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SPEAKER_00 (00:00):
Welcome to Human Wreckage, the podcast where we
(00:02):
explore the darkest corners ofhuman trauma and its aftermath,
so we can better understand howlives are shattered, how
communities respond, andultimately how healing can
begin.
I'm your host, Thomas.
Today we bring you a deeplyharrowing story, the true crime
case of Lena Zhang Harup, ayoung woman with Down syndrome
whose life was cut far tooshort, and the man who preyed on
(00:24):
her, Shamel Sharma.
This is a story ofvulnerability, violence, and the
ripple effects of a brutal acton family, friends, and society.
(01:06):
Trigger warning.
The following contains graphicdescriptions of sexual violence
and murder, details that somelisteners may find disturbing.
Please take care of yourselfwhile listening and consider
skipping or stopping if itbecomes too much.
Let's begin by introducing Lenawho she was, how she lived, and
what she meant to those wholoved her.
Born on the 8th of November1993, Lena Zhang Harup was
(01:30):
adopted as an infant, and fromvery early in life faced medical
and developmental challenges.
According to reporting, sheneeded surgery for a hole in her
heart and suffered repeatedbouts of pneumonia and related
health concerns.
Despite these obstacles, Lenagrew up to be a determined young
woman, proud of her independenceand her walks, engaged in her
community, loved by her family.
(01:52):
Her mother, Sue Herrup,described her as someone whose
sense of humor filled my lifewith smiles and laughter.
Lena lived in Auckland, NewZealand, she took daily walks
and activity her familyencouraged as a way for her to
be out, independent, movingthrough the neighborhood.
Her father, Martin Herrup, saidthat she was caring, funny,
clever, a beautiful dancer, awonderful daughter.
(02:15):
Lena wanted to do so much.
Now all that is gone.
These words make one pause,because what's lost here is not
just a life, but potentials,love, memories still to be made
a future cut short.
For her, the walk she took onthe morning of the twenty second
of september twenty twenty onewas a normal routine.
She left her home early aroundsix hundred thirty M, on what
(02:37):
should have been a typicalmorning.
We'll come back later thatmorning, but first let's shift
to the other side of theequation, the man who would end
her life.
The name Shamel Sharma is nowlinked forever with one of the
most shocking and brutal murdersin recent New Zealand criminal
history.
But who was he?
What path led to this crime?
At the time of offense, Sharmawas thirty three years old.
(02:59):
He had homeless status livingout of his car after being
evicted from emergencyaccommodation.
He had a history of mentalhealth issues.
In particular, he suffered fromschizophrenia.
He also had, according to theprosecution, a pattern of drug
use methamphetamine use, and itsassociated risk factors.
In the judicial review, it wasfound that despite his mental
(03:19):
health diagnosis, he was notfound legally insane at the time
of the offending.
The attack was motivated, theCrown said, by sexual desire and
violence, rather than by apsychotic break.
The court heard that the daybefore Lena's murder, Sharma had
engaged in other violentbehavior.
He reportedly stalked a womanwho was jogging early morning in
West Auckland, drovedangerously, and attempted to
(03:42):
run her over by swerving his caronto the footpath.
The prosecution argued that thisearlier incident functioned as a
rehearsal or precursor to thelarger, horrific act that
followed.
From this profile emerges a manin crisis, homeless, untreated
schizophrenia, drug using, withescalating sexual violence and
predatory behavior.
(04:02):
Yet because he was found fit toplead and not legally insane,
the system held him criminallyresponsible for the full
brutality he would inflict.
Now we arrive in the morning.
It was a typical early springmorning in Auckland.
Lena set out on her usualwalking route toward the Mount
Albert summit via the bush linetrack.
Her mother had that morningasked her to walk together
(04:23):
something she rarely did, butLena declined, and thus alone
she set off.
Meanwhile, Sharma had been inthe area.
Surveillance and CCTV show thathe had been walking up Grand
Avenue in Mount Albert.
Reports state that he glancedback at Lena several times as
she walked on the opposite side,then loitered until she entered
the more remote bush linedpathway.
(04:44):
That path, a seemingly innocuousroute for ordinary walkers,
became the scene of horror.
Investigators believe the attacklasted approximately two hours.
During that time, Lena wastortured.
There were thirteen bruises andabrasions to her head, blunt
force trauma causing braininjuries, sexual violations so
severe that some injuries alonecould have caused death.
