December 17, 2024 • 30 mins
Tired of looking awkward in your holiday photos? 📸 We've all been there! Ditch the weird poses and embrace your inner model with this episode!
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Who Should Listen
If you're like CK and hate what you look like in photos because you don't know what to do with your body parts, this episode is for you!
In this episode, we draw inspiration from the expert advice of photographer Marissa Wu to help you pose for those holiday pics with confidence. We'll cover everything from mastering the elusive S-curve, finding your most flattering angles, and avoiding the dreaded “slug fingers.”
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What You Get In This Episode
- Avoid the "Slug Fingers": Learn how to position your hands naturally for flattering photos. Say goodbye to awkward hand placement and hello to elegant poses.
- Master the "S-Curve": Discover the secret to shifting your weight for a more flattering and slimming look in photos.
- Embrace the "Raptor Pose" (or something similar): Find flattering arm positions that avoid the "roadkill" look and create a more defined silhouette.
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Bios
Caitlin K. and Jenny GK are two friends navigating the hilarious and sometimes chaotic world of adulthood. From awkward family photos to the joys (and perils) of holiday baking, they're here to share their relatable stories and offer a healthy dose of laughter along the way.
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Sources
- I’m a Photographer and These Are the 3 Things You Should Avoid Doing in Photos | By Marissa Wu for PureWow
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Jenny GK (00:02):
it's the most wonderful day of the week yeah,
guys, it's tuesday.
Caitlin K (00:12):
Uh, we're so glad you're here.
It's the holiday season, um,which means it's photo season,
it's the holiday season yes, itis.
And if you're like me and youjust hate what you look like in
photos, which is because I don'tknow what to do with my body
parts sometimes my face evenlooks like I'm like, it's like
(00:33):
unhappy housewife smile, whereyou're like kind of smiling um,
these tips are for you.
So today, um, we have anarticle that we're referencing
about how to not do weird thingswith your body in photos, but
first, but first she turns thisgingerbread house into a
(00:55):
gingerbread home.
It's caitlin oh, she's mysneakily talented hawk.
That's jenny.
Yours are always so sweet in myor like yeah that was
tongue-in-cheek.
Let's be real.
Jenny GK (01:10):
I mean ew, but thanks um, I didn't say what kind of
home, ah, no, um, so I I took agingerbread like decorating
class this week.
Um, because, of course, you didit was the first time I had
(01:32):
done a gingerbread house sanskids in 13 years and I was so
proud of it you didn't usegraham crackers on the side of a
milk carton to make no no, no,like this.
Oh, it was really cool.
Like they had the housesalready assembled, you were
literally just decorating them.
But I, like I was not.
I was doing it by myself, I washaving so much fun.
(01:55):
Uh, it was half a dozen womenjust decorating their
gingerbread houses,chit-chatting while we're doing
it, and I was so proud of it, Ibrought it home.
Abigail sees it the nextmorning and she was like you
made a gingerbread house withoutme.
I was like, yes, yes, I did,but don't worry, kit wasn't
there.
Nobody was there, it was justme and it was amazing.
(02:15):
Oh my gosh.
Caitlin K (02:17):
Your audio is doing that staticky thing again.
I have all new equipment.
Jenny GK (02:23):
Is it better now?
Yeah, okay, I won't move.
Caitlin K (02:28):
Okay, well, I mean, that sounds like fun, given that
, I will destroy your home,apparently.
Jenny GK (02:37):
No, no, just saying.
Just saying you warm it rightup, I'll eat it.
Have you seen the ones wherepeople, like are not happy with
their gingerbread house so theyput a toy dinosaur on it?
No, but that's kind of awesome.
I like they're like oh mydinosaur ate my uh gingerbread
yeah, I ruined my house.
Caitlin K (02:54):
Smash it up a little bit.
Jenny GK (02:55):
Yeah, that's a good idea I like there was one year
that abby did a murder likecrime scene house.
Uh god, I love that little girl, okay, nope um our gingerbread
houses also normally have somekind of koi pond in the backyard
with goldfish in it oh, that'sa cool idea.
Caitlin K (03:13):
I can get into that.
Jenny GK (03:15):
I'm down, you know I I don't think most people do that
, so that's a nice creative uhalso in this class I learned
that if you turn an ice creamcone upside down and cover in
green frosting, it's now a treeyes, that one I had seen before.
Caitlin K (03:29):
That's a good hack.
Does anybody actually eat redhouses?
Jenny GK (03:32):
oh well, kit asked if he could eat and I said no, it's
like no.
Caitlin K (03:36):
This is food that's sat out like no that I also
touched every bit of andprobably rubbed my nose at some
point, and then oh yeah, and Iwas like cutting candy with
scissors.
Jenny GK (03:47):
I don't even know if those scissors are for food ew,
yuck.
Caitlin K (03:54):
And now let's go to the topic that we're talking
about today?
Jenny GK (03:57):
we're actually here to do something yeah, so um, again
.
Caitlin K (03:59):
today I'm telling you to stop doing these three
things in photos.
My source today is aphotographer, former
photographer for Pure Wow.
Her name is Marissa Wu.
The article is called I'm aPhotographer and these are the
three things you should avoiddoing in photos.
She actually worked at PopularPhotography for a while, also
(04:19):
has credits with Southern Livingand Martha Stewart, so I was
kind of like all right, thisgirl at least knows what she's
talking about.
Jenny GK (04:24):
She knows what she's doing.
Caitlin K (04:25):
Yeah, exactly, okay.
So first tip that she.
So, on the article, if you lookat it um which I'll link it, of
course, in the blog post fortoday you'll see that there's a
a what to do picture and whatnot to do picture.
Oh my gosh, love it.
Jenny GK (04:44):
And the not to do.
Picture and what not to dopicture oh my gosh, love it.
Caitlin K (04:45):
and the not to do picture cracks me up because the
description that she'sproviding is dead on accurate.
Okay, so what she says thefirst thing to do is do not lace
your fingers together.
Okay, because she had aprofessor who was like your
fingers will look like slugs.
And when you see the picture,like, look at my hands right now
Right, that is interesting theylook like little.
(05:08):
And she also says this appliesto solo pictures and couples
pictures, like the couplespictures, where you're like, oh,
it's so sweet, it makes yourhands no, it looks, it makes
your fingers look gross.
And I have very short stubbyfingers and I have long nails on
them because it I feel like itmakes my fingers look less
stubby fingers and I have longnails on them because it I feel
like it makes my fingers lookless stubby.
And so the last thing I want inmy photos is to have sluggy,
(05:31):
stubby fingers.
Jenny GK (05:33):
It just makes me uncomfortable.
I I would want to meet thewoman who says I want to have
stubby, sluggy fingers in myfingers.
Caitlin K (05:41):
I literally put in the notes nobody wants to have
their fingers look like slugs,because that's gross.
Like who wants that?
So here's what you do.
Instead, you overlap yourfingers like princess hands.
Jenny GK (05:54):
You know, that is actually why Kate Middleton
carries a clutch.
Caitlin K (05:58):
Yes, because it means there's nothing in there.
Jenny GK (06:00):
It's not like she has to show her ID somewhere or has
car keys.
She's holding it, so she hassomething to do with her hands.
She holds it with one hand andthen holds her hand with the
other.
Caitlin K (06:11):
Exactly so.
