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June 17, 2025 43 mins

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Jenny spent our entire girls’ trip stealing my travel hacks—from a $11 life-changing wrap to the ADHD-friendly ‘Caboodle’ that organizes my chaos. Here’s the full list of affordable, mom-tested essentials that made her say ‘I need that!’ (and the epic curb-fail that made vendors gasp).

Who Should Listen

  • Moms who overpack but still forget everything.
  • ADHD travelers who need systems that actually work.
  • Anyone who’s ever been jealous of a friend’s carry-on game.

What You Get In This Episode

  1. The $11 wrap that outshines cashmere (and the viral TikTok hack Jenny missed).
  2. ADHD packing wins: Clear “Caboodle” organizers, AirTag luggage tracking, and the airplane seat-back pocket that’s chef’s kiss.
  3. Jenny’s steal-worthy list (including the cuticle oil pen you’ll use daily).
  4. The turtle incident: Caitlin’s slow-mo ice cream spill that became a core memory.
  5. Pro tip: Why you should always pack blender sounds in your mental vacation kit.

Bios

Caitlin Kindred: Chronic overpacker, BuzzFeed deal addict, and mom who once survived a 10-day trip with two carry-ons.

Jenny GK: The friend who borrows your lip balm but upgrades your life with $11 Amazon finds.

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Caitlin K (00:01):
Hey grownups, caitlin here, flying solo today because
I'm taking a much-needed summerbreather, because y'all my
brain is officially in poolnoodle mode.
There's a few things going onin my life right now that I'd be
happy to share once we're back,but in the meantime, I am
re-releasing one of my favoriteepisodes with Jenny.

(00:22):
This is all about traveljealousy, aka the things that
she's jealous of that I travelwith as my non-negotiable items.
So I feel like this is a greattime to re-release.
It's peak travel season and ifyou're anything like me, you're
probably trying to figure outhow you're going to fit another
pair of shoes into your tinycarry-on suitcase, like some

(00:43):
sort of real-life Tetris game,or you are scrolling Instagram
because you're super jelly ofall these people taking these
amazing vacations.
So, either way, this episode isgoing to be for you, I promise.
Stay tuned for all the sillythings that I love to bring with
me, including my favoriteairplane pockets, airline

(01:04):
pockets things that I love tobring with me, including my
favorite airplane pockets,airline pockets.
There's a link to it on thewebsite, so go check it out.
Anyway, whether you're actuallytraveling or you're just
daydreaming about it, thisepisode is your pep talk and
your packing cheat sheet.
We'll be back with fresh chaosas soon as possible.
Until then, just pretend thatevery time you hear that
Starbucks blender and you'reabout to head into work, it's

(01:25):
actually a blender making you anice pina colada, or maybe it's
a shaker making you a mojito.
Whatever it is, and I hope youget the chance to visit a beach
sometime soon.
Love, you mean it.
Thanks for sticking with us.
Let's get to the episode.

Jenny GK (01:50):
It's Tuesday.
Yeah, it is Tuesday time.
Welcome to our show.
This is CK and GK.
We're the podcast for adultswho need a grown-up.

Caitlin K (01:56):
Yeah, today we're talking about grown-up things
that I have for travel, thatJenny wants.

Jenny GK (02:02):
That I want Because, as you know, we took a fabulous
vacation together and basicallyI spent the entire trip just
drooling over Caitlin's littletravel things.

Caitlin K (02:14):
Don't worry, I drooled over some things she had
too.
We'll share that with you, noworries.

Jenny GK (02:20):
All right, but before we do that, I have to introduce
my co-host, and Caitlin is thebetter jet setter.

Caitlin K (02:29):
Oh, I like that.
Well, she's my elegant tiny busdriver.
She drove us all over Napa forit was a couple of days and then
finally I was like, listen, Iknow you don't like this, let me
do the driving.
And I was like, listen, I knowyou don't like this, let me do
the driving.
And I was like, okay, soundsgreat.
And by tiny bus what I mean iswe had a Nissan kick.

(02:49):
Did you know?
That's a thing?
I did not know that was a car.
Yeah, it was.
We didn't know.
We did not know it is an actualcar.
It drove pretty well.
But if you are the princessfrom the Princess and the Pea,
you will feel every single rock,stone, pothole, every single
thing underneath it.

(03:09):
You will feel it.

Jenny GK (03:11):
And that's not even like the best rental car story
that we have.
No, the best rental car storywe have is that, as we're
picking up this Nissan KICK,which again is what they modeled
clown cars after nissan kick,which again, um is what they
modeled clown cars after um,there this couple walks up to
the counter next to us and saysthis car is no perfecto for me

(03:33):
that's really how they said itthese I think they were like a
scandinavian couple and he walksup and he says to the agent um,
I need seat heating and asunroof.

(03:53):
There's nothing wrong.
No, there's nothing wrong witha car that does both of those
fits their luggage, it fitstheir body, right.
The issue is that it doesn'thave seat heat or sunroof, right
seat, heating.

