May 29, 2025 • 28 mins
Sharelle, Alexis & Ashley react to President Donald Trump pardoning reality stars Todd and Julie Chrisley, Grammy-winning R&B artist Muni Long recently opening up about why she believes some Black women don’t resonate with her personality, and much more!
01:38 - Introduction
08:00 - Trump Pardons The Chrisleys
19:45 - Muni Long talk perception
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Get in my way, never out of my name's been
like you one and the more one. So what is
going to be? What's that? Hey, y'all?
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Someday everyone, I miss y'all.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
Miss y'all too. I missed my humble baddy. We was
out for Memorial.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
First, we want to thank everyone who served. Memorial is
about the veterans who lost their lives serving, So shout
out to you know, the families that have supported and
the ones that gained their life and lost their life
to support us. So happy with your dance the ones
that lost their lives. How have y'all been? Did y'all
(00:45):
eat some good food for Memorial of the weekend?
Speaker 1 (00:47):
Oh my god, no, because you're supposed to be here
grilling for me.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
I can't grill, that's my daidy job. I had some
spelled out, some good, some good, soulful. We had some yams, greens,
macaroni and cheese. So you threw down, getting down nothing.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
Invite, it was going down. We're celebrating over here. I've been.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
I've been working in the restaurant all weekend. It's so
it's so hard. Alrighty, how is that going? So it's
been an adjustment because I'm standing up for hours on
hours during the day and so like.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
It's active if they do there like check you out
there Friday, Saturdays and Sundays.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
I know. Yeah, so I'm there Friday night. You said, yeah,
so everyone come through. I'm in the kitchen. I come on,
I speak to where they're gonna go. Lext you tell
the people where they're gonna go, Smith and Webster, North Beach,
So I will see y'all. I will be in the
bad come through. It's good food and I'm getting to
(02:03):
know everybody. So this is like a new experience for me,
like all the cooks that are there before. There's a
couple of other interns that are working, and just like
the executive chefs, and everyone's been welcoming. So I was
like nervous because you know, from television shows and all
of that, what we see, you know, very intense. But
i just jumped right in and just feel familiar and
(02:25):
I'm just very passionate about the first thing that you
cooked you were back there, it was a peach cobbler waffle.
So the first waffle, No, not right now, but like
we need some waffles.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
Yeah, they have a menu.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
They have about like about fifteen things on the menu.
So it was like intense and it was pretty cool
those and I survived and I'm here and then like
all my babies are home. Just Elijah's the last one
in school, so everyone is just wrapping up.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
Empty nesters soon.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
Yeah, it's quiet. They're with their father, the perks of
co parenting. So I'm technically already ready vacationing. So okay, nulation,
thank you, thank you?
Speaker 1 (03:18):
Huh? I said, what about you all? That was your weekend?
My weekend was good? What'd I do? Oh?
Speaker 2 (03:25):
I got my chicken coop finally yeen the delivery.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
My chickens got a nice new, beautiful home.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
Oh wow. And so now I'm trying to teach them
how to go in the henhouse at night.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
I'd be talking. I feel like you, this ain't the
life you imagine, did it like you?
Speaker 2 (03:43):
Ain't think you feel you just I love chickens.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
Don't feel for film. We feel bad.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
I been making him do all kinds of stuff, and
now I'm trying to get him to build me all
kind of stuff.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
Yeah, it's an adventure every day. Actually, y'all just let
me know when the egg is.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
Drop another about a month with the half a little
while before they start laying eggs.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
But I'm gonna let you out them, please, man, I
want to be the first.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
One that I want to test them out because I
ain't never had no real you know, organic natural. You
can keep the room temperature too, Yeah, no, they are.
They last like a long time too. All the eggs
you get in the grocery store are old. Yeah, eggs
for like thirty forty days, sixty days if you don't
(04:34):
wash them off.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
Are they gonna be different color eggs? Yes? Girl, I
kidnock like.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
I have five different breeds of chickens, so I have
all different Yay, you.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
Got to get them shots and stuff. Yeah, I did.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
And then I gave them like medicated feet while they
were young to keep them nice and healthy.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
So we're doing all the well.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
We ain't got nothing to worry about over there. Then
up to Miss Real, I was there Charlotte for the weekend.
I went to go visit my best friend and check
on you know, I have a brokerage up there as well.
And I didn't cook, but I the day before Memorial
(05:16):
Day Sunday, I went to kitchen, kitchen and cocktail. Oh
my goodness, what's that. It's a restaurant. The food was amazing.
If y'all ever in Chao, I know they have a
few areas. I think it's one in d C. Somewhere
in Texas, and the one in Charlotte. That's the only
one I really been to. When I tell you, it's
(05:38):
a nice so soulfuld like luxury restaurant.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
Everything is on point.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
Everything the colon greens, the macaroni cheese, the canams, the black.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
Eyed peas, the corn bread.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
Everything, Like I literally order everything when I get there.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
So I was being, you know, big back this weekend.
We should we have to treat it.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
You know, I got my little break because the kids
started school, so I want my low vacation tip.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
Good for you, ok, nice, nice? Well yeah, it was
a good weekend.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
We needed that that little breaks to jump start into summer.