That's the next tip is, ifyou're not going to have
anything in your hands and youjust overlap them, instead you
could put something in yourhands so that your hands have a
task.
So you can hold your blazerlapel, because all of us are
wearing blazers all the time.
Um, you can hold your skirt,like, just hold the side.
You can put, rest your hand onthe fence that you're standing
(06:32):
next to, or, if it's a christmasphoto with family or a holiday
photo with family, you put yourhand on your child's shoulders,
something with your hands, holda beverage, whatever it is, just
put something in your hand.
Jenny GK (06:45):
I have also seen um show your accessories.
Oh so, like, put your hand onyour earring or grab your your
bracelet.
Um play with your necklace,like do do something with what
you're wearing.
I like that, um, because it'slike natural and not to bring
another princess into it, butMeghan Markle always touches her
(07:07):
earring Because it makes herturn her face a little bit.
So you get a little profileshot.
Yes, and it has her hand likedaintily touching her neck, so
she's always like fiddling withher earring for her pictures.
Caitlin K (07:18):
But it also kind of looks like you might be tucking
your hair behind your ear orsomething.
So it's sort of it is a verynatural sort of look.
It's not just like let me showyou my earring, right right,
right, yeah, no.
Jenny GK (07:28):
In your mind you're saying show off your accessories
In your body.
You're actually just touchingthem somehow, Right?
Or featuring them in yourmovement.
Caitlin K (07:34):
I like that one Okay.
Jenny GK (07:38):
Second tip.
Caitlin K (07:40):
Does this involve slugs?
No, no, but it does involvemeaty thighs, which I am
familiar with Okay.
I have those former.
I didn't play soccer for solong that like they're super
prominent, but I do have, likeformer soccer player, thigh and
calf issues.
So my legs are meaty, okay, andI just have meaty thighs.
So, um, don't put all of yourweight on your front leg.
Jenny GK (08:03):
Okay.
Caitlin K (08:04):
Now, when you pop one leg meaning like you bend one
knee and you sort of pop the legout the goal is to make you
have an S sort of curve to yourbody right.
It's supposed to be moreflattering.
The problem with doing that isthat most people put the weight
on the wrong leg.
Okay, they put the weight onthe front leg.
(08:26):
Put their, they put the weighton the front leg with the one
that's closer to the camera,which just makes it look bigger.
So when you do the s thing, thepopping thing, you're supposed
to put the weight on the backleg, okay, and sort of just like
rest your other foot on theground, if that makes any sense,
like yes, it's so.
Jenny GK (08:44):
My friend who is a photographer yes, many years ago
I'm talking like more than adecade told me whatever is
closest to the camera is biggest.
Yes, so, and she was helping meout, um, by saying like, move
your head a little further sothat you don't have the, so that
you don't have the double chin.
(09:05):
Yeah, but that makes sense.
If you put all your weight onyour front leg like, that front
leg is going to look bigger thanthe rest of your body Right and
it already looks bigger thanthe rest of your body.
Caitlin K (09:15):
So then you're like emphasizing it by popping it
into the.
Jenny GK (09:18):
You've lost the angle that you were trying to build
Right and instead just turnedyour leg into an elephant leg.
Caitlin K (09:24):
Right, exactly, it's not an S anymore, it's a it's a
tree trunk.
Right.
Jenny GK (09:32):
Okay, got it, got it Right.
Caitlin K (09:33):
So.
So what do I do instead?
Instead, you're going toreverse the weight.
You put your weight on the backleg and pop the front leg,
cause when you do that, you'regoing to slim out the front one
a little bit more.
Um.
So when you, the same thing,because when you do that, you're
going to slim out the front onea little bit more.
Um.
So when you, the same thingapplies when you cross your legs
.
And if you're sitting in apicture, um, the leg that is
close to the camera should becrossed over the leg that's
(09:56):
further away.
So you, you want to make surethat whatever weight you're
putting in, you put it in theone that's further away from the
camera.
Just to emphasize oneproportionality and two, like S
and not tree trunk, right, likethat's what we're doing.
So shift that weight to theback leg, okay, okay, the last
one.
This is where I really it's onething I'm already awkward.
Jenny GK (10:18):
I have an image of tree trunk Like.
I can't take that out of myhead.
Caitlin K (10:21):
Well, you gave me elephant legs, so that's where
my brain is right.
Um I this is probably the onethat's hardest for me.
Jenny GK (10:29):
Hands I can handle, but arms I can handle yeah, I
can, yeah, very very sorry yeah,no, I got you totally arms are
where I really struggle coffeewhere I'm like arms, arms down,
arms off, to the like what arms?
All right, and you can't.
You can't do the teacup anymorebecause it's like not 2004
(10:51):
except you can, okay, so um,here's, here's my sister calls
it the skinny arm I'm going forit.
Caitlin K (10:59):
I don't care.
We just talked about how weneed to make things look slimmer
in the picture.
Jenny GK (11:03):
I'm gonna do a skinny arm, it's fine so okay, tell us
how to do it naturally, to wherewe don't look like we're taking
a picture in our collegesorority okay.
Caitlin K (11:10):
So uh, she says to the former sorority girl okay,
so here's what you don't do, youdon't push, oh my gosh, I just
looked at the note, at the notes, and you literally used the
word teapot.
Jenny GK (11:23):
Yes, I didn't even see that.
That's just what I've called it.
That is hilarious.
Okay, continue on.
Caitlin K (11:28):
So you don't push your arms into your sides, so
like arms straight down makeseverything look wider.
Right the line that Marissa Wu,the author uses is no matter how
pretty someone is, their armwill still look bad According to
cultural beauty standards,splayed out and flat like
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roadkill against their torso.
Ew, I was like that is whatsold me on this article.
Is that line right there?
Cause that's so real.
To say something like roadkilland have it published on a
website, Cause that's exactlywhat all of us are thinking,
right Like we're all like,especially if you're not wearing
sleeves.
Jenny GK (12:09):
It's like really not flattering.
Caitlin K (12:10):
Oh, it's not flattering at all.
No, you can't have it.
So here's what you do.
All right, you teapot yourself.
Jenny GK (12:17):
Okay.
Caitlin K (12:18):
And she says the teapot pose may live in Y2K
infamy and she's not wrong.
But if you have no other ideas,it does work, so you might as
well go for it, okay.
Jenny GK (12:29):
Okay.
Caitlin K (12:31):
What that means is you have like you pretend you
know I'm a little teapot youhave your arms sort of teapotted
bent so that your elbow is outand your hand is in towards your
waist.
Okay, so it looks like you'remaking a triangle, with your arm
up against your body.
Okay.
She also says you can level itup with what this Pure Wow
beauty director named Jenny Jin,whose articles we've also
(12:53):
featured on this show, calls theraptor pose.
And now, this is not likepretend you're a T-Rex.
This is not.
Jenny GK (13:00):
Okay, I kind of want to do that, because that is
where my brain went Okay, okay,because that is where my brain
went, okay.
Caitlin K (13:06):
But she calls them princesses.
Yeah, both of us have sons, ofcourse.
We went to Dinosaur, right,well, and we just got off of a
Disney cruise.
So my brain also went Toy Story, like with the dinosaur
creature.
Oh, yes, right, like, yeah.
So isn't that the voice of theguy from Princess Bride?