Caitlin K (04:05):
and when, when the guy asked them, well, what kind
of car do you drive at home?
He was like oh, mercedes.
He's like well, I can find youa Mercedes, but it's going to
cost you this much.
He's like oh, no, no, no,that's fine, he goes okay.

Jenny GK (04:26):
well, the other and he was like no, no, I don't have
the card, like what?

Caitlin K (04:29):
who's using what he's like.
Well, you have a four.
I can give you two options.
You can have like a fordexplorer or a jeep like what
your choice is.

Jenny GK (04:37):
If you don't want to get because you're at hertz
rental car.
This is not like conciergeservice, guys.

Caitlin K (04:45):
If you want a mercedes, you need to request it
ahead of time and pay for thatsort of tier of rental car.
And they didn't like it.

Jenny GK (04:53):
The nissan kick ain't got seat heating or sunroof or
bluetooth connections to know,and you know what?

Caitlin K (05:01):
we were just fine.
It had enough room for ourluggage.
It got us to and fro.

Jenny GK (05:05):
It's fine, all good it did exactly and it had good gas
mileage because, gas therestarts with a five.

Caitlin K (05:11):
Yeah, oh it was a fun .
It was a fun trip, but well, wecan get more into the details
of the trip later, but first wehave to talk about all the cool
things, apparently, that I havegotten via BuzzFeed articles.

Jenny GK (05:27):
Okay, so here's the truth.
During this trip, I had arunning notepad full of things
that Caitlin would break out ofher backpack and be like hey, I
want that too.
What is that?
Where'd you get that?
So I had this whole list ofthings I just wanted to take
from her.

Caitlin K (05:46):
Yeah.

Jenny GK (05:47):
I'm going to beat her up and steal her shoes.

Caitlin K (05:51):
I need to just like start a list on our website of,
like, just stuff that we have,that we like, and it's just
going to be like a running, likeCMS entry list where we just do
it, cause I can't keep doing itin all the blog posts.
It's just not, I can't keep up.
We got too many cool things,okay, so tell, tell us what the
first one was.

Jenny GK (06:10):
Okay.
So the first one is thisairplane seat back pocket thing
that you slide over the tray andit makes your own airplane seat
back pocket.

Caitlin K (06:22):
Right.
So when I get on the plane, thefirst thing I do is wipe down
all of the.
I know they do this on theplane.
I know that the flightattendants will wipe down the
surfaces and everything for you,but I can't help it and I wipe
down.
I get out my little sanitizerwipes, I wipe down the seat that

(06:42):
I'm sitting in in the armrest,the tray table, the window
thingy that you use to pull upand down, the handle on the
shade, um, the seatbelt, and allthe other things I can think of
, and then I do the same forwhoever's sitting by me.
So then after that yeah, thenafter that I take my airplane
seat back pocket and I put itover the tray table so, like it,

(07:05):
it slides onto the tray table.
And then, when you close thetray table, you have like four
extra pockets and they're likesized differently, so you can
like put your phone in orwhatever.
Yeah, it's really nice.

Jenny GK (07:17):
When I was in elementary we had to fold paper
bags to make book covers for ourschool textbooks.

Caitlin K (07:26):
I can probably still do that, by the way.
I loved it.
Right, I loved doing that.
Then they had those stretchyones that you could buy at the
grocery store that didn'tprotect your book, but they made
it look cool.

Jenny GK (07:38):
That's the kind of thing that this airplane pocket
that kind of fabric is made out.
It's like it slides right overand then so she's just like
putting stuff in pockets andlike sorting out her whole life
just settling in, and meanwhileI'm like trying to kick my
carry-on bag under the seatbecause I know it's not going to

(07:59):
fit in the overhead witheverybody's rolling luggage,
just kind of sneering at herlike why are you so cool?

Caitlin K (08:06):
it's so well.
Why am I so addicted tobuzzfeed lists?
I can't help it.
But this thing is actuallyreally helpful because I also
like it just helps me feel likeI don't have to go digging
through my bag the entire time,because once I shove it under
there.
I don't want to, yeah, I don'twant to have to get back out
right, yeah, and for me.

Jenny GK (08:23):
You know, I shoved it under there and I'm like oh, I
want my head right, exactly, ohI forgot that.
I'm old and I can't read withoutmy readers.
I gotta take those out, okay?
So also on the plane.
Yes, we have a layover indenver and we are sitting there
and caitlin pulls out her phoneand is scrolling and says, okay,

(08:46):
well, my luggage made it hereand I'm like, excuse me what?
Oh well, you know, I just putan air tag in my luggage, like
everyone has for the last fiveyears.
Get your life together.
I have never seen this done.
It's so great.
I have heard rumors.
Yeah, it's great.

(09:07):
She's just like she doesn'thave to worry.
I'm looking, trying to see ifthey're throwing it onto the
cart or whatever.
Which?

Caitlin K (09:15):
we shouldn't have to do, because our plane is the
same one, it's moving yeah.

Jenny GK (09:18):
Yeah, no, that was dumb.

