April 30, 2025 • 9 mins
Recorded live on April 16, 2025, at MD Expo Temecula, this episode features a powerful conversation with Justin Ross and Jamie Spragis of Fluke Biomedical, as they unveil the revolutionary ESA 710, a smart electrical safety analyzerbuilt to streamline HTM workflows.
Host Bryant “B-Hawk” Hawkins explores how this new technology integrates directly with CMMS platforms, enables cloud-based backups, provides step-by-step visual procedures, and empowers new and seasoned biomedical technicians alike. From ECG simulation to barcode scanning and automated documentation, this smart analyzer isn’t just efficient — it’s transformative.
Whether you're a biomed manager, field service tech, or HTM educator, this episode will change how you think about safety testing in 2025 and beyond.
We are immensely grateful to our partners: College of Biomedical Equipment Technology, A.M. BICKFORD, INC., UptimeServices, PM BIOMEDICAL and Talent Exclusive—for their support in making this podcast possible. Their dedication to advancing the Healthcare Technology Management industry is truly commendable. For more information about their contributions and services, please visit their websites.
For more podcast episodes, motivational videos, blogs, and newsletters, make sure to visit our website at www.elevatehtm.com. We look forward to connecting with you.
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Bryant Hawkins (00:03):
Good morning.
We're live from MD Expo inTemecula.
I have two special guests froma company called Fluke
Biomedical.
I'll let them introducethemselves to you first.
Justin Smith (00:14):
Hi, I'm Justin Ross.
With Fluke Biomedical I'm oneof our product specialists.
Jamie Spragis (00:19):
And I'm Jamie Sprat.
Just with Fluke Biomedical, I'man EQA sales engineer.
Bryant Hawkins (00:24):
How are you guys doing?
Justin Smith (00:25):
Oh, we're absolutely awesome, brother,
brother, it's an exciting dayfor us y'all enjoying temecula
so far yeah, yeah.
Jamie Spragis (00:30):
Well, we've been inside most of the time.
You know, I was gonna say it'sthe weather's great inside us
here casino.
Justin Smith (00:35):
Yes, we know that part yeah, but the meaning we're
talking though oh yeah, man, Imean, like for us, like I said,
it's a really exciting time forus right now.
We had something under wrapsthe last few months and it's
busting out today.
So it's been a lot ofexcitement, a lot of high energy
with the Fluke team today.
Bryant Hawkins (00:53):
So what's going on?
What's this great news Can?
Justin Smith (00:55):
you all share.
Jamie Spragis (00:56):
Well, we are launching and releasing a brand
new electrical safety analyzer,kind of on the front end of
being on a smart instrument sideof the business.
Safety analyzer kind of on thefront end of being on a smart
instrument side of the business.
You know BHAWK, so many thingsin our biomed industry.
Add steps right.
You open your CMMS step one,step two, step three.
You close your CMMS step two,three, four, five, six.
(01:17):
We've launched a product toreduce steps in the biomed's
daily workflow.
Bryant Hawkins (01:23):
So what's?
Justin Smith (01:24):
this called.
So this is our brand new ESA700 series safety analyzer.
So not only is it a safetyanalyzer, but we're calling it a
smart analyzer.
Bryant Hawkins (01:36):
Is it AI driven?
Justin Smith (01:38):
Yeah, well, it's darn near AI driven man.
So what we're going to do iswe're going to take.
So when you think about our dayas a technician man we got to
go out to, we got to find ourworkload and what we got to go
do.
What we've done is we'veintegrated our CMMS into our
analyzer so you can jump intothe analyzer with a barcode
(01:59):
scanner.
You can either use it just asan analyzer, but if you can take
that CMMS, jump into here, takea barcode skin instrument and
it'll pull up your procedure andwalk you right through,
including pictures.
So we all know things like youknow, if you flip around step
seven and step nine, you canshave some time.
So you can build that procedure, have it right here at your
fingertips when it comes timefor electrical safety.
It's going to do all yourmeasurements for you and save
(02:22):
the exact figures into it.
You can even do things like addtemperatures and weights and
RPMs and pressures and all that,enter it right here in the
device and then take thoseresults and launch it right back
into your CMMS.
Boom, not just that, but italso backs it up on the cloud,
(02:43):
so you have a backup of all yourworkhorse.
So say, your SEMA mess goesdown today, you have a backup
copy of it out there on thecloud, ready for you whenever
you need it.
Bryant Hawkins (02:49):
So the cloud has to be hooked up to the Wi-Fi
for it to happen.
