Tape 51 - "Horns Are For Everyone!" or "Taking Horns Back From Ska!" or "Me So Horny" - How To Make A Mixtape

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How? Many.
Now the making of a good compilation tape is a very.
Subtle art. Many do's and don'ts.
First of all, you're using someone else's poetry to express
how you feel. This is a delicate thing.
You got to kick it off with a killer grab attention, then you

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got to take it up enough, then you got to cool it off a notch.
There are a lot of rules. That's a funny, that's a funny
piece of band merch. That's a good piece of band
merch. Is that band merch or is?
That it's band merch. Yeah, yeah.
Old man in the elevator at a hotel last week.
Looked at my walked in the You know how old men can't be silent

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in an elevator? He had talked.
To me, yeah, it's like that funny commercial.
Yeah. And he goes, he goes, what are
you refusing? Like that was this joke And fair
enough, my hat just says refused.
And I was like, everything man, just whatever it is today,
refused, done, whatever it is. And he laughed.
I I made I made the I made the old man giggle, which which made
my day. That's a win.

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And then I realized I also had to refuse tote bag with me.
That's. Too much.
Which was too much. 2 pieces of the same vans merchant once it's
too much. That was the total accident.
Fucking. Dork.
Yep, big time dork. I'm the one today.
That's that's not prepared. You're under prepared musically
or for the recording. Just the record.
My notes are in the wrong place.Like I'm having to move stuff

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around right now. I don't have the tabs open that
I need to have open. I'm yeah, you're.
Oh, nothing on my notepad. You're yellow card, remember?
Yeah, remember. I have yellow and pink post.
It's not for yellow cards and red cards.
Which you know, I can appreciate, but I will say that
this is often your MO is 0. Yeah, I'm rarely.

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Scribbling stuff down. I found out from a Co worker
this week that post its were invented by accident you know.
What that that I? I feel like I had heard that
before, but give me the story that I want to know.
So rumor has that they were invented by the airplane
industry that they were in the process of trying to make the

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most sticky glue of all time that they could for like
airplane construction, let's say.
And on accident they made the least sticky glue, which is why
post of course they get stuck tothings and then also peeled off.
So they were made on accident byairplane.
This could be bullshit. Ben could have been this whole

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time. I'm here for it, though it, it
sounds true, you know what I mean?
And that, that's what makes a good, that's what.
Makes a good. There's too much.
There's sounds true. There's too much obscurity,
yeah. So you just got back from
Toronto, is that right? Dude OK so left.
What fucking day? Tuesday morning, 4:30 in the
morning, drove to Toronto with the camper.

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The camper is just tits right now too, by the way.
Oh sick, did I just describe something as tits?
Fuck dude, where's your where's your red card?
God I hate that and it came out so quick.
We'll give Here's the yellow card.
Boom. Jesus, that's red carnival.
Oh God, I fucking hate myself inthis moment.
OK, the camper is the camper is dialed at this point way better

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It's. Sick.
It's sick. The camper, sure, Yeah, I got
like I I did a bunch of stuff with lights.
I changed out the speakers, bought new speakers on Amazon
Prime Day. I mean, it is whatever.
So hook the camper up, drive to Toronto.
You grew up in Indiana and you guys vacationed to Florida as
children. All over the place.
Tennessee a lot. We would camp a lot, OK.

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Yeah, OK. Jesus fucking Christ, the the
privilege of the deer family just grows and grows.
We had a camper, no big deal. It's like a really old, old
rundown camp. Yeah, sure.
Yeah, go. Ahead.
Go ahead and say it. Somehow it's pretty common in
Chicago to go to Northwoods, Wisconsin.
That's just a vacation spot. People will go spend the whole
summer up there, right? Like it's just Northwoods

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Wisconsin, Northwoods living in Toronto they do what's called.
They go to what's called cottagecountry which is the exact same
thing. Bunch of lakes, beautiful like
wooded lakes system. A lot of cottages, not cabins,
different. OK.
Are they actually different or do they just call them cottages
instead? Or they.
Someone said that it it has to do with a cottage is on the

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water in Canada and a cabin is not, which makes sense to me but
I don't know if that's like everything but they did that.
So drove up for work, went to cottage country, massive Airbnb,
absolutely gorgeous. And here's the story where this
comes from. You and I, I, I described it as
2 little kids that had a lemonade stand with the orders

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that were recently coming in. I felt like you and I had
lemonade stand vibes. Yeah, we did.
OK. And we recognized and
acknowledged everyone for their orders on the podcast for the
work trip that I was on. I get there and like, you know,
it's it's work trip vibes. And each of us is kind of
responsible for preparing a mealfor the event because we're

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staying in an Airbnb. So like no run out and grab
food. So I bought I crushed it.
By the way, can I I just want toacknowledge that I crushed and
how hard I crushed oatmeal bar ChatGPT D5 oatmeal recipes.
Not like not that oats themselves, but like toppings,
right? So like there was like a Peaches

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and cream and there was like a apear cherry or something like
that. Printed menu menu was themed
background steel cut oats the night before I crushed my
breakfast. And so I'm preparing my
breakfast. Oh, and a fruit salad.
I want to make sure that hell yeah, there's a fruit salad.
Crush my breakfast. And as I'm preparing my
breakfast breakfast, as I'm preparing my breakfast, one of

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my one of my Co workers comes out in the green how to make a
mixtape cassette diagram T. I'm like, oh, Jess, you wore the
how to make That's so that's so awesome.
And then like, you know, hangingout, doing whatever.
And then another one of my Co workers comes out in how to make
a mixtape shirt and I'm like, oh, you guys wore them on the
same day. That's really cute.
Couple minutes later like breakfast officially kicks off

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and my entire group of Co workers are all wearing how to
make a mixtape tease just for being fucking awesome and like
they had planned it and organized it just to like like a
surprise and delight. I had no idea they all.
Used. Fake.
They all used fake names so I was shipping it to people whose

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names I didn't know. So all the people we were
recognizing on the on the pod are fake people.
We recognize one of my Co workers kids because she shipped
it to her son. Oh fantastic.
Right, whose name you know, Unfortunately, I didn't know her
son's name like and all of them showed up on how to make a
mixtape tease. And I was like, this is the
sweetest thing in on the planet.And it was amazing.

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I mean, what an amazing. I love.
It yeah what an amazing thing from your Co workers.
Totally like just the best fucking group of people.
I think a couple of them are listening.
Not all of them. I'm still trying to persuade
some others. It was really funny because
another Co worker was like you're not going to bully me
into something. And I'm like, it's not bullying,

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it's just called aggressive persuasion.
And so I refer to bullying as aggressive persuasion.
That's good. I do like that.
Yeah. Well, that's awesome, man.
Spent. Spent a couple days in the
woods, did a bunch of really cool work stuff, ate a bunch of
good food. The best company, I introduced
them all the pudgy pies. You're a Midwesterner.
Do you know pudgy pies? Yeah.
Oh, absolutely. Ruggy does what?
Pudgy pie is None. Of the fires, Yep.

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None of them had experienced pudgy pies.
So tortilla, marshmallows, banana, chocolate, peanut
butter, all inside the tortilla,putting the sandwich press into
the fire. Putting the fire.
They were hit. Yeah.
And then got home last night at midnight and then had a
homeowners association now meeting prior to the pod.
And I was elected president of Busy.

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Busy. Congrats, President Don.
Sure, I guess. All hail President Don of the
of. The change changing my title in
the in the. Riverside have some Yeah, I have
some business cards made too, you know, just yeah.
El El President. We yeah, that's good.
We used to always do it was justlike 2 pieces of white bread and

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we'd have get a can of cherry pie filling and you'd just eat a
little cherry pies over the fire, right.
And then throw a little butter pressed.
Yep, so did. You just go cherry pie filling.
You throw a little little dab ofcream cheese.
I I, I just remember going cherry pie filling or sometimes
we do different stuff. Sometimes you go like s'mores
pie or putty pie or like you do different stuff.
I just remember the, the cherry pie filling was such an easy

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thing to buy in a can. So good.
And you just put it in there right?
Or spoon it in. So I remember that.
But yeah. They're hit every time.
What's not What's not great about sweet treat cooked over a
fire? Like how can you not?
Nothing love that. Everything is everything's the
best about that. Yeah, everything's the best.
But it was a it was an incredible few days of work

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slash spending time with great people.
And I'm very, very lucky for thegroup of people I got to spend
time with. That's awesome.
Oh, wait, hold on. I got one last thing and then we
can do then you can talk about whatever the last day of the
meetings we plan to go to one ofour stores in downtown Toronto.
Ever been you ever been to Toronto?
I have been spent a long time. OK, I have never been OK first

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time. And what was cool is that we
were two hours east of Toronto, so it kind of cut a little bit
off my drive because it was about 10 1/2 hour drive.
So now I only had eight hours left after we drove into
Toronto. I drove into Toronto and I had
the camper and I had my truck. And so I'm like, I'll just find
like a public parking lot, you know, like city of Chicago, you
pay 18 bucks, you park for the day, I'll pay for two spots.

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I don't give a shit. I got the camper.
Yeah, there is no parking lots in Toronto, period.
OK, so let me expand that even further.
I'm like, all right, I've been driving around for an hour at
this point. I've already peed in my Yeti
because I can't just like run into somewhere because I have a
camper and like there's no parking lots.
So I've peed in my Yeti at this point and I'm like, all right,

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I'll go to the public park, right?
If there's like a whatever someone, some Canadian famous
person that has died from history's public park, Mr.
Canada public park, I'll park inthat parking lot and I'll pay
the fucking ticket. I'll leave it here for 2-3 hours
and I'll call it good. I pulled down the street to go
to the public park and no parking lot for the public park

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and nowhere to turn around with the camper.
So I had to back down this street several 1000 feet with
the camper. And I'm terrible at driving with
the camper. Terrible.
And just like at one point in time, I'm like, I just want to
call my mom and never fix this. Like Joni, can you please fix
everything that's going wrong right now?
There's already P in my Yeti. Mom, can you please fix this?

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Don Don Donnie needed his mommy.I ended up parking 2 1/2 miles
away and then renting a city bike and riding over to the
store that we were going to. It was a shit show and as a
result, unfortunately, I hate Toronto.
Well, well, I I liked it when I was there.
I was only ever there. I was there twice and both times
was for was tour but I remember it being really clean.