(05:06):
Objects were placed in hermouth, and bite marks found on
her body.
Ultimately, she was strangled todeath.
The brutality is unimaginable.
Lena, a woman who walked dailyseeking independence, became
trapped by a predator who showedno mercy.
Her body was discoveredpartially concealed in shrubbery
about one kilometer from herhome.
(05:27):
A large scale search had takenplace earlier that morning when
her absence became noticed.
In the courtroom, her mother Suerecounted, it occurred to me
that he had literally taken herto the depths of hell.
And her father Martin asked, Howcould he value human life so
cheaply?
This wasn't just killing, it wastorture, violation, a bestial
act committed on a vulnerablehuman being who did nothing but
(05:49):
follow her routine.
The investigation turnedswiftly.
CCTV from the area had capturedboth Lena's movement and a
distinct image of a man Sharmawalking in the neighborhood
minutes before herdisappearance.
Forensic testing revealed bloodstains on Sharma's clothing and
shoes that matched Lena.
Sharma was arrested two dayslater.
He initially denied knowledge ofLena, but evidence closed in.
(06:13):
In court, the Crown prosecutortold the judge, This has a
degree of sadism through theinfliction of pain.
The legal process then moved.
Sharma pleaded guilty in October2022 to murder, sexual
violation, and dangerous drivingfor the earlier incident with
the jogger.
Psychiatric assessments wereconducted.
Experts concluded that he waswell above average risk of
(06:36):
sexual reoffending, and that theearlier attack on the jogger
appeared to be a buildup toLena's murder.
His mental health historyhomeless, living in his car,
heavy methamphetamine use,untreated schizophrenia were all
parts of the case, butcrucially, he was not found to
have been in a psychotic statethat would allow an insanity
defense.
In the courtroom, many family,friends, and community members
(06:58):
filled the galleries as mediacoverage made clear how this
case had shaken Auckland and NewZealand more broadly.
On the 4th of May 2023, Sharmawas sentenced in the Auckland
High Court, presided over byJustice Edwin Wiley.
He received a life sentence witha minimum non-parole period of
19 years and six months.
In addition, for the sexualviolation charge, he received
(07:20):
eleven years three months with amandatory non-parole period of
seven years four months, and forthe dangerous driving charge, a
further two months, all of theseto be served concurrently.
At sentencing, the judgedescribed the offending as
appalling, depraved, andsadistic.
From the family impactstatements, Lena's mother Sioux
said, No sentence is longenough, and no justice can
(07:43):
replace the life and love thatwas lost.
Lena's father asked, How longwas she conscious knowing she
would die?
The court acknowledged the highrisk Sharma posed, and that
release would only ever occur ifthe parole board deemed the
community safe, and even then,regretfully, part of the
discussion is overshadowed bythe sheer gravity of the
offense.
(08:03):
Justice Wiley noted the sentencehelps protect the public from
the risk you pose.
It's worth noting, a lifesentence in New Zealand does not
guarantee the offender willremain in prison for life, but
the non parole period is suchthat the practical possibility
of release is remote, especiallygiven the risk factors.
The case raised broaderquestions in New Zealand about
(08:24):
vulnerable adults, communitysafety, mental health,
homelessness, untreated illness,predatory sexual violence, and
how society protects those atrisk.
What we've covered so far arethe facts.
But this story is as much aboutpeople, community, and grief as
it is about crime.
Lena's life may have beenshorter than it should have
been, but it was full.
(08:45):
She fought early healthchallenges, embraced
independence, loved dancing,crafts, and community.
Her support worker recalled.
She was always very confident,nothing stopped her.
After her death, the walkwaywhere she was murdered became a
kind of memorial site.
Her mother visits often, walkingthe path Lena walked, bringing
remembrance.
(09:05):
What stands out is how thefamily have not only expressed
grief, but sought remembranceand healing.
For example, Lena's motherextended a message of
forgiveness.
Although your actions havebroken my heart, I too choose to
forgive you.
Forgiveness here does not meanforgetting or condoning.
It means choosing a path for theliving, for Lena's memory beyond
(09:26):
hate.
Also notable is the connectionbetween Lena's mother and the
jogging victim of Sharma'searlier attack, Tejalacharya.
The two women, though impacteddifferently, have formed a bond
through shared trauma andvulnerability.
The case stirred publicdiscourse, how society supports
vulnerable adults withdisabilities, how homelessness
coupled with untreated mentalillness can enable predation,
(09:49):
how women walking alone, even indaylight, remain vulnerable.