Caitlin K (09:20):
No, the air tag in the bag is a relatively new one
for me.
I've heard tons of people doingit, but it really does provide
a little bit of peace of mind.
Also, I learned um certainairlines not every airline, but
certain airlines will tell youthe progress of your bag.
So when I, when I flew from SFOto my spring break destination

(09:41):
to meet my family um which we'llget into in a little bit,
because there's a gem from therethat you have to hear my
airline was like oh, hey, wechecked your bag.
Oh hey, it's on the plane.
Oh, hey, it made it to yourdestination.
That was really nice.
But the air tag piece is likehey, just so you know, it's 15
feet away, it's coming.
Yeah, that was really nice.

(10:07):
It was nuts yeah, nuts, yeah,and great.
Highly recommend, if youhaven't already, and it's like
25 bucks, I think, to get an airtag.
The peace of mind is totallyworth it, okay.

Jenny GK (10:13):
So then, uh, we get to the house where we're staying
and then caitlin unzips thislike modern version of the
caboodle for her makeup.
It's like sleek and beautifuland has multiple layers for you
to keep jewelry or makeup in.

(10:33):
And you know I got this likebag that I got free when long
comb, like you bought twoblushes and you got a free bag
um, this is my clear.

Caitlin K (10:46):
I use it for my pharmacy, um, but it was like
it's.
It does kind of look a littlebit like a caboodle.
It's like a.
There's like a thicker zipperlayer on the bottom and then a
thinner one on top and it's gotsome like little straps in there
to hold, you know, some sort ofitem, whatever it might be for
you a teeth whitener, atoothbrush, whatever but I like

(11:10):
it because it's clear, so I cansee everything in it.
That part was really nice to beable to have.
It's a good.
It's a good product I recommend.
You know all of these thingswill be linked.
I'm going to build a page.
Maybe they won't be, maybe itbe, maybe we'll beat this time
around, but I'm gonna build apage that has all these things
on it, as you can see it, but Ido really like this particular
item.

Jenny GK (11:30):
I plan to use it a lot , and so she says she uses this
for her pharmacy but like, thisis not the pharmacy no, it
wasn't the pharmacy.
The pharmacy comes later whenshe pops open this pill box.
That is about the size of adeck of playing cards.
Yeah, and mine is divided byday, right like you, as it

(11:54):
should be, because you're likeyour grandma had it no, I have
that I play mancala with it.

Caitlin K (12:00):
Yes, drop all the little pills in.
Yeah, no, I have that.

Jenny GK (12:03):
Yeah, for sure but this is in addition to that.
She opens it up.
It's like a travel soap box andinside are all these little
dividers for you to put over thecounter medicines in, or
vitamins or whatever.
It's not divided by day, whichis really cool for the other

(12:24):
things that you might carry withyou.

Caitlin K (12:25):
Right, Like you know, there's like compartments for
there's bigger ones and smallerones, and it looks like it has
like a little guitar pick inthere so that you don't jack up
your nails as you're opening itup.

Jenny GK (12:35):
Oh, that's right, that's.
The other thing is it has afancy little tool to open it
yeah.

Caitlin K (12:38):
That's the part I like the most, because I jack up
my nails and I've become a nailgirly and I don't like it when
my nails could get messed up bythese things.
So, yeah, that part was reallycool, but I, I, um, I like it
because there's like littlelabels you can write on them.
The one that I really that Ijust saw, of course, after I
purchased this one has like likea little booklet of stickers

(12:59):
and it's.
The stickers are like Tylenol,like like they look like the,
the box, like the label yeahthey look like the and I was
like, oh man, I missed out onthat one, but that's okay, this
is like it's just fine.
I know I should post that one,that's good but I really like
the one.

Jenny GK (13:13):
I'll buy that one, yeah, exactly, and it'll be
better than yours.
I mean, I will get a lot of useout of it right, yeah, yeah,
I'm, it's okay.
You can have something that'sokay, so right, um, you have
this tool to open it so youdon't break your nails.
Okay, here are the other thingsthat she has for her nails.

(13:34):
Yeah, a cuticle oilself-contained brush using right
now I have.
I haven't seen one of these indecades.
Yeah, I used to have one of mypurse in high school.
Yeah, and you know, it's like aclick brush, you turn it, oil
comes out, you brush yourcuticles, yeah, and so she just

(13:55):
hands it to me casually, likewell, we're on the train in napa
, like here, do you want somecuticle oil?

Caitlin K (14:00):
my hands, oh my god throwback.

Jenny GK (14:02):
Yeah, my hands and yes I do.
And it's so much better thanthat stuff that it's either in a
roller, where it goeseverywhere, or in a bottle where
you're like trying to hold abottle and do it yeah, this is
just a little pen all in one.