So like that is like the it's shifting from finishing
up all these school events and to now prepping for
the summer where the kid's gonna go internships, camps, all
these things, vacations.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
Everything.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
Yeah, yeah, nice break. Let's get into it, you guys.
Let's today We're gonna talk about some everybody, the everybody
been going in on Donald Trump, but then they started
saying more people than he has had been parted, he pardoned.
So former President Trump has issued a full part in
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to reality TV couple Todd and Julie Chris Christly. Chrisly's
no those best who are previously convicted of the fraud
and banks for more than thirty million and committing tax evasions.
The controversial decision has sparked outrage and reignited conversations about
(07:14):
privileged justice and celebrity favoritism in politics. Yeah, I mean,
it do seem like if you a little popular, you
know what I'm saying, you need a you know, he's
I feel like he feeds off of popularity. Like he's
the reason why he's in office, the reason why he's
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so popular now, Like he won the popular vote. Like
I feel like it really is almost a popularity contest
for him. So while he's in office, he's still doing
the popular thing and getting you know, pardoning popular people
to keep the people happy, you know, keep the majority
on his side, because a lot of people, you know,
every now and then we start being like, damn, we
(07:56):
voted this man in.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
Look what he's doing.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
But then he'll go in party, and you know, these
popular people, a lot of people in pop culture that
people are very familiar with in their every day you know,
lives and world, and it kind of is like, oh, well,
that's cool. You know a lot of people aren't super political,
so once they see like a pop star or a
reality TV start getting pardoned, you know, I feel like
(08:20):
it keeps.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
Him relevant relevant.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
Yeah, I agree with one hundred people, one hundred percent,
would you, Ashley? He is about the culture of being
the most famous, the most popular, the most liked, making
America great in so many capacities.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
But he understands.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
One thing he does understand is the fact of the
popular vote, the fact that you have the different demographics
of whoever you following. Because I don't I agree with
you what it's that it's popular people, people weird that
are famous. But then there was also like I guess
you know, he's he's part of other people to the
point where it's like, Okay, if this person is stands
(09:01):
for something, I'm going to be the one that's going
to be the culture shifter. Just so you can, my
name is attached to it, so I'm going to get
the credit for it. And so he's very much like
consistent with the fact that he wants that limelight, and
he's shifting that energy to like, let me be the
one because I do eventually have the authority, which we
see that he does.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
It's showing his power, you know, like you know, literally.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
His signature is part of the people, and so his
favoritism in a lot of ways. But at the same time,
it's almost erasing the smear of the other bad things
that we think about him. Insact, somebody was saying that
people was paying him work for them to get part
of him. But here's here's a list of who he recently,
(09:47):
who he saw on today. John g Rowland, former Government
of Connecticut, Kent Trell, Galdon, NBA Young Boy, Michael Graham,
former New York rap Kevin and based in marxy Ba Shaw,
Chid and Julie Tanner Mansell and John Wore, Michael Harris,
(10:11):
and Larry Hoover. When you look at some of these
crimes that they have committed, it's like, yeah, well, and
then I guess it goes both ways, because it's like, Okay,
you're pardoning some of these people who committed crimes that
should be you know, paying the price for what they've done, right,
(10:32):
But it seems like, you know, he'll pardon some people,
but then like the people that don't necessarily would have
voted for him, they'll he's letting those people go too,
to keep you know, to keep things in balance almost
you know.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
What I mean, Like when he pardoned.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
Kodak or helped him get out, you know what I mean,
like just finding ways to like stay popular, but still
like keeping his aggen like how he pardoned the the Yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
But then you know he's teaming up with Kanye Like
it's like he does things like that show you aspiring
people he was. You know, he is pop culture himself.
He is mentioned on the barts like the Simpsons, you
know what I mean, Like he is been been mimicked
many times on Saturday Night Live.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
So he is pop culture.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
You know our question I think this is there, like
that he's doing this, like how do I feel about it?
I mean, this is this is letting it's putting a
spotlight on being a president of the free United States
of America. So at the end of the day, he's
showing his power of what he can do. And that's
why it's important to vote, because the powers is literally
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in the pen in the signature, and he's showing that.
And I mean, look at Joe Biden. Right before he
left office, he pardoned his son. So it's the power
of the presidency. So whoever gets that seat, that's why
it's very important who you're voting for. And honestly, Donald Trump,
at President Trump rop he has everything he said, he's
(12:17):
been he's gonna do, he's been doing. Now that's one
thing that's something I can say. So here we are, you.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
Know, so I definitely don't think it's there.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
When you look at some of the crimes and then
like the Christlies, look how much money they frauded the
government and they all have they like it's basically raced now.
But you have other people serving time, you know, serving
time that did less, that didn't do as much, and
you know they're still sitting in prince It's like it
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does show like it's favoritism or if you have a
big name, you know we're gonna make sure you're taken
care of. It's the system is just it's not right, suaw.
So remember this is the same man who took out
an ad for the the Central part five back in
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the day. This is the same person, and I feel
like he's showing his same power. It's just, you know,
he's the president now, he's doing everything he's saying that, like,
for example, white South Africans are being you know, mauled
and wiped away, so he brought them over here and
(13:38):
the president was sitting next to him in the meeting.
