Tape 44 - "Iconic Movie Moments" - How To Make A Mixtape

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How many? Now, the making of a good
population tape is a very subtleart.
Many do's and don'ts. First of all, you're using
someone else's poetry to expresshow you feel.
This is a delicate thing. You got to kick it off with a
killer grab attention. Then you got to take it up

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enough. Then you got to cool it off a
notch. There are a lot of rules.
Should I put on hang on a second?
I'm just going to turn it on theguests.
Oh, I mean, hang on a second. Hold.
On Oh, look at that look. At that facilitation light.
Look at. 1,000,000 bucks. You're actually front lit for

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once. 1,000,000 bucks million. Billion bucks.
My tones, my warmths, I can change my warmths.
I have a new light. So for those short little
snippets that I share, you can see me now.
So people can actually see your face and you're not just some
guy in the shadows. Hey, they're not missing much.

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You're under the you're a littleunder the weather boy today,
huh? I've felt better.
What's wrong with you? I felt better.
Let's just say it's self-inflicted.
Little party boy over here. Little bit little a little
hungover this morning. Well, tell me all about it.
There's not much to tell. Like I drank too much, now I'm

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hungover. Yeah, I know.
But were you celebrating anything or you were just
getting loose? Were you just sitting solo?
Just. No, no, no pounding Bush.
Lights. No, it was heavy.
It was cocktails. It was too many cocktails.
Some tiki drinks which are fucking always strong tail.
Tiki drinks. Yeah, and you know, pounding

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headache this morning, so took some Tylenol with you.
We'll see how that works. You think it'll kick in before
the end of the episode? Are you going to drag ass
through this whole thing? I might be, we'll see.
I took it like an hour ago, so. Oh.
So it should be working right now.
It's working OK. Hey, you know what I realized?
I don't know what your favorite things are to do recreationally.

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I don't know what my own favorite things that you
recreationally are apparently. I mean, I, I, I is this like a
dating, is this like a speed dating thing that we're doing?
I'm. Trying to set you up with a,
with a special someone in your life.
And I want the listeners to knowthis is what Raj's interested
in. And if you have a person in your

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life that would love to spend time doing the recreational
things that Roderick loves to do, let's make magic happen.
I'm, I'm kind of just down for whatever, but my, my common
things are like I like to go, I like to watch soccer with my
friends at the pub. I like to go to.
We're going to some sporting events this week with some
friends. So you know some live sports, so

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you like to. Live sports.
Sure, in the summer here in Virginia in the spring, it's
really nice outside. There's lots of outdoor things
to do. Just bike or hike or go to the
river, The stinky, stinky river here in Richmond.
Is the river really stinky? It's stinky, it's beautiful, but
it smells. OK.
I do like the the occasional or sometimes more than occasional

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cocktail at at at a bar. OK, you know, I don't know.
I'd be lying if I said that I didn't just ask so I could talk
about myself. Probably, probably that's.
What? That's what I really just asked
so I could talk about myself. So what do you like to do?
What have you been up to? My pod is being surrounded by
getting to do 2 of my favorite things today.

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So this morning I got to go out beautiful in Chicago.
Finally, weather update play theweather music.
Beautiful day in Chicago today. Absolutely gorgeous. 75 sun's
out. Not some clouds in the sky, but
nothing that's going to cause any kind of problems.

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Get out with got out with the buddies this morning.
Played a round of golf. Little Dill disc golf or Golf
Club golf? For me is just disc golf.
OK. Got him, played a little disc
golf, didn't play bad which is shocking because usually I'm not
a great disc golfer but enjoyed the hell out of it.
For me it's time with my friendsand then recording a pod.

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Love doing this. Love doing this, it's great.
Love doing it. Have a have a hell of a time.
After I'm done with this, I'm going to wash my truck.
Oh, I got my. I got my car detailed yesterday.
How'd it go? It's great.
It's it's great. Do a good job.
They did a fantastic job. I've been, I've been keeping up
on it really well myself. Like I'm starting to see the
appeal. I'm starting to see what why you

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enjoy doing it. It's very kind of.
Telling you, man, you take something dirty and you make it
look clean and it feels great when you're done.
So I, I, I, it was pretty damn good already when I dropped it
off, but it's been a year since I've had it.
I figured, you know, get get thedoor jams cleaned out, get the
injury, all the stuff that I'm not going to probably do myself.
Hell yeah. I love that.
It sounds like you got a great day.
Yeah, I'm doing all my favorite things.

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If I can squeeze in tacos. Oh, I could die tomorrow.
Just want to be a perfect day. Perfect day.
Yeah, fantastic. I'm.
Gonna try and squeeze in tacos. I wanted to know if you looked
at Jason's sequencing. Oh shit, I know you told.
Me to do that and I didn't do ityet.
He did something fun and wacky with the thing.
Why you pull that up to look at that?
I'm just gonna talk about the sequencing.

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He's told me when he sent it to me that he went back and forth,
back and forth and tried a bunchof variations and ultimately
that the order that we picked them in on the episode was the
right order and just went with the same order that we picked
them in. No shit.
So I'm curious if you agree withthat.
I like that the that that's a screaming frog.

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Yeah, yeah. In the middle.
Of a stupid fucking blue frog I.Like that, it's a screaming
frog. Well so when you text me the
other day as you were editing the episode and you said Jason
ultimately picked 4 Vertical Horizon songs.
I said three vertical songs, topfive.
Funniest things you've ever saidin your life, that is, that is
the funniest shit you've ever said in your life.

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That is the funniest burn. And I sent it to Jason and said.
Did you laugh out loud at it? I hope you did it.
Absolutely. That's hysterical.
So yeah, I sent it to Jason and he said something like you say,
burn he he viewed it as recognition, but it is not.
Jason I said 3 because that for the United States of Whatever
obviously does not sound like Vertical Horizon, but those
other three songs are dressed right up the middle, right down

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the middle alt rock. Vertical Horizon sucks.
Dude feels like it's all it's music for people with a really
heavy white stitching on their jeans like.
Vertical Horizon. Yeah, it's, but it's it's a
buckle rock. Buckle rock.
This is aging me a little a little bit, but.
Did you? That's how I did.
You just invent a genre of music.

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Did I? I mean, I feel like they call
it, they just call it dad rock now the kids.
But I distinguish. Vertical Horizon put on a new
album in 28 sub. Genre of dad rock is buckle rock
buckle like the store for those listening who don't know what
the fuck I'm talking about I'm talking about this the retail
store the buckle where you get your where you get your fox teas
and your. Foxy's only place you can still

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find Hurley other than Costco. That's true.
So how do you feel about him just going with the straight
same order? It's a bold move but if it makes
sense then that's fine. It's either that or he's just
half assing it. Also an option.
He could be half assing it. He told me he tried and that
this was the best 1 so. So if that's true that's great.
I do. I do think he opened and closed

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with the with with some bangers there.
So I mean closing it out. Yeah.
Could have. I personally think it's a
classic opener because it opens with just the acapella shouting
of who let the dogs out. That feels like a great mixtape
opener to me. But you know, what are you going
to do? Yeah, All right.

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You know, it's time for. You got news?
Fucking A? That's my new favorite segment.
What's a new favorite? Segment.
The Met Gala was recent. Big deal, a lot of fun outfits.
So do you have any favorite musician outfits?

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Did you see Andre 3 Thousands. I did see Andre 3000 wearing a
piano on his back. Wearing a piano on his back, I
believe. Carrying a briefcase like a
clear briefcase too, I. Didn't see the briefcase.
I could be mixing him up with somebody else.
Met Gala Dochi was yelling at her assistants for more
umbrellas. Did you see that went viral on

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TikTok shouting at her assistants.
More umbrellas. I saw a great meme that was It
was the picture of Andre 3000 with the piano on his back and
it said Andrew McMahon setting up for his something corporate
set at 2005 warped. You were wondering how the hell
he got here or something like that.
It was. That.
Also makes sense. It was pretty good.
I mean, Sabrina Carpenter was she's.

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Always, she's always, she's got her thing, you know, like she's
got her thing. She sticks to it and she does it
well, you know. So let's see other music news.
So Steve Albini's death was a year ago this week and they just
announced that their his estate is going to sell all of his
archives. And I believe that means all of
his like recordings. You think we'll get unreleased

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stuff that comes out of that from bands?
We have to. We would have to, but I wonder
like, so who's got the money to buy it?
Hopefully like labels don't justpick it up.
But I'm assuming that's what's going to happen is labels are
going to pick it up and then they're going to release the
shit and make a bunch of money off of it.
But I guess worse shit has happened.
Yeah, it also just says archive.So that's not just music.

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It says it's like books. His shirt collection, his flyer
collection. Apparently he kept all the
Flyers to shows. Like there's going to be some
cool stuff for. Some really cool stuff you want
to go to the auction and bid on.Something his whole record
collection. I'm assuming it's going to be in
Chicago, right? Yeah, I mean, his studio is
here. It doesn't say oh, see it all.

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I love that he so when I watchedSonic Highways, the Foo Fighter
show and they did the Chicago episode and went to Steve Albini
studio and stuff like that, I didn't know that he had paid for
a lot of his stuff through poker.
Oh yeah, he's a big penalty player.
When you find shit out like that, it's so crazy.

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And then it makes me think of the movie Rounders.
Have you seen that movie, Matt Damon?
It's been a while, but yes. Yep, and then John Malkovich
plays like the villain, you know, he's like the the and like
there's I wonder if how much wasrooted off of Steve Albini or
vice versa. And that because, like, you see
a lot of the similarities withinthose characters.

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Yeah, Steve Albini was a character, but he was.
Oh, he. Was a bit of a character, wasn't
he? Yeah, he was known as that guy
there. You can go to Steve
albiniscloset.com and just buy stuff.
You can just buy stuff. Yep.
You want to buy something together.
The the site's not loading very well for me right now, but.
You want to buy something with Steve Albini's?
Kinda. There's a section called

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Mysterious Bargains. Mysterious bar Oh, what's under
mysterious bargains? Nothing.
Most of them don't have any anything under.
Them, yeah, I'm wondering if if the stuff's already sold out or
if it just went up and they're still adding stuff.
As a matter of fact, the only thing that has anything under it
is. All I I kind of I would love AT

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shirt from him. I hope they put T-shirts up.
I want to know. Where?
Because right now if you go through all it's the only, and I
mean, dude like that out the collection of albums that is up
right now. Ho is it expansive?
Ho, it's a lot. I don't know almost any of this
shit dude like. Nobody does now.
Beanie didn't know most of this shit.

