Tape 49 - "It's the End of the World As We Know It" - How To Make A Mixtape

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How? Many.
Now, the making of a good population tape is a very supple
art. Many do's and don'ts.
First of all, you're using someone else's poetry to.
Express how you feel. This is a delicate thing.
You got to kick it off with a killer grab attention, then you

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got to take it up enough, then you got to cool it off a notch.
There are a lot of rules. He said he sent me a link, but I
don't think he fucking sent me alink because I didn't get a
link. I just got a call from Citibank
Quote UN quote Citibank. Saying.
That there was a bunch of charges on one of my cards and

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I'm like, all right, sounds good.
What card was it? Like it was Apple Pay, so we
don't have the card number in front of us.
And I'm like this seems fishy. Seems real fishy.
Real fishy. And then he, I'm like, well, can
you give my give me my e-mail address?
And so he gave me my e-mail address and I'm like, all right,
then you, you checked that one off.

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I don't know, man. Are they trying to steal my
credit? Maybe I'm quite possibly.
I mean, you can always just callthe actual Citibank customer
service. Here's what's Funny is that like
guy called the fucking phone number back in it was Citibank
and then I felt like a dummy then.
This sounds legit. I got to hold my mic by my mouth
as I write my songs down. But my fancy new mic.
This sounds so much better when you're talking into the
microphone. It's weird.

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It's. Weird how that works.
That's why I moved it closer. Weird how that works.
And I'm I'm also upset because Idon't have my songs written down
in pen and that's an important part of my process.
Well, while you're writing that down, yeah, I I might as well
just. Jesus.
Christ, weather update right before we got on to record it

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just started downpouring. Like we're losing you at any
minute. Rate up downpour and now it's
stopped, it's done and you're sun out.
It's wild. It's like I live in Florida and
I don't. That's weird if the listeners
know this but I don't. I don't live in Florida.
No, they know that you live in Maryland.
I don't live in Maryland. I'm taking the train to

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Maryland, man. But how many times do I have to
tell you the show is not where Ilive?
I do not live in the town where the show is.
How far is the show from the town?
From where I live, a ways away, I'm coming into into the town
for the show too. The tour is not coming to where
I live. All right, it seems dangerous.

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It seems like you're up to no good.
The show is in Baltimore. That's not where I booked the
train. Oh, Baltimore, MD, that is
where. Yeah, it is.
It is. All right, just so long as I
don't get left in the city. All I'm picturing, all I'm
picturing is the scene in Adventures and Babysitting where
I have somehow lost my glasses and I'm trying to meet you and

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Stupid Doug to go see Murder by Death.
But I go to the hot dog vendor and I try and write a check for
the hot dog And he, the hot dog vendor says, I say, but I don't
have $3. And then the hot dog vendor
says, well, then I don't have a Wiener.
And then I end up not getting a hot dog because you guys leave
me stranded in the city. I kind of hope that happens to
you. I don't want that to happen.

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You're a big boy, you're not going to get lost, you know,
lady. That's not a cat, that's a jumbo
sewer rat. Adventures in Babysitting.
One of the best movie posters ofall time.
Of all time, one of the best. No notes, no arguments.
It's the same guy who did all the like, all the paint like he
did Indiana Jones. Yeah, posters.

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He did OK. I looked it up before.
He's done like everything, all the cool painted painted movie
posters. Elizabeth Shue Adventures in
babysitting. I wish she was my babysitter.
What you do? What a dream boat.
Have you been listening to anything new lately?
We haven't done that in a while.Yep.
You know who's been getting a lot of shout outs on the pod

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lately? Evan Thomas.
He had been. He's been brought up several
times over the last couple of episodes.
Hey great, great big listener ofthe pod.
He is a listener. Absolutely.
He brought up an insta story theother day, a band that I am
currently typing their name intoSpotify as I'm talking slowly to

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not fill time. Fuck I can't find them but
they're like a Japanese math rock band.
Oh yeah, does that. Didn't.
Him and his. Did you take his daughter to see
them? I know, was that?
A tricot. Tricot that's.
Tricot, TRICOT, tricot. They were an absolute blast.

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I've been listening to that. Very fun.
That's cool. Let me go through the rest.
Of them look at. Them tricot, look how hip they
look. So fucking cool.
Let me go through my recent searches on Spotify.
Nope, nothing else good or new. P DS got a new album coming out,
excited for that. Oh yes, I have listened to

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another new thing, Bethlehem Shalom.
Tell me about that. It's a.
Woman. It's a girl.
Maybe a little bit less soulful.Amy Winehouse.
Oh, interesting. Cool.
She's really cool. She's got about a six song limit

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because after that her voice gets a little bit too much to
handle. Too hot to handle, too cold to
hold. She's got a vibe.
She's. Got a vibe in her first.
Visual vibe. The first song on her most
played is a cover, a tighten up.As in The Black Keys cover.
Yeah, it's very, it's very good.Awesome, that's cool.

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I've been listening to no new bands but some new music by
bands so Pale J keeps putting out.
Oh, racing. Thank you, Steve Riolo.
Yes, thanks. Steve Riolo.
He'd been putting out a bunch ofnew singles with people and it's
feeling like he's going to put out an album that's all duets or
all like, you know, end of those, like, feature albums
because all the new singles havesomebody else on them.

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Let's crack open a cold one for pale J.
Hey, nice cold Diet Coke. Nope.
Oh dude, I am. Sparkling water.
Dude, just tell. Tell the.
Listener, is that a bomb Pop Bob?
Pop Bubbly. Pom pop bubbly.
It is the flavor of the summer. Fantastic.

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Yeah, it has been. Well, yeah, New Pale J's cool.
There's a new Waves album. Are you into them at all?
Waves WAVVS like King of the Beach and that kind of stuff.
Their new album is awesome. It is so good.
And then Angel Dust just droppeda couple new songs which.

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Are. Dope so.
Is anything knocking your socks off?
I mean I I had no expectations of a new Waves album.
They haven't put anything out since like 2021 and it kind of
knocked my socks off. I've listened to it all the way
through like 3 times. And yet like I've been coming
across a few new artists here and there that are that are
cool, but I haven't dove deep into anything really.

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I don't know. Bailey Baum was one that came
across my thing. Tangia Stone, who's somebody
that Pete produced. What else?
What else is new? Oh, I've got, I've got the I
went to the store to I wanted toget some just non flavored bubly
waters and this is the only one they had.
They've gone apesious. Liquid Death has gone crazy with

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the flavors. It's the only one they had, but
this is the only non flavored one.
The only other thing was Lacroix.
But like the massive case, I didn't want a case.
Why not? I mean because I have a
carbonator carbonator thing. I don't need a case.
I was in a pool party and I wanted some bubbly water.
What's that? What's that thing called?
The one like a soda stream. I love a soda stream fancy.
I have an ARC which is like. Jesus.

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You know, pinkies up fancy fancy.
Fucking guy. A dork Dork.
I'm excited to party with you onThursday.
Same. I'm really excited.
It's going to be. It's so soon.
So 2 days. Two days so soon.
I'll be on an airplane tomorrow morning.
I'll be on an airplane in 12 hours.
Yeah, Yep. I'll be driving up looking
great. To DC tomorrow for work, but

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I'll be back which. Is not.
The way there. Is that where the show is?
Shows in Baltimore, MD, Maryland.
I'm taking an Amtrak. I've never taken an Amtrak
before. Oh, new experiences for you?
Yeah, they sent me an e-mail asking if I wanted to upgrade my
ticket. I said no.
You don't need that on a 30 minute train ride.

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It's 41 minutes bro. 40 minutes,you don't need that. 6 more
minutes of comfort. You don't need it.
All right, I've got some music news.
Play the song. I thought you said you were

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going to get me access to the songs.
I can, but last episode you saidit was probably a bad idea to
give you. That's true.
You want to know what I did set back up again though.
So you still have some control over that.
For a for a while, I because it's on my watch, it's on it's

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on my action button on my watch.And for a while I took it, I
took it off and put the flashlight on.
And then I found out that it would be more important for me
to have the losing horn from Price is Right than it would be
to have a flashlight on my watch.
And I think that's. Probably true.
I think that makes. Sense and I think it sounds
better on the pod when you play it from your watch to be honest

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with you. It's you need that kind of like.
Record off the radio. Record off the radio kind of
vibe. Yeah, yeah, All right, Music
news. Are we just, are we going to
skip over the whole ditty verdict thing?
Can we just not? Don't care.
Yeah, All right, we're skipping that.
Great, perfect. Black Sabbath played their final
show with all those artists you see, all those people that were

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there. I did see all those people that
were there and like, here's what's also crazy about that.
Do you know how old Steven Tyleris?
142. 77 years old dude. How old's Ozzy?
1000 But like here's what's crazy is that my dad is 74, my
dad 74. Ozzy is only 76.

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Ozzy is younger than Steven Tyler.
Ozzy's younger than Steven Tyler.
The years have been less friendly to Ozzy.
Well, you know, he was a bit of a harder, harder rocker.
I would, I would. Argue he rocked a bit harder he
partied a bit harder but Steven Tyler crushing it and as I'm
like watching like Steven Tyler,I'm like Jesus Christ, he's 77
years old and then Chad Smith isplaying drum show Chad Smith is

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Chad Smith is 63 I. Mean that's how it works man.
He's. Getting are you fucking kidding?
They. Get old they get old I.
Understand that like I I I know that the only undefeated thing
in the world is time, but like to be crushing it as hard as
Chad Still Smith, Chad Smith still is at 63 is pretty amazing
I. Don't know, man, Cher might be

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beating time. Cher might be beating time.
She's just she's it's unreal. But yeah, so Sabbath final show,
I I read, well, I, I didn't justread it was posted everywhere,
but did you know Ozzy and Axel Rose met for the first time ever
at that show? No shit.
They'd never met before and theyboth made a big deal about it,
posted on social media and all the stuff, but they were both

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like. That is so fucking cool.
Yeah, so Axel posted this crazy long post and he was so like,
honored to meet him. It was really sweet, really
cool. And then Ozzy said, it's not
often in my age that you get to meet a legend.
And I was like, what a cool thing to for have said about you
if you're Axel Rose by Ozzy Holden.
I gotta actually say props to Axel though.