Isn't that the same dude?
Oh, the same dude.
(13:31):
Oh yeah, it's got to be right.
Okay, it's inconceivable thatit wouldn't be right.
Jenny GK (13:32):
yeah, thank you, okay, um so you hold your hands in
front of you like you're holdinga purse, and then you put your
elbows out away.
So like right or right, becauseyou're not holding the purse as
the length of your arms, you'reholding it like at your belt
buckle right, which makes yourarms bend to give you an angle
right and then, and then youunnaturally probably force them
outward a little bit.
Right.
Caitlin K (13:47):
So it's not.
It also straightens out yourshoulders a little bit.
It does.
Look, I'm doing it right now.
Jenny GK (13:50):
I mean, obviously you can't look, this is an audio
only format.
But as I do that, I can feel mywhole, exactly.
Caitlin K (13:58):
Yeah, and the way that I kind of think of it is um
, anytime, we're going for likehaving a, a body and then arms.
We're not trying to have likebody, arms right, it's like we
talk about like cankles.
You want to have definitionbetween the two things.
So when your arms are smooshedup against your body, it just
looks like body with some handshanging off the side.
(14:20):
But if you, you create somespace, jenny's looking at me I'm
dying.
Jenny GK (14:25):
I'm like imagining a toddler drawing with like hands
coming out the side.
Caitlin K (14:30):
Right, it's like knee Body arms, body arms.
As I lovingly referred to mybutt and thigh to my friend
Amanda, it's my bi right, likeit's just, it's all one thing
and they're supposed to bedistinct.
So if your arms are notdistinct from the rest of your
body, it looks ridiculous.
(14:51):
So you need to separate.
So that's why teapot arms work,because you're creating space
and separation between the armand the rest of your body.
You're removing the arms andturning it into a body.
I also like the hands on eachother's shoulders.
Again, that opens you up thearm and the rest of your body.
Jenny GK (15:03):
Yes, you're removing the arms and turning it into.
I also like the like hands oneach other's shoulders.
Caitlin K (15:07):
Again, that like opens you up so you can put your
hands on the people near you Itypically demand to be in the
middle of of group photosbecause then I can put my arms
behind people right, and I don'thave.
It opens you up right, but Ialso don't have to think about
what I'm doing with my hands.
But that doesn't always workwhen you have three sisters and
(15:28):
one of whom is very insistent ononly taking pictures on one
side of her body.
Actually, I have two of themwho do that, so it's very
difficult to make that happen.
Jenny GK (15:36):
It's not the different side.
Caitlin K (15:37):
No, it's not, it's the same.
No, right, that's what I'msaying.
Jenny GK (15:40):
No no, I also like the move of sticking one hand up in
the air.
Yes, you do that a lot Like I'mCher.
Yes, but also.
Caitlin K (15:48):
But again, it elongates me.
It elongates and it lendsitself to that S shape.
Right yeah, as long as you'reputting your weight on the back
leg, it lends itself to that Sshape.
Jenny GK (16:08):
But you got to be a special level of look at me
Right, right, yeah.
Caitlin K (16:09):
That's what that is what that is.
It is a look at me photo.
Ok, so the three things we'renot going to do we're not going
to lace our fingers together,we're not going to put all the
weight on our front leg and makeit look like a tree trunk, and
we're not going to put arms intosides and create arms.
Ok, got it All right.
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Jenny GK (16:48):
And now back to the show.
All right, so now we're back.
Um, let me tell you what I amobsessed with.
Yeah, I want to hear it it isthe time of year where we are
having all of the parties.
Caitlin K (16:55):
Yeah, that's why.
I did pick.
That's why we did the thingabout photos.
Right, right, right right, Um,exactly.
Jenny GK (17:01):
So what I'm obsessed with right now?
Caitlin K (17:07):
um, exactly so what I'm obsessed with right now
minute to win at games.
Oh it's like what I bring to aparty now.
Jenny GK (17:09):
Yeah, yeah so, instead of saying like, oh, I'll bring
a cheese plate, like somethingthat takes work, I'm like, oh,
I'll bring a game, and so myfavorite one right now is the
only thing you need is a dozencandy canes okay, but you need a
dozen per team okay, those areeasy, though.
Caitlin K (17:27):
Those like what?
Two bucks?
Jenny GK (17:28):
really easy, yeah and they're yeah, right, so one
person puts the candy cane intheir mouth with the hook out
and everyone else spreads thecandy canes the 11 remaining on
the floor and that person has tohook them and collect them.
Caitlin K (17:48):
The person who the team that gets their 11 picked
up fastest wins that'shysterical it's amazing I saw
one that was um big marshmallowson a table and you put your
kids hands in red solo cups andthey have to pick them.
Jenny GK (18:06):
Yeah, those are just that's amazing, those are, so
there's tons of them out there.
Um, I think we have talkedabout them on the show before,
but to me it's it's like it'sthe easiest thing to bring to a
party.
Um, it's also not a 30 minutegame that people are like, okay,
we're over this, and there'ssome that are messy, like how
fast can you wrap your friend?
(18:26):
Um, but it's also fun, right?
And it just costs a roll ofwrapping paper and tape.
But um, the they're, they'refun and they don't take up much
time, they don't cost a lot ofmoney and it gets you off the
hook for having to cook.
Caitlin K (18:42):
There's also like something uniquely, also
something uniquely bonding aboutthose activities because
they're funny.
We've talked about this before.
Anytime you laugh together, itdoesn't need to be a long game,
it just needs to be funny.
Jenny GK (18:55):
You do not need any athletic ability to be talented
at these games.
Caitlin K (19:00):
I wish that when people are doing professional
development games that are meantto be bonding, if you focused
on laughing as opposed tosharing, you would bond people a
lot faster.
I don't get why that's not athing.
Jenny GK (19:17):
If I have to make one more spaghetti and marshmallow
tower, I swear no no, those areawful like no more stem
challenges.
Just make me laugh, no make melaugh, have me do something
completely and totallyridiculous.
I loved this game.
(19:37):
It was done in about 12 secondsoh yeah the fastest kid was
incredible.
We were like why are you goodat this?
Oh, there was another one thatI played recently where we took
everybody had tiny, like the funsize M&Ms.
Caitlin K (19:59):
Oh yeah.
Jenny GK (19:59):
Okay, okay.
And then there are cards in thecolors of M&Ms Okay.
And so you open your bag whenthey say go, and you have to
sort them onto the colors, andeveryone on your team has to get
their bag sorted to be done.
Oh gosh, but everyone's sortingat the same time.
(20:20):
Yeah, okay.
So again it happens.
In like 20 seconds Everybody'sdone and people are frantically
moving M&M's around the table.
Caitlin K (20:28):
Red that's pretty funny.
Yeah, I could see middleschoolers turning this into.
Well, we played with middleschoolers and then they ate the
m&ms, which I thought wasdisgusting.
Jenny GK (20:39):
Yeah, I was like you guys.
Everyone has touched these atthe table.
Caitlin K (20:43):
Yeah, can we wash hands before we do this?
A little gross, okay, well okay, sorry, that's my obsession.
Jenny GK (20:48):
What's yours?
Caitlin K (20:48):
okay.