Caitlin K (14:18):
Yeah, it kind of it looks like, um, like those teeth
whiteners that you just brushonto your teeth that's sort of
what it looks like, um, and I,I'm obsessed with it.
It's a really good, uh, blisskiss is the brand and you find
it on your's.
A really good.
Blisskiss is the brand and youfind it on your favorite.
A to Z Basically everything I'mtelling you guys about here or
that Jenny's telling you about.
I found all of this stuff on Ato Z store, but this one I

(14:40):
really like because you can getit in a pack of two and I have
one that I keep at my desk andthen I have another one that I
usually keep in the bathroom.
But this time it came with us onthe trip, Because it was.
I mean, especially when you'reon vacation, you wash your hands
so much and I just didn't do agood job of like my nighttime

(15:00):
routine where I like shellac myhands and lotion and then like
nail strengthener and thencuticle oil.

Jenny GK (15:09):
So I was like, listen, this is, it was just the is, it
was just no.
We regularly went to bed at asingle digit time you did.
I am a grandma but what I amsaying is nobody did any
nighttime routine.
No, I know the one.
It was like head hits pillow.
Right, that's my, that's mynight time routine.

Caitlin K (15:23):
The one time I even like washed my face before bed,
I still went to bed like closeto close to midnight or like
maybe a little bit after.
Also, can we talk about how wehad daylight savings time kick
into high gear while we werethere, and that was a horrible.

Jenny GK (15:41):
We had a reservation for the breakfast, for breakfast
so yeah, so you have thisreservation for brunch and and
we're looking to see if we wantto add another person to it, and
there's plenty of seatings at11.
And I was like man, why Sundaybrunch, 11 am?
Why are there tables available?
This is like cool, but also didwe pick a bad restaurant?

Caitlin K (16:04):
No.

Jenny GK (16:05):
No, we just failed to remember that it's daylight
savings time and nobody wantedto do 11, because that's really
tight yeah In Napa whenever it'sstill like yeah On Sunday
morning.
Yeah, anyway.
Okay, we were the only peoplein the restaurant.
Yeah, for a good hour.
Okay, so here is something thatI do not have to steal.
No, because Caitlin provided memy own pair Blenders brand

(16:30):
sunglasses.

Caitlin K (16:30):
Okay, so we talked about this a while ago.
I believe we talked about CoachPrime's glasses.
If you have not seen these,these are.
They look kind of like Ray-Bansbut they're gold across the
front and they're very shiny andI had to have a pair.
They're very shiny and I had tohave a pair, and when I bought

(16:56):
them, I saw these pink cat eyerose golds um glasses that were
similar, and I was like theseare Jenny, like these have to be
Jenny.
So I got them for Jenny.
Yeah, so I got them for Jennyand, um, I handed them to her.
They were part of her birthdaygift.
The other part of our gift foreach other was we went on this
trip and we paid for each otherto like go and do fun things
together, right, so that wasfine.

(17:17):
But I was like, no, she has tohave like a little something.
So I'm a big believer in likeyou get to open something for
your birthday.
I think that's it's a fun thing.
So these sunnies are so cool,they're so cute and they look so
good on her.

Jenny GK (17:32):
I love them.
They're perfect for you.
I am loving them too.
So what you had to open foryour birthday was just the doors
, because Caitlin turned 40, butI celebrated like she was
turning four and had a yard card.

Caitlin K (17:50):
It was so great my husband goes there's something
weird in the yard and I was likewhat?
And he goes, just go look at it.
And I was like I don't believeyou.
Like I know it's not somethingweird, I know that like there's
something out there and I wasfully expecting to see.
Like the balloon, like theballoon oh yes, yes, yes, yes,
they in in Texasxas, or maybenot all over texas, but in

(18:13):
austin.
You can pay for someone to comeand put decorative balloons in
the shape of a number outsideyour house and they're like 10
feet tall.
Yeah, they're huge.
So I was fully expecting to seelike a big 40 balloon statue
thing out there, but no, no, itwas austin yard cards shout out
to austin yard for making thishappen, but and to jenny for

(18:36):
doing it.
But it was like it just saidhappy birthday, happy 40th
birthday, kaylin.
I love it.
It's gonna.
I'll put that picture on the onthe blog because it's super
cute, it was funny and I lovedit I am.

Jenny GK (18:46):
I am cackling as I'm ordering it, like I'm gonna send
her a yard card like she'sturning seven.

Caitlin K (18:51):
You know what's so great about it and I told you
this.
This is how you know that Jennyknows me.
I want everyone to know thatit's my birthday, but I don't
want to tell anyone that it's mybirthday.

Jenny GK (19:05):
Because then I'm asking for attention.

Caitlin K (19:08):
So my neighbor is like it was so great.
I was like like feeling allspecial and it was hilarious to
me.
I loved it.
I loved it.
So, okay, I have to tell youabout the thing that I wanted
that Jenny had while we werethere the the thing, the thing,

(19:29):
okay, the thing.

Jenny GK (19:30):
I had a running list going of items I wanted to take.

Caitlin K (19:34):
I had one that she wanted, but here's what oh, I
remember the other thing that weforgot on this list and I'll
come back to it in a second Um,but the thing I wanted.
So Jenny.
Jenny dressed herselfappropriately for every single
event that we had, um, includingon day one when we traveled and
the first destination that wearrived at, aside from, like you

(19:56):
know, the Hertz rental carplace, was a champagne tasting.