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Did you see any photos of him ordid you see him perform?
Axel looks great, sounds not that.
He looks a lot better than he had though.
Like he looks great, better. He looks great.
He doesn't sound great. He doesn't sound very good at
all, but that's fine. Like he's an old guy too.
And not only that, but it seemed, yeah, he's old.

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I we've talked about it before. Probably favorite band of all
time still to this day. And do your thing, Axel.
Just fucking so like. He's looking great so props to
him. Where'd he go, Axel?
You know, the Oasis tour started.
I have to talk about it, 'cause it, it's everywhere, you know, I
saw. Footage of that as well and it
looked just fine. Yeah, they they their show was

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surprisingly like not no pyrotechnics, no wild stuff,
just big screens and then playing.
But they sounded really good, sowe'll see.
That's gonna that's a long ass tour they're embarking on, so
we'll see if there's any blow UPS.
You think, You think they'll make it.
I don't know, man. We'll see.
They, they, there's, they feel alittle bit more mature, which
you'd hoped they would be. I mean, it's kind of like.

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Axel. It's kind of like Axel.
Yeah. Well, yeah.
It took Axel 40 years to mature.Yeah, All right.
Last thing. I just thought this was cool.
Temple University is adding a class this fall on Kendrick
Lamar. It says the class aims to
examine the Pulitzer Prize winning rappers impact on black
culture, black identity and resistance.

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That's cool. Not very many musicians have
classes about them, no. That's true.
I took a. You know what is?
Is that true? But do not many musicians have
classes about them? I feel like a lot of musicians
have classes about them. Who?
Who else has classes about them?I know Taylor Swift had a class
about her not that long ago. OK, Taylor Swift, Beatles.
Kendrick Lamar? Probably.
The Beach Boys probably have probably in not.

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Not really music related news, but let's say college related
news. MIT will award you a certificate
in piracy if you take archery, pistols, sailing and fencing as
your required PE courses. Like you'll get a degree that
says. You're a.
Pirate. Wait, did you say MIT?

(14:11):
What? This sounds fake.
Did this? Did the Citibank guy tell you
that? Dude, what a fucking great
callback. That's probably the funniest
you've ever. That's probably the funniest
you've ever been. OK, hold on a second.
MIT officially awards a certificate in piracy to
students who complete archery, fencing, pistol shooting, and

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sailing as their required physical education courses, a
program that transformed from anunderground campus tradition in
an official certification in fall of 2011.
Yeah, it's real dude all. Right.
Well, wild, wild. I also feel like before we bring
on the guests, I have to commenton the second episode in a row.
You've had that dope Bjork poster behind you.
It's huge. Huge poster.

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Huge Bjork. Poster.
Yeah, listeners can't see it, but.
Yeah, giant Bjork. It's cool.
Yeah, it's cool. All right.
Guest. Guest time.
Yeah, this is going to be a fun one.
Right. They're all fun ones.
This one's going to be especially.
Fun. Yeah, they're all fun.
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How to make mix tape this one is.
We've been working on this for aminute trying to get this
special guest on here for a minute.

(16:17):
I'm glad that we finally were able to make the schedules work
out and and also excited for ourfirst eating guest.
There's nothing that says you can't enjoy pizza on a podcast
there. Was no rule that said no, no
rules. There shouldn't there?
I might encourage a rule going forward that says exclusively
pizza. Mandatory pizza.
Mandatory pizza on episodes. Please eat pizza Garrett

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Garrett, rap singer of The ColorMorale.
Thank you for joining us on the POD.
I was wondering what title was going to be attached.
Dude, what did you want? What do you want?
Give me the title that you wouldprefer us to have.
That's fine. Singer color morale.
That's fine. How?

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How about total hunk? That's even better.
Horror aficionado. That one's even better.
Keep going, feel. Good about that.
OK, All right. We'll, we'll stick with those
three. That's a pretty deep list of
credentials. That's good.
That's good. Those are good credentials.
Do you want it way worse? Do you want to do a quick brag?
Really quick for any listeners about the new Horror Collection

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contribution. Yes, so I after 31 years as of
last week, have acquired my HolyGrail, my 1994 Gottlieb
Nightmare Elm Street pinball machine.
I've wanted this since the year it came out in 1994 and it's
currently in my home. Totally.
Functional. Totally functional.

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Very active. That's so.
Fucking cool. And it's been made trophy shout
out to my my friend Colin. It's been maintained.
It's it's beautiful. Just I'm ecstatic having this in
my home. What does the hunt for a pinball
machine look like? Is it tough?
Because that's Is it a rare one?I I wouldn't say rare, but it's
as time goes on, it's getting increasingly harder to find for

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sure. You know, you're, you're going
to find like one on eBay from time to time.
Yeah, they're one of the harder machines to find for sure.
That's so fucking cool. Good for you.
What are you doing? Are you doing anything musically
lately? We are actually.
We just recorded 2 singles with Cody Kwistat from Wage War in

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Nashville and currently kind of shopping those around and
figuring out what what the next step is going to be.
You can say that you're literally getting the band back
together, Yeah. We, we got back together after
seven years off. We, we were originally going to
play Blue Ridge Rock Fest, whichgot cancelled controversially as

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you may or may not know. And then our next festival we
played was South by Soul What inTexas, and that was absolutely
amazing. You, you get this like weird
imposter syndrome when you haven't played in that long and
you know, you think 7 years is along time, nobody's going to
care anymore. We're not relevant.
And you know, that's not true because people still, you still

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get messages daily and you, you know, you know, people are still
there. That was kind of the one of the
special things about our band aswe had a a really cult following
and you know, we had a we had the kind of fan base that will
be your fan base for the rest ofyour career, so.
Does it feel awesome getting back out there?
It does. It's it's there's good and bad.

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There's, there's like like awkward takeaways, like I'm 44
now and when I stopped doing this, I had no problem playing
an hour set and playing through 20 songs and then going and
standing and talking for two hours.
That was no problem at all. And older, you know, some of
these guys that that tour in, inbig, you know, rock bands like

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watching the Ozzy Osbourne stuffand watching all these, you
know, old musicians come back and play gigs.
Like dude, it's tough and it gets harder like every.
So that was kind of a weird something I noticed right away,
Like we're not conditioned because we're not doing this
every day. You know, we went from 2 for
months at a time to for nothing for, you know, a six year hiatus

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and then boom, you're right backto playing a headlining set and
it's an hour long and you know, it's, it's exhausting for sure.
It puts things we were talking about in the intro.
It puts things into perspective about Steven Tyler doing it. 77
years old dude and he. Murdered it.
He sounded fantastic. He sounded great.
Yeah, it's crazy. And his vocal.
Style He he has a very strange vocal delivery and you know,

(20:58):
it's like people that it's really easy to get on the
Internet and poke fun of singersand bands like Axl Rose or, you
know, Axl Rose had such a uniquevocal delivery or Brian Johnson.
You can't emulate that when you're 80, I mean.
Yeah. Totally.
You're doing damage to your vocals to make them sound unique

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and textured and original, but the staying power of that is
super difficult, man. Yeah.
That's crazy to think that 77 instill up there kind of crushing.
Yeah, I mean, I watched the video of of Steven Tyler and and
you know that set and man, he sounded fantastic and he's
jumping around and he's, you know, that's insane.

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And like big squishy new balances good for him.
So fancy bell bottoms and big squishy new balances.
It's like 1,000,000 bucks. He earned those like he you
earned cashiers, you know? He totally did.
I don't want to pretend that I haven't been listening because I
have been listening, but I've also got super distracted by
your pinball conversation. You unlocked a memory that I had

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completely lost. Like my best friend in
elementary school had a Godzillapinball machine in his basement,
and I just looked that sucker up.
It's worth like 10 grand now to buy one of those.
The one with the actual, like, Godzilla figure in it.
And you could shoot it up and like, did it come out of his
mouth? I don't remember.
I think there's two different variations of Godzilla.
I think there's a new. World, this would have been in

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the late 80s. Yeah, that.
There's that one, and then there's like, don't quote me on
this, but I think there's a KingKong versus Godzilla.
Oh wow, yeah, that's cool. Sorry I I just, I had to Google.
I just unlocked the memory that I haven't thought of in decades.
And I do all this, you know, like with, with the pinball
culture. One of my good friends owns a
record store here in town calledRock called Toad Hall.

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And him and his dad own RockfordPinball Company.
So he was kind of my, my last push.
My friend Colin who owns this machine as as we've become
better friends he knows of my insane Nightmare on Elm Street
collection side side. Fun fact, I have one of the
biggest Nightmare on Elm Street collections in the world I've
been in like Fangoria and HorrorHound and you know, featured.