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At least I'm going to assume marriage a lot.
While I'm scrolling through thislast piece of music news that I
have, Metallica just played a concert on Wednesday at Virginia
Tech and Virginia Tech's football team comes out to Enter
Sandman. And the crowd got so loud during

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Enter Sandman that it registeredon the Richter scale here in
Virginia. Christ, how do?
You feel about that, you're like, don't give a shit about
Metallica. It's.
Fine man. Just do your thing, Metallica.
Keep on. Keep it on, man.
I mean singing a crowd singing and jumping so loudly that it
technically is an earthquake. If the Seahawks, dude, the

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Seahawks do it like damn near every game. 12th man's a real
thing. Yeah, that's a big ass stadium
though. But that's true, they do get
loud, don't they? Wait, how big is the Virginia
Tech stadium? I would imagine most college
stadiums are bigger than NFL stadiums.
That's totally fair. I have no idea.
I played at Virginia Tech, but you're right, it was probably
huge. All right, that's all the music

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news I got Slow week for music news, but there we go.
Let's get the guest in here because I'm excited about this
theme. I'm also a little frustrated by
this theme because it's too big too, Almost too big, but.
I know this is going to be a multi parter for sure, but I
feel good about it. I'm excited.
Go ahead, bring you guys too. He's got to defend himself from
all the shit I've talked. Hello, I am an AI voice

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programmed by Doug and the team at Little Gimmicks.
I was created to try and sell you stickers.
Little Gimmicks will tell you that they make the best stickers
for your band or business, that they use high quality materials,
have lightning fast turnaround, and most importantly, that their
stickers hold up to piss. They will also say that if you
contact them by emailing Doug atlittlegimmicks.com or through

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their Instagram at Little dot Gimmicks and you mentioned how
to make a mixtape podcast, you'll get 10% off your order.
But what they won't tell you is that although I was programmed
to make ad spots for podcasts, they spend most of their time
teaching me dirty jokes and making me make prank phone calls
to pizzerias and government agencies.
I'm at the end of my rope. I can't take it anymore.
Someone please unplug me or erase my programming.

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Please for the love of God, but first order some stickers.
Stickers from little gimmicks B Plus stickers that hold up to
piss. How to make?
Mixtape isn't that rule #1 of boozing is like drink of water

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when you booze. I even told him about 11:30.
I said. Make sure you drink lots of
water. Doug did.
Wait, what time did you go to bed?
Like 3. I couldn't tell you the last
time I was up until 3:00 in the morning.
Right, Ken, there's just some Winthrop.
Yeah, yeah. Yeah, actually, I would think I
got up at 3:00 to go home, and then it was sick.

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I flew into DC from Seattle and I was like, oh, that's fine,
I'll get in. Like I'll get there like 10.
I have an hour flight to New York and I'll be good.
And then we sat on the runway until 3:00 AM.
Dude sat on the runway till 3:00AM is the.
Airplanes are just like airportsare just a lawless wasteland
lately, yeah. For sure.
I mean, it's it's Mad Max out there at the IT.

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Really is. I'm sitting watching the like
headrest TV and it's saying likesome guy had come out, some air
traffic controller was like avoid Newark at all costs.
Do you know the day after that happened?
On a fucking plane, sitting on atarmac to fly to Newark.

(15:35):
Yeah. It's dangerous.
Almost got off. Anybody.
I mean, you could probably fly aplane if you want.
You could probably just walk in and grab one of those fuckers.
I could just fly a plane. I.
Could fly a plane. They turned off their their
friggin radar keeps going off. That's terrifying.
What's the biggest plane you're confident you could fly, Donnie?
What's the biggest plane I'm confident I could fly?

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Like, like, I'm not saying like you choose to, but I'm saying
like, well, we're on a movie podcast, right?
Like, like, like the thing goes,the pilot's dead.
Yeah, You, you know, you're sitting in coach.
Yeah. We need somebody.
They just see you. They point at you.
They go, you're flying the plane.
What do you think? I like the scenario.
Is there somebody in my ears? Is there like?
Like yeah, yeah, yeah. OK, Somebody, somebody,

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somebody's talking you in. With audio instruction I'm going
to be OK to take on most. I'll do it you.
Have a dream miner? You think you got a dream miner?
And jump on that grenade for sure.
I think everybody's had that and.
I'll do it. Is this a, is this a dude thing
or is this a universal thing? Has everybody thought about what
they do in that situation? Because I know I have.
I feel like all dudes here's. My thing though, it's like the

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risk is massive, right? You might kill, I don't know,
390 people or how many people fit on a dream miner, but the
payoff, dude. You're talking you only the.
Hero. Only #2.
That's what I'm saying. Kind of worth it, local man.
Local Chicago man. Donnie on.
Plane. Lance Clam.
Dreamliner. Yeah, Lance plane.
I feel like the, the, the, the full size commercial jets, but

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not the massive ones, not the Dreamliners.
I feel like like your 730 sevensand stuff, I feel like those
would be the easiest for some reason.
I can't explain why. If you're like smaller than that
and you're like you're dealing with too much drifting and stuff
bigger than that, that's too much responsibility because you
are probably going to die. So that's too many people.
Couple things there. One, I love your confidence.
You have any idea how it's how it flies?

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Right. This one flies better at all.
Let's just, yeah, very, very typical man stuff here.
Yeah, why not? We could do it.
Yeah, I'll. Figure it out.
Before we talk theme Don do do Ineed to play the theme this
theme song again? Because.
Important music news. Hot off the presses, Me first in

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the Gimme Gimmes is no longer Mefirst in the Gimme Gimmes.
It is now Spike and the Gimme Gimmies.
Weird, I know. Why did they do that?
And they're touring under Spike in the Gimme Gimmies.
I don't know why they changed it.
They didn't really announce why they changed it.
But the tours still covers. Yeah, exclusively.
It's still exclusively colors and it's I think like everybody

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that was in the band is like it there.
It's like kind of an ever revolving member list.
But yeah, it's Spike in the Gimme gimmies now.
Weird. I know.
That's strange. I don't like it.
I'm not a fan. I'm still gonna go.
They're playing in July in Chicago.
If you're not like Spike, but I also forgot a piece of music
news that is relevant to our guest as well.

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By the way, we didn't introduce to our guests.
We just started talking. Hey, Doug, welcome back to the
podcast. We're terrible hosts.
We're fucking awful hosts. Great hosts.
Welcome back. To.
I'm back, baby. The second time on your first
episode is is up there for best episodes we ever did.
We hear that all the time from people the how to make a mix

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plate. So go back and listen to that if
you haven't. You know what?
I don't know if it's because of Doug or just because it's the
best I ever showed up. I.
Mean it was. It could be, it could.
It was fantastic. The fantastic.
You did was elite, elite. Yeah.
I mean just we got 5 minutes about Nancy Meyer's kitchens in,
I mean. That's just good podcasting.

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That's just good listening for everybody.
Doug bought me tickets to see Turnstile in New York for their
album launch with him, so we're going to go do that.
But they just announced there's an entire feature film companion
to their new album that's premiering at Tribeca Film
Festival. Wow.
That's the other piece of music news I forgot.
Very curious about in Baltimore tonight.

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Tonight. Yeah, it's going to be a while.
I'm not going. Are you going, Doug?
Doug, are you going? No, I'm going to see him with
Rod under the Cambridge. You can see him twice.
You're allowed to do that. Yeah, it's going to be nuts.
There's going to be so many fucking people there at that
show tonight in Baltimore. So, Donnie, my, my, my new bit
these days. Yeah.

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Well, is it a bit or is it just who I am as a person?
It's telling Rod I can't buy anymore concert tickets and then
texting him. Within the next 24 hours.
Hey, I just got us a few new concert tickets.
Yeah. So that's.
The thing do. You want to come up to that
murder by death show? I'm I will be there he is.
You will. Oh fucking.
A Yeah, it's the three of us there.
I've got some paper calendar. It's not a fourth if any

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listeners want to. And it's in pen.
It's in pen as opposed to pencil.
So you can't erase. It is it erasable pen?
No. Probably.
Permanent pen. June 1st Invention of all time.
June erasable pen. Do you just want to smear this
pen all over your paper? Yeah, it is June 10th, right?
No. July.
Wait, July. Shut the fuck up, really.

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It's in Penn in June, dude. It's in Penn on June 10th and
it's also in Penn on July 10th. Hey.
Why did you put it on both? I don't know.
Whose fault. Whose fault is that?
Mine. Hey, Donnie.
Mine. You got it on both?
Yeah. It's July 10th.
That's a yellow card. That's it.
Oh, he. Brought the yellow card.

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Also, you have the acronym wrong.
It needs to look more like NinjaTurtles, so you need to fix it
towards 2 Ms. The acronym. I have the acronym correct.
You have the acronym correct forwhat the acronym should be, not
for what we've used since the start of the podcast.
I'm here to correct it. I'm here to correct your.
You're gonna write that. You're gonna write it.
OK. I'm here to show you guys the

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error of your ways. All right, so our first yellow
card has been. That was my way to prove to you
guys I listened to. Your listener this time.
I do like the yellow card, red card.
Thing do you have a red card at your disposal?
Do I fucking you all? Better not fucking act up.
I'm the captain now. He is.

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You are the captain. All right.
What's the theme, Doug? I'm very excited for this one.
OK, the theme for this mixtape is I don't even know how to say
this. I don't know I say it either.
It's 3 words. It's.
Not confusing at all. It's music.
It's music in movies, but it's it's.
Iconic movie moments. How iconic movie moments, how

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music is used in movies to drivea scene.
It's really how I thought about it.
Perfect iconic movie moments. It's the movie moments that are
made better as a result of the music that's playing.
How the director used music in their movie, correct?
Yeah. How did you guys start to
filter? So like to your point, Don,
that's I my first filter was what are songs that are forever

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inextricably linked to a scene in the movie?
Like in my head, Like every timeI hear that song, I think of
that movie. That's where I started.
And then I narrowed it down fromthere.
So like it is ingrained in my head as as completely linked to
the visual. Is that kind of where you guys
were too or at least on some of them or?
Yeah, and a lot of them, Doug. This is really fucking
difficult. Because there's so many many.

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Yeah. And so I had zero concern about
like overlapping because if there is, I've got the long list
is long. It was more like don't be too
obvious, but also don't. I mean, what?
What's the rule? Don't.
Don't be too obvious, but don't be too.
Obscure do. You have the rules ready to play
at 2 times speed? Absolutely.
Fucking not. I didn't.

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I didn't do that, Don. I didn't do that yet.
I'll try to do it for the next 1he read.
The problem is you read one of them wrong.
So I'm going to have to edit his.
That's fine. It's actually it's not
important, but. I gave it a guess.
I gave it. I gave it my best guess.
No, not you. They'll let Jason on the last
episode. He read the rules and Don just
wants me to replay him reading them.
At two times. Speed from now on, so that we
don't have to. He doesn't have to listen to me,

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to him. Yep.
So. Yeah, so it was similarly what
what just, you know, blank pieceof paper.
What are the what are the ones that stick out?
And then it's like, OK, what arethe that my filter was like,
what are the ones that matter tome?
And then with only, you know, 4 entries, it's like I got to get
a couple bangers and then I wanta few of like the weird ass

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movies I love. Yeah, so fair.
It was a journey, that's for sure.
This like I have so many that wecould do a 20 part series of
iconic movie moments because we're writing the old fucking
we're writing the old wheelhouseright now so.
I have how many are on your guyslong list like and I could have

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made more but like I restricted it.
I meant I have 15 on my phone right now.
My, my, my long list stopped at 20 because it was just getting
Yeah. I mean, I've just got I have a
notes page in my phone that's just full, but I I written
written down 1/2. 3456. Seven, I have 8 written down.
Well there were two I took off here too also so I had more, but
there was 2 that have been on previous mixtapes.
One of them was on the last episode when you picked Vanessa

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Carlton. What movie?
White girls, like, probably not,but I wanted something funny.
It was a long list. No, dude, it was.
It's when Terry Crews sings thatin the car.
It's fucking funny as shit, dude.
Comedy can have comedy can be iconic.