Well, speaking of laughing, Idon't know how often the muppet
christmas carol like appears inyour christmas movie lineup, but
it needs to be all the time,because I've watched it twice
already this season.
That's nothing compared to howmany times we've already watched
Home Alone, which is like 12.
But it is hysterical.
(21:09):
And one of my favorite thingsin this world is Muppets acting
like regular adults and breakingcharacter and or having
bloopers, like unhinged Elmowhen he breaks the fourth wall
and like cannot handle Zoetalking about Rocco is one of my
most like.
I will cry laughing every timeit's so good.
(21:31):
So not only am I obsessed withMuppet Christmas Carol, but I
also found an Instagram reel ofMuppet Christmas Carol bloopers.
Jenny GK (21:41):
I am all about it.
You know I love the Muppets.
Yes, I do know you, I love theMuppets.
And when we were on this tripwe should probably recap we
should recap at some point yeah,one of the things that you
could do is solve a Muppetmystery, and there was a little
girl solving the missing 101Dalmatian puppy mystery.
(22:03):
Oh, that's cute so it uses thesame technology but, depending
on what mystery you're doing iswhat the screen plays for you
right, yeah, that's cool yousign up.
Okay, I'm doing the muppets, butwe were at the same station and
she was waiting to do thepuppies and we were doing the
muppets and she was like what isthat?
And I looked at her parents indisgust and I was like what do
you mean?
Your kid doesn't know what theew judgy wudgy no, no, I didn't,
(22:26):
I didn't.
So I'm telling her, like, theseare the muppets.
They were created by a magicalman named jim henson and and I'm
like giving her the whole storyand I'm like pointing to each
of the muppets on the seat and Iwas like this one is miss piggy
.
She's the prettiest but she'snot the nicest one and she's
like daisy duck.
Caitlin K (22:44):
she's a diva, but even sassier it was too funny.
Jenny GK (22:48):
I'm like exploring this whole Muppet world with her
while we're waiting for a 30second video clip to play for
the team in front of us and herparents just kind of look at me
like who is this crazy Muppetlady and why is she talking to
my kids?
Caitlin K (23:01):
First of all, if you're feeling that way about
other adults on Disney Cruisetalking to your kid, then you
need to go somewhere.
Second of all, make your kid,then you need to go somewhere.
Second of all, make your kidwatch the Muppet Christmas Carol
.
Jenny GK (23:10):
Oh my gosh, it's so good.
It's so good Rizzo, the ratsteals the show.
Oh yeah, like the lamp of therat, he's my favorite Muppet,
for sure.
Caitlin K (23:16):
Oh yeah, I also.
I do love the Swedish chef guy,because he's just so ridiculous
.
Anyway.
So in this blooper, this oneparticular one, you know, the,
the ghost of christmas present,this massive oh yeah, muppet,
who's probably got a personinside of him because he's so
big.
Oh sure, they're walking thestreets of london with michael
(23:37):
cain of all people, and at onepoint he gestures wildly and
hits michael cain in the face.
It brought tears to my eyesbecause Michael Caine's like
trying not to break character,but he does, like it's so good,
and I just, sam, has been antiuntil this year where I was like
(24:01):
no, we are watching thistogether because it's funny, and
I think the cruise sort ofhelped that a little bit because
he knows who they are now.
But it just it's making melaugh and it's funny, and I
think the cruise sort of helpedthat a little bit because he
knows who they are now.
But it's making me laugh andit's bringing joy to my heart.
It's such a good Christmasstory.
And then you add to it, likeanytime there's jokes for adults
it's just going to make it thatmuch more entertaining.
Jenny GK (24:22):
That's one of the things that's great about the
Muppets is that it definitelymeets everyone.
Caitlin K (24:28):
Yes.
Jenny GK (24:31):
It meets everyone's needs.
It's good for everybody.
Yeah, so in muppet news did youhear that they are rebranding
the aerosmith rock and rollercoaster to be the muppets rock
and roller coaster?
Caitlin K (24:42):
I did not know that, but animal should be featured
heavily on that just to bridgethat, it's gonna be the electric
mayhem, the whole band.
Jenny GK (24:49):
Oh yeah, it's gonna be good.
Caitlin K (24:53):
It's gonna be really good now.
Jenny GK (24:55):
The sad part about that is they're closing muppets
3d oh no, and guys, that waslike one of the best places to
sit in air conditioning in themiddle of the day.
You have to wait for the show,then the show's 25 minutes long,
like it was it was a reallygood break, yeah so you have to
(25:17):
do the frozen sing-along butthat's okay I don't mind singing
a lot of frozen, so good yeahand um.
The rumor is that while they'reclosing it, they are trying to
find a way to put it somewhereelse, because they do know that
it's a fan favorite and PizzaRizzo is closing it's rat pizza.
Caitlin K (25:36):
What does he say in that movie?
It's like my mom told me neverto eat stinging food.
Yeah, like what, like what.
Jenny GK (25:44):
Okay, all right.
So, gem of the week, abigail istrying to bake something and,
um, all of the measurements arein um, large quantities for like
.
It's like a legit baker'srecipe.
Okay, right.
So everything is measured in umweight, yes, or volume instead
(26:08):
of like item.
So, instead of like a cup offlour, you need 300 grams of
flour, whatever.
Well, we have a food scale, soit's fine.
But the eggs are measured 800milliliters of eggs, oh gosh,
it's like I don't even know.
Caitlin K (26:24):
Right, just put the thing on the scale and start
counting.
Jenny GK (26:29):
We have to like measure the volume of an egg.
Yeah Well, I didn't do thatBecause that would have been
smart.
So instead I start Googling howmany eggs in 800 milliliters.
I'm like someone somewhere gota flag that someone Googled this
.
Caitlin K (26:45):
Yeah, and what's the answer?
Do you know?
Jenny GK (26:48):
It's between 14 and 17 .
That's a lot of eggs and it's alot of eggs, but it's making a
mousse okay, but that's a lot ofmousse too it's a filling oh,
okay understood yeah, she'smaking a yule log.
Nice, I love it yeah, I waslike uh, excuse me, what 800
milliliters of?
(27:08):
Who is measuring their eggs inmilliliters?
I am measuring them in each.
Caitlin K (27:12):
Right or dozen.
Jenny GK (27:13):
Do you need?
Caitlin K (27:14):
to go get a carton, like just go get one of those
like liquid eggs cartons.
Ugh, gross, okay, mine is.
Instinctively, when someoneputs their finger in my face, I
try to bite it.
It's just a thing.
Jenny GK (27:29):
It's like if you put your hand over my mouth to make
me stop talking, I'm going tolick you.
Caitlin K (27:33):
I'm going to lick it, right.
So Sam's thing is to put hisfinger near my mouth and watch
me try to bite it.
And he says the other day hesays to my father-in-law, cappy,
my mom bites, and he, it's hislike.
His thing is to like, tellpeople that I bite like a dog,
like careful, she bites, right.
So he's like that's a goodthing for people to know about
(27:54):
you.
It is, I agree.
And then at one point he didstick his finger in my mouth.
I did bite it.
And then he goes stop it, letgo of me.
I'm not a bagel.
It made me laugh like I, so Iinstinctively let go.
Otherwise I would have held onto that finger.
But I was like I don't know,that's your go-to Bagel, like
what?
That's the thing I bite themost.
(28:14):
Apparently I do like bagels,but still they're chewy.