(23:09):
Rod, not in the US, in the. World, world.
I heard. I heard.
Global. Global.
I've got a lot left, but I got rid of a lot.
I kind of hit that point with itwhere after you move a couple
times you're like, this is a house full of stuff.
Like only that stuff. And, you know, I got to a point

(23:30):
where I just, I thinned a lot ofit out and I, I kept a lot of my
really rare and really sentimental stuff, but I, I
thinned a lot of it out though. I appreciate the Beetlejuice
shirt too. Oh yeah, yeah.
Garrett what is our theme for this mixtape?
Because it's so open to interpretation, we think we're
going to have three different approaches, but let's see what

(23:51):
the theme is. I want to start it at age 15 to
now age 44, and through that entire journey, I've always done
something cool and something I enjoyed.
And I, as I've come to learn in adulthood, that's extremely
rare. So the theme is the way it was

(24:11):
phrased, doing cool shit with the time on earth while you
can't I. Didn't know if I could say shit
or not so yes. Yeah, absolutely.
You can say shit. Yeah, you can say shit.
OK, so doing cool shit with the time on earth while you can.
Yeah. This is the this is the
soundtrack to doing cool shit. Yeah.
So, OK, Don, how did you interpret because so Garrett

(24:32):
just said what that means to him.
What did that mean to you? It meant like our time is finite
and the end is inevitable, and this is the soundtrack to the
inevitability of the world eventually, like your time being
up. OK.
This is which sounds a little bit different from what Garrett
said he was. Totally.
Which is fine. And what is and what's yours,

(24:52):
Rod? I thought of it as like what
songs make me think about like how I want to live my life, sort
of like what do I want my life to be during this time?
And songs that make me think about how I want to live my life
basically. That's kind of that's kind of
how. I interpret it.
You pretty much crushed it. Well, we'll see.
We'll see what the how these songs pan out.

(25:12):
It's going to be fun. I'm stoked in my songs so.
I'm stoked in my songs as well. With that said, Garrett, you
want to go first, second or third?
I'll. Go third.
OK, cool going. Through Dang.
There's low risk of steel, but it's fine, Rod read the fucking.
Rules. Yeah, I'll read the rules here
real fast. All right, You got to have a
killer opening track that grabs the listener's attention.
Each song should flow smoothly into the next.

(25:34):
The mixtape should have a great balance of different genres,
tempos and moods. The mixtape should tell a story
or convey a specific emotion. Can't be too obvious, but can't
be too obscure either. Can't double up on songs by the
same artist. And the closing track should
leave a lasting impression. Pretty good, quick and quick and
smooth. I guess that means I'm first if
he's going third. 4040 ninth time we've heard the rules,
Garrett, so thanks for strappingin for that.

(25:56):
One and 40, well, I'll say aboutthe 40th time Donnie's
complained about it so. Roderick's going first.
Roderick, what is your first contribution to the next team?
Yeah, I feel like the way I approach this makes me want to
explain the song before I say what the song is.
So. So this song, when I hear this
song, it makes me think of like,if you surround yourself with

(26:19):
people that make you happy, you're going to have a a better
fucking life one. But there's like certain special
people that just make you feel like high, almost like you love
being around them so much that it's like that's him, that's it.
That's where I want to be. And so I don't know if you know
this artist, but K Fly and her song High Enough is going to be
my first pick. Well, there's a curse.

(26:40):
It'll kill if you let it. I know they got pills that can
help you forget it. They probably call it medicine,
but I don't know drugs because I'm already high, you know?
You got me. You got me good.
I'm ready. How you know?

(27:03):
I'm not familiar with K flay. K Flay is like an alternative
pop artist. So it's kind of like actually
kind of maybe like a Billie Eilish vibe, but been around
longer I think. And not no, Billy's got like a
gorgeous voice. K Flay is a little more like
alternative. The song's basically like, I
don't need drugs because you getme high kind of stuff.

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But it's very like life's amazing because this person I'm
around. So I was just like this song, it
always just gave me good vibes. I liked that kind of like, it's
a little corny. I get it.
Like I'm high on life. I don't need drugs kind of a
thing. But turning that into like this
person gives me that high. This person makes me feel alive.
Like this person I'm around all the time makes life that much

(27:45):
better. So it's a cool song.
She's got a great vibe too. Which version are you doing?
Are you doing the? Just not the remix.
The regular version, Yes. Not the remix.
And she's from Wilmet. Really shit.
And I, I saw her years ago. I saw her probably like 2010 at
Lollapalooza. That was my first introduction
to her actually, was in Chicago at Lollapalooza.

(28:07):
And I've kind of been into her ever since.
I had no idea. But yeah, I don't have much else
to say. It's a dope if people don't know
Kay Flay, I think people should listen.
I think it's dope. And you know, that's kind of the
kind of pop that I tend to get into more.
It's a little edgier, a little bit kind of dance vibes, but
that's that's my first pick. New EP.
IN20246 Song EP. Yeah, she's still doing stuff.
OK, cool. I think she rapped for a while

(28:29):
too. Like when I was looking her up,
like there's a there's videos ofher, she went to Stanford and
there's like videos of her rapping and stuff.
I think she was in a band when she was in college.
I thought she was a rapper. Yeah, I mean, she there's a
little bit of hip hop influence for sure in her stuff.
I don't know, some of the bands she gets compared to I'm not a
fan of. So I'm wondering if she just
kind of sneaked through a crack for me.
You know, like I, I see comparisons to like Awolnation

(28:52):
and stuff and I don't really, I guess I kind of see it, but I
don't really, not really into that.
OK, cool. Well, I'm excited if K flay
listen sounds awesome and I likethat you go edgy or female pop
versus like right down the middle, the pop girl pop of like
Sabrina Carpenter or you like you like you like your pop with

(29:15):
a bit of edge. I I do, and I don't know if
we've ever talked about it, Don,because we both like pop.
Like I love pop. I will listen to some straight
up pop, but I don't find myself going to listen to those
artists. But if it comes on, I often
enjoy it. Whereas I think sometimes you do
go listen to that and I maybe I wish I did more because some of
that stuff's great. Yeah, I do find myself going to

(29:36):
artists like her a little bit more.
And great song is your bigger song is that?
Is this your big, big one? Oh, yeah, yeah, big one.
Very cool. All right, over to me.
And then Garrett rounding up thetop three.
So first of all, bananas that this artist hasn't made it on
the mix on any mixtape yet. And I did it more so as

(29:58):
soundtrack to like, this is whatI want.
Like, not necessarily play me out, but like if I'm doing cool
shit, this is the soundtrack of doing cool shit.
But also maybe like, you know, this might be closing credits, I
guess is the way to maybe I I. Approach your life.
Maybe I don't know but. It's a dire maker.
It sounds dark. That feels.
Dire Maker by Led Zeppelin. It's as good as it gets.

(30:44):
Agreed. It's it's as good as it gets,
right? It's a fucking great song.
It's out of the genre from what you would expect from the band.
I love the reggae twist on the song and if I'm having a good
time, it's going to be up strums, it's going to be up
tempo. If I'm making the most of the
time that I have, it's going to be fun shit like Dire Maker.
And I think that the fact that we've made it 49 episodes, 500

(31:09):
and how many songs rock? Too many.
I don't have it up right now. They have to have been an
honorable mention. We've talked about them before.
I'm sure they've been an honorable mention, but they've
never made it on a fucking mixtape. 575 songs and this is
our first Zeppelin song. Yeah, that's wild.
I'm proud of it, I'm proud of it.
That's pretty wild. Gary, you got a relationship
with Zeppelin at all? Did you go through the Zeppelin

(31:31):
phase that every 8th grade freshman year kid went through?
I mean, I went through the Zeppelin phase when it was like
you found Zeppelin and BC Boys at the same time.
Totally what? Do you mean yeah?
8th grade freshman year, yeah. Most of my what most of my
discovery and music that branched off of what I heard on
the radio was skate and BMX videos.

(31:52):
So, you know, every popular mid 90s skate video had a Zeppelin
song in it, you know, So I thinkthat's, I think I probably
discovered both of those at the same time.
Yeah. Did you learn more Beastie Boys
or did you learn more Zeppelin? Or was it just you?
It was A5 disc changer and thosewere both in the mix.
Dude, it was exciting because I wasn't Jade.

(32:14):
I just I heard something that was attractive to make to my
ears and it made me emotionally open up to different sounds and
different, you know, corners of music.
Like I I before I before I listened to growing up, I, I
grew up in a horse ranch, so I listened to a lot of country and
I kind of learned how to identify the melody through

(32:36):
country music. But say what I did now in in The
Color Morale as a vocalist, I probably wouldn't have done that
the same way if I never found Led Zeppelin or you know what I
mean? Like totally, I never rapped,
but I definitely learned how to follow tempo and, and and follow
percussion from Beastie Boys, right, You know what I mean?

(32:57):
Yeah, totally. That's.
Just different, different bands like activate different parts of
your, your, you know, musical identity.
Yeah, for sure. Why did you have the the 8th
grade freshman year Led Zeppelin?
Face it. Was earlier for me, like I I
grew up on classic rock household exclusively and but
and my dad would listen to this,but he was more into that
Southwest thing like we've talked about like eagles and

(33:17):
stuff like that. But there's enough of this
around that I got into it. And because it wasn't exactly my
dad's preference, I got really into this.
And a lot of like the British takeover stuff, you know, I just
like, I was really into Cream, Iwas really into Zeppelin, that
kind of thing. So yeah, probably, probably 8th
grade too. But I, I would say like all of
middle school, I was way into Zeppelin.

(33:39):
So I mean, Zazo, you know, Zeppelin 4 was probably maybe my
most played album for a couple of years.
Like I was. Yeah, I was heavy into it.
Oh yeah. What age would that have been?
11/12. Yeah, yeah.
I'm, I'm thinking probably around like 1314 for me as what?