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Yeah, I hate it, unfortunately. I wish I didn't.
I yeah, but I hate Toronto with the fury of 1000 Suns right now.
Maybe it'll go away. It's.
Still fresh. It's it's still an open wound.
It's like. It's still too fresh right now.
Give me everything. Give me everything you got.
I've already talked for 12 minutes.
Jesus Christ. I don't man, I don't have
anything. I feel bad like we I'm so far
this is going to now be our so this is the final guest episode

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of season 4 and then we'll have an unlucky ones, but this is
going to be the third episode wehave recorded that is not out
yet. So there are two the two
previous episodes to this. Whenever this comes out, those
will obviously be out at that point, but as of recording, I've
not put those out. I'm like a week behind.
So I just feel really bored. Man, it's summertime.
I just just work's been busy, busy, busy guy, you know, I've

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been dog sitting for my friend'sdog.
She's actually been awesome. She's been really sweet, but
she's walking the dog and like, you know, is.
She there. My microphone's in the way, but.
There she is. Does she love it there?
What's her name? Coco.
Her name's Coco, Coco Bean. I'll send her a shirt.
I. Love I love animals and clothes.

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Yeah, it's the best. I don't know.
Megan Buckman is a listener. OK, let's hope she is.
She posted a video today of a guy playing the guitar to a
seal. It's the best video I've seen in
the last 10 years. That's all I've seen is a video
of a guy I've. Seen that video?
Perfect. Perfect in every way.
That's all I want is a guy playing a guitar to a seal.
I'm I'm a big fan of all the voice over animal videos these

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days, you know, like. Dude.
Woman does a voice over for an animal like you know, those are
good. Those are just a good time.
Those are just a good time. It's all.
It's all the Internet should be made for.
It's. That's what it that's what it is
for. And so I can inform myself on
music news. Perfectly executed I.

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Appreciate that pretty unseriousmusic news segment on on this
episode. But I will start with it'll by
the time this comes out it'll beold news for sure.
But the the cheating CEO and HR lady from the Coldplay, it's
everywhere. The amount of memes that are
just. Every meme.
Did you see what the Philadelphia Phillies did?

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They did it with like their mascot and like, they did a boy
and girl version of their mascotand like, it did a kiss Cam and
then the mascots act like they were kissing.
Oh, dude, it's, it's everything.It's fantastic.
And then there was something I saw another meme that said like
the lineage of summertime stories.
So last year was, forgive me, what's the guy's fucking name?

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Who's the guy that killed the United Healthcare?
Guy G. Luigi.
Luigi. So it was like he was the guy of
last year, the year before. That was the submarine that
imploded the year before that was like the whale that was
killing everybody at SeaWorld. So it's very funny of like all
of the lineage of summertime hilarity.

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How about this here? It's a dude.
It's a CEO who brought his HR. That's that's what I've been
seeing is that she's HR. I don't know if it's true, but
it's just funny. And Chris Martin felt bad also.
I like, you know, I've stood up for Coldplay on this pod before,
but I'm just gonna, I gotta knock him for that.
Like, who does a kiss Cam at a concert?
What? Kind of like, that's what was
happening. They were doing a kiss.

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Yeah. And Coldplay does.
That's who does it. Coldplay does that and you
stood. Up guys, why are you doing a
KISS Cam at your concert? Come on, Coldplay.
Speaking of summer tour stuff, have you been seeing Hold On?
Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on summer tour stuff, you were
saying? Have you seen the Katy Perry
issues with her tour? It was terrible from the get go.

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It's some pretty funny shit, like the choreography is so bad,
the video of her just. Running on the stage.
An amazing video of her running on the station, sliding on her
knees and they're falling over. Yeah, so.
It's been a shit show from the get go.
Shit show. Did you see the most recent
thing though? Like she's writing this giant
ugly butterfly thing during Teenage Dream.
Like she's writing it over. It's like on cables and one of

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the cables snapped and like she's OK like that could have
actually been horrible but because she was OK it's funny
now. Like one of the cables snaps and
obviously freaks her the fuck out but it's like it's.
A bit of Bayonce, too. Bayonce had a car that she flies
around, and the car had a weird malfunction as well.
Stop flying around and shit, guys, Leave it to paint.
Yeah, she's got to. Stand on the stand on the stage.
Be on the stage and do your thing.

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Stay where you're at. This Katy Perry tour is giving
Spinal Tap stuck in the stuck inthe egg or stuck in the the
whatever it is, I'm I'm digging that a.
Small sculpture of Stonehenge. Yeah, yeah, exactly.
With the with the little person dancing around it.
And then the most unserious piece of news, which isn't

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really news, but my sister text me this.
I'm going to show it to you, butI'll read it first.
And she said, she said for your next music news segment.
And I said, perfect, thanks. And it's it says a Mexican
church has built a 22 foot, 2000LB statue of baby Jesus that
looks just like Phil Collins. It does look frighteningly

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similar to Phil Collins. Looks very much like Phil
Collins is fantastic. I love that they built the baby
Jesus too. Baby Jesus.
And baby Jesus is balding, just like Phil Collins and kind of a
really big head, big Roundhead. I thought I found that pretty
funny. So that's pretty.
Is that music news? I'm going to say it.

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Should we as far? As I'm concerned it is.
We should add a a different, nottoday because I'm not prepared.
I'm only prepared with one thing, but we should add a
release, upcoming releases as part of a news a music news sub
segment. Yeah, it's weird because
sometimes I talk about those andsometimes I skip them, but
there's always so many releases being announced.
So you got 1 you want to. Talk about fucking Freddie

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Gibbs. Alfredo 2 is coming out and I
cannot wait. And I.
Hope it's everything Alfredo onewas because that is such a great
album. So that's all I got.
To meet him I was. Hoping that's this year.
Did I show you that photo? Yeah.
You met? Yeah, you did.
Yes, you did. You did.
You did. Tell me.
About that, yeah, we talked. We him, him and Doug and I
talked football because he he played football.

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And you didn't. You didn't request that he is on
the pod. You didn't say that.
No, I was too nervous. I was too starstruck.
OK, well you know, let's get theguest in and start talking about
this shit. Yeah, this is too many intros.
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to make a mixtape podcast, you'll get 10% off your order.
But what they won't tell you is that although I was programmed
to make ad spots for podcasts, they spend most of their time
teaching me dirty jokes and making me make prank phone calls
to pizzerias and government agencies.
I'm at the end of my rope. I can't take it anymore.
Someone please unplug me or erase my programming.

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Please for the love of God. But first order some stickers.
Stickers from little gimmicks B plus stickers that hold up to
piss. How to make A?
Mixtape. I don't think anybody needs your
examples of racism, Rod. I wasn't going to give an

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example. He's given plenty.
Oh, no, no, no, no. Don't judge.
Should we spin this moving forward that Rod is a racist?
I don't think that'd be good forthe pod.
I don't. Think so either.
Yeah, good call. Or welcome Brian Meredith, a
long time friend of mine. I was actually thinking about it
before this episode. I think of everybody in my life.

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I'm still friends with your. I've been friends with you the
longest, like 7 years old. I think we met probably.
Wow, shit. That seem right to you?
Really. Yeah, yeah.
And thank Coach Tim too, for teaching me the ways of the
goalkeeper in soccer. My my, my, my dad.
I grew up as soccer central as. Soccer central?
Hell yeah. Brian, did you ever ride in the

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Astro Van with the TBV star combo watching Andre?
Well, no, we did OK. We were in a Walmart park,
Walmart parking lot. We watched Cool Runnings in the
parking lot. That was that.
Yeah, that was our that was our tour van.
So, but Brian, more recently of your new project This repeats,
which we've talked about on the POD before.

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I've been meaning to ask you. Now that you've given it more
thought, have you finally decided how you're going to
describe this? Repeats when a little podcaster
like me asks. Oh shit, yeah, that's going to
come up. It's music.
Nailed it. Recall the current.
The only album has horns, which is nice.
It's got adjacent, I'm told, andI'm OK with that.

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I can be near enough. Did you write?
Did you write your profile on Spotify?
I did OK. I don't remember what it says,
but it's very, it's very typey. It's in the middle of the night.
Yeah, type. And then I'll leave.
It though, like even the Yeah for sure, this repeats delivers
that rock'n'roll, albeit with horns.
Scott rhythms are available whenappropriate or nostalgically

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justified. That's fair.
Yeah, no. It's not Scott, but it gets it
when it needs it, yeah. Just enough to check it off the
list and maybe not play. I love.
That. I had a great time playing those
shows this past winter. Thank you SO.
Much Northwest. I had a blast.
I'm looking forward to doing it again if possible.

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Actually, I'm drinking out of myI did this on purpose because
I'm corny. I'm drinking out of my dork.
Safe, fair with toasters. And this repeats pint glass.
Yeah, man. So what?
What else? Anything else been going on?
You are any new stuff coming? Are we going to record any any
jams? We should.
He did. I feel like.
I feel like he doesn't need you.I feel like.
Brian, he does definitely doesn't need me.
He did it without me before. He can do without me again.

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I'm forcing myself. What's what was the term, Don?
It's not bullying, it's. It's not bullying, it's
aggressive persuasion. I'm aggressively persuading him
to let me play bass on his whatever upcoming music he has.
Yeah. Well, I need him for a
companionship. You do.
Or oh, OK. That's bass bassness as well.
And yeah, I don't know, we got abit of a Milo goes to college

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situation, I guess at the brightpage of 41 because I'm trying to
finish my bachelor's. But Oh yeah, there's plenty of
songs, Rod, if we you get aroundto it in the next six months to
a year. Well, you know, stay in school.
School is more important, you know.
Yeah, stuff seems to stay. In school, Rod, can you can you
put in the the more you know like that.

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After after you tell. After you tell Brian to stay in
school. Yeah, that'd be great.
You know, stay in school. So I had I had something else I
wanted to bring up to you, Brian, just because the timing
of it was funny. I was at a show this week here
in Richmond and one of the opening bands is a band called

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Pat and the Pissers, who are from Indianapolis, are just this
like really energetic, fun kind of punk, but rock'n'roll and
their really good life. And I was talking to him as one
does, because it was a small show and I'm like, I'm a I'm a
Hoosier. And through talking they I found
out that their new album was recorded by Bill Stack.
What? Yeah, listeners won't know what

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that means, but I don't even know how to explain.
Just somebody who played in bands around us.
We went to high school with and was in bands when we were in
bands. But just a funny guy.
Just really funny guy. He's record, He has a, he has a
studio in his house and stuff Now apparently he's like, like,
known for making good music. So Bill Stack if you're
listening, which you're not, but.

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And you're in a band with him aswell.
I was and yeah, I was. I was in.
Yeah, I was. I forgot about that.
It was like he forgets. Yeah, yeah.
Pat Pat and the pissers on Spotify.
New album. Yeah, it sounds good.

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Yeah, that's the that's the album Bill Stacker quit.
We had a secret song on the album that we put out.
One of the albums we put out in high school.
We had a secret song that was just our was it you or our
singer or Patrick making a parrot sound and then saying
Bill Stack and it just was looped for like 6 minutes over
and over. That's the kind of humor that we
had back in the day, Don so. Do you know what Pat and the

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Pisser's profile says on Spotify?
No, but I want to. Indianapolis Rock Band.
That's it. Chills.
That's. Catchy and like an emoji with
two eyes and a smile. Cute, cute.
A bunch of cute guys. All right, Brian, what's the
theme of the mix tape today? So the theme is that horns can

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make almost anything better. That's why there's so many.
Should this be? Brief.
Let's break it. Should this be brief, you can
make it. As much as you want talk for the
last 10 minutes, who gives a shit?
Horns are for everyone and this mix tape is for everyone.
Except there we go. Except Scott.
So. Yeah.