He doesn't eat bagels.
Where would that come from?
I'm not a bagel.
Ok, so two things we learnedthere.
Jenny GK (28:32):
One he thinks I eat them a lot, and two I bite, so
don't stick your finger in myface.
Caitlin K (28:36):
Fyi, I think you need a shirt that just says I bite.
I probably do.
I probably do need that shirt Ithink that's a good one.
Speaking of don't bite people,yeah, yeah, make good choices.
Don't don't take your finger inmy face, uh, and no slug
fingers.
Yeah, or we'll bite.
(28:56):
Or barbs or no slug fingers,yeah, I don't bite.
Slug fingers gross.
Okay, bye.
it's the most wonderful day of the week yeah,
guys, it's tuesday.
Caitlin K (00:12):
Uh, we're so glad you're here.
It's the holiday season, um,which means it's photo season,
it's the holiday season yes, itis.
And if you're like me and youjust hate what you look like in
photos, which is because I don'tknow what to do with my body
parts sometimes my face evenlooks like I'm like, it's like
(00:33):
unhappy housewife smile, whereyou're like kind of smiling um,
these tips are for you.
So today, um, we have anarticle that we're referencing
about how to not do weird thingswith your body in photos, but
first, but first she turns thisgingerbread house into a
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gingerbread home.
It's caitlin oh, she's mysneakily talented hawk.
That's jenny.
Yours are always so sweet in myor like yeah that was
tongue-in-cheek.
Let's be real.
Jenny GK (01:10):
I mean ew, but thanks um, I didn't say what kind of
home, ah, no, um, so I I took agingerbread like decorating
class this week.
Um, because, of course, you didit was the first time I had
(01:32):
done a gingerbread house sanskids in 13 years and I was so
proud of it you didn't usegraham crackers on the side of a
milk carton to make no no, no,like this.
Oh, it was really cool.
Like they had the housesalready assembled, you were
literally just decorating them.
But I, like I was not.
I was doing it by myself, I washaving so much fun.
(01:55):
Uh, it was half a dozen womenjust decorating their
gingerbread houses,chit-chatting while we're doing
it, and I was so proud of it, Ibrought it home.
Abigail sees it the nextmorning and she was like you
made a gingerbread house withoutme.
I was like, yes, yes, I did,but don't worry, kit wasn't
there.
Nobody was there, it was justme and it was amazing.
(02:15):
Oh my gosh.
Caitlin K (02:17):
Your audio is doing that staticky thing again.
I have all new equipment.
Jenny GK (02:23):
Is it better now?
Yeah, okay, I won't move.
Caitlin K (02:28):
Okay, well, I mean, that sounds like fun, given that
, I will destroy your home,apparently.
Jenny GK (02:37):
No, no, just saying.
Just saying you warm it rightup, I'll eat it.
Have you seen the ones wherepeople, like are not happy with
their gingerbread house so theyput a toy dinosaur on it?
No, but that's kind of awesome.
I like they're like oh mydinosaur ate my uh gingerbread
yeah, I ruined my house.
Caitlin K (02:54):
Smash it up a little bit.
Jenny GK (02:55):
Yeah, that's a good idea I like there was one year
that abby did a murder likecrime scene house.
Uh god, I love that little girl, okay, nope um our gingerbread
houses also normally have somekind of koi pond in the backyard
with goldfish in it oh, that'sa cool idea.
Caitlin K (03:13):
I can get into that.
Jenny GK (03:15):
I'm down, you know I I don't think most people do that
, so that's a nice creative uhalso in this class I learned
that if you turn an ice creamcone upside down and cover in
green frosting, it's now a treeyes, that one I had seen before.
Caitlin K (03:29):
That's a good hack.
Does anybody actually eat redhouses?
Jenny GK (03:32):
oh well, kit asked if he could eat and I said no, it's
like no.
Caitlin K (03:36):
This is food that's sat out like no that I also
touched every bit of andprobably rubbed my nose at some
point, and then oh yeah, and Iwas like cutting candy with
scissors.
Jenny GK (03:47):
I don't even know if those scissors are for food ew,
yuck.
Caitlin K (03:54):
And now let's go to the topic that we're talking
about today?
Jenny GK (03:57):
we're actually here to do something yeah, so um, again
.
Caitlin K (03:59):
today I'm telling you to stop doing these three
things in photos.
My source today is aphotographer, former
photographer for Pure Wow.
Her name is Marissa Wu.
The article is called I'm aPhotographer and these are the
three things you should avoiddoing in photos.
She actually worked at PopularPhotography for a while, also
(04:19):
has credits with Southern Livingand Martha Stewart, so I was
kind of like all right, thisgirl at least knows what she's
talking about.
Jenny GK (04:24):
She knows what she's doing.
Caitlin K (04:25):
Yeah, exactly, okay.
So first tip that she.
So, on the article, if you lookat it um which I'll link it, of
course, in the blog post fortoday you'll see that there's a
a what to do picture and whatnot to do picture.
Oh my gosh, love it.
Jenny GK (04:44):
And the not to do.
Picture and what not to dopicture oh my gosh, love it.
Caitlin K (04:45):
and the not to do picture cracks me up because the
description that she'sproviding is dead on accurate.
Okay, so what she says thefirst thing to do is do not lace
your fingers together.
Okay, because she had aprofessor who was like your
fingers will look like slugs.
And when you see the picture,like, look at my hands right now
Right, that is interesting theylook like little.
(05:08):
And she also says this appliesto solo pictures and couples
pictures, like the couplespictures, where you're like, oh,
it's so sweet, it makes yourhands no, it looks, it makes
your fingers look gross.
And I have very short stubbyfingers and I have long nails on
them because it I feel like itmakes my fingers look less
stubby fingers and I have longnails on them because it I feel
like it makes my fingers lookless stubby.
And so the last thing I want inmy photos is to have sluggy,
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stubby fingers.
Jenny GK (05:33):
It just makes me uncomfortable.
I I would want to meet thewoman who says I want to have
stubby, sluggy fingers in myfingers.
Caitlin K (05:41):
I literally put in the notes nobody wants to have
their fingers look like slugs,because that's gross.
Like who wants that?
So here's what you do.
Instead, you overlap yourfingers like princess hands.
Jenny GK (05:54):
You know, that is actually why Kate Middleton
carries a clutch.
Caitlin K (05:58):
Yes, because it means there's nothing in there.
Jenny GK (06:00):
It's not like she has to show her ID somewhere or has
car keys.
She's holding it, so she hassomething to do with her hands.
She holds it with one hand andthen holds her hand with the
other.
Caitlin K (06:11):
Exactly so.
That's the next tip is, ifyou're not going to have
anything in your hands and youjust overlap them, instead you
could put something in yourhands so that your hands have a
task.
So you can hold your blazerlapel, because all of us are
wearing blazers all the time.
Um, you can hold your skirt,like, just hold the side.
You can put, rest your hand onthe fence that you're standing
(06:32):
next to, or, if it's a christmasphoto with family or a holiday
photo with family, you put yourhand on your child's shoulders,
something with your hands, holda beverage, whatever it is, just
put something in your hand.
Jenny GK (06:45):
I have also seen um show your accessories.
Oh so, like, put your hand onyour earring or grab your your
bracelet.