(34:00):
As at that time where you just found all this stuff at once,
you know? Totally.
Stairways got a billion streams.I was honestly like when I was
like 6th, 6th, 7th grade. I think The Who was probably my
favorite band. I probably listened to The Who
more than anything. Damn, you were kind of a cool
kid. Yeah, The Who kind of fell off

(34:20):
for me. Like, they're fine.
I don't listen to him much anymore, but I'll still listen
to Zeppelin. Like Zeppelin.
Timeless stuff, dude. Yeah.
Never gets old. Good call.
Get it over to you buddy. What is your first pick?
You know, I threw a bunch of songs on a playlist for this and
they all have, I'm trying to think of like a correlated story
that connect them all, but I'm just going to dive in and pick

(34:42):
one and start. So I think my first song.
So I'm going to pick this first song because this is one of the
oddest experiences I've ever been through in my music career.
And it's a fantastic song by a fantastic artist or combination
artist. So back story, we're on tour, we
wake up and everybody's social media is like freaking out about

(35:05):
MF Doom and The Color Morale. And we're like, it's got to be
some kind of mistake. Kind of, you know, crazy to hear
the new color morale MF Doom song.
We're like, we definitely didn'tdo a song with MF Doom.
So that's. I would remember that.
But it was like dozens and dozens and dozens of comments
like in this link to A to an Adult Swim channel premiere of a
song by MF Doom and Sean Price featuring The Color Morale.

(35:27):
We're like, what is this everybody talking about?
So we looked up the song and thesong is called Negus and e.g.
US by Sean Price, Doom and Ike eyes, Bakaraho Cantoso, will you
know the drill. Mad jewel.
Then Gagao shoot the loogie, theSuper bougie Rob smack dab right

(35:50):
cheekbone gooey groovy absolutely yucky gouge league
buddy. Before you take a stab at it,
dig deep and study. We found out how it happened.
MF Doom had a had a ghostwriter or not a ghostwriter but a Co
writer that he worked with. This Co writer was a big fan of
ours and sampled a guitar lead one of our songs and made a

(36:11):
whole track out of it for this new Sean Price MF Doom song.
Crazy like, you know, our our team kind of what do you guys
want to do about this? Do you guys want to like reach
out first before we pursue legalaction?
We're like what? Do you mean legal action like MF
Doom? It's like, well, nobody sampled
a track with no permission. I'm like, well, have his team

(36:34):
give us credit, you know, of course, but we're not going to
take legal action. That's like, you know, a couple
of the guys in the bands, like their favorite artist of all
time and they're freaking out about it.
Such a strange and bizarre back story, but I'll start it out
with that one. That's a Sean Price MF Doom song
featuring The Color Morale that somehow happened by way of you

(36:58):
wrote a cool guitar lead and a bunch of your heroes liked it
and made a song out of it. What what what came of it?
Did you get to like talk to him?Did you get to like shoot the
shit with Doom and like, hey, thanks.
We, we were invited to somethingand he passed away and we never
got to see him do anything, meet, get together, potentially

(37:20):
do more music together. But my guitar player Ramon, like
MF 2, was his favorite artist ofall time and, and that was his
guitar lead. So it was like one of the most
extraordinary moments of his entire life.
But I put this song in the playlist because we're talking
about doing cool shit with your time here, and it doesn't get

(37:41):
much cooler than waking up one day and having your song sampled
by MF Doom. Oh my God, that's amazing.
I don't think it gets cooler than that unless you are MF
Doom. Yeah.
Yeah, that's true. That's incredible.
What a cool story. That's really cool.
Yeah. Well, shit.
Rod, has your band ever been in one of your contributions to the
Mixed tape? No, but I've thought about it.

(38:02):
But you should do it. You should definitely do it.
What's your next pick? Roderick.
My band wasn't anywhere any a fraction of as good as The Color
Morale so I don't think anybody wants to hear it.
Thanks. I still want to hear it I.
Appreciate that you've never asked to hear it, but I
appreciate. It there's a reason why?
All right, So what? What's your next pick?

(38:24):
All right, I'm going with from my next pick.
I'm going with Foo Fighters. I'll stick around.

(38:52):
Because the song is, well, Dave Grohl wrote it about Courtney
Love being an ass to him. But like, really, the song is
about like, not letting fucking assholes get you down.
Like you cut him out, move on, grow from it for grow from that
shit, right? Like stick to your downstanding
path kind of stuff. Going to the Lorimore.
OK, so Dave, Roll. Wrote if you read the So yeah,

(39:15):
if you ask him now, he'll say that that's kind of true.
But really it was just about people who he wanted to cut out
of his life. But like early interviews when
this record came out. So this is on the self-titled,
which probably a top three record for me.
In fact, it is a top three record for me.
I love this record. It's half punk, half 90s alt.
Like it's just fantastic. I love everything about it.

(39:35):
Early interviews, people are like, you know, is this song
about Kurt? Is that song about Kurt?
Is that song about Kurt? And he's like, no, no, no.
And then they're like, is that song about Courtney?
And he's like, well, actually kind of yeah.
And I mean, if you if you look, if you look at the lyrics too,
it's like it's pretty on the nose.
Like, I mean, they're they're easy to just like put yourself

(39:58):
in those same shoes. If you have ever had somebody in
your life that kind of like burned you or like 2 faced or
anything like that. But like my favorite line that
feels very Courtney loved it. Very Courtney Love targeted is.
How could it be I'm the only onewho sees your rehearsed
insanity? And I'm like, God, that's

(40:29):
totally, totally targeted. Courtney 100% targeted her.
So basically. Her whole persona fake and like
for the media and shit like. So this is post Kurtz death.
Yeah. And he just still fucking hates
her because she's just kind of riding the Kurt's dead
coattails. The full lore, like, and I don't

(40:49):
know how much of like the whole Nirvana, like there's so many
documentaries, there's so many things out there, but Courtney
never liked Dave ever. And Dave being Dave, like pretty
seemingly good dude. I'm she's not perfect by any
means, as we've established on this podcast, but especially
young, he's a boy basically whenhe joined that band, Like I
don't think he ever really understood why she didn't like

(41:10):
him, but she never never liked him.
And then when Kurt died, she gotlike real aggressive toward Kris
Novoselich and and Dave about like the rights to everything.
And it got really nasty. And I think a lot of things were
said and I don't know the details about it, but she really
kind of turned on those two and like became it was like, you're
my enemy now. And it's like, but we were
Kurt's like best friends and bandmates and like, what's the

(41:33):
issue here? So this song is kind of like,
fuck you, I'm out. I got my own shit to do.
Life's too short basically to fuck around with people who
don't want to fuck with me. So I always appreciated that for
the song. And and also, man, I just love
this record dude. So like, I would even twist this
to say your take on this episode2 Don is just like, what do I

(41:54):
want to hear with the short term?
I have left this album on fucking repeat, dude.
I just would pop this thing on and just go.
I mean, I love that. I absolutely love it.
Have you guys heard the Pete, the private investigator that is
reopening the case? No way.
Yeah, this week there's API that's on the case and has
apparently discredited that it was suicide.

(42:16):
And he's he's now going down this whole pathway of proving
that it was a murder. And.
He's that who hired The Who hired this?
Can I see? That I don't know and I don't
remember where I saw it, but it was like a it was like not click
bait. It was like a credible, you
know, whoever was sharing the story, it was credible.

(42:37):
It wasn't just like a hosting anything to to get a click.
Yeah, look that. Off.
Yeah, that's crazy. Yeah.
I will. I will look into that.
That's worth of Google, yeah. I will look into that.
But yeah, so I, I, you know, I wish Donna could give you more,
but that's so clouded all that shit back in, right?
Like there wasn't Twitter and shit.
So there's not like you can go see their conversations in the

(42:58):
public eye. Like, I'm sure a lot of shit was
said interpersonally or on phonecalls and it got reported from
one way or the other and blah, blah, blah.
But early on in interviews, he was basically, like, confirmed
this is about Courtney Love and kind of backtracked it later in
his career because he was probably trying to be a little
bit more of a peacemaker at thatpoint, You know?
You know. Hey, Dave Grohl and Gwen
Stefani, both writing songs targeted at Courtney Love.

(43:21):
You gotta love it. Yeah.
How many Foo Fighters songs havemade it?
I think only one this. Is only the second.
This is only the second. Yeah.
And the other one was me. I picked Everlong on sophomore
albums. OK, all right, cool.
It's not bad Have. You heard my cover.
I have heard your cover. In fact, I, I was, I was
familiar with The Color Morale. I wasn't incredibly familiar,

(43:42):
but I was familiar with the Everlong cover from the punk
goes 90s, right? Is that the comp it was on?
Dude I loved all those punk goes, it was cool too.
Because we were picked to do that track by by Fearless, the
record, the label that put out that album.
I was curious and I, I was glad that that came up because I was
going to ask how that works, like if they come to you with a
song or if you, if you got to pick and say like we would like

(44:05):
to do this. Normally there's a list that
they have rights to and they'll go to.
I think on that album, A Day to Remember was on that album and
you know, there were like huge fans on the album so that it
would normally get first pick ofthe list.
And with us, our A&R was the guythat was kind of in charge of
that. So he just sent an e-mail to the

(44:27):
band saying, hey, Punko's 90s, you guys are doing Everlong.
We're like, oh, can we, can we see the list?
He's like. Yeah, no.
You don't need to see the list you guys are doing Everlong.
Like how did you feel about that?
Like, were you a fan of that song or?
Huge, huge Foo Fighters fans andlike, very humbling to be asked,
you know, like of all the bands that he, he handpicked that song

(44:49):
for us because he wanted to hearus cover it.
Somebody didn't. Somebody to All Star by Smash
Mouth. Unfortunately, yeah.
That sucks for them unless they picked it.
Maybe they picked it and were stoked on it.
But in my mind though, that's bummer.
They got stuck with that song and you guys got you guys got
one of the best rock songs ever written in my opinion.

