Tape 42 - "Jah Will Provide" - How To Make A Mixtape

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How many? Now the making of a good
compilation tape is a very. Subtle.
Art many do's and don'ts. First of all, you're using
someone else's poetry to. Express how you feel.
This is a delicate thing. You got to kick it off with a
killer grab attention. Then you got to take it up

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enough. I don't want to know you.
So then you got to cool it off anotch.
There are a lot of rules. Oh, shit.
I already fucked that up. Do you have the sound on you?
Are you guys are on Teams now? Yeah, you guys operate on
Microsoft Teams. That fucking chime of e-mail, I
feel like haunts my dreams. You know the e-mail chime.

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Yeah, how often do you, do you ever just change your sounds on
your phone because you get scarred by the current ones?
You know, that's a great question.
I don't. I don't ever have sound on ever.
I rarely do and. Then like if like you
accidentally turn it off a silent and then I hear my phone
ring I'm like who the fuck is the asshole with the sound on

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And I was like oh God it's me. Yeah, I rarely have my sound on
either unless I'm actively like I need to be able to hear, you
know some alert and I'm not paying attention.
But there, there was a while there where I would have to
change my ringtone every six months or so because I just
after a while it, it just becomes negative association.

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You know what I mean? With like, I get it, your phone
going off. It's kind of like that with the
e-mail sound, and I've never tried to.
Change that with the e-mail sound right now.
Yeah, for sure. Yeah, not a not a fan.
What's new buddy? What's new in life?
Did you do anything cool this weekend?
Like we just recorded, but so wedid, you know, went to went with
some friends to a thrift Expo. I was just showing you the sweet

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meatloaf shirt. That's a great fucking shirt.
Yeah, I. Was pretty stoked on that.
I got, AI got. That's a great shirt.
Sweet Indy 519 Ninety Indy 500 Bart Simpson shirt.
I was at the racetrack for the Indy 500 this weekend.
Were you? Yeah.
You know, I grew up right by, that's where I grew up, like 10

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minutes from there. Went down to visit Doctor PCF
this weekend and hang out with the old man for celebrating some
holidays that we missed and theyjust opened a massive new museum
at the Indy 500. Yeah, they, which is.
In the middle of the infield, the museum, which is so cool.
Yeah, I like, I guess I didn't put into perspective how big the
track was until I was at a museum and gift store that was

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in the middle of the track. It's 2 miles.
It's massive. It's two mile track.
Yeah, it's 250 laps. Two Mile track?
Yeah, it's insane. That's cool.
The museum used to be on the outside of the stadium, so
they've moved it to the infield.Yeah, Doctor, PCF was saying
like it was like a big undertaking and it they just
redid it. It was fucking really cool.
It was really, really cool. Even if you're not in like race

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cars, like the same thing with the Harley Museum, like even if
you're not into Harley's, even if you're not in the race cars,
like just to see like all the history of like the crazy old
cars and shit like that. That was very, very cool.
Yeah, there's a Corvette Museum in northern Indiana.
Yeah, that's the one that got hit by the fucking sinkhole and
they just put a piece of glass over it.
Now you can walk over the ones that fell in the sinkhole.
That's insane. Have you been to that?

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Was a big deal because that was like, no, but like I remember
when that happened, like it was millions of dollars of rare
corvettes fell into the sinkhole.
I don't know, I just remembered this.
There's also a James Dean Museumin northern Indiana.
Like where is that New Albany maybe, Or where's where?
It's wherever he's from, I think.
I guess he's from. Wait, is there a different?
Fairmont, Indiana. James.
Corbett Museum than the one which one had the hole.

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The National Corvette Museum is in Bowling Green, KY, not in.
I don't think it was the National Corvette Museum, it was
a Corvette Museum. Just some dudes garage.
It's got like 3 corvettes that you got lured into.
Probably, yeah. Dude, I don't even see anything
coming up now that I look. Look for that.
Yeah. Wild.

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Yeah. So.
So I did that. What about you?
What'd you do this weekend? Drove.
To Indiana. I just fucking told you that.
Yeah. Went to Indiana early Saturday
morning, worked all weekend week, and then went to Indiana
early Saturday morning and then went to the court, went to the
Indie Museum Museum, which was so cool.
That was really cool. And then not a whole lot else

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went and running at a track. You should have met up with
Lance Gums good old buddy. You should.
Have met up with Lance gums. You're absolutely right.
He's real far out of Indy thoughisn't he?
Plus he's such a cool car guy now.
No, he lives right by where I grew up.
No shit. Yeah.
So. My bad not sending an old Lance
Gum's message. Same side, same side of Indy as

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the Speedway is on. Did you guys go to high school
together? We should have gone to high
school together, no? I think he's from Northern I, I
don't know where he's from, but all right, man.
Wait, hold on. Guess what?
I did well yesterday when I got home.
You ever been to New Orleans? You ever been to Nollans?
I have been to knowledge. You partake in pralines when you
were there. I did, and they're delicious.

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I'm not even a big like caramel guy, but there's something about
dude. Delightful.
I taught myself how to make them.
Did you? Yeah.
And do you? Have fun cracking it.
Did you crack it with something?No.
So here's the deal. OK, so I follow this dude on
Instagram. He's very, very fun.
His name is, I can't remember, but I'm going to look him up,
fill the space with time while Ilook up who he is because I want

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to be able to give him credit where credit is due because he's
a lot of fun. His name is Dylan.
Dylan Hollis and he started his Instagram career or TikTok I'm
not sure which one as it was called baking of yesteryear and
he would find like 1940s fiftiescookbook.
I've seen this guy, tall hair, very excitable.

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A lot of this. Yeah.
A. Lot of razzle dazzle in his
delivery. He the baking of yesteryear was
always a riot. And now he's doing baking around
the US and he did pralines from New Orleans and I was like, I'll
give those a shot. I'll give them a whirl.
First batch, disaster. Second batch B plus.
Super good so. Batch #3 we're going for a solid

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A, Yep. Yeah, yeah, just like little
gimmick stickers. B Plus.
Yep, sometimes good. Sometimes you mean.
He would do like water pie and stuff like that on the.
Like like all of the all of the craziest recipes.
Mashed potato desserts and yeah,weird shit like like all the
depression era food, Totally that stuff.
And what's funny is that he always gives an honest

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revaluation at the end of like, you know, this is what worked
and this is what didn't. It's a lot of fun.
Good dude, good dude to check out.
All right. I think it's a new segment now.
I have more music news. Fuck yeah.
Do you have the sound ready? Sounds I didn't I I added it in.
You haven't even heard what it sounds like yet because I
haven't put out the new episode.You do or do not have the sound
ready. For this, no I don't.

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OK, new music news. All right, I'm going to bucket
the first 3 on here into one thing.
New albums coming from these thefollowing groups.
I want to know who you're most excited about.
Well, there was one random one that just kind of popped up out

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of nowhere, and I'm sure it's inthe list.
So go for it. Well, these are announced.
These haven't come out yet, so something happened today that I
didn't know of, but Wet Leg, Frank Ocean, and Street Light
Manifesto have all announced newalbums or teased new albums
coming out. I'm not familiar with wet leg.
OK, quite good. For Street Light Manifesto.
Yeah, I knew you would be. Frank Ocean?

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You like Frank Ocean? Hit or miss, man.
It's either gonna be great or bad.
People been waiting for a long time for new Frank Ocean though.
It's been a while. I feel like there's been too
much time, makes me nervous. Too much time, it scares you.
Well, there's a lot of time thattransitions to another piece of
news. Bona Ver, a new album came out
like 2 days ago. That was a long time, too.
That was a long time. But you have a feeling to it.

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No, but like with Bonaver, you know exactly what you're going
to get. You know what it probably sounds
like. Sounds like bonaver.
Sounds like bonaver, but with Frank Ocean you might get
something totally different, youknow?
Yeah, that's fair. I forget what the new.
Frank Ocean's not a wheelhouse performer.
Sable Fable is the new name of the new Bonaver record.
OK, what do you got next? Well, my favorite little piece

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of music news that I feel like everybody's seen by now but Katy
Perry went to space. Nobody gives a shit about.
Also, how did you just? She went to space.
How did you glaze over Newmar's Volta album?
Oh, sorry, that that's not new news to me.
I I've been trying to look at the new news.
So yeah, throw that in there. Are you excited about that?
Newmar's Volt. What do you mean?
It's not new news? It came out the 11th.

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It's three days ago, but. OK, so they've only been playing
new songs on their tour. They're opening for the Deftones
right now at tour and so all thechatter is like they're only
playing stuff that nobody knows.So there's a new album coming
out. So I guess I just didn't because
I kind of just figured that was happening are.
People frustrated playing new shit.
It's I think so, although they've got a lot, their fans
seem to be very like super fanish, you know, Yeah.

