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June 2, 2025 50 mins

Sharelle and Alexis discuss all the fashion and drama from Miami Swim week, Gabrielle Union’s one strike rule, & Vic Mensa opens up about his depression as a black man and much more!

08:48 - Miami Swim Week
16:35 - Cardi B & Stefon Diggs
23:21 - Gabrielle Union
30:55 - Vic Mensa on depression
44:30 - Humble Baddies Questions from Fans
47:49 - Humble Baddies Mail

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Like get in my way, never out of my name.

Speaker 2 (00:03):
It's been like you one in the more one, So
it is going to be squad.

Speaker 1 (00:08):
What's up? I ain't like booth? You ni road really round?
You need a skincare.

Speaker 2 (00:16):
I think at this point you just need.

Speaker 1 (00:20):
To come out with your own skink care.

Speaker 2 (00:21):
Long. You know, the glow is glowing, it's really water,
it's happiness. It's don't tell them, you know, I might
have to drop some you know, you don't have to
drop something.

Speaker 1 (00:33):
Sel How have you been? I have been?

Speaker 2 (00:36):
Do you hear my voice? It's kind of a little
it's a little off. I've been in the kitchen at
Smith and Webster on the weekends and I mean, I'm overwhelmed.
It's it's in such a great way from running the
line of being a prep cook as well as getting
to know everyone's energy, so it's becoming familiar to me

(00:59):
now and just being in the kitchen.

Speaker 1 (01:01):
I'm just feel by passion. So I'm just like living
it up.

Speaker 2 (01:04):
But I'm like yelling at the staff and like telling
the orders up. And it just was a long, long weekend.
We have dinner on Friday nights and Saturday nights and
then brunch. She's yeah, yeah, the brunches on Sundays and
it's a vibe too. So it's just been packed. It's
been overwhelming, but it's been great. At the same time.

(01:26):
I'm happy my mother and my aunt came by on
Friday night. It celebrated her eighty second birthday, so that
was fun.

Speaker 1 (01:36):
The fact that they got.

Speaker 2 (01:37):
To see me, and before she left to Saint Louis,
she got to see me in my element, so it
was a proud moment and full circle moment because now
I could like nourish them and give them food.

Speaker 1 (01:47):
So it's great, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:49):
And then my house is quiet, my children are away
for the summer, and I'm just like, don't know what
to do with this newfound peace. So I'm just low
key just enjoying that and adjusting to and happy and grateful.
So here I am.

Speaker 1 (02:05):
I know that's right.

Speaker 2 (02:06):
I just live in my best life, spirit free.

Speaker 1 (02:11):
You know, I've just been enjoying life.

Speaker 2 (02:15):
I'm traveling and you know, I'm about to get ready
getting my costume my outfit together for the Beyonce concert
and Harry when it's back here June te so I'm
actually gonna go.

Speaker 1 (02:28):
She's gonna perform.

Speaker 2 (02:29):
On June team and then you know, while I'm there,
I mean, go to the South France. You should, you know,
you should enjoy the beautiful life.

Speaker 1 (02:39):
You should.

Speaker 2 (02:40):
You know, this is the time to be traveling, you
know what I mean, like the summertime and very much.
I feel like Miami's kind of like it's not it's
not as busy as it is because everyone's done with
school and everyone leaves. Everyone is like, oh, we're in Italy,
We're in the South of France and all of that.

Speaker 1 (02:57):
So we definitely am I know, she's her second trip.

Speaker 2 (03:01):
You know, she just graduated college, so she's taking her
second trip alone with her friends. It's going to be
a graduation trip. So she's about eight. I'm like, now
it's the time to live. And then I have to,
you know, get her every We're gonna throw her trunk
party and send her off the college. So be excited,
be great for I was like, I'm big sis.

Speaker 1 (03:24):
Now. I was like, don't call me big sis. I
love that.

Speaker 2 (03:32):
I do want to mention, I do want to real quick,
I do want to mention. I was in the culinary
space the at Smith and Webstern. They do a great
job of incorporating the students of Job Corps and unfortunately
it was my last weekend with two young students whom
depended on this program that unfortunately had to dissipate due

(03:57):
to the new administration.

Speaker 1 (03:59):
There was no fun.

Speaker 2 (04:00):
So a lot of students that are you know, under
privileged and also wanted just to do it, you know,
have a path in a professional field, are now being
forced to leave. They don't know where to go. They
lived there, they were busted there, you know, just very
much given the opportunity, and so many professionals used job

(04:21):
for If they didn't have that, then they would have
been stuck in these impoverished communities and very much stuck
in the system. So I just want to send out
a shout out to the two students that were there.
I just wanted to wish you guys good luck. And
it's unfortunate that it's a lot of students, a lot
of kids between the ages sixteen and twenty four that

(04:41):
are now affected.

Speaker 1 (04:42):
So sucks. So I just wanted to give a shout
out and give them some some glory real quick. Oh
that was.

Speaker 2 (04:49):
Sweet, Like it does suck, you know, how they spend
their money and how they budget and how they just
cut everything that means something and like we put the
money towards irrelevant crap right now. It's but I do
have a program since we're talking about that, but my

(05:10):
have veterans. So with the Lord Realty, if you're a
veteran in you're stationed out of Florida, uh, they have
a program that's that's called a bridge program where basically
your transitioning it if you want to get into like
let's say real estate or be your own entrepreneur. I
have allowed veteran military personnels who are transitioning from the

(05:34):
military into civilian life to come shout on me.

Speaker 1 (05:38):
So I still have that program. No, I don't get
paid for it, but.