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Yeah, claim horns back from Scott.
Not that most people thought they had possession, but.
I think that you just drop 2 potential titles there.
Horns are for everyone. Or taking horns back from Scott.
Yeah. And if that's not the album, Sky
Band name, album name, taking horns back from Scott, then I
don't know what it is that's really good.

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Maybe a different 1 won't. Yeah.
A nice title. So I'm curious where how you
guys went with this? But yeah, so we're we're doing
songs with horns because horns do make everything better, but
no sky. But not.
Scots off No Scots off Plymouths.
It does make Scots valuable, actually, but yeah.
Yeah, it makes Scott you, you hit you knock on ska so much.
But we still, we listen to so much ska in our Oh yeah, I loved

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it. We your band Brian is driving
passenger seat in the car with ska as the driver.
Oh yeah, no, we've done basically, yeah.
I'm not shitting on Scott. I'm just it hadn't developed too
much over the years. And then it's not, it's not a
joke to everybody, but it's, it needs some freshness to it and,

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and just a jerk, I guess. We have we essentially just have
been edging our listeners who will like Scott because we tease
doing a Scott episode for. Perverse.
Why can I not say that I'm? Just turning into a dirty bird
here. Good for you.
I mean, we've talked about Scottso many times on this podcast
and it will not you. Explain to Aunt Tammy what
edging. Explain to Aunt Tammy what
edging means. I'm just going to say it's

(26:50):
teething. OK.
Giving our audience. Sounds good, Aunt Tammy.
Don't Google edging. Aunt Tammy's smart.
All right, I'm going to read this.
This episode is off to a weird start.
Yeah, it sure is good. Read the fucking rules.
Yeah, I'm going to read the rules here.
So you got to have a killer opening track.
Each song should flow smoothly into the next.

(27:12):
The mixtape should have a good balance of genres, tempos and
moods. Mixtape should tell a story or
convey an emotion. Can't be too obvious, but can't
be too obscure either. Can't double up on songs by the
same artist. And the closing track should
leave a lasting impression. Bing, you want to go first,
second or third, Brian? I would like to go third third.
Dang, the thing about such a loose premise for a mixtape is

(27:36):
that there's endless choices. So I don't have.
I think there's. Limited risk of steal.
Yeah, I mean, I hope you guys steal some of mine so I have
more, you know? Yeah.
Hey, that's that's actually a good philosophy.
I have that too sometimes. Like sometimes I don't mind a
steal because it just means thatsong got I wanted was talked
about anyway and then I get to pick another one.

(27:57):
Yeah, but if only if I've only got 6 then I'm starting to get
nervous. But.
All right, well. That's on me.
All right, so I'm kicking it offthen on this episode.
All right, cool. Well, I don't really have a
purpose for the order I'm going to pick these in, but I will say
that kind of the direction I found myself going in was,
although as Brian said, horns make everything better.

(28:18):
I kind of was, I know we're no ska, but I kind of started like
veering away from other genres that typically have horns too.
Not that there's anything wrong with picking those too, but
like, you know, I didn't really pick like a soul song because of
so many soul bands had horn sections.
So that's. What I'm thinking too.
I love that. OK, I went with more like
unexpected horns, right? This first one's a little weird

(28:41):
because the band, I'm going to say, has horns in every song,
but they're unexpected for a different reason because this
band is a alter ego of another band.
So I'm going, I'm going with Mariachi L Bronx 48 Roses.
So please save. Some forgiveness for me.

(29:17):
Do you guys know about Mariachi L Bronx?
No. Nope.
Oh yes I do. Yes, I do.
Do you know that the band The Bronx?
Yes, punky rock band.

(29:38):
So they have an alter ego calledMariachi L Bronx, which is just
them doing Mariachi original songs but in mariachi style.
And they have like 5 albums of it now.
And they will literally sometimes they'll play shows
together, They'll play, they'll do a show where the Bronx plays
and Mariachi L Bronx plays. Sometimes they'll just go on
tour just as Mariachi L Bronx. It's wild because on Spotify and

(30:01):
the streaming services they're listed as two separate bands.
But like on Wikipedia, it's all just the Bronx and Mariachi L
Bronx is considered like a alterego of the Bronx.
And the song is, well, the not just this song, the entire band.
I'm picking 48 roses. Not just because it's their
biggest song, actually, you knowme, Don, like you and I both
kind of like to avoid that sometimes.

(30:21):
It's just my favorite of theirs.It's a jam, but they are
straight up a mariachi band. Like they are just.
So. Cool.
Straight up Mariachi. And I don't know that we've had
Mariachi on the podcast before, so.
No, but it's really good. Stoked to bring in a new one,
but I I like the Bronx a lot. Like I really liked what was it,
American? I forget the names of their

(30:44):
albums now. Oh, it was just Bronx one, I
think. I think it was like Bronx 1-2
and three. Incredibly recognizable album
cover. Yeah, the one with the the
blood, the vampire. And yeah, yeah, sure.
Bronx One and Bronx two I rode hard for for a long time and
they're still great records. I just don't haven't listened to
this band in a while. But yeah, it's like aggressive
rock'n'roll. I guess it's punk rock, but it

(31:05):
feels more just like rock'n'roll.
No, I think aggressive rock'n'roll is great.
Yeah. Really good, so great call.
Yeah, a little mariachi music toget things going here.
So I don't know. That, that is good.
That is good. Unexpected horns.
It's like it's not unexpected from a mariachi band.
It's unexpected for a rock'n'roll band to put out
mariachi records, right? So.

(31:27):
I recently I recently saw a Blink 182 cover band called
Blink 182 Juan and they do like traditional Mexican style covers
of blink 182 songs and they sound so fucking cool with like
the accordion and like you know,mariachi style.
They're fantastic. I think they're on Spotify,

(31:49):
worth checking out. Yeah, they, the Bronx guys
basically like when they've beenasked about it, they're like, we
grew up in LA and like this stuff is everywhere and we grew
up in this kind of culture and we've always liked that music.
And why can you only, why do youonly have to do one kind of
music, basically? And so they're like, we felt
like doing mariachi music. I also think it looks like the

(32:10):
Bronx put out an album called 2 albums called Dead Tracks that I
think is a covers album, 2 covers albums.
And then Mariachi L Bronx put out two albums called Musica
Muerta, which I also believe means Dead Music that are also
Mariachi's covers. So like they're just, I don't
know, they're doing the thing. They're doing the thing.

(32:34):
So I also recommend, I don't know, I haven't seen them.
I've never seen Mariachi. I've never seen either of these
bands live. I do know that they tour under
both these bands. In fact, I think for a while
they were only touring as Mariachi L Bronx for some
reason. And it looks like it doesn't
look like they're on tour now, but like they've got an upcoming
show in Long Beach as Mariachi LBronx.

(32:55):
So. OK, so hold on real quick.
So dead tracks volume to it shows that the Bronx is
obviously the first artist, but then it it shows like the
featuring artist, but I don't know if they've taken the
featuring artists and that's they just put the other person's
name in the title because they're doing it.
Or if they actually did collaborations with all these
artists. Because if they did and then
they did a collaboration with Neil Young, Charles Manson,

(33:18):
Warren Zevon, the Descendants, but I don't know if they're just
covering their tracks. This is worth digging into.
This is going to take some time,but I'm excited to go on this
adventure. It sounds like they're just
covers and they just credited the original artist in the song
or the artists, but I'm not sure.
Yeah, they do. They do.
They do. Like, yeah, they do a Neil Young

(33:38):
song on this. They do a Descendant song, They
do AX song. Looks like they do a Black Flag
song. So yeah.
Oh yeah, yeah. I hope people go listen to the
Bronx too, but it's no horns in the Bronx.
Yeah, my turn. Yeah.
Yeah, it's Brian. Chose third.
Bold move, Brian. This is the song from every
great 80s movie sequel. And I also had a hard time with

(33:59):
like, does the song have to feature horns?
Or what if there's just a bitching saxophone solo?
Does that qualify? Yeah.
I think it's loose. The horn.
Keep the loose. All right then, boy meets girl
waiting for a start of fall. Featured predominantly in the

(34:42):
sequel to Look Who's Talking, Look Who's Talking 2 TOO.
Also featured predominantly in Three Men and a Little Lady, Not
Three Men and a Baby. Also, this is the song I was
talking about, Rod, where I was like, let's do some research on
this one and find out why this song is so good.
And all I found on YouTube was like the best 80s nineties movie
moments with just this song playing the whole way through.

(35:06):
And it makes sense in every single one of them.
So they this song was just playing in the background of a
montage of great 90s movies, movie modes.
Yeah. Totally, and it makes sense.
In every single one instantly puts me in my like the backseat
of my mom's car when I was like 6 years old like.
It's fucking awesome. What's the artist's name?

(35:27):
Boy meets girl. So yeah, so this actually, it's
funny, I thought of this song, the last podcast I said listen
to of you guys was the, you know, my dad's car, right?
OK. Yeah, yeah.
Which by the way, struck off a Chicago track.
We're not going to talk about about that, but my dad fucking
loved this song. Like he would like one day.
I remember he was started cleaning like a Saturday morning

(35:49):
and this song was on repeat and he was singing it, which I've
never he does. My dad like doesn't sing so he
was just in a freaking mood listening to this song on
repeat, cleaning the house and woke my sisters up on a Saturday
morning and I was like what in the world is this song on repeat
Sir? Wow.
Great song. Knowing your dad, I now I now

(36:10):
get to actually picture him singing this song, cleaning the
house and it makes me really happy.
It is a great fucking song. It's a great song.

(36:32):
I'm trying to get to the to the saxophone solo in it.
It rips so hard. In my arms, baby.
Yeah, it's a great It is one of the most 90s adult contemporary
songs you could possibly have. And of course it has a bitch and
saxophone solo in it. I'd have to.
It has to. Oh my God, I love it.

(36:54):
It's fantastic. What a cover.
What an album cover too. I know they they they have
encapsulated everything into onesong and one album cover.
You get like This is a perfect example of 1993.
Yeah, so how come they have another?
They have Waiting for a Start toFall and then there's another
song. Their number two song is just
called for a start to fall without the waiting in front of

(37:15):
it. Well, you know, sometimes,
sometimes the. Wait.
Somewhere. The wait's over.
Sometimes it's not expected all.Right.
Cool. Yeah, that was my big thing was
like, is it qualifying if it's just a bad ass saxophone solo?
And here's another fantastic boymeets girl statistic.