Um play with your necklace,like do do something with what
you're wearing.
I like that, um, because it'slike natural and not to bring
another princess into it, butMeghan Markle always touches her
(07:07):
earring Because it makes herturn her face a little bit.
So you get a little profileshot.
Yes, and it has her hand likedaintily touching her neck, so
she's always like fiddling withher earring for her pictures.
Caitlin K (07:18):
But it also kind of looks like you might be tucking
your hair behind your ear orsomething.
So it's sort of it is a verynatural sort of look.
It's not just like let me showyou my earring, right right,
right, yeah, no.
Jenny GK (07:28):
In your mind you're saying show off your accessories
In your body.
You're actually just touchingthem somehow, Right?
Or featuring them in yourmovement.
Caitlin K (07:34):
I like that one Okay.
Jenny GK (07:38):
Second tip.
Caitlin K (07:40):
Does this involve slugs?
No, no, but it does involvemeaty thighs, which I am
familiar with Okay.
I have those former.
I didn't play soccer for solong that like they're super
prominent, but I do have, likeformer soccer player, thigh and
calf issues.
So my legs are meaty, okay, andI just have meaty thighs.
So, um, don't put all of yourweight on your front leg.
Jenny GK (08:03):
Okay.
Caitlin K (08:04):
Now, when you pop one leg meaning like you bend one
knee and you sort of pop the legout the goal is to make you
have an S sort of curve to yourbody right.
It's supposed to be moreflattering.
The problem with doing that isthat most people put the weight
on the wrong leg.
Okay, they put the weight onthe front leg.
(08:26):
Put their, they put the weighton the front leg with the one
that's closer to the camera,which just makes it look bigger.
So when you do the s thing, thepopping thing, you're supposed
to put the weight on the backleg, okay, and sort of just like
rest your other foot on theground, if that makes any sense,
like yes, it's so.
Jenny GK (08:44):
My friend who is a photographer yes, many years ago
I'm talking like more than adecade told me whatever is
closest to the camera is biggest.
Yes, so, and she was helping meout, um, by saying like, move
your head a little further sothat you don't have the, so that
you don't have the double chin.
(09:05):
Yeah, but that makes sense.
If you put all your weight onyour front leg like, that front
leg is going to look bigger thanthe rest of your body Right and
it already looks bigger thanthe rest of your body.
Caitlin K (09:15):
So then you're like emphasizing it by popping it
into the.
Jenny GK (09:18):
You've lost the angle that you were trying to build
Right and instead just turnedyour leg into an elephant leg.
Caitlin K (09:24):
Right, exactly, it's not an S anymore, it's a it's a
tree trunk.
Right.
Jenny GK (09:32):
Okay, got it, got it Right.
Caitlin K (09:33):
So.
So what do I do instead?
Instead, you're going toreverse the weight.
You put your weight on the backleg and pop the front leg,
cause when you do that, you'regoing to slim out the front one
a little bit more.
Um.
So when you, the same thing,because when you do that, you're
going to slim out the front onea little bit more.
Um.
So when you, the same thingapplies when you cross your legs
.
And if you're sitting in apicture, um, the leg that is
close to the camera should becrossed over the leg that's
(09:56):
further away.
So you, you want to make surethat whatever weight you're
putting in, you put it in theone that's further away from the
camera.
Just to emphasize oneproportionality and two, like S
and not tree trunk, right, likethat's what we're doing.
So shift that weight to theback leg, okay, okay, the last
one.
This is where I really it's onething I'm already awkward.
Jenny GK (10:18):
I have an image of tree trunk Like.
I can't take that out of myhead.
Caitlin K (10:21):
Well, you gave me elephant legs, so that's where
my brain is right.
Um I this is probably the onethat's hardest for me.
Jenny GK (10:29):
Hands I can handle, but arms I can handle yeah, I
can, yeah, very very sorry yeah,no, I got you totally arms are
where I really struggle coffeewhere I'm like arms, arms down,
arms off, to the like what arms?
All right, and you can't.
You can't do the teacup anymorebecause it's like not 2004
(10:51):
except you can, okay, so um,here's, here's my sister calls
it the skinny arm I'm going forit.
Caitlin K (10:59):
I don't care.
We just talked about how weneed to make things look slimmer
in the picture.
Jenny GK (11:03):
I'm gonna do a skinny arm, it's fine so okay, tell us
how to do it naturally, to wherewe don't look like we're taking
a picture in our collegesorority okay.
Caitlin K (11:10):
So uh, she says to the former sorority girl okay,
so here's what you don't do, youdon't push, oh my gosh, I just
looked at the note, at the notes, and you literally used the
word teapot.
Jenny GK (11:23):
Yes, I didn't even see that.
That's just what I've called it.
That is hilarious.
Okay, continue on.
Caitlin K (11:28):
So you don't push your arms into your sides, so
like arms straight down makeseverything look wider.
Right the line that Marissa Wu,the author uses is no matter how
pretty someone is, their armwill still look bad According to
cultural beauty standards,splayed out and flat like
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roadkill against their torso.
Ew, I was like that is whatsold me on this article.
Is that line right there?
Cause that's so real.
To say something like roadkilland have it published on a
website, Cause that's exactlywhat all of us are thinking,
right Like we're all like,especially if you're not wearing
sleeves.
Jenny GK (12:09):
It's like really not flattering.
Caitlin K (12:10):
Oh, it's not flattering at all.
No, you can't have it.
So here's what you do.
All right, you teapot yourself.
Jenny GK (12:17):
Okay.
Caitlin K (12:18):
And she says the teapot pose may live in Y2K
infamy and she's not wrong.
But if you have no other ideas,it does work, so you might as
well go for it, okay.
Jenny GK (12:29):
Okay.
Caitlin K (12:31):
What that means is you have like you pretend you
know I'm a little teapot youhave your arms sort of teapotted
bent so that your elbow is outand your hand is in towards your
waist.
Okay, so it looks like you'remaking a triangle, with your arm
up against your body.
Okay.
She also says you can level itup with what this Pure Wow
beauty director named Jenny Jin,whose articles we've also
(12:53):
featured on this show, calls theraptor pose.
And now, this is not likepretend you're a T-Rex.
This is not.
Jenny GK (13:00):
Okay, I kind of want to do that, because that is
where my brain went Okay, okay,because that is where my brain
went, okay.
Caitlin K (13:06):
But she calls them princesses.
Yeah, both of us have sons, ofcourse.
We went to Dinosaur, right,well, and we just got off of a
Disney cruise.
So my brain also went Toy Story, like with the dinosaur
creature.
Oh, yes, right, like, yeah.
So isn't that the voice of theguy from Princess Bride?
Isn't that the same dude?
Oh, the same dude.
(13:31):
Oh yeah, it's got to be right.
Okay, it's inconceivable thatit wouldn't be right.
Jenny GK (13:32):
yeah, thank you, okay, um so you hold your hands in
front of you like you're holdinga purse, and then you put your
elbows out away.
So like right or right, becauseyou're not holding the purse as
the length of your arms, you'reholding it like at your belt
buckle right, which makes yourarms bend to give you an angle
right and then, and then youunnaturally probably force them
outward a little bit.
Right.
Caitlin K (13:47):
So it's not.
It also straightens out yourshoulders a little bit.
It does.
Look, I'm doing it right now.