Detective Senior Sergeant JeffBaber remarked, Lena was a
fiercely independent anddetermined young woman whose
life was cut tragically short.
In short, the crime destroyedone life, devastated a family,
haunted a community, but Lena'slegacy also reminds us of the
(10:10):
value of each person,vulnerability turned into
independence and the importanceof community care and
protection.
Let's pause here for somereflections.
What can we learn from thistragic case?
Vulnerability and risk.
Lena's down syndrome, visualimpairment and health challenges
made her vulnerable, but she wasalso more than her
vulnerabilities.
Her independence mattered.
(10:32):
Society needs systems to protectvulnerable adults, but also to
empower them.
Predation and escalation.
Sharma's earlier incident to theattempted run over showed a
pattern.
The fact that the first incidentdid not intersect with a system
response strong enough toprevent the next day's tragedy
shows the gap between earlywarning and significant
violence.
(10:52):
Mental health, homelessness,addiction.
While none of these excuse thecrime, they are part of the
ecosystem.
Sharma had schizophrenia,substance use, homelessness
untreated service needs, gaps insocial supports.
The tragedy begs the question,would intervention earlier have
changed the path?
The defense indeed argued that acompulsory treatment order
(11:13):
should have been placed earlier.
Community and remembrance thewalkway where Lena died, the
tributes, the bonds formed inthe aftermath.
These are signs that while thecrime was singular, its impact
radiated.
Communities come together tomourn, remember, to ask
questions, to press for change.
Justice and Healing.
The sentence may satisfy legalaccountability, but does it
(11:34):
satisfy healing for Lena'sfamily?
Her mother's statementacknowledges that no sentence is
long enough, and no justice canreplace the life and love that
was lost.
The podcast asks What doesjustice look like when life is
removed so suddenly?
The value of each life.
Perhaps the clearest messageLena's life mattered.
(11:54):
The brevity of her life does notlessen its importance.
The story reminds us to payattention to those who live
quietly, independently,vulnerably, and to reinforce
that being on a walk should notmean being at risk of violence.
As we wrap up, I want to returnto Lena.
She walked because she could,because she chose to.
She danced, she crafted, shecontributed, she lived.
(12:16):
And though her life ended in theworst possible way, her memory
continues in her family's love,in community visits, in
conversations like this.
And to the system.
May this tragedy be a call toaction to ensure that homeless
people with mental illness aresupported, that vulnerable
adults have safe routes in theirdaily lives, that society
recognizes the signs ofescalation in predatory
(12:38):
violence, and that justicesystems remain mindful of the
humanity behind each case.
For our listeners, if this storyhas affected you, please
remember you're not alone.
Reach out for help if needed.
Support your loved ones, yourcommunity, and consider how you
might contribute to safety insimple ways.
Checking in with neighbors whowalk alone, advocating for
(12:59):
mental health and homelessnessservices, supporting
organizations for vulnerableadults.
Lena's story doesn't end in herdeath.
It continues in how we respond,remember, and act.
You know, I've done a lot ofepisodes for human wreckage, but
I have to be honest this one hasbeen one of the hardest.
Not just to research, not justto record, but to sit with.
(13:20):
Because what we've talked abouttoday isn't just a story.
It's a wound.
It's a reflection of how fragilewe really are, how easily things
can break, and how long it takesto put the pieces back together
if they ever truly fit again.
There's something about facingthe darkest parts of humanity
that leaves a mark.
Every time I dig into storieslike this, I'm reminded that
(13:41):
behind every headline, behindevery statistic, there's someone
who lived it.
Someone who loved, who hoped,who maybe never saw what was
coming.
And those stories, they don'tjust end when we stop recording.
They linger.
If you've made it this far,thank you for listening, for
caring, and for allowing spacefor conversations that aren't
easy to have.
Because that's what humanwreckage has always been about.
(14:03):
Finding meaning in the mess,empathy in the aftermath, and
maybe a bit of healing in thetelling.
If today's episode stirredsomething in you, take care of
yourself.
Reach out if you need to.
And remember, even in thewreckage, there's still humanity
sometimes cracked and scarred,but still there, still trying.
We'll be back soon with anotherstory one that might hurt, might
(14:24):
haunt, but hopefully helps usunderstand just a little more
about what it means to be human.
Thank you for listening to HumanWreckage.