(45:12):
Like I don't know if that's controversial, but I absolutely
think that's just one of the best songs ever.
And somebody had to do All Star by Smash Smash Mouth.
My next pick? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
OK, cool. Yep, I am going to do One Step
Beyond by madness. Is that did you not?

(45:54):
Have you had madness on here before?
Nope, but I did have the specials on, but I haven't had
madness on. But like this is like the anthem
to fucking the good times. Like when I think of a a good
time doing fun shit anthem, it'sone step beyond.
And not only that, but like if I'm thinking of like a crescendo

(46:15):
of a night, this is the song that I want to play of like fun,
funny antics. You're doing fun shit, you're
having fun with your friends. You're probably getting
involved. Like you're not in trouble, but
you're walking the line of like somebody's going to say, hey,
quit fucking around, but madnessonce that beyond is was going to
play while that's happening. So Rod, fingers crossed somebody

(46:39):
tells us to stop fucking around on Thursday night and then this
song is playing because we get into some shit.
We'll see if that happens. Maybe the guy at the hot dog
stand. We need a feather. 3 bucks.
Good fucking yeah because I don't have my 3 bucks.
There was a great call back to Adventures in Babysitting this
morning 0. What a great movie.
That's a good movie. I told Rod I don't have a Wiener

(47:00):
and because I didn't have enoughmoney from a hot dog.
But yeah, One Step Beyond by Madness has got to be the track
of like the crescendo of doing fun shit and maybe a bit of
hijinks. Great band.
Yeah, not super familiar. Or maybe I am and I don't
realize. It's been a while.
That's the song for sure. You would, Yeah, I think you

(47:21):
would. The intro's so weird, but I mean
it makes it fun and. It goes on for a little too
long. That's what makes it more like
it's not. It wouldn't be weird if it was
like 10 seconds, but it's like 40 seconds it.
Goes on for a little too long. OK.
Yeah, but it's fucking great. It's and what's crazy, not their
most played song on Spotify. It's their fourth most played.

(47:44):
Surprise. Oh, fourth most.
No, I'm sorry. Third.
Third. My bad.
Third. Yeah.
Third most. Yeah.
Do I know? It must be love.
Yeah, you know, it must be love.Oh yeah, well, it's 'cause it's
'cause Our House and It Must Be Love are like pop pop singles
like sure One Step Beyond like 2tone dub Yeah, those other two
are basically pop songs, so. Totally.

(48:05):
Also one of the first bands thatChicago is not one of the top
listening cities. Yeah, but also look at their
Spotify photo and tell me that band isn't here for a good time.
That band is here for a great time.
I. Don't even know what's going on
in this photo. There's a shopping cart full of
910 toilet paper. Well, they're all in here twice.
11 members. Oh, they are all in here twice.
They're all in here twice. Oh, never mind that.

(48:27):
So I don't know why there's an odd number.
The guy with the skull is not inthere twice.
Oh, yeah. He's got the rabbit hat on.
No, does he? I don't know what's happening
here, man. I don't know what's happening
here. Yeah, a lot.
But yeah, madness. One step beyond.
Great track. All right, Exactly all.
Right. You must have had them as an
honorable mention too. On on those I never have.
I remember you talking about them.

(48:48):
Never have. Honorable mention.
I mean, not you're right. They're not on here.
They're not on here. I got 4 new artists.
I didn't say that, I said honorable mention.
I never talked when I was honorable.
Mention Garrett over to you. What's your next pick?
Is the contribution since Rod doesn't ever shit together.
This is next to you since. Garrett doesn't ever.
Rod doesn't. Ever shit together?
So, OK, my next song. OK, So what I put this on the

(49:09):
list because I have a good friend, his name is Mark, and he
sings for a band called the Felix Culpa.
And he was somebody that when I was kind of trying to get the
right headspace and going and recording these two new songs,
he was probably the biggest influence as an artist and a
songwriter that I've ever had. So I, I got together with him

(49:32):
and we were kind of playing through things and kind of
trying to reconnect on an artistic level as a songwriting,
you know, venture. So I picked this song called An
Instrument by the Felix Culpa. I guess that I was given

(49:55):
something greater than my hands could hold.
I know that I could make this. Basically the song is about the
music industry and the norm and starting out well, actually

(50:19):
taking everything that's wrong with the music industry and
redefining it in your your band and your art and your genre.
And it's probably like if you didn't know the band or you
didn't know this person writing this, you would think he was
extremely self-centered and self-righteous.
And when you read the lyrics andlisten to the song, and if not

(50:42):
knowing that he has every threadof integrity to back all that
up, this is probably one of the greatest songs ever written in
in the history of our scene. Like, you know, Fields Culpa's
from Illinois. They're from the same area as we
were, but the song's called an instrument by the Fields Culpa.
And if you listen, listen along the lyrics and you're like, the

(51:04):
first thought is like, who the fuck does that guy think he is?
But they backed everything up musically, sonically.
I don't know. Have you ever heard you guys
ever heard of the Field I. No.
I have not, but I'm listening tothis song right now and it's
very much something I would listen to, like very, very much.

(51:26):
Oh, this? Will be your new favorite band
for sure. It's a really exciting time
because Marky did the same thingthat I did when I got off the
road. I didn't listen to music.
I put all my stuff away. I put took all my posters down,
I took all my records down and II completely put that in a
corner for a while and got involved with some other stuff.

(51:47):
And slowly I started kind of tiptoeing back in.
And that's what he's doing rightnow.
And he's sending me little tracks that he's writing and
producing with a guy, and they're absolutely amazing.
Like he sent me a track that he was working on last week and now
I sent him back a picture of myself with tear streams running

(52:07):
on my eyes because they were beautiful.
So this song's giving me like, like first wave emo meets post
hardcore meets pretty pretty music, yeah, all pointed into
one like. Three piece bands, all
absolutely incredible musicians and everything that they're
saying in that song, they back up every word of it and they

(52:30):
always have. This sounds like 90s era J Tree
Records to me. Like, which is a huge
compliment. Like way into that so.
And also real creepy album cover.
Big fan of that, yeah. They would have been.
Felix Cop was the band that should have been the biggest
band in the world, and they never were.

(52:50):
And no one knows why. Facebook.
Crazy. I'm sure to check it out.
That's really rad. Oh man.
Fucking hey, I love when there'slove shit that pops up.
Love discovering new music. You love it and I love it.
And except when it's a one hit wonders episode, when you
shouldn't be discovering new music because the whole point of
one hit wonder is that everybody's supposed to know it.

(53:11):
Jason, Dude. Yeah, 54 monthly listeners.
I love the guy, I love the guy, but.
Love him to death. Bad at bad at picking songs to
the mixtape. Roderick, we're back over you,
buddy. All right, well, Speaking of
picking bad songs for the mixtape, I feel like this is
just going to bring this mixtapedown, but this this fits my

(53:32):
theme. I went with and so and I
absolutely love this song. And for some reason I'm in a pop
mood this week, I guess because I'm picking a Billy Eilish song,
but I'm going with the with whenthe party's over.

(53:53):
And I'll cry you around the fire.
It's over quiet. And I'll come in the home.
And I'm on my own. And I can lie, say I like it
like that, like it like that. So this seems counterintuitive

(54:17):
maybe to a do cool shit with thetime you have, but to me the
song is about like being in those moments of life that
aren't good too because that's an important part of life.
Like you can't be happy all the time.
You can't chase everything beinggood all the time.
Like when shit's bad or when you're forced to self reflect,
your times are rough. Like you have to sit in that.
So like living is fun and laughter, but it's also like

(54:39):
sadness and longing. And that's what the song feels
like to me, like someone coping with that stuff.
Plus Billy Eyelashes is has sucha freaking beautiful voice and
even though the song feels like a bit of a bummer, it makes me
feel good listening to it too. So I'm just, I don't know why it
popped in my head when it poppedin my head with this theme and I

(55:00):
don't even know why, but it feltlike it was meant for me to pick
it on this mixtape so. With no credentials and no
credibility, this is probably one of the most beautiful vocal
performances I've ever heard. Ever.
Like her delivery of this song, The vocal range that she covers
in this song, it is absolutely like there's nothing, there's

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nothing distracting from her vocal in this in this track.
It's just fucking perfect. And it is.
You're absolutely right. It is gorgeous.
Yeah, and there's there's something about like the lyrics
of this song. Obviously it's a well produced
song, like Phineas and her just crush it and all that stuff.
And the performance is great. I mean, the song has over 2
billion plays, so it's not like we're the only people that like

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it obviously. But but the lyrics are like
really well done. Like it is somebody trying to
live their life and have fun. I mean, literally, you know,
talking about going to a party at times.
Like there's, there's all this stuff, but at the same time,
it's about taking that car ride alone at the end of the day.
And like this isn't working out and you have to sit in that too.

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And I just think it's a really beautiful picture of like actual
moments in life that are also important.
And it's not all, you know, sex,drugs and rock'n'roll and
partying with your friends and having a great time.
It's this shit too, and that's what makes life beautiful.
So getting a little sentimental on this episode, I guess.
But I mean, that's. What it's all about, man.
Again, Yeah. So it's just, but it's it's also

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a banger. Hey, man, it's also a it's also
a banger. So Billy Eilish and I think she
has been on the pod. No, she hasn't been on the pod
this first time. She's been Eilish too.
Yeah. Yeah.
Five, I mean 575 songs. No, I lied.
Shit, I lied. The Barbie song was on Carlene

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to pick the Barbie song on songs.
Yeah. Great call.
OK, that's all right. Me.
Yeah, great call. It's you fucking me.
All right, let me get my list. OK, let's take it back up to
have a good time and another artist that somehow has not
made. I'm stoked with the artists that

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are making the mixtape for this episode because Chromeo hasn't
made it on yet. Dude I'm fuck yeah.
I've been so close to picking Chromeo before but I never have.
And I like, I didn't want to go,I didn't want to go like
straight down the lane. So I did 100%.
Well, if it's all right, 100%, it's a lot more.