Jenny GK (13:50):
I mean, obviously you can't look, this is an audio
only format.
But as I do that, I can feel mywhole, exactly.
Caitlin K (13:58):
Yeah, and the way that I kind of think of it is um
, anytime, we're going for likehaving a, a body and then arms.
We're not trying to have likebody, arms right, it's like we
talk about like cankles.
You want to have definitionbetween the two things.
So when your arms are smooshedup against your body, it just
looks like body with some handshanging off the side.
(14:20):
But if you, you create somespace, jenny's looking at me I'm
dying.
Jenny GK (14:25):
I'm like imagining a toddler drawing with like hands
coming out the side.
Caitlin K (14:30):
Right, it's like knee Body arms, body arms.
As I lovingly referred to mybutt and thigh to my friend
Amanda, it's my bi right, likeit's just, it's all one thing
and they're supposed to bedistinct.
So if your arms are notdistinct from the rest of your
body, it looks ridiculous.
(14:51):
So you need to separate.
So that's why teapot arms work,because you're creating space
and separation between the armand the rest of your body.
You're removing the arms andturning it into a body.
I also like the hands on eachother's shoulders.
Again, that opens you up thearm and the rest of your body.
Jenny GK (15:03):
Yes, you're removing the arms and turning it into.
I also like the like hands oneach other's shoulders.
Caitlin K (15:07):
Again, that like opens you up so you can put your
hands on the people near you Itypically demand to be in the
middle of of group photosbecause then I can put my arms
behind people right, and I don'thave.
It opens you up right, but Ialso don't have to think about
what I'm doing with my hands.
But that doesn't always workwhen you have three sisters and
(15:28):
one of whom is very insistent ononly taking pictures on one
side of her body.
Actually, I have two of themwho do that, so it's very
difficult to make that happen.
Jenny GK (15:36):
It's not the different side.
Caitlin K (15:37):
No, it's not, it's the same.
No, right, that's what I'msaying.
Jenny GK (15:40):
No no, I also like the move of sticking one hand up in
the air.
Yes, you do that a lot Like I'mCher.
Yes, but also.
Caitlin K (15:48):
But again, it elongates me.
It elongates and it lendsitself to that S shape.
Right yeah, as long as you'reputting your weight on the back
leg, it lends itself to that Sshape.
Jenny GK (16:08):
But you got to be a special level of look at me
Right, right, yeah.
Caitlin K (16:09):
That's what that is what that is.
It is a look at me photo.
Ok, so the three things we'renot going to do we're not going
to lace our fingers together,we're not going to put all the
weight on our front leg and makeit look like a tree trunk, and
we're not going to put arms intosides and create arms.
Ok, got it All right.
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Jenny GK (16:48):
And now back to the show.
All right, so now we're back.
Um, let me tell you what I amobsessed with.
Yeah, I want to hear it it isthe time of year where we are
having all of the parties.
Caitlin K (16:55):
Yeah, that's why.
I did pick.
That's why we did the thingabout photos.
Right, right, right right, Um,exactly.
Jenny GK (17:01):
So what I'm obsessed with right now?
Caitlin K (17:07):
um, exactly so what I'm obsessed with right now
minute to win at games.
Oh it's like what I bring to aparty now.
Jenny GK (17:09):
Yeah, yeah so, instead of saying like, oh, I'll bring
a cheese plate, like somethingthat takes work, I'm like, oh,
I'll bring a game, and so myfavorite one right now is the
only thing you need is a dozencandy canes okay, but you need a
dozen per team okay, those areeasy, though.
Caitlin K (17:27):
Those like what?
Two bucks?
Jenny GK (17:28):
really easy, yeah and they're yeah, right, so one
person puts the candy cane intheir mouth with the hook out
and everyone else spreads thecandy canes the 11 remaining on
the floor and that person has tohook them and collect them.
Caitlin K (17:48):
The person who the team that gets their 11 picked
up fastest wins that'shysterical it's amazing I saw
one that was um big marshmallowson a table and you put your
kids hands in red solo cups andthey have to pick them.
Jenny GK (18:06):
Yeah, those are just that's amazing, those are, so
there's tons of them out there.
Um, I think we have talkedabout them on the show before,
but to me it's it's like it'sthe easiest thing to bring to a
party.
Um, it's also not a 30 minutegame that people are like, okay,
we're over this, and there'ssome that are messy, like how
fast can you wrap your friend?
(18:26):
Um, but it's also fun, right?
And it just costs a roll ofwrapping paper and tape.
But um, the they're, they'refun and they don't take up much
time, they don't cost a lot ofmoney and it gets you off the
hook for having to cook.
Caitlin K (18:42):
There's also like something uniquely, also
something uniquely bonding aboutthose activities because
they're funny.
We've talked about this before.
Anytime you laugh together, itdoesn't need to be a long game,
it just needs to be funny.
Jenny GK (18:55):
You do not need any athletic ability to be talented
at these games.
Caitlin K (19:00):
I wish that when people are doing professional
development games that are meantto be bonding, if you focused
on laughing as opposed tosharing, you would bond people a
lot faster.
I don't get why that's not athing.
Jenny GK (19:17):
If I have to make one more spaghetti and marshmallow
tower, I swear no no, those areawful like no more stem
challenges.
Just make me laugh, no make melaugh, have me do something
completely and totallyridiculous.
I loved this game.
(19:37):
It was done in about 12 secondsoh yeah the fastest kid was
incredible.
We were like why are you goodat this?
Oh, there was another one thatI played recently where we took
everybody had tiny, like the funsize M&Ms.
Caitlin K (19:59):
Oh yeah.
Jenny GK (19:59):
Okay, okay.
And then there are cards in thecolors of M&Ms Okay.
And so you open your bag whenthey say go, and you have to
sort them onto the colors, andeveryone on your team has to get
their bag sorted to be done.
Oh gosh, but everyone's sortingat the same time.
(20:20):
Yeah, okay.
So again it happens.
In like 20 seconds Everybody'sdone and people are frantically
moving M&M's around the table.
Caitlin K (20:28):
Red that's pretty funny.
Yeah, I could see middleschoolers turning this into.
Well, we played with middleschoolers and then they ate the
m&ms, which I thought wasdisgusting.
Jenny GK (20:39):
Yeah, I was like you guys.
Everyone has touched these atthe table.
Caitlin K (20:43):
Yeah, can we wash hands before we do this?
A little gross, okay, well okay, sorry, that's my obsession.
Jenny GK (20:48):
What's yours?
Caitlin K (20:48):
okay.
Well, speaking of laughing, Idon't know how often the muppet
christmas carol like appears inyour christmas movie lineup, but
it needs to be all the time,because I've watched it twice
already this season.
That's nothing compared to howmany times we've already watched
Home Alone, which is like 12.
But it is hysterical.
(21:09):
And one of my favorite thingsin this world is Muppets acting
like regular adults and breakingcharacter and or having
bloopers, like unhinged Elmowhen he breaks the fourth wall
and like cannot handle Zoetalking about Rocco is one of my
most like.
I will cry laughing every timeit's so good.
(21:31):
So not only am I obsessed withMuppet Christmas Carol, but I
also found an Instagram reel ofMuppet Christmas Carol bloopers.
Jenny GK (21:41):
I am all about it.
You know I love the Muppets.