Speaker 2 (05:40):
It's a it's just something to give back to support
and help veterans because it's hard, you know, being in
the military and that's all you know and coming back
into to the civilian life, like it's hard to adapt
back into that so or even get into that civilian
life because like me, that's all I knew, you know,
I went from high school straight into the military world

(06:04):
and that's a lot depended on So I did start.
I signed to help military PERSONNELITI is transitioning from being
a soldier back into the civilian.

Speaker 1 (06:16):
That's all.

Speaker 2 (06:16):
If you're in the Bay Area, a little realty, welcome you.
I love and you know it's each one teach one
and it takes a village for sure. So yeah, yeah,
definitely does.

Speaker 1 (06:30):
Well, let's get into it. I'm glad everything's going good.

Speaker 2 (06:33):
When I'm in Miami, I have to come check you
out lets safety legs the only thing I with Smith.

Speaker 1 (06:39):
I remember, I used to.

Speaker 2 (06:40):
Go there a while back, and the grits they wasn't
like your regular Southern grits.

Speaker 1 (06:45):
They used they still use they used. They use a
Georgia the Great.

Speaker 2 (06:51):
And like it's it's it's been. It's been in that
pot for a couple of hours and it's just that
they're delicious. Wait, they much change it because they ain't
used to use the Southern grits no more. They I mean,
they used to use a different type of grip. It
wasn't like this this one. Yeah, this nice and creamy,

(07:13):
you know. Yeah, Okay to check it out there. All right,
since we're talking about it, let's get into swim week.
I was watching and the girls were killing it. The
recap of were they on Tin. The baddies were they
on tin? So did you check out any of the shows?
Let Unfortunately I was not. I was doing the runway

(07:36):
in the kitchen in the back of the Okay, okay, yeah,
because I did see a few highlights, you know.

Speaker 1 (07:44):
Other than that, I was watching and the girls were
certain things. I loved it.

Speaker 2 (07:49):
The some some of the girls needed some work on
they walk, but the bodies were on point. I'm like, oh,
you know, the I do follow up is a few
of the girlfriends that we follow, like shout out to
Bunny and Buddy listen. Yeah, yeah, you know what I mean.

(08:10):
That's why I got to see Swim Swim Week through
them too. Yeah, she shut it down. I was just
it was her. Her whole Instagram was a movie for me,
the whole week race because I was excited to see
all her looks, like she was serving the walks, was there,
her husband, Peaky Sweats was there supporting her.

Speaker 1 (08:29):
I was like, you are killing it. Yeah, shut up.
It's a big deal here in Miami.

Speaker 2 (08:34):
You know. I didn't know that until I ended up
going to support friends over the summer, but like, it's
a big deal, you know, we Miami's copping.

Speaker 1 (08:45):
It's always something going on in Miami.

Speaker 2 (08:47):
I know that there's different like fashion weeks around the
United States in different times, but swim Week in Miami
it's different. You have the beach, you know, it's usually
great weather, so it's like, you know, it's that last
little cuss of entertainment before everyone kind of starts to
relocate for the summer.

Speaker 1 (09:07):
So I love that. Yeah, shout out to.

Speaker 2 (09:09):
The biggest, Like my biggest highlight was Jordan. When Jordan
was walking the room for her swimsuit on, she did
a front flip and kept strolling. I was like, girl,
you better, you better, you better walk it.

Speaker 1 (09:24):
I think she could.

Speaker 2 (09:26):
The best walkway and she was the highlight over the
weekend of swum Week. So shout out to our girl
Jordan or the athlete into the whole fashion space. She
is our baddy of the week. I love that, you know,
as she should used to runway. We saw her on
the main stage of the USA well representing the USA

(09:51):
in the Olympics, and so we are just cheering for
her all the time, and she is a battie. I
love seeing the different speaking of that, I love seeing
the different standards of beauty and she's a shorter girl
being and very strong and just her thighs just beautiful
in her own way. And so like, I love the

(10:12):
fact that we can see a plethora of bodies your
body type, because yeah, it's fun.

Speaker 1 (10:17):
You know, we live in swimming suits out here.

Speaker 2 (10:19):
It's basically where our islands live, and everyone has a
swimming suit and everyone's confident from around the world.

Speaker 1 (10:25):
So I love that she did her front flip.

Speaker 2 (10:28):
I mean, we get to see her do it in
her element, and like she uped it a little bit
because not everybody could do that, you know, the.

Speaker 1 (10:35):
Straight line you have to you have to order to
smum week. I love it. I love it.

Speaker 2 (10:44):
Would you rather slay the wrong way or or not?
Would you like would you at today's age? Would you
give it a stroke?

Speaker 1 (10:53):
Yeah? Why not?

Speaker 2 (10:54):
I'm actually the most confident I've ever been in in
my life. I wish I tell my girl all the time,
embrace their bodies because you know, gravity takes over and
aged us too. But I would definitely represent for the
bodies of my my body type, and very much like Struck,
my stuff depends.

Speaker 1 (11:16):
On the type of swimming SUITO.

Speaker 2 (11:18):
You know, like when I when we're on the islands
and we're away, the thong will come out, you know
what I mean. But that's not for the runway. You
know what I'm saying, I no help that's gonna happen.

Speaker 1 (11:29):
I mean, if we all say, because you got that
body grown, not for the runway.

Speaker 2 (11:34):
But I definitely, you know, the beachway when it's like
the girls trip or you know, a couple just myself
and guide, then then that had happened, that'll come out.