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I want to let you know. I won't let you go until you say
please girl, if it's all right. A 100%.
Off of fancy footwork, I didn't want to pick fancy footwork, but
100% is like the ultimate groovesong like soundtrack doing cool

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shit 100% makes you feel good. Like great beat, great rhythm,
like awesome awesome Chromeo song and what a cool couple of
dudes just crushing it. And if you ever watch.
It. Their reels or tik toks or
whatever they put out. Oh no.
Dude, they literally put them put out videos of just them

(58:20):
making a song in the studio, like the two of them like like
kind of like they're like a process video and then it's a
song and then they put it out. It's it's incredible.
Like they're incredible musicians.
I don't know if people know thatabout them because they're like
party kind of party, whatever they are, whatever genre you
consider them in. But dudes are like insanely
great musicians. Like dude just plays a lick on

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the organ and pulls up the bass and drops like a bass line and
then like rolls up with like a talk box guitar out of nowhere.
Like, yeah, dude, they're, they just seem rad and like the best
homies and that they just know what they're doing.
And like consistently crushing it for a long time.

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Dave wanted P thug. I mean, like, how long have
these dudes been doing? It I don't know, like I only
like I knew them when that record came out, but I'm I'm
sure they were around before then and they're still doing
stuff now and they're still playing shows and touring.
They're still looking like a million freaking bucks.
I know I didn't, I didn't look it up, but their 5th LP came out
in 2018 so they had five albums out.

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Like one of the most iconic Chromeo moments for me still now
was there live from Daryl's house performance, which if you
haven't watched please immediately when you're done
doing this, go watch them play at Daryl Hall's house and it's
Chromio and Darrell Hall doing Hall and Oates covers with
Chromium. You never.
Watch. You know what that's sparking?

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That's sparking some kind of memory for me.
I don't know if I've ever watched that.
Like no can do on talk box and man eater.
Dude, dude, I have seen, I have seen clips of this.
You're you're, you're pulling the memory out.
I have seen clips of. I haven't seen the whole thing
though. Forever ago, like I remember
watching it on like PBS, like when Live from Daryl's House was

(01:00:04):
on PBS. It's fucking fantastic.
Go watch the whole thing, enjoy every second of it.
But Chromeo had not made it on amixtape up to this point and
they deserve to be on. Looks like their first single
was in 2003 and then they put out a single this year so.
Jam. 22 years still still rocking it still.

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Crushing it. Wow.
I can't think it's been 20 years.
That's crazy. Yeah, fucking a Yeah, I can't go
for that. It's a long track, but like just
a perfect like get in your car on like a 90° summer day, roll
down the windows, don't put the air on and go drive in the city,

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any city and just have this playing and have this for doing
cool shit. Have just have this song
playing. I set the scene.
Make that happen. I'm surprised they didn't get
bigger the way like the way likethat.
That last Daft Punk record sounds like Chromia, right?
Like, and Chromia was not. I'm not saying Daft Punk, like
Daft Punk just tried to make a 70s disco record, but Chromia's

(01:01:09):
been doing that like disco thingfor years and doing it just as
well. Like I forgot about this record,
dude. Just putting this 100% song on.
I remember this song. I remember listening to this
record. It's it's giving me the same
vibes as that. 5 records. What was the year 1 for that?
The first Chromia record. 2003. Yeah.
I the first single was 2003. It looks like the first album

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was 2004. She's in Control 2004.
There's got to be some influencethere with Daft Punk and
Chromeo. I mean, when, when did that?
When did the last Daft Punk record come out?
Random Access Memories, 2013. So good pick, Don.
Yeah. 500 some episodes no or 500 some songs No Chromeo yet?
We're good to go. Garrett.

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Over to you for your third pick,bud. 3rd pick.
I think I'm going to go with thelive version of Brick of Unfolds
now that. I've found someone that I have

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arrived before. She's breaking up.
The the live version I'm talkingabout too is it's live at the

(01:02:37):
Warfield San Francisco 2017. God I love a live version.
OK, Have you heard the story of,obviously this song, whether you
know it or not, the song is about him and his girlfriend
getting an abortion and the car ride home after leaving, you
know, getting the abortion. And there was a performance
where he played the song live. And the the end, I think it's

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the end of the song with the bridge build up.
And he just starts like smashinghis guitar or his piano with his
hand. And he broke his hand.
And then he finished the song with a broken hand.
And it's like probably one of the top five most emotional
musical performances you've everseen in your life for me.

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And I've seen a lot of them. So it didn't really fit.
That's amazing. Theme.
But you know, we're talking about kind of the emotional
connection of music and I thought so I put that on my list
because that was one of the the wildest performances and other
scene. This theme seems like it's kind
of whatever we want it to be, sofits the theme if you say it.

(01:03:42):
Can you imagine though, Like to have to get up and play that
song? And I've got some songs that are
heavy, you know, but to to have to get up and like you're Ben
Folds and you have an auditoriumfull of people cheering and
happy. And then here's my biggest song
about my girlfriend's abortion we had to have.
Yeah, yeah, I play Brick every night.
Can you imagine that? Like that's, that's heavy.

(01:04:03):
That's a heavy thing to revisit every day.
And you're, you're not playing to 20 people ever.
You're Ben Folds. No, you're playing to theater.
And you're, you're singing joyfully about that.
Yeah. So let me ask you a question,
Garrett. Are you the your heaviest of
songs? Are you avoiding them, or are

(01:04:25):
you playing them live because it's what the audience wants to
hear? For us, we're, we're like a
blender of we have one guitar player that plays an orange and
has 40 pedals and we have another guitar player that plays
an axe effect and has no pedals and he plays through amp
modeling software. And like we're just like a

(01:04:45):
really unique blend of things. So the two new songs that we
wrote, there's a line in the sand and there's one straight up
pop rock song and there's one straight up heavy post hardcore
song with blast beats as the outro, which you've never done
in the career band before. So my idea of what I what I'd

(01:05:05):
like to do, you know, when you, you come back to the stage of
your career where everybody's doing other things and you're
busy and you can't really tour full time anymore.
You have to make that decision of do you want to grow or do you
want to sustain and give music to the people that that like you
and support you forever. And if you're not touring,
you're not, you know, you're notgrowing, you're not touring.

(01:05:27):
So you reach a point where it's like somebody give me 50 grand
and let me go record 8 more tracks and do this concept.
And I want, I have this concept I've always wanted to do and
we've never done it, but I want to do this dual EP packaged AS25
song EPS. It's a rib cage and you break

(01:05:48):
the ribs on the right side and it's got really warm yellows and
and oranges and it's very warm and it's like a light.
So that's the pop direction. And then you break the ribs on
the other side, it's very cold and Gray and blue and stormy and
that's the dark. And the dark is just straight up
fast melodic hardcore and the light is pop rock.

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And you're doing it as one band,but instead of trying to put
those different variables and heavy music and songs with
choruses, you're just splitting it in half and then presenting
it as this product that's packaged with this absolutely
mind blowing artwork. That's really cool.
That's fucking awesome. Yeah, not many bands fucking a

(01:06:32):
have the capacity to do that. Or, you know, not many bands,
not many bands are capable of doing that, honestly.
But yeah, I would love to do that.
Yeah, that's fucking red. Roderick, over to you.
Bring us home #4 What do you got?
Great question. You sound stressed.
You sound stressed. Man, I've got 2.

(01:06:53):
I think I'm going to pick one just because I feel like my we
just had two kind of bummery songs in a row between me and me
and Garrett. And so I'm going to go with the
most upbeat song I have left here.
So this is kind of a straight uppop rock band.
I don't know if you've ever heard of Beach Weather with the

(01:07:13):
song Sex, Sex, Drugs, etcetera. Half love, half a Gray dress
enough for Polaroids and cigarettes.
Socialize. Romanticize alive.

(01:07:44):
Which what I like about this song is it's not actually about
like sex and drugs and stuff. It's basically like the
introverts version of like live fast die Young, which is kind of
like hey, I'm just out. I'm just looking for good vibes.
I'm just looking to enjoy life, but I'm not trying to get caught
up in like the race to like livethe biggest, best whatever.

(01:08:05):
I'm not trying to like strive for some romanticized version of
what I'm doing. I'm just here for vibes, man.
I'm just want to feel good whileI'm here and and it's really
good. It's it's pretty big song.
I don't really know much about beach weather.
I kind of just. Know.
Yeah dude, the the vocalist reminds me and again, I really

(01:08:25):
only know this song so any big beach weather fans out there?
I apologize if this isn't what you think, but the vocalist
reminds me a lot of like Glass Animals vocalist.
Yeah, it sounds like. That and I kind of would put
them in that, except they're a little less like dancey kind of
stuff. But alt pop band is what they're
described as. That sounds right.

(01:08:47):
That sounds about right. But not in the direction of K
Flay being alt pop. This is alt pop.
Like alt pop rock. Kind of.
Yeah. I don't know who are the similar
artists on here. Like, I don't know how to
describe this band. Arctic Monkeys?
Sure. I see that one for sure, yeah.
Lana Del Rey, okay. Phoebe Bridgers following the
indie rock Believe it or not, Rod picked an indie rock song.

(01:09:08):
Yeah, look at, look at me picking glass animals.
There we go. Who would have thought Indie I?
Would call them a little more pop, but they definitely are
like indie pop. So sure, indie rock.
Well, you know what, you know the one I didn't pick was it was
Arctic Monkeys songs. So it was going to be, it was
going to be indie or extra indie1/2 so.
Yeah, you, you went indie. OK, fucking A It's a good song.