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I feel like they're, I feel like, I feel like the people
that are Mars Volta superfans are weirder than the Coheed
superfans. Yeah, well, for sure.
Yeah. Well, there's some weird Coheed
superfans out there. Well.
The weird Coheed superfans are just nerds, like they play with
one hammer, Magic the gathering and shit like that.
Whereas like the weird Mars Volta fans fuck around crystals

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and horoscopes and shit. I haven't watched it yet but
there's a documentary on Omar and what's the other dude?
It's like the 2 Mars Volta guys.The.
Other guy. The other guy, but it's all
about how the one was like a Scientologist and got out of it
because Cedric's the other one, I don't remember which is which,
but Omar and Cedric and like oneof them got into Scientology and

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the other one helped their friendship.
Friendship essentially like saved him or something.
It's like very Doug. Doug's been trying to get me to
watch it. He's a he's a Mars Volta fan and
it does sound really interestingand good.
But yes, so news marvel Mars Volta album.
You just glossed over Katy Perrygoing to space, though.
Man, I I also don't care about Katy Perry, but she went to

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space. Did you hear?
Like. Her and GAIL from her and
Oprah's friend. Yeah.
Did you hear like the entirety of the time the entire flight
took 10 minutes? Yeah, I was like 10 or 11
minutes and then she kissed the ground.
When she got off was the most cringey, stupid thing.
So here's what's really bananas like when you push it into
perspective, OK? And this kind of this kind of

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shit blows my mind. OK, so I heard it on NPR
something today. So they flew 62 miles up into
space, more or less. So from the surface of the earth
to space is 62 miles. How many miles away from me are
you right now? A few. 100 than that.
Way more than that. Which when you put that into

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perspective, space is too close.That's that space is too close,
man. I don't want to be that close to
space. Yes, I guess space is.
I'm 800 miles in. Chicago, you're 800 miles away
from me right now. Yeah. 800, I mean, think about
that, put that into perspective.You're in a 62 miles is an hour

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away. Like when was the last time you
drove 62 miles? I drove 200 miles to Indiana.
Oh dude, that's too big. OK, the last thing about that
though, is they said that when the zero gravity was done and
they got back in their seats to like make the descent or
whatever, that Katy Perry started singing What a Wonderful

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World on the way down and can. We move on from this segment.
Dude, I find it so funny. I don't know why I find it so
funny. There's a great interview with
her before she went just. Yeah, it's she's like, I'm
excited to learn about the math and about the STEM and about the
science of it all. And it's just I'm sorry.

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It's just I kind of like making fun of Katy Perry.
All right, I got one more. All right.
And this is this is apropos because you already kind of
mentioned them. April 13th is has been declared
Coeden Cambria Day in Nyack, NY.OK.
They got the key to the city, they play the show.
I guess they're from there. I didn't even look it up to

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figure out why. I'm assuming they're from there.
They put out a new album. You're from Nyack Code and
Cambria Day. How do you celebrate?
So how do you how? That was my question.
How do you celebrate Code and Cambria Day?
I would think that you would listen to the songs since or
listen to the albums in sequential order, not release
date. Order.
OK, that's got to be part of it,but that's not all you're going
to do to sell it. What do you what kind of foods

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you eating on code? Space ice cream.
Space ice cream. Space.
Yeah, they talk about space A lot.
Their new album came out March 14th.
I have listened. It's great.
You know what, it's good. It's exactly like I don't hate a
Coheed And Cambria album. You know exactly what you're

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going to get and that's fine. That's fine.
That's good. That's good enough for me.
I, I have, they're one of those bands, like a lot of bands you
know, you, that you listen to inyour kind of core music days
that I just have 0 interest in their new stuff.
That doesn't mean I'm not happy.They're making music good for
them and I'm glad that the Superfans have something new to
listen to and that's awesome. I just, I don't need, I don't

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personally need more Coheed. I've got my few albums that I
find fantastic, you know? Coheed first album came out in
2002. Man the second stage Term by
Blame, came out in 2002. That is Senior High School nuts.
I remember it, remember it coming out.
It's a great album. They were originally.
Called Shibuti and he says it inthat one song, Booty.
I can't get that high. I can't get as high.

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Mars Mars Volta 555,000 monthly listeners.
That seems low. Coheed and Cranbria 1.6 million.
That seems really high. Number one listening city for
Coheed And Cambria. What do you think of this?
Nyack, NY. Chicago, IL.
And it's mostly Don. It's mostly me.
All right, man, you want to do this episode?

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Wait, you got a you got a boozy drink?
Just wine. Just some red wine.
Little red wine. Long day, it's Monday.
Long day, little red wine a. Lot of phone calls today.
Oh dude, these headphones haven't really come out of my
ear, although I'm losing my sense of equilibrium.
Yeah, tough one. Yeah, this was the easiest time
I've ever had picking songs. This is really hard for.

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Me, I would say a long. Time.
It took me a really long time and I'm completely out of my
depth on this one. We'll talk about why.
OK, let's get the guest in here.Let's do it.
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Oh, here we go. All right, so Don, in the past

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we've said, hey, listeners, if you want to be in the pod, just
let us know. Give us a theme.
Let us know and. Here we are.
We've got Emily do she comes up to me and she says, hey,
Roderick, when you're going to let me on the podcast, I want to
talk about I'm going to I won't tease the topic yet.
I'll let you say it, Emily, but I want to talk about this topic.

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You need to have me on and look at this now.
You're on. This is proof.
We're men of our word. Emily.
Welcome to the pod. Thank you.
I'm so so to be here, man. If there nothing if for nothing
more, it's going to be exciting for me for when you do things
well to say those are Emily duesand when you do things bad Emily

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don't. I was hoping that you were going
to bring it up because if you didn't, I feel like it's not OK
for me to start it, but if somebody else does, we can
definitely. What's so funny about that is
that the first time I ever went to a fondue restaurant, like the
the waitress came over and she was like giving us the whole
spiel of like, you know, you want to make sure you cook your

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meat or whatever, blah, blah, blah, here's the grill,
whatever. And then she's like, oh, make
sure you don't do this, blah, blah.
And I'm like, oh, are those the fond donts?
And she didn't even crack a smile.
So I don't know if it's that she's heard the joke so many
times or no. It just didn't.
Just right over her head. Right over.
Right over. I think that was when I said
those the fun don'ts. I thought it was the funniest

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thing I ever said. Pretty great.
It's a great dad joke. I just want to see you getting
fondued. That sounds like a good time.
I want to eat fondue with you, Don.
Do you bring it home with your beard?
Have a little drizzle going on. In there for sure.
Were you in a melting pot? I was in a melting pot.
It was a chain. Oh, yeah.

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Yeah. All right.
Cool. It's fantastic, it's good.
Looking at our list of stops in June.
Yeah, there we go. All right, let's just get into
the theme here. Emily, what did you come into me
and say? Hey, Rod, you've got to let me
do this theme? I mean, you already know we got
to bring in the good vibes. We got reggae.
We're talking all things old to new.

(18:02):
What's poppin Bom BOM. I believe you specifically were
like, hey, can I come on around 4:20?
Yeah. Can we do reggae fucking?
Stony baloney over. Here we're at with this.
But yeah, I think it's very fitting that regularly we got
420 coming up, we got to celebrate the holiday and what
better way to do that, bringing in the good vibes.

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Well, you better believe we're recording this today so that I
can make sure it comes out on 4/20.
I. Mean.
You are my favorite part of a 420 episode is that I am covered
in straight edge tattoos. I have never, I have never
partaken in fucking in any 420 celebrations.

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But let me tell you something. I had a way easier time picking
my reggae songs than Roderick did.
Yeah, OK. I knew you were going to match
my energy on. The reggae I'm going to.
I support the lifestyle without partaking.
I feel like that's for a lot of cultures and all things
considered, but. I had a hard time with this and

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and in the end I'm happy we wentthrough it because if I had to
do a lot of research here, so I don't sound like a complete
idiot and there were certain things I already knew, some
things I learned. And you know what, at the end of
the day, I might not listen to alot of like right down the
middle reggae, but there's a lotof reggae subgenres that I
actually am a big fan of and actually listen to quite a bit.

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And so I'm not going to stray too much off the theme here, but
you know, I. Was surprised in my research how
many police songs came up as reggae songs.
Yeah, I. Don't know they're not, I mean
influenced. I feel like even picking these
songs, it's like there's so manyartists that do reggae music,
but they are not reggae artists.And that's where it was kind of

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tough. Like how do we highlight the the
right people but also bring the right vibe?
But I think I got a few. I mean, up until like my last
pick, I kind of just went hissedlike straight up like
chronological history lesson. But I learned researching this,
frankly, because I I, I don't have much of a foothold in here.
Like Don, you've established. That you're a big, you're a big

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reggae fan. That's the well established on
this podcast. No, no other.
There's no other genre of music that I feel like you could, if
you try to be in a bad mood, listen to reggae.
It's a it's a big undertaking because you can't be in a bad
mood listening to reggae. Yes, that's what I'm saying.
Anytime you need to to bump the jams.

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I know Cody's been on here. You guys talked about the
moseying around like if you needsomething to lose the spirits,
maybe, you know, partake in a holiday or whatever you're into
and they'll be in a big no. I promise, you know, she's not,
not wrong about the vibe. I it's funny because I after the

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last episode dawn, I was talkingto, I was actually talking to
Carolina, but we were talking about the the recording and I
was like, you know what? I because because jam bands came
up like, you know what, I realized that if like, if
there's toes out, like I'm out, I'm not for me.
But you know what? Now I have to make exceptions
because you talked about puttingthe flip flops on, but that's

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because this is island music. Beaches are different.
Beaches are different. You know what I mean?
You can have your toes out on the beach, but if I'm if I'm
like at a music venue and your toes are out.
You're not interested. I don't know.
I'm not. That's not.
You're not going hard enough because you know that you're
going to get your feet stepped on.
That's. That's that's exactly it.

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That's exactly it. You're not going hard enough.
You get your feet stuffed on. I'm not going hard, yeah.
Yeah, that's exactly. So, all right, but just just
know that I don't know what the hell I'm talking about on this
episode, Don, and how you felt on Backpack wrapped on Now I
know how you feel going into this because I have very little
confidence in my ability to speak to any of this stuff.

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I'm commonly you're going to do great.
Well, I appreciate that. I did do some we're.
Going to put some people on who have never heard of it and
they're going to be like, Dang Rod, listen to reggae.
I got to check it out now. Here we go.
That makes me sound like. I can't wait to see the
perspective you didn't. Take that makes me sound like my
taste, like I'm a taste maker orsomething.
I am not a taste maker. You're a taste maker, don't

(22:22):
discredit yourself. But my recently played on
Spotify is real weird right now.Yeah.
After the last two episodes or just this one?
Yeah, all of it. Yeah, well, the last two
episodes combined are some weirdstuff.
Emily, you don't even know. The last episode hasn't come out
yet, but it's going. To you could tell me.
By the time this comes out it will have already been out.
So it was essentially good songsby bad bands.