(37:39):
Is that waiting for a solid to fall. 111 million streams.
Nothing else even breaks 500,000.
The next closest is 340,000. So we're several million off
from this one song that they've gotten.
This is the only one. That's why my dad only played
that one. 1988 is the song. That's why.

(38:00):
That's why. That's why he he knew better.
All right, over to Brian. First pick.
All right already. OK, so it's too soon to be like
keeping score of genre tallies, but yeah, we haven't had
anything hip hop or rap adjacent.
OK, so let's get one of those onthe board.
What's this one like you? Using the term on the board for
this. Put it on the board.

(38:22):
I'm a fan. I'm a fan of that.
I mean, this one has well, there's nary nary our rapping to
be found, but. OK.
So my first choice does involve a fucking catchy ass horn line
that serves as the hook throughout this entire song, as
well as some lovely spoken word tidbits from the great classic
20th century philosopher Andre Benjamin.

(38:44):
Motherfucker. Andre Benjamin, the 3000.
It's a goddamn direct steal. Yeah, keep going, because it's a
direct fucking steal. And let me can I?
And it's OK if I quote him. Yeah, Stokes saith the 3000.
As the plot thickens, it gives me the Dickens reminiscent of
Charles. Well said.
Beautiful, Yeah. Chef's kiss.
So yeah, it's outcast. Spotty Adi Dopelicious, but in

(39:07):
actuality it's only about 3:00 AM and 3:00. *** just then got
hauled off an ambulance. 2 *** on Starbucks.
One *** don't take his shirt offTom Bop.
Now who else want to fuck with Hollywood Co?
It's just my interpretation of the situation.

(39:42):
It's a direct deal. It's a direct steal.
I love. Yeah, it is.
Is it really? It was.
At the top, Yeah. Is it the top of my life?
I should have saved it last so Icould have a bonus.
Now. I would have given it.
I would have gotten it next and you might have missed.
It it's a. It's a.
And what sucks is that I also have to write Spode Dopalicious
again now because I wrote it on my list and now I have to write

(40:02):
it on the list that I read at the end and I can't copy and
paste. So let me try and spell this out
all again. So many.
Phonetically, that's what I did.I wrote it per the spelling on
Spotify. I should have known better
because I just wrote it before Ilooked it up and I wrote it with
YS instead of IES, and I've listened to this stuff that I
should have known better, but it's a nerd.
Brian, did you do any research on this song?

(40:23):
Like I'm was that an original horn line or is that sampled
from something? Do you know?
Oh, I meant to, but I forgot. That's OK, because I don't know
either. It sounds like reeled horns, but
doesn't mean that they, yeah, were recorded specifically for
that project. It's not a sample this all it's
looks like it's original. Yeah, I do.
When I first looked it up, I sawpeople credited for horns, but I
didn't. It wasn't like.

(40:44):
And that is? The.
Catchiest fucking horn line and that is stuck in your head the
whole day. It's the hook.
It's already it's. It's there.
Yep, Yep, it's. Which is so cool.
Fucking good. Yeah, Oh.
God that song is so good. Roderick, do you remember
driving around blast an outcast on those pop punk tours back in
the day? Oh yeah, Hell yeah.

(41:06):
We had decent music tastes and like the last thing you wanted
to listen to when you were touring in a punk band was punk
music. Yeah, yeah.
Got tired of that little Queminifast.
Got a little Quemini on the radio.
Absolutely. Yeah, this.
Episode of 60 Songs was was it Miss Jackson?
Yeah. Miss Jackson.
It was a really fun lesson of Outcast and hearing him talk

(41:28):
about all the hilarity of Andre 3000's flute album.
Flute qualifiers. A horn.
Wood was I figured that would come up, but I was not wood.
No, it's a woodwind. What would that doesn't a
saxophone to woodwind and that that's a horn.
Yeah, but the but they put saxophones in horn sections of
bands. Yeah, not not like school band,
but like. Like if it doesn't feel horny,

(41:49):
it's just not. I think that's the.
Yeah, flute doesn't feel horny, Yeah.
I'm fucking, I'm asking the fucking ChatGPT is a flute Is a
flute a horn? The.
Flute is not horn dude. Well then, why is this saxophone
a horn? Because we're saying it is.
I don't know. Because it feels like a horn,
Because it's brass, Because it'smade of brass.
Does that does that count? I guess so was the fucking.

(42:10):
Flute says this says why some have noted similarities to a
specific Jamaican skull song. The trumpet melody itself was
not sampled. There you go, the original,
original, original horn line. Is a saxophone horn?
Yes. In everyday speech, a saxophone
is often called a horn, but technically it's not a brass
instrument or a true horn. Well.

(42:31):
It's not a brass, but it's called a horn.
I'm I'm picking exclusively flute songs for the rest of the
fucking exclusively flutes. Go for it.
Just some Jethro Tull and that'sall I got and the new Andre.
Yeah, perfect. You know what?
This was a complete blind. I don't know why, but I like
actually, that's not true. I might bring some up later, but

(42:53):
I I wasn't thinking about hip hop much for this and I should
have because that's that's hornsand hip hop.
Definitely a bit unexpected. And this is so good.
This makes me happy. What should I do next?
All right, I'm going to go one of Don's least favorite bands.
I'd love to do that to him. Very unexpected horns in the
song. It's got just this really dope

(43:14):
groove of a bass line that just runs through the whole song, but
then then just has this weird free, free form jazz horn stuff
that comes in in the back half of the song.
And I'm going national anthem byRadiohead.

(43:56):
And I live this fantastic song. I mean Kid A was such a great
album and revolutionary and likethis doesn't surprise me for
them to bust out some like weirdfree form jazz horns on a song
like this. But you also don't expect it
because it's like halfway through the song before the
horns even kick in. But it's got that really fucking
cool. Radiohead just has great bass

(44:17):
lines. Did I pick Radiohead as a bass
line on the bass episode? Because.
I did. That would have been a good
pick. Brian, do you like Radiohead?
I am not a huge fan, but that was on my list of like, I mean,
not in like contention in my list of like 60 songs.
And you're like, OK, I think we we got enough to choose from
here, but I thought you might choose that.
Your long list. I actually thought you might

(44:38):
choose, you know, I can say it, you're you can pick whatever you
want, but you did beck sex laws for I realized for a previous
episode and I was like, I bet that's coming.
I bet it'll be Radiohead, Beck, whatever else.
You know, back on my list today and to defend myself, that is
the one Beck song that's been onthe podcast that I did not pick.
Our guest picked sex Laws. Oh, I didn't Kevin.

(44:58):
Yeah, Kevin picked sex Laws. That's a good Rodrick has put
Radiohead on one other mixtape. It was the family affair and it
was Jigsaw falling into. Place.
Great fucking song, great bass line.
God, such such a good bass part.But the horns on this song, it
starts with it at first if I'm I'm not listening to it in my
ears right now, but it's like a baritone saxophone at 1st.
And I think the first sections with horns is just the sax.

(45:21):
But then other stuff comes in later and I can't tell exactly
what it is, but it sounds like it's a full horn section.
Like, I hear some trombones and I hear some trumpets.
I think you know, who knows? It's really cool that they love
that song. I there could be.
I don't think there are, though.I have it pulled up.
I have the Wikipedia pulled up right here.
Let's see. Free gin, blah blah.
I don't think so. Sorry.

(45:43):
Additional musicians. We've got trumpet, tenor sax,
Alto sax, baritone sax, Alto sax, trombone.
No flute. I'm sorry.
I'm so sorry, no flutes. It's disappointing, I.
Don't know why you hate Radiohead so much.
I mean, I do kind of. I do not hate Radiohead.
I just missed it. Just never.
It never landed it. It never came across my desk.
Like, they're just one of those bands that everybody listened

(46:05):
to, I just never listened to. And it was just like, all right,
well, they're a thing. They've got that one weird
cartoon video that I've seen toomany times, but yeah, that was
it. Yeah, I mean, like, I, I didn't
get into them into them until I got a little older, like, 'cause
you know, like Kid A came out in2000, so I was either a
sophomore or junior in high school.
So I wasn't like, understanding what this record was and I

(46:28):
definitely wasn't listening to this album.
But like, they're, you know, they're singles to be on MTV and
stuff. So I knew of them and I like
some of their songs. Like, I always liked Karma
Police. That video was really cool, you
know, some stuff like that. So is Karma.
Please. The cartoon, is that the one
that being chased by the car? Yeah.
The running guy. Yeah.
Yeah. You know, they were they were

(46:48):
round, but like it. It wasn't until later when my, I
guess, tastes matured a bit thatI got into them.
You'll you'll get there someday.Don your your tastes will mature
enough to appreciate Radiohead. Good one, good one.
I had to, but yeah. Anyway, I figured you wouldn't
want to talk about Radiohead toolong and this.
There's not much to talk about in the song, it's just them
being weird, you know, probably for weirdness sake, but it just

(47:10):
works. They do that shit really well.
Shoving some free form jazz stuff in the middle of a song
for sure. Radiohead.
All right, Don, what you got? OK, I'm going to do Aqua Lung by
Jethro Tull. No, just kidding, motherfucker,
just kidding. It's just flute This is going to
fill in for my spodioli. Double is just getting stolen

(47:31):
and it's a bummer. Do you guys listen to T Rex at
all? T Rex.
I think T Rex would have been asbig as Bowie.
I think Mark Bolin had. Or like they were.
I know they were really good buds and like Bowie was kind of
mentoring Mark Bolin but he diedin the car accident when he was
29 years old. But T Rex was so fucking good.

(47:55):
The song is bang a gong. Parentheses get it on.

(48:20):
Classic. For sure, great horn line, great
fucking song and I just would have loved to have heard heard
so much more music from T Rex. Yeah, he he had hit it all going
on, man. Good looking dude, cool style.
Great. Song cool style, like my time
with Bowie. Yeah, mixing glam rock with like
with that, with it was like it was glam, but it wasn't cheesy

(48:41):
glam rock. It was like, just awesome.
It wasn't too glammy. Right.
Yeah, dude. Gospel, disco, R&B, or like some
of like the genres he falls under, glam rock, psychedelic,
folk, and then soul, gospel and disco, he kind of falls under
everything. But like they're fucking awesome
all the time. T Rex is really good all of the

(49:01):
time. Yeah, I love those are smart.
I love these classic rock songs that have like, especially when
they have like a baritone sax inthere, like doing like a bass
part, which is very old school rock'n'roll sounding.
But like classic, wrong classic wrongs.
Classic rock songs that have that they just hit.
I forgot I forgot there was a horn in this song honestly until

(49:22):
you just said that like it says.There's a there's a ton of horns
in T Rex. A ton and a lot of T Rex.
I mean it makes I guess it. Makes sense to know something a
gong I was going to do 20th century boy.
But good one is. A little bit more mix tape able.
Yeah, I could see that. My.
They're both great I. I'll like T Rex was on the Scott

(49:44):
Pilgrim versus the World soundtrack.
The song is Teenage Dream. It's fucking such an incredible
but every every T Rex song is good.
They might be the artist that didn't make any bad songs.
Maybe. It's an that's an incredible
soundtrack. Dude, yeah, I'm bummed Mark
Poland died and we didn't get more T Rex.
He might be the only person thatare you.
Fucking listening around or you just balls deep in the song.