You know, it's just it's it's a lot, it's all
over the place. It's politics. But let's you know again,
I keep saying this, the power of the presidency, it's
a it's a major thing.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
Yeah, yeah, I know. President Obama would have never been
able to get away with this. No, no, they could
have President Obama. L Larry, Oh, they would ahead President
(14:16):
Obama talking so much what I think, I'm big beach.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
So you think that people will go back and watch
the Chris Lies when you think they have a TV
show coming out, you think they're gonna they gotta come back.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
Might be producing it. We don't even know anymore, Like
it just might be part of it.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
Their daughter is very vocal, like she had her hat on,
she made I think she low key made the announcement,
like look, I think she even sat down with her
was some kind of way was connected to Donald Trump
to be able to make this happen. So of course
gotta be. They gotta be mag of people. I'm sure
they've been doing this for years. This is all about
the dollar. It's all about television. It's all about popularity.
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It's all about you know, the different culture of reality TV.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
Mean, here we go just just shows what's going on?
You know who had me? Who pissed off at Donald Trump?
Right now?
Speaker 2 (15:13):
Because his name went on that list? What's the one
that was popular doing during during the pandemic? It was, uh,
he had the Tigers or.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
Tiger King.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
Yes he is Joe right, it's going on a rampage
right now because his name is not on that list.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
He like, how are you getting rid of letting all
these people going? I ain't do nothing? Goodness? I love
that show.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
That was great, Actually was it was a great docu series.
He was very entertaining. I wonder what happened to the
cat Lady. The cat you know the cat Lady is
outside of Tampa. Yeah, I thought she had to like
going to hire and basically because everybody thought she for
real killed her husband. I don't know from and see
(16:08):
real I ain't gonna come up missing. I love my
life too much at the zoo. From the documentary, it
was suspect she did it. The math wasn't mathew, she
did it. She let them them tigers eat her husband up.
That's crazy that that did happen in COVID. That was
(16:28):
pure entertainment. By the way, they had to send a
choke hold. I know I watched that and amongst other things,
but it definitely was something to talk about. I was
focused now, almost blocked, and it was yeah, all right,
let's get into it. Money Loan is catching backlash. Is
(16:51):
she misunderstood or missed the miss a line? Grammy winning
r and b artists, am I saying her name right?
Money or mooney?
Speaker 1 (17:00):
Money?
Speaker 2 (17:00):
Loan brastly open up about why she believes some black
women don't resonate with her personality. Her comments have triggered
social media debates about perception, likability, and often unspoken dynamics
between black female celebrities and their audience. This conversation opens
the door to deeper dialogue around I hate this authenticity
(17:25):
perversation and while being unapologetically you still gets criticized even
in twenty twenty five, So did y'all hear when money loan.
She was like, basically, you know, black women don't resonate
with her.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
Yeah, but what is she talking about?
Speaker 2 (17:44):
Because we are her audience and I agree, we're the
one singing her songs and doing the tiktoks and all
of that.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
What is she talking about? I agree?
Speaker 2 (17:54):
And it's like everybody is going to get criticized booboo KITTI,
Like you are a public figure and everybody knows, like
the haters are always the loudest anyway, Like we know
that you know, and you've been in the business for
how long now? Yes to where she's not some pr
training and she should take it with the grain of salt.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
I mean, you know, and be.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
Open to criticism. It doesn't mean you have to accept
what they say. People are gonna talk. You are a figure,
you can sing your ass off, you're amazing, You're very talented.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
But people are gonna speak how they feel. Doesn't mean
that they.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
You can't justify and just say all black women don't
resonate with you, right, that's not the big number. And
you guys said the best, like we are, we do
listen to her. It's definitely our demographic but she did
say like her what did she say, Like her biggest
fans are from Brazil and the Philippines, which to me,
(18:57):
you gotta stop. Like, at the end of the day,
Brazil has is it has the most black people. So
I don't know where she got her information from, but
you know, I think it was just a mistake and hopefully,
you know, we can move past this and were forgiving
as we do, but you know, let's let's make some good.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
I think she should.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
Probably take it up with her pr people, her branding people.
If she feels like she's not resignating in the way
that she wants to. If she's not, if her image
isn't aligning with whatever she you know, feels it is
true to herself, then maybe she needs to like, you know,
go back and read right, Like yeah, like she needs
(19:44):
to go back with her people and have a conversation
because maybe like maybe we aren't resonating with her the
way you know, she would like.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
But that's not you know, I don't feel like.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
She should come on you know, social media and be
talking my aunties and aunties and so Bymla's is whatever
she can't she can't crucify every black woman just because
she has a few women have said certain things and
you just only reading you know, black women comments, and
(20:15):
now you're just saying, now all black women don't resonate
with you.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
You can't do that.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
Yeah, No, especially being a public figure, the public figure
you are, you have so many people looking up so
many black women looking up to you, so many black
women that support you, so many black women that sing
your song word for.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
Word, that love you.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
So I just feel like, right like you said, Ashley,
you know, the pr training needs to be there because
now you're you're really starting to get you know, trolls,
and everyone's starting to come in. Even the people who
really supported you now they're looking at you different because
of your comment. Yes, it's such a slap in the face,
Like definitely them.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
She has to leave her personal like energy.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
And it's hard though, because you're you're very talented. You're
gonna get people to come at and you you gotta ignore,
you know, even us. You have to ignore what they
say because you know it's it's not you. Is she
considered pop or or and being sold well, I think
she started in like country or something like she is
(21:23):
she's like multi favor Yeah, so I mean, okay, I
feel like she gets left from everybody and maybe you know,
she's closest to the black community, maybe she hears more.