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Yeah, good theme though. It happens to the rest, you
know, We all have our moments. Yeah, even if you're a terrible
band, do you have your moment and you maybe put it out a good
song, you know? Yeah, absolutely excited to hear
it. Emily, do you know the rules?
I think, I believe so. I got to have my 4 songs.
I got to make sure we start off with a banger, make sure the

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other two are good. We give some context and we got
to wrap it up. We got to make sure that we
leave on a good note. Wanting them to explore more
reggae because they might be like broad and not have a broad
spectrum of feel good music. But we're about to change that
for them. I mean you got.
You got most? Yeah, absolutely.
Got most. Not.
It's not the rule, it's not the rules, but I'll take that over

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the rules any day. I'd rather have heavily do
impromptu rule reading than listen to Rod rattle him off all
of the time. But I can't repeat a song that's
ever been mentioned, and not onethat you've said on this
podcast. The ever been mentioned thing is
like you. Can, but then I'll make fun of
you if you pick the same song twice.

(23:55):
Yes, well. For two different mixtape.
As if there's not enough songs and you didn't realize that you
picked your own song twice. OK, that would be embarrassing.
Yeah. It would be embarrassing,
wouldn't it? It's really more for me and Don.
I can't expect a guest to know every.
I don't even know every song hasbeen picked on here.
How the hell is Emily supposed to know all the songs?
All I'm going to say is I know that there was one song that I

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did not choose because you've already made an awesome
reference to it in a past podcast.
Because you know, I'll be following along.
I'm trying to make some new mixtapes in my life.
So smart. I got you.
Well, it would be embarrassing if you picked Jack and Diane and
you put it on 2 separate mixtapes.
That would be embarrassing, wouldn't it?

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You know, looking at looking at the list though, Don, we've had
three reggae songs we have in. Two of which are some black
songs. Two of which.
Are somebody Sister Nancy? Was one of them mentioned on the
cool shit? I didn't I I put that as
dancehall and you're right, that's the subject.
So 4 songs and two. We I had two and you had two.
So I guess I have picked some reggae.

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On here. Yeah, that makes me feel a
little bit better. I forgot I picked I picked
Sister Nancy. That's how Songs about.
By far my favorite podcast because I think I already told
you this Rod, but fuck with me and get get a bag is such a vibe
and I'll be bumping that now like.
You did tell me that. I was, I forgot you for a

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minute. I was, I'm not gonna lie, I was
like, that's so silly. And now I'm like, you guys ready
to turn up the volume? And then I get the song on and
we pop off and we make some money and that's.
Right. It's a fucking hype song.
Tell me it's not a hype song. You know, we're all we're all in
the retail realm, you know, let's get a bag, get a bag.
Come on, let's do this. All right, yes, so the the one

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the one rule that we didn't really specifically say is you
can't have a repeat artist. So I hope you do have a backup
Emily just on on one mixtape. So forget.
Like if you wanted to pick Sister Nancy, technically you
could, although the fact that you already know that was
picked, you probably shouldn't, but.
There are more artists. So I have one on here that I'm a
little worried about. Actually I have two on here that

(26:08):
I'm worried about but. I mean, I got plenty.
If you need some backup, I got you.
I got some. Backups.
So I appreciate that Emily, you can loan me a backup if need be.
You will, I appreciate that. Well, do you want to go first,
second or third? Emily I.
Mean I could pop off. I'm down.
Let's use it you. Want to kick things off?

(26:28):
Then that's going to go. It's going to go Emily, Dawn me
all right. It dawned all right, Emily, but
it's time to go. All right.
Cool. First pick.
First pick. I'm going to go Exodus, but not
by Bob Marley. I feel like that one is an
amazing song, but Exodus by SkipMarley.

(26:55):
Exodus. Before you touch me, let me tell
you this from the One Love deluxe version, which is the Bob
Marley movie that just came out I think like 2 years ago, maybe

(27:16):
a year ago. It was so good.
The whole album is honestly fired.
They have people like Leon Bridges and Jesse Ryan is all
doing like different remakes of Bob Marley songs.
But yeah, Exodus pops off so hard and this one gets me going
so. I wonder how much of what we're
going to talk about has roots inthe Marley family, because that

(27:40):
family is so expansive. And they're, they have their
hands and everything. I mean, even in the movie, Ziggy
Marley, Zelda or Zadela and RitaMarley, all of those people that
were part of his family were helping with the movie.
Like they, they do all the things.

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It's awesome. Yeah, they really do do all the
things. Who is Skip Marley?
How is How is how are they related to Bob Marley?
Do you? I believe?
That's his son, I can verify that.
Though he has a crap ton of kids, I don't know how many, but
I know he has a ton of children.He was feeling the good vibes,
you know? He was feeling the good vibes.
As you know, you can't fault them for it.

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I don't know why I know this. But.
Just random Bob Marley grandson.OK, Random Bob Marley fact.
Did you guys know he lived in Wilmington, DE for a while?
Now why would you know that? 'Cause if you go to Wilmington,
DE, there's signs about Bob Marley there, 'cause there's
nothing else going on there. So they're like, hey, everybody,
Bob Marley lived here for a while.
He worked at like a DuPont factory there what in the 60s?

(28:46):
Yeah, huh. Weird.
I just, I just googled it just to make sure this wasn't one of
those Glenn Miller situations again, where like, I knew half
the information was talking out my ass for the other half.
Done. And yeah, it's Bob Marley.
Lived in Wilmington, DE during the 1960s and 1970s at 2311
Tatnall St. with his mother. During that time he worked
various jobs, including a DuPontfactory of Chrysler factory.

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His first. One of his sons, Steven, was
born in Wilmington in 1972. Boom.
One wife, 12 kids. Rita was his wife and then died
in 1980, but then has I can't I can't even imagine how many
grandchildren's grandchildren's.Yeah, we'll go with
grandchildren's that's and Emilydo how many grandchildren's he

(29:32):
has from there. What think Google AI knows how
many? I think Google AI.
Knows kids does. Children's.
Grandchildren's. Marley has how?
Many grandchildren's Does Bob Marley have 36 when he died.
So sad. Yeah, it says at least 17
grandchildren. That's all it says.
One of whom it says over over 12.

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One of whom is Skip and Skip's version of Exodus.
It's fucking awesome. It's the jam.
I haven't seen this movie. Oh my gosh, it was beautiful.
I cried happy tears, sad tears, and unapologetically in the
movie theater with my popcorn, my big eyes see and my feet
propped up because I have my socks on.

(30:16):
I always bring cozy socks. Do you guys have like your your
things when you go to the movie theater?
You didn't get the toes off. Do you go wait?
Hold on a second, Hold on a second, hold on.
Do you go shoes off in the theater, Emily?
OK, just depressed. I put on a very clean, or I
bring with me like a clean pair of fuzzy socks and I'll slip off

(30:37):
my shoes, put the fuzzy socks on, kick them up.
But yeah, yeah, this. Sounds like our first Emily
Don't of the episode. Shoes choosing to meet at movie
theater are kind of a necessity.Who wants to put their feet down
on a movie theater floor? Sticky, sticky.
Floor I'm on the seas like I just prop them up.
I I always go like when the theater is not packed, I just

(31:01):
prop them up. Enjoy myself and my big popcorn.
You a solo movie. You a solo movie viewer?
Oh, for sure. Like if I have a hard day at
work and I'm in the mall and it has a movie theater, I'm like,
yeah, time to popcorn with the hella butter.
That's. A protip right there.
Yeah, that's a pro tip. Like long day, you got no plans
that night, you know, so good. Just hit that AMC or that Regal

(31:23):
or whatever it is, yes. If you haven't done movie solo,
if anybody in the listening audience hasn't done solo
movies, I'm going to suggest that you try and go do it ASAP.
Have have either of you ever been the only person in the
theater before? Fuck yeah.
I don't think I've ever been a solo.
That's a hell of an experience, isn't it, Emily?
That that's kind of cool. It's I liked it.

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I thought it was cool. I was like, is it felt like I
had a theater in my house or something.
And then I don't feel bad that my feet are up with my socks on
on the chair in front of me. Like I can sprawl out.
I can open my bag of candy and not be worried that people are
going to hear it. Like I'm just and apologetically
ripping that stuff. Donna, I'll say, I'll give her a

(32:07):
pat. I'll say that's an Emily do.
If you're the only person in thetheater, you're allowed to take.
Her shoes are off. I went and saw, I'll go quickly
and then we'll go to the next song.
I went and saw End Game by myself because it was like right
when it came out. And so tickets were hard to get.
And it was. And I'm like, I'm not, I'm not
going to wait for anyone to go see End Game.
I want to go see this so bad. And I sat in like, and you know,

(32:28):
like you can sometimes get your hands on the handicap seats if
they're not sold like before themovie starts.
So usually it's like 2 seats in a space and then two seats in a
space. So I got 1.
And I was like thrilled to even have got in to go see End Game.
And like me and the person sitting next to me by the end of
the movie were like crying together.
It was an emotional moment. Going to see end game together,

(32:51):
you know, the fucking, the the portals open that everybody
comes out to try and save everybody.
Yeah, it was an emotional moment, but it was great.
All right. OK, so Skip Marley, it's my
turn. Yeah, I know.
OK, you guys familiar with InnerCircle?
Nope. OK, easy.
The easy inner circle song is Bad Boys.
That's the easy one, right? But I'm not going bad boys.

(33:12):
Instead, I'm going sweat parentheses.

(33:42):
Oh, can you give us? I won't sing it, but Ron will
definitely play a portion of it and you'll recognize it the
second you hear it. And.
Oh yeah, I know the song I even if.
I had to guess this might have been.
Like, thank you. Roderick, you're welcome.
This was probably like the firstmainstream reggae that I had

(34:03):
probably heard. It was probably around the time
of UB40 Red wine, if I can't remember.
I know this song was 1992, right?
So and it was like, I mean, it'swildly inappropriate if you guys
haven't had a chance to like payattention to the lyrics, but it
it did like break into mainstream radio and it made its
way up the charts a little bit. And it was kind of the song that

(34:26):
got inner circle a little bit oftraction before the bad boys
song. So like everybody knew this song
a little bit. And then the Bad Boys song came
out and it was like. Oh shit, by bad boys you mean
like theme to cops? Right.
Exactly. Yep, and also the movie.
Yeah. And the movie, yeah, Bad boys.
Yeah, yeah, not cops the movie, but.