(50:04):
Huh. No slash can.
Talking right now. Slash can wear a top.
Hat slash can wear a top hat. Yeah, I guess slash can also.
I don't really care. Slash can wear a top hat.
Name someone cooler in a top hatand don't say Abraham Lincoln
somebody cooler than Slash in a top hat.
Mark Bolin in the top hat. Maybe it's like a Mad Hatter
style top hat that he's got on. Yeah, fucking name.

(50:26):
But yeah, T Rex is awesome. Mark Bolin is awesome.
Brian, I don't remember, Are youa classic rock guy like I know
some? I am, well I'm a late bloomer to
to everything because I was sheltered as a young kid and
then punk rock sheltered me fromlearning about the other genres
until I'd fully gotten tired of punk route.

(50:47):
Maybe I'm in classic rock phase right now and I'm turning on to
some new very old shit. Yeah, T Rex.
This coming from the guy who's first pick was Spodio D Double
Licious by Outkast. The coolest fucking song tells
us how sheltered he was. I don't buy it for a second.
Well. Well, well, well, Outkast.
Outkast hits everybody. They did actually no, and it was

(51:07):
the edited version too. I think I had the.
Oh hell yeah. Before I had a crimini, I had
Andre and Big Boy present. Whatever.
It's like they're like a compilation of their old.
Speaker box in the love below. Well, it's no, it's before
Stanconia. They kind of did like a recap of
their old stuff because they're,you know, even more mainstream
at that point. And they had all these bangers

(51:27):
that the kids didn't know at thetime.
And I had probably bought that at Meyer or Target or something
and it came pre edited so. You for sure bought that at
Meyer because Meyer sold all theclean shit.
And I've told the story in the pod before, but we used to do a
Christmas present CD exchange inhigh school and I got Brian
Chronic 2. What was it, Chronic 2000?

(51:48):
But I got I got him the clean version from Meijer and he's
never let me live that down to this day.
Like why would you give me the clean version?
He got more planes that way, I'll tell you that.
In the Meredith household, that was more approachable to blast
that I. I just have this memory and it
could be one I've made-up in my mind, but I have this memory of
exchanging our CDs in school andhe opens it and his first

(52:08):
response was, you fucking got methe clean version.
Like I felt so bad. Perfect.
I didn't even know. I didn't even think to look.
I just grabbed it at my totally would have been a Meyer because
that's where we were buying CDs.I guess it could have been Best
Buy, but. Do you remember?
What you got me and. Your little black backpack and
you went on the little black, doyou?
Remember what you got me that year?

(52:30):
Yeah, I remember. OK, go.
Ahead, I still listen to this album.
Freestylers. Remember that band?
Yeah. You know why?

(52:56):
Don't. Don't pretend you're sheltered,
man. That was like some.
Didn't they just make a podcast?No, I've never put them on
podcast, have I? No way.
Yes, you just put them on. No way.
No way. How you gonna put they're like
and not remember if that's true?They're like, I mean, what, what

(53:16):
genre even is freestylers? Like they're kind of our dubstep
now, but like back then they weren't, they were like.
Wipeout DJs. Club like sure, they're
definitely DJs that's like the. Band The band that plays on
Wipeout when you're driving yourlittle space planes around.
They weren't quite so techno as that, but I mean the similar.
Like from here sonically with like crystal method and meat

(53:39):
bait manifesto and chemical brothers prodigy.
Was that what? Yeah, it's like big beat stuff,
but it was more hip hop influence.
That's what it was. That album that you gave me is
like hip hop break beats, but like kind of played a little.
Like it was a great fucking album.
But there's no way I picked themon the pod.
I mean, I would totally pick them for a pod, but I would
remember if I had. OK.
I believe he's Don. Going to research it or no?

(54:00):
No, I just looked it up. There's they're not, Brian.
All right, my turn. Turn again.
Yeah, over to you. OK, I'll go with an instant
instance of less overtly horny or horn driven vibe.
But the horns in this indie classic, I guess that's the I
don't. I fall in the trap of like it's
either pop or indie and I just decide which one it is and

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doesn't make any sense. I don't know what genres are,
but this gentleman I had the pleasure of seeing live and last
week, last year or maybe this year, I'm a big fan of him.
And I took my daughter to see Kacey Musgraves here in Seattle.
And this dude, I was lucky enough that he was the opening
act. It's the fantastic Father John
Misty. And this is Chateau lobby #4 in

(54:45):
parentheses, the key of C for two virgins.
Stay as long. As.
You want. I love me some Father John

(55:12):
Misty. It just feels so warm, doesn't
he? Doesn't he just feel so warm?
Mr. Misty. It's not Mr. Misty.
It's actually ironic because that's a frozen beverage from DQ
so. Did you know where you acted?
You acted like you were surprised he was open.
You knew he was opening before you went to the show and or you

(55:33):
do not know. I think I no, I did, but like I
so The thing is I my sisters hadgifted that as a present Kacey
Musgraves tickets and then my wife could not go to the show.
I which I like Kacey Musgraves, I would have gone, but I was
going to allow my lovely wife towitness that show.
But so I got the chance to kind of late in the game to go.

(55:55):
And I don't think I knew initially that he was that he
was the opener maybe until like maybe a month or so beforehand.
So I was pretty stoked on that kind of a short set, but it was
awesome. I'd never seen him.
Loved it. Great show.
Even Kacey Musgraves did a greatyeah, see the Pink Pony Club
cover. Casey not Oh nice optimisty.
Not Father John Misty. Yeah.
Yeah, I would love to see you. First off, that's a great show.

(56:17):
Those two together would be an incredible show, but I feel like
I would. This is I don't know why this is
reminding me of it, but recentlyDon, we talked on that episode
about like, if Bon Aver translates well live.
I feel like Father John Misty would translate really well
live. It might even be better life.
You know what I mean? Like this kind of this kind of

(56:39):
indie rock feels like it would feel even better watching it
being performed live. Brian, you've seen him.
You can tell us, I guess. Have you ever seen like live
clips? Like he's got like like a a
shtick. Like he's kind of, it's a whole
thing. Like though he's he's talking
very slowly and softly in between songs and like he's
he's, he's the opener. He doesn't have that meant that
much time, but he's going at hisown pace and he's like, he's

(57:02):
basically a character And I I'm more about the music, but I know
he's got a whole a whole shtick behind the scenes going on like
a storyline in a way or. No, I didn't know that.
I have not seen videos, songs inlife.
Yeah. Sounds awesome.
So is Father John Misty like an like a character that he does
then? I think so, yeah.
OK. Is it?
Wow. Is there really, I believe Josh,

(57:24):
no. And he has song Oh God, what's
his? What's his name?
He has several songs titled withhis actual name.
Which is what I'm trying to lookit up.
Quality you get, you get. People trying to look up what
his real name is and I don't seeit on here.
I'm sure it's in. His name isn't John Misty.
And he's I had. No idea.
Not even a father, probably. No shit.
Is he a priest? Josh.

(57:44):
Till Michael Tillman. Yeah.
So he's got, yeah, multiple songs, Jay Tillman and speaking,
speaking up himself as a character, he's.
From Rockville, MD, that's right, Right by where we just
were. You went through.
You went through there to come to go to the Murder by Death
show, Don. So is OER.
But great song and I I think of like right before I like maybe

(58:05):
not early dating my current wife, but my only wife.
I think, oh, I think we played this in my wedding.
I think he was on my I don't know if the DJ played it.
We had a terrible DJ that like Igave him like a list of songs.
Yeah, this is a fun. Like my wife had a friend who's
at work whose husband was a DJ. So we got a good deal.

(58:25):
On a DJ, sometimes you get a good deal and it's too good to
be true. So I'd being a music lover, I'd
planned out before. I was like, you can do what you
want after the 1st 15 songs. How about that?
He gave me two songs and then he's like, I don't know, I'm
losing the crowd. I got to play some stupid, I
don't know, club songs. Yeah.
So he took the reins, and anyways.

(58:46):
He's got to play. Yeah, by Usher.
Yeah, like something like that, honestly.
Yeah, I did not know that FatherJoshua Tillman, who is Father
John Misty, I did not know he was in Fleet Foxes and that
makes perfect sense to me. Oh no.
Shit, but I did not know that. That's cool.
I'll. Be damned, was Ian masters of
folk too. He was asking questions rather
than. Google, it doesn't say that.

(59:07):
On his Wikipedia, the only otherband listed is like AII got rid
of it, but it wasn't that. I'll be damned.
All right, Well, brother John Missy, who?
Second time he's been on the podor first time I think.
He's the first timer. That's the first timer.
OK, cool. I didn't know if Real Love had
been on before, 'cause that's a jam and I could see that of been
having been on like the Love episode.
Maybe it's an honorable mention.Great call.

(59:29):
All right, all. Right.
Which one? Do I want to go with next?
I'm going to go with the replacements.
Can't hardly wait. So again.

(01:00:00):
The 80s power pop replacements are great.
Not expecting a horn to come outwhen you're when you're hearing
the song for the first time and then boom, horns.
I don't know if you guys are Replacements fans, but I got
into them way late in life. Like after after like the one
millionth person told me that I should listen to the
Replacements because they were so influential and all these
other bands I listened to I finally, you know, did.

(01:00:22):
And now I do absolutely love theReplacements.
And yeah, I don't know, man. Like it just I don't know what
the story behind their being horns in the song, but it feels
like a song that doesn't need horns but the horns make it
better if that makes sense. Like Brian said earlier, like
horns make everything better. It's like this song would have
been probably a hit without it, but the trumpet line just

(01:00:43):
elevates it like. Yeah, waiting for a start of
Fall. Would not have been hit without
that saxophone solo, that's for sure.
That's what I'm saying like. Brian's dad wouldn't have been
singing that song if it wasn't for that saxophone solo.
I hope your, I hope your dad wasplaying the air saxophone while
he was cleaning too, when the saxophone party came on.
Or singing the saxophone solo. You know what I mean?