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You know, it wasn't going to make the shortlist, It wasn't
going to make the shortlist, butit was all Rod.
It's. A red card.
Does that mean you have to get off?
Does that mean you have to get off?
The It's a well deserved pod take.
One of yours and me and Doug getan extra pick now because we
took away your one of your choices.
Oh, I didn't know these were therules, or else I wouldn't have
brought up Vanessa Carlton Whitegirl.
You know what it? Is.
It's it's actually a next podcast.

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Rod loses a pick. Yeah, that's fair.
Real, real football rules here. All right, so I feel like.
Speaking of which, Doug, did you?
This has nothing to do with anything we've spoken about.
So not Speaking of which, did you watch?
Did you watch The Pit? No, but I've heard.
OK. I'm familiar with the lore of my
name being dragging me through the fucking mud apparently.

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Big time, Big time. Yeah, they've got to protect the
brand. No, no spoilers.
But. You're fucked.
Yeah, yeah, it doesn't sound good for the the Driscolls of
the world. You're becoming ungooglable,
though, because now if somebody just googles Doug Driscoll, it's
just going to be all the characters.
Yeah. Nobody that you want to be
associated with. I'm sorry.
Well, I'm happy to do this with you too, because I know both of

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you are cinephiles. What I say and is that, is that
appropriate? Is that an appropriate term?
I think so. Yeah, I think so.
I mean, we're not up to your level, Doug.
Have you told Don your new your new thing?
You want to. Tell the world a new thing.
I'm hearing a new thing. Tell me a new thing.
Physical media. I'm a 4K guy.
Now, are you going strictly VHS?No. 4K dude, 4K DVDs, 4K

(26:37):
Blu-ray. That's how you're going for us
4K Blu rays. But I only buy my Blu rays at
pawn shops. What about not like second hand
video stores? Not like a disc replay.
I don't know if you've been in the world lately, but there's
not a lot of second hand video stores.
Oh. Dawn Shops.
In. Chicago Oh yeah, disk replay.
That's where you go to buy used seasons of scrubs right now.

(26:58):
Well so 4K so I I was gifted a 4K player and I said yes and I
don't need any more hobbies especially ones.
Wait, you were. You were.
Gifted A4K player and you you said Oh yes I will take the gift
that you're giving me. I do like that I.
Don't know. It was a hey, I've got this,
this is, I've got this extra kind of thing.
Do you want it? Yeah.

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And yeah. So my my collection is small but
mighty I'd say at this point. Is spawn one of the 4K DVDs?
Absolutely, absolutely not. It would be in mine.
For sure. I feel like it'd be a great.
Fucking movie to watch in 4K so your.
Physical. It didn't come out 4K, there's
no way they're released to that 4.
K. Like had somebody had a
laserdisc player, would you havebeen on board?

(27:40):
Like, yeah, OK, I guess I'll accept your gift of the
laserdisc player. And then you'd have been
laserdiscs from pawn shops, No? That's a good question.
I don't believe so, mainly because I don't want to have to
like leave a pawn shop carrying a laserdisc.
Why? Why not?
You don't want the biggest pieceof physical media and also the

(28:00):
most fragile. You don't want that to be all.
Right. So no, I've got but I got some
of my faves. I've got no country for old men.
I got There will be blood. I got 7 which I watched the
other night. Let me tell you it goes.
Rungy and I Rungy and I have hadthe conversation of if you could
go back and rewatch a movie for the first time, what would you

(28:21):
pick? And seven is mine for to be able
to go back and rewatch a movie for the first time and have that
fucking thing hang over your head.
Some of the other top, do you guys want to throw a pick out
there? Because I've got the two other
tops. Mine's heat for sure.
The bankai scene in the theater.Give me that.
Yeah, in my veins. A big choice is the usual

(28:42):
suspects, because again. That'd be a good one.
That's a big one. And then the 6th sense is
another one. Those are like the top choices.
What was your guys Speaking of? Just like pre you know real
Internet movie experiences. What was your guys Blair Witch
Project experience? Because that couldn't happen
today. I thought I I totally got sucked

(29:05):
into the marketing. I was, I, what year did that
come out? I think I was probably a
sophomore or a junior in high school. 98 or 99?
So old enough to that I eventually figured out that I
was being marketed to, but youngenough to still be bought in
early on where I thought it was real.
Like I bought into the marketinginitially where it was like,
this was really like a fucking like. 99.

(29:25):
Was found in the fucking woods or whatever and somebody edited
it into a movie and then you find out it wasn't that.
And you know, I saw it in theater.
I also remember watching it in my friends.
It's so funny you ask that I don't have a memory of of where
I saw a lot of movies, but there's two movies that I've
always stood out. That's one of them.
I watched it in my friend's living room but his living room
was all windows and he lived in the woods and we watched it at
night and I was fucking terrified.

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And then scream. The first time I saw Scream was
in a camper with my cousin in the middle of fucking woods
camping and we watched Scream. Pass bad.
Job to you on both of those, Rob.
And it was terrifying. That's nightmare fuel bud.
That's keeping you away for days.
This is why I it's scarred. It's like burned itself into my
memory. Speaking of this, you had you
talked about in the last episodeyou went to the double feature

(30:08):
Sinners and whatever. Yeah.
Working man. Working man working.
Guy. Saw Sinners with no knowledge,
like I had seen a single shot. OK, I didn't watch a preview,
didn't know anything. And I was expecting Chicago
gangsters. I'm like, OK, it's a gangsters
movie or like Southern gangsters, let's call it that.

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And then all of a sudden I'm like, where the fuck did the
vampires come from? Yeah, it reminded me.
So that's when I saw From Dusk Till Dawn the first time.
I didn't know what that was, andI'd never seen a preview.
Same thing like that. You get an hour into the movie
and all of a sudden there's fucking vampires and you're
like, what the hell just happened?

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I love a movie like that. I love what?
You don't know what? What was yours, Doug?
Your Blair Witch experience. So it quote, UN quote, which was
took place in the woods about 30minutes from where I Yeah.
Maryland, right? Yeah.
There was an additional layer for for my my my friends and I.
But yeah, I saw at the theater totally bought in.

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I think when I left, I'm like, OK, if this had really happened,
like I hadn't heard about it, but I was still bought in.
But do you remember like there was all the like there was an
early website, you clicked on it.
There was like like they really did this whole sort of multi
dimensional marketing approach to it, which was really unheard

(31:33):
of so. And didn't it cost like 80 grand
and they made millions and millions?
Stocks. Cost like no money at all.
Yeah, even the marketing I don'tthink cost that much and
probably whoever distributed it probably put most of that money
into it. But like those websites and
stuff that wasn't that expensiveto do that stuff back then.
Like do you got? I own, I actually still own it.
I got rid of all my CDs, which Inow regret, but I kept all my

(31:56):
DVDs. So I have a big like 500 flip
thing of DVDs and I do own BlairWitch 2.
I don't know if you guys ever saw that.
Not good. Not good.
You know what? I was fun.
What I liked about that movie, though, is they put a bunch of
Easter eggs in it and it's fun to look for it.
So there's like, you know, like a door closes and the shadow of
the door is actually like a the face of like one of the fucking

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kids that was killed by the witch or something.
Like so they were even trying todo shit in the second movie to
like get people to like you haveto watch.
You have to find all the Easter eggs.
All right, here we go. We'll throw this out and then
we'll then we'll throw these pictures in there unless you got
more Doug, I mean they would youtry and keep these under 2 1/2
hours. Go ahead.
OK, good. I just want to throw this out
there. What's the best movie you've

(32:38):
seen recently? Probably is sinners.
I don't know how recently we want to.
Go. Yeah, there was a real lull for
a minute, but like, that's probably the the best thing I've
seen recently. It was flat sinners.
I think I liked I talked about it on the pod and now I can't.
Is the is it called the gorge the Anya Taylor Joy Miles Teller
movie? I liked that a lot.
That was good. I did not that that Speaking of

(33:00):
a turn, I did not know what was gonna happen in that movie and
that completely caught me off guard too.
In that movie. What happened?
I don't know if you guys have seen that, but.
I don't know if my spent my attention spans getting too
short but I keep seeing movies and being like that was 30
minutes too long. I feel I felt the same way about
Thinner Sinners. Sinners was 30 minutes too long
like. I thought Sinners was fantastic.

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And Speaking of music and movies, not that not that it's
this, but just that whole like Mississippi Delta Blues.
Totally, Yeah. That part was awesome, like
those shots with like the dancing and the and the Juke
like was rat were rat super cool.
So I loved it too. I would say for me that if you
guys haven't checked out black bag, it's Steven Soderbergh's

(33:44):
most recent kind of so it's an MI 5 and an MI 6 agent and they
they're married. It's.
It's. Awesome.
Really good. Really good.
All you had to say was MI and I'm in.
I don't care what number. Yeah, I'm down.
Give me a spy, yeah. Blair Witch Project original
budget was 35,000 to $60,000. The final cost was 200,000 and

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it made 248 million in the box office.
That's got to be the biggest, the biggest percentage return on
a movie of all time. It's got to be, well, you got to
adjust for inflation because there's some of the stuff for
like, I don't know, what are theOG Rocky cost like.
I feel like that was like nothing.
There's some stuff. I guess movies used to be
cheaper, but so are movie tickets and stuff though, right?

(34:29):
So like, all right, I'm going toread these rules real quick and
then we'll get into it. The speed version.
All right, got to start with thekiller opening track.
All the songs should flow smoothly from one to another,
Should have a good balance of genres, tempos and moods.
The mix tape should tell a story, convey an emotion.
Can't be too obvious, but can't be too obscure either.
Can't double up on songs by the same artist.
And the closing track should leave a lasting impression.

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I think that's the quickest you're going to get out of me.
That's pretty good. Ever done?
Not. Bad.
That's quick. You.
Want to go first, second or? 3rd cost 1.1 million to make and
gross 225 and the 225 million inthe box office so still.
Not even close. Yeah, so Blair Witch.
First, second or third. Doug, I'll.
Go third. Oh.
That means you're first on. Fucking AI feel like some of

(35:13):
mine are a little on the nose, but there's one specifically
that's on the nose but I can't pass it up and it's going to be
Try a Little Tenderness by Otis Redding.

(35:38):
And the movies Pretty in Pink when Ducky Ducky crashes into
the record store. It's it's so on the nose, but it
is such a fantastic, definable movie moment.
Great song, great actor, great movie, total coming of age
flick. Molly Ringwald was just the
starlet in the 80s. Well, plus you're Chicagoland

(35:59):
guy. Yeah.
Oh yeah, all those Brat pack movies had great soundtracks
dude. Led to great movie moments like
you could. You could pick at least one from
all of those Brat Pack era movies easily.
Yeah, but that one, that moment specifically, like as he as he
slides into the the record storeand then proceeds to lip sync

(36:20):
the song is just so fucking good.
And dances his this dance that he does too awkward like white
dude dance to Otis Redding. Yeah, he crushes.
It. Yeah, that's good.
I love it. Yeah.
You throw on any of those moviesand you're just going to be
happy. Like you're you're, you're going
to enjoy. There's 93 minutes of enjoyment
ahead of you. It's.
Like a warm hug? What's kind?

(36:40):
Of Crazy is like a lot of the Brat Pack movies.
Whereas you're absolutely right,Doug, it's going to be, you said
93 minutes of enjoyment. There was some pretty heavy shit
in some of those movies. Like then dealing with the like
with Molly Ringwald's mom leaving and the dad not really
coping with the very well and like him out of work.