(34:47):
Not Cops the movie, Bad Boys themovie, yeah, for sure.
But I mean, from there everybodyknows the bad boys song.
But before the bad boys song wasSweat and Sweat is fantastic.
I just wrote La La La La la. That's the name of the song.
It's called Sweat a La La La La song four loss.

(35:10):
Did you get the Did you get the right amount of loss rod?
I put a La La La La. I put 4.
How many are there? Four.
That's the right amount. Yeah, that's right amount.
Oh hell yeah, I just. Good job.
Also Grammy award-winning. They had a Grammy for best
reggae album that had the Bad boy song on it.
This feels like this was in a movie too though.
This had to have been in a movie.

(35:32):
Right. This song.
Oh, for sure. Yeah.
I mean, any 1994 movie for sure.And then there's also a really
funny skit, Jimmy Fallon. Do you guys ever watch or listen
to the Ragtime Gals? Isn't what the Ragtime Gals are.
I don't, I don't love Jimmy Fallon.
Jimmy Fallon's fine. He's whatever.
He's fine, OK. But he had a a segment on his

(35:56):
show for a while where he formeda barbershop quartet called the
Ragtime Gals and they would perform with famous, like famous
singers. And they did like this was the
song that started it. And then like he did sexy back
with Justin Timberlake and he was one of the ragtime gals.
And then they did Roxanne with Sting and he was one of the
ragtime gals. But if you get a chance, go down

(36:18):
the ragtime gals rabbit hole because it's a a riot.
Oh man, do you feel that over your head, Rod?
I feel so over my head. All right, here's what I'm going
to. Here's what I'm going to do for
this episode. I'm going to walk through my
research a little bit, just as much for the audience As for me,
because I feel like a lot of theaudience is going to feel out of
their depth and I want to take them on this journey.

(36:39):
But I will but also this is going to be a great fucking mix
tape as soon as it breaks 79° wherever you live, them windows
better go down and that volume better go up on this mixtape and
I can't wait to see what you name it, Rod all.
Right. Well, I'm going to, I'm going to
try to take this quick because Idon't want this to feel like
history class, but here's what Igathered.

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So the first original music on Jamaica was called Mento, and it
was like African folk music mixed with European music.
All right, So that's first thingbecause it's like, you know,
it's bad times. It's slaves and slave owners.
Demento, right? It's what it's called.
Times. Way to undersell that one,
right? It's not good time, it's bad.

(37:21):
So then so that's that's that's existing for like hundreds of
years and then calypso starts tosneak in.
And so you get mento, which is folk music.
And my understanding is that kind of had like an up like an
upbeat thing going on, right. So you see where this is going.
Then you add in like the island vibes of calypso and then you'd
stir in a little American R&B, which is started to get to

(37:42):
Jamaica and that kicks out ska. So ska predates reggae, which is
the only thing I knew about reggae.
That's something I didn't know. So you got ska like early.
Early ska is kind of crazy, Don,if you've listen to it, because
that actually sounds just like later ska, just like no vocals.
There's like hardly any singing in it.
It's just the horns. So you've got like the Skoda

(38:04):
lights and stuff, which is even back then, dude, like one of the
first ever ska bands was alreadyplaying around with their names
in the 1950s. So all right, so you got you got
ska going. Everybody on the island's crazy
about ska. Then people start to actually
get like sound systems, right? Like big speakers and stuff.

(38:25):
And they're, they're setting up,you know, outdoors and doing
like dances and they put them ontrucks and driving around and
people want to dance. So then the music, the tempo
slows down a little bit. And instead of R&B, soul music
starts to hit the island. That's then that's rocksteady.
So then rocksteady comes out. So ska goes into rocksteady.
We haven't hit reggae yet, but it's all kind of reggae.

(38:45):
I'm going to pause there becauseI picked my first song as a
rocksteady song. So the artist is Alton Ellis,
featuring the Flames, who I believe was a sky band, and the
song is called Rocksteady. Better get ready, come to
Rocksteady. You've got to do this to you

(39:08):
then hope you are ready. You've got to do.
It just like I'm. Ready if you don't know.
Which is also a thing that happens I've noticed a lot in
reggae. There's a lot of ska songs that
had the word ska in the title and rocksteady songs that had

(39:30):
the word rocksteady in the titleand reggae songs that had the
word reggae in the title. And this one's just called
Rocksteady. It's called Rocksteady, and
yeah, it's cool. It honestly sounds kind of like
ska, like soul. It sounds like soul music with a
ska beat, but slow, which is exactly what it is.
So you could totally dance to it.
Yeah, you know. Good dancing back.
That's the main thing, you got to be able to.

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Yeah, and Elton Ellis, like I did look him up a little bit.
I don't know a lot about him, but he was kind of known as like
the Jamaican, like father of soul, so to speak, right.
So he was like a soul singer. His nickname was Mr. Soul.
He has. So much swag he.
Does have a hell a lot of swag, yeah.
He's. He's dripping.

(40:11):
He's dripping. But yeah, this, this is like, I
believe this song came out in the 60s.
But yeah, this is like that transition into ska and you can
hear the soul music. It sounds like American Soul, a
little. Bit I think the.
Song came out before that though, but yeah, the the the
Mr. Soul of Jamaica is 1974. It's really hard to.

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So that's another thing I noticed this old stuff, it's
really hard to find what dates they came out through Spotify
because they just, they didn't really put out albums cause from
what I gather they were just recording wherever they could.
So when they would finally get put on an album and put out by a
label, it was often like years and years after that song was
like first done So. But yeah, this sounds dope.

(40:55):
Like, I didn't know about this era of music at all.
This like island soul R&B thing.It's cool.
You just put me on because I haven't.
Heard if this isn't open the windows on a sunny Sunday
morning and just let the let thebreeze in the house then I don't
know what it is. This is great, Rob.
Yeah. Thank you.
I like. It.

(41:15):
Also. This song is.
Like 17,000,000 plays on Spotify, so it's like for sure
it's not nothing, you know? Yeah, I mean, Alton Ellis is
averaging about as many monthly listeners as the Mars Volta is.
Mars, Volta. Yeah, so there's that as well.
And Mars Volta just put a new album out this year this week.
This does. You guys are not wrong.

(41:36):
Like I can't help but sway listening to this like you.
Can't be in a bad mood. It takes over.
Do you want? To take your shoes off and put
on a fuzzy pair of socks. I don't have shoes.
I don't have shoes on. OK.
Just double check. Nice warm socks, but I'm inside
my house. Emily, let's be clear.
Yeah, not not in the movie theater.
We're all indoors right now. No shoes in the house makes

(41:56):
sense. No shoes out at a concert.
Rolling into the movie theater and like they sometimes they
make you open your bag of like, you know, are you bringing
outside snacks to the movie theater?
And Emily do opens her bag and it's just a pair of fuzzy socks
in there and the guy that's checking us like what the fuck?
I'm picturing that scene in HomeAlone where Marv is stepping on
the tar and his socks are comingoff.

(42:17):
That's. What happens when she tries to
leave the movie theater? Yeah, it's just all the sticky
stilled coke. I'll.
Bring a few treats home with me,you know.
You for choice #2 holy shit was that.
Good I. Can't wait to listen to that
again. Did you get all that, Rod?
What son of a bitch Get your head in the game?

(42:39):
I said, Did I get what Emily do?I said Emily, do whatever to you
for song #2 and. It felt.
Good you. Sound like my allergy shot,
lady, when I was a kid, I had toget allergy shots every couple
weeks and she put two shots in my arms and she thought she was
being cute and sweet and I'm like lady, just get this over.
But she'd always go Emily do #1 and #2 and I'm like, OK, let's

(43:03):
go. But anyways.
So all right, what do you? So maybe your name shouldn't
rhyme with so much stuff, you know?
Oh, all right, so my second songis Dust a Sound Boy by Super
Beagle. A lot of people go into feel
good tonight. This song is fun for a couple

(43:43):
reasons. So it does pay tribute to Bom
Bom by Sister Nancy. It has that Bom Bom Bom, but it
also the reason I found it. So I'm not going to get
political. I'm just going to state my case.
But it was a point in time. I do love Kanye music, OK, and I

(44:03):
was going through a period of like, I need to find ways to
listen to this without listeningto it, if you know what I mean.
So I went through this whole I'mgoing to find all the music that
he has ever, you know, sampled and and this was one of those.
So if you listen to the beginning of it, it's the mercy
song when it goes. Well, it is not weeping in the

(44:29):
morning and I'm imagining my sonwithin the champion song.
Yeah, and then it goes into the Bam Bam tribute, but is a bot
for sure. And every time I turn it on with
people who haven't heard it, they think Kanye's playing and
then it's not. And it's pretty dope.

(44:51):
So yeah. Yeah, it's just that whole
intro, the whole that whole opento this song, Yeah.
Ripped off too. Not even really fucked with
just. Isn't.
Isn't it messed up how, like when Kanye was so good, you kind
of just ignored the fact about how that he was now?
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah, Yep. And it's like, I don't know, he

(45:13):
really did sample a lot of really great music and I'm
thankful that I found that musicbecause of it.
So you know you found the winds.You got to you got to dig for
the winds sometimes. Yes.
I found out that in my research here, I found out that the Skoda
lights the, the OG like ska band.