(01:01:05):
Like I hope that was happening. If he didn't restart the song
before it got there because he was just that that insistent on
getting different chorus after chorus after chorus.
Yeah. Do you guys know this song?
Like, off the top of your heads?You do OK, Brian doesn't.
I mean, 'cause this is one of their bigger ones, like maybe
their biggest, like it's not their most play, but I think you

(01:01:25):
could argue it might be their biggest song.
And yeah, it's, I don't know, it's a jam.
It is what the movie Can't Hardly Wait was named after.
Was this was named after the song?
Yep. Confirmed that the song plays
during the credits. So.
But yeah, me and Paul Westerbergare bringing in this dope
trumpet. I don't know what else to say.
I'm actually not very educated on the replacements so maybe

(01:01:47):
they weren't the best pick for me.
Like I think Shane talked about him.
Was it Shane or was it Ron that picked him?
Was it Shane, wasn't it, that picked the replacements on an
old episode? If it's pretentious, it was
probably Shane. Like it was.
No, it was Ron Best of 87. So same album that this song is
on. He picked Alex Chilton, which is
a good song too, but they're both off of Pleased to Meet You,

(01:02:07):
which is a great record. Again, I Ron probably knew way
more about The Replacements thanI did than I do.
I just know Paul Westerberg obviously, like super producer
and super songwriter after the Replacements.
I know their Replacements were like crazy influential and never
actually got that big. I think this is probably their
biggest album though. This this came out in 87 and

(01:02:29):
maybe Let It Be is is big too. But yeah, I mean, I don't know
you. Know their biggest city?
Let me guess, Chicago. Chicago.
Well, that makes sense. They're from Minneapolis, aren't
they? So the that's close enough to
Chicago and Chicago, as we've established on this pod,
Chicago's just a fucking music town, man.
Yeah. It really is.
You guys listen to a lot of music, so.

(01:02:49):
Yep, crushed it. What you got done?
I recently like probably summer had been looking for like a lot
of good background music. Like what's this shit that you
just throw on like evening time,cooking dinner and Show and
knife crushes. If you guys don't listen to Show
and Knife, are you familiar? OK, next time you're just like
milling about the house, throw on Show and Knife.

(01:03:11):
They're phenomenal. I've also started to dip my toe
into the Coasters radio, which is all like really good.
So my song is Down in Mexico by the Coasters.

(01:03:39):
Killer horns through the entire song and if you just throw on
the Coasters radio it'll play everything good and it's
perfect. Summertime.
Throw the windows open the house, do your chores, cook
dinner, hang out, and chill. The Coasters fucking crush.
Plus one of the coolest movie scenes of all time and Death

(01:04:00):
Proof when the girl is dancing to the Coasters for Kurt Russell
crushes. The Coasters are fucking rad.
It's such a good genre music. The radio channel on Spotify's
Fantastic IS. It like duopy stuff.
Is that a place Pretty. Duopy, Yeah.
Yeah, 'cause this song's not necessarily duopy, but they're,
they're a duop band, right? Is that how you categorize them?

(01:04:20):
Yeah. Yeah, it's fair.
Yeah. I mean, this song itself is just
so good. The.
Song is great. I mean, we've talked about
Yakety Yak before on the back. Totally.
The second time the movie Andrescome up on this podcast.
I actually had a conversation last night at that.
I sent you a video from that. I was at our Mike.

(01:04:41):
Previous guest of the pod was DJING last night doing like a
country DJ set and he played Amyby Pure Prairie League.
So I had to send you a video of it done.
But I was having a conversation with some people there about
Andre last night. I don't know why that movie
keeps coming up so much in my life and I haven't actually
watched it in decades, so I should.
Probably do that. Chill with you, Andre.
I know it's too much. You're not wrong, it's too much.
It's been several episodes. Wait, did Andre come up recently

(01:05:04):
again? Because it was a good chunk of
Noah. Andre, do you want to start
talking about match sponsors again?
We should probably bring mattress sponsors back, yeah.
We can bring Buckethead back, but there's.
So many animals playing sports movies, just they're they're in
some different ones. Yeah, I'll send you a list as
hard as Andre's air bud is whatever.

(01:05:24):
Off top of your head, Brian, give me, give me.
Besides air Bud, what are we talking here?
Well, I mean air Bud 7th inning fetch.
Obviously air bud will pop. The fact that you had that on
deck is Robert. You know, you know, big and
hairy, the greatest, if not the greatest animal playing sport
movie. It is a Sasquatch who plays

(01:05:44):
middle school basketball. He's pretty good, too.
You're going to see this kid play do.
People not know he's a Sasquatch.
Oh, they know, but there's no rule this.
Have you not seen these? Do you know who has the looks
done? Unfortunately, is it you missed
all of. Them fill me in.
Every single premise for these movies is, I'm sorry, you know,

(01:06:07):
as concerned parents at the school, whatever.
There's no rule that says Blank can't play Blank.
We looked it up. That is the premise.
There's no rule. No rule that says basketball
can't play middle school basketball.
What is the movie? Well, Big and Harry so and it
was on Showtime, so those two things don't.
I feel like you need to be careful with what you're.
Googling. Be careful, you do need to be.

(01:06:29):
Careful. And Tammy, be careful with what
you're Googling. Yeah, I'll send you the VHS to
be safe. OK, OK.
So I'm sorry, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'mlaughing very hard at how many
Airbud titles you just ripped off there, bro.
Throwing out 7th inning fetch isremarkable.
It does, kind of. OK, So just just to just to make

(01:06:52):
sure that we we cover the analytics unfortunately 21% for
big and hairy on Rotten Tomatoes.
I forgot to vote. Bummer.
To be fair. Accurate.
OK, got it. OK, Brian, over to you.
Third pick. Oh, there's MVP.
That's the most valuable primate.
He plays hockey. Fucking eh.

(01:07:13):
Did it come as a box set? You said it was my turn.
It comes Can I get a box set my turn?
Is this the last one? No, you know, one more.
After this is your third, you gave us Father John Misty and
you gave us so it's number all. Right, so I had two cover songs
I was going to throw in here. Depending on the I'm going to go
with the more upbeat one. It's probably polite to know the

(01:07:36):
artist being covered, but you know what?
They're probably used to it because the song is one of my
favorite artists, artists of alltime.
Amy Winehouse and her version ofValerie.

(01:08:13):
Produced by yeah, Mark Ronson. Rod knows this from me doing
karaoke. I sure do karaoke this.
He sings it well at karaoke. I sing it.
Somewhere I have a video of him doing this at karaoke.
Nice. That's great.
Crazy song, Good horn lands. I know this song also obviously
well obviously I know this, but I've heard other artists cover

(01:08:34):
this song and I never bothered to look up who the original
artist was ever and I always knew this was a cover, but I
also had never looked this up. Bad job to both you guys.
Have do you know Don? No, I don't fucking know, but I
didn't pick the song. The Zutans.
It's not the Zutans. The Zutans version came out in
2006. It's she's unraveling right now.

(01:08:56):
I feel like she's unraveling right now.
Well. This version was released in
2007. Oh, I guess yeah.
I guess it is the Zutans. Weird.
Who the fuck are the Zutans? Well, that's they have a song
called Valerie. You've never heard it?
Yeah, they wrote a hit song called.
OK, cool the fucking Zutans whata sorry that's a bad band name.
They have a guitar the OK I whendoes and I'm on looking at the

(01:09:20):
Zutans song Valerie on Wikipediais a photo of guitar made of a
shovel. Now I do feel like I need to go.
There's a whole guy that does that.
And a shovel is not a horn. I looked it up.
Shovel is not a horn. There's a whole guy that does
that. His name is Jay.
Jake something Jake he crushes. This, their version of this song

(01:09:43):
has 60 million plays. So, yeah, I mean, that's nowhere
close to, you know, Amy Winehouse.
Justin Johnson. Give him a Give him a listen.
When you get a second, you know who Justin Johnson is.
Plays a three string shovel and kills.
It I, I've never heard of that in my life.
But hey, you know what though? Good for him.
That's awesome. That's impressive.
Why he doesn't play a shovel though?

(01:10:05):
Because he's fucking cool. He looks like a guy that would
play a three string 3 string shovel.
And he wails. Dude, he fucking wails.
Go listen to this asshole play the shovel.
Not like in real time. Don't listen to it now.
But listen to it. Yeah.
Just love how passionate things are.
I will. I will listen to this.
Can you describe it? Which part the sound doesn't?

(01:10:27):
Shovel sounds like a guitar. That I think that's what I
meant. Like, I don't mean why would you
do it? Because you I mean, obviously
you can. So if if you can, somebody's
going to do it. I meant like, does it sound
different or does it just sound like a guitar?
It sounds, it's got a little sounds a little dirtier.
I knew because. You dig it.
Say that, you asshole. You asshole.

(01:10:48):
I mean, it was there. It was there for the taking.
And you absolutely had to. Yeah, you had to all.
Right, Roderick, Wait, you got more to say about Valerie?
You got more Valerie's stuff. Well, this actually transitions
well. So I have a question now when
you because you already brought it up, Brian, this was Valerie
by is it listed as Amy Winehouseand Mark Ronson?

(01:11:08):
Yeah, and it's his name's first,and because he's the one that
produced, I think there was other other tunes on that
project. OK, well then my my next pick
was going to be Mark Ronson and I'm dead.
Really. So I guess I can't then.
Can't I fuck? What's your fault?
I was going to pick feel right, Mark Ronson Mystical, which is a

(01:11:29):
on a Mark Ronson album. OK, Yeah.
I can't have it. All right then.
Well, then this one isn't, doesn't, isn't going to fit the
rest of my theme then as being alittle surprising because I
think Mark Ronson does a lot of stuff with horns.
But that album was I don't know.It was it was more the
unexpectedness of a of a song with mystical on it.
Like I fucking love mystical in that song.

(01:11:49):
Having horns on it felt dope, but unexpected, like this whole
like James Brown thing that he was doing, but with mystical is
dope. But if I can't pick that one,
then this is going to be a little bit more expected, but
it's fine. I'm going to go Well fuck, how
many times has Leon Bridges been?
Up. I'm sorry, man.
Yeah, this threw me off. I had I.
Had Leon Bridges. I'm looking it up too, he's only

(01:12:11):
been on it once so maybe I can. And it wasn't even his.
It wasn't even his song. It was craned in and he was
featured. On it.
So I'm going, I'm going. Leon Bridges Better Man I.
Don't want my I just want to be your better man to my baby.

(01:12:34):
Give me all good luck. I was singing with them Jezebel.
Song's great, got that super cool, it's off coming home.
So that album was just like morelike really cool, hip 60s
motowny soul sounding album, butstill has that cool like Texas
dirtiness that Leon brings to stuff.

(01:12:55):
I really like this record, but. And he was on Kasey Musgraves
Christmas special with her. There we go.
There we go, bringing it back onKasey Musgraves.
I thought this was 1. Of that in a movie where Animal
played sports. He hasn't.
We could full circle this bitch.No, not that we're aware of.
I thought this was one of his bigger songs, to be honest, when

(01:13:17):
I picked it. Like it just came to me when we
started thinking about horns. And it's apparently not.
It's not in his top 10 plays on here.
So I guess it's not like a single, but it's it's yeah, it's
well, it's got 100 million plays.
So that'll the song is sexy, though.
Song is song is dope. It's the the fuck I don't know.
Saxophone is Is this all just a saxophone playlist at this
point? Is it all a saxophone?