Justin Smith (02:54):
It can.
It can.
So the analyzer itself willsave up to 10,000 results
internal and we can either use aUSB-C cable to download them to
our laptop and then up to thecloud, or we have a secure Wi-Fi
adapter, not just Wi-Fi secure.
So because we know everyhospital in the United States
man data security is such anissue with us, we got you
(03:15):
covered.
We have secure Wi-Fi adapters.
You can put encryption on itand launch over the hospital's
encrypted network back to thatcloud.
Bryant Hawkins (03:23):
How many measurements can you save in the
cloud?
Jamie Spragis (03:27):
It'll save 10,000 measurements in the device.
Yeah, yeah, we'll never usethat.
In a week or two, you knowthat's right, that's right,
that's right.
That's a a week or two.
You know that's right, that'sright, that's right.
That's a couple months for them, you know.
Bryant Hawkins (03:41):
So I'm looking at it right here.
Does it measure ECG or what?
Justin Smith (03:44):
Yeah, so we have a built-in five-lead ECG
simulator and we can test up to10 applied parts on top of it.
But say like you're working onan EMG man, you got to test all
those 1 million leads on an EMGhat, right?
So what you can do is you guysuse one of our adapters from our
older safety analyzer and I canput 10 leads under each of
these points.
But check this out, man.
I know you guys can't see thiswhen you're online, but I need
(04:09):
to be plugged in for this.
It'll light up and tell youwhich port to use.
So the thing lights up like aChristmas tree and it'll drive
you right through the procedure.
Bryant Hawkins (04:19):
So it will give you direction on how to use it.
Jamie Spragis (04:21):
Visual direction.
You can have a visual.
You can put a picture of how tohook it up, how the monitor is.
You can take a picture of themedical device.
Justin Smith (04:34):
You can take a picture of how you hook it up so
you can use visualization withyour new techs you know.
So you can take, like say, youhave an old tech, old tech man,
a guy who's just sent him out toschool, and I shouldn't say a
guy.
You take a tech, you send himout to anesthesia machine school
.
What's that cost for a week ofanesthesia machine school?
Bryant Hawkins (04:46):
um the cost yeah , at about wait, I'm not allowed
to ask you questions?
Justin Smith (04:50):
he done, he done.
Told me not to ask himquestions and I'm already
getting cut and I didn't evenget to get start.
Look at those Christmas lights.
Bryant Hawkins (04:57):
It's about $9,500 right now.
Justin Smith (04:59):
Yeah, $9,500 per week.
So as soon as you train up oneof your technicians, man, he's
got all that knowledge.
What's the next thing thathappens?
Somebody else steals them andyou lost your knowledge.
So what we can do here, man, iswe can take this and we can
build your procedure into this,and we can take that knowledge
base and save it into our systemso that the young tech can
follow through thoseinstructions with next to no
(05:22):
training, just following thesteps, adding the pictures boom.
Bryant Hawkins (05:26):
Wow, that's amazing, that's game changing.
Justin Smith (05:30):
It is game changing, game changing.
Bryant Hawkins (05:31):
You're absolutely right, but let me ask
you a question.
What is this list of thingsright here?
Justin Smith (05:36):
These are a bunch of different procedures that we
built into our system and loadedit into here, so it'll walk you
right here.
So it's like a patient bed.
This will walk you rightthrough the entire patient bed
procedure.
So all the questions you'd havein your SEMA med system.
You don't need your cell phone,you don't need your laptop, you
don't need a notebook All yourquestions right here.
Man, look at that.
What's it say?
Bryant Hawkins (05:54):
Confirm the exterior of the bed is clean and
undamaged.
Justin Smith (05:57):
We're going to say our bed's clean and undamaged.
We're going to hit, pass there,green light, go, move to the
next step.
And we're going to go throughall the questions in our CMMS
right here and wait, wait, checkthis out, check this out.
Boom Picture, how to do therail test.
Wait, and now check this out.
Next step we need to putweights on.
Where do you put the weights?
Right there, see that picturewith the weights.
(06:17):
And we got to enter weightBrian.
I'm going to have to ask you afavor, man, because you're on
the other side.
Can you type a number between49 and 51?
Yeah, let's see what a pet does.
No, no, dude, run it.
Yeah, you're good.
Oh, oh, passed.
So you got.
Wait, wait.
Now you're here again.
Now we have to do it.
200 pounds.
(06:38):
Try another number.
Jamie Spragis (06:42):
Do it over 202 pounds.
Justin Smith (06:45):
And hit okay, and what do you get?