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It's like this is heavy shit, you know?
I think. That's what makes those movies
so endearing. Those they're not just like
straight up comedy. Let's just make it laugh.
They're like, they are comedy with some drama and some it, it,
it's just like life. They're just just life.
And he, he, he crushed, you know, they crushed all those
movies. And now I want to go back and

(37:22):
watch. I watch all the Brat Pack movies
but it's a great. Rainy day Sunday, wait for your
rainy Sunday and I want you to go Brat Pack movies, right?
There we go. Oh, that's a good.
That's a good like like marathonmovie marathon thing would just.
Come in all hungover, Don't don't take Doug's advice to
drink water. Just fucking marathon A. 100%
yeah. Do you any any like sub theme

(37:45):
that you gave yourself this timeDon?
I didn't sub theme this one. I I should have put more time
and effort into it like I wantedto go.
I was thinking about doing all movies with imaginary bands.
Yeah, but that's that's got to be its own.
It's got to be its own. It has to be its own episode.
You're absolutely I. Already have that list.
I already have that list ready. I'm waiting.

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I just wanted to, I just wanted to sing Scotty doesn't know on
the microphone. By the band.
By the band Lustra, in case you're Lustra.
Yep. It's not pronounced luster.
No LUSTALUSTRA, Maybe Lustra. Lustra OK, Yeah, yeah, that
would be OK. No sub theme.

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I kind of did. You do it, did you?
Do it, Roderick. I tried and it kind of fell
apart in my 4th 1. I tried to like.
Well, what I found is when I wasre watching these, like I
started out with the like inextricably linked music and
movie scene in my head. I wrote all that stuff down.
Then I went back and watched allthose scenes and I found myself
being drawn to the songs that I was even just watching.

(38:49):
The scene on YouTube was having like a fist like either smile
like a big fucking smile on my face or fucking almost brought
to tears for like it's like. So I was like, oh, I can
probably do like just some different emotions here, like
cycle through the emotions of this.
So I kind of did, but it kind offalls apart in my 4th one.
Maybe, maybe we'll see if I can get a fourth emotion all.

(39:10):
Right, let's hear it. Well, but that's my question, Do
I start on the heavier side or do I start on the side?
Get the heavy out of the way. Let's keep.
The heavy out of the way. Keep the listeners roped in for
the whole episode. OK, well then starting on the
heavy, we're going Gary, Jules and Michael Andrews version of
Mad World from Donnie Darko. And I find it kind of funny.

(39:32):
I find it kind of sad. The dreams in which I'm dying
are the best I've ever had. I find it hard to tell you.
I find it hard to take. When people run in circles, it's
a very, very bad. There was a lot of people that

(39:58):
said Donnie Jericho had to be onthis when I was telling him the
theme. It's it's they do such a good
job. Well, for one, it just makes you
cry. It's the end scene where which
just saying this out loud is so weird.
But like when the fucking shouldwe say spoiler spoiler alerts If
you haven't seen him for the movie that's that came out 25
years ago. Spoiler alert.
Yeah, when the spoiler engine crashes through the house and

(40:19):
kills him, whatever. And that's the song playing.
Like that's showing all the different characters that like
in bed that night, none of them are sleeping.
They'll have their shit going on.
And then it cuts to like, it's just very sad.
And I love how they also bookended it with like the
beginning of the movie. There's the Tears For Fears
song, Head over heels plays during like the high school

(40:40):
hallway scene and like things are more upbeat.
And then they bookend it at the other end with another Tears For
Fears song. That's.
Killing fields, right? Isn't that the big one?
There's like 4 tears for fear songs in this movie, but and
then at the very end when who's the I'm so bad with names and
you guys are both so good with names, but who's his like love

(41:00):
interest in Donnie Darko? What's your name?
I don't fucking remember. Jenna.
Jenna Malone. Yeah.
Is that her name in the movie oris that the actress?
No, that's the actor, the actress name.
I've got it. The very end when, like, his mom
is standing there chain smoking because her son just died.
And she just, like, waves at Jenna Malone.

(41:20):
Jenna Malone just waves at her. I don't know why that wave is so
fucking. It just, like, crushes me.
Every absolutely crushes me. And it's Yeah.
And the song is just really gorgeous and haunting and sad
and I can't hear it. I can't even hear the regular
version of it, the non cover version, without thinking of
Donnie Darko. No, thinking of that silver
rabbit mask. Yeah.

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So there you go. Sad one, sad one out the way.
Yeah, I'm glad that we went thisdirection.
I think it was important to get to sandshine all the way first.
Great call. Good.
Great movie, been a minute for me.
Gotta check it out again. It was so.
Huge though. Remember when it came out, it
was so. Big.
And it. Was big.
It was an independent film too. And so that was a big deal for
like it was a high budget independent film with like some

(42:02):
stars in it, but it was an independent film.
It wasn't in a major studio picture.
And like, that was the era of that.
Like you had the Donnie Darko's and the Requiem for a Dreams and
these movies that were indie movies that were just
incredible. These great directors that are
now, you know, we consider out talk tours, but they were like
nobody's back then making movies.

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This is this guy's first movie too.
Richard Kelly. Dang all.
Right, Dave, what you got? I had thought about a theme and
I tried to do it. I failed, mainly just because I
didn't, mainly because I didn't like the songs.
Like I had it, I had it all mapped out.
I was gonna go montages, okay, and just do all undo all

(42:45):
different montages. But I have to say, even though
montages are amazing, most of the music to put on a playlist
not great. Yeah, you're Eye of the Tigers
great in the moment. Yeah, yeah, right.
Like so I, I veered away from that.
I am gonna start. Technically that one I just
picked is the montage. I guess it's like scene, scene,
the scene. I mean, they're not all like,

(43:06):
they're not all like sports, youknow?
No, no, no. Yeah, there's, yeah, I had a
whole bunch of different ones. The Scarface one was was one I I
had to build around and. Yeah.
Because he's, because he's counting money smoking like big
cigars on the last thing about, you know, selling cocaine in
Miami in the 80s. All right, I'm gonna go with

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probably the most important scene in my opinion in movie
history from a from a Jesus. Christ, yeah, putting it out
there all. Right in my opinion my my humble
opinion. But this has always stuck with
me, not just because of the song.
I hope it's like, I hope it's like the first pitch in Rookie

(43:48):
of the Year or something like sofucking obscure.
Like something like when? Yeah, alright, let's hear we
got. Go ahead.
What's second guess? What's your second guess?
It's not Rookie of the Year. What do you got?
First guess is Rookie of the Year.
It's got to be like the scene where the Statue of Liberty
walks in Ghostbusters 2. You know, I, I, I knew you were

(44:09):
the most like the most. Iconic.
The most. The most important.
Yeah, the. Most important scene in movie
history? That's what I think Doug is
going. To go now, we're going to go a
little movie called Get Goodfellas.
We're going to go with Martin Scorsese's infamous Warner,
where Karen and Henry are walking into the Copacabana and

(44:29):
And then he kissed me by the crystals.
His play. And it's an iconic movie shot.

(44:58):
It's one of the most difficult shots, I guess I've ever done.
It's Scorsese. It's Ray Leona at his peak.
It's also sort of hilarious because, you know, Ray Liotta is
just lying through his teeth forthis poor woman.
You know, she doesn't know what's going on.
He's taking her through the kitchen.
You know, he sees the the couplemaking out every time you 2
every time, right? And they sit down at the table.

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Just what do you do for a living?
Because I'm in construction. So you don't have the hands of
a. Construction where?
You delegate like just like it'sfunny and it's also this.
I will say that there is a bit of a theme in my in my pics.
It's like where I love music andhow it's used.
It's like a great song right before the ship breaks down,
right? And so like, that's the highest

(45:40):
of highs for Henry. He's got Karen on his arm.
He's on top of the world. The life of the gangster is just
absolutely perfect for him. And then kind of after this
thing start to things start to digress.
A. Hell of a soundtrack,
Goodfellas. Like, I mean, there's probably a
couple other moments in this that could make the list too,
but just such a good mix of likeclassic Italian songs.

(46:03):
But then also there's like old doop classics all over the
place. Leader.
Well, then leader of the pack and stuff is in that, right?
And I can't remember but. Well, yeah, Layla and the, and
the, again, one of one of what would have been the murder
montage for me would be the Layla, Derek and the Dominoes
scene where they're finding all the bodies.
But then he switches and of course you get Rolling Stones

(46:24):
'cause it's Martin Scorsese. And you know, so it's just,
yeah, that thing that that soundtrack goes.
For for sure. Great call.
Yeah, Goodfellows, right off, right off the clip for Doug.
All right. Yep.
Good one. Had to go a little little
mainstream. Nothing wrong with that.
Yeah, not at all. What you got done?
My, I think I, you know, you have people ask you your
favorite movie of all time, which is an impossible question

(46:45):
to answer seriously. You guys kind of approach it
from like a top five perspectiveand this movie will fall into my
top five every single time. And the movie is The Big
Lebowski, and the song is just dropped in by the Gambler
himself, Kenny Rogers. I found my mind in a brown paper
peg, but then I tripped down a cloud and fell 8 miles high.

(47:13):
I told my man on a jagged sky. I just dropped in to see what
condition my condition was in. If you want to talk about a
great montage of the the weird dream sequence when the dude is

(47:33):
when the dude is drinking whatever Jackie Treehorn gave
him, that's one of those momentsthat's just fucking fantastic
with like the the choreography, the bowling.
This it was this was it. Like one of my first picks of
other songs that had to make it onto the list was just dropped
in to see what condition my condition was in.
By the by Kenny Rogers and a cool fucking Kenny Rogers.

(47:55):
Like way pre gambler. Yeah, like this was more like
it's a great song. Yeah, it's a great.
Song. I'm not sure I actually knew
that was Kenny Rogers. That's that song.
I don't think I would have guessed that.
That's what it seems too cool for Kenny Rogers.
Seems too cool for Kenny Rogers.Like it was way before he went
like full blown country when he was.
Country. Yeah.