Jenny GK (20:13):
I am dressed appropriately for travel, as in
tennis shoes, leggingssweatshirt, hair up and dirty,
okay, and I did not change forthe champagne.

Caitlin K (20:16):
We didn't need to, but jenny shows up at this
beautiful chateau place readyfor a champagne tasting and
she's wearing like a dress.

Jenny GK (20:24):
Now everyone who wears dresses understands that part
of why you wear dresses isbecause they're comfortable and
it's one reason I was wearingit's just it makes you look easy
to wear on the plane exactly itmakes you look put together.

Caitlin K (20:36):
That said, it's still a dress and you look better
than someone who's wearingleggings and a sweatshirt and
some big old clunky tennies, sowhatever.
But she also had a wrap thatshe wore for when it got chilly,
because it's Napa and it getschilly in Napa.
Let's be real clear.
It was not warm for most of thetime we were there.
It was beautiful but not warm.
But right, right, and I have,like you know, my wind, my

(21:00):
Carhartt, like windbreaker forwindbreaker, and I have like a
nice, I have nice makeup andnice hair and like nice clothes
on underneath with my Carharttwindbreaker.
Not the best look, but Jennyhad this wrap shawl thing that I
am obsessed with and I made hergive me the link and instead it

(21:24):
showed up at my house rightafter I got back, which was
amazing.
But I love this thing.
You have to explain it becauseit's so great.

Jenny GK (21:35):
So, um, a few weeks before the trip, I got caught at
a junior league meetingshopping for the trip and it was
in the break between we makingdecisions.
I wasn't like not payingattention.
But someone looked over and sawI was scrolling through and
shopping and said, oh, what areyou looking for?

(21:55):
And I explained I'm going toNapa and I'm just looking for
something that I could put on inthe evenings when the
temperature drops.
And she was oh, you need afabulous cashmere wrap.
And I was like you need afabulous reality check.

Caitlin K (22:14):
Because I am not the person who is buying a fabulous
cashmere just like a big oldpashmina, like, like, nothing
wrong with having a pashmina,but like I'm just, I'm a girl on
a budget here, right that's itlike I, I I'm going on a teacher
budget right to to napa.
I have to save the cash where Ican yes, yes, nissan kick.

(22:35):
Hey that thing.
I got no complaints.

Jenny GK (22:39):
I wouldn't buy it, but for rental, oh no it was the
perfect rental, perfect for whatwe were doing.
But so I go to China andwwwbuyclothesfromchinacom.
There it is and uh, I find thiswrap that's like super soft.
It's not cashmere soft, but itis soft, yeah, and it has a

(23:03):
little bit of an unfinished edgeso that it has a little bit of
fringe on it.
It's got this cool buckle where, if you want to wrap it and
have it stayed secure, you canbuckle it or you can just throw
it over your shoulders open.

Caitlin K (23:16):
And it was 11 and it's beautiful like you can't
tell that it's 11 less than thetax right on a fabulous cashmere
wrap you can't tell that it's11.
It's beautiful's beautiful, andhers is like a, like a really
nice, like brown color and Imade her get me a gray one and I
love it.

Jenny GK (23:36):
Love it, love it, love it.
Well, when Abby packed for mefor this trip, she chose things
all in kind of browns and beiges.

Caitlin K (23:44):
Hmm, a neutral girl, I like it.

Jenny GK (23:46):
Yes.

Caitlin K (23:47):
I'm into it.

Jenny GK (23:47):
She did all my packing .

Caitlin K (23:50):
Okay, okay, well, hold on.

Jenny GK (23:51):
Speaking of packing, the one other thing.

Caitlin K (23:53):
I have to tell you about that.
You loved that.
You forgot, yeah, so I havethese.
It's like those little pumpbottles but it comes in like a
little tube of four.
So, instead of those TSAapproved bottles that are all
single, this is a single bottlethat, like you have to fill it

(24:13):
up and it takes up all thesespaces because you have, you
know, six of them.
I did love this.
Yeah, it is one likecylindrical thing that has a
pump on the top.
Stop, yes, close your eyes.

Jenny GK (24:28):
Yes, if you're not driving.

Caitlin K (24:29):
Oh, not me.

Jenny GK (24:30):
Imagine the pen that you really loved in fourth grade
, where you could click throughdifferent colors.

Caitlin K (24:36):
Yes.
And it had red, blue, green,black, and everyone always tried
to push all the colors down atthe same time, and you tried to
push all the colors at one time.

Jenny GK (24:45):
Yes, it's kind of like that.

Caitlin K (24:46):
It's that, yeah, you rotate the top and then, when
you push down on the pump, theone of the four like products
inside will come out, becauseyou and you can label them and
you can see how much is in there, and it's like it's.
It's really nice.
So I was able to fit eightdifferent products into these
two like cylinders of things andthey each hold less than that.

(25:09):
It's like they each hold twoounces or something like that,
which for like lotion.
That's a lot of lotion.
Two ounces of lotion is a lot.
It'll get you through a 10 daytrip, which is what I ended up
doing.
So it was good.
That was a good product.
You liked that one.