Big red light.
So you know the step failed.
Now I can go back and retestthat.
Maybe I have to calibrate thatscale.
I can retest it and get ouranswers.
Now I'm right back intoelectrical safety and this
thing's gonna run my electricalsafety testing for me, show me
where to hook up my ports, savemy results so I can be doing
important things like filling upmy biomed sticker or drinking a
(07:06):
cup of coffee or looking for mynext device.
So the other neat thing aboutit is man, as weird as it sounds
, because we've all dropped oursafety analyzers off the top of
endotowers and anesthesiamachines.
They integrated these twolittle rubber pads on the bottom
.
And people say rubber pads, yes, it is, because when you plug
it in it's got enough weightthat it won't let it get drug
(07:27):
off the table.
Jamie Spragis (07:31):
And you know that's our passion.
What are the size of the biomedcarts?
Now, B-Hawk, Right, you knowlaptops, Everybody wants a big
laptop.
You get a laptop electricalsafety analyzer, you get patient
simulators, you get a coupletools and a clipboard or
whatever you need, and you'redropping stuff halfway.
So this right here, you knowsize means something, Size
matters right.
Size matters.
(07:51):
It absolutely does In the biomeevery year.
Justin Smith (07:53):
Not only that, but how about this one?
What happens if you unplug it?
Ah Huh.
Jamie Spragis (07:58):
What happens when you unplug it.
Justin Smith (08:01):
So what?
I can go down and do devices onthe fly as I'm walking down the
hallway.
So I could literally be walkingdown the hallway with my safety
analyzer on, find a biomedsticker that's expired, take my
barcode scanner, scan it, pullup that work order.
And when I plug it into theelectrical safety.
Bryant Hawkins (08:20):
it'll start to charge itself again.
Wow, that's amazing.
Well, man, I appreciate youguys coming on Spending a little
time with me in the ExpoTemecula.
This is the new Fluke ESA 710.
Justin Smith (08:33):
When does it come on the market.
It starts today, today.
Bryant Hawkins (08:39):
Once again, justin and Jamie, thanks for
coming on, man, I appreciate theenergy you guys brought to the
podcast today.
Jamie Spragis (08:46):
So B-Hawk, I want to leave you with this.
Your passion is the nextgeneration of biomeds right,
it's exciting and igniting thatpassion, like we had right.
Giving them new testinstrumentation is that path.
You know what I mean.
Back when we started we gotthem old boxes that they were
broke down.
But giving a new guy, you know,because all the biomeds now
(09:09):
they're fluent with their phonesand that is the latest
technology of the world right,and that is the latest
technology of the world right Inthe medical device world.
Instrumentation gets themexcited to want to go out and
have a piece of instrument likethat to go do their PMs, because
it makes it a smart device, notjust a standalone device, and
it's new, cutting-edgetechnology.
That's what the passion is allabout.
(09:32):
Thank you, bianca Hi.
Good morning.
We're live from MD Expo inTemecula.
I have two special guests froma company called Fluke
Biomedical.
I'll let them introducethemselves to you first.
Justin Smith (00:14):
Hi, I'm Justin Ross.
With Fluke Biomedical I'm oneof our product specialists.
Jamie Spragis (00:19):
And I'm Jamie Sprat.
Just with Fluke Biomedical, I'man EQA sales engineer.
Bryant Hawkins (00:24):
How are you guys doing?
Justin Smith (00:25):
Oh, we're absolutely awesome, brother,
brother, it's an exciting dayfor us y'all enjoying temecula
so far yeah, yeah.
Jamie Spragis (00:30):
Well, we've been inside most of the time.
You know, I was gonna say it'sthe weather's great inside us
here casino.
Justin Smith (00:35):
Yes, we know that part yeah, but the meaning we're
talking though oh yeah, man, Imean, like for us, like I said,
it's a really exciting time forus right now.
We had something under wrapsthe last few months and it's
busting out today.
So it's been a lot ofexcitement, a lot of high energy
with the Fluke team today.
Bryant Hawkins (00:53):
So what's going on?
What's this great news Can?
Justin Smith (00:55):
you all share.
Jamie Spragis (00:56):
Well, we are launching and releasing a brand
new electrical safety analyzer,kind of on the front end of
being on a smart instrument sideof the business.
Safety analyzer kind of on thefront end of being on a smart
instrument side of the business.
You know BHAWK, so many thingsin our biomed industry.
Add steps right.
You open your CMMS step one,step two, step three.
You close your CMMS step two,three, four, five, six.