Yes, I do know you, I love theMuppets.
And when we were on this tripwe should probably recap we
should recap at some point yeah,one of the things that you
could do is solve a Muppetmystery, and there was a little
girl solving the missing 101Dalmatian puppy mystery.
(22:03):
Oh, that's cute so it uses thesame technology but, depending
on what mystery you're doing iswhat the screen plays for you
right, yeah, that's cool yousign up.
Okay, I'm doing the muppets, butwe were at the same station and
she was waiting to do thepuppies and we were doing the
muppets and she was like what isthat?
And I looked at her parents indisgust and I was like what do
you mean?
Your kid doesn't know what theew judgy wudgy no, no, I didn't,
(22:26):
I didn't.
So I'm telling her, like, theseare the muppets.
They were created by a magicalman named jim henson and and I'm
like giving her the whole storyand I'm like pointing to each
of the muppets on the seat and Iwas like this one is miss piggy
.
She's the prettiest but she'snot the nicest one and she's
like daisy duck.
Caitlin K (22:44):
she's a diva, but even sassier it was too funny.
Jenny GK (22:48):
I'm like exploring this whole Muppet world with her
while we're waiting for a 30second video clip to play for
the team in front of us and herparents just kind of look at me
like who is this crazy Muppetlady and why is she talking to
my kids?
Caitlin K (23:01):
First of all, if you're feeling that way about
other adults on Disney Cruisetalking to your kid, then you
need to go somewhere.
Second of all, make your kid,then you need to go somewhere.
Second of all, make your kidwatch the Muppet Christmas Carol
.
Jenny GK (23:10):
Oh my gosh, it's so good.
It's so good Rizzo, the ratsteals the show.
Oh yeah, like the lamp of therat, he's my favorite Muppet,
for sure.
Caitlin K (23:16):
Oh yeah, I also.
I do love the Swedish chef guy,because he's just so ridiculous
.
Anyway.
So in this blooper, this oneparticular one, you know, the,
the ghost of christmas present,this massive oh yeah, muppet,
who's probably got a personinside of him because he's so
big.
Oh sure, they're walking thestreets of london with michael
(23:37):
cain of all people, and at onepoint he gestures wildly and
hits michael cain in the face.
It brought tears to my eyesbecause Michael Caine's like
trying not to break character,but he does, like it's so good,
and I just, sam, has been antiuntil this year where I was like
(24:01):
no, we are watching thistogether because it's funny, and
I think the cruise sort ofhelped that a little bit because
he knows who they are now.
But it just it's making melaugh and it's funny, and I
think the cruise sort of helpedthat a little bit because he
knows who they are now.
But it's making me laugh andit's bringing joy to my heart.
It's such a good Christmasstory.
And then you add to it, likeanytime there's jokes for adults
it's just going to make it thatmuch more entertaining.
Jenny GK (24:22):
That's one of the things that's great about the
Muppets is that it definitelymeets everyone.
Caitlin K (24:28):
Yes.
Jenny GK (24:31):
It meets everyone's needs.
It's good for everybody.
Yeah, so in muppet news did youhear that they are rebranding
the aerosmith rock and rollercoaster to be the muppets rock
and roller coaster?
Caitlin K (24:42):
I did not know that, but animal should be featured
heavily on that just to bridgethat, it's gonna be the electric
mayhem, the whole band.
Jenny GK (24:49):
Oh yeah, it's gonna be good.
Caitlin K (24:53):
It's gonna be really good now.
Jenny GK (24:55):
The sad part about that is they're closing muppets
3d oh no, and guys, that waslike one of the best places to
sit in air conditioning in themiddle of the day.
You have to wait for the show,then the show's 25 minutes long,
like it was it was a reallygood break, yeah so you have to
(25:17):
do the frozen sing-along butthat's okay I don't mind singing
a lot of frozen, so good yeahand um.
The rumor is that while they'reclosing it, they are trying to
find a way to put it somewhereelse, because they do know that
it's a fan favorite and PizzaRizzo is closing it's rat pizza.
Caitlin K (25:36):
What does he say in that movie?
It's like my mom told me neverto eat stinging food.
Yeah, like what, like what.
Jenny GK (25:44):
Okay, all right.
So, gem of the week, abigail istrying to bake something and,
um, all of the measurements arein um, large quantities for like
.
It's like a legit baker'srecipe.
Okay, right.
So everything is measured in umweight, yes, or volume instead
(26:08):
of like item.
So, instead of like a cup offlour, you need 300 grams of
flour, whatever.
Well, we have a food scale, soit's fine.
But the eggs are measured 800milliliters of eggs, oh gosh,
it's like I don't even know.
Caitlin K (26:24):
Right, just put the thing on the scale and start
counting.
Jenny GK (26:29):
We have to like measure the volume of an egg.
Yeah Well, I didn't do thatBecause that would have been
smart.
So instead I start Googling howmany eggs in 800 milliliters.
I'm like someone somewhere gota flag that someone Googled this
.
Caitlin K (26:45):
Yeah, and what's the answer?
Do you know?
Jenny GK (26:48):
It's between 14 and 17 .
That's a lot of eggs and it's alot of eggs, but it's making a
mousse okay, but that's a lot ofmousse too it's a filling oh,
okay understood yeah, she'smaking a yule log.
Nice, I love it yeah, I waslike uh, excuse me, what 800
milliliters of?
(27:08):
Who is measuring their eggs inmilliliters?
I am measuring them in each.
Caitlin K (27:12):
Right or dozen.
Jenny GK (27:13):
Do you need?
Caitlin K (27:14):
to go get a carton, like just go get one of those
like liquid eggs cartons.
Ugh, gross, okay, mine is.
Instinctively, when someoneputs their finger in my face, I
try to bite it.
It's just a thing.
Jenny GK (27:29):
It's like if you put your hand over my mouth to make
me stop talking, I'm going tolick you.
Caitlin K (27:33):
I'm going to lick it, right.
So Sam's thing is to put hisfinger near my mouth and watch
me try to bite it.
And he says the other day hesays to my father-in-law, cappy,
my mom bites, and he, it's hislike.
His thing is to like, tellpeople that I bite like a dog,
like careful, she bites, right.
So he's like that's a goodthing for people to know about
(27:54):
you.
It is, I agree.
And then at one point he didstick his finger in my mouth.
I did bite it.
And then he goes stop it, letgo of me.
I'm not a bagel.
It made me laugh like I, so Iinstinctively let go.
Otherwise I would have held onto that finger.
But I was like I don't know,that's your go-to Bagel, like
what?
That's the thing I bite themost.
(28:14):
Apparently I do like bagels,but still they're chewy.
He doesn't eat bagels.
Where would that come from?
I'm not a bagel.
Ok, so two things we learnedthere.
Jenny GK (28:32):
One he thinks I eat them a lot, and two I bite, so
don't stick your finger in myface.
Caitlin K (28:36):
Fyi, I think you need a shirt that just says I bite.
I probably do.
I probably do need that shirt Ithink that's a good one.
Speaking of don't bite people,yeah, yeah, make good choices.
Don't don't take your finger inmy face, uh, and no slug
fingers.
Yeah, or we'll bite.
(28:56):
Or barbs or no slug fingers,yeah, I don't bite.
Slug fingers gross.
Okay, bye.
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