(01:09:31):
Yeah, great job. Hey this this mixtape is like
hitting all the genres though. It's killing it.
We're hitting every genre. You pick a country song, we've
got them all. I'm just saying.
Yeah, don't tell me with a good time.
Yeah, I got 3 left, but I can only pick one.
And here's the thing that sucks is that my other two picks are
so good that I want to use them on mixtapes in the future.

(01:09:53):
And I don't love using an honorable mention on a mixtape,
but I'm going to do it anyway. And the song I'm going to pick
is Yours to Keep by the Teddy Bears.

(01:10:27):
And prior to this, as I decided that this song was going to be
on the mixtape, I had the best Charlie Brown dance sesh to this
song where you pick a Charlie Brown dance and you just do it
to this, you know, like where you did the same move over and
over again. And if this song isn't the
anthem to a Charlie Brown dance sesh, then I don't want to be a

(01:10:48):
part of it. But yours to keep on the teddy
bears is feel good, having an awesome time doing cool shit,
Charlie Brown dancing and that'swhy the teddy bears made it.
I love I love you picking an indie rock band.
There was AI have a vivid memoryof you asking me years ago if I

(01:11:08):
liked teddy bears. Yeah.
And me being like, I've never heard of teddy bears.
And you're like, yo, is this band.
They wear teddy bear masks. And I remember seeing this album
cover. I remember showing their masks
cover the Rock'n'roll High School.
It's they're full heads. They're they're full teddy bear
heads that go over their. Head Oh wow, have you guys ever
heard of Here Come the Mummies? Yes, I.
Don't think so. Here come the mummies.

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All wear mummy costumes. You can't see who they are, but
it's always like some some crazy.
They're a super group of different musicians and they
swap out members all the time. I think they're like a 12 piece
band and there's always different musicians that that go
and play the sets and they're like elite level, like John
Mayer's guitar, you know, lead guitar player or, or he wouldn't

(01:11:55):
have a lead guitar player, but John Mayer's piano player will
be that guy that night. And then Phil Collins's drummer
will be this guy that night or, you know, not Phil Palace's
trouble, you know what I'm saying?
But they'll have just these elite level musicians and
they're playing to like whatever, if they played in
Rockford to like a block party. And some of these guys like

(01:12:18):
people have no idea what they'rewatching.
Like they know they're watching a good band.
They have no idea. Like the level of musicianship
that's involved and what's incredible.
Yeah, I know then, because when I lived in Indy, they would be
on Bob and Tom all the time doing like live sets on Bob and
Tom when Bob and Tom was syndicated, like Nationwide.
And, and yeah, they would go on these like Nationwide tours and
they'd play places like the Miraor the House of Blues or they

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play these big fests and fairs and stuff.
And I, I had always heard that too, Garrett.
I'd never heard like anybody's theory on who they were, but I
always heard it was like a bit of a rotating group of just
like, really, really incredibly talented musicians.
Yeah, they're dressed up like mummies.
People don't even understand what they're witnessing.
They just know they're seeing some guys in mummy costumes and
they're, you know, they're drinking some beers and watching

(01:13:00):
some mummies play saxophone likethey have no idea what they're
watching. Dirty Minds by Here Come the
Mummies is one of my favorite scrubs moments of all times
where like JD and Elliott are getting together for like 1 of
the first song first times and this is the song that plays.
What's even more fucked up This Is Too Deep is that on the DVD

(01:13:22):
it's a different song in this moment than it is on television
because they couldn't get the licensing for syndication, but
they got it for the DVDs. So it's a different song that
plays on the DVDs, Scrubs episodes than what plays on
syndication. On syndication, here come the
Mummies, Dirty Minds, the song that plays when Jading and

(01:13:44):
Elliot first started. Dating, watching them and I'm
like, I know that I'm watching something phenomenal.
You can tell. Just just watch him play.
And my friend's dad was doing sound that night for them and
meant or he was he was running bored.
They had their own sound guy, ofcourse, but he was like, you
know what this band is, don't you?
I'm like, no, no, they're they're awesome.
Never heard of them before. He's like that guy.

(01:14:05):
And he started like pointing out, you know, this guy does
this for this this band, this guy does this for this band.
And I can't remember offhand running the bands were, but they
were big bands. So he's like, did they have
dozens of members in this group?But they sub them out all the
time and fly around and play festivals and, you know, but
they're, they're a. Bunch of hired guns, yeah.
Like crazy talented hired. Guns.

(01:14:27):
That's so cool. That's awesome.
First off, it's wild. Of course you're going to pull
out a Scrubs reference after yousay you don't know who that band
is and they're like oh wait, I know the song.
It's in this exact scene in Scrubs, but only on syndication
if that's the most you. Think I've.
Ever heard? What do you what do you know
anything about teddy bears though?
Like your pick? Like I'm reading about them and
I'm like, who the fuck are theseguys?

(01:14:47):
So it was Teddy bears. Stockholm, I think originally
was the name of the band and then they changed it to just
teddy bears. And the main thing I know yours
to keep was from an old Snowboard DVD back in the day.
And I remember this song, like being the anthem of that
Snowboard DVD, and it's fucking awesome.

(01:15:08):
Listen to to the artists they'vehad features on songs on various
albums. I'm just going to listen to
artists. These aren't people they've
toured with. These are artists they've had on
their songs, OK Iggy Pop, Mad Cobra, Bob Eve, the B50 Twos,
Robin, Cee Lo Green, The FlamingLips.
That's all over the place, dude.And there's more on here.
I just don't know some of these people.
It's so. All over the place.

(01:15:30):
And they're guitar players. Also the guitar player for the
Caesars, which is the Jerk It Out band.
I don't know. I don't know the Caesars, no.
You know the Caesars, you know, Jerk it Out has 350 million.
Plays. You know that song down for
sure. Come on and jerk it out.
That's the best. Oh yeah, yeah.

(01:15:51):
Great. I know.
I I didn't know what it was until you just.
Got that. Like Oregon at the beginning.
Like the Yeah, no. For sure.
No, I just need to hear you singit and I'm good.
So, same guitar player, teddy bears and Caesars.
The Caesars, yeah, who I didn't know were Swedish.
So I'm learning all kinds of shit.
Dude, you're teaching. The teddy bears are fucking
awesome and this is a great goodtime song that I would encourage

(01:16:12):
you all again. You guys have a lot of homework.
You need to have a Charlie Browndance sesh to teddy bears after.
Which one can I? Can I ask which Charlie?
You said you have to pick one ofthem.
Which one did you pick? And I'm guessing you say 1 of
them? You just have to make up your
own Charlie Brown. Oh, you make up your own type, I
thought. I'm picturing the scene in the
Christmas special when all the kids and Snoopy are dancing on
the stage and they all have their own signature dance.

(01:16:33):
Yeah, for sure. So you make your.
Own Can I just pick one of those?
Can I just pick one of those? Yeah, you can be an original,
that's fine. Fair enough.
They just all look fun, yeah? They all look great, Garrett.
It is your final choice. It is your last contribution to
the mixtape. OK, so fitting with the theme of
do cool shit with your time here.

(01:16:55):
So I, I've had so many like awesome epiphany moments happen
in all my years touring and, andall my adventures, you know, the
band and I picked an artist thatI met.
So I told you about that duration time where I didn't go
to any shows. I wasn't really listening to
music. I was listening to like
podcasts. I was just like kind of shut

(01:17:16):
out, shut out music for a while.So I went to Cobra Lounge and I
went and saw a band that I've I've enjoyed for a long time
called The Dangerous Summer and they had an opener called Corey
Wells, Cory Wells. And you know what?
You go to a show for a headline that you're a fan of and then

(01:17:38):
there's this opening band that just like changes everything for
you and you're like, never heardof them before your first time
ever. And you're just like, you have
paralysis watching them play because they're so good.
So this was this was that for meand their guitar player.
They had this stage left guitar player.
They had all these pedals and hehad all this cool ambience

(01:18:00):
coming out of his guitar and crazy gear.
So I'm like watching this band and I'm like, this is my new
favorite band. He's got a song called Patience.
I picked that song. Corey Wall's Patience.
It seems to. Make.
This go away, it is never endingright?

(01:18:20):
And I've got hope for this because I know so.
So watch the band play, they getdone, they go back to their, you

(01:18:43):
know, to load up or whatever, and the guitar player dude goes
out to the merch table. So we're kind of hanging out
chitchatting, go go look at merch and you know, if they have
an album for sale or a vinyl or something.
And the dude had a he was standing there talking to
somebody and I like kind of walked up to tell him great set.

(01:19:03):
I'm a huge fan of you guys afterseeing that like awesome set.
And he was like kind of like taken aback a little bit.
And this band isn't from anywhere around here.
They're from, I want to say theywere from the East Coast, like
over where dangerous summers from.
And he he kind of was like, yeah, man, I, I know who you are
and I'm like, OK, I'm, you know,being normal.

(01:19:27):
And he, he had no hope tattoos on his knuckles from our third
album. And he was like, yeah, dude, I
saw you standing there watching and like, I was super excited.
I hope I can catch you at the end of the night to show you my,
my no hope tattoo. And it was just like that really
crazy epiphany moment where I don't know you, I'm watching you

(01:19:48):
play and I'm a new giant fan of your band.
And the whole time you were a fan of my band and we had that
really sacred connection. And it was just like a really
moving and powerful moment to methat you always need to be
honest and, and sustain your integrity and your art.
Because that moment coming back to me like probably changed the

(01:20:12):
next chapter of my musical life.Damn, that's really?
Cool. Yeah.
And I, I've listened to that band ever since and I've tried
to catch him. He tours here and there.
He doesn't tour a ton, but the the guitar player's name was
Jesse and and the the artist's name is Corey Wells.
And that song Patience, I I justwas so fascinated watching him

(01:20:32):
play that night, just how how good he was vocally and how how
good his band was. It was just A, and then that
whole conversation and connection at the merch table
afterwards, like, wow, this is, I probably haven't felt so
irrelevant as I do right now in this moment in my life, in my
life. And then I meet that guy.