Jenny GK (25:22):
Yeah, okay.
So, um things I wanted to stealfrom you the multi-pump travel
liquid containers, yes.
The seat back pockets, yes.
The sunglasses, which I didn'thave to steal because you bought
me my own pair.

Caitlin K (25:38):
Right.

Jenny GK (25:38):
Thanks, bt Dubs.
Yeah, the cuticle oil Air tagsfor my luggage, which again,
welcome to the 20th century, jen, get your life together.
And two boxes.
And two boxes, one for likemakeup and jewelry and the other
one for miscellaneous OTC meds.

Caitlin K (25:56):
Yes.

Jenny GK (25:58):
And the one thing that you liked I had for $11.

Caitlin K (26:03):
And you also now.
Yes, and I've worn it aroundthe house several times because
I just like it.

Jenny GK (26:08):
It's like a cape Yep Super.
All right, let's take a break.

Caitlin K (26:18):
Okay, we're back.
Do you feel like a grown-up?
Yet, if those are all, thosetravel things that make.
That made me feel like.

Jenny GK (26:24):
I would feel more like a grown-up if I owned them oh,
we can make that happen.
I got you yeah, so I've beenobsessed with those, but here's
what I'm obsessed with, rightnow tell me on the last episode,
I told you I was obsessed withthe eclipse.
Yes, and I'm like still there.

Caitlin K (26:40):
Well, it hasn't happened yet, so of course, yeah
it hasn't happened yet.

Jenny GK (26:44):
I did a bunch of research on how ancient cultures
have viewed or explained theeclipse.
Yes, okay, so there's like 20or 30 different myths about the
sun being eaten, which totallymakes sense, because as the moon
moves across it of it lookslike a bite yeah but there are

(27:05):
some myths out there that arepretty great okay one is in the
navajo culture.
People do not watch the eclipseat all.
Interesting.
It is representative of the sundying and the sun is a father
figure in their culture.
So they go inside andrespectfully close their blinds

(27:29):
and stay inside until theeclipse is over.

Caitlin K (27:32):
Wow, last fall monument valley and four corners
parks were closed becausethey're on navajo tribal land.

Jenny GK (27:48):
Wow, that's very interesting.
Yeah, yeah, I thought that wasreally interesting.
Um, and then, surprisingly,there's not a lot of records
from the egyptians about eclips,even though we know that the
sun, god Ra, was reallyimportant in their culture.

Caitlin K (28:02):
Yeah, I'm shocked by that.

Jenny GK (28:05):
Right, you would think that there would just be like
volumes and volumes and volumes.

Caitlin K (28:09):
Yeah.

Jenny GK (28:09):
But there's only a few stories and Egyptologists will
tell you that, like maybe thosestories weren't even about an
eclipse.

Caitlin K (28:19):
Weird.

Jenny GK (28:20):
Yeah, and then another one that I really like is a
culture from Bolivia thoughtthat when there's an eclipse,
the sun cannot warm the earth,so they would light a lot of
fires around the pasture to helpkeep the earth warm during the

(28:40):
few minutes when the sun iscovered.
Oh, my goodness, what which?
If the fire is contained, it'sa great way to renew the soil.
So if this whole thing abouteclipse is like new life and
renewal and like covering thesun and resetting the universe,
how cool is it to think like, oh, they inadvertently were
actually clearing the land andbringing to life new things that

(29:03):
need fire in order to grow.

Caitlin K (29:05):
Yeah, that's very interesting.
I'm always fascinated by howpeople all over the world kind
of view or explain these naturalphenomena.
Yeah, it's very interesting tome.

Jenny GK (29:20):
So I will give you one more eclipse fact.
Yes, in 1919 there was a totaleclipse of the sun and albert
einstein used it to prove histheory of relativity.
Interesting in 19, yeah, in1916, he talked about how space

(29:42):
and time could be bent bygravity, but he really didn't
have any proof outside of histhought experiments.
But in 1919, because the sunwas covered up, they could
actually look at the sun andlook at stars and see how the
the light changed oh yeah, I hadno idea so on april the 8th, a

(30:05):
lot of america is going to beunder an eclipse, and there will
be scientists out there usingevery second of totality to
conduct scientific experiments.

Caitlin K (30:14):
That can only happen when the sun is covered wild
crazy I'm hoping to find outsomething cool, but in the
meantime, I'm just gonna bechilling outside and watching it
as much as I can.
It'll be awesome.
Yeah, speaking of awesomethings, when you and I were in
napa, we stayed with your friend.
Your friend has his own cave,his own cave, right?

Jenny GK (30:46):
I want my own cave.
This is a cave that it willhold wine like it is like a.
It is a wine cave.