I don't know if the negative stuff from I don't know,
but whatever it is, I feel like, you know, you
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have to if you're a public person, you just have
to know that not everybody gonna like you first of all.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
And that's okay.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
Well, why do we take it as it's always us
like when it comes for you from when criticism comes
from you, from your own community, why does it hurt more? Well,
because it's a lineage and goes back to history of
being attacked by our own people, you know, the crab
barrel effect as well as we can be our own
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worst critics, you know, to each other. We don't want
to help each other, we don't want to build with
each other, we don't want to lift each other up.
So it just comes from a generational hatred of what
was embedded in us all the way, taking it all
the way back. So when we were not allowed to,
we were had to separate each other. You know, somebody
was coming after us of our own color just to
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be in line with massing them. So it goes all
the way back to that. So it's just a lot
of this lineage of generational hatred of just not everyone
just kind of competing for themselves. And unfortunately, women can
be harsh against other women. You know, we can beat
each other up so much, and you know, we should
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be glorifying our bodies and our skin colors and our
textures of our hair, all these things. We're just so
targeted in one way, but at the same time we're
targeting each other, right, But sometimes I feel like, you know,
we can take criticism. People take criticism as always it's
always a bad but sometimes it's not. Sometimes, you know,
(23:17):
you can take We have to learn to attack everything.
It's not meant to tear that defensive. We're defensive, y'all.
You know, it's just we've been pitted against each other
for so long and so we have these like hard shells,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
It's just very much hard penetrated.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
And then when you try to give advice or or
criticize something, it's like, oh, it's an attack, but it's
it's really not. It's like, Okay, I'm supporting you, I'm
watching you, i'm listening to you. I think you should
do this coming from and or you know, and multiple
people are saying it.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
It's not a tech, it's not an attack always.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
Yeah, you just have to learn how to be able
to accept criticism.
Speaker 1 (23:59):
Maybe she was having a bad day.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
That could be a possible toy, that could be very
much a possibility.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
Do you think we're harder on our own than we
are on others or why not? We hold ourselves to
a highest standard. Just begin again being separated and being
picked at over our history of being African Americans living
here unfortunately.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
So it's just it's just very much comes with the
territory of.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
Being blessed to be black, you know, and we have
to do that shift of supporting one another and uplifting
one another and being a sisterhood because that's where our
strict lies. We have the most homes that you know,
single family households are owned by black women. We're top entrepreneurs,
We're very smart and educated. We're one of the highest
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educated demographic groups. So it's just we have to lean
on really our faith understanding of knowing who we are
and tapping back into our power, not essence of knowing
who are what our strength is. And it's strength in numbers.
So once we all lock in and get it rally
up and get together, there's no stopping this movement.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
That's trueless. Yes, it's real.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
I mean I think Ashley said it that she I
think she answered this if they asked how share artists
respond when they feel misunderstood or dislike anyone with a
public figure. I feel like no response is the best
response when when it's something trying to you know, approve
a point to make people like you when you feel
(25:37):
feel dislike, like ignore it, like I feel like you
create more more commotion when.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
You're growth this I love the growth. No, it's the truth.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
I mean, I'm I can talk about it because I
was there, but like it creates more commotion, and you
allow those shows to overpower the people who really look
up to you, like when you don't entertain them, they
eventually die down.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
Yes, exactly. You know they're there, so I can speak
because you.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
Know it's growth over here, these growth over the baby
take it away.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
Yes, yes, you know we can talk about that.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
You know because obviously us being public figures, we're learning
and people have an opinion, especially when you do reality TV,
especially when they know they can touch you. And so
it's like it is hard because we internalize it. We
know who we are, we also know who we're raising.
We also know everything we've been through and we're like,
but we're trying to tell you we're not these people,
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you know, whatever the case may be.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
But you know, again, every it's freedom of speech.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
Everybody has an opinion and they're gonna talk about it.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
That's why we can have a platform to talk on
our own. So here we are want you just want
to say, ash.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
No, just the same thing y'all was saying. I feel like,
you know, she or anybody in the publics, I just
feel like you just have to know it's gonna come
at some point. But like I said, maybe she was
just having a moment and she couldn't take y'all shit
no more. Okay, Like you know what, you know, everybody
(27:28):
that I've been there, we all haven't been there where
we just needed a moment to get it out.
Speaker 1 (27:32):
You know, we've all had a moment where we had.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
A little Twitter beef or went back and forth with
somebody in the DNS or you know.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
In the comments section or whatever. Like we've all been there,
done that.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
So you know, even though I do think she should
have not said everything she said. We've all been there,
you know what I'm saying. We've all had a moment
of like, you know, we just feel like we need
to say what we need to say, right. Yeah, but yeah,
I don't think she should do that again.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
For sure. You let it flow through your music, girl,
let it place. I know that's right. I like that.
But we love that energy, honey loan. We almost that
was my jam. Yeah, it's still that.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
It was stuck in my damn head forever, like and
then the notes that she hit right, see if I
can saying I hit it, but I can't say we
ain't got push on.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
Love and music. Yes, yes, get it together a loan.