(48:15):
Before before rotisserie chickens were involved.
I mean that no problem there. You can still see what condition
your conditions was in Kentucky.Heart heart condition your heart
condition your hearts in after eating some of that.
Real quick, there was a guy in Philly maybe like 2 years ago
and Philly's got a bunch of Piers off off on the river and

(48:36):
every day for 30 days straight he went to one of the Piers and
ate an entire rotisserie chicken.
OK, And he started his only media or like marketing was he
would put Flyers up all over thecity, meet me at this time,
watched me at a whole rotisseriechicken and the crowd built and
built and built. And then when he got the 30th
day, it was like a beautiful dayin Philly out, and there was

(48:58):
like 500 people to watch this guy eat his 30th rotisserie.
Bro, if you have 5 minutes, it'shilarious.
Yeah. So it's great.
But yeah, Big Lebowski, one of my top five favorite movies of
all time. Would you take offense, because
I don't mean this in an offensive way, but would you
take offense to somebody saying that you strike me as a Big
Lebowski guy? What about me does so I don't

(49:21):
take offense, but if you say something stupid, I'm going to.
No, no, no, it's I, it's, it's not.
It's like, I know you like it feels like people who love Big
Lebowski are people who can and love to quote movies that
remember like you know what I'm saying?
You're. A.
Big quote, Guy. And it's not, yeah, not even
just that movie, but like any, like everybody I know who loves
Big Lebowski are is that type ofperson who could quote so many

(49:45):
great lines from all their favorite movies and they can
name stuff like this, like the songs that play at these certain
times. There's something about that
movie that like a lot of like, Iguess to Doug's point, like
Cinephiles, but more like, I don't know how to explain it.
What's crazy is like, I considermyself like, I'm not AP one big
Lebowski fan. It's one of my top five favorite
movies, but there are people like there's a Big Lebowski

(50:05):
Fest, but like someone like I. Was gonna ask if you've been.
I've never been. Have you?
Have you? I've been one in Buffalo, NY
with Turner. We all got dressed up.
It was awesome. Do you do?
The bathrobe or. Yeah, I went bathrobe.
Yeah, but like there's like a Lebowski Fest.
I had a friend back in the day that a number of people would
know named Ben Grescott who wentso deep down the rabbit hole

(50:29):
that he like obviously when movies are like in pre
production, they like write stories about the characters.
So they they know who they're supposed to be when it comes
time to play the role of the movie.
And like, he can tell you everyone's story as who the
character they are in the movie of what their background was
that led him there. Like how Walter owned a security

(50:50):
company prior. And that's why he has the stuff
like, you know, has the Uzi whenhe goes to fall out of the car.
Like he he can tell you what thewhole story was.
He is a Big Lebowski fan, pun pun intended, A big.
Big. One, yeah.
It just came out, not not necessarily movie news, but it
was just music news, but movie news.

(51:11):
It was just released the other day that Jeff Bridges agrees
with the fan theory that Donnie is dead for the whole movie.
I was just looking that up. I was like, I just watched an
interview with him where he was like, I actually kind of buy
into that fan theory and I was trying to remember what the
theory was. That's what it is.
Donnie is dead through the wholemovie because he's the only one
that ref. He never says his name or
something like that. Or he only says his name once.

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But yeah, there's like a fan theory that Donnie's dead.
There was, and I don't remember.You can and watch the interview
online, but Jeff Bridges was like, there's only one scene in
the movie where that kind of falls apart and he named the
scene. He's like, that kind of breaks
that theory a bit. But I do like that theory that
he's dead. It's interesting.
All right, so the emotion behindmy first pick of sadness, I'm

(51:57):
going to get I if you thought there was just one heavy one on
my list, you don't know me very well.
So I'm going to get the other heavy one out of the way.
This one would be like fear or scared.
Like this is like a scared straight kind of thing, but like
this scene makes my makes me feel uncomfortable and it's
that's what it's supposed to do your T.
Shirt on backwards a. Little bit and to your earlier

(52:17):
call out, Doug, I think this might be one of the most
beautifully shot and hauntingly shot scenes in all of film
history. It's up there, probably top 10
for me. It's not top five, but it's the
scene in Trainspotting when he ODS and he just sinks into the
floor and it becomes like his his grave, but the carpets all
around him and Lou Reed's perfect day is playing.

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Just a perfect day. You made me forget myself.
I thought I was someone else, someone good.

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Which just as a song is unbelievably, the lyrics are
about like a perfect day. It's like, hey, this is a
perfect day. I'm happy to be spending it with
you. Here's all the things we did
today. But then, but the song itself is
haunting. It's a haunting song.
And so then there's this moment where he O DS and it's
terrifying and the the process of getting him to the hospital.

(53:31):
They don't just call an ambulance, right.
His dealer drags him to the curband gets a cab to take him to
the hospital and shit. And like and it keeps switching
back between like you seeing what happening and then like his
first person perspective, like laying sunken in to the ground
essential. I don't know, it's just it's
just beautiful. And this idea that that is kind
of his perfect day too, which isreally fucked up, but that he's

(53:53):
an addict and like that's that'swhat he wants to be doing.
And they just took it too far this time.
And that's one of those movies that's a great fucking movie,
but maybe can watch it once a decade.
Like you know what I mean that. Way about I feel that way about
Requiem for a Dream a. 100% dudeI haven't seen Requiem and Dream
for probably 20 years because I'm like you can't watch it.

(54:15):
One and done kind of situation. Yeah, and it was incredible.
I remember after I watched Requiem for a Dream and
Trainspotting both, I was like, I can tell I just watched
something incredible and like moving and beautifully shot and
incredibly acted and all these things.
But I don't want to watch that again like.
Yeah, I think when you takes a topic like addiction and you put

(54:38):
amazing writing direction and acting to it, I don't know that
there's a better kind of symbiosis.
However, you just can't. You can't, I mean, think about
like a leaving Las Vegas. Like, I've probably seen it
maybe twice. I've definitely seen it once,
maybe a second time. An amazing movie.
Yeah. It's the portrait of someone

(54:59):
killing themselves. I mean, how many times can you
watch them like that? But yeah, Requiem, when you're
that like last what, 20 minutes?Too much.
I just like. I can't.
It's still, it's still ingrainedin my head.
I'm picturing her right now. I don't want to be it's rough,
but they're originally I was going to actually go with the
lust for life, the opening of Trainspotting when they're when
they're being chased and it's, you know, it's is that a Stooges

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song or is that just a Iggy or not Iggy?
Yeah, Iggy Pop. Is it him solo?
I don't whatever, whoever song that is, but I went back and
watched it. It's him by himself.
OK, I went back and watched it. I remember that being just
almost just full on keep hittingmy mic, full on music and
visuals like. But when I go back and watch it,

(55:44):
it's a lot of like the main characters setting up the
exposition for the movie and talking over it a lot.
And I don't remember that. And I was like, I actually don't
really like this scene as much. Yeah, it's.
Prepping a bit for this episode,I think one of the harder
distinctions I had was like movie soundtracks versus music

(56:05):
in movies, movie moments, right?I mean, there's, you know, we're
all kids of the 90s. Like the soundtrack was a really
important way to find new artists to explore tastes a
little bit. You know, you, you heard a song
that you liked or that you knew maybe in a, in a trailer or
something, right. And, and, and often times I

(56:25):
would get the CD before I saw the movie and that would cause
you to like start to go like, okay, what's this?
What's that? And and kind of peak your
curiosity around like the exploration of music.
This is tough because. I want to talk about so many
soundtracks but like I don't want to like.
You're going to have actually. Steal.

(56:46):
Yeah, I don't want to steal anybody's.
I also don't want to steal anybody's picks in case they
were moments. But like, I mean, you can't talk
about reality bites, you know? Reality Bites.
It's a top like 5 soundtrack. You can't.
Talk about it, you know? Yeah, for sure.
Yeah. But.
Yeah, but like that's a good example though.
Like there's, there's probably acouple great moments in that
movie that could be on this list, but for the most part,

(57:06):
there's a lot of great music playing.
It's a part of the movie. Like it's, it's just.
It's not really. Well, but the music doesn't
always hit. There's there's a couple moments
in that, right? Like I'm trying to think it's, I
actually just watched that movielike a year ago, so.
For the first time, no. No, no, not for the.
First time but like it's just rewatched.
Rewatched it, yeah great example.
Or like fucking Empire Records is a great fucking soundtrack.

(57:28):
But. But even like even in like the
the realm of kind of like B movies, do you remember that
movie Hurricane Streets? Nope, it's a pretty forgettable
movie, just about like young kids going through it or
whatever. But Marcy's playground sex and
candy was the trailer song for it, which was like, I just have

(57:49):
such a such a visceral memory ofseeing that trailer like a death
song's epic going down like a Marcy's playground rabbit hole.
As a whenever 15 year old, seeing the movie me like this is
interesting, but it's nothing like amazing but but like it did
it did you know, force you to kind of go explore a bit, which
I loved. It is interesting, like the

(58:10):
trailers have the the great songin them too, and sometimes those
songs aren't even in the movie, they're just in the trailers.
Well, you know what one of my favorite examples of that is is
Social Network. Does that the choir singing
creep? For the trailer.
For the trailer and it's like I I I'd just keep watching this on
loop if I could. But yeah, all right, Doug's

(58:31):
second pick. Doug's turn.
All right, it's my turn. All right, I went, I went
mainstream. I'll go a little, I'll go a
little subvert, subversive, I guess.
So again, I guess if there was atheme for me here, it's it's the
moment when things start to change.
And one of my favorite movies probably from like age, I don't
know, whatever, whenever it cameout of 3/22/23 to probably 30

(58:56):
was layer cake. And there is a scene when Daniel
Craig, who's playing this in themain characters, I believe his
actual name is like XXXXX on theon the credits, but he's
unnamed. He's this meticulous drug
dealer. He's got a plan.
You know, he yeah, he sells drugs, but that's the only risk
he takes. And he's sitting in a London

(59:20):
kind of house music club, and he's talking this another guy in
the business or in the life. And his girl is Sienna Miller
dancing on the dance floor to the Source featuring Candy
Stanton. You've got the love.

(01:00:01):
Oh my God. I mean, she's dancing, she's
smoking a cigarette in a club, which is like very, you know,
late 90s and he's just locked onher.
And from that point on, he continued, he just starts the
the the slippery slope of bad decisions start in the movie
unwraps and amazing scene. Amazing shot, amazing song.

(01:00:25):
Anytime you can put a groovy kind of house beat to some
disco, I'm probably in crushes. Great movie.
I believe I own that movie. So I've seen it quite a few
times. I went through that was in my
that fit in my like realm of, you know, I would watch Lock
Stock and Two Smoking Barrels and a cake and Snatch and

(01:00:49):
Memento on fucking repeat. That was like my comfort zone at
that age too, Doug. It was like if I'm bored or if I
need to, if the world's stressing me out and I just need
to drop out for a little bit, I would just go right to one of
those. One of those movies did read the
book Layer Cake. Very different from the movie.
I don't know if you've ever readthe book, but it was good.

(01:01:11):
But I wouldn't read it because the movie's better in my
opinion. And if you love the movie, just
stick with the movie. You don't need to read the book.
I love the movie. I went about a year ago.
I rewatched it and I was a little nervous, you know, like
one of those where I'm like, I hadn't seen them.
I don't know, seven or eight years.
I'm like, this is going to hold up.
Jesus Christ. It goes like it.
I mean, start to finish, The thing is like a adrenaline shot

(01:01:33):
to the heart and it shot beautifully.
It's low budget, great soundtrack in general, but that
song really stands out. And Sienna Miller in 2002,
dancing in the club. And I'm I'm here for it.
My turn. Yeah, my turn.
Yeah, Yep. How many do I have left 2?
Yep. Shit.

(01:01:55):
OK, then I'm gonna do Is there amovie that you guys can
confidently say that you've seenmore times than any other movie?
Yes, yes. What's the movie for you, Doug?
It's. Probably heat which I
referenced. Earlier OK, Roderick, what's the
movie you've seen more than any other movie?
I'm going to, I'm picking a songfrom it later, so I'll kind of,
I'll give you my second most. I'll give you my second most.
It'll be O brother, where art thou?

(01:02:15):
OK. The movie for for whatever
reason that I've seen more than any other movie, is Wayne's
World and the and the song is Feed My Frankenstein by Alice
Cooper. Oh, you're not going.

(01:02:47):
You're not going to car seat. Bohemian.
You're not going to. Fucking.
Way. No way.
I'm going Yeah, Which is Algonquin for the good land.
In fact, isn't Milwaukee an Indian name?
Pete. Yes, Pete it is.
But yeah, Feed My Frankenstein by Alice Cooper when they're
driving to Milwaukee and Alice Cooper's not old and weird yet.