Caitlin K (30:48):
It's a wine storage right, because he has a vineyard
right, but it is a hole in themountain and there's gonna be a
space for like intimateget-togethers.
And in the meantime I walkedthrough a cave on someone's you
know someone who?
and I want my own cave and I'mobsessed with the idea of having

(31:10):
one.
I don't think it'll ever it'snot really on my bingo card for
any time in the future, but um,it was really cool and we walked
into a mountain and then therewas like space to hold, like
wine barrels everywhere, andthen we walked around in like a

(31:31):
horseshoe sort of style thing,found a place to have a nice get
together inside a mountain withrock and stuff all around it,
and then walked out of the otherside of the mountain right
because we were in a cave in theside of not a mountain, a hill,
but still still pretty wild.

Jenny GK (31:49):
That was amazing.
Yes, it was crazy.
Yeah, like, oh yeah, thatthat's a mark from the dynamite.

Caitlin K (31:53):
When they yeah, oh yeah, when they, when they blew
this up to make this cave,there's like a big hole there.
That's where they put thedynamite.

Jenny GK (31:59):
Like what amazing this is not like a naturally
occurring cave, that no, it wasa blast.

Caitlin K (32:07):
It was a blasted cave , but still very cool, well done
okay, so you know what you findin caves rocks, gems, oh rocks.
Are we gonna tell everybody howyou walked up to a rock while
we were on our hike out thereand we were like I have to smell
this rock I did have to smell arock.

Jenny GK (32:27):
I love this.
It had moss on it.

Caitlin K (32:29):
She likes the smell of moss.

Jenny GK (32:30):
Right, it wasn't moss and when you are in an
environment like yes, like thepacific northwest, moss grows on
everything, and so NorthernCalifornia.
It's misty, it's cold, moss isgrowing on the rocks, and so I
veer off the trail.
I'm like, hey, hang on.
I got to smell this rock.

Caitlin K (32:51):
She literally says to me hold on, I have to smell
this rock.
And I, not knowing how much sheloved the smell of moss, was
like I'm sorry what?

Jenny GK (32:59):
And I look over and her face is like this is a
morning, high in a rock.
I've not had wine yet.
Like, what are you talkingabout?

Caitlin K (33:06):
She's literally like huffing this rock and I was like
I do not know what's happeningright now, but then, but then
she turns and goes oh my gosh, Ilove the smell of moss and I
was like, okay, that Iunderstand, Like people love the
smell of moss and I was like,okay, that I understand, like
people love the smell of likenatural things, right, like
freshly cut grass or like thingslike that made total sense to

(33:26):
me.
But hang on, I have to smellthis rock.
And then, like her full face, Iwas like I really just stopped.
Him was like, um, what sheexplained but it took me a
second.
Okay, so tell me your job.

Jenny GK (33:43):
Okay, so here's my, here's my job.
I came from, uh, myfive-year-old a few nights ago.
He looks at me, says what doesha mean?
I'm like, ha ha, like,something's funny, like that's a
way to write out a laugh.
And he says no, no, like inhello ha I know the hello part,

(34:04):
but I don't know the.

Caitlin K (34:05):
Oh, he's so sweet.
I didn't correct him.
No, never correct him.
Oh, it's so cute hello ha ohwhat a sweetheart.
Nope, nobody ever correct it.
That's like at our house yogurtcovered raisins are yogurt
beans, and I'm telling you now,if someone ever fixes it, I will
be so upset.
Mom, can I have more beans?
Excuse me, yogurt beans?

Jenny GK (34:26):
oh yeah, okay, no problem, yes, well, let me tell
you, um, you do have to fix itat some point, because my sister
was in her 20s when she foundout that you don't have to be m
to live in the state of Utah,because this is something that
we let her believe our wholechildhood.

Caitlin K (34:43):
That's amazing Okay.

Jenny GK (34:45):
No, I'll correct it at some point.
At some point, before yourelease your child into the
world, let them know that you donot have to be Mormon to live
in Utah.
Yogurt covered raisins are notbeans and the word is aloha not
hello, and the word is aloha,not hello.

Caitlin K (35:05):
Ha, so cute, okay.
Well, now is the time where Iembarrass myself.

Jenny GK (35:07):
Are you ready because you're gonna love this?
I saved this story just for youlove a good.

Caitlin K (35:10):
Save the mic story, okay, so after jenny and I went
to napa, I met my family in CaboSan Lucas for our spring break.
We managed to get um a steal oneverything to get down there.
It was just a no brainer for us.
So we head down there and um afew days in, you know, I've got

(35:34):
like as much of a base tan as Ican possibly get.
And now I want you tounderstand if you don't know
what.
I'm right.
If you don't know what I looklike, um imagine magically
delicious.
Imagine paper and then give itlike a slight, like pinkish hue
and some red hair and freckles,and that's what I look like.