Speaker 1 (11:45):
But other than that, I would probably do.

Speaker 2 (11:48):
Like a high wasted situation and and just shut my
stuff for sure. What about you, I definitely would you know,
I have a walk. The walk has always been there,
and I feel like you've got a walk. You give
me that walk. But I am stage right, and so

(12:10):
I don't know. I would have to drink. I am shy,
you like M real. I am safety, Like I'm really
shy in real life, like my god, with the cameras
and everything.

Speaker 1 (12:27):
If I can look past that, but people actually looking
at me and all eyes are on me, I do
not like that.

Speaker 2 (12:34):
Well, you could definitely shut the rung way, like come on, now,
I know you couldn't.

Speaker 1 (12:38):
I can get on a little saxy walk.

Speaker 2 (12:41):
Yeah, yeah, are you coming in a certain type of
swimming suit over another other?

Speaker 1 (12:48):
It's just whatever for you because.

Speaker 2 (12:51):
Like, yes, I have been working out, been get rid
being get rid of about that. But I hate my
tax So if I go back and to remove that,
I would, But yeah I would, I'll probably wrong both
either or Yeah. I guess the standard beauty is a
whole spectrum now, which I love, you know what I mean, tall, short, white, skinny,

(13:16):
you know, whatever the case may be.

Speaker 1 (13:19):
I'd love to see it so we can definitely get it.

Speaker 2 (13:22):
We got the energy, shout out to the shout out
to the ladies who was killing it during swim weeks.
Got we talking about bathing suits and audience not our
girl CARTI was showing out on the boat with Stephan
Big yes, yes, but it was a lot of going

(13:46):
back and forth between Stephan and Offset and Kurtie and
her soon to be ex husband too. It's just a
lot of feelings, a lot of emotions. And she was
wearing that swim and suit. Baby, she was definitely wearing
a swim suit. But it was a lot of controversy,
people talking, people were supporting her because allegedly she you know,

(14:09):
she came out and officially announced her as Stefan Diggs
by the post that they put on, and you know,
Offset and Stephan was throwing shots back and forth, subliminal
posts back and forth. My question is because I was looking.
I know people support, but I don't know. I just

(14:29):
feel different. I want better for Carti. Carti is a
mom now and I feel like, you know, she went
from one relationship to another, and step Under does not
have the best reputation when it comes to women, and
a lot of his exes and women that he dealt
with are saying, you know, you went from one dog

(14:50):
to another one, and maybe he's worse. So it's like
I've been different about it. One people can't help when
they meet each other. You know, I'm saying, I believe
in divine timy. I also believe in like following your
heart and just being happy. I don't we don't know
the law. I feel like we also put too much

(15:11):
pressure on everyone one with the soft lunch and now
that now we are expecting them to do X, Y
and Z and then or hard lunch or whatever.

Speaker 1 (15:19):
So it's like, I'm low key.

Speaker 2 (15:21):
You want to stay out of people's businesses because I'm
just like, look, uh, you.

Speaker 1 (15:25):
Know, it's too much.

Speaker 2 (15:26):
And one week they'll be this way and the next
week we don't know. And so it's just like it's
tough because when you're public figures, people want to spaylind Yeah,
they want to speculate, they want the best for you too,
and then they're going to also chime in on your relationship,
your status, who you with, and all that kind of stuff.

Speaker 1 (15:44):
So it's added pressure.

Speaker 2 (15:46):
So I think whatever is making her happy, get through
this time because divorce is not easy and now you're
you have children, you have businesses, things you've built together
as a marriage.

Speaker 1 (15:57):
But at the same time you've got to move on too,
you know.

Speaker 2 (16:00):
But I feel like that's the problem with us as
women we go through we always we're going too quickly.
Not saying that she did, but we think that, you know,
because you found somebody that temporarily makes you happy, you're
in a good place, but all you're doing is just
putting a band eight over the womb.

Speaker 1 (16:17):
You're being that cycle.

Speaker 2 (16:19):
I was in that, you know, space at one time,
and I had to learn like I can't continue to
depend on or find a man to continue to make
me happy. And you're going to the same cycle finding
that same type of man. It's like you just keep
on repeating the same steps over and over and over again. Yeah, yeah,
it's it's and it's very hard to transition to, Like

(16:40):
when you go from a breakup, like being with someone
for so long, learning them, understanding them, planning with them,
to a sudden breakup and now you're like trying to
figure out like assets and time and whatever the case
may be.

Speaker 1 (16:54):
It's definitely hard.

Speaker 2 (16:55):
It's traumatic, and you get triggered from anything like red
flags or some thing traumas and triggers that have happened
in that past relationship. You also don't want to bring
it into your new situation, your new friendship, or your
new partnership with someone. So it is definitely a healing space.
Marriage is one of the hardest things in the world
to do. And the fact that that they even tried

(17:16):
for love, you know it felt, which happens obviously all
the time.

Speaker 1 (17:21):
But the fact that she's.

Speaker 2 (17:22):
Willing to give up like give it again, like you know,
just really be a woman that wants to love and
be loved, and they having fun, you know what I mean, Like,
I guess what is it six months or something like
that that they've been together.

Speaker 1 (17:37):
Whatever it is, you're getting older. But that's the beautiful thing.
Is this too? Like I mean, I've been told no
one's gonna want me, you know, with.

Speaker 2 (17:47):
Four kids, and it's not even it's not even that,
it's just like where are your kids? And you know,
where are the There's just people are chiming in on
so much.

Speaker 1 (17:55):
What do you think?