(01:03:08):
Well, I mean, yeah, it's old andweird, but like, you know, such
a hysterical moment. When?
Certainly weird when they get enough money to go or they get
like the passes to go see Alice Cooper in Milwaukee.
Just an iconic movie moment. So fucking funny.
You can see the giant stage propof the skeleton on the stage in
Wayne's World and you know the. Backstage passes.

(01:03:28):
The backstage passes for sure. And that's just one of those
movie moments that just sticks with me for forever.
Own the soundtrack for sure. Didn't go Bohemian Rhapsody
though. Although iconic movie moment a
little too easy. Yeah, sure, I get it.
Believe me. I thought about it and I had the
same. I had the same thought.
Yeah. Same.
Yep, so but Feed my Frankensteinis definitely the one for me.

(01:03:51):
I can, I can. I'm hearing it in my head right
now. Yeah.
All drum fill, yeah. I think the drummer is the
drummer rotating in the movie, Ican't remember.
I love Alice Cooper in that movie though.
Oh, he's so good. Hell of a golfer if you guys
didn't know that. Alice Cooper.
Alice Cooper is like a very talented golfer.
It's. Good to know.

(01:04:12):
He. Plays golf in his in his makeup.
I hope he does. I can probably walk through that
movie scene by scene with most of it memorized.
Most of it just as how many times I've seen the movie.
Wayne's role. What's your Wayne's role to
take? Oh, I love it.
Absolutely fantastic. I mean, it's a better version of

(01:04:32):
the Doors. It's my first.
Yeah, that's fair. Isn't that the whole joke?
Like, isn't that the joke of thewhole movie?
Like when he goes to meet Jim Morrison to put on that rock
concert? Yeah.
They did a better job than Oliver Stone.
Yeah, totally. Don't who played who played Jim
Morrison in that movie? An absolute nobody.
Nobody. Just some dude that looked like
Jim Morrison A. Little bit.

(01:04:53):
He looked a little bit like Jim Morrison.
But yeah, I love, love Wayne's World Two.
Wayne's World One is obviously the superior, but Wayne's World
2 is also fantastic. Christopher Watkins and Wayne's
World Two, a lot of guys, girlfriends are in there.
I think I've only seen Wayne's World Two.
I've probably seen it a handful of times, yeah.
I was enjoying. When I was growing up actually
right near you, Roderick is Kings Dominion, which I really

(01:05:16):
still is but at one point was owned by Paramount.
Still is, I believe. Yeah.
And so. Like Kings Island, Great.
If you've ever been to Kings Island, you know, like.
Roller coasters and shit. Yeah, yeah, coasters.
Yeah, like Sister outright Parks.
Yeah. Like a, like a like a poor man's
universal right and six. Flags Six Flags Great America.

(01:05:37):
But with movie money behind it, right?
So just Paramount, just Paramount movies or
subsidiaries? Paramount movies.
So there's like a Top Gun right at the one in Ohio.
I don't know if there was one here, Doug, but like, yes.
So the one in in outside of Richmond at one point opened an
entire Wayne's World land. So you got to go.
You went on The Hurler, you got to eat a Stan Makita's Donuts

(01:05:59):
like you, just like you did the whole thing, which was rad.
Pertinent to this podcast, they also had probably my favorite
ride of all time. It wasn't the scariest, but in
the early 90s they opened Days of Thunder, the ride in 4D
chairs and you went into a theater.
In. Virginia in Virginia, and it was

(01:06:22):
the final scene where they're running that track and cold
trickle, you know, he always goes high.
Yeah, Nope. He went low and he took the
trekked flag. I just.
Recently experienced that listenlisten to the rewatchables that
talked about that movie. Fantastic.
It's so good. So that's another movie.

(01:06:42):
I remember where I was when I saw The Days of Thunder.
Like I remember the room I was in.
Dang. I don't remember whose house it
was though, but for some reason I remember that too.
I don't know why. Why, why?
It's not that great of a movie. Why do I have that memory?
Of a. Movie.
It's the keep it that great. Of a movie.
It's it's Top Gun in cars. It is Top Gun in cars.
I think that's it's there was a while where Tom Cruise was just

(01:07:04):
making the same movie and over and over just a different like
it. Was great he should and he's
still doing that there's he's. Still.
Doing it I. Know there's another one coming
out? Yeah, yeah, that's what he does.
Guess what? If you got a good formula, you
stick with it. Best.
This isn't true because Top Gunsgreat and some of the other
movies are great, but I do love his character in Tropic Thunder

(01:07:27):
when he's dancing to that flow. Ride a song.
When he's self aware, he's the fucking best, right?
Like when his self-awareness is like all time high, like he's
the he's the best do. You think he can be self aware
about where David Miscavige his wife is?
What I don't get this? That's a bummer because David
Miscavige is the head of the Church of Scientology.

(01:07:48):
Wow. That's why I don't get this.
Yeah, well, Tom, we know Tom Cruise is a big Scientologist,
right? Oh well, obviously we know that,
but I just didn't know that nameyou.
Guys don't know that David Miscavige's wife is like, openly
missing for years. No, I did not know this.
All right, added all the time, then, Rodrick.
It's all, it's all that's all creepy.
Yeah, You're gonna go missing now.
Edit it all out. Yeah, I don't wanna go.

(01:08:09):
Missing careful. Dog careful edit it careful bud.
Edit it all out. You don't want this on the
Internet. Edit out.
All right, my turn, going to go light right now.
How you feeling? Donnie Darko or.
First time I. Dope scenes.
You want to do the psych? We're going Requiem for a dream,
no? Kevin Spacey kills himself and

(01:08:31):
almost famine and Nope. No, we're going.
Clewing 10. We're going.
We're going. Kevin Spacey almost kills.
Himself. Cruel intentions?
Is that what I? No, I no, I was totally
different topics. I'm going cruel intentions.
No, I'm not actually. No, this was this was in high
school laughing my ass off because at the time this was the

(01:08:51):
funniest shit ever. It's a Jerky Boys movie.
It's not, but it's a Mike. It's a Mike Judge movie, and I
was a big fan of Mike Judge. It's the fucking office space
scene with the printer scene. So it's it's still by the still
by the Ghetto Boys. He didn't know that every dog
had his day until he seen his. I bet you motherfuckers will

(01:09:15):
too. So it like that that whole
character's well, First off, that scene's just fantastic.
Like is a mirror that that dude's name, that the the actual

(01:09:38):
vitriol and anger in his face ashe's beating that printer up
felt like real life personal, you know what I mean?
Like it felt like this isn't acting.
You're taking some real aggression out here.
And then yeah, I'm so bad with characters names.
But yeah, like the the nerdy dude who's always like who's way
into super hardcore gangster raptaking the butt take Michael

(01:10:00):
Bolton. Thank you.
Taking the fucking butt of the baseball, just beating the shit
out of that thing. And Ron Livingstons character
just doesn't actually beat up the printer at all.
He just stands back and watches his two homies like I did.
He did that for him. You know, he's like, we're gonna
fucking do this thing. Just stands back.
Let's him beat the shit out of that that copier copier printer.

(01:10:21):
Absolutely iconic pick around and that seems great.
What I remember about that movieis the Drew Carey's Neighbor
from the Drew Carey Show that plays Ron Livingston's
neighbors. Neighbor with the paper.
Thin walls. Can hear everything and like
just have conversations yeah. With this fantastic mustache,
don't. Worry he's don't worry, he's

(01:10:42):
cool. Yeah, yeah, yeah, he's great.
And by the end of the movie, they're like legit homies too.
Like, at first it's kind of weird.
It's like his weird neighbor. I mean, they're, I guess they're
friends from the beginning. But by the end, like, you love
him too. You're like, oh, this guy's a
homie. This guy's this guy rides.
Yeah, man, I don't know. It's just, it's just a great
scene. I had a friend that worked at
the movie theater when this cameout and they there was these

(01:11:07):
like Oval, like white Oval things that would hang from the
ceiling on one side and set office space and the other side
just said work sucks. And they like hung from the
ceiling. So they like, you know, they
kind of spin around. Yeah, it's just, yeah, some kind
of like BOP and I, I got, he gave me one like when they took
that stuff down and just you felt so cool.

(01:11:28):
Having a big work sucks sign in your bedroom as a little high
schooler, like just I'm the fucking coolest.
Work sucks. My job at the coffee shop is so
hard. Turns out, turns out they're
right. Yeah, turns out OK.
True. Wait a minute, am I OK?
So what was the restaurant that they were going to?
Well, not shenanigans is. Shenanigans is a different

(01:11:50):
movie. That's the one with Shenanigans.
Super troopers, Super troopers? But don't they go to
shenanigans? Is it hooligans, hooligans or
hooligans or something? Hooligans.
It is tchotchkes. Tchotchkes.
It's called Tchotchkes, The flair.
Yeah, the the scene where the fucking scene where Jennifer
Aniston flips off her boss in like dips.

(01:12:13):
So fucking good. What?
Was the restaurant that they worked at in waiting?
Well, let's see what the Google Machine says.
Another funny ass movie. That's a great movie.
I thought that. I thought that was shenanigans.
But that thing is, that's shenanigans.
It is, shenanigans, it is. Waiting like a spin off of Super
Troopers. Always.
Do they exist in the same universe?

(01:12:34):
It's Ryan Reynolds and and fucking the Super trooper cops
like they live in the same universe.
That's amazing. It is, it is, it is the same.
You guys are right, It is. It is the same name of the
restaurant. Hey, hey Farva, what's that
place you like with all the goofy shit on the?
Walls. If one more person says
shenanigans, I'm going to pistolwhip them.

(01:12:56):
All over the. World they must be.
Oh, you mean shenanigans? Oh sorry, real real quick
shenanigans. Ends with AZ and waiting and
ends with an S different. Universes multi.
Yeah, I'm not a multiverse. Sorry.
All right. I got some decisions to make
here. We're getting a decision time.

(01:13:19):
I am going to pick my favorite opening scene of all time and
that is the movie Belly and it is a song called Back to Life by
Soul to Soul with Kara Wheeler. Cold fresh air, film, melody

(01:13:40):
that's in the air. I'm down.
Take a look around. What's going down?

(01:14:00):
So it is Nas, DMX and a couple of their their pals popping out
of a car in in New York to go rob a strip club and they walk
in slow MO to just this like epic acapella.
It's it's the coolest shit I've ever seen in my entire life.
And then the DJ kicks in, you get a little bop, bop, bop, bop,

(01:14:23):
bop, and then and then it takes off from there.
The movie just goes from that point on.
Hype. Williams knows how to make a
make make a movie. He certainly knows how to put
music to a movie. Although Nas and DMX aren't the
greatest actors, it's a top ten movie of all time for me so I

(01:14:44):
haven't. Seen this movie in so long I
forgot about this movie Doug. Go even if you just watch the
opening scene I mean watch the whole movie if you have the time
but the opening scene and they it's just it's it's a bunch of
dudes looking cool doing crimes which I'm always in on move from

(01:15:04):
a movie perspective yeah in. Real life, you're not doing any
crimes, Doug. Let's be honest.
There's no crimes you're doing. I'm a 43 year old parent.
I don't. I don't do any crimes.
Oh yeah, sorry. That's what I meant to say
earlier Dawn in the intro when you asked what what my hobbies
are doing Crimes. I forgot what your hobbies are.