(01:17):
We've launched a product toreduce steps in the biomed's
daily workflow.
Bryant Hawkins (01:23):
So what's?
Justin Smith (01:24):
this called.
So this is our brand new ESA700 series safety analyzer.
So not only is it a safetyanalyzer, but we're calling it a
smart analyzer.
Bryant Hawkins (01:36):
Is it AI driven?
Justin Smith (01:38):
Yeah, well, it's darn near AI driven man.
So what we're going to do iswe're going to take.
So when you think about our dayas a technician man we got to
go out to, we got to find ourworkload and what we got to go
do.
What we've done is we'veintegrated our CMMS into our
analyzer so you can jump intothe analyzer with a barcode
(01:59):
scanner.
You can either use it just asan analyzer, but if you can take
that CMMS, jump into here, takea barcode skin instrument and
it'll pull up your procedure andwalk you right through,
including pictures.
So we all know things like youknow, if you flip around step
seven and step nine, you canshave some time.
So you can build that procedure, have it right here at your
fingertips when it comes timefor electrical safety.
It's going to do all yourmeasurements for you and save
(02:22):
the exact figures into it.
You can even do things like addtemperatures and weights and
RPMs and pressures and all that,enter it right here in the
device and then take thoseresults and launch it right back
into your CMMS.
Boom, not just that, but italso backs it up on the cloud,
(02:43):
so you have a backup of all yourworkhorse.
So say, your SEMA mess goesdown today, you have a backup
copy of it out there on thecloud, ready for you whenever
you need it.
Bryant Hawkins (02:49):
So the cloud has to be hooked up to the Wi-Fi
for it to happen.
Justin Smith (02:54):
It can.
It can.
So the analyzer itself willsave up to 10,000 results
internal and we can either use aUSB-C cable to download them to
our laptop and then up to thecloud, or we have a secure Wi-Fi
adapter, not just Wi-Fi secure.
So because we know everyhospital in the United States
man data security is such anissue with us, we got you
(03:15):
covered.
We have secure Wi-Fi adapters.
You can put encryption on itand launch over the hospital's
encrypted network back to thatcloud.
Bryant Hawkins (03:23):
How many measurements can you save in the
cloud?
Jamie Spragis (03:27):
It'll save 10,000 measurements in the device.
Yeah, yeah, we'll never usethat.
In a week or two, you knowthat's right, that's right,
that's right.
That's a a week or two.
You know that's right, that'sright, that's right.
That's a couple months for them, you know.
Bryant Hawkins (03:41):
So I'm looking at it right here.
Does it measure ECG or what?
Justin Smith (03:44):
Yeah, so we have a built-in five-lead ECG
simulator and we can test up to10 applied parts on top of it.
But say like you're working onan EMG man, you got to test all
those 1 million leads on an EMGhat, right?
So what you can do is you guysuse one of our adapters from our
older safety analyzer and I canput 10 leads under each of
these points.
But check this out, man.
I know you guys can't see thiswhen you're online, but I need
(04:09):
to be plugged in for this.
It'll light up and tell youwhich port to use.
So the thing lights up like aChristmas tree and it'll drive
you right through the procedure.
Bryant Hawkins (04:19):
So it will give you direction on how to use it.
Jamie Spragis (04:21):
Visual direction.
You can have a visual.
You can put a picture of how tohook it up, how the monitor is.
You can take a picture of themedical device.
Justin Smith (04:34):
You can take a picture of how you hook it up so
you can use visualization withyour new techs you know.
So you can take, like say, youhave an old tech, old tech man,
a guy who's just sent him out toschool, and I shouldn't say a
guy.
You take a tech, you send himout to anesthesia machine school
.
What's that cost for a week ofanesthesia machine school?
Bryant Hawkins (04:46):
um the cost yeah , at about wait, I'm not allowed
to ask you questions?
Justin Smith (04:50):
he done, he done.
Told me not to ask himquestions and I'm already
getting cut and I didn't evenget to get start.
Look at those Christmas lights.
Bryant Hawkins (04:57):
It's about $9,500 right now.
Justin Smith (04:59):
Yeah, $9,500 per week.
So as soon as you train up oneof your technicians, man, he's
got all that knowledge.
What's the next thing thathappens?
Somebody else steals them andyou lost your knowledge.
So what we can do here, man, iswe can take this and we can
build your procedure into this,and we can take that knowledge
base and save it into our systemso that the young tech can
follow through thoseinstructions with next to no
(05:22):
training, just following thesteps, adding the pictures boom.