Speaker 2 (17:55):
What do you say they shouldn't worry about. I'm sure
Cardi is a great mom. It's not it's it's not
that like where are your kids? It's more like heal
yourself first and then find someone that you can't keep
going repeating the same cycle. I mean, this man was
just on a boat with you and other women calling

(18:16):
him daddy.

Speaker 1 (18:18):
It's not a good look. I mean, it's not a
great look.

Speaker 2 (18:21):
But we also don't know their bedroom situation, what their
thing is, I mean obviously, like you know, I really don't,
you know, I don't. I hate That's one thing I
don't like to do is be in people's bedrooms with them,
so we don't know what their preferences are and what
they're into.

Speaker 1 (18:38):
But she's having fun and so is he. You know
what I mean. It's just it's summer, it's their lives and.

Speaker 2 (18:47):
I guess it's hot girls. So by any mean it's necessary.

Speaker 1 (18:51):
You're gonna do whatever.

Speaker 2 (18:52):
It takes to make it look And I agree, you
do need to heal from the first situation, and you know,
just before you get into anything else, because that's not
fair for the new partner. That's not you know, take
the time to build a friendship and really get to
know somebody and really know yourself too, because your morning
you are grieving, you are, you know, adjusting. And Party

(19:16):
is a Libra girl. She's a love of girl. Libras
are lovers. Yes, no matter how much we say, you know,
if this, I ain't trying to be in no more relationships,
no more.

Speaker 1 (19:26):
I'm done. We fall in love.

Speaker 2 (19:29):
We are not it to just be outside like that's
not the way down, Like we want to be locked
down in our whole mindset. We think that, oh we
can change somebody this that and the third Oh they're
gonna fall in love with me and you're gonna end
up getting your feelings hurt.

Speaker 1 (19:46):
We all been there.

Speaker 2 (19:47):
Yeah, I'm pre praying for a girl CARTI you know,
have your fun but don't don't lock it.

Speaker 1 (19:54):
It's like her.

Speaker 2 (19:55):
Do you think it's like a rebound? I think she
just going through her stage right now. I hope and
pray she's just going through her stages and it's nothing serious. Okay,
well that's that. But I'm happy that she's happy. But
I want party to find real true love. I just
wanted to be at peace and make some of her music.

(20:17):
Maybe this is inspiration our girl Gabriel Junion. She did
a podcast and she was basically saying that she has
a one strike rule, like now, at this age stage
of life, I don't have time for the bull crap
like you got one time to irritate me and you're blocked,

(20:40):
deleted and block.

Speaker 1 (20:41):
How do you feel about that? I agree with her
one hundred percent.

Speaker 2 (20:45):
I am learning the power of know what is worth
my time, what is not worth my time? Who values me?
And who really wants to to really who do I
want in my space? And to disturb this piece and
in a roundabout way, so yeah bye. If you're not
adding value and on this journey with me, then you

(21:07):
don't need to be here with me. One time is
enough if you are rude, if you are not irritable.
If you're just very much not for my growth, I
will one hundred percent not need to have that conversation
with you. It's sacred to be in your space, it's
sacred to be in your your just your life in general,
and not everybody's meant to be there in the long term.

(21:29):
So I'm okay with letting people go, whether that's family,
whether it's business, whether it's anything.

Speaker 1 (21:37):
I'm definitely one of those ones.

Speaker 2 (21:39):
I will give you if you're doing something very disrespectful,
then we just we have no ties. I actually just
don't have to see you. I don't want to be
in your presence. You're gonna see me, you know, in
the passing, but we don't have to be in that
be around each other in that capacity, and you don't
get this energy anymore. So I'm all for it, And yeah,

(22:00):
what about you, I kind of disagree because I mean,
sometimes we have bad moves and we're in we could
be thinking that, you know, any and everything irritates us.
So somebody can catch us on a bad day where
it's not even their fault and they're just they're just
irritating and we sometimes, you know, when we're in those

(22:21):
type moves. We take our stress and we don't even
look at it from it's just anything can aggravate them,
so I don't look at it like that. You have
to really have to do something to a point where
it's just it crosses one of my boundaries where it's like, Okay,
I'm going to cut you off. But I am always open,
no matter how old I am, to giving people a chance.

(22:41):
But there's boundaries that are set. She said, I'm at
an age where if you irritate me, she ain't playing
no games you like I mean. And time is precious
And you know again in your space, in your bubble,
who you allow on your home, who do you show
up for or who are you spending time with. Time

(23:02):
is valuable and we definitely take it for granted. And
I'm not you know, you show up for those who
show up for you. You're gonna pull up and you're gonna
be there for those people. We don't have time for
the people who want to see us feil and negative
and heavy energy doing for.

Speaker 1 (23:19):
Yeah, yes, it's yeah, before I could get ran over.

Speaker 2 (23:25):
You know people, people will take advantage of that kindness
and then they start planning your face and we don't
have time for that, no more, not at all.

Speaker 1 (23:34):
I do.

Speaker 2 (23:35):
I do have a little room for grace. But I
am all about protecting my peace. My piece is my
number one priority. So I mean for me, like I said,
it's it's boundaries. How many chances let should you give
someone before they're.

Speaker 1 (23:51):
Blocked for good?

Speaker 2 (23:55):
Blocked for good because you're not a blocked body, And
then I'm okay block them let me.

Speaker 1 (24:02):
I love to I love.