Speaker 2 (28:38):
We support your girl, We support mm hmm
Get in my way, never out of my name's been
like you one and the more one. So what is
going to be? What's that? Hey, y'all?
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Someday everyone, I miss y'all.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
Miss y'all too. I missed my humble baddy. We was
out for Memorial.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
First, we want to thank everyone who served. Memorial is
about the veterans who lost their lives serving, So shout
out to you know, the families that have supported and
the ones that gained their life and lost their life
to support us. So happy with your dance the ones
that lost their lives. How have y'all been? Did y'all
(00:45):
eat some good food for Memorial of the weekend?
Speaker 1 (00:47):
Oh my god, no, because you're supposed to be here
grilling for me.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
I can't grill, that's my daidy job. I had some
spelled out, some good, some good, soulful. We had some yams, greens,
macaroni and cheese. So you threw down, getting down nothing.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
Invite, it was going down. We're celebrating over here. I've been.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
I've been working in the restaurant all weekend. It's so
it's so hard. Alrighty, how is that going? So it's
been an adjustment because I'm standing up for hours on
hours during the day and so like.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
It's active if they do there like check you out
there Friday, Saturdays and Sundays.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
I know. Yeah, so I'm there Friday night. You said, yeah,
so everyone come through. I'm in the kitchen. I come on,
I speak to where they're gonna go. Lext you tell
the people where they're gonna go, Smith and Webster, North Beach,
So I will see y'all. I will be in the
bad come through. It's good food and I'm getting to
(02:03):
know everybody. So this is like a new experience for me,
like all the cooks that are there before. There's a
couple of other interns that are working, and just like
the executive chefs, and everyone's been welcoming. So I was
like nervous because you know, from television shows and all
of that, what we see, you know, very intense. But
i just jumped right in and just feel familiar and
(02:25):
I'm just very passionate about the first thing that you
cooked you were back there, it was a peach cobbler waffle.
So the first waffle, No, not right now, but like
we need some waffles.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
Yeah, they have a menu.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
They have about like about fifteen things on the menu.
So it was like intense and it was pretty cool
those and I survived and I'm here and then like
all my babies are home. Just Elijah's the last one
in school, so everyone is just wrapping up.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
Empty nesters soon.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
Yeah, it's quiet. They're with their father, the perks of
co parenting. So I'm technically already ready vacationing. So okay, nulation,
thank you, thank you?
Speaker 1 (03:18):
Huh? I said, what about you all? That was your weekend?
My weekend was good? What'd I do? Oh?
Speaker 2 (03:25):
I got my chicken coop finally yeen the delivery.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
My chickens got a nice new, beautiful home.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
Oh wow. And so now I'm trying to teach them
how to go in the henhouse at night.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
I'd be talking. I feel like you, this ain't the
life you imagine, did it like you?
Speaker 2 (03:43):
Ain't think you feel you just I love chickens.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
Don't feel for film. We feel bad.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
I been making him do all kinds of stuff, and
now I'm trying to get him to build me all
kind of stuff.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
Yeah, it's an adventure every day. Actually, y'all just let
me know when the egg is.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
Drop another about a month with the half a little
while before they start laying eggs.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
But I'm gonna let you out them, please, man, I
want to be the first.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
One that I want to test them out because I
ain't never had no real you know, organic natural. You
can keep the room temperature too, Yeah, no, they are.
They last like a long time too. All the eggs
you get in the grocery store are old. Yeah, eggs
for like thirty forty days, sixty days if you don't
(04:34):
wash them off.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
Are they gonna be different color eggs? Yes? Girl, I
kidnock like.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
I have five different breeds of chickens, so I have
all different Yay, you.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
Got to get them shots and stuff. Yeah, I did.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
And then I gave them like medicated feet while they
were young to keep them nice and healthy.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
So we're doing all the well.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
We ain't got nothing to worry about over there. Then
up to Miss Real, I was there Charlotte for the weekend.
I went to go visit my best friend and check
on you know, I have a brokerage up there as well.
And I didn't cook, but I the day before Memorial
(05:16):
Day Sunday, I went to kitchen, kitchen and cocktail. Oh
my goodness, what's that. It's a restaurant. The food was amazing.
If y'all ever in Chao, I know they have a
few areas. I think it's one in d C. Somewhere
in Texas, and the one in Charlotte. That's the only
one I really been to. When I tell you, it's
(05:38):
a nice so soulfuld like luxury restaurant.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
Everything is on point.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
Everything the colon greens, the macaroni cheese, the canams, the black.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
Eyed peas, the corn bread.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
Everything, Like I literally order everything when I get there.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
So I was being, you know, big back this weekend.
We should we have to treat it.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
You know, I got my little break because the kids
started school, so I want my low vacation tip.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
Good for you, ok, nice, nice? Well yeah, it was
a good weekend.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
We needed that that little breaks to jump start into summer.
So like that is like the it's shifting from finishing
up all these school events and to now prepping for
the summer where the kid's gonna go internships, camps, all
these things, vacations.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
Everything.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
Yeah, yeah, nice break. Let's get into it, you guys.
Let's today We're gonna talk about some everybody, the everybody
been going in on Donald Trump, but then they started
saying more people than he has had been parted, he pardoned.