(45:36):
We're the, we're a, we're brought in a studio in the like
early 60s as the backing band for two of the guys that would
eventually be in The Maytals, but they were gospel singers and
they recorded Bom Bom. It's like a Scott so that that's

(46:00):
they originally recorded that song and eventually Sister Nancy
did it as the dancehall version.And then eventually like all
these other groups did it too. Like I've heard that.
Song. All kinds of stuff but that
song. She just came out with music
too. Sister and Nancy just dropped an
album like maybe a month or two ago.
And it's, it's fun, it's a good vibe.
Well, and somebody was was thereon the pot or off the pot.

(46:22):
Somebody was telling me that like there's a big campaign to
get her because she didn't have publishing rights.
To that song. And so there was like a big
campaign to get her paid. And I don't know, I don't
remember the details and I'm notgoing to pause to look it up,
but I think they did her rights and I think she got some back
payments and now has the publishing rights.

(46:43):
To. That.
But she was like, yeah. Wasn't she like 15 when that
came out or something insane like that?
Like she was super young and I don't know what those, you know,
the laws were back then. And I imagine somebody was
taking advantage of her and you know, give like to keeping the
royalties for themselves. But but I do know this song

(47:03):
Emily so. Yes.
Oh yeah, it's a Bob. I love that I feel.
Like this has been sampled by other hip hop artists too.
Like I recognize that beat. Too.
They're so, yeah. I feel like that beat in general
has been used in so many genres.And like, if there's one reggae
song that everyone knows, I feellike it's out for sure.

(47:25):
Yeah, well, luckily there's a website I can go to that tells
that will tell me. Look up features she was. 20
years old when she wrote that song.
Dust the Sound Boy by Super Beagle has been sampled in 42
songs. Oh.
My God. Including Freddie Gibbs, Brother
Ali, Sublime, Jade Dilla, we. Know the sublime one?

(47:47):
Damn, Doing Time by Sublime samples this song that I I hear.
I totally hear that now. Yeah.
Good job, well done. Good job.
Good job. I believe you.
Thank. You.
My second choice I have all of my fucking honorable mentions
are going to be artists I have had previously, but I'm going to

(48:08):
try and do artists that I haven't had on any other songs
up to this point. And so with that being said,
this is probably my most embarrassing.
And that is going to be Dirty Heads Sails to the Wind.
We will find them before, but not is the.

(48:40):
Of the audio storm in the form adjusting your eyes because
we're out of the norm. I'm crushing the lines, but
you've been for one. I love dirty heads.
You know, I like I'm not good. I I don't want to bash dirty
heads because they they do do itpretty good.
Like they do do a pretty good job of like leaning into their
genre and they definitely bring a little bit more of a modern

(49:01):
approach where like there is a bit of rapping.
It's not the best, it's not the worst, but musically, like they
really do kind of get into some of the like the roots of it.
Like they they do bring some like really good, like old
school music style. And this one is a really cool
song, the way that builds and stuff like that.
And like they kind of pull otherelements in as it goes through

(49:22):
the song. And I'm really just trying to
justify this nerdy pick or this kind of dorky pic by giving
Dirty Heads probably more creditthan they deserve.
But I'll be damned if it isn't agreat song.
And I'll be damned if I don't still enjoy Dirty Heads, even as
dorky as they are. No, no, hey, on dirty heads,
dirty heads are awesome. I have seen them live.

(49:45):
I've seen them and they're so fun them and like fortunate
youth and sick figure and soldier like all of those new
reggae like they're so fine. They.
Really are. Those concerts you don't You
don't need to know any of those words to have the best time
ever. Like you just go.
You know what? You know what else you don't
need? You don't need shoes either.

(50:06):
Damn right you're right. That's what Emily do for sure.
I'm looking I'm looking at a photo of these guys and they
look very the. Fucking worst.
They look like they wash their hair and shower and they do not
look for how I expected them to look except for the skin color I
was. I was expecting them to be white
based on your preface. You didn't expect that.

(50:28):
Yeah, for sure. They're, they're just kind of a
good time, man. Like, you know, we talked about
it in some of the SKA episodes where like those dudes do a
really good job of taking themselves seriously but not
being serious at all. And I feel like Dirty Heads kind
of falls into that. Like none of it's too serious,
you know? It's just serious enough and

(50:49):
it's just a damn good time. So I'm gonna say Dirty Heads and
Sails to the Wind is gonna be the song.
Great choice. Never, never heard them in my
life. Yeah.
You're not missing anything, Rob, but I'm excited for you to
listen more. Hey, as somebody who?
2012. Has a, has a has a place inside
of them for 311 I can't really make fun of.
Yeah. Thing like this so.

(51:11):
Yeah, Reno is the biggest fan. I love it.
I went. I went and saw.
I know he is. I once went and saw Three Eleven
with zebra head. The Pride of Omaha.
You guys remember that band? Fuck yeah I remember Zebra head.
Pride of Omaha, yeah. Not not bright eyes, not
cursive, but 311. I always forget they're from
Omaha because it makes no fucking sense.
Dude, there's no fucking. How the hell?

(51:33):
Are they water? It actually makes it.
There's no water. All the water they have, they
have to water the crops. With so no water.
There's not a pool insight. In a weird way it makes them
more credible though, because they had to seek that out and
like be really. Passionate.
About that, you know what I'm saying?
Like if you're from Omaha and you're going to make hip hop

(51:53):
reggae, like you have to love. Like you had to seek that out
and love it. The record stores there don't
even have a reggae section. There's no way.
No way. Like.
Or at least they didn't then. No.
Man. We are over to Rodrick for his
next choice. Yep.
So we had Scott which made way for Rocksteady and then Roxetti

(52:16):
was getting a little too slow for people.
And also they were, they wanted to stop emulating US music like
so the soul aspects started to go away.
They started singing like they actually sing on the island and
they just kind of speed it back up again.
And that's reggae. And so reggae, literally the
word reggae comes from Toots andThe Maytals.
They invented the word reggae. They had a song called Do the

(52:38):
Reggae. This is fucking.
Fantastic. Roderick, you are doing a great
job. Yeah, 1968 do the reggae, which
reggae was spelled different on the single.
Eventually the spelling change. I don't know the etymology of
that. I actually tried to find it and
I can't find it, but literally the Oxford English Dictionary
says that toots in The Maytals invented the word reggae.

(52:59):
I think it comes from raga. I don't know.
I'm not going to pretend to know.
But anyway, the song, I'm not choosing do the reggae as the
song though, because I already picked rocksteady to be the
rocksteady song. So I'm not going to do that
twice, but I'm going to pick a really early Toots in The
Maytals song called Pressure Drop.

(53:40):
And it's, it's a banger. It's a great, I'm, I'm, I'm and
I knew of Toots and the Matals, dude, they're still a band.
They're just called the Matals now, I think.
Or somebody else. Because Toots died in 2020, but
he just died in 2020. And they were still a band from
like 1965 to 2020. They were a band and pressure.
Drops a great fucking song too. Was alive the whole time.

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Frederick Toots, Hibbert. I also think this song is
appropriate because I think you have taken the pressure off
yourself in saying that you're not credible in this.
You know more about actual reggae and how I got here then I
feel like a lot of us do. I see you pop.
Off only because I didn't know anything Emily, and so I had to
take the time to do research. So thank you to the YouTube

(54:24):
video I watched that was the history of reggae.
Thank you with this. Shoots in the mates halls and I
picked dirty heads. You want to talk about
credibility, right? Now hey.
My credibility is right in the fucking gutter.
Not true. We love dirty heads.
I don't have any credibility. On this.
This is just what the but the historians talked about.

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But I did. I do find this really
interesting honestly, and it's crazy how relevant this band
stayed every single decade. They were like a top reggae band
from what I can see. Like they never became like they
never really dipped. They were relevant all the way
through. Toots and the mates halls were
his. Passing.
Yeah, yeah. Like, I don't know how relevant
and like, mainstream. I don't think they had hits, but

(55:08):
I just mean like in the reggae community, they never stopped
being a band and they were putting out records like every
single decade. So which is wild.
But yeah, 1.6 million monthly listeners still like totally.
Millions. That's three times as many as
Marshall. Sure is.

(55:28):
But yeah, there was. The last thing I'll say is cool
because they, if you listen to Ifound, I think it's on Spotify,
but you have to dig through. But there's a there's an album
under Toots and Maytals on Spotify that's just like a
collection of all their old stuff.
And if you listen to it, you canactually hear them transition
from a ska band to a rocksteady band to a reggae band because
all the, I think all that happened in like in like maybe

(55:50):
10 or less years. And so they were already a band.
So you can hear them go from like Scott or rocksteady to
reggae and you're like, you can actually hear the difference
because he sings like sings different and the speeds
different. I don't know, it's kind of cool.
That is cool. All right, I'll take #3. #3.
So I debated on this one a little bit because I I knew what

(56:11):
artist I wanted to pop off on. I'm going kind of Dawn's route
in the new age reggae in this one.
But she's so good and she's a baddie.
OK, so I got for the holiday. Don't take my ganja by Hyree.

(56:46):
There are, I wouldn't say as many females in the reggae
industry. So when there are like, I'm
trying to listen to them and check them out.
But she is a baddie like baddie,and she has some really fun
songs. She has there's a song called
Put It Down by her that it's it's a bop like you are dancing

(57:09):
the there's all sorts of instruments going on.
But she's awesome. And this was perfect for the the
holiday. She just talks about how at the
end of the day you can take everything.
You can have my house, my car, but don't take my ganja like I'm
I'm trying to rock'n'roll. So I picked that.

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I will give a shout out to SugarShack's sessions.
It's a thing on YouTube. They they show a lot of cool
artists and she's been on there a bunch of times.
That's how I found her. And it's definitely a vibe.
So if you're trying to throw something on the Youtubes while
you're cleaning the house, spring cleaning, it's
definitely, definitely a vibe. I'm just listening.

(57:52):
This is such produced reggae. It sounds fucking great, but
like I have never heard this style.
I mean like that's not true. I have heard a lot of like very
well produced reggae, but like this sounds pop production
reggae and it's fucking. Awesome does have kind of a
poppy vibe to it that put it down.

