you guys want more AHD stuff,which we could probably come up
with, but this has been fun.
It has been fun.
Learned a lot about myself,learned a lot about you.
Yeah, learned a lot about fanart.
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And uh hey, these charactersare neurodivergent, by the way.
Yes, they are.
Yes, they do.
Yes, they do.
My characters areneurodivergent.
Yeah.
Because, you know, we didn'tget to see ourselves in no
representation is so important.
Like, right, it matters a lot.
Plus, like, listen, you gottawrite what you know.
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Let's be real quick.
I don't know what it's like tobe neurotypical at all.
So I'm not gonna write anythingabout that.
I have, yeah, I have a lot ofyou know, ADHD author friends,
and it's really funny because somany of them didn't get their
diagnosis until later in lifewhen they were like already had
already published books andstuff, and they'll tell stories
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about how people are like, Oh, Ilove how you made so and so
autistic.
Like, I love seeing an autisticcharacter, and my friends are
like, What?
Uh they're like writing SheldonCooper, but there's no
diagnosis.
Right.
They're like, Oh, hang on asecond, and then like two years
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later, and they're like, Oh,hey, this is why all my
characters are neurodivergent.
We write what we know, folks.
Okay, well, um, thanks fortuning in and listening to us.
And we hope you've enjoyedthis.
And let us know if you have afavorite topic, if you want to
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hear something else, if you havea creator that we missed that
you want us to share and give ashout-out to, we'd love to do
that.
So reach out to us.
You can do so in the link, thesend us a text link in the show
notes.
In the meantime, we love you,we mean it, make good choices,
and see you soon.
Aye.
Bye.
Okay, y'all.
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