So former President Trump has issued a full part in
(06:52):
to reality TV couple Todd and Julie Chris Christly. Chrisly's
no those best who are previously convicted of the fraud
and banks for more than thirty million and committing tax evasions.
The controversial decision has sparked outrage and reignited conversations about
(07:14):
privileged justice and celebrity favoritism in politics. Yeah, I mean,
it do seem like if you a little popular, you
know what I'm saying, you need a you know, he's
I feel like he feeds off of popularity. Like he's
the reason why he's in office, the reason why he's
(07:35):
so popular now, Like he won the popular vote. Like
I feel like it really is almost a popularity contest
for him. So while he's in office, he's still doing
the popular thing and getting you know, pardoning popular people
to keep the people happy, you know, keep the majority
on his side, because a lot of people, you know,
every now and then we start being like, damn, we
(07:56):
voted this man in.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
Look what he's doing.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
But then he'll go in party, and you know, these
popular people, a lot of people in pop culture that
people are very familiar with in their every day you know,
lives and world, and it kind of is like, oh, well,
that's cool. You know a lot of people aren't super political,
so once they see like a pop star or a
reality TV start getting pardoned, you know, I feel like
(08:20):
it keeps.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
Him relevant relevant.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
Yeah, I agree with one hundred people, one hundred percent,
would you, Ashley? He is about the culture of being
the most famous, the most popular, the most liked, making
America great in so many capacities.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
But he understands.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
One thing he does understand is the fact of the
popular vote, the fact that you have the different demographics
of whoever you following. Because I don't I agree with
you what it's that it's popular people, people weird that
are famous. But then there was also like I guess
you know, he's he's part of other people to the
point where it's like, Okay, if this person is stands
(09:01):
for something, I'm going to be the one that's going
to be the culture shifter. Just so you can, my
name is attached to it, so I'm going to get
the credit for it. And so he's very much like
consistent with the fact that he wants that limelight, and
he's shifting that energy to like, let me be the
one because I do eventually have the authority, which we
see that he does.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
It's showing his power, you know, like you know, literally.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
His signature is part of the people, and so his
favoritism in a lot of ways. But at the same time,
it's almost erasing the smear of the other bad things
that we think about him. Insact, somebody was saying that
people was paying him work for them to get part
of him. But here's here's a list of who he recently,
(09:47):
who he saw on today. John g Rowland, former Government
of Connecticut, Kent Trell, Galdon, NBA Young Boy, Michael Graham,
former New York rap Kevin and based in marxy Ba Shaw,
Chid and Julie Tanner Mansell and John Wore, Michael Harris,
(10:11):
and Larry Hoover. When you look at some of these
crimes that they have committed, it's like, yeah, well, and
then I guess it goes both ways, because it's like, Okay,
you're pardoning some of these people who committed crimes that
should be you know, paying the price for what they've done, right,
(10:32):
But it seems like, you know, he'll pardon some people,
but then like the people that don't necessarily would have
voted for him, they'll he's letting those people go too,
to keep you know, to keep things in balance almost
you know.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
What I mean, Like when he pardoned.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
Kodak or helped him get out, you know what I mean,
like just finding ways to like stay popular, but still
like keeping his aggen like how he pardoned the the Yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
But then you know he's teaming up with Kanye Like
it's like he does things like that show you aspiring
people he was. You know, he is pop culture himself.
He is mentioned on the barts like the Simpsons, you
know what I mean, Like he is been been mimicked
many times on Saturday Night Live.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
So he is pop culture.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
You know our question I think this is there, like
that he's doing this, like how do I feel about it?
I mean, this is this is letting it's putting a
spotlight on being a president of the free United States
of America. So at the end of the day, he's
showing his power of what he can do. And that's
why it's important to vote, because the powers is literally
(11:55):
in the pen in the signature, and he's showing that.
And I mean, look at Joe Biden. Right before he
left office, he pardoned his son. So it's the power
of the presidency. So whoever gets that seat, that's why
it's very important who you're voting for. And honestly, Donald Trump,
at President Trump rop he has everything he said, he's
(12:17):
been he's gonna do, he's been doing. Now that's one
thing that's something I can say. So here we are, you.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
Know, so I definitely don't think it's there.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
When you look at some of the crimes and then
like the Christlies, look how much money they frauded the
government and they all have they like it's basically raced now.
But you have other people serving time, you know, serving
time that did less, that didn't do as much, and
you know they're still sitting in prince It's like it
(12:50):
does show like it's favoritism or if you have a
big name, you know we're gonna make sure you're taken
care of. It's the system is just it's not right, suaw.
So remember this is the same man who took out
an ad for the the Central part five back in
(13:16):
the day. This is the same person, and I feel
like he's showing his same power. It's just, you know,
he's the president now, he's doing everything he's saying that, like,
for example, white South Africans are being you know, mauled
and wiped away, so he brought them over here and
(13:38):
the president was sitting next to him in the meeting.