(58:14):
Song is definitely more poppy and why I didn't choose that one
over this one. But yeah, she's dope.
It's really good. Yeah, I'm not, I'm not listening
to any of Hyree, but I'm excitedto go dip my toe in this pool
because she's. Highly recommend.
Yes. You got to watch it on Sugar
Shack sessions though, because it's like a live session where

(58:37):
she's playing and with her band and oh, it's so good.
I like, I like that she's brought horns back into it, like
a lot. Not, not a lot of reggae has
horns in it. I think it's that's sick.
Like, it sounds really cool, really cool.
I'm a sucker for horns. It's all you got to do to make
me happy is throw some horns in your music.

(58:57):
That's great. Good choice, yes.
I'm like that with the bagpipes.I don't know why but I want to
cry and. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
I can't just throw that out. You can't just throw that out.
What do you mean you're like that with bagpipes?
Are you saying that if you just throw bagpipes on something,
you're all about it? Yeah, there's just something
that brings an emotional feeling, like, do you?
Picture Emily, dude. No.

(59:19):
Just getting all emotional to jump around by House of Pain.
I I just really, sometimes I like cry.
Like when I graduated in college, they had bagpipes and
I'm sobbing not because I'm graduating, but because the
bagpipes are playing. They're so beautiful.
I just, it's a vibe. I really do it to you.
She Hyree is Filipino born, raised in Italy, based in

(59:43):
Hawaii. That is the.
Child of the world. Child of the World.
I can't wait to listen to more of this.
This is rad. We should have someone.
Matisyahu too, and slightly stupid.
I was just going to say a suggestion.
Matisyahu to me, I've listened to Matisyahu.
Is that, is that reggae? Is this reggae?
I feel like, I feel like that meme.

(01:00:04):
I feel like the butterfly meme. I'm just like, is this?
Is this reggae? This here.
Is Reggae Came to Wichita, KS one time and it was so random
but so cool out. Man, that was awesome.
Yeah, he came to. He came to my College in
Indiana. Here's.
Here's one of the funniest things that I've ever seen.
Have you ever seen the video of Matisyahu in the coffee shop

(01:00:25):
watching the kid perform one dayon the ukulele?
Except Matisyahu doesn't look like traditional Matisyahu.
Like when he looked very orthodox, and now he looks
totally different. So there's a video on YouTube of
a kid playing one day in a coffee shop in Hawaii.
And Modest is there watching andsinging with him.

(01:00:47):
But the kid doesn't realize it'sModest Yahoo because he does not
look like Modest Yahoo anymore. And so Modest Yahoo says to the
kid, do you know who that is? And the kids like Modest.
And he's like, yeah, it's me. And he's like, oh, really?
And like, doesn't realize it. And so I show this video to like
a friend of a friend and a friend of a friend.
Just like, why does modest Yahoolook look like a WNBA player

(01:01:09):
right now? And I can't see him and not
think about that. And it's so hysterically true
that in that video, he's like wearing like oversized
basketball shorts and slides andhe just looks like a WNBA
player. It is hysterical.
I have to find that that sounds amazing.
Yeah, you can find it. It's fantastic.

(01:01:30):
My turn, My turn. It is your turn.
My turn. I'm going to spend a little bit
of time going on a permanent holiday with none other than
Mike Love. And if you guys haven't, well,
Roderick, we know you haven't. Emily, do have you spent any
time with with Mike Love? I don't think so.
I could take my playlist but notthe top 9 I.

(01:01:51):
Need you guys when we're done togo on.
Dates. Those are some dreads.
He also has a song called Barbershop about how he'll never
cut his hair but Mike love the song Permanent Holiday.

(01:02:32):
He's one of these like looping artists as well as like a
fantastic fucking guitar player.So he loops his shit live as he
plays and like he'll have like apercussionist and him is usually
what his shows consist of. There's not much more than that,
but he does this part in the song where he starts to loop the

(01:02:54):
vocals and he's only saying the syllables of words and then
builds this chorus through the syllables of the words that he's
saying. Manifest words speak.
I first speak. And.

(01:03:19):
It is so fucking impressive and like you can see him like
beating out the rhythm of the song on his guitar so he doesn't
miss the segments of the words that he's trying to say.
It's fantastic. It is absolutely insane.
His whole catalog is pretty awesome in terms of great like
easy to listen to reggae, but this song specifically is such

(01:03:43):
an impressive musical performance that I love me a
little mic love and permanent holiday is the song this.
Feels like like if the word reggae just gets thrown out,
that's what this, you know what I mean?
Like this is like down the middle roots reggae sound to me
just like perfectly. On the middle, roots reggae.
And so he has a Sugar Shack session, like a talk.

(01:04:04):
He does, he pops off. I didn't know who that was.
Yeah, he does have a Sugar Shacksession.
This is off the change I'm seeking and that album covers
getting into Creed territory done.
It is a big creedy. Great call.
Yeah, it does feel a little bit creedy.
I I don't know what the symbol is in the like as far as the sun

(01:04:26):
in the background, but I think there's also paper like origami
birds coming from the tree that turn into.
Real. There's a real bird and some
There's a couple real birds and some origami birds.
But the origami birds are changing into the real birds.
That is the change he is seeking.
This looks, this is a mixture too, and I I am kind of making

(01:04:48):
fun. It's just half, half Creed
album, half a high school juniors art project.
He was like kind of talented. And we'll see if they go
somewhere, but we're not quite sure yet.
They're still developing that one voice, like somebody got the
pastels out in art class and hassome talent, you know?
And there it is. Yep.

(01:05:10):
It is, but at the same time, fantastic song, incredible.
Like musician and like his ability to loop as he's playing.
So it's really, really impressive.
So yeah, dip your toe in the Mike Love pool.
Or don't. All right, Do I keep going down
like the history route or just. Go on this rod my heart keep

(01:05:31):
score I. Just go with my heart on this.
I've really enjoyed the lesson. OK, listen.
To your heart. OK, so then this is the last
part. This is the last part of the the
lesson part. And then my fourth choice is
just going to be a, you know, personal song I actually had
before by a song I actually listened to before this, but OK,
so yeah, reggae, reggae gets like huge.

(01:05:54):
So it there's the whole like England, Jamaica like crossover
that I'm sure you guys are awareof, right?
So like there's a ton of immigration from Jamaica to
England. And so one of the biggest reggae
record labels in the world is Auk based 1.
And so in like the late 60s and 70s, they start pumping out all
these albums. And so it's like them putting
stuff out and then like all the Bob Marley and the Whaler stuff

(01:06:16):
that's coming out in Jamaica. And so like, basically that
makes it like global. And so then all these sub genres
are popping up. So then people are like, Oh
yeah, reggae's mainstream now. And so now we have to make sub
genres just like everything rockgets punk and indie and all the
stuff. So does reggae, right?
And so this is the sub genre that, and this is what I'm
actually a pretty big fan of. But what was cool is to go back

(01:06:38):
in time and like listen to the early stuff of this.
But I'm a big dub fan. Like I like, I've always liked
dub music. Like you bring in like the heavy
bass and like the heavy beat, you know?
And like now looking back, you're like, oh, it feels like
reggae and hip hop, but that's not where it really came from at
all. Like it was a whole separate
thing that came out of reggae and I didn't know that.

(01:06:59):
And so I've been researching this totally.
Echo boxes. Totally.
So this dude, I found out he's one of the inventors of dub.
He's not like the inventor, but like he's one of the early
progenitors of dub. He's called King Tubby.
Very familiar, King Tubby. OK, so you know King Tubby, so

(01:07:20):
he wasn't like an electric like an amateur electrician dude.
And so he would fuck with wiringand also equipment.
And that's where a lot of that like wild echo stuff that you
hear in dub dub comes from is hewas like playing around with
electronics and shit. And I'm like, that is so sick
and so cool. And so I'm going with the King
Tubby song, and I'm going to go with King Tubby meets Rockers

(01:07:42):
Uptown. I like that he put his own name

(01:08:08):
in the song title and it's just a fucking dope dub song.
Emily Dudy, you listening to King Tubby?
I have a few songs on my phone. Yeah.
I feel like I need to do some deep diving because this is this
is fun, Yeah. Dubby I didn't know any of this.
I just know that I like dub and and like what's crazy is how

(01:08:29):
little it's changed because thiscame out in what?
Like what? What did this album come out?
1976? This came out and like, it still
sounds like a lot of the dub that's coming out now.
It's like that. Oh, totally.
You know what I mean? It's like, I don't know how to
explain it. It's got all that like wild echo
stuff going on. It's like kind of repetitive in
the way that dance music's repetitive, but it's still got

(01:08:51):
the reggae like like upbeat stuff or like offbeat stuff on
it. I could listen to this stuff all
day. This this is where I do
understand reggae. Like, although I haven't I never
got deep into like roots reggae.If I just need to go on, if I
just need a Mosey for a while orif it's like a really nice day
out and I'm just on a drive, I will put on like some dub like

(01:09:12):
I'll put on. There's this group.
They eventually got into dubstep, but before they were
dubstep, they were just like straight up dub from the UK
called Freestylers. Like, I was listening to them
like back in high school and like, this stuff is just so
like, it puts me in a really good mood.
So yes, props the King, Tubby. When you play music that makes
you want to dance and put a baseon it, it's like nothing can

(01:09:36):
stop you. It is time to let the the beast
out, kind of release it I. Maybe it's being a bass player
too, Don, but like I appreciate a genre that's like bass
centric, which is very rude. And this Doug is very much bass
centric, which is makes me happy.
So there you go. That's the end of my history.

(01:09:58):
There's a bunch of other sub genres too, like you know, you
guys like dancehall and reggaeton and there's something
called lovers rock that I don't know what that is, but that
comes up when you search. You search.
That's great subgenres, but, youknow, bump.
And grind. Raga, stuff like that.
All right, Emily, do smash, smash the home run.