Speaker 2 (24:04):
I'm a little passive, petty. That's what as pisces are
where I'll meet you. That way, I don't have to
have like you know, I don't have to have deans
or alerts about you. But I want you to see
what's going on too over here. That shit don't stop.
So it might be me blocking you so we're not

(24:29):
having communication, but I definitely won't block you so you
can see what's going on over here because you know,
I just we have a good time. We're gonna keep
it moving and have some memories, and uh, you get
to miss out on it. So I'm kind of like
in that space of it. How many times it does
take a little bit for me, I'll just kind of

(24:50):
start backing off and leaning off of you, but you
would have to do something on my list of disrespect
for me to just be like, nah, this ain't worth it,
know what I mean? Because I love the fact that
you can hit a little button and make all that disappear.

Speaker 1 (25:06):
Gun. Yeah, because I'm petty. I hit them when you
know when the bubbles are typing?

Speaker 2 (25:14):
Block because what you're about to say, and that's our petty.
I get baby, you're not about to write me no
whole book and kind like you don't like the book.

Speaker 1 (25:28):
M m no.

Speaker 2 (25:30):
And then five minutes after you send what you said,
because it's not gonna come once I'm blocking and you
hit singing, you're gonna have to re send it. I'll
take I'll have mine in my notes and say everything
I need to say. Cuts you out unblocked, you send
it and block you back so you don't even that's
that's very toxic. You don't even want to hear what
they got to say? A word the last word? Okay?

(25:54):
Did I and I said that? And I'm standing on
business right block. That's the old sherill though I don't
have to deal with those issues anymore. Your filter is
better I have. It's not even going there right that's
the lesson learned.

Speaker 1 (26:13):
We're not We're not good.

Speaker 2 (26:15):
I like the growth. I actually love the growth. Charrell,
the growth has been amazing. Don't you send me glowing? Yeah,
we have to grow and we have to you know,
accept criticism and feedback. That way that gets us better,
you know, and so we we do better. We know better,
we do better. Yes, I slid over the glo I
had so much I had from my friends to my counterparts,

(26:38):
my business partist. We had talks and talks and I
was like, oh my goodness, I was. I'm glad y'all.
I'm glad y'all helped me accountable, like y'all come into
me and telling me how it was to get me back.

Speaker 1 (26:52):
Now, your girl is on a mission none stop.

Speaker 2 (26:55):
You know.

Speaker 1 (26:56):
That's what you're supposed to do, is to surround yourself
with the right people.

Speaker 2 (26:59):
You know, that's consistently because misery loves company. You know,
we've had this conversation to where they will definitely bring
you down if someone's down, someone is not in the
health space.

Speaker 1 (27:11):
Yeah, we don't have time for that.

Speaker 2 (27:13):
Yeah, that's why it's very important. That's why I'm saying
with current, it's very important. Because you being in toxic relationships,
you become such a different person. You miss out so
many opportunities. You you put your you don't even put
yourself first anymore. It's like you're not who you're, not

(27:34):
your real self, because yeah, it's it changes you exact arry.
So yeah, I just thank god, you know, I have
account of friends who are accountable partners that make sure
I'm good.

Speaker 1 (27:53):
That made good. All right, let's get into a mix
of is that how you say mensa? I believe so,
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (28:03):
Rock So he did a podcast with Jason Lee and
he spoke about a lot of things.

Speaker 1 (28:09):
What really, you know, caught my attention was.

Speaker 2 (28:14):
His depression as a black man, and not only as
a black man, as a child, like he at five
years old, he knew something wasn't right with him.

Speaker 1 (28:24):
That's an amazing awareness.

Speaker 2 (28:27):
He opened up about suicide, like he was having suicidal
thoughts at five years old, being a black man in America,
and how society worsen his mental health. We're going to
talk about the stigma around black man discussing mental health.
I think we spoke about this a few times before,
but it's it's very you know, I think we should

(28:50):
continue to speak on it and make it a safe space,
especially for our black man to open up and talk
about because they so much in I'm like, I'm always
to my boys, like talk to me, tell me what's
going on. It's okay to let it out, like cry
it out, It's okay to show emotions, it's okay to
open up.

Speaker 1 (29:11):
But he spoke, He basically.

Speaker 2 (29:14):
Spoke about his suicide of thoughts and you know, five
years old, about.

Speaker 1 (29:20):
To commit suicide at.

Speaker 2 (29:22):
Five, Like, how do you how do you know just
going through so much at five years old. Yeah, it's
it's a lot that we don't know that goes on
in these households. You know, there's a lot of depression,
it's a lot of undiagnosed people that are in your
household and in and out.

Speaker 1 (29:38):
There's a lot of heavy energy.

Speaker 2 (29:40):
There's a poverty, there is no food, there's an abuse,
there's so many things you can name. And I just
want to give a shout out to It's actually June
is Men's Mental Health Awareness Month, so we're actually this
is great time and that we're speaking on this. But
the fact that these men are being vulnerable and breaking

(30:02):
the cycle and the generational curses, especially in our communities.

Speaker 1 (30:08):
Of speaking out and.

Speaker 2 (30:09):
Being very honest about it, to me is very masculine.
It's very sexy that people are saying, you know what,
this is who I am, this is how I felt,
and I want to fix it, and then speaking on
it so you can help others. It's really each one
teach one, and the fact that these men can be
vulnerable enough to express their feelings and communicate really does

(30:30):
help us as a community, as in marriages, as partnerships,
in business, and really rearing our next generations of youth.
To see your parents go to therapy, to see your
parents speak talk about things, to see everyone in your
household be open about their dialogue of just what's going
on in their minds and their hearts and their brains.