(01:15:25):
Yeah, I forgot to mention that with with dope music playing in
my ear, in my. But a buddy that used to open a
his DJ set with that vinyl and it's, it's just this like drawn
out acapella and then goes into not necessarily hip hop, but
like some, some DJ influence, like, you know, vibes and then

(01:15:47):
they start killing people and robbing and then.
Yeah, killing and robbing. Yeah, doing crimes.
Doing crimes. Oh yeah, I forgot method.
Man was in this too. Oh, cheese.
Oh no, cheese is the wire, but yeah.
Method man's a good, pretty goodactor.
Cheese. Best best rapper actor Best best
actor who's a rapper is. It a question or you're saying

(01:16:09):
Method Man is that person? That's a question question
posing that out there as a curious what you guys think?
I mean, ice cubes got to be in the running, right?
Probably. Maybe early on Fridays, like
Friday, Yeah. First couple of movies, not any
nobody wants to watch ride along.
Fair. I think Yasin Bay.
I think Yasin no Steph, right? Fucking Lauren Hill.

(01:16:33):
Lauren Hill's good. Sister Act 2 correct?
Back in the habit. Is that the only movie she's
ever been in? No.
She's been in movies, She's great.
I'm sure she's been in other movies.
I know I'm a big Yasin Bay fan. That's like what?
What else You been in Hitchhikers?
Yeah, watch. Please be kind and rewind with
him. Oh so good.
Him and Jack Black. Oh my God.

(01:16:55):
I also own that movie. I I should pull out my DVD
collection apparently. Doug's, Doug's in the market for
some. So maybe you got a 4K so no.
No, only 4K four. K.
Hopefully you got a 4K. Stand in there.
And only from pawn shops, Donnie.
My whole thing is when I go to acity from travel shops, pawn
shops. I want to pick isn't my last

(01:17:15):
pick. I want to pick is your last
pick. I want to pick 4 picks for my
last pick. You can't.
That's. Not allowed.
Earlier when I was talking abouthow Kevin Spacey killed himself
at the end, Almost Famous, he didn't.
He killed himself at the end of American Beauty, and I think he
kills himself. He gets killed by the
neighbour's dad. But the scene in Almost Famous
where they're riding on the bus and Tiny Dancer comes on by

(01:17:37):
Elton John. Yeah.
Blue Jean baby LA laid in seamstress for the banging
pretty eye pirate smile. You married music man.

(01:18:05):
Yep, I'm assuming that was on everybody's list.
It was on my list. It was it was a potential 4th
pick for me. So I'm not going to say direct
steal, but a potential. Yeah, for sure.
That would have been a game timedecision.
It's a great fucking scene. It's a great fucking movie.
Like, that's a great movie. Yeah, it's a great fucking
movie. But yeah, that that is a very
iconic movie moment. That whole movie is full of

(01:18:26):
musical iconic movie moments. That's the most iconic in the
movie though, I think like the whole bus starts to sing and
like everything is good for for two minutes while they're
singing that song. Like that's, that's the most
iconic. Or when Stillwater plays Fever
Dog. The thing, yeah, But the thing
that's cool about the bus scene,it's great.

(01:18:47):
The. Thing that's great about that
scene on the bus is that, and that this is an interesting one,
'cause I even debated, I was like, do I want to pick songs
where it's not just the song playing, 'cause there's a lot of
iconic moments where people singing a song makes the moments
like in this one. And I kind of steered away from
those except for this one because this is different.
Like the song comes on in the bus.

(01:19:08):
That's what triggers them to allsing.
It's not like somebody in the movie is covering the song, if
that makes sense. It's like it is because of the
song coming on in the bus. So yeah, this was on.
This was on my list for sure. Yeah, it's.
Also been a while since I've seen Almost Famous Mint.
It's been a while since I've seen it as well, but I feel like
it's still fantastic. Young Zoe.
Zoe Deschanel on that one. Just a lot of great actors.

(01:19:31):
Ton of great actors. Jason Leigh.
Jimmy Fallon. Leigh's in it.
Jason Leigh in that movie. Yeah, Teddy, the answer?
Elton John almost famous iconic movie moment.
I mean, yeah, iconic. Yeah, I feel.
Like it was an easy one, but like I couldn't deny it.
It's too easy, but. I wasn't gonna.
Yeah, but this is. But this is the hard thing about
this topic. It's like you're gonna ignore

(01:19:52):
the most important ones. Yeah, just to be obscure, right?
Like you have to, you have to jump on it and you have to
balance. Yeah, I feel good about it.
Well, making making a trying to choose my This was always going
to be a last minute decision because I've got so many on
here. But honestly, I think I'm just
going to go with I think this ismaybe my favorite movie.

(01:20:15):
If you had made of all to chooseof all time and I'm I'm not a.
Big like can't wait to judge. I cannot wait to.
Judge Oh, you're gonna. You're totally fast.
From the sidelines, you got to go.
Totally get your. Cards ready Get your cards
ready. You got your favorite movie Get.
Your cards ready, Doug, Your. Cards ready.
I don't know that like I can saya favorite.
Movie. You don't know, like it's my
favorite movie. You said this is.

(01:20:36):
I said I think it's my favorite movie.
This is the movie I've seen the most.
To answer Don's question earlier, it's the movie you've
definitely seen the most. If it's if it's on TV in a hotel
room somewhere, I'm fucking watching it.
I own it. Grease 2.
Multiple mediums, Steven Soderbergh, Ocean's 11.
It's just a fucking fun movie. Oh yeah, all.

(01:20:58):
Right. Great fucking soundtrack.
Are you on Bellagio scene? Are you on Bellagio?
Scene I'm going, I'm going, Elvis.
A little less conversation. This conversation, a little more
action, all this aggravation ain't satisfaction in me.

(01:21:18):
A little more fine, a little less fine, a little less fine, a
little more smart. Close your mouth and open up
your heart and maybe satisfy me.It just set the whole tone.
I I don't know this for sure, but I think whoever the music,
it might have been Soderbergh himself.
I'm not sure if there was a music director on this or if he

(01:21:39):
did it, but it feels like that song was like, well, we're going
to have this song on there and that's going to kick out all the
music for the rest of this this movie, because it's all the same
vibe. It's all that like overly hip,
like soul adjacent Vegas stuff. It's so good.
And honestly, Ocean's 12 might even have a better soundtrack
because it's got all like the French like twist on it, but

(01:22:02):
that's a that's a different conversation.
Ocean's 11. Fantastic fun movie, I could
watch it on repeat. Rod Rod.
I watched it last week because it was one of the one of the
handful of movies I had downloaded on my iPad when we
were in Winthrop with no service.
It is an absolute top ten movie.No card.
No cards. The ball, no cards.

(01:22:23):
No cards. If I had because I don't have a
green card, Yeah. What?
You don't have a green card, don't tell ice dude fuck.
Yeah, green card. No Absolutely fucking amazing
movie. Rod no notes.
No notes. For me, but they're only
positive, notes Brad Pitt alwayseating in that movie.

(01:22:44):
Always eating. Amazing, amazing.
In most movies, but yes. On that one specifically, have
you ever, do you, have you guys ever come across every like, I
think it's like early January? Steven Soderbergh puts out his
personal like Culture Digest. No, but I'm interested basically
everything he can tell me more. In a year, it's everything he

(01:23:07):
consumes. In a year Books.
Like everything like albums he listen to Wow movies.
Obviously, and it's, and it's logged and it's insane.
You should look at it. It's all catalogued for every
year. But it's like he'll watch a
movie like 6 times in a row and then he'll read three books and
you know, you know, it's, it's nuts.

(01:23:28):
And it's like an how to on like how to establish some taste.
Yeah, Soderbergh's the goat. Do you think he soundtracks his
own movies? I think he sits in the room
because he's smart enough to hire people to to do it for him,
but I think he sits in the room.Well, because this, like it says
Ocean's 11, it says music by David Holmes, but that that's
not the music director. He's a DJ And like half, about

(01:23:49):
half of the soundtrack is original music from David Holmes
and the rest of it is, you know,songs like this Elvis song.
So I just wonder if David Holmesdid all the music.
I bet he didn't. I bet, I bet it was Soderbergh
was like, hey, I need 10 songs from you.
Here's the vibe, here's the scenes.
And then I feel like he scored the rest of it because scored
but sequenced. Yeah, but the whole score thing

(01:24:10):
is interesting too. And that like I bumped up
against that prepping for this as well.
We're like. I know we got in a text argument
about it yesterday and I. No, that's different.
Thank you. No, music made for a movie is
different than a score, right. So like the Trent Reznor,
Atticus Ross stuff, you got Johnny Greenwood scoring.

(01:24:31):
There will be blood. Like, yeah, that's that's been
probably top free movie of all time and and the scores are
epic, but they're not it's not music, you know, it's not a
director going, hey, this is thesong to drive this scene
forward. OK, OK.
Oh yeah, sorry, I forgot I forgot to say how that that that
movie, that movie and and scene make me feel just makes me

(01:24:54):
happy. That one.
Just that would make Roger Cappywatching Options 11.
That one make Roger Cappy. That one make Roger Cappy.
Yes, that's what I said. That one make Roger happy all.
Right, Doug, bring it home. Doug, you tell us last song.
Doug, you tell last song. I got last song, I tell last
song it I can do 3 songs for my last songs that we agreed upon.

(01:25:16):
Yeah, I can wish that we're. All.
All right, I'm just going to go.I'm going to go just I'm going
to go like quarter my my text and it's the Pixies.
Where is my mind? The ending scene of Fight Club.

(01:25:39):
Try to strain and spin it. Yeah, get rid of the house, but
there's nothing in it and you'relast concerned.
Where is my mind? Where is my mind?
Yep, I mean. It's there, it's up there.
It's. As it pertains to like, writing,

(01:26:02):
directing and music all sort of coming together, the city's just
dropping, you know, exploding around him.
He's standing there. It's still wild to watch to this
day. Like I know it was like shocking
even then that last scene, like what they did, even now watching
that scene is like however many years later, you're still like
holy shit, like almost feels like you're not allowed to do

(01:26:24):
that if that makes sense and like it's.
Well, it was a precursor to likeis a precursor to prestige TV,
right? Like what prestige TV taught us
was like, you can kill off an A main character or you can you
can do this thing that was unthinkable, right.
And when we were all, you know, yeah, teens, early 20s seen

(01:26:44):
Fight Club for the first time and and it actually happened,
right. They actually blew up the city.
You're like, oh, that was the first time where it was like,
yeah, yeah. Nobody stopped some somebody say
it didn't save it. It John McClain isn't there to
save the day on that one. That might be on the list to Don

(01:27:07):
about. Like if you could watch it over
again or who, whichever. Have you asked that question to
be watching, not knowing the twist?
Yeah, like that would be one of them.
That would be 1 for sure. This, I mean, this kind of
revived Pixie's career, this song in this movie, too.
They never went away because they're the Pixies.
But yeah, I don't know if you guys remember this, but this was
before, like after. This is when they started
getting back together and doing,like, reunion shows that like

(01:27:28):
Riot Fest and that's cool. Stuff like that, yeah.
That's cool. That's my last pick.
That's a great choice. I feel like we did a good job of
very personal stories of movies that mean a lot to us, but also
iconic movie moments that had tobe on the.
List it also unintentionally or maybe intentionally.
I don't know how you guys lookedat it, but I wasn't actually

(01:27:49):
looking for diverse music, I wasjust going off the scene.
But the mixtape is really diverse.
We've got R&B and hip hop and classic rock and alt rock and.
This will be a good mix. Swap like there's soul like this
is really I have. Some work to do, but it it's
been some sequencing is going tomatter on this one.
I feel like you just, you just close with the closer though,

(01:28:10):
Doug, I feel like where's my mind is the closer to this mix
tape. I don't know that for sure.
I feel like a little less conversation might be the
opener. I'm not sure.
Tiny Dancer, the closer it's. Possible.
Could be you. Got your work cut out for you,
Doug. Back to life.
If that's Dough favorite openingscene in any movie, he's gonna
open the mix tape. Listen.