(01:10:18):
Give us #4. Man, all right, so the last do.
You believe it's already the last one started The last.
One do I do you? You can go.
You want to go first. You want to pop off.
No, it doesn't work like that. That's not how it goes.
I just can't believe that it's already the end.
I feel like you just got here. And I know, I mean, we could do
it again. I'm down now.
We always can. OK.

(01:10:40):
Oh, yeah. Well, I'll wrap it up.
The last song I have is probablyone of my favorite reggae songs.
This is something that I grew upon, so something that really
started my love for reggae. It's called Here I Come by
Barrington Levy. So I grabbed a bunch of rules
and that started to run. Two months later she said come

(01:11:05):
and get this, 'cause I don't want your baby to come.
Tie me down now because you are old and I am young.
Just while I'm young. Yes, I wanna have some fun.
Run me down. I'm sure as soon as you turn it
on, you're going to hear the scuba dab.
Yeah. Anyways, Barry Lovey has like

(01:11:26):
everything that I think of in mychildhood.
My uncle Mark had the most fire record collection and as a kid I
would just be in love and they would always be jamming the
reggae music. My parents.
So. OK, sidebar, my mom has a twin.
They are Cheryl and Carol. And if you think that I'm a lot
times if I too. And that's them, they're

(01:11:47):
awesome. They're hilarious.
But they love reggae music and so do my dad and and my uncle.
But we would go to reggae shows as kids.
And I just this song is what sticks my mind of like different
bands like RE are playing it at shows.
So yeah, that's that's my last choice to bring it home.

(01:12:07):
Cheryl and Carroll. Yes, and Cheryl and Carroll.
Here I Come has more plays than murderer.
Yeah, murderer, because murdereris like the more recognizable
one in my opinion. Yeah, I I would agree with that.
I think that Here I Come has been referenced in there's a
what movie was that? I wonder if it's from Yeah I I

(01:12:30):
do love me some Barrington movie.
That's really good. That's a great choice.
Can you do the intro? Can you sing the intro again?
Yeah, could you sing the intro one more time?
Nope, I can't. The whoa part at the end, I'm

(01:12:55):
broke. But yeah, that's not even the
right song. Now I'm just on the Shuba dog
songs and I'm gonna stop now. But thank you for the
recommendation to do it again. Can I tell you how much I hope
that Roderick's last song is Informer by Snow?
It's not. I'm sorry to break.
All right, that's fine. No, that's OK.

(01:13:17):
It's tough. I have it's my last call.
Do I do and I'll, I guess I'll, I'll pull the audience.
Do I go the better feel good song or the better fun song?
Feel good or fun? Which one are we going?
I feel like feel good's like your Mosey podcast, but this
one's like, well. She's saying.

(01:13:39):
Fun Roger without saying it. All right, then we're saying
fun, then we're going, then we're going 311 and I'm putting
that shit on there and I'm putting.
On. Feel so good.

(01:14:10):
It's going to be the 311 song that I'm putting on there
because you want to know why? Because sometimes Peanut needs
to beat that thing, and that is the 311 song that needs to be on
the Reggae Mixtape, because Peanut needs to beat that thing

(01:14:32):
and rod it. Yeah, I'm not going to say that
it discredits you at all as a bass player, because I'm sure
you were a very talented bass player.
But the fact that you didn't spend more time with 311?
A very talented bass player. My bad, my bad.
The fact that you didn't spend more time with 311 knowing the
talent that Peanut is bums me out.

(01:14:54):
But Feel So Good is off of a wayearly 311 album 1993, and it's
fucking fantastic. It's off of Music, which was one
of their really, really early albums.
And I remember like hearing thisas some of the 311 became more
mainstream, and then you sort oflisten to older 311 because you

(01:15:14):
heard the new 311 and Feel So Good is so good.
It's just a great groove song. It's a great bass line.
Not that that's what this is about, but this is the one for
me. I am I just never really had an
interest in playing this style of bass, but I grew up, I came
up listening to 311 dude, like those like grass roots,

(01:15:36):
self-titled transistor and soundsystem, like those 4 records.
Yeah, yeah. And I I actually got way into
sound system, like I mean self titles, like they're they're
big, they're big albums still tothis day.
But like I love sound system dude front to back, that album
is so good. But I mean there's straight up
reggae songs even on like self-titled and like this all

(01:15:56):
for sure. This makes sense.
This. 1 is probably the least reggae of the reggae songs.
Yeah. But I wasn't going to pass an
opportunity for them to say hey Peanut beat that thing and then
have Peanut just play that sick ass bass ref.
But this is probably the least reggae song of the reggae song.
But there's a weird one of my honorable mentions, there's a

(01:16:18):
weird 311 like side tangent connection there.
So remind me to remind me to bring that up because I'll
forget. But okay, okay, is it, oh, it's
the last last. Pick.
That's it. Last pick and.
Well, I'm going to finish out mymy reggae education, but I'm
going to preface that this my song choice has nothing to do

(01:16:38):
with it. Is that okay?
Can I just only if you? From now on.
What's a regecation? The education.
The regecation. The regecation, yeah.
All right, well, let me close out your regecation here you
too. So, and there's obviously much
more regecation than what I'm giving here, but I also just I

(01:16:59):
always found this is. You've done a great job though.
Thank you. This is 1 aspect of it I I kind
of knew about and I've always found interesting part of this
and part of it I didn't know. So like the whole, the whole
subcultures that came out of this too, that like ska kind of
adopted and then like punk even adopted, but it all came from
reggae. So like rude boys, like the
first rude boys who were actually in like Kingston,
Jamaica. And they were, they were ska and

(01:17:21):
rocksteady kids who were really poor, but they would dress
really nice because of like American soul music.
So they would try to dress like soul singers.
That's where the suit thing camefrom.
I never knew that the like, ska suits came from American soul
music. So they were trying to wear
skinny ties, skinny suits, stufflike that.
But they were poor. And so there's a lot of violence
and a lot of stuff like that. And so like the, the name Rude

(01:17:43):
Boy came because they were like bad kids.
They were rude boys and then awesome.
Yeah. And then like, a lot of like
roots reggae is very anti that. So it's very political and it's
very like nonviolence and peaceful.
So it's very like anti rude boy.And then the other thing I was
found interesting was the Skinhead movement started as the
white kids in England who were into African and Jamaican music.

(01:18:05):
So they were into reggae and like African world music.
I still don't understand where the Skinhead part of it came
off. But they were like trying to be
different and say hey, we don't listen to white mainstream shit
and we only listen to things that you can only listen to on
pirate radio because reggae music was banned apparently on
British radio you couldn't actually play it on BBC so it

(01:18:26):
was only pirate stations. And so the skinheads, they would
shave their fucking heads and they would go listen to reggae
and stuff. And it was not a neo Nazi thing,
it wasn't right wing. It was at first it was actually
like anti racism because they were like hey we want to listen
to black music and the BBC won'tlet us listen about black music.
And then somehow it turned fucking Skinhead and then the

(01:18:47):
sharps came out which are skinheads against racial
president prejudice. That's what SHARP means.
It's a whole fucking thing. I actually don't really fully
understand the Skinhead thing soif anybody wants to leave a
comment and educate me fully because it makes no sense to me
how it can start as a leftist thing turn into a far right
thing in the course of like fouryears in in the UK.

(01:19:07):
But anyway, my song pick has absolutely zero to do with Skin
as her rude boys or anything. That was just the end of my
reggae regication there. So I discovered this band like 2
months ago and I kind of knew inmy mind at some point Emily I'd
be doing a reggae episode. But somehow this band just came
across my Spotify algorithm and I was way fucking into it.

(01:19:30):
And I was like, this is dope. And so I actually saved them on
just one of my like running playlists and then it.
Would be Ivory Terra. Nope.
And then I was as I was preppingfor this, I was like, oh, I got
to put one of these one of thesetrials on there.
So the band is called Boostive B0 0ST IVE and the song is Ties
Unwind. Bringing another woman into the

(01:20:16):
mix here, Emily. Yeah.
These. It's like a young band from San
Diego, and it's like dub reggae.Just good.
I don't know. This song came out in 2022, so I
think this is the newest thing on here.
Question mark. Yeah, probably.
On this playlist, but it's like dub and reggae and they've got

(01:20:38):
horns. It's all the things I like.
Horns, Harry. I would say Harry's probably in
that same timeline, like she's still making music and stuff.
Yeah. Oh, for sure.
I think that's the one you picked was like 2016.
Yes, yeah, I guess. Sorry, I'm thinking old chunk,
but yeah, that one's definitely.No, it's cool.

(01:20:59):
We've got a couple. Playlist.
We've got a all three of us picklike a new one.
Newish because Don had the Don had The Dirty heads.
No, it's not newish. There's new dirty heads, but
we'll say 2012 was new enough. I don't know what to say about
this. That just sounds like really
good dub reggae to me and I. I'm so excited to just start
clicking on like artists on my Spotify shit now.

(01:21:21):
Yes, this is going to be the soundtrack to my summer I love.
It yeah, I don't I, I don't recognize a single similar
artist to Boostive on here. So there's probably.
But if you click on hot Stepas it's fucking awesome as well.
Take your shoes off. Dip your toes.
Who's called Dubula? I can't wait to go down that
rabbit hole. Dubula Fantastic.
Hey, Emily, dude, do you want tohit us with your honorable

(01:21:43):
mentions? OK, yeah, how many do you just
want me to pop off with? One for now.
Whatever you want, with a whole,with a whole crapload of them.
How many? OK, OK, I'll, I'll keep this
simple. So I think the first one is an
honorable mention because I havea playlist in this playlist I

(01:22:06):
try to listen to every morning and it gets me to dance and move
it and groove it like this is mylike all right time to get some
shit done today playlist. And every time I hear this song,
I'm dancing, I'm moving and grooving.
It's called move with an exclamation point.
Have to put that because that's that's the emphasis.
It is by Damien Junior Gong Marley or Damien Marley off of

(01:22:31):
Welcome to Jamrock. I mean Welcome to Jamrock.
That whole album is just epic dance moves.
I mean, I feel like if people know reggae dub, that's the
album that they know. So I would definitely call that
one. Also someone the Love by Stephen
Marley. That one's just, it's a feel

(01:22:52):
good. I feel like I could just pop off
on all the Marley's, all twelve sons and 2730 grandchildren he
has. I'm sure they've all made really
good music. And then the last one I'd say is
Patience by Nas and Damian Marley.
I know I already said Damian Marley, but I'd Nas just hits

(01:23:12):
hard and the the little fluke action going on, I love it.
So those are those are mine. Right, great job.
Good choices. I got a shit load, believe it or
not. Believe it or not, I got a shit
load. OK, so I didn't want to repeat
artists. So that's why you got all new
artists from reggae music for me.