(30:52):
There's a lot of energy around us. There's pressure at school,
there's pressure on the fields and on the basketball courts.
It's pressure to maintains paying certain lifestyle and keep up
with the joneses and all these things. So the fact
that we are breaking even we're just more aware. You know,
our generation is very open minded to learning, and we

(31:13):
are affording therapy and we're also knowing how to write it.
Off for you know, all these things right whereas now
our children are just very much more open to talk
about it.

Speaker 1 (31:23):
They're really ahead.

Speaker 2 (31:24):
Of us in a beautiful way with technology and things
that they have because they can hit AI and be
private and say, hey, I'm feeling like this, you know
what I mean, or try GPT and be like I'm
feeling like this. What are some symptoms or what is
this going on? And their friends are talking about it
more and more and more. So I just feel like
the stigma is changing. People are getting more open about

(31:47):
being vocal and really seeking help. So I just think
it takes a community of our strong Black men and
US women to uplift them and also encourage them because
we need that. We need to have that conversation, in
that dialogue. That way it's okay, Like it's okay. You
have to exercise your brain, just like you exercise your body.

(32:10):
You know, you have to exercise your heart, and we
have to take care of our bodies. That's how you
stay mindful and stay resilient in this world. Because it's heavy,
it's hard, it's war, it's losing jobs, it's so much
going on, and this is stuff that has happened over
the decades and over the generations, regardless of how you

(32:32):
were raised. So shout out to him for saying, you know,
really recognizing it. And that's a sad place to be
at five.

Speaker 1 (32:38):
That's kindergarten. That's a precious age where you like, I
just don't want to go on. You know it's anything
like you're how sad?

Speaker 2 (32:47):
Yeah, no, it's heavy, but you know, fast forward to
where he is now, to where he has a platform
where he's like, look, these are the options, these are
the ways I did it. This happened to me, and
let it not happen to you, or this is very

(33:08):
much relatable because I feel like over time we were
just embarrassed or we were.

Speaker 1 (33:12):
Lied about it or not us or what.

Speaker 2 (33:15):
Stays happens in this house stays in this house was
like embedded in us, and unfortunately it made us like
very much shell shocked and very much like you.

Speaker 1 (33:25):
Know, closed in.

Speaker 2 (33:28):
And so now now it's it's better to talk about
things like this is very therapeutic for me to have
my girl time to talk about how I feel and
really to help others and inspire others to like be
open to like dialogue about all issues. So I think
it's definitely necessary in our community and should be talked

(33:49):
about more.

Speaker 1 (33:51):
Definitely.

Speaker 2 (33:51):
Do you feel like black men get the safe space
they deserve. If not, who's responsible for creating that?

Speaker 1 (33:59):
I mean, I mean.

Speaker 2 (34:02):
I do feel like, you know, black men do deserve this,
but all men do. We you know, men have a
lot of pressure being the head of the household and
being the provider as well as the protector and have
to have this hard like always aware like I'm gonna,
you know, be the lion. You know, I'm going to

(34:23):
protect my household. So yes, it's hard, and it's all men. Yeah, yeah,
And you can't be weak. You can't cry, you can't
you know, you have to be this tough shell. And
at the end of the day, it's a partnership when
you're raising children, when you're raising you know, just having
a partner, if you have children or not, we both

(34:45):
need that masculine and that feminine energy to connect and
really build and grow and be vulnerable as partners, you know,
whatever your situation is.

Speaker 1 (34:54):
So men are needed to be in that leadership role.

Speaker 2 (34:57):
And it's very much it's hard because because you know,
I always think back to just like the lineage of
like how we got here in the first place with slavery,
and how people on your level you would look up
to and very much the strength of you know, sold
off being bigger and stronger and and and split up
from your families and then turn around and then you know,

(35:22):
the slave owners are using your own What once was
like a brother to you is now reprimanding you, beating
you and turning on you.

Speaker 1 (35:31):
You know that used to be a colleague.

Speaker 2 (35:33):
So you look at that where it's just like over
the time men and they're in our in they're in
the prison systems that it's hard for them to you know,
seek employment.

Speaker 1 (35:44):
They just have been just beaten for like really low
key centuries.

Speaker 2 (35:48):
And women we were definitely in the home, you know,
caretaking and being maternal and being much nurses and your
obgyns in the day. So it's just like we as
a community and a whole have to recognize our power.
You know, I say this over and over again because

(36:10):
we are a very smart group of individuals that are
very talented, that have the same opportunities, and we still
do not get the reparations reparations needed and necessary for
us to even you know, to keep growing. So we
just have to keep going back to our communities, giving
back to our communities, and reaching out to our youth

(36:30):
because they need us the most.

Speaker 1 (36:32):
And so we can.

Speaker 2 (36:33):
Keep that cycle going of growth instead of just that
heaviness that's been penned on us being in the United States.
And I feel like the more we speak on it,
the more we talk about it, the more we have
role models of men who open up about it, the
more it's going to be.

Speaker 1 (36:51):
Okay to speak on to talk about.

Speaker 2 (36:53):
So yeah, shut out the guys who are opening up
talking about their trauma and saying that it's okay to
release it.

Speaker 1 (37:00):
It's okay to talk about it.