If you found this episodemeaningful, please subscribe,
share, and leave a review.
Until then, stay safe, care forone another, and remember that
behind every statistic is ahuman life.
Welcome to Human Wreckage, the podcast where we
(00:02):
explore the darkest corners ofhuman trauma and its aftermath,
so we can better understand howlives are shattered, how
communities respond, andultimately how healing can
begin.
I'm your host, Thomas.
Today we bring you a deeplyharrowing story, the true crime
case of Lena Zhang Harup, ayoung woman with Down syndrome
whose life was cut far tooshort, and the man who preyed on
(00:24):
her, Shamel Sharma.
This is a story ofvulnerability, violence, and the
ripple effects of a brutal acton family, friends, and society.
(01:06):
Trigger warning.
The following contains graphicdescriptions of sexual violence
and murder, details that somelisteners may find disturbing.
Please take care of yourselfwhile listening and consider
skipping or stopping if itbecomes too much.
Let's begin by introducing Lenawho she was, how she lived, and
what she meant to those wholoved her.
Born on the 8th of November1993, Lena Zhang Harup was
(01:30):
adopted as an infant, and fromvery early in life faced medical
and developmental challenges.
According to reporting, sheneeded surgery for a hole in her
heart and suffered repeatedbouts of pneumonia and related
health concerns.
Despite these obstacles, Lenagrew up to be a determined young
woman, proud of her independenceand her walks, engaged in her
community, loved by her family.
(01:52):
Her mother, Sue Herrup,described her as someone whose
sense of humor filled my lifewith smiles and laughter.
Lena lived in Auckland, NewZealand, she took daily walks
and activity her familyencouraged as a way for her to
be out, independent, movingthrough the neighborhood.
Her father, Martin Herrup, saidthat she was caring, funny,
clever, a beautiful dancer, awonderful daughter.
(02:15):
Lena wanted to do so much.
Now all that is gone.
These words make one pause,because what's lost here is not
just a life, but potentials,love, memories still to be made
a future cut short.
For her, the walk she took onthe morning of the twenty second
of september twenty twenty onewas a normal routine.
She left her home early aroundsix hundred thirty M, on what
(02:37):
should have been a typicalmorning.
We'll come back later thatmorning, but first let's shift
to the other side of theequation, the man who would end
her life.
The name Shamel Sharma is nowlinked forever with one of the
most shocking and brutal murdersin recent New Zealand criminal
history.
But who was he?
What path led to this crime?
At the time of offense, Sharmawas thirty three years old.
(02:59):
He had homeless status livingout of his car after being
evicted from emergencyaccommodation.
He had a history of mentalhealth issues.
In particular, he suffered fromschizophrenia.
He also had, according to theprosecution, a pattern of drug
use methamphetamine use, and itsassociated risk factors.
In the judicial review, it wasfound that despite his mental
(03:19):
health diagnosis, he was notfound legally insane at the time
of the offending.
The attack was motivated, theCrown said, by sexual desire and
violence, rather than by apsychotic break.
The court heard that the daybefore Lena's murder, Sharma had
engaged in other violentbehavior.
He reportedly stalked a womanwho was jogging early morning in
West Auckland, drovedangerously, and attempted to
(03:42):
run her over by swerving his caronto the footpath.
The prosecution argued that thisearlier incident functioned as a
rehearsal or precursor to thelarger, horrific act that
followed.
From this profile emerges a manin crisis, homeless, untreated
schizophrenia, drug using, withescalating sexual violence and
predatory behavior.
(04:02):
Yet because he was found fit toplead and not legally insane,
the system held him criminallyresponsible for the full
brutality he would inflict.
Now we arrive in the morning.
It was a typical early springmorning in Auckland.
Lena set out on her usualwalking route toward the Mount
Albert summit via the bush linetrack.
Her mother had that morningasked her to walk together
(04:23):
something she rarely did, butLena declined, and thus alone
she set off.
Meanwhile, Sharma had been inthe area.
Surveillance and CCTV show thathe had been walking up Grand
Avenue in Mount Albert.
Reports state that he glancedback at Lena several times as
she walked on the opposite side,then loitered until she entered
the more remote bush linedpathway.
(04:44):
That path, a seemingly innocuousroute for ordinary walkers,
became the scene of horror.
Investigators believe the attacklasted approximately two hours.
During that time, Lena wastortured.
There were thirteen bruises andabrasions to her head, blunt
force trauma causing braininjuries, sexual violations so
severe that some injuries alonecould have caused death.