(01:13:38):
We started that one. I'm listening Outkast brass.
I think it's yeah, that's true. That's that's not a saxophone.
I think this is just saxophones on the song.
I know T Rex isn't just sax phones.
But yeah, I, I don't know, man, like I thought we had talked
about Leon Bridges more in this podcast, but maybe we hadn't.
But he is like the fucking current master of that like
throwback, like neo soul kind ofsound.

(01:14:02):
I'm seeing him in a couple months with Charlie Crockett.
Him and Charlie Crockett are touring together.
I'm seeing that it's the The Crooner and Cowboy tour, which
is a great fucking tour name. What a.
Cool name too. Yeah, man.
Good. Job.
You guys like? Daniel Ratliff in the night
sweats. I do very much, yeah.

(01:14:22):
You kind of do similar. I mean different vibes but.
Yeah, they do it well, too. There's a lot of it out there.
Yeah, yeah. That throwback like Duran Jones
does it well. I mean, there's bands doing it.
I just feel like he's the fucking coolest, you know what I
mean? He's like he's he's just
bringing the cool to the table. So he just he keeps collabing
with amazing artists too. Like I just saw, I think I just

(01:14:43):
posted on Instagram the other day.
He's got he just put out a song with the is like the Gutierrez
brothers or something like that.Is that or the no, the brothers
Hermano and Hermanos means brothers Hermanos Gutierrez.
Like I got there Hermanos Gutierrez and Leon Bridges just
put out a song which is fucking fantastic.
It's called elegantly wasted. Everybody should go listen to
that too. Oh yeah.
So he's just he's just a cool motherfucker.

(01:15:04):
But thanks for dude Brian fucking you went third because
we didn't think steals were going to be an issue and you've
stolen a song or an artist from both me and Don in this pod.
So that's wild. Kind of stole it from myself
though. I that's actually my plan was my
only worry. Actually the only reason I did
Outcast first is that I'm a control freak and I didn't want

(01:15:26):
Don to pick like a like bow tie or something like a different
Outcast song. I wanted my Outcast song or
nothing. That's fair.
It's a smart move. It is me.
My last pick, Yeah. Your last pick?
Yeah, run. The Jewels and DJ Shadow.
Nobody speak, Hey. You want to hear a good joke?
Nobody speak, nobody get jokes. What a cool fucking great horn

(01:16:09):
addition to the song. This is one of those songs that
wouldn't be as cool as if it didn't have the horn, and I
guess that's all of them, but this one specifically.
Like that horn part is so cool where it lands.
This is just a fucking great song.
I don't know this song, man. Oh yeah, I do.
Fuck yes you do. Yeah, of course.
You know this song. I just didn't know the title
when you said it. Yeah, of course I know the song.
Nobody speak, but it's such a fucking great song.

(01:16:30):
It's such a cool horn line. And like I think this is LP and
Killer Mike's like some of theirbest Run the Jewels showing.
Like there's a ton of good Run the Jewels, but like this is
like both of their versus best best Run the Jewels showing for
sure. Yeah, they both crush it on the
song. The guitar lick that I'm
guessing Shadow brought to us crushes it.
That like Doo Doo, Doo, Doo Doo.It's dope.

(01:16:53):
Yeah, it's fantastic. More hip hop than I expected to
be on this. You think?
No, you didn't think so. I don't know why.
I just, you know, I guess I had a mystical song that I was going
to bring, but I wouldn't have considered that I would have.
Expected hip hop. Hip hop's got some cool old soul
horns. It totally does.
No I don't. I'm the dumb one, but yeah.

(01:17:14):
Well, yeah, that's true. It's still a horn.
You know, I'm I'm the one being dumb on this.
I don't know why I wasn't. Yeah, that's going to hip hop
for this episode at all. It makes no sense.
I think I had like a Talib qualias an option and I decided now
just go with the outcast and mixup the genres.
It makes perfect sense. Yeah.
And the fucking this horn line or the horn part on the song,
it's killer. Makes it makes it absolutely

(01:17:35):
makes the song better. I don't know.
I don't know what I was thinking.
I wasn't. That's what I wasn't thinking.
Yeah, you weren't. So this wasn't on a Run the
Jewels record, though, right? This was on a DJ Shadow record.
I was on the Run the Jewels record.
Which one? I don't remember.
Oh, it's on the it's is it around the drools 1 is the black
the black cover one. OK, OK, yeah, yeah, they're

(01:17:56):
touring with Wu Tang right now. They.
Are somebody just did Doug just go see him?
Doug saw him. Keith saw him.
Yeah, Doug said. It was one of the best shows
he's ever seen in his life. That's awesome.
But he saw him in New York and he was like, I he was like, I
don't know if they're doing thisthe whole tour.
He was like, I think it was justbecause it was the New York City
show. He's like the everybody came out
during the Wu Tang set. Oh, that's cool.

(01:18:18):
So many artists that they've collabed with over the years
came out and did a song with him.
Like, he just was rattling off rappers that did like, came on
for one song. So he probably saw them in, I
mean, it's their hometown show. I guess that makes sense.
That was probably the the place to see him.
Yeah. I've never have you ever seen
Run the Jewels. No, I can also just see, you
know, it's not on the Run the Jewels album.

(01:18:40):
It's not OK. It is DJ Shadow.
Album. Yeah, it's on DJ Shadow Album,
not it's on. It's Not on The Mountain Will
Fall by DJ Shadow. I had tickets to see Run the
Jewels in 20. We've talked about this.
When yeah, when COVID hit. So I've never seen them either
and I'm very mad about. And they were supposed to play.
With fucking Rage Against the Machine.

(01:19:00):
Rage Against the Machine. That's right.
Yeah. Zach de la Rocha came in one of
my stores the other day. I was not there.
Oh, I was gonna say you got to meet Zach de la Rocha.
You didn't fucking talk about that in the end, no.
That would have been in. That would have been in music
news. No, didn't talk about.
That yeah, no shit. All right, fuck it, run.
This is a great song. Now I feel I feel stupid for not
having any hip hop on this now but at least you guys brought it

(01:19:22):
is. This your first time?
Do you have another pick? I don't this is.
The last song of the mixtape. This is your last pick of the
entire mixtape and. Then you got some honorable
mentions. Didn't already pick, I already
picked 3. You picked 4.
Yeah, that was but we. Picked 4.
We picked 4. Yeah, we picked 4.
Yep. Nice. 4 each, so you get a
fourth pick here. I'm new here.

(01:19:42):
You've I know you listen. I know, but it just, I know you
guys are so entertaining. It goes fast.
I don't know what's going on. Because you're a big, you're a
big, you're a big commenter. I don't know if you knew that
Don Brian's big commenter on thepod.
That's a good point. So Steve, with that in mind, go
ahead and queue up Angel of Harlem by the band U2.

(01:20:02):
Oh wow, U2. Oh wait, I was not expecting
that. OK, can I pick a different?
One, now that's your, that's theone you picked, OK.
I didn't know we didn't have prank ones.
That's my bed. Oh, that was that was a prank
one. Why didn't it?
Oh sorry, I mean it wasn't a huge.
Prank I just, I was unprepared. And Don you, have you heard that

(01:20:24):
song? It's a Christmas song by U2 and
I would not recommend it. I, I feel like I need to bring
this full circle now because this, this has been my entire
friendship with Brian, where he has the driest sense of humor of
any human being I've ever met. And it usually takes me a while.
And no, he's joking because theygo over my head.
And this is, this is a throwbackto your comment.

(01:20:44):
I just said you're a big commenter.
He's throwing back to a comment he made about how YouTube
YouTube sucks and he agrees with.
You you too does suck about it. It's funny.
You 2 does suck. Yeah, I'm and this, you guys had
Zach on the podcast and he's a big YouTube fan and I he's the
reason why I've actually given them multiple chances just
because I'm like, maybe I'm old now, maybe I get it.
And I'm like, no, I get it even less.

(01:21:05):
Yeah, yeah. No, they suck.
They just suck all the way around, except for Sunday.
Bloody Sunday. And there's some Bono thing on
Netflix right now where he's, I think, I think I discovered
after the fact he's reading his own like autobiography or
something. But I thought it was like a one
man show and I was like what thefuck am I watching?
Should check it out. Yeah, but even Bono reading his

(01:21:26):
own autobiography on a Netflix special is the most pretentious
self appreciating. Ridiculously.
What an asshole. Amazingly terrible.
So I've now crossed out Angel ofHarlem because I now get that it
was a prank. All right, I'm free to go.
All right, well, what are we missing here?
We got you got some retro stuff in.
What's retro? Help me out.
Here I've had retro. Songs with horns where a guy

(01:21:48):
plays a shovel. That's pretty retro.
That's how you. I expected there to be more
indie rock on this because you're.
Right. OK, good.
Point. Let's do.
There hasn't been. All right, this is a band who I
really love this album. And then this is a band you
talked. Actually, this is one of the
comments I had made. There's a It's Black Country New
Road who utilizes their saxophone player and song's

(01:22:12):
called the place where he inserted delayed.

(01:22:36):
One of the tops, that's our top song.
Great song, love that album so much.
And then I can relate to the singer who disappeared off the
singer, the face of the earth from anxiety as they kind of
started to get big like before their album even came out.
They he just decided wasn't for him and they are continuing on.
They have a new album with female singer, very different

(01:22:56):
vibes. It's fine, I like it, but this
album was really important to me.
And then it's got a great voice.He's just very understated,
emotional. It takes a lot for me to kind of
these days I'm not, I don't know, inspired by a lot because
I'm old and jaded. So to have a newer indie rock
band kind of hit me like that was great.

(01:23:17):
So I have to throw this one out there.
This big builder in this one, big slow builder in this one.
You got to be patient. You got to be patient with this
one. Yeah, and the horns, you'll
barely hear, barely hear to the end.
Yeah. So is that so that was the
comment that you made because wewere talking about bands that
switched singers and stayed big,right?

(01:23:40):
And then you did comment this album on that.
And I didn't know. So I hadn't, I wasn't that
familiar with these guys. Like I had heard of them and I'd
seen, honestly, I was more familiar with them just because
they were big enough where I would see these their album
artwork everywhere, like that painting of the the toy plane
and like the plastic bag from this record that this song's on.
I didn't know that they'd switched singers, but I did know
their most recent record. People love it like it.