(01:20:54):
And then that happens at the merch table.
And it's just like a you need toget out of your own head and
kind of get back to work and do it for the right reason.
Yeah. So it's really cool.
Yeah. It's it's an amazing story that
you would never think would takeplace at the Cobra Lounge.
Yeah, of all venues, yeah. Like, I don't know, I don't know

(01:21:15):
very many people that have left the Cobra Lounge walking out.
It's usually kind of a pushed out of the Cobra Lounge type
situation. So props to you guys for a
special moment there. Yeah.
It was cool. And I keep.
That's really cool. Still to this day, since Jesse's
could do great, it's. Hard.
That's really cool, yeah. But yeah, that that whole Corey

(01:21:36):
has an EP called. No, it's a, it's AOP the way we
are. That whole album front to back,
just fantastic. That's really cool.
I'm excited to check that out. Really cool thing about like
grew up kind of like on his Spotify, grew up kind of playing
metal until he heard Dashboard Confessional unplugged and then
started a little bit more acoustic exploration, which is

(01:21:58):
pretty rad. Yeah, Don is that, has that ever
happened to you where you've seen an opener that stuck with
you more than the band you were there to see?
That's how I found Ben Queller the first time, and I think he
actually opened for Saves the Day, and I want to say it was
maybe at the House of Blues in Chicago.
That was where I first saw Ben Queller opening for.

(01:22:19):
And it might have been the bug sessions too, because I think it
might have been all acoustic. Fantastic.
Yeah. Back, back to our intro.
His new album is great. Ben Quellers have you?
Yeah. No, I got to listen to that.
Is it? Is it good?
Really good. It's really sad.
His. His.
Damn it. Yeah, it's his son passed away a
few years ago and it's a lot about that and stuff, but it's,

(01:22:40):
it's a fantastic record. He's on tour right now, like
he's through it and like he's telling stories about his about
fatherhood and stuff on stage and playing music and it's the
record's fantastic. I saw I had an interesting, like
I saw this, I saw Metric once and this band opened for them
called July Talk, and they work.They crushed it.
And then they were a little different because then I went

(01:23:00):
and listened to him. I'm like, yeah, they're fine.
Like they're fine. There's just great life.
Like they murdered the show and then, you know, went and
listened to him and I'm like, eh, maybe I'd like him more if I
was more into that stuff. Like I I like Metric fine, but
it's not like I'm obsessed with Metric.
So this band was just. But yeah, I remember them being
great, so. I just had the same experience

(01:23:23):
with microwave. Like I had listened to microwave
before and I was like, they're fine.
And then I saw microwave live open for rise against and I'm
like, microwave's fucking awesome.
And then I went. Back and it's.
Yeah. Yeah, it's impressive to be that
great live and like it sometimesmakes me wonder why it's like be
that good on. Yeah, be that good on.
Your recording a. Couple of things.

(01:23:43):
So #1 tightest band I've ever seen in my life.
Misery Signals. We toured with Misery Signals
and I watched them every night. We took the tour.
We were the direct support band and we took the tour.
As I get to go to a Misery Signal show for free every
night, that was like our mentality.
And that's the tightest band I've ever seen in my life.

(01:24:06):
Of all the years and all the shows and all the tours, Misery
Signals is the number one tightest band I've ever seen.
And that they're like borderlinemath rock too.
Like, they are not, they are nota fucking typical hardcore band.
Like, there is a lot of technical shit in there.
Garrett, fire out your or no RodGarrett fire out your honorable

(01:24:27):
mentions. We'll go reverse order for
honorable mentions. You got a couple of songs that
didn't make the cut. Yeah, let me go back.
Let me go at least a second. OK, cool.
Roderick, go. What are your?
What are your sounds? Yeah, yeah, I had just a few.
So Arctic Monkeys Riot Van, which is a weird song because
it's like really slow. It's just like a tremolo guitar
and him singing it sounds like almost a ballad.

(01:24:47):
But the whole thing is about a bunch of teenagers, like picking
fights with cops because they'rejust out having a fucking good
time. Fantastic song idols Mr.
Motivator just a pump up song and then kind of a corny band,
but I do like that song. Sweet disposition by temper Trap
I. Don't know how much temper trap
or do I know this song and I don't know this song You.
Probably don't know any temper trap except this song.

(01:25:09):
You just don't know. It's by a band called Temper
Trap, which she is fine. Sweet disposition by temper
trap, you know it. OK, I trust you.
It sounds like you 2 and I don'tlike you 2 but but it's because
OK, let me rephrase. It sounds like Edge on guitar,
but then a totally different singer and a totally different.
Thing yeah, I know the song. Yeah, you're good.

(01:25:30):
I know the song. Yep, great cop.
All right, I'll fire mine on. I only have two.
I had float on by Modest Mouse just such a fun like it had to
be just a a great fucking song. And then my other one, which I I
still want to save for another mix tape, is the band is college
and the song is a real hero and it's featuring Electric Youth.

(01:25:52):
And if you've ever seen the movie drive at the very end,
like as it's all over, this is like the song that's playing the
mountain to the credits. It is fucking fantastic.
Probably a perfect song. The band is college.
The song is I know the. Hero, I know this song.
Yeah, it's fantastic. It is.

(01:26:15):
It's a great fucking song. But I, I these will make their
way on the mixtape, but it's still gonna live as an honorable
mention for right now. All right, Gary, now you got to
give us yours. All right, so in light of my
recent Nightmare on Elm Street pinball machine purchase.
Congratulations again. So rad, dude.
It's it's upstairs right now. It's in my house.
It's so cool. Like I put drama Rama, anything,

(01:26:37):
anything. That is the song that in
Nightmare on Elm Street 4, Andres Rick in the movie is
doing karate in the garage. And I, I wanted to be that guy
for over the years of my life, probably still to this day.
Yeah, good. I mean, still, definitely still
now. He's a musician and he's got a
Spotify channel. Oh yeah.

(01:26:59):
Yeah, and it's it's like singer,folk writer, kind of
singer-songwriter. Yeah, I, I love that drama Rama
song. Just really like grungy rock,
drivey kind of song. But it I just thought of it
because of the pinball machine upstairs.
Yep, got to do cool shit. I'm going to go with that and
I'm going to go with Justin Ozuka after tonight.

(01:27:22):
We're talking about kind of pop songs and I didn't really have a
pop song in the list yet. So that is Justin Ozuka's
another one of my biggest influences as a as a
singer-songwriter. That is like his big song that
went pop and mainstream and he'snow very like experimental and
very he's like an acoustic singer-songwriter.

(01:27:47):
You know what? It categorized him.
He's very experimental right now.
So he's like self producing and self recording.
But that after tonight's song, listen to that chorus one time
and it's stuck in your head for the rest of your life.
Oh yeah. And it's upbeat and happy.
It's very poppy. Beautiful.
All right, let me fire through this list.
OK? We have K Flay High enough.

(01:28:10):
We have Led Zeppelin. Diner Maker.
We have Sean Price, MF Doom and Ike Eyes.
The song is Negus. Foo Fighters.
I'll stick around. Madness.
One step beyond the Felix culpa,An instrument.
Billy Eilish When the party's over.
Chromeo 100% Ben Folds. The song is brick, but it's the

(01:28:30):
live version at Warfields in SanFrancisco.
We got beach weather, sex, drugs, etcetera.
Yours to keep by teddy bears andCorey Wells.
Patience. That's a hell of a this is all
over the place. All over the place.
All over the place, I knew it would be.
That's exactly how it should be.That's going to be a fun listen.
This one's going to get. Listened to you will be

(01:28:52):
responsible for sequencing thesesongs.
So, OK, high stakes because we're heavy critics when it
comes down to if it's the right order or not.
Yeah, we always say that and then we rarely ever actually
talk about. That we rarely talk about it,
but the judge there will be judge.
But we think it. We think.
It is like a night of drinking heavily because you're going to
get you're going to be in a party rock mode and then you're

(01:29:13):
going to be in a really emotional mode and then you're
going to recovery mode. I love it.
It's got a little bit of everything.
Thanks for. Coming on, Garrett, it's nice to
meet you. Man.

(01:29:33):
My pleasure. Congratulations, When are the
new songs out? We don't know and it's awesome
not knowing and not. Having them on.
When are the new fucking songs out?
Don't give us this. We don't know.
No, we're do we, do we put them out or do we have somebody buy
them and then somebody puts themon for us that's.
Where we're at, are we waiting days or are we waking months or

(01:29:54):
are we waiting months? All right, little fingers
crossed, but new color morale 2 new tracks in the near future.
The poppiest song we've ever written was a band.
This one, yeah. And I think it's can't wait to
hear it Can't wait to fucking hear.
It yeah. First, first, first release.
And how long? Garrett, 2000. 17 was the last
that one. OK, so it's been 8-8 years

(01:30:16):
since. Yeah.
All right. Well.
That's amazing. Well, Congrats on that too.
Look forward to hearing him. Play some pinball until his
fingers go no. Yeah, go play some pinballs,
yes. Yes.
I. Will, fantastic.
Thank you so much for hanging out with us dude.
Yep. Thanks guys.
I appreciate it. Absolutely.
Thank you buddy. It's been talking to.
You guys.

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