(05:06):
Objects were placed in hermouth, and bite marks found on
her body.
Ultimately, she was strangled todeath.
The brutality is unimaginable.
Lena, a woman who walked dailyseeking independence, became
trapped by a predator who showedno mercy.
Her body was discoveredpartially concealed in shrubbery
about one kilometer from herhome.
(05:27):
A large scale search had takenplace earlier that morning when
her absence became noticed.
In the courtroom, her mother Suerecounted, it occurred to me
that he had literally taken herto the depths of hell.
And her father Martin asked, Howcould he value human life so
cheaply?
This wasn't just killing, it wastorture, violation, a bestial
act committed on a vulnerablehuman being who did nothing but
(05:49):
follow her routine.
The investigation turnedswiftly.
CCTV from the area had capturedboth Lena's movement and a
distinct image of a man Sharmawalking in the neighborhood
minutes before herdisappearance.
Forensic testing revealed bloodstains on Sharma's clothing and
shoes that matched Lena.
Sharma was arrested two dayslater.
He initially denied knowledge ofLena, but evidence closed in.
(06:13):
In court, the Crown prosecutortold the judge, This has a
degree of sadism through theinfliction of pain.
The legal process then moved.
Sharma pleaded guilty in October2022 to murder, sexual
violation, and dangerous drivingfor the earlier incident with
the jogger.
Psychiatric assessments wereconducted.
Experts concluded that he waswell above average risk of
(06:36):
sexual reoffending, and that theearlier attack on the jogger
appeared to be a buildup toLena's murder.
His mental health historyhomeless, living in his car,
heavy methamphetamine use,untreated schizophrenia were all
parts of the case, butcrucially, he was not found to
have been in a psychotic statethat would allow an insanity
defense.
In the courtroom, many family,friends, and community members
(06:58):
filled the galleries as mediacoverage made clear how this
case had shaken Auckland and NewZealand more broadly.
On the 4th of May 2023, Sharmawas sentenced in the Auckland
High Court, presided over byJustice Edwin Wiley.
He received a life sentence witha minimum non-parole period of
19 years and six months.
In addition, for the sexualviolation charge, he received
(07:20):
eleven years three months with amandatory non-parole period of
seven years four months, and forthe dangerous driving charge, a
further two months, all of theseto be served concurrently.
At sentencing, the judgedescribed the offending as
appalling, depraved, andsadistic.
From the family impactstatements, Lena's mother Sioux
said, No sentence is longenough, and no justice can
(07:43):
replace the life and love thatwas lost.
Lena's father asked, How longwas she conscious knowing she
would die?
The court acknowledged the highrisk Sharma posed, and that
release would only ever occur ifthe parole board deemed the
community safe, and even then,regretfully, part of the
discussion is overshadowed bythe sheer gravity of the
offense.
(08:03):
Justice Wiley noted the sentencehelps protect the public from
the risk you pose.
It's worth noting, a lifesentence in New Zealand does not
guarantee the offender willremain in prison for life, but
the non parole period is suchthat the practical possibility
of release is remote, especiallygiven the risk factors.
The case raised broaderquestions in New Zealand about
(08:24):
vulnerable adults, communitysafety, mental health,
homelessness, untreated illness,predatory sexual violence, and
how society protects those atrisk.
What we've covered so far arethe facts.
But this story is as much aboutpeople, community, and grief as
it is about crime.
Lena's life may have beenshorter than it should have
been, but it was full.
(08:45):
She fought early healthchallenges, embraced
independence, loved dancing,crafts, and community.
Her support worker recalled.
She was always very confident,nothing stopped her.
After her death, the walkwaywhere she was murdered became a
kind of memorial site.
Her mother visits often, walkingthe path Lena walked, bringing
remembrance.
(09:05):
What stands out is how thefamily have not only expressed
grief, but sought remembranceand healing.
For example, Lena's motherextended a message of
forgiveness.
Although your actions havebroken my heart, I too choose to
forgive you.
Forgiveness here does not meanforgetting or condoning.
It means choosing a path for theliving, for Lena's memory beyond
(09:26):
hate.
Also notable is the connectionbetween Lena's mother and the
jogging victim of Sharma'searlier attack, Tejalacharya.
The two women, though impacteddifferently, have formed a bond
through shared trauma andvulnerability.