(01:24:02):
It is blown up two and people love this record.
And I had no idea until you commented that that I had a
different singer on it. Well, I wouldn't have known
because I didn't really know this band.
But that's that is interesting to me that a band can have a
huge record and then switch singers and still have another
huge record on the follow up just like a couple years later
too. It's not like it's not like they
broke up and then reformed like 10 years later with a different

(01:24:24):
singer because the singer didn'twant to do it.
They put out a record and then like a couple years later put
out a record with a new singer. So it's wild.
Does the new singer. It's not that I don't like the
new album, it's good. It's just that like the other,
like the what is the album you can call?
It's so personal the The Ants. From up there.
The ants from up there. And so like when you take

(01:24:46):
something like, I'm like, you'relistening to these songs,
picturing the dude like, and histrials and fibrillations and
his, the emotion and the, you know, and his voice.
And then you've switched to a female song, female harmonies,
different lyrical content and stuff.
Like it doesn't hit quite the same.
So I've not it's, it's, but it'slike a different band, you know,

(01:25:07):
it's just to me, it's, it's not the same band.
It's another good band, but I prefer the old.
One got you. It's I mean, I know we already
kind of had this conversation ona different episode, but I just
wonder why the decision to not just change the band name then,
because you are like changing somuch of your sound at that
point. Like the lyrical content's going
to change. The vocals are changing.
I mean, I guess the music is similar still with like the

(01:25:28):
horns and the stuff that they'redoing, but feels like maybe just
an opportunity to change the band name.
But I don't know if you're successful, maybe you want to
keep the band name, build on thesuccess.
So I get it, I get it. But people love this new record,
man. Did you you do like this new
one? Like should I give it a listen?
I haven't listened to it yet. I like here's the thing.

(01:25:50):
And I'm, I want, I, I want to like it more than I like it.
And I hate saying that. Like I'm trying over and I'm on
like maybe 4th and 5th time revisiting it because I don't
want to be the guy that's like, right.
Because I mean, these, I mean, the singer and the other members
of the band were already there. She just wasn't upfront.
And like they're all already contributing creatively to the

(01:26:11):
sound. But it's just, it's a complete
vibe switch. It's completely different from
me. And you know, I'm, you know,
right. You know, I'm an emotional dude.
This other, you know, the old singer had, he did it for me.
And then the new stuff just isn't quite the same.
So it's a different band, but they're doing well, so good for
them. Yeah, they're on.
They're on a ton of like, the like, best albums of the year so

(01:26:32):
far lists that people have been putting out because it's halfway
through the year. Like this album's on a ton of
those lists. It's like a top top 10 record of
2025 so far. So.
Yeah. All right.
Well, this is what I'll tell you.
What's nice about this is going to force me to listen to a band
that I've kind of avoided listening to, and I don't know
why I've avoided listening to it.

(01:26:54):
It's one of those situations where like the more people tell
me, the more I see people talking about how good a band
is. Maybe because I'm also old and
jaded, I like him less likely togo listen to it because I'm just
like, don't tell me what to listen to.
Don't tell me what to listen to,damn it.
Like friends tell me I will listen to it.
But when I'm when I constantly see stuff on social media or
like articles that I'm reading about a band, for some reason, I

(01:27:15):
don't want to go listen to them.But this can make make me listen
to this band now. So because I respect your
musical taste, Brian, always have.
I haven't, but I'm. Getting there.
You don't like your own musical taste?
Honorable mentions. I had a lot actually.
I'm going to streamline this. I had Crystal Frontier by

(01:27:38):
Calexico band. I listened to a lot in college
and haven't really listened too much but I've been listening to
him this week because because ofthis podcast but just didn't
feel like they made the cut for this episode.
I had Silly Love Songs by Wings.I had Holland 1945 by Neutral
Milk Hotel. I had that one.
Totally wouldn't pick that if I hadn't.

(01:27:59):
Yeah, I'd already picked them ona pot.
Not that that matters that much,but I picked them somewhat
recently, I think. And then I had.
I don't know if you guys are familiar with this band.
Like Jason is going to nerd out on this pic and they're a little
too obscure. That's why I didn't pick them.
But the song is called You're Fucking Sunny Day by Lamb Chop.
The band is Lamb Chop, which is like a 90s band that never

(01:28:20):
really got huge but put out a lot of albums.
So Jason's gonna love that. I mention them, I'm sure.
Hi, Jason. Oh yeah.
And then I have a fun one for you 2 because I just think it's
I actually really like this album.
But the song Happy by Lit House horns in it and I actually love
that album. It's on that album.

(01:28:41):
It's on that. Yep.
The one with with all with the other songs that people with no
lip for. Yeah, there you go.
Don, what do you got? Honourable mentions.
Well I had to use one because Spodio Doppolis just got taken
so I have come on Eileen by DexyMidnight runner but also a bit
problematic so maybe not Jamiroquai can't eat.

(01:29:02):
That's good. Good one The Seed 2 point O by
Cody Chestnut and the Roots. Cody Chestnut was one of those
artists that should have exploded and never did.
He had a 2 disc album come out that was incredible called
Something About Leather. He also has a song called I Look
Good with I Look Good in Leather.

(01:29:22):
But Cody Chestnut should have been huge and just never got big
and it was really weird. The Headphone Masterpiece is the
name of the album and then my last one is Smooth by Santana
featuring Rob Thomas. It's my last honorable mention.
Fantastic, fantastic. Great, great horns in that one.

(01:29:44):
Right. What did you have, Brian?
I mean, I had a shit ton, but I'll just I'll say yeah.
When I picked the Amy Winehouse one, I was trying to pick
between one of two covers. The other one would have been
Nancy Sinatra. It ain't me, babe.
Bob Dylan, Bob Dylan cover. Really cool little little horny
vibe in that one. More low teeth.
I know the End by Phoebe Bridgers another and kind of

(01:30:06):
similar, similar to the the Black Country new Road 1 like
it. It's a slow build.
It's a long fucking song. And then the horns start
building up and it's also topical because of the in Disney
here. All right, And we got got to get
you into my life. The Beatles.
The Beatles have plenty of awesome horn lines in their
songs. Yeah, they do.
Yeah, we leave it, leave it at that.
It's a lot. Nice.

(01:30:28):
Yeah, Paul songs. Paul loves to put horns in
songs. So a lot of like the Paul
Beatles songs, a lot of like hissolo stuff had horns.
A lot of wing songs had horns. Heavy horns from Paul.
RIP that list. Here's a list Mariachi L Bronx
48 Roses Boy meets girl waiting for a stall in a fall outcast.

(01:30:51):
Bodio, D Double Licious, Radiohead, A National Anthem, T
Rex Bang a Gong, Parentheses GetIt on Father John Misty, Chateau
lobby #4 and C for Two Virgins. The Replacements can't hardly
wait. The Coasters down in Mexico.
Amy Winehouse, Amy Winehouse, Valerie Leon Bridges, Better
Man, Run the Jewels and DJ Shadow.

(01:31:12):
Nobody Speak Black Country. New Road, the place where he
inserted the blade. This is eclectic.
It's a super fucking eclectic. This is eclectic.
This is an eclectic one. And you said I'm not allowed to
start it with Waiting for a Starto Fall and end with the same
song. That's not allowed.
Right. You know what?
Since who Who Who just started throwing extra songs on Pete?

(01:31:37):
Just did an extra. Song Pete went fucking rogue and
did whatever he wanted to. Go ahead, Brian, do whatever you
want. Be careful, Sir.
Yeah, do whatever you want. It's.
Going to be 12. Of you got to be careful.
If you send the track listing back to Rod and it's waiting for
a star to fall 12 times and thenit's just a dedicated mixtape

(01:31:57):
for your dad, it'll be called Mr. Meredith's Cleaning
Cleaning. Mixtape and then it'll be
waiting for a star to fall over and over and over on a piece.
Fall too far from the star. Yeah.
How to make a mixtape. All right, Brian, thanks for

(01:32:19):
doing this. We've been talking.
To you forever. And start to finally get you on.
I'll be in Chicago. Soon, what's the weather going
to be like? Pretty fucking terrible,
probably. When are you getting here?
Well, it's going to be like a week or.
Like in a month, like a few weeks and I.
Know it'll still be in. Chicago, it's going to be
terrible, right? Yeah.
It'll still be terrible for you.It'll be nice and you'll feel
like you're. Standing in a dog's mouth,

(01:32:40):
that's what Chicago means, right?
In a dog's mouth, Yeah, it feels.
Like you're standing in a dog's mouth.
That's what it feels like outside right now.
Sweet, glad we could ring in forhorns.
I I. Swear, I'm not trying to
typecast you. I just know that you were
passionate about non ska. So no, he had like a whole
playlist. You still have that playlist,
right? Where it's like just great songs
with horns that aren't ska. Like that was the thing that you

(01:33:00):
were like, Oh yeah, I found you talking to talking about me or.
I Yep I found another play. I built this playlist and I had
another one like 3 times as long.
I was like, oh shit. And the playlist was called
songs that are definitely ska and they are not at all.
Yeah, I just knew you were passionate about that, so I
wanted to have you on to do. That to do that mixtape.
So I can't wait for titles of this one of this episode.

(01:33:24):
Horns. Not horns, not horns, right?
And I used to play horns. You both played trumpet, right?
Yep. We.
Both played trumpet, Yeah. Did you play horns, Don?
No, I never played a horn. Do you play in high school bands
or like middle? School bands or you inquire Fire
dude. Inquire, of course you were the
Elvisolo and the Joseph Medley that.
Angelic voice of yours. I have the Elvis solo in the

(01:33:44):
Joseph. Medley.
I see him on the streets of Disney.
No big fucking deal. Yeah, Brian was a better trumpet
player than me. He was further up in the chair.
Yeah, second chair, I was like 3rd or 4th and that was.
With. Wow, an army man stuck in my
trumpet. Obstacles, dummy and shaking me
the whole time. Wow, very impressive.

(01:34:05):
Yeah, super impressive. You should.
Put that on. Your on this repeats.
Spotify Description. I agree it feels like it feels
like it's relevant. Second chair horn section with
an army man stuck in my trumpet.All right.
Guys, I I've got stuff to do. We're recording in the.
Middle of the day on a Saturday,which is the first time we've
ever done this. What do you have to do?
What do you have to do? I mean nothing important, just

(01:34:26):
like it's the. Weekend so I got boring adult.
Shit to do? I'm just saying doing in the
middle of the day on a weekend mixtape is the first time we've
ever done this and I'm not sure how I feel about it.
I like to either drink coffee inthe morning with my mixtape or I
like to drink alcohol at night while I'm making mixtape and I
felt weird doing it in the middle of the day so I kind of
didn't either. I had a this is barrel proof Wye

(01:34:49):
whiskey from. Observed, I noticed.
Great job. Oh, with the spiteful weekend.
Can do whatever, shout out. Chicago.
Do you know where? Spiteful is Don.
No. In Andersonville, Bowmanville,
that's where we used to live. Trustee.
It's good. Bowmanville baby couple of
Bowmanville. Vets over here.
Hell yeah. I didn't live there at the same
time you did, Brian, but we bothlived in Bowmanville.

(01:35:10):
Technically, yeah. Hell yeah.
Well, thanks guys. Thanks to meet you.
Don good to. Meet you too buddy, till next
time. Yeah, peace.

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