Speaker 2 (37:02):
And not only is it mental health awareness, is it's
also PTSD. So everyone who's going through PTSD, you know,
I am a I suffer from PTSD and it's not easy.
So if it is the awareness, I keep on getting
alerts on my phone. But make sure if you're going

(37:22):
through something that you seek some type of therapy, some
type of counseling, talk to someone's job, to someone. Don't
just shut down because when you shut down, you you
can you don't know what can happen. You deal with
so much and we don't want anything bad to happen.
So make sure if you're going through something, you have
a bad soime, just reach out to somebody, get out

(37:44):
and do something positive. Yes, whether it's a mentor whether
it's a superior, a brother, he's someone that you can
trust that It really is like, look this this worked
for me. I feel like honesty is the best policy
just because when someone sees that they're vulnerable and like
open and honest about a certain situation, then that does

(38:05):
open up the floodgates and more to be more open
about it.

Speaker 1 (38:08):
So it's about having a good support group too, of.

Speaker 2 (38:13):
Individuals that will help elevate you, not like you know,
bring you down, but well like give you good sound
advice so you can make the right decisions.

Speaker 1 (38:22):
And it took me a minute to go through therapy.

Speaker 2 (38:25):
To go through it, I mean I remember when you
know my daughter, I think I told the story before
my daughter. It took my daughter to tell me, Mom,
you changed for me to go seek help because she's like,
you're not the same mom that you worked before. And
I had it was probably like six months after I
came back from Afghanistan, and I was like my child sees,

(38:45):
you know, see something different, but I was still I
was still going through it with my therapist, so I
would be you don't know what they if I've been through,
Like why am I talking to you?

Speaker 1 (38:57):
Like all you gonna do is just give me medicine.
I don't want that. Like you can't saw them. You
haven't experienced what I like.

Speaker 2 (39:03):
I had a wall built up even with my therapist
for so long. I went, I pulled out, waited a year,
went again, and I kept going until you know, I
got it right and I did some intense therapy to
help me, you know, get through things that I went
through during my whole time in the military. So it

(39:24):
was a great experience and I still you know, I
learned coping skills when I went through therapy. I still
utilize them. I still talk to my therapist till this day.
So it's it's great. It's great to seek KEMP and
get help. And if if you feel embarrassed too or
just not ready for you can they also have now

(39:46):
where you can chat with someone one on one on
your phone. You know, these these tele visits are very
popular and very much at hand, so you can start
there too. Yes, all right, now it's time to get
into our questions from our humble buddy fans.

Speaker 1 (40:04):
We don't have many that came in today.

Speaker 2 (40:06):
Only two came in, well, three came in, but we
answered the first one, would we ever do Miami Swim Week?
And if so, what swimsuit when we rock? I think
we both answered that. The next one, what's something Patty
someone did to you that made you instantly block them?
Oh hm? I think for me, it's always just comments

(40:29):
on Instagram. Like you know, Instagram is there for entertainment purposes.

Speaker 1 (40:34):
It's a double aired sword for me. So I'll blocked.

Speaker 2 (40:39):
Somebody in a minute if they say something out of line.
I'm just like blocked. I don't have time for this
block Like you know, you know me, I don't. It
tasts a lot for me to engage if you being disrespectful,
But like I understand that you're behind a phone. You
could be a fan or a hater, and I'm not
gonna let that ruin. Like my moment, I'm on the ram,

(41:00):
either promoting something or just being my free self and
just expressing myself creatively.

Speaker 1 (41:07):
I don't need that negativity.

Speaker 2 (41:08):
I'm just like whatever, and I don't really like low key,
don't even read the other comments either of just like
it's something that if I happen to be seeing it,
I'm just like what that just block? So maybe that's
petty or not. I don't know, but I'm protecting my piece.
So it's definitely like easy block this finger strong.

Speaker 1 (41:31):
Listen.

Speaker 2 (41:32):
You know, I like to have the last words. So
before I block, you know, I wait to leave the
stinger in. Let it marr I wait three minutes, let
it maritate a little bit, go back. What because that's
what's the bettiest thing for you. Will it be something
that said or just like yeah, probably something that's saying

(41:55):
on social media.

Speaker 1 (41:57):
I just I think, but I got to stay back sometime.
I have my clap back.

Speaker 2 (42:02):
Let it marinate a little bit, and then block, because
we're not about to have it. Uh, you gotta let
him know at on social media, we're not doing that,
but you are to hear what.

Speaker 1 (42:12):
I have to say.

Speaker 2 (42:17):
I just before were going to the Humble Babies math,
I just got a text from my my girl Kennedy
all my stink State. She's my bonus Shower's chat's daughter
who turned ten. She said, Charrel, you take me to
Tampa this Saturday. Oh no, want to get away. Shout
out to Today's her birthday, so shout out to my girl.

(42:38):
She just turned ten, Happy birthday. She want to get away,
she said, huh, She's like, what does she called?

Speaker 1 (42:47):
What do they call? What do they call?

Speaker 2 (42:48):
You? Like?

Speaker 1 (42:49):
Bone? Like, what do they say? You know? She just.

Speaker 2 (42:53):
No, don't. I don't allow. They have a great mother.
Just sure they very respect that. You know that I
still respectful and everything. She's like, Sharille, can you take
me to Tampa day Saturday?

Speaker 1 (43:05):
Yeah? She want the tour, she want the full everything.
I love it. That's my girl. But so happy birthday, Kennedy,
We love you. Happy birthday.

Speaker 2 (43:19):
Let's get into this humble baddy mail. Yeah, yes, all right,
here we go. I gave her everything and she still
left me. Hey, humble baddies, I really need y'all advice

(43:40):
because I feel like my whole world just crashed. I've
been with my girl for six years. I helped her
through nursing school, paid some of her tuition, got her
first car in my name, and even helped take care
of her mom when she was sick.