The case stirred publicdiscourse, how society supports
vulnerable adults withdisabilities, how homelessness
coupled with untreated mentalillness can enable predation,
(09:49):
how women walking alone, even indaylight, remain vulnerable.
Detective Senior Sergeant JeffBaber remarked, Lena was a
fiercely independent anddetermined young woman whose
life was cut tragically short.
In short, the crime destroyedone life, devastated a family,
haunted a community, but Lena'slegacy also reminds us of the
(10:10):
value of each person,vulnerability turned into
independence and the importanceof community care and
protection.
Let's pause here for somereflections.
What can we learn from thistragic case?
Vulnerability and risk.
Lena's down syndrome, visualimpairment and health challenges
made her vulnerable, but she wasalso more than her
vulnerabilities.
Her independence mattered.
(10:32):
Society needs systems to protectvulnerable adults, but also to
empower them.
Predation and escalation.
Sharma's earlier incident to theattempted run over showed a
pattern.
The fact that the first incidentdid not intersect with a system
response strong enough toprevent the next day's tragedy
shows the gap between earlywarning and significant
violence.
(10:52):
Mental health, homelessness,addiction.
While none of these excuse thecrime, they are part of the
ecosystem.
Sharma had schizophrenia,substance use, homelessness
untreated service needs, gaps insocial supports.
The tragedy begs the question,would intervention earlier have
changed the path?
The defense indeed argued that acompulsory treatment order
(11:13):
should have been placed earlier.
Community and remembrance thewalkway where Lena died, the
tributes, the bonds formed inthe aftermath.
These are signs that while thecrime was singular, its impact
radiated.
Communities come together tomourn, remember, to ask
questions, to press for change.
Justice and Healing.
The sentence may satisfy legalaccountability, but does it
(11:34):
satisfy healing for Lena'sfamily?
Her mother's statementacknowledges that no sentence is
long enough, and no justice canreplace the life and love that
was lost.
The podcast asks What doesjustice look like when life is
removed so suddenly?
The value of each life.
Perhaps the clearest messageLena's life mattered.
(11:54):
The brevity of her life does notlessen its importance.
The story reminds us to payattention to those who live
quietly, independently,vulnerably, and to reinforce
that being on a walk should notmean being at risk of violence.
As we wrap up, I want to returnto Lena.
She walked because she could,because she chose to.
She danced, she crafted, shecontributed, she lived.
(12:16):
And though her life ended in theworst possible way, her memory
continues in her family's love,in community visits, in
conversations like this.
And to the system.
May this tragedy be a call toaction to ensure that homeless
people with mental illness aresupported, that vulnerable
adults have safe routes in theirdaily lives, that society
recognizes the signs ofescalation in predatory
(12:38):
violence, and that justicesystems remain mindful of the
humanity behind each case.
For our listeners, if this storyhas affected you, please
remember you're not alone.
Reach out for help if needed.
Support your loved ones, yourcommunity, and consider how you
might contribute to safety insimple ways.
Checking in with neighbors whowalk alone, advocating for
(12:59):
mental health and homelessnessservices, supporting
organizations for vulnerableadults.
Lena's story doesn't end in herdeath.
It continues in how we respond,remember, and act.
You know, I've done a lot ofepisodes for human wreckage, but
I have to be honest this one hasbeen one of the hardest.
Not just to research, not justto record, but to sit with.
(13:20):
Because what we've talked abouttoday isn't just a story.
It's a wound.
It's a reflection of how fragilewe really are, how easily things
can break, and how long it takesto put the pieces back together
if they ever truly fit again.
There's something about facingthe darkest parts of humanity
that leaves a mark.
Every time I dig into storieslike this, I'm reminded that
(13:41):
behind every headline, behindevery statistic, there's someone
who lived it.
Someone who loved, who hoped,who maybe never saw what was
coming.
And those stories, they don'tjust end when we stop recording.
They linger.
If you've made it this far,thank you for listening, for
caring, and for allowing spacefor conversations that aren't
easy to have.
Because that's what humanwreckage has always been about.
(14:03):
Finding meaning in the mess,empathy in the aftermath, and
maybe a bit of healing in thetelling.
If today's episode stirredsomething in you, take care of
yourself.
Reach out if you need to.
And remember, even in thewreckage, there's still humanity
sometimes cracked and scarred,but still there, still trying.
We'll be back soon with anotherstory one that might hurt, might
(14:24):
haunt, but hopefully helps usunderstand just a little more
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