You know, it's just it's it's a lot, it's all
over the place. It's politics. But let's you know again,
I keep saying this, the power of the presidency, it's
a it's a major thing.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
Yeah, yeah, I know. President Obama would have never been
able to get away with this. No, no, they could
have President Obama. L Larry, Oh, they would ahead President
(14:16):
Obama talking so much what I think, I'm big beach.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
So you think that people will go back and watch
the Chris Lies when you think they have a TV
show coming out, you think they're gonna they gotta come back.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
Might be producing it. We don't even know anymore, Like
it just might be part of it.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
Their daughter is very vocal, like she had her hat on,
she made I think she low key made the announcement,
like look, I think she even sat down with her
was some kind of way was connected to Donald Trump
to be able to make this happen. So of course
gotta be. They gotta be mag of people. I'm sure
they've been doing this for years. This is all about
the dollar. It's all about television. It's all about popularity.
(15:03):
It's all about you know, the different culture of reality TV.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
Mean, here we go just just shows what's going on?
You know who had me? Who pissed off at Donald Trump?
Right now?
Speaker 2 (15:13):
Because his name went on that list? What's the one
that was popular doing during during the pandemic? It was, uh,
he had the Tigers or.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
Tiger King.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
Yes he is Joe right, it's going on a rampage
right now because his name is not on that list.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
He like, how are you getting rid of letting all
these people going? I ain't do nothing? Goodness? I love
that show.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
That was great, Actually was it was a great docu series.
He was very entertaining. I wonder what happened to the
cat Lady. The cat you know the cat Lady is
outside of Tampa. Yeah, I thought she had to like
going to hire and basically because everybody thought she for
real killed her husband. I don't know from and see
(16:08):
real I ain't gonna come up missing. I love my
life too much at the zoo. From the documentary, it
was suspect she did it. The math wasn't mathew, she
did it. She let them them tigers eat her husband up.
That's crazy that that did happen in COVID. That was
(16:28):
pure entertainment. By the way, they had to send a
choke hold. I know I watched that and amongst other things,
but it definitely was something to talk about. I was
focused now, almost blocked, and it was yeah, all right,
let's get into it. Money Loan is catching backlash. Is
(16:51):
she misunderstood or missed the miss a line? Grammy winning
r and b artists, am I saying her name right?
Money or mooney?
Speaker 1 (17:00):
Money?
Speaker 2 (17:00):
Loan brastly open up about why she believes some black
women don't resonate with her personality. Her comments have triggered
social media debates about perception, likability, and often unspoken dynamics
between black female celebrities and their audience. This conversation opens
the door to deeper dialogue around I hate this authenticity
(17:25):
perversation and while being unapologetically you still gets criticized even
in twenty twenty five, So did y'all hear when money loan.
She was like, basically, you know, black women don't resonate
with her.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
Yeah, but what is she talking about?
Speaker 2 (17:44):
Because we are her audience and I agree, we're the
one singing her songs and doing the tiktoks and all
of that.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
What is she talking about? I agree?
Speaker 2 (17:54):
And it's like everybody is going to get criticized booboo KITTI,
Like you are a public figure and everybody knows, like
the haters are always the loudest anyway, Like we know
that you know, and you've been in the business for
how long now? Yes to where she's not some pr
training and she should take it with the grain of salt.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
I mean, you know, and be.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
Open to criticism. It doesn't mean you have to accept
what they say. People are gonna talk. You are a figure,
you can sing your ass off, you're amazing, You're very talented.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
But people are gonna speak how they feel. Doesn't mean
that they.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
You can't justify and just say all black women don't
resonate with you, right, that's not the big number. And
you guys said the best, like we are, we do
listen to her. It's definitely our demographic but she did
say like her what did she say, Like her biggest
fans are from Brazil and the Philippines, which to me,
(18:57):
you gotta stop. Like, at the end of the day,
Brazil has is it has the most black people. So
I don't know where she got her information from, but
you know, I think it was just a mistake and hopefully,
you know, we can move past this and were forgiving
as we do, but you know, let's let's make some good.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
I think she should.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
Probably take it up with her pr people, her branding people.
If she feels like she's not resignating in the way
that she wants to. If she's not, if her image
isn't aligning with whatever she you know, feels it is
true to herself, then maybe she needs to like, you know,
go back and read right, Like yeah, like she needs
(19:44):
to go back with her people and have a conversation
because maybe like maybe we aren't resonating with her the
way you know, she would like.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
But that's not you know, I don't feel like.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
She should come on you know, social media and be
talking my aunties and aunties and so Bymla's is whatever
she can't she can't crucify every black woman just because
she has a few women have said certain things and
you just only reading you know, black women comments, and
(20:15):
now you're just saying, now all black women don't resonate
with you.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
You can't do that.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
Yeah, No, especially being a public figure, the public figure
you are, you have so many people looking up so
many black women looking up to you, so many black
women that support you, so many black women that sing
your song word for.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
Word, that love you.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
So I just feel like, right like you said, Ashley,
you know, the pr training needs to be there because
now you're you're really starting to get you know, trolls,
and everyone's starting to come in. Even the people who
really supported you now they're looking at you different because
of your comment. Yes, it's such a slap in the face,
Like definitely them.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
She has to leave her personal like energy.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
And it's hard though, because you're you're very talented. You're
gonna get people to come at and you you gotta ignore,
you know, even us. You have to ignore what they
say because you know it's it's not you. Is she
considered pop or or and being sold well, I think
she started in like country or something like she is
(21:23):
she's like multi favor Yeah, so I mean, okay, I
feel like she gets left from everybody and maybe you know,
she's closest to the black community, maybe she hears more.