Bryant Hawkins (05:26):
Wow, that's amazing, that's game changing.
Justin Smith (05:30):
It is game changing, game changing.
Bryant Hawkins (05:31):
You're absolutely right, but let me ask
you a question.
What is this list of thingsright here?
Justin Smith (05:36):
These are a bunch of different procedures that we
built into our system and loadedit into here, so it'll walk you
right here.
So it's like a patient bed.
This will walk you rightthrough the entire patient bed
procedure.
So all the questions you'd havein your SEMA med system.
You don't need your cell phone,you don't need your laptop, you
don't need a notebook All yourquestions right here.
Man, look at that.
What's it say?
Bryant Hawkins (05:54):
Confirm the exterior of the bed is clean and
undamaged.
Justin Smith (05:57):
We're going to say our bed's clean and undamaged.
We're going to hit, pass there,green light, go, move to the
next step.
And we're going to go throughall the questions in our CMMS
right here and wait, wait, checkthis out, check this out.
Boom Picture, how to do therail test.
Wait, and now check this out.
Next step we need to putweights on.
Where do you put the weights?
Right there, see that picturewith the weights.
(06:17):
And we got to enter weightBrian.
I'm going to have to ask you afavor, man, because you're on
the other side.
Can you type a number between49 and 51?
Yeah, let's see what a pet does.
No, no, dude, run it.
Yeah, you're good.
Oh, oh, passed.
So you got.
Wait, wait.
Now you're here again.
Now we have to do it.
200 pounds.
(06:38):
Try another number.
Jamie Spragis (06:42):
Do it over 202 pounds.
Justin Smith (06:45):
And hit okay, and what do you get?
Big red light.
So you know the step failed.
Now I can go back and retestthat.
Maybe I have to calibrate thatscale.
I can retest it and get ouranswers.
Now I'm right back intoelectrical safety and this
thing's gonna run my electricalsafety testing for me, show me
where to hook up my ports, savemy results so I can be doing
important things like filling upmy biomed sticker or drinking a
(07:06):
cup of coffee or looking for mynext device.
So the other neat thing aboutit is man, as weird as it sounds
, because we've all dropped oursafety analyzers off the top of
endotowers and anesthesiamachines.
They integrated these twolittle rubber pads on the bottom
.
And people say rubber pads, yes, it is, because when you plug
it in it's got enough weightthat it won't let it get drug
(07:27):
off the table.
Jamie Spragis (07:31):
And you know that's our passion.
What are the size of the biomedcarts?
Now, B-Hawk, Right, you knowlaptops, Everybody wants a big
laptop.
You get a laptop electricalsafety analyzer, you get patient
simulators, you get a coupletools and a clipboard or
whatever you need, and you'redropping stuff halfway.
So this right here, you knowsize means something, Size
matters right.
Size matters.
(07:51):
It absolutely does In the biomeevery year.
Justin Smith (07:53):
Not only that, but how about this one?
What happens if you unplug it?
Ah Huh.
Jamie Spragis (07:58):
What happens when you unplug it.
Justin Smith (08:01):
So what?
I can go down and do devices onthe fly as I'm walking down the
hallway.
So I could literally be walkingdown the hallway with my safety
analyzer on, find a biomedsticker that's expired, take my
barcode scanner, scan it, pullup that work order.
And when I plug it into theelectrical safety.
Bryant Hawkins (08:20):
it'll start to charge itself again.
Wow, that's amazing.
Well, man, I appreciate youguys coming on Spending a little
time with me in the ExpoTemecula.
This is the new Fluke ESA 710.
Justin Smith (08:33):
When does it come on the market.
It starts today, today.
Bryant Hawkins (08:39):
Once again, justin and Jamie, thanks for
coming on, man, I appreciate theenergy you guys brought to the
podcast today.
Jamie Spragis (08:46):
So B-Hawk, I want to leave you with this.
Your passion is the nextgeneration of biomeds right,
it's exciting and igniting thatpassion, like we had right.
Giving them new testinstrumentation is that path.
You know what I mean.
Back when we started we gotthem old boxes that they were
broke down.
But giving a new guy, you know,because all the biomeds now
(09:09):
they're fluent with their phonesand that is the latest
technology of the world right,and that is the latest
technology of the world right Inthe medical device world.
Instrumentation gets themexcited to want to go out and
have a piece of instrument likethat to go do their PMs, because
it makes it a smart device, notjust a standalone device, and
it's new, cutting-edgetechnology.
That's what the passion is allabout.
(09:32):
Thank you, bianca Hi.
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