(01:23:34):
But if I were to repeat artists,I would probably put Sublime
Garden Grove on the mix tape first track off of the Sublime
self-titled. I think that that one probably
started it for a big crop of people, but I've given Sublime
twice Soja rest of my life. That was an artist that I've had
on a song past, but that song introduced me to that artist.

(01:23:57):
So crossing Soja off and then ifyou guys had let me pick between
3:11, the other one was going tobe Tribal Seeds Rock the night.
No better feel good song fun wasactually the song that feels so
good. Feel good song is Rock the night
by Tribal seeds. God damn, that's a good song.
It is just fantastic. So those were my honorable

(01:24:18):
mentions and then it was so on the nose, but jamming by Bob
Marley and the Whalers, like could, couldn't not have one,
you know. But again, I've had Bob Marley
on mix tapes past, so Yep, thoseare all my honorable mentions.
Rodrick. The one I audible to go King

(01:24:39):
Tubby to stay with my regecationwas Welcome to Jamrock by Damien
Marley. So to your point, Emily, that
album, that whole album, like, yes, even as a novice to the
genre, I know that album and I know it's maybe 2 on the nose
'cause it's it was kind of a bigfucking hit just in general, but
welcome to Jamrock. It is so good.

(01:25:01):
But I put King Tubby on instead.But yeah, Damien Mar that that
whole album, Welcome to Jamrock is great.
And the song Welcome to Jamrock is fantastic.
And then I also had Steely and Clevy.
I Shazammed at some point. It's in my Shazam list.
It's like literally going to my Shazam list and there's this.

(01:25:23):
It's steely and clevy. You don't love me.
And I don't know where it came from, but somewhere I was out
somewhere and this was on. I was like, huh, what's this?
And that's what it is. And it's, I think it's like an
early 90s reggae group. So.
And then I had good news from the Scottalites.
It was either that or the rocksteady song at the

(01:25:43):
beginning. And then which honestly, you
should listen to the ScottalitesDawn as a Scott fan, like
because Oh yeah, you hear it andyou're like that sounds like 2
tone Scott from the UK, but it also sounds like a from American
R&B. It's really kind of trippy to
listen to it. And then lastly, can't stop now
by Major Lazer with Mr. Vegas and Jovi Rockwell, because me, I

(01:26:03):
fucking love Major Lazer so much.
I've talked about I've picked Major Lazer in our past
episodes, but this song is a straight up dub song like can't
stop now is and there's a few Major Lazer songs.
They're just full on straight dub, but that's the 311
reference. Don.
The song features Mr. Vegas. Yo and Major Lazer, that was my
first concert and I probably shouldn't put this on the

(01:26:26):
podcast, but sorry mom, my firstconcert was Major Lazer.
I lied to my mom said I was going to my friend Najay's
house. I was like yo sleepover.
Obviously we went to the show Diplo staged dove and I reached
up and I got to touch him and itwas the greatest day and I was a
raver ever since it was so good.It was a great moment anyway, so

(01:26:48):
your. Mom still isn't know until now.
Yeah, she does. Now what?
Was your name. Which one was your mom again?
You said your mom was. You know what?
Both Cheryl and Carol apologies for Emily, but she was just
being a young, rebellious you. Know what?
I bet you went to a sleepover and then ended up at a dubstep

(01:27:10):
show somewhere. For sure the.
Shenanigans. Yes.
And Emily, I've I've always thought you were cool, but you
just, you just added a couple more points in my book for
sneaking out and go, your first concert being a Major Lazer
concert. Holy shit that.
Is incredible. My first real concert.

(01:27:31):
Gavin Rosdale staged Dove and I touched his bum.
While he. Staged Dove.
So nothing like going to your first concert and touching
somebody. Can we get Cheryl and Carol to
start a sky band called The Shenanigans?
Could we could we get them on for an episode and have Cheryl
and Carol and a Scott? And Carol with with the
shenanigans. Yeah.

(01:27:51):
The backing band is the shenanigans.
Totally. Yeah, that's the right move.
No, the the official band name is Cheryl and Carol bring the
Shenanigans and their backing band is the Shenanigans.
And every time people ask if we have tickets, instead of saying,
and Emily, do we, Cheryl, do have some tickets for you?
You know, we can play on words. It's a good time.

(01:28:14):
Don, with all the bad puns you've made, you have to laugh
at that. That's the rule.
I love it. I absolutely love it.
The great Emily do. For sure.
Yeah, you want to read this stuff?
Roderick, this was transcendent for you.
This was, I think, some of your best, your best contribution.
I loved my regulation that you brought to the table.

(01:28:36):
This is fantastic. Only I had the time to research
more with 4 episodes instead of just winging it all the time and
talking about the wrong the wrong big band leaders dying in
mysterious plane crashes and. Could you imagine?
Like that? OK, the less the list was as
follows. Exodus by Skip Marley, Inner
Circle, Sweat a La La La La song.

(01:28:58):
Alton Ellis featuring the FlamesRocksteady Super Beagle Dust, a
Soundboy, Dirty Heads Sails to the Wind shoots and The Maytals
pressure drop. Hyree, don't take my ganja.
Mike Love permanent holiday KingTubby King Tubby meets rockers
Uptown. Barrington Levy Here I Come 311

(01:29:19):
feels so good and boostive Ties on wine.
That's it. There we go.
What a play, very. I had a very lovely time talking
reggae with with you 2 wonderfulpeople.
Emily. Do.
I hope that this is the soundtrack of your 420 bra.
You already know I. Hope toes are out.
Toes are out. Yeah.

(01:29:40):
Are you better when, when you when when you blazed up on 4/20?
This better be on I. Hope this is on and I hope the
toes are out. I'm not putting anything on the
Internet, but just know I'll be prepared.
Hey, you will know, you know. Yeah, for sure.

(01:30:03):
How? To make mix tape.
Thank you Emily for hanging out with.
Us thank you guys this has been so fun oh I loved it you guys
are awesome is. This why you're so happy all the
time? It's because you listen to so
much reggae. Is that why you're so smiley?
It might be that and the other thing we were just talking
about. But yeah, I feel like drink some
water, listen to reggae. But to answer your question,

(01:30:26):
done. Listen to reggae.
Yeah, don't you stay hydrated ifyou're going to be happy.
How to make a mixtape sticker, Drink some water and listen to
reggae. Oh fantastic.
What's Staying hydrated is important?
We got to make the reference. Who's your sticky?
The sticker guy, The awesome sticker guy that you guys pay
tribute to on the ads, Yes. No, you're talking.

(01:30:50):
No, you're talking Doug from little gimmicks.
Yes, little gimmicks. The best.
Definitely get some stickers andlisten to the podcast B Plus.
Stickers, maybe B plus hold up to piss.
Sometimes good. You know how we do shit?
We can't talk shit on him Don. He's he's awesome and he's
making us 3 new stickers right now.
I know that's an exciting time. 3 slappies, you got to give

(01:31:11):
those to me before I go to Japanso I can slap them up well.
Yeah, Don, you want to? You want to tell the audience
what stickers we're getting? Nope.
The Instagram will tease the. Audience now so they can order
some merch. Yeah, fair enough.
The new merch is up on the store.
How to make a mixtape dot? Com the metal, the death death
tape and the prisoner of mixtapestuff yes and oh, I should say

(01:31:31):
this damn, I'm glad Emily, thankyou for helping us plug stuff
because we don't plug ourselves at all.
So here's what I'll say one we haven't said this in like 10
episodes. Please subscribe and follow.
If you don't follow the podcast,what's wrong with you?
Please tell your friends and family and loved ones about it.
Buy some merch, we'll send you some stickers, slap that shit
wherever we also I've heard you.I've had like 5 people come to

(01:31:55):
me. So yes you can pay with PayPal
now, but you can also just pay with a credit card now on the on
the website I've made I did a thing and made that happen.
So if you didn't buy anything because you don't have a PayPal
account, which means you're obviously not a millennial
because all millennials have PayPal accounts.
Jay, just be careful if you're going to order the death tape
long sleeve because there's age restrictions.

(01:32:16):
It's for adults. Did you realize?
No, if you fully read, there's some, There are new laws.
There are new laws in the EU about garments and we have to
legally, if we want to be able to sell to Europe, we have to
legally have that disclaimer on our shit.

(01:32:37):
That's. That long sleeve T-shirt for
adults? Don't you go I?
Imagine we're going to sell a bunch of those in Sweden.
Dude, Swedish people love their black metal.
I want to be able to sell that sell that tea in Sweden.
Which means we have to have thatEU claim down there if.
You think about it, don't you even think about it.

(01:33:00):
Take it out of your cart right this second.
If you are not 18 years of age, this is 4 adults.
This is an adult long sleeve shirt.
Or you could. Just tell your mom you're going
to go on a sleepover and order at your friend's house whatever
you want to do. That's enough.
That's right, there you go. Love it.
Emily do great. Thank you.

(01:33:22):
Happy holidays. Right back at you.
Thank you guys. This was awesome podcast.
See you later. Bye.
Thank you. I'm going.

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