I don't know if the negative stuff from I don't know,
but whatever it is, I feel like, you know, you
(21:44):
have to if you're a public person, you just have
to know that not everybody gonna like you first of all.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
And that's okay.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
Well, why do we take it as it's always us
like when it comes for you from when criticism comes
from you, from your own community, why does it hurt more? Well,
because it's a lineage and goes back to history of
being attacked by our own people, you know, the crab
barrel effect as well as we can be our own
(22:12):
worst critics, you know, to each other. We don't want
to help each other, we don't want to build with
each other, we don't want to lift each other up.
So it just comes from a generational hatred of what
was embedded in us all the way, taking it all
the way back. So when we were not allowed to,
we were had to separate each other. You know, somebody
was coming after us of our own color just to
(22:33):
be in line with massing them. So it goes all
the way back to that. So it's just a lot
of this lineage of generational hatred of just not everyone
just kind of competing for themselves. And unfortunately, women can
be harsh against other women. You know, we can beat
each other up so much, and you know, we should
(22:55):
be glorifying our bodies and our skin colors and our
textures of our hair, all these things. We're just so
targeted in one way, but at the same time we're
targeting each other, right, But sometimes I feel like, you know,
we can take criticism. People take criticism as always it's
always a bad but sometimes it's not. Sometimes, you know,
(23:17):
you can take We have to learn to attack everything.
It's not meant to tear that defensive. We're defensive, y'all.
You know, it's just we've been pitted against each other
for so long and so we have these like hard shells,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
It's just very much hard penetrated.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
And then when you try to give advice or or
criticize something, it's like, oh, it's an attack, but it's
it's really not. It's like, Okay, I'm supporting you, I'm
watching you, i'm listening to you. I think you should
do this coming from and or you know, and multiple
people are saying it.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
It's not a tech, it's not an attack always.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
Yeah, you just have to learn how to be able
to accept criticism.
Speaker 1 (23:59):
Maybe she was having a bad day.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
That could be a possible toy, that could be very
much a possibility.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
Do you think we're harder on our own than we
are on others or why not? We hold ourselves to
a highest standard. Just begin again being separated and being
picked at over our history of being African Americans living
here unfortunately.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
So it's just it's just very much comes with the
territory of.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
Being blessed to be black, you know, and we have
to do that shift of supporting one another and uplifting
one another and being a sisterhood because that's where our
strict lies. We have the most homes that you know,
single family households are owned by black women. We're top entrepreneurs,
We're very smart and educated. We're one of the highest
(24:50):
educated demographic groups. So it's just we have to lean
on really our faith understanding of knowing who we are
and tapping back into our power, not essence of knowing
who are what our strength is. And it's strength in numbers.
So once we all lock in and get it rally
up and get together, there's no stopping this movement.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
That's trueless. Yes, it's real.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
I mean I think Ashley said it that she I
think she answered this if they asked how share artists
respond when they feel misunderstood or dislike anyone with a
public figure. I feel like no response is the best
response when when it's something trying to you know, approve
a point to make people like you when you feel
(25:37):
feel dislike, like ignore it, like I feel like you
create more more commotion when.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
You're growth this I love the growth. No, it's the truth.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
I mean, I'm I can talk about it because I
was there, but like it creates more commotion, and you
allow those shows to overpower the people who really look
up to you, like when you don't entertain them, they
eventually die down.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
Yes, exactly. You know they're there, so I can speak
because you.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
Know it's growth over here, these growth over the baby
take it away.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
Yes, yes, you know we can talk about that.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
You know because obviously us being public figures, we're learning
and people have an opinion, especially when you do reality TV,
especially when they know they can touch you. And so
it's like it is hard because we internalize it. We
know who we are, we also know who we're raising.
We also know everything we've been through and we're like,
but we're trying to tell you we're not these people,
(26:46):
you know, whatever the case may be.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
But you know, again, every it's freedom of speech.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
Everybody has an opinion and they're gonna talk about it.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
That's why we can have a platform to talk on
our own. So here we are want you just want
to say, ash.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
No, just the same thing y'all was saying. I feel like,
you know, she or anybody in the publics, I just
feel like you just have to know it's gonna come
at some point. But like I said, maybe she was
just having a moment and she couldn't take y'all shit
no more. Okay, Like you know what, you know, everybody
(27:28):
that I've been there, we all haven't been there where
we just needed a moment to get it out.
Speaker 1 (27:32):
You know, we've all had a moment where we had.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
A little Twitter beef or went back and forth with
somebody in the DNS or you know.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
In the comments section or whatever. Like we've all been there,
done that.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
So you know, even though I do think she should
have not said everything she said. We've all been there,
you know what I'm saying. We've all had a moment
of like, you know, we just feel like we need
to say what we need to say, right. Yeah, but yeah,
I don't think she should do that again.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
For sure. You let it flow through your music, girl,
let it place. I know that's right. I like that.
But we love that energy, honey loan. We almost that
was my jam. Yeah, it's still that.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
It was stuck in my damn head forever, like and
then the notes that she hit right, see if I
can saying I hit it, but I can't say we
ain't got push on.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
Love and music. Yes, yes, get it together a loan.
Speaker 2 (28:38):
We support your girl, We support mm hmm
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