(35:56):
I am so pale, okay, with like a, with like a pink undertone.
So I am like slathered inmineral sunscreen to like try
and not burn, cause that's justhow I am.
But, um, I you know I did.
Okay, I only got like one burnon my head and we'll talk about
that another time.
But, um, I am enjoying my timeon the beach and I'm enjoying my

(36:22):
time at the pool.
What we would do is we wouldget some breakfast, go down to
the beach for a few hours, hangout and then, um, head to the
pool where we would get all thesand off of ourselves and then
go back into our space so thatwe wouldn't get sand all over
the place, and then go back intoour space so that we wouldn't
get sand all over the place.
Well, on the way out of thebeach there is a little ice

(36:45):
cream place and, of course,obviously, if you have a
seven-year-old and you'releaving the beach, you have to
get ice cream.
And we've got our ice cream andmine's in a cup, because I'm
clumsy.
And here's evidence of howclumsy I am, I'm wearing like
those pillow puffy, notflip-flops, but like, oh, the

(37:09):
cloud slides, cloud slides.
Yes, thank you.
And Cabo has very slicksidewalks and also the like
poles are kind of in the middleof the sidewalk so you have to
walk around them and sometimesyou are gonna have to step off
onto the curb and the curbs areall sloped.
Um, they're not like a hardcurb, it's like a slide down

(37:32):
kind of curb.
Well, I'm walking with my icecream and my slide, I'm walking
around a pole on my slide, Islip on the curb oh no, and I go
down, but I go down slow-mo andI'm trying to save the ice
cream and I just completely eatit and the next thing I know, my

(37:55):
ice cream is upside down in thestreet and my legs are up in
the air like a V.
And I hear I hear out loud fromacross the street.
Some vendors going whoa Saw meeat it at like two in the
afternoon.

Jenny GK (38:14):
You were the best part of their day.

Caitlin K (38:16):
So then, the next, like the rest of the trip, I
couldn't wear the same cover up,because I knew they would know
who I was.

Jenny GK (38:22):
They would recognize you.

Caitlin K (38:23):
So I was like, oh my God, I've never been more
embarrassed and I like scrapeoff the top bit of my ice cream,
whack it onto the ground, pickmyself up and just mortifyingly
walk and eat the rest of my icecream.
The rest of the trip Sam waslike careful, this is a curb,

(38:44):
this is a curve, mom, be careful.
Bryce is like yeah, you okaythere.
He knew, like he knew Iembarrassed myself enough that
he didn't need to like ride thattrain and like make me more
embarrassed.
But when enough time has passed, I can guarantee you I will
never live this down.
It was slow.

Jenny GK (39:01):
I watched the ice cream roll into the street I
watched my leg.

Caitlin K (39:05):
I look like a turtle, like on their back, like that
happened to me once when I waspregnant.

Jenny GK (39:11):
I fell behind the couch and I got stuck on my back
and I'm yelling, I'm turtling,I turtling, I can't get off my
shell and, of course, abby andJohn are laughing at me.

Caitlin K (39:27):
Really was like a turtle and I had, like all the
beach bag stuff I've just got my.
I kept my spoon.
My spoon didn't go to thestreet, I held on to that sucker
, but the ice cream totally wasphased down into the street.

Jenny GK (39:39):
I just and I just scraped the dirt off of it and
the next time that Bryce givesyou ice cream he's going to just
scrape the top off and serve itto you flat.
I know you're not really intothe scoop part.
It was so embarrassing.

Caitlin K (39:55):
The worst part truly was the like Vendoris across the
street going whoa Like clearlythat chick just ate it.
Part truly was the likevendendores across the street
going whoa like clearly likethat chick.
And the funniest, like f, it'scabo san lucas at spring break
everyone is falling down.

Jenny GK (40:09):
Everyone like, but I'm the only one, but their ages
all start with a two yeah, orone like or what, or one or one.

Caitlin K (40:19):
I'm days away from my 40th birthday, happily eating
my ice cream and I slow-mo, falland roll around on the curb
like a turtle.

Jenny GK (40:28):
It was the most embarrassing thing I've done in
a really long time, but oh man,you need a t-shirt from Cabo
that just has a turtle as likethe mascot on it.

Caitlin K (40:40):
I'll ask Kit to pick it up.
Yeah, it was so embarrassing,it was so funny.
Like I can laugh at it thishard now, but at the time I was
just like no, I'm fine, like I'mlike my ankle.
I didn't roll it.
My slide literally slipped downthe curb and down like a
windmill.

Jenny GK (40:59):
Only thing that hurts my pride oh man, I was mortified
and the top of my ice cream, myice cream.

Caitlin K (41:04):
I miss it.
It was good ice cream.

Jenny GK (41:06):
It was like gelato, so good all right, y'all, if you
have had an embarrassing fall,that's better than falling down
in front of vendors, whoa, orfalling yeah or uh, falling up
the stairs and spilling yourlatte and crying over spilt
latte.
Tweet at us, I want to hear it.

(41:27):
X at us.
Message us.

Caitlin K (41:29):
Do it on Instagram.
I'm not so good at.
Twitter these days.
Tell your friends the bestthing you can do to support us.
Please share this with yourfriends, Because we love it.

Jenny GK (41:42):
Okay, so watch where you put your feet.

Caitlin K (41:45):
make good choices and don't shout whoa at someone
when they fall.
Just the first thing out ofyour mouth should be are you
okay?
And then you're allowed totackle about it.
Goodbye, aloha.
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