Speaker 1 (43:54):
I did everything a man was supposed to do. She
told me she loved me every day.

Speaker 2 (44:00):
But at the moment she graduated, got her career and
started making money, she switched up. She started talking about
finding herself, needing space, and wanting to experience life. Three
months later, she's posting trips to loan with some dude
that owns a gym.

Speaker 1 (44:16):
It's like everything we built meant nothing.

Speaker 2 (44:18):
The part that hurts the most she told me I
was too good and she just needed someone with some edge.

Speaker 1 (44:26):
Like, what does that even mean?

Speaker 2 (44:28):
I love her purely, I was loyal, I sacrificed, and
now I'm sitting here trying to pick up the pieces
while she's outliving her best life.

Speaker 1 (44:36):
Like I never existed, Ladies, I need to know.

Speaker 2 (44:41):
Is it true that some women only stick around until
they level up and then leave the man who helped
them get there? Was I just a stepping stone? Should
I ever trust another woman again?

Speaker 1 (44:51):
Signed?

Speaker 2 (44:52):
Heartbroken and used. Damn, that's sad. I feel bad for him.
That's sad. It shows like she was never She was
only there for you, for your benefits. From the size
that from what he's saying, it's like you did everything
for this woman and she basically took advantage of me.

Speaker 1 (45:13):
She had an end goal.

Speaker 2 (45:16):
Yeah, I honestly, don't think he shouldn't judge every woman
off of, you know, the decisions that she made, because
every person is not like that. It sucks because she
has ruined it for a lot of women, But I
wouldn't judge other women based off her actions.

Speaker 1 (45:37):
That's so sad. I feel bad for him.

Speaker 2 (45:39):
I agree with you, Cherrelle like I wouldn't let it
hinder my dating experience going forward.

Speaker 1 (45:46):
It does hurt, It is hurtfull, and that lets.

Speaker 2 (45:49):
You know in the long run, she was not for you.
We see it time and time again where one partner
has that gross and the other one isn't there for that,
you know, and they just you end up splitting up.
But she showed her true colors, and that's realistically what
people should be praying for, Like reveal yourself to me,

(46:10):
be yourself to me, so now I know how to
move accordingly. So use it as a blessing in disguise.
It definitely is hurtful because you love, you invested in
this person. You were investing in there there you saw
the potential in them as a potential partner and saw
that growth in them. But it's time for you to
focus on yourself. Now you know what you're capable of.

(46:31):
I always try to use a past experience to understand
who I am, where my heart lies, because I don't
let people hard in my heart, I still trust, I
still give loyalty, I still am going to be that lover.
I'm still be a Lexis. And so I'm like, look,
the next person is gonna get even more, even more
because it's just like I'm growing and I'm learning about

(46:52):
you know, who I am and what I tolerate, my
boundaries and everything, and what I want to give to
the next person, and so like this won't let me
take me realizing that I'm not internalizing it, that these
things happen for me and not to me. It's a
big difference. And so it's like I'm not using what
these people. I always say the girlfriend told me that,
she said, you got to let people land, and so

(47:14):
let's show.

Speaker 1 (47:14):
You who they are, Like that's all you need for them.

Speaker 2 (47:18):
We do a horrible job as humans to like try
to fix and you know, like oversee things because we're
we love.

Speaker 1 (47:26):
You know, we're supposed to love.

Speaker 2 (47:27):
But at the same time, we're not supposed to be
in pain either, and love it does not supposed to
even like he was to get put in everything in,
putting it all in and not reciprocated, separcate anything towards something.
And that's a sign when you're doing everything and trying
to win that person over, you're doing too much. That
person is not for you, and that's when you need

(47:48):
to take a step that and it's said, it's good
people out there and you and you get into these
relationships and they just take advantage of it like it
is herful and then it does spill over, you know,
like accidentally into the next situation because you know it's
you're triggered in your little cover, you're like you're just
a little more tense and you're just like you know

(48:10):
it is it's hard. But with to me, communication and
transparency and being vulnerable and letting that next person know like, look,
this happened to me, and I'm doing I'm trying to
do better, you know, so let me know if I'm
a little if I feel a little triggered or traumatized
from this situation because it's painful, you know, Like that's
so that's money, that's it's time, it's it's investing in everything.

Speaker 1 (48:34):
But that lets you know that if she's doing this now,
she would have done it, you know ahead. But y'all
had y'all time together and use it for what that is.

Speaker 2 (48:44):
Understand that I mean my money back girl, because you
live a life.

Speaker 1 (48:50):
Believe in karma though, like he, his start was there
to give.

Speaker 2 (48:53):
You know, you're supposed to get from your heart, you
know what I mean, and not expect anything in return.
So he blessed her and let it be that he's
gonna be less. She's gonna get it with her so
called new love life exactly exactly because you're gonna you
lose them.

Speaker 1 (49:08):
How you get him? Baby? All right? Yep? So heartbroken
in us, We wish you nothing but the best.

Speaker 2 (49:15):
We call you know someone that can reciprocate what you're
doing in that relationship and appreciate you exactly.

Speaker 1 (49:25):
Ye are you guys? That is it for Humble Baddies.

Speaker 2 (49:29):
If you guys need any inquiries, any questions, anything, y'all
can hit us at contact at humblebatties dot com. Make
sure you subscribe to our podcasts on YouTube. Also follow
us on Instagram at humble Batties podcast. I am sure
a resulting. You can find me at Sharer result of
Underscore and I'm Alexis Welsh Stamarr. You can find me

(49:51):
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Speaker 1 (49:54):
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