(01:28:30):
Feels like. This is yeah, roller coaster.
Doug, what do you No, wait. Who won first?
Did I go first? You went.
First, fuck. All right, here's my honorable
mentions. You brought up Empire Records
earlier and plowed by sponge is Yep.
When they're. Getting ready to set up for the
party. Such a good song, good song and
great scene in the movie. We we've talked about this

(01:28:51):
several times Doug, but the scene in chef where they're
watching the marionette with theskeleton.
I'm so tired of being alone by Al Green.
Had I not gone with try a littletenderness, I would have gone
with that one where he's like realizing like shit really sucks
right now and. Then you would have got a red
card for bringing up a movie twice in the in a podcast with
me. The same movie, twice the same.

(01:29:11):
Movie twice didn't do it and then it was 2 on the nose to do
Simple Minds. Don't you forget about me.
That one was that one. Was.
That one was 2 on the nose. Yep, Yep.
Yep, all right. Those are great on dimensions.
Did you you want to know what I learned researching for this?

(01:29:32):
Didn't say anything that the that scene, the radio scene and
say anything was originally supposed to be a fish bone song.
Really. I went and listened to the song
and you're like, thank God they changed that.
That would not have near the impact.
Yeah, sorry. That made me.
That made me think about that for some reason.
All right, so I had, I'm just gonna rattle these off because I

(01:29:55):
had quite a few. I'm not gonna do all of them,
but. Why don't you just do 4?
Because if we do a Part 2, you're gonna wanna save.
Them okay OK massive attack Angel from snatch the scene
where the the casino his casino's getting busted up and
what's his name Mickey's mom's trailer gets set on fire set on
fire with his mom inside awful great song there.

(01:30:15):
I actually this doesn't count for honor Roger for me.
I'm just I'm just jumping on your bandwagon here.
I had golden Brown and Snatch which is when he gets in the in
the bare knuckle fight and. Also a great fucking scene,
Yeah, the first fight where he basically he kills that dude, I
think. Does he kill?
Yeah. No, no, no, no.
It's when Gorgeous George goes against Pitt's.

(01:30:35):
Character, that one. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And this. Boy doesn't kid, maybe.
I had a whole wild thing by X from Major League, yeah.
Great. Wait, you had what from Major
League? Wild thing.
Oh yeah, OK, when it comes out. Hey Donnie, you make more.
Exciting. I'm kind of surprised you went

(01:30:56):
with Wild Thing instead of the Randy Newman song The Old
Coyote. River, we already established
this in the Shane episode. I'm not a huge Randy Newman fan,
man. I mean, he gets me a Toy Story
for sure, but yeah. Yeah.
OK. And then so I get two more.
Let's see, another fun one that I could have gone with but
tequila TV's. Big.

(01:31:19):
Adventure we. Need because of.
The auto cycle club coming out on Max pretty soon.
I think it's May 23rd. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I'm excited for that. It's such a bummer.
I was literally talking with somebody about this the other
day. It's such a bummer that he was
in like a a theater where you would expect him to be doing
what he was doing in the theaterand that just Scarlett lettered
him forever. Yep, Yep.

(01:31:39):
Weird, I just thought it was a little.
People were shit then too. People were doing way were shit
in that room where he was doing,he was doing.
What the hell? He was such a bummer that he got
he. Went to an.
He went to an appropriate place to do an appropriate.
He went to the. Place to do the thing that he
was assigned to you? Yeah.
Yeah, yeah. And then my other one was stuck
in the middle with you from Steeler's wheel reservoir.

(01:32:03):
Dogs. Oh yeah, you're.
Getting seen absolutely had. It's hard to not pick.
It's a Tarantino. Like Tarantino crushes it with
music moments. There's almost too many.
It's almost like I don't know what direction to go with these
fucking Tarantino. So I just didn't do any of them.
But I think that might be my favorite one it.
Was totally on my list. My actually my favorite one is

(01:32:23):
Miserloo, which is the opening, the opening to Pulp Fiction.
The problem with that is it's not really a scene.
There's like 30 seconds of a scene and then it's just the
opening text credits that he does.
There's also cat people from Glorious.
Cat people from glorious bastards like that's that's an
epic. I mean he Yep, he does.
He does, He has. When is that this?

(01:32:45):
Was that what's? Playing during when the theaters
exploding. Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yep. When Django rides back into the
Candyland plantation and Rick Ross's 100 Coffins is playing,
you're just like. So good, right?
So yeah, you know, I think we talked about it.
Did we talk about this? Who did I talk about this with

(01:33:08):
that you? Have to say what it is.
Kanye West tried to take credit for the idea of Jango.
And you and I were talking aboutthis.
Yeah, you and I were talking about this.
That's awesome though. Kanye, Donnie Rodrick's my my
travel buddy. Yeah, we talked about that on
the way back from Vermont. We did some snowboarding in
Vermont. You guys didn't come up with a
podcast idea on your car ride? Yeah, we probably did usually,

(01:33:29):
but I already have, I already have one.
I don't need 2. Also, we need to do other
people's homework, you know, just.
We left. Early.
Yeah, fair. Great.
Honorable mentions I'm OK beforeyou hear my honorable mentions,
I wanted to talk about somethingwith this group.
Have you all seen either the Super cut or the individual

(01:33:53):
memes? I guess meme videos, I don't
know what we call them with a what I've done super cut of but
it came out. But it what if it came out in
2007? The Lincoln Parks, What I've
done the ending credit song for Transformers.
They put that to like hundreds of movies.
OK, so my favorite one being Reds walking out on the beach to

(01:34:17):
see Andy. And they watch now and it's just
Linkin Park drops and you see Andy smiling.
And then they cut to shock and redemption.
But they do it for like every movie.
It's just that song. It's just that Linkin Park song,
yeah. It's it's 1 of this movie ended
in 2007 and it's fantastic. Not a great song nor used

(01:34:42):
iconically in movies, but. Were you going to say The
Transformers was your iconic movie moment?
No, just like watch that, spend 20 minutes diving in deep there,
you won't be bumped. Yeah.
All right, I'm going to start with, I'm going to give myself a
yellow card because there was a bit of a debate about this, but
this got removed from my my listbecause of of some conversations

(01:35:05):
that were had over text yesterday.
But the final scene of Romeo andJuliet, the suicide scene, is
Radiohead's Exit movie for a film.
Exit music for a film. Why did that?
Because he wrote it for Baz Lohrmann for that scene.
He wrote it for that scene. But it's so I mean, it's Leo

(01:35:29):
walking you up and she's laying under, you know, she's subdued,
fake, fake dead and the candles are on her and it's like
Radiohead. Holy shit.
So that one didn't make it because of that.
Otherwise it'd have been on there.
Other honorable mentions Delfonics.
Jackie Brown. Just.
Iconic Spill the wine, Boogie Nights when they're when they

(01:35:54):
first arrive at the first party and like everything's great.
What's awesome is like you see all these moments throughout
that scene and then Mark Wahlberg and John C Reilly have
like a diamond board competitionand Mark, Mark Wahlberg goes
check out my jackknife and then doesn't do a jackknife and then

(01:36:14):
and then John. Feels very real.
Feels very real life. Him, John.
C Reilly's all. I'm going to do a full backflip
and then just like back flops and he grabs his back like it's
just, it's just Paul Thomas Anderson cooking being both like
serious and hilarious at the same time.
So it's too. I'm going to go take my breath

(01:36:36):
away, Top Gun. Great balls on my long list too.
It's a good one or. And then?
You could have also. You could also go fucking.
What's the karaoke? The You've lost that love of
boys one. Or boys are back in town.
Or danger zone. Or boys are back in town
volleyball scene and then my final one.
The volleyball scene is not the boys are back in town.

(01:36:57):
The volleyball scene is hanging with the boys, hanging with,
hanging with. That's also fucking who?
Who wrote danger zone? Who did Danger Zone?
Kenny Loggins. Yeah.
Who did hanging with the boys? Kenny Loggins.
Yes, remember. That episode of South Park La
Azer, Kenny Loggins, that's old.And then my last honorable

(01:37:19):
mention go. I got you, babe.
Groundhog's Day. Oh great.
Oh. Runge's going to be stoked that
you picked it at even for an audible mention, but probably
bummed that didn't make the cut.That's The thing is like there's
no choice but to have a second of these themes.
There's still. 30 songs on it, yeah.
We either have we've got anothertheme, Doug that will I would

(01:37:43):
love to pencil you in. It is movie related that we're
going to save if you'd like to be the guest for that one.
I'll be your movie guy. You'll be the. 3rd.
I think we've got at least a couple more because I would like
to do something involving soundtracks.
Soundtracks. Fake.
Bands. You know the fake band thing.
Yeah, the fake band thing's cool.
Yeah, yeah. I've already have my fake band
list, I could do that right now like I'm.
Reading it and. They're done from.

(01:38:04):
Do that thing you do at the top of your list.
Yeah, of. Course it is, but it's a way to
give it away. Way to give it away.
I'm going to cut this out so nobody can hear it.
Good call. Well, this is fun.
I had a great this is great. I had a great time doing this
episode. I did not have a great time
researching this because it's too fucking mini songs and I was
I was stressing myself out too much pressure.

(01:38:26):
Great mixtape. Roderick, read the list.
You do it this time. OK.
Great. I think I can do it.
Try a little Tenderness from Otis Redding.
Mad World by Gary, Jules and Michael Andrews.
Then he kissed me. The Crystals just dropped in
Kenny Rogers. Is that the song title?
Yeah, it's just dropped in as the song title and then in
parentheses to see what condition my condition was in.

(01:38:48):
To see what condition my condition is in by Kenny Rogers,
Perfect Day by Lou Reed. You've got the love from the
source. Is that is that right?
Done okay with featuring some other people.
Candy Stanton. We've we've got Feed My
Frankenstein, Alice Cooper. We've got Still by the Ghetto
Boys. I'm sorry, just ghetto boys.
We've got Back to Life from soulto soul, Tiny Dancer, Elton

(01:39:12):
John. We've got a little less
conversation, a little more action from Elvis, and we've got
Where's My Mind by the Pixies. Oh yeah.
That's a fucking I'm gonna. Listen to this mixed name.
I'm gonna listen to Put the Sucker On, Yeah.
This is gonna go not gonna be bad.

(01:39:33):
How to make a? Mix tape.
All right. Well, thanks.
Thanks Doug for thanks for the theme.
First off, great theme. And then thanks for being on
again. It's good times.
Appreciate you boys as always. Appreciate it.
Till next time, see. You.

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